S-FM 189 Charmander's Revenge: Brotherhood

[BananaCucho]

Link to the setup: (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/35471-S-FM-Charmanders-Revenge-Brotherhood)

Night 1/Day 2 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/35608-S-FM-190-Charmander-s-Revenge-Brotherhood/page5?p=583280#post583280)

Night 2/Day 3 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/35608-S-FM-190-Charmander-s-Revenge-Brotherhood/page8?p=584139#post584139)

Charmander's Revenge: Brotherhood


Night 0

Only two weeks after starting his journey to catch them all, Pokemon Trainer Red has grown impatient with his starter pokemon, Charmander. Having obtained a Squirtle and Bulbasaur as well during this time, Red foolishly mistook Charmander as the weakest starter. While charmander tried his best, in his early levels he only knew scratch and growl, and was having a hard time leveling up. Leaving him by the side of the road, Pokemon Trainer Red decided to set off without him.

The wild pokemon in the area were wary and did not trust Charmander nor welcome him.

Alone and scared, rain began to fall upon the wild pokemon as the sun set. As he sought shelter, Charmander started to plot his revenge against Red and his starter brothers... and nobody would stand in his way.

http://31.media.tumblr.com/ffe19af41b07d1a48db45a793a0806d3/tumblr_mjbb9t8gSo1r72ht7o1_500.gif

Meanwhile, Squirtle and Bulbasaur ran away from their trainer Red once they found out what had happened. Determined to find their brother Charmander, they set out into the forest to look for him.

Players List

1 - Clarence
2 - Empathy17 (ika+Silverwolf)
3 - Fire Viking (RLVG+Firebringer)
4 - SparkNuts
5 - Gyrlander
6 - Morp (MattZed+Orpz)
7 - Slaol
8 - SUPERDUCK (SuperJack+PLZLEAVEDUCK)
9 - Richard Dawkins (Brendan+FYRE)
10 - Keiichi (AIVION+Sen)


Roles List

Charmander
Bulbasaur
Squirtle
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Pokemon Trainer Red


Graveyard
None

Day 1 will begin in:

01:08:41:00

[BananaCucho]

Day 1

As the sun rose, the wild pokemon returned from their shelters to see what had become of Charmander, but he was no where to be found. In the distance, the wild pokemon saw many rattata running from the forest, scared of a new menace that had been occupying it.


http://25.media.tumblr.com/ab8d70a8690e7cf3bb78f93fa8246b3c/tumblr_mg897orfPE1qd87hlo1_500.gif


The wild pokemon set off to stop this menace. They enjoyed their peaceful lives. While weak individually, their strength lay in their numbers. Little did they realize that in the shadows another danger watched them, pokeball in hand, ready to conquer the world ahead of him.



Players List

1 - Clarence
2 - Empathy17 (ika+Silverwolf)
3 - Fire Viking (RLVG+Firebringer)
4 - SparkNuts
5 - Gyrlander
6 - Morp (MattZed+Orpz)
7 - Slaol
8 - SUPERDUCK (SuperJack+PLZLEAVEDUCK)
9 - Richard Dawkins (Brendan+FYRE)
10 - Keiichi (AIVION+Sen)



Roles List

Charmander
Bulbasaur
Squirtle
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Pokemon Trainer Red


Graveyard

None

Please ask host questions in green if there are any.

Day 1 ends in:

02:00:00:00

With 10 players alive, it takes 6

[Fire Viking]

Round 2 of this hydra!

Will we do better this time around?
Probably not.

:P

I enjoyed hydra with RLVG though, so I am sure we will do great this time around.

-Fire

[Slaol]

Slaol. Why I didn't sign on my Slaolamaner smurf I'll never know.

[Fire Viking]

Morp

You know what you two did!!!

-Fire

[Keiichi]

Hello, Illuminati here.

Just gonna eliminate our target:

Morp

HUEHUE.

[Slaol]

Morpzedd would have been better. Chance missed.

[Slaol]

Morp

[Fire Viking]

Hello, Illuminati here.

Just gonna eliminate our target:

Morp

HUEHUE.

You are the illuminati? Good, you are my partner.

-Fire

[Morp]

Vote me or you're scum.

t. Orpz

[Fire Viking]

Vote me or you're scum.

t. Orpz

I am. Everyone here besides you are voting you.
Are you charmander? Captured Pokemon or Trainer Red?

If you are part of the cult, admit to it now and we will go easily on you.

-Fire

[Keiichi]

You are the illuminati? Good, you are my partner.

-Fire

Yep, I'm your Grand Wizard Brah.

INFILTRATE THE MAFIA CHAT AND WIN THIS DAY 2 GG NO RE

[Slaol]

Vote me or you're scum.

t. Orpz

Mattzed and Orpz combined means this would be the post they would say if they were scum. I support this lynch whole heartedly.

[SUPERDUCK]

Claiming town or charmander. Ash abandonded his pidgetto in season 1 and never came back, and the rng god's would never make me become what I hate.

-vote fire

[Fire Viking]

Yep, I'm your Grand Wizard Brah.

INFILTRATE THE MAFIA CHAT AND WIN THIS DAY 2 GG NO RE

You have the mayor votes right?
Reveal Day 2 so we can instant win.

-Fire

[Keiichi]

You have the mayor votes right?
Reveal Day 2 so we can instant win.

-Fire

HELL YA BRAH! GONNA MAKE THE MAFIA SHOOT EACH OTHER AND HAMMER THE OTHER.

THEN JUST PLAY THE TOWN!

[Fire Viking]

HELL YA BRAH! GONNA MAKE THE MAFIA SHOOT EACH OTHER AND HAMMER THE OTHER.

THEN JUST PLAY THE TOWN!

Wait, this setup doesn't erase last wills and rolls.
Theres a flaw in our plan.

Damn it, if only host would gives us Janitor too!

-Fire

[Morp]

omg too much PRESSURE

but im NOT GONNA CLAIM YET

t. Orpz

[Keiichi]

Wait, this setup doesn't erase last wills and rolls.
Theres a flaw in our plan.

Damn it, if only host would gives us Janitor too!

-Fire

Damnit Brah! WHY DIDN'T YOU SEE THIS COMING?!? SOME ILLUMINATI PARTNER YOU ARE.

[Fire Viking]

omg too much PRESSURE

but im NOT GONNA CLAIM YET

t. Orpz

Host gave me all the roles from beginning and I have access to night chat.
its game already man.

-Fire

[Keiichi]

Host gave me all the roles from beginning and I have access to night chat.
its game already man.

-Fire

Hell ya Brah! That's my Infiltrator!

NOW "ASSUME" THE POSITION!

[Slaol]

I legit think Morpzedd is the scumzedd

[Fire Viking]

Okay I am done grilling MZ and Orpz.
I can't promise that I will put same effort I did in that previous game though.

That game really has made me disheartened to attempt to try.

-Fire

[Morp]

Host gave me all the roles from beginning and I have access to night chat.
its game already man.

-Fire

It would be extremely painful.

FOR YOU

t. Orpz

[Morp]

I legit think Morpzedd is the scumzedd

Wrong. But the fact that you cared to put some thought into my first post best post troll post showed that you're interested in scumhunting early, which is a good sign. Once I stop shitposting (probably latter half of D1), I can start doing reads. Oh, and Mattzed's taking the night off. All the pressure on us 20 minutes into Day 1 gave him PTSD.

t. Orpz

[Morp]

Why did Bane start working out?

Nobody cared who he was until he put on the mass.

[Fire Viking]

I think Morp and SUPERDUCK are our cult.
I push Morp and SUPERDUCK votes me. Coincidence?
I think not.

-FIre

[Slaol]

I think Morp and SUPERDUCK are our cult.
I push Morp and SUPERDUCK votes me. Coincidence?
I think not.

-FIre

not insane

my vote stays

[SUPERDUCK]

You said the host gave you the roles, you should know we are cult. So which is it, you think or know we are cult?

-Duck

[Fire Viking]

You said the host gave you the roles, you should know we are cult. So which is it, you think or know we are cult?

-Duck

I have to pretend I don't know so nobody calls foul at the end of the game. But trust me, I went into Banana account before I lost warden powers. I read the role pms that were sent out.

-Fire

[SUPERDUCK]

I have to pretend I don't know so nobody calls foul at the end of the game. But trust me, I went into Banana account before I lost warden powers. I read the role pms that were sent out.

-Fire

Already pretending to be something you are not?

[Morp]

Thanks for defending me Superduck.

t. Orpz

[SUPERDUCK]

It will be the first and last time I defend a person with a protoss avatar

-duck

[Morp]

It will be the first and last time I defend a person with a protoss avatar

-duck

Protoss is the truth. Easiest Diamond rank I've ever gotten. 4-Gate for days.

t. Orpz

[Keiichi]

My pidgeot flew away.

[SUPERDUCK]

My pidgeot flew away.

Do you have any thoughts on the early interaction with me pressuring fire/deflecting off morp and then distancing from morp after being called out?

Also only a trainer would have a pidgeot already. Did he leave you because he does not respect who you culted?

[Gyrlander]

Vine Whip!

[Keiichi]

Do you have any thoughts on the early interaction with me pressuring fire/deflecting off morp and then distancing from morp after being called out?
Not really. I'm kind of tired / inebriated right now and only came to join the shitposting. I'll post some actual content once I get some free time tomorrow.

[Richard Dawkins]

You can't even begin to understand biology, you can't understand life, unless you understand what it's all there for, how it arose - and that means evolution.

Regards,

Richard Dawkins

[Gyrlander]

I think the pokemon trainer should be able to capture 6 pokemons. Just 3 isn't being true to the game. Squish.

[SUPERDUCK]

I think the pokemon trainer should be able to capture 6 pokemons. Just 3 isn't being true to the game. Squish.

Irrelevant, we are lynching kieichi today.

-Duck

[Keiichi]

Irrelevant, we are lynching kieichi today.

-Duck

We are lynching your mom today.

[Richard Dawkins]

We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Arabia. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively exceeds the set of actual people. In the teeth of these stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here.We privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state from which the vast majority have never stirred?

Warm greetings,

Richard Dawkins

[Clarence]

Hello

[Fire Viking]

Okay I just want to go into this player list right now:

1 - Clarence
2 - Empathy17 (ika+Silverwolf)
3 - Fire Viking (RLVG+Firebringer)
4 - SparkNuts
5 - Gyrlander
6 - Morp (MattZed+Orpz)
7 - Slaol
8 - SUPERDUCK (SuperJack+PLZLEAVEDUCK)
9 - Richard Dawkins (Brendan+FYRE)
10 - Keiichi (AIVION+Sen)


Random guesses on roles:

Keiichi-Magikarp
GrylanderMagikarp
???-Magikarp
Clarence-Pokemon Trainer Red
Slaol-Magikarp
Morp-Charmander
Richard Dawkins-Magikarp

Everything else is WIFOM.
Also, Orpz you need to make Keiichi a hydra account.

I don't see Clarence, SparkNuts or Slaol participating much for the town. So they need more focus tomorrow, cause we aren't likely going to focus them today.

-Fire

[Fire Viking]

Vine Whip!

I use Bubble on you, sir.

[Fire Viking]

If no one can tell, I am town and I am going to lead this shit to victory.
Pokemon Trainer Red should have recruited me, the fool.

I am not letting a repeat of last game. I will shut down all fricking discredits in their track.
Aggressive fire is here.

And he will destroy you scum.

Town, join me.
Scum, fear me.

For I am the Fire!

[Fire Viking]

I enjoyed hydra with RLVG though, so I am sure we will do great this time around.

-Fire

We're so fucked.


Claiming town or charmander. Ash abandonded his pidgetto in season 1 and never came back, and the rng god's would never make me become what I hate.

-vote fire

So you're either Town or Charmander, depending on what you hate. M'kay. FUckInG noted.


I think the pokemon trainer should be able to capture 6 pokemons. Just 3 isn't being true to the game. Squish.

It's the Nuzlocke Challenge, so it's entirely justified.



I think Superduck is a good pressure target, all the trolling cast aside.
This breadcrumb of possibly being Charmander, ermagud.

Let's see if my other personality agrees.

