M-FM III Gamethread

[Luna]

Greetings, and welcome aboard the Battlestar Galactica!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0FMaEneO0

Humanity is a vast and prosperous race, spread out over twelve planets and allied under the government of the Twelve Colonies, with the planet 'Caprica' being the centre of culture and political power within the system.

Forty years ago, the Humans created the Cylons. An advanced machine race, the Cylons were supposed to be our servants. They rebelled, and plunged the Twelve Colonies into a bitter conflict. An armistice was eventually signed, and the machine race of walking robots left human space. The inherent distrust of computers and machines was soon lessened, as humanity began to grow lax in peacetime.

The Cylons, however, were not finished. They created human bodies for themselves; twelve models in all, hundreds of these Human lookalikes descended upon the Twelve Colonies and infiltrated every level of society. These children of humanity knew that their parents could not change their violent ways and therefore sought to launch a pre-emptive strike which would annihilate all of humanity in one fell swoop. One of the human models, a number Six, gained access to the Ministry of Defence mainframe via the seduction of Dr. Gaius Baltar (a scientific prodigy, a flamboyant and decadent man who was overseeing the update of the whole defence system).

This model number Six spread a Cylon virus through every line of code in the system. When the Cylons attacked they could neutralise all opposition at the flick of a switch; entire squadrons of fighters lost power before they could engage the Cylon fleet, and Cylon 'basestars' were left free to cleanse the entire system. Each of the Twelve Colonies suffered at the hands of the Cylons, dozens of nuclear detonations pounded every planet, and the Cylons quickly occupied their new territory.

All was not lost for Humanity, however. One of the twelve 'Battlestars' (super-heavy military cruisers) had survived the initial strike; the Battlestar Galactica. This particular Battlestar, under the command of Commander William Adama and Colonel Saul Tigh, had actually just been decommissioned by the military. An antique ship, a relic from the previous Cylon war, the Battlestar Galactica had no ship-wide computer network. By having no central mainframe and relying solely upon the work of the men and woman of the crew, this Battlestar was unaffected by the Cylon virus. The Cylon attack occurred during the decommissioning ceremony, where the ship would be turned into a museum and school. Attending the ceremony was Secretary for Education Laura Roslin, amongst other notable figures.

As the Battlestar Galactica prepared for war, Laura Roslin took command of the luxury space cruiser that she and many others had taken as transport to the Battlestar decommissioning ceremony. She began rounding up as many survivors of the attack as she could, and soon had a large convoy of civilian ships following her. When word came that the President of the Twelve Colonies and the rest of the Presidential Cabinet were dead, Laura Roslin was sworn in as President and her cruiser changed its identity to 'Colonial One'.

At their rendezvous at Ragnar Station (where the Battlestar Galactica had gone to re-arm and re-supply), the new President convinced Commander Adama that the war was already lost. The Battlestar Galactica, herding its civilian fleet of 50,000 survivors, began the long flight away from the Cylons and towards whatever future awaited them. Their plan; to find the legendary 'Thirteenth Colony', one of the founding tribes which didn't settle with the other twelve but headed out and settled on a far-away planet called 'Earth'.

On their heels are the Cylons; unbeknownst to Commander Adama, members of his crew are actually Cylons in disguise. Their intent is unknown; some do not know they are even Cylons.

There have also been disgruntled rumblings in the crew bays and mess halls... a tired and disillusioned crew is growing weary of their fate, of being the underdogs with no hope of promotion or advancement. A mutiny is afoot, and soon it will engulf the whole of Battlestar Galactica unless the Loyalists can bring the perpetrators to justice.

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Role List:


Detective
Lookout
(Hidden Loyalist Power Role)
(Hidden Loyalist Power Role)
(Hidden Loyalist Power Role)
(Hidden Loyalist Power Role)
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
(Hidden Neutral Role)
Cylon Traitor - Sharon Valerii "Boomer"
Cylon - Caprica Six
Cylon - D'Anna Beirs
Cylon Sleeper Agent
(Hidden Mutineer Role)
(Hidden Mutineer Role)
(Hidden Mutineer Role)
(Hidden Mutineer Role)


Possible Loyalist Power Roles: Bus Driver, Lookout, Detective, Coroner, Doctor, Armoursmith, Escort, Gunsmith, Journalist, Mortician, Whore, Cop, Insane Cop, Medical Student

Possible Mutineer Roles: Consort, Framer, Marine (Mafioso), Drug Dealer, Consigliere, Janitor, Blackmailer, Actress, Fabricator

Possible Neutral Roles: Witch, Executioner, Corrupt Journalist, Jester


Loyalists: See the Mutineers and Cylons lynched or killed at night (Cylon Traitor does not count towards this goal).
Mutineers: See the Loyalists and Cylons lose.
Cylons: Get more kills than the other Cylon. If this objective is achieved, bonus points will be awarded for killing all power roles.
Sleeper Agent: Wins with the Loyalists, is Loyalist-aligned in every respect.
Cylon Traitor: Kill a Power Role during the day.
Witch: Survive until the end of the game. Can win with Mafia.
Executioner: See your Loyalist target lynched. If your target dies at night, you become a Jester.
Jester: Get yourself lynched during the day.
Corrupt Journalist: Wins with the Mafia or any neutrals (including Cylons).

Player List:



1. CmG
2. Dust
3. Kromos
4. wolfcheese
5. Sumikoko
6. Ubernox
7. Zane
8. Borkbot
9. RandomNumbers0
10. Goremancer
11. TheWaaagh
12. Deathfire123
13. divemaster127
14. Zack
15. jaczac
16. Rocshi
17. Mopin
18. Escaho
19. CaptainUsopp
20. Sir William Wallace

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Here are some notable rules:

1) Each thread will start during the DAY.
2) Once the time limit is up, or a lynch has been hammered, the day will end. If a lynch is hammered while I am not present, the lynch will be locked but day chat may still continue. Once I post in the thread declaring the end of the day, you may not post in the thread anymore.
3) All night actions must be PM'd to me here, on Luna.
4) Obviously you may not talk about this game outside of the day/night threads, or outside of dead chat.
5) Anyone attempting to interfere with this game from the outside, or any griefing from the players, will be noted and your participance in future FM games will be unlikely.
6) If you have any questions, PM them to me directly. I will update the Q/A section in the FAQ thread on a regular basis, be sure to check there regularly.

Read this:

Hello everyone, I hope you all enjoy M-FMIII! For those of you that haven't seen this fantastic series, don't worry you won't need to know anything and there aren't any major spoilers. For those of you that have seen the series, you'll understand that I can't really do justice to the plot so we'll have to make do with a quick summary and just have our own thematic storyline :)

Everyone has their own RP name associated with their role. Under no circumstances must this RP name be revealed. You may not discuss your secondary objectives at all, except in night chat if you have it. Also note that the secondary objectives are not all of a similar balance; they are there for thematic style and a bit of fun, some of them are hard. A couple of you have also been told of another RP characters existence in the game, and possibly their role; this is intentional, but revealing this information is considered discussing your secondary objective and is completely forbidden. You may of course discuss the show and its characters, but please make no attempt to claim your RP character. It may be detrimental to you, and not all characters will have the role and alignment you might think they should have.

Quorum Elections:

Today, you may vote for your Quorum representatives! The Quorum is the presidential cabinet, democratically elected, and you may elect TWO candidates for this position. There is no limit that must be reached - the two candidates with the highest number of votes will be elected at the end of the day, any draws will be settled by random.org.

You may therefore vote twice today. One of your votes should be in bold and green, and the other should be in bold and in red. For example:

-vote Luna
-vote Chuck Norris

You must tally your votes in Cyan like this:

Vote Tally:

Luna (1) - Luna
Chuck Norris (1) - Luna

You may not vote for yourself, you may not vote for the same person twice.

The power of the Quorum members are as follows:

- The Quorum members may talk at night
- The Quorum members each have a voting power of 2, but this is only in effect if the Quorum members both vote to lynch the same person; this means that a total of 4 votes will be added to a lynch if both members vote
- If one Quorum member dies, the other retains their voting power of 2 and may use it on whoever he/she wishes

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Questions:

As per normal, it is difficult for a host to remember to include everything. Please PM me any questions you may have and I will answer them anonymously in the Q/A section of my FAQ thread. For any grumbling about balance, well, I will not respond; I can't change things on the fly, but if there is a technical query I will respond.

Welcome, everyone, to Battlestar Galactica. So Say We All.

The Day will end around 1pm GMT, 24th December.

[Dust]

Okay let's get started, people

[jaczac]

I would like to be put in the runnig for president
I claim citizen and will serve the Galactica well.
Thank you.

[Rocshi]

HELLOOOOOOO EVERYBODY.

I would ALSO like to nominate myself for the Quorum.

:D

[wolfcheese]

*steps up on podium*

I do not want to be elected

*gets off of podium*

Just like the good ol' days.

[Sumikoko]

Haha, Wolf, so modest as always. :)
-puts on reporter glasses-
Sir, a comment or two? Picture? Look over here! Sir!

[CmG]

Hi guys, I am here to save the day from those pesky cylon lovers. Everybody could be a cylon so we have to be sure to elect the right persons for it.

Plan A: Human PR reveals today will get elected and will be checked tonight if he tells the truth. The 2. elected person isn't that important because if this thing goes right we will never have the need of the extra votes anyway and it's good enough if those extra votes doesn't come in evil hands. Claiming 2 PR roles right now is too risky because we don't know how many kill preventer we have.


hm you know citizens getting elected is kinda risky? 6 citizens , 1 is a sleeper agent= 18,3% chance from start to be a murderer. If he dies your chance rises to become the next to 20% to 25% to 33% ...
= BAD IDEA!

Feel free to vote me! I will do my best to win this with you or against you depends on your alignment.

[Rocshi]

Haha, Wolf, so modest as always. :)
-puts on reporter glasses-
Sir, a comment or two? Picture? Look over here! Sir!

Are you claiming journalist?
Just wondering.

[wolfcheese]

Stop stalking me :sad:

This is probably naive but Ima gonna start the votes by voting on the past two mvps :) I want to put these here because its the end of the day and I might not be around much tomorrow.

-vote Dust
-vote jaczac

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (1) - wolfcheese

[CmG]

Plan B: every day 2 citizen have to reveal and get checked if they are killers. after 3 Days we know who the sleeper agent is and can roleblock him any night to keep the casualties as low as possible. If the Mutineers have a consort on their team i highly suggest helping us against the sleeper agent thread.

Your framer doesn't want all those citizens dead or he has some problems hiding problems.

[Rocshi]

starting day now is terrible for EU. perfect for US though.
wait that means nothing will happen until I go to sleep.
-_-

[CmG]

Plan B: every day 2 citizen have to reveal and get checked if they are killers. after 3 Days we know who the sleeper agent is and can roleblock him any night to keep the casualties as low as possible. If the Mutineers have a consort on their team i highly suggest helping us against the sleeper agent threat.

