S-FM 157: gLiTCh_44

[Enigmatic Alpha]

Players, please respond to your Beta Key (role) so that we can create your in game account. There will be no anonymous accounts by the result of the player poll. The game will begin when everyone is ready.

[Enigmatic Alpha]

Welcome to Enigma!
1. Toadette
2. Mikecall
3. TheDarkestLight
4. Shifty
5. RLVG
6. Numbertwo
7. sekov
8. SuperJack
9. Firebringer
10. Zekrom2802
11. ika
12. DarknessB
13. MattZed
Please be careful! There have been lots of server issues recently. Play with caution!

[Enigmatic Alpha]

We have finally launched! View patch notes here!

Version 1.0 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/33022-S-FM-158-gLiTCh_44?p=514844#post514844)

Time until next maintenance (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=when+is+5%3A00+PM+CDT+Thursday+September+24+201 5)

[Stealthbomber16]

Gogogo!

hey, someone, my enigmatic alpha account wont post anything, it claims I need a mod to approve it?

Anyway

Time until next maintenance (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=when+is+5%3A00+PM+CDT+Thursday+September+24+201 5)

lynch will be set uno momento just lemme see if i cant get my account working >.>

[Enigmatic Alpha]

7

that was awkward

[Firebringer]

First here:

This is to continue
MattZed

I am pretty tired for some reason.
I NEED SLEEP!

[DarknessB]

Tradition!

MattZed

[Firebringer]

Tradition!

MattZed

Darkness is Darkness.

That was a 100% darkness post.

I don't know if he is evil yet.

Must analyze more posts!

[DarknessB]

Darkness is Darkness.

That was a 100% darkness post.

I don't know if he is evil yet.

Must analyze more posts!

I have a secondary goal in every game of: Survive to see MattZed lynched during the day. :)

[Firebringer]

I have a secondary goal in every game of: Survive to see MattZed lynched during the day. :)

I was given a secondary goal as well:
Lead the town to victory.


You know secondary to "Win as Town"

[Firebringer]

I am leading this game btw.

Sheriff Jailor Firebringer is back in action.

[DarknessB]

I am leading this game btw.

Sheriff Jailor Firebringer is back in action.

Can I be the Deputy Sheriff Jailor?

[Firebringer]

Can I be the Deputy Sheriff Jailor?

Deputy always gets lynched/dies.

Thats why MattZed did a good job in that role.

[DarknessB]

Deputy always gets lynched/dies.

Thats why MattZed did a good job in that role.

This is far more hilarious given the actual MattZed Deputy track record.

[SuperJack]

Hullo guys

[DarknessB]

Hullo guys

Can I be unbanned from S-FM Prime Minister pls? I'll be nice to Fire.

[Firebringer]

Hullo guys

That response

Lets look at this post
he says

"hullo" instead of "Hello" e is usual meaning casual friendly tone.

Replace it with u instead and its a asian stereotype.

Now what do we know about the asians? WELL THEY ARE DECIETFUL!

Ergo...SuperJack is not town.

[DarknessB]

That response

Lets look at this post
he says

"hullo" instead of "Hello" e is usual meaning casual friendly tone.

Replace it with u instead and its a asian stereotype.

Now what do we know about the asians? WELL THEY ARE DECIETFUL!

Ergo...SuperJack is not town.

This sounds like one of Sekov's Illuminati game reads, except with betting spelling, lol.

[TheDarkestLight]

So, I was playing the game and when I battled a level 69 boss, a level 420 noscoper boss came out of nowhere. His buffs from Mt. Dew and Doritos were absurd, but I beat him with my Blade of The Fallen Dragon. Still, no one else here has the skill to beat a level 420 boss when they're only able to fight level 69s.

I request this glitch get fixed if unintentional. Yet if it is intentional then well... I'm the only one who is going to get to the top for a while.

[Enigmatic Alpha]

So, I was playing the game and when I battled a level 69 boss, a level 420 noscoper boss came out of nowhere. His buffs from Mt. Dew and Doritos were absurd, but I beat him with my Blade of The Fallen Dragon. Still, no one else here has the skill to beat a level 420 boss when they're only able to fight level 69s.

I request this glitch get fixed if unintentional. Yet if it is intentional then well... I'm the only one who is going to get to the top for a while.

This will be looked into.
Just be warned that if its a glitch then your level will probably reset back down to 60. Glitch Abusers go against the terms and conditions. Thanks for reporting it though!

[Firebringer]

I was told this game was intentionally buggy and broken.

I do not want to be apart of a game where the Host cares and wants to fix problems:

@Host: Replace me out. THIS IS STUPID!

[Firebringer]

I have had second thoughts.

I can play a non-broken game.

I am just going to have to jail more players and scan them harder.

[DarknessB]

I've found the solution to fix all glitches in this game -- replace Players 1-13 with 13 Hypersnipers.

[SuperJack]

I just encounter a glitch.
I saw firebringer naked.

[DarknessB]

I just encounter a glitch.
I saw firebringer naked.

That's not a bug, it's a feature of the program.

[DarknessB]

Stealth, as much fun as it is to shitpost in the interim, can you PM everyone to tell them that the game began? Guessing most players don't realize yet.

[Enigmatic Alpha]

I just encounter a glitch.
I saw firebringer naked.

That shouldn't be happening. It's probably our firewall. We'll strengthen that up soon.

[Enigmatic Alpha]

Stealth, as much fun as it is to shitpost in the interim, can you PM everyone to tell them that the game began? Guessing most players don't realize yet.

Currently posting on my phone. Will do when I get home in 50-60 minutes.

[DarknessB]

Currently posting on my phone. Will do when I get home in 50-60 minutes.

Cool, thanks.

[MattZed]

Hullo guys
Nervous scum typically make shorter posts because they're worried they'll slip.

I smell something...

[Toadette]

Part of me is excited for this game, given the more standard role set and fun theme. Another part of me is annoyed already, given that it seems like day 1 is a trollfest here on every game. Should I stick around to read useless posts day 1, or should I just leave until day two? Still might as well leave this here either way.

DarknessB

Word.

[MattZed]

I see you, Toadette.

Say something interesting or die.

[Firebringer]

Part of me is excited for this game, given the more standard role set and fun theme. Another part of me is annoyed already, given that it seems like day 1 is a trollfest here on every game. Should I stick around to read useless posts day 1, or should I just leave until day two? Still might as well leave this here either way.

DarknessB

Word.

What do you specifically think of this setup?
You think it favors town or scum?


I see you, Toadette.

Say something interesting or die.

No.

[MattZed]

Ugh, my "someone else has posted since you started typing" feature didn't work.

The goal for day 1 is to troll the hardest and then win. It's the best way to get MVP.

But no one likes someone who doesn't wanna play the troll day.

Toadette

[DarknessB]

Part of me is excited for this game, given the more standard role set and fun theme. Another part of me is annoyed already, given that it seems like day 1 is a trollfest here on every game. Should I stick around to read useless posts day 1, or should I just leave until day two? Still might as well leave this here either way.

DarknessB

Word.

That's not how you spell "MattZed". Voting Toadette for defying important FM traditions.

Toadette

[DarknessB]

Ugh, my "someone else has posted since you started typing" feature didn't work.

The goal for day 1 is to troll the hardest and then win. It's the best way to get MVP.

But no one likes someone who doesn't wanna play the troll day.

Toadette

See, even MattZed was in favor of lynching MattZed on Day 1. That's why I'm a MattZed fan, lol. You ruined it, Toadette!

