S-FM 170: Happy Fluffy Times

[RLVG]

S-FM 169 : Happy Fluffy Times

--> Click here for the setup. <-- (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/32567-S-FM-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=502347&viewfull=1#post502347)

Story :
Sugar Town, that's what the place is called, where you will always share dreams and happiness together.

As the clock hit twelve at night, Mr. Grand Arson stood up from his throne to speak to his little people.
"Let there be a fire of hope spark in your hearts, never let the spirits fade. Let there be Christmas."
Then Mr. Grand Arson sat on the throne again, litting up his gasoline rod before smoking from it.

This month, everyone shared the spirit of christmas. Help the women cross the road, donate to charity, repair the roof of your neighbours and most importantly the shared happiness of christmas magic.

Unfortunately, Grim Reaper's Foundation and De'Luminati have both sendt out a group to sabotage christmas!
Oh noes! Little did the Sugar Town know of the drama that were to happen...

That's when this tale started twelve'o'clock during the day when all the people gathered to talk of rumors.

Setup :

Faction 1

Truly Hidden
Hidden
Hidden


Faction 2

Truly Hidden
Hidden
Hidden


Faction 3

Truly Hidden
Truly Hidden
Truly Hidden
Hidden
Hidden
Hidden
Hidden




Day 1

Day & Night Shortcut :
- Day 1 (This post)
- Night 1 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-169-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=543089&viewfull=1#post543089)
- Day 2 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-169-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=543222&viewfull=1#post543222)
- Day 2 : Replacement! (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-169-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=543901&viewfull=1#post543901)
- Night 2 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-169-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=544219&viewfull=1#post544219)
- Day 3 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-169-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=544345&viewfull=1#post544345)
- Night 3 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-169-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=544679&viewfull=1#post544679)
- Day 4 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-169-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=544922&viewfull=1#post544922)
- Day 4 Shitposting (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-169-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=545096&viewfull=1#post545096)
- Night 4 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-169-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=545123&viewfull=1#post545123)
- Day 5 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-169-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=545227&viewfull=1#post545227)
- Night 5 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-169-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=545512&viewfull=1#post545512)
- Day 6 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-169-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=546842&viewfull=1#post546842)
- Night 6 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-170-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=547774&viewfull=1#post547774)
- Day 7 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-170-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=548052&viewfull=1#post548052)
- Night 7 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-170-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=548390&viewfull=1#post548390)
- Day 8 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-170-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=549652&viewfull=1#post549652)
- Epilogue (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34078-S-FM-170-Happy-Fluffy-Times?p=550474&viewfull=1#post550474)



Players :
- secondpassing
- Shifty
- SuperJack
- Thornholt
- Numbertwo
- Calix
- Suntax - powerofdeath
- Mikecall
- Funce
- Zekrom2802
- GameFreak
- Toadette
- ika




This day ends in 48 hours. Click Me to view the time converter in WolframAlpha. (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Norway+18%3A00+17th+December)



Required amount of votes required to lynch :

The one with most votes at the end of day are lynched, with minimum of 2 votes required. If no one have 2 or more votes, then there won't be a lynch.
There's no Lynch Hammer, but the host may listen to the plead of cutting the day short by 24 hours. (No less, no more)
To plead to cutting the day short, type -SKIP. Majority of players (51%, half with decimal rounded up [13/2=6.5=7), or half without decimal +1 [12/2=6=7])
If you no longer want to skip the day, then you may also do -UNSKIP


20

[GameFreak]

Hey guys, we have a long day ahead it seems.

[Calix]

History repeats itself.

Round 2 of Mikecall vs Calix and he's online, let's go!

Mikecall

TO EVERYONE: What role and Faction would you want to be and why?

Game, what do you make of this setup?

[Mikecall]

Here we go, Calix wants another bite off against me,

Calix

For your question Calix, third faction is the most deemed one I would choose. Just because at the moment, they have the majority of votes which would deemed good for a good day of pressure.

[Mikecall]

Hey guys, we have a long day ahead it seems.

A very long time Game, but it's good to know our surroundings.

[GameFreak]

Hmm its been 3 years since i've played a forum mafia, I have to say the games have developed alot since then. I was very confused with the hidden and truly hidden setup at first but i understand it now. And i think its a very cool mechanic. I like this setup aswell and we could make it very interesting.

Also i wish i was an F2 doctor. They will have to do alot of deciding at night haha.

[Calix]

Here we go, Calix wants another bite off against me,

Calix

For your question Calix, third faction is the most deemed one I would choose. Just because at the moment, they have the majority of votes which would deemed good for a good day of pressure.

Yet again, you start off with OMGUS. Good job. At least your autocorrect isn't screwing you over this time ;)

Technically speaking, the Truly Hidden would act like Faction Three players for all intents and purposes.

What role would you prefer?

[Mikecall]

So it seems this is just like a game of triad vs Mafia vs town.

[Calix]

So it seems this is just like a game of triad vs Mafia vs town.

In my opinion, Faction 1 are the mafia (2 of them know that they're that faction), Faction 2 are the Neutral Killing (immune at night, have the killing role) and Faction 3 are town.

I suppose we will see what the factions are called after someone is lynched.

[Mikecall]

Yet again, you start off with OMGUS. Good job. At least your autocorrect isn't screwing you over this time ;)

Technically speaking, the Truly Hidden would act like Faction Three players for all intents and purposes.

What role would you prefer?

The good old investigator would be my ideal choice. Love those types of roles.

[SuperJack]

I have to admit. I have a power role.

[Mikecall]

In my opinion, Faction 1 are the mafia (2 of them know that they're that faction), Faction 2 are the Neutral Killing (immune at night, have the killing role) and Faction 3 are town.

I suppose we will see what the factions are called after someone is lynched.

Could be a good choice, but I am here for some good fashioned pressuring, but the questions are a nice choice though for this current part of the day.

[SuperJack]

I AM NOT A CITIZEN WHAT THE FUCK

[Mikecall]

I AM NOT A CITIZEN WHAT THE FUCK

Woah man. Wait what, a power role being a citizen, the super league citizen is back in action.

[Calix]

The good old investigator would be my ideal choice. Love those types of roles.

It seems we are in agreement on something :o

I would want to be a Hidden Faction 1 Detective. I like the idea of knowing information and concealing it until the target that I have intel on slips up.

@Mikecall's last post, it's a complex setup so I figured that I would start off the day with that question to see how other players had understood it.

[GameFreak]

I have to admit. I have a power role.


Power of blue sparkles ?

[RLVG]

Just looking for feedback, is the WolframAlpha link accurate?

Also, don't be afraid to publicly ask questions to the host by using Green.

[Calix]

I AM NOT A CITIZEN WHAT THE FUCK

Did you look at the Faction 1/ 3 Arsonist? That's basically an Energetic Citizen/ Doctor mashup.

[Mikecall]

It seems we are in agreement on something :o

I would want to be a Hidden Faction 1 Detective. I like the idea of knowing information and concealing it until the target that I have intel on slips up.

@Mikecall's last post, it's a complex setup so I figured that I would start off the day with that question to see how other players had understood it.

It's a good motive question really, would give a very good positive look at what others would want to be.
The questions I might ask later might be important depending on how people would look at it.

[Calix]

Just looking for feedback, is the WolframAlpha link accurate?

Also, don't be afraid to publicly ask questions to the host by using Green.

The timer's working fine as far as I can tell.

R2V2, will you marry me? <3

[Mikecall]

Just looking for feedback, is the WolframAlpha link accurate?

Also, don't be afraid to publicly ask questions to the host by using Green.

Dont worry RLVG, the questions will be pouring in later :)

[GameFreak]

I guess i do still have some questions about the setup

Is there any night chat for a faction ?

The special mechanics state: Faction Bonuses for Faction 2 & 3 will be hidden.
What do you mean by this?

[RLVG]

R2V2, will you marry me? <3

Bleep bleep, R2-V2 responding to question :
Not yet, at least one date.

[Suntax]

i would want to be part faction 1 because there are 2 of the 3 members are informed of being in F1 because it would be eaiser coordination plus there wont be 3 citizens or 2 vigilantes it would be very clean to run with

[RLVG]

Is there any night chat for a faction ?

The special mechanics state: Faction Bonuses for Faction 2 & 3 will be hidden.
What do you mean by this?

1. There's no Factional Night Chat.

2. The players are not informed of their bonuses. For example, a Faction 2 player will not know they are immune to attacking (unless they figure out they're Faction 2).

[Calix]

Okay, I have a few legit questions which I'll throw out there for clarification.

Could you explain how one of the Faction 2 Bus Driver's kills would work with an example? I'm finding it a bit hard to follow.

If a Faction 2 Arsonist douses Player A and a Faction 3 Arsonist ignites, would it remove the dousing from Player A or can Arsonists only ignite their own targets? I'm assuming the former.

[Calix]

On the upside, we can state that intentional bussing isn't an option with this setup.

Mikecall, you can't claim that you're being bussed as a defense this time ;D

[Zekrom2802]

TO EVERYONE: What role and Faction would you want to be and why?


I'd like to be in Faction III for the same reason as Mikecall. My favorite role is probably Arsonist, because I'm basically a citizen that can visit. I like citizens.


Just looking for feedback, is the WolframAlpha link accurate?


Yeah it is, but we are in the same time-zone so my statement probably doesn't matter.

[Mikecall]

But here is a nice question that I am puzzled with.

How would faction 3 Investigator work? Seems a bit weird with the target being unable to be healed that specific night.
Also for it, would it affect the target or the initial person?

[Mikecall]

On the upside, we can state that intentional bussing isn't an option with this setup.

Mikecall, you can't claim that you're being bussed as a defense this time ;D

;), that is true, got to love that coincidence though.

[Calix]

I'd like to be in Faction III for the same reason as Mikecall. My favorite role is probably Arsonist, because I'm basically a citizen that can visit. I like citizens.



Yeah it is, but we are in the same time-zone so my statement probably doesn't matter.

In case you are low-key claiming Arsonist, I'm going to say this. If you read in the chat that someone else has been doused, you can visit them and undouse. OoO states that douses go before ignitions. If there's a Faction 2 Arsonist as the killing role, we basically neuter the KPN.


;), that is true, got to love that coincidence though.

