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Stealthbomber16
October 16th, 2018, 11:49 AM
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Game will start later tonight. Rolecards will be sent out soon.

The dusty floor of the building underlined the situation of the group. The plan was not to be here for more than a few hours. But it had been almost a week with no contact with the base. Rations were low, there was no more water. Morale was at an all time low.

But the real issue came the 8th day.

They awoke to a dense fog. The rain pattered against the roof above them. But where were they? None seemed to remember. Only that they were 9 strong. But there were now 11? All of them could not remember. The issue didn’t seem immediate. Perhaps they misremembered. But in reality they didn’t remember at all. In the sake of persistence, one suggested that they use their code names. A fine idea, right?

The next day, Watermeloann was found dead. A glowing knife firmly lodged within his spine. The urgency returned, if it had even faded in the first place, that is. They would have to resolve this mystery, and resolve it quickly, they couldn’t dare risk their lives. Something foul was afoot. A clear new threat. Perhaps, a
Secret Society

The game will start later tonight. I’m not sure. Currently looks like it will be at 8:00 PM CST. That places it at in 6 hours.

Stealthbomber16
October 16th, 2018, 05:20 PM
Rolecards have been sent.

You should have
Role name
Alignment
Role info
Wincon

In no particular order.

I know I mentioned Gender in the signup thread but decided to just not do that.

Game will start fairly soon. Stay tuned. Day 1 shall be 24 hours. I’m not gonna tell you how lynch works LUL.

Stealthbomber16
October 16th, 2018, 06:46 PM
Day One
AIVION
Magoroth
Gyrlander
NoctiZ
Kenny
blinkskater
Marshmallow Marshall
naz
Distorted
Cryptonic

-Graveyard
Watermeloann - ??? Presumed town.

No more secrets can be hid, they said. The sheer paranoia among the group resulted in them checking each of their living quarters. But there were 11. There couldn't be 11. There were only supposed to be 9 of them there. How could there be 11? There werent even 11 rooms. How do you leave this? Where is the front door? Is there a front door? Where are we? How do we leave? Can we leave?

.b̀a͝nih͢ ͠e͜ss͡iwe͠gnU̡ sn̷ì g̶nal͡rhaJ
,ne͏fro͜w͠eg̡ ͘e̡pp͏i̶ĺK úz
̀e͡pp̴įl̕K ̶nov ̶r͠essaW ̵e̷i̕W
,͢n͏redna ̧r̛uz e̴d̨n̕utS̕
͝ren͠i̴e no̷v sg̸níldn̸i̵lB̸
n҉ehcsne͡M ̀nedn̸ediel͠ ̢e͜iD
̸ne̡ll͘af ҉sę ͞,n͝edníw͝h҉c̕s̷ sE͡
̕;nh̛ur u͢z e͜tt́ätS͜ ̧reni̸ek ̧fu̡Á
̸n̨ebeg͘eg̶ ͟t͘si ͞snu ̢h͞c͟o̢D

Wait, what is happening? The rooms were empty. What once housed their comfortable beds and remaining rations was now completely barren. The doors would all remain open, they decided. And there would be no sleep until this was all resolved. Foul magic was at hand here, and none may rest until the end. If only they could know what unique horrors were in store here.

.̢la̵nr͠et͠e ̕sse̡nth҉gir͏B̷
̛liuq́na͝rt͘ ͜n̡i̴ e̵z̵aG͏
̷d̢e̶ssel̵b ̵eht̡ ͡f͡o s͞èy͝e͟ e͢ht̵ d̢nĄ
̸.҉tir͢iṕs r̀ieh͢t͟ f͝o ͠rewol͟f ͠ehT
̢,e͘y͠a ̡rof sm̶o̢olb͘ ̶t͞I
sd̕lo̷f̧n͏e҉ ̨t̢ąh҉t ̀d̡ub ͢nI
͡,deil͏l̀us͘nu ,̡ȩruP
.sl͘at͘ro͜m̕ḿi ҉eh̶t̸ ͢ehta͜e̵r̸b͡ ̀,g̀ni̢lkc̸ưS̕
g̡nire͞b́muls ̢eht ek̡il̕ ,etaF͠ móŕf͞ ͏e͝e̴r̕F̕

01:00:00:00
Day may end up to 30 minutes late for reasons unrelated to the setup.

Stealthbomber16
October 16th, 2018, 06:53 PM
In order to avoid angleshooting, each rolecard has differently worded win conditions. And all repeated rolecards have different wordings for each card.

Cryptonic
October 16th, 2018, 06:55 PM
What is up fellow kids

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:00 PM
MM the analyst has arrived!

According to my rolecard, a Triad exists, and a secret society. I am however unsure if there is indeed a secret society... Wondering if it's not like in illuminati lol.


Also, I can't see what the BIG LETTERS code is, but the normal letters code is simple, it's gniklat ekil taht.

Transcription: Free from Fate, like the slumbering Suokling (Wtf is a suokling lol), breathe the Immortals. Pure[...]


Continuing that in another post. Also Distorted Screw You!

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:01 PM
In order to avoid angleshooting, each rolecard has differently worded win conditions. And all repeated rolecards have different wordings for each card.

God bless the Blue Raspberry, prophet of :wm:.

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 07:03 PM
MM the analyst has arrived!

According to my rolecard, a Triad exists, and a secret society. I am however unsure if there is indeed a secret society... Wondering if it's not like in illuminati lol.


Also, I can't see what the BIG LETTERS code is, but the normal letters code is simple, it's gniklat ekil taht.

Transcription: Free from Fate, like the slumbering Suokling (Wtf is a suokling lol), breathe the Immortals. Pure[...]


Continuing that in another post. Also Distorted Screw You!

HELP IM BEING BULLIED

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 07:05 PM
oh shit Cryptonics in this game.


cryptonic

ill run an ISO on him soon, going to look at MMs first.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:06 PM
.̢la̵nr͠et͠e ̕sse̡nth҉gir͏B̷
̛liuq́na͝rt͘ ͜n̡i̴ e̵z̵aG͏
̷d̢e̶ssel̵b ̵eht̡ ͡f͡o s͞èy͝e͟ e͢ht̵ d̢nĄ
̸.҉tir͢iṕs r̀ieh͢t͟ f͝o ͠rewol͟f ͠ehT
̢,e͘y͠a ̡rof sm̶o̢olb͘ ̶t͞I
sd̕lo̷f̧n͏e҉ ̨t̢ąh҉t ̀d̡ub ͢nI
͡,deil͏l̀us͘nu ,̡ȩruP
.sl͘at͘ro͜m̕ḿi ҉eh̶t̸ ͢ehta͜e̵r̸b͡ ̀,g̀ni̢lkc̸ưS̕
g̡nire͞b́muls ̢eht ek̡il̕ ,etaF͠ móŕf͞ ͏e͝e̴r̕F̕

Transcription: Free from Fate, like the slumbering Suokling (Wtf is a suokling lol), breathe the Immortals. Pure, unsullied, In bud that enfolds It blooms for, aye The flower of their spirit And the eyes of the blessed Gaze in tranquil Brightness eternal.


What the fuck does that mean XD

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:07 PM
Transcription: Free from Fate, like the slumbering Suokling (Wtf is a suokling lol), breathe the Immortals. Pure, unsullied, In bud that enfolds It blooms for, aye The flower of their spirit And the eyes of the blessed Gaze in tranquil Brightness eternal.


What the fuck does that mean XD

Idk what that is but it is beautiful for sure lmao this is going to be great

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 07:10 PM
Ok, first im going to do an ISO on Cryptonic because MM is top poster right now, and really don't want to spend the time doing that.


What is up fellow kids

What So I believe this is to possibly fake he doenst know whats going on. doesnt seem he is genuinely confused about what is going on here

is Can you explain what the definition of is, is please?

up usually mafia is at the top of the lists. so this could be hinting they do not have a chat but they know each others identities. so it could be a signal.

fellow kids this is usually a way for someone to downtalk other players. refering to them as "kids" could make him appear to be an authority figure and help people "look up to him" and allow him for easier open wolfing. it also could potentially set him up for a powerwolf play.

after reviewing all of Cryptonics posts, I think my vote remains here for now.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:12 PM
The other coded thingy is looking like weird German. Meh. Anyone has an idea on how to solve it? I feel like this might be a setup similar to the :wm: setup :D

sadly I dont think the code is "you have made a very bad name for yourself"...

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:13 PM
Ok, first im going to do an ISO on Cryptonic because MM is top poster right now, and really don't want to spend the time doing that.



What So I believe this is to possibly fake he doenst know whats going on. doesnt seem he is genuinely confused about what is going on here

is Can you explain what the definition of is, is please?

up usually mafia is at the top of the lists. so this could be hinting they do not have a chat but they know each others identities. so it could be a signal.

fellow kids this is usually a way for someone to downtalk other players. refering to them as "kids" could make him appear to be an authority figure and help people "look up to him" and allow him for easier open wolfing. it also could potentially set him up for a powerwolf play.

after reviewing all of Cryptonics posts, I think my vote remains here for now.

Omg lol you are making me cough out of laughter.......

Master scumpainter since 2018 - Distorted, Mafia & associates.

Cryptonic
October 16th, 2018, 07:14 PM
MM the analyst has arrived!

According to my rolecard, a Triad exists, and a secret society. I am however unsure if there is indeed a secret society... Wondering if it's not like in illuminati lol.


Also, I can't see what the BIG LETTERS code is, but the normal letters code is simple, it's gniklat ekil taht.

Transcription: Free from Fate, like the slumbering Suokling (Wtf is a suokling lol), breathe the Immortals. Pure[...]


Continuing that in another post. Also Distorted Screw You!

why busing first post

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:16 PM
So, coming back to the setup theory...

Triad exists (Unless host is really a (lovely) asshole lol), and I think we can safely assume they know that they are triad, and they seem to be scum, along with secret society. Which means traditional scum hunting tactics should work.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:18 PM
Stealthbomber16 Oh uh, maybe I should have asked this before but...

Are there roles or mechanics that interact with words? By this I mean stuff like jar jar jinx. Because I'd appreciate not to get killed by some kind of rune, given the weird text about Immortals xD

Cryptonic
October 16th, 2018, 07:18 PM
Ok, first im going to do an ISO on Cryptonic because MM is top poster right now, and really don't want to spend the time doing that.



What So I believe this is to possibly fake he doenst know whats going on. doesnt seem he is genuinely confused about what is going on here

is Can you explain what the definition of is, is please?

up usually mafia is at the top of the lists. so this could be hinting they do not have a chat but they know each others identities. so it could be a signal.

fellow kids this is usually a way for someone to downtalk other players. refering to them as "kids" could make him appear to be an authority figure and help people "look up to him" and allow him for easier open wolfing. it also could potentially set him up for a powerwolf play.

after reviewing all of Cryptonics posts, I think my vote remains here for now.

oh uh wow ok im kind of hurt here
you ACCUSE me of not knowing what is going on, because i asked what is going on?!?! where do you get your facts from, i obviously know what's going on and only asked "what" to force a scum slip. it seems i got a bite 8)

"is" is actually an acronym for Islamic State, in which i was trying to recruit my "fellow" kids to the cause.