[Toadette]

Replying to the only post worth replying to.


What do you specifically think of this setup?
You think it favors town or scum?
Town.

[Mikecall]

You know, i think i saw this in a movie once, but back on track,

superjack

Lets the games begin.

[Firebringer]

Is it because of numbers?

Town power roles?

[MattZed]

That's not how you spell "MattZed". Voting Toadette for defying important FM traditions.

Toadette
Damned glitch in the matrix.

[DarknessB]

Damned glitch in the matrix.

Yeah, this site sometimes transposes names by accident. Like that time that Firebringer thread somehow got changed to Hypersniper.

[Toadette]

Is it because of numbers?

Town power roles?
We have the potential to do very well this game. Do you think otherwise?

[Mikecall]

Ugh, my "someone else has posted since you started typing" feature didn't work.

The goal for day 1 is to troll the hardest and then win. It's the best way to get MVP.

But no one likes someone who doesn't wanna play the troll day.

Toadette

Playing the day 1 curse, that seems to be a bit, 'Glitchy', wouldnt you think?

Playing against old meta, very suspicious.

The fight of trolling will never be supressed.

[SuperJack]

Remember, if you get too annoying. You will get told so.

[DarknessB]

Setup question for the group -- how many Illuminati do we think are in this game? More or less than were in S-FM Illuminati?

[SuperJack]

Lol Seriously, how many of you have said I'm summy because I said Hullo Guys?

[DarknessB]

Remember, if you get too annoying. You will get told so.

Stealth loves being annoying in FMs, lol -- I think you're more likely to get in trouble for not being annoying enough. :)

[Mikecall]

Lol Seriously, how many of you have said I'm summy because I said Hullo Guys?

You never know, all of us could be hypersniper in diguise, you never know what could happen.

[Toadette]

Lol Seriously, how many of you have said I'm summy because I said Hullo Guys?
Why does it bother you so much?

[DarknessB]

You never know, all of us could be hypersniper in diguise, you never know what could happen.

If we were all Hypersniper, there would be zero posts in this thread, lol.

[MattZed]

For the record, MattZed thinks the setup is mostly balanced (I think Glitch 44's wincon is a little hard since he doesn't always get a night kill) and that town has less than a 50% chance of winning, assuming there's nothing too swingy going on in the power roles.

The most interesting mechanic, IMO, is how Glitch's kill works; he only kills if we mislynch or lynch the other neut. This actually becomes some odd incentive to favor no-lynches over random lynches. (maybe)

[MattZed]

Lol Seriously, how many of you have said I'm summy because I said Hullo Guys?
Don't act like that wasn't a scummy post.

[MattZed]

Fun fact: deathnotes

Fun fact: I am totally not reading the setup for the first time.

[SuperJack]

Tradition!

MattZed

Scum excuse for a vote.


So, I was playing the game and when I battled a level 69 boss, a level 420 noscoper boss came out of nowhere. His buffs from Mt. Dew and Doritos were absurd, but I beat him with my Blade of The Fallen Dragon. Still, no one else here has the skill to beat a level 420 boss when they're only able to fight level 69s.

I request this glitch get fixed if unintentional. Yet if it is intentional then well... I'm the only one who is going to get to the top for a while.

Says the word Top. This guy is a Top hacker. Dunno the Colour


Part of me is excited for this game, given the more standard role set and fun theme. Another part of me is annoyed already, given that it seems like day 1 is a trollfest here on every game. Should I stick around to read useless posts day 1, or should I just leave until day two? Still might as well leave this here either way.

DarknessB

Word.
Random vote on DarknessB. Scummy shit


Nervous scum typically make shorter posts because they're worried they'll slip.

I smell something...

Makes random shit up about scum making short votes


You know, i think i saw this in a movie once, but back on track,

superjack

Lets the games begin.

This is no way on track. out of them all. This is the one to vote

[MattZed]

Who, if anyone, can lose night chats upon changing roles?

[Firebringer]

We have the potential to do very well this game. Do you think otherwise?

There is 5 scum in this game.
Without cross killing or town killing doing some killing on them.
It could end very badly.

[SuperJack]

MattZed

Learn the Setup.

[DarknessB]

For the record, MattZed thinks the setup is mostly balanced (I think Glitch 44's wincon is a little hard since he doesn't always get a night kill) and that town has less than a 50% chance of winning, assuming there's nothing too swingy going on in the power roles.

The most interesting mechanic, IMO, is how Glitch's kill works; he only kills if we mislynch or lynch the other neut. This actually becomes some odd incentive to favor no-lynches over random lynches. (maybe)

Another interesting mechanic is that a Journalist / Corrupt Journalist can convert the Corrupted Dataware to its alignment.

[MattZed]

Wait, why does Mike have an avatar now?

What is this.

[MattZed]

MattZed

Learn the Setup.
Ooh, putting votes on the safest train that isn't you.

Clever flail, scum.

[Firebringer]

MattZed

Learn the Setup.

Someone is voting lynch bait so that pressure is off them.

Anyone else find this suspect?

[Toadette]

There is 5 scum in this game.
Without cross killing or town killing doing some killing on them.
It could end very badly.
As long as town does its job and hunts down the bad guys we'll be fine.

[MattZed]

There is 5 scum in this game.
Without cross killing or town killing doing some killing on them.
It could end very badly.
One of them isn't really scum.

Another interesting mechanic is that a Journalist / Corrupt Journalist can convert the Corrupted Dataware to its alignment.
Gonna be quite curious to hear what journals are coming tonight.

[MattZed]

Someone is voting lynch bait so that pressure is off them.

Anyone else find this suspect?
I do. I may have already said something about this.

[SuperJack]

Ooh, putting votes on the safest train that isn't you.

Clever flail, scum.

I didn't notice Firebringer voting you. But, I am happy knowing that the glorious SheriffJailor is with me on this one.

[Firebringer]

Matt just claimed to be CoRRuptEd DaTAwaRe

[Mikecall]

Wait, why does Mike have an avatar now?

What is this.

You noticed? thats good xD, i think you was actually the first one to notice this avatar, but what the avatar is, you never know.

[Toadette]

MattZed

Learn the Setup.
You just said Mikecall was the one to vote so why vote Mattzed?

[DarknessB]

Someone is voting lynch bait so that pressure is off them.

Anyone else find this suspect?

I do -- voting up MattZed early was a good way to see who would scum slip under pressure. SuperJack failed, lol.

[Firebringer]

I didn't notice Firebringer voting you. But, I am happy knowing that the glorious SheriffJailor is with me on this one.

You can't butter me up.

[SuperJack]

You just said Mikecall was the one to vote so why vote Mattzed?

I get them two mixed up. Very similar names.

[MattZed]

Guys, we're all pressuring SuperJack.

I think this is a good direction to proceed. Man has some shit that needs calling out.

[Firebringer]

Super Jack

His voting and behavior is suspicious.

[DarknessB]

I get them two mixed up. Very similar names.

How do you mix those two up? One is infamous for his Day 1 meltdowns, and the other is MattZed. :)

[Toadette]

I get them two mixed up. Very similar names.
So you thought Matted made that post?

[SuperJack]

Guys, we're all pressuring SuperJack.

I think this is a good direction to proceed. Man has some shit that needs calling out.

No. Thats a terrible idea. If people are gonna do this everygame, why not just force everyone to roleclaim D1?

[Mikecall]

You just said Mikecall was the one to vote so why vote Mattzed?

Could of been either a misinterpretation or a scum slip, you can never know. But i find that superjack could be borderline.

