S-FM: THT: The Wrath of Lady Death

[Thornholt]

DAY 1

Next to the town of Wold
Was a highground woodland
From this forest was told
To be a spirit of high demand

One day, the town of Wold
Was out of tributes to be given.
And so, this spirit of old
Let her wrath awaken

Amongst the townfolk, she chose at random
For a body to be taken
Now none would fathom
Where she was hidden

During the day she touched people
Who would take part in her game
At night they would assemble
One of them, she'd light aflame

In town, a cult was born
They worshipped the spirit of fire
Through methods most dire
To town an spirit, they were a thorn

Yet, there also was another
To town and cult, a great danger
All he wanted, was to kill the Lady
Little did he know, she'd only take his sanity
Introduction soundfile (http://vocaroo.com/i/s12Z9tD7k3kA)


"This time, we must act!", shouted the mayor
"Hell on earth awaits, if we don't stop her endeavour!"
Every citizen started nodding at their leader

"We should start by cleansing all!"
"Oh stop it! Medicine be thy only cure-all!"
Lead by senses tingling, the detective looked to the rest
Definitely hoping to find the one possessed

Be on your guard and pay attention
For all you need is a small suggestion
Only a fool would lurk about
And be the first to be wiped out

Day 1 soundfile (http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Xxjvc9NNy2)

SETUP (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34415-S-FM-Tales-from-the-Holt-of-thorns-The-Wrath-of-Lady-Death)

Roles list

Town

Detective
Healer
Crier
Priest
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Cult

Tailor
Roleblocker
Cult Member
Lady Death

Widower

Players list
Mattzed
Deathworlds
Shifty
Mikecall
Spruance
Firebringer
Yzb25
Toadette
Calix
DarknessB
Secondpassing
GameFreak
RLVG

Day 1 end (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34567-S-FM-176-THT-The-Wrath-of-Lady-Death?p=554643&viewfull=1#post554643)
Day 2 end (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34567-S-FM-176-THT-The-Wrath-of-Lady-Death?p=556080&viewfull=1#post556080)

[Hellbringer]

I am in this game.

[Calix]

Hey guys, much as we can shitpost all day, I'm just going to kick off the game with a mass role claim.

I'm Roleblocker.

I'm going to drown out all of you with my game-relevant spamming.

Discuss.

yzd25

[MattZed]

deathworlds, we may be hosting the next M-FM together, but for now there can be only one.

deathworlds

[MattZed]

Hey guys, much as we can shitpost all day, I'm just going to kick off the game with a mass role claim.

I'm Roleblocker.

I'm going to drown out all of you with my game-relevant spamming.

Discuss.

yzd25
Oh, well, if that's the case.

Calix

GG everyone. I'm the Healer, btw.

[Thornholt]

I am in this game.

Huum, I said no hydra... swutch back to Firebringer plz...😉

[Calix]

Oh, well, if that's the case.

Calix

GG everyone. I'm the Healer, btw.

That casual slip in of the role is clearly baiting the real Healer.

[Firebringer]

Huum, I said no hydra... swutch back to Firebringer plz...😉

Down with your dictator ship.

Thornholt

[DarknessB]

Hey guys, much as we can shitpost all day, I'm just going to kick off the game with a mass role claim.

I'm Roleblocker.

I'm going to drown out all of you with my game-relevant spamming.

Discuss.

yzd25

Uh, that's not actually his name so I assume your vote didn't work -- he's yzb25 (emphasis added).

[Firebringer]

Wait...

Hold on, I have a thought.
DarknessB is actually scum.

He wouldn't allow this hydra, he knows its gosu too.

SCUM TELL!!!

DarknessB

Follow me townsfolk.

[MattZed]

That casual slip in of the role is clearly baiting the real Healer.
Don't you dare encourage the real healer to come out and CC my bullshit claim.

What are you, scum?

[MattZed]

Darkness, if I lynch you in this game, will you sign for mine?

[DarknessB]

Wait...

Hold on, I have a thought.
DarknessB is actually scum.

He wouldn't allow this hydra, he knows its gosu too.

SCUM TELL!!!

DarknessB

Follow me townsfolk.

I think you're confusing this game with the SC2 mod, lol.

[DarknessB]

Darkness, if I lynch you in this game, will you sign for mine?

Less likely in fact.

[Firebringer]

I think you're confusing this game with the SC2 mod, lol.

Nope, you are affraid of the hellbringer, thats a scum tell my friend.

[Firebringer]

Less likely in fact.

Don't try to prevent him from lynching you.
Matt, if you lynch Darkness ill sign for your game.

[DarknessB]

Nope, you are affraid of the hellbringer, thats a scum tell my friend.

I am very afraid of Helz. I am not afraid of you, lol.

[Calix]

Don't you dare encourage the real healer to come out and CC my bullshit claim.

What are you, scum?

Yes, I'm Roleblocker.

Man, you're not even reading this game, are you? I guess hunting for TPRs with this many pages is just too much for you.

[Firebringer]

I am very afraid of Helz. I am not afraid of you, lol.

You should be.
And you being scared of a player says a lot about your alignment.

You slipping here? What is with you?

[Calix]

Darkness, if I lynch you in this game, will you sign for mine?

I'm bussing you for threatening my alter ego.

MattZed

[Firebringer]

I'm bussing you for threatening my alter ego.

MattZed

You pretending to be scum isn't cute, you know.

[Spruance]

Another day another citizen lmao

[DarknessB]

LOL, we're on Page 1 and this game is officially all over the place already. RVS stage, I guess?

[DarknessB]

Another day another citizen lmao

Finally, a real comment. Did you just claim Citizen on Day 1?

[Calix]

You pretending to be scum isn't cute, you know.

I'm shocked. You don't think I'm cute?

Clear scum slip.

[MattZed]

While I'm offering my D1 to bribery:

Darkness, if I lynch Firebringer would you sign for my game?

[Firebringer]

Finally, a real comment. Did you just claim Citizen on Day 1?

Isn't that obvious what he did?
Don't point out the obvious bro.

Ignore claims Page 1, they are not serious.

[Firebringer]

I'm shocked. You don't think I'm cute?

Clear scum slip.

I think you are cute, with that cat picture on skype. But you are not cute in this game.

Sorry to be honest here.

[Calix]

Another day another citizen lmao

If nothing else, can we policy lynch this guy?

Having to deal with his shit for more than a day is going to make me want to gouge out my eyeballs from the stupidity.

@MattZed, you should lynch this dude instead, then I'll sign ;)

[MattZed]

I'm bussing you for threatening my alter ego.

MattZed
Ah, Calix. Your habit of voting people who are here instead of people who need pressure rewards lurking scum to a disgusting degree.

[Spruance]

So because mine was on page 2 it was serious?

[DarknessB]

While I'm offering my D1 to bribery:

Darkness, if I lynch Firebringer would you sign for my game?

LOL, this is Forum Mafia, not Survivor. If we were playing Survivor, then sure, but probably not a good idea here.

[Firebringer]

If nothing else, can we policy lynch this guy?

Having to deal with his shit for more than a day is going to make me want to gouge out my eyeballs from the stupidity.

@MattZed, you should lynch this dude instead, then I'll sign ;)

So you are now thinking to policy a guy for obviously joking about his role?

Can you be anymore fake than this?

[MattZed]

Isn't that obvious what he did?
Don't point out the obvious bro.

Ignore claims Page 1, they are not serious.
I mean, there are no hidden roles. This game probably ends in a massclaim D2-D4.

[DarknessB]

So because mine was on page 2 it was serious?

Do you understand the point of Citizens in FM games, Spurance? Either you're lying or this was an absolutely terrible time to claim.

[Firebringer]

Well shit, DarknessB is town.



I am thinking Calix is scum and possibly Matt.

[DarknessB]

So you are now thinking to policy a guy for obviously joking about his role?

Can you be anymore fake than this?

Is Calix vs. Firebringer officially starting? :)

[Spruance]

Do you understand the point of Citizens in FM games, Spurance? Either you're lying or this was an absolutely terrible time to claim.

Why would I lie?

[Calix]

Ah, Calix. Your habit of voting people who are here instead of people who need pressure rewards lurking scum to a disgusting degree.

Yes, if I vote people who are here, they will respond sooner and we will have more information.

It's temporal economics, gawd.

