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Calix
April 19th, 2016, 01:00 PM
DecisionsS-FM191

Setup (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/35421-S-FM-Decisions)

http://www.ideachampions.com/weblogs/decisions.gif

Pre-game is in progress.

Day 1 begins in 24 hours (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160420T21&p0=3253&font=cursive).



Players
Roles


BananaCucho
Firebringer
TheDarkestLight
secondpassing
Frozen Angel
powerofdeath
AIVION/ Helz
SuperJack
Excalibur
Mafia
Mafia
Chosen Town
Chosen Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town

Calix
April 20th, 2016, 01:00 PM
Day 1

Day ends in 72 hours (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160423T21&p0=3253&font=cursive)

Setup (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/35421-S-FM-Decisions)

With 9 players alive, 5

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--tN3TBBhY--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18f9ambizh8hijpg.jpg



Players
Roles


BananaCucho
Firebringer
TheDarkestLight
secondpassing
Frozen Angel
powerofdeath
AIVION/ Helz
SuperJack
Excalibur
Mafia
Mafia
Chosen Town
Chosen Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town

SuperJack
April 20th, 2016, 01:07 PM
Gonna claim.

I'm Town.

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 01:15 PM
Gonna claim.

I'm Town.

huh ...

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 01:17 PM
anyway tired as hell going to sleep sooner. good night

SuperJack
April 20th, 2016, 01:21 PM
Frozen Angel

Because you are sleeping.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 01:26 PM
SuperJack

Back off, Barbie

TheDarkestLight
April 20th, 2016, 01:32 PM
Gonna claim.

I'm Town.

Mind blown. I cannot comprehend this claim. Pls help me.

SuperJack
April 20th, 2016, 01:35 PM
SuperJack

Back off, Barbie

OMGUS

Toadette

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 01:38 PM
I was told there was going to be cake:
BananaCucho

Gonna tunnel this till I get my damn cake.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 01:42 PM
Frozen Angel

Because you are sleeping.

How dare you vote Frozen for sleeping!
Elsa needs sleep.

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 01:47 PM
So what is the name of the hydra for AIVION and Helz? Just so I may vote them.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 01:47 PM
I was told there was going to be cake:
BananaCucho

Gonna tunnel this till I get my damn cake.

Your new avatar is pretty douchey

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 01:47 PM
Also if they are hydra, then this is my first game with a hydra in it. So you two, go impress me.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 01:47 PM
So what is the name of the hydra for AIVION and Helz? Just so I may vote them.

its obviously AIVION/Helz.
Pleb.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 01:48 PM
Your new avatar is pretty douchey

BRING ME CAKE!

AIVION
April 20th, 2016, 01:48 PM
Firebringer

EAT FIRE!

Also, I hope we start to use the day to scum hunt... This is a vanilla setup and the beginning day RVS Is the most crucial Part of the day.

Start analyzing vote patterns and make FOS's based on this. If we play smart we can win this.

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 01:48 PM
Ill try this then AIVION/Helz

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 01:49 PM
Now I'm confused, are you guys hydra or what?

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 01:49 PM
Firebringer

EAT FIRE!

Also, I hope we start to use the day to scum hunt... This is a vanilla setup and the beginning day RVS Is the most crucial Part of the day.

Start analyzing vote patterns and make FOS's based on this. If we play smart we can win this.

Where is your hydra account?
*facepalm*

Calix
April 20th, 2016, 01:49 PM
Ill try this then AIVION/Helz

For future reference, you can just vote for AIVION.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 01:50 PM
For future reference, you can just vote for AIVION.

So they aren't hydraed?

AIVION
April 20th, 2016, 01:51 PM
So they aren't hydraed?

We are but since He can't really post in chat we aren't using a hydra account.

Calix
April 20th, 2016, 01:52 PM
So they aren't hydraed?

Helz is assisting AIVION as they are new, so no.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 01:53 PM
W/e that should at least make AIVION easier to read. In theory.
Anyways, AIVION and everyone should join me on BananaCucho.

I have a cop guilty N0 on her.
Time to lynch them.

TheDarkestLight
April 20th, 2016, 01:53 PM
Firebringer

EAT FIRE!

Also, I hope we start to use the day to scum hunt... This is a vanilla setup and the beginning day RVS Is the most crucial Part of the day.

Start analyzing vote patterns and make FOS's based on this. If we play smart we can win this.

Trying to say we need to scumhunt without actually scum hunting. Strong.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 01:54 PM
Trying to say we need to scumhunt without actually scum hunting. Strong.

You going to play on day 1 mate?

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 01:59 PM
W/e that should at least make AIVION easier to read. In theory.
Anyways, AIVION and everyone should join me on BananaCucho.

I have a cop guilty N0 on her.
Time to lynch them.

You're really boring.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 02:01 PM
You're really boring.

Sticks and stones love.

TheDarkestLight
April 20th, 2016, 02:02 PM
You going to play on day 1 mate?

What's the difference between today and tomorrow? Not enough of one for me to think today is useless.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 02:04 PM
What's the difference between today and tomorrow? Not enough of one for me to think today is useless.
Associations are stronger as game goes on. Thats one thing.

TheDarkestLight
April 20th, 2016, 02:05 PM
Associations are stronger as game goes on. Thats one thing.

Note what I said, "Not enough of one."

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 02:11 PM
Frozen Angel

Is there a reason you skipped doing an RVS vote today?

Also, Teo says hi

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 02:59 PM
Frozen Angel

Is there a reason you skipped doing an RVS vote today?

Also, Teo says hi

This is someone who wants to look like they are trying.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 03:00 PM
Note what I said, "Not enough of one."

Got any thoughts on anyone specifically, besides that AIVION post you commented on?

TheDarkestLight
April 20th, 2016, 03:03 PM
Got any thoughts on anyone specifically, besides that AIVION post you commented on?

You are too emotional in the Banana topic. It's anti-town to vote someone for the simple reason of "I don't like you for out of game reasons."

TheDarkestLight
April 20th, 2016, 03:03 PM
You are too emotional in the Banana topic. It's anti-town to vote someone for the simple reason of "I don't like you for out of game reasons."

And the rest are just meh. Trolling, not far enough in the day yet.

Also, same question for you Fire.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 03:05 PM
"Checking in to check out" Noctiz

TheDarkestLight
April 20th, 2016, 03:07 PM
"Checking in to check out" Noctiz

Strong.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 03:44 PM
I saw Funce reading earlier. No posts. I really don't like that behavior Funce.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 03:45 PM
I saw Funce reading earlier. No posts. I really don't like that behavior Funce.

Check the player list you noob

Excalibur
April 20th, 2016, 04:54 PM
Players
Roles


BananaCucho
Firebringer
TheDarkestLight
secondpassing
Frozen Angel
powerofdeath
AIVION/ Helz
SuperJack
Excalibur
Mafia
Mafia
Chosen Town
Chosen Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town

[/color]

Fools! King Arthur himself, the miester who saw all 1,000 provisions himself has handed us the answers.

For victory and glory!

Bananacucho

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 04:57 PM
Hi Excalibur, are you the holy sword, or are you a player with a mouth and drinks coffee.

You know what's better than coffee? Pearl milk tea.

So pearl milk tea > swords

Do you wield swords?