[MattZed]

You know, I like this train we're building so much that I'll even add to it.

SuperJack

[DarknessB]

Choo choo!

SuperJack

[SuperJack]

So you thought Matted made that post?

I voted the guy because he is "Just Reading the Setup"

I say that only when I'm Scum

[Firebringer]

Super Jack

His voting and behavior is suspicious.

I fail at voting.
SuperJack

Okay anyone notice odd behavior for Super Jack?

First I am testing who is willing ot jump on MattZed early and be opportunistic.
Then he jumps on that.

Then he tries buttering me up by trying to feed my ego.


All scum indications.

[MattZed]

How do you mix those two up? One is infamous for his Day 1 meltdowns, and the other is MattZed. :)
Wut. How has Mike melted down worse than I have?

Does no one remember my pitiful survivor flails?

[MattZed]

Holy shit L-3 this early.

This town surely knows how to exercise the power of vote. I am optimistic.

DarknessB doing a bit of sheeping today, but it's probably nothing.

[Toadette]

Okay, those jumping so quickly on the Superjack wagon are being way too opportunistic. There has to be at lease 1-2 bad guys there.

[SuperJack]

I fail at voting.
SuperJack

Okay anyone notice odd behavior for Super Jack?

First I am testing who is willing ot jump on MattZed early and be opportunistic.
Then he jumps on that.

Then he tries buttering me up by trying to feed my ego.


All scum indications.

I didn't jump on MattZed because of you, I didnt even know you voted him. I voted him purely by my own reasonings.

[DarknessB]

I fail at voting.
SuperJack

Okay anyone notice odd behavior for Super Jack?

First I am testing who is willing ot jump on MattZed early and be opportunistic.
Then he jumps on that.

Then he tries buttering me up by trying to feed my ego.


All scum indications.

All kidding aside, SuperJack is behaving a bit erratically. Might as well make the most of Day 1 with a pressure?

[Mikecall]

I fail at voting.
SuperJack

Okay anyone notice odd behavior for Super Jack?

First I am testing who is willing ot jump on MattZed early and be opportunistic.
Then he jumps on that.

Then he tries buttering me up by trying to feed my ego.


All scum indications.

Also gets me and mattzed confused?, now that makes me confused.

[Firebringer]

Holy shit L-3 this early.

This town surely knows how to exercise the power of vote. I am optimistic.

DarknessB doing a bit of sheeping today, but it's probably nothing.

Right now, I think you are the CoRRuptEd DaTAwaRe.

Got any counter arguments to that?

[MattZed]

Right now, I think you are the CoRRuptEd DaTAwaRe.

Got any counter arguments to that?
I can respond to any and all counterarguments in a journal entry.

Is that sufficient?

[Firebringer]

I can respond to any and all counterarguments in a journal entry.

Is that sufficient?

Nice soft claim.

[Toadette]

Firebringer, Darkness, Mikecall, Mattzed

Mikecall calls Superjack borderline but still has his vote on him

Darkness being a sheep

Smells bad.

[DarknessB]

Holy shit L-3 this early.

This town surely knows how to exercise the power of vote. I am optimistic.

DarknessB doing a bit of sheeping today, but it's probably nothing.

It's Day 1 -- I'm trying to get the trolling out of my system before we have to play seriously.

Also, I don't think it's a bad idea to pressure Super a little bit, as I said before.

[Firebringer]

Firebringer, Darkness, Mikecall, Mattzed

Mikecall calls Superjack borderline but still has his vote on him

Darkness being a sheep

Smells bad.

Any thoughts on Matts soft claim role?

He soft claimed Journalist but he could be the Mafia Journalist.

[MattZed]

I actually think the meta is that scum are either slow to vote or quick to change votes.

[Toadette]

Vote Darkness right now. Pressure him. Right NOW

[SuperJack]

Fuck you and all of your random pressure. I always get shit for just lurking. And when I really want to try, you all do this?

So I'm going to do this.

I will claim the role Player if you pressure me.
I will lie about my role.
Or I will lie about that. Either way. Your getting nothing Day One.

[Mikecall]

Firebringer, Darkness, Mikecall, Mattzed

Mikecall calls Superjack borderline but still has his vote on him

Darkness being a sheep

Smells bad.

Cause his behaviour has been out of the ordinary, suspicious also, thats why i said before he was borderline, but i didnt say on what sides though.

[MattZed]

Guys I'm hard claiming not Journalist.

Who claims a confirmable role D1 in a non-broken setup?

[DarknessB]

Fuck you and all of your random pressure. I always get shit for just lurking. And when I really want to try, you all do this?

So I'm going to do this.

I will claim the role Player if you pressure me.
I will lie about my role.
Or I will lie about that. Either way. Your getting nothing Day One.

Gotcha, Slaol Jr. -- sounds pretty anti-Town to me...

[Firebringer]

Fuck you and all of your random pressure. I always get shit for just lurking. And when I really want to try, you all do this?

So I'm going to do this.

I will claim the role Player if you pressure me.
I will lie about my role.
Or I will lie about that. Either way. Your getting nothing Day One.

Maybe I am confirmation biasing this, but this doesn't sound genuine at all.

[SuperJack]

WHITE HAT HACKER or BLACK HAT HACKER.

I think TheDarkestLight has breadcrumbed this role.

[Toadette]

Gotcha, Slaol Jr. -- sounds pretty anti-Town to me...
Anti town and scum are NOT the same thing.

Darkness is the one playing scummy right now.

[SuperJack]

DarknessB, why is he scummy, please highlight this.

[Toadette]

Maybe I am confirmation biasing this, but this doesn't sound genuine at all.
Definitely bias. This wagon has scum on it.

[Firebringer]

Reads List:

SuperJack-Looks scummy as hell from his earlier behavior, I already discussed.
MattZed-His soft claim makes me unsure, but I don't think he would do so if he was scum.
Toadette-Not sure, feels town though based on skeptical about joining the Super wagon, could be trying to derail it though.
Mikecall-This early he kind of seems town, need more from him.
TheDarkestLight-Not enough to read.
DarknessB-I think Darkness just wants to survive the day and thats why he wants to sheep. It could be town tell considering his own meta. Unsure, leaving him at null.

[SuperJack]

Definitely bias. This wagon has scum on it.

I have to agree, the wagon on me was uncalled for and quickly jumped out of nowhere. Atleast two of them are scum.

[Firebringer]

I have to agree, the wagon on me was uncalled for and quickly jumped out of nowhere. Atleast two of them are scum.

Got any reason to think 2 players are scum? And which two?

[SuperJack]

Reads List:

SuperJack-Looks scummy as hell from his earlier behavior, I already discussed.
MattZed-His soft claim makes me unsure, but I don't think he would do so if he was scum.
Toadette-Not sure, feels town though based on skeptical about joining the Super wagon, could be trying to derail it though.
Mikecall-This early he kind of seems town, need more from him.
TheDarkestLight-Not enough to read.
DarknessB-I think Darkness just wants to survive the day and thats why he wants to sheep. It could be town tell considering his own meta. Unsure, leaving him at null.

You didn't "discuss" this. You make some shit posts and think that cake. Well its not.

And I already told you about TDL's soft claim, and you ignore this? Awesome.

[Enigmatic Alpha]

Who, if anyone, can lose night chats upon changing roles?

Corrupt dataware.

We will be sending out a mass prod now. If you get it do not be alarmed!

Also, I'd like someone to act as a replacement in case I need one so that I don't go insane.