Your framer doesn't want all those citizens dead or he has some problems hiding problems.

Keep in mind that the other PR roles can still search for the Mutineers and get them lynched as fast as possible.

[BorkBot]

hm you know citizens getting elected is kinda risky? 6 citizens , 1 is a sleeper agent= 18,3% chance from start to be a murderer. If he dies your chance rises to become the next to 20% to 25% to 33% ...
= BAD IDEA!


But a sleeper agent isn't an evil role. They must still try to win with us, the Cylons can't kill them by themselves (unless Cylons can use their Agent to commit suicide?). In fact, the citizens being kept alive is what protects us from double kills by Cylon Serial Killers.

The only risk that exists is Cylons claiming to be Citizens. There's no real way to discover the Cylons, is there?

[Escaho]

Hey all, FM newbie, reporting for duty!

Time to get the ball rolling!

So say we all.

[Goremancer]

so quorum is the town leader right? who is nominating again?

[Escaho]

so quorum is the town leader right? who is nominating again?

Sort of. Quorum consists of two people. If they both vote to lynch the same person, their votes count as 2 votes (so, a combined vote by both people will result in a vote of 4). I assume individual votes are 1 if they are not directed at the same person. However, if one of the Quorum dies, the remaining member will always a voting power of 2.

[CmG]

But a sleeper agent isn't an evil role. They must still try to win with us, the Cylons can't kill them by themselves (unless Cylons can use their Agent to commit suicide?). In fact, the citizens being kept alive is what protects us from double kills by Cylon Serial Killers.

The only risk that exists is Cylons claiming to be Citizens. There's no real way to discover the Cylons, is there?

No he is not evil. But everytime a citizen dies you have to check your elected citizen again if he is now a sleeper agent. That's BAD If he isn't the sleeper agent from start.

There is an easy way to find them. It's called wordchecking in day chat. Cylons have a hard day to hide their nature in day chat. If they want garanteed control over the sleeper they have to outweight the other Cylon with the codeword multiple time.

Just keep looking for words who get repeated. Avoid names, roles and other stuff in your posts or you will be getting suspicious.

IF WE ALL GONNA DO THIS WE WILL FIND THE EVILS PRETTY FAST!.

[Rocshi]

So far, me, Jaczac, and CmG have expressed interest in running for Quorum.

I agree with CmG that we can't put a cit up on the stand, in case they're a Sleeper.

[Luna]

I have just been asked a very good question, which merits a quick host announcement.

The Cylons do have code phrases today, and will be using them to gain control of the sleeper agent tonight.

Edit: Also this is my new Host colour, no one else may use this colour.

And no one else may edit their posts, of course.

[Goremancer]

Well I"m not really sure but I"ll -vote Rocshi for now. DaBarbarian. I'll keep my vote until someone persuades me to change it.

[CmG]

I have just been asked a very good question, which merits a quick host announcement.

The Cylons do have code phrases today, and will be using them to gain control of the sleeper agent tonight.

Edit: Also this is my new Host colour, no one else may use this colour.

And no one else may edit their posts, of course.

Didn't know that. so i will adapt now. Is it the same with the Traitor then Luna?

[jaczac]

I vote wejust have a lookout look me and ill be cleared tomorrow.

Its fine, unless the cylon does no action and then well know im the sleeper and rb me, unless he knows well do this and...
wifom, dammit.

ALSO

do the cylon know the sleeper agent?

[Goremancer]

oops I meant to vote him as quorom not to be lynched. I guess that would be green? -vote Rocshi

[CmG]

I vote wejust have a lookout look me and ill be cleared tomorrow.

Its fine, unless the cylon does no action and then well know im the sleeper and rb me, unless he knows well do this and...
wifom, dammit.

ALSO

do the cylon know the sleeper agent?

and then? if a citizen dies you could change into the sleeper agent and the detective would have to check you again. not cool

[Rocshi]

I'll -vote jaczacand -vote CmG for now also. I might go to bed soon anyway.

I'll lurk a little for now.

@Goremancer

For Quorum- you vote twice, cause 2 members
first is red
second is lime

[Kromos]

Why would a sleeper agent be bad to elect? They win with town, the only difference is that they are controlled to kill every night unless I'm wrong?

[Luna]

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (2) - wolfcheese, Rocshi
Rocshi (1) - Goremancer
CmG (1) - Rocshi

A reminder to keep the vote tally updated and in Cyan so it can be easily found.


Didn't know that. so i will adapt now. Is it the same with the Traitor then Luna?

No, the Traitor has not picked her target/kill words yet.


do the cylon know the sleeper agent?

No (edited, I forgot I changed it).

- Host out, from now on PM me a question if you really want an answer.

[jaczac]

yeah, im fine if i am sleeper.
i win with u guys... so im no different than any other citizens

[BorkBot]

Alright, good to know. Thanks be to ye, Moon.

And as CmG has already said, Rocshi, a sleeper mayor would be great. If they're found, they can simply be blocked for all eternity.

Randomly putting someone up there who just seems cool in your book is worse than a someone saying they're a cit.

[CmG]

Why would a sleeper agent be bad to elect? They win with town, the only difference is that they are controlled to kill every night unless I'm wrong?

If you know who it is its ok because you can block him every night and if town can't stop him from killing the mafia could do it. In their own interest. You just have to block him and heal him because the baddies would hit him so they could soften up the town roles.

Keep in mind the predators will post more per day unlike in the other M-FM games so far to get a better chance to spam their code.

[TheWaaagh]

In terms of who to vote for, I disagree about the risk the sleeper agent poses. They don't know they're a sleeper agent, and they'd be loyalist aligned anyway, so it's not like they'd use their power to not lynch a confirmed cylon or mafia member.

There is one problem with voting a citizen into power though, and that's the fact that the two people that win get their own night chat to strategize. Putting two citizens into power and having them share a night chat is... not as ideal as two town power roles. Unfortunately, we can't confirm that anyone is a power role today, so I think it might be best if we just opt to not vote for the citizens into power.

[Kromos]

Night chat could be extremely useful for two town PRs to coordinate their actions.

[BorkBot]

For now..

-vote jaczac
-vote Sumikoko

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (3) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot
Rocshi (1) - Goremancer
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot

[TheWaaagh]

Lol I explain why voting cits in is a bad idea, and then BorkBot votes a claimed cit anyway.

[jaczac]

So, I might be a quorum member, but im reluctant to vote anyone else.no claims are here yet...

[Kromos]

I'm more open to electing unknown after last game with Zane. I don't see any scum trying to get elected unless it's their secondary objective.

[CmG]

It's useful for mafia too if they get elected together with a Town PR. They could fool town every day with that bond of trust.

Problem is TheWaaagh that you are scum again lol.

You know outing now 2 PR in a game where over half of the green guys are citizens is a bad idea. You have to proof first if both are TPR or not be4 you even could use the night chat for something like that.

1 PR and 1 random is good enough. Everything else is hard to achieve.

[Escaho]

Lol I explain why voting cits in is a bad idea, and then BorkBot votes a claimed cit anyway.

To be fair, you started your post off explaining why voting them in is a good idea, lol.

However, voting in two cits is not necessarily a bad idea. As Kromos stated, the citizens, even if one is a sleeper agent, will always be working in the best interests of the town. Although a Cylon may control one, the cits will still be helpful for town. They can also discuss strategy. If we do not vote in Cits, it opens the door to, statistically, vote in non-town roles.

[Rocshi]

Well, I could say I'll give you Bananas.

CAN I BE QUORUM
YOU GET BANANAS

#lastgamelogic

[CmG]

I'm more open to electing unknown after last game with Zane. I don't see any scum trying to get elected unless it's their secondary objective.

This was more luck then anything. If it would have been randomnumbers0, zack or deathfire123 you would have all hit the bucket

[RandomNumbers0]

slleper agent want the town to win, right?
-vote jaczac
-vote Roschi

[jaczac]

I'm more open to electing unknown after last game with Zane. I don't see any scum trying to get elected unless it's their secondary objective.you raise a good point kromos.

I might be hurting my campaign, but i might be a scum claiming cit. who knows?
I might have it a secondary objective as quorum and be overly eager. so you cant be so sure.
we need claims other than a cit. i would suggest a PR and a cit to have some balance and certianity.

[Kromos]

Voting cits would also create more PRs for the town. If a PR / mayor dies we would lose two PRs so at the moment I am willing to get behind jaczac.

vote jaczac

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (5) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, Kromos, randomnumbers0
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot

[RandomNumbers0]

im cit, so im out ^^

EDIT, how many votes needed?

[BorkBot]

I think voting in one Citizen and one non-Citizen is the way to go. That way the evils can't coordinate with a Battlestar PR to act against Battlestar itself under any circumstances.

[Rocshi]

I also am a pretty good role to have as Mayor, I see potential for usefulness there.

[Goremancer]

go with the flow -vote jaczac

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (6) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, Kromos, randomnumbers0, Goremancer
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot

[Kromos]

This was more luck then anything. If it would have been randomnumbers0, zack or deathfire123 you would have all hit the bucket

No scum tried to get elected last game (except maybe me) so it wasn't luck that we got a town mayor.

[TheWaaagh]

As of right now I'm going to vote Kromos because he's been making minimalist posts (meaning he's less likely to be a Cylon) and he seems open to reason. Also because I feel bad trying to get him lynched every game.

vote Kromos

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (6) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, Kromos, randomnumbers0, Goremancer
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Kromos (1) - TheWaaagh

Got some responses before I could post so let me explain. To Escaho, my thing about Sleeper Agents wasn't an endorsement of voting them in, it was just me trying to explain that they're not the enemy this game, and I didn't want us to waste time worrying about having to hunt them down. We've all seen what can happen to a game if the mechanics are different than normal and the town doesn't know where to focus their attentions.

To CmG, I'm not asking for town roles to claim, I'm just saying that we shouldn't vote for the citizens. Right now the biggest advantage of a quorum member is the night chat, as we all saw last game the mayor's bump in votes doesn't really do much, and both members have to vote for the same person to get a bonus in this game. So yeah, having two cits discuss shit at night doesn't really do as much for us since they can't formulate any kind of real plan.

OH MY GOD LET ME POST!

[CmG]

Well if you wanna vote after who was good and who was evil last game. You will regret it probably ^^

I think if the Mafia has a framer (detection immune) he would try to get elected right now. Another point against the cits

[Kromos]

im cit, so im out ^^

EDIT, how many votes needed?

Don't edit your posts.

After everyone has voted for two people each, the two people with the highest number of votes win.

[Rocshi]

#lastgamelogic

Why is everyone jumping on the jaczac bandwagon?