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 04:58 PM
Strong.

Thanks.

Excalibur
April 20th, 2016, 04:59 PM
Hi Excalibur, are you the holy sword, or are you a player with a mouth and drinks coffee.

You know what's better than coffee? Pearl milk tea.

So pearl milk tea > swords

Do you wield swords?

Fool! Always start your day with coffee and cream!

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 04:59 PM
BananaCucho

Let's do it.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:00 PM
Fool! Always start your day with coffee and cream!

That's what I had. Wish I had more sugar in my coffee though.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:01 PM
Actually scum like to "random" the people they don't actually want lynched. Frozen Angel

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:03 PM
Actually that means I think SuperJack would be mafia.
TheDarkestLight because he didn't vote.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:06 PM
Hey BananaCucho, would you mind if I just called you Toadette? I mean, even if you're not on that account.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 05:10 PM
Yeah that's fine.

Can you explain a bit more your train of thought in this post? I'm not really following it


Actually scum like to "random" the people they don't actually want lynched. Frozen Angel

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 05:11 PM
Also, if that meant SJ would be mafia, why not vote SJ? Why go into an RVS vote with even less meaning?

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:12 PM
Yeah that's fine.

Can you explain a bit more your train of thought in this post? I'm not really following it

Someone told me that early trains die quickly. In my own experience added to this, early trains did indeed die off quickly (with the exception of deathworlds in Colder War).
So wouldn't scums want to vote their partners to feign clearing them?

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 05:15 PM
Someone told me that early trains die quickly. In my own experience added to this, early trains did indeed die off quickly (with the exception of deathworlds in Colder War).
So wouldn't scums want to vote their partners to feign clearing them?

Okay, so we call that bussing, where scums vote their partners to separate themselves from them

How does that lead you to unvote me and place a vote on FA, and when you say "actually that makes SJ mafia" why do you vote him? What you're saying and who you're voting don't correlate

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:17 PM
Also, if that meant SJ would be mafia, why not vote SJ? Why go into an RVS vote with even less meaning?

That would mean that SuperJack would have to be scum first. All it meant was that if SuperJack was mafia, then Frozen Angel is probably mafia/target he doesn't actually want lynched.
So yeah, I'm thinking that maybe him and Elsa are buddies or something. Or nothing, doesn't mean anything if they are town.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:19 PM
Okay, so we call that bussing, where scums vote their partners to separate themselves from them

How does that lead you to unvote me and place a vote on FA, and when you say "actually that makes SJ mafia" why do you vote him? What you're saying and who you're voting don't correlate

Bussing is when you actually lynch them. This kind of early vote is like "this guy is mafia hurr durr durr", then when the train dissipates, it's harder for town to pick it back up again, and everyone thinks that those two people aren't on the same team when they actually are.

I was thinking about voting you for a little while just to amp the pressure on whoever did vote you. But decided it wasn't worth as much value as voting someone who analyzed chat and commented on it and then proceeded to not vote.

TheDarkestLight is a veteran player and he should contribute to RVS. That's what I believe he would do.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 05:20 PM
That makes more sense, but I still don't get why you took a turn for RVS in that TDL vote if you're already analyzing interactions.

I myself don't find early game pre-flip associations to be good, but if you feel something is there why avoid exploring it?

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 05:21 PM
Bussing is when you actually lynch them. This kind of early vote is like "this guy is mafia hurr durr durr", then when the train dissipates, it's harder for town to pick it back up again, and everyone thinks that those two people aren't on the same team when they actually are.

I was thinking about voting you for a little while just to amp the pressure on whoever did vote you. But decided it wasn't worth as much value as voting someone who analyzed chat and commented on it and then proceeded to not vote.

TheDarkestLight is a veteran player and he should contribute to RVS. That's what I believe he would do.

Disagree. Bussing doesn't always lead to lynches

Thanks for walking me through it.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 05:22 PM
Secondpassing you aren't making much sense.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 05:23 PM
BananaCucho

Let's do it.

This was the right openner, move back to this

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:23 PM
That makes more sense, but I still don't get why you took a turn for RVS in that TDL vote if you're already analyzing interactions.

I myself don't find early game pre-flip associations to be good, but if you feel something is there why avoid exploring it?

Because what you said in other games actually makes sense. I've never found an association before a flip to be correct.

TDL was interacting with me, I was considering voting POD but he didn't comment on anything I wrote.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:24 PM
Secondpassing you aren't making much sense.

Sorry. Anyway, nice weapon.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 05:24 PM
Sorry. Anyway, nice weapon.

I am going to use this blade on you if you don't vote with me!

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:25 PM
I am going to use this blade on you if you don't vote with me!

Currently, I'd rather vote against you than with you >..>

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 05:26 PM
Currently, I'd rather vote against you than with you >..>

Okay then, that works too.
In my world, you are with me or you are against me.

There are no middle grounds.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:27 PM
Someone told me that early trains die quickly. In my own experience added to this, early trains did indeed die off quickly (with the exception of deathworlds in Colder War).
So wouldn't scums want to vote their partners to feign clearing them?

Actually, the more I think about this the more likely I think this is true.

There was a pre-game.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:27 PM
Okay then, that works too.
In my world, you are with me or you are against me.

There are no middle grounds.

Okay, I'm against you. Can you vote TDL with me?

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 05:28 PM
Okay, I'm against you. Can you vote TDL with me?

Secondpassing

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:28 PM
What happened to your blue name? It used to be blue.
Also it used to be "respected" did they lose respect for you?

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:29 PM
Secondpassing

K.

Firebringer

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 05:31 PM
What happened to your blue name? It used to be blue.
Also it used to be "respected" did they lose respect for you?

Someone doesn't want me being blue.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:32 PM
Someone doesn't want me being blue.

They should change you to "NOOB".

What the heck are we going to talk about for 72 hours?
I really want to move this train onto every single player, but that would mean that the votes means nothing.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:34 PM
Oh! I got it.

New strat:
each of us picks a lover.
If that person dies and flips town, we lynch their lover.

What do you think?

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 05:35 PM
They should change you to "NOOB".

What the heck are we going to talk about for 72 hours?
I really want to move this train onto every single player, but that would mean that the votes means nothing.

They should change me to noob.
Now, want to talk about why you think TDL is scummy? Of everyone so far I think TDL and SuperJack seem the most townie.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:36 PM
Are the mafia sent their rolecards twice? (Second one with the chosen town on it)
If not, when do the mafia know who the chosen towns are?

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 05:36 PM
They should change you to "NOOB".

What the heck are we going to talk about for 72 hours?
I really want to move this train onto every single player, but that would mean that the votes means nothing.

Just be patient. Someone else will come post, then we engage conversation with them. No point in spamming, or coming up with bad strategies that get us no where.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:37 PM
They should change me to noob.
Now, want to talk about why you think TDL is scummy? Of everyone so far I think TDL and SuperJack seem the most townie.

TDL didn't vote. That's pretty much all there is. He said "strong" like twice. POD, forgot what POD said, he didn't vote either.
Actually, I'm pretty sure quite some others didn't vote.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 05:38 PM
Just be patient. Someone else will come post, then we engage conversation with them. No point in spamming, or coming up with bad strategies that get us no where.

