Choose Your Role!

[Forum Mafia GM]

You have 4 Options for 5 roles:

Drug Dealer(x2):

During night, PM me(FM Game Master) with the command -drug "NAME" to give someone a notification that they were bussed, blocked, witched, or attacked+healed. This result is random.

You can only use this ability once per night.

Consigliere:

During night, PM me(FM Game Master) with the command -invest "NAME" to narrow them down to a handful of possible roles--generally 2.

You can do this once per night.

Lawyer:

During night, PM me(FM Game Master) with the command -forge "NAME" -last will to change a person's last will to anything you want.

You can do this once per night.

Ventriloquist:

You will receive a smurf account. You can use both accounts in Day chat, but your main anonymous account only in night chat. Your smurf can be killed, but has a unique investigator/sheriff description. If the you dies, your smurf will die. If your smurf dies, nothing happens to you.

In addition, your smurf's vote will not count for voting purposes.

You have no night action, but you can still perform kills for your team.

Discuss with your teammates and choose your role in this thread. Good luck!

[Butters]

Hey, if it's cool with everyone I'd like to be the Consigliere. I don't think I could pull off the epic levels of bs that a lawyer or ventriloquist would require. And the drug dealer doesn't really interest me as much. Does any one object?

[Kenny]

I don't particularly have that much faith in my scum skills.
I'll let the Godfather pick based on what he thinks. Or if we have a pro player here.

[Kyle]

When you're a Jet, you're a jet all the way, from your first cigarette, to your last dying day.
Love West Side Story.

*awkward moment when probably the only Jew on the forum gets the only Jew in South Park...*
Happy Chanukah!

I might wanna be the Lawyer, but I may not be able to pull that off...

Maybe GF SHOULD pick after all...

[Kenny]

Zack...?

[Kyle]

I'm not allowed to reveal my real name to the other mafias, right?

And the drug dealer's message is just a message, no action, right?

[Forum Mafia GM]

I'm not allowed to reveal my real name to the other mafias, right?

And the drug dealer's message is just a message, no action, right?
No, you can reveal your real name to the other mafias or even the town if you want. You just can't fake it to your fellow mafia.

Yes, the Drug Dealer's message is just a message, not an action.

[Kenny]

Gawd, don't scare me like that "Kyle."
Almost made me think I infringed on the rules before the game even started...
So was I right?

[Kyle]

Actually, you are not.

I am Rocshi, actually.

(inb4whothefuckareyou)

[Kenny]

Lol. You're not the only Jew on this forum then.
I never got to see you play, cause you got done in by the jailer last M-FM right?
Anyway, I'm Sumi. :p

[Ike]

In, out, let's get crackin'

In regards to role choice, it's not going to matter terribly what you think you're good at as we will be coordinating and discussing our actions together anyhow. What I propose is that you choose roles based on which investigation pairing you think you can pull off.

For example, the relevant pairings for us are:

-Architect/Ventriloquist
-Investigator/Consigliere
- The drug dealer and Lawyer appear to be missing from the investigation list?

I will write more on that once we're told what the other pairings are.

The point is, the other players will KNOW that some roles are present for balance, aka the consig. Other roles they will most likely quickly suspect, aka the drug dealers. Ventriloquist, and lawyer are also semi-confirmed.

Therefore, whoever chooses consig should try and play from an investigator's perspective. The drug dealers should try and play from the perspective of their investigation pairing. The ventriloquist is one of the toughest ones, because his only pairing is the architect and if called out, you'll probably find it extremely difficult to convince anybody you're an architect.

Therefore, my suggestions are:

- An experienced, active player who likes to be very involved in day discussion should choose consig
- Somebody who likes to float under the radar and posts less than average should choose ventriloquist OR somebody who thinks they could really put this role to good use and has some good ideas
- The two least experienced players should choose the drug dealers OR whoever didn't get the other roles
- Not sure about lawyer yet. Will have to wait for the updated investigation pairings.

I think this will work. We have some powerful roles here.

I am happy to allocate if you can't decide.

Good luck team!

What are your forum names?

[Kyle]

Si.
Dat jailor.
Go read the Night 1 Jail chat if it ever gets released, it's actually kinda interesting.