SUPERDUCK

~ RLVG

[SUPERDUCK]

Okay I just want to go into this player list right now:

1 - Clarence
2 - Empathy17 (ika+Silverwolf)
3 - Fire Viking (RLVG+Firebringer)
4 - SparkNuts
5 - Gyrlander
6 - Morp (MattZed+Orpz)
7 - Slaol
8 - SUPERDUCK (SuperJack+PLZLEAVEDUCK)
9 - Richard Dawkins (Brendan+FYRE)
10 - Keiichi (AIVION+Sen)


Random guesses on roles:

Keiichi-Magikarp
GrylanderMagikarp
???-Magikarp
Clarence-Pokemon Trainer Red
Slaol-Magikarp
Morp-Charmander
Richard Dawkins-Magikarp

Everything else is WIFOM.
Also, Orpz you need to make Keiichi a hydra account.

I don't see Clarence, SparkNuts or Slaol participating much for the town. So they need more focus tomorrow, cause we aren't likely going to focus them today.

-Fire

I don't understand your list. Your list clearly hints you think I am a PR (you list every role but for bulba squirtle and magikarp, and if you believe I am magikarp then you choose to openly out as PR). Neither play makes sense unless you are trying to hint to a cult teammate places to pressure for a mislynch.

Your list is scummy to me, why do you have reads on everyone, even if they are loose/random. I like the morp read a lot, but am also curious how your list ignored anyone being a new cult. You pinged me and morp out as cult, what made your read on this change? Do you still read me as cult?

Maybe I am looking too much into early game loose reads...

[SUPERDUCK]

What makes you think I am a good pressure target? (I have been waiting for this for awhile and have a specific answer I am looking for)
bring the fire baby, i wanna crumble under your sweet ashes.

Also I keep forgetting to -duck so hopefully SJ will remember to sign his posts because I suck at it

[Fire Viking]

I don't understand your list. Your list clearly hints you think I am a PR (you list every role but for bulba squirtle and magikarp, and if you believe I am magikarp then you choose to openly out as PR). Neither play makes sense unless you are trying to hint to a cult teammate places to pressure for a mislynch.

Your list is scummy to me, why do you have reads on everyone, even if they are loose/random. I like the morp read a lot, but am also curious how your list ignored anyone being a new cult. You pinged me and morp out as cult, what made your read on this change? Do you still read me as cult?

Maybe I am looking too much into early game loose reads...

Actually no. You missed the point which shows some scum motivation.
First off, relook at the list:

Empathy17-Bulba/Squirt/Magikarp
Fire Viking-Bulba/Squirt/Magikarp
SuperDuck-Bulba/Squirt/Magikarp
SparkNutes-Bulba/Squirt/Magikarp

^ See that?

-Fire

[Fire Viking]

What makes you think I am a good pressure target? (I have been waiting for this for awhile and have a specific answer I am looking for)
bring the fire baby, i wanna crumble under your sweet ashes.

Also I keep forgetting to -duck so hopefully SJ will remember to sign his posts because I suck at it

You're breadcrumbing Charmander and if you're it, you're hoping that the Enemy Scum will recruit you so that the two of you are united as fuck.

~ RLVG

[Fire Viking]

RLVG now thinsk you are Charmander, which means Morp is town and Bulba/Squrit/Magikarp
So that should be reconsidered.

-Fire

[Fire Viking]

RLVG, don't forget that Pokemon Trainer Red recruited. Its possible like in last game that Charmander was already recruited.
We should be looking for some associations today as well.

-Fire

[Fire Viking]

RLVG, don't forget that Pokemon Trainer Red recruited. Its possible like in last game that Charmander was already recruited.
We should be looking for some associations today as well.

-Fire

Ohh yeah, except when the Trainer Red didn't recruit Charmander yet but someone else, making the breadcrumb valid.
Hmm.

Superduck could also be Red doing a RED herring to not get lynched since we might focus on finding Red so they don't recruit.

~ RLVG

[SUPERDUCK]

Eh I read ??? as being a person, the list is not as egregious now I suppose.... actually no it is still pretty odd. You still have not said why you switched from morp and I being cult to it being clarence by himself.

-Charmander Char

[Fire Viking]

-Charmander Char

Yepp, we're totally lynching this guy now.

~ RLVG

[SUPERDUCK]

Yepp, we're totally lynching this guy now.

~ RLVG

If only I had rolled dugtrio so I could dig my way out of this tunnel. I wish you luck in voting to lynch me.

Since you did not like it the first time

-Char char charmander

[Fire Viking]

If only I had rolled dugtrio so I could dig my way out of this tunnel. I wish you luck in voting to lynch me.

Since you did not like it the first time

-Char char charmander

If only I had rolled Klefki so I could unlock that heart of yours.

What first time? Seriously, I don't get this sentence.

Also more Charmander taunting. You do know it's a Scum role, right?

~ RLVG

[SUPERDUCK]

If only I had rolled Klefki so I could unlock that heart of yours.

What first time? Seriously, I don't get this sentence.

Also more Charmander taunting. You do know it's a Scum role, right?

~ RLVG

Oh I thought dousing them with ash was a friendly way to keep them warm at night... my bad. Do you expect me to take your read seriously after your partner has been all over the place? I see where your read is coming from, but it was more of a joke about how ash abandons all of his good pokemon (butterfree, pidgetto, squirtle, charizard, etc.)

Also it looks to me like fire culted somebody he thought would go under the radar day one (keiichi) and stepped in to steer town in a different direction after keiichi was pinged out.

6 am will probably be going to sleep soon, SuperJack let me know your thoughts when you get on!

-Duck

[Clarence]

I'll leave my vote on Keiichi

[Empathy17]

Hi, Empathy is here and checking in.

~SW

[Empathy17]

Quick read through.

Superduck

I do not like the interaction with Fire Viking.

~SW

[SUPERDUCK]

Quick read through.

Superduck

I do not like the interaction with Fire Viking.

~SW

My R.E. teacher tells me that a good answer is a Wizard of Oz answer.

Why?
Because, because, because, because, because.

So why do you not like the interactions.

__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ________

From what I've seen, FireViking is needle picking at some roleplay that PLD posted and focusing on that. Here have a Shiny Badge.
BUT. They seem to be one of the very few people really getting involved showing opinions and trying to legitimately play.

Yet they seem to of avoided looking for other breadcrumbs. Dispite seeming to be looking for them.

Hello, Illuminati here.

Just gonna eliminate our target:

Morp

HUEHUE.


My pidgeot flew away.

^Red Trainer Crumbs

So they seem to of picked the new player PLD (My Partner) to especially pick on as low hanging fruit.

__________________________________________________ _____________________________________________

These people, seeing this going on and refusing to voice opinions or talk:
Clarence
Empathy17
Richard Dawkins

Then we have the players who just have posted without saying anything:
Slaol
Gyrlander

Not going to comment on people who are not here yet. (SparkNuts)

And I'll have to read into these two players more before I voice an opinion about them:
Keiichi
Morp

[SUPERDUCK]

~SJ~

[SparkNuts]

Im here now, gonna read everything.

[Slaol]

Superduck says i hadnt sais anything. There was nothing to go on really when i was on. Trying to deflect wnd discredit my claim on Morpzedd. I think this further supports their union.

[Keiichi]

Also it looks to me like fire culted somebody he thought would go under the radar day one (keiichi) and stepped in to steer town in a different direction after keiichi was pinged out.

somebody he thought would go under the radar day one

go under the radar
http://i.imgur.com/u1S5dx9.png

The question here is to OMGUS or not to OMGUS.
This pleb has been trying to direct attention towards this account, based on nothing but false claims.
"Under the radar" you say? Bitch, this is Sen + AIVION, we don't go under the radar, are the radar.

As much as this makes me want to gaorge your eyes out and cot your head off, this joker jumping and their opportunity vote cannot go unpunished.
Clarence
Got something to say, you clown?

[Slaol]

He also choosen to place Morpzedd in a bracket of seemingly less awful. He has a group of negative, neutral, and waiting. Morp ended up in the third, even though several people have seen enough to at least prod.

[Keiichi]

That should've read "we are the radar".

Whatever the case, I'd like everyone to see that vote on #61, moments after Supercuck did the whole "Keiichi is culted because reasons" thing.

[Fire Viking]

^Red Trainer Crumbs

Honestly....why do you guys think Red Trainer is going to crumb his role.....to anyone.
The only person who may want to crumb his role would be Charmander to Red, but even if they did we would be looking for it.

Stop being ridiculous.

-Fire

[Keiichi]

Honestly....why do you guys think Red Trainer is going to crumb his role.....to anyone.
The only person who may want to crumb his role would be Charmander to Red, but even if they did we would be looking for it.

Are you Charmander? This post triggered more alarms than it should.

[Fire Viking]

He also choosen to place Morpzedd in a bracket of seemingly less awful. He has a group of negative, neutral, and waiting. Morp ended up in the third, even though several people have seen enough to at least prod.

Yeah, I don't know. You can say waiting to see what to do with ally, whether to bus or not to bus. However I see it as those two players have almost done nothing but troll post so far in the game. So them saying "need time to read" reads as trying to sort players.

I personally see Keiichi as town already even through the posts given. Morp, not so much any alignment indication. Their responses to pressure have left much to be desired from.

-Fire

[Fire Viking]

Are you Charmander? This post triggered more alarms than it should.

No, but I was in the previous iteration of this game. I am thinking in the terms of what Charmander would want to do. That is primarily join the cult to give them a KPN and make them get closer to victory. I don't know why that post triggered you, it should be obvious scum aren't going to crumb unless they have motivation to do so.

-Fire

[Slaol]

Morp and Superduck are da scumz

We are looking for 1 more later, but id rather tag that sweet sweet pokemon trainer first so i want to recommend a vote between these two

[Keiichi]

I don't know why that post triggered you, it should be obvious scum aren't going to crumb unless they have motivation to do so.
While the original post by Supercuck was retarded as fuk, there was really no need to address it just to point out how the Trainer wouldn't crumb. Furthermore, it's a common tactic for different, possibly allied scum factions to communicate by discussing random scum strategy, like you did.

Remember your setup? Hell Frog said something along the lines of the neutral siding with the scum, when they were neutrals and trying to signal the Mafia. I read your post along the same lines, you being Charmander and announcing it to the Trainer.

[Keiichi]

Morp and Superduck are da scumz
Why Morp, tho? I don't think they've done anything besides posting a bit during the shitposting stage.

[SparkNuts]

I'm also curious why so many think its morp. What did he do?

[SparkNuts]

Its been mostly trolling but at this point i'm leaning towards superduck and clarence as scum.

[Fire Viking]

Its been mostly trolling but at this point i'm leaning towards superduck and clarence as scum.

Clarence is a good vote too, they put their vote on a person being strong townie (even during the shitposting stage)

[Fire Viking]

While the original post by Supercuck was retarded as fuk, there was really no need to address it just to point out how the Trainer wouldn't crumb. Furthermore, it's a common tactic for different, possibly allied scum factions to communicate by discussing random scum strategy, like you did.

Remember your setup? Hell Frog said something along the lines of the neutral siding with the scum, when they were neutrals and trying to signal the Mafia. I read your post along the same lines, you being Charmander and announcing it to the Trainer.

Don't know what to tell you, I don't play like Helz or Frog. It might be good idea to be subtle hinting at your neutral status to the cult, but I am not being neutral at all. I am leading the town today.

-Fire

[Keiichi]

Its been mostly trolling but at this point i'm leaning towards superduck and clarence as scum.
Mind voting Clarence to give him some motivation?
Fire Viking: That's something you've brought up a couple of times now. Why do you want to assume a position of Town leader during this game? It's not something either of you tend to do when playing solo.

[Keiichi]

Ugh, sorry about that @ quote. I forgot the new system spams you notifications now. I'll start using a different symbol.

[Slaol]

Why Morp, tho? I don't think they've done anything besides posting a bit during the shitposting stage.

First post is a scum tell on Orpz, who posted it

[SparkNuts]

Mind voting Clarence to give him some motivation?

sure.

Clarence

[Keiichi]

First post is a scum tell on Orpz, who posted it
Fair enough. I think my only experience with Orpz as scum is from one time I was Mafia along with him, so I don't know his meta. Actually, I ignore the meta of over half the players here, for that matter. This is going to be fun.

What do you make of Clarence? Seeing how he took advantage of the weak-as-fuk argument by Superduck, who you say is scum as well.

[Slaol]

Fair enough. I think my only experience with Orpz as scum is from one time I was Mafia along with him, so I don't know his meta. Actually, I ignore the meta of over half the players here, for that matter. This is going to be fun.