[Calix]

So you are now thinking to policy a guy for obviously joking about his role?

Can you be anymore fake than this?

No, I want to policy lynch a new player. We'll have an almost-perfect sweep once we do.

I bet he'll vote out of 'self preservation' from the power of this one vote on him, omg!!1!!

Spruance

[DarknessB]

Why would I lie?

Since you are new, I'm just going to spell this out. Citizens are supposed to contribute to daytime discussion and be shields for the TPRs (i.e. draw the night kill). If you are truthful about being a Citizen, you've just ensured that the scum will not target you, which puts our TPRs at greater risk. This was not a good play assuming you are not WIFOMing.

[MattZed]

Well shit, DarknessB is town.



I am thinking Calix is scum and possibly Matt.
So basically "all Matt does is bus and get bussed by his alleged teammates"?

[secondpassing]

deathworlds

I think this is a good player, better not have him playing against me.

[Firebringer]

So basically "all Matt does is bus and get bussed by his alleged teammates"?

You saying that scum doesn't bus day 1 or something?

[Spruance]

Since you are new, I'm just going to spell this out. Citizens are supposed to contribute to daytime discussion and be shields for the TPRs (i.e. draw the night kill). If you are truthful about being a Citizen, you've just ensured that the scum will not target you, which puts our TPRs at greater risk. This was not a good play assuming you are not WIFOMing.

Draw the night kill?

I don't want to die ):

[Firebringer]

deathworlds

I think this is a good player, better not have him playing against me.

This is so scummy it crosses into too scummy to be scum.

[Calix]

Well shit, DarknessB is town.



I am thinking Calix is scum and possibly Matt.

You said that I was "pretending" to be scum, now you think I'm legit? Inconsistency alert.

Clearly you're biased by your petty quest on me. I'm only lowering myself down to your level to make it easier for you :)

[DarknessB]

Draw the night kill?

I don't want to die ):

Dude, the objective is to win the game for the Town, not to survive, unless you are suggesting that you are scum.

[Calix]

Draw the night kill?

I don't want to die ):

Bitch, you're in a game where most of the players will die. Fucking useless scum.

You're useless anyway, why are you even here?

[Firebringer]

Yes, if I vote people who are here, they will respond sooner and we will have more information.

It's temporal economics, gawd.

Economics in a game involving no economics.
Nice Calix, you should teach me about econ sometime :P

But at least I can see some townie motivation here? Not like scum can't fake that.

[MattZed]

Yes, if I vote people who are here, they will respond sooner and we will have more information.

It's temporal economics, gawd.
But if most of the scum lurk, then you never end up on a scum train.

[Spruance]

So am I supposed to want to die?
D:

[DarknessB]

So am I supposed to want to die?
D:

Is Spurance purposefully playing poorly? Because, these comments are starting to alarm me.

[MattZed]

Since you are new, I'm just going to spell this out. Citizens are supposed to contribute to daytime discussion and be shields for the TPRs (i.e. draw the night kill). If you are truthful about being a Citizen, you've just ensured that the scum will not target you, which puts our TPRs at greater risk. This was not a good play assuming you are not WIFOMing.
Why did you just out him as a TPR?

[Firebringer]

You said that I was "pretending" to be scum, now you think I'm legit? Inconsistency alert.

Clearly you're biased by your petty quest on me. I'm only lowering myself down to your level to make it easier for you :)

None of what I said is inconsistent, and consistency isn't a scum or town tell.

Also your remarks aren't helping me read you any better.

[Calix]

But if most of the scum lurk, then you never end up on a scum train.

How do you know all the scum are lurking, hm?

I get that you're fucking ancient and all, but scum have evolved since then :)

[DarknessB]

Economics in a game involving no economics.
Nice Calix, you should teach me about econ sometime :P

But at least I can see some townie motivation here? Not like scum can't fake that.

Calix was getting at supply and demand, Fire -- i.e. if you pressure people, they will be more likely to respond.

[Firebringer]

I just want to give a little WIFOM here, my role is confirmable.
So yeah.

Just putting that out there now.

[Calix]

None of what I said is inconsistent, and consistency isn't a scum or town tell.

Also your remarks aren't helping me read you any better.

I don't care how you read me. We both know that we are going to try and lynch each other sooner or later anyway, lol.

Better start the Love Triangle of Cancer Wars.

[DarknessB]

Why did you just out him as a TPR?

Why do you assume he's a TPR? Based on his other comments, I'd conclude he's a very foolish Citizen.

[Spruance]

Is Spurance purposefully playing poorly? Because, these comments are starting to alarm me.

Not all citizens are created equally. Citizens have feelings and individuality too.

If I happen to be a citizen who doesn't want to die, then who are you to judge.

[MattZed]

How do you know all the scum are lurking, hm?

I get that you're fucking ancient and all, but scum have evolved since then :)
If you believed in evolution, you'd know you're creating an adaptive pressure that will lead to a breed of lurking scum.

[DarknessB]

Not all citizens are created equally. Citizens have feelings and individuality too.

If I happen to be a citizen who doesn't want to die, then who are you to judge.

Holy crap, you're going to be useless this game. There's always one...

[MattZed]

Why do you assume he's a TPR? Based on his other comments, I'd conclude he's a very foolish Citizen.
Of course he's a Citizen.

Good thing we're not voting our solid town reads.

[Spruance]

Bitch, you're in a game where most of the players will die. Fucking useless scum.

You're useless anyway, why are you even here?

):

Calix

I shall use my day voting powers for the benefit of this town

[Calix]

So am I supposed to want to die?
D:

Wow, he's not even responding to me and he's pretending to be even more useless than in that other game that I shall not mention.

He's definitely scum who knows that I will wreck him in a debate.

Everyone should vote him so that he can spectate and learn how to play properly. Do you really want him dragging us down?

Scum, bus him please.

[Calix]

):

Calix

I shall use my day voting powers for the benefit of this town

Ha! Called it, you fuck.

What a wanker, doing the same OMGUS and thinking that's a valid reaction.

[Spruance]

Wow, he's not even responding to me and he's pretending to be even more useless than in that other game that I shall not mention.

He's definitely scum who knows that I will wreck him in a debate.

Everyone should vote him so that he can spectate and learn how to play properly. Do you really want him dragging us down?

Scum, bus him please.

Don't post before you read the previous posts. In b4 SALTED

[Firebringer]

Wow, he's not even responding to me and he's pretending to be even more useless than in that other game that I shall not mention.

He's definitely scum who knows that I will wreck him in a debate.

Everyone should vote him so that he can spectate and learn how to play properly. Do you really want him dragging us down?

Scum, bus him please.

Really?
There is so many flawed reasoning here I don't even know where to begin.

Its like 90% confirmation bias.

[DarknessB]

):

Calix

I shall use my day voting powers for the benefit of this town

You realize what OMGUS is, right? Are you trying to win the Stealthbomber award for scummiest Day 1 play?

[secondpassing]

Citizen = Cultist? Okay

Spruance

[MattZed]

Ha! Called it, you fuck.

What a wanker, doing the same OMGUS and thinking that's a valid reaction.
He's voted someone who's claimed scum and tried to push a policy lynch. Neither of these things help D1 discussion. He has a valid read, and you're just discrediting it like Darkness did to Yuki in Colder War.

[Calix]

Don't post before you read the previous posts. In b4 SALTED

You think a vote does anything?

You're such a coward that one vote from me sends you into overdrive because clearly one vote in the early stages is going to do anything.

[Spruance]

You realize what OMGUS is, right? Are you trying to win the Stealthbomber award for scummiest Day 1 play?

What does OMGUS mean

[MattZed]

You realize what OMGUS is, right? Are you trying to win the Stealthbomber award for scummiest Day 1 play?
Why are you defending Calix instead of thinking Spruance might have a reason?

[Calix]

He's voted someone who's claimed scum and tried to push a policy lynch. Neither of these things help D1 discussion. He has a valid read, and you're just discrediting it like Darkness did to Yuki in Colder War.

And both were town, so your point is...?

[Toadette]

4 pages in half an hour. Wtf.


Hey guys, much as we can shitpost all day, I'm just going to kick off the game with a mass role claim.

I'm Roleblocker.

I'm going to drown out all of you with my game-relevant spamming.