I guess I'll be a drug dealer then. Actually kinda interesting, can change the game if the message gets played right.

[Kenny]

I think I need some clarifications on exactly what Drug Dealer does.
I was under the impression that he merely goes "-drug BLANKITYBLANKBLANK" and False does his random.org magic and pops out a random visiting notification to BLANKITYBLANKBLANK.

[Kyle]

that actually IS exactly what DD does.

funfunfun.

[Kyle]

And who is you, Ike?

[Kenny]

I'm assuming yes but to be safe...
Will the Drug Dealer be notified as well which notification was sent to the victim?

[Ike]

I'm Muso.

I'm still in Indonesia and not flying back to Australia until tomorrow, but I will try to get to a computer as frequently as I can until I'm home.

[Kyle]

Our objective should probably be to find Maria ASAP. Then we win :D

Do we perform actions after picking roles, or do we nothing tonight?

[Kyle]

And, who be Butters?

[Kenny]

Muso, since you're the GF, are you leaning toward any role you want for yourself?
You should probably get first picks.

[Ike]

I will probably take the Ventriloquist, but I won't decide for sure til we find out the missing identities in our gang and the missing investigation pairings.

[Clyde]

I wouldn't mind being Consig (due to SC2 mafia experience), Drug Dealer (sounds interesting), or Ventriloquist (also sounds interesting), personally.

And Kyle, a Jewish lawyer? Stereotype confirmed!

[Clyde]

Also, Barbrady is online, but not invisible. Since that's a South Park character, I'm assuming he's involved in forum mafia. Since he's online during night chat, he might be someone to keep an eye on.

[Kyle]

I'm pretty sure our accs are set to be forever invisible.
JEWISH LAWYER YES
except i have little experience. oh well.

Clyde and Butters, who are IRFL (in real forum life?)

[Clyde]

I'm pretty sure our accs are set to be forever invisible.

Obviously Barbrady's account was either fucked up or he turned invisibility off. Either way, I saw him listed under the Active Users. You can also probably deduce the identity of some other Mafia by paying attention to who is most active during the night. Right now, the following users are online:

cookies4you
gay
Goonswarm
Lazers
Lysergic
Nick
wolfcheese
Zam

If anyone reveals during the day as these people, we should check them out.


JEWISH LAWYER YES

xD


Clyde and Butters, who are IRFL (in real forum life?)

I'll never tell.

[Clyde]

Further narrowing down the list, of the above active players, only the following are signed up for forum mafia 8:

Goonswarm
wolfcheese
Lysergic

Goon might be online constantly as mod. However, wolfcheese and Lysergic are people to keep an eye on.

And Barbrady is DEFINITELY a forum mafia account, and was definitely online. He is quite possibly a Shark. I recommend checking him via Consig as soon as possible (tomorrow possibly, depending on how day goes).

[Kyle]

Obviously Barbrady's account was either fucked up or he turned invisibility off. Either way, I saw him listed under the Active Users.

Or maybe he's a random guy that HAPPENS to be named after a character.

lol its 3 AM.

My first choice is Lawyer.
Second choice is Drug Dealer.
I will let Muso decide.

GNGL

[Kenny]

Unless Yayap is on our team, (because from what I hear, he's a master at stalking mechanics) I'd be extremely wary about playing as Ventriloquist. If possible, someone whose time is really flexible and has two computers that can access the internet at the same time should play as Vent.
I'm still unsure which role I want, since it's literally my first time playing as scum, lol. For the record, I do have fairly terrible luck.

Ventriloquist seems really fun to play, but requires what seems to be an unreal amount of work. I'm a senior in high school and college apps are due soon. I can easily afford the time AFTER I turn in my application, but that won't be till a week later.
Drug Dealer seems the easiest, but considering my terrible luck, watch me send a block notification to someone who killed that night and succeeded lol. And then have a lookout follow that person too. -gets lynched the next day-
Lawyer and Consigliere is just meh.
Lol. Y NO EASY SCUM ROLES FOR SUMI TO PLAY??

