S-FM 145: Charmander's Revenge

[Stealthbomber16]

SpaekNuts

Conglaturations.

SparkNutes

[Cryptonic]

Dat phone spelling
SPARKNUTS

[Stealthbomber16]

SparkNutes

You win that round...

SparkNuts

GOTEM

[Stealthbomber16]

WAIT WAIT WAIT

HMM



I'm going back to read stuff.

[Cryptonic]

You do that, but my vote ain't changing today lol
8 people left with 2 people converted
That's 5v3 with no convert and kill only tonight, so we still have a free day

[Stealthbomber16]

hello I'm an important town power role doc on me pls thanks
seeya all tmr shitlords (except u doc, ur not a shitlord)


You do that, but my vote ain't changing today lol
8 people left with 2 people converted
That's 5v3 with no convert and kill only tonight, so we still have a free day

No, its 7v3. PTR had a conversion.

If we mislynch its 6v3

Then at night
4v4
GG

...Welcome to MYLO!

[Stealthbomber16]

hello I'm an important town power role doc on me pls thanks
seeya all tmr shitlords (except u doc, ur not a shitlord)


No, its 7v3. PTR had a conversion.

If we mislynch its 6v3

Then at night
4v4
GG

...Welcome to MYLO!

wait
5v3, not 4v4. they cant convert after that
We still have a problem though.

[Cryptonic]

I guess if I'm converted Squirtle going for a gambit, then it'd be town lose if we misslynch. So I understand hesitation

Here is what I suggest:
Either lynch Sparknuts and trust me or..
No lynch today and have me either check another player or have me die tonight and confirm that SparkNuts is poke-slave.
Either way this are the two best options.
Option 1 is best from my POV, option 2 from everyone elses

[Cryptonic]

No, its 7v3. PTR had a conversion.

If we mislynch its 6v3

Then at night
4v4
GG

...Welcome to MYLO!

No its 5v3, but it is mylo, yes.
8 ppl alive
Also, max 2 poke-slaves

[Cryptonic]

Can't be 4v4

[Cryptonic]

Wish my comp wasn't broken, annoying to post from phone lol

[RLVG]

Good morning
Sorry about the miss lynch yest, but he did have some scum slips. Plus better to lynch a Magikarp rather than Squirtle.

Looks like Charmander was converted n1.

Any who, I decided to bite SparkNuts last night and found he was a member of the Poke-Slaves. Regardless of which Poke-Slave he is, they won't be able to concert after losing a member

SpaekNuts

You can't investigate.

[Cryptonic]

You can't investigate.

Read role card pls

[Cryptonic]

Squirtle:*
Can use one of two moves every night:
Water gun:*Douse a player in water at night, protecting them from capture, ash, poison, or being burned by charmander/captured charmander. Does not remove ash from target if previously covered in ash.
- Neither target nor Squirtle is notified of protection or attempted attacks/ash douses
- Cannot self-target
Bite:*Target one player to determine alignment.

[RLVG]

So you didn't squirt someone.

Oh god that wording.

[Cryptonic]

It is MYLO, so if you don't trust me today for misslynching MattZed, then no lynch is the best bet for today and wait for LYLO. I will have immunity, cause my death will reveal SparkNuts. I can either try to save from Charmander, or investigate again.

[RLVG]

Any who, I decided to bite SparkNuts last night and found he was a member of the Poke-Slaves. Regardless of which Poke-Slave he is, they won't be able to concert after losing a member

SpaekNuts


Order of Operations:

Squirtle uses bite
Pokémon Trainer Red captures pokemon.




This is either Charmander, or the Trainer. It's not a 3rd member.

Sparknuts

[Cryptonic]

So you didn't squirt someone.

Oh god that wording.

No, I assumed Charmander wasn't converted N0. I didn't think he'd burn on N1. Thought it'd be a waste to try use Watergun

[Cryptonic]

Order of Operations:

Squirtle uses bite
Pokémon Trainer Red captures pokemon.




This is either Charmander, or the Trainer. It's not a 3rd member.

Sparknuts

Nice I didn't look at OoO. That's much better than lynching converted Magikarp

[Cryptonic]

I love how the WIFOM worked.
Claim TPR so many times that both Charmander and PTR thought I was Magikarp lol
Didn't kill nor convert me lols

[Cryptonic]

I won't bother checking RLVG tonight lol. Might decide to save him though if Charmander lives.
No one would jump on a wagon so fast to lynch Charmander or PTR. They'd try to discredit me first.
Also, I trust Stealth, even though he unvoted. But still shows the right intention. Brb checking remaining players, forget who else is here

[Cryptonic]

I think SuperJack mightve converted SparkNuts, or vice versa.
Plus, when I pressured him, he responded with a non chalant joke and tried to vote himself. Could be seen as a weak way to throw off suspicion.
If we lynch Spark today and he flips PTR, Bulbasaur should block SuperJack

[RLVG]

MVP Crypt.

