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GreenWins
June 6th, 2011, 03:06 AM
Name:
Job Searcher - Neutral

Skill:
-Able to pick a job from the graveyard. (He will be able to turn the tide in games and make for some unexpected outcomes.)

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Name:
Judge - Town

Skill:
-Able to activate a second lynch during the day. (So if someone gets lynched... he is able to initiate a second lynch.)

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Suggestion on Doctor and Vigilante:

I suggest combining the doctor and vigilante.
This way doctors will have to make a decision to shoot or heal.
If they shoot they risk losing the investigator/sheriff.
This will give doctor a more meaningful role. It's boring to just heal the same person over and over.

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Will update with more details later...

wightsnow
June 6th, 2011, 03:45 AM
Name:
Job Searcher - Neutral

Skill:
-Able to pick a job from the graveyard. (He will be able to turn the tide in games and make for some unexpected outcomes.)

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Name:
Judge - Town

Skill:
-Able to activate a second lynch during the day. (So if someone gets lynched... he is able to initiate a second lynch.)

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Suggestion on Doctor and Vigilante:

I suggest combining the doctor and vigilante.
This way doctors will have to make a decision to shoot or heal.
If they shoot they risk losing the investigator/sheriff.
This will give doctor a more meaningful role. It's boring to just heal the same person over and over.

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Will update with more details later...


Don't combine vigil and doc. If you think doc is only healing the same person every night, then you must assume that mafia isn't going to try to kill them. With that knowledge, it's actually most beneficial to heal anyone but the known sheriff or investigator.

http://wiki.thecouncilofmages.com/index.php?title=Doctor

GreenWins
June 6th, 2011, 04:14 AM
Don't combine vigil and doc. If you think doc is only healing the same person every night, then you must assume that mafia isn't going to try to kill them. With that knowledge, it's actually most beneficial to heal anyone but the known sheriff or investigator.

http://wiki.thecouncilofmages.com/index.php?title=Doctor



Not trying to bash on your post, but if you combine vig/doc the strategy would be the same.

Lets say

Sheriff told everyone hes gonna be the target. tells doc to heal.
doc can heal someone else or shoot someone or heal the sheriff.

right now the choices would be
Doc Heal sheriff or heal someone random.
(adding a third choice would make the role more complicated and interesting)

It will make for a more complicated game. This would not change anything. The thing you pointed out will still be in the game.

Membrax
June 6th, 2011, 04:42 AM
Name:
Job Searcher - Neutral

Skill:
-Able to pick a job from the graveyard. (He will be able to turn the tide in games and make for some unexpected outcomes.)


Please give credit where credit is due. Lots of suggestions in this forum are just rehashing existing ideas, without indicating the source :P

Amnesiac
http://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Amnesiac

Can choose one person in the graveyard at night.
Becomes that person's role in the game

Anyway, that would be an awesome addition to the game. 8)
Strategically, sky is the limit, since you can basically choose your faction and surprise everyone with various neutral roles.

Zack
June 6th, 2011, 05:45 AM
lol... Shouldn't the Amnesiac (or "Job Searcher" if you prefer) be limited to town roles only? I find it rather odd that a person looking for a job would go "Oh hey, there's an opening on Serial Killers R US!" -- "Have you ever dreamed of stabbing people in the gut? Have you ever had the desire to slit someone's throat? This job's for you! Call now and you can become a professional Serial Killer today!"

And so, if Amnesiac is implemented... It should really be limited to Town, or maybe also neutral roles, but never mafia.

GreenWins
June 6th, 2011, 06:18 AM
Well we aren't exactly aiming for realism here. haha
I think that Amnesiac/Job searcher should be able to pick whatever roles he/she desires.
It's main purpose is to change the event of games with an unexpected twist.

So lets put this into a scenario.
lets say most of town is dead.
A mayor is in the graveyard.
All mafia is alive
Town isn't able to vote out mafia.
Amnesiac/Job searcher can join Town as mayor and change the game.

There is so many things that this one role can change.
There should be some kind of point bonus for joining the losing side and winning.

Styx
June 6th, 2011, 06:24 AM
Don't combine vigil and doc. If you think doc is only healing the same person every night, then you must assume that mafia isn't going to try to kill them. With that knowledge, it's actually most beneficial to heal anyone but the known sheriff or investigator.

http://wiki.thecouncilofmages.com/index.php?title=Doctor




Not trying to bash on your post, but if you combine vig/doc the strategy would be the same.

Lets say

Sheriff told everyone hes gonna be the target. tells doc to heal.
doc can heal someone else or shoot someone or heal the sheriff.

right now the choices would be
Doc Heal sheriff or heal someone random.
(adding a third choice would make the role more complicated and interesting)

It will make for a more complicated game. This would not change anything. The thing you pointed out will still be in the game.


Most appropriate time ever to link this video (regarding the article):




Edit to actually be on topic:
1. Implementing the Amensiac (or Job Searcher) is a fantastic idea, not a good Idea to limit it to town only as it makes the role rather, well dull and removes half the strategy.

2. By that logic every option should be given to everyone to add more strategy. We need a role that can role-block, investigate, heal or kill - BUT YOU HAVE TO BE STRATEGIC AND FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE TO USE. I'm sure it'll make for a great game.

The_Animus
June 6th, 2011, 08:56 AM
Just make the settings for Amnesiac/Job Searcher like they are for random any. That way people have the option to exclude the ability to take up a mafia role.

Krismighty
June 7th, 2011, 07:16 PM
Combining Doctor and Vigi sounds like the worst change ever. These are some of the basic roles of Mafia. It would destroy the base roots of Mafia gameplay. But Job Searcher (Amnesiac is better name) sounds good.