What do you make of Clarence? Seeing how he took advantage of the weak-as-fuk argument by Superduck, who you say is scum as well.

He would fall into Charmander atm. Also he has like 2 posts. A hello and a vote on you before Supderducks big post. Idk, I can't get much out of it right now. Btw, my vote can be considered on Superduck as well. If we go his lynch way I will move onto him. So he is effectively L-3

[Slaol]

I don't know Clarence well enough, but perhaps he is a Charmander taking a quiet role. Can't tell right now and I'd still rather put effort into the cult.

[Keiichi]

I'm unsure about Supercuck. After reading his posts, I think they wouldn't be a bad vote, but my gut says otherway.
The day's still young, and I still need to gossip about you with AIVION, so we'll get into that in a few hours.

Also, Gyrlander was here some minutes ago, and left without posting. Make of that what you will.

[Slaol]

I'm unsure about Supercuck. After reading his posts, I think they wouldn't be a bad vote, but my gut says otherway.
The day's still young, and I still need to gossip about you with AIVION, so we'll get into that in a few hours.

Also, Gyrlander was here some minutes ago, and left without posting. Make of that what you will.

Gossip about me?

[Keiichi]

Gossip about me?
About all of you. d: As in, discuss the game with each other.
Our schedules haven't coincided so far since the game started.

[SUPERDUCK]

Superduck says i hadnt sais anything. There was nothing to go on really when i was on. Trying to deflect wnd discredit my claim on Morpzedd. I think this further supports their union.

It was an obvious observation. No way at all trying to hint you are scum.
Yet you feel the need to defend yourself when there was no attack on you


He also choosen to place Morpzedd in a bracket of seemingly less awful. He has a group of negative, neutral, and waiting. Morp ended up in the third, even though several people have seen enough to at least prod.

Because Morp has been involved more, it would take time and more careful reading before I was to make any comment on him.


Honestly....why do you guys think Red Trainer is going to crumb his role.....to anyone.
The only person who may want to crumb his role would be Charmander to Red, but even if they did we would be looking for it.

Stop being ridiculous.

-Fire

For the reasons:
-Hey Charmander, I'm Red Ranger! Hint at me who you are so you can join me
-Hey Charmander! Don't ash me, go for a townie instead.

Honestly, saying it's a ridiculous thing to say, after the last game claiming tpr as scum makes no sense.


First post is a scum tell on Orpz, who posted it
Hi. I'm just using Meta. So you all have to trust me in how well I know this person!


He would fall into Charmander atm. Also he has like 2 posts. A hello and a vote on you before Supderducks big post. Idk, I can't get much out of it right now. Btw, my vote can be considered on Superduck as well. If we go his lynch way I will move onto him. So he is effectively L-3

I don't know Clarence well enough, but perhaps he is a Charmander taking a quiet role. Can't tell right now and I'd still rather put effort into the cult.
Hi. I'm just using Meta. So you all have to trust me in how well I don't know this person, so when my pal flips scum I have a good reason to explain why. But I see it more as "This person has not participated yet to make any read possible on him other than low activity=scum




I'm unsure about Supercuck. After reading his posts, I think they wouldn't be a bad vote, but my gut says otherway.
The day's still young, and I still need to gossip about you with AIVION, so we'll get into that in a few hours.

Also, Gyrlander was here some minutes ago, and left without posting. Make of that what you will.
Claiming that he reads us as scum. Yet places his future defence "but my gut says otherwise" for when we flip town.
What I'm saying is this player can be scum, that knows we are very likely / 100% a town player

[SUPERDUCK]

~SJ~

[Keiichi]

Claiming that he reads us as scum. Yet places his future defence "but my gut says otherwise" for when we flip town.
What I'm saying is this player can be scum, that knows we are very likely / 100% a town player
Point out where I claimed to read you as scum -or to read anyone as anything, for that matter-.

[Keiichi]

Let's just point out -yet again- the Clarence - Supercuck connection:

- First Supercuck makes up the weakest "case" on us. Clarence proceedes to sheep that though and votes us without further comment.

- Now that the vote is there, Supercuck makes up a reason to keep trying to deflect the attention unto us.

Also worth mentioning the lack of votes on their part. It's not uncommon for the scum to "forget" to vote during the early part of the day, having no incentive to scumhunt and being fine with jumping on any mislynch later during the day.

[SUPERDUCK]

Point out where I claimed to read you as scum -or to read anyone as anything, for that matter-.

Why else would you vote someone unless you think they are scum?

[Keiichi]

Why else would you vote someone unless you think they are scum?
Seriously?
Policy, lynchbait, VCA, WIFOM, the Gods demanded it...

You are acting scummy as fuck, that's not up for discussion. Whether you are actually scum or not is where my brain and gut can't reach a consensus on.

[SUPERDUCK]

Claiming town or charmander. Ash abandonded his pidgetto in season 1 and never came back, and the rng god's would never make me become what I hate.

-vote fire


Let's just point out -yet again- the Clarence - Supercuck connection:

- First Supercuck makes up the weakest "case" on us. Clarence proceedes to sheep that though and votes us without further comment.
My partner saw Fire making his reads fly everywhere, and after he addressed you and prodded you, you ran away saying "I was tolling lol lol lol lol"
I respect my partners reasoning to viewing you as scum

- Now that the vote is there, Supercuck makes up a reason to keep trying to deflect the attention unto us.
SuperDuck decided to post next time he showed up. Which contains content, has noting yo do with "now the vote is there"

Also worth mentioning the lack of votes on their part. It's not uncommon for the scum to "forget" to vote during the early part of the day, having no incentive to scumhunt and being fine with jumping on any mislynch later during the day.

My partner tried to vote. I don't think they know how to yet. For something trying to explain why we are scum you are paying very little attention to what we have posted.

[SUPERDUCK]

Seriously?
Policy, lynchbait, VCA, WIFOM, the Gods demanded it...

You are acting scummy as fuck, that's not up for discussion. Whether you are actually scum or not is where my brain and gut can't reach a consensus on.

Again. You are saying "All their posts point to them being scum" but then you quickly say "But for some reason they might be town"
which I have said translates to "I know they are town, which is why I'm not voting them. but I will agree with other people calling them scum and say that they are acting exactly like scum and show no reason in their posts to why they are town."

Keiichi

[Keiichi]

This site doesn't allow nested quotes, so I cannot quote you.

Whatever the case, noone prodded me; I clearly stated I would participate today once I got some free time, and that's what I've been doing.

I find it funny that you keep trying to make bullshit such as "flying undfer the radar" and "prodded you" to one of the most active players on the site.

[Keiichi]

Mhm. And I won't change what I said just because you try to make it look like scummy.

That's... what? Like the third meaningless "case" you try to make on us? Pff.

[SUPERDUCK]

Do you have any thoughts on the early interaction with me pressuring fire/deflecting off morp and then distancing from morp after being called out?

Also only a trainer would have a pidgeot already. Did he leave you because he does not respect who you culted?


Not really. I'm kind of tired / inebriated right now and only came to join the shitposting. I'll post some actual content once I get some free time tomorrow.

The quoted posts show how you just where asked to contribute but you where "kind of" unable to participate. Other than to put good effort into not participating.

I've already mentioned to my partner that I had previous been unable to read Sen, as he was able to fly into the null read zone for me so that I spent an investigation onto him.

And all he saw that game up to that point, was you just trolling and then dissapearing before the spotlight was shown. Can you really say that is not a good reason for him to pressure him.

And now you are going :

"I find it funny that you keep trying to make bullshit such as "flying undfer the radar" and "prodded you" to one of the most active players on the site."

HOW DARE I SAY THIS. WHEN THE POSTS IN THIS GAME AT-THAT-POINT SHOWED THIS.
Kk, should we medal you wiz "most actiz playaaa" Because, unless you want people to subtly think "OMG yeh active=scum" then there is no reason to show this off.

[Keiichi]

The quoted posts show how you just where asked to contribute but you where "kind of" unable to participate. Other than to put good effort into not participating.
Which is true; I (Sen) posted only twice last night. I was inebriated, and like you can see in the Mafia Parking forum, I spent the night making a tool for the site. I said I didn't feel like commenting then, that I would do it today, and that's exactly what I have done.


I've already mentioned to my partner that I had previous been unable to read Sen, as he was able to fly into the null read zone for me so that I spent an investigation onto him.

And all he saw that game up to that point, was you just trolling and then dissapearing before the spotlight was shown. Can you really say that is not a good reason for him to pressure him.
Again, that was AIVION, so at least get your excuses right.


And now you are going :

"I find it funny that you keep trying to make bullshit such as "flying undfer the radar" and "prodded you" to one of the most active players on the site."

HOW DARE I SAY THIS. WHEN THE POSTS IN THIS GAME AT-THAT-POINT SHOWED THIS.

OMG, Sen only posted twice at 3 am during the first hour of the day! Fucking lynch him!


Stop wasting my time.

[SUPERDUCK]

Morning everyone,

About to go to the gym, but I will put where I am at for today in my reads since there is a lot of duckhate. I stayed up late last night hoping to start active and give people a chance to learn my playstyle since none of you have played with me outside of sc2 mafia. I was expecting the first vote to be cast on me, and when it was not I set a trap to breadcrumb charmander ( I specfically said I was looking for a reason of being pressured.) Fire's partner was the ONLY person to look into my alignment which is odd because nobody knows what my mafia or town range is and I SHOULD BE THE FIRST PERSON pressured.

Updated reads:
Fire-only person looking into my alignment. Not sure at the moment if he is just wrong or evil and looking for low hanging fruit.
keiichi- top scum read
Clarence- needs to be pressured or contribute soon, probably my second top scum
morp-had him as charmander, may have to reevaluate later today

only town read is on slaol and it is very loose.


-Duck

[Keiichi]

Morning everyone,

About to go to the gym, but I will put where I am at for today in my reads since there is a lot of duckhate. I stayed up late last night hoping to start active and give people a chance to learn my playstyle since none of you have played with me outside of sc2 mafia. I was expecting the first vote to be cast on me, and when it was not I set a trap to breadcrumb charmander ( I specfically said I was looking for a reason of being pressured.) Fire's partner was the ONLY person to look into my alignment which is odd because nobody knows what my mafia or town range is and I SHOULD BE THE FIRST PERSON pressured.

Updated reads:
Fire-only person looking into my alignment. Not sure at the moment if he is just wrong or evil and looking for low hanging fruit.
keiichi- top scum read
Clarence- needs to be pressured or contribute soon, probably my second top scum
morp-had him as charmander, may have to reevaluate later today

only town read is on slaol and it is very loose.


-Duck

So... Would you like to clarify on us being the top scum read...?

And why Slaol would be your only town read...?

Your reads don't exactly make sense...

[Keiichi]

AIVION is here now, so he can take care of this while I do some stuff.

Fire Viking, I left a question for you back there.

Morp was reading the thread a while ago. I thought they were reading and writing replies, but they simply disappeared.

I'd still like everyone to give their opinions on Clarence. Even if he has only 2 posts, I think that vote reeks of :muk: when the context is considered.

[Fire Viking]

Game isn't that active, haven't read last two pages really.
Ill get to your question.

-Fire

[Fire Viking]

Mind voting Clarence to give him some motivation?
Fire Viking: That's something you've brought up a couple of times now. Why do you want to assume a position of Town leader during this game? It's not something either of you tend to do when playing solo.

Look at last game. When I didn't shotgun leader position and just discussed my reads openly instead of actively pushed a player. I got massively discredited and town lost. I am not letting that shit happen again. Why wouldn't I want to lead?

-Fire

[Fire Viking]

Morning everyone,

About to go to the gym, but I will put where I am at for today in my reads since there is a lot of duckhate. I stayed up late last night hoping to start active and give people a chance to learn my playstyle since none of you have played with me outside of sc2 mafia. I was expecting the first vote to be cast on me, and when it was not I set a trap to breadcrumb charmander ( I specfically said I was looking for a reason of being pressured.) Fire's partner was the ONLY person to look into my alignment which is odd because nobody knows what my mafia or town range is and I SHOULD BE THE FIRST PERSON pressured.

Updated reads:
Fire-only person looking into my alignment. Not sure at the moment if he is just wrong or evil and looking for low hanging fruit.
keiichi- top scum read
Clarence- needs to be pressured or contribute soon, probably my second top scum
morp-had him as charmander, may have to reevaluate later today

only town read is on slaol and it is very loose.