[Firebringer]

You didn't "discuss" this. You make some shit posts and think that cake. Well its not.

And I already told you about TDL's soft claim, and you ignore this? Awesome.

That wasn't a soft-claim from my perspective.

Seemed like a silly post.

I will ask TDL when he comes back if he was softclaiming something, but right now you are diverting attention to something that probably has no meaning.

[DarknessB]

I have to agree, the wagon on me was uncalled for and quickly jumped out of nowhere. Atleast two of them are scum.

You two seem to be buddying up pretty strongly. Dude, it's Day 1 -- no one was going to lynch you. We just wanted to get a little information from you. Why so defensive if you have nothing to hide? You basically pulled a Slaol "I'm not going to help b/c you offended me" card.

[SuperJack]

Got any reason to think 2 players are scum? And which two?

You and DarknessB seem pretty chill. You give him a Null when there is plenty to pick from, which is what a scum would feel safest doing. You two are most likely teamed up.

[Firebringer]

If anything I doubt Super Jack and Toadette are aligned.
Way too early to buddy, and if you wanted to derail a train, you would be more subtle about it.

[DarknessB]

You didn't "discuss" this. You make some shit posts and think that cake. Well its not.

And I already told you about TDL's soft claim, and you ignore this? Awesome.

Pretty sure TDL was just trolling given it was Day 1. I really don't think he was soft claiming at all. But, feel free to ask him when he's back around.

[SuperJack]

You two seem to be buddying up pretty strongly. Dude, it's Day 1 -- no one was going to lynch you. We just wanted to get a little information from you. Why so defensive if you have nothing to hide? You basically pulled a Slaol "I'm not going to help b/c you offended me" card.

I never said I'm not gonna help. Just not gonna claim any true role unless I need to.
I shall lead this town to victory.

[Firebringer]

You and DarknessB seem pretty chill. You give him a Null when there is plenty to pick from, which is what a scum would feel safest doing. You two are most likely teamed up.

Fair enough. We are aligned on voting patterns so far.


Can I ask why you are not voting either of us?

Cause that seems odd as fuck if you think we are scum.

[SuperJack]

Pretty sure TDL was just trolling given it was Day 1. I really don't think he was soft claiming at all. But, feel free to ask him when he's back around.

If you ask him he will just say no, since it seems quite well hidden. So either way asking him is pointless.

[MattZed]

You and DarknessB seem pretty chill. You give him a Null when there is plenty to pick from, which is what a scum would feel safest doing. You two are most likely teamed up.
Firebringer and DarknessB are the two you think are scum, and yet the person on your train that you're voting is me.

Do you mean anything you say?

[Toadette]

Initial vote: second vote on Mattzed

Second vote:


That's not how you spell "MattZed". Voting Toadette for defying important FM traditions.

Toadette
Second vote on me, AFTER I vote him

Third vote:


Choo choo!

SuperJack
Third vote on Superjack

Wants to "pressure" Superjack, while manipulating a narrative that Superjack is scum.

Pressure Darkness.

[DarknessB]

You and DarknessB seem pretty chill. You give him a Null when there is plenty to pick from, which is what a scum would feel safest doing. You two are most likely teamed up.

There's a null because I jokingly voted up MattZed and you flipped out, lol. It's Day 1 -- if you're really reading into me trolling early per the site tradition, your intuition is awful.

[Shifty]

“The Servers are Busy at this time. Please try again later. (Error 37)”
FIX YOUR GAME DEVELOPERS

No but seriously I was checking this thread all day to see if the game had started or not and then I'm away for like 3 hours and it's already 6 pages.
Gonna have some catching up to do.

[SuperJack]

Fair enough. We are aligned on voting patterns so far.


Can I ask why you are not voting either of us?

Cause that seems odd as fuck if you think we are scum.

I'll vote you when I feel like it. We have plenty of time to spend so best save voting the scum to the end of the day, when we can lynch them.

[TheDarkestLight]

If you ask him he will just say no, since it seems quite well hidden. So either way asking him is pointless.

This.

[SuperJack]

There's a null because I jokingly voted up MattZed and you flipped out, lol. It's Day 1 -- if you're really reading into me trolling early per the site tradition, your intuition is awful.

I was making a joke about everones first posts if you didnt notice.

[DarknessB]

Initial vote: second vote on Mattzed

Second vote:


Second vote on me, AFTER I vote him

Third vote:


Third vote on Superjack

Wants to "pressure" Superjack, while manipulating a narrative that Superjack is scum.

Pressure Darkness.

Toadette, I get that you're new so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. This is Day 1 -- votes go flying around gratuitously and people troll. You also voted me up before most of those posts were made, so if anyone is targeting anyone else, it'd be you.

[MattZed]

Toadette+SuperJack is a pretty interesting team.

[Toadette]

There's a null because I jokingly voted up MattZed and you flipped out, lol. It's Day 1 -- if you're really reading into me trolling early per the site tradition, your intuition is awful.
Darkness wants to troll while at the same time pressure? There is a disconnect here and it doesn't add up.

[Enigmatic Alpha]

“The Servers are Busy at this time. Please try again later. (Error 37)”
FIX YOUR GAME DEVELOPERS

No but seriously I was checking this thread all day to see if the game had started or not and then I'm away for like 3 hours and it's already 6 pages.
Gonna have some catching up to do.

Our servers do have an issue and the game will run a lot better soon, projected to happen in update 1.2.

The graphics engine is getting an overhaul as well, but this will happen later.

[SuperJack]

Toadette, I get that you're new so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. This is Day 1 -- votes go flying around gratuitously and people troll. You also voted me up before most of those posts were made, so if anyone is targeting anyone else, it'd be you.

Only shit town and scum troll Day 1. There is plenty to pick from, because scum troll.


OH LOOK YOU TROLLED.

Scum.

[MattZed]

Toadette, I get that you're new so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. This is Day 1 -- votes go flying around gratuitously and people troll. You also voted me up before most of those posts were made, so if anyone is targeting anyone else, it'd be you.
Wtf Darkness. Troll day doesn't mean "forget about your wincon and just flail wildly day." It's the day of trolling people into scumslipping.

[Toadette]

Toadette, I get that you're new so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. This is Day 1 -- votes go flying around gratuitously and people troll. You also voted me up before most of those posts were made, so if anyone is targeting anyone else, it'd be you.
You see votes "flying around", I see a suspicious voting pattern.

[SuperJack]

Toadette+SuperJack is a pretty interesting team.

Well when people are right its hard to argue with them. Team Town is pretty good.

[DarknessB]

Only shit town and scum troll Day 1. There is plenty to pick from, because scum troll.


OH LOOK YOU TROLLED.

Scum.

You realize everyone but Toadette and TDL have trolled so I guess we're all scum per your logic?

[Enigmatic Alpha]

Oh boy.

This game gonna be a fun one to moderate.

[Firebringer]

Only shit town and scum troll Day 1. There is plenty to pick from, because scum troll.


OH LOOK YOU TROLLED.

Scum.

You are just repeating Toadette now.

Come on Super, you are better than this.

[SuperJack]

I don't want an early lynch. But I will leave my vote on DarknessB, since I may be sleeping when my vote is needed.

DarknessB

[DarknessB]

Well when people are right its hard to argue with them. Team Town is pretty good.

LOL, keep telling me there's no buddying going on between them.

[TheDarkestLight]

You realize everyone but Toadette and TDL have trolled so I guess we're all scum per your logic?

I don't like Day One.

[SuperJack]

You are just repeating Toadette now.