"kids" is because i am 57 years old in real life, and therefore everyone on here is a child to me. that's why you can't talk to sexy things with me because i'll go to jail once the fbi reads this post (and they will, because i mentioned Islamic State).


BUT the most interesting this about this... you are scum reading me for saying "up" because mafia is at the top of the list. BUT we don't even know there is mafia in this game... the only way you would know that mafia exists is if YOU are in the mafia... So... what do you have to say about this?????

Cryptonic
October 16th, 2018, 07:20 PM
brb watching MANIAC

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:24 PM
oh uh wow ok im kind of hurt here
you ACCUSE me of not knowing what is going on, because i asked what is going on?!?! where do you get your facts from, i obviously know what's going on and only asked "what" to force a scum slip. it seems i got a bite 8)

"is" is actually an acronym for Islamic State, in which i was trying to recruit my "fellow" kids to the cause.

"kids" is because i am 57 years old in real life, and therefore everyone on here is a child to me. that's why you can't talk to sexy things with me because i'll go to jail once the fbi reads this post (and they will, because i mentioned Islamic State).


BUT the most interesting this about this... you are scum reading me for saying "up" because mafia is at the top of the list. BUT we don't even know there is mafia in this game... the only way you would know that mafia exists is if YOU are in the mafia... So... what do you have to say about this?????

Ignorant islamic senior!!! Cryptonic

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:31 PM
Everyone's gone.... I guess I'll try to decypher that alone lol

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 07:35 PM
oh uh wow ok im kind of hurt here
you ACCUSE me of not knowing what is going on, because i asked what is going on?!?! where do you get your facts from, i obviously know what's going on and only asked "what" to force a scum slip. it seems i got a bite 8)

"is" is actually an acronym for Islamic State, in which i was trying to recruit my "fellow" kids to the cause.

"kids" is because i am 57 years old in real life, and therefore everyone on here is a child to me. that's why you can't talk to sexy things with me because i'll go to jail once the fbi reads this post (and they will, because i mentioned Islamic State).


BUT the most interesting this about this... you are scum reading me for saying "up" because mafia is at the top of the list. BUT we don't even know there is mafia in this game... the only way you would know that mafia exists is if YOU are in the mafia... So... what do you have to say about this?????


What So I believe this is to possibly fake he doenst know whats going on. doesnt seem he is genuinely confused about what is going on here
I said I BELIEVE you were FAKING that you didnt know what was going on, but in fact (according to you) you actually do... hmm now you are saying you DO know whats going on.... interesting though because that could potentially have town behind it. ill have to look at more of your interactions. leaving this as NAI for now.



islamic state is a secret society....though this does come off trollish, i think it may be that he is actually a neutral evil. This post would be to let evils know to not kill him.


"kids" is because i am 57 years old in real life, and therefore everyone on here is a child to me. that's why you can't talk to sexy things with me because i'll go to jail once the fbi reads this post (and they will, because i mentioned Islamic State).
in this post here. I believe all the details that are supposed to draw your eye is fluff. I think the main thing is he is once again referencing the Islamic State. It is there to show emphasis and make sure the scum do not miss it; showing its significance.


BUT the most interesting this about this... you are scum reading me for saying "up" because mafia is at the top of the list. BUT we don't even know there is mafia in this game... the only way you would know that mafia exists is if YOU are in the mafia... So... what do you have to say about this?????

Well MM has mentioned that triad potentially exist? why have you not assumed that he is triad than? according to your own logic the only way to know that a specific evil faction is in the game is to be part of it. Ignoring MM doing exactly what you are accusing me of :thinking: potential alignment between cryptonic and MM forming.

I also refer to any scum factions as mafia. I feel simplifying the factions helps keep the town organized. During random setups where scum is referred to as armadyus, or armadyus followers, we refered to them as cult. in setups where there is terrorists ect, i still refer to them as mafia.

You seem to be picking apart my post word for word to look for something to scum paint creating entire narratives based off of just 1 word in a sentence. I think im going to move you to the neutral evil category for that ;)

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:38 PM
Actually, Crypt has mentioned FBI, so cops, and jail... and islamic state is a secret society. LYNCH ASAP!!!

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:40 PM
Distorted, any chance you can decypher the paragraph I didn't solve yet?

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 07:43 PM
Distorted, any chance you can decypher the paragraph I didn't solve yet?

i havnt read any of the hosts opening posts yet lol ill go take a look.

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 07:44 PM
OMG

If I click the buttons on the side of my mouse i can go forward and backwards on pages! holy shit i didnt know that.

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 07:46 PM
game thread placeholder

Game will start later tonight. Rolecards will be sent out soon.

The dusty floor of the building underlined the situation of the group. The plan was not to be here for more than a few hours. But it had been almost a week with no contact with the base. Rations were low, there was no more water. Morale was at an all time low.

But the real issue came the 8th day.

They awoke to a dense fog. The rain pattered against the roof above them. But where were they? None seemed to remember. Only that they were 9 strong. But there were now 11? All of them could not remember. The issue didn’t seem immediate. Perhaps they misremembered. But in reality they didn’t remember at all. In the sake of persistence, one suggested that they use their code names. A fine idea, right?

The next day, Watermeloann was found dead. A glowing knife firmly lodged within his spine. The urgency returned, if it had even faded in the first place, that is. They would have to resolve this mystery, and resolve it quickly, they couldn’t dare risk their lives. Something foul was afoot. A clear new threat. Perhaps, a
Secret Society

The game will start later tonight. I’m not sure. Currently looks like it will be at 8:00 PM CST. That places it at in 6 hours.

Is that signifying that there is 2 scums? 9 people now 11, meaning 2 scums game into play.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:47 PM
OMG

If I click the buttons on the side of my mouse i can go forward and backwards on pages! holy shit i didnt know that.

WAIT YOU'RE RIGHT LOL

REVOLUTION IN THE WORLD OF MAFIA

A SQUIRREL UNCOVERED THE LONG LASTING SECRET OF PAGE TRAVELING!

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:48 PM
Is that signifying that there is 2 scums? 9 people now 11, meaning 2 scums game into play.

I don't think so. Two scums, a triad + a secret society?? In a 10 players setup???? Doesn't make much sense lol. It wouldn't be balanced nor logical, because a society of one person... xD

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 07:50 PM
I wonder if this setup will give us hints as we go. meaning if we can have less deaths early it may be better. still a thought, this wont really come into play or have answers until some flips/days pass anyways

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 07:50 PM
I don't think so. Two scums, a triad + a secret society?? In a 10 players setup???? Doesn't make much sense lol. It wouldn't be balanced nor logical, because a society of one person... xD

is there a setup link?

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:53 PM
I wonder if this setup will give us hints as we go. meaning if we can have less deaths early it may be better. still a thought, this wont really come into play or have answers until some flips/days pass anyways

Who said we were going to have flips.... And who said we were going to have LEGIT flips....... My first and only experience of 100% hidden setup was the "????" game, and the almighty scum lord was called Reality Bender, who could basically make stuff super weird and different. He made us think the setup was a quest for the holy grail lmao we had a Merlin the Wizard flip, while that role was very very far from existing.

Long short story: care about flips.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:54 PM
is there a setup link?

Would host lie in my rolecard?


And no it's not a scum slip, don't even think about it.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 07:56 PM
Oh yeah..... There's no majority. Or there is but we don't know. At least, we don't have a "X votes to lynch" thing. But for this game to be a game of Mafia, we need lynches, so I assume there's a way to lynch.

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 07:56 PM
I don't think so. Two scums, a triad + a secret society?? In a 10 players setup???? Doesn't make much sense lol. It wouldn't be balanced nor logical, because a society of one person... xD

... the 2 scums would be triad. maybe secret society is a cult? or a group of people within the game (like illuminati) with a different win objective. A 0 setup game is going to be something crazy.

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 07:58 PM
Who said we were going to have flips.... And who said we were going to have LEGIT flips....... My first and only experience of 100% hidden setup was the "????" game, and the almighty scum lord was called Reality Bender, who could basically make stuff super weird and different. He made us think the setup was a quest for the holy grail lmao we had a Merlin the Wizard flip, while that role was very very far from existing.

Long short story: care about flips.

oh shit.....so your implying that I need to think further outside the box here lol.


i'm going to treat it as a simple game for as long as I can before i have to acknowledge something else is going on.

so as of right now, I am viewing this game as 8 towns 2 triads and a potential cult/illuminati kinda thing within.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 08:00 PM
... the 2 scums would be triad. maybe secret society is a cult? or a group of people within the game (like illuminati) with a different win objective. A 0 setup game is going to be something crazy.

...idk. Given the fact that absolutely NOTHING clear about the setup has been given by host, I think we should wait before trying to guess the number of scums. We should rather work with the info we have atm... and here the cypher comes.

I checked, there's no "that" in the text unless it doesn't work with letter replacement or anagram.

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 08:03 PM
The first paragraph (first 2 words banned succession) but from 2 differnet languages.

However with the capital letters in each word it looks like a word scramble thing as well as different language? because many dont pop up on google translate. I would assume the lines around them are there for 1 of 4 reasons:

1) to prevent copy pasting

2) they have their own significance that can be reaaranged as well

3) a pattern pointing something out

4) To make it look messier.

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 08:04 PM
...idk. Given the fact that absolutely NOTHING clear about the setup has been given by host, I think we should wait before trying to guess the number of scums. We should rather work with the info we have atm... and here the cypher comes.

I checked, there's no "that" in the text unless it doesn't work with letter replacement or anagram.

9 and 11 were mentioned multiple times

9/11 ? lol omg this games going to prey on all sorts of paranoia.

But i think it was mentioned over and over to give us the number of 1 of the scum factions (triad)

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 08:05 PM
wait, the period is at the end. i think its all backwards. so if we type it in reverse order then maybe thats what we need.

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 08:08 PM
Doch uns ist gegebeh Auf keiner Statte uz ruhn; Es schwinden es fallen Die leidenden Menschen Blindlings von einer Stunde zur andern Wie Wasser von Klippe zu klippe geworfen Jahrlang ins Ungewisse hinab.

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 08:09 PM
Doch uns ist gegebeh Auf keiner Statte uz ruhn; Es schwinden es fallen Die leidenden Menschen Blindlings von einer Stunde zur andern Wie Wasser von Klippe zu klippe geworfen Jahrlang ins Ungewisse hinab.

But we are entitled to no rest on any place; The falling people fall blindly from one hour to another Like water from cliff to cliff thrown down into uncertainty for years.


google translated from german (backwards)

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 08:10 PM
But we are entitled to no rest on any place; The falling people fall blindly from one hour to another Like water from cliff to cliff thrown down into uncertainty for years.


google translated from german (backwards)

just sent it to a chick i know in Germany. see if maybe google translate missed something lol

Stealthbomber16
October 16th, 2018, 08:11 PM
Stealthbomber16 Oh uh, maybe I should have asked this before but...