[Cryptonic]

Nah but I was sure I was gonna be converted. I'm not gonna lie, I thought the game would be easier if I could kill at night lolololol

[Firebringer]

SparkNuts

I am pretty sure Cryptonic is on the up and up now, kinda feel stupid for trying to lynch him other day.

I would say Psyduck is CHarmander that got converted.

[Cryptonic]

Also, sorry MattZed. In an MFM I hosted once, an Arsonist kept asking questions about Executioner publically so people thought he was one. I had no leads and thought you were doing that too :(

[Cryptonic]

Also, before scum says that I am Squirtle who was converted n1 and trying to get a misslynch...
Let me say that that does not make sense given both Charmander and Squirtle would be converted. If Poke-Slaves had 2 kills, then I would just try to lie low until the night and win. I wouldn't need to force a misslynch and bring unnecessary attention to myself.
Plus, Bulbasaur would just block me tonight if Spark flips anything except Poke-Slave. It would be a bad plan

[Cryptonic]

Wait I guess it wouldn't be that bad of a plan, unless it got me lynched.
1 misslynch + kill = 3v3.
So I guess that is a valid argument against me

[Firebringer]

For the record, I am Bulbasaur.

Blocked RLVG last night, so I know he isn't Charmander.

[RLVG]

For the record, I am Bulbasaur.

Blocked RLVG last night, so I know he isn't Charmander.

Is that 100% true?

I don't believe you, because there's no reason for Bulbasaur to out itself now.

[Firebringer]

Is that 100% true?

I don't believe you, because there's no reason for Bulbasaur to out itself now.

Theres actually plenty of reasons

1) If Sparknuts is Red, he can't convert anymore pokemon if has captured two right now.
2) Charmander now has to pick me or Cryptonic to kill. This limits who Cryptonic has to kill and who I should block so we can organize better.

[RLVG]

Cryptonic can't kill as he's unconverted.
Bulbasaur is the one who can roleblock.

If Red is smart and we'll lynch Charmander, he'll pick either of the two of you.

[Firebringer]

Cryptonic can't kill as he's unconverted.
Bulbasaur is the one who can roleblock.

If Red is smart and we'll lynch Charmander, he'll pick either of the two of you.

I might have misplayed this. . . .

[Cryptonic]

PTR can't convert tonight if we lynch a Poke-Slave

[DarknessB]

Okay, I want everyone to know how disappointed I am in Firebringer. He ruined a perfectly fine TPR by not thinking about the WIFOM. Banana will be attempting to start again later (between this week and next week), we will all receive new roles (probably just secondary roles), and Firebringer will be barred from TPR until he can prove to Banana that he thought about the WIFOM.

Seriously though, I've been reading through the posts and Cryptonic seems trustworthy -- notwithstanding our collective fuck up on MattZed, but five others thought the same thing as well (myself included) and his questions were sufficiently odd given splash does nothing. In any event, Cryptonic has tried to be systematic about his approach / votes from the beginning so I'd be inclined to believe him unless there's a really plausible counterclaim out of right field or something crazy like that.

Lastly, it once again concerns me that we have so many quiet people in this game (SuperJack, Psyduck, etc.). I get that there are a lot of Magikarp, but it still helps to know what everyone is thinking.


I might have misplayed this. . . .

[SuperJack]

I'm going to have to read this. Not read it since my last post.

[Stealthbomber16]

I read through and I can actually see the possibility that Cryptonic is PTR who captured Squirtle last night.

I will post my analysis shortly.

[Cryptonic]

I read through and I can actually see the possibility that Cryptonic is PTR who captured Squirtle last night.

I will post my analysis shortly.

I'll wait patiently

[Stealthbomber16]

hello I'm an important town power role doc on me pls thanks
seeya all tmr shitlords (except u doc, ur not a shitlord)

Seems like a troll post, yet he enforces it throughout the game.


I would like everyone to do the following.

Put in order from LEAST LIKELY to MOST LIKELY be PTR based on whether you think that player would convert you at night. Doesn't have to be an exact science behind it, just a rough feel. Don't use too much PP making this list, we don't have many ethers.

Mine:

Bruno
Stealthbomber16
RLVG
SuperJack
MattZed
SparkNuts
Firebringer
DarknessB
Psyduck


In the end, we will compare all the lists and find a common user on a list. It also helps cause we might be able to determine who's list seems fake (ie. trying to hide the fact that they were converted (if anyone was)). Also helps us to know who might be PTR after a converted player dies, assuming their list is a lie.

Wants to see peoples lists to see who thinks they wouldn't be captured by him, then capture them.


ok setting this as my vote for today unless needed to lynch someone else

Firebringer
IDK why, but Darkness' list makes me feel this way.

Admittedly voting with no idea what he is doing.


I saw we lynch either Firebringer or Darkness today, and RB the other if they flip scum lol. But that's just the opinion of one man after <50% of the game has posted lol

Inconsistency on an idea in one post.


Look at how he refuses to give a list. Makes a joke about it, even. Completely unhelpful and anti-town.
Makes me think he's just a useless cit

Inconsistency.


I claim TPR and you vote me. Good job

Tries to glorify a troll post.