Okay, I'll refrain from posting. I'll use the time to think about my strategy.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 05:38 PM
TDL didn't vote. That's pretty much all there is. He said "strong" like twice. POD, forgot what POD said, he didn't vote either.
Actually, I'm pretty sure quite some others didn't vote.
He actually made some comments that I think resonated with me, like with thing about BananaCucho.
Though I still want Banana pressured hardcore and her ignoring me, isn't helping me with that.

I want them sorted so I can ignore that slot till end of this game.

TheDarkestLight
April 20th, 2016, 05:41 PM
TDL didn't vote. That's pretty much all there is. He said "strong" like twice. POD, forgot what POD said, he didn't vote either.
Actually, I'm pretty sure quite some others didn't vote.

Because I'm required to vote instantly in order to be the most pro-town. I'm observing rather than jumping in moronically.

TheDarkestLight
April 20th, 2016, 05:41 PM
He actually made some comments that I think resonated with me, like with thing about BananaCucho.
Though I still want Banana pressured hardcore and her ignoring me, isn't helping me with that.

I want them sorted so I can ignore that slot till end of this game.

You want her to respond but... all you ever do is push for personal reasons. That's unreadable.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 05:45 PM
You want her to respond but... all you ever do is push for personal reasons. That's unreadable.

Get enough people on her wagon, and she will show her colors.

AIVION
April 20th, 2016, 05:59 PM
Someone told me that early trains die quickly. In my own experience added to this, early trains did indeed die off quickly (with the exception of deathworlds in Colder War).
So wouldn't scums want to vote their partners to feign clearing them?


Bussing is when you actually lynch them. This kind of early vote is like "this guy is mafia hurr durr durr", then when the train dissipates, it's harder for town to pick it back up again, and everyone thinks that those two people aren't on the same team when they actually are.

I was thinking about voting you for a little while just to amp the pressure on whoever did vote you. But decided it wasn't worth as much value as voting someone who analyzed chat and commented on it and then proceeded to not vote.

TheDarkestLight is a veteran player and he should contribute to RVS. That's what I believe he would do.


Sounds like he's coming off as attempting to paint targets as scummy instead of scum hunting here.. and potentially directing early game attention


That would mean that SuperJack would have to be scum first. All it meant was that if SuperJack was mafia, then Frozen Angel is probably mafia/target he doesn't actually want lynched.
So yeah, I'm thinking that maybe him and Elsa are buddies or something. Or nothing, doesn't mean anything if they are town.

Sounds like he's doing preflip associations....


Because what you said in other games actually makes sense. I've never found an association before a flip to be correct.

TDL was interacting with me, I was considering voting POD but he didn't comment on anything I wrote.

Yet he's also contradicting himself here... Sounds a bit odd to me.

Firebringer ... since you're basically at it with SecondPassing at the moment, your thoughts on this?

TheDarkestLight
April 20th, 2016, 06:00 PM
Get enough people on her wagon, and she will show her colors.

So it's just coincidence that you think she's scum again?

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 06:06 PM
Sounds like he's coming off as attempting to paint targets as scummy instead of scum hunting here.. and potentially directing early game attention



Sounds like he's doing preflip associations....



Yet he's also contradicting himself here... Sounds a bit odd to me.

Firebringer ... since you're basically at it with SecondPassing at the moment, your thoughts on this?

Secondpassing is showing indecisiveness. He wanted to follow one train of thought, changed his mind and went the other way. Not a scum or town tell, but course correcting from pre-flip associating to not doing that after realizing that's a noob move, is town motivated.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 06:09 PM
So it's just coincidence that you think she's scum again?

I am saying she needs pressure, if anything meta wise she is being way too non toxic, which is a terribad reason to scumread someone.

Do you think she is town?

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 06:15 PM
Firebringer ... since you're basically at it with SecondPassing at the moment, your thoughts on this?
He is null at the moment, though some things did stick out for me like the "pre game talk" or something.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 06:18 PM
Sounds like he's coming off as attempting to paint targets as scummy instead of scum hunting here.. and potentially directing early game attention



Sounds like he's doing preflip associations....



Yet he's also contradicting himself here... Sounds a bit odd to me.

Firebringer ... since you're basically at it with SecondPassing at the moment, your thoughts on this?

Yay, people posted.

"Instead of actually scum-hunting" - I'm actually scum hunting. You saying he "sounds" like he isn't totally isn't helping clarify anything.
Just say it. Am I scum hunting or not?

Don't you do pre-flip associations in your head? All I'm doing is writing it out.

I'll say it for you: YOU aren't scum hunting.

AIVION
April 20th, 2016, 06:19 PM
though some things did stick out for me like the "pre game talk" or something.

Care to elaborate more on this?

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 06:20 PM
Secondpassing is showing indecisiveness. He wanted to follow one train of thought, changed his mind and went the other way. Not a scum or town tell, but course correcting from pre-flip associating to not doing that after realizing that's a noob move, is town motivated.

It's actually part of my personality, but whatever.

And for the second point, I'm simply learning from every game I play.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 06:21 PM
Care to elaborate more on this?

The playstyle that only answers questions is annoying.

Why don't YOU elaborate on it?

SuperJack
April 20th, 2016, 06:22 PM
secondpassing

Because.

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 09:30 PM
Frozen Angel

Is there a reason you skipped doing an RVS vote today?

Also, Teo says hi

Well I was arguing with other people somewhere else and I wasn't in the mood to do an RVS vote.

Tell Teo hi ! :)

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 09:32 PM
I saw Funce reading earlier. No posts. I really don't like that behavior Funce.

second passing didn't vote RVS as well. Selective scum hunting ?

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 09:34 PM
Actually that means I think SuperJack would be mafia.
TheDarkestLight because he didn't vote.

I'm not following you .

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 09:34 PM
second passing didn't vote RVS as well. Selective scum hunting ?

Hi there.

Did I need to use RANDOM.ORG to do RVS? Is that what you used?

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 09:36 PM
Bussing is when you actually lynch them. This kind of early vote is like "this guy is mafia hurr durr durr", then when the train dissipates, it's harder for town to pick it back up again, and everyone thinks that those two people aren't on the same team when they actually are.

I was thinking about voting you for a little while just to amp the pressure on whoever did vote you. But decided it wasn't worth as much value as voting someone who analyzed chat and commented on it and then proceeded to not vote.

TheDarkestLight is a veteran player and he should contribute to RVS. That's what I believe he would do.

Contributing to RVS means voting?

and you say you won't vote people random but he must have done it ?

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 09:37 PM
Hi there.

Did I need to use RANDOM.ORG to do RVS? Is that what you used?

nope I didn't vote anyone. your the one who are accusing people who didn't post an RVS vote . :/

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 09:40 PM
Okay, I'm against you. Can you vote TDL with me?

I'm feeling your a little bit defensive here

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 09:40 PM
Contributing to RVS means voting?

and you say you won't vote people random but he must have done it ?

Apparently RVS doesn't equal "Random Voting Stage". Apparently its something else.
No, I guess I didn't random people. Anyway, the fact is that this part of the game we are testing out the waters and building trains on people until enough pressure builds so we can go.
I'm simply contributing to it. And yes, my vote isn't random.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 10:01 PM
second passing didn't vote RVS as well. Selective scum hunting ?

