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Forum Mafia GM
December 21st, 2011, 01:50 PM
You have 4 Options for 5 roles:

Disguiser:

During night, PM me(FM Game Master) with the command -disguise "NAME" to kill and impersonate someone. Your original account will be killed in his place. Your original account will not be cleaned.

You may only use this ability once and even after using this ability, you can still perform kills for your team.


Consigliere:

During night, PM me(FM Game Master) with the command -invest "NAME" to narrow them down to a handful of possible roles--generally 2.

You can do this once per night.


Kidnapper:

During night, PM me(FM Game Master) with the command -drive "NAME1" and "NAME2" to cause any actions that affect "NAME1" to instead affect "NAME2" and vice versa.

The mayor is immune to bus drivings.
You can do this once per night.


Consort(x2):

During night, PM me(FM Game Master) with the command -block "NAME" to prevent them from performing their night action(s).

You can do this once per night.


Discuss with your teammates and choose your role in this thread. Good luck!

Mr. Hat
December 21st, 2011, 05:22 PM
Hello everyone! I'm Dust!

Victoria
December 21st, 2011, 06:05 PM
Hello everyone! I'm Ganondorf. My last (and only) experience as scum in FM VII was... less than pleasant. However, I think I know what I need to do to get the job done, and I am optimistic about this game.

My strategy for day 1 is going to be to avoid trying to geeky elected, but not to the point where I'm refusing it and becoming suspicious. As for roles, I'll be whatever.

Timmy
December 21st, 2011, 06:08 PM
Hi friends, vornskr here. My own experience as scum was FMIII, which too was less than pleasant. I'm hoping to turn things around this time. XD

Any preferences for roles?

Mr. Hat
December 21st, 2011, 06:09 PM
What should be our daytime strategy? Ignore each other? Buddy with each other (WIFOM!)? What are your ideas?

Mr. Hat
December 21st, 2011, 06:11 PM
I'll be whatever is given to me.

Timmy
December 21st, 2011, 06:21 PM
In general, I'd say it's best to ignore each other completely unless circumstances demand otherwise. Then again, it's best not to be entirely consistent about that, but people are better at noticing who talks to whom than who ignores whom.

One important word of advice: don't post large lists about who you think is what. It almost always gives away more than you want it to, even if you mean to be totally innocent with it.

As for roles, I think we should plan to give the most powerful role to the GF, since he's the only one who's confirmed not to be the lover. My feeling is that the kidnapper is the most powerful of our roles.

Regarding my own role, I'd be most happy being disguiser or consigliere, but consort's fine with me, too.

Mr. Hat
December 21st, 2011, 06:26 PM
Garrison should be the one who gives out the roles according to his impressions of people. We can say whether we dislike or like the list and state why. Now we just need to wait for him...

Timmy
December 21st, 2011, 06:31 PM
That sounds reasonable.

It also occurs to me that kidnapper, consig, and escort all give us good ways of counterclaiming if we get investigated; disguiser does not. Moreovever, if someone gets investigated as disguiser/detect, the town will have a lot of incentive to lynch them right away. So maybe it's best for the GF to be that role.

It's up to Garrison, depending on who he is and how comfortable he feels with that role. (Since disguiser is probably one of the hardest roles to pull off in FM, especially if the person you disguise as has a distinctive writing style.)

Victoria
December 21st, 2011, 06:36 PM
I thought that the godfather can't take a role...

Victoria
December 21st, 2011, 06:40 PM
Also, I would advise that everyone wait before picking an avatar (to act like you've barely touched your account before Day 1 started).

Mr. Hat
December 21st, 2011, 06:40 PM
too late...

Jason
December 21st, 2011, 10:49 PM
Hey guys I'm goremancer although I'm a bit late.

Victoria
December 21st, 2011, 11:50 PM
Well nice to meet you Goremancer.... this is your first Forum Mafia, right?

OK, now for the big reveal... what is the identity of our leader.

Timmy
December 22nd, 2011, 12:08 AM
By the way, an important piece of advice:

Once our roles have been picked, decide on what role you want to claim when you get pressured. Cit? The investigator counterpart of your role? Something unrelated?