Firebringer still ignores the fact that I claim TPR and he's voting me.

Tries to glorify a troll post.


I don't like how you're just following Firebringer around, arguably the loudest player in the game lol
Herpderp maybe if I just follow him, he won't accuse me

Inconsistency.

[SuperJack]

Wow. Crazy Shit.

[SuperJack]

RLVG - Not Charmander
Cryptonic -Squirtle
Firebringer -Bulbasaur
SuperJack -KARP
SparkNuts - Not Charmander/PTR
Psyduck - ???
DarknessB - ???
Stealthbomber16 - ???


Is this right?

[Firebringer]

RLVG - Not Charmander
Cryptonic -Squirtle
Firebringer -Bulbasaur
SuperJack -KARP
SparkNuts - Not Charmander/PTR
Psyduck - ???
DarknessB - ???
Stealthbomber16 - ???


Is this right?

Yes except SparkNuts could be Charmander.

[SuperJack]

Yes except SparkNuts could be Charmander.

If he was checked by Cryptonic on N1, then he can not be Charmander. Since Charmander was converted Night 0 correct?

Also. All that information is going by trusting what you are all saying.

I'm up for lyncing Shadow/Psyduck/Darkness.

[DarknessB]

Who is Shadow?


If he was checked by Cryptonic on N1, then he can not be Charmander. Since Charmander was converted Night 0 correct?

Also. All that information is going by trusting what you are all saying.

I'm up for lyncing Shadow/Psyduck/Darkness.

[Firebringer]

If he was checked by Cryptonic on N1, then he can not be Charmander. Since Charmander was converted Night 0 correct?

Also. All that information is going by trusting what you are all saying.

I'm up for lyncing Shadow/Psyduck/Darkness.

I don't see any reason to doubt Cryptonic, nobody has counter claimed Squirtle, and even so we know Squirtle couldn't have been converted N0, unless he was converted last night . . . Ohhh shit.

unvote

I have to think this a little more. .

[Cryptonic]

If he was checked by Cryptonic on N1, then he can not be Charmander. Since Charmander was converted Night 0 correct?

Also. All that information is going by trusting what you are all saying.

I'm up for lyncing Shadow/Psyduck/Darkness.

Wat? N0 charmander became pokeslave
if I check n1, why would he not be Charmander pokeslave?

Also ur so scummy lol

[SuperJack]

Wat? N0 charmander became pokeslave
if I check n1, why would he not be Charmander pokeslave?

Also ur so scummy lol

Thanks.

Also, Shadows I ment stealth, same shit right.

[Cryptonic]

While we still have time, we might as well discuss other leads and thoughts

[Cryptonic]

Seems like a troll post, yet he enforces it throughout the game.



Wants to see peoples lists to see who thinks they wouldn't be captured by him, then capture them.



Admittedly voting with no idea what he is doing.



Inconsistency on an idea in one post.



Inconsistency.



Tries to glorify a troll post.



Tries to glorify a troll post.



Inconsistency.

Seems like a troll post, actually is WIFOM. Think hard about outcomes occur by me saying that over and over on day 1.

Actually, I explained the point of the list was to look for a list that seemed fake or made up lol. PTR is going for Charmander and Squirtle, not for people who are inconspicuous. TPRs are Red's greatest threat and greatest ally. If I were red, I wouldn't give a shit who I converted tbh, as long as I thought they were TPR. I also wouldn't convert N0 because risk of hitting Magikarp is too high.

I did admit I didn't know what I was doing qhen I voted Firebringer lol. No one knew what they were doing lol. We had no feedback and I was just going with a guy feeling at the time lol.

How is my post about fire and darkness inconsistent, please explain instead of just throwing around random words.

Inconsistency again, please explain.

I wasn't trying to glorify a troll post. It was legit. Why would someone try to lynch someone claiming TPR. What more can I do to defend myself without giving out my exact role and getting converted lol. Plus, reaffirming my TPR stance kept me unconverted due to WIFOM.

you use the same argument against me for me repeating a post? Lol its like you're trying to make me seem double as scummy for saying something twice so Firebringer acknowledged what I said. Looks like you're grasping for straws.

Inconsistency how? Once again you use that word without explaining yourself. So really, it means nothing cause it seems pretty consistent with the attitude of the rest of my posts lol




I'm checking Stealth tonight cause of this bs lol. If ur wasting my night with ur shitty arguments, imma be mad

[Firebringer]

So far the few things I know are:

RLVG is probably the lest likely to be evil, he could be captured magikarp or Red but I doubt both.

Cryptonic is Squirtle 100%, he could be captured and giving us fake feedback this concerns me.

Stealthbomber16 and Cryptonic are probably not on a team. Maybe SuperJack and Cryptonic, but I doubt that too.

So if Cryptonic is evil I think his allies are:
DarknessB--Red or Charmander
Psyduck--Red or Charmander

If Cryptonic is still on our side:
SparkNuts--Charmander or Red
Psyduck--Red or Charmander whichever SparkNuts isn't.
SuperJack-Converted MagiKarp perhaps.

