S-FM 204: Insanity

[Deathworlds Host]

InsanityS-FM 204

Setup (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/32596-S-FM-Insanity)

Day 1 ends in 72 hours (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160710T00&p0=136&ud=1&font=cursive)

With 13 players alive, 7



Players
Roles


1. Eggy
2. Gamefreak
3. Gyrlander
4. Iced_Monopoly
5. Kovath
6. RLVG
7. Spruance
8. Taekyon
9. TheDarkestLight
10. ThePaladin
11. Unknown1234
12. secondpassing
13. yzb25
Hidden Sinister
Hidden Sinister
Asylum Director
Hidden Insane
Hidden Insane
Hidden Insane
Hidden Insane
Hidden Insane
Hidden Insane
Hidden Insane
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

[Kovath]

Welcome... to the asylum.

Unknown1234

[Unknown1234]

Welcome... to the asylum.

Unknown1234

This makes me happy.... Maybe I am insane =)

Gamefreak

[ThePaladin]

]http://i.imgur.com/fXczv1K.jpg?1
Today On June 06 2016, we'll be commencing a new operation!
Our goal is to dismantle the established future. We're going to completely rewrite history and prevent these Sinister Mad Scientists From Letting Loose The Knowledge of Time Travel and Causing WW3.
That's the plan everyone! Got It?

http://i.imgur.com/m4mW7v6.jpg

[ThePaladin]

]
Today On June 06 2016, we'll be commencing a new operation!
Our goal is to dismantle the established future. We're going to completely rewrite history and prevent these Sinister Mad Scientists From Letting Loose The Knowledge of Time Travel and Causing WW3.
That's the plan everyone! Got It?



Umm can mod edit that to put images in spoilers.


Forgot about

"
5. Videos and photos must be in spoilers."

Unless images =/= photos :love:

[ThePaladin]

Seeing As This guy will inevitably screw us over if he is town.

Spruance

[Gyrlander]

God, I'm fucking insane.

RLVG

[ThePaladin]

Umm can mod edit that to put images in spoilers.


Forgot about

"
5. Videos and photos must be in spoilers."

Unless images =/= photos
:love:

Or give me permission to do it myself.

[Deathworlds Host]

Umm can mod edit that to put images in spoilers.


Forgot about

"
5. Videos and photos must be in spoilers."

Unless images =/= photos :love:

I can't edit the post, unfortunately, and nothing else needs to be done since it was a legitimate mistake.

While we're here, friendly reminder of the rules below :)


The Ten Commandments Rules:

1. Inactive players will be replaced or modkilled at host discretion.

2. White Bold Text shall not be used by mere mortals, this text shall be used only by me.

3. Players are not allowed to post screenshots.

4. Do not post links to other websites.

5. Videos and photos must be in spoilers.

6. Excessive insulting is not allowed.

7. Thou who edit or delete thine post shall be smited.

8. Quoting any host to player communication (excluding feedback) will result in an immediate modkill.

9. Usage of invisible ink is not allowed.

10. Communicating with players or through third parties about the game is strictly forbidden

[Iced_Monopoly]

There can only be one of us
ThePaladin

[ThePaladin]

There can only be one of us
ThePaladin

Ahh Let's put that to the test thing.

If you truly are Okabe Rintarou (Japanese) Then surely you know how to play shogi(Japanese Chess)




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I'll even give you the advantage of making the first move.

[ThePaladin]

Wow my posts are off-ball today.

Can't even get my spoiler's do work right.

[Taekyon]

This is starting well with all the random vote...

This is...insane!

[RLVG]

To start of the game with a "WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU, HOLY SHIT RLVG, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU RLVG".

I'm a Sheriff.

Or I think I'm a Sheriff.

The rolecard remains uncolored.

Now it's up to everyone, including scum, to believe me or disbelieve me. Heck, I don't even know myself.


Lunatics: Instead of receiving the rolecard they should of received, players may be marked as a Lunatic, and receive a fake rolecard. Players are not informed of being a lunatic and receive fake feedback that supports the idea that their fake role, is real.

Even the Host himself must be crazed over this move of mine. LUL

For all I know, host put in a few Red Herring "Sheriffs" who isn't getting any real feedback.



In the theme of the game, I'm fucking insane for claiming my role during RVS.



Is there a limit of how many can become Lunatics? Can the Scum become a Lunatic with a fake role that isn't of their faction?

[Deathworlds Host]

Is there a limit of how many can become Lunatics? Can the Scum become a Lunatic with a fake role that isn't of their faction?

There is no limit on the number of Lunatic roles that can be in the game.

Sinisters can be Lunatics with a role that isn't of their faction.

[GameFreak]

Sounds like typical RLVG to me.

[ThePaladin]

To start of the game with a "WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU, HOLY SHIT RLVG, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU RLVG".

I'm a Sheriff.

Or I think I'm a Sheriff.

The rolecard remains uncolored.

Now it's up to everyone, including scum, to believe me or disbelieve me. Heck, I don't even know myself.



Even the Host himself must be crazed over this move of mine. LUL

For all I know, host put in a few Red Herring "Sheriffs" who isn't getting any real feedback.



In the theme of the game, I'm fucking insane for claiming my role during RVS.



Is there a limit of how many can become Lunatics? Can the Scum become a Lunatic with a fake role that isn't of their faction?

Pretty Sure based on the setup and some roles abilities scum have to be able to become lunatics with non-faction roles.

I'm sticking to my Mad Scientist hardest-soft-claim possible.

Care for a game of chess ?

for madness of course!

[RLVG]

There is no limit on the number of Lunatic roles that can be in the game.

Sinisters can be Lunatics with a role that isn't of their faction.

I received a Town rolecard, so fuck it, I'll play as a Town.

Inb4 I'm actually scum and I win in a tie situation against another town after lynching that last scum.

[Taekyon]

So we pretty much need to wait until the first night actions are taken before doing anything else...
Or vote against all the things! *laughing uncontrollably*

[RLVG]

Care for a game of chess ?

Fuck chess, it's too easy.

Here's the REAL DEAL






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[RLVG]

So we pretty much need to wait until the first night actions are taken before doing anything else...
Or vote against all the things! *laughing uncontrollably*

I haven't seen you for a long time. 'sup m8.

[ThePaladin]

So we pretty much need to wait until the first night actions are taken before doing anything else...
Or vote against all the things! *laughing uncontrollably*

Naaa, we play our rolecard, till we learn anything otherwise.

Keep in mind that although there are lunatics

There are only so many possible scum starting out[inb4 we have both occult and cult and get a really weird end-game]

Actually.

Who wins if cult vs occult ties?

[ThePaladin]

Fuck chess, it's too easy.

Here's the REAL DEAL






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I don't know whether to love or hate you.

YOU COULD'VE AT LEAST MADE IT CHINESE CHECKERS, YOU BUGGER.

Um for checkers all pieces have to move diagonally and they can jump over enemy pieces to capture right but not their own pieces.

And get royaled at the other end of board?

That's the rules?

If correct your move.

[ThePaladin]

Fuck chess, it's too easy.


Who lost again?

[Taekyon]

I haven't seen you for a long time. 'sup m8.

Hey! Just got back in the game. Was gone for a while but felt like playing again recently :)
And what's better than this insane game to start again :P

[Gyrlander]

Breh I've been doing this before you even started making setups.

And yes, everyone. Excluding the Asylum Staff can be Lunatics.

As you said, Asylum Staff can not be Lunatics. What roles are Assylum Staff?

postedit: Made the question green

[ThePaladin]

Hey! Just got back in the game. Was gone for a while but felt like playing again recently :)
And what's better than this insane game to start again :P

I haven't played with you before so, I want to get to know you.

Quick question:

Would you consider yourself a sinister and sadistic person?

Do you like puppies?

Do you like Chess, Shogi, other strategic games like that?

Would you consider yourself a particularly happy person?
If not do you consider yourself a sad person?

Do you have multiple personalities?

~Thank you.

[Gyrlander]

As you said, Asylum Staff can not be Lunatics. What roles are Assylum Staff?

postedit: Made the question green


I think I got something, It'll be done in a minute.

Edit: Done, I added a new role, removed the uniqueness from the asylum staffs role (now renamed "Asylum Counselor"), removed two confirmed roles, and added another.

Edit V.2: School stuff is coming up soon and I won't be able to host this until June 16th.

EDIT V.3: All roles can now be lunatics, changed the Jesters win condition.

Nevermind.

[ThePaladin]

As you said, Asylum Staff can not be Lunatics. What roles are Assylum Staff?

postedit: Made the question green

I wonder....

Could it ever be the roles with asylum in the name?


Everyone better have read the setup b4 signing.

[RLVG]

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I don't know whether to love or hate you.

YOU COULD'VE AT LEAST MADE IT CHINESE CHECKERS, YOU BUGGER.

Um for checkers all pieces have to move diagonally and they can jump over enemy pieces to capture right but not their own pieces.

And get royaled at the other end of board?

That's the rules?

If correct your move.

Can you even do hexagonial stuff on a forum without it being obnoxiously large?

Yes, the pieces can go diagonally forward - but they can't go backwards though unless it's a royal piece which can go either diagonal direction.
(Captured pieces are removed).
You can chain combo multiple pieces if you can jump over all of them, remember the forwards / backwards rule though.

What's your opinion of my actual serious Sheriff claim?







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[RLVG]

Hey! Just got back in the game. Was gone for a while but felt like playing again recently :)
And what's better than this insane game to start again :P

Good idea, start in the game where you don't even know what faction you are by 100% certainty.


Who lost again?

It was freaking 6 in the morning for me. My braincells were faded.
(Totally not salty)

[Gyrlander]

If you continue talking about checkers I will fucking policy lynch you.

[ThePaladin]

Can you even do hexagonial stuff on a forum without it being obnoxiously large?

Yes, the pieces can go diagonally forward - but they can't go backwards though unless it's a royal piece which can go either diagonal direction.
(Captured pieces are removed).
You can chain combo multiple pieces if you can jump over all of them, remember the forwards / backwards rule though.

What's your opinion of my actual serious Sheriff claim?







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Main problem is the size of the board. The hexagonal part isn't hard since the whole board is made up of triangles.
Chinese chess is hard to make since part of the board uses diagonals and the rest is squares + river and other stuff.

I... believe... you...? Especially with this setup. I really don't even care enough to dive into wifom for it since I still have a headache from THAT game.[it's voldemort status now]

Based on how roles work, I assume at least one sinister doesn't know his role or Asylum counselor death mechanic would be stupid to have then.

