Baratheon Night One Chat

[Forum Mafia GM]

Chat will open once night begins.

[Jayden]

Hey guys. What's up?

[Jayden]

Tyrion Lannister: Is there any way for a night chat to be read / infiltrated in this game? For example, if a Disguiser from the Lannisters targets one of us, would that Disguiser gain access to our night chat?

[Lucas]

Hey all,
Things I want to talk about,

This my first time playing a Mafia role, so tips would be great. I also don't know if I want to poison my own reads as consistency between days is part of the key to defense?

Would it be wise to use disguiser early?

We can play up tailor confusion if we write up last wills accordingly.

What do you think of me claiming nurse? Half heal half block,

Assassinate is something that the town will know instant Mafia, right? But is there a fail safe we can come up with in case the assassin isn't around.

Also, I suppose I should come up with who I think is what huh?

Looking forward to playing with you gents and ladies

[Lucas]

And winning lololol

[Jayden]

Assassinate gives the same feedback as a Sword given from a Blacksmith, so that's one way around it.

But yes, in general only Lannisters and Baratheons get Assassins, so I would pretty much kill myself by doing it during day unless we had majority (or we + Starks + Martells had majority, so that a train would not likely succeed on me).

[Jayden]

Lucas, are you the Whore or the Disguiser? Want to be sure about the infiltrate thing before we start using actual account names.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Tyrion Lannister: Is there any way for a night chat to be read / infiltrated in this game? For example, if a Disguiser from the Lannisters targets one of us, would that Disguiser gain access to our night chat?

Nope, Night chat cannot be infiltrated in any way.

[Jayden]

I'm the Assassin.

Both of you guys are getting a lot of attention as scum. The Whore is doing better than the Disguiser, which is good since the Disguiser can always jump away if the heat gets too intense.

I would say you need to have solid reads and be very consistent (though not to the point of being stubborn). Don't be afraid of being part of a lynch train or to be opinionated. People think that anyone who posts a lot, is aggressive, and isn't afraid of making enemies is town; that's worked to my advantage really well today. I basically just went after everyone who replied to me, and I feel like a good chunk of the players town read me for it. There's only one who really pushed back, but after that lynch he won't be an issue.

My plan for tomorrow is to push really hard on Tango. If Tango flips any type of scum faction, the person who was arguing with me today will be easy to get lynched.

We should also try to kill a Lannister tonight. I want to weaken the Lannisters as quickly as possible without eliminating them (to keep the KPN high). The Tyrells are basically townies in terms of the roles they have available. If we can kill a Lannister tonight and get either a Targ or Tyrell lynched tomorrow, I will be feeling pretty good about our chances.

We also need to find the Starks and Martells quickly and ally them. They won't be able to win together, but as long as they both understand that we stand with them, they won't bother us. We can side with the winner in that fight as we get closer to end game.

Also, I should do our killing. I don't have a night action to begin with, and I cannot be detected by Lookout style roles. So I'm basically a perfectly invisible Citizen as far as anyone else in the game is concerned. I will play that role pretty well, since I've been Citizen in almost every other FM I've done on this site.

[Jayden]

Nope, Night chat cannot be infiltrated in any way.

Awesome, okay then I am Yankee.

India is in big trouble in terms of everyone scum reading him.

Whiskey, you didn't do yourself any favors by pushing to lynch on a no show. Sorry that I had to scum read you in day chat, but I absolutely cannot look like I am buddying either of you. I'm totally fine with you guys pushing back on me in day chat. The most important thing is to simply always have a better target than each other, even if we're forced to publicly say that we think one another are scum.

And if Tango flips scum, then I will be going HARD after Mike. I have a feeling that Tango and Mike are aligned in a scum faction, and if they aren't one of our allies, I want them both eliminated ASAP.

[Jayden]

I think the most important thing to keep in mind tomorrow is that we shouldn't go directly after Romeo, Juliett, or Mike.

I definitely want to lynch Mike, but he's viewed as strong pro-town by Romeo and Juliett, so we have to do some work to discredit him first. A Tango scum flip will help a lot with that.

Also if Tango scum flips and we can eliminate Mike, I think I'll be in a good spot to be a town leader.

[Jayden]

Did India actually replace out?

[Forum Mafia GM]

Did India actually replace out?

Beyond the scope of FMGM, sorry lol
You'll have to ask India

[Jayden]

Beyond the scope of FMGM, sorry lol
You'll have to ask India

Fair enough.

India, chime in here?

And man I can't get over how well that lynch went. I'm so happy Lima flipped Targ. Romeo and Mike are going to be 100% defense tomorrow.

[Lucas]

I think an easy Lynch and one that actually makes sense is Victor, I'll be pushing him and pushing back on people that tunnel on me. I'm kind of not really available till 8am Pacific so I apologize.

Is delta too much of a side target that might get doctor healed?