[Firebringer]

No posts in a really long time, we need some discussion.

I want to hear more from:
Psyduck
SuperJack
and DarknessB

All of these players haven't contributed much.

[DarknessB]

I've been far more involved in discussion than Psyduck and SuperJack combined, especially on Day 1, so I'm not sure why I was included on Firebringer's list.

In any event, after flipping through everything again, here's my current take on each player, ranked from most likely Town to most likely Scum:

1. RLVG. He seems staunchly Town and has put good thought into his posts so far. He is also trying to move discussion forward, which gives me confidence that he is Town-aligned.

2. Stealthbomber16. He has been appropriately cautious about jumping onto lynch trains and seems to have good judgment overall -- i.e. he does not cast votes before giving good thought to them.

3. Cryptonic. He is likely one of the TPRs and may have uncovered a poke-slave, unless he was captured as Stealth thought could be the case. He generally seems Town-aligned in his comments.

4. Firebringer. He is hard to read and a bit erratic with his suspicions at times. That said, he did not jump on the MattZed lynch train and he has been attempting to get people to talk, which is helpful for the Town. He also claimed a TPR without any counterclaim.

5. SparkNuts. He was a reasonably good contributor during Day 1 and didn't rush to lynch MattZed. He could be a Poke-Slave if Cryptonic is right, but could also be Town if Cryptonic is wrong / captured. I would like to hear a bit more from him.

6. SuperJack. He has said very little overall and lurked for most of Day 1. He also abruptly came back during Day 2 and advocated lynching several players without providing any reason or explanation for why he suspected them.

7. Psyduck. He has not spoken at all aside from casting his vote to lynch MattZed on Day 1. Host meta might lead me to believe that he received a Scum role and has been attempting to lurk for that very reason.


No posts in a really long time, we need some discussion.

I want to hear more from:
Psyduck
SuperJack
and DarknessB

All of these players haven't contributed much.

[Cryptonic]

Lol stealth isn't appropriate cautious
He is discrediting me with 0 reasoning behind the things he says. "Inconsistency" is all he says, and he wont even explain how.

How the fuck can stealth be solid green to you lol

[Stealthbomber16]

Lol stealth isn't appropriate cautious
He is discrediting me with 0 reasoning behind the things he says. "Inconsistency" is all he says, and he wont even explain how.

How the fuck can stealth be solid green to you lol

Because I am


2. Stealthbomber16. He has been appropriately cautious about jumping onto lynch trains and seems to have good judgment overall -- i.e. he does not cast votes before giving good thought to them.

I can see how you are mad that someone being doubtful of your sheriff results is a better townread than you, if you were a new player, but there isn't much of an excuse.

Tell me, why did you decide to check SparkNuts when there are better people to check, aka, Firebringer and/or Psyduck.

I'm being cautious because this is MYLO. Answer this question and maybe I will trust you.

Its day 2 MYLO, Banana. Nice balance you got there.

[Stealthbomber16]

Requesting a prod on Psyduck.

[Psyduck]

Requesting a prod on Psyduck.

stealthbomber16

[Stealthbomber16]

stealthbomber16

Now that you're here, give me your opinion on Cryptonic/SparkNuts conflict.

[Psyduck]

Now that you're here, give me your opinion on Cryptonic/SparkNuts conflict.

I was here the whole time, I'm new to fm , I'm reading

[Stealthbomber16]

I was here the whole time, I'm new to fm , I'm reading

I want everyone to know how dissapointed I am in Psyduck... etc etc

[Psyduck]

I want everyone to know how dissapointed I am in Psyduck... etc etc

I'm disappointed in you , you only have 51 posts !

[Stealthbomber16]

I'm disappointed in you , you only have 51 posts !

Posts in FMs don't count toward that :unsure:

[Psyduck]

Posts in FMs don't count toward that :unsure:

okay.. well you joined in march 2015 , i'm disappointed in you I joined in july 2012

[DarknessB]

I'm a little concerned that Psyduck's immediate reaction to being asked to participate was to vote the person who asked him to do so...

Stealth didn't even accuse you of anything, lol.

[Cryptonic]

Stealth why did you ignore my last post.
You voted with me today and I want to believe you're town, but you discrediting me and not explaining your argument :(
So pls respond

[Cryptonic]

Is ur computer lagging?

[Cryptonic]

I can fix that

[Cryptonic]

I'm disappointed in you , you only have 51 posts !

hello

[Psyduck]

I think cryptonic is pokemon red

[Cryptonic]

I think cryptonic is pokemon red

Why do you think that?
Who else is claiming Squirtle?

[Stealthbomber16]

Stealth why did you ignore my last post.
You voted with me today and I want to believe you're town, but you discrediting me and not explaining your argument :(
So pls respond

-_-


Look at how he refuses to give a list. Makes a joke about it, even. Completely unhelpful and anti-town.
Makes me think he's just a useless cit

Inconsistency is bolded.


I don't like how you're just following Firebringer around, arguably the loudest player in the game lol
Herpderp maybe if I just follow him, he won't accuse me

Inconsistency is bolded.