Are there roles or mechanics that interact with words? By this I mean stuff like jar jar jinx. Because I'd appreciate not to get killed by some kind of rune, given the weird text about Immortals xD

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/398/111/d5a

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 08:16 PM
Message 1 (bigger message)

But we are entitled to no rest on any place; The falling people fall blindly from one hour to another Like water from cliff to cliff thrown down into uncertainty for years.


Message 2 (smaller message)

Free from Fate, like the slumbering Suokling (Wtf is a suokling lol), breathe the Immortals. Pure, unsullied, In bud that enfolds It blooms for, aye The flower of their spirit And the eyes of the blessed Gaze in tranquil Brightness eternal.



however if you copy and paste parts of the messages it changes... lol so gonna have to verify if that first 1 is correct at all.

Ganelon
October 16th, 2018, 10:44 PM
Hullo...

Distorted
He is Iluminati, he spoken in my mason chat. Guilty.

NoctiZ
October 16th, 2018, 11:14 PM
I claim SerialArsonFather

also Cryptonic can't believe SB16 actually granted your request. hello fellow scum mate

Off to work now, cya later peeps

Distorted
October 16th, 2018, 11:25 PM
I claim SerialArsonFather

also Cryptonic can't believe SB16 actually granted your request. hello fellow scum mate

Off to work now, cya later peeps

O.O

Ganelon
October 16th, 2018, 11:25 PM
I claim SerialArsonFather

also @Cryptonic (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=5896) can't believe SB16 actually granted your request. hello fellow scum mate

Off to work now, cya later peeps

I CC.

Ganelon
October 16th, 2018, 11:37 PM
MM the analyst has arrived!

According to my rolecard, a Triad exists, and a secret society. I am however unsure if there is indeed a secret society... Wondering if it's not like in illuminati lol.


Also, I can't see what the BIG LETTERS code is, but the normal letters code is simple, it's gniklat ekil taht.

Transcription: Free from Fate, like the slumbering Suokling (Wtf is a suokling lol), breathe the Immortals. Pure[...]


Continuing that in another post. Also Distorted Screw You!
A TRIAD? Also what the hell is a "secret society"? That sounds like Masons

Ganelon
October 16th, 2018, 11:46 PM
warning: this setup is bullshit


So, we have a triad, a "secret society", and a bullshit setup:

a)It's broken due to the roles

b)It's broken bcs some roles have a very easy time confirming themselves (that secret society??)

c)It's broken bcs there's too many members of one alignment, or two scum factions each of at least two members (??)
________

Given that we have no information about a), let's assume that we are in the b) or c) world. This means that b) we should expect roles that can mirror Masons SOMEHOW or something, with potentially a very strong Mason team, -OR- c) there's a Triad and a Mafia/Cult with some terrorists. It's also possible that we have an Illuminati-esque faction, but even worse, in that perhaps there's a scum. team inside the scum team itself (kinda like my "El-Solo Lobo" role, or like my Demon roles).

a) is very likely, but there's very little information in the game at this point... MM claims there's a triad, he's probably a role oriented to fight either Triad or Masons - or maybe he knows about triad and masons because we're in the c) world and somehow people can swap alignments/join night chats out of the blue...?

Ganelon
October 16th, 2018, 11:51 PM
MM, can you post the part in your role card where it mentions the secret society and the triad? This is very interesting and odd.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 11:53 PM
oh shit.....so your implying that I need to think further outside the box here lol.


i'm going to treat it as a simple game for as long as I can before i have to acknowledge something else is going on.

so as of right now, I am viewing this game as 8 towns 2 triads and a potential cult/illuminati kinda thing within.

I don't want to commit the same error than in Illuminati where I hunted for ghosts, but at the same time I don't want to do like I did in the ???? game where I actually thought the Reality Bender (On day 1 when nothing was revealed yet) was King Arthur, the town leader. That being said, I don't think that hidden stuff is that big, that game was a M-FM with 2 hosts and the setup had been discussed by the entire FM staff, while this is just a S-FM about secret society, it could be very small too.

And I don't want to fall in host meta either lol

Ganelon
October 16th, 2018, 11:55 PM
Maybe Secret Society means even THEY don't know who they are lmao, like my "Sinner" and Unsealing mechanics. I for one did not receive any indication as to whether I could be part of, or become the member of a "Secret Society", whatever that is

Ganelon
October 16th, 2018, 11:59 PM
MM, can you post the part in your role card where it mentions the secret society and the triad? This is very interesting and odd. Marshmallow Marshall

Marshmallow Marshall
October 16th, 2018, 11:59 PM
MM, can you post the part in your role card where it mentions the secret society and the triad? This is very interesting and odd.

It says, and here I'm talking of memory so it's paraphrasing, that I must eliminate the "evildoers", and it includes BOTH the Triad and the Secret society. Both are evil factions. I do not know if they can win together or not.

I obviously cannot post the PART of the rolecard because that's cheating lol.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 12:01 AM
It says, and here I'm talking of memory so it's paraphrasing, that I must eliminate the "evildoers", and it includes BOTH the Triad and the Secret society. Both are evil factions. I do not know if they can win together or not.

I obviously cannot post the PART of the rolecard because that's cheating lol.

Ah so the secret society aren't Masons. Good. We can probably discount b) then. We're in setup c). lol

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:02 AM
Maybe Secret Society means even THEY don't know who they are lmao, like my "Sinner" and Unsealing mechanics. I for one did not receive any indication as to whether I could be part of, or become the member of a "Secret Society", whatever that is

Nope the Secret Society is a scum faction that town must eliminate. I wasn't told I was Town btw. Just that I had to kill the evildoers, so I assume I am town. The secret society is an evil faction, it is a 100%.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:05 AM
Ah so the secret society aren't Masons. Good. We can probably discount b) then. We're in setup c). lol

Yeah the B world is still possible, but it would be strictly Town roles. Nothing excludes the A world, and hidden setups like OP roles lol. I believe that the game will explain itself by... itself. The C world is possible too. In fact everything is possible lol.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:21 AM
Nope the Secret Society is a scum faction that town must eliminate. I wasn't told I was Town btw. Just that I had to kill the evildoers, so I assume I am town. The secret society is an evil faction, it is a 100%.

lol

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 12:23 AM
I hard claim CITIZEN

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:24 AM
I hard claim CITIZEN

:thinking:


so much about this feels off now lol since your meta has developed a lot further =P

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 12:27 AM
I hard claim CITIZEN
Please be advised that I will CC any and all "Town Gov" type roles, even if confirmed by the host

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:28 AM
I hard claim CITIZEN

Please tell me that didn't happen... NOT IN A HIDDEN SETUP... aaaaAAAaAaAAAAaaaAAAAAAAaAAAAAAAAaaaaAA

ITS ANTITOWN TO CLAIM THIS EARLY IN A SETUP OF WHICH WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE SCUMS KNOW HOW IT WORKS.

The worst part is that I actually townread that claim. Which means you're scum but anyway can we just not elaborate on this matter xD

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:29 AM
:thinking:


so much about this feels off now lol since your meta has developed a lot further =P

And please no deep meta science.... also that vote on crypt is useless so Magoroth

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:29 AM
lol

What's funny?

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:30 AM
And please no deep meta science.... also that vote on crypt is useless so Magoroth

useless? no he is feeling the pressure. im pretty sure this entire time he has been sweating and trying to figure out how to respond to it. He knows that he is about to be lynched!

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 12:31 AM
And please no deep meta science.... also that vote on crypt is useless so Magoroth
Wot deep meta are you talking about mate, I did not go into host meta

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:31 AM
But we are entitled to no rest on any place; The falling people fall blindly from one hour to another Like water from cliff to cliff thrown down into uncertainty for years.


google translated from german (backwards)

Omg so it was ACTUALLY german backwards. I am proud of my guess now XD

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:32 AM
Wot deep meta are you talking about mate, I did not go into host meta

I'm talking to Distorted there, and putting a vote on you for REASONS.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:33 AM
Message 1 (bigger message)



Message 2 (smaller message)



however if you copy and paste parts of the messages it changes... lol so gonna have to verify if that first 1 is correct at all.

Yet that thing makes sense.... lol this is so messy

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:34 AM
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/398/111/d5a

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EE

Not going to do like in the 1krc game and be afraid of a possible jar jar lol. aamirus I DO NOT FEAR YOU

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:35 AM
I claim SerialArsonFather

also Cryptonic can't believe SB16 actually granted your request. hello fellow scum mate

Off to work now, cya later peeps

Heresy... Also "Location: Germany" TRANSLATE THE POST, SLAVE! :P

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:35 AM
Heresy... Also "Location: Germany" TRANSLATE THE POST, SLAVE! :P

explain.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:37 AM
explain.

The big letters text.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:37 AM
The big letters text.

ayy. but the slave comment. is that a role association?

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 12:37 AM
Wot deep meta are you talking about mate, I did not go into host meta
What Distorted said is not very related to meta as I see it IMO.
blink knows it's kind of anti-town to fake claim in a setup with no confirmed anything

thus Distorted's saying that it's scummy to fake-claim in such a setup (or at least that's what I THINK he's saying...?)

and he's right

thus I will assume blink is actually Citizen

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:40 AM
ayy. but the slave comment. is that a role association?

Distorted... did you see a doctor recently?


ISSA JOKE -_-

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:42 AM
What Distorted said is not very related to meta as I see it IMO.
blink knows it's kind of anti-town to fake claim in a setup with no confirmed anything

thus Distorted's saying that it's scummy to fake-claim in such a setup (or at least that's what I THINK he's saying...?)

and he's right

thus I will assume blink is actually Citizen

We come to the same conclusion lol.

But uh, Distorted literally said that blink had changed his meta so it was feeling off. He literally based his post on blink's meta lol.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:42 AM
Distorted... did you see a doctor recently?


ISSA JOKE -_-

I have my eye on you....

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:43 AM
I have my eye on you....

:facepalm: And I thought I was going to be the paranoid guy.... I HARD CLAIM ILLUMINATI

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 12:45 AM
:facepalm: And I thought I was going to be the paranoid guy.... I HARD CLAIM ILLUMINATI
inb4 jester

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 12:50 AM
Also Marshmallow Marshall, last game you mentioned that I once told you that I can "fake" town slips as (town??) Mafia. Can you remind me when I said that? Bc I really don't remember.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:50 AM
So, summary of what we know:

There are three alignments as far as our knowledge goes: Town, Triad and Secret Society.

That's it.


Summary of what we can use:

The two cyphers, on which we need a consensus and a meaning associated.
The fact that the setup is bullshit, apparently.
We have at least two scums, according to the 9/11 thingy. Nothing says that it's not just one scum team, or that the two scum teams aren't mutually exclusive.
"Watermeloann" flipped "probable town", and I think that is an info that will be useful later on, even if I don't know what to do with it atm.
Nothing actually weird has happened yet, so we can hope for the game not to blow up later since it didn't yet...

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:51 AM
Also Marshmallow Marshall, last game you mentioned that I once told you that I can "fake" town slips as (town??) Mafia. Can you remind me when I said that? Bc I really don't remember.

I think you said that once in discord. Unless that's my fantasy dreams xD

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:53 AM
Gyrlander!


