S-FM 167: Standard

[AppleyNO]

Day Zero


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsqVDoYe7hU&list=PL6akIKaXBeU3hPzULIPfnFpt aAsnEdNMN&index=6


Lynch Activated!
7
Day ends at 4:30PM CST on December 1st, 2015 - http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4%3A30+pm+CST+December+1st%2C+2015


Players Alive
1. Teld SuperJack
2. Frog
3. Calix
4. RLVG
5. Ika
6. Yukitaka Oni
7. Zekrom2802
8. Mikecall
9. powerofdeath
10. Iced_Monopoly
11. Toadette
12. TheDarkestLight
13. Suntax

Graveyard
No One!

Role List
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral

Link to Setup: http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/24665-S-FM-Standard?
Good luck players!

Day Zero:
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/33846-S-FM-167-Standard
Day One:
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/33846-S-FM-167-Standard?p=539461#post539461
Day Two:
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/33846-S-FM-167-Standard?p=540013#post540013
Day Three:
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/33846-S-FM-167-Standard?p=540543#post540543
Day Four:
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/33846-S-FM-167-Standard?p=541365#post541365
Day Five:
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/33846-S-FM-167-Standard?p=542152#post542152

[Calix]

Hello all, might as well kick this off. Let's see if I don't screw up this voting process...

Mikecall

Since it says you're online and all.

[powerofdeath]

mikecall

[Iced_Monopoly]

Good morning!

Mikecall

[powerofdeath]

Teld is probably neutral. Based on the calculation of 84 suns and the square root of a football field.

Frog and Calix are very strong town. I predict that scums will probably target them night 1 or 2.

RLVG will be active anti town for various reasons based on algorithms by Teld.

Yukitaka Oni is a power role that is trying to lurk and avoid attention. Probably doctor or something.

Zekrom2802 and Mikecall will be the two obvious scums.

Iced_Monopoly is probably a bored citizen.

Toadette is also a citizen but isnt bored at all.

TDL is the second neutral.

Suntax is the last scum, but he will be really good at hiding among the town.

[powerofdeath]

Any cc? I will give you 5 minutes to cc otherwise we will move on to lynch Mikecall and go to Night 1.

[powerofdeath]

Vigilante should definitely shoot Zekrom tonight if there is one.

[powerofdeath]

In my opinion, TDL is an arsonist. Just because he hates the smell of gasoline and it reminds him of his mother's cooking when he was a mere child.

[TheDarkestLight]

In my opinion, TDL is an arsonist. Just because he hates the smell of gasoline and it reminds him of his mother's cooking when he was a mere child.

FUCK

GG, I lose.

-Surrender

[Iced_Monopoly]

Oh boy, you caught me!
Now if you could kindly reveal your role :3

[Yukitaka Oni]

Ya all mofo need communism v)o.o)>!

[Yukitaka Oni]

Welcome to mafia game. I am your jailor/sheriff. Doctor on me or get lynched v)o.o)>

[Yukitaka Oni]

Mafia on me or get lynched, Marshall reveal tomorrow, judge call court tomorrow or get lynched. I will lead Everyone to victory

[powerofdeath]

Welcome to mafia game. I am your jailor/sheriff. Doctor on me or get lynched v)o.o)>

so you would lynch doctor if he doesnt heal you?

SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!

yukitaka oni

[Yukitaka Oni]

so you would lynch doctor if he doesnt heal you?

SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!

yukitaka oni
Power of death = death note...= he can kill people OMG he's godfather O.o!
Town on me!
[vote]powerofdeath[\vote]

[Yukitaka Oni]

Power of death = death note...= he can kill people OMG he's godfather O.o!
Town on me!
[vote]powerofdeath[\vote]
Ay lmao can't edit..
powerofdeath

[Yukitaka Oni]

Power of death = 3 words = triangle
Illuminati + half life 3 confirmed v)o.o)>!

[Yukitaka Oni]

Don't worry town. Am Phoenix Wright's student v)o.o)>!

[Yukitaka Oni]

<(o.o)^ Mom! mom! Get the camera! I found the scum!

[ika]

Ugh

[ika]

I am stuck mobile posting for a bit

[ika]

Pod forgot about me. Would look into it

[ika]

Sigh when I'm around nobody else is

[Zekrom2802]

Teld is probably neutral. Based on the calculation of 84 suns and the square root of a football field.

Frog and Calix are very strong town. I predict that scums will probably target them night 1 or 2.

RLVG will be active anti town for various reasons based on algorithms by Teld.

Yukitaka Oni is a power role that is trying to lurk and avoid attention. Probably doctor or something.

Zekrom2802 and Mikecall will be the two obvious scums.

Iced_Monopoly is probably a bored citizen.

Toadette is also a citizen but isnt bored at all.

TDL is the second neutral.

Suntax is the last scum, but he will be really good at hiding among the town.

Oh noes, they got us! Mike, we have to run! Far over the mountains...

[Yukitaka Oni]

[QUOTE=Zekrom2802;538463]Oh noes, they got us! Mike, we have to run! Far over the mountains
Omg not da Jew :O? He steal gold ? Is that why he's scum?

[Iced_Monopoly]

Ugh

I am stuck mobile posting for a bit

Pod forgot about me. Would look into it

Sigh when I'm around nobody else is

Dat post count inflation

[Zekrom2802]

Dat post count inflation

Yep, he effectively reached his 5 posts, lol.

[powerofdeath]

Pod forgot about me. Would look into it

Didnt see you on the list apparently.

Ika: Random town with random town role.

[powerofdeath]

Welcome to mafia game. I am your jailor/sheriff. Doctor on me or get lynched v)o.o)>

But seriously does no one scum read Yukitaka Oni for this?


so you would lynch doctor if he doesnt heal you?

SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM SCUM!!!!!!!!!!!

yukitaka oni

This is my reasoning.

[Frog]

Good morning!

Mikecall


mikecall


Hello all, might as well kick this off. Let's see if I don't screw up this voting process...

Mikecall

Since it says you're online and all.

RVS. I'll sheep you and see if you're serious about committing.

Mikecall

Is anyone here NOT in favor of a D1 lynch?

[Frog]

But seriously does no one scum read Yukitaka Oni for this?



This is my reasoning.

Lol, PoD, I know you started out joking, but is this post a joke?

[RLVG]

RLVG will be active anti town for various reasons based on algorithms by Teld.

FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME


Vigilante should definitely shoot Zekrom tonight if there is one.

Lol noted.


FUCK

GG, I lose.

-Surrender

Oh no, I won.


Welcome to mafia game. I am your jailor/sheriff. Doctor on me or get lynched v)o.o)>

YOU AYNT BIG BRO FIREBRUNG

[RLVG]

Bussing Frog.

Frog

[Frog]

Would Lynch:
Mikecall
PoD

Maybe Lynch:
-------

Wouldn't Lynch:
------

[Toadette]

Hi all. Sorry to say I won't be able to be quite as active this game as I usually am, but I will give an effort.

Case on Yuki is misguided, but POD giving off town vibes.

My good friend Iced Monopoly feels scummy for giving an RVS mini train steam by being its third vote. High chance of scum there.

Iced_Monopoly

[Frog]

Hi all. Sorry to say I won't be able to be quite as active this game as I usually am, but I will give an effort.

Case on Yuki is misguided, but POD giving off town vibes.

My good friend Iced Monopoly feels scummy for giving an RVS mini train steam by being its third vote. High chance of scum there.

Iced_Monopoly

Lol, I find the case on Yuki is perhaps an extension of his joking nature. But it also resembles a hyper aggressive, 'as long as it isn't me' lynch vibe - which feels scum.

I'm tempted to go after thsi MikeCall vote because I can easily see beginning RVS as bussing - ESPECIALLY since PoD has changed his vote since.

[Toadette]

Lol, I find the case on Yuki is perhaps an extension of his joking nature. But it also resembles a hyper aggressive, 'as long as it isn't me' lynch vibe - which feels scum.

I'm tempted to go after thsi MikeCall vote because I can easily see beginning RVS as bussing - ESPECIALLY since PoD has changed his vote since.

This makes a lot of sense. I've bussed Firebringer before as an RVS vote when we were both scum.

[Frog]

This makes a lot of sense. I've bussed Firebringer before as an RVS vote when we were both scum.

There's the obvious fact that PoD starts off drawing a lot of attention to himself that has me hesitant about voting PoD instead of MikeCall. Mostly because his aggressive nature but not following through with a full on lynch train may suggest he's a jester of sorts.

[powerofdeath]

Bitching frog thinking I'm scum

Yukitaka Oni slipped that he would lynch doctor. How do you not find that scummy?

[powerofdeath]

Yep, he effectively reached his 5 posts, lol.

u cant count, ika only posted 4 times

[Toadette]

Bitching frog thinking I'm scum

Yukitaka Oni slipped that he would lynch doctor. How do you not find that scummy?

Yuki was trolling and I found it quite a funny comment

[Toadette]

u cant count, ika only posted 4 times

He's leaving 5th post to hammer

[powerofdeath]

Yuki was trolling and I found it quite a funny comment

i disagree with your post and i think that youre a bad citizen

[powerofdeath]

He's leaving 5th post to hammer

what if the day end with no lynch

[Toadette]

what if the day end with no lynch

He'll come back and say "wat hapined, im not readin"

[powerofdeath]

He'll come back and say "wat hapined, im not readin"

time traveler confirmed

[Toadette]

Days shouldn't end with no lynch though. When will you people learn.

[powerofdeath]

Days shouldn't end with no lynch though. When will you people learn.

Obviously, why else do you think were voting

[Calix]

I'm not opposed to remaining on the MikeCall train, especially as he managed to get to L-3 at one point. The votes could also be due to a neutral going along with the flow as opposed to bussing, but I'll reserve judgment until he actually appears.

As for POD being a jester, I'm inclined to disagree as he's being a bit too obvious about it. Seeing as it's the first day, it could also just be POD trolling, which is how I initially interpreted his posts. I wouldn't mind lynching him either if he continues the behaviour, however. If he's jester, then I'd prefer to get 1 neutral and 1 town/ mafia down early on as opposed to leaving a potential scum to distract town.