[CmG]

No scum tried to get elected last game (except maybe me) so it wasn't luck that we got a town mayor.


This was a bit different. almost every town role could proof themsselves and the mechanic was new to us. Nobody really now what was the best way to deal with it. I still believe the jailor outing himself on day 1 would have been the best approval but who would have believed Dust if he would have claimed Jailor? Nobody because you all play after hunches instead of logic.

[CmG]

#lastgamelogic

Why is everyone jumping on the jaczac bandwagon?

because he seems easy to read.

[Rocshi]

Hopefully Dust doesn't kill me again...

O THAT THIS TOO TOO SOLID

*shot*

[Kromos]

#lastgamelogic

Why is everyone jumping on the jaczac bandwagon?

He claims citizen and I don't think he would lie about this. We know him to be a reasonably good player unlike you who are so far unproven. I am definitely not voting for him just because he got lucky and bussed his brother :D

[BorkBot]

If you want to avoid the Quorum elections to end in a Cylon fiasco, you may want to consider voting for people who don't normally post a million times per day.

Not only is it much easier for frequent posters to hide as Cylons, they're also more likely to get offed by the Traitor.

[RandomNumbers0]

He claims citizen and I don't think he would lie about this. We know him to be a reasonably good player unlike you who are so far unproven. I am definitely not voting for him just because he got lucky and bussed his brother :D
yeah, every damn NIGHT he bussed me

[jaczac]

because he seems easy to read.

587
EDIT: forgive me, why the hell is this so small?

[TheWaaagh]

If you want to avoid the Quorum elections to end in a Cylon fiasco, you may want to consider voting for people who don't normally post a million times per day.

Not only is it much easier for frequent posters to hide as Cylons, they're also more likely to get offed by the Traitor.

Except then the night chat becomes a ghost town.

[Kromos]

587
EDIT: forgive me, why the hell is this so small?

Seriously, stop editing posts. If you want to correct something, make another post.

[jaczac]

587
EDIT: forgive me, why the hell is this so small?
alright then why the hell is this so small?

[Rocshi]

alright then why the hell is this so small?

because WIFOM

[BorkBot]

Except then the night chat becomes a ghost town.

It's good enough if the people in it are at least known to contribute to the discussion when they do post.

That's why I voted Sumikoko in. As cryptic as she can be, she provides sufficient input without spamming.

[CmG]

It's good enough if the people in it are at least known to contribute to the discussion when they do post.

That's why I voted Sumikoko in. As cryptic as she can be, she provides sufficient input without spamming.

Stealth claims wont help you borkbot.

you are already on my scumlist the same with Thewaaagh.

[Rocshi]

I am off for now.

FOR THE QUORUM

heh. swarm. quorum. heh.

[Sumikoko]

That's why I voted Sumikoko in. As cryptic as she can be, she provides sufficient input without spamming.
Someone who understands me. -tears of happiness-
In any case, I always get accused of lurking grawr. I'm just a very... succinct person I guess.

And to answer your question, Rocshi, I am not claiming journalist. xD This whole ordeal just seems like a presidential election lol. I wouldn't mind being on the quorum, but I don't seem to be very popular judging from that last M-FM lol... Sorry about the WIFOM guys.

[BorkBot]

Well, your play as a Citizen last game wasn't very effective, although your false charged claim helped us unmask Deathfire in the end. I'm just saying that players like you are probably the safest to vote into the Quorum, because we'll notice it if you start to repeat your phrases in those few posts you make and you are committed enough to contribute to the discussion and actively take part in the WIFOM :)

[CmG]

Someone who understands me. -tears of happiness-
In any case, I always get accused of lurking grawr. I'm just a very... succinct person I guess.

And to answer your question, Rocshi, I am not claiming journalist. xD This whole ordeal just seems like a presidential election lol. I wouldn't mind being on the quorum, but I don't seem to be very popular judging from that last M-FM lol... Sorry about the WIFOM guys.

no revealing this time after half of the votes?

You are no citizen. same scum team as borkbot i bet.

[BorkBot]

Surely you would only say that if you were a mutineer, CmG. You'd better watch your tongue before Quorum Sumikoko votes you out of the mutiny business.

[BorkBot]

Because we all know that CmG has been scum on every MFM in the history of MFM, just like his buddy TheWaaagh :p

[CmG]

You know what? I would be glad to be scum in this setup, because day 1 already tells me how this thing will end. Either all evil people are awake right now and Town is still sleeping or we have some zombies here.

[Kromos]

we have some zombies here.

You noticed? :O

[BorkBot]

Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaains . :sick:

[TheWaaagh]

Because we all know that CmG has been scum on every MFM in the history of MFM, just like his buddy TheWaaagh :p

What can I say? Random.Org thinks I'm a dick apparently.

I've decided to vote BorkBot in for my other vote because it doesn't really matter anyway. I'd vote CmG but he's a little axe crazy this time around so I don't know what his deal is. I'll include the vote tally after I post this, because it's not on this page. People should include the vote tally every so often even if there hasn't been a change in the votes, just so the information is readily available.

Vote BorkBot

[TheWaaagh]

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (6) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, Kromos, randomnumbers0, Goremancer
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Kromos (1) - TheWaaagh
BorkBot (1) - TheWaaagh

[CmG]

Ok another approach!


why vote

http://img.youtube.com/vi/U7aaEnioxeY/0.jpg



if you can have

http://scifibloggers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Tricia-Helfer-Number-Six.jpg




Vote me :D

[Goremancer]

Cmg you change your avatar a lot :O

[CmG]

Cmg you change your avatar a lot :O

Goremancer you mention names a lot are you a Cylon? You mentioned Rocshi already 4 times

[Goremancer]

that was before you said about avoid using names. that was a slip up. so i'll stop using names ok? How does that sound the person that starts with the letter C and ends with capital G.

[TheWaaagh]

Wait, I've never seen the show but I know the chick in red is a Cylon. Why are you trying to get us to vote that, bud? Lol.

[Kromos]

why vote

http://scifibloggers.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Tricia-Helfer-Number-Six.jpg

if you can have

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101024005741/left4dead/images/thumb/b/b5/Boomeridle_1.png/385px-Boomeridle_1.png

[CmG]

which word would you pick as a code on day 1 if you were a sneaky bastard nigger and good at this game? Which word would you pick if you are bad at this? How would you play day 1 if you were a cylon?

Protip: you would play save mentioning the code maybe 4 times? if you get control at night 4 again. Until you lose control then u would reread the day b4 and know who your target is to kill :D

[Kromos]

Goremancer you mention names a lot are you a Cylon? You mentioned Rocshi already 4 times

=mafia buddies

[CmG]

Wait, I've never seen the show but I know the chick in red is a Cylon. Why are you trying to get us to vote that, bud? Lol.


Watch the show!

[Sumikoko]

Surely you would only say that if you were a mutineer, CmG. You'd better watch your tongue before Quorum Sumikoko votes you out of the mutiny business.
That's right! Assuming I even get to be Quorum Sumikoko lol. It has a nice ring to it. (It reminds me of Queen LDJFKLSJKLFJKDJFkoko. It was the name of a Hawaiian queen or something like that. I'm misspelling it? You're imagining things.)
Well as they say, flattery is a very useful lever indeed.
-vote BorkBot

And Kromos. I have in my possession a very lovely chainsaw. Would you like me to remove that tumor of yours according to your avatar? It is slightly grossing me out, because females tend to have different sensibilities. Or how about I just remove your head if you claim Sheriff again? -innocent smile-

Woo, CmG! Dayuuuuu- Except I'm a girl. Sorry. Another strategy plox. And by the way, you just said "if you were" 2 times. "If you" 4 times in that one post.

[Kromos]

And Kromos. I have in my possession a very lovely chainsaw. Would you like me to remove that tumor of yours according to your avatar?

Please, it's been very itchy. I tried having cemo but all my hair fell out and I got sad :(

[TheWaaagh]

Watch the show!

I don't want to spoil it for anyone that hasn't watched it and intends to, but I know the ending is fucking retarded. I already dealt with Lost's ending, so no thank you lol.

[Sumikoko]

Whoops.
-vote Borkbot

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (6) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, Kromos, randomnumbers0, Goremancer
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Kromos (1) - TheWaaagh
BorkBot (2) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko

[CmG]

Please buddy more you too especially sumikoko was town in every single M-FM so far high chance she is scum this time around. Same with Dust and Kromos.

[Kromos]

I was amnesiac lol

[TheWaaagh]

Please buddy more you too especially sumikoko was town in every single M-FM so far high chance she is scum this time around. Same with Dust and Kromos.

If you flip a coin twice and get heads it's still a 50% chance the next flip will be tails. No more, no less.

[Kromos]

BorkBot seems like a good choice to me. vote BorkBot

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (6) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, Kromos, randomnumbers0, Goremancer
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Kromos (1) - TheWaaagh
BorkBot (3) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, Kromos

[Sumikoko]

If you flip a coin twice and get heads it's still a 50% chance the next flip will be tails. No more, no less.
Having 3 sons in a row doesn't give a higher chance to either likelihood of the next child being a different gender.
This example is better because Sumi says so.
(Actually it's because you lightning clicked before I did.)

[jaczac]

-vote borkbot
He seems a good partner

[Dust]

So I was thinking, With the cylon traitor about and Cylons using words or phrases to gain night kills. We should take note of what people type. This is what I suggest to minimize the effect that the Cylon traitor could have. My suggestion is this:

Each person will choose random words or phrases to symbolize what they want to convey.
For instance I would choose these words as code for these meanings.
GrapeJuice = Witch
Rhyme = Mafia

Now each person can use as many words as they want but it will be scummy. Each person should only put in two code words or phrases to keep them from making others type those words out and dying to the Cylon Traitor. The more words you put in, the scummier you look. So don't put in a lot of codewords!

Let me look over my notes to see who I think I should vote for.

[Kromos]

-vote borkbot
He seems a good partner

Update the tally.

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (6) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, Kromos, randomnumbers0, Goremancer
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Kromos (1) - TheWaaagh
BorkBot (4) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, Kromos, jaczac

[CmG]

btw i dont claim to be that cylon chick i got a mod warning for it. =p

Oh and please don't elect me. I don't want to hang in the chat with either of those 2 Thanks!

[Dust]

I'm voting jaczac because although he may be a Cylon (there is no godfather role that I am aware of) I see no repeating words or phrases in his posts.

-Vote jaczac

I need to decide who else to vote for...

[CmG]

why even bother voting? You don't have to vote at all.

[Dust]

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (7) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, Kromos, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Dust
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Kromos (1) - TheWaaagh
BorkBot (4) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, Kromos, jaczac

Whoops forgot

[Dust]

why even bother voting? You don't have to vote at all.
Who does that benefit?

