Scorecards

[Forum Mafia GM]

Ambient


Scorecard: 14


(+2) Kill an enemy


(+3) Kill three or more enemies


(+1) Investigated more than once


(+2) Active


(+2) Leader


(+3) Master logician


(+2) Die Day 6


(+1) Survive an attack


(-2) Be lynched





Dimwit


Scorecard: 10


(+2) Active


(+2) Leader


(+3) Master logician


(+3) Die Day 7


(+2) Change alignment


(-2) Be lynched





vornksr


Scorecard: 10


(+3) Master logician


(+3) WIFOM expert


(+2) Active


(+2) Honorable


(+2) Die Night 6


(+1) Be executed


(-3) Die before your time





TheWaaagh


Scorecard: 10


(+3) Master logician


(+2) Honorable


(+2) Active


(+2) Leader


(+1) Die Night 2





Sumikoko


Scorecard: 7


(+2) Change alignment


(+2) Sacrifice yourself


(+2) Protect a friend


(+1) Die Night 4





Illidan


Scorecard: 5


(+2) Change alignment


(+2) Active


(+3) Die Day 7


(-2) Commit suicide





Yayap



Scorecard: 5


(+3) Master logician


(+3) WIFOM expert


(+2) Active


(+1) Investigated more than once


(-2) Dishonorable bastard


(-2) Die a Sinner





Brennenburg


Scorecard: 4


(+1) Be executed


(+2) Active


(+1) Die Night 2





Zane


Scorecard: 4


(+2) Be assassinated


(+3) Die Night 1


(-1) Never perform an action





Goonswarm


Scorecard: 4


(+2) Active


(+2) Die Night 5





Capitalier



Scorecard: 3



(+3) Die Night 7



(+2) Active



(-2) Commit suicide






wolfcheese


Scorecard: 3


(+2) Honorable


(+2) Active


(+2) Die Night 5


(-3) Kill a friend





Ubernox


Scorecard: 2


(+3) Die Night 1


(-1) Never perform an action





Deathfire123


Scorecard: 2


(+1) Be executed


(+3) Die Night 1


(-2) Die a Sinner





Nick


Scorecard: 2


(+2) Honorable


(+2) Active


(+2) Leader


(-2) Be lynched


(-2) Die a Sinner





Dust


Scorecard: 2


(+2) Active


(+1) Die Night 4


(+1) Be executed


(-2) Die a Sinner





nanosystem



Scorecard: 1



(+3) Die Night 7



(-2) Lurker






BorkBot



Scorecard: 1



(+3) Die Night 7



(-2) Commit suicide






hamslyx


Scorecard: -4


(+2) Sacrifice yourself


(+2) Die Night 5


(-2) Protect an enemy


(-2) Lurker


(-4) AFK





Auckmid


Scorecard: -5


(+2) Kill an enemy


(+1) Investigated more than once


(+1) Survive an attack


(+2) Die Night 6


(-5) LVP


(-1) English failure


(-2) Dishonorable bastard


(-3) Kill a friend





Celt


Scorecard: -6


(+2) Be assassinated


(-3) Kill a friend


(-3) WIFOM fuckup


(-2) Dishonorable bastard

[Forum Mafia GM]

Two more added. These are sorted by score, btw.

[Zane]

(-1) Never perform an action? What's meant by this?
I did watch a target?
Or is it simply because I died first night ? lol :|

[Forum Mafia GM]

You tried, but failed, to perform an action.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Another two bite the dust.

[Yayap]

Where are my bonus points for escaping the jail?

[TheWaaagh]

Does Nick not get any points because he was lynched?

[Forum Mafia GM]

Forgot to put him up.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Another two are dead.

[Dust]

Hey, no kidding.

[Nick]

I thought Celt was being very obvious by claiming Assassin Day2? Still good kill because the remaining one kill will go to the assassinating Assassin.

Yayap, are you not setting yourself up to die? With your pro-Sin actions? I really thought so. I thought you were a Commoner or Sinner. Why do you end up as dishonorable bastard? Lets see if FalseTruth and Claw are also Commoner or Sinner.

And Dust, to me you seemed very pro-Eternity/Humanity. Called you a mob so you won't die. But you turned out to be a Sinner! :weird:
Too bad TheWaaagh has investigated you on Night1.