-Duck

This isn't well developed, and you should be developing your reads. The fact you think of yourself as a "Low hanging fruit" either means you know your play is poor (that means you know you are doing bad) or (you are just enabling that line of thought so we ignore your slot).

Its scummy. You don't call yourself low hanging fruit as a town.
You can say "I seem like an easy mislynch target", but low hanging fruit also implies you are also bad town.


-Fire

[Fire Viking]

It was an obvious observation. No way at all trying to hint you are scum.
Yet you feel the need to defend yourself when there was no attack on you



Because Morp has been involved more, it would take time and more careful reading before I was to make any comment on him.



For the reasons:
-Hey Charmander, I'm Red Ranger! Hint at me who you are so you can join me
-Hey Charmander! Don't ash me, go for a townie instead.

Honestly, saying it's a ridiculous thing to say, after the last game claiming tpr as scum makes no sense.


Hi. I'm just using Meta. So you all have to trust me in how well I know this person!



Hi. I'm just using Meta. So you all have to trust me in how well I don't know this person, so when my pal flips scum I have a good reason to explain why. But I see it more as "This person has not participated yet to make any read possible on him other than low activity=scum




Claiming that he reads us as scum. Yet places his future defence "but my gut says otherwise" for when we flip town.
What I'm saying is this player can be scum, that knows we are very likely / 100% a town player

Ill address the stuff just on me for now. But a lot of this is meh to me. Like Slaol is using meta, but you can use meta for baseline reads. Then go from there, meta in itself isn't terrible (though I am trying to deviate from that)

Now on to me you are pointing out a game where Charmander and Pokemon trainer found each other N0 to prove your point? Did you read before you posted this comment?

[Fire Viking]

Town:
Keiichi
Slaol
Grylander

Null:
Morp
Everyone not included.

Scum:
Clarence
SuperDuck

[Fire Viking]

^ Firebringer posts.

[Keiichi]

Look at last game. When I didn't shotgun leader position and just discussed my reads openly instead of actively pushed a player. I got massively discredited and town lost. I am not letting that shit happen again. Why wouldn't I want to lead?

-Fire

I asked because I've seen you play the "I'm Town Leader" card in one or two instances before: Koopolitics and (I'm not 100% sure about this one, but I think you brought it up at some point). You were scum in both cases.



Koopolitics and Cold/Colder War.
Fixed.

[Keiichi]

OMG, I'm stupid. I edited the post instead of quoting it.

[Keiichi]

The original post said something along these lines:


Look at last game. When I didn't shotgun leader position and just discussed my reads openly instead of actively pushed a player. I got massively discredited and town lost. I am not letting that shit happen again. Why wouldn't I want to lead?

-Fire

I asked because I remember you playing the "I'm Town Leader" card in at last one instance before: Koopolitics and The Cold/Colder War (I'm not entirelly sure about the last one). You were scum in both cases.


Again, sorry for the edit. Was a mistake.

[Keiichi]

Thank you, Cryptonic. And thanks to whoever made our account an archon.

Also, I see you Orpz and Clarence lurking. Wanna say something?
We've got a little over a day left, and half of the players haven't posted any relevant content.

[Clarence]

I'd rather reserve my judgement for now, make of my posts as you will. My only comment is that for active players (that have generally leaned town), what is your plan to avoid the cult?

[Keiichi]

I'd rather reserve my judgement for now, make of my posts as you will. My only comment is that for active players (that have generally leaned town), what is your plan to avoid the cult?

Sorry, but that's not gonna fly.

You need to start listing some reads, or get lynched. You're already pegged as a top scum by almost everyone... you have no room to open discussion, especially weak discussion like that.

[Keiichi]

I'd rather reserve my judgement for now, make of my posts as you will.
Gonna second my partner here. Piss off.
You explain that conveniently timed vote right now, and your reasons for it right now, else you are getting the rope.

[Keiichi]

My only comment is that for active players (that have generally leaned town), what is your plan to avoid the cult?
Can we lynch this? Yeah? Ok, let's lynch this.

[Clarence]

Can we lynch this? Yeah? Ok, let's lynch this.

Feel free to do so, you are seeing links where there aren't any.

[Keiichi]

Feel free to do so, you are seeing links where there aren't any.

And you're avoiding our earlier question.

getting scummier by the minute man.

[Keiichi]

Feel free to do so, you are seeing links where there aren't any.
Ok, let's play. Let's say you and Superduck aren't connected. Even then, all of this remains true:
- You voted us without offering any reasons for doing so, even when asked for them.

- You never pushed us, which means your vote is one of convenience, and not the result of scumhunting (since if the latter was the case, you would've tried to get others to understand what you think you are seeing).

- A day into the game and your only "contribution" is to ask for strategy that only benefits the scum.

So yeah, we can remove Superduck from the equation and all points remain valid.

[Clarence]

And you're avoiding our earlier question.

getting scummier by the minute man.

Seemed to have missed it, mind repeating?

[Clarence]

Ok, let's play. Let's say you and Superduck aren't connected. Even then, all of this remains true:
- You voted us without offering any reasons for doing so, even when asked for them.

- You never pushed us, which means your vote is one of convenience, and not the result of scumhunting (since if the latter was the case, you would've tried to get others to understand what you think you are seeing).

- A day into the game and your only "contribution" is to ask for strategy that only benefits the scum.

So yeah, we can remove Superduck from the equation and all points remain valid.

There are definitrly reasons that you can predict if you aren't so caught up with your tunnel vision.

[Keiichi]

There are definitrly reasons that you can predict if you aren't so caught up with your tunnel vision.
This is a game of discussion and analysis, and you don't get to play such shitty excuses to get a free pass.

You are active lurking and being generally useless when it comes to finding the scum. I'm not going to give you a get out of jail card just because you think you are the lord of WIFOM.

[Keiichi]

There are definitrly reasons that you can predict if you aren't so caught up with your tunnel vision.

Seconding my partner here... The way you've gone about this game so far has been at the POV Of a lurking scum too afraid to speak his mind.

The last time I saw someone say "I'm reserving Judgement." They were scum trying to hold back because they didn't want to reveal their teammate.

Makes me think you're Trainer Red even harder now.

[Clarence]

Seconding my partner here... The way you've gone about this game so far has been at the POV Of a lurking scum too afraid to speak his mind.

The last time I saw someone say "I'm reserving Judgement." They were scum trying to hold back because they didn't want to reveal their teammate.

Makes me think you're Trainer Red even harder now.
If you are so confident, then go ahead and convince the rest.

[Keiichi]

If you are so confident, then go ahead and convince the rest.

Actually it's you who needs to convince us... Since you are at the top of a couple people's scumlists.

We're waiting for your contribution to the game... Instead of your piss poor excuses.

[Keiichi]

I know his kind; bad play, useless lurkeres, can't get out of the shithole by themselves, stall the whole day, and then at the end try to save themselves from getting lynched by throwing some random claim.

Ideally, we would be voting someone else by now, but this plebeian responses do nothing but solidify the vote.

I'm going to take a break, since discussing with this one is a pointless, one-sided exercise, and everyone else seems to be away. Whatever the case, this one needs to hang today.
Magikarps of the world, unite!

[Slaol]

Feel free to do so, you are seeing links where there aren't any.

This...


I'd rather reserve my judgement for now, make of my posts as you will. My only comment is that for active players (that have generally leaned town), what is your plan to avoid the cult?

Is not a link. It's entire gift wrapped experience.

Connecting you to Superduck earlier might have been a stretch but this post screams scum trying to explain his inactivity and recommend a lurkfest. This is embarrassing.

[vote]Clarence/[vote]

I'll take one Charmander please, rare.

[Slaol]

Clarance

fuck me, and fuck you

[SparkNuts]

I dont see any connection between Superduck or Clarence but Clarence definitely looks like scum. Im thinking he is charmander, we should lynch him today.
Town:
Keiichi
Slaol
Grylander

Null:
Morp
Everyone not included.

Scum:
Clarence
SuperDuck

I pretty much agree with this except for Grylander. He hasnt said enough for me to have an opinion either way. Right now Im thinking Fire is town.

[SparkNuts]

Clarance

fuck me, and fuck you

fake vote? its not in the vote count

[SUPERDUCK]

This isn't well developed, and you should be developing your reads. The fact you think of yourself as a "Low hanging fruit" either means you know your play is poor (that means you know you are doing bad) or (you are just enabling that line of thought so we ignore your slot).

Its scummy. You don't call yourself low hanging fruit as a town.
You can say "I seem like an easy mislynch target", but low hanging fruit also implies you are also bad town.


-Fire

Where did I say I think I am low hanging fruit? I believe someone (may have been SJ) pointed out that you were tunneling on low hanging fruit, and if you think a new player is not considered low hanging fruit then you are just flat out lying.

Explain how my play has been "poor". I have been active, asking people for their reads(which their response is "LOL IM DRUNK I DONT KNOW"), and pressuring people. You do not have to agree with my reads and think they are terrible, but the fact is its day 1 and most people have been MIA, lurking, or shitposting.

I have reevaluated on you FIVE times on day1, and have only hard defended morp. You started not pressuring me(the new guy) which put you instantly as scum for me. Then I flipped on you when you made a good connection with me and morp. You then start making a role list that basically outs who you think TPR's are, which can only benefit the scum. Just say they are town not VT and leave 2/4 for PR's... I read you as scum at this point. Then your partner acknowledged my breadcrumb on charmander and I switched to a town read on you. Finally I begin pressuring keiichi who breadcrumbs trainer red WHICH YOU ALSO IGNORE COMPLETELY. I must be charmander for breadcrumbing, but keiichi would never breadcrumb trainer red? This is why I still want to lynch you, but you are active and I hate lurkers so I am willing to pressure clarence, and would hammer keiichi in a heartbeat.

The linking between me and clarence is comical, I wanted to lynch him. (Omg distancing) What scum comes out with no town reads? If I was evil I would at least attempt to pocket some 1 or spew somebody as town.

My town list remains -slaol

also based on sparknuts first few posts he is fence scum for me.

[Slaol]

fake vote? its not in the vote count

Fuck me again

Clarence

[SparkNuts]

Someone really wants to get fucked.

[Slaol]

Someone really wants to get fucked.

The girlfriend is allergic to Caffeine. It's been rough.

[Richard Dawkins]

The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry.
Sincerely,
Dawkins

[Slaol]

The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry.
Sincerely,
Dawkins

scum

[Slaol]

Just kidding. I think we have all 3 already. But like, fuck you Dawkins.

[SUPERDUCK]

The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the simple unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry.
Sincerely,
Dawkins

That is great and all, but do you have any thoughts on the game.... zzzzzzzz

[Fire Viking]

I could go for a Clarence lynch right now, however since I am leading the town we are pushing SuperDuck.

-Fire

[Slaol]

I could go for a Clarence lynch right now, however since I am leading the town we are pushing SuperDuck.

-Fire

That isn't how leading works

[Morp]

Just got home. All day at school, how fun.

Showering now

t. Orpz

[Morp]

I don't have any strong scumreads actually.

t. Orpz

[SUPERDUCK]

I don't have any strong scumreads actually.

t. Orpz

Fire and I have been pushing each other and you have no scum reads. Does this mean you think we could be two towns fighting?

Do you think the evils are lurking or trying to lead town?

-Duck

[Richard Dawkins]

That is great and all, but do you have any thoughts on the game.... zzzzzzzz

By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out.
Thanks,
Dawkins

[Gyrlander]

Richard Dawkins

[Richard Dawkins]

Richard Dawkins

Yet scientists are required to back up their claims not with private feelings but with publicly checkable evidence. Their experiments must have rigorous controls to eliminate spurious effects. And statistical analysis eliminates the suspicion (or at least measures the likelihood) that the apparent effect might have happened by chance alone.

Hope you are doing well,
Clinton Richard Dawkins

[Empathy17]

Yet scientists are required to back up their claims not with private feelings but with publicly checkable evidence. Their experiments must have rigorous controls to eliminate spurious effects. And statistical analysis eliminates the suspicion (or at least measures the likelihood) that the apparent effect might have happened by chance alone.

Hope you are doing well,
Clinton Richard Dawkins

Is this gonna be your act all game?

~SW

[SUPERDUCK]

Is this gonna be your act all game?

~SW

While his play has been egregious, it is ironic for you to ask that when you have contributed nothing as well.

You mentioned not liking fire's and I interaction, what about it specifically did you not like? Do you have any other reads, and since you voted me, has your read on me changed or do you think i am evil.