Does it count as Out-of-Game communication if a) we're both dead and b) I ask who your target was? I am curious.

[Mikecall]

Does it count as Out-of-Game communication if a) we're both dead and b) I ask who your target was? I am curious.[/QUOTE]

Yes I think it does count as out of game communication since we where talking about another game mode which could alter it.

[Mikecall]

You just got to wait till the very end, maybe then, you would love to see that awesome suprise.

[RLVG]

Could you explain how one of the Faction 2 Bus Driver's kills would work with an example?

If a Faction 2 Arsonist douses Player A and a Faction 3 Arsonist ignites, would it remove the dousing from Player A or can Arsonists only ignite their own targets? I'm assuming the former.

1. F2 Bus Driver targets (A) and (B), both will be switched (normal), but then if one (A) targets the other (B) then (A) will be attacked - this can happen both ways.
While it sounds weird and impractical / unlikely, it happened quite a lot in randomized simulations of the setup.

2. Damn, I did not specify the Arsonist. The Arsonist can only ignite their own targets, those who they themselves have doused personally.



How would faction 3 Investigator work? Seems a bit weird with the target being unable to be healed that specific night.
Also for it, would it affect the target or the initial person?


Faction 3 Investigators are a dual-edged blade, or a blessing, depending on the situation.
It would only affect the Investigator's target. INV targets BOB, BOB can no longer be healed.


Edit : Fixed a few stuff.

[Calix]

Does it count as Out-of-Game communication if a) we're both dead and b) I ask who your target was? I am curious.

Yes I think it does count as out of game communication since we where talking about another game mode which could alter it.[/QUOTE]

Alright then. If I was your target, then I will laugh at the irony.

ANYWAY, you seem to be coherent and vaguely pro-town this time so I'll peg you as non-suspicious for now.

unvote

[GameFreak]

What amazes me about this setup is that your role matters but moreso what faction you belong to. Killers on F3 for example.

[Toadette]

Guess this game started. Guess I should read the setup.

[Calix]

1. F2 Bus Driver targets (A) and (B), both will be switched (normal), but then if one (A) targets the other (B) then (A) will be attacked - this can happen both ways.
While it sounds weird and impractical / unlikely, it happened quite a lot in randomized simulations of the setup.

2. Damn, I did not specify the Arsonist. The Arsonist can only ignite their own targets, those who they themselves have doused personally.



Faction 3 Investigators are a dual-edged blade, or a blessing, depending on the situation.
It would only affect the Investigator's target. INV targets BOB, BOB can no longer be healed.


Edit : Fixed a few stuff.

1. Sounds quite similar to the Strategist role in the discontinued FM.

2. Well fuck. I guess Arsonist really is an easier-to-confirm Citizen then. This is the part where this is actually just a standard role list and 'Citizen' has been replaced with 'Arsonist'.

[Mikecall]

Yes I think it does count as out of game communication since we where talking about another game mode which could alter it.
Alright then. If I was your target, then I will laugh at the irony.
ANYWAY, you seem to be coherent and vaguely pro-town this time so I'll peg you as non-suspicious for now.
unvote

You also seem quite a pro town also for the moment.



But a question to all, on top of what Calix said about what role you would take with faction, who would you target with your selected role?

[Suntax]

Guess this game started. Guess I should read the setup.

dont worry i just did the same thing

[RLVG]

Does it count as Out-of-Game communication if a) we're both dead and b) I ask who your target was? I am curious.

While this wasn't green, I'll answer this :

Any discussion of ongoing games outside of the game thread or its respective host approved third-party-chats is forbidden.
A deadchat provided by the host of said game you died in is an approved third party chat.

And yes, there's a deadchat here! If you die, you can discuss the game inside it and only the dead will access it.

[Mikecall]

What amazes me about this setup is that your role matters but moreso what faction you belong to. Killers on F3 for example.

From looking through the setup, I think that each faction will have a contribution of roles that link together, so for example, if Town was F3, then there would be a mixture of both town detective roles whilst if F2 was the Neutral Bad, they would be dedicated to killing + manipulation roles and so on.

[Mikecall]

While this wasn't green, I'll answer this :

Any discussion of ongoing games outside of the game thread or its respective host approved third-party-chats is forbidden.
A deadchat provided by the host of said game you died in is an approved third party chat.

And yes, there's a deadchat here! If you die, you can discuss the game inside it and only the dead will access it.

Seems legit, had an error before when I was trying to answer Calix question before if it would.

[Calix]

What amazes me about this setup is that your role matters but moreso what faction you belong to. Killers on F3 for example.

Yeah, Faction 3 Serial Killers are basically Vigilantes. Maybe the Faction 3 restrictions will stop the Serial Killers attacking for now. That can only be good if the Serial Killer is actually say, Faction 2 and isn't aware of the fact.


You also seem quite a pro town also for the moment.



But a question to all, on top of what Calix said about what role you would take with faction, who would you target with your selected role?

As a Faction 1 Detective, I'd probably visit either the most pro-town or the most annoying player today. Too bad I can't self-target ;)

@RLVG, I can never tell when games have a deadchat and when they don't, aha. I wasn't expecting one for Toadette's finished game.

[Suntax]

From looking through the setup, I think that each faction will have a contribution of roles that link together, so for example, if Town was F3, then there would be a mixture of both town detective roles whilst if F2 was the Neutral Bad, they would be dedicated to killing + manipulation roles and so on.

i see your reasoning but i feel RLVG will not be that predictable but always theirs possibility

[Mikecall]

Yeah, Faction 3 Serial Killers are basically Vigilantes. Maybe the Faction 3 restrictions will stop the Serial Killers attacking for now. That can only be good if the Serial Killer is actually say, Faction 2 and isn't aware of the fact.



As a Faction 1 Detective, I'd probably visit either the most pro-town or the most annoying player today. Too bad I can't self-target ;)

@RLVG, I can never tell when games have a deadchat and when they don't, aha. I wasn't expecting one for Toadette's finished game.

Nobody knows which would have deadchats, you would just need to pick out who has the chats and who doesnt.
To answer my own question, I would investigate someone who would be the most interesting to view. Someone like Zekrom would be an interesting person to visit to see.

[Mikecall]

i see your reasoning but i feel RLVG will not be that predictable but always theirs possibility

True, however, its good to consider the different possibilities on each of the different outcomes. Since we could have the infamous cult / mason.

[Calix]

Nobody knows which would have deadchats, you would just need to pick out who has the chats and who doesnt.
To answer my own question, I would investigate someone who would be the most interesting to view. Someone like Zekrom would be an interesting person to visit to see.

Do you think it would be a good idea for us to claim who our actual targets might be and make a chart for that? This is a half-formed thing of a plan at the present, but I see several benefits to this:

A. It confirms Arsonist, Roleblocker, Serial Killer and Witch.

B. Any roles that can't target can say so now, so they can self-confirm to an extent.

C. This would give us more insight into the makeup of the role list.

D. I don't think it would endanger anyone because nobody knows what faction anyone else is, so something like an Investigator claim would be less likely to get you killed compared to a usual game.

There is the downside of the Faction 1 scum having information to work with and possibly several other factors that I haven't considered, but I feel that we need to start somewhere.

Discuss.

[Mikecall]

Do you think it would be a good idea for us to claim who our actual targets might be and make a chart for that? This is a half-formed thing of a plan at the present, but I see several benefits to this:

A. It confirms Arsonist, Roleblocker, Serial Killer and Witch.

B. Any roles that can't target can say so now, so they can self-confirm to an extent.

C. This would give us more insight into the makeup of the role list.

D. I don't think it would endanger anyone because nobody knows what faction anyone else is, so something like an Investigator claim would be less likely to get you killed compared to a usual game.

There is the downside of the Faction 1 scum having information to work with and possibly several other factors that I haven't considered, but I feel that we need to start somewhere.

Discuss.

I feel like if we actually claimed our actual targets, it would actually be a way of allowing the other factions to take advantage of us, considering if the people from F1 and F2 have a witch and other killing roles to confirm it. But the idea behind it was that it would allow us to base our ideas on who we would want to target with the role that we would love to have.

But its a good starting point for getting some conversation going from the other candidates.

[GameFreak]

Do you think it would be a good idea for us to claim who our actual targets might be and make a chart for that? This is a half-formed thing of a plan at the present, but I see several benefits to this:
.

That is an interesting preposition, ofcourse now is a little bit early but i'll give some thought to it, and post it later.

What i do want to say is that this game will be confusing for me. I have never played with any of you and you guys will probably know each other. But i consider myself lucky that i can check the SFM that just ended to get to know you all haha :D.

I was also sad to see the FM ended so soon and the inactivity that happened. So i'm glad RL has a rule against that and i hope he does what is necesarry.
I remember how much fun i had following FMVII and the last FM felt so bad.

I will say i am a student and yes exams are coming, so this FM is a curse and a blessing for me. But i will be on mostly near the end of the day.

[Suntax]

wait so calix is a detective and mike is what now
so should all TPR claim at this moment in time

[Mikecall]

That is an interesting preposition, ofcourse now is a little bit early but i'll give some thought to it, and post it later.

What i do want to say is that this game will be confusing for me. I have never played with any of you and you guys will probably know each other. But i consider myself lucky that i can check the SFM that just ended to get to know you all haha :D.

I was also sad to see the FM ended so soon and the inactivity that happened. So i'm glad RL has a rule against that and i hope he does what is necesarry.
I remember how much fun i had following FMVII and the last FM felt so bad.

I will say i am a student and yes exams are coming, so this FM is a curse and a blessing for me. But i will be on mostly near the end of the day.

lol, at least its going to be nice to see what type of gameplay you might try.

[Calix]

I feel like if we actually claimed our actual targets, it would actually be a way of allowing the other factions to take advantage of us, considering if the people from F1 and F2 have a witch and other killing roles to confirm it. But the idea behind it was that it would allow us to base our ideas on who we would want to target with the role that we would love to have.

But its a good starting point for getting some conversation going from the other candidates.

Only two players are aware of their exact Faction. At most, there can be four candidates that realise that they are not part of Faction 3 and that assumes that both Faction 2 players were told that they are not Faction 3.