Discuss.

yzd25

Only scum call for a mass claim day 1

[MattZed]

What does OMGUS mean

Oh My God You Suck

Usually used to refer to the behavior of voting someone who just voted you. It's considered a mild scumtell.

[DarknessB]

What does OMGUS mean

Stands for Oh My God, U Suck. Basically means you only voted someone because they were pushing on or voted you. It's an indicator of scummy play -- i.e. you didn't think Calix was scum until she started pushing on you, as opposed to reaching that conclusion independent of her view of you.

[Calix]

Why are you defending Calix instead of thinking Spruance might have a reason?

No, he does this every game. He's a dumb newbie who only gives a shit about his own survival at the expense of everything else. How is that going to help town in the long run?

We don't have a vigilante, so we might as well settle for pruning the player list here.

[DarknessB]

4 pages in half an hour. Wtf.



Only scum call for a mass claim day 1

Mama? :toad:

[Thornholt]

7

forgot to add this

[MattZed]

And both were town, so your point is...?
It's better for town to actually discuss things than to pretend the opposition couldn't possibly have a good reason to be voting.

[DarknessB]

Why are you defending Calix instead of thinking Spruance might have a reason?

If Spurance has a reason, he can share with us -- doesn't need you to fight his battles. Why are you defending Spurance instead of asking him to give us his reason?

[secondpassing]

I'm off to make egg rolls. Vote Spruance for Secretary of Date. I the meantime.

Vote Deathworlds for Homeland Security leader..

[Spruance]

No, he does this every game. He's a dumb newbie who only gives a shit about his own survival at the expense of everything else. How is that going to help town in the long run?

We don't have a vigilante, so we might as well settle for pruning the player list here.

I don't think it was an 'OMGUS'
His fixation for getting me lynched is beyond the normal 'read' that someone may have.
Also I agree with MattZed's reasoning

[MattZed]

No, he does this every game. He's a dumb newbie who only gives a shit about his own survival at the expense of everything else. How is that going to help town in the long run?

We don't have a vigilante, so we might as well settle for pruning the player list here.
How do you know he's voting you out of a survival instinct?

[Calix]

Vote Count

Yo, here's the current vote count since the chat exploded in half an hour.

Spruance (2):
Calix, secondpassing
Calix (2):
MattZed, Spruance

[secondpassing]

I'm off to make egg rolls. Vote Spruance for Secretary of Date. I the meantime.

Vote Deathworlds for Homeland Security leader..

So many typos.

[DarknessB]

I don't think it was an 'OMGUS'
His fixation for getting me lynched is beyond the normal 'read' that someone may have.
Also I agree with MattZed's reasoning

Okay, thanks for clarifying your position. That having been said, it would have been preferable for you to express this thought vs. Matt. Might lead us to conclude that you two are associating, because how often does MattZed defend people against lynches on Day 1?

[MattZed]

Toadette, if you don't get in here and call Calix out for trying a policy lynch, I'm going to have to assume Spruance is actually scum and you're bussing him.

[Calix]

How do you know he's voting you out of a survival instinct?

Reread the first part of the quote.

I'm not arguing that he's scum, although his behaviour does indicate this. I'm arguing that he's a confirmed burden on the town and that's why Day 1 should be used to lynch him.

The fact that people haven't hopped on despite his piss-poor responses is telling enough, imo.

[DarknessB]

How do you know he's voting you out of a survival instinct?

Other than his several posts about not wanting to die and not wanting to be targeted? I dunno. :)

[deathworlds]

deathworlds

I think this is a good player, better not have him playing against me.

lol so if im playing against you, that makes you scum

gg

secondpassing

[Toadette]

If nothing else, can we policy lynch this guy?

Having to deal with his shit for more than a day is going to make me want to gouge out my eyeballs from the stupidity.

@MattZed, you should lynch this dude instead, then I'll sign ;)

No policy lynching. What is up with you already?

[DarknessB]

Reread the first part of the quote.

I'm not arguing that he's scum, although his behaviour does indicate this. I'm arguing that he's a confirmed burden on the town and that's why Day 1 should be used to lynch him.

The fact that people haven't hopped on despite his piss-poor responses is telling enough, imo.

Spurance = Spurataki Oni? I'll consider this if he doesn't shape up and stop being useless.

[Calix]

Toadette, if you don't get in here and call Calix out for trying a policy lynch, I'm going to have to assume Spruance is actually scum and you're bussing him.

I tried policy-lynching Yuki as the Super TPR Vigilante in the last game we were in. It's a null tell.

I like how you're trying to drag around other players to do what you want them to though. Why don't you continue to 'call me out'?

[Spruance]

Okay, thanks for clarifying your position. That having been said, it would have been preferable for you to express this thought vs. Matt. Might lead us to conclude that you two are associating, because how often does MattZed defend people against lynches on Day 1?

What is wrong with fellow citizens engaging in friendly association? We would never get anyway if nobody ever agreed with anyone else.

[Toadette]

Well shit, DarknessB is town.



I am thinking Calix is scum and possibly Matt.

There is nothing that indictates already this early that DarknessB is town. Stop making shit up.

[DarknessB]

No policy lynching. What is up with you already?

I am offended that you didn't respond to my post. v)o.o)>

[MattZed]

Reread the first part of the quote.

I'm not arguing that he's scum, although his behaviour does indicate this. I'm arguing that he's a confirmed burden on the town and that's why Day 1 should be used to lynch him.

The fact that people haven't hopped on despite his piss-poor responses is telling enough, imo.
So it's better to lynch a newbie townie than the scum trying to get a train going on him?

[DarknessB]

What is wrong with fellow citizens engaging in friendly association? We would never get anyway if nobody ever agreed with anyone else.

Dude, you are a total fucking idiot if you are honestly claiming as a Citizen on Day 1. I've explained it already. Please stop.

[Toadette]

This is so scummy it crosses into too scummy to be scum.

Not a thing.

[Calix]

No policy lynching. What is up with you already?

I want a clean player list. You'll disagree with my 'policing' of play styles and that's your prerogative, but I'm standing by this reasoning.

[Firebringer]

There is nothing that indictates already this early that DarknessB is town. Stop making shit up.

I am not, I went through his initial posts and his reactions, I believe his scum reactions would be different.
Do you have any reads you would like to share with the rest of the class though?

[Spruance]

Dude, you are a total fucking idiot if you are honestly claiming as a Citizen on Day 1. I've explained it already. Please stop.

By citizens I meant residents of the town, not the role just to clarify.

[Firebringer]

Not a thing.

Completely a thing, and I am not going to spend pages arguing with on it.

[DarknessB]

By citizens I meant residents of the town, not the role just to clarify.

Uh huh -- word choice matters man.

[Calix]

So it's better to lynch a newbie townie than the scum trying to get a train going on him?

How do you know he is town? He's said nothing that would indicate this aside from a role claim (which is fucking weak) and his pretense at being more useless than he already is.

Your level of confidence in that read is too goddamn high, mate.

[deathworlds]

I want a clean player list. You'll disagree with my 'policing' of play styles and that's your prerogative, but I'm standing by this reasoning.

fuck this guy

Calix

this is very anti-town behavior.

Calix + secondpassing are total fuck buddies btw voting together 'n shit

[Calix]

By citizens I meant residents of the town, not the role just to clarify.

Calling bullshit.

He claimed a role early, then took it back when it pushed him into the spotlight.

It's the equivalent of stealth's 'gambiting' as scum.

[Firebringer]

Reads List Currently:

Town
{DarknessB, Secondpassing}
{Everyone Else}
{Spruance}
{Calix}
Scum

[Toadette]

Holy crap, you're going to be useless this game. There's always one...

Don't start this again. You're over exaggerating here because Yuki's not around and you need someone to pick on.

[MattZed]

I tried policy-lynching Yuki as the Super TPR Vigilante in the last game we were in. It's a null tell.

I like how you're trying to drag around other players to do what you want them to though. Why don't you continue to 'call me out'?
lol because trying to "drag" Toadette into not supporting a policy lynch is so much work.

Every post I've been making has been calling you out. This train is a policy lynch plain and simple. Are we going to have another Colder War where we get stuck trying to push one?

[Firebringer]

fuck this guy

Calix

this is very anti-town behavior.

Calix + secondpassing are total fuck buddies btw voting together 'n shit

Deathworlds approach on this isn't exactly from town view, though I do think Calix is scum, so I am conflicted on this issue.