[Stealthbomber16]

Why do you think that?
Who else is claiming Squirtle?

My case is built around the fact that you got Charmander N0 and Squirtle N1. Extreme luck, but possible based on post analysis.

[Stealthbomber16]

My case is built around the fact that you got Charmander N0 and Squirtle N1. Extreme luck, but possible based on post analysis.

Or maybe you were squirtle and got recruited N1.

Requesting prod on SparkNuts

[Cryptonic]

Just saying, if PTR got both Charmander and Squirtle n0 and n1, then I wouldn't need to work this hard to win as PTR.

This is assuming that you think I am PTR and converted Charmander n0 and Squirtle n1, and then I am using the fact that I converted Squirtle to claim his role ans get a misslynch.
Thats so complex

simple truth:
I'm Squirtle and i found a Poke-Slave n1, which is in 1/4 chance if I chose randomly.

Vote Sparknuts

[SparkNuts]

Sorry I was really busy yesterday, I will be a lot more active again starting later today.

In the last forum mafia I played crypt claimed sheriff as mafia, framed me and got me lynched which won the game for mafia. This is starting to sound pretty familiar. I am just a magikarp, his claim proves to me that he is squirtle who was converted n1. Cryptonic

I will vote him for now but I think we would be better off lynching Charmander if we can find him. Squirtle can only kill once, Charmander can kill every night. It is 5v3 and they have two killing roles now.

Red is probably someone who believed Crypts TPR claim at the beginning.
In my opinion the most likely to least likely to convert Crypt are:
RLVG
Psyduck
Firebringer
SuperJack
DarknessB
Stealthbomber16

RLVG has been following Crypt since the beginning. He might have believed the power role claim and converted him when he could. Psyduck hasn't really said anything so its hard to say but maybe he hasn't been very active and just went off the TPR claim when picking who to convert.

Who do you guys think would be most likely to convert Crypt? Would you rather lynch captured Squirtle or try to find Charmander to lynch him today?

[Cryptonic]

OMGUS

[Cryptonic]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

[Cryptonic]

If both Charmander and Squirtle are converted, town found be fucked. Following my lead will guarantee Charmander or Red to be lynched. Hopefully Charmander.

[SparkNuts]

You were captured last night and want a mis-lynch today because it would pretty much guarantee a win. It is pretty simple.

[Stealthbomber16]

After seeing SparkNuts come back and posting his defense and seeing it try to change the subject I feel comfortable doing this
SparkNuts
I may take this off later based on developments.

[SparkNuts]

What subject am I changing?

[Cryptonic]

You were captured last night and want a mis-lynch today because it would pretty much guarantee a win. It is pretty simple.

No, because if Charmander and Squirtle are both converted, it would he LYLO today. If that's the case, how come NO ONE is acting like it's LYLO? Because it's not, cause I was not converted.

[SparkNuts]

It is LYLO. Charmander killed last night meaning Red converted Charmander n0 for a fact. I am Magikarp, there is no explanation for you saying I am poke-slave other then you being converted n1.

[Stealthbomber16]

What subject am I changing?

This

Red is probably someone who believed Crypts TPR claim at the beginning.
In my opinion the most likely to least likely to convert Crypt are:
RLVG
Psyduck
Firebringer
SuperJack
DarknessB
Stealthbomber16
Is changing the subject on whether we should kill you or not.

[Cryptonic]

Darkness, what are your thoughts on SparkNuts?
SparkNuts, what are your thoughts on Darkness?

[SparkNuts]

I commented on that earlier in the post. Obviously you shouldn't lynch me as I am Magikarp, Crypt is converted Squirtle and cult has two killing roles now.

[DarknessB]

I'm having a hard time reading him to be honest. On Day 1, he seemed very Town-aligned, in terms of not rushing onto the MattZed lynch train -- at least more Town aligned than a number of other players. I can believe that he was legitimately AFK earlier, in terms of not responding faster when you said he showed up as Poke-Slave. Your lead definitely knocked him down a bunch in my player listing from earlier -- i.e. it seems likely that one of you two has to be telling the truth (if not, we're really screwed). Overall, I think I'm where Stealth was earlier on in the day -- there's a decent chance SparkNuts could be Poke-Slave aligned, but the potential LYLO implications of a wrong lynch make me a bit nervous.


Darkness, what are your thoughts on SparkNuts?
SparkNuts, what are your thoughts on Darkness?

[Cryptonic]

Darkness - PTR/Charmander
Sparknuts - Charmander/PTR
Psyduck - Captured Magikarp

Cryptonic - Squirtle
Firebringer - Bulbasaur
RLVG - Magikarp
Steathbomber16 - Magikarp
SuperJack - Magikarp

Magikarps are listed from least scummy to most scummy

[SuperJack]

You checked sparknuts, yet you see him as charmander/ptr?

,Cryptonic

[Cryptonic]

You checked sparknuts, yet you see him as charmander/ptr?

,Cryptonic

What... yes... I checked him and he was pokeslave
What

[SuperJack]

He was now?

[SuperJack]

So cryptonic vs sparks. I misread lol. All this time.