It doesn't benefit the town, that's for sure. When I was figuring out who was what role in the last M-FM I looked really hard at who the different people voted for town leader. Voting habits start from the beginning.

If you don't vote then I will have to construct a reason for you on why you didn't vote.

[CmG]

That's easy i don't trust noone. Only myself because i have no night chat easy as that. It's called insecurity. voting someone who claims citizen and could be the framer or some other scum isn't in the interest of most of the players playing this.

Like there is not much information around i have to analayse what people are offering. I see no info no plan no pro town nor against it. Why should i vote again?

[Kromos]

voting someone who claims citizen and could be the framer or some other scum isn't in the interest of most of the players playing this.


No offence meant to jaczac but I don't think he is the sort of player to try this. He seems very easy to read and I think we can be pretty sure he is town.

[Dust]

Did you see my plan?

It makes it harder for two killing roles to kill us. One does it by having us say words or phrases that would be common. Solution = Make each person come up with random names for each thing we could talk about.

The other does it by repeating words or phrases. Solution = Make it harder for them to abuse the random word by watching how much that player uses the random word that he brought to the rest of the town.

It's not foolproof but it lowers the risk of any one of us dying to the Cylon Traitor and increases our chances of finding Cylons.

For the mafia, use regular scum hunting techniques. Not much is different for them in this set up.

[CmG]

sure the problem is. the cylons are anti town and anti mafia. so all plans vs them also benefit mafia. doesn't have to make you town though. Names aren't the only thing who is common. even the word common is common. scum, mafia, town, cylon. idiot even the word plan. It's kinda retarded.

[TheWaaagh]

That's easy i don't trust noone. Only myself because i have no night chat easy as that. It's called insecurity. voting someone who claims citizen and could be the framer or some other scum isn't in the interest of most of the players playing this.

Like there is not much information around i have to analayse what people are offering. I see no info no plan no pro town nor against it. Why should i vote again?

Well let's think about it:

If two mafia get put in a night chat together, they'll do the same thing they've always done = Neither good nor bad.

If two non-pr townies get put in a night chat together, they'll talk but they'll have no way of actually proving they're citizens, and they'll have nothing to do with their plans, it's like a less effective mason = Neither good nor bad

If two pr townies get put in a night chat together, they'll be able to formulate plans at night and share knowledge with one another without doing it in front of every one else = Good

If a neutral gets put in with a mafia or townie, I don't really see how it could have a huge affect on the game = Neither good nor bad

If a mafia pretends to be a town pr and gets in with another town pr, well he'd have to feed him some kind of information to keep his ruse alive, and it also means the town pr would be kept alive by the mafia so they could fish information out of it. So this one could actually go either way: the pr could out the guy as maf in the day, or the maf could kill the pr at night and not gain any more information = Could go either way

The only bad situation I could think of is if we elect both Cylons, and then they're allowed to form the alliance Luna tried to prevent by dismantling their original night chat. But the odds of us electing both Cylons is so low that there's really no reason to vote.

And yeah, I repeated a lot of words here for structure reasons, so come at me if you must.

[CmG]

If a mafia pretends to be a town pr and gets in with another town pr, well he'd have to feed him some kind of information to keep his ruse alive, and it also means the town pr would be kept alive by the mafia so they could fish information out of it. So this one could actually go either way: the pr could out the guy as maf in the day, or the maf could kill the pr at night and not gain any more information = Could go either way

you forgot that the Mafia member has 3 guys in the background giving him bonus information to manipulate the possible Town PR on the other hand. This will render the PR completely useless for town and mafia will get an ally. Awesome idea! LETS DO THIS!

[Dust]

sure the problem is. the cylons are anti town and anti mafia. so all plans vs them also benefit mafia. doesn't have to make you town though. Names aren't the only thing who is common. even the word common is common. scum, mafia, town, cylon. idiot even the word plan. It's kinda retarded.
Your kinda missing the point. There is no way that we can have a code word for all the common words that we might use. But it helps the rest of our chances if we don't need to say all those words that might slowly kill us.

[CmG]

les sposts more lurking and you are free to go. But luna said the traitor hasn't had a chance to choose his word for Day 1 so yeah. This game will be uber lurky :)

[TheWaaagh]

you forgot that the Mafia member has 3 guys in the background giving him bonus information to manipulate the possible Town PR on the other hand. This will render the PR completely useless for town and mafia will get an ally. Awesome idea! LETS DO THIS!

That also means they'd be keeping the pr alive. There's a reason they're called POWER ROLES. As long as they're not a jackass and blindly follow everything the other guy says, they'll still be able to see through the bullshit and effectively have a night kill immunity from the maf at least.

[Kromos]

If a jester or executioner is elected it would have an effect as the jester could easily make himself look suspicious (by claiming a PR and feeding false info to your partner you would be found out eventually) and the executioner would benefit from the inherent trust he gains from sharing a night chat.

Putting both mafia together won't matter in terms of the night chat but they will still have double votes during the day as they will always agree with each other. The town will also think that it is unlikely that we elected 2 mafias so the other one could be left alone.

[Dust]

My plan would be effective on day 2, when the Cylon Traitor has chosen his/her words. Now if the Cylon Traitor stays on the surefire track then the words chosen would be words that would either be coded (for someone else to code) or the code words themselves. If we limit the number of words to be coded to 2 per person then the most words the Cylon Traitor could get on someone is 4. 4 is not enough for a kill so the Cylon Traitor would have to be lucky to get a kill if we follow my plan.

[CmG]

That also means they'd be keeping the pr alive. There's a reason they're called POWER ROLES. As long as they're not a jackass and blindly follow everything the other guy says, they'll still be able to see through the bullshit and effectively have a night kill immunity from the maf at least.

So town loses a PR 1 Day later and 2 votes and the mafia guy has still bonus votes? Legit!

[CmG]

My plan would be effective on day 2, when the Cylon Traitor has chosen his/her words. Now if the Cylon Traitor stays on the surefire track then the words chosen would be words that would either be coded (for someone else to code) or the code words themselves. If we limit the number of words to be coded to 2 per person then the most words the Cylon Traitor could get on someone is 4. 4 is not enough for a kill so the Cylon Traitor would have to be lucky to get a kill if we follow my plan.

This is 1 kill and the traitor will change into the Powerrole even more into revealing today a PR getting elected and play the Lurkerstyle.

[Dust]

Wait Wait Wait.

I just got an idea. Let me check the FAQ on M-FM3

[TheWaaagh]

This is 1 kill and the traitor will change into the Powerrole even more into revealing today a PR getting elected and play the Lurkerstyle.

Actually you bring up a good point, the Traitor takes over the win condition of the power role they kill, so it's actually not that detrimental.

[Dust]

Oh lol. I've been reading the Cylon traitor wrong this whole time. I didn't realize that there's a target and not just general "I'm gonna scare everyone into speaking in code so that they don't die" type of strategy. You may use my plan if you think that you might be targeted because it gives you the best chance of survival. If you trust your luck, then you may dismiss my plan.

[TheWaaagh]

So town loses a PR 1 Day later and 2 votes and the mafia guy has still bonus votes? Legit!

Answer me this CmG, did the bonus votes last game actually do anything? I have yet to see votes split between two people. Every game the people that get lynched are lynched by the entire town anyway, it has yet to come down to 1 or 2 votes.

[CmG]

Yeah whatever i am off. Everybody voting on Jaczac has to be labeled scum. Just check on the votes last game on Zane and how much scum there was voting for him. kkthxbye

[Kromos]

Oh lol. I've been reading the Cylon traitor wrong this whole time. I didn't realize that there's a target and not just general "I'm gonna scare everyone into speaking in code so that they don't die" type of strategy. You may use my plan if you think that you might be targeted because it gives you the best chance of survival. If you trust your luck, then you may dismiss my plan.

I just plan on using different words that mean the same thing each day, shouldn't be much of a problem unless Boomer is very good guess :p

[Dust]

Actually you bring up a good point, the Traitor takes over the win condition of the power role they kill, so it's actually not that detrimental.
I was thinking that and I was going to suggest that one town PR (not one that would make the Cylon Traitor suicide) to say a bunch of words just to get the Traitor onto our side AND have some confirmed evidence (depending on that PR). But I was reading the rolecard wrong and so it won't work as expected. (It's not general enough)

[CmG]

Answer me this CmG, did the bonus votes last game actually do anything? I have yet to see votes split between two people. Every game the people that get lynched are lynched by the entire town anyway, it has yet to come down to 1 or 2 votes.

this is not last game and this game has less Power Roles. M- FM 2 was won through role claim not through lynch votes. This wont be the case in this game. If numbers dwindle on the town side you will be glad for every extra vote you have.

just my 2 cents. I just don't vote Dust for this post because i am too scared he is scum and the rest of the candidates don't even get a bit information out just claim citizens and wanted to be elected lal.

go home pls!

[TheWaaagh]

I was thinking that and I was going to suggest that one town PR (not one that would make the Cylon Traitor suicide) to say a bunch of words just to get the Traitor onto our side AND have some confirmed evidence (depending on that PR). But I was reading the rolecard wrong and so it won't work as expected. (It's not general enough)

Well it's a shame, because I did have an idea for the Jailor. Where if we had another situation like last game where Luna outted you, we could have the jailor essentially sacrifice his life by announcing the day chat what seven words he'd use the next day, and then the anonymous traitor could take over his role and help town win.

I think this idea could still be good depending on what happens to the town this game, and what kind of important roles are out there that might get found out during the course of the game and need to get that anonymity back. At this point, I'm thinking of the Traitor as a potential ally more than an enemy to fear.

[TheWaaagh]

*It's a shame there isn't one. I realized that sentence kind of sounds like gibberish.

[Kromos]

Stop lurking Escaho and wolfcheese. If you want to lurk put invisible mode on :)

[Dust]

I'm off to get some sleep. G'night.

[CaptainUsopp]

So, the game finally started, eh? I never thought we would be voting people to make then some sort of Mayors.

But if you ask me, then yes, I want to be elected in the Quorum. I am more important than your "average" Citizen.

Vote for CaptainUsopp to be selected! Especially anime and One Piece fans!

[wolfcheese]

Sorry Kromos, it took forever for me to catch up on the thread. As usual dust has come up with some interesting plans that we could use.

I had forgotten that the framer appears as cit, that's kind of scary. Still, I'm keeping my votes where they are. I don't feel like shuffling them around all day.

[CaptainUsopp]

Looks like nominated person can also vote for quorum... can you accept my suggestion then?

Please elect me in the Quorum together with jaczac! If you support me with your votes then I'll give my vote to jaczac too.

[Kromos]

I am more important than your "average" Citizen.


So your a sleeper agent?

[wolfcheese]

Speaking of sleeper agents....yawn...im gonna tuck in. Bonsoir.