[Taekyon]

I haven't played with you before so, I want to get to know you.

Quick question:

Would you consider yourself a sinister and sadistic person?

Not really, depends..

Do you like puppies?

Of course! But I have a cat

Do you like Chess, Shogi, other strategic games like that?

Checkers, Chess, I won some chess tournament before but nothing big. Love some good strategy board games (TableTop Simulator FTW)

Would you consider yourself a particularly happy person?

Yes, except when I'm sad
If not do you consider yourself a sad person?

Yes, except if I'm happy

Do you have multiple personalities?

Let me consult myselfs, I'll give you the answer later

~Thank you.


Answers above!

[ThePaladin]

Good idea, start in the game where you don't even know what faction you are by 100% certainty.



It was freaking 6 in the morning for me. My braincells were faded.
(Totally not salty)

:PJSalt::PJSalt::PJSalt::PJSalt:
R L V G

[Gyrlander]

If a Sinister receives a fake insane role, he won't be able to perform his normal night actions or are they randomed?

[ThePaladin]

Answers above!

Aww you didn't slip in the setup where you don't actually know your allignment yet.

I feel so sad. Now I can't break my earliest possible scumslip catch record.

[RLVG]

If you continue talking about checkers I will fucking policy lynch you.

I'm enforcing a spoiler this time.






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Main problem is the size of the board. The hexagonal part isn't hard since the whole board is made up of triangles.
Chinese chess is hard to make since part of the board uses diagonals and the rest is squares + river and other stuff.

I... believe... you...? Especially with this setup. I really don't even care enough to dive into wifom for it since I still have a headache from THAT game.[it's voldemort status now]

Based on how roles work, I assume at least one sinister doesn't know his role or Asylum counselor death mechanic would be stupid to have then.

The-game-which-must-not-be-named was such a catastrophy lol.





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[RLVG]

:PJSalt::PJSalt::PJSalt::PJSalt:
R L V G

:Kappa: :ResidentSleeper:

[ThePaladin]

If a Sinister receives a fake insane role, he won't be able to perform his normal night actions or are they randomed?

You do realize every role that one can start out with that's not asylum staff can move[ any therefore perform their real role night action] right except for this below?

[also Can a Lunatic receive the role of Veteran, since Veteran can't visit people?]

Or The roles of sleuth/Bus Driver since those require 2 visits]?

Or any other role that I'm forgetting where the same logic applies.

[Gyrlander]

You do realize every role that one can start out with that's not asylum staff can move[ any therefore perform their real role night action] right except for this below?

[also Can a Lunatic receive the role of Veteran, since Veteran can't visit people?]

Or The roles of sleuth/Bus Driver since those require 2 visits]?

Or any other role that I'm forgetting where the same logic applies.

My dear, he said that in V.3 all roles can be lunatics.

[ThePaladin]

I'm enforcing a spoiler this time.



The-game-which-must-not-be-named was such a catastrophy lol.





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I'm probably going to lose this if for no other reason than knowing 0 about proper checkers strategies.

Hey look we are still talking about the game in addition to playing checkers.

OMG What.

[ThePaladin]

My dear, he said that in V.3 all roles can be lunatics.


All roles can be lunatics but can all roles be given to lunatics?


DUNNN DUNNN DUNNNNNNN





Maybe I want further clarification in case he forgot stuff?

[RLVG]

postedit: Made the question green

Was it an actual edit?


I haven't played with you before so, I want to get to know you.

Quick question:

Would you consider yourself a sinister and sadistic person?

Do you like puppies?

Do you like Chess, Shogi, other strategic games like that?

Would you consider yourself a particularly happy person?
If not do you consider yourself a sad person?

Do you have multiple personalities?

~Thank you.

You never did an AMA of me.



Because Asylum Director is an unique role, can a non-AD receive the AD rolecard?

[Gyrlander]

Was it an actual edit?



You never did an AMA of me.



Because Asylum Director is an unique role, can a non-AD receive the AD rolecard?

I can already see a Jester King thinking to be the Asylum Director rofl

[Iced_Monopoly]

Ahh Let's put that to the test thing.

If you truly are Okabe Rintarou (Japanese) Then surely you know how to play shogi(Japanese Chess)




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I'll even give you the advantage of making the first move.

There doesnt appear to be any mentions of playing well, so after a brief 30 second glance at wikipedia, I can now claim I can play this. My vote stands, this asylum isnt big enough for the both of us.

[ThePaladin]

As you said, Asylum Staff can not be Lunatics. What roles are Assylum Staff?

postedit: Made the question green


The Ten Commandments Rules:

1. Inactive players will be replaced or modkilled at host discretion.

2. White Bold Text shall not be used by mere mortals, this text shall be used only by me.

3. Players are not allowed to post screenshots.

4. Do not post links to other websites.

5. Videos and photos must be in spoilers.

6. Excessive insulting is not allowed.

7. Thou who edit or delete thine post shall be smited.

8. Quoting any host to player communication (excluding feedback) will result in an immediate modkill.

9. Usage of invisible ink is not allowed.

10. Communicating with players or through third parties about the game is strictly forbidden

[RLVG]

I can already see a Jester King thinking to be the Asylum Director rofl

Lol, everyone's going to RQ.








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I'm probably going to lose this if for no other reason than knowing 0 about proper checkers strategies.

Hey look we are still talking about the game in addition to playing checkers.

OMG What.

You're doing a French Opening, so I'll counter it with the Spanish Counter. :troll:







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[Gyrlander]

The Ten Commandments Rules:

1. Inactive players will be replaced or modkilled at host discretion.

2. White Bold Text shall not be used by mere mortals, this text shall be used only by me.

3. Players are not allowed to post screenshots.

4. Do not post links to other websites.

5. Videos and photos must be in spoilers.

6. Excessive insulting is not allowed.

7. Thou who edit or delete thine post shall be smited.

8. Quoting any host to player communication (excluding feedback) will result in an immediate modkill.

9. Usage of invisible ink is not allowed.

10. Communicating with players or through third parties about the game is strictly forbidden


Everyone post-edits even if it is said on the rules to not edit. I only changed the question to green though. And wtf does smite mean?

[ThePaladin]

There doesnt appear to be any mentions of playing well, so after a brief 30 second glance at wikipedia, I can now claim I can play this. My vote stands, this asylum isnt big enough for the both of us.

Then play, black(blue)[you] moves first.

Clearly since I am the real 鳳凰院凶真I am capable of playing checkers and Shogi simultaneously!

English only isn't a rule b4 anyone says something.

[ThePaladin]

Everyone post-edits even if it is said on the rules to not edit. I only changed the question to green though. And wtf does smite mean?


Would you like to see firsthand?

[Gyrlander]

Would you like to see firsthand?

Depends on what it does lol

[ThePaladin]

Lol, everyone's going to RQ.





You're doing a French Opening, so I'll counter it with the Spanish Counter. :troll:







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Ah But you forgot the Bolshevik counter-counter to the Spanish counter


Well this turned chaotic quick


http://i.imgur.com/l48M0xp.jpg?1

[ThePaladin]

Depends on what it does lol

What do you think happens irl when you get struck with 9000 lightning bolts if you aren't the great 鳳凰院凶真?

[Taekyon]

Ah But you forgot the Bolshevik counter-counter to the Spanish counter


Yo dawg, I heard you like counters so I put counters in your counters so you can counter while countering.

[RLVG]

Everyone post-edits even if it is said on the rules to not edit. I only changed the question to green though. And wtf does smite mean?

DO YOU LIKE TO GET MODKILLED?!
THAT'S HOW YOU GET MODKILLED!!!

... You rascal. :troll:


Ah But you forgot the Bolshevik counter-counter to the Spanish counter

And suddenly the strategy names changed from the spanish succession to... Bolshevik.

FINE!

I'll counter the Bolshevik counter-counter with the DPRK's Special Counter-Counter-Counter (also known as the Absolute Triple C).





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[ThePaladin]

Yo dawg, I heard you like counters so I put counters in your counters so you can counter while countering.

http://i.imgur.com/nJaNFX3.jpg


Funny you say that.

[ThePaladin]

DO YOU LIKE TO GET MODKILLED?!
THAT'S HOW YOU GET MODKILLED!!!

... You rascal. :troll:



And suddenly the strategy names changed from the spanish succession to... Bolshevik.

FINE!

I'll counter the Bolshevik counter-counter with the DPRK's Special Counter-Counter-Counter (also known as the Absolute Triple C).





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[/SPOILER]

Historical References m8.

You fool!

How could you forget the great Nihon 4xCounter, the perfect solution to all Korean Triple Counters.

So anyone have any reads about this game so far?

[ThePaladin]

Spoiler Fail

Man, I'm just bad at spoilers apparently.

[ThePaladin]

Gyrlander

Hey look i messed up on my post.

Guess what I'm not doing.

Editing it.

[RLVG]

@Gyrlander (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=11750)

Hey look i messed up on my post.

Guess what I'm not doing.

Editing it.

ROASTED & BURN'T :4Head:




Historical References m8.

You fool!

How could you forget the great Nihon 4xCounter, the perfect solution to all Korean Triple Counters.

So anyone have any reads about this game so far?

Fool, I'll counter the Great Nihon 4X with the Forty-seven Ronin featuring Agent 47 as the leader of operations.
(This historical history is as twisted as any player campaigns in europa universalis)





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[RLVG]

Greylanders

[Gyrlander]

Gyrlander

Hey look i messed up on my post.

Guess what I'm not doing.

Editing it.

Burn in hell.

[Gyrlander]

Greylanders

I'm sorry but that name is inexistent.

[RLVG]

I'm sorry but that name is inexistent.

Mandatory reply received.

Gyrlander is scum. :troll:

Gyrlander

[Gyrlander]

Mandatory reply received.

Gyrlander is scum. :troll:

Gyrlander

MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW

[ThePaladin]

ROASTED & BURN'T :4Head:





Fool, I'll counter the Great Nihon 4X with the Forty-seven Ronin featuring Agent 47 as the leader of operations.
(This historical history is as twisted as any player campaigns in europa universalis)





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Ahh but you forgot the Musashi contigency. Great for all moves involving over 40 potential threats.



Greylanders

Is that what gyrlander stands for?

[ThePaladin]

Burn in hell.

Hey, this guy is threatening me.

Surely only a sinister individual would do such a thing.

:calix:

[ThePaladin]

So besides playing chess, what actually causes the shift from rvs+shitposts to actual discussion?