[Calix]

fuck this guy

Calix

this is very anti-town behavior.

Calix + secondpassing are total fuck buddies btw voting together 'n shit

Yes, because scum are just that obvious and desperate for a lynch on Day 1, of all days :rolleyes:

I've already been scum with second once - and that's twice more than I can stand.

[Firebringer]

lol because trying to "drag" Toadette into not supporting a policy lynch is so much work.

Every post I've been making has been calling you out. This train is a policy lynch plain and simple. Are we going to have another Colder War where we get stuck trying to push one?

Matt you go for the easy defenses man.
Putting you farther down into scum.

[Spruance]

Calling bullshit.

He claimed a role early, then took it back when it pushed him into the spotlight.

It's the equivalent of stealth's 'gambiting' as scum.

I never took it back, I was just not trying to imply my role twice, so I clarified it.

[Calix]

lol because trying to "drag" Toadette into not supporting a policy lynch is so much work.

Every post I've been making has been calling you out. This train is a policy lynch plain and simple. Are we going to have another Colder War where we get stuck trying to push one?

Well done! I've been calling it a policy lynch from the very post I voted him.

Yes we are. I'm here to start drama and I've got it.

[DarknessB]

Don't start this again. You're over exaggerating here because Yuki's not around and you need someone to pick on.

I'm encouraging him to shape up and stop posting thoughtless comments. Notice how I have not voted on him?

[DarknessB]

lol because trying to "drag" Toadette into not supporting a policy lynch is so much work.

Every post I've been making has been calling you out. This train is a policy lynch plain and simple. Are we going to have another Colder War where we get stuck trying to push one?

Toadette is anti-policy lynch. As in stop trying to make "policy lynch" happen, it's not happening. Yes, I went Mean Girls on this post.

[Calix]

Don't start this again. You're over exaggerating here because Yuki's not around and you need someone to pick on.

lol at Toadette misrepping yet another argument.

This is going to be predictable.

[Firebringer]

I'm encouraging him to shape up and stop posting thoughtless comments. Notice how I have not voted on him?

Town post.

[Firebringer]

Toadette is anti-policy lynch. As in stop trying to make "policy lynch" happen, it's not happening. Yes, I went Mean Girls on this post.

I couldn't tell at all, hey darkness whats your reads so far. You should be getting some vibes from this game right now.

Town, Scum, whats your thoughts. Would like to hear it beyond discussion on policy.

[deathworlds]

Yes, because scum are just that obvious and desperate for a lynch on Day 1, of all days :rolleyes:

I've already been scum with second once - and that's twice more than I can stand.

i've played S-FM plenty of times and i can tell you exactly how many times PoD has been an executioner targeting TDL.

twice (almost 3 times with one of my games)

RNG is a funny thing

[Calix]

Town post.

Call me opportunistic, but you know, I'm feeling like FB might be town for trying to clear town. Scum would want to cast doubt over everyone.

[Calix]

i've played S-FM plenty of times and i can tell you exactly how many times PoD has been an executioner targeting TDL.

twice (almost 3 times with one of my games)

RNG is a funny thing

Luckily for me, RNG has spared me such horrors. I'm solo this round.

[Firebringer]

Call me opportunistic, but you know, I'm feeling like FB might be town for trying to clear town. Scum would want to cast doubt over everyone.

I don't know how that is opportunistic behavior.
Opportunistic is voting someone when the general mood is shifting to lynch him.

Thats opportunistic behavior.

[deathworlds]

Luckily for me, RNG has spared me such horrors. I'm solo this round.


I'm solo this round.


solo

you neutral mother fucker

[Calix]

I don't know how that is opportunistic behavior.
Opportunistic is voting someone when the general mood is shifting to lynch him.

Thats opportunistic behavior.

Nah, I mean that people might think I'm opportunistic because I am calling you town...for calling people town. So people might think I'm trying to clear myself at the same time, you know?

[MattZed]

Call me opportunistic, but you know, I'm feeling like FB might be town for trying to clear town. Scum would want to cast doubt over everyone.
I disagree with you yet again. Firebringer's not trying to clear town, he's just quoting random posts and saying that reads are somehow useful at this stage in the game.

[DarknessB]

I couldn't tell at all, hey darkness whats your reads so far. You should be getting some vibes from this game right now.

Town, Scum, whats your thoughts. Would like to hear it beyond discussion on policy.

Calix is playing like Calix, which is to say null read right now, given she always plays this aggressively.
Toadette hasn't done anything aside from pushing back against the policy lynch -- null for now.
Death seemed a bit aggressive with his vote -- suspicious of him somewhat.
Spurance seems like the Stealthbomber for this game -- playing like crap, but probably Town.
Firebringer seems Town-leaning or at least trying harder than in other games.
MattZed seems a bit lumpy in this game and not his usual Sheriff Jailor Jr. way -- slight scum read.
secondpassing -- has he done much yet? Null for now.
Mikecall is lurking the thread, but has yet to post if I recall?

Who did I miss?

[deathworlds]

I don't know how that is opportunistic behavior.
Opportunistic is voting someone when the general mood is shifting to lynch him.

Thats opportunistic behavior.

I think he means optimistic

[Firebringer]

Nah, I mean that people might think I'm opportunistic because I am calling you town...for calling people town. So people might think I'm trying to clear myself at the same time, you know?

I guess?
Weird circular reasoning there but I can follow it.

[Firebringer]

Calix is playing like Calix, which is to say null read right now, given she always plays this aggressively.
Toadette hasn't done anything aside from pushing back against the policy lynch -- null for now.
Death seemed a bit aggressive with his vote -- suspicious of him somewhat.
Spurance seems like the Stealthbomber for this game -- playing like crap, but probably Town.
Firebringer seems Town-leaning or at least trying harder than in other games.
MattZed seems a bit lumpy in this game and not his usual Sheriff Jailor Jr. way -- slight scum read.
secondpassing -- has he done much yet? Null for now.
Mikecall is lurking the thread, but has yet to post if I recall?

Who did I miss?

None of the active posters as far as I know.

[DarknessB]

i've played S-FM plenty of times and i can tell you exactly how many times PoD has been an executioner targeting TDL.

twice (almost 3 times with one of my games)

RNG is a funny thing

Hosts might also handpick stuff because they think it is interesting -- this presupposes that those two S-FMs were randomized roles for players.

[Calix]

I disagree with you yet again. Firebringer's not trying to clear town, he's just quoting random posts and saying that reads are somehow useful at this stage in the game.

Reads on day one can be useful...on day five. I personally like reading them.

I'm going to assume this is just because of variations in playing style between the lot of us, so whatever works for you.

[deathworlds]

Hosts might also handpick stuff because they think it is interesting -- this presupposes that those two S-FMs were randomized roles for players.

im pretty sure RLVG hosted one of those games.

[Mikecall]

7 pages before I returned, shows a lot of promise

Calix

Now Calix, why the roleblocker claim? scumness at the extreme

[MattZed]

Calix is playing like Calix, which is to say null read right now, given she always plays this aggressively.
Toadette hasn't done anything aside from pushing back against the policy lynch -- null for now.
Death seemed a bit aggressive with his vote -- suspicious of him somewhat.
Spurance seems like the Stealthbomber for this game -- playing like crap, but probably Town.
Firebringer seems Town-leaning or at least trying harder than in other games.
MattZed seems a bit lumpy in this game and not his usual Sheriff Jailor Jr. way -- slight scum read.
secondpassing -- has he done much yet? Null for now.
Mikecall is lurking the thread, but has yet to post if I recall?

Who did I miss?
"The people defending my strongest town read are my top suspects."

[DarknessB]

Luckily for me, RNG has spared me such horrors. I'm solo this round.

Solo you say? That's a curious choice of word Calix.

[Calix]

im pretty sure RLVG hosted one of those games.

He hosts games which RNG the roles and the players.

Ah, fun times :')

[deathworlds]

Request for the hosts to collaborate so days don't intersect.

[Shifty]

I'm here, but my keyboard has been acting up a bit ever since I spilled 2 drips of water on the F1 button earlier.

[Calix]

7 pages before I returned, shows a lot of promise

Calix

Now Calix, why the roleblocker claim? scumness at the extreme

To kick off discussion of course.