I was actually typing that out for secondpassing as well, but they voted and I drilled them for the same thing that isbcinfusing everyone else. I don't think they were very articulate about what they were trying to say.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 10:01 PM
Is confusing*

Whoops. Toadette moment.

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 10:04 PM
Apparently RVS doesn't equal "Random Voting Stage". Apparently its something else.
No, I guess I didn't random people. Anyway, the fact is that this part of the game we are testing out the waters and building trains on people until enough pressure builds so we can go.
I'm simply contributing to it. And yes, my vote isn't random.

RVS means "Random voting stage" as all the votes happening back then are basically random as there is nothing to make a conversation / real vote based on. it is the stage of game people start communicating and if they vote that will be random.

What made you think superjack wasn't contributing to it ?

plus what about TDL is concerning you this much that your asking others o join your wagon in the stage "people should test waters" and "building trains".

I mean forcing others to build trains as you want is not testing waters ...

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 10:06 PM
I was actually typing that out for secondpassing as well, but they voted and I drilled them for the same thing that isbcinfusing everyone else. I don't think they were very articulate about what they were trying to say.

Scummy not articulate ? confusing scummy ?

what about him voting make a difference in the fact they didn't vote in RVS / first post that was different from what I did ?

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 10:07 PM
and in this setup I feel I want to keep my vote for a little while see who interacted are people to vote who

I feel safer this way.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 10:11 PM
Scummy not articulate ? confusing scummy ?

what about him voting make a difference in the fact they didn't vote in RVS / first post that was different from what I did ?

Well you left without voting and I know at mafiascum RVS is more of a thing than here.

I feel secondpassings explanation of their thought process made sense. They just didn't explain well the first time.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 10:13 PM
Now, I'm kinda confused.
So Toadette is telling me that people are voting me for not participating in random voting? (Is that what you said?)

RVS actually has to be random? >...>

If that is what RVS has to be, I guess ill just not make the pretense of participating in it. I'm trying to get stuff done people.

Also, I've placed a vote. I'm not sure what you mean by that.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 10:20 PM
RVS means "Random voting stage" as all the votes happening back then are basically random as there is nothing to make a conversation / real vote based on. it is the stage of game people start communicating and if they vote that will be random.

What made you think superjack wasn't contributing to it ?

plus what about TDL is concerning you this much that your asking others o join your wagon in the stage "people should test waters" and "building trains".

I mean forcing others to build trains as you want is not testing waters ...

Well okay, here goes:

There is no such thing as random in human interactions. If you vote someone, it shows you are inclined to want to lynch that player (or are WIFOMING it).

The quote you quoted had nothing to do with SuperJack. Though I'm thinking you're referring to the time before SuperJack posted. These posts are in real time, and SuperJack dropped his vote after I started posting like mad.

I think people should always be voting. If you don't vote in RVS, how the heck is pressure supposed to build?

I'm starting to change this belief though. Experienced players seem to be getting away with simply expressing their thoughts then voting afterwards.

I'm not forcing people to build trains as I want, but I do want these trains built. If we don't pressure people how are we going to get those interactions?
(Well actually I would absolutely love to have trains built in my favor. Not something for RVS stage though.)

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:28 PM
Because what you said in other games actually makes sense. I've never found an association before a flip to be correct.

TDL was interacting with me, I was considering voting POD but he didn't comment on anything I wrote.

Was I supposed to comment on you?

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 10:28 PM
Well you left without voting and I know at mafiascum RVS is more of a thing than here.

I feel secondpassings explanation of their thought process made sense. They just didn't explain well the first time.

huh. I vote whenever I'm satisfied with it! RVS or not RVS . I don't care.

and you didn't answer my second question about second passing.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:29 PM
Now, I'm kinda confused.
So Toadette is telling me that people are voting me for not participating in random voting? (Is that what you said?)

RVS actually has to be random? >...>

If that is what RVS has to be, I guess ill just not make the pretense of participating in it. I'm trying to get stuff done people.

Also, I've placed a vote. I'm not sure what you mean by that.

We aren't voting you because you aren't participating in RVS, its because you are being wildly inconsistent and scummy.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:30 PM
Apparently RVS doesn't equal "Random Voting Stage". Apparently its something else.
No, I guess I didn't random people. Anyway, the fact is that this part of the game we are testing out the waters and building trains on people until enough pressure builds so we can go.
I'm simply contributing to it. And yes, my vote isn't random.

You placed your vote almost everywhere.
3 different people.

Also here:
Vote Count 1-0
secondpassing (2 [L-3]):
SuperJack, Firebringer
SuperJack (1 [L-4]):
BananaCucho
Firebringer (2 [L-3]):
AIVION, secondpassing
BananaCucho (1 [L-4]):
Excalibur

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:31 PM
huh. I vote whenever I'm satisfied with it! RVS or not RVS . I don't care.

and you didn't answer my second question about second passing.

Frozen, why haven't you interacted with me once so far?

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 10:32 PM
We aren't voting you because you aren't participating in RVS, its because you are being wildly inconsistent and scummy.

Probably just because I'm posting more, and that I like to think as I go along.


Was I supposed to comment on you?

No. Well, you can if you want to.
_______

I'm probably spamming chat too much for the other Europeans. I'll try to tone it down and hide my boredom.

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:32 PM
Frozen, why haven't you interacted with me once so far?

why are you ignoring me ;-;

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:32 PM
Probably just because I'm posting more, and that I like to think as I go along.



No. Well, you can if you want to.
_______

I'm probably spamming chat too much for the other Europeans. I'll try to tone it down and hide my boredom.

I do not want to. I am lazy at the moment. You can comment on me if you aren't lazy as I am.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:32 PM
why are you ignoring me ;-;

You aren't sortable Day 1.

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:34 PM
You aren't sortable Day 1.

what is that supposed to mean?

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 10:34 PM
I do not want to. I am lazy at the moment. You can comment on me if you aren't lazy as I am.

Well, your cat avatar looks nice. Also I realized that you tried to vote AIVION (who is probably too busy with life).
So whatever I said about you I take back.

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:34 PM
You aren't sortable Day 1.

I am not just some another list, I am a cat being!

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 10:35 PM
Well okay, here goes:

There is no such thing as random in human interactions. If you vote someone, it shows you are inclined to want to lynch that player (or are WIFOMING it).

The quote you quoted had nothing to do with SuperJack. Though I'm thinking you're referring to the time before SuperJack posted. These posts are in real time, and SuperJack dropped his vote after I started posting like mad.

I think people should always be voting. If you don't vote in RVS, how the heck is pressure supposed to build?

I'm starting to change this belief though. Experienced players seem to be getting away with simply expressing their thoughts then voting afterwards.

I'm not forcing people to build trains as I want, but I do want these trains built. If we don't pressure people how are we going to get those interactions?
(Well actually I would absolutely love to have trains built in my favor. Not something for RVS stage though.)

got u. so you really want TPD gone?

I feel you are more informed and have clues and trying to force the lynch on certain people. Exactly what I'm expecting of mafia in this game. the way you voted people and moved to someone else and suddenly pushing it for a lynch (and asking others to join you on them) is extremly scummy

I like L2 votes secondpassing

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:35 PM
Well, your cat avatar looks nice. Also I realized that you tried to vote AIVION (who is probably too busy with life).
So whatever I said about you I take back.