-Duck

[Empathy17]

While his play has been egregious, it is ironic for you to ask that when you have contributed nothing as well.

You mentioned not liking fire's and I interaction, what about it specifically did you not like? Do you have any other reads, and since you voted me, has your read on me changed or do you think i am evil.

-Duck

I don't vote people unless I think they are evil or there is a good chance of it. I didn't say he has contributed nothing. His last post made sense. I just find his posts hard to decipher. Yeah, I know we haven't done jack shit. I've been busy. I'll give reads later today most likely.

~SW

[Gyrlander]

Yet scientists are required to back up their claims not with private feelings but with publicly checkable evidence. Their experiments must have rigorous controls to eliminate spurious effects. And statistical analysis eliminates the suspicion (or at least measures the likelihood) that the apparent effect might have happened by chance alone.

Hope you are doing well,
Clinton Richard Dawkins

As long as you talk like that my vote will remain where it is. I HATE PEOPLE LIKE YOU

[SUPERDUCK]

As long as you talk like that my vote will remain where it is. I HATE PEOPLE LIKE YOU

Gyrlander is now my #1 town, with slaol still a loose town.

Fire says he wants to lead town, yet I do not see him frustrated with the lurkers/trying to find our their alignment.

dawkins, empathy, sparknuts should be looked at for potential lynches if they do not add something more today.

Clarence is removed from this list because I feel that lurkers, and both sides of the active towns have been pushing a lynch on him today, and worst case hopefully is that he is charmander.


-DucK

[SUPERDUCK]

I don't vote people unless I think they are evil or there is a good chance of it. I didn't say he has contributed nothing. His last post made sense. I just find his posts hard to decipher. Yeah, I know we haven't done jack shit. I've been busy. I'll give reads later today most likely.

~SW

So why am I evil?

[Gyrlander]

Gyrlander is now my #1 town, with slaol still a loose town.

Fire says he wants to lead town, yet I do not see him frustrated with the lurkers/trying to find our their alignment.

dawkins, empathy, sparknuts should be looked at for potential lynches if they do not add something more today.

Clarence is removed from this list because I feel that lurkers, and both sides of the active towns have been pushing a lynch on him today, and worst case hopefully is that he is charmander.


-DucK

How did that shitty post make me your #1 Town read?

[SUPERDUCK]

How did that shitty post make me your #1 Town read?

Even now you decide to question why I call you town for a seemingly bad reason. You have not been as active, but instead of jumping on one of the three vote trains you come out of nowhere and vote somebody who has been useless and ignores giving their reads when pinged out. If you were evil you would probably be like sparknuts and jump on the clarence lynch train.

-DucK

[Gyrlander]

Even now you decide to question why I call you town for a seemingly bad reason. You have not been as active, but instead of jumping on one of the three vote trains you come out of nowhere and vote somebody who has been useless and ignores giving their reads when pinged out. If you were evil you would probably be like sparknuts and jump on the clarence lynch train.

-DucK

Good point.

[Morp]

Fire and I have been pushing each other and you have no scum reads. Does this mean you think we could be two towns fighting?

Do you think the evils are lurking or trying to lead town?

-Duck

The evils are 100% lurking. The scums in this game are an Arsonist and a Cult. Both of which are some of the most time-dependent roles, and thus benefit more from staying alive as long as possible than from leading the Town. That's why I have Fire as a strong Town read.

If I had to say one of you guys were scum, I'd choose you but I'm really vibing that either.

t. Orpz

[Morp]

The evils are 100% lurking. The scums in this game are an Arsonist and a Cult. Both of which are some of the most time-dependent roles, and thus benefit more from staying alive as long as possible than from leading the Town. That's why I have Fire as a strong Town read.

If I had to say one of you guys were scum, I'd choose you but I'm really vibing that either.

t. Orpz

not really vibing*

[Keiichi]

Gyrlander is now my #1 town, with slaol still a loose town.

Fire says he wants to lead town, yet I do not see him frustrated with the lurkers/trying to find our their alignment.

dawkins, empathy, sparknuts should be looked at for potential lynches if they do not add something more today.

Clarence is removed from this list because I feel that lurkers, and both sides of the active towns have been pushing a lynch on him today, and worst case hopefully is that he is charmander.


-DucK

There's really a difference between Lurker's and scum trying to pretend they're lurking... If you noticed Clarence tried to make a incredibly Scummy discussion yesterday right after they voted us. And when asked for his reasoning, all he said was "I am reserving my Judgement." (I specified the last time I saw this shitty excuse, they were scum. I'm not taking chances.)

I dunno what your policy is on lurkers, but from what this post is telling me you're avoiding a lynch on Clarence for more than just this reason. And that makes our Hydra feel Even better with it.

[SparkNuts]

Gyrlander is now my #1 town, with slaol still a loose town.

Fire says he wants to lead town, yet I do not see him frustrated with the lurkers/trying to find our their alignment.

dawkins, empathy, sparknuts should be looked at for potential lynches if they do not add something more today.

Clarence is removed from this list because I feel that lurkers, and both sides of the active towns have been pushing a lynch on him today, and worst case hopefully is that he is charmander.


-DucK

Can you explain this a little more? What makes Gyrlander and his ~5 posts #1 town but empathy and I are potential lynches?


If you were evil you would probably be like sparknuts and jump on the clarence lynch train.
When did I do that?

[Empathy17]

hi there ika here

anyone need anything

[Keiichi]

hi there ika here

anyone need anything

I would love if you could help me by trying to understand Supercuck's Backwards logic:

Do you agree with him when he says that Clarence should be avoided because of his Lurking? (When he really wasn't lurking at all/made terrible votes with no backings?) Also, do you feel like this is suspicious that he refuses to acknowledge obvious scum as obvious?

[Empathy17]

I would love if you could help me by trying to understand Supercuck's Backwards logic:

Do you agree with him when he says that Clarence should be avoided because of his Lurking? (When he really wasn't lurking at all/made terrible votes with no backings?) Also, do you feel like this is suspicious that he refuses to acknowledge obvious scum as obvious?

i ignore whatever SJ/duck slot has been saying cus SJ has been known to be a lurker himself and duck is jsut a troll

[Empathy17]

usally whatever tehy thinki do the oppsotie for lols

[Richard Dawkins]

Anybody who has something sensible or worthwhile to say should be able to say it calmly and soberly, relying on the words themselves to convey his meaning, without resorting to yelling.
Yours truly,
Richard Dawkins

[Keiichi]

12~ hours to add 3 votes on Clarence.

[Empathy17]

I would love if you could help me by trying to understand Supercuck's Backwards logic:

Do you agree with him when he says that Clarence should be avoided because of his Lurking? (When he really wasn't lurking at all/made terrible votes with no backings?) Also, do you feel like this is suspicious that he refuses to acknowledge obvious scum as obvious?

It makes no sense to discuss avoiding a lurker while at the same time wanting so-called lurkers looked at for lynches. This lack of a transparent thought process makes me lean scum on Superduck. I also did not like his interaction with Fire Viking.

~SW

[Keiichi]

Fire Viking already said he's down for lynching Clarence.

@>Gyrlander: As much as I'd enjoy getting rid of this Dawkins specimen, let's be realistic here; he's not getting lynched today. Your vote would be of more use on Clarence.
Empathy: Can we leave Supercuck for tomorrow? We can roleblocking tonight, or whatever. Let's just make sure that today doesn't end in a no-lynch.

[Keiichi]

Anybody who has something sensible or worthwhile to say should be able to say it calmly and soberly, relying on the words themselves to convey his meaning, without resorting to yelling.
Yours truly,
Richard Dawkins

"Don't kid yourself that you're going to live again after you're dead; you're not. Make the most of the one life you've got. Live it to the full."

Yea, I can quote you too. Guess what? You're gonna die and you're gonna stay dead until you:

FUCKING.START.PLAYING!

[Fire Viking]

We really should be lynching SuperDuck.
Clarence is a day two lynch IMO.

Lets flip SuperDuck and go from there.

[Keiichi]

We really should be lynching SuperDuck.
Clarence is a day two lynch IMO.

Lets flip SuperDuck and go from there.

Clarence's got more votes, and they are likely the Trainer. SuperDuck is getting roleblocked tonight anyway.
Let's not risk a no-lynch.

[Fire Viking]

Clarence's got more votes, and they are likely the Trainer. SuperDuck is getting roleblocked tonight anyway.
Let's not risk a no-lynch.

If Clarence is the trainer, they can be roleblocked as well. How is either more likely trainer than the other? How do you differentiate that in Day 1?

-Fire

[Keiichi]

If Clarence is the trainer, they can be roleblocked as well. How is either more likely trainer than the other? How do you differentiate that in Day 1?

-Fire
Same way I've pegged the Arsonist while playing as a Jester. I'm a wizard.

As long as the Trainer is alive, the roleblocker is forced to target them every night. If the roleblocker dies or is already converted, the Trainer can get a recruit before getting lynched the day after.

There's literally no reason for thinking that anyone besides the Trainer is our top priority.

[Fire Viking]

I don't have high hopes for this, but he is a scum read. Just not my top scumread
Clarence

Silver/Ika You should join on, so we don't no lynch.

-Fire

[SUPERDUCK]

There's really a difference between Lurker's and scum trying to pretend they're lurking... If you noticed Clarence tried to make a incredibly Scummy discussion yesterday right after they voted us. And when asked for his reasoning, all he said was "I am reserving my Judgement." (I specified the last time I saw this shitty excuse, they were scum. I'm not taking chances.)

I dunno what your policy is on lurkers, but from what this post is telling me you're avoiding a lynch on Clarence for more than just this reason. And that makes our Hydra feel Even better with it.

I realize this, I said I do not want to lynch clarence because I do not think he is the trainer. The Fire+keiichi side has voted him, I have wanted to lynch him, and some of the lurkers have wanted to lynch him. Where are his partners? me, ROFL?

[Keiichi]

I realize this, I said I do not want to lynch clarence because I do not think he is the trainer. The Fire+keiichi side has voted him, I have wanted to lynch him, and some of the lurkers have wanted to lynch him. Where are his partners? me, ROFL?

Then prove it by voting him.

Actions speak louder than words.

[SUPERDUCK]

i ignore whatever SJ/duck slot has been saying cus SJ has been known to be a lurker himself and duck is jsut a troll

LOL you actually have me so tilted. If you believe this post you are beyond a waste of time to play with. IGNORE WHAT THEY SAY. This is the most anti town thing I have ever seen on day1. Superjack has not lurked this game so that is invalid, and if you think im a troll well you suck at the game.

To the other dumb half of empathy it makes perfect sense. Every person pushing one of the lurkers while ignoring the others, is that not strange? I realize he has had shitty interactions, I would lynch him by his posts alone, but if he turns out to be cult with someone like dawkins then its this retarded towns fault for allowing players to actually troll.

[SUPERDUCK]

Then prove it by voting him.

Actions speak louder than words.

No I refuse to vote clarence, I WOULD RATHER GET LYNCHED TODAY THEN to lynch clarenece. The fact you think there is ANY chance of me getting roleblocked tonight shows you have not been following this game correctly whatsoever.

Please I implore you lynch me instead, so I do not have to deal with this train of donkeys on a day2 mislynch.

[Keiichi]

No I refuse to vote clarence, I WOULD RATHER GET LYNCHED TODAY THEN to lynch clarenece. The fact you think there is ANY chance of me getting roleblocked tonight shows you have not been following this game correctly whatsoever.

Please I implore you lynch me instead, so I do not have to deal with this train of donkeys on a day2 mislynch.

We're going to be roleblocking you tonight.

Either way, it looks like your cult is about to end. Poor you.

[SUPERDUCK]

I don't understand your list. Your list clearly hints you think I am a PR (you list every role but for bulba squirtle and magikarp, and if you believe I am magikarp then you choose to openly out as PR). Neither play makes sense unless you are trying to hint to a cult teammate places to pressure for a mislynch.

Your list is scummy to me, why do you have reads on everyone, even if they are loose/random. I like the morp read a lot, but am also curious how your list ignored anyone being a new cult. You pinged me and morp out as cult, what made your read on this change? Do you still read me as cult?

Maybe I am looking too much into early game loose reads...

I guess I did not soft claim hard enough throughout the fucking day.

Hardclaiming TPR, fuck all of you idiots for tunneling on stupid fucking reads and connections that do not fucking exist.