[CaptainUsopp]

No, I'm telling you that I am not the citizen. I have an important role. I will reveal my role to you once I will be elected.

[TheWaaagh]

So your a sleeper agent?

The sleeper agent doesn't know that they're a sleeper agent, only that they're a citizen.

[CaptainUsopp]

Also, it would be better for power roles to be elected instead of citizens, since they can speak with each other at night and share information.

[Kromos]

I will reveal my role to you once I will be elected.

Why would you reveal your role once you've been elected? You should either reveal it now or until you have to. There would be no point keeping your role secret atm if you plan to reveal it anyway as soon as you are elected.

[Kromos]

The sleeper agent doesn't know that they're a sleeper agent, only that they're a citizen.

I know but he was implying he was a citizen, just more important than the 'average' one = sleeper agent.

[CaptainUsopp]

Because if I would reveal it now, the Mafia would kill me later in first night. Until then, they only have to rely on a pure guess to find out if I am really the power role or not.

[Escaho]

Stop lurking Escaho and wolfcheese. If you want to lurk put invisible mode on :)

I wouldn't call it lurking, per se. I have this window open while playing SC2. When I get free time (in lobbies), I'll alt-tab and read over new posts.

We have 24 hours from Luna's original post, correct? I'll give my votes tomorrow morning when I awake. I just hope jaczac's Citizen claim is true, as a blunder on the first vote could be detrimental to the end game (Thankfully, Zane's town leader elect went off without a hitch in the last game. Hopefully we can recreate that here).

[Kromos]

Because if I would reveal it now, the Mafia would kill me later in first night. Until then, they only have to rely on a pure guess to find out if I am really the power role or not.

Yeah, I get that. I thought you were saying you would reveal today but only after you were elected.

[CaptainUsopp]

I never said I would reveal my role today. I said that I will reveal it the next day after being elected.

[Kromos]

I will reveal my role to you once I will be elected.

Yeah, I misunderstood this to mean you would reveal your role at the end of the day once you were sure you were getting elected.

[CaptainUsopp]

Also, I read everything again, and decided it would be better to elect CmG since he did not claimed to be a citizen. So, my first vote goes to CmG.

-vote CmG

[Kromos]

From M-FM III:


As of right now I'm going to vote Kromos because he's been making minimalist posts (meaning he's less likely to be a Cylon) and he seems open to reason. Also because I feel bad trying to get him lynched every game.

vote Kromos


From M-FM II:


I don't know, I really want to vote Guardian just to see him threaten us with suicide the more the job gets to him, but I'm digging Kromos as town leader.

I swear to god though Kromos, if you're not the sheriff, and this is another crazy ass gambit to fool us all from knowing you're really the detective or something... well, I got nothing. But that'd be really annoying. :)

Election Vote Kromos


Thanks for your continuing support.

[Kromos]

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (7) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, Kromos, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Dust
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Kromos (1) - TheWaaagh
BorkBot (4) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, Kromos, jaczac

[TheWaaagh]

Thanks for your continuing support.

I told you I play the same every game.

[Kromos]

I told you I play the same every game.

You've also only been mafia.

[Mopin]

We'll seeing as these people look to be good and everyone else is voting for them.

Vote jaczac
Vote Borkbot

First forum mafia game as well :)

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (8 ) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, Kromos, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Dust, Mopin
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Kromos (1) - TheWaaagh
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, Kromos, jaczac, Mopin

[Kromos]

We'll seeing as these people look to be good and everyone else is voting for them.


That's not much of a reason. You just seem to be copying my votes.

Why do you want to vote jaczac and BorkBot?
Why do you think they are town?
What two role types do you want to see elected?
What are your feelings on the other candidates?
Why didn't you vote for them instead?

[Zack]

heh, election day once more. Choosing a power role seems like the way to go, no reason for me to repeat arguements that have already been posted.

CaptainUsopp claims being a power role... Now, can we believe this claim or not? Its a gamble unless he actually claims a specific role, which he said he won't do today.

I'd like to vote Sumi, but who knows what she is. Last game I was neutral so I didn't care, heh

Its likely that alot of scum are wagoning the vote on jaczac, people said he is easy to read - but the other meaning of this is that he is also easy to manipulate. No offense jaczac :)

You can't give the position of mayor, or Quorum is this case, to just anyone... Last M-FM serves as no example to the importance of the election, Zane did not make a diffrence because the game never reached the point where his extra votes would make that diffrence.

Has BorkBot claimed anything? I saw no claim from him, likewise from CmG. I'd like some reassurance from candidates if they want my vote.

At the same time I can also nominate myself to the job, though I understand that trusting me is difficult, heh

[Kromos]

BorkBot never claimed a role and I don't think he even said he wanted to be elected. A lot of us just found him trustworthy by his posts. I agree that scum are definitely wagoning jaczac but how many of them are, I don't know.

In M-FM II we had scum voting for three different people with none of the mafia voting on the same person. If you take away the scum votes then the election would have been a tie between Zane and BorkBot, maybe something similar is happening here with the majority of scum votes on jaczac and the rest spread out in random directions to not seem suspicious. The difference in this game is the double vote which also needs to be taken into account. Scum might have a large presence on one person but then their second vote could be a seemingly random choice.

Sumi (2): Zack, Zane
Kromos (2): Nick, Goremancer
Dust (2): wolfcheese, Rocshi
Zane (6): CmG, Dust, Deathfire123, BBmolla, Jaczac, RandomNumbers0
BorkBot (4): Kromos, Luna, McPwnage, Dimwit
McPwnage (3): Guardian, TheWaaagh, BorkBot
Zack (1): Sumikoko

Red = Mafia
Orange = Killing Neutrals
Pink = Executioner
Cyan = Amnesiac

[Mopin]

Like I said they appear to be town, and while I can't really know whether this is the case or not, most other people are voting them. Other than that I'm not so bothered about what roles they are as long as they're with town.

[Kromos]

Like I said they appear to be town, and while I can't really know whether this is the case or not, most other people are voting them. Other than that I'm not so bothered
about what roles they are as long as they're with town.

Don't just go with everyone else. It is likely that scum will all pile up on one person. You need to make your own decisions based on what other people have said and your own role.

If your not bothered about their roles as long as they're town then wouldn't you be voting claimed citizens? Claimed citizens (like jaczac) have the highest chance of being town while unclaimed people like BorkBot could be anything. I believe the best possible situation would be to elect 2 town PRs and will be willing to take a risk in order to get that. You however seem to want to vote people with the highest chance of being town regardless of how helpful their role could be. In that case you voting BorkBot doesn't make sense.

[CaptainUsopp]

I am willing to take any risks if this helps town. Nominate me, and you will never be dissapointed ^^

[Kromos]

I would like all the candidates for the Quorum to give a speech on why we should vote for them. You do not need to claim your role but you should say:

Why you wanted to be a member of the Quorun in the first place.

Why you are the best candidate for the job.

What skills do you have that the other candidates don't (how good you are at FM not role abilities).

What you plan to do once elected (you don't need to give us loads of details, just an outline of how you will scum hunt and use your votes for the good of the town).

Anything else that might convince us to vote for you.

Good luck and may the best man win :D

[Goremancer]

Not saying u are mafia or cylon kromos, but you seem to be directing the traffic of the town now. When I see that happening I get a little worried

[Dust]

After a lot of thought, I'm going to go for quorum member.

Why you wanted to be a member of the Quorun in the first place.
Because its almost like a jailor. Last couple of M-FMs I got used to having one-on-one talks with people.

Why you are the best candidate for the job.
I never said that I'm the best for the job, Its very possible that another player has a more useful role than I do.

What skills do you have that the other candidates don't (how good you are at FM not role abilities).
I have consistently found scum in other M-FMs and I think that having someone to talk to at night who I can trust could help me get my ideas written out where scum can't see.

What you plan to do once elected (you don't need to give us loads of details, just an outline of how you will scum hunt and use your votes for the good of the town).
I plan to use my regular scum hunting tools. I will also discuss with my fellow quorum member who to trust and who to distrust and what the best plan of action would be. I will also make sure that my fellow quorum member is not scum through some tests that I plan on using if elected.

Anything else that might convince us to vote for you.
MVP, anyone?

[jaczac]

arg i had a nice speech all ready and chrome deecided suicide...

[jaczac]

Oh, and whoevers lurking will be labeled as scum..
I SEE U THREE

[BorkBot]

Just caught up sifting through all posts. I hadn't expected so much support in electing me for the Quorum as I wasn't actually trying.

Nonetheless, the loyal Battlestar crew wouldn't regret electing me if they knew my identity, I'm sure.

Unfortunately I have to go out to buy Christmas presents now, so I'll answer the questionnaire later.

[Kromos]

Not saying u are mafia or cylon kromos, but you seem to be directing the traffic of the town now. When I see that happening I get a little worried

I was just making a suggestion which I think is very reasonable and should help us in figuring out the motives of the candidates and to make an informed choice on who to vote. It is better to contribute then to lurk.

[Kromos]

Ofc Dust would be the perfect candidate for the Quorom. He is one of the best (if not the best) players in the game and his skills as a jailor would be a perfect fit for the Quorom night chat.

This is what worries me. If we elect Dust and he turns out to be scum we would be in a lot of trouble. Not only is Dust great at hiding his identity and analysing posts, he also has almost everybody in his pocket. I can imagine his partner will be smitten by him, will trust him completely and do whatever tactics Dust suggests. This would be disastrous as Dust can so easily control the town. There are many people like Zane (Dust's bitch :p) who seem to follow Dust no matter what. In Dust we trust, it seems.

So Dust would be the biggest risk we could take. If town he is our most valuable asset, if scum he is our worst enemy. In most setups it can be assumed that scum wouldn't try to be elected however the absence of an investigator or sheriff could embolden scum (mafia particularly) to try get elected. If anyone could pull of being scum and the mayor it would be Dust.

Personally I think it would be worth the risk but we would need to watch Dust very closely after he is elected. I would also like to hear from the other candidates before I vote.

unvote jaczac
unvote BorkBot

[Zack]

Why you wanted to be a member of the Quorun in the first place.
Because I seek to dominate the earth! What? Its a valid reason. Ok fine, because the supreme cabbage spoke to me in a dream and told me I must lead the survivors of galactica!

Why you are the best candidate for the job.
Why, I was chosen by the supreme cabbage, what better reason is there than that? heh

What skills do you have that the other candidates don't.
I have evil plans for the enemies of galactica. Execution methods will be cruel. Oh, and when I actually try I can find them evil people, just most of the time in FMs I am one of those evil people, heh.
I mean, look at FM7, I found the cult leader and Sephiroth, just that I was mafia so I kept my mouth shut.

What you plan to do once elected
Take on the world! Rather, the scum on galactica. But after that, THE WORLD. I mean, Earth, that we will find... I R GOOD AT SCUMHUNT, Y U NO BELIEVE ME?