Also, where do I go to turn off the 'you have new posts that you may wish to review' feature? It's rather annoying T.T

I'm pretty sure we have enough people lurking around to pull off a lynch. I'm in favour of one.

[powerofdeath]

I'm not opposed to remaining on the MikeCall train, especially as he managed to get to L-3 at one point. The votes could also be due to a neutral going along with the flow as opposed to bussing, but I'll reserve judgment until he actually appears.

As for POD being a jester, I'm inclined to disagree as he's being a bit too obvious about it. Seeing as it's the first day, it could also just be POD trolling, which is how I initially interpreted his posts. I wouldn't mind lynching him either if he continues the behaviour, however. If he's jester, then I'd prefer to get 1 neutral and 1 town/ mafia down early on as opposed to leaving a potential scum to distract town.

Also, where do I go to turn off the 'you have new posts that you may wish to review' feature? It's rather annoying T.T

I'm pretty sure we have enough people lurking around to pull off a lynch. I'm in favour of one.

who said i was a jester? im the most important town player in this sfm

[ika]

Post

[powerofdeath]

Let push for discussion, calix whats your opinion on yukitaka Oni and Frog?

[powerofdeath]

Post

Ill see you day 2

[ika]

Ok no but more seriously I am about to sleep but I'm making it clear that my mobile posting will really limit my ability to make the post I like

[powerofdeath]

Ok no but more seriously I am about to sleep but I'm making it clear that my mobile posting will really limit my ability to make the post I like

im on mobile too, and im posting the exact way id like to post

[Toadette]

im on mobile too, and im posting the exact way id like to post

Me too. Bad excuse ika.

That being said he's posted more in the first hours of this day than he has in the last six games he's played combined. Keep it coming ika.

[powerofdeath]

Me too. Bad excuse ika.

That being said he's posted more in the first hours of this day than he has in the last six games he's played combined. Keep it coming ika.

why the hell are you attacking ika right now? The last few posts is you attacking ika. I dont it at all, whats done is done, let ika post at his own pace

[Toadette]

why the hell are you attacking ika right now? The last few posts is you attacking ika. I dont it at all, whats done is done, let ika post at his own pace

Lol why are you so defensive of ika?

[powerofdeath]

Lol why are you so defensive of ika?

counter question is not cool, answer me first

[Calix]

Let push for discussion, calix whats your opinion on yukitaka Oni and Frog?

I don't have much of an opinion on Yuki. As far as I am aware, Day 1 is often used for trolling, so in that sense, they could be opportunistic scum trying to use that to their advantage. The post you mentioned (about the doctor) could have been their attempt at soft-claiming a TPR as well, so it can be taken either way.

Frog could be anything in my eyes, but I'll lean town for now. Town because he's doing his usual thing on Day 1 of proposing theories, trying to organise town, etc etc. Neutral because a) he's quite hard to read Day 1 and b) his initial commentary of your votes could be scum taking the opportunity to try and lead an easy lynch on a town member.

I'll give ika a few more hours before I actually consider his four posts scummy. That's still more than several players here and for him, it's a decent amount.

I'm aware that I sound ambivalent, so ask me anything and I'll reply when I get back (as I have to leave in 10 minutes).

[Toadette]

counter question is not cool, answer me first

I wouldn't consider my posts an attack on ika in any way. Now you - why so defensive of him?

[Frog]

Yuki was trolling and I found it quite a funny comment

Everyone was trolling. PoD seems to be the only one having trouble transitioning to either - 'yes I was legitimately trolling' or 'no im standing by ridiculous opinion'. :-P

PoD, you're definitely peeked scum or neut.

[powerofdeath]

I don't have much of an opinion on Yuki. As far as I am aware, Day 1 is often used for trolling, so in that sense, they could be opportunistic scum trying to use that to their advantage. The post you mentioned (about the doctor) could have been their attempt at soft-claiming a TPR as well, so it can be taken either way.

Frog could be anything in my eyes, but I'll lean town for now. Town because he's doing his usual thing on Day 1 of proposing theories, trying to organise town, etc etc. Neutral because a) he's quite hard to read Day 1 and b) his initial commentary of your votes could be scum taking the opportunity to try and lead an easy lynch on a town member.

I'll give ika a few more hours before I actually consider his four posts scummy. That's still more than several players here and for him, it's a decent amount.

I'm aware that I sound ambivalent, so ask me anything and I'll reply when I get back (as I have to leave in 10 minutes).

1st paragraph said: scum trolls d1, yuki trolls, 1+1=2 yuki is scum/doctor lynhing anyone who claim doc

2nd paragraph said: frog could be anything. everybody could be anything, gj Eistein!

3rd paragrph said: ika posted 4 times, false its 6!

4th paragraph said: im making excuses why im lurking bai

[Frog]

what if the day end with no lynch

Do you support a no-lynch?

I'm tunneling you a bit, but you kind of asked for it with all the attention seeking at the start of day.

[powerofdeath]

I wouldn't consider my posts an attack on ika in any way. Now you - why so defensive of him?

i wouldnt consider my posts an defense on ika in any way. now you - you last 2 posts complained how ika always lurk in every sfms. who cares about the past sfms, were focusing on this one

[powerofdeath]

Do you support a no-lynch?

I'm tunneling you a bit, but you kind of asked for it with all the attention seeking at the start of day.

i want a lynch 100% otherwise i wouldnt voted anyone

[Frog]

I'm not opposed to remaining on the MikeCall train, especially as he managed to get to L-3 at one point. The votes could also be due to a neutral going along with the flow as opposed to bussing, but I'll reserve judgment until he actually appears.

As for POD being a jester, I'm inclined to disagree as he's being a bit too obvious about it. Seeing as it's the first day, it could also just be POD trolling, which is how I initially interpreted his posts. I wouldn't mind lynching him either if he continues the behaviour, however. If he's jester, then I'd prefer to get 1 neutral and 1 town/ mafia down early on as opposed to leaving a potential scum to distract town.

Also, where do I go to turn off the 'you have new posts that you may wish to review' feature? It's rather annoying T.T

I'm pretty sure we have enough people lurking around to pull off a lynch. I'm in favour of one.

You, I like. You're going on my Wouldn't Lynch list for the first 3 days.

I think PoD may be trying something fancy, which is why I probably won't end up voting him today, even though he is one of my leading options.

As for the RVS train - it's unusual for an RVS train to actually be pushed through without reason. I want to see if the current votes double down or not - and why.

[Toadette]

i wouldnt consider my posts an defense on ika in any way. now you - you last 2 posts complained how ika always lurk in every sfms. who cares about the past sfms, were focusing on this one

It wasn't so much a complaint as a trolly impersonation of ika followed by an approval of the number of posts.

If ika has a problem with my jokey attitude towards him I invite him to say so and I'll back off and respect that. He has made no such comment however and I figure he's brushing it off as nothing since he's not said anything.

I find it weird how you feel the need to jump to ikas defense over this when he hasn't indicated that he has a problem with said posts that I've done time and time again, even pushing to policy lynch him before. Want his emotional support and vote?

[powerofdeath]

You, I like. You're going on my Wouldn't Lynch list for the first 3 days.

I think PoD may be trying something fancy, which is why I probably won't end up voting him today, even though he is one of my leading options.

As for the RVS train - it's unusual for an RVS train to actually be pushed through without reason. I want to see if the current votes double down or not - and why.

Ill take that as a compliment. There is no such thing as an RVS except for maybe the first post. If you analyze every votes, you will notice theyre not random.

The first vote on Mikecall is probably a grudge vote, the rest of the votes are people who wanted to sheep

[powerofdeath]

It wasn't so much a complaint as a trolly impersonation of ika followed by an approval of the number of posts.

If ika has a problem with my jokey attitude towards him I invite him to say so and I'll back off and respect that. He has made no such comment however and I figure he's brushing it off as nothing since he's not said anything.

I find it weird how you feel the need to jump to ikas defense over this when he hasn't indicated that he has a problem with said posts that I've done time and time again, even pushing to policy lynch him before. Want his emotional support and vote?

youre forgetting that this is just a game, ika is a living breathing person outside of this game who have feeling and sexual fantasy about one girl somewhere in the world

my point is, youre encouraging him to lurk

[Frog]

I don't have much of an opinion on Yuki. As far as I am aware, Day 1 is often used for trolling, so in that sense, they could be opportunistic scum trying to use that to their advantage. The post you mentioned (about the doctor) could have been their attempt at soft-claiming a TPR as well, so it can be taken either way.

Frog could be anything in my eyes, but I'll lean town for now. Town because he's doing his usual thing on Day 1 of proposing theories, trying to organise town, etc etc. Neutral because a) he's quite hard to read Day 1 and b) his initial commentary of your votes could be scum taking the opportunity to try and lead an easy lynch on a town member.

I'll give ika a few more hours before I actually consider his four posts scummy. That's still more than several players here and for him, it's a decent amount.

I'm aware that I sound ambivalent, so ask me anything and I'll reply when I get back (as I have to leave in 10 minutes).

Have we played together before? Seriously though, I propose doctor heal Calix. Obvious town is obvious. Suggests all possible theories unfiltered, and has done so on enough players that I get a good taste of what's to come from Calix.

[RLVG]

Have we played together before? Seriously though, I propose doctor heal Calix. Obvious town is obvious. Suggests all possible theories unfiltered, and has done so on enough players that I get a good taste of what's to come from Calix.

What if it's a scum who didn't read the rolecard?

We don't really know that.
Those who plays the first day without reading the rolecard all sexually identify themselves as potato's.

[Toadette]

youre forgetting that this is just a game, ika is a living breathing person outside of this game who have feeling and sexual fantasy about one girl somewhere in the world

my point is, youre encouraging him to lurk

You're right, its just a game. If you're insinuating that I'm harassing ika that is not my intention and like I said I invite ika to say so and I'll stop.

[powerofdeath]

Have we played together before? Seriously though, I propose doctor heal Calix. Obvious town is obvious. Suggests all possible theories unfiltered, and has done so on enough players that I get a good taste of what's to come from Calix.

theres no way someone is 100% town when he only posted 3 times im sure you read my reply to his post and i find him scum. if anything vig or jailor should target him

[Toadette]

What if it's a scum who didn't read the rolecard?