I said in the same post that I didn't want shitposting.

I succeeded. You're welcome town.

[deathworlds]

I'm here, but my keyboard has been acting up a bit ever since I spilled 2 drips of water on the F1 button earlier.

did you try turning it off and back on?

[DarknessB]

"The people defending my strongest town read are my top suspects."

It's the RVS point in the game, Matt. You're telling me people aren't going to try to look Town-sided even if they're actually scum? Aggressively defending low hanging fruit is a good way to get some Town points if you are scum.

[DarknessB]

Request for the hosts to collaborate so days don't intersect.

Alright, stop, collaborate and listen.

[DarknessB]

I'm here, but my keyboard has been acting up a bit ever since I spilled 2 drips of water on the F1 button earlier.

Question -- Are you Watermeloann again in this game?

[Mikecall]

Calix is playing like Calix, which is to say null read right now, given she always plays this aggressively.
Toadette hasn't done anything aside from pushing back against the policy lynch -- null for now.
Death seemed a bit aggressive with his vote -- suspicious of him somewhat.
Spurance seems like the Stealthbomber for this game -- playing like crap, but probably Town.
Firebringer seems Town-leaning or at least trying harder than in other games.
MattZed seems a bit lumpy in this game and not his usual Sheriff Jailor Jr. way -- slight scum read.
secondpassing -- has he done much yet? Null for now.
Mikecall is lurking the thread, but has yet to post if I recall?

Who did I miss?

Was on my phone at that time, so couldnt go into full analysis posts.
But you consider me to lurk? I was checking to see when the game would start, but it seemed I came a bit late.

[DarknessB]

To kick off discussion of course.

I said in the same post that I didn't want shitposting.

I succeeded. You're welcome town.

Wait, if you want shitposting, I am happy to oblige. :calix:

[deathworlds]

Calix IS NEUTRAL (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34567-S-FM-176-THT-The-Wrath-of-Lady-Death?p=552907&viewfull=1#post552907)

[Mikecall]

To kick off discussion of course.

I said in the same post that I didn't want shitposting.

I succeeded. You're welcome town.

Interesting, even if you wanted to kick off posting, its just odd really.

[DarknessB]

Was on my phone at that time, so couldnt go into full analysis posts.
But you consider me to lurk? I was checking to see when the game would start, but it seemed I came a bit late.

I had no idea when you had started browsing the thread, lol. I just saw you at the bottom and didn't recall any posts yet. No, you're not a lurker given this game just started.

[Calix]

Was on my phone at that time, so couldnt go into full analysis posts.
But you consider me to lurk? I was checking to see when the game would start, but it seemed I came a bit late.

Give us your impressions of the other players and stop making excuses.

If you're going to make shitty generic vanilla posts, at least hurry up so that I can use them to prompt a day one meltdown again.

[Shifty]

did you try turning it off and back on?

Yep, I've tried about everything. I was in the middle of a dota game at the time so I can't say I had the most fun experience.

Currently posting from my phone (which I dislike btw) but I'll try to keep up.

[deathworlds]

Yep, I've tried about everything. I was in the middle of a dota game at the time so I can't say I had the most fun experience.

Currently posting from my phone (which I dislike btw) but I'll try to keep up.

rip win/loss ratio

[MattZed]

It's the RVS point in the game, Matt. You're telling me people aren't going to try to look Town-sided even if they're actually scum? Aggressively defending low hanging fruit is a good way to get some Town points if you are scum.
And this makes me "lumpy"?

Clarify for me again what the purpose your readwall was.

[DarknessB]

Yep, I've tried about everything. I was in the middle of a dota game at the time so I can't say I had the most fun experience.

Currently posting from my phone (which I dislike btw) but I'll try to keep up.

By any chance, is that an LG-D850 using Tapatalk? :)

[Calix]

Calix IS NEUTRAL (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34567-S-FM-176-THT-The-Wrath-of-Lady-Death?p=552907&viewfull=1#post552907)

Ah yes, one word is enough to tell us all about alignment. It's not like town are solo because they have no night chat or any frame of reference aside from their overpowered reading abilities and any potential night actions.

We have a 3-member mafia and you're hunting for the Neutrals? I like them priorities.

[Shifty]

Question -- Are you Watermeloann again in this game?

Maybe. Have I made a bad name for myself yet?

[DarknessB]

And this makes me "lumpy"?

Clarify for me again what the purpose your readwall was.

Firebringer asked me for my thoughts so I posted them. You are not playing like the typical MattZed this game -- something is very off...

[deathworlds]

Ah yes, one word is enough to tell us all about alignment. It's not like town are solo because they have no night chat or any frame of reference aside from their overpowered reading abilities and any potential night actions.

We have a 3-member mafia and you're hunting for the Neutrals? I like them priorities.

lady death is 1 person with 1kpn

mafia is 3 people with 1 kpn

my logic is sound

[MattZed]

Firebringer asked me for my thoughts so I posted them. You are not playing like the typical MattZed this game -- something is very off...
"Lumpy."

[deathworlds]

Ah yes, one word is enough to tell us all about alignment. It's not like town are solo because they have no night chat or any frame of reference aside from their overpowered reading abilities and any potential night actions.


And yes word choice alone, is enough to determane someones allignment.

I'm pretty sure I outted someone as scum with word choice in M-FM Batman.

[Calix]

lady death is 1 person with 1kpn

mafia is 3 people with 1 kpn

my logic is sound

Mafia have 3-man voting block which is considerably harder to take down.

Lady Death's ability has a chance of hitting scum. Mafia's kills will almost never hit scum.

There's more than one Neutral; why do you jump to Lady Death straight off the bat?

Mafia is clearly the greater threat there.

[Calix]

And yes word choice alone, is enough to determane someones allignment.

I'm pretty sure I outted someone as scum with word choice in M-FM Batman.

Multiple word choices, sure. I agree with you there.

Saying that I'm going solo is not relevant enough on its own.

Again, this is probably just different playing styles, but I would have kept that "slip" to myself and see if I would have said anything else first. More evidence that way.

[deathworlds]

Mafia have 3-man voting block which is considerably harder to take down.

Lady Death's ability has a chance of hitting scum. Mafia's kills will almost never hit scum.

There's more than one Neutral; why do you jump to Lady Death straight off the bat?

Mafia is clearly the greater threat there.

yes mafia is clearly a bigger threat.

however lady death is significantly easier to get rid of. and helps out towns numbers in the long run.

[deathworlds]

Multiple word choices, sure. I agree with you there.

Saying that I'm going solo is not relevant enough on its own.

Again, this is probably just different playing styles, but I would have kept that "slip" to myself and see if I would have said anything else first. More evidence that way.

lol it was 1 word

[Firebringer]

I am going to say deathworlds is scum on the wagon for Calix.

Everyone get on this:
Deathworlds

[MattZed]

Mafia have 3-man voting block which is considerably harder to take down.

Lady Death's ability has a chance of hitting scum. Mafia's kills will almost never hit scum.

There's more than one Neutral; why do you jump to Lady Death straight off the bat?

Mafia is clearly the greater threat there.
If we kill Lady Death scum KPN is 1 in a confirmed-roles setup. Then EZ mode begins. Lady Death would be a much more valuable catch D1. There's also the detail that her night action makes it harder for the Priest to detect scum.

[Calix]

yes mafia is clearly a bigger threat.

however lady death is significantly easier to get rid of. and helps out towns numbers in the long run.

WTF dude, we're not here for the 'easy' lynches. Scum are hard to lynch, that's the fucking point.

Mafia have Roleblocker and Tailor, you don't think taking them out is the priority?

[DarknessB]

Mafia have 3-man voting block which is considerably harder to take down.

Lady Death's ability has a chance of hitting scum. Mafia's kills will almost never hit scum.

There's more than one Neutral; why do you jump to Lady Death straight off the bat?

Mafia is clearly the greater threat there.

Did you just soft claim Lady Death, Calix?

[deathworlds]

I am going to say deathworlds is scum on the wagon for Calix.

Everyone get on this:
Deathworlds

fuck off scrub you just mad i voted you in the other game

[DarknessB]

fuck off scrub you just mad i voted you in the other game

Let's not talk about the other game in this game -- borderline OGC.

[Firebringer]

fuck off scrub you just mad i voted you in the other game

I aint no scrub you newb.
You are obvious scum.