Come on Super, you are better than this.

What happens when people reach the right answer, they get the same answer. So deal with it.

[DarknessB]

What happens when people reach the right answer, they get the same answer. So deal with it.

Apparently, Toadette is paying SuperJack $5 for every compliment post.

[MattZed]

I wonder what would happen if I started joining Toadette's side for a little bit.

DarknessB

[SuperJack]

You realize everyone but Toadette and TDL have trolled so I guess we're all scum per your logic?

I've managed to bring you and Fire out. Done pretty well there.

[SuperJack]

This.

You're welcome.

[Firebringer]

I don't like Day One.

You like me though, right?


I don't want an early lynch. But I will leave my vote on DarknessB, since I may be sleeping when my vote is needed.

DarknessB

Theres a disconnect here, like if you don't want a lynch. You should be pressuring me instead of Darkness since no one but you is thinking I am scum.

Instead you go for Darkness.


So whats your goal with this?

I understand pressure vote, but do you want a role claim?

[SuperJack]

You like me though, right?



Theres a disconnect here, like if you don't want a lynch. You should be pressuring me instead of Darkness since no one but you is thinking I am scum.

Instead you go for Darkness.


So whats your goal with this?

I understand pressure vote, but do you want a role claim?

I want to watch him squirm.

[DarknessB]

I want to watch him squirm.

Basically, he tries to turn the pressure around from him to someone else. Since Toadette voted me, he piles on trains. First he piled on MattZed's joke train and now on mine. Probably because he doesn't want to give any information.

[Toadette]

Basically, he tries to turn the pressure around from him to someone else. Since Toadette voted me, he piles on trains. First he piled on MattZed's joke train and now on mine. Probably because he doesn't want to give any information.
Are you scum reading him for the same thing you have been doing?

[TheDarkestLight]

You like me though, right?

No you're pretty annoying, but I like your avatar.

To those who don't know, I dislike D1 since it tends to reveal TPRs more often than scum. Please refer to my my play in FM Book Three as FM Zack on day one.

[MattZed]

Basically, he tries to turn the pressure around from him to someone else. Since Toadette voted me, he piles on trains. First he piled on MattZed's joke train and now on mine. Probably because he doesn't want to give any information.
Sorry sir, this isn't a joke train. It's time to answer questions.

What roles do you think the hackers have?
If there were only one journalist, which alignment would it have?

[SuperJack]

Basically, he tries to turn the pressure around from him to someone else. Since Toadette voted me, he piles on trains. First he piled on MattZed's joke train and now on mine. Probably because he doesn't want to give any information.

K MY LW


-lw = FU



Its easy to get you to reveal your scum soul. I'm just letting it shine so everyone can see it.

[Firebringer]

No you're pretty annoying, but I like your avatar.

To those who don't know, I dislike D1 since it tends to reveal TPRs more often than scum. Please refer to my my play in FM Book Three as FM Zack on day one.

Well, do you have any thoughts on the two trains so far?

[TheDarkestLight]

Well, do you have any thoughts on the two trains so far?

Yes I do.

[Firebringer]

I want to say I think one of these trains has scum on it, I doubt both.

Counter wagons often form like this because one of the trains has scum and they try to derail.

[Firebringer]

Yes I do.

Okay, well whenever you would like to share with the rest of the class.

We can't wait to hear your opinions.

[SuperJack]

I want to say I think one of these trains has scum on it, I doubt both.

Counter wagons often form like this because one of the trains has scum and they try to derail.

Scum dont de-rail this early.

But they try to mis-lynch since Day-1 Mislynch is so easy to get away with.

[TheDarkestLight]

Okay, well whenever you would like to share with the rest of the class.

We can't wait to hear your opinions.

I might D2 if it's still relevant.

[Toadette]

I want to say I think one of these trains has scum on it, I doubt both.

Counter wagons often form like this because one of the trains has scum and they try to derail.
Darkness has three votes that I had to fight to get.

Superjack had 4 people pile on him very quickly over basically nothing.

Tell me which wagon feels scummier

[DarknessB]

Sorry sir, this isn't a joke train. It's time to answer questions.

What roles do you think the hackers have?
If there were only one journalist, which alignment would it have?

I'm going to dignify MattZed with an answer since he's actually asking real questions instead of buddying up like SuperJack / Toadette.

I'd guess at minimum:

1. Black Hat Hacker (roleblocking)
2. Corrupt Datatester (investigative)
3. Wild Card -- I dunno, Corrupt Journalist maybe? The recruiting element seems very gamechanging.

Knowing Stealth is a little trolly, I might suspect a Corrupt Journalist honestly. I could see him having two Journalists and making the game a race to recruit the Corrupted Dataware. 4 Hackers would be a pretty tough block to take down.

[DarknessB]

Darkness has three votes that I had to fight to get.

Superjack had 4 people pile on him very quickly over basically nothing.

Tell me which wagon feels scummier

One of the votes was the guy who was getting pressured -- why wouldn't he try to derail the train against him? The other vote was someone just looking to ask questions. Give me a break, lol.

[Toadette]

I'm going to dignify MattZed with an answer since he's actually asking real questions instead of buddying up like SuperJack / Toadette.

I'd guess at minimum:

1. Black Hat Hacker (roleblocking)
2. Corrupt Datatester (investigative)
3. Wild Card -- I dunno, Corrupt Journalist maybe? The recruiting element seems very gamechanging.

Knowing Stealth is a little trolly, I might suspect a Corrupt Journalist honestly. I could see him having two Journalists and making the game a race to recruit the Corrupted Dataware. 4 Hackers would be a pretty tough block to take down.
Questions about your voting record aren't real questions but pegging a guy early while "trolling" for confusing two posters in a VERY SPAMMY game isn't?

[Firebringer]

I say we lynch Super Jack and revisit Darkness tomorrow depending on the flip.

[DarknessB]

Questions about your voting record aren't real questions but pegging a guy early while "trolling" for confusing two posters in a VERY SPAMMY game isn't?

Questions about obviously trolly voting aren't real questions, yes. As a heads up, MattZed has a record of being lynched on Day 1. That's what prompted the joke votes. Given you're new, you get a pass for not knowing this, but otherwise I'd be astonished that someone was trying to use that as a lead.

[SuperJack]

I say we lynch Super Jack and revisit Darkness tomorrow depending on the flip.

All I heard was

IM SCUM SO IS DARKNESS SO IM GONNA PRETEND I WANNA LYNCH HIM.

[Toadette]

I say we lynch Super Jack and revisit Darkness tomorrow depending on the flip.
And this post makes me feel like YOU are scum, and that neither darkness nor superjack is aligned with you.

[Firebringer]

And this post makes me feel like YOU are scum, and that neither darkness nor superjack is aligned with you.

Well I can confirm that I am not positive either of them are town with me.
I feel like Darkness would be more likely town than Super at this point in the game.

[DarknessB]

Anyway guys, how about we get some actual thoughts out about the game vs. the circlejerk voting? MattZed's questions were good ones. Likely Hacker roles and whether we can draw any possibilities out of the game mechanics -- including whether a Journalist is more likely to be Town or Hacker. Would appreciate everyone's thoughts on them.

[Toadette]

I do -- voting up MattZed early was a good way to see who would scum slip under pressure. SuperJack failed, lol.
This dies not feel like your vote on superjack was a troll vote like you are portraying it to be.

[Firebringer]

I am heading out for awhile, you guys keep the circle jerk up I will be back to bring order to it in a half hour or so.