If everyone else is consistent with their plans, then finding the liars will be a piece of cake

I am not suggesting that people post their night actions (not roles) at this moment in time - we haven't even had everyone post yet.

@Suntax, I said that Detective would be the role I would want to have. Mikecall stated that he wanted to be Investigator. We didn't hardclaim as those roles, however.

[Calix]

wait so calix is a detective and mike is what now
so should all TPR claim at this moment in time

I feel that the TPRs that are easy to confirm should reveal first if we do this. I just want night targets at the moment. I'll give it 24 hours before I start asking everyone for them.

[Suntax]

oh ok, also i know my faction which is a good thing
oh ok probably the best idea to leave it a while before getting tpr roles off everyone

[Calix]

oh ok, also i know my faction which is a good thing
oh ok probably the best idea to leave it a while before getting tpr roles off everyone

Say what?

POTENTIAL SCUM SLIP: Only Faction 1 players know their faction on Day 1.

Suntax

[Suntax]

lol no i used the bonuses and roles to figure out what i am plus im not faction 1

[Calix]

lol no i used the bonuses and roles to figure out what i am plus im not faction 1

I have looked at the setup and I found this.

Explain, please. If you're not Faction 1, then how would you know about your bonuses without submitting a night action or/ and receiving any feedback?


S-FM Happy Fluffy Times



Faction Bonuses for Faction 2 & 3 will be hidden.



Faction 1 : Two "Hidden" will receive knowledge of being in Faction 1.
Faction 2 : Immune to attacking.
Faction 3 : Nothing.

[Suntax]

i used the fact that im a hidden role not a truly hidden tell me what im not and i have not been told my bonus so it allowed me to figure out what faction i am.

[Calix]

i used the fact that im a hidden role not a truly hidden tell me what im not and i have not been told my bonus so it allowed me to figure out what faction i am.

Claims he does not have knowledge of the bonus.


lol no i used the bonuses and roles to figure out what i am plus im not faction 1

Claims to have used his knowledge of the bonus to figure out his faction. The only faction that knows about their bonus is Faction 1.

Consistency at its finest.

It's even better because you just claimed Hidden. Faction 1's hidden bonus is...knowing about their faction.

[Suntax]

im faction 3 ffs

it says on my rolecard that im not faction 2 and i have not been sent my bonus, which faction one gets to know
BOOM BITCH

[GameFreak]

Claims he does not have knowledge of the bonus.



Claims to have used his knowledge of the bonus to figure out his faction. The only faction that knows about their bonus is Faction 1.

Consistency at its finest.

It's even better because you just claimed Hidden. Faction 1's hidden bonus is...knowing about their faction.

I'm also scratching my head over this, i dont see a jester in the rolecards ;) Lets try and see what we can come up with.

[Calix]

im faction 3 ffs

it says on my rolecard that im not faction 2 and i have not been sent my bonus, which faction one gets to know
BOOM BITCH

Obligatory note about the change in Suntax's tone.

Because a Faction 1 player is going to openly admit that they were sent their bonus.

Considering the rest of the chat, I'm fine with my vote staying where it is.

[GameFreak]

im faction 3 ffs

it says on my rolecard that im not faction 2 and i have not been sent my bonus, which faction one gets to know
BOOM BITCH

Damn , I've found Sherlock

[Calix]

Obligatory note about the change in Suntax's tone.

Because a Faction 1 player is going to openly admit that they were sent their bonus.

Considering the rest of the chat, I'm fine with my vote staying where it is.

Oh wait, I rescind that statement ;o

I sense a good lead for further pressuring.

@Game. Damn, someone's sassy!

[Suntax]

See comment above new/old guy

@calix that defense is perfect also no change in tone just proud of my sublime reasoning for being in faction 3

[Calix]

See comment above new/old guy

@calix that defense is perfect also no change in tone just proud of my sublime reasoning for being in faction 3

How is it a 'perfect' defense? It's impossible to verify until tomorrow and even then, that's not a guarantee.

Role please. You said you were in favour of role reveals so let's start with you, Faction 1 or 3 scum-town.

[Suntax]

faction 3 investigator so game yes im sherlock

[GameFreak]

I find this hilarious already. I dont think he's that scummy or stupid to confess D1.

Now what happened to the people who went to read the setup.

[Suntax]

I find this hilarious already. I dont think he's that scummy or stupid to confess D1.

Now what happened to the people who went to read the setup.

they died never to be seen again

[GameFreak]

faction 3 investigator so game yes im sherlock

Behold my intellect newbies.

[Calix]

faction 3 investigator so game yes im sherlock

Well this is going to be a bitch to verify. Unless there's a Faction 3 Roleblocker who would roleblock the person Suntax claims to target, and then we have the target claim their feedback tomorrow, that is.

And that plan of mine has a lot of holes in it.




Roles :

Investigator :

Target someone at night to check their exact role.
Faction 1 : Immune to Roleblocking.
Faction 2 : Target is framed as scum (role & visit), but the F2 Investigator will see the normal feedback.
Faction 3 : Target can't be healed that night.

[GameFreak]

Now we wait for F3 to be Neutral evil.

[Mikecall]

Now we wait for F3 to be Neutral evil.

Or it could have reverse pyschology, F3 being a massive cult group, and F1-2 are Masons and Town wanting to purge them.

[Calix]

Or it could have reverse pyschology, F3 being a massive cult group, and F1-2 are Masons and Town wanting to purge them.

Does it matter if the majority faction would be considered 'evil'? They shouldn't see it that way.

That's the problem with quite a few scum players. They operate under the assumption that they are 'evil' as opposed to thinking that they are 'good' and that they should work hard to see their wincon fulfilled and this shows via their tells.

You're supposed to think that you're on the correct side and that your wincon should be achieved. Being wishy-washy is useless.

[Toadette]

....is this even mafia? This seems like a puzzle game

[GameFreak]

....is this even mafia? This seems like a puzzle game

You signed up for it. Just do ur night actions and ur fine.

[Toadette]

Like I am legit confused with this setup and can't get my head around what my strategy should be O.o

[Toadette]

You signed up for it. Just do ur night actions and ur fine.

Yes I did, thank you for the snarky comment.

[GameFreak]

Yes I did, thank you for the snarky comment.

I mean no harm, but come on. You have been reading the setup for an hour now, you must have something more to say than 2 posts about your confusing.

Maybe answer Calix' question, what faction and role would you love to be and why.

[Calix]

....is this even mafia? This seems like a puzzle game

FLUFF: Hey guise, I've just solved the mystery of the CIRCLE game. Clearly this is an admission from Our Glorious Host herself that she used this setup in the CIRCLE ;) It ends when one team has met their wincons. Spread the word!

I'm anticipating that the first night kills - if we have any - will be random. I doubt that many people will attack tonight due to fear of hitting a team-mate. It would actually be more detrimental to scum to attack now, I think.

Toadette, we're clearly supposed to use our night actions in a strategic fashion to find and eliminate the scum. The day chat is mostly going to be speculation on the reasoning/ possible factions behind the action and would prove useful when trying to anticipate where players will move to.

Or something like that. It is R2V2, after all. There's going to be a lot of speculation needed.

[Funce]

*poof*
Hello Everyone. I'm here.

Chosen faction and role, I want to be a F2 Neighbour, because they're doubly immune to attacks.
My faction hint is useless. That is all.

[Calix]

*poof*
Hello Everyone. I'm here.

Chosen faction and role, I want to be a F2 Neighbour, because they're doubly immune to attacks.
My faction hint is useless. That is all.

Faction 1/ 3 Witch.

You're welcome for this 100% serious guess 8-)

[Funce]

Faction 1/ 3 Witch.

You're welcome for this 100% serious guess 8-)

Wha..... What? But... How?
I mean, PREPOSTEROUS How could you think such a thing.

[Funce]

Why is it Calix that whenever we post it turns into some form of trolling or shitposting.

[Toadette]

I mean no harm, but come on. You have been reading the setup for an hour now, you must have something more to say than 2 posts about your confusing.

Maybe answer Calix' question, what faction and role would you love to be and why.

Actually, Mr. Super Douche, I work for a living so I can't spend every waking moment reading this thing.

[Toadette]

FLUFF: Hey guise, I've just solved the mystery of the CIRCLE game. Clearly this is an admission from Our Glorious Host herself that she used this setup in the CIRCLE ;) It ends when one team has met their wincons. Spread the word!

I'm anticipating that the first night kills - if we have any - will be random. I doubt that many people will attack tonight due to fear of hitting a team-mate. It would actually be more detrimental to scum to attack now, I think.

Toadette, we're clearly supposed to use our night actions in a strategic fashion to find and eliminate the scum. The day chat is mostly going to be speculation on the reasoning/ possible factions behind the action and would prove useful when trying to anticipate where players will move to.

Or something like that. It is R2V2, after all. There's going to be a lot of speculation needed.

Thanks for being helpful, unlike the other guy.

[SuperJack]

I have 0 concentration today so I'm just going to pretend I'm talking to people and purposely miss-read what they say.

[Funce]

I have 0 concentration today so I'm just going to pretend I'm talking to people and purposely miss-read what they say.

Here's your first test.

I am NOT Faction 1.

[Funce]

Here's your first test.

I am NOT Faction 1.

(This was sarcasm and may or may not be my faction hint)

[SuperJack]

I'm also scratching my head over this, i dont see a jester in the rolecards ;) Lets try and see what we can come up with.

Honestly. What I'm going to recommend is some anti-dandruff shampoo and conditioner with a hint of coffee. Studies show that if you throw air at puddings then it creates a left-repulsing controlled spin on the rafters of the recension fandorika.

[SuperJack]

Here's your first test.

I am NOT Faction 1.

I tend to use it when I walk. Although its mostly just for style.

[Calix]

Why is it Calix that whenever we post it turns into some form of trolling or shitposting.

Excuse you, my posts are 314% serious at all times. I just add a sprinkling of shitposting to spice my totally legit analysis and speculation up a bit.

But seriously, if you said 'my faction hint is useless' then you are most likely not Faction 2.

Look at the role cards. Most of them mesh Faction 1/3's abilities together. This would explain why your faction hint was 'useless' at determining your true alignment, if you were told that you are not Faction 2.

That narrows down your potential role as well to one of the following: Detective, Roleblocker, Bus Driver, Arsonist, Witch.