[Lucas]

Oh I see delta as a town but not yelloe/blue for sure

[Jayden]

I think an easy Lynch and one that actually makes sense is Victor, I'll be pushing him and pushing back on people that tunnel on me. I'm kind of not really available till 8am Pacific so I apologize.

Is delta too much of a side target that might get doctor healed?

I don't see Delta being healed tonight. I'm down to go after Delta.

And I could get down on a Victor lynch. I'll probably come out guns blazing for Tango, but if you start pushing Victor I can switch over (if and when he slips). Just don't start anything you don't think you can win; the worst thing right now would be for them to start homing in on you, given the FoS you got today from the vocal ones.

And I'm Pacific time, too, so no worries.

Makes me nervous that we haven't heard from India, though.

[Lucas]

Host feel free to chime in, if you're going to modify him, can we use his disguise?

[Lucas]

Modkill*

[Jayden]

I don't think he'll answer. And host questions need to be lime.

Regardless, I don't really think we should use the disguise quite yet. I don't think India is on the chopping block for tomorrow, especially with Tango still living.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Reminder to post night actions here once you decide: http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/36292-Baratheon-Night-One-Actions

They can be changed, and it just makes sure I get a confirmed night action instead of being forced to read between the lines in the Mafia chat.

[Lucas]

Lol tango is not that scummy. What do you think he actually is, and thoughts on if and who I should use my block tonight?

[Lucas]

FM Echo
FM Juliett
FM November
FM Alfa
FM Charlie
FM X-ray
FM Foxtrot
FM Uniform
FM Mike
FM Bravo
FM Delta
FM Kilo
FM Oscar
FM Papa
FM Romeo
FM Sierra
FM Tango
FM Victor
FM Zulu
FM Golf
FM Hotel
FM Quebec
FM India
FM Whiskey
FM Yankee

my guess. i should have at least some of them right.

[Lucas]

i think good kill targets, but risky, are
november
golf
mike

other good targets
zulu
bravo
mike

also switch alfa and november.

[Lucas]

do we have death notes

[Forum Mafia GM]

do we have death notes

Nope, unfortunately there are no deathnotes in this game.

[Lucas]

Does nurse get to pick their first heal/block? So if I was a nurse, I could go, 'heal bravo' tonight?

[Lucas]

Does nurse get to pick their first heal/block? So if I was a nurse, I could go, 'heal bravo' tonight?



fixed

[Forum Mafia GM]

Does nurse get to pick their first heal/block? So if I was a nurse, I could go, 'heal bravo' tonight?

Correct. First action is chosen, then alternates every subsequent night.

[Mason]

Fair enough.

India, chime in here?

And man I can't get over how well that lynch went. I'm so happy Lima flipped Targ. Romeo and Mike are going to be 100% defense tomorrow.

I'm sorry. Yes I've replaced out. Then My password was the old password so I couldn't get in.
Then I needed to sleep. Hopefully you're still all here.

[Mason]

I read the thread without spoilers. I scum-read me.
However Yankee did okay that day. And Whiskey was alright, but a little off.
I do hope you become "the person that wants to lynch inactives" everyone just rolls their eyes and ignores you.

I'm definitely not the same India in any case. I'll be on less. Shorter posts but more of them.
And my analysis sucks. I can only get feelings from people and I suck at pushing beyond surface questions.

[Mason]

I actually did get rather annoyed at the person you were projecting though Yankee. And some of it didn't exactly make total sense.
Just be careful.
I'll attempt to tank if something goes wrong. I can escape.
As long as we get a counter lynch + not you guys. We should be alright.

And if you are going to be lynched assassin. Do please assassinate. Before you die.

[Mason]

I'm just thinking about a possible claim for myself would be.

Citizen would be obvious. But should I need to Claiming Tyrell would be alright too.
(Thought about disguising as Tyrell to out all the Tyrell for easy pickings.
Because they'd push me.)

Ooh strats. Alright well I'll open day with. "Yes I was replaced" and continue from there by making some reads up.
Uhhh.
Maybe not reads but something anyway.

[Mason]

You guys are PST?
I'm PST + 19.
So it should be around 12pm.
Cause its 7am here ish.

[Lucas]

I read the thread without spoilers. I scum-read me.
However Yankee did okay that day. And Whiskey was alright, but a little off.
I do hope you become "the person that wants to lynch inactives" everyone just rolls their eyes and ignores you.

I'm definitely not the same India in any case. I'll be on less. Shorter posts but more of them.
And my analysis sucks. I can only get feelings from people and I suck at pushing beyond surface questions.

I honestly do believe that, and am not going to discuss it here because we have more important things to discuss. I also do realize I can seem exactly like the person you're describing and can milk it. Should I double down harder on it, stay the same, ease a bit off, or completely?


I actually did get rather annoyed at the person you were projecting though Yankee. And some of it didn't exactly make total sense.
Just be careful.
I'll attempt to tank if something goes wrong. I can escape.
As long as we get a counter lynch + not you guys. We should be alright.

And if you are going to be lynched assassin. Do please assassinate. Before you die.