We don't really know that.
Those who plays the first day without reading the rolecard all sexually identify themselves as potato's.

Waiting on your no lynch proposal, RLVG

[Frog]

It wasn't so much a complaint as a trolly impersonation of ika followed by an approval of the number of posts.

If ika has a problem with my jokey attitude towards him I invite him to say so and I'll back off and respect that. He has made no such comment however and I figure he's brushing it off as nothing since he's not said anything.

I find it weird how you feel the need to jump to ikas defense over this when he hasn't indicated that he has a problem with said posts that I've done time and time again, even pushing to policy lynch him before. Want his emotional support and vote?

Although this is a very good point, buddying etc. - Ika is in this game, let him play as he plays. We'll recognize his playstyle. If it's particularly more involved, then it will show. If not, then yes, Ika would be an easy lynch if there's nothing else to go off.

[Toadette]

theres no way someone is 100% town when he only posted 3 times im sure you read my reply to his post and i find him scum. if anything vig or jailor should target him

I don't have a read yet on the guy yet but I agree that strongly townreading him this early is forced or silly or both.

[powerofdeath]

You're right, its just a game. If you're insinuating that I'm harassing ika that is not my intention and like I said I invite ika to say so and I'll stop.

it bother a bystander now back off punk

[Mikecall]

Wait, power has a grudge on me? That just makes me sad, and probably powerofdeath trying to act executioner to draw attention away from everyone else.

[powerofdeath]

Wait, power has a grudge on me? That just makes me sad, and probably powerofdeath trying to act executioner to draw attention away from everyone else.

whos the first person to vote you? because that person is definitely not me

[RLVG]

Off to work.

You'll miss me.

Will randomly check in via mewbil phun gews.

Bai.



Before I leave :



I PROPOSE THAT WE DO A LYNCH DAY BY VOTING "RANDOM" AND HAVE THE HOST RANDOM THE LYNCH

[RLVG]

Waiting on your no lynch proposal, RLVG

You tomatoes are all the same.

[Mikecall]

But that first 3 votes though, could it be all the mafia spotted in one go? would seem I harboured the rage of Mafia to sign me off.

[Frog]

Ill take that as a compliment. There is no such thing as an RVS except for maybe the first post. If you analyze every votes, you will notice theyre not random.

The first vote on Mikecall is probably a grudge vote, the rest of the votes are people who wanted to sheep

I recognize this... Calix gave a solid defense. I want to hear from Iced_Monopoly on whether or not he would defend his current vote, why, and whether he would place his vote elsewhere.

[Mikecall]

whos the first person to vote you? because that person is definitely not me

But you are the one that wanted to keep it going, same with Calix, who was the first, and iced it would of seemed, going to look through these and see they would want to vote me that easy.

[powerofdeath]

I recognize this... Calix gave a solid defense. I want to hear from Iced_Monopoly on whether or not he would defend his current vote, why, and whether he would place his vote elsewhere.

you should marry calix if u luv him so much

[powerofdeath]

But you are the one that wanted to keep it going, same with Calix, who was the first, and iced it would of seemed, going to look through these and see they would want to vote me that easy.

my reasoning said that the rest of the votes wouldve been a sheep vote. No matter who Calix voted, I wouldve voted whoever he voted in my first post as a sheep vote

[Frog]

theres no way someone is 100% town when he only posted 3 times im sure you read my reply to his post and i find him scum. if anything vig or jailor should target him

You consider him opportunistic? In his read on me, which is essentially a read on himself, he considers this as a point. You think he's merely sheeping? He's made a convincing, at least to me, argument for maintaining his vote for the time being.

[Mikecall]

Hello all, might as well kick this off. Let's see if I don't screw up this voting process...

Mikecall

Since it says you're online and all.

And when I had to go off, seems legit, but got to love that even when I didn't post, you would still harbour some of that voting rage towards me. Don't think your getting out of my suspicion that easy.

[powerofdeath]

You consider him opportunistic? In his read on me, which is essentially a read on himself, he considers this as a point. You think he's merely sheeping? He's made a convincing, at least to me, argument for maintaining his vote for the time being.

where did i said he was sheeping people. I said people were sheeping him
god you need to take your eyeballs out and boil them and put it bakc in your head

[Frog]

What if it's a scum who didn't read the rolecard?

We don't really know that.
Those who plays the first day without reading the rolecard all sexually identify themselves as potato's.

LOL! I considered doing this, but I succumbed to reading my rolecard. Mostly because I decided it takes away an important aspect of the game and absolutely renders D1 useless. I'll follow up on this comment with a more recent post you made.


Off to work.

You'll miss me.

Will randomly check in via mewbil phun gews.

Bai.



Before I leave :



I PROPOSE THAT WE DO A LYNCH DAY BY VOTING "RANDOM" AND HAVE THE HOST RANDOM THE LYNCH


Two main thoughts on this -

Yes - obviously this isn't a real option, but allowing a random lynch disables scum from being able to protect themselves by leading conversation, or allowing Tvt to play out.

No - Statistically, the random will hit a Town instead of a Scum.

No - It renders D1 interactions useless and nothing to work with D2 (votes, reads, would lynch, wouldn't lynch lists, etc.)

Overall, it's a resounding No. And I'm placing you, RLVG, on my maybe lynch list now.

[Mikecall]

Oh noes, they got us! Mike, we have to run! Far over the mountains...

Yeah, got to take shelter in our base, they shall not know who we truly are.

[Frog]

where did i said he was sheeping people. I said people were sheeping him
god you need to take your eyeballs out and boil them and put it bakc in your head

LMAO. I love your posting style PoD. :-)

[Toadette]

it bother a bystander now back off punk

While I will back off of ika because this is a silly argument, itay have implications to the game. I find it wildly inconsistent how you jumped to his defense but didn't jump to mine when I was openly harassed my first game. So there feels like an underlying motive there.

I'm leaning towards jester for you as Frog mentioned earlier. You seem to want to argue for the sake of arguing about anything.

[ika]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63704

My last completed game, I have 53 post in there. I died n1.

Toadette if you hate me so much I am more then happy to replace out and let someone else take it

[powerofdeath]

While I will back off of ika because this is a silly argument, itay have implications to the game. I find it wildly inconsistent how you jumped to his defense but didn't jump to mine when I was openly harassed my first game. So there feels like an underlying motive there.

I'm leaning towards jester for you as Frog mentioned earlier. You seem to want to argue for the sake of arguing about anything.

maybe because im friend with ika and i thought you were a smurf in your first sfm

[Frog]

PoD, you are a hard scum. I want to see if Iced sees this and votes you.

*presses hands together and laughs manically*

[powerofdeath]

PoD, you are a hard scum. I want to see if Iced sees this and votes you.

*presses hands together and laughs manically*

k whatever u say stupid frog

[Frog]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63704

My last completed game, I have 53 post in there. I died n1.

Toadette if you hate me so much I am more then happy to replace out and let someone else take it

Chill man :-)

It's a casual game. No need to leave.

[Mikecall]

I'm not opposed to remaining on the MikeCall train, especially as he managed to get to L-3 at one point. The votes could also be due to a neutral going along with the flow as opposed to bussing, but I'll reserve judgment until he actually appears.

As for POD being a jester, I'm inclined to disagree as he's being a bit too obvious about it. Seeing as it's the first day, it could also just be POD trolling, which is how I initially interpreted his posts. I wouldn't mind lynching him either if he continues the behaviour, however. If he's jester, then I'd prefer to get 1 neutral and 1 town/ mafia down early on as opposed to leaving a potential scum to distract town.

Also, where do I go to turn off the 'you have new posts that you may wish to review' feature? It's rather annoying T.T

I'm pretty sure we have enough people lurking around to pull off a lynch. I'm in favour of one.


So so you want a random lynch, I find this to actually be an anti town post, you want to make it so scum can gain a chance to kill more people with having a big possibility to hit town. That being said, if you are not opposed to be against my train, why start it in the first place, with that said, with the amount of votes that was placed on me, I would of said Calix is a good scum to think about.

[Mikecall]

Overall, Calix

[Frog]

k whatever u say stupid frog

I'll follow up on this after Iced checks in. I want him to take a hard stance on this - aka I'm not going to lead it (yet). I'll comment after.

[powerofdeath]

If ika has a problem with my jokey attitude towards him I invite him to say so and I'll back off and respect that. He has made no such comment however and I figure he's brushing it off as nothing since he's not said anything.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63704

My last completed game, I have 53 post in there. I died n1.

Toadette if you hate me so much I am more then happy to replace out and let someone else take it


You were saying toadette?

[RLVG]

Choo choo, train to work.
THE WIFI IS SHIT



Let's see... They're scummy. Very subtle rolehunt. Good vig target.

[powerofdeath]

So so you want a random lynch, I find this to actually be an anti town post, you want to make it so scum can gain a chance to kill more people with having a big possibility to hit town. That being said, if you are not opposed to be against my train, why start it in the first place, with that said, with the amount of votes that was placed on me, I would of said Calix is a good scum to think about.

first protown post this entire game

calix

[ika]

youre forgetting that this is just a game, ika is a living breathing person outside of this game who have feeling and sexual fantasy about one girl somewhere in the world

my point is, youre encouraging him to lurk

And pod this is severely uncalled for. The later part really ticks me off mostly cus I'm not like that. I don't do fantasy over someone I do not know

[powerofdeath]

I'll follow up on this after Iced checks in. I want him to take a hard stance on this - aka I'm not going to lead it (yet). I'll comment after.

what does Iced have to do with anything? i find it extremely odd that youre including iced in this for some reasons

[powerofdeath]

And pod this is severely uncalled for. The later part really ticks me off mostly cus I'm not like that. I don't do fantasy over someone I do not know

sorry

[Toadette]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63704

My last completed game, I have 53 post in there. I died n1.

Toadette if you hate me so much I am more then happy to replace out and let someone else take it

I don't hate you. I'm sorry I bothered you. It won't happen again.

[RLVG]

And don't replace, Ika. I like that you're in the same games that I am.

[ika]

And this is why I'm going to hate the game......