Then brainwash yourself. Think about being that role; think about exactly how you would play in that role's shoes. It's very hard to do, because you have to ignore all the extra info you have as scum, and all the extra concerns you have.

One very, very important detail: When you post in the day chat, do not obsess over your role publically. Don't hypothesize about how things might be the result of your role-type's night actions. It's very easy to give your role (if not your alignment) away by what you choose to focus on during the day. Dust, for example, in the last game I had you marked down as a sinner from Day 1 because of how you were focusing on that role.

Another easy slip to make: If you're talking about something a mafia did at night, be very careful about revealing which mafia did it. That is, if our kill failed to go through, don't accidentally say "I wonder where the Sharks' kill is." Instead, you ought to say "I wonder why there's a missing mafia kill." That's how Shawna found out that Lionel was mafia in FMVII.

Timmy
December 22nd, 2011, 12:33 AM
Sorry for posting so much. I don't want to seem domineering; I just really want to be the first mafia team to win a game of FM. XD

I'm not sure how much hiding our reals names will be helpful, but in general I think it's a good goal to strive for. In the spirit of that, we should watch out for tells that others could use to find our real names:

Goremancer, I notice two tells that could give you away. You use "ppl" a lot more than anyone else, and you have a tendency to end the last sentence of a post without punctuating it.

Timmy
December 22nd, 2011, 12:55 AM
Oh, I just noticed that I made a huge mistake in my last post:

NEVER refer to each other by our real identities, even in night chat. We need to get used to thinking of each other as Jason, Victoria, etc. If I ever made such a dumbass slip during the day and called Jason "Goremancer" publically, that would be the end of both of us.

Garrison
December 22nd, 2011, 01:03 AM
So I don't really want to give you your roles o.o

Disguiser: Jason
Consigliere: Timmy
Kidnapper: Mr Hat
Consort: Victoria

I thought about 2 consorts, could be quite helpful?

Garrison
December 22nd, 2011, 01:04 AM
I will not tell you my real identity, because this is my first forum mafia :S

Timmy
December 22nd, 2011, 01:07 AM
GF, I think you get to give yourself a role, too. (Or am I remembering wrong?) The best part of having 2 consorts is that nobody will believe that False put two copies of the same role on one team. So once one consort goes down, the other will hopefully have better luck claiming escort.

I've had a crazy thought about disguiser: what if our disguiser tries to get elected mayor tomorrow, then disguises tomorrow night? It would steal away from the town some pretty powerful abilities... the only question is: would it be worth sacrificing our disguiser's attack so soon?

Garrison
December 22nd, 2011, 01:08 AM
Dunno I thought we just have 5 possibilites?

I am Zane ;)

Timmy
December 22nd, 2011, 01:09 AM
(If you're telling us the truth, I think that makes you either Rocshi or Apocist. XD)

Timmy
December 22nd, 2011, 01:09 AM
Oh, hello Zane. XD

Can I have some moneys? $

Garrison
December 22nd, 2011, 01:10 AM
We aren't allowed to lie in night chat, right? :)

Timmy
December 22nd, 2011, 01:13 AM
Anyways, I think your suggested role assignments look ok, with one modification:

Let Victoria be the disguiser, and Jason the consort. Disguiser is a hard role to pull off, but Victoria's a FM veteran who's proven himself several times, so I'd feel really good about having him in that role.

Garrison
December 22nd, 2011, 01:18 AM
Sure :)

Victoria
December 22nd, 2011, 01:30 AM
1) By all means, please talk all you want Timmy. Without a doubt, you're the most experienced player here and we all appreciate the advice.
2) As a general statement, I like to claim roles that AREN'T part of my investigation result. An obvious choice is doctor (very important to town and no way to prove self on own), but I often prefer to take a slightly less 'obvious' claim since claiming doctor seems a bit too obvious. Vigilante maybe? The way I see it, if the claim keeps me alive for one more day, it was worth it, so having everyone make me prove my role (which I can't do) at night might not be all bad.

Victoria
December 22nd, 2011, 01:31 AM
Sure, I'll take disguiser, but I'll definitely check my posts in here before posting in day chat. We have to take advantage of being able to post during the day, and I fully intend to....

Victoria
December 22nd, 2011, 01:31 AM
Dunno I thought we just have 5 possibilites?