[Butters]

Yo, I'm TheWaaagh. I'll probably end up talking a lot during the day chat so playing an investigator shouldn't be too hard, so yeah I'd still like to be the consig if that's up for grabs. I wonder why Barbrady would turn his invisibility off? That doesn't seem very... mafia like.

And do you see Sumi? I still haven't gotten to play a townie yet lol.

[Kenny]

Heeeey Rome buddy. xD We meet again in Night Chat!
This is hilarious, you always getting Mafia. I'll keep that in mind next time when I'm town. I'll just go ahead and start a lynch against you. Heh.

So for the Lawyer. If you changed their last will, I'm assuming you can 1. do this even if they're not killed that night and 2. not notify the victim that their last will has been changed. So what if the person submits a new last will after we've forged one? Do WE get notified they changed it again?

[Kenny]

LOL Okay just have to share this with you guys.
You know that ad bar right on the top-ish part of the forum?
Well it just changed to an ad for the New York JETS. Ironic, isn't it?

[Butters]

Btw, you can add "Ned" to the list of people that have turned off invisibility, are in the forum mafia area but aren't listed as looking at any of the threads in the main area.

And yeah, I feel like I'm just going to get lynched every game as a leap of faith at this point, thank god this game is anonymous lol.

I'm going to double check but does it say if the lawyer counts as "visiting" someone when he forges a new will?

[Kenny]

Ah, good question. Didn't think of that.
Don't forget, questions to His Almighty False-ness should be in green. :)

[Butters]

Well, I just went back and checked over the rules and don't see it mentioned here so I'm a ask it now:

Does the Lawyer's action count as him visiting a person for the purposes of bus driving, witching, lookout, detective, etc.?

[Kyle]

I do have two comps, but the worst schedule of all of you, I'm really busy all the time.
I should definitely not be Vent or Consig, cause they must be active. I can forge shit pretty well, (doesn't look fake) but I'm not sure it would be the best at throwing the game into confusion, which an experienced player could do with this.

-choose Drug Dealer

[Butters]

Alright well if we're just taking stuff:

-choose Consigliere

[Ike]

I wouldn't mind being Consig (due to SC2 mafia experience), Drug Dealer (sounds interesting), or Ventriloquist (also sounds interesting), personally.

And Kyle, a Jewish lawyer? Stereotype confirmed!

Clyde, I'm going to assume from this quote that it's your first time playing forum mafia. There's no need to keep your identity secret. Nobody here's going to be looking down on the first timers. It would just be nice to know who's on our team. We have to work together 100% for any chance of winning this, and the first step in that has got to be trust.

Now, who are you?

[Ike]

Obviously Barbrady's account was either fucked up or he turned invisibility off. Either way, I saw him listed under the Active Users. You can also probably deduce the identity of some other Mafia by paying attention to who is most active during the night. Right now, the following users are online:

cookies4you
gay
Goonswarm
Lazers
Lysergic
Nick
wolfcheese
Zam


I agree that this could be useful information, well done :). However, it doesn't make me think mafia.

Somebody who is deliberately turning off invisibility and actively appearing during the mafia-only night screams citizen/ or neutral to me -
- think ghost looking to die
- or citizen trying to draw attention

[Butters]

I agree that this could be useful information, well done :). However, it doesn't make me think mafia.

Somebody who is deliberately turning off invisibility and actively appearing during the mafia-only night screams citizen/ or neutral to me -
- think ghost looking to die
- or citizen trying to draw attention

Well if they're not in any of the open threads they could be trying to hide in plain sight. I remember last game we (Rome) noticed McPwnage had invisibility off and wasn't reading any of the open threads. And it turned out he was Jesus, so you never know.

[Kenny]

Well if they're not in any of the open threads they could be trying to hide in plain sight. I remember last game we (Rome) noticed McPwnage had invisibility off and wasn't reading any of the open threads. And it turned out he was Jesus, so you never know.
I'm honestly not sure how much I want to trust that anymore. Claw was practically always doing that, which made me really suspicious of him, but he only turned out to be commoner jerking our chains.

It'll be much harder trying to stalk people now though, since turning invisibility OFF isn't as likely as people bothering turning it ON.
Any pro stalkers or mechanic abuse stalker catcher whateveryouwannacallthem-ers?