Toadette hats my guts, and pod thinks it's amusing to make a joke about my lack of love life....

Sigh anyway forg can be town right now

Pedit: its fine overall pod it's just a very easy trigger for me

@toad: it's fine, like I said I already get enough hate irl and on other sites... So adding fuel to the fire does not help joking or not, I took it you were joking but when you don't do proper research on my post counts in games I will get peeved

[ika]

Crap rlvg is budding me now

[Mikecall]

And don't replace, Ika. I like that you're in the same games that I am.

I know, keeping ika is nice addition. Toadette, how could you.

[RLVG]

Codeword: sixteenth to tenth ratio comeback cockblock.

[ika]

Mike stop, she aplogized no need to further it

[Frog]

what does Iced have to do with anything? i find it extremely odd that youre including iced in this for some reasons

I find it odd that you're not including Ice in on this, especially since you called him out for being a sheep. Iced will be the key to EVERYTHING.

[ika]

I swear if this game becomes Boilded down to "were my emotions/feelings hurt" I'm gonna be really pissed.


Ok I am sleeping before my tired becomes an outlet for anger

[RLVG]

Crap rlvg is budding me now

I buddy friends like my Fridays.

[Toadette]

And this is why I'm going to hate the game......

Toadette hats my guts, and pod thinks it's amusing to make a joke about my lack of love life....

Sigh anyway forg can be town right now

Pedit: its fine overall pod it's just a very easy trigger for me

@toad: it's fine, like I said I already get enough hate irl and on other sites... So adding fuel to the fire does not help joking or not, I took it you were joking but when you don't do proper research on my post counts in games I will get peeved

Obviously I exaggerated but I will back off since the effect was not what I intended. It was a low blow meant for cheap laughs. Again I'm sorry.

[RLVG]

Topics to discuss : why Frog ain't sexy but scummy.

[Toadette]

Topics to discuss : why Frog ain't sexy but scummy.

Are you just calling him scummy because he put you on his short list?

[RLVG]

Are you just calling him scummy because he put you on his short list?

No. I voted him ages ago for a reason.

[RLVG]

Choo choo stops, heading to work on foot.

[Frog]

Topics to discuss : why Frog ain't sexy but scummy.

These are good topics. But I dislike how no one talks about my sexual fantasies so far. :'(

[Toadette]

No. I voted him ages ago for a reason.

Lol so he's calling you scummy for RVSing him then?

[Frog]

Lol so he's calling you scummy for RVSing him then?

Yeah, RLVG voted me first. I just rechecked. Lol. My read on him has nothing to do with his random vote. He basically throws a vote on me, doesn't explain why, and asks for other people to comment in a way that agrees with him. Lol. Most people have town-read me, so I don't really know what RLVG is getting at.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Dayum, i leave for only a couple of hours and everything blows up :o

A'ight so, il be honest, ive only played a few games on this community, and observed a few more than that, and I still dont understand the attempted reads on day 1 conversations. Nobody has any obligation to make an legitimate claims, or even play to their card descriptions, its just a troll fest, sure you can gauge their later play, but voting on people d1 seems like a waste.

At this point youre like "oh wait Iced, you voted on a bitch d1, you fucking scrub", and you'd be right, in my observations, these d1 straight up lynches never follow through, and as having nothing to contribute this first day, I thought id just join in on the fun (sheep).


I recognize this... Calix gave a solid defense. I want to hear from Iced_Monopoly on whether or not he would defend his current vote, why, and whether he would place his vote elsewhere.

That should address your question frog, there also seem to be some interest in me by frog addressed by other players, but im sleepy and dont want to go searching for quotes. Frog n I have a lil history, I doubt anything will come from it, he's just prolly keeping an eye on me, nothing too exciting. Il withdraw my vote from mikecall soon enough, in the meantime, im just lurking, reading, watching, and occasionally posting to hit my 5 post count. at least until this day is through.

xoxox Iced

[Toadette]

Yeah, RLVG voted me first. I just rechecked. Lol. My read on him has nothing to do with his random vote. He basically throws a vote on me, doesn't explain why, and asks for other people to comment in a way that agrees with him. Lol. Most people have town-read me, so I don't really know what RLVG is getting at.

Where's this "most people have town read me" dealio coming from? I heard if you say something over and over people will begin to believe it.

[Toadette]

Last post by Iced is a 100% scum post.

Pile on.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Ye boi, 100% scum, pile on :3

Also 5 post hit, I shall return after a nap :3

[RLVG]

Yeah, RLVG voted me first. I just rechecked. Lol. My read on him has nothing to do with his random vote. He basically throws a vote on me, doesn't explain why, and asks for other people to comment in a way that agrees with him. Lol. Most people have town-read me, so I don't really know what RLVG is getting at.

WIFOM.

You're scummy.

[Frog]

Dayum, i leave for only a couple of hours and everything blows up :o

A'ight so, il be honest, ive only played a few games on this community, and observed a few more than that, and I still dont understand the attempted reads on day 1 conversations. Nobody has any obligation to make an legitimate claims, or even play to their card descriptions, its just a troll fest, sure you can gauge their later play, but voting on people d1 seems like a waste.

At this point youre like "oh wait Iced, you voted on a bitch d1, you fucking scrub", and you'd be right, in my observations, these d1 straight up lynches never follow through, and as having nothing to contribute this first day, I thought id just join in on the fun (sheep).



That should address your question frog, there also seem to be some interest in me by frog addressed by other players, but im sleepy and dont want to go searching for quotes. Frog n I have a lil history, I doubt anything will come from it, he's just prolly keeping an eye on me, nothing too exciting. Il withdraw my vote from mikecall soon enough, in the meantime, im just lurking, reading, watching, and occasionally posting to hit my 5 post count. at least until this day is through.

xoxox Iced

Based on reads of what people perceive of PoD, would you vote to lynch PoD? Also, what history? ??? We're playing survivor together - have we played any other games?

[Mikecall]

So the votes are as follows now
Mikecall (3 [L-4): Calix, Iced Momopoly, Frog
Calix (2 [L-5): Powerofdeath, Mikecall
powerofdeath (1 [L-5): Yukiraka Oni
Frog (1 [L-6) : RLVG
Iced Monopoly (1 [L-6): Toadette

[RLVG]

So the votes are as follows now
Mikecall (3 [L-4): Calix, Iced Momopoly, Frog
Calix (2 [L-5): Powerofdeath, Mikecall
powerofdeath (1 [L-5): Yukiraka Oni
Frog (1 [L-6) : RLVG
Iced Monopoly (1 [L-6): Toadette

Implying we're too stupid to check for ourselves.

[Frog]

Where's this "most people have town read me" dealio coming from? I heard if you say something over and over people will begin to believe it.

Lol, you're right. Just reread. So far only you seem to have agreed with my logic so far, and Calix has a slight town read on me.

[Mikecall]

Dayum, i leave for only a couple of hours and everything blows up :o

A'ight so, il be honest, ive only played a few games on this community, and observed a few more than that, and I still dont understand the attempted reads on day 1 conversations. Nobody has any obligation to make an legitimate claims, or even play to their card descriptions, its just a troll fest, sure you can gauge their later play, but voting on people d1 seems like a waste.

At this point youre like "oh wait Iced, you voted on a bitch d1, you fucking scrub", and you'd be right, in my observations, these d1 straight up lynches never follow through, and as having nothing to contribute this first day, I thought id just join in on the fun (sheep).



That should address your question frog, there also seem to be some interest in me by frog addressed by other players, but im sleepy and dont want to go searching for quotes. Frog n I have a lil history, I doubt anything will come from it, he's just prolly keeping an eye on me, nothing too exciting. Il withdraw my vote from mikecall soon enough, in the meantime, im just lurking, reading, watching, and occasionally posting to hit my 5 post count. at least until this day is through.

xoxox Iced

Very scum post indeed, the 5 post limit is supposed to be a guideline into the amount of posts that you should be contributing every day, you seem that voting people on day 1 is also a waste? You should know that voting people day 1 is a nice way for them to contribute information under pressure if they are acting very strange, like this post as a general is very scum listed indeed. You and Calix are both on my top suspicions for being scum, even if your post generally doesn't have any reasoning behind putting a lynch train over my head.

[Toadette]

Implying we're too stupid to check for ourselves.

Wtf. Vote counts are helpful when rereading and you see votes all over the place.

[Mikecall]

Implying we're too stupid to check for ourselves.

I aint saying that your stupid or anything, I am just wanting to keep a tab in case the votes do change, something to relate back to when we are trying to find consistent vote patterns with town.

[Frog]

WIFOM.

You're scummy.

I don't see how WIFOM is applicable in this scenario at all. You vote me because you think I'm bussing a teammate. I voted Mikecall because I believe he was being early bussed on a lynch unlikely to happen (RVS vote lynch). So if you agree that Mikecall is being bussed, then vote Mikecall to confirm. 0_o

I voted you because you suggested an absurd scenario supporting random voting - I point out how ridiculous and anti-town it would be.

You suggest not reading role cards - I point out how ridiculous and anti-town that would be, not to mention not in the spirit of the game.

My willingness to vote on you isn't based on OMGUS, there is true purpose which I've outlined before, and have again just here.

[Frog]

Last post by Iced is a 100% scum post.

Pile on.

I want to know if Iced is intending to vote PoD or not before I make that call.

[Mikecall]

I don't see how WIFOM is applicable in this scenario at all. You vote me because you think I'm bussing a teammate. I voted Mikecall because I believe he was being early bussed on a lynch unlikely to happen (RVS vote lynch). So if you agree that Mikecall is being bussed, then vote Mikecall to confirm. 0_o

I voted you because you suggested an absurd scenario supporting random voting - I point out how ridiculous and anti-town it would be.

You suggest not reading role cards - I point out how ridiculous and anti-town that would be, not to mention not in the spirit of the game.

My willingness to vote on you isn't based on OMGUS, there is true purpose which I've outlined before, and have again just here.

Seems like one legit post for why voting me is actually considered to be a good choice.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Apparently im not getting any rest, its hot af. A'ight so just so we're clear, im not voting anyone to lynch day 1. Its absurd as far as im concerned, as previously explained in my recent post. I also only wanted to got for my 5 post limit for this day because as far as I can see, there is nothing to be gained from this day by establishing some baseline behaviours for players, which are likely to be overturned/re-evaluated anyways.