[TheDarkestLight]

So besides playing chess, what actually causes the shift from rvs+shitposts to actual discussion?

Posts like this. People need to acknowledge it, which is what I've been waiting for.

Unfortunately, considering the paranoia mechanic, pressure I don't think is very good day one as reactions are likely to be wrong due to people potentially thinking they are of different alignment or running it through their head that they might not be what they received.

Pressure and reads today are going to be more useless than usual imo.

[ThePaladin]

Posts like this. People need to acknowledge it, which is what I've been waiting for.

Unfortunately, considering the paranoia mechanic, pressure I don't think is very good day one as reactions are likely to be wrong due to people potentially thinking they are of different alignment or running it through their head that they might not be what they received.

Pressure and reads today are going to be more useless than usual imo.

For all we know no one is a lunatic and that whole mechanic is just for wifom; we don't have any way of knowing how many there are. So pressure/reads should still be pursued/kept up with.

[Eggy]

lets all get on the paladin lynch train. it will be fun for everyone I promise. ThePaladin

[Eggy]

how can we find out who the lunatic is?

[Eggy]

are*

[Eggy]

or if we are lunatics ourselves?

[ThePaladin]

how can we find out who the lunatic is?

you don't

[TheDarkestLight]

For all we know no one is a lunatic and that whole mechanic is just for wifom; we don't have any way of knowing how many there are. So pressure/reads should still be pursued/kept up with.

Which is a decent point. But it's the whole fact that we don't know and that even if it isn't the case it will influence our reads and analysis. I'm not saying stop pressure, but just that it will be shittier than usual today.

[ThePaladin]

You can find out if you are lunatic yourself by coordinating what happens during the night (such as if your target was shot by vigi when you were something else) or by an asylum staff role confirming your allignment and stuff.

[ThePaladin]

Which is a decent point. But it's the whole fact that we don't know and that even if it isn't the case it will influence our reads and analysis. I'm not saying stop pressure, but just that it will be shittier than usual today.

Well I mean reads are important especially important due to this mechanic if you understand what I'm hinting at.

[RLVG]

Posts like this. People need to acknowledge it, which is what I've been waiting for.

Unfortunately, considering the paranoia mechanic, pressure I don't think is very good day one as reactions are likely to be wrong due to people potentially thinking they are of different alignment or running it through their head that they might not be what they received.

Pressure and reads today are going to be more useless than usual imo.

Well, it's a Mystery Setup with a twist that we can't trust ourselves lol.




MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW

WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF

Seriously though, copying from me? This just proves that you adore me!


Ahh but you forgot the Musashi contigency. Great for all moves involving over 40 potential threats.




Is that what gyrlander stands for?

It's my theory at least lol.

The Musashi Contigency?
Their weakness must be the Level 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 Tyrant Overlord Baal. There's possibly nothing that can counter that!





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[TheDarkestLight]

Well I mean reads are important especially important due to this mechanic if you understand what I'm hinting at.

I'm saying that you can't get proper alignment tells due to the mechanic this early. A night should give people hints as to their role.

[ThePaladin]

Well, it's a Mystery Setup with a twist that we can't trust ourselves lol.





WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF

Seriously though, copying from me? This just proves that you adore me!



It's my theory at least lol.

The Musashi Contigency?
Their weakness must be the Level 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 Tyrant Overlord Baal. There's possibly nothing that can counter that!





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AHH BUT YOU FORGET THE ULTIMATE POWER.
THE POWER OF SARDINES!!!!!!


http://i.imgur.com/eaBWesA.jpg


Any comments on the discussion of reads RLVG?

[RLVG]

I'm saying that you can't get proper alignment tells due to the mechanic this early. A night should give people hints as to their role.

What hints in particular?

[ThePaladin]

I'm saying that you can't get proper alignment tells due to the mechanic this early. A night should give people hints as to their role.

I don't think you get at what I am hinting at.

[ThePaladin]

What hints in particular?

The asylum guys powers.

People's claims on feedback not adding up the next day.

Your target mysteriously being shot by a vigi.

Etc.

[Unknown1234]

Hi guys.

[ThePaladin]

Hi guys.

Don't claim or claim to be able to figure out impossible information this time.

Thanks.

~Your friendly neighborhood Mad Scientist.

[Unknown1234]

Don't claim or claim to be able to figure out impossible information this time.

Thanks.

~Your friendly neighborhood Mad Scientist.

Remind me next time I say 100% confirmed.

Or hey, maybe drop the ego and actually scum-hunt opposed to dumbass slips?

I'm fine with either.

[RLVG]

The asylum guys powers.

People's claims on feedback not adding up the next day.

Your target mysteriously being shot by a vigi.

Etc.

If I'm a Cult Lunatic who has a fake Non-Cult role, do I get a night chat when I recruit someone?


AHH BUT YOU FORGET THE ULTIMATE POWER.
THE POWER OF SARDINES!!!!!!





Any comments on the discussion of reads RLVG?

Personally I'm having a curious "null" read on Gyrlander and he's oddly more contribute.
TDL is not his lurker self for a Day 1.



Lol, didn't know you played Disgaea. Got platinum on all the games.

The ultimate power isn't power of sardines...
It's the LOVE of sardines!!!





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[ThePaladin]

Remind me next time I say 100% confirmed.

Or hey, maybe drop the ego and actually scum-hunt opposed to dumbass slips?

I'm fine with either.

Any comments on how important or not important reads/pressure are?

[Unknown1234]

Any comments on how important or not important reads/pressure are?

Reads iz good.

[Taekyon]

The tricky part is how the Asylum Director will confirm a role.
He'll be a target the next night and we can't trust a doctor to heal him...

[Unknown1234]

The tricky part is how the Asylum Director will confirm a role.
He'll be a target the next night and we can't trust a doctor to heal him...

But, he won't be revealed?

I'm not following.

[RLVG]

RIP Game.

Asylum Director can only do anything on Insane.

Sinister won't ever know lol.

[TheDarkestLight]

I don't think you get at what I am hinting at.

Yeah, apparently not.

[TheDarkestLight]

RIP Game.

Asylum Director can only do anything on Insane.

Sinister won't ever know lol.

Actually, we can use this to get confirmed towns everyday by the person getting their role just claiming. If I am interpreting it correctly.

[TheDarkestLight]

Actually, we can use this to get confirmed towns everyday by the person getting their role just claiming. If I am interpreting it correctly.

They don't really even need to claim their role, just that they got confirmed to themselves.

[Unknown1234]

To start of the game with a "WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU, HOLY SHIT RLVG, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU RLVG".

I'm a Sheriff.

Or I think I'm a Sheriff.

The rolecard remains uncolored.

Now it's up to everyone, including scum, to believe me or disbelieve me. Heck, I don't even know myself.



Even the Host himself must be crazed over this move of mine. LUL

For all I know, host put in a few Red Herring "Sheriffs" who isn't getting any real feedback.



In the theme of the game, I'm fucking insane for claiming my role during RVS.



Is there a limit of how many can become Lunatics? Can the Scum become a Lunatic with a fake role that isn't of their faction?

You want me to role claim?

[Taekyon]

But, he won't be revealed?

I'm not following.

What I'm saying is the Asylum Director won't be able to help except if he reveal himself the next day, making him a target instantly.
Worst is, if a Doctor (If we have one) tries to heal him, we're not even sure it will work. We can't be sure the Doctor will be a real Doctor.
But maybe I'm thinking too far ahead here.

[RLVG]

You want me to role claim?

It's up to you m8.

[Unknown1234]

It's up to you m8.

I'm a little crazy, maybe we'll hold off until I feel more sane.

[ThePaladin]

If I'm a Cult Lunatic who has a fake Non-Cult role, do I get a night chat when I recruit someone?



Personally I'm having a curious "null" read on Gyrlander and he's oddly more contribute.
TDL is not his lurker self for a Day 1.



Lol, didn't know you played Disgaea. Got platinum on all the games.

The ultimate power isn't power of sardines...
It's the LOVE of sardines!!!





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AH BUT YOU FORGET.

THE POWER OF OUR CAMARADERIE





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I've only played through 4 but have seen 1,2,3. d2.
What's weird is that they actually added some stuff(story wise) to ending of d4 in psvita version.

[Unknown1234]

Well, on Day one I usually vote for what I don't want to see anymore, so....

Chess

[ThePaladin]

RIP Game.

Asylum Director can only do anything on Insane.

Sinister won't ever know lol.

Counselor death causes reveal on sinister though.

I think all sinister[that can either convert or kill] can figure out by d2. So assuredly town should be able to do the inverse.

[ThePaladin]

Well, on Day one I usually vote for what I don't want to see anymore, so....

Chess

He's not in this game yet.

[Unknown1234]

He's not in this game yet.

I'm banning him.

[ThePaladin]

I'm banning him.

Sorry you can't

Any actual comments on the player's thoughts on reads?

Or more elaboration.

Not really much else of use going on.

[ThePaladin]

RLVG

There are no night chats.


The Inmates are not allowed to talk to each other during the night.

No.

[Deathworlds Host]

Naaa, we play our rolecard, till we learn anything otherwise.

Keep in mind that although there are lunatics

There are only so many possible scum starting out[inb4 we have both occult and cult and get a really weird end-game]

Actually.

Who wins if cult vs occult ties?

If they both control 50% of the vote, then they both win.


If a Sinister receives a fake insane role, he won't be able to perform his normal night actions or are they randomed?

They perform their real night action on their intended target.


You do realize every role that one can start out with that's not asylum staff can move[ any therefore perform their real role night action] right except for this below?

[also Can a Lunatic receive the role of Veteran, since Veteran can't visit people?]

Or The roles of sleuth/Bus Driver since those require 2 visits]?

Or any other role that I'm forgetting where the same logic applies.

Yes.

Yes, in the case that a player with only 1 nightly target receives a sleuth/bus driver rolecard, then they will default to target the first of the two.
In the reverse case, then the second target will be randomized.


Was it an actual edit?



You never did an AMA of me.



Because Asylum Director is an unique role, can a non-AD receive the AD rolecard?
Yes, this is true for all unique roles as well.


If I'm a Cult Lunatic who has a fake Non-Cult role, do I get a night chat when I recruit someone?



Personally I'm having a curious "null" read on Gyrlander and he's oddly more contribute.
TDL is not his lurker self for a Day 1.



Lol, didn't know you played Disgaea. Got platinum on all the games.

The ultimate power isn't power of sardines...
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Night chats do not exist in this game.