[Ike]

Well if they're not in any of the open threads they could be trying to hide in plain sight. I remember last game we (Rome) noticed McPwnage had invisibility off and wasn't reading any of the open threads. And it turned out he was Jesus, so you never know.

I agree, it could just be another layer of WIFOM, but I don't think it should lean us toward mafia just yet.

In terms of a potential role list, we have this:

Kyle: Drug dealer
Butters: Consig. (Clyde, I am only choosing Butters because he's an experienced player and I suspect consig is going to require a lot of delicacy to play this game. It is also probably, our most important role. You may turn out to be the best player on the team, but for now I'm simply going to choose the more experienced forum mafia player as there's little else to distinguish on.)
Ike: I'm going to take Ventriloquist

That leaves one more Drug dealer and a Lawyer for you and Kenny to pick between.

[Kenny]

Ah. In that case, I do believe I'm leaning slightly toward a Lawyer then. (Still, depending on what role corresponds to this role. Lookout or something I hope.)
Forging other people's behavior isn't too terribly hard for me.
Especially since, assuming no one in town is going to reveal their real names, everyone's roleplay starts now, whether they choose to take on a new persona or keep their old one, no one can really tell (unless it's something dead obvious, like apparently Jack's, I quote, "unbridled arrogance" that gave him away? I dunno. Do we have any super seasoned players well in touch with the others in here?). Going through a few posts shouldn't be too terribly hard. And the dead can't complain about their last will being different, kufufufufufu... -evil Sumi laugh-

[Butters]

Awww I just realized something horrible about the Lawyer: the dead person's role is still revealed to the town. The whole thing I thought with the Lawyer was that you could make people "claim" a different role in their last wills. But at least you can still mess with their "night" actions each night to paint a different picture of how the game's actually been going. (i.e falsifying investigator reports or who an escort blocked).

[Butters]

Also, how much does someone want to bet that Kyle is random targetted the first night a jailor/vig gets the chance? Simply so people in the day chat can say "OMG they killed Kenny!"

I'm sorry bud, but I think you're doomed this game :(.

[Butters]

*Kenny, not Kyle, lol

[Ike]

Also, how much does someone want to bet that Kyle is random targetted the first night a jailor/vig gets the chance? Simply so people in the day chat can say "OMG they killed Kenny!"

I'm sorry bud, but I think you're doomed this game :(.

LOL. Good point. I'd almost make him a drug dealer on that reasoning alone. Don't want to lose the Juris Doctor this early.

[Kenny]

Wait, wait, I don't watch South Park. Fill me in on this.

[Butters]

For your viewing pleasure:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHhx_-r6Kmg

[Kenny]

Sorry, can you post a link instead of embedding it? I'm on my Android browser and it won't play embedded videos. That said, I will also be slow as hell trying to say something. Dang parents and their computer snatching.

[Butters]

I wish we had more to do tonight than me posting youtube videos lol, but oh well here ya' go.

[Butters]

Okay, round three. I deleted the "g" at the end. So just add that and you should be good to go. Also you should be able to just click "watch on youtube" in the video when it says embedding disabled.

[Butters]

I give up. Just go on youtube and search for "oh my god! they killed kenny" you'll find something.

[Kenny]

THAT'S TERRIBLE.
I SWEAR IF SOMEONE KILLS ME BECAUSE OF THAT...

READY SUMI CHAINSAW.

[Forum Mafia GM]

- The drug dealer and Lawyer appear to be missing from the investigation list?

Thanks, that was a bit of an oversight. I forgot I removed puppeteer from possible randoms. Check it out now and you should have a better idea.


I'm assuming yes but to be safe...
Will the Drug Dealer be notified as well which notification was sent to the victim?
No. Good question though :D

[Ike]

Okay the updated Investigation pairings are:

-Citizen/GF (Overrides night action investigation ex. GF is blackmailer he will still show up as Citizen/GF)
-Investigator/Consigliere
-Architect/Ventriloquist
-Enchantress/Witch/Drug Dealer
-Merchant/Masochist/Lawyer

With this in mind:

Drug dealer 1:Kyle
Drug dealer 2: Clyde
Ventriloquist: Me
Lawyer: Kenny
Consigliere: Butters

Let me know if you guys are happy with this?