[Frog]

Apparently im not getting any rest, its hot af. A'ight so just so we're clear, im not voting anyone to lynch day 1. Its absurd as far as im concerned, as previously explained in my recent post. I also only wanted to got for my 5 post limit for this day because as far as I can see, there is nothing to be gained from this day by establishing some baseline behaviours for players, which are likely to be overturned/re-evaluated anyways.

Can you please give your thoughts on PoD at least?

[Mikecall]

Apparently im not getting any rest, its hot af. A'ight so just so we're clear, im not voting anyone to lynch day 1. Its absurd as far as im concerned, as previously explained in my recent post. I also only wanted to got for my 5 post limit for this day because as far as I can see, there is nothing to be gained from this day by establishing some baseline behaviours for players, which are likely to be overturned/re-evaluated anyways.

However, day 1 is just like any other day, you can pressure people to make claims, contribute chat to actually make yourself known to town, you can't say that day 1 is a, "Useless day", even when we don't have information to guide us onto a proper lynch, we do have the ability to find out who is plain old scum and who isn't.

[RLVG]

I never suggested to not read rolecards, lol.
I read mine, so I get to decide what to do with that information.

[Mikecall]

Can you please give your thoughts on PoD at least?

So frog, what are your thoughts on these posts today?

[Iced_Monopoly]

ahh, cant even edit, my previous post had some horrible spelling/grammar errors.

I have nothing on PoD, or anyone for this first day. Like I said, im ignoring every claim, and post from today until I can base it against actions made when data is available, ie after first night. Today is a shit show that can only be rated against information drawn from days where data was obtainable the previous night.

[RLVG]

TDL is just as scummy, JSYK.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Anyone revealing obvious scum play on d1 deserves to be voted out, but this isnt sc2 mafia, this is forum mafia, those kinds of slips just wont happen. This day is a pure baseline establishing day, at best. AS far as im concerned with my limited involvement/observations of this community.

[RLVG]

Anyone revealing obvious scum play on d1 deserves to be voted out, but this isnt sc2 mafia, this is forum mafia, those kinds of slips just wont happen. This day is a pure baseline establishing day, at best. AS far as im concerned with my limited involvement/observations of this community.

YET WE RARELY NOLYNCH HERPDERP

[Mikecall]

The 1 post scumness, we always see where that goes, TDL seems depressed with the role I assume he got.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Just so we can clear up my status,

inb4 I was 'bussing, or whatever else, Im not that deep for this game, I calls em like I sees 'em.

[RLVG]

The 1 post scumness, we always see where that goes, TDL seems depressed with the role I assume he got.

That's only doctor and jester.

[Mikecall]

The 1 post scumness, we always see where that goes, TDL seems depressed with the role I assume he got.

To add, I don't class him as potential scum, from 1 post of information.

[RLVG]

Just so we can clear up my status,

inb4 I was 'bussing, or whatever else, Im not that deep for this game, I calls em like I sees 'em.

There's also "distancing" and not just bus.

[Mikecall]

That's only doctor and jester.
Or a citizen, everyone favourite role with the power of the vote by your side.

[RLVG]

Or a citizen, everyone favourite role with the power of the vote by your side.

I've seen a hyped TDL Citizen with good play.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Yeah, theres a lot of behaviors im still yet to learn from this community that arent frequent in the sc2maf community, but I stand with what ive claimed so far, you will see more meaningful and deliberate activity from me after N1 when there is data available.

[Yukitaka Oni]

Doc on me. Mafia on me, mm and arsonists on me v)o.o)> tomorrow judge call court, Marshall reveal. Am confirmed sheriff/jailor. If I die then town suck! v(o.o(<!

[Mikecall]

I've seen a hyped TDL Citizen with good play.

Would of loved to see that.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Since analysing D1 posts is a thing apparently, (and not deflect, but to raise awareness), Yuki has only been shitposting (sorry yuki, luv yu bb :3), and contributing shit all, im already drawing my own baselines on this behaviour, but it seems like something to consider for you 'serious' d1 lynching players

[Mikecall]

Doc on me. Mafia on me, mm and arsonists on me v)o.o)> tomorrow judge call court, Marshall reveal. Am confirmed sheriff/jailor. If I die then town suck! v(o.o(<!

It would seem to have been harbouring some skills from the legend of fire.

[Mikecall]

Since analysing D1 posts is a thing apparently, (and not deflect, but to raise awareness), Yuki has only been shitposting (sorry yuki, luv yu bb :3), and contributing shit all, im already drawing my own baselines on this behaviour, but it seems like something to consider for you 'serious' d1 lynching players

Just shows the difference of forum mafia and sc2 Mafia doesn't it, everyone had to start from the beginning, not knowing the difference between different peoples styles and everything, but now, it's like a friendly brawl between the forces of good and evil, you never know who would strike first.

[Yukitaka Oni]

It would seem to have been harbouring some skills from the legend of fire.
Don't worry, my I will evolve into Marshall/Judge after I lead this town to win v)o.o)>!

[Yukitaka Oni]

Since analysing D1 posts is a thing apparently, (and not deflect, but to raise awareness), Yuki has only been shitposting (sorry yuki, luv yu bb :3), and contributing shit all, im already drawing my own baselines on this behaviour, but it seems like something to consider for you 'serious' d1 lynching players
No don't sorry me, be on me tonight instead >)o.o)>!

[Mikecall]

Don't worry, my I will evolve into Marshall/Judge after I lead this town to win v)o.o)>!
Dang, I don't want to have the forces of the Marshall Judge combo on this town, considering if the judge and the Marshall both have 2 counts of votes each.

[Mikecall]

No don't sorry me, be on me tonight instead >)o.o)>!

Yuki, the hidden town, awaiting for lurking prey so she can use that knowledge to kill anyone on sight, anyone know that kind of role?

[Yukitaka Oni]

Dang, I don't want to have the forces of the Marshall Judge combo on this town, considering if the judge and the Marshall both have 2 counts of votes each.
Without the light of the Sheriff/jailor? What will we become? - You
Free! - Me
Lie! - Firebringer
Believe! - Me
Have faith v)o.o)>.....En Taro Sheriff/Jailor....

[Iced_Monopoly]

Quick Q

Regarding the (corrupt)Journalist, does the day start 'article' feature the player's name that wrote the article. If so, does the article feature a player name chosen by the corrupt journalist if they choose to obfuscate the player name they receive a article from their targeted player?

[Iced_Monopoly]

Cant edit...

Journalist, receiving article from me after requesting me to write:
Iced says: blah blah blah

Corrupt Journalist, receiving article from me after requesting me to write:
Yuki says: blah blah blah

or is the entire process anonymous.

[Frog]

@Iced, are you going to comment on PoD's play so far?

@MikeCall - you want me to comment more than I have?

Lynch:
MikeCall
Pod

Maybe Lynch:
RLVG
Iced

Won't Lynch:
Calix

I suspect Iced, Mikecall, PoD - trio

I'm wondering if Iced would consider voting PoD, a seeming jester. A Mafia wouldn't even consider it, even though PoD has been somewhat scummy. A Town may consider it. Iced isn't even commenting on it - probably because he's afraid to misspeak.

[RLVG]

I don't see jester play from PoD.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Like I said previously, Il discuss my player opinions tomorrow after I see their play (with data) versus their d1 play.

Pressuring me at this stage, given ive already made my stance will likely result in mafia keeping me alive tonight as a viable lynch target tomorrow, or you lay off, and allow me to become a possible lynch target for today, which warrants no useful information, and sets you up for potential scum alignment. The final option lay off, let me play how i explained ill play, and see what I have to produce tomorrow, which consequently sets me up as a maf target, but is still the best opportunity for new useful information to arise.

[Iced_Monopoly]

The way I see it, the d1 lynching players are either heavy scum, looking to control early lynchings without having to comit, or weak roled players looking to take hits for tpr's. Everyone in between is going to keep relatively quiet and let the game play out till they have shit to contribute.

[Mikecall]

And frog, it can be the same for you and Calix. You defend Calix for the way he bussed me for a straight forward lynch cause of me being on? If I had to the name the team of mafia, I would say you, Calix and ice, but it's personal opinion, you guys want to warrant a lynch for lylo whereas I only want to use the vote for pressure for a claim.

[Mikecall]

Weirdly enough frog, you only say me and pod as a top lynch because we both voted Calix, for me having a reasoning behind lynching Calix and pod sheeping the vote. That is what concerns me right now. Ice may not be the top scum read, but you are becoming more of a scum.

[Iced_Monopoly]

I would say you, Calix and ice, but it's personal opinion, you guys want to warrant a lynch for lylo whereas I only want to use the vote for pressure for a claim.

Ive unvoted and said specifically I have no intentions of lynching on d1...

[Mikecall]

Also frog, mind if I can ask this, but if me, ice and pod where a triple, then why does ice have a consistent vote on me? Why did pod jump on the train I did? Doesn't really add up now does it.

[Mikecall]

Ive unvoted and said specifically I have no intentions of lynching on d1...

I know, but just trying to say personal opinion for today's top scum.

[Iced_Monopoly]

then why does ice have a consistent vote on me?

Consistency 101 - following a train because no meaningful discussions were being had, removing vote after slight discussion, being opposed to voting after continued discussions. quality definition of consistency.

[RLVG]

Vig on PoD, Det on Frog, Invest on TDL, Doc on RLVG, blacksmith on Toadette, Journalist on Mike.

[RLVG]

It's all WIFOM.

[RLVG]

Sooo guys, I figured out something.

Claiming anything is bad in this setup even in pressure.
Vote to lynch until D3.

[Frog]

RLVG, you sound like most honourable Town Leader Firebringer.