[SuperJack]

Sparknuts is ish pickachu. Is ish ash. Is ish red. I get it. He is ptr.

[Cryptonic]

He's confirmed Pokeslave.
It's MYLO so we can nolynch, but I'd understand objections if anyone thinks it's LYLO.

[Cryptonic]

I'd prefer to lynch Sparknuts than no lynch though.
SuperJack might be Pokeslave because he didn't invite.
Psyduck might be wild still

[Cryptonic]

Invite = unvote

[SuperJack]

I didn't invite? What's invite?

I'm still considering the crypt vs sparks. Since Crypt is a good player. He would be a very good player to convert. And after collecting charmander, they would want better players since they had power now.

[SuperJack]

How many hours left? I would want to read through both players and see who I prefer.

[DarknessB]

This is what gives me pause too, just like Stealth was thinking before. Somehow, that means I am the scummiest player right now, at least according to Cryptonic's latest list. Crypt has also accused every player at one point or another during this game except for RLVG. I've also noticed that as soon as someone votes with Crypt, the focus is taken off that person (Stealth being the notable example). Something just doesn't smell right here...


I'm still considering the crypt vs sparks. Since Crypt is a good player. He would be a very good player to convert. And after collecting charmander, they would want better players since they had power now.

[Cryptonic]

I didn't invite? What's invite?

I'm still considering the crypt vs sparks. Since Crypt is a good player. He would be a very good player to convert. And after collecting charmander, they would want better players since they had power now.


Invite = unvote

Also, you have to make so assumptions for that to be true
Truth is much simpler

[Cryptonic]

Darkness, you are the scummiest person other than sparknuts to me lol

[Cryptonic]

If I accuse all other players, doesn't that insinuate that don't know who my allies are?
RLVG is town to me currently because he is helping my cause. Why would I want to accuse a person who is helping me lynch a pokeslave lol. If he is pokeslave too, then I will be impressed

[Cryptonic]

Posting is shit from phone

[DarknessB]

I'm pretty sure RLVG is Town as well, which is probably the biggest reason I have to vote SparkNuts right now. RLVG seems like he knows what he's doing (notwithstanding the fact that we haven't heard from him in a little bit, but I assume he is just AFK). On the other hand, you're accusing me of being scum for no reason other than taking the same time that Stealth took to figure out how to vote.

It's pretty clear that either you were captured (and giving us bad information) or SparkNuts is Poke-Slave (per your lead). That's where we're at right now and with it being MYLO, we need everyone to think this through as best they can.


If I accuse all other players, doesn't that insinuate that don't know who my allies are?
RLVG is town to me currently because he is helping my cause. Why would I want to accuse a person who is helping me lynch a pokeslave lol. If he is pokeslave too, then I will be impressed

[RLVG]

Gee, this town is so apathetic. Vote with us already.

[Firebringer]

Hmmmmm

Cryptonic

I could be wrong, but I think he got converted. Anyways if this fails we are screwed.

Yolo

[Firebringer]

RLVG I still think you are town. Vote with us, I think Cryptonic got converted last night and he faked investigation to get us to lynch Spark.

[Cryptonic]

You all think to much

[BananaCucho]

Just over 22 hours left in day two.

[Firebringer]

If we don't get the lynch of I am roleblocking Stealthbomber16, he might be Charmander.

[Firebringer]

Actually still going to block him regardless what happens.

[Cryptonic]

If I get lynched, role block sparknuts
Has 50% chance of being Charmander

[Firebringer]

If I get lynched, role block sparknuts
Has 50% chance of being Charmander

If you are Squirtle and not just Captured Squirtle, I will block Sparknuts.

I really think you are captured though.

[Cryptonic]

Why do you think that

[Firebringer]

Why do you think that

Voting pattern right now, and gut feeling.

[Cryptonic]

Explain the voting pattern please

[Stealthbomber16]

If we don't get the lynch of I am roleblocking Stealthbomber16, he might be Charmander.


Actually still going to block him regardless what happens.

So I can't splash? Darn.

[Cryptonic]

Darkness and Psyduck should vote for Sparknuts!
If you guys lynch me, Bulbasaur needs to block Charmander or we lose.

[Cryptonic]

I still think Sparknuts has a better chance of being Charmander. 50%.
So if you lynch me, please remember that lol

[SuperJack]

If I get lynched, role block sparknuts
Has 50% chance of being Charmander

Honestly. I like dem Chances.

[Stealthbomber16]

I am willing to take the chance

SparkNuts, this is highly reminiscent of Classic Mafia, isn't it? :D

[Cryptonic]

Honestly. I like dem Chances.

But you're voting me and not him lol

[Psyduck]

okay sounds good, - sparknuts

[Cryptonic]

1 more
Probably needs to be Firebringer, darkness and superjack prolly the others

[SuperJack]

1 more
Probably needs to be Firebringer, darkness and superjack prolly the others

The fact that Psyduck is following you. I dont like.