Thanks! My cat is awesome.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:35 PM
what is that supposed to mean?

It means, I rather put effort in people I think I can figure out their alignments and PoE the rest. You aren't in my priorities right now. I can talk with you plenty if you like, but I don't think I will sort you easier than some other players here.

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:36 PM
got u. so you really want TPD gone?

I feel you are more informed and have clues and trying to force the lynch on certain people. Exactly what I'm expecting of mafia in this game. the way you voted people and moved to someone else and suddenly pushing it for a lynch (and asking others to join you on them) is extremly scummy

I like L2 votes secondpassing

It's L-3. I can make it to L-2 for you.
secondpassing

Go blitz this.

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 10:36 PM
Frozen, why haven't you interacted with me once so far?

Cause I just barely started ?

and I have nothing to comment about you so far ?

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:36 PM
It means, I rather put effort in people I think I can figure out their alignments and PoE the rest. You aren't in my priorities right now. I can talk with you plenty if you like, but I don't think I will sort you easier than some other players here.

I am very unpredictable. You will never expect what's coming for you.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:37 PM
Cause I just barely started ?

and I have nothing to comment about you so far ?

Can't even say Hi to me?
That makes me a sad panda.

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:37 PM
It's L-3. I can make it to L-2 for you.
secondpassing

Go blitz this.

NVM I cant count, L-1 lolol

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 10:37 PM
Unvote

NOOO you put her in L1

pedit : let me post FGS

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:38 PM
Unvote

NOOO you put her in L1

pedit : let me post FGS

I know I did

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:38 PM
We aren't quick hammering today.

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:38 PM
You guys are pussy

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:38 PM
I just laughed at 3 immediate unvotes lol.

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 10:39 PM
NVM I cant count, L-1 lolol

what about pushing an insta lynch is funny?!

why you didn't unvote?

pedit : :|

secondpassing

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 10:39 PM
got u. so you really want TPD gone?

I feel you are more informed and have clues and trying to force the lynch on certain people. Exactly what I'm expecting of mafia in this game. the way you voted people and moved to someone else and suddenly pushing it for a lynch (and asking others to join you on them) is extremly scummy

I like L2 votes secondpassing


Let's look at it from your perspective:
You think I am scummy for forcing out the Town Power Roles and you think that I'm making informed pushes. You are partially correct.


Here is what I think:
1. There is no TPR
2. The clue I have is that I am town. Also I read someone else strongly as town right now, so thats my clue.
3. Your play is blind

-> Question to ask yourself: How are you planning on winning this game?

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:40 PM
what about pushing an insta lynch is funny?!

why you didn't unvote?

pedit : :|

secondpassing

because I like leaving people in L-1

secondpassing

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:40 PM
I just laughed at 3 immediate unvotes lol.

Put her back to L-1 or I lose all respects for you

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:40 PM
Let's look at it from your perspective:
You think I am scummy for forcing out the Town Power Roles and you think that I'm making informed pushes. You are partially correct.


Here is what I think:
1. There is no TPR
2. The clue I have is that I am town. Also I read someone else strongly as town right now, so thats my clue.
3. Your play is blind

-> Question to ask yourself: How are you planning on winning this game?

There is a power roles they just aren't informed first of all.
Secondly we are going to win by sorting players and lynching the scum. Simple as that, this is where fundamentals of the game of mafia come in play.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:41 PM
Put her back to L-1 or I lose all respects for you

I honestly didn't know anyone had respect for me.

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:42 PM
I honestly didn't know anyone had respect for me.

Well you do now

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:42 PM
however you are slowly losing it

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:42 PM
Nah, I am fine with not being respected.

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 10:43 PM
Let's look at it from your perspective:
You think I am scummy for forcing out the Town Power Roles and you think that I'm making informed pushes. You are partially correct.


Here is what I think:
1. There is no TPR
2. The clue I have is that I am town. Also I read someone else strongly as town right now, so thats my clue.
3. Your play is blind

-> Question to ask yourself: How are you planning on winning this game?

1. There are 2 people as chosen town that mafia can't win the game if they are alive. Don't try to act like you don't know the setup
2. or maybe your mafia and you know who are the chosen towns? and who are the whole town members ?
3. *shrugs!* I beleive my play is very openminded.

-> Answer to your question : by not letting mafia lynch a chosen town and lynching all mafia ?

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 10:44 PM
because I like leaving people in L-1

secondpassing

hmmm

You love that as town or mafia ?

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:44 PM
I wonder why Calix doesn't use the new on site Count down timer?

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:44 PM
Let's look at it from your perspective:
You think I am scummy for forcing out the Town Power Roles and you think that I'm making informed pushes. You are partially correct.


Here is what I think:
1. There is no TPR
2. The clue I have is that I am town. Also I read someone else strongly as town right now, so thats my clue.
3. Your play is blind

-> Question to ask yourself: How are you planning on winning this game?

I know what i am going to do, criticize everything you say in this post

1. no shit
2. youre either lying or no shit
3. ok?

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:45 PM
hmmm

You love that as town or mafia ?

both

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:45 PM
1. There are 2 people as chosen town that mafia can't win the game if they are alive. Don't try to act like you don't know the setup
2. or maybe your mafia and you know who are the chosen towns? and who are the whole town members ?
3. *shrugs!* I beleive my play is very openminded.

-> Answer to your question : by not letting mafia lynch a chosen town and lynching all mafia ?

I don't like this post Frozen.

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 10:46 PM
I know what i am going to do, criticize everything you say in this post

1. no shit
2. youre either lying or no shit
3. ok?

That wasn't even directed at you. Why are you defending Frozen Angel? Let her respond to me by herself.

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:46 PM
I don't like this post Frozen.

I dont like this post Firebringer

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:46 PM
That wasn't even directed at you. Why are you defending Frozen Angel? Let her respond to me by herself.

ok?

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:46 PM
I dont like this post Firebringer

I will do better next time, honest.

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:48 PM
There are currently 4 users browsing this thread. (4 members and 0 guests)
powerofdeath*, Firebringer, Funce, secondpassing

I went to check to see if Funce was playing.

He isn't. I am sad now.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:48 PM
There are currently 4 users browsing this thread. (4 members and 0 guests)
powerofdeath*, Firebringer, Funce, secondpassing

I went to check to see if Funce was playing.

He isn't. I am sad now.

Am I not enough for you?

secondpassing
April 20th, 2016, 10:49 PM
1. There are 2 people as chosen town that mafia can't win the game if they are alive. Don't try to act like you don't know the setup
2. or maybe your mafia and you know who are the chosen towns? and who are the whole town members ?
3. *shrugs!* I beleive my play is very openminded.

-> Answer to your question : by not letting mafia lynch a chosen town and lynching all mafia ?

I actually didn't, in fact, I just reread it because I thought the reason you all unvoted might have had something to do with me being chosen, apparently it was a misunderstanding on my part. Either way, there is no TPR in this.
2. So then you have to think about who the heck I'm pushing?
3. You seemed very focused that you are right. I don't like playing with this kind of mindset within games, but okay.