So blatant, you are hunting for neutral when you should be hunting for scum.

[Calix]

Did you just soft claim Lady Death, Calix?

What

Why would anyone softclaim the RNG Serial Killer, like the real Lady Death is going to counter that?

I'm not Thoron. I don't softclaim scum roles.

[Spruance]

WTF dude, we're not here for the 'easy' lynches. Scum are hard to lynch, that's the fucking point.

Mafia have Roleblocker and Tailor, you don't think taking them out is the priority?

You claimed roleblocker, and since there is little reason to lie about that capability, there is a 50% chance u are the mafia role blocker.

Seems like good enough day 1 odds.

[MattZed]

I aint no scrub you newb.
You are obvious scum.

So blatant, you are hunting for neutral when you should be hunting for scum.
Neutral hunting = going for Widower

Lady Death is scum.

[deathworlds]

Let's not talk about the other game in this game -- borderline OGC.

k


I aint no scrub you newb.
You are obvious scum.

So blatant, you are hunting for neutral when you should be hunting for scum.

LADY DEATH IS SCUM YOU WINGNUT

[DarknessB]

What

Why would anyone softclaim the RNG Serial Killer, like the real Lady Death is going to counter that?

I'm not Thoron. I don't softclaim scum roles.

You seemed to be making a case why it was better that we not lynch Lady Death, which a bit odd to me...

[Firebringer]

Neutral hunting = going for Widower

Lady Death is scum.
Not talking about neutral evil or w/e talking about hunting for group scum. Don't even know why I have to point that out.


k



LADY DEATH IS SCUM YOU WINGNUT

Yes, but it isn't group scum.
Your attempts at not finding the group scum have been notied.

[Calix]

You claimed roleblocker, and since there is little reason to lie about that capability, there is a 50% chance u are the mafia role blocker.

Seems like good enough day 1 odds.

Guys, take a look at this retard who didn't even read the setup.

There is no town Roleblocker. You think my claim was legitimate? >.>

[DarknessB]

Guys, take a look at this retard who didn't even read the setup.

There is no town Roleblocker. You think my claim was legitimate? >.>

Spurance, protip my man -- read the setup please, lol.

[Firebringer]

k



LADY DEATH IS SCUM YOU WINGNUT

My certainty for you being group scum went from 70% to 90%. Holy shit, can you flail harder?

[deathworlds]

Not talking about neutral evil or w/e talking about hunting for group scum. Don't even know why I have to point that out.



Yes, but it isn't group scum.
Your attempts at not finding the group scum have been notied.

group scum is not my priority right now.

if we can find lady death (and I think I did) then we should lynch her.

if we can't we try to find people that are buddying and lynch em

[Spruance]

Guys, take a look at this retard who didn't even read the setup.

There is no town Roleblocker. You think my claim was legitimate? >.>

So if there's no town roleblocker you are 100% mafia.

Why aren't we lynching him?

[Calix]

You seemed to be making a case why it was better that we not lynch Lady Death, which a bit odd to me...

Here's my case.

We shouldn't be specifically hunting for Neutrals because MAFIA HAVE MORE VOTING POWER WHICH IS BAD.

The end.

If we hunt mafia and conveniently find Lady Death, fine. But people are voting me based on me being 'neutral' - skewed priorities.

[Mikecall]

Another day another citizen lmao

A citizen claim, interesting claim, but claiming it on the very start of the day? sounds very scum in my opinion.


While I'm offering my D1 to bribery:

Darkness, if I lynch Firebringer would you sign for my game?

Bribing other people to try and get others to get lynched, Mattzed, I aint sure what to make of this.


If nothing else, can we policy lynch this guy?

Having to deal with his shit for more than a day is going to make me want to gouge out my eyeballs from the stupidity.

@MattZed, you should lynch this dude instead, then I'll sign ;)

Aiding in the, wanting to lynch firebringer discussion, even if this is trolling, consider this = Scum

Possible Calix + Mattzed buddying?


No, I want to policy lynch a new player. We'll have an almost-perfect sweep once we do.

I bet he'll vote out of 'self preservation' from the power of this one vote on him, omg!!1!!

Spruance

Oh, it seems coming down to doing policy lynching is going to get us very far, :/, not a very good way of trying to present yourself as town


deathworlds

I think this is a good player, better not have him playing against me.

Really, saying this is a good player? no other reasons? well, that just makes you more scum.


Draw the night kill?

I don't want to die ):

Um hm, very interesting this text, really showing your town side of being a "Citizen", you are acting more like the Lady of Death


):

Calix

I shall use my day voting powers for the benefit of this town

Benefitting town, for going after Calix who tried to get discussion going with his Roleblocker claim,

Spruance

This is a far better use of a vote in my opinion, even when I am not a fan of policy lynching.

[Firebringer]

Here's my case.

We shouldn't be specifically hunting for Neutrals because MAFIA HAVE MORE VOTING POWER WHICH IS BAD.

The end.

If we hunt mafia and conveniently find Lady Death, fine. But people are voting me based on me being 'neutral' - skewed priorities.

Agreed, Calix can be back as town for now.

[DarknessB]

So if there's no town roleblocker you are 100% mafia.

Why aren't we lynching him?

Because it's very unlikely that Calix is dumb enough to scum slip that badly in her first post of the game. If anything the Lady Death comment caught me more than the role comment.

[Calix]

group scum is not my priority right now.

if we can find lady death (and I think I did) then we should lynch her.

if we can't we try to find people that are buddying and lynch em

WTF

Those shitty priorities.

That excessively high level of confidence in his read.

Never mind, I have found a better train than policy-lynching.

deathworlds

[MattZed]

Here's my case.

We shouldn't be specifically hunting for Neutrals because MAFIA HAVE MORE VOTING POWER WHICH IS BAD.

The end.

If we hunt mafia and conveniently find Lady Death, fine. But people are voting me based on me being 'neutral' - skewed priorities.
We hunt scum and kill scum wherever we find it.

deathworlds is hunting you because you showed signs of being scum. What's skewed?

[Firebringer]

group scum is not my priority right now.

if we can find lady death (and I think I did) then we should lynch her.

if we can't we try to find people that are buddying and lynch em

Lady Death is going to be hard to find because they are likely going to attempt to scumhunt as well.
Scum team have to hunt 1 player only as scum and fake reads on players.

They are easier to find today.

We should be hunting them.

[Spruance]

A citizen claim, interesting claim, but claiming it on the very start of the day? sounds very scum in my opinion.



Bribing other people to try and get others to get lynched, Mattzed, I aint sure what to make of this.



Aiding in the, wanting to lynch firebringer discussion, even if this is trolling, consider this = Scum

Possible Calix + Mattzed buddying?



Oh, it seems coming down to doing policy lynching is going to get us very far, :/, not a very good way of trying to present yourself as town



Really, saying this is a good player? no other reasons? well, that just makes you more scum.



Um hm, very interesting this text, really showing your town side of being a "Citizen", you are acting more like the Lady of Death



Benefitting town, for going after Calix who tried to get discussion going with his Roleblocker claim,

Spruance

This is a far better use of a vote in my opinion, even when I am not a fan of policy lynching.

How did Calix help the town in any way?

[Calix]

At the moment, I am good with a Spruance or deathworlds lynch.

I would have been fine with lynches on them as policy because I am an elitist snob who thinks they are inferior to me, but it's good to have evidence to back this up.

[Firebringer]

At the moment, I am good with a Spruance or deathworlds lynch.

I would have been fine with lynches on them as policy because I am an elitist snob who thinks they are inferior to me, but it's good to have evidence to back this up.

You are inferior to me sweetie.

[MattZed]

While we're doing one-word things:


Lady of Death

Mike, you intentionally mess up the name so we think you couldn't have possibly gotten the Lady Death rolecard, or just an honest mistake?


WTF

Those shitty priorities.

That excessively high level of confidence in his read.

Never mind, I have found a better train than policy-lynching.

deathworlds
Nice OMGUS. Going after someone because they're scumhunting you? You should know better than being this defensive.

[Calix]

We hunt scum and kill scum wherever we find it.

deathworlds is hunting you because you showed signs of being scum. What's skewed?

His priorities for which scum should die are scum-favoured. He automatically jumps to me being Lady Death based on ONE word, showing excessive confidence in this read and which conveniently forgets that other neutral roles exist by the way.