What is your take on the current informations we have?

Also, if you think you can bring something new with your rolecard without claiming, please do, because the most info we have the better it is.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:57 AM
Gyrlander!


What is your take on the current informations we have?

Also, if you think you can bring something new with your rolecard without claiming, please do, because the most info we have the better it is.

are you Armadillo follower?

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 01:00 AM
are you Armadillo follower?

Nope, Youtube is, because I opened it, and a bug happened to be right after. :D

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 01:01 AM
are you Armadillo follower?
???? what's an armadillo follower, is that a Haloden role?

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 01:01 AM
???? what's an armadillo follower, is that a Haloden role?

Yes it is lol

Gyrlander
October 17th, 2018, 01:04 AM
I just woke up because some asshole rang :))) Back to sleep.

I just hope there is a new role mechanic lol

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 01:06 AM
Also people, day is 24 hours, and we are not even 100 posts in. I must sleep, but I am disappointed in the lack of activity... There's not much to discuss if nobody comes in and adds their touch to the game, yet if we keep being silent we'll never win.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 01:07 AM
I just woke up because some asshole rang :))) Back to sleep.

I just hope there is a new role mechanic lol

Come on...... Not even a single thought??? Are you going to AFK all game? :(

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 01:13 AM
a) is very likely, but there's very little information in the game at this point... MM claims there's a triad, he's probably a role oriented to fight either Triad or Masons - or maybe he knows about triad and masons because we're in the c) world and somehow people can swap alignments/join night chats out of the blue...?


WAIT A MINUTE, YOU. If I am town and that you didn't recieve the same wincon than me.... :noose:

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 01:13 AM
I just woke up because some asshole rang :))) Back to sleep.

I just hope there is a new role mechanic lol

-shout AAAAA it's burning HELP

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 01:15 AM
WAIT A MINUTE, YOU. If I am town and that you didn't recieve the same wincon than me.... :noose:

I was told that I am a Town [INSERTROLE] and that I need to Lynch all the bad juju

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 01:15 AM
WAIT A MINUTE, YOU. If I am town and that you didn't recieve the same wincon than me.... :noose:

This right here might be a scum slip. It is clearly stated that everyone gets a rolecard with their role, alignment, role info, and wincon. If you did not know that you had to lynch Triad because you didn't even know it existed, which is what your post implies, you are not town. Magoroth

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 01:16 AM
And before you even think about it: this push, if I was a scum, would be a pure suicide, and pretty useless 100 posts in. Don't try it.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 01:20 AM
It's past 10 AM now. I'm going to bed. But I expect answers, and my vote stays where it is. Good night folks, and don't forget to be active, this is a hidden setup with 24h days...

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 01:25 AM
This right here might be a scum slip. It is clearly stated that everyone gets a rolecard with their role, alignment, role info, and wincon. If you did not know that you had to lynch Triad because you didn't even know it existed, which is what your post implies, you are not town. @Magoroth (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=29730)
Lol. You're the only one in the game thus far who has revealed that there is a Triad. SB16 even said that no two role cards are the same.,Nobody else mentioned the word "triad", or even "secret society", apart from maybe Cryptonic who kind of. hinted at there being an SS.

My win condition is to Lynch all the bad guys. YOU provided your win condition because you SUSPECTED not everyone was told about Triad/SS.

And, MM, don't start this shit. You don't even know if you're town. You just assumed you are town. I was TOLD​ I was town. It's not the same thing.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 01:30 AM
This right here might be a scum slip. It is clearly stated that everyone gets a rolecard with their role, alignment, role info, and wincon. If you did not know that you had to lynch Triad because you didn't even know it existed, which is what your post implies, you are not town. Magoroth

nah my rolecard just says i need to eliminate all other factions, nothing about what they are.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 01:32 AM
Lol. You're the only one in the game thus far who has revealed that there is a Triad. SB16 even said that no two role cards are the same.,Nobody else mentioned the word "triad", or even "secret society", apart from maybe Cryptonic who kind of. hinted at there being an SS.

My win condition is to Lynch all the bad guys. YOU provided your win condition because you SUSPECTED not everyone was told about Triad/SS.

And, MM, don't start this shit. You don't even know if you're town. You just assumed you are town. I was TOLD​ I was town. It's not the same thing.

ya, i wasnt even told i was town either lol but im guessing the color of it signifies. however, if he actually put the effort into making everyones rolecards customized and different, i highly doubt we will find evidence in them. him putting "eliminate triad and secret society" could be a complete BS on there not even being triad.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 01:33 AM
Because if triad was POSSIBLE (which anything in this setup is) and there isnt any, that just means triad is already eliminated lol

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 01:33 AM
ya, i wasnt even told i was town either lol but im guessing the color of it signifies. however, if he actually put the effort into making everyones rolecards customized and different, i highly doubt we will find evidence in them. him putting "eliminate triad and secret society" could be a complete BS on there not even being triad.
Yeah it could be IMO.

NoctiZ
October 17th, 2018, 01:55 AM
The way MM tried to pin dirt onto Magoroth was so scummy it hurts. Honestly feels like a repeat of last game where there's something that's only very arguably scummy and MM jumps onto it for some town points. And this time it's about role cards where the host made it very clear that every card is supposed to be customized.. come on, really?

Marshmallow Marshall

I'm on my phone during work break so I can't say all the things I want but there was one post where Distorted was either serious and therefore scummy or he was still in the Day 1 troll mood and then it's only very slightly scummy. If anyone can guess which post it was, I have a cookie I can reward you with.
Anyway, it's not supposed to be a very harsh accusation but I'm gonna keep my eye on you, Distorted.. -_-

Gyrlander
October 17th, 2018, 03:10 AM
And before you even think about it: this push, if I was a scum, would be a pure suicide, and pretty useless 100 posts in. Don't try it.

You're scum.

Gyrlander
October 17th, 2018, 03:18 AM
Who said we were going to have flips.... And who said we were going to have LEGIT flips....... My first and only experience of 100% hidden setup was the "????" game, and the almighty scum lord was called Reality Bender, who could basically make stuff super weird and different. He made us think the setup was a quest for the holy grail lmao we had a Merlin the Wizard flip, while that role was very very far from existing.

Long short story: care about flips.

Please don't talk about that fucking setup which was designed so that the fucking Reality Bender had all the fun :))

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 03:25 AM
Please don't talk about that fucking setup which was designed so that the fucking Reality Bender had all the fun :))
Oh my God, I just read that setup, lmao what the fuck was that

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 03:49 AM
Listen up townys i've already figured out this game

Make sure that you place the most votes on the person you DONT want lynched. (Me)

Second highest vote total will be lynched.

There is only 1 "evil doing" faction with 2 members.

There 1 "neutral" role.

Stay tuned day 2 for more answers.

Gyrlander
October 17th, 2018, 03:53 AM
No. You explain.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 03:54 AM
Marshmallow Marshall. are you reality bender?

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 03:59 AM
blinkskater Gyrlander Distorted Stealthbomber16 Marshmallow Marshall NoctiZ Cryptonic
has anyone actually noticed that there are no Lynch votes apparently? idk if this intended or host error

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 04:12 AM
Alright so if this isn't a host error, then what the fuck are we voting for?

naz
October 17th, 2018, 05:12 AM
yep i am pretty sure i unsigned for this but here i am with a role card..

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 05:48 AM
Listen up townys i've already figured out this game

Make sure that you place the most votes on the person you DONT want lynched. (Me)

Second highest vote total will be lynched.

There is only 1 "evil doing" faction with 2 members.

There 1 "neutral" role.

Stay tuned day 2 for more answers.

LOL I was thinking the same thing, more or less, ya dog.

Except for this part:

"Second highest vote total will be lynched"

I was more thinking like this:

Since we have no idea what exactly we are voting for today - we have no idea what effect the election might have on the winner, or rather on the game state as a whole - it'd be best to perform an experiment and vote someone who is townish but not 100% town, since we could literally be giving them a gun or something for the night, or maybe turning them into fucking Reality Bender (q.q).

AIVION
October 17th, 2018, 06:01 AM
Oh, this game started.

We also only have 24 hours til this day ends... What the fuck?

AIVION
October 17th, 2018, 06:02 AM
LOL I was thinking the same thing, more or less, ya dog.

Except for this part:

"Second highest vote total will be lynched"

I was more thinking like this:

Since we have no idea what exactly we are voting for today - we have no idea what effect the election might have on the winner, or rather on the game state as a whole - it'd be best to perform an experiment and vote someone who is townish but not 100% town, since we could literally be giving them a gun or something for the night, or maybe turning them into fucking Reality Bender (q.q).

I'll volunteer if you need someone lynched, 24 hours kills me.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 06:05 AM
I'll volunteer if you need someone lynched, 24 hours kills me.
Are you Reality Bender?

AIVION
October 17th, 2018, 06:05 AM
Please don't talk about that fucking setup which was designed so that the fucking Reality Bender had all the fun :))

Hey, remember that one setup you and I played a LONG time ago that had like, evolving role cards? I think you were a cult leader and I was a Wildcard that could either be a Mason or a mafia member (I think, or cult member I'd have to check).

I wonder if this game will be like that... I don't know if it was called Reality Bender but it was something of that nature.

Secret Societies gives me a bad vibe, like there's a bunch of different factions and it's just gonna be a fucking crazy game.

AIVION
October 17th, 2018, 06:06 AM
Are you Reality Bender?

The fuck is a Reality Bender?

My role both sucks and is boring if that's any much of a hint.

AIVION
October 17th, 2018, 06:07 AM
Hey, remember that one setup you and I played a LONG time ago that had like, evolving role cards? I think you were a cult leader and I was a Wildcard that could either be a Mason or a mafia member (I think, or cult member I'd have to check).

I wonder if this game will be like that... I don't know if it was called Reality Bender but it was something of that nature.

Secret Societies gives me a bad vibe, like there's a bunch of different factions and it's just gonna be a fucking crazy game.

REMEMBER WHEN A TRIP TO THE GROCERY STORE IS WHAT ULTIMATELY GOT YOU LYNCHED!?!?

GOOD TIMES BOYO!

HAHAHAHA :D

AIVION
October 17th, 2018, 06:08 AM
Hey, remember that one setup you and I played a LONG time ago that had like, evolving role cards? I think you were a cult leader and I was a Wildcard that could either be a Mason or a mafia member (I think, or cult member I'd have to check).

I wonder if this game will be like that... I don't know if it was called Reality Bender but it was something of that nature.

Secret Societies gives me a bad vibe, like there's a bunch of different factions and it's just gonna be a fucking crazy game.

There could be*

Not really sure if there is or not, but hey.

SB16 DID SAY this setup is bullshit. That's pretty bullshit to me.

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 06:09 AM
Whats up bros and brahs.

I need everyone to place their votes on me Asap.

Then I will place my vote on one of the scums.

Whoever doesn't vote me i'll peg as scum.

I can carry this game for the town, because i have more mafia experience then all of you combined.

I may have more information than all you normies about the setup.