-> I feel that pressuring a large number of people in our 72 hour day is the optimal play in getting a correct lynch off.

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 10:51 PM
I don't like this post Frozen.

hmm?

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:51 PM
I thought of a way for us to completely break the game. Then realized that lynches are mandatory ;(

We could honestly just skip every day till Mafia has killed everyone except the Chosen townies.
Scum would have to push for their lynches, would pretty much outhemselves if they pushed for lynches. Townies wouldn't have to lynch.

Meh, probably more fun this way.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:55 PM
Actually lets consider a few things here, based on setup


In the pre-game, the mafia can choose one player who cannot be Chosen

Who would you chose to not be Chosen if you were scum?
I think this is important for us to consider on the chances of someone is not Chosen at least, since at least thats partially not RNG.

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:56 PM
Am I not enough for you?

no

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 10:56 PM
I actually didn't, in fact, I just reread it because I thought the reason you all unvoted might have had something to do with me being chosen, apparently it was a misunderstanding on my part. Either way, there is no TPR in this.
2. So then you have to think about who the heck I'm pushing?
3. You seemed very focused that you are right. I don't like playing with this kind of mindset within games, but okay.

-> I feel that pressuring a large number of people in our 72 hour day is the optimal play in getting a correct lynch off.

1. so you claim you just started posting in game without knowing what is the game setup ? :/
2. I'm trying to understand who are you pushing and why are you pushing them.
3. I may seem a bunch of things. I'm very capable of changing my reads and pushes on a complete 180 degrees other side if needed. I do play aggressive when I want to read people.

-> so branching on people and stopping by on someone so early in day is pressuring a large number of people? and isn't that what mafia want? to make a mess out of pressures to lynch whoever they want?

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 10:57 PM
Actually lets consider a few things here, based on setup



Who would you chose to not be Chosen if you were scum?
I think this is important for us to consider on the chances of someone is not Chosen at least, since at least thats partially not RNG.

I wouldve chosen AIVION/Helz because I thought they would be a hydra

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 10:58 PM
I wouldve chosen AIVION/Helz because I thought they would be a hydra

Second choice if not them?
I think if anyone answers this, it will help us at least likely non chosen is lynched.

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 11:08 PM
I'm not sure. FB or helz as i saw how strong scum hunter she is since the MF.

or maybe SuperJack.

Firebringer
April 20th, 2016, 11:11 PM
Yeah, I think the choices for most are going to be around the same. I would think AIVION/Helz or Frozen would be my choices.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 11:19 PM
huh. I vote whenever I'm satisfied with it! RVS or not RVS . I don't care.

and you didn't answer my second question about second passing.

I did though. You left; secondpassing was live in the thread and voted before I said "why didn't you vote" so I started digesting their confusing posts.

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 11:26 PM
This is what I asked.


what about him voting make a difference in the fact they didn't vote in RVS / first post that was different from what I did ?

It was 10 pm and I was tired I left to sleep. She came by posted to check in and left.

what was different about this two in the first place. I don't care about the fact she came back , pushed and voted. I did the same.

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 11:31 PM
Second choice if not them?
I think if anyone answers this, it will help us at least likely non chosen is lynched.

To be honest, if I was mafia, I would probably just let my partner make the choice, I'm like that.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 11:33 PM
This is what I asked.



It was 10 pm and I was tired I left to sleep. She came by posted to check in and left.

what was different about this two in the first place. I don't care about the fact she came back , pushed and voted. I did the same.

I asked you around 3 (my time), secondpassing posted around an hour later. I popped in at 4:45 right before I get off work to puck up my son (at 5). At 6 when I was home and posting again, I was going to ask secondpassing the same question, but they voted me.

I think you're looking at this in a weird way.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 11:34 PM
Pick up*

Damnit

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 11:37 PM
In what weird way? You feel frustrated by my repetitive detail-based aggressive questioning style on things you think they don't matter ?

Anyway I'm satisfied with your answer. any comments about the second passing wagon ?

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 11:37 PM
Also secondpassing hit L-1 way too easily there. The quick inviting seems town motivated from several players but that was still really fast and raises eyebrows.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 11:38 PM
In what weird way? You feel frustrated by my repetitive detail-based aggressive questioning style on things you think they don't matter ?

Anyway I'm satisfied with your answer. any comments about the second passing wagon ?

Not frustrated. Slightly annoyed that that went on longer than it should have.

See above for my thoughts on SP wagon.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 11:39 PM
Unvoting, not inviting. FML

Frozen Angel
April 20th, 2016, 11:44 PM
who raised your eyebrow more ?

why?

powerofdeath
April 20th, 2016, 11:44 PM
Unvoting, not inviting. FML

You are a dinosaur.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 11:48 PM
who raised your eyebrow more ?

why?

POD, for putting them at L-1 and leaving them there. I don't find SP scummy, and that was very bandwagon-y. I feel like SP is exhibiting Mikecall-ish behavior and knowing our track record (sc2mafia) of putting someone at L-1 for bad reasons, and hammering way early and without a claim all the time, its irresponsible as a town to do that.

I don't regard POD as a top tier player however, so it's eyebrow raising but could also just be POD being a troll.

BananaCucho
April 20th, 2016, 11:49 PM
Also even though there is just town to claim, the point still stands.

Calix
April 20th, 2016, 11:50 PM
Are the mafia sent their rolecards twice? (Second one with the chosen town on it)
If not, when do the mafia know who the chosen towns are?

Mafia are informed of who the Chosen Towns are at the start of Day 1

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 12:06 AM
I still want everyone to answer the question.

powerofdeath
April 21st, 2016, 12:10 AM
POD, for putting them at L-1 and leaving them there. I don't find SP scummy, and that was very bandwagon-y. I feel like SP is exhibiting Mikecall-ish behavior and knowing our track record (sc2mafia) of putting someone at L-1 for bad reasons, and hammering way early and without a claim all the time, its irresponsible as a town to do that.

I don't regard POD as a top tier player however, so it's eyebrow raising but could also just be POD being a troll.

wow i feel hecked
im hurt
i go cri now

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 12:11 AM
wow i feel hecked
im hurt
i go cri now

I consider you in my top 9 for this game bb.
I am no. 10.

powerofdeath
April 21st, 2016, 12:16 AM
I consider you in my top 9 for this game bb.
I am no. 10.

I consider you in my bottom 9 for this game bb.

I am no. 1.

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 12:18 AM
Wow. That L1 on second passing whilst I was sleeping.

powerofdeath
April 21st, 2016, 12:19 AM
Wow. That L1 on second passing whilst I was sleeping.

whats your impression on secondpassing's reaction to being put in L-1

powerofdeath
April 21st, 2016, 12:20 AM
Wow. That L1 on second passing whilst I was sleeping.

whats your impression on the awesome cat putting him on L-1?

powerofdeath
April 21st, 2016, 12:20 AM
Wow. That L1 on second passing whilst I was sleeping.

How did you sleep last night? Did you dream about this game?

powerofdeath
April 21st, 2016, 12:20 AM
Wow. That L1 on second passing whilst I was sleeping.

Define love.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 12:22 AM
Define love.

What is love!?!?!?
Baby don't hurt me.
Don't hurt.
No more!