[Spruance]

At the moment, I am good with a Spruance or deathworlds lynch.

I would have been fine with lynches on them as policy because I am an elitist snob who thinks they are inferior to me, but it's good to have evidence to back this up.

Is anyone listening to this guy?

[DarknessB]

You are inferior to me sweetie.

Fire, I was Town-reading you up until this obvious falsehood. :calix:

[Mikecall]

group scum is not my priority right now.

if we can find lady death (and I think I did) then we should lynch her.

if we can't we try to find people that are buddying and lynch em

There are many things that make you scum on this post,

1. Not wanting to go after mafia, A rather weird statement considering the mafia pose the biggest threat with having a 3 player team
2. Killing lady death is essentially a hit and run, she could be either lurking, trying to make themselves sound town, or be semi active with posts, essentially, I rather go for mafia today than the lady death.

[Firebringer]

While we're doing one-word things:



Mike, you intentionally mess up the name so we think you couldn't have possibly gotten the Lady Death rolecard, or just an honest mistake?


Nice OMGUS. Going after someone because they're scumhunting you? You should know better than being this defensive.

Its not OMGUS if you have reasoning behind it Matt.
Jesus.

[Calix]

While we're doing one-word things:



Mike, you intentionally mess up the name so we think you couldn't have possibly gotten the Lady Death rolecard, or just an honest mistake?


Nice OMGUS. Going after someone because they're scumhunting you? You should know better than being this defensive.

Patronising as well? Ha, I may like you yet.

I didn't vote him the moment he voted me, so OMGUS does not apply here. Read the post and try again. You might even get a participation medal :)

[Firebringer]

Fire, I was Town-reading you up until this obvious falsehood. :calix:

Please cut the silly snark posts to a minimum they annoy me and aren't funny.

[MattZed]

His priorities for which scum should die are scum-favoured. He automatically jumps to me being Lady Death based on ONE word, showing excessive confidence in this read and which conveniently forgets that other neutral roles exist by the way.
lol he's been on you for a while from the claiming roleblocker and policy lynching. Your word choice simply added to the list.

Softclaiming Widower?

[DarknessB]

Its not OMGUS if you have reasoning behind it Matt.
Jesus.

This. When there's an actual explanation involved, the OMGUS scum presumption mostly goes away and it's more or less a normal vote or push.

[Calix]

Is anyone listening to this guy?

Yes, you're tacky and I hate you. Please suicide in this game so that we don't have to waste a day lynching you.

[Thornholt]

Request for the hosts to collaborate so days don't intersect.

What do you mean? Sen's game? And what do you want us to do exactly?

Also @Shifty, mechanical keyboard FTW!!!

[Mikecall]

While we're doing one-word things:



Mike, you intentionally mess up the name so we think you couldn't have possibly gotten the Lady Death rolecard, or just an honest mistake?

Mistake really, I am just finding spruance to be a very good candidate for being scum at the moment, even when he hasnt participated much that could justify him to having such a claim.

[Calix]

lol he's been on you for a while from the claiming roleblocker and policy lynching. Your word choice simply added to the list.

Softclaiming Widower?

Way to completely miss the argument.

He is too confident that I am the Neutral Killing on the basis of ONE WORD.

You now think I'm Widower because...I read the setup and came to the conclusion that there are two Neutral roles?

What meds are you currently on?

[Firebringer]

lol he's been on you for a while from the claiming roleblocker and policy lynching. Your word choice simply added to the list.

Softclaiming Widower?

Nobody is soft claiming widower...
Why would anyone do that?

[deathworlds]

Yes, you're tacky and I hate you. Please suicide in this game so that we don't have to waste a day lynching you.

Honestly, if you are a sane town member, and you arent voting this guy, you are not playing to your win condition.

[MattZed]

There are many things that make you scum on this post,

1. Not wanting to go after mafia, A rather weird statement considering the mafia pose the biggest threat with having a 3 player team
2. Killing lady death is essentially a hit and run, she could be either lurking, trying to make themselves sound town, or be semi active with posts, essentially, I rather go for mafia today than the lady death.
Mike, please try to say something Calix hasn't already said. I'm curious if you have your own opinions. You even sheeped Calix's "I claimed to be a scum role on page 1 and this was such a pro-town move for which you all should thank me."

[Spruance]

Yes, you're tacky and I hate you. Please suicide in this game so that we don't have to waste a day lynching you.

I'm fairly certain people can see through your trolling so I won't even bother defending against an obvious ab hominem

[DarknessB]

What do you mean? Sen's game? And what do you want us to do exactly?

Also @Shifty, mechanical keyboard FTW!!!

Well, you both started at the same time, so nothing right now, but when one of the games goes to night, delay the night so there's an offset so we don't have to play both games at the same time. The idea would be to have one game be in the daytime while the other game is at night, so we're not having to follow both threads at the same time. Best to PM Sen and talk it over with him.

[Calix]

Honestly, if you are a sane town member, and you arent voting this guy, you are not playing to your win condition.

Reread the chat and you'll see my comment about wanting to lynch both of you.

Why don't you back off for a minute and give your thoughts on the bigger picture? Who's town to you?

[Firebringer]

Honestly, if you are a sane town member, and you arent voting this guy, you are not playing to your win condition.

Implying someone is gamethrowing.
Just great, got any other typical scum tactics for us?

How about saying everyone voting you is scum?

[deathworlds]

What do you mean? Sen's game? And what do you want us to do exactly?

Also @Shifty, mechanical keyboard FTW!!!

Talk to Sen and see if you can have alternating days and nights.

Example: Your game is day and his game is night.
Then 24 hours (or whatever) later his game is day, and your game is night.

[MattZed]

Way to completely miss the argument.

He is too confident that I am the Neutral Killing on the basis of ONE WORD.

You now think I'm Widower because...I read the setup and came to the conclusion that there are two Neutral roles?

What meds are you currently on?
I just like to call out claims, and the widower softclaim question wasn't my main point, as anyone with an IQ above 80 could see.

Too confident? So you're adopting the D1 stance I had in Colder War where every tell is essentially a null tell? How confident do you want a person to be before they vote you D1?

[Mikecall]

Yes, you're tacky and I hate you. Please suicide in this game so that we don't have to waste a day lynching you.

I aint even sure what to say, you out right hating people even when their playstyle sounds out right scum, a nice portrayal of being a neutral overall.

[Calix]

Mike, please try to say something Calix hasn't already said. I'm curious if you have your own opinions. You even sheeped Calix's "I claimed to be a scum role on page 1 and this was such a pro-town move for which you all should thank me."

Yeah speaking of that, if I'm Lady Death, why would I claim Roleblocker?

I said in my opening post that I wanted to avoid shitposting. This is consistent.

[Spruance]

Yeah speaking of that, if I'm Lady Death, why would I claim Roleblocker?

I said in my opening post that I wanted to avoid shitposting. This is consistent.

Now he's just trolling.

Is there a mute button?

[DarknessB]

I aint even sure what to say, you out right hating people even when their playstyle sounds out right scum, a nice portrayal of being a neutral overall.

I assume suicide isn't even allowed in this game so just seems like a push-back type of comment.

[Mikecall]

Mike, please try to say something Calix hasn't already said. I'm curious if you have your own opinions. You even sheeped Calix's "I claimed to be a scum role on page 1 and this was such a pro-town move for which you all should thank me."

Fair enough, but overall, Sprunance + Calix, are ringing alarm bells for being scum overall, deathworlds is leaning scum in my eyes also.

[Calix]

I aint even sure what to say, you out right hating people even when their playstyle sounds out right scum, a nice portrayal of being a neutral overall.

I'm a hateful individual, what can I say?

Want proof? Well I tore into you quite a bit last round, huh?


I just like to call out claims, and the widower softclaim question wasn't my main point, as anyone with an IQ above 80 could see.

Too confident? So you're adopting the D1 stance I had in Colder War where every tell is essentially a null tell? How confident do you want a person to be before they vote you D1?

There's a difference between using a tell to spur on discussion and being 100% deadset that someone is XYZ role because of a word.

[Calix]

Fair enough, but overall, Sprunance + Calix, are ringing alarm bells for being scum overall, deathworlds is leaning scum in my eyes also.