[DarknessB]

I agree with SuperJack on this point. The fact that Psyduck has been lurking for most of the game, initially voted for Stealth (who was clearly Town), and now without any explanation, changed his vote to SparkNuts (without any explanation either) concerns me. Also, given Psyduck has been high on everyone's scum list, him voting for SparkNuts makes it more likely that Crypt got captured in my opinion.


The fact that Psyduck is following you. I dont like.

[SuperJack]

I agree with SuperJack on this point. The fact that Psyduck has been lurking for most of the game, initially voted for Stealth (who was clearly Town), and now without any explanation, changed his vote to SparkNuts (without any explanation either) concerns me. Also, given Psyduck has been high on everyone's scum list, him voting for SparkNuts makes it more likely that Crypt got captured in my opinion.

Also, I dont like you.

[DarknessB]

LOL, I don't like you either (in this game), but at least you're explaining your thought process, which I can get behind. In contrast, I get a major scumread on Psyduck, especially given all the lurking and abrupt voting. Would be nice if everyone explained their votes -- we still have time to reach a consensus.


Also, I dont like you.

[Stealthbomber16]

LOL, I don't like you either (in this game), but at least you're explaining your thought process, which I can get behind. In contrast, I get a major scumread on Psyduck, especially given all the lurking and abrupt voting. Would be nice if everyone explained their votes -- we still have time to reach a consensus.

I have given reasoning behind my voting on SparkNuts vs Cryptonic.

If we don't get the lynch of I am roleblocking Stealthbomber16, he might be Charmander.
Also, Firebringer, bro. Come back and hammer. I'll be alright if you roleblock me but just hammer.

[SuperJack]

Is Psyduck really scummy, or just being Psyduck?

[Stealthbomber16]

Is Psyduck really scummy, or just being Psyduck?

Why not both?

[Cryptonic]

Psyduck is being less scummy than SJ
You'll all see after Spark is lynched that Darkness and SuperJack are scum that don't want to lynch their own lol

[Firebringer]

Okay so I have been thinking long and hard about this, I think it would be awesome if SparkNuts shows up as Red/Charmander, but I just don't think he is. . .

So here is plan:

If SparkNuts is Red/Charmander, Cryptonic check DarknessB. I will block SuperJack.

If SparkNuts isn't Charmander/Red. I am pretty sure we are screwed. I will block someone else (because blocking crypt would be a waste)

So lets go.

[Firebringer]

SparkNuts

[The Godfather]

SparkNuts has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


SparkNuts ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/4700') (5 [L-0]): Cryptonic ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=489008'), Stealthbomber16 ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=489299'), RLVG ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=489024'), Firebringer ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=489472'), Psyduck ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=489435')
Cryptonic ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/5896') (2 [L-3]): SparkNuts ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=489289'), SuperJack ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=489355')

[BananaCucho]

Night 2


The pokemon stood their ground, ready to fight. The quantity of pokemon rising to defend the forest caught Red and his pal completely off guard. Swarms of pokemon rallied and charged the trainer and his pal, including a bunch of these guys:


http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/sugarandteeth/Pokemon%20Stuff/Croagunk_Swarm.gif


Charmander toasted pokemon after pokemon, but even as each fell in battle it seemed like two more appeared to replace each fallen warrior. Overwhelmed, he started to struggle, when he heard Red yelling behind him. He turned to see Red under siege - the pokemon were attacking the trainer instead of charmander!

As Red called for help, Charmander turned his back on him. Before him was an opportunity; a renewed chance at freedom and to live another day. Abandoning his trainer, he fled through the forest as his master, Pokemon Trainer Red, fell to the ground.


http://www.dramafever.com/st/news/images/Ash.gif


SparkNuts also known as Pokemon Trainer Red, was lynched.


Players List

RLVG
Cryptonic
Firebringer
SuperJack
Psyduck
DarknessB
Stealthbomber16



Roles List

Charmander
Bulbasaur
Squirtle
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Pokemon Trainer Red


Graveyard

MattZed - Magikarp - Lynched Day 1
Bruno - Shiney Magikarp - Killed Night 1 by flamethrower
SparkNuts - Pokemon Trainer Red - Lynched Day 2


Night 2 will end in 24 hours (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=9%3A30+pm+mdt+June+28th)

[BananaCucho]

Day 3

The wild Pokémon victory of Day 2 was short lived. Many of the forest pokemon had fallen in battle, and almost all of them had sustained injuries.

Cryptonic, a Squirtle who had been an integral part of the battle, suffered all through the night from his burns.


http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq2j20EdG61qd8t4mo1_500.gif


Just before the sun rose, squirtle shared his last words with the other Pokémon. Struggling to speak, he opened his mouth to say:

Squirtle Squirtle Squirtle Squirtle.
Squirtle Squirtle Squirtle.
Squirtle Squirtle Squirtle Squirtle.
Squirtle! Squirtle!

And then he was gone.

Cryptonic, a Squirtle, was killed at night by flamethrower.