I think the drug dealers can probably make a good go of pretending to be Enchantresses. I will appear in the citizen category, which is good because trying to fake an Architect is probably suicide. Kenny has 2 choices, but both of them are neutrals and tricky ones.

Best of luck.

[Clyde]

I'm happy with that; I was leaning towards Drug Dealer anyway. Though a good point has been made about Kenny being pretty much doomed. In SC2 maf, picking "Kenny" as a name is a night 1 death sentence.

And to answer your previous question, I'm neither a first timer nor going to reveal myself. Why are you pushing so hard for a reveal of my forum identity?

[Kenny]

I don't think Masochist is that hard to fake, because it's only a warped Survivor, right?
The only problem is, if I play as masochist and am forced to roleclaim, it could be baaaad.
Already having this name is a problem. They'll take a stab at me as survivor just to see if I'll kick the bucket. LSDKFJKLSDJFKLSDFJ

[Kyle]

Do we need to PM you to hand in official role list?

[Kyle]

PM'd anyway :D

[Ike]

I'm happy with that; I was leaning towards Drug Dealer anyway. Though a good point has been made about Kenny being pretty much doomed. In SC2 maf, picking "Kenny" as a name is a night 1 death sentence.

And to answer your previous question, I'm neither a first timer nor going to reveal myself. Why are you pushing so hard for a reveal of my forum identity?

If there is one thing I have learnt playing this game, it is that nobody plays forum mafia anything like they do Sc2.

I don't understand why you are concealing your identity unless you have something to hide. What could you have to hide from your own team?

[Butters]

I don't understand why you are concealing your identity unless you have something to hide. What could you have to hide from your own team?

Unless he's not on our team... DUN DUN DUN!

[Kyle]

He could be lover...
Lover IS here...

*fists*

[Clyde]

Lawl. Ike and Kyle are so paranoid.

[Ike]

This is ridiculous.

[Ike]

You are either

a) the Lover not even trying to hide
b) a regular mafia messing with his own team

[Kyle]

I was joking. (kinda)

But, it is true, if we kill the lovers, we win the game, cause we merge into 8:12 ratio.
w-w-w-winning.

We are all ridiculous.

Wait, a team is arguing amongst themselves...
DAMN YOU FALSETRUTHHHH

[Clyde]

You are either

a) the Lover not even trying to hide

Wow; brilliant deduction! The person who is stirring up trouble and calling attention to himself is the role whose ONLY PURPOSE IN THE GAME is to avoid calling attention to itself.

You're a regular Sherlock Holmes. I'm glad we're in your capable hands, oh great harmonious leader.

If we're given anonymous accounts, why reveal who we are? That defeats the point. I don't understand why it's such a massive deal to you to know what my regular username is.

I'd also like to point out that Kyle was the first person to accuse me of being one of the Lovers, and is thus suspect numero uno for being the Jets Lover in my book.

[Kenny]

Guys, guys. Internal conflict = deleterious to our survival. You saw how miscommunication within Rome brought its downfall last game.
We already have the town, a few neutrals, and the other Mafia against us. We don't need to pit ourselves against each other as well.
I personally have no reason for knowing who Clyde is, since we'll find out after the game anyway lol.
Finding out now will let us know playing habits but it's whatevs for me.
Have you played a FM before, Clyde? That's all I want to know.

[Clyde]

Have you played a FM before, Clyde? That's all I want to know.

As I'm pretty sure I've already stated, yes. I've also played a fuck ton of SC2 Mafia (sorry Ike, but it still counts as experience), and IRC mafia. So I know what I'm doing.

Count-up until Ike disagrees with/insults EVERY post I've made since his last round of replies: 14 minutes and counting.

Since this is a clearly established theme already, I'm going to stop offering any sort of advice or opinion and just do what I'm told. If we lose, Ike will only have himself to blame for being such a massive asshole on Night 1 (before the game has even started).

[Ike]

I'm not trying to fight with him. On the contrary I've been trying my hardest to make peace.