Lets lynch clarence, I will join the cult, and then we can run over you bag of misfits.

-Duck

[Keiichi]

Funny, seeing how SuperJack's new strategy is to avoid softclaiming TPR D1 to avoid getting nightkilled. Now you claim being a TPR, risking death and conversion, just to try and avoid getting roleblocked.

Not to mention that saying you will join the cult is gamethrowing, so unless you are part of the cult, you should get modkilled. Thanks for making it even easier.

[SUPERDUCK]

Funny, seeing how SuperJack's new strategy is to avoid softclaiming TPR D1 to avoid getting nightkilled. Now you claim being a TPR, risking death and conversion, just to try and avoid getting roleblocked.

Not to mention that saying you will join the cult is gamethrowing, so unless you are part of the cult, you should get modkilled. Thanks for making it even easier.

It's a good thing I am not superjack. COUNTERCLAIM ME I WILL TAKE A 1 FOR 1 TRADE ANY FUCKING DAY.

How is wanting to join the cult gamethrowing. i AM THE ONLY PERSON DOING ANYTHING. I can't tell if this game is one big punishment from sc2 mafia games and everyone is fucking trolling or if everyone is this fucking bad at the game.

If I am cult it is always with clarence and we made ourselves pretty fucking obvious dont you think? If you think the game is this black and white you are fucking delusional. I already know who the other TPR is, SO PLEASE LIKE I SAID COUNTER CLAIM ME so I can fucking end you.

-Duck

[Keiichi]

How is wanting to join the cult gamethrowing.
Because that's against your win condition if you are Town?

All the caps in the world won't make your statements any less idiotic.
Whatever the case, unless you have some actual game-related content to discuss, I'm done here with you.

[SUPERDUCK]

Because that's against your win condition if you are Town?

All the caps in the world won't make your statements any less idiotic.
Whatever the case, unless you have some actual game-related content to discuss, I'm done here with you.

The cult have a free win, who wouldn't want to be culted in a game where probable towns tunnel on a PR, and the lurkers do not get punished.

I have been trying to discuss game related content for the past 48 hours, you are just saying random bullshit. Once clarence has a fifth vote, and gets hammered you will see how fucked town is. I pray to god hes charmander because I do not see him as ever being cult with anyone but me or a lurker.

What do you want to discuss, how you suck at the game?

On a less personal note, have you mentioned the other players at all this game? Where are your reads at outside of fire, myself, and clarence

-Duck

[Keiichi]

The cult have a free win, who wouldn't want to be culted in a game where probable towns tunnel on a PR, and the lurkers do not get punished.

I have been trying to discuss game related content for the past 48 hours, you are just saying random bullshit. Once clarence has a fifth vote, and gets hammered you will see how fucked town is. I pray to god hes charmander because I do not see him as ever being cult with anyone but me or a lurker.

What do you want to discuss, how you suck at the game?

On a less personal note, have you mentioned the other players at all this game? Where are your reads at outside of fire, myself, and clarence

-Duck
This isn't the fucking SC2 mod. I don't vomit reads for the sake of it.

Whatever the case, this is blatant gamethrowing. If you don't get modkilled by the time the night starts, it's fair to assume that you are confirmed scum.

[SUPERDUCK]

This isn't the fucking SC2 mod. I don't vomit reads for the sake of it.

Whatever the case, this is blatant gamethrowing. If you don't get modkilled by the time the night starts, it's fair to assume that you are confirmed scum.

I don't think you know what gamethrowing is.

You are doing it again by saying random things. I never said this was the sc2 mod, we know it is not the sc2 mod. I was saying this is a punishment for my play on the sc2 mod.

I am town, not going to be modkilled.

[Richard Dawkins]

When two opposite points of view are expressed with equal intensity, the truth does not necessarily lie exactly halfway between them. It is possible for one side to be simply wrong.

All the best,

Dick Dawkins

[SUPERDUCK]

When two opposite points of view are expressed with equal intensity, the truth does not necessarily lie exactly halfway between them. It is possible for one side to be simply wrong.

All the best,

Dick Dawkins

What is the point of playing if you do this. I hope you get lynched regardless of alignment.

Sadly I think you are leaning more town,and want to hear more from sparknuts before clarence gets lynched by the donkey train

-Sparknuts

[Clarence]

Hopefully I've provided enough info from my lynch train. The arguments against me are rather thin, and I can't refute if there isn't any solid one. Regardless, SOME who refused to vote me are more likely to be scum than those who didn't: so they can get credit for not voting on a mislynch.

[Clarence]

Morp

[Keiichi]

The arguments against me are rather thin, and I can't refute if there isn't any solid one.
What's not solid about you not scumhunting, voting without backing it up even when demanded for reasons, not responding to accusations made over a day ago, and being among the most fucking useless players all day long?

[Morp]

The Clarence lynch is terrible and we need a better one. He's made a whopping 7 posts and the best argument to vote him was to pressure him into talking more. This is a weak scumtell, if one at all, and if he flips town we'll have absolutely no information to work off of tomorrow. The train is lazy, and given we have 2-3 scum at the moment, I would not be surprised if the train is being majorly sheeped by scum.

Fortunately, my coming into this day late means I've been able to read for the patterns the rest of you have been missing. There is a much better candidate for today's lynch:

SUPERDUCK

Let's review:

Claiming town or charmander. Ash abandonded his pidgetto in season 1 and never came back, and the rng god's would never make me become what I hate.

-vote fire
Spends the opening post leaving open the possibility that he's one of the scum. On it's own, this could be cute D1 trolling, (See Calix's play in S-FM: The Wrath of Lady Death, which was actually a neut play) but he keeps it up.


Eh I read ??? as being a person, the list is not as egregious now I suppose.... actually no it is still pretty odd. You still have not said why you switched from morp and I being cult to it being clarence by himself.

-Charmander Char
If he's town, this is simply anti-productive fluff.


Oh I thought dousing them with ash was a friendly way to keep them warm at night... my bad. Do you expect me to take your read seriously after your partner has been all over the place? I see where your read is coming from, but it was more of a joke about how ash abandons all of his good pokemon (butterfree, pidgetto, squirtle, charizard, etc.)

Also it looks to me like fire culted somebody he thought would go under the radar day one (keiichi) and stepped in to steer town in a different direction after keiichi was pinged out.

6 am will probably be going to sleep soon, SuperJack let me know your thoughts when you get on!

-Duck
After being called out on his counter-productivity, he doubles down. It's as if he thinks scum would have dropped the ruse by now if they were claiming to be scum; in reality, Duck is just coming across as insecure scum who can't figure out why admitting a scum role isn't pro-town.

But wait, there's more!
But here's the most telling part: he's only hunting cult. It's one thing to joke Charmander, but another to actually pursue his wincon. But this cult fetish doesn't stop there:


I realize this, I said I do not want to lynch clarence because I do not think he is the trainer. The Fire+keiichi side has voted him, I have wanted to lynch him, and some of the lurkers have wanted to lynch him. Where are his partners? me, ROFL?
Again, duck is only trying to lynch cult today. A charmander lynch would be a resoundingly successful lynch, but he's not even willing to consider it.


LOL you actually have me so tilted. If you believe this post you are beyond a waste of time to play with. IGNORE WHAT THEY SAY. This is the most anti town thing I have ever seen on day1. Superjack has not lurked this game so that is invalid, and if you think im a troll well you suck at the game.

To the other dumb half of empathy it makes perfect sense. Every person pushing one of the lurkers while ignoring the others, is that not strange? I realize he has had shitty interactions, I would lynch him by his posts alone, but if he turns out to be cult with someone like dawkins then its this retarded towns fault for allowing players to actually troll.
The cult tunnel becomes so obvious that it hurts. This is what I'm talking about by patterns that show up if you re-read the thread.


Even now you decide to question why I call you town for a seemingly bad reason. You have not been as active, but instead of jumping on one of the three vote trains you come out of nowhere and vote somebody who has been useless and ignores giving their reads when pinged out. If you were evil you would probably be like sparknuts and jump on the clarence lynch train.

-DucK
This is where Duck tries to justify a strong townread on someone has made 6 posts. Even Gyrlander calls him out on it! Duck knows he has to act town, so he's trying to give a townread; but no one with a town perspective would be confident that Gyrlander is town. This is a fake read, and town has no incentive to give fake reads. If Duck flips cult, though, this would look like Gyrlander trying to distance himself from a partner's poor play.

And then the meltdown:

I guess I did not soft claim hard enough throughout the fucking day.

Hardclaiming TPR, fuck all of you idiots for tunneling on stupid fucking reads and connections that do not fucking exist.

Lets lynch clarence, I will join the cult, and then we can run over you bag of misfits.

-Duck
No I refuse to vote clarence, I WOULD RATHER GET LYNCHED TODAY THEN to lynch clarenece. The fact you think there is ANY chance of me getting roleblocked tonight shows you have not been following this game correctly whatsoever.

Please I implore you lynch me instead, so I do not have to deal with this train of donkeys on a day2 mislynch.
He can't even decide what crazy gamethrowing-if-town threat he's going to make. Tries to suggest he's been softclaiming TPR and that he's prepared to gamethrow. If he were actually up for a gamethrow, he'd be reprimanded by the host by now. He's not, which means this is all a ruse, and a shallow one at that. This is a textbook example of flailing.

And then, the botched attempt to un-flail.

What is the point of playing if you do this. I hope you get lynched regardless of alignment.

Sadly I think you are leaning more town,and want to hear more from sparknuts before clarence gets lynched by the donkey train

-Sparknuts
Sparknuts, really? One can shit on the Clarence train because it is validly a poor train, but a Sparknuts train is trash for the same reasons; these players haven't remotely said enough to be town. In the same post he townreads Richard Dawkins, who has been quoting the IRL figure instead of posting substance this entire day and pressures another lurker. Pressuring lurkers is the classic scum tactic of saying "oh look guys, I'm here making people contribute more, see!" without actually having to scumread someone who will fight back.

Sorry Duck, everyone has to have their first experience of being scum sometime. You've definitely got the heart for this game, and I hope to see you in the future; there's potential here.

-Matt

[Keiichi]

LOL at Morp not doing shit all day long (even when both orpz and MattZed have been lurking this thread multiple times) and trying to derail the lynch at the last moment.

[Morp]

LOL at Morp not doing shit all day long (even when both orpz and MattZed have been lurking this thread multiple times) and trying to derail the lynch at the last moment.
You posted three minutes after I did. Did you actually read my post, or are you just content to lock in a poor lynch 7 hours before day ends?

[Keiichi]

You posted three minutes after I did. Did you actually read my post, or are you just content to lock in a poor lynch 7 hours before day ends?
I skimmed through it after your "Clarence is only being voted for pressure" bullshit. Then noticed you were pushing the only likely lynch candidate other than Clarence.

That said, I read the whole thing after. It's a blatant attempt at a derail, and the funniest part is that you claim SuperDuck is Charmander. Who gives a fuck about Charmander D1? The Trainer is the priority.

[SUPERDUCK]

Don't want you quote your entire post, but Morph

The issue is I am used to playing with people who know how I play. My opening was on purpose to get reads. I like that you and fire have followed up on it. You are correct that I am tunnled 100% on cult. If any person came out and said I am the charmander I cant play anymore, I would still rather rng the vote to try and hit cult. Anybody who plays with me knows I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE being culted, and have been banned from cult gamethrowing as town numerous times on sc2 mafia.

As for gyrlander, I have a reason for reading him town, not going to disclose it. As for dawkins I dont think he is charmander, and I don't see him fitting in with the cult which is partially why I read him as town. I would still hammer him today if he was put at 5.

As for the whole gamethrow thing, I never said I would gamethrow. I said if town is dumb enough to lynch clarence who is likely not the cult, then I will just be culted in the night, and my lurking teammates and I will steamroll this joke of a town. How do you not see this logic. From my persepctive IF clarence is town, i know i am town, which means CULT IS NOT ON ANYBODYS RADAR. How is that not going to be a steamroll if we both are town.

I also have pushed on most people in this game. I have wanted to lynch fire, keiichi, dawkins, sparknuts, and clarence. That is 5 people I was willing to push a lynch at one point or another. At the current moment I am willing to hammer spark, dawkins, or empathy. How is pushing sparknuts scummy? I AM VOTING PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING NOTHING. I am the most active one here, which if you think im evil and attempting to lead town so fucking be it, but if we lose this is 100% not on me. I am attempting to get town to be useful, if I am evil let these lurking idiots call me out.