[ThePaladin]

Nice non-cult slip RLVG

Well Played

:troll:

[Deathworlds Host]

As a reminder, please forward all questions to this account.

[Spruance]

Sup fellow clinically insane. We should all take a second and imagine our lives if we lived out our lives in a mental facility. Or not. It's not a pretty sight.

[ThePaladin]

If they both control 50% of the vote, then they both win.



They perform their real night action on their intended target.



Yes.

Yes, in the case that a player with only 1 nightly target receives a sleuth/bus driver rolecard, then they will default to target the first of the two.
In the reverse case, then the second target will be randomized.


Yes, this is true for all unique roles as well.



Night chats do not exist in this game.

Oh so we have even more insanity going on in this game from rng and possible multiple unique roles given.

inb4 there are actually 0 lunatics.

​If a veteran was a lunatic, if he didn't use his night action would that trigger the alert or would using the night action trigger the alert?

[ThePaladin]

As a reminder, please forward all questions to this account.

We can still ask them in thread right?

[Deathworlds Host]

Oh so we have even more insanity going on in this game from rng and possible multiple unique roles given.

inb4 there are actually 0 lunatics.

​If a veteran was a lunatic, if he didn't use his night action would that trigger the alert or would using the night action trigger the alert?
Using the night action would trigger the alert.

[Deathworlds Host]

We can still ask them in thread right?

Of course, just don't send questions to the separate host's accounts.

[Gyrlander]

If they both control 50% of the vote, then they both win.



They perform their real night action on their intended target.



Yes.

Yes, in the case that a player with only 1 nightly target receives a sleuth/bus driver rolecard, then they will default to target the first of the two.
In the reverse case, then the second target will be randomized.


Yes, this is true for all unique roles as well.



Night chats do not exist in this game.

But, if the asylum director gets a random role he isn't supposed to target anyone at night... so... if he's a sk he won't kill anyone?

[ThePaladin]

Poor SK not being able to kill anyone.

LUL

[Unknown1234]

Vote count A:

Unknown1234 (1 [L-6]):
Kovath
Spruance (1 [L-6]):
ThePaladin
RLVG (1 [L-6]):
Gyrlander
ThePaladin (2 [L-5]):
Iced_Monopoly, Eggy
Gyrlander (1 [L-6]):
RLVG
Chess (1 [L-6]):
Unknown1234

[ThePaladin]

Vote count A:

Unknown1234 (1 [L-6]):
Kovath
Spruance (1 [L-6]):
ThePaladin
RLVG (1 [L-6]):
Gyrlander
ThePaladin (2 [L-5]):
Iced_Monopoly, Eggy
Gyrlander (1 [L-6]):
RLVG
Chess (1 [L-6]):
Unknown1234

Super Serious vote count with a vote added that isn't even registered.

[Unknown1234]

Super Serious vote count with a vote added that isn't even registered.

Ew.

[Taekyon]

So everyone should target someone at night to at least get some info on their role.
Then again, if multiple person target the same guy, it won't help.
Should we coordinate who start first?
Like (insert player name) and (insert second player name) choose a target tonight. everybody else do nothing.
Then we see what happen the next day and get info.

[Deathworlds Host]

But, if the asylum director gets a random role he isn't supposed to target anyone at night... so... if he's a sk he won't kill anyone?

For the sake of this situation not happening, all players should be capable of targeting someone else at night.

[ThePaladin]

So everyone should target someone at night to at least get some info on their role.
Then again, if multiple person target the same guy, it won't help.
Should we coordinate who start first?
Like (insert player name) and (insert second player name) choose a target tonight. everybody else do nothing.
Then we see what happen the next day and get info.

Considering I tried to do that when it was a guaranteed win during the M-FM Heaven thingy.
And town still didn't follow it.

It's probably not happening.,.

Plus if someone recieved scum they wouldn't follow it and it just puts way too much into wifom with all the rng in this scuh as random BD and sleuth targets in addition to vet and so on.

[ThePaladin]

For the sake of this situation not happening, all players should be capable of targeting someone else at night.



PSSST GUYS.

the lunatic roles he gave out doesn't have this problem.

[ThePaladin]

You can tell cause of his word choice(first clause in that sentence) :orp:

[Taekyon]

Considering I tried to do that when it was a guaranteed win during the M-FM Heaven thingy.
And town still didn't follow it.

It's probably not happening.,.

Plus if someone recieved scum they wouldn't follow it and it just puts way too much into wifom with all the rng in this scuh as random BD and sleuth targets in addition to vet and so on.

IMO, a free-for-all targeting would be worse.
But I understand the issue with some people not following the plan.

[ThePaladin]

IMO, a free-for-all targeting would be worse.
But I understand the issue with some people not following the plan.

As soon as vet kills happen and we get a bd randomly switching people the whole thing comes apart.

Not to mention everyone would probably have to roleclaim.

[ThePaladin]

Guys here's an idea.

We just do absolutely nothing for 5 days and nights straight.

By then all town will know their proper alignment.

Then we start playing this normally.

Even if cult isn't a lunatic they can only recruit a max of 3 each.

[ThePaladin]

Game solved. GG no re.

:fb:

[Unknown1234]

Game solved. GG no re.

:fb:

I want Chess dead first. No way he's town.

[ThePaladin]

I want Chess dead first. No way he's town.

You know when I actually bring up a serious point.

Please don't shitpost in response to it.

[Unknown1234]

You know when I actually bring up a serious point.

Please don't shitpost in response to it.

You've been sour all 4 hours of the day, this is my favourite setup so I'm going to have fun.

(If it wasn't obvious,)

Stamp of Approval.

[secondpassing]

hi

[ThePaladin]

You've been sour all 4 hours of the day, this is my favourite setup so I'm going to have fun.

(If it wasn't obvious,)

Stamp of Approval.

I don't mind having fun, just say something serious in addition when quoting a serious post.

lol

[ThePaladin]

hi

Guys here's an idea.

We just do absolutely nothing for 5 days and nights straight.

By then all town will know their proper alignment.

Then we start playing this normally.

Even if cult isn't a lunatic they can only recruit a max of 3 each.

Thoughts?

[Unknown1234]

hi

Hi friend.

Top town-read ^ he's got guts.

[ThePaladin]

Hi friend.

Top town-read ^ he's got guts.

Chess has the most guts.

[secondpassing]

Thoughts?

Just got here.
Current thought is how happy I am to be in a game with ThePaladin and Iced_Monopoly at the same time.
(and yzb25)

[Unknown1234]

Just got here.
Current thought is how happy I am to be in a game with ThePaladin and Iced_Monopoly at the same time.
(and yzb25)

Just don't slip, or 'slip' *clears throat*

[secondpassing]

Just don't slip, or 'slip' *clears throat*

What does this refer to?
I didn't actually finish reading the other game you were in.

[ThePaladin]

Just don't slip, or 'slip' *clears throat*

Slipping is generally bad. You can hit your head and get a concussion or even kill yourself.:calix:

[ThePaladin]

What does this refer to?
I didn't actually finish reading the other game you were in.

Unknown said he could figure out an rp name which was impossible. I called him out on it and stuff. The game's still ongoing so can't say much.

[Unknown1234]

Slipping is generally bad. You can hit your head and get a concussion or even kill yourself.:calix:

I probably hit my head too many times.

[Unknown1234]

What does this refer to?
I didn't actually finish reading the other game you were in.

I'm just Teasing, nothing to blow your mind over.

[secondpassing]

Spruance get him.

[Unknown1234]

Spruance get him.

Do you Town-read Chess?

[ThePaladin]

Spruance get him.

I saw his name viewing, did he even post?

[ThePaladin]

Do you Town-read Chess?

To be fair the people who play chess tend to flip town.

[secondpassing]

Do you Town-read Chess?

I'm not even done reading, but yes. I'm guessing Spruance is playing a chess game.

[ThePaladin]

I'm not even done reading, but yes. I'm guessing Spruance is playing a chess game.

Spruance doesn't play chess.

He's :PJSalt:y about last game. Even though I literally found a town based on chess-reads by playing chess.

[secondpassing]

I saw his name viewing, did he even post?

Spruance posted exactly once. Let's get him.
I'm convinced he has received an red card.

[secondpassing]

What's your opinion of my actual serious Sheriff claim?


Probably true. RLVG Town. Can be ignored in our scum huntings.


Which is a decent point. But it's the whole fact that we don't know and that even if it isn't the case it will influence our reads and analysis. I'm not saying stop pressure, but just that it will be shittier than usual today.

TDL = town


So everyone should target someone at night to at least get some info on their role.
Then again, if multiple person target the same guy, it won't help.
Should we coordinate who start first?
Like (insert player name) and (insert second player name) choose a target tonight. everybody else do nothing.
Then we see what happen the next day and get info.

This is so bad. It's so bad it's Town.
And before you ask that question, the answer is "No".

Of course, everything is subject to change.
Also, please don't forget that Spruance is bad.



What I'm saying is the Asylum Director won't be able to help except if he reveal himself the next day, making him a target instantly.
Worst is, if a Doctor (If we have one) tries to heal him, we're not even sure it will work. We can't be sure the Doctor will be a real Doctor.
But maybe I'm thinking too far ahead here.

Just have everyone visit the Director. Probably going to be more prots than vig right?


So everyone should target someone at night to at least get some info on their role.
Then again, if multiple person target the same guy, it won't help.
Should we coordinate who start first?
Like (insert player name) and (insert second player name) choose a target tonight. everybody else do nothing.
Then we see what happen the next day and get info.

This is so bad. It's so bad it's Town.
And before you ask that question, the answer is "No".


Guys here's an idea.

We just do absolutely nothing for 5 days and nights straight.

By then all town will know their proper alignment.

Then we start playing this normally.

Even if cult isn't a lunatic they can only recruit a max of 3 each.
I know you're focusing on the lunatic mechanic, but this actually overlooks what the lunatic mechanic does.
Insane Towns will attempt to kill/disrupt. True sinisters will do the same.


Would you like to see firsthand?

lol


Yo dawg, I heard you like counters so I put counters in your counters so you can counter while countering.

That was super annoying.


you don't

Most pro-scum move


Remind me next time I say 100% confirmed.

Or hey, maybe drop the ego and actually scum-hunt opposed to dumbass slips?

I'm fine with either.

What's wrong with your attitude?

Can a Lunatic Town receive a town's rolecard? Can a Lunatic Sinister receive a sinister's card?

[secondpassing]

Spruance
get him.