"Inspiration can come from the deepest darkest of places, even when there is no light to brighten ones MIND

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 06:11 AM
The fuck is a Reality Bender?

My role both sucks and is boring if that's any much of a hint.
Hold on.

Link to Game which had the Reality Bender role, takes you directly to the role card (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/40778-S-FM-Gamethread?p=695059&viewfull=1#post695059)



Reality Bender
You have near unlimited control of your environment. These insects have no idea what they truly are, you have an infinite advantage.
Each night you may create a new mechanic, it may be from the list I provided, or you can make up your own! I will have to approve it however.
You may choose to remove any of these mechanics during the night as well.
Players may or may not be informed of the nature of the mechanics created, depending on what it is.
Upon being lynched for the first time, the lynch fails. And instead lynches the last person who voted you.
You cannot die at night by any means. (Hidden Information) You may still die from being launched into the sun.
You are immune to disruption, and roleblock.
You receive additional information at game start.

AIVION
October 17th, 2018, 06:11 AM
Whats up bros and brahs.

I need everyone to place their votes on me Asap.

Then I will place my vote on one of the scums.

Whoever doesn't vote me i'll peg as scum.

I can carry this game for the town, because i have more mafia experience then all of you combined.

I may have more information than all you normies about the setup.

"Inspiration can come from the deepest darkest of places, even when there is no light to brighten ones MIND

Sure, I can be a sheep, just make sure to place your vote on me in response since I'll probably be busy like... all of today and wouldn't mind being an experiment to see what happens when people are lynched.

Blinkskater

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 06:12 AM
Whats up bros and brahs.

I need everyone to place their votes on me Asap.

Then I will place my vote on one of the scums.

Whoever doesn't vote me i'll peg as scum.

I can carry this game for the town, because i have more mafia experience then all of you combined.

I may have more information than all you normies about the setup.

"Inspiration can come from the deepest darkest of places, even when there is no light to brighten ones MIND
I'm not gonna do shit until you tell me what information you have. Or until you tell me why I should place my vote on you in the first place

AIVION
October 17th, 2018, 06:12 AM
Hold on.

Link to Game which had the Reality Bender role, takes you directly to the role card (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/40778-S-FM-Gamethread?p=695059&viewfull=1#post695059)

DUDE, I'D FUCKING LOVE THAT ROLE.

If that exists, then god help us all.

I got goosebumps just THINKING about what possibilities can arise from this role.

AIVION
October 17th, 2018, 06:13 AM
I'm not gonna do shit until you tell me what information you have. Or until you tell me why I should place my vote on you in the first place

He did say he has additional information...

Didn't he claim Citizen? xD

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 06:15 AM
He did say he has additional information...

Didn't he claim Citizen? xD

I have absolutely no idea what the Lynch is - we could be handing a. scum a motherfucking nightkill or something even worse. I don't buy that shit.

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 06:17 AM
I'm not gonna do shit until you tell me what information you have. Or until you tell me why I should place my vote on you in the first place

I already told you, I don't make many posts but please READ the ones I do post.

Any resistance to votes on me will be looked at very negativley.

Trust me on this one only a scum would put up a fight on voting me right now.

Which means the resistance comes from something on a scum rolecard.

Au Revior <3 Marshmallow Marshall

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 06:17 AM
Magoroth

I know myself to be town. I'm not going to vote anyone else unless I'm given a very good reason. And blink just saying he'll "Lead town to victory" is completely NAI - I could lie to you all as scum, convince you to me, gain a fucking nightkill or some other retarded ability like Mass Murderer or something and then idk. Or maybe it's even a Kingmaker type Lynch, in that the guy who gets elected gets the ability to dispense roles at night. Blinkskater, either reveal your information or begone.

AIVION
October 17th, 2018, 06:17 AM
Whelp, time to make breakfast for the family and go to sleep. Fucking hate graveyard shifts.

Anywho, I have good vibes from Gyr since he's actually posting lol.

Blinkskater seems like he knows what's going on, somehow. So I'd like to see what happens next after that.

Not sure about anyone else, Scumhunting seems sort of hard here since we don't even know who the scum could be (I did see MM Said something about Triad... So there's that I guess? He also said he wasn't town which seems strange).

My day 1 reads are usually shit, so I hope something happens tomorrow (AND I HOPE WE HAVE MORE THAN 24 HOURS NEXT TIME MAAAN :/)

Ta ta for now.

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 06:21 AM
Magoroth

I know myself to be town. I'm not going to vote anyone else unless I'm given a very good reason. And blink just saying he'll "Lead town to victory" is completely NAI - I could lie to you all as scum, convince you to me, gain a fucking nightkill or some other retarded ability like Mass Murderer or something and then idk. Or maybe it's even a Kingmaker type Lynch, in that the guy who gets elected gets the ability to dispense roles at night. Blinkskater, either reveal your information or begone.

Shut up scum.

To the town! Make sure I have the most votes, and Mag has the 2ND most votes.

This is SUPER important, please don't be foolish.

If things work out the way they are supposed to I can reveal more Day 2.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 06:22 AM
I guess Stealth wouldn't make something very OP - so the day Lynch is probably something not very powerful...?
blinkskater, what will you do tomorrow/tonight if I vote you today?

AIVION
October 17th, 2018, 06:22 AM
Magoroth

I know myself to be town. I'm not going to vote anyone else unless I'm given a very good reason. And blink just saying he'll "Lead town to victory" is completely NAI - I could lie to you all as scum, convince you to me, gain a fucking nightkill or some other retarded ability like Mass Murderer or something and then idk. Or maybe it's even a Kingmaker type Lynch, in that the guy who gets elected gets the ability to dispense roles at night. Blinkskater, either reveal your information or begone.

I'm just gonna go with the flow, especially since this'll be, more than likely, my last post for Day 1. Anything can happen and anyone can be anything.

SO MANY POSSIBILITIES, makes you realize how insignificant we really are.

I already told you, I don't make many posts but please READ the ones I do post.

Any resistance to votes on me will be looked at very negativley.

Trust me on this one only a scum would put up a fight on voting me right now.

Which means the resistance comes from something on a scum rolecard.

Au Revior <3 Marshmallow Marshall

I don't trust you, but I would like to see how this ends so whatever, you do you mr. Citizen man I can be a loyal :sheep: for now.

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 06:22 AM
blinkskter

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 06:23 AM
blinkskater

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 06:23 AM
Shut up scum.

To the town! Make sure I have the most votes, and Mag has the 2ND most votes.

This is SUPER important, please don't be foolish.

If things work out the way they are supposed to I can reveal more Day 2.

REVEAL what this Lynch does and how you know this or begone. I refuse to elect you in you don't tell me how the fuck you have "extra information about the setup". Do NOT buy this shit. This could EASILY be a scum strategy or even a fucking jester. DON'T BUY THIS SHIT.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 06:27 AM
The safest thing to do right now is to vote a mid-towny player as majority, and then the. runner. up needs to be someone mildly scummy. I don't want to hear anything else about this and nothing short of blinkskater revealing as 100% CONFIRMED mayor will change my mind about this.

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 06:28 AM
REVEAL what this Lynch does and how you know this or begone. I refuse to elect you in you don't tell me how the fuck you have "extra information about the setup". Do NOT buy this shit. This could EASILY be a scum strategy or even a fucking jester. DON'T BUY THIS SHIT.

You're only making this worse for yourself.

I already hardclaimed town citizen.

Only scum would not want to vote me right now, you are SERIOUSLY digging your own grave.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 06:32 AM
You're only making this worse for yourself.

I already hardclaimed town citizen.

Only scum would not want to vote me right now, you are SERIOUSLY digging your own grave.
Nope, I don't trust you and I have ZERO reason to do so. Do not elect blinkskater unless you want to take a severe risk at Lynch a motherfucking jester or giving triad/cult an all-powerful ability to dispense roles or something retarded like that.

What we could do instead:

-Since we don't trust you, but we have a way of verifying if what you're saying is true, I propose we vote for majority SOMEONE mildly townish (but not overly townish, because if you're lying and it's actually a standard Lynch (you're jester), then they will die), so if they don't die, and the runner-up gets lynched, boom you're much more respectable.

-IF on the other hand you fucking lied, you will get vigged/lynched tomorrow.

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 06:34 AM
Im only allowed to post a few more times...

And this wolf is adament about arguing with me...

I can't reveal as mayor when i'm a CITIZEN.

Just shows you how Magoroth only selectivly reads posts.

Guess who selectivly read posts...SCUM.

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 06:37 AM
He also seems adament that something happens to the top voted player, and its not a lynch.

How can he know such a thing one might ask.

He also got SUPER defensive when I mentioned that, almost fearfull.

Use your brains people and look at the situation from a towns perspective.

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 06:39 AM
Nope, I don't trust you and I have ZERO reason to do so. Do not elect blinkskater unless you want to take a severe risk at Lynch a motherfucking jester or giving triad/cult an all-powerful ability to dispense roles or something retarded like that.

What we could do instead:

-Since we don't trust you, but we have a way of verifying if what you're saying is true, I propose we vote for majority SOMEONE mildly townish (but not overly townish, because if you're lying and it's actually a standard Lynch (you're jester), then they will die), so if they don't die, and the runner-up gets lynched, boom you're much more respectable.

-IF on the other hand you fucking lied, you will get vigged/lynched tomorrow.

"We this"

"We that"

"We dont trust you"

I am town I wouldn't do anything to jepordize this delicate scenario like you are trying to do at this moment.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 06:49 AM
"We this"

"We that"

"We dont trust you"

I am town I wouldn't do anything to jepordize this delicate scenario like you are trying to do at this moment.

If you really can't post much then fucking think on what I'm saying - nobody in. this lobby apart from you knows you to be town. And thus we cannot take your word ford it, when you could even be jester. DESCRIBE how what I'm saying isn't a good town strategy.

Stealthbomber16
October 17th, 2018, 07:03 AM
yep i am pretty sure i unsigned for this but here i am with a role card..

If you did or if you want, I can totally replace you. Let me know.

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 07:06 AM
If you really can't post much then fucking think on what I'm saying - nobody in. this lobby apart from you knows you to be town. And thus we cannot take your word ford it, when you could even be jester. DESCRIBE how what I'm saying isn't a good town strategy.

What you just said about me is EXACTLY what you are trying to do you smelly hypocrite.

Now you say the person with the most votes is going to be lynched?

A bit different from what you said before.

Make sure I have the most votes, not some "middle of the pack townread/could be scummy guy."

Thats not a good idea. You need to use your brain and open up your mind Magoroth.

What scum motivations would I have for doing this right now this early into day one and revealing myself as a scum?

Stop trying to confuse this fucking town and please get in line.

My play right now makes ZERO sense as scum.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 07:08 AM
What you just said about me is EXACTLY what you are trying to do you smelly hypocrite.

Now you say the person with the most votes is going to be lynched?

A bit different from what you said before.

Make sure I have the most votes, not some "middle of the pack townread/could be scummy guy."

Thats not a good idea. You need to use your brain and open up your mind Magoroth.

What scum motivations would I have for doing this right now this early into day one and revealing myself as a scum?