Anything else that might convince us to vote for you.
Aren't I cuuutte? :3
That might actually have the opposite effect. Yes I am a guy, heh
Erm, the supreme cabbage has spoken! You want to vote for me~ You want to vote for me~ You want to vote for me~
Did it work?

[Kromos]

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (7) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Dust, Mopin
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Kromos (1) - TheWaaagh
BorkBot (4) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, jaczac, Mopin

[Kromos]

If you want my vote Zack you should go back and answer those questions properly :)

It seems like you struggled to come up with a decent answer so just filled it with trolling. If you have no motive for becoming leader then why would we vote you? If you do not feel you can say your real motive then it means your motive is scummy.

[Escaho]

I, too, have to head out Christmas shopping, so I'll drop off my votes before I head out. Based on observations, I am slightly wary of BorkBot's easy acceptance, but think he might be working for the good of the crew.

-vote jaczac
-vote BorkBot

[Zack]

After a lot of thought, I'm going to go for quorum member.

Why you wanted to be a member of the Quorun in the first place.
Because its almost like a jailor. Last couple of M-FMs I got used to having one-on-one talks with people.

Why you are the best candidate for the job.
I never said that I'm the best for the job, Its very possible that another player has a more useful role than I do.

What skills do you have that the other candidates don't (how good you are at FM not role abilities).
I have consistently found scum in other M-FMs and I think that having someone to talk to at night who I can trust could help me get my ideas written out where scum can't see.

What you plan to do once elected (you don't need to give us loads of details, just an outline of how you will scum hunt and use your votes for the good of the town).
I plan to use my regular scum hunting tools. I will also discuss with my fellow quorum member who to trust and who to distrust and what the best plan of action would be. I will also make sure that my fellow quorum member is not scum through some tests that I plan on using if elected.

Anything else that might convince us to vote for you.
MVP, anyone?

Since this is politics, allow me to discredit my opponent here :3

*ahem*

Dust has been quite successful in previous 2 M-FM games, however the role that he recieved was the Jailor. A powerfull role, one that some people even consider overpowered. Now, the original design of the jailor is fine, but on FM a jailor who can jail on days that had lynches or even execute after a lynch like in Fragos's setup is way too strong. It is no wonder the scum lost those 2 games. Moreover he used an underhanded method to find out the Godfather was mafia in the first M-FM, he had no confirmation that he was executing scum until he used the activity on the sub-forum accounts to know that he was holding a mafia in his cell. Proof of that is M-FM 2, where he executed the Veteran without any proof or logic behind that action.

Can we really trust Dust just because he got lucky? Think it over won't you, you don't want to be a puppet, heh

His daytime scumhunting skills are good, but so are mine and others, such as BorkBot for example. I don't see any particular reason why Dust makes a better choice.

heh, this is nothing personal Dust, you know? ;)


@Kromos, there is no "proper" answer to these questions. Dust also did not provide good reasons. This is politics, I will use any method to gain popularity, if making people laugh works then I will use it. It worked for Zane.

[Zack]

Also obviously my motive is to lead the town to victory. Can you not see that in my words?

[TheWaaagh]

Now, the original design of the jailor is fine, but on FM a jailor who can jail on days that had lynches or even execute after a lynch like in Fragos's setup is way too strong. It is no wonder the scum lost those 2 games.

Can I just say that I love you?

unvote Kromos
vote Zack

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (7) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Dust, Mopin
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
BorkBot (4) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, jaczac, Mopin
Zack (1) - TheWaaagh

[Kromos]

@Kromos, there is no "proper" answer to these questions. Dust also did not provide good reasons. This is politics, I will use any method to gain popularity, if making people laugh works then I will use it. It worked for Zane.

Ok, fair enough. You won't win me over but it might work for some people :)

@Escaho

Update the tally or be violently modraped by Luna.

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (8 ) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Dust, Mopin, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Kromos (1) - TheWaaagh
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, jaczac, Mopin, Escaho

[Kromos]

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (8 ) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Dust, Mopin, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Zack (1) - TheWaaagh
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, jaczac, Mopin, Escaho

fixed.

[Kromos]

Also obviously my motive is to lead the town to victory. Can you not see that in my words?

By motive I meant why did you specifically put yourself forward instead of letting others be elected.

[Zack]

Because I believe I can lead the town perhaps? I answered this question. Now go ahead and ask the other cadidates the same question.

[Dust]

Since this is politics, allow me to discredit my opponent here :3

*ahem*

Dust has been quite successful in previous 2 M-FM games, however the role that he recieved was the Jailor. A powerfull role, one that some people even consider overpowered. Now, the original design of the jailor is fine, but on FM a jailor who can jail on days that had lynches or even execute after a lynch like in Fragos's setup is way too strong. It is no wonder the scum lost those 2 games. Moreover he used an underhanded method to find out the Godfather was mafia in the first M-FM, he had no confirmation that he was executing scum until he used the activity on the sub-forum accounts to know that he was holding a mafia in his cell. Proof of that is M-FM 2, where he executed the Veteran without any proof or logic behind that action.

Can we really trust Dust just because he got lucky? Think it over won't you, you don't want to be a puppet, heh

His daytime scumhunting skills are good, but so are mine and others, such as BorkBot for example. I don't see any particular reason why Dust makes a better choice.

heh, this is nothing personal Dust, you know? ;)


@Kromos, there is no "proper" answer to these questions. Dust also did not provide good reasons. This is politics, I will use any method to gain popularity, if making people laugh works then I will use it. It worked for Zane.
Allow me to respond to your comments.
To the observation that the previous two M-FMs I have been an overpowered role:
The first M-FM, yes, it was overpowered but the fact of the matter is that I used that role to its fullest potential. I think that with this M-FM I can use my role to the fullest potential as well, if I am elected.
On the second M-FM, I was trusting my readings on Rocshi (the veteran's name fyi) and I honestly believed he was scum. My jailing of Luna and letting her go may not have been the best choice, but because of her last will and jaczac's brilliant bus driver skills, we were able to turn the game around.

Also, Rocshi had PM'd me after I had revealed myself as jailor that it was a good thing that he had died because he thought that he might have killed more town than scum.

To the observation that electing me is being a "puppet":
If I am elected, you may choose to not go along with what I decide along with the other quorum member.
I am not asking for obedience, I am asking that my scum hunting skills be given more weight.

To the observation that my daytime scum hunting skills are comparable to Zack and BorkBot:
I do not say that I should be the only one to be on the quorum. I ask that either Zack or BorkBot also be elected. Discussion between any of us would benefit all of us. Both quorum members would be able to talk things out, explain ideas and gain more headway than a single scum hunter might.

It is my personal opinion that Zack is pro town for questioning me in-depth about my running for quorum.

Allow me to correct my vote from someone who I don't doubt is town to someone who I think would make a great partner.

-Unvote jaczac
-vote Zack

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (7) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Mopin, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Zack (1) - TheWaaagh, Dust
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, jaczac, Mopin, Escaho

[Dust]

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (7) - wolfcheese, Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Mopin, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Zack (2) - TheWaaagh, Dust
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, jaczac, Mopin, Escaho

Fixed the number for Zack's votes (votes for Zack)

[Dust]

Zack, don't mind me for not seeing you as an opponent. I see you as a potential quorum partner.

[wolfcheese]

Good morning everyone. :)

-unvote jaczac
-vote Zack

Because I liked his speech. *nod*

Dust (1) - wolfcheese
jaczac (6) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Mopin, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Zack (3) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, jaczac, Mopin, Escaho

[Kromos]

Even though you gave a dubious speech, Zack, you seem like town to me. I think you two would would be great team.

vote Dust
vote Zack

I would still like to hear speeches (or retractions if they no longer want to become a member of the Quorum) from:

BorkBot
CaptionUsopp
jaczac (You said you had one before you lost it?)
Rocshi
and anyone else I have missed out or who wants to put themselves forward.

Dust (2) - wolfcheese, Kromos
jaczac (6) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Mopin, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Zack (4) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, jaczac, Mopin, Escaho

[CaptainUsopp]

Looks like it's my time to shine. So, I will be the next who will give you some answers!

Why you wanted to be a member of the Quorun in the first place.
Because I am the important role for town, and I want to eliminate Cylons and Mafia. Isn't that reason good enough? As time will come by, I will be able to receive some information, and promptly share that information with town at day, and with second Quorum member at night (assuming that he is town frist).

Why you are the best candidate for the job.
Well, I am Captain Usopp, after all! I have natural leadership talents, and people are often stand in a while and listen to my words.

What skills do you have that the other candidates don't.
My skills are mostly related to my SC2 Mafia play. I have good intuition, than can allow me to separate scum roles from town roles. I rarely made any mistakes when playing as Jailor or Vigilante.

What you plan to do once elected
Of course I will start scumhunting! I will check who voted for who, and based on the voting resuts, chat logs, and night-related information. And then I will point a finger to a certain person and say: "That guy is scum!"

Anything else that might convince us to vote for you.
Like I said once, I am One Piece fan. If you like to watch anime shows every Sunday, come and join my club!

[Kromos]

I should change the first point to:

Why you wanted to be a member of the Quorum instead of leaving it to other people.

We know that you want to eliminate scum but say why you personally want to be elected. Dust's answer was the sort of thing I was looking for. I think you would be a decent candidate, Captain, but I would rather go with Dust and Zane as they are more experienced.

[Kromos]

I meant Zack lol

[Mopin]

Dust does seem quite suspicious to me, so I think I'll go ahead and vote for Zack instead. jaczac doesn't really seem to know what he is doing so will remove that vote :)

Unvote jaczac
Vote Zack

Dust (2) - wolfcheese, Kromos
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Zack (5) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, jaczac, Mopin, Escaho

[jaczac]

Why you wanted to be a member of the Quorun in the first place.
Because i am a Citizen
Why you are the best candidate for the job.
I have some good intuition and i can co ordinate better because im a citizen and have no role, i can think about everything not just my info.

What skills do you have that the other candidates don't.
I have experience, more than most. (cant say more than zack...)

What you plan to do once elected
I will scumhunt and co ordinate PRs to the best of our abilities to wipe out the cylons and mutineers.

Anything else that might convince us to vote for you.
Mvp anyone?


P.S. mangas better....

[CaptainUsopp]

Well, I want to be noticed by people after all. I'm new here, and if I want to show you what I am capable of, then I will need to be open to everyone.

And yes, I read manga too!