[Unknown1234]

Spruance
get him.

Am I seeing this twice?

[ThePaladin]

Probably true. RLVG Town. Can be ignored in our scum huntings.



TDL = town



This is so bad. It's so bad it's Town.
And before you ask that question, the answer is "No".

Of course, everything is subject to change.
Also, please don't forget that Spruance is bad.




Just have everyone visit the Director. Probably going to be more prots than vig right?



This is so bad. It's so bad it's Town.
And before you ask that question, the answer is "No".


I know you're focusing on the lunatic mechanic, but this actually overlooks what the lunatic mechanic does.
Insane Towns will attempt to kill/disrupt. True sinisters will do the same.



lol



That was super annoying.



Most pro-scum move



What's wrong with your attitude?

Can a Lunatic Town receive a town's rolecard? Can a Lunatic Sinister receive a sinister's card?

yes I believe.

[Deathworlds Host]

Probably true. RLVG Town. Can be ignored in our scum huntings.



TDL = town



This is so bad. It's so bad it's Town.
And before you ask that question, the answer is "No".

Of course, everything is subject to change.
Also, please don't forget that Spruance is bad.




Just have everyone visit the Director. Probably going to be more prots than vig right?



This is so bad. It's so bad it's Town.
And before you ask that question, the answer is "No".


I know you're focusing on the lunatic mechanic, but this actually overlooks what the lunatic mechanic does.
Insane Towns will attempt to kill/disrupt. True sinisters will do the same.



lol



That was super annoying.



Most pro-scum move



What's wrong with your attitude?

Can a Lunatic Town receive a town's rolecard? Can a Lunatic Sinister receive a sinister's card?

Yes to both.

[ThePaladin]

Am I seeing this twice?

Yes because it is there twice.

[Unknown1234]

Yes because it is there twice.

Good, thought I was seeing things.

[Taekyon]

I'll join the pressure vote on spruance. (Not like we can do something else right now)
-vote Spruance

G'night.

P.S: Before you ask or point it out, my name will always appear as a current member browsing this thread.
I never close my browser page. Doesn't mean I'm here though.

[Unknown1234]

Hi.

[Unknown1234]

I'll join the pressure vote on spruance. (Not like we can do something else right now)
-vote Spruance

G'night.

P.S: Before you ask or point it out, my name will always appear as a current member browsing this thread.
I never close my browser page. Doesn't mean I'm here though.

When you just couldn't nail the vote, ^^^

[Gyrlander]

Pepperoni

[Iced_Monopoly]

Not only am I at a total loss as to how to begin in this setup (given how unpredictable its likely going to be), but my entire day has been consumed by Pokémon Go. Im not sure what I can contribute to d1, if anything at the moment

[yzb25]

Yo, just woke up and I'm catching up now. I'll post a few thoughts in an hour or so.

[yzb25]

What I'm saying is the Asylum Director won't be able to help except if he reveal himself the next day, making him a target instantly.
Worst is, if a Doctor (If we have one) tries to heal him, we're not even sure it will work. We can't be sure the Doctor will be a real Doctor.
But maybe I'm thinking too far ahead here.

tfw you meant to heal the crucial PR but accidentally shot him in the head as vigi.

#justinsanethings

[yzb25]

Even if your rolecard implies only one target, can you enter an extra target just in case?

RLVG is making a roleclaim and asking people to comment on it, even though he knows everything he's doing is completely neutral and there's no way to possibly discern his actions at this point in the game. GJ for subtle trolling, however:

I shall poop on that parade, good sir:

RLVG

Someone suggested not visiting anyone for a month while all our roles are confirmed, so we can revert the game to a normal forum mafia. I shall meaninglessly enter seven or eight extra targets tonight in protest to such a killjoy plan.

[GameFreak]

Have to agree with TDL here. All reads and pressure we have is basically null on D1.

This remind me of RLVGs game , you don't know what your win condition is so how can you try to read something when the other guy doesn't even know himself.

[yzb25]

Have to agree with TDL here. All reads and pressure we have is basically null on D1.

This remind me of RLVGs game , you don't know what your win condition is so how can you try to read something when the other guy doesn't even know himself.

You should probably go inactive for the rest of d1 if it's all for nothing then.

Bye :P

[Iced_Monopoly]

Asylum Counselor
At night you may check up on someone, they receive their true role and learn if they are a Lunatic
Upon your death, a random Lunatic Sinister learns his true role.

Is a lunatic sinister an insane with a fake sinister card, or a sinister with a fake insane/diff sinister card?

If this role is in the setup, then that confirms that there is at minimum 1 lunatic sinister in existence right, whichever of the above two that may be?

[Iced_Monopoly]

Il also be on pretty early in the morning, about 7.5 hours from now, so ill see what i can do for speculation tomorrow.

[Kovath]

Posts like this. People need to acknowledge it, which is what I've been waiting for.

Unfortunately, considering the paranoia mechanic, pressure I don't think is very good day one as reactions are likely to be wrong due to people potentially thinking they are of different alignment or running it through their head that they might not be what they received.

Pressure and reads today are going to be more useless than usual imo.


Have to agree with TDL here. All reads and pressure we have is basically null on D1.

This remind me of RLVGs game , you don't know what your win condition is so how can you try to read something when the other guy doesn't even know himself.

That's not really what TDL said. He was arguing that D1 stuff was -shittier- than usual, not that they are null reads... unless somehow those are equivalent? Either way: do you think we should still pressure and do reads today?

Yo Paladin: Explain more about these 'chess-reads' please.

[Taekyon]

When you just couldn't nail the vote, ^^^

Damn... lets try again.

-vote Spruance


Oh and good morning to all.
I'll be checking the forum sporadically today.

[Taekyon]

Been too long since I did that... had to check how the BB code work.
This time, no mistake!

Spruance

[ThePaladin]

That's not really what TDL said. He was arguing that D1 stuff was -shittier- than usual, not that they are null reads... unless somehow those are equivalent? Either way: do you think we should still pressure and do reads today?

Yo Paladin: Explain more about these 'chess-reads' please.

We havent played chess in this game tjerefore there are no chess reads

[ThePaladin]

You kniw, Aparently no one got whatvI was hinting atvin reference yo reads. I feel sad

[Unknown1234]

You kniw, Aparently no one got whatvI was hinting atvin reference yo reads. I feel sad

Sorry.

Taekyon your vote didn't count, shoulda pinged you sooner.

[Unknown1234]

Sorry.

Taekyon your vote didn't count, shoulda pinged you sooner.

Wait I'm stupid, you fixed it.

[secondpassing]

You kniw, Aparently no one got whatvI was hinting atvin reference yo reads. I feel sad
I would have played shogi to match our votes, but since we both want Spruance dead. I am now hesitant again.

I'll consider playing for fun if you switch the notation to kanji. Its easier to tell which piece it is then.

The lack of activity while I was asleep makes me think a lot of town received scum rolecards. That, or TDL bombed this day by his simple comment.

[ThePaladin]

I would have played shogi to match our votes, but since we both want Spruance dead. I am now hesitant again.

I'll consider playing for fun if you switch the notation to kanji. Its easier to tell which piece it is then.

The lack of activity while I was asleep makes me think a lot of town received scum rolecards. That, or TDL bombed this day by his simple comment.

Give mea bit to be at comp

[ThePaladin]

Umm do you want to use kanji for promoted pieces as well or just add a plus to the kanji?

[Kovath]

We havent played chess in this game tjerefore there are no chess reads

What I was curious about is how you use(d) chess to make reads, therefore it's not necessarily specific to this game.

[yzb25]

I would have played shogi to match our votes, but since we both want Spruance dead. I am now hesitant again.

I'll consider playing for fun if you switch the notation to kanji. Its easier to tell which piece it is then.

The lack of activity while I was asleep makes me think a lot of town received scum rolecards. That, or TDL bombed this day by his simple comment.

The drop in activity is really odd.

It's not like there's nothing to talk about.

Pressure voting is a good idea at this time.

[RLVG]

We havent played chess in this game tjerefore there are no chess reads

Checkers, yo.


Even if your rolecard implies only one target, can you enter an extra target just in case?

RLVG is making a roleclaim and asking people to comment on it, even though he knows everything he's doing is completely neutral and there's no way to possibly discern his actions at this point in the game. GJ for subtle trolling, however:

I shall poop on that parade, good sir:

RLVG

Someone suggested not visiting anyone for a month while all our roles are confirmed, so we can revert the game to a normal forum mafia. I shall meaninglessly enter seven or eight extra targets tonight in protest to such a killjoy plan.

The fuck have you been smoking? I want it because you're correct on my neutral act. :TriHard:
Trolling or non trolling, my claim is serious lol.


Not only am I at a total loss as to how to begin in this setup (given how unpredictable its likely going to be), but my entire day has been consumed by Pokémon Go. Im not sure what I can contribute to d1, if anything at the moment

Yo, can your team beat my OP Nidoking?


Spruance doesn't play chess.

He's :PJSalt:y about last game. Even though I literally found a town based on chess-reads by playing chess.

This time it's Chess, and next time we might go for a round of Monopoly.


Just got here.
Current thought is how happy I am to be in a game with ThePaladin and Iced_Monopoly at the same time.
(and yzb25)

What did I ever do wrong? :sad:


Guys here's an idea.

We just do absolutely nothing for 5 days and nights straight.

By then all town will know their proper alignment.

Then we start playing this normally.

Even if cult isn't a lunatic they can only recruit a max of 3 each.

AFK doing Skyrim 100%.


For the sake of this situation not happening, all players should be capable of targeting someone else at night.

-TARGET deathworlds


Poor SK not being able to kill anyone.

RANDOM DOT ORG, YO


inb4 there are actually 0 lunatics.

:Keepo: Then I'm fucking dead. :Keepo:


Nice non-cult slip RLVG

Well Played

:troll:

Well fuck.


AH BUT YOU FORGET.

THE POWER OF OUR CAMARADERIE

I've only played through 4 but have seen 1,2,3. d2.
What's weird is that they actually added some stuff(story wise) to ending of d4 in psvita version.

I recommend playing 1, 2 and 3. D2 wasn't the best.
You should also check out "Makai Kingdom" and "The Unlosing Ranger VS Darkdeath Evilman".





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[RLVG]

You know, this is a silly thought.

What if I'm a Lunatic Scum who got the Fake Rolecard Insane Sheriff provided with the Fake Rolecard: Normal Sheriff? :troll:
Is this possible?




Sheriff
At night you may check someone, learning if they are Scum or Town.