He's just losing his shit.

[Clyde]

No, you've been attacking everything that I say (even things not directly addressed to you) because you think I have no experience with forum mafia, and then trying to play the "I'm being rational yo" card, while barely able to hide your suspicions that you think I'm up to no good (for no other reason than, apparently, I won't tell you what my forum account is).

And snide little comments like "he's just losing his shit" are doing nothing to diffuse the situation.

Whatever. I'm done fighting with you. If this is how this game is going to go, I'll just give my spot to a reserve and go back to playing the SC2 mafia that you seem to hate so much.

EDIT:
In fact, that's what I will do. Already PMed game master about it. If this is how Night 1 went, I'd hate to imagine staying in the game with Muso in charge.

[Ike]

I actually don't know what you're talking about anymore.

But whatever, do as you will.

[Kyle]

CHILL THE FUCK OUT
AND KILL SOME DAMN SHARKS

#thatisall

[Clyde]

I actually don't know what you're talking about anymore.

But whatever, do as you will.

Go look at your response to my first post in every topic. Especially relevant is the "Scum tips to avoid getting fried" topic, where you replied to my post ONLY to point out that all SC2 mafia experience is irrelevant.

I don't feel like dealing with your hostility. Bye.

[Butters]

Huh, that was a quick game. It's a shame to see you go, Clyde. I had actually just typed up a post to try to get you to chill and stay with us, but it logged me out so I'm back to a blank slate.

Before you go, want to tell us who the other team's lover is? (kidding).

[Clyde]

I've been encouraged to stay, and have changed my mind.

Muso, don't fucking treat me like a child. Guaranteed to piss me off.

Moving on, the Sharks are taking for fucking ever.

[Butters]

I've been encouraged to stay, and have changed my mind.

Muso, don't fucking treat me like a child. Guaranteed to piss me off.

Moving on, the Sharks are taking for fucking ever.

Awwwwww but Clyde is always the one that hates the group's schemes and tries to get out any chance he gets. If you had left, and Kenny got killed tomorrow night, we'd be doing the show justice.

Oh well, fine, I guess you can stay.

[Ike]

Even though you may think I hate you (and I don't).

I'm glad you've decided to stay.

[Kenny]

If you had left, and Kenny got killed tomorrow night, we'd be doing the show justice.
Waaagh, I swear, if you jynx this, prepare to have your neck sawed off.

That said, I'm glad you're staying with us, Clyde. :)
Here's to a great game!

[Butters]

Waaagh, I swear, if you jynx this, prepare to have your neck sawed off.

Don't worry, worst case scenario you die and then the rest of us lose the game for you. It's not like we haven't been there before ;).

UNLESS OF COURSE YOU'RE THE LOVER AND IF YOU DIE YOU LOSE.

On an unrelated note, I really want to see the shark's night chat. Mainly because I want to see their pages and pages of strategic discussion get fucked up after the horrors of the real night 1 lol.

[Clyde]

Just imagine when they see the Jersey Shore-esque drama that is our Night Chat, though. xD

[Butters]

Lol I'd rather be a drama queen that gets shit done than whatever the fuck they're doing over there.

And that's why I'm a Jet for life.

[Clyde]

They probably found some incredible game-breaking mechanic that will fuck us all over.

Or maybe they only post a letter at a time.

[Kenny]

Don't worry, worst case scenario you die and then the rest of us lose the game for you. It's not like we haven't been there before ;).

UNLESS OF COURSE YOU'RE THE LOVER AND IF YOU DIE YOU LOSE.

On an unrelated note, I really want to see the shark's night chat. Mainly because I want to see their pages and pages of strategic discussion get fucked up after the horrors of the real night 1 lol.
Let's not make this a Rome retake lol.

UNLESS OF COURSE YOU'RE THE LOVER AND YOU HOPE I DIE.

Lol Waaagh. xD Playing Mafia with you is so funzors. This chat is much more interesting than that Rome one we had. Which was like a ghost chat.