[jaczac]

Dust does seem quite suspicious to me, so I think I'll go ahead and vote for Zack instead. jaczac doesn't really seem to know what he is doing so will remove that vote :)

Unvote jaczac
Vote Zack

Dust (2) - wolfcheese, Kromos
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Zack (5) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, jaczac, Mopin, Escaho
And you do know what youre doing?
I have more experince than most here. 5 games, not counting #4

[Dust]

And you do know what youre doing?
I have more experince than most here. 5 games, not counting #4
Number of games shouldn't really be counted. Input to games should be counted. If there were two people, one that lurked in 3 games and one that gave good analysis in 1 game, I will value the one-time player more than the lurker.

I'm not saying that you are inexperienced. I'm saying that you're not looking at the right data for your conclusion.

[jaczac]

Number of games shouldn't really be counted. Input to games should be counted. If there were two people, one that lurked in 3 games and one that gave good analysis in 1 game, I will value the one-time player more than the lurker.

I'm not saying that you are inexperienced. I'm saying that you're not looking at the right data for your conclusion.
What should i be looking at then?
Im flexible.

[Dust]

What should i be looking at then?
Im flexible.
In my previous post I mentioned input. Quality of input should be what is counted.

[Zack]

Well, i'l take that as a sign of good faith. I do hope you are town as well this time Dust, heh

vote Dust

BorkBot is also a worthy candidate, but i'd like to see him posting a reply to candidate questions before I use my second vote. And if Sumi does so then I will consider voting her as well :3

[divemaster127]

-vote zack
-vote Borkbot

When we get two Quorum members selected Cops should check them.

[CaptainUsopp]

Was I too late to join Day 1 discussion?

[jaczac]

In my previous post I mentioned input. Quality of input should be what is counted.
ok, i admit i lurked my first two, then 6 was a shitstorm. But im getting better and this would be a chance to prove myself. Im good at co ordination and i can anlyze now.

[jaczac]

-unvote borkbot.

Im gonna think.

[jaczac]

Dust (2) - wolfcheese, Kromos
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Zack (5) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster,
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho
also, please dont just jump on a wagon.

[wolfcheese]

You missed zack's vote.

Dust (3) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Zack (5) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster,
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho

[Zane]

-vote Dust-vote Sumikoko

Dust (4) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot
Zack (5) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster,
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho
Sumikoko (1) - Zane

[wolfcheese]

I don't think I can handle two sumi's.

Dust (4) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (1) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (5) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster,
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho

[wolfcheese]

God damnit.

Dust (4) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (2) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (5) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster,
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho

THERE.

[Dust]

Dust (4) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (2) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (6) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster,
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho
Fixed Zack's number (again). 6 people = 5 votes?

[Dust]

Did I start the Zack wagon? Deja vu, anyone?

[CmG]

I highly suggest not getting Zack and Dust on the Quorum one is enough. Borkbot doesn't wanted to be elected on the podest so unvote him.

Zack n Dust look like on the same Team to me thats ok. Problem is if that team is mafia...

[Dust]

I highly suggest not getting Zack and Dust on the Quorum one is enough. Borkbot doesn't wanted to be elected on the podest so unvote him.

Zack n Dust look like on the same Team to me thats ok. Problem is if that team is mafia...
Who do you suggest to become a quorum member alongside Zack or me?

[Escaho]

I am concerned about the sudden shift of votes. Jaczac claimed Citizen, which is a role that cannot be directly influenced (even if he is sleeper, he would still side with town). Meanwhile, to my knowledge, neither Dust nor Zack have claimed anything at all, simply gaining votes off of previous games (which, IMO, means try should not be given MORE power if they are such great analyzers).

Someone also stated (Kromos? Sorry, on my phone at the food court) that while Dust would be a great Quorum candidate if he is town, he would be a force to be reckoned with if Mutineer/Cylon. Therefore, I believe votes should be split between two candidates who are not openly supporting each other for fear of collusion.

[CmG]

someone who isn't easy to manipulate. I see the Quorum more then a threat then anything because chances are higher for the scum getting elected. 4 of them already know who their allies are. 2 don't care much about it and the other 2 neutrals who knows? The traitor just plays his own game same with the 2 code spammer.

Like most people suggested 2 PR would be the most beneficial for Town. But the less risky variant is 1 PR and 1 random/citizen who is resistent to manipulation and thinks for himself.

2 revealed T PR means 1 Quorum member less next Day.

I don't trust you both without a role claim. Especially if you 2 are really mafia you would have the extra votes could buddy buddy in broad daylight and nobody would realize it. LOL NO WAY!

[Escaho]

Who do you suggest to become a quorum member alongside Zack or me?

I would suggest BorkBot or jaczac. I would not mind putting Zack or you, but both of you on there (and how hard both of you are campaigning for this, really worries me.

[CmG]

I would suggest BorkBot or jaczac. I would not mind putting Zack or you, but both of you on there (and how hard both of you are campaigning for this, really worries me.


electing borkbot makes no sense too. HE DOESN'T EVEN WANT THIS ROLE. Because if you check him up at night you see he is mafia or some other role who is destined to die sooner or later.

[Dust]

CmG, could you list people who YOU think are hard to manipulate. If Zack or I put either of our lists down you might think that Zack or I might be trying to manipulate them by saying they're hard to manipulate. (Flattery).

I think that someone else who ISN'T running should put a list together.

[BorkBot]

Now that those presents have been secreted away in my hidden stash,
I have returned to kick some mutineer ass and chew battlegum.
And I'm all out of battlegum.

I would've kicked the Cylons in that statement as well, but I left them out because it would ruin the pom.

Anyway, here we go:

Why you wanted to be a member of the Quorun in the first place.
I didn't. But upon further consideration I'd like to give it a wing, since I seem to be getting some votes of confidence and I know that I could be of service if I were to be placed in the high seat.

Why you are the best candidate for the job.
I don't know if I'm the best candidate for the job. Only time will tell if I can succeed, and then only if I am given the chance to prove it. The only promise I can make is that I have the best interests of the crew at heart and I will do all in my power to ensure that the good and loyal men and women of Battlestar Galactica may once again live at ease and that the corrupted forces that threaten life as we know it are unmasked and removed from this vessel.

What skills do you have that the other candidates don't (how good you are at FM not role abilities).
I take my duties quite seriously and do my best to read the lines as well as whatever might be between them. I have the time and dedication required to give a good amount of input into the discussion. I don't lurk and I allow people to read me as well. My early reads in the last MFM were inaccurate, but they helped some important people to stay safe for a while, so it worked out. I'm confident though that I have learned from past experiences and that I'll be better able to figure out who the bad guys are, if I'm given the time detect slip-ups.

What you plan to do once elected (you don't need to give us loads of details, just an outline of how you will scum hunt and use your votes for the good of the town).
I will cooperate with my fellow Quorum member and discuss the day's events, but carefully so until I'm quite sure of their allegiance. I will not keep the rest of the people on this ship in the dark, you all know I'm an active day chat participant. Even so, I will post a bit less because a possible betrayal could prove to be disastrous. I also want to speak with a wide vocabulary so people won't have to suspect me - as borked a bot as I may be - of being a Cylon. I'm not going to tell you how I will scum-hunt, because that ruins the chance of success of my method.

Anything else that might convince us to vote for you.
If you vote me for president, I will refrain from posting the Star Wars Holiday Special on Day 2 (and believe me, you will be so braindead after watching that giant space turd from start to finish that all of your scum hunting skills will be warped beyond hyperspace).

[jaczac]

Bork, i think you'd make a great pertner, only you havent claimed.

Dust (4) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (2) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (6) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster,
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho

[CmG]

Now you look like your ally has a good chance of getting elected so you catch the momentum.

Whatever here a list Dust



Dust Either him or Zack
Kromos
wolfcheese
Sumikoko
Ubernox
Zane
Borkbot
RandomNumbers0
Goremancer
TheWaaagh
Deathfire123
divemaster127
Zack either him or Dust
1jaczac
Rocshi
Mopin
Escaho
CaptainUsopp
Sir William Wallace

This on a rather neutral analysis over the last shared games together. Newcommers are seen as wildcards thats why i am excluding you.

[CmG]

Well TheWaaagh is scum sry i forgot. He had a nice slipup with the traitor where he said he sees him as his ally. If the traitor kills a citizen he doesn't turn into one and searches for a new target.

[CmG]

I highly suggest you stop thinking in good and evil. I was 2 times scum this doesn't make me scum in this game too. Same with the goodie2shoes the other games. Please keep that in mind. Most people are just voting out of hunches.
I don't see Jaczac as a good quorum member no offense though. Same with the other Brother lovers ;)

[TheWaaagh]

Well TheWaaagh is scum sry i forgot. He had a nice slipup with the traitor where he said he sees him as his ally. If the traitor kills a citizen he doesn't turn into one and searches for a new target.

You really think that was my slip-up? You disappoint me CmG, I thought you held a higher opinion of me. Oh well.

[jaczac]

I highly suggest you stop thinking in good and evil. I was 2 times scum this doesn't make me scum in this game too. Same with the goodie2shoes the other games. Please keep that in mind. Most people are just voting out of hunches.
I don't see Jaczac as a good quorum member no offense though. Same with the other Brother lovers ;)
My brother has nothing to do with this.

[CmG]

You really think that was my slip-up? You disappoint me CmG, I thought you held a higher opinion of me. Oh well.

Soon it wont matter anymore anyway Waaaghi-kun lol.

Yeah jaczac you know its just like you sit on your computer and your brother comes in and sees something he shouldn't see. Or you are just easy to read for him because you are brothers. This stuff i don't claim that your brother has something to do with this. It's just some kind of extra risk ^^

[jaczac]

Call me crazy, but CmG is acting scummy in more ways than one.

1. His avatar is a cylon (or at least i suspect) in the show.
2. He speaks very much, allowing him to possibly repeat phrases which we've missed.
3. He is accusing everyone about something.

Just my hunch

[BorkBot]

Bork, i think you'd make a great pertner, only you havent claimed.

And I'm not going to. Claiming a role in a game where you can't really deliver proof until much later would be silly.

Not saying that your citizen claim was bad. It's actually quite good to know one citizen, but no more than one. Otherwise the kills of the evil clones might get out of hand.

As a side-note, anyone notice how the word cylons has almost exactly the same letters as the words clones and clowns? There's something inherently evil about that combination of letters.

[CmG]

It's day 1 who cares? It's not like the cylons will spam their codes like crazy. You are even more scummy Jaczac because you don't lurk like every other game so far and almost all of your posts have 0 information except the first one where you claimed citizen.

[TheWaaagh]

It's day 1 who cares? It's not like the cylons will spam their codes like crazy. You are even more scummy Jaczac because you don't lurk like every other game so far and almost all of your posts have 0 information except the first one where you claimed citizen.

Lol CmG, you've accused everyone so far of being some form of scum, is there anyone here you do trust?

[Sir William Wallace]

I'm not even going to pretend I know what is going on day 1. I was expecting to be looking for scum, not a mayor.
I'll vote for Zack and Dust.
Looks like I might have to spend more time at my computer than I thought to play this game.