Stop trying to confuse this fucking town and please get in line.

My play right now makes ZERO sense as scum.
Nope it could make sense. Nobody knows jack shit about the setup apart from you. If for instance you gain the ability to give dispense Vigilante, Doctor, Roleblocker and Bodyguard, that could be fucking OP for a scum team, wouldn't it? And I'm not "reframing", I'm giving examples. There's A BILLION things that could happen with a Lynch, and thus if you want us to take your word for it then you shouldn't elect yourself. Anything could happen with a Lynch, from beneficial to the person to downright detrimental. I have no reason to trust you 100% and you could do the same thing as a jester and get yourself lynxhed while 33% of the town dies. Stop being so stubborn.

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 07:29 AM
Ok have fun playing then, since you "know" whats going on

I'll leave you noobs to it, you all can thank Magoroth for this one.

Duces.:weed:

Stealthbomber16
October 17th, 2018, 07:42 AM
blinkskater Gyrlander Distorted Stealthbomber16 Marshmallow Marshall NoctiZ Cryptonic
has anyone actually noticed that there are no Lynch votes apparently? idk if this intended or host error

This is intended

Cryptonic
October 17th, 2018, 07:54 AM
If you really can't post much then fucking think on what I'm saying - nobody in. this lobby apart from you knows you to be town. And thus we cannot take your word ford it, when you could even be jester. DESCRIBE how what I'm saying isn't a good town strategy.

No one knows you are town, what gives you the right to question him like this lol.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 07:59 AM
No one knows you are town, what gives you the right to question him like this lol.
Yes exactly what I'm saying. from HIS perspective, obviously that makes the most sense, but so too from mine, for example. and in fact for everyone else in the lobby. there's a lot of things that could go wrong with this lol... this is why we don't Lynch the first person who yells "trust me" - > we first need to verify whether they can be trusted.

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 08:03 AM
Yes exactly what I'm saying. from HIS perspective, obviously that makes the most sense, but so too from mine, for example. and in fact for everyone else in the lobby. there's a lot of things that could go wrong with this lol... this is why we don't Lynch the first person who yells "trust me" - > we first need to verify whether they can be trusted.

Who said anything about lynching me?

You're talking in circles...

If you can't read into my posts/motivations and find me to be more town than scum.. you're either a scum or a normie.

But i'll be here to say i told ya so, will you?

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 08:04 AM
Who said anything about lynching me?

You're talking in circles...

If you can't read into my posts/motivations and find me to be more town than scum.. you're either a scum or a normie.

But i'll be here to say i told ya so, will you?

I could make the same points you made as a jester and say the exact stuff you said if it's a majority Lynch.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 08:10 AM
Anyway, unless someone can convince me as to why it's a better idea to Lynch Blinkskater as he demands, I will instead start hunting for another person to be lynched; Distorted Gyrlander AIVION Marshmallow Marshall what do you think

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 08:16 AM
Anyway, unless someone can convince me as to why it's a better idea to Lynch Blinkskater as he demands, I will instead start hunting for another person to be lynched; Distorted Gyrlander AIVION Marshmallow Marshall what do you think

Uh you don't read my posts do you?

I can repeat myself for the normies...

Player with the most votes EOD is NOT lynched...

If you still don't understand, i can look up the translation in another language

Let me know K Thx Bye.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 08:18 AM
Uh you don't read my posts do you?

I can repeat myself for the normies...

Player with the most votes EOD is NOT lynched...

If you still don't understand, i can look up the translation in another language

Let me know K Thx Bye.

Let me rephrase.

Anyway, unless someone can convince me as to why it's a better idea to elect Blinkskater as he demands, I will instead start hunting for another person to be elected Number One, and to start looking for a runner up

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 08:25 AM
Hi

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 08:26 AM
I feel kinda sick today and didn't have the time to read anything yet.
Plz be kind~~

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 08:26 AM
Also is blink trying to get lynched with some bs again, or what?
Wtf

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 08:27 AM
I suggest doing night actions before lynching, maybe we have some sheriff after all

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 08:30 AM
Let me rephrase.

Anyway, unless someone can convince me as to why it's a better idea to elect Blinkskater as he demands, I will instead start hunting for another person to be elected Number One, and to start looking for a runner up

Who said anything about being "Elected as #1" ?

Mag are you trying to tell me a townie would react like you are reacting?

Would a scum react the way Gyrlander reacted?

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 08:34 AM
Who said anything about being "Elected as #1" ?

Mag are you trying to tell me a townie would react like you are reacting?

Would a scum react the way Gyrlander reacted?
What Gyrlander is doing is completely NAI lol.
And you are trying to get elected Number one. I thought you couldn't post anymore.
And a townie would be acting just like I am - because what I am saying makes the most sense, given the information we have. Campaigning for your own "election" is really just stubborn and anti-town lol

Cryptonic
October 17th, 2018, 08:35 AM
I suggest doing night actions before lynching, maybe we have some sheriff after all

Ayy i hear u bb
Except we dont know how lynching works. We could have already lynched someone.
People are really dumb for placing votes without thinking lol

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 08:36 AM
Ayy i hear u bb
Except we dont know how lynching works. We could have already lynched someone.
People are really dumb for placing votes without thinking lol
^ This also makes sense.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 08:37 AM
But given blink's reveal I think we might get better information by actually lyinching today.

Cryptonic
October 17th, 2018, 08:41 AM
But given blink's reveal I think we might get better information by actually lyinching today.

Ive been on phone only today so only half read the lasy 100 posts. Can you give me a tldr grom your perspectice about blink.

blinkskater
October 17th, 2018, 08:48 AM
What Gyrlander is doing is completely NAI lol.
And you are trying to get elected Number one. I thought you couldn't post anymore.
And a townie would be acting just like I am - because what I am saying makes the most sense, given the information we have. Campaigning for your own "election" is really just stubborn and anti-town lol

Nah you can't read i'm done with you.

This will be my last post of the day.

Mag claims to not know whats going on, but seems to have some very strong opinions on whats going on... He says different things in literally consecutive posts, blink wants to be lynched! blink wants to be elected!

Im town, it's safe to have your votes on me EOD, i've shown you all enough that i am town, believe me to be town, don't listen to Magoroth and this towns got a shot.

Toodles.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 08:48 AM
Ive been on phone only today so only half read the lasy 100 posts. Can you give me a tldr grom your perspectice about blink.


TL;DR

Blink's posts and demand to be lynched could easily be made from either a town or a scum perspective, or even a jester perspective, since we don't know what exactly electing someone does to them.

We cannot know for a fact that he is town, but we shouldn't ignore the possibility either - and thus:

We should elect someone else to verify his claim of how the lynches work.

Cryptonic
October 17th, 2018, 08:54 AM
Nah you can't read i'm done with you.

This will be my last post of the day.

Mag claims to not know whats going on, but seems to have some very strong opinions on whats going on... He says different things in literally consecutive posts, blink wants to be lynched! blink wants to be elected!

Im town, it's safe to have your votes on me EOD, i've shown you all enough that i am town, believe me to be town, don't listen to Magoroth and this towns got a shot.

Toodles.

You want votes??? Whats your wincon

Cryptonic
October 17th, 2018, 08:55 AM
FUCK im so excited. Weed legalized today. Im in line for opening day. Doors open in 5 mins

NoctiZ
October 17th, 2018, 09:20 AM
Okay I'm back properly and flew over some shit so I could get caught up quickly.

First of all, this whole lynch debate is pretty stupid. I guess you could say that I generally agree with Magoroth that blink wanting to be lynched doesn't have to be town-motivated. I could see a Jester gambit being played like this and it's the most likely theory for me at the moment.
The thing though is that we do not know what the lynch does. Okay, maybe it doesn't actually lynch people or we have some tricky mechanics going on. I would totally rule out not being able to lynch by voting though. How is town gonna move forward otherwise? Have enough TPRs with night kills to replace the lynch? I don't know. I have to assume that this is still a balanced setup and not some kind of Reality Bender shenanigans because if it is then we're fucked anyway.

To me, the most logical conclusion is that the vote should be used as done in regular games. I don't think we should start out by doing the weirdest voting patterns right off the bat just because the setup is completely unknown. Let's assume that there's an EOD lynch, get enough votes on our most likely scum target and see what happens afterwards.

naz
October 17th, 2018, 09:45 AM
If you did or if you want, I can totally replace you. Let me know.
ehhhh out of my love 4 u i will stay but if u feel the need to replace me just do it

Ayy i hear u bb
Except we dont know how lynching works. We could have already lynched someone.
People are really dumb for placing votes without thinking lol
i agree with this, which is why i havent voted yet

Nah you can't read i'm done with you.

This will be my last post of the day.

Mag claims to not know whats going on, but seems to have some very strong opinions on whats going on... He says different things in literally consecutive posts, blink wants to be lynched! blink wants to be elected!

Im town, it's safe to have your votes on me EOD, i've shown you all enough that i am town, believe me to be town, don't listen to Magoroth and this towns got a shot.

Toodles.
sooooooo tldr mag is playing his town meta to a T and mag is town.
I have some comments and thots on this MagvBlink coming soon (tm)

FUCK im so excited. Weed legalized today. Im in line for opening day. Doors open in 5 mins
*moves to canada*

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 09:51 AM
ehhhh out of my love 4 u i will stay but if u feel the need to replace me just do it

i agree with this, which is why i havent voted yet

sooooooo tldr mag is playing his town meta to a T and mag is town.
I have some comments and thots on this MagvBlink coming soon (tm)

*moves to canada*
Nah blink is just so stubborn that he's lying/refusing to see what my words mean and just jumping to conclusions. I am not flopping.

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 09:58 AM
I analyzed sb's opening posts.

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 09:58 AM
The first messed up text block in the opening post is the 3rd verse of the german poem Hyperions Schicksalslied from Friedrich Hölderlin btw.
It reads:
Doch uns ist gegeben
Auf keiner Stätte zu ruhen;
Es schwinden, es fallen,
Die leidenden Meschen
Blindlings von einer
Stunde zur andern
Wie Wasser von Klippe
zu Klippe geworfen,
Jahrlang ins Ungewisse hinab.

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 09:58 AM
The 2nd block reads this:

Free from fate, like the smulbering
Suckling breath the immortals.
Pure, unsullied,
In dub' that enfolds
It blooms for aye,
The flower of their spirit,
And the eyes of the blessed
Gaze in tranquil
Brightness eternal,

No idea where it's from, google couldn't find it.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 10:51 AM
NocTiz understood very well what I was saying, and agrees with me that what blink is doing isn't necessarily town-sided.