[GameFreak]

Actually, Mr. Super Douche, I work for a living so I can't spend every waking moment reading this thing.


My apoligies, i didn't realise you had to read so hastily that you can't answer questions. Read again when you aren't working.

[GameFreak]

But seriously, if you said 'my faction hint is useless' then you are most likely not Faction 2.

Look at the role cards. Most of them mesh Faction 1/3's abilities together. This would explain why your faction hint was 'useless' at determining your true alignment, if you were told that you are not Faction 2.

That narrows down your potential role as well to one of the following: Detective, Roleblocker, Bus Driver, Arsonist, Witch.

I dont think this was shitposted so i don't follow your conclusion

[Calix]

I dont think this was shitposted so i don't follow your conclusion

What about it confuses you? I'm speculating as to Funce's soft-claim about their role/ alignment based on one post.

I'm not sure how I can clarify myself for you.

[GameFreak]

What about it confuses you? I'm speculating as to Funce's soft-claim about their role/ alignment based on one post.

I'm not sure how I can clarify myself for you.

No i read over it too quickly , But i think he can still be F2

[Calix]

No i read over it too quickly , But i think he can still be F2

It's a possibility.

From the players you've seen so far, which would you peg as Factions 1/ 2/ 3 [as we are waiting on a few, this doesn't have to match up with the rolelist]? A brief description as to why you feel this way would be good as well.

[GameFreak]

It's a possibility.

From the players you've seen so far, which would you peg as Factions 1/ 2/ 3 [as we are waiting on a few, this doesn't have to match up with the rolelist]? A brief description as to why you feel this way would be good as well.

Thats early but i'll work on it , it would be neat if you did the same

[Calix]

It's a possibility.

From the players you've seen so far, which would you peg as Factions 1/ 2/ 3 [as we are waiting on a few, this doesn't have to match up with the rolelist]? A brief description as to why you feel this way would be good as well.

While we're making a list, you said you were looking through the last S-FM? What can you conclude from that at this moment in time?

Aside from the fact that I'm this town's Glorious Leader and all the Protectives should be on me this game, of course.

[Numbertwo]

Hey, Hey. I am truly hidden so i have no idea what faction im a part of.

[Funce]

While we're making a list, you said you were looking through the last S-FM? What can you conclude from that at this moment in time?

Aside from the fact that I'm this town's Glorious Leader and all the Protectives should be on me this game, of course.

Back. You sound like Firebringer with the last point. Only he so far proclaims he is the town leader all game.
As well as Frog.

Upon speculation of Faction, only 2 people know what faction they are a part of and 5(?) people don't know anything about their faction.

Just remember guys, if you find yourself Roleblocked(With feedback) then remember you cant be healed until the roleblocker is dead.

[Funce]

Hey, Hey. I am truly hidden so i have no idea what faction im a part of.

We have 1 of 5!

Do you think that was smart number two. Once we get 3 truly hidden confirmed faction 3 and you're not one of them we're going to see some serious backlash from this comment.

[Calix]

Hey, Hey. I am truly hidden so i have no idea what faction im a part of.

Thanks, bud.

Any thoughts on the last 2 pages? The more unfiltered you are, the better :)

@Funce, we don't actually find out what category someone falls under when they die, I don't think. We just get their role and faction, nothing else.

[Calix]

Back. You sound like Firebringer with the last point. Only he so far proclaims he is the town leader all game.
As well as Frog.

This is the best compliment you could have given me.

You see, I aim to surpass Firebringah on the Ladder. How I am going to do that is completely irrelevant because fuck details.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all 8-)

[ika]

At work so tonight but I'm here

[Numbertwo]

We have 1 of 5!

Do you think that was smart number two. Once we get 3 truly hidden confirmed faction 3 and you're not one of them we're going to see some serious backlash from this comment.

My role doesn't really suggest that im evil but how can 3 faction 3 truly hidden be confirmed?

[Funce]

My role doesn't really suggest that im evil but how can 3 faction 3 truly hidden be confirmed?

Any role, any faction.
There would be quite a few ways to figure them out. Based on role specific faction bonuses.

[Calix]

My role doesn't really suggest that im evil but how can 3 faction 3 truly hidden be confirmed?

So you're not claiming Serial Killer, Witch or Arsonist (which can be any faction, by the by).

Okay, thanks for the information.

[GameFreak]

I have read maybe 5 pages of both the last SFMs simply because i don't have time to read them all yet and maybe more importantly I can't get that much info out of those yet since the Standard one hasn't seen its conclusion posted and the other one doesnt have many people

So my info on everybody now is limited.
The list:

Calix: active player, either a solid town or a solid scumplayer.
What confused me most is when Suntax claimed he knew his faction you jumped on it. Yet when Funce said he had useless info you immediately hinted at things he could be.
So was Suntax a bluff or not ? You also read through the setup thoroughly, very thoroughly.
Guess: F1/3 witch, i dont think you know your faction yet.

Mikecall: Makes no opinions, funnily was very intrigued by Inves F3 before it was even called.
Guess: F1 ?

SuperJack: I have no clue
Guess : F2/3 rber knows faction.

Toadette: In just 5 pages i saw her incredibly active and engaging and apoligizing how she couldnt be active last FM
This FM she has not posted anything of value and looks hesitant. She might not know what to do, back in the day this in itself was good for a lynch on D1
Guess: F1 SK

Suntax: Can his F3 inves claim be believed ? I don't know, is he hoping because F3 has more players he has a doctor ?
We'll see how it pans out
Guess F3 something knows faction

Funce: Need more time
Guess: Doctor/rb ?

Numbertwo: Claims truly hidden, thats a bold move, have no clue what he is
Guess ? BD

Zerkom: Only 1 post and it was worthless yet last FM he was active, could be timing but he might try to stay under the radar
Guess F2 Arso


Take it with a grain of salt guys, i don't even know who i'm aligned with and some people only posted once.
I'd be happy if i got 1 right

[Calix]

Thats early but i'll work on it , it would be neat if you did the same

I'm using Faction 1 as code for Mafia, Faction 2 as code for Neutral, Faction 3 as code for Town.

GameFreak: Faction 2/ 3 (they don't seem to have the 'informed' spec of a Faction 1 imo). I don't know much about them, but they're contributing to the chat and don't need to be constantly prodded. I am cool with keeping them around for now.

Mikecall: Faction 3. He responded rationally to my pressure-voting, is being helpful and offering his own thoughts. I approve of this behaviour.

SuperJack: Shitposter. I'm going with Truly Hidden/ someone who doesn't like his role.

R2V2: Needs to give me pictures of what he looks like first before I go on a date with him <3

Toadette: Null, going to lean Faction 2/3 until she gets the chance to talk more. She went from 0 to 60 in terms of defensiveness when Game kept prodding them, but that seems to be more of a personality aspect rather than anything alignment-indicative.

Zekrom: Null read. I find him hard to pin down because he posts like this regardless of his alignment.

Funce: Faction 1 or 3, going off the implications picked up in their first post. Most likely has a role that is easy to confirm.

Suntax: Claims Hidden. Faction 1 or 3 Investigator. I'm inclined to lean Faction 1, but I'll wait to see how he uses his night actions first.

#2: Null read. Claims Truly Hidden. Seems to deny being an 'evil' role (so Arsonist, Witch, Serial Killer are out).

[SuperJack]

lol @ guesses

sounds like an over the top two edged spoon to me.

[Toadette]

Do you think it would be a good idea for us to claim who our actual targets might be and make a chart for that? This is a half-formed thing of a plan at the present, but I see several benefits to this:

A. It confirms Arsonist, Roleblocker, Serial Killer and Witch.

B. Any roles that can't target can say so now, so they can self-confirm to an extent.

C. This would give us more insight into the makeup of the role list.

D. I don't think it would endanger anyone because nobody knows what faction anyone else is, so something like an Investigator claim would be less likely to get you killed compared to a usual game.

There is the downside of the Faction 1 scum having information to work with and possibly several other factors that I haven't considered, but I feel that we need to start somewhere.

Discuss.

The last time someone suggested mapping out night actions, they were scum.

This game however, doesn't appear to have a scum and is a puzzle so sure if everyone agrees.

[GameFreak]

lol @ guesses

sounds like an over the top two edged spoon to me.

I am pretty edgy myself.

[Calix]

The last time someone suggested mapping out night actions, they were scum.

This game however, doesn't appear to have a scum and is a puzzle so sure if everyone agrees.

Yes, I know exactly what game you refer to. Your first game. Hosted by Firebringer. A game that RLVG and SuperJack played as well. Also a game full of PRs.

It's where I got the idea from, but I adjusted the purpose of asking slightly.

I'm flattered that you think I'm as conniving as Frog and Helz though :P

[SuperJack]

I am pretty edgy myself.

Why zig zag the upper tornado and call me hummus.

[Calix]

lol @ guesses

sounds like an over the top two edged spoon to me.

Do you wish to expand on what you meant with this unusual turn of phrase?

[GameFreak]

Why zig zag the upper tornado and call me hummus.

I hope you dont die Jack.
All your posts are quality shitposts.

[GameFreak]

I'm using Faction 1 as code for Mafia, Faction 2 as code for Neutral, Faction 3 as code for Town.

GameFreak: Faction 2/ 3 (they don't seem to have the 'informed' spec of a Faction 1 imo). I don't know much about them, but they're contributing to the chat and don't need to be constantly prodded. I am cool with keeping them around for now.



I'm indeed absolutely clueless about my Faction.

[Calix]

I'm indeed absolutely clueless about my Faction.

Let's get a rough idea of what people have claimed so far.

I'm of the opinion that at least one of you two are scum and will regret claiming this. It is far too early to tell which one, however, but it should be flagged up.

Faction 1
Truly Hidden
Hidden
Hidden


Faction 2
Truly Hidden
Hidden
Hidden


Faction 3
Truly Hidden [Gamefreak, presumably]
Truly Hidden [#2, presumably]
Truly Hidden
Hidden [Investigator Suntax?]
Hidden
Hidden
Hidden

[SuperJack]

Do you wish to expand on what you meant with this unusual turn of phrase?

No. I made myself clear.

[Toadette]

My apoligies, i didn't realise you had to read so hastily that you can't answer questions. Read again when you aren't working.