Dust (5) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (2) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (7) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace,
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho

[Escaho]

To those voting, I implore you not to solely vote for Dust and Zack. They have been promoting each other for this vote and neither had claimed a role. At least with jaczac, we can assume Citizen. I am very wary of both entering the Quorum together. Perhaps Zack and jaczac would be a better duo.

[Ubernox]

Sorry I couldn't pay much attention to this day, I'm a little busy atm.

Vote Dust

Vote Zane

[TheWaaagh]

To those voting, I implore you not to solely vote for Dust and Zack. They have been promoting each other for this vote and neither had claimed a role. At least with jaczac, we can assume Citizen. I am very wary of both entering the Quorum together. Perhaps Zack and jaczac would be a better duo.

I implore everyone to finish voting for whoever so that we can be done with Day 1 and get into the real game.

Dust (6) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (2) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (7) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace,
BorkBot (5) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho
Zane (1) - Ubernox

[Kromos]

I implore everyone to finish voting for whoever so that we can be done with Day 1 and get into the real game.
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I think night 1 will go on until after christmas so we might as well make the most out of today.

[Zack]

heh, day 1 drama instead of day 1 trollfest. I guess it is better o.o

Anyway, guess i'l give my second vote to...

vote BorkBot

Though if Sumi convinces me I may change one of my votes :P

Dust (6) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox
jaczac (5) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (2) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (7) - TheWaaagh, Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace,
BorkBot (6) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho, Zack
Zane (1) - Ubernox

[CmG]

Lol CmG, you've accused everyone so far of being some form of scum, is there anyone here you do trust?

I will trust the first T PR who reveals himself and gets elected. Everything else is not effective for a good town start. 4 reds 2 randoms 3 code spammers vs 11 Town. Ololol then we have to vote 2 people. cmon this can only go pro town if a Town PR claims.

Everything else is retarded.

[TheWaaagh]

Actually, I'm interested in preserving the balance of power. So I'm going to retract my Zack vote and switch it to Jaczac to keep the tie going.

Unvote Zack
Vote Jaczac

Dust (6) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox
jaczac (6) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho, TheWaaagh
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (2) - Rocshi, CaptainUsopp
Sumikoko (2) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (6) - Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace,
BorkBot (6) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho, Zack
Zane (1) - Ubernox

[Sumikoko]

Heh, very well Zack. xD I enjoyed your little interview there. It's unlikely for the votes to swing in my favor now but I thought I'd take a stab at it for Borkbot and Zane.

Citizens! I proclaim to you my honest, unadulterated answers, unlike other candidates who might have possibly fudged their answers to gain the most appeal.

Why you wanted to be a member of the Quorum in the first place.
As I've said, I'll be completely honest. The game's boring without a night chat lol. You saw what I did last game to rid myself of boredom. I nearly died trying to keep a secret, which, now I can tell my Quorum member if I find him/her trustworthy enough. Being Quorum member will inhibit me from unleashing WIFOM chaos lol.

Why you are the best candidate for the job.
I find honesty to be a key as a Quorum member. Putting two highly experience players on the spot is preferable on the outset. But the flip side is, they'll have the skills to be highly selective in what they tell you town members. I would be very wary about placing them together.

What skills do you have that the other candidates don't (how good you are at FM not role abilities).
Experience? Intuition? Bah. I say, etiquette! You will never see me curse and provoke people (unless you force me to be). I am always gentle little Sumi who say what I need to say in the politest manner possible and move on. I am not those who will spam and say the same thing or those who go around provoking the heck out of everyone and cause mass chaos. Conciseness and politeness. That's my motto.

What you plan to do once elected.
Pool together all resources and lead the town to victory, of course. I do not plan to hide any information, and hope as town, you'll put your trust in me as I will in you.

Anything else that might convince us to vote for you.
One trait that no one has. I'm female. Did I mention I have a homing chainsaw? No? Okay, well. And I have a homing chainsaw. :)

[Luna]

31 votes have been counted, the day may end prematurely if all 40 votes are cast.

You may decide to skip one or both of your votes if you so desire.

If the Day 1 ends early, then Night 1 may finish before the 25th December, and Day 2 may run through the holidays for people to post if they have a spare minute.

[BorkBot]

CmG has me in doubt. He's acting strangely scummy, but it reminds me of Dust in the previous game. It could be a good thing or a bad thing.

I do find it somewhat strange that he keeps saying this about me:

HE DOESN'T EVEN WANT THIS ROLE

Never did I say that. It's true that I had no plans to participate as a nominee, but I didn't oppose it either. Go ahead and investigate yours truly whenever you like. You can't possibly find anything incriminating. Except if I get framed or if you're a cop riddled with insanity of course :p

[Kromos]

I will be looking back through the posts in order to find repeated phrases. I suggest people do the same.

[CaptainUsopp]

Fine, then, if you need votes, then I'll choose my favorites.

-vote jaczac
-vote Dust

[Zack]

Hmm, now I feel compelled to vote for Sumi, heh

But the question is... Which of my two votes will I change? -thinking-

[BorkBot]

CaptainUsopp, in case you were under the impression that you were being ignored, not so.

It's simply more attractive for us to vote to elect players whose playstyles we have some knowledge of. It's too difficult to foresee what you may be trying to accomplish. And election votes are based on trust.

[TheWaaagh]

Not to mention that it'd be nice if you included vote tallies every time you voted CaptainUsopp.

[TheWaaagh]

Since I can't affect the votes for Dust, I'm going to pull out my vote for Jaczac and vote for Sumikoko. Maybe we can add another person into the tie mix.

Unvote Jaczac
Vote Sumikoko

Dust (7) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox, Captain Usopp
jaczac (6) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho, Captain Usopp
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (2) - BorkBot, Zane
Zack (6) - Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace,
BorkBot (6) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho, Zack
Zane (1) - Ubernox

[TheWaaagh]

D'oh forgot to add my vote for Sumi.

Dust (7) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox, Captain Usopp
jaczac (6) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho, Captain Usopp
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (3) - BorkBot, Zane, TheWaaagh
Zack (6) - Dust, wolfcheese, Kromos, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace,
BorkBot (6) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho, Zack
Zane (1) - Ubernox

[Dust]

Since I can't affect the votes for Dust, I'm going to pull out my vote for Jaczac and vote for Sumikoko. Maybe we can add another person into the tie mix.

Do you want random.org to settle who gets the quorum? I'd much rather trust my reads on someone than let it up to chance. Plus I still have my one vote. If its a tie then I will vote for the person who I think is most pro town (unless its Zack, sorry, but I can't vote on you twice).

[TheWaaagh]

Do you want random.org to settle who gets the quorum?

Yes. Yes I do.

[CmG]

Ok lets analyse how the different interest groups vote.

Town
Doesn't know who to vote because they don't know who their allies are. They try to go for people who are painfully easy to read or Town carries from the last Mafia games. Or citizen claims.
They should try to get 1 Town PR elected at least.

Mafia
Has a night chat. They know from start who their allies are and which role they have. Since everybody has 2 Votes it's painfully easy for them to elect 1 of their members into the Quorum especially if they had some connection from the last M-FM. 1 Vote on one of their Mafia pals. The other on some easy to manipulate player. They gain one ally through this. Now look who is leading the votes so far and which what voting reasons.

Neutrals
Don't care much except the Cylon or the Jester for obvious reasons. Smallest group with interest they are neglectable.




So people who have to be checked are those people voting for jaczac, Dust, Borkbot and Zack.

If Dust flips mafia the voters on his train have to be checked.
If Borkbot flips mafia the voters on his train have to be checked.
If Zack flips mafia the voters on his train have to be checked.

There you go investigative roles. You have your targets for tonight. Have fun!

[BorkBot]

I would be changing one of my votes for a joint venture with Zack or Dust if I didn't know that both of them have proven themselves very capable at deceiving me.

Though if I had to choose, I would probably choose Zack. He posts less and therefore should have more trouble concealing himself if he's a clown. I mean Cylon. :smile:

PS. I won't flip mafia. And I won't flip mutineer either. Nor will I flip clown.

[CmG]

Dust what do you think about Borkbot, Zack and Jaczac?


Borkbot what do you think about Zack, Dust and Jaczac?


Zack what do you think about Dust, Jaczac and Borkbot?


Jaczac what do you think about hash cookies?

[Kromos]

unvote Zack

I don't want day to end before I've finished analysing these posts, which may take a while -_-

[CmG]

unvote Zack

I don't want day to end before I've finished analysing these posts, which may take a while -_-

There is no sense in looking for phrases on day 1. wait for day 2 and reverse engineer after Day 2 has ended. You wont find anything today.
Those 2 will lay low or going full retard on day 1 and then go back to lurk mode.

[TheWaaagh]

There is no sense in looking for phrases on day 1. wait for day 2 and reverse engineer after Day 2 has ended. You wont find anything today.
Those 2 will lay low or going full retard on day 1 and then go back to lurk mode.

Unless he's a cylon and posts is his code word ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

You're welcome everybody.

[CmG]

vote dorkbot

[Dust]

Dust what do you think about Borkbot, Zack and Jaczac?

I'll start with the first train, jaczac.
I don't doubt that he's a citizen. He is probably easily manipulated because of this fact.

Zack:
I think he's a town PR. Not easily manipulated even if he were a citizen. Good scum hunter.

BorkBot:
Good scum hunter. Not easily manipulated. Needs to post more but its alright because it IS two days before Christmas. Probably town.

[Escaho]

Dust (7) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox, Captain Usopp
jaczac (6) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho, Captain Usopp
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (3) - BorkBot, Zane, TheWaaagh
Zack (5) - Dust, wolfcheese, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace,
BorkBot (7) - TheWaaagh, Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho, Zack, CmG
Zane (1) - Ubernox

Updated vote count, I believe.

[TheWaaagh]

If CmG's vote for BorkBot counts, then I'm going to unvote BorkBot and vote for Zack again.

Unvote BorkBot
Vote Zack

Dust (7) - wolfcheese, Kromos, Zack, Zane, Sir William Wallace, Ubernox, Captain Usopp
jaczac (6) - Rocshi, BorkBot, randomnumbers0, Goremancer, Escaho, Captain Usopp
Rocshi (2) - Goremancer, randomnumbers0
CmG (1) - Rocshi
Sumikoko (3) - BorkBot, Zane, TheWaaagh
Zack (6) - Dust, wolfcheese, Mopin, divemaster, Sir William Wallace, TheWaaagh
BorkBot (6) - Sumikoko, divemaster, Mopin, Escaho, Zack, CmG
Zane (1) - Ubernox

[Goremancer]

From the list we are voting, who has given a speech? feels like a lot of ppl are lurking