I'm lonely at the stake. :sad:
But at least Jesus is coming to join me! :>

I hope the end it before Night7 so that Roman won't betray us!

[Yayap]

Yayap, are you not setting yourself up to die? With your pro-Sin actions? I really thought so. I thought you were a Commoner or Sinner. Why do you end up as dishonorable bastard? Lets see if FalseTruth and Claw are also Commoner or Sinner.

Setting myself up to die by who? Eternity couldn't kill me, Romans chose not to kill me, town is too scared to even vote me. No instead I am killed by the faction I joined.

[Nick]

town is too scared to even vote me.
Sin rules by fear. Forcing them commit and go against Sin openly. Thus strengthening Eternity. One reason why I go along with your act and got lynched. Because some claimed that you are WIFOMing, thus ignoring you. :weird:


No instead I am killed by the faction I joined.
I think I caused your death... :unsure:

[Yayap]

It is widely know Nick that if I am town, scum have very little time to kill me before I find most scum. I was going to die regardless.

When I am not town, I still find scum, but I can choose not to kill them off.

This game not being anonymous, I couldn't hide and lurk like I usually do, I was going to die if Sin wanted me dead.

[Nick]

Ah. Then I won't feel so bad. :|

[Forum Mafia GM]

3 more died.

[Deathfire123]

WHAT DOES MAMMON DO!?

Greed is a doctor?

[Dust]

He is doktor. he doks peepol.

[Nick]

Lol at Yayap. They still revere you as a hero. Wait till they see that you are a dishonorable bastard. I bet they will be as surprised as I am.

[Forum Mafia GM]

More death.

[Dust]

Auckmid deserves the last place, below Celt. The only reason he survived is because he was lucky in his role and that if he dies then Rome switches sides. Killing an enemy only hurts more once you screwed up your own side and when you die you auto make the "enemy" into a friend.

[Deathfire123]

WHAT DOES BELPHEGOR DO!?

[Auckmid]

How did I kill an ally? I thought that the moment I die, my living faction members switch, but I auto-lose. So how would killing a sinner be concidered killing an ally?

[Deathfire123]

How did I kill an ally? I thought that the moment I die, my living faction members switch, but I auto-lose. So how would killing a sinner be concidered killing an ally?

You killed Brennenburg, he was a Commoner who could have joined your ranks >>> Ally

[Dust]

(-1) English failure

What is this about? The possibilities make me laugh though.

[Deathfire123]

What is this about? The possibilities make me laugh though.

'Everyone is Dead Chat figured out he was Tiberius through a grammar mistake that was present in his posts during the day and in his death note

[Auckmid]

Before I get completely writen off as LVP, please may all the players at least see the night 5 and 6 chats first. I was the leader of my faction, and I was ultimately the one who called the shots. However, I do feel very hard done by that I am the one who is going to take all the shit after the game due to a very costly descision because my teamates preasured me in to making a bad choice. While no one made me do anything, I was trying to be a good leader by following what my allies wanted me to do, instead of sticking strictly to what I thought the best thing to do was, which I probably shouldn't have done.

I do feel like it does come down to one thing; Who is worse, the fool, or the fool who listend?

[TheWaaagh]

Before I get completely writen off as LVP, please may all the players at least see the night 5 and 6 chats first. I was the leader of my faction, and I was ultimately the one who called the shots. However, I do feel very hard done by that I am the one who is going to take all the shit after the game due to a very costly descision because my teamates preasured me in to making a bad choice. While no one made me do anything, I was trying to be a good leader by following what my allies wanted me to do, instead of sticking strictly to what I thought the best thing to do was, which I probably shouldn't have done.

I do feel like it does come down to one thing; Who is worse, the fool, or the fool who listend?

- You revealed yourself with your grammatical mistakes in your death note and day chat
- You barely used your ability as a jailor to get information from the people you jailed. You essentially used it solely as a venue for execution
- You openly role claimed in the day chat when you didn't have to. I'm assuming because you forgot who Sumi was guarding. Which put Rome as a team in jeopardy.
- You ignored Eternity's plan that would've pretty much guaranteed a win for you so that you could half-ass betray them. If you intended to betray them, why did you even let Dimwit live that night?
- You ignored the above mentioned plan without even discussing the betrayal with the rest of your team first. If anything, you should've jailed whatever demon they wanted and then asked your teammates "Hey do we let this guy go?"
- The above post alone shows why you're the least valuable player on a team. It was decisions that you alone made that led you here, and you made them without consulting the rest of your team first. Which is why they had to rebel in the day chat.