You think the people going at each other are all scum...?

[Mikecall]

I assume suicide isn't even allowed in this game so just seems like a push-back type of comment.

Eh lol, even if suicide isnt allowed, just the way he says it, even if he tries to troll, is still an odd way of going about it.

[MattZed]

Patronising as well? Ha, I may like you yet.

I didn't vote him the moment he voted me, so OMGUS does not apply here. Read the post and try again. You might even get a participation medal :)
"I waited a whole 30 minutes before voting someone, so it's clearly not an OMGUS anymore!"

Sounds more to me like you were just hoping it was a random vote he would take off, but once he started seriously scumhunting you, you got defensive.

[Calix]

Now he's just trolling.

Is there a mute button?

Feel free to contribute something useful other than your dumbass "citizen not citizen" filler, then I might take your whining a bit more seriously.

On the plus side, you didn't run off crying straight away. There is hope for you yet, greenie.

[Firebringer]

Ugh, Matt is town this game guys.
He is just stubborn Matt.

Typical.

[Mikecall]

You think the people going at each other are all scum...?

Well, its a possibility, considering that if you and spruance are going at each other, how do we know one of you aint Lady Death, or the mafia?

But then again, even when the widower is still here, day 1 is the only day that the tailor wont be able to shroud other people with roles that were not even possible to come by before.

[MattZed]

I aint even sure what to say, you out right hating people even when their playstyle sounds out right scum, a nice portrayal of being a neutral overall.

Ohey, now you're taking deathworld's shtick that Calix is a neutral. At least you're copying someone else's opinions.


Fair enough, but overall, Sprunance + Calix, are ringing alarm bells for being scum overall, deathworlds is leaning scum in my eyes also.
Oh yes, the three people with votes on them are your top suspects. And of course they're just Calix's top suspects, with Calix thrown in to make it look like you can sheep deathworlds, too.

Please provide an original opinion, not the safe ones everyone else has been providing.

[Calix]

"I waited a whole 30 minutes before voting someone, so it's clearly not an OMGUS anymore!"

Sounds more to me like you were just hoping it was a random vote he would take off, but once he started seriously scumhunting you, you got defensive.

Your real life issues really have taken a toll on your commitment to the game. You call nitpicking at a word scumhunting?

I gave reasoning which you have sidelined and act like I have no reason for voting him at all. Why would I bother with him - of all people - to lynch unless I thought he was scum?

If I wanted a mislynch, I'd pick someone a little more high-ranking, thanks. You know how to wound me <3

[DarknessB]

Eh lol, even if suicide isnt allowed, just the way he says it, even if he tries to troll, is still an odd way of going about it.

To go meta for a second, my read is that Calix is playing with a lot of angry energy tonight -- whether or not that makes her scum is an open question. I didn't like the Lady Death post, but at least we're getting enough posts from her that we can continue to analyze.

[DarknessB]

Ugh, Matt is town this game guys.
He is just stubborn Matt.

Typical.

Isn't typical Matt trying to start lynch trains and pressuring more with votes? That was my point about Matt being "lumpy" and not his usual self this game. Seems a lot more inclined to defend players randomly (like Spurance) than get into the muck.

[Calix]

Ohey, now you're taking deathworld's shtick that Calix is a neutral. At least you're copying someone else's opinions.


Oh yes, the three people with votes on them are your top suspects. And of course they're just Calix's top suspects, with Calix thrown in to make it look like you can sheep deathworlds, too.

Please provide an original opinion, not the safe ones everyone else has been providing.

Wait, he comes back with a halfway reasonable post.

I take it back; he's somewhat normal.

[MattZed]

Your real life issues really have taken a toll on your commitment to the game. You call nitpicking at a word scumhunting?

I gave reasoning which you have sidelined and act like I have no reason for voting him at all. Why would I bother with him - of all people - to lynch unless I thought he was scum?

If I wanted a mislynch, I'd pick someone a little more high-ranking, thanks. You know how to wound me <3
"Guys, deathworlds is trying too hard to lynch me. How could he? Don't you remember that pro-town move I made where I called myself mafia? He's clearly scum for being able to have an opinion on me."

[Spruance]

If you want my serious opinion Calix isn't scum. Neither am I. That's what makes this so frustrating. If you want my scum read, it's secondpassing for voting me as a "placeholder" and contributing nothing else. Most likely he was hoping for a train to start and to avoid suspicion.

secondpassing

If you guys want to rage train me for changing my view then so be it. Not even Calix would be this aggressive as scum.

[Firebringer]

Isn't typical Matt trying to start lynch trains and pressuring more with votes? That was my point about Matt being "lumpy" and not his usual self this game. Seems a lot more inclined to defend players randomly (like Spurance) than get into the muck.

He is going into who he thinks is scum, he is wrong, but he is tunneling.
Matt switches when he thinks he is wrong.

I don't think this is atypical.

[DarknessB]

If you want my serious opinion Calix isn't scum. Neither am I. That's what makes this so frustrating. If you want my scum read, it's secondpassing for voting me as a "placeholder" and contributing nothing else. Most likely he was hoping for a train to start and to avoid suspicion.

secondpassing

If you guys want to rage train me for changing my view then so be it. Not even Calix would be this aggressive as scum.

It encourages me that you brought this up. I don't like the vote and run tactic from secondpassing at all either, and have found that's usually a decent indicator of scum.

[Calix]

"Guys, deathworlds is trying too hard to lynch me. How could he? Don't you remember that pro-town move I made where I called myself mafia? He's clearly scum for being able to have an opinion on me."

He mentioned my first post once, so I don't know why you act like he cares about that. His main argument is "Calix used the word 'solo' in a game where town don't know their allies. Clearly they are the Neutral Killer"

Calling myself mafia is pro-town, no matter what. It grabs people's attention and gets reactions, regardless of what I am.

[MattZed]

Wait, he comes back with a halfway reasonable post.

I take it back; he's somewhat normal.
"Matt's tunneling me just as hard as deathworlds is, but I'm going to play a cheeky insult game and publicly read him as town in hopes that he withdraws his vote."

[Firebringer]

Matt, man. I think yo uare town.

Want to tlak about reads besides Calix for a moment?
I think our energy can be best used elsewhere in figuring out the other players.

I think Calix is town, and we are in disagreement, but I would like to hear your thoughts on other players like Deathworlds right now.

[Calix]

"Matt's tunneling me just as hard as deathworlds is, but I'm going to play a cheeky insult game and publicly read him as town in hopes that he withdraws his vote."

"tunneling"

I like how you think this is a good strategy.

Normal =/= Town

I meant that you're not retarded/ I might consider taking you seriously.

[deathworlds]

Reread the chat and you'll see my comment about wanting to lynch both of you.

Why don't you back off for a minute and give your thoughts on the bigger picture? Who's town to you?

MattZed
Shifty
Mikecall
Spruance
DarknessB
GameFreak
and Myself

[Calix]

Vote Count 2.0

Before anyone can ask why, I do this for my own reference. I like wagonomics and this site doesn't have a great vote history system at the moment.

deathworlds (2 [L-5]):
Calix, Firebringer
Calix (2 [L-5]):
MattZed, deathworlds
Spruance (2 [L-5]):
secondpassing, Mikecall
secondpassing (1 [L-6]):
Spruance

Friendly reminder to not spread out the votes much more than this. We need to coordinate a lynch on scum and having six potential suspects like in Cold War is not going to help with that.

[DarknessB]

MattZed
Shifty
Mikecall
Spruance
DarknessB
GameFreak
and Myself

Has GameFreak even posted yet?

[Calix]

MattZed
Shifty
Mikecall
Spruance
DarknessB
GameFreak
and Myself

I am 99% sure that GameFreak has not even posted, so your town read ???

Shifty hasn't posted anything useful ???

Your reads in general ?????

[Mikecall]

How did Calix help the town in any way?

Discussion + Reaction Testing + Scum hunting <--- Mattzed Possibly thinking I took more opinions again

Even though Calix meta has always been trying to become pro town as far as picking those individual pieces in a post which can benefit them being scum.

Your claim of citizen was a bit of a weird way of claiming, from meta, Citizens try to gain the attention from others and make themselves be the meatshields of the town, (I know, another persons opinion) but outright claiming citizen right away seems far more of a coincidence really, thats why I see you as a potential scum.