I am Zane ;)

>.> ^.^ <.<

Garrison
December 22nd, 2011, 01:34 AM
I will play like always and claim citizen, if I'm a target ;)

Timmy
December 22nd, 2011, 01:36 AM
The problem with claiming vigilante is that vigi's have a day shot in this setup, so you'd be expected to prove yourself immediately.

In general, if you're disguiser, any strategy that goes "I'm X, just let me live till tonight so I can prove myself" will be risky, since town knows that's exactly what a disguiser wants. In that situation, it would probably be better to claim that you were bus driver, and give our kidnapper's actions as your own (probably claiming to have driven yourself the night you got investigated).

Mr. Hat
December 22nd, 2011, 05:15 AM
*looks over the suggested roles*
Okay that sounds fine. Garrison, are you really wanting consort? (You leave one consort for yourself)

Also, for the disguiser, I think that we should divvy up the possible disguiser options (players) to take notes on. Things to note for the disguiser are time they usually get on, style of posting, whether that person buddies or not, etc.

I'm really looking forward to this game. It's a pleasure and an honor to play with you fine gents.

Garrison
December 22nd, 2011, 05:56 AM
If I can have a role for myself sure. Guess I just didn't understand it :D

Mr. Hat
December 22nd, 2011, 07:13 AM
So this is what we have for roles so far:

Garrison: Consort
Timmy: Consigliere
Victoria: Disguiser
Mr. Hat: Kidnapper
Jason: Consort

Once we have unanimity we should officially choose the roles. I see no problem with this and I will do my best as Kidnapper (if that's our final decision).

Any concerns about this list?

Victoria
December 22nd, 2011, 09:14 AM
No concerns, I think it'll be fine. Yay for not needing consig codes!

Timmy
December 22nd, 2011, 12:03 PM
I'm happy with those assignments too.

Do we need to PM FalseTruth with them, or something?

Timmy
December 22nd, 2011, 02:42 PM
Alright, so let's get this show on the road...

I officially choose Consigliere

It's an honor to be working with you folks. Good luck & have fun.

Mr. Hat
December 22nd, 2011, 02:44 PM
I officially choose Kidnapper

This shit just got real.

Victoria
December 22nd, 2011, 03:20 PM
I officially choose Disguiser

The time has come for the mafia to emerge victorious.... to arms my brothers!

Garrison
December 22nd, 2011, 03:33 PM
I officially choose Escort

im fat

Garrison
December 22nd, 2011, 03:33 PM
I officially choose Consort

Sorry :p

Jason
December 22nd, 2011, 04:07 PM
so what's this officially choose stuff? Howcome things always happen when I'm away D:

Timmy
December 22nd, 2011, 04:12 PM
It's pretty much the way FM works. Unless you want to spend all day clicking refresh, important things are going to get said while you're away. In general it's not a big deal... the only thing to be worried about is getting lynched while you're away, but people generally wait for you to give a defense before hammering.

I just made the "officially choose" thing up. We have to choose our roles before the game will begin, so I wanted to make it clear that I was ready to go. Are you happy being consort?

Jason
December 22nd, 2011, 04:14 PM
I'm fine with whatever is left.

Mr. Hat
December 22nd, 2011, 05:31 PM
Jason should have typed in "I officially choose consort" when he was online...

Jason
December 22nd, 2011, 05:52 PM
I officially choose consort

Victoria
December 22nd, 2011, 09:48 PM
So FalseTruth, can you tell us about how long we have to wait before the day begins. It can't possibly take the Jets that long to decide roles: we had it down within 24 hours....

Forum Mafia GM
December 23rd, 2011, 04:00 PM
It wasn't the Jets, it was something else. I've got it all covered now.

This is what I have, speak now or forever hold your peace.

Garrison - Consort
Timmy - Consigliere
Victoria - Disguiser
Jimmy - Consort
Mr. Hat - Kidnapper

Victoria
December 26th, 2011, 06:21 PM
If I disguise as someone, am I allowed to leave a last will in their place (to appear when Victoria is added to the dead list)

Forum Mafia GM
December 26th, 2011, 07:28 PM
If I disguise as someone, am I allowed to leave a last will in their place (to appear when Victoria is added to the dead list)
Yes.