[DarknessB]

This dies not feel like your vote on superjack was a troll vote like you are portraying it to be.

That's because it wasn't. I said that the votes on MattZed (tradition!) and you (for ruining tradition) were troll votes. The vote on SuperJack was because of his weird peculiar reaction and then trying to pile on trains.

[SuperJack]

I am heading out for awhile, you guys keep the circle jerk up I will be back to bring order to it in a half hour or so.

Aaaaaaaand the Second scum now claims this to be "Troll" now that he has been pointed out.

[TheDarkestLight]

All I heard was

IM SCUM SO IS DARKNESS SO IM GONNA PRETEND I WANNA LYNCH HIM.

As much as I don't like doing much on D1 I can't help but have to agree with this. It seems like a really bad post.

In general I don't like "Let's pressure this person tomorrow" posts. They tend to be scum trying to direct Town.

*Tips hat* That is all.

[SuperJack]

As much as I don't like doing much on D1 I can't help but have to agree with this. It seems like a really bad post.

In general I don't like "Let's pressure this person tomorrow" posts. They tend to be scum trying to direct Town.

*Tips hat* That is all.

Damn you and that hat.

Wait untill DarknessB or Fire claim you are my third buddy.

[TheDarkestLight]

As much as I don't like doing much on D1 I can't help but have to agree with this. It seems like a really bad post.

In general I don't like "Let's pressure this person tomorrow" posts. They tend to be scum trying to direct Town.

*Tips hat* That is all.

And the fact it "conveniently" might let him get out of pushing on his partner if/when SJ flips town. Just thought I'd explain my thought better,

[Firebringer]

Back!

Here is what I think so far:
TheDarkestLight and SuperJack are not on scum team together.
Toadette and SuperJack are not on scum team together.
MattZed and SuperJack are not on scum team together.
Me and Super are definitely not on scum team together.
Me and Darkness are not on scum team together.

So, that leaves a few lurkers. Possible mikecall? (why do I always fall back on him?)

[Toadette]

So the pressure on Darkness is hitting Firebringer. I feel good about this.


Back!

Here is what I think so far:
TheDarkestLight and SuperJack are not on scum team together.
Toadette and SuperJack are not on scum team together.
MattZed and SuperJack are not on scum team together.
Me and Super are definitely not on scum team together.
Me and Darkness are not on scum team together.

So, that leaves a few lurkers. Possible mikecall? (why do I always fall back on him?)
Leaves vote on SuperJack (both Superjack and Darkness have 3 votes) but tries to steer attention away from the conversation onto... Mikecall?

[Firebringer]

So the pressure on Darkness is hitting Firebringer. I feel good about this.


Leaves vote on SuperJack (both Superjack and Darkness have 3 votes) but tries to steer attention away from the conversation onto... Mikecall?

Is that what you are getting out of this?

[Toadette]

Is that what you are getting out of this?
Why would I state it if that's not what I was observing? What a silly question.

[Firebringer]

Why would I state it if that's not what I was observing? What a silly question.

I just find your analysis of what I am doing amusing.

[Toadette]

What are you doing then, explain it to us please.

[Firebringer]

What are you doing then, explain it to us please.

I am trying to figure this game out, if it makes me look suspicious I don't know.

[Toadette]

I am trying to figure this game out, if it makes me look suspicious I don't know.

Then explain this:


I say we lynch Super Jack and revisit Darkness tomorrow depending on the flip.

And still to this moment as you're trying to "figure the game out" your vote still remains on Superjack.

[Firebringer]

I think my posts speak for themselves.

I don't think Darkness is evil. I am willing to relook at the subject tomorrow if I am wrong about SuperJack.

Though I don't think I am wrong about Super.

And I put votes on people when I am trying to figure out the game, they are called pressure votes.

[MattZed]

I leave to have dinner with a girl and this is the best you all can come up with? Two pages of calling out DarknessB and suggesting he doesn't actually dislike SuperJack? I'm disappointed.

Does an Administrator have to be unique if they exist?

A Hacker becoming Corrupt Dataware from a coder doesn't lose night chat, correct?

Guys, I like how SuperJack is still here defending himself instead of trying to lurk it off.

I cannot say the same for Mikecall.

Mike, if you were a Corrupt Datatester who found Glitch_44, what would you do to get him lynched?

Mikecall

</encouragement>

[MattZed]

Oh yeah, and:

Let us not forget that time Shifty showed up and then checked out.

[RLVG]

Fun fact: deathnotes

Fun fact: I am totally not reading the setup for the first time.

This is extremely alarming.


No. Thats a terrible idea. If people are gonna do this everygame, why not just force everyone to roleclaim D1?

I agree. The random trains are kinda stupid N1, why not just RC the first day?


Scum dont de-rail this early.

But they try to mis-lynch since Day-1 Mislynch is so easy to get away with.

As long they're not part of the Limelight.


Back!

Here is what I think so far:
TheDarkestLight and SuperJack are not on scum team together.
Toadette and SuperJack are not on scum team together.
MattZed and SuperJack are not on scum team together.
Me and Super are definitely not on scum team together.
Me and Darkness are not on scum team together.

So, that leaves a few lurkers. Possible mikecall? (why do I always fall back on him?)

Scum associations this early is not a good idea.

[RLVG]

DID SOMEONE SAY [Upgraded Enchanted Shadowfury, Unholy Blade of the Dead Deathseeker]?

[MattZed]

RLVG is in this beta?

Did not know.

[RLVG]

RLVG is in this beta?

Did not know.

I am. That "annoying meme" thing was simply a method of getting you to notice me, in case you skimmed through the posts really quick.
That won't repeat, lel.



What do you think of this? : The setup can be easily broken by mass claiming on Day 2 and then look for counterclaims or the too many roles dilema.

[RLVG]

Also, there's a glitch in Grandmaster Seuss' Evil Hideout in which all players are magically naked with their weapons visible.
This is immersion breaking and I get stupid questions like how I can tank bosses while naked.

It's almost like if someone made a mod that glitched the area.
That should be a priority to deal with.

[RLVG]

RLVG is in this beta?

Did not know.

Also, you don't bother checking who the potential "lurkers" are?

Pssfth.

[RLVG]

I say, pressure MZ because he didn't bother reading the setup and in addition didn't bother reading the playerlist.

Maybe he didn't even read his own damn rolecard, lol.

[MattZed]

What do you think of this? : The setup can be easily broken by mass claiming on Day 2 and then look for counterclaims or the too many roles dilema.
This isn't S-FM 146 or 147. Our Lord Citizen makes up a fair amount of the population.

[RLVG]

This isn't S-FM 146 or 147. Our Lord Citizen makes up a fair amount of the population.

Yes, but that's 4 players with no role ability.
A massclaim on Day 2 specifically would lead to a conflicting nature on this.

[MattZed]

I say, pressure MZ because he didn't bother reading the setup and in addition didn't bother reading the playerlist.

Maybe he didn't even read his own damn rolecard, lol.
The game couldn't start until every player responded to their rolecard. Clearly, I've read mine. :p Pick a better target.

[MattZed]

Yes, but that's 4 players with no role ability.
A massclaim on Day 2 specifically would lead to a conflicting nature on this.
I'd tell you scum can claim in a way that would totally screw us over and not solve our problems, but I don't want to coach you this game.

[RLVG]

I'd tell you scum can claim in a way that would totally screw us over and not solve our problems, but I don't want to coach you this game.

I have a plan.

That I won't share.

[Firebringer]

The UnSpoken Plan Gurantee.