Excalibur
April 21st, 2016, 12:29 AM
What is love!?!?!?
Baby don't hurt me.
Don't hurt.
No more!

Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Loneliness hurts. Starting a day without coffee and cream hurts. Envy hurts, especially if it's of Excalibur. Rejection hurts. Being called a fool hurts. Love does not hurt, love in reality is the only thing that covers all pain. As a young boy working his way to be a Miester one should not have to show his school report card to potential adoptive parents to prove his worthiness of being loved. Love is the only thing no one needs provisions to be worthy of.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 12:33 AM
Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Loneliness hurts. Starting a day without coffee and cream hurts. Envy hurts, especially if it's of Excalibur. Rejection hurts. Being called a fool hurts. Love does not hurt, love in reality is the only thing that covers all pain. As a young boy working his way to be a Miester one should not have to show his school report card to potential adoptive parents to prove his worthiness of being loved. Love is the only thing no one needs provisions to be worthy of.

How are you today Slaol?

powerofdeath
April 21st, 2016, 12:34 AM
Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Fool! Loneliness hurts. Starting a day without coffee and cream hurts. Envy hurts, especially if it's of Excalibur. Rejection hurts. Being called a fool hurts. Love does not hurt, love in reality is the only thing that covers all pain. As a young boy working his way to be a Miester one should not have to show his school report card to potential adoptive parents to prove his worthiness of being loved. Love is the only thing no one needs provisions to be worthy of.

Wait?! Are you a hydra?

Excalibur
April 21st, 2016, 12:36 AM
Wait?! Are you a hydra?

Fool! Excalibur is the mightiest weapon in all the land.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 12:37 AM
No, its Slaol.

BananaCucho
April 21st, 2016, 12:39 AM
This is why yoi have to be careful who you tell your secrets to.

powerofdeath
April 21st, 2016, 12:40 AM
Fool! Excalibur is the mightiest weapon in all the land.

FOOL! the awesome cat refused to be called a fool!

Excalibur

Excalibur
April 21st, 2016, 12:40 AM
No, its Slaol.

Fool! Excalibur is a weapon with many meisters. He is quite cosmopolitan in his likes. Except for carrots, provison number 278: I hate carrots.

powerofdeath
April 21st, 2016, 12:41 AM
This is why yoi have to be careful who you tell your secrets to.

My biggest secret is that I lied to Jaaycee. Probably meaningless to people on this site but its a huge thing for me.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 12:41 AM
This is why yoi have to be careful who you tell your secrets to.

Yeah, secret alt to troll, not cool.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 12:41 AM
My biggest secret is that I lied to Jaaycee. Probably meaningless to people on this site but its a huge thing for me.

Thats unforgivable.

BananaCucho
April 21st, 2016, 12:42 AM
This is my first game with Excalibur. Does he eventually at least vote seriously?

powerofdeath
April 21st, 2016, 12:47 AM
Thats unforgivable.

It really is. He kinda got banned for 8 months.

powerofdeath
April 21st, 2016, 12:47 AM
This is my first game with Excalibur. Does he eventually at least vote seriously?

never

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 12:48 AM
This is my first game with Excalibur. Does he eventually at least vote seriously?

No.

powerofdeath
April 21st, 2016, 12:48 AM
No.

glad we agree

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:15 AM
Excalibur

Because. Seriousness.

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:16 AM
Oh yaaar someone asked meh I somting I'll go read and replay.

BananaCucho
April 21st, 2016, 01:23 AM
Thanks for answering my question POD.

Excalibur

Let's get rid of it. Idk why Calix let it into this game, other than for this to happen.

Grab your torches and pitchforks! Banana's calling for a policy lynch.

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:25 AM
That would mean that SuperJack would have to be scum first. All it meant was that if SuperJack was mafia, then Frozen Angel is probably mafia/target he doesn't actually want lynched.
So yeah, I'm thinking that maybe him and Elsa are buddies or something. Or nothing, doesn't mean anything if they are town.

Oh sheit I voted the only person to gave spoken. So if she flips mafia then I must also be mafia!

Or that you're setting foundations for a future mis lunch on me.

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:26 AM
My typing errors are getting worse and worse :/ but you all know what I mean and love me right? ^^

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:28 AM
Secondpassing you aren't making much sense.

Er. He is. He has super good points and thought :) I like it ^^ nomnom

Frozen Angel
April 21st, 2016, 01:29 AM
I do hate Policy Lynches. its like treating people as garbage.

I look at that as a last minute solution. We need to negotiate and live with every kind of people (not talking only about the game)

that being said i will wait to see what will the slot do later in game.

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:30 AM
They should change me to noob.
Now, want to talk about why you think TDL is scummy? Of everyone so far I think TDL and SuperJack seem the most townie.

What the fuck. Why am I Townie and TDL?

Other than neither of us not doing Jack all.

Hehe. I just used my own name.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 01:31 AM
I do hate Policy Lynches. its like treating people as garbage.

I look at that as a last minute solution. We need to negotiate and live with every kind of people (not talking only about the game)

that being said i will wait to see what will the slot do later in game.

I agree with Frozen here.
We aren't policy lynching unless their is no strong scumreads.
Also pushing fora policy lynch when we have 2 whole days left to find scum?

You guys are being lazy and anti town.

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:33 AM
I do hate Policy Lynches. its like treating people as garbage.

I look at that as a last minute solution. We need to negotiate and live with every kind of people (not talking only about the game)

that being said i will wait to see what will the slot do later in game.

Hate policy lynches also. But after town lynching themselves because they refused to let a pure lurker be lynched. And instead just played with each other. Town lost

So Yeh. I'm gonna vote someone up. And they are going to partake. If not they can be lynched. And if they are town it's their own shirty I fault. And if they are Scum then noncommittal lynch!

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:34 AM
Yeh but not having another game of people getting away with doing fuck all. So it's pressure to play and reads. If not then we lynchy.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 01:36 AM
SuperJack can you pick two players you wouldn't want to be Chosen if you were scum?

BananaCucho
April 21st, 2016, 01:40 AM
I do hate Policy Lynches. its like treating people as garbage.

I look at that as a last minute solution. We need to negotiate and live with every kind of people (not talking only about the game)

that being said i will wait to see what will the slot do later in game.

I usually hate policy lynches too

But this account was made by a staff member to troll. It won't play. Look at its other games. 100% troll, nothing more.

If the account starts playing I'll move my vote. Otherwise you'll have to lynch me to get my vote off it. Taking a firm stance on this one.

BananaCucho
April 21st, 2016, 01:41 AM
Its not a bad player. The staff member is very good.

Its a smurf troll.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 01:42 AM
BananaCucho Answer my question:
If you were scum what two players would you not pick as Chosen?

Frozen Angel
April 21st, 2016, 01:42 AM
Superjack what you're suggesting is not policy lynching ... :|

People are responsible to look town. if their not then their playing Anti Town. I do beleive lynching scummy players > lynching Anti town players and I do beleive that Anti Town moves are not necessarily scummy but meh!

There need to be a balance about it here . and instant lynching someone for bad meta is not in the balance I mentioned and it's not negotiable with me.

pedit : I don't care. their in game they have chance to play.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 01:44 AM
Please don't tell me this is going to be another S-FM Cold War, where we spend all game arguing the merits of a policy lynch on day 1 instead of doing any scumhunting.