Fake apology and continued snarkiness noted. If you're looking to get a reaction out of me you got it.

GameFreak

Let's lynch this waste of space.

[GameFreak]

Let's get a rough idea of what people have claimed so far.

I'm of the opinion that at least one of you two are scum and will regret claiming this. It is far too early to tell which one, however, but it should be flagged up.



I suppose with scum you mean not your faction ? But i now realise you know your faction, so what is it
Faction 1 ?

[Toadette]

Hey, Hey. I am truly hidden so i have no idea what faction im a part of.

Me too. I have 0 clues as to what my strategy should be and who I should lynch, so let's just get rid of the waste of space.

[SuperJack]

Team Toadette!

GameFreak

[GameFreak]

Fake apology and continued snarkiness noted. If you're looking to get a reaction out of me you got it.

GameFreak

Let's lynch this waste of space.

You don't seem to have much experience with being pressured.

Toadette

[Toadette]

Toadette: In just 5 pages i saw her incredibly active and engaging and apoligizing how she couldnt be active last FM
This FM she has not posted anything of value and looks hesitant. She might not know what to do, back in the day this in itself was good for a lynch on D1
Guess: F1 SK


1) You're garbage if you think you understand my meta based off of one game

2) This game just started and I just started reading it - WHILE AT WORK. You really are a useless piece of garbage. I don't even get off of work for another 3 hours.

[Toadette]

lol @ guesses

sounds like an over the top two edged spoon to me.

Yeah like any of his guesses carry any weight this early on

[Toadette]

Yes, I know exactly what game you refer to. Your first game. Hosted by Firebringer. A game that RLVG and SuperJack played as well. Also a game full of PRs.

It's where I got the idea from, but I adjusted the purpose of asking slightly.

I'm flattered that you think I'm as conniving as Frog and Helz though :P

I don't think you're conniving. In a normal game this is a super bad idea as I quickly learned. This isn't a normal game so I'm okay with being open to the idea.

[GameFreak]

Me too. I have 0 clues as to what my strategy should be and who I should lynch, so let's just get rid of the waste of space.

The irony cuts deep

[Funce]

3 of 5 total hiddens!!
Keep em comin, we lynch all the total hiddens and faction 3 wins the tiebreaker!!

Faction 3 wins over F1/2 Hidden and loses to total hidden in a tie.

[GameFreak]

1) You're garbage if you think you understand my meta based off of one game

2) This game just started and I just started reading it - WHILE AT WORK. You really are a useless piece of garbage. I don't even get off of work for another 3 hours.

3)Yeah like any of his guesses carry any weight this early on

1) I don't otherwise i wouldnt be clueless.

3) They don't but its fun to look back at them when the game ends and it creates some actual thought for the readers. Town tries to keep the posts flowing.
I enjoyed reading what Calix thinks so far, you should try to make a list too.

Also if you truly are truly hidden, then you are right , lynching is not in your best interest you said this yourself, so what are you doing.

[Toadette]

You don't seem to have much experience with being pressured.

Toadette

Being an ass =/= being pressured. I don't have other votes on me - that's pressure. You're literally being an ass for the sake of being an ass, and then trying to guise that as pressure.

[Zekrom2802]

I actually dunno who to vote at the moment.

[Toadette]

1) I don't otherwise i wouldnt be clueless.

3) They don't but its fun to look back at them when the game ends and it creates some actual thought for the readers. Town tries to keep the posts flowing.
I enjoyed reading what Calix thinks so far, you should try to make a list too.

Also if you truly are truly hidden, then you are right , lynching is not in your best interest you said this yourself, so what are you doing.

I don't care if you end up being part of my faction, you're being an ass and I want you gone. I don't see how on day 1 any of us can truly scumhunt not knowing what we are, so might as well lynch someone despicable like you.

[Toadette]

I actually dunno who to vote at the moment.

I would appreciate it if you voted GameFreak with me Zekky.

[Calix]

I suppose with scum you mean not your faction ? But i now realise you know your faction, so what is it
Faction 1 ?

Since I am talking in the day chat, scum would clearly refer to Factions 1 and 2 as Faction 3 have the majority at the moment.

To both Toadette and Game, this argument is becoming pointless. There is no point in lynching when the majority of us don't even have full information about our own alignments. It reveals no information aside from the faction flavour (Town, Neutral, etc).

If you're going to continue to bicker, please make it more relevant. Thank you.

@Toadette, I would like to confirm that you have just claimed Truly Hidden?

@Funce, I am glad to see that you have also read the setup and have thought logically about it. I would not have stated that conclusion of yours yet, however, as it may discourage the other True Hiddens from revealing.

[GameFreak]

I don't care if you end up being part of my faction, you're being an ass and I want you gone. I don't see how on day 1 any of us can truly scumhunt not knowing what we are, so might as well lynch someone despicable like you.

I had not intention of being an ass, stop taking this personally.

Also Calix what is your faction you didnt include it in the list.

I'll be back in an hour

[Funce]

I actually dunno who to vote at the moment.

Is this a post count inflation? You dont need to vote. I never vote unless its Firebringer.
Speaking of which
-vote Calix

Otherwise I don't vote at all.

[GameFreak]

To both Toadette and Game, this argument is becoming pointless. There is no point in lynching when the majority of us don't even have full information about our own alignments. It reveals no information aside from the faction flavour (Town, Neutral, etc).

.

You make a good point

-vote unvote

[Calix]

I actually dunno who to vote at the moment.

Much as this is out-of-character for me, I am actually considering a no-lynch unless I find a solid lead.

There is just not enough information to make a Day 1 lynch worthwhile, in my opinion. Usually, I'm all for it, but the scum in this game are not united. It doesn't matter about their role if it doesn't tell us anything else about their behaviour.

I'm against the train on Game. Grudge votes =/= problem-solving.

[Funce]

You make a good point

-vote unvote

Use (unvote)(/unvote) if you wish to do so.

[Calix]

Is this a post count inflation? You dont need to vote. I never vote unless its Firebringer.
Speaking of which
-vote Calix

Otherwise I don't vote at all.

Have I turned into the new Firebringah in your eyes? I'd like some reasoning behind this vote change.

[Toadette]

I had not intention of being an ass, stop taking this personally.

Also Calix what is your faction you didnt include it in the list.

I'll be back in an hour

When you're an ass and I call you out for being an ass and you continue to be an ass I will continue to point out how you are being an ass.

[Funce]

Much as this is out-of-character for me, I am actually considering a no-lynch unless I find a solid lead.

There is just not enough information to make a Day 1 lynch worthwhile, in my opinion. Usually, I'm all for it, but the scum in this game are not united. It doesn't matter about their role if it doesn't tell us anything else about their behaviour.

I'm against the train on Game. Grudge votes =/= problem-solving.

I'd go for a no-lynch as well. Why do we wish to kill at Christmas!
On a more serious note, we cant know what faction we are unless we get at least one night.
But before we skip day minimum lynch requirement is 2, and if we try to skip now, it would result in GameFreak being lynched.

[Funce]

Have I turned into the new Firebringah in your eyes? I'd like some reasoning behind this vote change.

There is no reason to that vote. Just Firebringer.

[Calix]

@Toadette, SuperJack. Would one of you consider unvoting for now? We still have a lot of time and this lynch train isn't substantial enough to be maintained.

[Zekrom2802]

I would appreciate it if you voted GameFreak with me Zekky.

Sorry, but I'm not willing to sheep him yet. You kinda overreacted a little bit because he mentioned your "lack" of activity so far and that's the only reason you are voting for him in my opinion. I'm also a waste of space at the moment. Didn't contribute anything useful yet. :(

But otherwise... He freaking misspelled my name. I mean... I'm fine with Zekkrom w/e, but Zerkom is deadly.

(We can't hammer anyways, freaking L-20. Gonna wait until we find a better train.)

[Calix]

I'd go for a no-lynch as well. Why do we wish to kill at Christmas!
On a more serious note, we cant know what faction we are unless we get at least one night.
But before we skip day minimum lynch requirement is 2, and if we try to skip now, it would result in GameFreak being lynched.

Agreed. Tells about the majority of the players' factions will become evident on Day 2.

Today is the equivalent of a 'this is how we act when we know very little about our wincons!' day. A pre-game chat, if you will.

@Zekrom. Some days I feel like you're turning into MattZed with your love of bandwagoning lynches. I'm shocked you didn't vote!

[Funce]

(We can't hammer anyways, freaking L-20. Gonna wait until we find a better train.)

Go read the lynch mechanic before I put you in the naughty corner.

[Zekrom2802]

Go read the lynch mechanic before I put you in the naughty corner.

I did, that's why I mentioned it.

[Funce]

I did, that's why I mentioned it.

My apologies Zekrom, I read it as you being weirded out by L-20.

[Toadette]

@Toadette, SuperJack. Would one of you consider unvoting for now? We still have a lot of time and this lynch train isn't substantial enough to be maintained.

I'm good for now.

[Toadette]

Sorry, but I'm not willing to sheep him yet. You kinda overreacted a little bit because he mentioned your "lack" of activity so far and that's the only reason you are voting for him in my opinion. I'm also a waste of space at the moment. Didn't contribute anything useful yet. :(

But otherwise... He freaking misspelled my name. I mean... I'm fine with Zekkrom w/e, but Zerkom is deadly.

(We can't hammer anyways, freaking L-20. Gonna wait until we find a better train.)

I can't yet state why I'm "overreacting", but I'm fairly and reasonably annoyed at the moment.

[Funce]

Balance gah.
Faction 3 has to eliminate 6 people, faction 1 and 2 have to eliminate 9
Only neighbours know each other, and even then its not guaranteed that they share wincons.
And the hard part is, no one knows what the hell they need to do!

[Calix]

Balance gah.
Faction 3 has to eliminate 6 people, faction 1 and 2 have to eliminate 9
Only neighbours know each other, and even then its not guaranteed that they share wincons.
And the hard part is, no one knows what the hell they need to do!

I was under the impression that neighbours would be the same faction and would be the equivalent of Masons if they were both Faction 3. I hadn't considered otherwise.

Why haven't you exchanged information with your neighbour yet?

Being clueless didn't stop you in any of Stealth's games.