To sum it up, I assume you think I have been a charmander and my plan is to claim my role and hope it comes off as a joke, which leads me getting culted which I hate. I then proceed to make enemies with the entire town, and town read two people with low contribution, and defend a guy im linked to cult with.... FFS look at my post about reevaluating on fire five times. Even if I am charmander I am more fucking beneficial to town as charmander than a potentially useless fucking magikarp who sits there and does not contribute.

But sure as charmander I don't put clarence at fucking 5 votes to be hammered by anyone. People if you are going to read me as evil at least be consistent, am i charmander or teh fucking cult.

-Pissedoffduck who really has a strong strong strong strong strong mafia read on sparknuts

[SUPERDUCK]

I skimmed through it after your "Clarence is only being voted for pressure" bullshit. Then noticed you were pushing the only likely lynch candidate other than Clarence.

That said, I read the whole thing after. It's a blatant attempt at a derail, and the funniest part is that you claim SuperDuck is Charmander. Who gives a fuck about Charmander D1? The Trainer is the priority.

So you think I am charmander, and clarence is the cult? If so who do you think clarence is allied with if not me. You seem to have gone hard on me, to tunneling clarence.

-Duck

[Morp]

I skimmed through it after your "Clarence is only being voted for pressure" bullshit. Then noticed you were pushing the only likely lynch candidate other than Clarence.

That said, I read the whole thing after. It's a blatant attempt at a derail, and the funniest part is that you claim SuperDuck is Charmander. Who gives a fuck about Charmander D1? The Trainer is the priority.
Sticking on a bad train when there's more than enough time to change to a decent one is plain anti-town. What, exactly, are you hoping to get out of the Clarence lynch? If he flips town we have absolutely nothing to work with tomorrow.

Don't pretend for a moment that a Charmander lynch today is a bad thing. Sure, we can dream about getting the cult leader D1, but we still need to lynch scum to win. If we ignore him now and fail to lynch scum, we'll have wasted a lynch that we can't earn back later. There's almost no game of mafia where letting your strongest scumread live is the right call. He could even be cult, and you haven't given a reason why Clarence is more likely.

If you're as focused on going after cult leader as you say you are, why Clarence? What, more than any other player, makes him cult leader?

[Keiichi]

-Pissedoffduck who really has a strong strong strong strong strong mafia read on sparknuts
Fancy elaborating on that read?

When you voted Sparks, all you said is that you'd like to hear more from him.

[Keiichi]

@>Morp: I've stated multiple times how Clarence's play is scummy as fuck.
You tried to justify derailing the thread on the basis that Clarence is just a lurker. Well, not my problem; we (AIVION and myself, and then Slaol) were asking questions to Clarence while he wa online, and he refused to do anything of use.

I'm not going to let this worthless scum live just because he's a lurker. Hell, in case you've been living under a rock, I've been pushing pretty hard to make this community as unfriendly to lurkers as possible. and I'm not letting scum win by not playing.

[SUPERDUCK]

Fancy elaborating on that read?

When you voted Sparks, all you said is that you'd like to hear more from him.

Ofc, I am pretty sure everyone is going to hate this read and I expect to get votes for it, but hereeeeee we goooo:

The read stems from my experience on sc2 mafia with rookie mafia tells. First I started reviewing the first charmander game to learn how forum mafia worked, and I did not like Spark's play in either game, seemed similar from the small parts I skimmed of that game, and he was evil.

This game in particular he has said "fake vote its not in the vote count" "someone really wants to get fucked"
For me personally I see this as the equivalent as "any leads" or "random", as in hes pretending he is a part of the town, but not actually contributing

"I think clarence is charmander we should lynch him"
Piggybacking off of somebody's read that we are linked, but that he could get behind lynching clarence, easy mislynch for him

"im curious of morp" "what did he do"
Oh look I don't have a fucking backbone I will look to others reads and never give my reads? I am sure I will vote all by myself! OH WAIT Nope I will vote somebody because another person told me to. This is mafia not fucking buildasheep workshop.

Like I said, I will receive a lot of hate for this read, but I rather be wrong than not be heard.

-Duck

[Keiichi]

So you think I am charmander, and clarence is the cult? If so who do you think clarence is allied with if not me. You seem to have gone hard on me, to tunneling clarence.

-Duck
Like I've told AIVION in Skype since the start, I'm not sure you are scum, but your replies and behaviour have been anti-town as fuck.

Some quotes by me from Skype regarding you:


What do you make of Superduck? Legit scum or lynchbaiting?
---------------------------------------------
Agreed. Most if not all attacks by Superduck are based on weak, rather meaningless things. Regardless of whether they are right or not.
--------------
There's a good chance that SuperDuck isn't scum. Whatever the case, what he's doing is fucking horrible play, and the Town would benefit from his death either way.
No idea. It's that point where you have to tell if they're dumb or scum.
----------------------
[/quote]

At the start, I though you were lynchbaiting. Then started scumreading you after you keep trying to force scumreads on this account after my "stop wasting my time" reply, which exposed how said reads had no logical basis. I can't decide if you are actually scum or simply playing bad due to emotions.

Clarence, on the other hand, is scum 100%. I'm not sure about their partner, but this failed attempt by Morp at derailing the lynch will be damning as hell if Clarence is indeed the Trainer.

[SUPERDUCK]

didn't read the post as all, i am pretty sure that is OGI and should be deleted? IIRC superjack told me not to post skypelog chat, or else I would just post my skype chat with SJ and i would be confirmed town

[Keiichi]

This game in particular he has said "fake vote its not in the vote count" "someone really wants to get fucked"
For me personally I see this as the equivalent as "any leads" or "random", as in hes pretending he is a part of the town, but not actually contributing

"I think clarence is charmander we should lynch him"
Piggybacking off of somebody's read that we are linked, but that he could get behind lynching clarence, easy mislynch for him

"im curious of morp" "what did he do"
Oh look I don't have a fucking backbone I will look to others reads and never give my reads? I am sure I will vote all by myself! OH WAIT Nope I will vote somebody because another person told me to. This is mafia not fucking buildasheep workshop.

Like I said, I will receive a lot of hate for this read, but I rather be wrong than not be heard.

-Duck
I agree that Spark has been mostly sheeping and/or not really contributing much that hasn't been said before.
What makes you think this is scum sheeping as opposed to Town not really bothering with the game?

[Clarence]

Like I've told AIVION in Skype since the start, I'm not sure you are scum, but your replies and behaviour have been anti-town as fuck.

Some quotes by me from Skype regarding you:

No idea. It's that point where you have to tell if they're dumb or scum.
----------------------


At the start, I though you were lynchbaiting. Then started scumreading you after you keep trying to force scumreads on this account after my "stop wasting my time" reply, which exposed how said reads had no logical basis. I can't decide if you are actually scum or simply playing bad due to emotions.

Clarence, on the other hand, is scum 100%. I'm not sure about their partner, but this failed attempt by Morp at derailing the lynch will be damning as hell if Clarence is indeed the Trainer.[/QUOTE]

Tell me, if I flipped town, what would you do?

[Keiichi]

didn't read the post as all, i am pretty sure that is OGI and should be deleted? IIRC superjack told me not to post skypelog chat, or else I would just post my skype chat with SJ and i would be confirmed town
It's not in the rules, and previous hydra games have allowed to post Skype chats, but let's pretend they aren't chat logs, and instead just "old thoughts of mine regarding you". Plus for all you know, I can be making up all of that.

[Keiichi]

Tell me, if I flipped town, what would you do?
Keep scumhunting and internally scream "fucking useless lurkers".

[SUPERDUCK]

I agree that Spark has been mostly sheeping and/or not really contributing much that hasn't been said before.
What makes you think this is scum sheeping as opposed to Town not really bothering with the game?

... oh I kinda assumed everyone was vested in the game. I guess I care too much. I really should stop wasting my time, I have dreamhack austin to prepare for, and I have been sitting here 24/7 trying to find the evil instead of practicing. Which is why I have been going all over the place with my pressuring when I see non contributors.

Morp you said earlier that the evils are likely to lurk in this game, but I have done the complete opposite. Do you think I am just a new player who did not understand the correct way to play this setup?

As charmander why do I not push the clarence lynch train....

-Duck

[Keiichi]

... oh I kinda assumed everyone was vested in the game. I guess I care too much.
You care alright. Regardless of alignment or anything particular to this game, don't give up on being an active player just because some others do. </offtopic>

[Gyrlander]

I'm sad I haven't contributed anything at all to this game. I'll go to sleep and when I return I'll be more than prepared to get da bad trainer (Unless you all are correct and know each one identity already LOL I'm surprised)

I like how Keiichi wanted my vote on Clarence. He did it on a kind way saying that Dawkins (beach) deserved a lynch but there were more important targets. Hmm. You convinced me.

Clarence

[SUPERDUCK]

Sparknuts was the correct lynch you stupid fucks, MISLYNCH 100%

its hammer time

-clarence

[SUPERDUCK]

this is difficult to do proeperly

clarence

[The Godfather]

Clarence has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Clarence ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/28134') (6 [L-0]): Fire Viking ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=582792'), Keiichi ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=582359'), Slaol ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=582511'), SparkNuts ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=582401'), SUPERDUCK ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=583171'), Gyrlander ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=583165')
Morp ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/28140') (1 [L-5]): Clarence ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=583063')
SUPERDUCK ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/28142') (2 [L-4]): Empathy17 ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=582312'), Morp ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=583069')

[BananaCucho]

As the wild pokemon reached the forest, the smell of ash was in the air. Clearly the rogue charmander was learning new moves and fast.

Across the plains there was a rustling in the bushes. Clarence, a Rattata, scampered off to investigate it alone. Before the others had realized that he was gone, the shrill sound of the shrieking Rattata reverberated through the forest. By the time the other pokemon arrived, he was already gone.

Fleeing the scene, charmander felt invigorated. His growing strength gave him confidence. He would find Pokemon Trainer Red, and knew that Red would be sorry when he did.

http://media.pocketmonsters.net/characters/74.png/t/200.png

Little did he know Red was watching him as he defeated Clarence. Had Red made a mistake? As fear and admiration entered his thoughts, he pondered if he should try to reconcile with charmander. Pokeball in hand, Red wondered if it was too late to bring him home.


Night 1


Players List


2 - Empathy17 (ika+Silverwolf)
3 - Fire Viking (RLVG+Firebringer)
4 - SparkNuts
5 - Gyrlander
6 - Morp (MattZed+Orpz)
7 - Slaol
8 - SUPERDUCK (SuperJack+PLZLEAVEDUCK)
9 - Richard Dawkins (Brendan+FYRE)
10 - Keiichi (AIVION+Sen)



Roles List

Charmander
Bulbasaur
Squirtle
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Pokemon Trainer Red


Graveyard

Clarence - Magikarp, lynched day 1

Night 1 ends in 24 hours

01:00:00:00

[BananaCucho]

As the wild pokemon slept, they kept watch for danger in shifts. As the sun started to peak through the trees, they were awakened by the sudden smell of ash in the air. A small fire could be seen in the distance. Charmander had learned a fire attack.

Meanwhile, Squirtle was losing hope in catching up to their brother. Every time they were close, Charmander evaded them. "We'll find him don't worry", Bulbasaur said to try to comfort the sad turtle. "If we work together with the wild Pokémon here, we may be able to restrain him and talk some sense into him".

https://45.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mas0blgkoP1r9p0joo1_500.gif

Day 2


Players List


2 - Empathy17 (ika+Silverwolf)
3 - Fire Viking (RLVG+Firebringer)
4 - SparkNuts
5 - Gyrlander
6 - Morp (MattZed+Orpz)
7 - Slaol
8 - SUPERDUCK (SuperJack+PLZLEAVEDUCK)
9 - Richard Dawkins (Brendan+FYRE)
10 - Keiichi (AIVION+Sen)



Roles List

Charmander
Bulbasaur
Squirtle
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Pokemon Trainer Red


Graveyard

Clarence - Magikarp, lynched day 1

Day 2 ends in 48 hours. The original post will be edited to show the current countdown.