But sure, I'd love to see the night chats.

[Nick]

I do feel like it does come down to one thing; Who is worse, the fool, or the fool who listend?

I feel that you have made a few bad judgements. But they are not serious enough to warrant an LVP. Those mistakes did not cost Roman the game.

If anything, I'll give you LVP because you end up being a fool for listening to fools?

A good leader must be able to make difficult decisions, however unpopular it may be to your followers. You cracked at the last day and failed to see your plans through to completion.

[Sumikoko]

'Everyone is Dead Chat figured out he was Tiberius through a grammar mistake that was present in his posts during the day and in his death note

I'm not gonna lie, this one sounds reeeeeally far-fetched to me.
Why does, and saying it just sounds absurd, grammar mistakes determine the identity of someone? (Did you notice there was one in the previous sentence? :))
There is a plethora of ways to make errors, like random typos and just laziness to fix it when you see one. I mean, apparently it's a pretty determining factor, since I remember in Rome chat, they advised Auckmid to make sure to use spell check and stuff. So why is that, exactly? He's not the only one I see making grammatical errors, and the only way I can think of someone exposing another via such methods is if he consistently makes subject verb agreement errors, or he misspelled the same word twice the exact same way.

Sumi doesn't get it. :(

[Brennenburg]

There's a difference between grammar and spelling mistakes and spelling every other word incorrectly. But he found him because he misused "are" in day chat as well as in the death note he left.

[Nick]

But Tiberius can always get teammates to write the jail chat and death notes?

Why don't they do that?

[Brennenburg]

That is the second facet as to why it was obvious after you stepped back and had a moment to consider things beyond the shitstorm surrounding myself and a few others. The second death note is absolutely flawless of any noticeable mistakes.

Which is suspicious in itself, and suggests there's a reason for the absolute 180 in style. It suggests there's a slip up.

[TheWaaagh]

But Tiberius can always get teammates to write the jail chat and death notes?

Why don't they do that?

No we can't Nick, he has control over that. We couldn't even read the jail chat, he had to copy and paste it for us in a separate thread.

And I did write a draft of our first death note, but he wanted to use his own. At which point I very clearly told him "Okay, but if you're going to use this, make sure you spell check your posts during the day".

Edit: Although, then again maybe this point doesn't matter as much. No one in the day chats realized it, so unless someone mentioned it in the night chats I guess Auckmid didn't really have anything to worry about since Jack and Deathfire were dead already.

Still, the potential for ruin was out there.

[Nick]

Maybe I view other players too highly.

As you said, they can take turns preparing the death note using a common format. This means that any hint from the death notes can only suggest that certain players might be Roman. We will never know if Tiberius is the first one in the rotation. And we will not know if there are any Romans who are expert in copying writing styles. Sure. We can pick up hints from other dead Romans. But I doubt the living can be exactly sure...

Roman death notes are a bloody mess - making enemies out of everyone. Sadly, I can only see that. Still a long way to go.

[Deathfire123]

No we can't Nick, he has control over that. We couldn't even read the jail chat, he had to copy and paste it for us in a separate thread.

And I did write a draft of our first death note, but he wanted to use his own. At which point I very clearly told him "Okay, but if you're going to use this, make sure you spell check your posts during the day".

Edit: Although, then again maybe this point doesn't matter as much. No one in the day chats realized it, so unless someone mentioned it in the night chats I guess Auckmid didn't really have anything to worry about since Jack and Deathfire were dead already.

Still, the potential for ruin was out there.'

[12:25:00 AM] FalseTruth: i did find auckmid herp derp
[12:25:06 AM] FalseTruth: no one cares about tiberius

Apparently a lot of people in day chat figured it out, but no one cared enough to point it out

[Nick]

Apparently a lot of people in day chat figured it out, but no one cared enough to point it out

They don't need to know who he is unless they want revenge.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Moar dead.

[wolfcheese]

The suicide virus spreads.

FM can you answer our question about what exactly honorable/dishonorable means?