I think I can agree with what Noctiz is saying here, but only if at least one or two people agree to vote a SPECIFIC player at EoD or something so that we can verify blink's theory. We CANNOT afford a tie because we have absolutely no idea what happens in a tie scenario - blink didn't inform us on that and thus we cannot afford to have a tie. And thus we need a clear winner as well as a runner-up, but that's something for another day entirely.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:04 AM
Magoroth

I know myself to be town. I'm not going to vote anyone else unless I'm given a very good reason. And blink just saying he'll "Lead town to victory" is completely NAI - I could lie to you all as scum, convince you to me, gain a fucking nightkill or some other retarded ability like Mass Murderer or something and then idk. Or maybe it's even a Kingmaker type Lynch, in that the guy who gets elected gets the ability to dispense roles at night. Blinkskater, either reveal your information or begone.
how do u know majority isnt lynched still? u go off about how u dont trust him but u immediately trust the part where he says the most voted person isnt lynched? even though u quoted that part and said u dont buy it? lol

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:06 AM
Nope, I don't trust you and I have ZERO reason to do so. Do not elect blinkskater unless you want to take a severe risk at Lynch a motherfucking jester or giving triad/cult an all-powerful ability to dispense roles or something retarded like that.

What we could do instead:

-Since we don't trust you, but we have a way of verifying if what you're saying is true, I propose we vote for majority SOMEONE mildly townish (but not overly townish, because if you're lying and it's actually a standard Lynch (you're jester), then they will die), so if they don't die, and the runner-up gets lynched, boom you're much more respectable.

-IF on the other hand you fucking lied, you will get vigged/lynched tomorrow.

oh ill keep reading lol

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:08 AM
"We this"

"We that"

"We dont trust you"

I am town I wouldn't do anything to jepordize this delicate scenario like you are trying to do at this moment.


i trust somethings going on. blinks not the kind to appeal towards emotion to run a scum strategy.

blinkskater yolo?

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 11:11 AM
i trust somethings going on. blinks not the kind to appeal towards emotion to run a scum strategy.

blinkskater yolo?
How about jester?

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:12 AM
Yes exactly what I'm saying. from HIS perspective, obviously that makes the most sense, but so too from mine, for example. and in fact for everyone else in the lobby. there's a lot of things that could go wrong with this lol... this is why we don't Lynch the first person who yells "trust me" - > we first need to verify whether they can be trusted.

i dunno....is it bad I have the belief that blink is being honest, but then also an evil curiosity to potentially spring a trap in the setup?? lol

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 11:13 AM
i dunno....is it bad I have the belief that blink is being honest, but then also an evil curiosity to potentially spring a trap in the setup?? lol
I have the same belief too, but I'm not going to risk that shit and then go "Holy shit I shouldn't've let him do that just cuz it's not his meta".

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:14 AM
Anyway, unless someone can convince me as to why it's a better idea to Lynch Blinkskater as he demands, I will instead start hunting for another person to be lynched; Distorted Gyrlander AIVION Marshmallow Marshall what do you think

Magoroth eh i feel blinks being sincere. very strange strategy if hes not. but i believe something in his rolecard is severely limiting him here and somehow we need to "elect" him to get more. he said more, not everything so i think things may continue like this? almost like unlocking something lol. i dunno sounds fun though, im going to bite! =D

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 11:16 AM
@Magoroth (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=29730) eh i feel blinks being sincere. very strange strategy if hes not. but i believe something in his rolecard is severely limiting him here and somehow we need to "elect" him to get more. he said more, not everything so i think things may continue like this? almost like unlocking something lol. i dunno sounds fun though, im going to bite! =D
If he's Jester, it's not at all a strange strategy lol. It makes sense.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:16 AM
Ayy i hear u bb
Except we dont know how lynching works. We could have already lynched someone.
People are really dumb for placing votes without thinking lol

lol..if first person voted is lynched, rip me.. i doubt he would do that just because scum would just need to be here first thing each day. but eh.....

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:18 AM
TL;DR

Blink's posts and demand to be lynched could easily be made from either a town or a scum perspective, or even a jester perspective, since we don't know what exactly electing someone does to them.

We cannot know for a fact that he is town, but we shouldn't ignore the possibility either - and thus:

We should elect someone else to verify his claim of how the lynches work.

my rolecard says nothing about elections, does yours? I think it may be specific for his card/role.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:22 AM
NocTiz understood very well what I was saying, and agrees with me that what blink is doing isn't necessarily town-sided.

I think I can agree with what Noctiz is saying here, but only if at least one or two people agree to vote a SPECIFIC player at EoD or something so that we can verify blink's theory. We CANNOT afford a tie because we have absolutely no idea what happens in a tie scenario - blink didn't inform us on that and thus we cannot afford to have a tie. And thus we need a clear winner as well as a runner-up, but that's something for another day entirely.

i think its obvious blink cant inform us on anything. i believe he is restricted until voted majority.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:22 AM
How about jester?

I got balls, les do it =)

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 11:24 AM
Can someone quote blink's post in which he explained voting? I have a terrible headache and can't find it.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:27 AM
If blink was a Jester i think he would want to play this setup a little longer than D1. fuck especially as a neutral benign rofl that would be great to troll around. so I don't believe he is a jester.

What is obvious is he is:

1) limited in his rolecard by how many posts he can make

2) limited in his rolecard by what he is able to say/reveal

3) voting him top voter seems to fix it so he can talk normally or reveal more info. his wordiing was as top voter he can vote a scum, that is strange and i want moar of it!


so - this setup odd, we have 0 information on what happes; im down to find out :)

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:27 AM
Can someone quote blink's post in which he explained voting? I have a terrible headache and can't find it.

he just says top voter isnt lynched. i dont think hes able to explain anything. i dont think hes even allowed to post more. so im running with it.

NoctiZ
October 17th, 2018, 11:29 AM
Personally, I'm putting down blink as jester for the time being and would not want to vote him up today.

I agree that a tie today would not be good but I don't buy into these paranoid voting mechanics. Thus, as a compromise, I'm willing to vote some of my lesser scum reads instead of MM so we can ensure having more votes on someone. AIVION looking like a snack as well because of the things he said when he first started posting. My scumdar is tingling.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 11:29 AM
I suppose I would be willing to lynch blinkskater if it really came down to it, but it's very risky.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:33 AM
I suppose I would be willing to lynch blinkskater if it really came down to it, but it's very risky.

ya...but it sounds fun lol i just dont see him as a jester trying to get lynched D1. i think he would rather a more unique win than that. but hell this would be pretty unique, but then hes out of crazy mystery setup day 1, dunno if he would do that. I think he would troll around as a neutral/jester if he was.

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 11:33 AM
I think it's possible that there is a daytime blackmailer or something of the sort. My rolecard specifically mentions that I can become immune to abilities affecting speech.

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 11:34 AM
So I'm gonna say blink got blackmailed today.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 11:35 AM
I think it's possible that there is a daytime blackmailer or something of the sort. My rolecard specifically mentions that I can become immune to abilities affecting speech.
Ok just what the hell is this setup lmao

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:36 AM
Magoroth i honestly find it more probable (than blink being a Jester) that he is a scum and trying to convince us now that voting him wont kill him, when in fact it does. but if he pulled it off today it would solidify him as not being able to be lynched (this would require night immunity). This would sound like a more probable strategy for blink if he WAS able to talk and he was just pulling somehting out of his ass right now.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 11:36 AM
So I'm gonna say blink got blackmailed today.
I think that's very possible actually, now that I think about it, blink used full sentences and left a space in between each sentence. I've NEVER seen him talk like that, EVER. Might it be a code?

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:37 AM
I think it's possible that there is a daytime blackmailer or something of the sort. My rolecard specifically mentions that I can become immune to abilities affecting speech.

omg wtf. lol

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 11:37 AM
if there's a blackmailer esque role in this game... rip guys it's Karma for me I guess, lol.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:39 AM
I dont think so. him refering to this as a delicate situation and seems to be using real appeals to emotion. ill reread his posts for any clues but i dont see him using that kind of speech being blackmailed with a task of getting himself lynched. and abilities effecting speech... that could be anything lol i dont see it being a blackmailer, i see it being something fking crazy.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:39 AM
if there's a blackmailer esque role in this game... rip guys it's Karma for me I guess, lol.

OMG @blackmailer please blackmail magoroth to do some insane shit if u exist!!!!! yes! lol

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 11:40 AM
I dont think so. him refering to this as a delicate situation and seems to be using real appeals to emotion. ill reread his posts for any clues but i dont see him using that kind of speech being blackmailed with a task of getting himself lynched. and abilities effecting speech... that could be anything lol i dont see it being a blackmailer, i see it being something fking crazy.
I think he is limited in what he can say or how he can say it, but I don't see it as necessarily a blackmailer. If there is a blackmailer role, I 11000000% believe it will be used on me at some point

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:43 AM
Whats up bros and brahs.

I need everyone to place their votes on me Asap.

Then I will place my vote on one of the scums.

Whoever doesn't vote me i'll peg as scum.

I can carry this game for the town, because i have more mafia experience then all of you combined.

I may have more information than all you normies about the setup.

"Inspiration can come from the deepest darkest of places, even when there is no light to brighten ones MIND

this post. mind is bold, all caps, and underlined. why? do we have a mind controller?

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 11:44 AM
OMG @blackmailer please blackmail magoroth to do some insane shit if u exist!!!!! yes! lol
I read blink's posts as meaning that he had some ulterior strategy for D2 that he couldn't share with us because it would defeat the purpose of the strategy. Not as blink being FORCED not to speak.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:45 AM
this post. mind is bold, all caps, and underlined. why? do we have a mind controller?

also lol at the sheepsaysmeep

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:48 AM
I can carry this game for the town, because i have more mafia experience then all of you combined.

This is a quote from when we caught sheepsaysmeep as scum.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 11:50 AM
This is a quote from when we caught sheepsaysmeep as scum.
So wtf does that mean

naz
October 17th, 2018, 11:50 AM
I think it's possible that there is a daytime blackmailer or something of the sort. My rolecard specifically mentions that I can become immune to abilities affecting speech.

this post is either true and towny or full of shit and scummy. havent decided yet:thonky:

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 11:51 AM
Oh yeah..... There's no majority. Or there is but we don't know. At least, we don't have a "X votes to lynch" thing. But for this game to be a game of Mafia, we need lynches, so I assume there's a way to lynch."There's no majority"
I just read through a bunch of posts and MM actually said this. That's totally a scumslip imo, when there wasn't even a single flip yet.

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 11:52 AM
this post is either true and towny or full of shit and scummy. havent decided yet:thonky:It's true, believe me

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:54 AM
I already told you, I don't make many posts but please READ the ones I do post.

Any resistance to votes on me will be looked at very negativley.

Trust me on this one only a scum would put up a fight on voting me right now.

Which means the resistance comes from something on a scum rolecard.

Au Revior <3 Marshmallow Marshall

he has info in his rolecard and apparently so does a scum.

>=O amg

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 11:55 AM
It's true, believe me
If so, what was he blackmailed to do? Lynch himself?

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 11:56 AM
I already told you, I don't make many posts but please READ the ones I do post.

Any resistance to votes on me will be looked at very negativley.

Trust me on this one only a scum would put up a fight on voting me right now.

Which means the resistance comes from something on a scum rolecard.

Au Revior <3 Marshmallow Marshall

he has info in his rolecard and apparently so does a scum.