On a related note to your unrelated note, didn't someone say a shark could be afk? Lol. I can see you charging into their domain after the game WHICH WE WILL WIN AS SCUM FOR ONCE.
"LET ME SEE ALL YOUR DISCUSSION- HEY THERE'S NOTHING HERE."
-Shark123 was afk for N1-
"FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUU"
-sees Sumi tossing a bar of soap-
"FFFfuh goodness sake..."

Okay I'm having waaay too much fun in this night chat lol.

[Butters]

Lol Waaagh. xD Playing Mafia with you is so funzors. This chat is much more interesting than that Rome one we had. Which was like a ghost chat.

Lol, yeah I feel like this is Random.Org's way of saying "hey guys, sorry about that last game, I was so wasted. Do over!"

Oh and Clyde reminded me of something with his mention of game breaking mechanics. It's not quite game breaking, but I was thinking of a possible peace treaty we could establish with the Sharks.

It involves us both sending our GF out every night, and not targetting the other Mafia. Then after our GF gets sacrificed we put in his last will something along the lines of asking the Sharks to sac their GF. Then we each pick a member to sac, and form a combined team to wreak havoc on the town as a super group. And then the people that died will win with us as a giant happy family.

And it also means we don't have to worry about the lover mechanic THAT SUMI PROBABLY IS since the lover turns into a mafia during that "event". I don't know, I figure we could use our death note to see what the other team thinks?

[Clyde]

Yeah, the Lover mechanic is really the hinge for this entire game. The sooner we find our Lover (and the Shark's Lover, preferably), the sooner we can have a super mafia. I'm not sure about the legitimacy of an alliance while the Lovers are alive, if only because eventually they will stab us in the back.

<insert anti-Shark bigotry here>

[Kenny]

Peace treaty? That's a possibility. An interesting way to have the Lover THAT WAAAGH PROBABLY IS to win with the Mafia.
I'm not against it if it means we'll win. Though. The only problem I see is, KPN is decreased if we combine and if we sacrifice 2 members each, then we're down to a 6 Mafia party with one kill. I mean, I guess we've eliminated the hostility from an enemy Mafia. But with such a large town we might need the 2KPN to at least thin the crowd first.
It's an idea worth considering though.

[Butters]

Peace treaty? That's a possibility. An interesting way to have the Lover THAT WAAAGH PROBABLY IS to win with the Mafia.
I'm not against it if it means we'll win. Though. The only problem I see is, KPN is decreased if we combine and if we sacrifice 2 members each, then we're down to a 6 Mafia party with one kill. I mean, I guess we've eliminated the hostility from an enemy Mafia. But with such a large town we might need the 2KPN to at least thin the crowd first.
It's an idea worth considering though.

That's why I figured it'd be a good thing to communicate to the Sharks via death note. That way we could kind of be like "hey guys we're going to just kill off town instead of targetting you guys, then when town's almost dead, we'll do mass suicides and form a super group and everyone can win, sound good?"

And if we keep communications open with them via deathnotes then we'll be able to coordinate it and prevent the lovers from having to backstab us.

[Forum Mafia GM]

This is what I have, speak now or forever hold you peace.

Ike - Ventriloquist
Butters - Consigliere
Clyde - Drug Dealer
Kyle - Drug Dealer
Kenny - Lawyer

[Forum Mafia GM]

Our objective should probably be to find Maria ASAP. Then we win :D

Do we perform actions after picking roles, or do we nothing tonight?
Nothing

[Forum Mafia GM]

Heeeey Rome buddy. xD We meet again in Night Chat!
This is hilarious, you always getting Mafia. I'll keep that in mind next time when I'm town. I'll just go ahead and start a lynch against you. Heh.

So for the Lawyer. If you changed their last will, I'm assuming you can 1. do this even if they're not killed that night and 2. not notify the victim that their last will has been changed. So what if the person submits a new last will after we've forged one? Do WE get notified they changed it again?
Your assumptions are correct. If they submit a new will, you will not get notified.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Well, I just went back and checked over the rules and don't see it mentioned here so I'm a ask it now:

Does the Lawyer's action count as him visiting a person for the purposes of bus driving, witching, lookout, detective, etc.?
Yep.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Do we need to PM you to hand in official role list?
Quite a redundant question.