Insane Sheriff
At night you may check someone, learning if they are Scum or Town.
Your feedback is reversed.
You receive the Sheriff rolecard.

[RLVG]

What if I'm a Lunatic Scum who got the Fake Rolecard Insane Sheriff provided with the Fake Rolecard: Normal Sheriff? :troll:
Is this possible?

The reason of the question is because of the Investigator.

Investigator
At night you may check someone, 50% chance of receiving citizen, 25% chance of receiving true role, 25% chance of receiving the role that they receive.

[deathworlds]

You know, this is a silly thought.

What if I'm a Lunatic Scum who got the Fake Rolecard Insane Sheriff provided with the Fake Rolecard: Normal Sheriff? :troll:
Is this possible?




Sheriff
At night you may check someone, learning if they are Scum or Town.

Insane Sheriff
At night you may check someone, learning if they are Scum or Town.
Your feedback is reversed.
You receive the Sheriff rolecard.

Yes

[RLVG]

Yes

Inb4 I'm actually a Lunatic Scum -> Insane Sheriff -> Sheriff and I deserve MVP for this random guess being correct.

[ThePaladin]

What I was curious about is how you use(d) chess to make reads, therefore it's not necessarily specific to this game.

A)Both players have to wager something and/or you carry on a serious discussion relevant to some other contest/game/result of two players.

B)You have to look at stratagems and responses or lack there-of to show where their concentration lies.

C)If the player plays to win and if so to what degree.


Wow this is hard to put into words that makes sense.
Can't really find out how to word what I'm trying to say for point B.


EXPLAIN HOW CHESS READS WORK RLVG.



http://i.imgur.com/uqBKq14.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZjfS4hb.jpg


Care for a game?

http://i.imgur.com/zRh7hA0.jpg

[ThePaladin]

Inb4 I'm actually a Lunatic Scum -> Insane Sheriff -> Sheriff and I deserve MVP for this random guess being correct.

I deserve mvp if there are no lunatics, then.

You know what's going to happen.

The scum are going to accidentally win by thinking they are town faction or something stupid.

Will different kills Vigi,sk, etc. be shown as different in night/day end posts?

[deathworlds]

I deserve mvp if there are no lunatics, then.

You know what's going to happen.

The scum are going to accidentally win by thinking they are town faction or something stupid.

Will different kills Vigi,sk, etc. be shown as different in night/day end posts?

No.

[ThePaladin]

No.


SO MUCH FOR NARROWING DOWN THAT WAY.

[secondpassing]

Umm do you want to use kanji for promoted pieces as well or just add a plus to the kanji?
Adding a plus is fine. I'm not at a computer, so our match will need to wait till tonight or something.

[Spruance]

In b4 L-1

[Spruance]

Since we all might as well be insane why not play the part?

secondpassing

I don't trust him for blind voting me.

[Kovath]

In b4 L-1

If you're talking about yourself, you're at L-4 right now.

Why "inb4"?

[secondpassing]

"What did I ever do wrong. :sad:" -RLVG
Nothing. I just don't get you.


Just like I don't get Kovath. He corrected me without invoking his credentials in S-FM World of Music (even if he had really good credentials). You were super awesome for that.
Iced_Monopoly have you ever been day 1 lynched yet?

[ThePaladin]

Adding a plus is fine. I'm not at a computer, so our match will need to wait till tonight or something.
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Here's the current board I have.

[yzb25]

Shouty caps are a necessary evil in this scenario.

Guys, for the love of god, Gamefreak read approximately 120 posts, and had absolutely no thoughts to give. Then he mistook someone THEORIZING "reads would be less useful on d1" for ASSERTING "d1 is useless" and then, after another 40 posts, made THIS SHIT BELOW his FIRST and LAST post:


Have to agree with TDL here. All reads and pressure we have is basically null on D1.

This remind me of RLVGs game , you don't know what your win condition is so how can you try to read something when the other guy doesn't even know himself.

"Well guys I think town should conclude there is nothing to conclude and consign d1 to the bin, because uncertainty exists!"

I then ironically took what he said to its logical conclusion and said "lol piss off then" AND HE ACTUALLY DID IT. HE SAW MY POST, AND ACTUALLY PISSED OFF.

Let me say it like this:

IF YOU GET A SCUM ROLECARD, YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY LIKE SCUM, BECAUSE YOU ARE PROBABLY SCUM, AND PLAYING LIKE TOWN WOULD BE RETARDED

IF YOU GET A TOWN ROLECARD, YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY LIKE TOWN, BECAUSE YOU ARE PROBABLY TOWN, AND PLAYING LIKE SCUM WOULD BE RETARDED

YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY MORE CAREFUL, BECAUSE THERE'S ROUGHLY A 2/13 CHANCE LIKELY YOU'RE NOT THE ALIGNMENT YOU THINK YOU ARE, BUT CAREFUL PLAY =/= NO PLAY.

But this is besides the point - regardless of whether the opinion is actually valid, GAMEFREAK HAS OBVIOUSLY JUST HIJACKED THIS OPINION AS AN EXCUSE TO LURK, MAKING THIS SHITTY, DEFEATIST ATTITUDE HIS FIRST AND LAST POST.

and the only attention this has gotten is Kovath saying "huh that's not really correct... y'know?"

PRESSURE LYNCH HIM!!! PRESSURE LYNCH HIM BEFORE MY AUTISM LEVELS EXCEED CRITICAL MASS!!!

GameFreak

[ThePaladin]

Everyone has posted at least once correct?

Also do you guys want to just do nothing for 5 days/nights then play this game properly?

[ThePaladin]

Unless Deathworlds Host was literally the most troll possible with the roles he gave out[no lunatics]

We can probably assume nearly everyone is a lunatic or the asylum staff roles would be very dumb.

Are we allowed to know the methodology[random vs picked] on the lunatics and roles in general?

[ThePaladin]

It would also make sense to have a least one sheriff who is actually an insane sheriff or vice-versa. Or host could just be trolly.

[TheDarkestLight]

Shouty caps are a necessary evil in this scenario.

Guys, for the love of god, Gamefreak read approximately 120 posts, and had absolutely no thoughts to give. Then he mistook someone THEORIZING "reads would be less useful on d1" for ASSERTING "d1 is useless" and then, after another 40 posts, made THIS SHIT BELOW his FIRST and LAST post:



"Well guys I think town should conclude there is nothing to conclude and consign d1 to the bin, because uncertainty exists!"

I then ironically took what he said to its logical conclusion and said "lol piss off then" AND HE ACTUALLY DID IT. HE SAW MY POST, AND ACTUALLY PISSED OFF.

Let me say it like this:

IF YOU GET A SCUM ROLECARD, YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY LIKE SCUM, BECAUSE YOU ARE PROBABLY SCUM, AND PLAYING LIKE TOWN WOULD BE RETARDED

IF YOU GET A TOWN ROLECARD, YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY LIKE TOWN, BECAUSE YOU ARE PROBABLY TOWN, AND PLAYING LIKE SCUM WOULD BE RETARDED

YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY MORE CAREFUL, BECAUSE THERE'S ROUGHLY A 2/13 CHANCE LIKELY YOU'RE NOT THE ALIGNMENT YOU THINK YOU ARE, BUT CAREFUL PLAY =/= NO PLAY.

But this is besides the point - regardless of whether the opinion is actually valid, GAMEFREAK HAS OBVIOUSLY JUST HIJACKED THIS OPINION AS AN EXCUSE TO LURK, MAKING THIS SHITTY, DEFEATIST ATTITUDE HIS FIRST AND LAST POST.

and the only attention this has gotten is Kovath saying "huh that's not really correct... y'know?"

PRESSURE LYNCH HIM!!! PRESSURE LYNCH HIM BEFORE MY AUTISM LEVELS EXCEED CRITICAL MASS!!!

GameFreak

I don't fully agree with the chance and the "probably" ideas. We simply don't know.

I do agree on Gamefreak seeming very interesting for it.

GameFreak

Good catch.

[Spruance]

If you're talking about yourself, you're at L-4 right now.

Why "inb4"?

It was a joke about how I may be lynched while nothing I say about it would matter.

[ThePaladin]

Shouty caps are a necessary evil in this scenario.

Guys, for the love of god, Gamefreak read approximately 120 posts, and had absolutely no thoughts to give. Then he mistook someone THEORIZING "reads would be less useful on d1" for ASSERTING "d1 is useless" and then, after another 40 posts, made THIS SHIT BELOW his FIRST and LAST post:



"Well guys I think town should conclude there is nothing to conclude and consign d1 to the bin, because uncertainty exists!"

I then ironically took what he said to its logical conclusion and said "lol piss off then" AND HE ACTUALLY DID IT. HE SAW MY POST, AND ACTUALLY PISSED OFF.

Let me say it like this:

IF YOU GET A SCUM ROLECARD, YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY LIKE SCUM, BECAUSE YOU ARE PROBABLY SCUM, AND PLAYING LIKE TOWN WOULD BE RETARDED

IF YOU GET A TOWN ROLECARD, YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY LIKE TOWN, BECAUSE YOU ARE PROBABLY TOWN, AND PLAYING LIKE SCUM WOULD BE RETARDED

YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY MORE CAREFUL, BECAUSE THERE'S ROUGHLY A 2/13 CHANCE LIKELY YOU'RE NOT THE ALIGNMENT YOU THINK YOU ARE, BUT CAREFUL PLAY =/= NO PLAY.

But this is besides the point - regardless of whether the opinion is actually valid, GAMEFREAK HAS OBVIOUSLY JUST HIJACKED THIS OPINION AS AN EXCUSE TO LURK, MAKING THIS SHITTY, DEFEATIST ATTITUDE HIS FIRST AND LAST POST.

and the only attention this has gotten is Kovath saying "huh that's not really correct... y'know?"

PRESSURE LYNCH HIM!!! PRESSURE LYNCH HIM BEFORE MY AUTISM LEVELS EXCEED CRITICAL MASS!!!

GameFreak

Actually for every player, the chance you aren't the allignment you think you are is about 50%[ your alignment vs another alignment]

Percentage is probably about 10% to be any specific allignment for everyone regardless of the role they recieved.


You are looking at the whole list of players which doesn't apply for EACH player's allignment. Cause we have no way of knowing and stuff.

For all we know all the any randoms are scum as well, so there may be 5 sinisters-8town.

Not to mention how weird culting is going to work with this.