Classic.

[MattZed]

I have a plan.

That I won't share.
Did you just admit to have a plan for fakeclaiming in the event of a D2 massclaim?

What a scumslip.

[Toadette]

Did you just admit to have a plan for fakeclaiming in the event of a D2 massclaim?

What a scumslip.
What a way to twist a purposely vague post to try to make it look bad.

[MattZed]

What a way to twist a purposely vague post to try to make it look bad.
What a way to spoil my obvious reaction bating.

Don't trust RLVG to clarify on his own?

[RLVG]

But seriously.

By day 2, we have already established the Role List by actions.



Journalist - Interview a player. (Counterpart is Corrupt Journalist)
Security Officer - Heal a player.
White Hat Hacker - Roleblock a player. (Counterpart is Black Hat Hacker)
IP Changer - Bus Driver two players. (Counterpart is Rerouter)
Dataminer - Spiritualist?

Datatester - Sheriff. (Counterpart might be Corrupt Tester)
Route Manager - Vigilante. (Counterpart might be Glitch)
Administrator - Mayor.
Report Manager - Super Investigator, with disadvantages. (Counterpart is Corrupt Tester)
Coder - Roleblocking Wtf-ish-Mason

Mod Dealer - Drug Dealer (RANDOM!!!)
Black Hat Hacker - Roleblocker. (Counterpart is White Hat)
Corrupt Journalist - Interview. (Counterpart is Journalist)
Corrupt Tester - Super Investigator. (Counterpart is Report Manager, maybe Datatester)
Rerouter - Bus Driver. (Counterpart is IP Changer)

Glitch - Roleblocker, Vigilante. (Counterpart to any roleblocker or vigilante)
Corrupt Dataware - Jester Cult.

[Toadette]

What a way to spoil my obvious reaction bating.

Don't trust RLVG to clarify on his own?
Misrepresenting someone seems scummy and worth calling out.

Question: if its obvious how can it be a reaction bait?

[Toadette]

But seriously.

By day 2, we have already established the Role List by actions.



Journalist - Interview a player. (Counterpart is Corrupt Journalist)
Security Officer - Heal a player.
White Hat Hacker - Roleblock a player. (Counterpart is Black Hat Hacker)
IP Changer - Bus Driver two players. (Counterpart is Rerouter)
Dataminer - Spiritualist?

Datatester - Sheriff. (Counterpart might be Corrupt Tester)
Route Manager - Vigilante. (Counterpart might be Glitch)
Administrator - Mayor.
Report Manager - Super Investigator, with disadvantages. (Counterpart is Corrupt Tester)
Coder - Roleblocking Wtf-ish-Mason

Mod Dealer - Drug Dealer (RANDOM!!!)
Black Hat Hacker - Roleblocker. (Counterpart is White Hat)
Corrupt Journalist - Interview. (Counterpart is Journalist)
Corrupt Tester - Super Investigator. (Counterpart is Report Manager, maybe Datatester)
Rerouter - Bus Driver. (Counterpart is IP Changer)

Glitch - Roleblocker, Vigilante. (Counterpart to any roleblocker or vigilante)
Corrupt Dataware - Jester Cult.
This makes sense and I can bet behind this. Breaking the game to win is A-OK

[MattZed]

But seriously.

By day 2, we have already established the Role List by actions.



Journalist - Interview a player. (Counterpart is Corrupt Journalist)
Security Officer - Heal a player.
White Hat Hacker - Roleblock a player. (Counterpart is Black Hat Hacker)
IP Changer - Bus Driver two players. (Counterpart is Rerouter)
Dataminer - Spiritualist?

Datatester - Sheriff. (Counterpart might be Corrupt Tester)
Route Manager - Vigilante. (Counterpart might be Glitch)
Administrator - Mayor.
Report Manager - Super Investigator, with disadvantages. (Counterpart is Corrupt Tester)
Coder - Roleblocking Wtf-ish-Mason

Mod Dealer - Drug Dealer (RANDOM!!!)
Black Hat Hacker - Roleblocker. (Counterpart is White Hat)
Corrupt Journalist - Interview. (Counterpart is Journalist)
Corrupt Tester - Super Investigator. (Counterpart is Report Manager, maybe Datatester)
Rerouter - Bus Driver. (Counterpart is IP Changer)

Glitch - Roleblocker, Vigilante. (Counterpart to any roleblocker or vigilante)
Corrupt Dataware - Jester Cult.
You do realize it's possible to have a rolelist without enough feedback to tell us this, right?

[RLVG]

The only benefit to claim Player is to be the following roles :

Glitch_44, Corrupt Dataware, guranteed "Player" by Report Manager.
Scum wouldn't want to be on the limelight by getting them lynched, unless they claim Datatester.

Drug Dealer is a serious one, but as they don't have "actual" actions other than drugging, the Sheriff can see them easy. Easy "Player" claimer.



Wow, less players than you expect when MC at D2.

[MattZed]

Misrepresenting someone seems scummy and worth calling out.

Question: if its obvious how can it be a reaction bait?
That was hardly a misrep.

[Toadette]

You do realize it's possible to have a rolelist without enough feedback to tell us this, right?
You seem to really be against this. Worried about what you'll claim?

[Toadette]

That was hardly a misrep.
No it was an obvious misrep.

[RLVG]

Inb4 MattZed is a Yoloswag Mayor like last time.

[MattZed]

You seem to really be against this. Worried about what you'll claim?
Sanity check: This setup doesn't really have much more publicly available role information than your standard setup, and most games don't end in a game-breaking D2 massclaim. Why would it be so successful in this game, but not in previous ones?

[RLVG]

The UnSpoken Plan Gurantee.

Classic.

I want you to contribute more while we make a strategy guide out of the game.

[RLVG]

Sanity check: This setup doesn't really have much more publicly available role information than your standard setup, and most games don't end in a game-breaking D2 massclaim. Why would it be so successful in this game, but not in previous ones?

D1 is too early, D3 is too late. D2 is just about adequate.

[MattZed]

Inb4 MattZed is a Yoloswag Mayor like last time.
This man knows how to respect his elected leaders.

So... am I really your best suspect for pressure or do you have something else in the past 10 pages that you found interesting and would like to vote from?

[Toadette]

This man knows how to respect his elected leaders.

So... am I really your best suspect for pressure or do you have something else in the past 10 pages that you found interesting and would like to vote from?
That's pretty bad if you're sweating from pressure already with no votes on you.

[Firebringer]

I want you to contribute more while we make a strategy guide out of the game.

I have been contributing, I like you speculating on the setup though it does look like you are fishing for power roles to claim.

I am with TheDarkestLight, no role claims today would be idea for PR. Unless we are about to lynch a PR, then please claim.

[Firebringer]

That's pretty bad if you're sweating from pressure already with no votes on you.

MattZed never frets, he knows he is always on the table for a lynch lol.

[RLVG]

So... am I really your best suspect for pressure or do you have something else in the past 10 pages that you found interesting and would like to vote from?

Look at it like this : It's Day 1.

You're either outing a PR, or you're outing a lying scum. A roleclaim will not gurantee a Day 1 lynch.
There's also the possibility of a Player, which has different responses depending on the current S-FM players.

I'm leaning towards No Lynch / Skip for this day only.

[RLVG]

Look at it like this : It's Day 1.

You're either outing a PR, or you're outing a lying scum. A roleclaim will not gurantee a Day 1 lynch.
There's also the possibility of a Player, which has different responses depending on the current S-FM players.

