S-FM Stay Classy (7P)

[RLVG]

S-FM : Stay Classy


Godfather

Random Mafia
Random PR

Random PR

Citizen

Citizen

Citizen




Roles :

Godfather :

Has absolute control over all actions in the Mafia.
May be sent out for the factional kill.
Is seen as a Town.


Framer :

Target someone during night to frame them into a Mafia who visited the killed target.
May be sent out for the factional kill.


Consigliere :

Target someone during night to check the player's exact role.
May be sent out for the factional kill.


Consort :

Target someone during night to roleblock them. Targets are informed.
May be sent out for the factional kill.


Sheriff :

Target someone during night to check their alignment.


Detective :

Target someone during night to check who they visited.


Escort :

Target someone during night to roleblock them. Targets are informed.


Doctor :

Target someone during night to heal them from any attacks.
Upon a sucessful heal, the target are informed of this but not the Doctor.


Citizen :

You have the power in the vote.


Order of Operations :

Consort.
Escort.
Framer.
Doctor.
Factional Mafia Kill.
Investigation.


Mechanics :

Lynch will be at Majority. (51% of alive players)
Days last 48 hours long unless explicitly requested to skip.
Nights are 24 hours long.
Mafia has a Night Chat.
Mafia has a Factional Kill, the player doing the kill sacrifices their role action to perform it.
Mafia wins if they're at a tie situation, Town wins if there's no Mafia.
Last Wills can be submitted.
Suicide isn't allowed.


Win Conditions :


Town must eliminate the Mafia.
Mafia must either eliminate the Town or be in a tie situation. (1v1, 2v2)

[Calix]

Would the setup that you would end up using be randomised or handpicked?

[DarknessB]

Would the setup that you would end up using be randomised or handpicked?

I, for one, am looking forward to the 2 Doctor chain heal, the 2 Escort block everyone, or the 2 Sheriff investigate everyone, each of which with just a Consig. :)

[RLVG]

Would the setup that you would end up using be randomised or handpicked?

For the sake of WIFOM, I won't discuss that.

[Frozen Angel]

Pick that random please. I may or may not play but I hate when people say random and handpick stuff :(

[Cryptonic]

Would the setup that you would end up using be randomised or handpicked?

The answer is yes.

[DarknessB]

Pick that random please. I may or may not play but I hate when people say random and handpick stuff :(

Seems safer to say that you will handpick and then you can always random if you want. In fact, there was a heated thread about this last summer -- my favorite line (Crypt to FB):


I don't wanna know how you reacted when you were told Santa isn't real.

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/31951-Don-t-Call-Your-Roles-quot-Random-quot-Unless-you-actuall-you-mean-Random

[MattZed]

RLVG, I can approve this soon if you're interested in hosting.

What happens to Framer's frame if the mafia night kill is healed?

What if it's roleblocked?

How do detectives see the Godfather if he performs the kill?

[RLVG]

@RLVG (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=6656) , I can approve this soon if you're interested in hosting.

What happens to Framer's frame if the mafia night kill is healed?

What if it's roleblocked?

How do detectives see the Godfather if he performs the kill?

Alright, I can get into hosting.

1 & 2 : Think of it like Janitor. The Janitor can't clean a target that's alive. (who visited the Killed target)
Short answer : The frame won't work.

3 : Godfather's "Citizen" description is for the Sheriff's alignment check. I'll change it to Town to avoid confusion.



Edit : It's changed. I also added a Win Conditions list.

[Cryptonic]

How does game start?
I would recommend a short, no lynch d1, cause Mafia is screwed if they get unlucky with d1 lynch lol

[MattZed]

How does game start?
I would recommend a short, no lynch d1, cause Mafia is screwed if they get unlucky with d1 lynch lol
Crypt, why are you suggesting instant MYLO?

[Cryptonic]

Because a game this size is always MYLO

d1 w/ lynch forces an instant LYLO or an impossible win for Mafia.

[RLVG]

How does game start?
Day 1, lynch possible. They may opt to lynch or no lynch.


no lynch d1

I got roasted, burned and hanged because of the rebellous forces against a "no lynch day 1". :cheesy:
Seriously though, so many players are apparently against it.

[Cryptonic]

I got roasted, burned and hanged because of the rebellous forces against a "no lynch day 1". :cheesy:
Seriously though, so many players are apparently against it.



That's because people don't understand the purpose of d1. They think they without a lynch, you can't scum hunt. But you're not supposed to be scum hunting on d1, you're supposed to be creating your WIFOM to direct night actions to make yourself stay alive until the next day.

I understand what you mean, though, people do rage at no d1 lynch. But a d1 lynch will really cause your game to come crashing, no matter who gets lynched.

[MattZed]

Can someone be investigated if they are the mafia's night kill?

[RLVG]

Can someone be investigated if they are the mafia's night kill?

I don't quite understand.

If it's about the Detective, they'd be able to see according to the order of operations (investigations are after a kill, thus not acted if investigative got killed).
If it's the Sheriff, they'd see what's supposed to show - the frame doesn't vanish upon death during the same night.
If it's about the Mafia investigating someone they intent to kill, they can do that.

[Cryptonic]

Like this:

Mafia kills Player A (Escort)
Detective follows Player A (Escort)

Does Detective see who Player A roleblocked, even though Player A is dead when he tries to target him?

[RLVG]

Does Detective see who Player A roleblocked, even though Player A is dead when he tries to target him?

Any performed actions will be seen as a visit. If the player was blocked or is an investigative who got killed, they're not performing their action thus not seen visiting.

[Cryptonic]

Any performed actions will be seen as a visit. If the player was blocked or is an investigative who got killed, they're not performing their action thus not seen visiting.

So an Investigative role can target a dead person?

[RLVG]

So an Investigative role can target a dead person?

They can only target alive players the time they're making the decision to target someone.
If the target dies during the night after decision was made, then yes they'll end up targeting someone dead.

[MattZed]

RLVG, you can change this to a D1 no-lynch if you would like. I'm fine with the balance either way, although I prefer D1 to have a lynch. If you decide to D1-no lynch, make it 24 hours instead of 48.

Approved.

[deathworlds]

Are you interested in hosting this soon?

[RLVG]

Are you interested in hosting this soon?

Yes, I'm interested in hosting this and it can start anytime.

[deathworlds]

Approved, you may post signups when ready.