[ThePaladin]

Host mind adding a countdown timer to start-post?





If host doesn't here's this slightly off[few seconds] timer.

02:01:43:00

[RLVG]

"What did I ever do wrong. :sad:" -RLVG
Nothing. I just don't get you.

You can do an AMA. :love:



Actually for every player, the chance you aren't the allignment you think you are is about 50%[ your alignment vs another alignment]

Percentage is probably about 10% to be any specific allignment for everyone regardless of the role they recieved.


You are looking at the whole list of players which doesn't apply for EACH player's allignment. Cause we have no way of knowing and stuff.

For all we know all the any randoms are scum as well, so there may be 5 sinisters-8town.

Not to mention how weird culting is going to work with this.

Don't forget that there was be 5 scum who might think they're Town, making it circle around to 0 sinisters-13town. :troll:

Also, you're missing out Checkers. Last page had Round 15.

[Kovath]

"What did I ever do wrong. :sad:" -RLVG
Nothing. I just don't get you.


Just like I don't get Kovath. He corrected me without invoking his credentials in S-FM World of Music (even if he had really good credentials). You were super awesome for that.
@Iced_Monopoly (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=18974) have you ever been day 1 lynched yet?

Don't quite get the WoM reference you're doing with me here, but I don't think you're using it to refer to the current game, and thanks for the compliment on my play! (assuming I'm understanding you somewhat). Could still use a bit of an explanation though.


Shouty caps are a necessary evil in this scenario.

Guys, for the love of god, Gamefreak read approximately 120 posts, and had absolutely no thoughts to give. Then he mistook someone THEORIZING "reads would be less useful on d1" for ASSERTING "d1 is useless" and then, after another 40 posts, made THIS SHIT BELOW his FIRST and LAST post:



"Well guys I think town should conclude there is nothing to conclude and consign d1 to the bin, because uncertainty exists!"

I then ironically took what he said to its logical conclusion and said "lol piss off then" AND HE ACTUALLY DID IT. HE SAW MY POST, AND ACTUALLY PISSED OFF.

Let me say it like this:

IF YOU GET A SCUM ROLECARD, YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY LIKE SCUM, BECAUSE YOU ARE PROBABLY SCUM, AND PLAYING LIKE TOWN WOULD BE RETARDED

IF YOU GET A TOWN ROLECARD, YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY LIKE TOWN, BECAUSE YOU ARE PROBABLY TOWN, AND PLAYING LIKE SCUM WOULD BE RETARDED

YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY MORE CAREFUL, BECAUSE THERE'S ROUGHLY A 2/13 CHANCE LIKELY YOU'RE NOT THE ALIGNMENT YOU THINK YOU ARE, BUT CAREFUL PLAY =/= NO PLAY.

But this is besides the point - regardless of whether the opinion is actually valid, GAMEFREAK HAS OBVIOUSLY JUST HIJACKED THIS OPINION AS AN EXCUSE TO LURK, MAKING THIS SHITTY, DEFEATIST ATTITUDE HIS FIRST AND LAST POST.

and the only attention this has gotten is Kovath saying "huh that's not really correct... y'know?"

PRESSURE LYNCH HIM!!! PRESSURE LYNCH HIM BEFORE MY AUTISM LEVELS EXCEED CRITICAL MASS!!!

GameFreak

You seem to be deliberately inflating the size of your reaction and the amount of pressure you want to apply, as evidenced by your first line about caps being a "necessary evil." Do you really think he'd be that transparent? Why are you basically shouting?


Everyone has posted at least once correct?

Also do you guys want to just do nothing for 5 days/nights then play this game properly?

Properly playing the game, as the host intended, would not entail waiting until the Lunatic mechanic became a non-factor lol. So let's put this suggestion to rest as doing so would go against the spirit of the game.


It was a joke about how I may be lynched while nothing I say about it would matter.

So a joke about your potential lynch where you were apparently unable to defend yourself is the only contribution you could offer?

[yzb25]

Actually for every player, the chance you aren't the allignment you think you are is about 50%[ your alignment vs another alignment]

Percentage is probably about 10% to be any specific allignment for everyone regardless of the role they recieved.


You are looking at the whole list of players which doesn't apply for EACH player's allignment. Cause we have no way of knowing and stuff.

For all we know all the any randoms are scum as well, so there may be 5 sinisters-8town.

Not to mention how weird culting is going to work with this.

Those are some wacky ass numbers good sir. I would like to see a breakdown of how you got them.

This is still besides the point tho, as GF is obviously using this sheeping as an excuse not to bloody talk. After 160 posts his only response was "yipee I don't have to risk slipping today, summer holiday for scum!"

I just wanna give him some summer school tho, he deserves education <3

Tl;dr if you don't pressure vote with me you wish to destroy public education.

[ThePaladin]

I recommend playing 1, 2 and 3. D2 wasn't the best.
You should also check out "Makai Kingdom" and "The Unlosing Ranger VS Darkdeath Evilman".




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My problem is the only sony console I have is a psvita and I think all the games are on Playstation right?


Yes

Wait a second this guy isn't the host. Why he is using bold white text. Smite him!

[ThePaladin]

Don't quite get the WoM reference you're doing with me here, but I don't think you're using it to refer to the current game, and thanks for the compliment on my play! (assuming I'm understanding you somewhat). Could still use a bit of an explanation though.



You seem to be deliberately inflating the size of your reaction and the amount of pressure you want to apply, as evidenced by your first line about caps being a "necessary evil." Do you really think he'd be that transparent? Why are you basically shouting?



Properly playing the game, as the host intended, would not entail waiting until the Lunatic mechanic became a non-factor lol. So let's put this suggestion to rest as doing so would go against the spirit of the game.



So a joke about your potential lynch where you were apparently unable to defend yourself is the only contribution you could offer?

Hey, host made this possible by saying we can no lynch on every day.

It's fully intended! Host is clearly just seeing if we play smart or not.

DONT YOU SEE ITS A PLOT BY THE ORGANIZATION.

THEY ARE TRYING TO ANALYZE OUR PSYCHOLOGICAL BEHAVIOURS

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Also cap's don't really make your point more readable yzb25.

It just hurts the eyes

[yzb25]

You seem to be deliberately inflating the size of your reaction and the amount of pressure you want to apply, as evidenced by your first line about caps being a "necessary evil." Do you really think he'd be that transparent? Why are you basically shouting?


I'm not sure what you mean by "that transparent", I didn't see the post as transparent at all. He just gave an excuse to leave and left.

The hyperbole has deep strategic reasons and is by no means a knee-jerk emotional response. Just trust me on that one.

[yzb25]

Hey, host made this possible by saying we can no lynch on every day.

It's fully intended! Host is clearly just seeing if we play smart or not.

DONT YOU SEE ITS A PLOT BY THE ORGANIZATION.

THEY ARE TRYING TO ANALYZE OUR PSYCHOLOGICAL BEHAVIOURS

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Also cap's don't really make your point more readable yzb25.

It just hurts the eyes

STOP DISSING MY CAPS LOCK IT'S NEGLECTED FAR TOO OFTEN

[Kovath]

I'm not sure what you mean by "that transparent", I didn't see the post as transparent at all. He just gave an excuse to leave and left.

The hyperbole has deep strategic reasons and is by no means a knee-jerk emotional response. Just trust me on that one.

So, my question was related to connecting your certainty over your analysis about whether GF would be that transparent as scum to just up and leave, with how 'forceful' you were being in your post. Do I think it's suspicious behavior from GF? Yeah, as you noted I was the one who originally pointed out a discrepancy in his representation of TDL's point, and you ended up basically jumping off of that to your own analysis.

Basically, you're right in thinking that I'm asking after these "deep strategic reasons" because unless I know them, I can only work with the knowledge that you deliberately inflated your conviction in your argument, and I have to reach my own conclusion as to why.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Host missed my earlier questions or purposefully ignored them...?

[Unknown1234]

Unknown1234 (1 [L-6]):
Kovath
Spruance (3 [L-4]):
ThePaladin, secondpassing, Taekyon
RLVG (1 [L-6]):
Gyrlander
ThePaladin (2 [L-5]):
Iced_Monopoly, Eggy
Gyrlander (1 [L-6]):
RLVG
GameFreak (2 [L-5]):
yzb25, TheDarkestLight
Chess (1 [L-6]):
Unknown1234
secondpassing (1 [L-6]):
Spruance

[Unknown1234]

Host missed my earlier questions or purposefully ignored them...?

Use the Ping Function dude.

[RLVG]

I'm not sure what you mean by "that transparent", I didn't see the post as transparent at all. He just gave an excuse to leave and left.

The hyperbole has deep strategic reasons and is by no means a knee-jerk emotional response. Just trust me on that one.

I don't trust you. :calix:


STOP DISSING MY CAPS LOCK IT'S NEGLECTED FAR TOO OFTEN

STOP SHOUTING FOR CHRIST SAKE


My problem is the only sony console I have is a psvita and I think all the games are on Playstation right?



Wait a second this guy isn't the host. Why he is using bold white text. Smite him!

Get a PS3 and PS4 you noob.





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[Iced_Monopoly]

Use the Ping Function dude.

Nobody else has been doing this consistently, and reposting from my phone is a pain

[Spruance]

Since none of us know if we are actually scum or not what does scum reading someone even mean?

[ThePaladin]

Inb4 I'm actually a Lunatic Scum -> Insane Sheriff -> Sheriff and I deserve MVP for this random guess being correct.

I mean we can lynch you and find out if you are claiming scum....

[ThePaladin]

Is a lunatic sinister an insane with a fake sinister card, or a sinister with a fake insane/diff sinister card?

If this role is in the setup, then that confirms that there is at minimum 1 lunatic sinister in existence right, whichever of the above two that may be?

Deathworlds Host

The answer to your first question is sinister with a fake roelcard i believe

[ThePaladin]

-Nice guy Mad Scientist Hououin Kyouma

[yzb25]

So, my question was related to connecting your certainty over your analysis about whether GF would be that transparent as scum to just up and leave, with how 'forceful' you were being in your post. Do I think it's suspicious behavior from GF? Yeah, as you noted I was the one who originally pointed out a discrepancy in his representation of TDL's point, and you ended up basically jumping off of that to your own analysis.

Basically, you're right in thinking that I'm asking after these "deep strategic reasons" because unless I know them, I can only work with the knowledge that you deliberately inflated your conviction in your argument, and I have to reach my own conclusion as to why.

This kind of probing isn't beneficial, but if you're asking so sincerely I can't refuse you.