[Frog]

I love how Iced backs off of MikeCall now. I'm telling you, this RVS voting business where they had no intention of actually following through was a way of distancing themselves from their fellow scum by bussing initially and unvoting. If anything, I feel like this MikeCall flip will be the most revealing. Especially if Mike is a scum flip. It'll open it up to Iced and Pod and bussing teammates. It should also clear Calix and Myself to a lesser extent.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Youre more than welcome to continue pressure on mike, but regardless of the flip, I maintain all previously made points, and will continue to play as I previously described. I never had any intention of lynching a D1 target, I was merely looking for something to start a conversation :)

[Frog]

Youre more than welcome to continue pressure on mike, but regardless of the flip, I maintain all previously made points, and will continue to play as I previously described. I never had any intention of lynching a D1 target, I was merely looking for something to start a conversation :)

Can you explain the pros and cons of lynch - the pros and cons of no lynch.

From what I've read I don't think you've actually thought it through - overall, you appear very scummy tbh, but there could be a more obvious answer which I wouldn't want to pressure. So instead, just explain the pros and cons of lynch vs. no-lynch.

No Lynch-

Pros:

Cons:

Lynch-

Pros:

Cos:

[Iced_Monopoly]

Can you explain the pros and cons of lynch - the pros and cons of no lynch.

From what I've read I don't think you've actually thought it through - overall, you appear very scummy tbh, but there could be a more obvious answer which I wouldn't want to pressure. So instead, just explain the pros and cons of lynch vs. no-lynch.

Lynch:
Pros:
Scum have a chance to mass votes on a random town/neut.
Negs:
Town loses a role.

No Lynch:
Pros:
We dont lose a role based on 0 evidence and pretend scum hunting
Negs:
None, all lynches this day are baseless, and with town making up majority of roles, we stand to lose the most.

[Frog]

Ok Iced,

I think you're missing a few points, perhaps on purpose.

A lynch reveals information and indication of alliance on who voted whom. This gives power roles something to work off of. The current make up is 5 non-towns vs. 8 towns. If you know yourself to be town, the odds of a mislynch isn't all that high compared to a standard 2 mafia, 7 town setup. Even in those setups, it's preferred to lynch D1.

A no lynch benefits the town in that there is no mislynch, but assuming there are no town killings, then Mafia and scum will benefit most because they don't NEED to lynch AT ALL - they can simply perform night killings and let it float out until they win.

The only REAL positive of a no-lynch is enabling a possible jailor to perform a jail, of course, mafia also has the ability kidnap - so that's not actually a pro.

For more information on WHY D1 matters, and WHY a D1 lynch is most beneficial to town, i'll refer you to this:
http://www.debate.org/debates/Mafia-Debate-Behavioral-Analysis-On-D1/1/

Please don't modkill me for this link. It's 100% informational.

[Frog]

FYI - there are no jailors or kidnappers in this setup.

[AppleyNO]

http://www.debate.org/debates/Mafia-Debate-Behavioral-Analysis-On-D1/1/

Judge, I'm telling you, the Negative team continues to try and frame the round with behavioral analytics! Don't believe it! The only framework that should be considered during this round is human rights. The team that protects human rights the most should win the round, and that team is the Affirmative team. Vote Affirmative on human rights.

Sorry I actually policy debate xD

[RLVG]

Pro-NL D1:
Why lynch without clues and facts? No mislynch on PR.
Scum doesn't know game based on flip. Higher scum vs scum accidents that way.

[RLVG]

Appley's totally up for some philanthropy.

[AppleyNO]

Quick Q

Regarding the (corrupt)Journalist, does the day start 'article' feature the player's name that wrote the article. If so, does the article feature a player name chosen by the corrupt journalist if they choose to obfuscate the player name they receive a article from their targeted player?
No names are provided. It will appear as "An Article has been posted!"

You can view the current FM for an example.

[RLVG]

1v1 has neutral over mafia. If Mafia 1v1 a Jester or Executor, do mafia lose?

[AppleyNO]

Appley's totally up for some philanthropy.
hahahahahahah

You know the topic this year in the United States is actually

Resolved: The United States Federal Government should substantially curtail its domestic surveillance.

Our Affirmative case ends embassy spying in the US, like on the EU embassy.

Okay I've talked enough back to the game!

[AppleyNO]

1v1 has neutral over mafia. If Mafia 1v1 a Jester or Executor, do mafia lose?
The Mafia will have already met their win condition. They do not need to beat a Jester or Executioner.

A more indepth 1v1 win con tie breaker is -

Arsonist/Mass Murderers -> Mafia -> Town
Jester
Executioner
Amnesiac

The game ends when either an Arsonist, Mass Murderer, the Mafia, or the Town meet their win condition. Hopefully that clears that up.

[Zekrom2802]

I've just read the whole thread and... I am still not allowed to speak in R'lyehian... Anways, I'm unsure on which train I should jump...

[Iced_Monopoly]

A lynch reveals information and indication of alliance on who voted whom. This gives power roles something to work off of. The current make up is 5 non-towns vs. 8 towns. If you know yourself to be town, the odds of a mislynch isn't all that high compared to a standard 2 mafia, 7 town setup. Even in those setups, it's preferred to lynch D1.

This is still where 3 mafia are alive and aligned, there is a high probability of town being lynched, and given the other town folk have no information to work with and are likely to sheep ( as already see at the start of this day), mafia are the only ones to benefit from a D1 lynch

[Toadette]

Do we have to have this conversation every time? Really?

No lynching ALWAYS benefits scum.

Mikecall

Sorry Mike but I think Frog has a point.

[Calix]

How are mafia the only ones to benefit from a lynch when it gives town information on potential buddying, distancing, bussing, role/ alignment, voting patterns/ reasoning and other general reactions to a lynch? Do you consider all of that to be useless?

I am 100% on Toadette's side with lynching. Regardless of my alignment, I always push for Day 1 lynches. End of story.

The reason I voted Mikecall is because he was online, not because I have a 'grudge' against him (wouldn't make sense as I don't know him) and I wanted to start off the game by pressuring someone. This would - naturally - lead to information by how he reacted to the vote. The fact that he was, as I recall, the only person I could see online meant that he would be more likely to respond quickly and get a discussion going sooner. Just by starting off the game with a vote, I discovered two sheep votes. That's infinitely better than just going 'hai guyz' or trolling.

If I had voted someone like Suntax, on the other hand, the chances of him actually responding at all would have been slim and time would have been wasted. This is obvious, so the fact that I have to explain this to Mikecall/ POD when they are experienced players strikes me as suspicious as I would assume they would already know this.

As it stands, my vote started out as a generic pressure vote to get the game going. The fact that Mikecall's main reaction was to call me scummy for wanting information and then voted me largely because I voted him (correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that class as OMGUS?) makes me think I lucked onto a scum Day 1.

Favourite comments include his claim that 'all 3 mafia voted him at once' (which strikes me as needlessly arrogant); the accusation that I want a 'random lynch' (I'm voting to get information and see reactions - he is failing at that at the moment); his post at Iced where he claims day 1 votes are a valid way of getting information...even though when I did exactly that, he voted me (hypocrisy).

Mike, if you want to help your town cred, I'd suggest posting some reads that DON'T revolve around me (much as I'm flattered ;D). Since you're currently up for the lynch, I don't consider this optional for you. Any old Townie McTownison can manage that, eh?

Zekrom and Toadette, I see you're reading, so you can do the same as you haven't posted any detailed posts.

Actually, you know what this game could do with? Some town reads of the active players. I'll be posting an overview of mine in a few hours, I suggest everyone does the same.

[Suntax]

Ah hello comrades it seems like shit is already going down in general my thoughts on a day 1 lynch are transferred between yes and no as there are pros and cons for both but at this momemt I think we should have a lynch day since we have the majority even if we lose a town we still have majority even if it's a lower majority but in a case we could kill a scrub.
to regards on who were voting we should pressure the non contributors or the heavy but scummy contributors but in General we should watch out for wifom in low contributors and General sleeping,bussing and buddying who are usually scrub trying to keep light off them.

[Calix]

Ah hello comrades it seems like shit is already going down in general my thoughts on a day 1 lynch are transferred between yes and no as there are pros and cons for both but at this momemt I think we should have a lynch day since we have the majority even if we lose a town we still have majority even if it's a lower majority but in a case we could kill a scrub.
to regards on who were voting we should pressure the non contributors or the heavy but scummy contributors but in General we should watch out for wifom in low contributors and General sleeping,bussing and buddying who are usually scrub trying to keep light off them.

Do you have a list of people who would - in your eyes - fall under the categories you listed? Your thoughts would be much appreciated.

[Mikecall]

Do you have a list of people who would - in your eyes - fall under the categories you listed? Your thoughts would be much appreciated.

There can only be 2 or scenarios I can think off which would happen if I got lynched
You would start the game with a possibility of 2 or more deaths, if there was a mass murderer and the mafia kill being presented, this would cause us to lose 3 townies, or 1 neutral/Mafia and 2 towns straight away
Not getting me lynched would result in the town being in a more powerful position, having 1 or more towns killed, but we would know what type of style everyone is playing, also can tell us who contributed to the chat and who doesn't.

[Mikecall]

The reasoning I targeted you Calix was because you started the bus train on me, for the poor case of saying, oh he was online, let's get him. If I wasn't online, what would have done? Wait for me to be on so you can start the train on me?
But on another note, what I am saying is, maybe you are not Mafia, but I didn't like he people who steeped onto me, just smelt of scum written over it.

[Mikecall]

The people who sheeped onto me. Sorry for that, stupid autocorrect.

[Suntax]

In General yuki has had little to no contribution during the time along with zephox whtever his name is has had quite a low contribution rate
on the the other side rlvg and ika have contributed but to me give off a scummy vibes and in the case of icee he has said some scummy thongs such as the thoughts on no day one lynch but in any case everyone else gives off a neutral vibe to me

Edit-mikecall has a scummy argument on the idea of the sheep vote on him as in the end it was not going to follow through it was all a case of checking in for him and pressure on day 1 to find what his thoughts were.

[Calix]

You're assuming that the Mass Murderer is a) in the game and b) competent enough to kill a town Night 1. I'm not so convinced that Mass Murderer will kill if he exists, since the only obvious target is POD in my eyes.

Hypothetically speaking, let's say we don't end up lynching you. Voting you is still a valid way of making you reveal information in order to inform PTRs, especially as the odds of you being scum are 5/13 and the number of pro-town things you have done can be counted on one hand.