My reads that I gave were 100% see through. I actually scum read Yankee lol. And India a bit for that one comment.


I'm just thinking about a possible claim for myself would be.

Citizen would be obvious. But should I need to Claiming Tyrell would be alright too.
(Thought about disguising as Tyrell to out all the Tyrell for easy pickings.
Because they'd push me.)

Ooh strats. Alright well I'll open day with. "Yes I was replaced" and continue from there by making some reads up.
Uhhh.
Maybe not reads but something anyway.

forcefully disgusing tyrell is probably not a good idea as they'd out you quick. if I were you i'd cause a mislynch (probably later the better, but more risky) and then go to citizen claim through a lurker/replacement.


You guys are PST?
I'm PST + 19.
So it should be around 12pm.
Cause its 7am here ish.

its noon here

[Lucas]

should I block someone tonight?... I'm afraid of literally anything that could happen.

[Mason]

should I block someone tonight?... I'm afraid of literally anything that could happen.

I believe it would be a waste of a night to not.
Unless town has some escort/whore available.
You could hold your night action. Claiming to not have a target.
You could "roleblock" the assassin.
Gives him an out. He's detection immune so that would match up.

[Lucas]

its so there's no extra block tonight, when/if I have to claim. I guess it is foolish. Here's hoping to I don't get tracked or hit a watched target.

[Lucas]

in case you get targeted india, you should have a last will indicating tailor

[Lucas]

coroner isn't a terrible claim for either one of you if I die, and then say i'm actually baratheon

[Jayden]

I like Alfa and November because I think I can manipulate both. I would be down to kill Delta, I suppose.

And I think you should block someone. No sense in not using your night actions. If someone spots you visiting, you can easily just claim Whore from a town-aligned faction.

[Jayden]

I actually did get rather annoyed at the person you were projecting though Yankee. And some of it didn't exactly make total sense.
Just be careful.
I'll attempt to tank if something goes wrong. I can escape.
As long as we get a counter lynch + not you guys. We should be alright.

And if you are going to be lynched assassin. Do please assassinate. Before you die.

Annoying is what I go for. Most scum are not willing to piss people off. As Citizen, I always try to be a lightning rod.

And I certainly will assassinate if I'm about to be lynched. :)

[Jayden]

Juilett is kind of a risky target, though.

She's emerged as an early town leader, so she seems likely to be watched. If you want to go with Juilett, be ready to justify why you targeted someone that most people read as town.

[Lucas]

i'm looking for a scummy looking TPR. any other suggestions?

[Lucas]

Can I use a code such as "If I get role block feedback, my first post, first letter will begin with "G".

I got some ideas how we can fake some sort of trust going between the two of us. I'm thinking along the lines of Jailor, or fake Maester, or something? Or we should avoid plays like that.

Also, permission to ask disguiser for help in case I ever get caught somehow? This'll probably be more useful later on.

[Cryptonic]

Can I use a code such as "If I get role block feedback, my first post, first letter will begin with "G".

I got some ideas how we can fake some sort of trust going between the two of us. I'm thinking along the lines of Jailor, or fake Maester, or something? Or we should avoid plays like that.

Also, permission to ask disguiser for help in case I ever get caught somehow? This'll probably be more useful later on.

Yes, those types of codes are fine

[Lucas]

I'll say my first action was a heal. Hopefully I don't get watched.

[Lucas]

Oh lol we have another day

[Jayden]

I'll say my first action was a heal. Hopefully I don't get watched.

Wait, you're going to claim that you were healed?

[Jayden]

I got some ideas how we can fake some sort of trust going between the two of us. I'm thinking along the lines of Jailor, or fake Maester, or something? Or we should avoid plays like that.


I just saw this; we should avoid plays like that.

[Lucas]

I read the thread without spoilers. I scum-read me.
However Yankee did okay that day. And Whiskey was alright, but a little off.
I do hope you become "the person that wants to lynch inactives" everyone just rolls their eyes and ignores you.

I'm definitely not the same India in any case. I'll be on less. Shorter posts but more of them.
And my analysis sucks. I can only get feelings from people and I suck at pushing beyond surface questions.


I actually did get rather annoyed at the person you were projecting though Yankee. And some of it didn't exactly make total sense.
Just be careful.
I'll attempt to tank if something goes wrong. I can escape.
As long as we get a counter lynch + not you guys. We should be alright.

And if you are going to be lynched assassin. Do please assassinate. Before you die.


I'm just thinking about a possible claim for myself would be.

Citizen would be obvious. But should I need to Claiming Tyrell would be alright too.
(Thought about disguising as Tyrell to out all the Tyrell for easy pickings.
Because they'd push me.)

Ooh strats. Alright well I'll open day with. "Yes I was replaced" and continue from there by making some reads up.
Uhhh.
Maybe not reads but something anyway.


I just saw this; we should avoid plays like that.

just throwing stuff around. never been mafia before, like I said.

[Lucas]

dont know why so many were quoted

[Forum Mafia GM]

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