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:44 AM
whats your impression on secondpassing's reaction to being put in L-1

I read Sp as town.

BananaCucho
April 21st, 2016, 01:44 AM
Superjack what you're suggesting is not policy lynching ... :|

People are responsible to look town. if their not then their playing Anti Town. I do beleive lynching scummy players > lynching Anti town players and I do beleive that Anti Town moves are not necessarily scummy but meh!

There need to be a balance about it here . and instant lynching someone for bad meta is not in the balance I mentioned and it's not negotiable with me.

pedit : I don't care. their in game they have chance to play.

They won't play. People say I'm a toxic player for insulting others, but this account is a meme that won't even vote seriously. Not playing with it.

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:45 AM
I usually hate policy lynches too

But this account was made by a staff member to troll. It won't play. Look at its other games. 100% troll, nothing more.

If the account starts playing I'll move my vote. Otherwise you'll have to lynch me to get my vote off it. Taking a firm stance on this one.

This.

Frozen Angel
April 21st, 2016, 01:46 AM
Please don't tell me this is going to be another S-FM Cold War, where we spend all game arguing the merits of a policy lynch on day 1 instead of doing any scumhunting.

I don't know that game but i understand what you mean
Why do you think I said Its not negotiable with me?! :D

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 01:46 AM
BananaCucho

Not doing a policy lynch, though you ignoring a simple question is looking more scummy by the second.

BananaCucho
April 21st, 2016, 01:47 AM
I really don't know why Mafia Jesus (Calix) even let it in

Excalibur
April 21st, 2016, 01:49 AM
Fools! King Arthur himself, the miester who saw all 1,000 provisions himself has handed us the answers.

For victory and glory!

Bananacucho


This is my first game with Excalibur. Does he eventually at least vote seriously?


Thanks for answering my question POD.

Excalibur

Let's get rid of it. Idk why Calix let it into this game, other than for this to happen.

Grab your torches and pitchforks! Banana's calling for a policy lynch.


I usually hate policy lynches too

But this account was made by a staff member to troll. It won't play. Look at its other games. 100% troll, nothing more.

If the account starts playing I'll move my vote. Otherwise you'll have to lynch me to get my vote off it. Taking a firm stance on this one.


Its not a bad player. The staff member is very good.

Its a smurf troll.


They won't play. People say I'm a toxic player for insulting others, but this account is a meme that won't even vote seriously. Not playing with it.

A weapon's job, even one as mighty and victorious as myself, is to amplify that which his meister hopes to do. It is up to the meister to find patterns in the movement of his opponent and strike with the fury allowed to him by my glory.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 01:51 AM
If no one understands why I am asking this question about not chosen its for actually good reasons. It gives us a idea of who can't be chosen, which gives us a idea of who we shouldn't lynch.

Frozen Angel
April 21st, 2016, 01:51 AM
A weapon's job, even one as mighty and victorious as myself, is to amplify that which his meister hopes to do. It is up to the meister to find patterns in the movement of his opponent and strike with the fury allowed to him by my glory.

You're not a weapon. Your a player.

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:52 AM
Superjack what you're suggesting is not policy lynching ... :|

People are responsible to look town. if their not then their playing Anti Town. I do beleive lynching scummy players > lynching Anti town players and I do beleive that Anti Town moves are not necessarily scummy but meh!

There need to be a balance about it here . and instant lynching someone for bad meta is not in the balance I mentioned and it's not negotiable with me.

pedit : I don't care. their in game they have chance to play.

But none of my Scum reads are heavy enough to mean more than making him play the game.

I've only just read the latest worthless posting he did.

My intent is to make this person partake. I'm not having a wifom slot sit their and do nothing all game. I would rather have Ika play blackberries.

BananaCucho
April 21st, 2016, 01:53 AM
You're not a weapon. Your a player.

Good luck with that. You're talking to a meme.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 01:53 AM
But none of my Scum reads are heavy enough to mean more than making him play the game.

I've only just read the latest worthless posting he did.

My intent is to make this person partake. I'm not having a wifom slot sit their and do nothing all game. I would rather have Ika play blackberries.

Vote Banana to get her to answer the question.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 01:53 AM
You're not a weapon. Your a player.

Angel, lets vote Banana, she is dodging my question.

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:54 AM
A weapon's job, even one as mighty and victorious as myself, is to amplify that which his meister hopes to do. It is up to the meister to find patterns in the movement of his opponent and strike with the fury allowed to him by my glory.

Ill melt you down for scrap and turn you into recycled tins.

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:55 AM
If no one understands why I am asking this question about not chosen its for actually good reasons. It gives us a idea of who can't be chosen, which gives us a idea of who we shouldn't lynch.

Not chosen is going to a player who is going to be difficult to lynch. And easy to kill.

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:56 AM
Not chosen is going to a player who is going to be difficult to lynch. And easy to kill.

That's if the Scum isn't idiots.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 01:56 AM
Ugh, I am screaming at a wall at this point. I should just go to bed.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 01:56 AM
Not chosen is going to a player who is going to be difficult to lynch. And easy to kill.

Thats not answering my previous question >.>

Frozen Angel
April 21st, 2016, 01:57 AM
why you two are dodging FB's question ?

pedit : and who is that for you ?

BananaCucho
April 21st, 2016, 01:58 AM
why you two are dodging FB's question ?

pedit : and who is that for you ?

Who?

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 01:59 AM
Frozen and Banana. They would be difficult to lynch.
I didn't read your question haha. I read the wrong one. (Sorry)

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 02:02 AM
Frozen and Banana. They would be difficult to lynch.
I didn't read your question haha. I read the wrong one. (Sorry)

Thank you. <3
Now move your vote to banana.

Everyone should answer this question.

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 02:03 AM
Thank you. <3
Now move your vote to banana.

Everyone should answer this question.

No. My vote stays. Trying to derail pressure away from the sword? So that he can continue trolling?

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 02:05 AM
No. My vote stays. Trying to derail pressure away from the sword? So that he can continue trolling?

I am not derailing your pressure. If a player doesn't give two shits about your pressure, which by all accounts it seems like it, it won't do anything.

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 02:06 AM
I am not derailing your pressure. If a player doesn't give two shits about your pressure, which by all accounts it seems like it, it won't do anything.

Then they shall be lynched. For I am SuperJack. And this is my will.

Frozen Angel
April 21st, 2016, 02:07 AM
Who?

you ?

SuperJack
April 21st, 2016, 02:07 AM
I am not derailing your pressure. If a player doesn't give two shits about your pressure, which by all accounts it seems like it, it won't do anything.

When people sit back and allow it like you are doing. It only encourages them to continue.

Firebringer
April 21st, 2016, 02:08 AM
you ?

Frozen, Banana is ignoring me. I noticed it over the last few several pages of her not engaging me at all.
She is intentionally pretending I don't exist in this game.

Its cute, if it weren't kind of making her harder to read.

BananaCucho
April 21st, 2016, 02:16 AM
When people sit back and allow it like you are doing. It only encourages them to continue.

I'm surprised the FM staff hasn't done anything about it yet. Actually, I'm not surprised.