I'm leaning towards No Lynch / Skip for this day only.

This is why I want to pressure MZ, because I can be a dick, and because I'm yet to comprehend your actual scum play.

[Toadette]

Why would a no lynch be beneficial to town in this situation?

[RLVG]

Why would a no lynch be beneficial to town in this situation?

Statistically there's more town than scum, making it very easy to mislynch.

Without a lynch, neither town nor Scum has adequate information.
Mafia would avoid killing the Corrupted Dataware, so they might even opt-in for a No Kill.

Don't forget that Glitch_44 can kill if we mislynch.

[Toadette]

You make a fine point.

[MattZed]

That's pretty bad if you're sweating from pressure already with no votes on you.
Cute. I may like you yet.


Why would a no lynch be beneficial to town in this situation?
Because Glitch only kills if we mislynch. If we lynch town, we could wake up tomorrow in a 5v3v1v1.

Then again, chances of Glitch hitting non-town is pretty decent, and if we ever we able to afford a mislynch, today is the day.

MattZed proposes blood for the blood god. May there be a lynch today.

[Firebringer]

Noctiz is the blood god, and I am his disciple.

I do not approve of this lynch as of now.

[Toadette]

Mattzed also makes his first good point of the night.

[MattZed]

Also, did RLVG say something about not knowing my scumplay?

I was scum in S-FM 147. Were you not observing how I did it? lol

[Toadette]

Noctiz is the blood god, and I am his disciple.

I do not approve of this lynch as of now.
Of which lynch?? You were wanting to lynch Superjack earlier!

[MattZed]

Mattzed also makes his first good point of the night.
I dislike how much I am compelled to like you.

[Firebringer]

Of which lynch?? You were wanting to lynch Superjack earlier!

Of course I approve my lynch.

I don't approve of MattZeds lynch targets. They never pan out.

[MattZed]

Once upon a time, I believed that a good way to proceed in the game was to lynch the players who were the most illogical in their reasoning.

Turns out towns actually just tend to be dumb and that the people who know what's going on are actually just evil. Probably the scum instinct to give more of a shit or something.

[RLVG]

Also, did RLVG say something about not knowing my scumplay?

I was scum in S-FM 147. Were you not observing how I did it? lol

I want you to tell me what my scum play is then. Go on.

These can be changed easily and some of them during the day, if you're being entirely yourself with a same playstyle then there's no characteristic difference between town and scum.
That's one of the things that makes me hard to read.

[MattZed]

Of course I approve my lynch.

I don't approve of MattZeds lynch targets. They never pan out.
Do you have any idea how many times Hyper has actually been scum when I led a train on him?

But that's beside the point. My building train on Mike (which y'all are welcome to join at any time) is not the main topic of discussion; you have many valid options that aren't the people I'm focusing on.

[RLVG]

Do you have any idea how many times Hyper has actually been scum when I led a train on him?

LEAVE HYPERSNIPER ALONE

[Firebringer]

I want you to tell me what my scum play is then. Go on.

These can be changed easily and some of them during the day, if you're being entirely yourself with a same playstyle then there's no characteristic difference between town and scum.
That's one of the things that makes me hard to read.

You are scary as scum....


I am actually a bit scared now.

*goes into a corner and curls into a ball*

[RLVG]

By the way, here's a fun fact.

Corrupted Dataware is a Jester that gives the Glitch_44 permanent night kill ability.
Someone that wants to get lynched, will be seen as an offender.

When one descends into appropriate madness, suspect them immediately.

[MattZed]

I want you to tell me what my scum play is then. Go on.

These can be changed easily and some of them during the day, if you're being entirely yourself with a same playstyle then there's no characteristic difference between town and scum.
That's one of the things that makes me hard to read.
Ehhhh too meta. If I played the same way every game, I couldn't optimize for my wincon at the time.

[RLVG]

If I played the same way every game

SOMEONE ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND MY "8 PLAYSTYLE" THING

[Firebringer]

On the bright side, if we mislynch theres a chance the glitch will kill another scum player.

[RLVG]

On the bright side, if we mislynch theres a chance the glitch will kill another scum player.

4 non-action roles + 2 utility roles + 2 executive roles, versus three utility/synergy roles, knowing who the Corrupt Dataware is by default.

Statistically, Town is easier to target and one kill on Town can lead to a gamebreaking result.

[RLVG]

Can we afford loosing 1 of 4 PR that we have? No.

[MattZed]

Alright, enough circlejerk about how good we are at meta.

Two things:
1. You all using hidden mode are cowards.
2. If you were a Router Manager, would you shoot someone tonight, and if so, who?

[RLVG]

4 non-action roles + 2 utility roles + 2 executive roles, versus three utility/synergy roles, knowing who the Corrupt Dataware is by default.

A mislynch is likely on a Player, so change it to 3 non-action roles, making it more likely to hit a PRc

[MattZed]

Can we afford loosing 1 of 4 PR that we have? No.
No role currently in the game is so valuable that it cannot be lost.

[Firebringer]

Alright, enough circlejerk about how good we are at meta.

Two things:
1. You all using hidden mode are cowards.
2. If you were a Router Manager, would you shoot someone tonight, and if so, who?

I would shoot you, cause you surviving for more than a day means you are obviously scum.

lolololol

No honestly, I would shoot SuperJack.

[RLVG]

Alright, enough circlejerk about how good we are at meta.

Two things:
1. You all using hidden mode are cowards.
2. If you were a Router Manager, would you shoot someone tonight, and if so, who?


I have nothing to hide, but Invisibility Mode is helpful when it comes to that players don't taunt me while I'm reading on a thread. This has caused a mislynch 4 times in the past, fucking annoying.
I'd shoot Zekrom2802.

[MattZed]

I have nothing to hide, but Invisibility Mode is helpful when it comes to that players don't taunt me while I'm reading on a thread. This has caused a mislynch 4 times in the past, fucking annoying.
I'd shoot Zekrom2802.

1. Do you think we're really all so bad at this game that we'd mislynch you just on that?
2. HOLY SHIT YOU WOULD USE YOUR VIG POWER N1 ON SOMEONE WHO HASN'T SPOKEN YET. Please explain.

[Firebringer]

No one has ever taunted me to post, lol.

Maybe cause I am a habitual poster, I hardly ever 'lurk' usually I just post if I read the thread.

[RLVG]

No role currently in the game is so valuable that it cannot be lost.

YOU WOT M8

You can't be serious.

Security Officer (Doctor)
White Hats Hacker (Roleblocker)
IP Changer (Bus Driver, can redirect kills to scum)
Dataminer (Reveals the fucking Corrupt Dataware)
Route Manager (Vigilante, can target scum)
Admin (Fucking Mayor, prevents voteblock)

These are the Top 6.

[Firebringer]

1. Do you think we're really all so bad at this game that we'd mislynch you just on that?
2. HOLY SHIT YOU WOULD USE YOUR VIG POWER N1 ON SOMEONE WHO HASN'T SPOKEN YET. Please explain.

If you are town reading all players that were inactive, are you saying you would keep the lurkers alive who are null and basically useless to town even if they are town?

Well they could be PR, since considering site meta PR like to lurk just as much as scum unfortunately

[RLVG]

2. HOLY SHIT YOU WOULD USE YOUR VIG POWER N1 ON SOMEONE WHO HASN'T SPOKEN YET. Please explain.

I saw him reading on this thread, lel.

[Firebringer]

I saw him reading on this thread, lel.

#Hypocrite.


This is too funny.