I am deliberately being obnoxious and expressive to draw attention to a suspicious play. Even if I'm so provocative this backfires and I get pressure-voted instead, that is still more beneficial than a completely docile town. This game is 24 hours in, I felt like there was a chance GF would delay responding to you only to give you the greyest answer possible with 2 hours left of d1, or the questioning would make slow progress, so I did what I did.

I am obviously not certain he is scum, but I am certain his behaviour is suspicious, and I am certain he is using an excuse to be docile. Maybe he's a lazy town, sure. But lazy towns should still be pressure voted - it forces them to interact. Note, I want pressure-lynch. I'm not trying to get a chaos lynch, I just want that bastard on l-3/l-2.

Now I invite you to indulge in caps lock with me Kovath. Just the shift, just to know how it feels.

[ThePaladin]

This kind of probing isn't beneficial, but if you're asking so sincerely I can't refuse you.

I am deliberately being obnoxious and expressive to draw attention to a suspicious play. Even if I'm so provocative this backfires and I get pressure-voted instead, that is still more beneficial than a completely docile town. This game is 24 hours in, I felt like there was a chance GF would delay responding to you only to give you the greyest answer possible with 2 hours left of d1, or the questioning would make slow progress, so I did what I did.

I am obviously not certain he is scum, but I am certain his behaviour is suspicious, and I am certain he is using an excuse to be docile. Maybe he's a lazy town, sure. But lazy towns should still be pressure voted - it forces them to interact. Note, I want pressure-lynch. I'm not trying to get a chaos lynch, I just want that bastard on l-3/l-2.

Now I invite you to indulge in caps lock with me Kovath. Just the shift, just to know how it feels.

U WOT M8[/COLOR]]
http://i.imgur.com/MpfO0ND.gif


Isn't this about DW's meta?

I haven't played for a while so i don't recall if he has a spruance-meta.

[ThePaladin]

U WOT M8[/COLOR]]
http://i.imgur.com/MpfO0ND.gif


Isn't this about GameFreaks's meta?

I haven't played for a while so i don't recall if he has a spruance-meta.

Point still applies got names mixed up, fixed*

[Kovath]

This kind of probing isn't beneficial, but if you're asking so sincerely I can't refuse you.

I am deliberately being obnoxious and expressive to draw attention to a suspicious play. Even if I'm so provocative this backfires and I get pressure-voted instead, that is still more beneficial than a completely docile town. This game is 24 hours in, I felt like there was a chance GF would delay responding to you only to give you the greyest answer possible with 2 hours left of d1, or the questioning would make slow progress, so I did what I did.

I am obviously not certain he is scum, but I am certain his behaviour is suspicious, and I am certain he is using an excuse to be docile. Maybe he's a lazy town, sure. But lazy towns should still be pressure voted - it forces them to interact. Note, I want pressure-lynch. I'm not trying to get a chaos lynch, I just want that bastard on l-3/l-2.

Now I invite you to indulge in caps lock with me Kovath. Just the shift, just to know how it feels.

Probing for motivation isn't beneficial? And if you really didn't think it was in the interest of your play to admit your reasoning, I'm surprised "asking sincerely" is what made you say more...

Also, your reasoning isn't really convincing to me as something you'd want to keep hidden, as admitting it doesn't hamper drawing attention to GameFreak (in fact, I think you could have done without the expressive tone originally - let your argument stand on itself), and hiding it for too long would just detract town attention. Then again, that might be why you decided to relent so easily in answering.

I don't see enough scum motivation in how you've handled it thus far to press you further on this, and I agree with your original point, so...

GameFreak

[ThePaladin]

I don't trust you. :calix:



STOP SHOUTING FOR CHRIST SAKE



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[Kovath]

Point still applies got names mixed up, fixed*

What do you mean?

If you want to use meta, to persuade me you'll need to explain it more. I put little stock in meta anyway.

[ThePaladin]

Huh, in this setup bussing/buddying is impossible on d1.

[ThePaladin]

What do you mean?

If you want to use meta, to persuade me you'll need to explain it more. I put little stock in meta anyway.

Well I meant he said his behaviour was "suspicious" as opposed to scummy.

His meta is generally scummy, but what makes him trying to pop in and out and agreeing "suspicious" as opposed to just being standard scummy. I don't see how doing the thing you always do as being suspicious.

[Taekyon]

This kind of probing isn't beneficial, but if you're asking so sincerely I can't refuse you.

I am deliberately being obnoxious and expressive to draw attention to a suspicious play. Even if I'm so provocative this backfires and I get pressure-voted instead, that is still more beneficial than a completely docile town. This game is 24 hours in, I felt like there was a chance GF would delay responding to you only to give you the greyest answer possible with 2 hours left of d1, or the questioning would make slow progress, so I did what I did.

I am obviously not certain he is scum, but I am certain his behaviour is suspicious, and I am certain he is using an excuse to be docile. Maybe he's a lazy town, sure. But lazy towns should still be pressure voted - it forces them to interact. Note, I want pressure-lynch. I'm not trying to get a chaos lynch, I just want that bastard on l-3/l-2.

Now I invite you to indulge in caps lock with me Kovath. Just the shift, just to know how it feels.


I can help on the pressure if needed.
Still keeping an eye on Spruance though.

Also, I understand that making a move is important but I really think that we won't do any good until we wait for the first night.
I'm not saying we shouldn't lynch, I'm saying it's risky.
We got ~84% chance of lynching an Insane (Assuming all the hidden any are Insane)
We got ~61% chance of lynching an Insane (Assuming all the hidden any are Sinister)

[ThePaladin]

I can help on the pressure if needed.
Still keeping an eye on Spruance though.

Also, I understand that making a move is important but I really think that we won't do any good until we wait for the first night.
I'm not saying we shouldn't lynch, I'm saying it's risky.
We got ~84% chance of lynching an Insane (Assuming all the hidden any are Insane)
We got ~61% chance of lynching an Insane (Assuming all the hidden any are Sinister)

Why do we lynch vs no lynch on d1 1101.

Town almost always has a 75% chance of being lynched since its mostly random[even given reads] for d1 lynching.

[ThePaladin]

Either we need to lynch every day or we need to do nothing for 5 days.

I don't really see how doing anything in between is optimal.

[Taekyon]

Why do we lynch vs no lynch on d1 1101.

Town almost always has a 75% chance of being lynched since its mostly random[even given reads] for d1 lynching.

And we end up lynching a someone that thought he was a Sinister, played like a Sinister but was a Insane.
We can't use the usual: "this guy is lurking" or "This seems suspicious"

[RLVG]

Either we need to lynch every day or we need to do nothing for 5 days.

I don't really see how doing anything in between is optimal.

The only flaw to this idea is if someone knows they're a scum killer and goes to kill while all TPR does nothing.


Huh, in this setup bussing/buddying is impossible on d1.

LIAR

ThePaladin


Too busy on spending money on other things than to put that towards a ps4.



True, PC Master Race yo.

Shouldn't be too expensive with an used PS3 though.





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[Unknown1234]

I think the only fair way to lynch someone today is to lynch the loser of the checker game.

[Unknown1234]

unvote

[ThePaladin]

The only flaw to this idea is if someone knows they're a scum killer and goes to kill while all TPR does nothing.



LIAR

ThePaladin



True, PC Master Race yo.

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How is bussing/buddying not impossible?

All scum factions only start out with 1 person as well as masons.

YOU Know if we see a guy die we could assume let's scrap this idea starting that day right?





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[ThePaladin]

I think the only fair way to lynch someone today is to lynch the loser of the checker game.

Naaa you can't get reads from checkers really.

We need to have a chess/shogi tournament.

:P

[ThePaladin]

How is bussing/buddying not impossible?

All scum factions only start out with 1 person as well as masons.

YOU Know if we see a guy die we could assume let's scrap this idea starting that day right?





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Hidden Any:

Occult Leader

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Cult Leader

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Jester King

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Serial Killer

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Witch

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Mass Murderer

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Ritual Killer

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Executioner

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Insane Sheriff

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Veteran

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Bus Driver

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Investigator

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Citizen





Name 2 roles of the same faction that know who each other are [so don't name like vigi and veteran[ in this RLVG.

[RLVG]

How is bussing/buddying not impossible?

All scum factions only start out with 1 person as well as masons.

YOU Know if we see a guy die we could assume let's scrap this idea starting that day right?


As stupid as it sound, those who think they are scum might look for different reads and buddy them in hope of finding their scumbuddy.

And sure, we can do that.





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[ThePaladin]

As stupid as it sound, those who think they are scum might look for different reads and buddy them in hope of finding their scumbuddy.

And sure, we can do that.





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I can barely make sense of this .

Are you saying a guy who thinks he is scum is going to buddy to another scum faction so that when that scum faction recruits they know who they recruited... WTF IS THIS







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[ThePaladin]

I can't understand how that concept works since that would require scum to buddy scum to buddy their scum recruit on d2... what?

[RLVG]

I can barely make sense of this .

Are you saying a guy who thinks he is scum is going to buddy to another scum faction so that when that scum faction recruits they know who they recruited... WTF IS THIS



I can't understand how that concept works since that would require scum to buddy scum to buddy their scum recruit on d2... what?

:troll: S-FM 204 Insanity :troll:

If there's several scum of the same faction, they might be able to buddy up or bus with their potential partners based on their reads.






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:troll: S-FM 204 Insanity :troll:

If there's several scum of the same faction, they might be able to buddy up or bus with their potential partners based on their reads.






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Also they don't have partners on d1?

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[RLVG]

Are you saying they'd buddy or bus whoever they would convert?

Yes.





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[secondpassing]

Nobody else has been doing this consistently, and reposting from my phone is a pain Iced_Monopoly Have you ever been lynched day 1?

[Unknown1234]

Iced_Monopoly Have you ever been lynched day 1?

Challenge Pending...

[secondpassing]

I can help on the pressure if needed.
Still keeping an eye on Spruance though.

Also, I understand that making a move is important but I really think that we won't do any good until we wait for the first night.
I'm not saying we shouldn't lynch, I'm saying it's risky.
We got ~84% chance of lynching an Insane (Assuming all the hidden any are Insane)
We got ~61% chance of lynching an Insane (Assuming all the hidden any are Sinister)
After I voted and went to sleep, I noticed multiple people act in a way that tells me they think they are sick but are trying to hide it.

I am in support of this Gamefreak train; however, I am still in more support for a Spruance lynch or an Iced_Monopoly pressure.