>=O amg
Ya I'm starting to get tahat feeling as well, when he said I was scum... lol

I think you're right Distorted

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 11:57 AM
MM commented on "there has to be a way to lynch people in this setup". why? usually if there is no votes than majority lynch is off, thats it. not that people cannot be lynched. I do not believe thats where MM's mind would go that people cant be lynched. he knows something else about the voting mechanic.

I think we need to vote blink today.

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 11:59 AM
If so, what was he blackmailed to do? Lynch himself?Well what do you think? We don't even know that he is blackmailed. Imo it's just likely that there is one in the game, because of my rolecard.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:00 PM
MM referred to someone as a slave earlier in this game. what if MM can make slaves? that post just sticks out to me still lol not something i see him just slipping in. it made 0 sense.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:01 PM
MM referred to someone as a slave earlier in this game. what if MM can make slaves? that post just sticks out to me still lol not something i see him just slipping in. it made 0 sense.

i also have a somewhat strong reason to think MM is town as well.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:02 PM
I dunno, i think our safest course of action with 6 hours left in the day is make blink our #1 voted person and then......hmmm lets find who we will have as #2, because apparently they get lynched.

naz
October 17th, 2018, 12:03 PM
"There's no majority"
I just read through a bunch of posts and MM actually said this. That's totally a scumslip imo, when there wasn't even a single flip yet.

MM scum slips on role cards, his new scum meta. Check & mate

Also if theres a blackmailer can have everyone send me noods thank yew

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 12:03 PM
I dunno, i think our safest course of action with 6 hours left in the day is make blink our #1 voted person and then......hmmm lets find who we will have as #2, because apparently they get lynched.6 hours? This isn't a 48 hour day?

naz
October 17th, 2018, 12:04 PM
EoD is in like 7 hours, I'm not gonna be here for it
blinkskater
carry me daddy

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:04 PM
I dunno, i think our safest course of action with 6 hours left in the day is make blink our #1 voted person and then......hmmm lets find who we will have as #2, because apparently they get lynched.

im fine with blink being #1 and

AIVION or Gyrlander #2. for lack of posts.

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 12:04 PM
Nvm you're right. Sb said day 1 shall have 24 hours.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 12:04 PM
i also have a somewhat strong reason to think MM is town as well.
Same
also if MM can make people into slaves please vig him, I don't want to be blackmailed, fuck that shit

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:05 PM
6 hours? This isn't a 48 hour day?

check timer on page 1, says 6 hours.

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 12:05 PM
I honestly haven't read half of d1 and won't have the chance to do so. Soz for that

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 12:05 PM
meh I guess there's no turning back from this, I won't go "I told you so" if blink ends up being jester, you convinced me

blinkskater

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 12:08 PM
meh I guess there's no turning back from this, I won't go "I told you so" if blink ends up being jester, you convinced me

blinkskaterThat's convenient to say

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 12:10 PM
That's convenient to say
Lol yes it's very convenient to lynch a jester xD

naz
October 17th, 2018, 12:11 PM
im fine with blink being #1 and

AIVION or Gyrlander #2. for lack of posts.

i am also fine w it being the way it is right now lul: tie between mag and MM

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 12:12 PM
i am also fine w it being the way it is right now lul: tie between mag and MM
Marshmallow Marshall

NoctiZ
October 17th, 2018, 12:19 PM
I feel it's pretty weird to connect a possible blackmailer to how blink has been acting this game. blink's behaviour IMO is justified by whatever is what in his rolecard. My guess is jester and therefore he's full of shit but if he's anything else then his role mechanics probably prevent him from saying why we have to vote him as #1. But Kenny, you bringing up a possible blackmailer seems weird. Attempt at discrediting on what blink is saying, that's what it looks like to me. This assumes that what blink is saying is true which would paint Kenny as scum in this case. I'm going with unlikely, though.


meh I guess there's no turning back from this, I won't go "I told you so" if blink ends up being jester, you convinced me

blinkskater

Tbh I still think MM is a safe lynch and I see MM behaving exactly the same as the last game we played, role slips included. And I'm not one to gamble on some mechanics we can't know about so I'd really appeal for a MM lynch.

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 12:27 PM
i am also fine w it being the way it is right now lul: tie between mag and MMThere is no tie rn, but I definitely agree that there should be one.
Marshmallow Marshall

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:28 PM
I feel it's pretty weird to connect a possible blackmailer to how blink has been acting this game. blink's behaviour IMO is justified by whatever is what in his rolecard. My guess is jester and therefore he's full of shit but if he's anything else then his role mechanics probably prevent him from saying why we have to vote him as #1. But Kenny, you bringing up a possible blackmailer seems weird. Attempt at discrediting on what blink is saying, that's what it looks like to me. This assumes that what blink is saying is true which would paint Kenny as scum in this case. I'm going with unlikely, though.



Tbh I still think MM is a safe lynch and I see MM behaving exactly the same as the last game we played, role slips included. And I'm not one to gamble on some mechanics we can't know about so I'd really appeal for a MM lynch.

i would rather get rid of 1 of the more inactives.

Aivion says he wont be able to be here much, and Gyrlander has made like, 2 posts.

You seem to have it out for MM since the beginning though, what are you finding about him thats so scummy?

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:29 PM
There is no tie rn, but I definitely agree that there should be one.
Marshmallow Marshall

also, why do u believe MM is scum?

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 12:32 PM
I feel it's pretty weird to connect a possible blackmailer to how blink has been acting this game. blink's behaviour IMO is justified by whatever is what in his rolecard. My guess is jester and therefore he's full of shit but if he's anything else then his role mechanics probably prevent him from saying why we have to vote him as #1. But Kenny, you bringing up a possible blackmailer seems weird. Attempt at discrediting on what blink is saying, that's what it looks like to me. This assumes that what blink is saying is true which would paint Kenny as scum in this case. I'm going with unlikely, though.



Tbh I still think MM is a safe lynch and I see MM behaving exactly the same as the last game we played, role slips included. And I'm not one to gamble on some mechanics we can't know about so I'd really appeal for a MM lynch.He was already discredited towards being jester to begin with. Adding him being a blackmailed townie as another possibility actually improves his standing, because a blackmailed townie could just decide to stop and die, instead of trying to get the lynch through.

NoctiZ
October 17th, 2018, 12:33 PM
i would rather get rid of 1 of the more inactives.

Aivion says he wont be able to be here much, and Gyrlander has made like, 2 posts.

You seem to have it out for MM since the beginning though, what are you finding about him thats so scummy?

MM slipped IMO regarding role information and also focused in on some super tiny detail (I can go back for it if you want a quote) for which he started pressuring Magoroth. Desperate to gain town points. And on top of that MM's behaviour is the same as last game where he was scum. To me, that's a lot more telling than lynching inactives simply because they are inactive. Like, I get it, chances are good and I said that AIVION is a decent second choice, Gyr not so much in my eyes. But for a D1 lynch MM is a safe bet in my book.

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 12:33 PM
also, why do u believe MM is scum?He said there's triad and that the town does not have majority. Looked to me like he slipped as 3rd party

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:33 PM
Marshmallow Marshall. are you reality bender?

If I was I wouldn't tell you, dummy... but no I'm not. The "????" game was about SCP Foundation, and we were all people working for it, if I remember correctly, and the Reality Bender was an experience that had turned wrong. I believe it has nothing to do with this game, but I wanted a good example of messy and unexpeted hidden setup.

And yes I noticed there's no L-X, only the # of votes. I think it's intended since host said he wasnt telling us how lynch works :D

naz
October 17th, 2018, 12:34 PM
I feel it's pretty weird to connect a possible blackmailer to how blink has been acting this game. blink's behaviour IMO is justified by whatever is what in his rolecard. My guess is jester and therefore he's full of shit but if he's anything else then his role mechanics probably prevent him from saying why we have to vote him as #1. But Kenny, you bringing up a possible blackmailer seems weird. Attempt at discrediting on what blink is saying, that's what it looks like to me. This assumes that what blink is saying is true which would paint Kenny as scum in this case. I'm going with unlikely, though.



Tbh I still think MM is a safe lynch and I see MM behaving exactly the same as the last game we played, role slips included. And I'm not one to gamble on some mechanics we can't know about so I'd really appeal for a MM lynch.

Host intentionally disabled lynch, which probably means whoever has most votes day 1 is not getting lynched, but rather something else?
How do you suggest killing MM today then?

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:35 PM
MM slipped IMO regarding role information and also focused in on some super tiny detail (I can go back for it if you want a quote) for which he started pressuring Magoroth. Desperate to gain town points. And on top of that MM's behaviour is the same as last game where he was scum. To me, that's a lot more telling than lynching inactives simply because they are inactive. Like, I get it, chances are good and I said that AIVION is a decent second choice, Gyr not so much in my eyes. But for a D1 lynch MM is a safe bet in my book.

whats to say that town doesnt have info in their roles? i would assume they would, i mean blink seems like he has a lot more info than MM in his rolecard. but MM also slipped on the fact that it doesnt say "town" in his rolecard. it does in some peoples, but it doesn't in mine either. i dont see a scum saying "my rolecard doesnt say town in it" when he doesn't know that it doesnt say "alignment: town" or something.

Ganelon
October 17th, 2018, 12:35 PM
anyway case in point I'd rather MM die than myself. I don't think he's scummy but I want to live.

blinkskater
since it's no longer necessary for me to vote MM.

Distorted
October 17th, 2018, 12:36 PM
whats to say that town doesnt have info in their roles? i would assume they would, i mean blink seems like he has a lot more info than MM in his rolecard. but MM also slipped on the fact that it doesnt say "town" in his rolecard. it does in some peoples, but it doesn't in mine either. i dont see a scum saying "my rolecard doesnt say town in it" when he doesn't know that it doesnt say "alignment: town" or something.

i commented to the post "lol" and he commented back "what lol?"

it was becuase he mentioned that. only reason I mention it is because your using a rolecard slip for a push, and ill use it as a defense =P

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 12:37 PM
whats to say that town doesnt have info in their roles? i would assume they would, i mean blink seems like he has a lot more info than MM in his rolecard. but MM also slipped on the fact that it doesnt say "town" in his rolecard. it does in some peoples, but it doesn't in mine either. i dont see a scum saying "my rolecard doesnt say town in it" when he doesn't know that it doesnt say "alignment: town" or something.Lol "it doesn't in mine either." The host literally said all rolecards include alignments.

Kenny
October 17th, 2018, 12:38 PM
Rolecards have been sent.

You should have
Role name
Alignment
Role info
Wincon

In no particular order.

I know I mentioned Gender in the signup thread but decided to just not do that.

Game will start fairly soon. Stay tuned. Day 1 shall be 24 hours. I’m not gonna tell you how lynch works LUL.Here's the post.

Marshmallow Marshall
October 17th, 2018, 12:38 PM
nah my rolecard just says i need to eliminate all other factions, nothing about what they are.

Hm, so we're in that kind of setup...

Okay

We all have different rolecards, and those are a big puzzle. I even wonder if some of them fit with the two weird texts on host posts, but that's speculation. If you have any information that can help in your rolecard, SAY IT (without claiming), because rolecards are the only thing we are actually sure of about new information.


I was also told that my card had the most WIFOM in it..... lol