Do you agree to post a list of your reads with reasoning? I'd prefer not to lynch a town and you're not my only suspect, so if you could post more of your thoughts, you could convince others to change their votes away from you, eh? There's still 16 or so hours left if I recall the day ending time correctly.

If you weren't online, I would have waited until someone from this game was online and vote them to get a reaction. I was not expecting to keep my vote on you as long as I have and I'm slightly irritated that my vote was wasted in this way. You're operating under the impression that I want you - and only you - lynched. That only applies if you continue to act in a scummy fashion.

I agree that Iced/ POD's sheep-voting is in poor taste. You can imagine my surprise when I woke up to see such an obvious scum tactic performed by two players.

Suntax, if you had to vote for anyone today, who would you pick and why? Also, if you had to pick 3 towns at this moment in time, who would you pick and why?

[Calix]

Wait, speaking of POD and Mass Murderers, I wonder if POD is actually a Mass Murderer who is trying to draw in investigative roles to kill. Mass Murderers can self-target, so it's a possibility. It would explain his unusually abrasive posts.

Host, if nobody visits the Mass Murderer's target, what would happen? Would they only kill the target or would they not kill at all?

[Mikecall]

You're assuming that the Mass Murderer is a) in the game and b) competent enough to kill a town Night 1. I'm not so convinced that Mass Murderer will kill if he exists, since the only obvious target is POD in my eyes.

Hypothetically speaking, let's say we don't end up lynching you. Voting you is still a valid way of making you reveal information in order to inform PTRs, especially as the odds of you being scum are 5/13 and the number of pro-town things you have done can be counted on one hand.

Do you agree to post a list of your reads with reasoning? I'd prefer not to lynch a town and you're not my only suspect, so if you could post more of your thoughts, you could convince others to change their votes away from you, eh? There's still 16 or so hours left if I recall the day ending time correctly.

If you weren't online, I would have waited until someone from this game was online and vote them to get a reaction. I was not expecting to keep my vote on you as long as I have and I'm slightly irritated that my vote was wasted in this way. You're operating under the impression that I want you - and only you - lynched. That only applies if you continue to act in a scummy fashion.

I agree that Iced/ POD's sheep-voting is in poor taste. You can imagine my surprise when I woke up to see such an obvious scum tactic performed by two players.

Suntax, if you had to vote for anyone today, who would you pick and why? Also, if you had to pick 3 towns at this moment in time, who would you pick and why?

fair enough it's your readings, the only reason I actually was so focuses into the train was because from what you said in your 5th paragraph with both iced and pod randomly sheeping me which really made me question why they would do that, however, even when you started that specific vote on me, that really made me question on your reasoning behind it, even if I didn't like how they approached it, both iced and pod if given a chance, would of followed your bussed vote anyways, even if I wasn't online to see it.

With the mass murderer business, I am just assuming that if we did have a mass murderer for example, we would end up with more deaths than we could of done. I was only showing that using the day for pressure and maybe doing a lynch if he felt like he was too scum to be that specific role, it would generalise on what roles are possible and confirming it from others.

[Mikecall]

How are mafia the only ones to benefit from a lynch when it gives town information on potential buddying, distancing, bussing, role/ alignment, voting patterns/ reasoning and other general reactions to a lynch? Do you consider all of that to be useless?

I am 100% on Toadette's side with lynching. Regardless of my alignment, I always push for Day 1 lynches. End of story.

The reason I voted Mikecall is because he was online, not because I have a 'grudge' against him (wouldn't make sense as I don't know him) and I wanted to start off the game by pressuring someone. This would - naturally - lead to information by how he reacted to the vote. The fact that he was, as I recall, the only person I could see online meant that he would be more likely to respond quickly and get a discussion going sooner. Just by starting off the game with a vote, I discovered two sheep votes. That's infinitely better than just going 'hai guyz' or trolling.

If I had voted someone like Suntax, on the other hand, the chances of him actually responding at all would have been slim and time would have been wasted. This is obvious, so the fact that I have to explain this to Mikecall/ POD when they are experienced players strikes me as suspicious as I would assume they would already know this.

As it stands, my vote started out as a generic pressure vote to get the game going. The fact that Mikecall's main reaction was to call me scummy for wanting information and then voted me largely because I voted him (correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that class as OMGUS?) makes me think I lucked onto a scum Day 1.

Favourite comments include his claim that 'all 3 mafia voted him at once' (which strikes me as needlessly arrogant); the accusation that I want a 'random lynch' (I'm voting to get information and see reactions - he is failing at that at the moment); his post at Iced where he claims day 1 votes are a valid way of getting information...even though when I did exactly that, he voted me (hypocrisy).

Mike, if you want to help your town cred, I'd suggest posting some reads that DON'T revolve around me (much as I'm flattered ;D). Since you're currently up for the lynch, I don't consider this optional for you. Any old Townie McTownison can manage that, eh?

Zekrom and Toadette, I see you're reading, so you can do the same as you haven't posted any detailed posts.

Actually, you know what this game could do with? Some town reads of the active players. I'll be posting an overview of mine in a few hours, I suggest everyone does the same.

But most of what you said, I agree.

[Calix]

fair enough it's your readings, the only reason I actually was so focuses into the train was because from what you said in your 5th paragraph with both iced and pod randomly sheeping me which really made me question why they would do that, however, even when you started that specific vote on me, that really made me question on your reasoning behind it, even if I didn't like how they approached it, both iced and pod if given a chance, would of followed your bussed vote anyways, even if I wasn't online to see it.

With the mass murderer business, I am just assuming that if we did have a mass murderer for example, we would end up with more deaths than we could of done. I was only showing that using the day for pressure and maybe doing a lynch if he felt like he was too scum to be that specific role, it would generalise on what roles are possible and confirming it from others.

Before I answer this post, allow me to put this question in a different colour: Do you agree to post your reads?

You are avoiding this question with every post and while I can think of a litany of reasons as to why, none of them are pro-town.

Your reasoning for not lynching you is generic and applies to every player here. Why shouldn't we lynch YOU? Why do we need YOU? If you are town, why are you allowing the discussion to be centered around YOU when your objective is to find scum? Your behaviour is the opposite of what a town should be doing. Furthermore, you claim you don't want to lynch because of the kills...but that applies for every night. Using the logic of 'but the mafia and MM might kill 3 towns' we wouldn't ever lynch. Today is actually the second-best time to lynch (second only to the 2nd day in my opinion) because it's when every town can contribute.

I know you've unvoted me now, but if you really didn't want a lynch, why would you vote me in the first place instead of just questioning me first?

I'm not sure what your point is with your last sentence; could you clarify please?

[Yukitaka Oni]

Well. Skip day 1

Doc on me

[Yukitaka Oni]

In General yuki has had little to no contribution during the time along with zephox whtever his name is has had quite a low contribution rate
on the the other side rlvg and ika have contributed but to me give off a scummy vibes and in the case of icee he has said some scummy thongs such as the thoughts on no day one lynch but in any case everyone else gives off a neutral vibe to me

Edit-mikecall has a scummy argument on the idea of the sheep vote on him as in the end it was not going to follow through it was all a case of checking in for him and pressure on day 1 to find what his thoughts were.
Am town confirmed c)o.o)c

[Calix]

Well. Skip day 1

Doc on me

Do you have anything of value to contribute? This post almost takes the prize for being the most useless post this game has seen. I'd prefer your emoticons to skipping a lynch day and giving absolutely no reads whatsoever.

[Yukitaka Oni]

Do you have anything of value to contribute? This post almost takes the prize for being the most useless post this game has seen. I'd prefer your emoticons to skipping a lynch day and giving absolutely no reads whatsoever.
It's ok. Just skip with me v(o.o(< the game start day 2

[Mikecall]

Well now. That only answers the question, why only around me, why would I have so much fond of wanting to find out, well who knows, maybe there is a bigger scheme for lynching me that you wouldn't know about, maybe my posts are all over the place, but do they piece together to make a clearer picture, maybe I must try and make you understand what I was trying to achieve from this,

Ever since the first post to now, I have been keeping a close eye on what you have been posting and what you are trying to get across, same with pod and ice, you 3 caught my eye since the lynch on me was to allow the distancing the other members, so I wanted to see how much attention that I was trying to get across just so I can tell who has been voting me and what accusations they had, and from this, you, frog, ice, pod have really fell into a trap. A scum trap I would of said,

But ever since the latest posts you where saying before, you where questioning my decisions and tried to prove yourself to be pro town. It also wanted me to show how pod would follow any lynch, which shows him being an pro active sheep for a town. Iced on the other hand, played a scum straight off the bat, saying he would be more active during the second day and this day for being a random lynch.

[Mikecall]

Anyways, now I bet here comes the scum post, but maybe rechecking those posts, maybe you might understand, but then again, maybe it's only me who actually thinks this actually might be a semi decent tactic, but oh well, seems it would function.

[Mikecall]

To think, Calix thinks me being arrogant is a way of saying, OMGUS right into my face, which really I feel like is a very bad provoking way of trying to get mislead onto myself.

[Yukitaka Oni]

Lead on day 2. Day 1 is useless v)o.o)>

[Calix]

Well now. That only answers the question, why only around me, why would I have so much fond of wanting to find out, well who knows, maybe there is a bigger scheme for lynching me that you wouldn't know about, maybe my posts are all over the place, but do they piece together to make a clearer picture, maybe I must try and make you understand what I was trying to achieve from this,

Ever since the first post to now, I have been keeping a close eye on what you have been posting and what you are trying to get across, same with pod and ice, you 3 caught my eye since the lynch on me was to allow the distancing the other members, so I wanted to see how much attention that I was trying to get across just so I can tell who has been voting me and what accusations they had, and from this, you, frog, ice, pod have really fell into a trap. A scum trap I would of said,

But ever since the latest posts you where saying before, you where questioning my decisions and tried to prove yourself to be pro town. It also wanted me to show how pod would follow any lynch, which shows him being an pro active sheep for a town. Iced on the other hand, played a scum straight off the bat, saying he would be more active during the second day and this day for being a random lynch.