[Zekrom2802]

I can't yet state why I'm "overreacting", but I'm fairly and reasonably annoyed at the moment.

Well, here is your whole "argument". To me it seems like you over-reacted because he accused you of being unhelpful. Of course I don't know the circumstances, so please don't take this as an offense.





....is this even mafia? This seems like a puzzle game


You signed up for it. Just do ur night actions and ur fine.


Yes I did, thank you for the snarky comment.


I mean no harm, but come on. You have been reading the setup for an hour now, you must have something more to say than 2 posts about your confusing.

Maybe answer Calix' question, what faction and role would you love to be and why.


Actually, Mr. Super Douche, I work for a living so I can't spend every waking moment reading this thing.


Thanks for being helpful, unlike the other guy.


My apoligies, i didn't realise you had to read so hastily that you can't answer questions. Read again when you aren't working.


Fake apology and continued snarkiness noted. If you're looking to get a reaction out of me you got it.

GameFreak

Let's lynch this waste of space.


You don't seem to have much experience with being pressured.

Toadette


1) You're garbage if you think you understand my meta based off of one game

2) This game just started and I just started reading it - WHILE AT WORK. You really are a useless piece of garbage. I don't even get off of work for another 3 hours.


The irony cuts deep


1) I don't otherwise i wouldnt be clueless.

3) They don't but its fun to look back at them when the game ends and it creates some actual thought for the readers. Town tries to keep the posts flowing.
I enjoyed reading what Calix thinks so far, you should try to make a list too.

Also if you truly are truly hidden, then you are right , lynching is not in your best interest you said this yourself, so what are you doing.


Being an ass =/= being pressured. I don't have other votes on me - that's pressure. You're literally being an ass for the sake of being an ass, and then trying to guise that as pressure.


I don't care if you end up being part of my faction, you're being an ass and I want you gone. I don't see how on day 1 any of us can truly scumhunt not knowing what we are, so might as well lynch someone despicable like you.


I had not intention of being an ass, stop taking this personally.

Also Calix what is your faction you didnt include it in the list.

I'll be back in an hour


You make a good point

-vote unvote


When you're an ass and I call you out for being an ass and you continue to be an ass I will continue to point out how you are being an ass.

[Calix]

Balance gah.
Faction 3 has to eliminate 6 people, faction 1 and 2 have to eliminate 9
Only neighbours know each other, and even then its not guaranteed that they share wincons.
And the hard part is, no one knows what the hell they need to do!

Factions 1 and 2 only have to eliminate 8 people as they need at least two of the opposing faction dead. If Faction 1/2 has two members and Faction 2/1 has one, the first faction wins.

[Toadette]

Well, here is your whole "argument". To me it seems like you over-reacted because he accused you of being unhelpful. Of course I don't know the circumstances, so please don't take this as an offense.

Other game just ended so now I can talk about it.

It's finals season, Christmas season, plus I work 40 hours a week. I get busy. I like to still play mafia, but some people are complete douches when it comes to activity and/or "dedication" to this game.

Last game (I was sheriff) I forgot a night action. I felt like I let my team down, but in the end this site is not my number 1 priority. Still I was annoyed at how I was being accused on not playing my role, or slacking off when simply I forgot with everything going on.

Now I'm getting flak from this punk about "hur dee durr, you've been reading that setup for an hour and have nothing to say" - guess what I'm working and I can only dedicate so much to this crap. So yeah, I'm annoyed and telling the punk to back off, and instead of actually apologizing, he continues his snarky attitude until he has 2 votes on him and Calix asks him and me to stop. Then he changes his tone. Hmmm yeah I'm okay leaving my vote here, emotional or not.

[secondpassing]

Hi, I'm at work. Just wanted to drop by though.

Without having read any of the posts, I would not vote Calix and Toadette. While I was scrolling to this point, I'd focus vote somewhere else

[Funce]

I think Toadette may of been having a bad day.
I literally have no other reason why she would blow up like that.

@calix
Can I not count.*checks*
No I'm fine. 7 F3 all need to be killed. And then 2 of opposing minority need to be killed.
Is that 9. I was doing a general statement for both 1 and 2. Sorry Calix for the confusion.

[RLVG]

R2V2: Needs to give me pictures of what he looks like first before I go on a date with him <3

How about, naaah. Think I used to have a bad photo of myself ages ago as the avatar.



In other news, someone in private has shown a critical host error.
There's a random "a" letter at the end of the rolecard. This error has been fixed.

[Toadette]

I think Toadette may of been having a bad day.
I literally have no other reason why she would blow up like that.

@calix
Can I not count.*checks*
No I'm fine. 7 F3 all need to be killed. And then 2 of opposing minority need to be killed.
Is that 9. I was doing a general statement for both 1 and 2. Sorry Calix for the confusion.

No Funce, I'm very much responding terribly to "pressure", obviously.

[Calix]

I think Toadette may of been having a bad day.
I literally have no other reason why she would blow up like that.

@calix
Can I not count.*checks*
No I'm fine. 7 F3 all need to be killed. And then 2 of opposing minority need to be killed.
Is that 9. I was doing a general statement for both 1 and 2. Sorry Calix for the confusion.

Ah wait, I just realised that there are 7 F3 members, not 6.

It is I that cannot count.

[Funce]

No Funce, I'm very much responding terribly to "pressure", obviously.

I forgot to specify that my comment was a response to zekrom's? Post.

Take your time though. I'd wouldn't want for you to go through the shit of your last game again.

[Funce]

Ah wait, I just realised that there are 7 F3 members, not 6.

It is I that cannot count.

My working was not clear. I apologise for you having to cut your own pride like that.

[Toadette]

I forgot to specify that my comment was a response to zekrom's? Post.

Take your time though. I'd wouldn't want for you to go through the shit of your last game again.

I'm not mad at you Funce, I appreciate that you're able to see this for what it is. I was responding back with extreme sarcasm and snarkiness, as I learned from our powerful snark leader.

[Calix]

My working was not clear. I apologise for you having to cut your own pride like that.

Psh, my pride is made of finely-cut diamond. It is impenetrable to everything, even to blows such as losing the first game I joined.

[Funce]

I'm not mad at you Funce, I appreciate that you're able to see this for what it is. I was responding back with extreme sarcasm and snarkiness, as I learned from our powerful snark leader.

Oh good. I was praying that you wouldn't take the second half of my post as sarcasm.

[Zekrom2802]

Other game just ended so now I can talk about it.

It's finals season, Christmas season, plus I work 40 hours a week. I get busy. I like to still play mafia, but some people are complete douches when it comes to activity and/or "dedication" to this game.

Last game (I was sheriff) I forgot a night action. I felt like I let my team down, but in the end this site is not my number 1 priority. Still I was annoyed at how I was being accused on not playing my role, or slacking off when simply I forgot with everything going on.

Now I'm getting flak from this punk about "hur dee durr, you've been reading that setup for an hour and have nothing to say" - guess what I'm working and I can only dedicate so much to this crap. So yeah, I'm annoyed and telling the punk to back off, and instead of actually apologizing, he continues his snarky attitude until he has 2 votes on him and Calix asks him and me to stop. Then he changes his tone. Hmmm yeah I'm okay leaving my vote here, emotional or not.

Yes, I can totally understand that, but it probably wasn't his intention to piss you off. He had no idea of your work conditions. It's also hard to apologize if you instantly react aggressive towards him.

[Funce]

Psh, my pride is made of finely-cut diamond. It is impenetrable to everything, even to blows such as losing the first game I joined.

I lost in my first game because Slaol was after me, Firebringer buddied me and there wasn't even any night actions.
This is probably why I distrust Firebringer.

[GameFreak]

My apoligies Toadette, i didn't realise you were having a bad day. I want you to know my comment was really just a fun joke in pregame chat. And my comments after were in surprise. I don't see this day as a serious day for gaining information.

That said i still find Calix' question fun, what would you guys want to be this game guys ?

[GameFreak]

Also as an update to the Calix list, i never claimed Truly hidden.

[Calix]

Also as an update to the Calix list, i never claimed Truly hidden.

It appears that I misinterpreted one of your posts. How did you intend this comment to be taken?


I'm indeed absolutely clueless about my Faction.

Because that looks like a pretty strong 'True Hidden' claim to me.

[Suntax]

Game you seem like a good man you do and unless evidence come up besides one person thinks your a douce because they got offended on the internet
GUYS LISTEN SONEONE GOT OFFENDED ON THE INTERNET OMFG CALL THE POLICE. Unless evidence crops up between you being evil then I stick by you. Want some vodka or a hat

[Toadette]

Yes, I can totally understand that, but it probably wasn't his intention to piss you off. He had no idea of your work conditions. It's also hard to apologize if you instantly react aggressive towards him.

Cool, so because it's hard to apologize for him (pride), he can get away with being an ass, and I'm the one who is in the wrong. Good to see where you stand Zekky.


My apoligies Toadette, i didn't realise you were having a bad day. I want you to know my comment was really just a fun joke in pregame chat. And my comments after were in surprise. I don't see this day as a serious day for gaining information.

That said i still find Calix' question fun, what would you guys want to be this game guys ?

Apology accepted. That being said, my vote will remain on you for now. You stuck to your guns until a 3rd party intervened, suggesting that you want Calix to townread you and will do whatever Calix asks. This is scummy behavior. Had you just apologized in the first place instead of letting it go this far, it would have been better for your game.

[GameFreak]

It appears that I misinterpreted one of your posts. How did you intend this comment to be taken?



Because that looks like a pretty strong 'True Hidden' claim to me.

I simply don't know if i'm 2 or 3.

Just like you claim aswell ?

[Calix]

I simply don't know if i'm 2 or 3.

Just like you claim aswell ?

So you're claiming Hidden and deny ties to Faction 1?

I haven't claimed a Faction or my role.

[GameFreak]

Cool, so because it's hard to apologize for him (pride), he can get away with being an ass, and I'm the one who is in the wrong. Good to see where you stand Zekky.



Apology accepted. That being said, my vote will remain on you for now. You stuck to your guns until a 3rd party intervened, suggesting that you want Calix to townread you and will do whatever Calix asks. This is scummy behavior.

I think Zekrom(i got it correct :D) just doesn't want to add to the argument. He's a cool guy.