02:00:00:00

[BananaCucho]

Also, friendly reminder not to quote or copy/paste real OR fake hydra skype chats

Rules for hydras are here:

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/35561-Rules-For-Archons-(AKA-Hydras)?highlight=archons

[SUPERDUCK]

sparknuts

[SUPERDUCK]

I am leading the town today unless the other PR wants to out, and then we can relook at the game. Clarence was 100% never cult, and the people tunneling on me and him are probably half dumb towns, half evils taking an easy mislynch. At this point I believe town has to go "allin" on the fact that I am town and accept that town loses if I am not town. If anyone was wondering, I hammered clarence because the only two people who reevaulated a single read on day1 were myself and morp. Morp obviously was voting me, so it was me or clarence and I went for the charmander possiblity over sleeping.

Sparknuts is not survivng this day, I have a pretty good idea who the other PR is, and if I am wrong the person I believe is PR is almost certainly trainer red. I would prefer not to give out all of my reads because it would pretty much out who I think the other pr is.

Lets make this a 2 hour day and just get the cult sparknuts lynched.

Also I believe the cult went for slaol last night not knowing which of the two I was, and did not want to risk being wrong.

Also you all suck for allowing lurkers to get a free pass, and not reevaulating a world where clarence and duck is not a thing

-Duck

[BananaCucho]

5

Whoops

[Keiichi]

5

Whoops

It's all good.

[Empathy17]

I am fine with Fire Viking leading the town. I trust them.

~SW

[Empathy17]

In other words, I'm probs gonna sheep Fire Viking.

~SW

[SUPERDUCK]

I am fine with Fire Viking leading the town. I trust them.

~SW

You actually have no say in what this town does. You are either town#5 or evil#3-4, if you are town 5 feel free to ogi me you are town so I can concede and stop wasting my time.

You trust fire after he was on the side tunneling on a confirmed town, and me. I don't know if you have been paying attention, but I AM FUCKING TOWN. 0/2 Hey after fire wants to lynch me lets see if he can go 0/3 in MYLO!!

Fire appears to have rolehunted early day1, and I probably claimed too early, but SuperJack told me clarence soft claimed, and it seemed to me at the time that the lynch was going to go on two towns. Sadly noone reevaluated and we have no information other than now I know I am playing with a bunch of donkeys.

Next time on forum mafia, Duck hosts Donkey's adventure, will the ugly duckling make his way through the herd of sheep and donkeys? Who knows!!

[Empathy17]

You actually have no say in what this town does. You are either town#5 or evil#3-4, if you are town 5 feel free to ogi me you are town so I can concede and stop wasting my time.

You trust fire after he was on the side tunneling on a confirmed town, and me. I don't know if you have been paying attention, but I AM FUCKING TOWN. 0/2 Hey after fire wants to lynch me lets see if he can go 0/3 in MYLO!!

Fire appears to have rolehunted early day1, and I probably claimed too early, but SuperJack told me clarence soft claimed, and it seemed to me at the time that the lynch was going to go on two towns. Sadly noone reevaluated and we have no information other than now I know I am playing with a bunch of donkeys.

Next time on forum mafia, Duck hosts Donkey's adventure, will the ugly duckling make his way through the herd of sheep and donkeys? Who knows!!

Are you stupid or something? When someone does what we did first post in a new day that means they have a fucking result!!

We are squirtle. Each night we can do one of two things. Water gun someone to protect them from ash, poison, burn, or capture.

OR bite someone to determine alignment. We bit Fire Viking and they are town.

So fuck off with your assumptions.

~SW

[SUPERDUCK]

Are you stupid or something? When someone does what we did first post in a new day that means they have a fucking result!!

We are squirtle. Each night we can do one of two things. Water gun someone to protect them from ash, poison, burn, or capture.

OR bite someone to determine alignment. We bit Fire Viking and they are town.

So fuck off with your assumptions.

~SW

You aren't squirtle. There would be 0 reason for you to out when he was not being pressured. It would generate more reads to see who is pressuring your confirmed check and who is working with them. Also humor me and who was your night 1 bite.

We are lynching sparknuts today, end of discussion.

-Ducktales

[SUPERDUCK]

zzzzzz let me make this more clear for people

I counterclaim squirtle

n1-gyr is town
n2-sparknuts is cult

-Ducktales

[Slaol]

In other words, I'm probs gonna sheep Fire Viking.

~SW

Please tell me there is more to this post than the piss-ant level intellect it looks like on the outside.

[Slaol]

Are you stupid or something? When someone does what we did first post in a new day that means they have a fucking result!!

We are squirtle. Each night we can do one of two things. Water gun someone to protect them from ash, poison, burn, or capture.

OR bite someone to determine alignment. We bit Fire Viking and they are town.

So fuck off with your assumptions.

~SW

this hard claim comes with only a single info reveal? Thats classic fake claiming.

[Slaol]

Sparknuts

[SUPERDUCK]

this hard claim comes with only a single info reveal? Thats classic fake claiming.

"I would like one charmander rare"

I read slaol as town or slave, and his start to today could be distancing but leaves me to believe he is now town.

3 votes to go

You have two hours to rescind your squirtle claim or we will lynch all 3 of us. 2 for 1 any fucking day boys.

-Duck

[Slaol]

Super. Do you know if there is feedback difference between a culted pokemon and the pokemon trainer? We want to hope Sparknuts is the trainer obviously and i'm wondering if we can tell.

[SUPERDUCK]

Super. Do you know if there is feedback difference between a culted pokemon and the pokemon trainer? We want to hope Sparknuts is the trainer obviously and i'm wondering if we can tell.

Did not specify. same with gyr.

Where oh where could my super wolf be. Where oh where could she be.

Hey wolfy I left my sc2 ladder game when I saw you claimed my role lets do this. You dug your grave, let me bury you.

Also I believe fire is spewed town by her and that they are not aligned.

-Duck

[Morp]

zzzzzz let me make this more clear for people

I counterclaim squirtle

n1-gyr is town
n2-sparknuts is cult

-Ducktales
You really do like making this easy, don't you?

To quote the setup:

Game starts on Day 0 with only Charmander and Pokémon Trainer Red submitting night actions (no action is possible). Night 0 ends as soon as they submit actions.

Squirtle does not get to submit an action on the first night. Squirtle has only been able to perform one action this game. You are lying. Town has no reason to be counterclaiming a TPR in order to push their otherwise unsupported hunch. The fact that you seem completely unaware of this suggests you're someone who could submit a night action N0: either Charmander or PTR.

Scumslips don't get more obvious than this. At worst, you're cult trying to take heat off of your cult leader. More likely, you're Charmander/TPR, and it's time for you to go.
SUPERDUCK

[Fire Viking]

I am on, and first thing I have to point out is how retarded SuperDuck is at fake claiming a role. Did you even read the setup?


Pedit, Morp beat me to it.

[SUPERDUCK]

facepalm

[Fire Viking]

Are you stupid or something? When someone does what we did first post in a new day that means they have a fucking result!!

We are squirtle. Each night we can do one of two things. Water gun someone to protect them from ash, poison, burn, or capture.

OR bite someone to determine alignment. We bit Fire Viking and they are town.

So fuck off with your assumptions.

~SW

This is false, they aren't Squirtle.
I am, we checked Empathy and they are town.
Weird, how they wanted to fake claim this.

-Fire

[SUPERDUCK]

This is false, they aren't Squirtle.
I am, we checked Empathy and they are town.
Weird, how they wanted to fake claim this.

-Fire

You were my pr read, but it hought you bite keiichi as magikarp..... turns out squirtle does not do a night 0 action.

Oh boy this is going to be rofl

[Fire Viking]

You guys need to fricking stop fake claiming shit.
Its not helping the town.

I need to go over stuff, but I would have considered SparkNuts a good lynch if it weren't for this bs fake claim.

-Fire

[Fire Viking]

You were my pr read, but it hought you bite keiichi as magikarp..... turns out squirtle does not do a night 0 action.

Oh boy this is going to be rofl

Why the fuck were you even hunting for power roles as town to begin with?

-Fire

[Fire Viking]

I feel Slaol is pretty scummy for sheeping that obvious horrible power role claim.
Not sure, I am going to need thoughts on this more clearly.

I am sure some town isn't really playing hard, perhaps Keiichi (assuming they weren't converted)

[SUPERDUCK]

Why the fuck were you even hunting for power roles as town to begin with?

-Fire

I was not hunting, I wanted to lynch keiichi, but upon reevaluating I thought you TMI'ed keiichi as magikarp when you town read him for almost no content. WHich is why midday I completely stopped pressuring him and yourself.

I cc'ed squirlte to get a lynch on a confirmed cult by logic standards and to get empathy to ash me tonight. I THOUGHT SQUIRTLE WOULD ASH ME NIGHT2 and have a bite check already, fail setup read 101.

My fake claim was good if squirtle got a check night1. If I had known you didnt have a n1 check on keiichi I would have lynched him or tried to at EOD

-Duck

[Fire Viking]

[CENTER]

As the wild pokemon reached the forest, the smell of ash was in the air. [COLOR="#FF0000"] Clearly the rogue charmander was learning new moves and fast.

Across the plains there was a rustling in the bushes. Clarence, a Rattata, scampered off to investigate it alone. Before the others had realized that he was gone, the shrill sound of the shrieking Rattata reverberated through the forest. By the time the other pokemon arrived, he was already gone.

Fleeing the scene, charmander felt invigorated. His growing strength gave him confidence. He would find Pokemon Trainer Red, and knew that Red would be sorry when he did.

http://media.pocketmonsters.net/characters/74.png/t/200.png

Little did he know Red was watching him as he defeated Clarence. Had Red made a mistake? As fear and admiration entered his thoughts, he pondered if he should try to reconcile with charmander. Pokeball in hand, Red wondered if it was too late to bring him home.

If we want to meta read a host "flavor" which I am not saying to heavy rely on.
First implies, that someone is definitely ashed on, either A) Just from N0, or B) Another person and Bulbasaur failed to block another perosn.

The second, implies that red hasn't captured Charmander. So they are still separate.

-Fire

[Morp]

Why the fuck were you even hunting for power roles as town to begin with?

-Fire
The better question is "why were you using a fakeclaim TO TRY TO END DAY EARLY?"


Lets make this a 2 hour day and just get the cult sparknuts lynched.

In what universe is fakeclaiming sheriff and suggesting to end discussion 4% into day a pro-town move?

Fire, we just had the discussion about not letting scumslips slide. He's already slid by with a scummy performance D1. Letting a scum this obvious live D2 is just idiot.

-Matt

[Fire Viking]

I was not hunting, I wanted to lynch keiichi, but upon reevaluating I thought you TMI'ed keiichi as magikarp when you town read him for almost no content. WHich is why midday I completely stopped pressuring him and yourself.

I cc'ed squirlte to get a lynch on a confirmed cult by logic standards and to get empathy to ash me tonight. I THOUGHT SQUIRTLE WOULD ASH ME NIGHT2 and have a bite check already, fail setup read 101.

My fake claim was good if squirtle got a check night1. If I had known you didnt have a n1 check on keiichi I would have lynched him or tried to at EOD

-Duck

You have failed heavily assuming you are actually town.
You were never going to be ashed as you are a prime mislynch target if you are town.

You are misreading a lot of things.

-Fire

[SUPERDUCK]

The better question is "why were you using a fakeclaim TO TRY TO END DAY EARLY?"



In what universe is fakeclaiming sheriff and suggesting to end discussion 4% into day a pro-town move?

Fire, we just had the discussion about not letting scumslips slide. He's already slid by with a scummy performance D1. Letting a scum this obvious live D2 is just idiot.

-Matt

Becuase i am 100% sure they are cult, and I don't want squirtle to out if they can ash me and prevent a conversion thinking I am pr and have no protection.

Turns out I am bad at this game rippppp

[Fire Viking]

The better question is "why were you using a fakeclaim TO TRY TO END DAY EARLY?"



In what universe is fakeclaiming sheriff and suggesting to end discussion 4% into day a pro-town move?

Fire, we just had the discussion about not letting scumslips slide. He's already slid by with a scummy performance D1. Letting a scum this obvious live D2 is just idiot.

-Matt
I don't like that play at all, but I think he is highly delusional about his own reads.

None of their actions is pro town so far. I am leaning on voting them, but I want to read more into them.
Going to iso them later today.

I am drunk right now.

-Fire

[SUPERDUCK]

You have failed heavily assuming you are actually town.
You were never going to be ashed as you are a prime mislynch target if you are town.

You are misreading a lot of things.

-Fire

You said clarence and I were the lynches, so I guess we are on the same footing. I just made a play that failed miserably because I can't read.