Alright, you are officially NOT giving any reads on any of the other 11 players, not even a list. Really, what do you have to gain from that if you are town? Tunneling four players with no consideration for the other players is a terrible strategy.

Oh god, you're honestly claiming that this was all a huge gambit...on Day 1? Really now? I've had it up to my eyeballs with POD's potential gambiting, I don't need this bullshit on top of that.

Just as an aside, I hate big, fancy gambits with a burning passion. They rarely help out town and just enable scum, as you are proving right now. So no, my initial impressions of this 'tactic' are that it's utter bollocks.

But go on, do tell us how you have somehow discovered not one, but FOUR scum with this elite-tier gambit.

I will concede that you have been paying particular attention to POD, Frog and I (speaking of Frog, that's another scab I've yet to deal with), so I'd like to see your conclusions from that.

Mikecall, there is no universe in which the line of thought 'all 3 scum outed themselves to get rid of me' is not said in an incredibly pompous and self-involved way.

[Calix]

It's ok. Just skip with me v(o.o(< the game start day 2

So you admit that you're using Day 1 as a trolling day. I think I pulled a stitch from how droll that is.

In any case, it's good to have that confirmed.

[Mikecall]

Are you sure with that last point that it happened? I remember a week ago, yeah, I know, a week, such a long time, that I managed to spot the Mafia through a guilty vote that happened to me before, even if I was trolling and not paying attention, it happened and was actually surprised by the outcome, so don't think it's out of the universe that it won't be able to happen. Because in my eyes, it's actually possible.

[Mikecall]

Oh well, the gambit town always tries and fails, lovely.

[Calix]

Are you sure with that last point that it happened? I remember a week ago, yeah, I know, a week, such a long time, that I managed to spot the Mafia through a guilty vote that happened to me before, even if I was trolling and not paying attention, it happened and was actually surprised by the outcome, so don't think it's out of the universe that it won't be able to happen. Because in my eyes, it's actually possible.

I regret to inform you that your post does not make much sense, seeing as you are trying to accuse four players, not one. Claiming that the entire mafia would vote you is arrogance, simple as that. Maybe one of your mafia members is on the train and your repeated assertions that there's a scum on the train is your way of trying to bus one of them, but that's a fleeting thought - how would you respond?

Furthermore, your insinuation that I'm disregarding votes entirely is inaccurate.

I'm not sure why you have ignored the rest of my post just to respond to a side comment I made. It's almost like you're scared of making a scum slip if you try to make detailed, coherent responses to my questions.

If you're not going to give any more information than a bunch of implications, then that's that as far as lynching will go.

[Calix]

*That the entire mafia would vote you simultaneously is arrogance

Although I doubt that all 3 members would jump on a lynch train the first chance they get. Variations in playing style make this unlikely.

[Mikecall]

Oh well, once you actually know what role I am, make sure you get Calix for me, I am betting everything that she is Mafia for a sure, but oh well, you won't let me find out tonight anyways.

[Mikecall]

And Calix, if you know Mafia so much ,you should know what role I am soft claiming, if not claiming,

[Mikecall]

And yeah, yeah, just try and show me that I am scum and everything, and showing I am OMGUS scenario, because that's what you are blatantly been showing in your posts, oh, you got nothing of value to the town, your ignorance and tolerance are nothing to be town, you are an easy target to be lynched cause of your inability to convince town, yeah I know what you are doing, you are trying to act pro town so you can make it so you can make the vote lead one way or another, yeah I have seen that before.

[Calix]

And Calix, if you know Mafia so much ,you should know what role I am soft claiming, if not claiming,

You do realise that this is my first game, right? I hate to bang on about this, but it seems like the length of my posts has made me look more of a professional player than I actually am.

If you're going to accuse me of being mafia, could you possibly provide more evidence than 'she voted me first thing, must be scum' please? What have I said that can be considered scummy? I will welcome an ISO on me, so take your best shot.

Why would I put words into your mouth as to what role you are? You're the one defending yourself here, don't expect me to help you when you've ignored my suggestion of POSTING READS TO THE TOWN, AKA, THE EASIEST WAY OF HELPING TOWN EVER. How do I know you won't just latch onto what I think as your official claim?

And your last post? You should be a comedian because it's hilarious. You're blaming me...for poking holes in your own shit defense. LMAO, what do I even say to that? 'sorree 4 tryin 2 determine wherever U R scum or not so lemme give u a pass'

[Calix]

By the way, you claim you've been closely analysing my posts -snerk-

Surely you must have a good indicator of my own role, no?

[Mikecall]

Anyways going of for now, probably going to write my will since nobody Iant going to listen to me anyways.

[Mikecall]

Yeah, I know, weird right, giving up, come on now Calix, you really think acting stupid or not even trying would generate results, lovely.

[Mikecall]

And if your thinking, I am talking about myself, not you,

[Calix]

I don't see why you can't just, I don't know, post your Last Will or any kind of insight into the other players before we lynch you.

On the bright side, the other players have a better idea of my posting style and thoughts and such, so Page 5 isn't entirely useless.

[Calix]

*I said 'Page 5' because I've changed the number of posts viewed per page. It's probably like, page 30 or something for those who see 25 posts per page.

[Zekrom2802]

In General yuki has had little to no contribution during the time along with zephox whtever his name is has had quite a low contribution rate

"Zephox", well, close enough :p I wonder why Mike suddenly takes offense, he is basically saying: "Just lynch me and lynch Calix after I flipped town. It doesn't matter what I'm saying anyways".

[Yukitaka Oni]

Get the popcorn v)o.o)^ we watch mike vs calix

[Zekrom2802]

*I said 'Page 5' because I've changed the number of posts viewed per page. It's probably like, page 30 or something for those who see 25 posts per page.

Page 12, to be exactly.

[Yukitaka Oni]

"Zephox", well, close enough :p I wonder why Mike suddenly takes offense, he is basically saying: "Just lynch me and lynch Calix after I flipped town. It doesn't matter what I'm saying anyways".
Plot twist: Jester

[Zekrom2802]

Plot twist: Jester

Nah, he is of course my scum partner, like pod said at the start of the day!


Teld is probably neutral. Based on the calculation of 84 suns and the square root of a football field.

Frog and Calix are very strong town. I predict that scums will probably target them night 1 or 2.

RLVG will be active anti town for various reasons based on algorithms by Teld.

Yukitaka Oni is a power role that is trying to lurk and avoid attention. Probably doctor or something.

Zekrom2802 and Mikecall will be the two obvious scums.

Iced_Monopoly is probably a bored citizen.

Toadette is also a citizen but isnt bored at all.

TDL is the second neutral.

Suntax is the last scum, but he will be really good at hiding among the town.

As you can see you are lurking all the time.

[Calix]

Page 12, to be exactly.

Thank you for this life-saving information.

Thoughts on the Page 5 debacle? Or on any of the accusations made during the day?

[Yukitaka Oni]

Nah, he is of course my scum partner, like pod said at the start of the day!



As you can see you are lurking all the time.
He is of course my scum partner
- Jew, you steal jewels again v)o.o)>? Say Nein please!

[Zekrom2802]

Thank you for this life-saving information.

Thoughts on the Page 5 debacle? Or on any of the accusations made during the day?

Well, In my point of view you asked mike multiple times to give any reads, so that he differentiates from the other possible pressure targets and that his train slowly stops, but he tried to completely avoid that question, which is scummy in my opinion. At the end of your "argument" he stopped to defend himself at all, just saying "It doesn't matter what I'm saying anyways, get Calix after I flipped town". Well, I'm not really good in giving reads, so sorry for that.

[Zekrom2802]

He is of course my scum partner
- Jew, you steal jewels again v)o.o)>? Say Nein please!

I'm sorry to tell you that, but it's true...

[Yukitaka Oni]

I'm sorry to tell you that, but it's true...
V)O.O)V Mein Jews.......

[Suntax]

I would vote yuki on the fact she has contributed not a single spec of information or analysis what so sever
As for town reads I can only mention 2 as of this time which is you calix because in spite of all you have contributed and led most analysis I can read off and obviously scum can do the same but it's just a town thing to do
secondly most likely zekrom because even though he is messing and not contribute as much as I would like he still contributes interesting and vital analysis we need to break the missing link but all it takes is full concentration on analysis and he is a valued town read

[Zekrom2802]

I would vote yuki on the fact she has contributed not a single spec of information or analysis what so sever
As for town reads I can only mention 2 as of this time which is you calix because in spite of all you have contributed and led most analysis I can read off and obviously scum can do the same but it's just a town thing to do
secondly most likely zekrom because even though he is messing and not contribute as much as I would like he still contributes interesting and vital analysis we need to break the missing link but all it takes is full concentration on analysis and he is a valued town read

My "analysis" wasn't that contributing and interesting at all in my opinion, to Yuki: I bet that's just his way of playing, I basícally did the same in S-FM The Black War and Toadette almost policy lynched me.

[Yukitaka Oni]

Breaking news: lots of people think Yuki is a girl v)o.o)^ but the Jew think yuki is a guy! Which one is true??? >)o.o)> <(o.o(< could be yuki gay or both? We will be back with more breaking news! v)o.o)^!

[Calix]

I would vote yuki on the fact she has contributed not a single spec of information or analysis what so sever
As for town reads I can only mention 2 as of this time which is you calix because in spite of all you have contributed and led most analysis I can read off and obviously scum can do the same but it's just a town thing to do
secondly most likely zekrom because even though he is messing and not contribute as much as I would like he still contributes interesting and vital analysis we need to break the missing link but all it takes is full concentration on analysis and he is a valued town read

Yuki: But it's Day 1! Absolutely nothing can be gleaned from Day 1, which is why forum games with no investigative roles can never lynch scum Day 1! I'll be useful on Day 2!!!!!1!11!1wun!1!1

Do people not already have the rest of the forum to shit-post? Trolling and lurking = boring as shit game.

I think we should pressure Yuki a bit if they don't straighten themselves out tomorrow.

You think Zekrom is the 2nd most pro-town player? This is the sort of thing most players would not assume. What precisely do you think is incisive about what he's said so far?

Also, what are your thoughts on Toadette/ RLVG's contributions so far? They've been fairly curt in their responses, so there's some leeway for interpretation.