Also Calix and i don't trust each other , but we are letting each other be because we were the only active people at the time and we wanted to have a chat.

[GameFreak]

So you're claiming Hidden and deny ties to Faction 1?

I haven't claimed a Faction or my role.

All i can say is that i'm not Faction 1 yes.

[Suntax]

Seems fair point game well you can't trust anycomrade these days they all just try and Putin there little bit of infomation to win trust
but mafia is not like that there is no trust just war and
War...War never changes

[Calix]

All i can say is that i'm not Faction 1 yes.

Huh, my guessimations have been relatively accurate so far. Who would have thought?

I'll add that update to my list.

[GameFreak]

@Suntax

Taking notes from Jack's quality posting i see

[Calix]

Seems fair point game well you can't trust anycomrade these days they all just try and Putin there little bit of infomation to win trust
but mafia is not like that there is no trust just war and
War...War never changes

[FLUFF: I'm going to come across as the densest fuck on the planet by asking...but have you actually fought in the First Chechen War?]

[Shifty]

I'm not in faction 1. Woo.

[Zekrom2802]

Cool, so because it's hard to apologize for him (pride), he can get away with being an ass, and I'm the one who is in the wrong. Good to see where you stand Zekky.


Great, now I feel like the biggest asshole here. I was just trying to say that in his point of view you probably were the ass, instantly reacting aggressive towards him. If you'd have nicely explained him your current work conditions/having a bad day/lack of time he probably would've apologized instantly. I'm not saying that you were wrong, but this pretty much escalated far too quickly...

Anyways, I feel like I'm even making it worse with every post, so I apologize for my interfere in your affairs.

[Toadette]

1.condition



2.nerve



3.chess



4.jeans



5.strange



6.rely



7.fantastic



8.clear



9.groovy



10.gabby



11.magical



12.synonymous



13.soak



14.buzz



15.gaudy



16.cause



17.crime



18.instruct



19.powerful



20.functional



21.bump



22.wood



23.form



24.wide



25.mushy



26.unfasten



27.improve



28.disillusioned



29.friction



30.round



31.green



32.bushes



33.travel



34.guarded



35.bewildered



36.trite



37.wren



38.sense



39.squirrel



40.branch



41.terrible



42.annoyed



43.file



44.smell



45.productive



46.elite



47.loud



48.guard



49.heat



50.pull



51.bored



52.aware



53.scarf



54.ski



55.wool



56.history



57.amuse



58.injure



59.property



60.jewel



61.four



62.calendar



63.offend



64.tan



65.exclusive



66.rice



67.sticks



68.demonic



69.clam



70.juicy



71.voiceless



72.penitent



73.phobic



74.board



75.berry



76.maddening



77.adjoining



78.skinny



79.glib



80.coal



81.girl



82.zoo



83.friends



84.birthday



85.slap



86.chew



87.vest



88.own



89.far



90.nebulous



91.ancient



92.paper



93.pour



94.marked



95.shivering



96.choke



97.wholesale



98.alert



99.shop



100.head

[Calix]

I'm not in faction 1. Woo.

Are you claiming Hidden?

[Suntax]

Yes i did calix but at the time I was a warrant officer so I was based on more logistical work but i did go out on patrol a good many times.
I fought more during Afghan war that's where I saw some shit I won't forget but in fairness I like fallout and the reference fitted.

Game I just got back on wanted to shitpost before I got serious

[GameFreak]

69.clam


Call me childish but i giggled.

[Calix]

Yes i did calix but at the time I was a warrant officer so I was based on more logistical work but i did go out on patrol a good many times.
I fought more during Afghan war that's where I saw some shit I won't forget but in fairness I like fallout and the reference fitted.

Game I just got back on wanted to shitpost before I got serious

The reason I asked is because I've studied both, so I just found it interesting that you happened to experience both events that I've coldly analysed and talked about in class.

Anyway, I'm going to post an updated edition of that role list soon to make up for these off-topic posts.

[Calix]

Pinpointing factions will be next-to-impossible, so I'll revise the list. I hope I will be able to add more information in the morning:

HIDDEN

Suntax: Faction 1 or 3 [Investigator]
Gamefreak: Faction 2 or 3
Shifty: Faction 2 or 3

TRULY HIDDEN

#2
Toadette?

FACTION 1
Truly Hidden
Hidden X2

FACTION 2
Truly Hidden
Hidden X2

FACTION 3
Truly Hidden X3
Hidden X4

[SuperJack]

I'm just going to put on my hat and that will be that.

[GameFreak]

@Calix any reason why you aren't claiming ?

[Calix]

@Calix any reason why you aren't claiming ?

Yes.

[GameFreak]

Fair enough, i'm off to bed.

[SuperJack]

Fair enough, i'm off to bed.

*follows*

[Suntax]

Pulls out gun and shoots the gays because Russians hate gays

[Shifty]

Are you claiming Hidden?

Yup.

[RLVG]

I'm off. Any questions asked while I'm gone will be answered when I return.

[SuperJack]

Pulls out gun and shoots the gays because Russians hate gays

I'm a girl

[ika]

ok by page 3 im more amused by the fact nobody tried a mass claim game yet

[Funce]

ok by page 3 im more amused by the fact nobody tried a mass claim game yet

Nobody's going to do that because everyone's afraid they're scum.

[Toadette]

Nobody's going to do that because everyone's afraid they're scum.

Cool, so you're a possible scum. Thanks!

[ika]

well techancly speaking everyone is scum from the POV. town will look at mafia and nythign that doesnt share wincon as scum

scums look as town as the real scums cus they are a threat no?

[ika]

sigh and ppl leave when i come

[Toadette]

sigh and ppl leave when i come

Sup ika. Looking for a vote on GameFreak if you wanna leave one

[Toadette]

You make a good point

-vote unvote


Use (unvote)(/unvote) if you wish to do so.

Funny story: He never fixed it. Wonder if he's wondering if anyone would notice.

[Toadette]

Everyone is scared to lynch day 1 because they think they may be scum and lynching their scum partners

I'm going to assume I'm town until proven otherwise and move forward with the Pro town strategy of lynching day one.

[Funce]

Everyone is scared to lynch day 1 because they think they may be scum and lynching their scum partners

I'm going to assume I'm town until proven otherwise and move forward with the Pro town strategy of lynching day one.

Everyone is scared to lynch, not because of lynching scum partners, but because we cannot reliably tell scum from town on this day, because nobody knows what the hell they are.

[ika]

nobody read stup did they....

i would not be surprised if sj/calix are faction one right now based on the lycnh mechanic

[Toadette]

nobody read stup did they....

i would not be surprised if sj/calix are faction one right now based on the lycnh mechanic

Why do you think they're aligned?

[ika]

nvm i misread it

but you should go read the lynch mechanics. you should realize that RLVG meta almsot never uses a mjoarity lynch

[secondpassing]

I realize there is another person browsing the thread. I'm here, feel free to ask me any questions while I peruse the chats.

[Toadette]

nvm i misread it

but you should go read the lynch mechanics. you should realize that RLVG meta almsot never uses a mjoarity lynch

Yes, that's obvious, he always suggests no lynching, even in LYLO

[secondpassing]

Hello person and being,

This is my first game so please take it easy on your kouhai (your junior).
You may refer to me as a he, a she, as sp (because I will spell things wrong all the time), or your judge.
For I am the Argent Defender of Justice: Argent Squire. You can find me online quite often.
I'll be reading your posts, and then reading mine, and then thinking about them, and then I will make some sort
of error because I thought way too much.

Just ask me a straight question if I confuse you.

I'm not good with jokes.






Seems fair point game well you can't trust anycomrade these days they all just try and Putin there little bit of infomation to win trust
but mafia is not like that there is no trust just war and
War...War never changes

^This is oh. so. disagreeable with.

[secondpassing]

Once I figure out how to vote people. I am going to be pushing for a lynch because I am town.

[Calix]

Once I figure out how to vote people. I am going to be pushing for a lynch because I am town.

What makes you so sure that you are town?

[secondpassing]

This text is too small lol.

Once I get the chance I am going to vote Calix, Mikecall, Thornholt, Shifty, Zekrom2802, and ika.

Mikecall:
Is he really that serious with this fight thing? He doesn't participate like Calix does in promoting discussion. His posts are quite concise though. Still highest priority to lynch. Day 1.

Zekrom2802:
His actions are shifty. I don't like it. Seems like a ploy to gain some town points. Day 2.

Calix:
I'll be honest, you're my favorite player, but unfortunately you're scum this game. I'd rather have you lynched later due to some scum-town discussion promotion. Day 3.


Thornholt, Shifty, Gamefreak:
I have no guarantee that they will be active later, so I am assuming that they will be inactive. Lynching an inactive player to reveal their alignment is beneficial for my team's victory. Day 1/Day2/Day Lynch or Town Loss.

We can vote to lynch for multiple people right?


I would not lynch Toadette. This still stands.
I would not lynch Suntax. He will not survive. My guess is that he will die by Day 3.
I will vote Gamefreak if all the other options are not available.

Do not heal me tonight. I am happy being a sacrifice.
I believe I am at least 2/3 correct with my scum findings.


There is not enough peer pressure, fear, and psychopathy in this game.

[secondpassing]

What makes you so sure that you are town?

It says in my rolecard that I am not faction 1.
My night action doesn't look like I would be in faction 2.
Therefore I assume I am town and will play as such.

[secondpassing]

TO EVERYONE: What role and Faction would you want to be and why?


I would like to be a F3 Doctor, because it fits the kind of person I am.
Toadette, Suntax, or an inactive player would be the target of choice for my first night.

[secondpassing]

I've got a bit to learn with forum postings >...>

That last quote was by Calix.

[secondpassing]

Mikecall
Zekrom2802
Calix
Thornholt
Shifty

hope this works

[Calix]

FOS on secondpassing for trying out the Beginner's Gambit...despite having joined in May 2015.

Yeah no to that strategy.


This text is too small lol.

Once I get the chance I am going to vote Calix, Mikecall, Thornholt, Shifty, Zekrom2802, and ika.

Mikecall:
Is he really that serious with this fight thing? He doesn't participate like Calix does in promoting discussion. His posts are quite concise though. Still highest priority to lynch. Day 1.

Zekrom2802:
His actions are shifty. I don't like it. Seems like a ploy to gain some town points. Day 2.

Calix:
I'll be honest, you're my favorite player, but unfortunately you're scum this game. I'd rather have you lynched later due to some scum-town discussion promotion. Day 3.


Thornholt, Shifty, Gamefreak:
I have no guarantee that they will be active later, so I am assuming that they will be inactive. Lynching an inactive player to reveal their alignment is beneficial for my team's victory. Day 1/Day2/Day Lynch or Town Loss.

We can vote to lynch for multiple people right?


I would not lynch Toadette. This still stands.
I would not lynch Suntax. He will not survive. My guess is that he will die by Day 3.
I will vote Gamefreak if all the other options are not available.

Do not heal me tonight. I am happy being a sacrifice.
I believe I am at least 2/3 correct with my scum findings.


There is not enough peer pressure, fear, and psychopathy in this game.

That fight was a reference to another S-FM where I was the leading member on his lynch on Day 1.

- Your attempt at flattery has been noted. How do you know that I am scum?

- Advocates a policy lynch when we're 12 hours into a 48 hour day.

- Claims that they think we can lynch multiple people at once.

- Unfounded level of confidence in their findings that does not match up with the evidence.


It says in my rolecard that I am not faction 1.
My night action doesn't look like I would be in faction 2.
Therefore I assume I am town and will play as such.

You can be any faction with any role. Thanks for claiming that you're not Serial Killer, Arsonist or Witch.

[Funce]

FOS on secondpassing for trying out the Beginner's Gambit...despite having joined in May 2015.

Yeah no to that strategy.


I was a new player only about a month ago. FIrst forum game. Check my join date.
Thats more preposterous.

[Calix]

Oh wait, I forgot to add the obvious.

THEY ARE TRYING TO LYNCH MULTIPLE PEOPLE ON DAY 1 WITH NO LEADS.

HOW IS THAT PRO-TOWN?

[secondpassing]

Crap, I bet I posted that twice.

[Calix]

I was a new player only about a month ago. FIrst forum game. Check my join date.
Thats more preposterous.

I still find it hard to believe that anyone can be that ignorant of how mafia works and still sign up for it. Why would you join and not look through another game to see how it works first or something?

[ika]

heh......

i wonder how rlvg would work out not reading enough votes

[secondpassing]

I still find it hard to believe that anyone can be that ignorant of how mafia works and still sign up for it. Why would you join and not look through another game to see how it works first or something?

Of course I read some mafia games.




Apparently, I can't vote for multiple people, that's a shame.

You can be the voice of reason. I'll be discord.

[Calix]

heh......

i wonder how rlvg would work out not reading enough votes

You need a majority of votes to lynch. We can't end a day early unless people -voteskip. If we do that now, GameFreak will be lynched due to having 2 votes.

CURRENT VOTE COUNT

Suntax (1 [L-19]):
Calix [on suspicion of him being F1]
GameFreak (2 [L-18]):
Toadette [grudge vote], SuperJack [sheep vote]
Toadette (1 [L-19]):
GameFreak [OMGUS, reactive vote]
Mikecall (1 [L-19]):
secondpassing [first person in their post to be voted]

[Calix]

Of course I read some mafia games.




Apparently, I can't vote for multiple people, that's a shame.

You can be the voice of reason. I'll be discord.

This further proves my point. You've read games, yet you still labour under the delusion that we can vote off multiple players without a Marshall in the setup...how does that not sound like a gambit?

[Toadette]

Yeah, I'm with secondpassing. This Calix doesn't feel like town Calix from the last few games.

Calix

[secondpassing]

This further proves my point. You've read games, yet you still labour under the delusion that we can vote off multiple players without a Marshall in the setup...how does that not sound like a gambit?

I didn't say I wanted to lynch multiple players in a single day, I just thought I could raise the count of votes on them so we could definitely get a lynch off.

I recently learned of what a hammer is. There is no hammer, so you probably shouldn't be worried about that.

This is not a gambit.

[Calix]

Yeah, I'm with secondpassing. This Calix doesn't feel like town Calix from the last few games.

Calix

I cannot tell wherever this is actually legit or wherever you're continuing to mock GameFreak for no reason.

Please elaborate.

[Calix]

I didn't say I wanted to lynch multiple players in a single day, I just thought I could raise the count of votes on them so we could definitely get a lynch off.

I recently learned of what a hammer is. There is no hammer, so you probably shouldn't be worried about that.

This is not a gambit.

Where would you even come to that conclusion? O_o

Yes, because I read the setup -_-

Your luck is being stretched thin then.

[Mikecall]

Mikecall
Zekrom2802
Calix
Thornholt
Shifty

hope this works

Only one vote works second, so you pretty much got your vote on me at the moment.

[Mikecall]

I was a new player only about a month ago. FIrst forum game. Check my join date.
Thats more preposterous.

Everyone started at a particular date, but it doesnt mean that they wouldn't be inexperienced in that type of field.

[RLVG]

We can vote to lynch for multiple people right?

Nay. If that was the case, everyone would form the most epic ring of votes and nobody lives to see the following night.
Only one can be lynched each day.



For clarification, I'd like everyone to make an Official vote, those counts. Here's the command for making a vote :

player_name

You don't do the same command for skipping the day. For that, you simply type -SKIP and mark it with red text.



This is on the OP :

Required amount of votes required to lynch :

The one with most votes at the end of day are lynched, with minimum of 2 votes required. If no one have 2 or more votes, then there won't be a lynch.
There's no Lynch Hammer, but the host may listen to the plead of cutting the day short by 24 hours. (No less, no more)
To plead to cutting the day short, type -SKIP. Majority of players (51%, half with decimal rounded up [13/2=6.5=7), or half without decimal +1 [12/2=6=7])
If you no longer want to skip the day, then you may also do -UNSKIP


Include that only one can be lynched per day and ties will be randomized.

[Funce]

Yeah, I'm with secondpassing. This Calix doesn't feel like town Calix from the last few games.

Calix

So you think that she's faction 1 and knows?
Cause that's the only way I see this vote as having reasoning.

[Funce]

My current thoughts right now.

Current Dilemma:
Do Faction 1 True Hiddens know they are part of Faction 1 due to faction bnous?
Answer to Dilemma:
Read the Faction bonus wrong, and now I look like an idiot.

Current Reads:
Reads are useless, because only 2 people know what they are.

Current Goal:
Try not to get d1 lynched.
Figure out what faction I have.

[RLVG]

Here's the current list of official votes :

Suntax (1):
Voters: Calix

Calix (1):
Voters: Toadette

GameFreak (1):
Voters: SuperJack

Toadette (1):
Voters: GameFreak

Mikecall (1):
Voters: secondpassing

No one has voted SKIP (which skips the day by 24 hours).

[GameFreak]

Apparantly unvote has a special BBcode or something ?

But i do not believe Calix is scum and jumping the vote from one person to another doesn't seem very town either. I'll leave my vote where it is.

[RLVG]

Apparantly unvote has a special BBcode or something ?

Yepp, like this :

[Thornholt]

hey guys, just dropping by for the first time in tgis game, been a bit occupied with the GF (girlfriend not godfather lol). I'll be checking as often as possible. Let's have a fun game everyone!

[Thornholt]

okay, not sure if I'll read all 11 pages before this as we are on day 1 and I believe in not doing random lynch. I do agree on lynching inactive players. Which means don't lynch me I'M ACTIVE!!!

as for what role I'd wish to be: I always enjoyed SK and MM in sc2.... this is my first forum mafia game :)

[Calix]

okay, not sure if I'll read all 11 pages before this as we are on day 1 and I believe in not doing random lynch. I do agree on lynching inactive players. Which means don't lynch me I'M ACTIVE!!!

as for what role I'd wish to be: I always enjoyed SK and MM in sc2.... this is my first forum mafia game :)

Allow me to assist you as you seem to be struggling.

- Some players have revealed wherever they are Hidden/ Truly Hidden. Care to reveal which category you fall under?

- We may no-lynch due to scum-reading being difficult.

- I meant the roles in the setup. We don't have a MM.

- Here's an updated explanation of the votes:

Suntax (1):
Voters: Calix [on suspicion of him being a scum faction]

Calix (1):
Voters: Toadette ['not acting like town', has yet to expand on this point]

GameFreak (1):
Voters: SuperJack [Toadette had originally voted for Game due to a spat between the two; SuperJack sheepvoted]

Toadette (1):
Voters: GameFreak [reactive OMGUS vote]

Mikecall (1):
Voters: secondpassing [a failed attempt at voting for multiple players]

[Thornholt]

well techancly speaking everyone is scum from the POV. town will look at mafia and nythign that doesnt share wincon as scum

scums look as town as the real scums cus they are a threat no?

ok so questions... what is POV? Is scum = to any role that ain't town? and isnvt lynching an inactive player useless since a reserve can simply take his spot?

[Calix]

I believe in not doing random lynch. I do agree on lynching inactive players. Which means don't lynch me I'M ACTIVE!!!


ok so questions... what is POV? Is scum = to any role that ain't town? and isnvt lynching an inactive player useless since a reserve can simply take his spot?

LOL AT THIS SCUM

How inconsistent can you get in the span of two posts?

And you still haven't answered my question.

[POV = Point of View]

[Thornholt]

Allow me to assist you as you seem to be struggling.

- Some players have revealed wherever they are Hidden/ Truly Hidden. Care to reveal which category you fall under?

- We may no-lynch due to scum-reading being difficult.

- I meant the roles in the setup. We don't have a MM.

- Here's an updated explanation of the votes:

Suntax (1):
Voters: Calix [on suspicion of him being a scum faction]

Calix (1):
Voters: Toadette ['not acting like town', has yet to expand on this point]

GameFreak (1):
Voters: SuperJack [Toadette had originally voted for Game due to a spat between the two; SuperJack sheepvoted]

Toadette (1):
Voters: GameFreak [reactive OMGUS vote]

Mikecall (1):
Voters: secondpassing [a failed attempt at voting for multiple players]

thx, I'm slowly reading previous posts while working(RL job) that help. How many people mentioned their factions? Though mentioning as much could also be pointed out as lies... I'm willing to claim I ain't a truly hidden. Make of it what you wish ;)