Players List

RLVG
Firebringer
SuperJack
Psyduck
DarknessB
Stealthbomber16



Roles List

Charmander
Bulbasaur
Squirtle
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Pokemon Trainer Red


Graveyard

MattZed - Magikarp - Lynched Day 1
Bruno - Shiney Magikarp - Killed Night 1 by flamethrower
SparkNuts - Pokemon Trainer Red - Lynched Day 2
Cryptonic - Squirtle - Killed Night 2 by flamethrower

Please ask host questions in green if there are any.

With 6 players alive, it takes 4

Day 3 will end in 48 hours (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=9%3A30+pm+mdt+June+30th&x=0&y=0)

[Firebringer]

Well I blocked DarknessB last night, he wasn't charmander obviously. . . Could still be Captured pokemon though.

Right now I think SuperJack or Psyduck.

Going with the duck though

Psyduck

[DarknessB]

If Psyduck was Charmander, why would he vote for Red as soon as Cryptonic asked him to do so? If anything, isn't Charmander more likely SuperJack who cast a vote against Cryptonic yesterday? Really don't follow your logic on this one at all. Since Crypt died, we also mislynch here and lose, so why are you so eager to vote just as the day opened?


Well I blocked DarknessB last night, he wasn't charmander obviously. . . Could still be Captured pokemon though.

Right now I think SuperJack or Psyduck.

Going with the duck though

Psyduck

[Firebringer]

If Psyduck was Charmander, why would he vote for Red as soon as Cryptonic asked him to do so? If anything, isn't Charmander more likely SuperJack who cast a vote against Cryptonic yesterday? Really don't follow your logic on this one at all. Since Crypt died, we also mislynch here and lose, so why are you so eager to vote just as the day opened?

Going to ignore everything you say, cause I am 90% sure you are Captured MagiKarp.

Psyduck wanted to appear apart of Crypts side obviously, I don't know why I wasn't killed instead. If SuperJack was charmander I would assume he would attack me or maybe cause he knew that if I did go for him he wouldn't kill me, he went for cyrptonic to save you from being found out.

I still think Psyduck is most likely. You are suspect number 2 Darkness and after Psyduck is lynched we lynch you.

[DarknessB]

Why would Red want to capture me? If you think about host WIFOM, I was obviously given Magikarp. Red would want to capture the TPRs -- Bulbasaur (you) or Squirtle (Cryptonic), both of whom have played far more FM than I have. Crypt also outed himself as TPR, but for some reason didn't get captured. Wouldn't it makes far more sense that you got captured, such that Red has Charmander (SuperJack) and Bulbasaur (you)? Your early vote makes me VERY nervous...


Going to ignore everything you say, cause I am 90% sure you are Captured MagiKarp.

Psyduck wanted to appear apart of Crypts side obviously, I don't know why I wasn't killed instead. If SuperJack was charmander I would assume he would attack me or maybe cause he knew that if I did go for him he wouldn't kill me, he went for cyrptonic to save you from being found out.

I still think Psyduck is most likely. You are suspect number 2 Darkness and after Psyduck is lynched we lynch you.

[Stealthbomber16]

Why would Red want to capture me? If you think about host WIFOM, I was obviously given Magikarp. Red would want to capture the TPRs -- Bulbasaur (you) or Squirtle (Cryptonic), both of whom have played far more FM than I have. Crypt also outed himself as TPR, but for some reason didn't get captured. Wouldn't it makes far more sense that you got captured, such that Red has Charmander (SuperJack) and Bulbasaur (you)? Your early vote makes me VERY nervous...

Firebringer, what is your response to this?

IF YOU ARE POISONED YOU BETTER POST NOW

[Stealthbomber16]

Why would Red want to capture me? If you think about host WIFOM, I was obviously given Magikarp. Red would want to capture the TPRs -- Bulbasaur (you) or Squirtle (Cryptonic), both of whom have played far more FM than I have. Crypt also outed himself as TPR, but for some reason didn't get captured. Wouldn't it makes far more sense that you got captured, such that Red has Charmander (SuperJack) and Bulbasaur (you)? Your early vote makes me VERY nervous...

Actually, no it wouldn't. If someone gets poisoned we find out quickly that Firebringer is captured.

[SuperJack]

If fire is converted he did well with his reveal yesterday.

Hopefully, we can hope that fire is still uncaptured.
which means it's Psyduck vs Stealth vs Me.

I can promise you that I'm a magikarp. And I'm not stupid enough to vote crypt knowing he is innocent. My mistakes that I have made through reading the game show that I've misread what's been said.
and I say I'm not intelligent enough to take those mistakes, and if I could i would of made myself more town like instead of posting scummy posts.

So, it comes to. If Fire speaks the truth. That either Psyduck or Stealth is the Charmander.

[SuperJack]

If fire was converted he would not blackmail silly

[Stealthbomber16]

If fire was converted he would not blackmail silly

True true,

Then whats the virtue of getting him over one of us?

[Stealthbomber16]

True true,

Then whats the virtue of getting him over one of us?

...The fact that he can confirm one of us!

...Like DarknessB!

[RLVG]

Psyduck

I think this is the guy we need to lynch today.

Unfortunately, it's Semi-MYLO depending on if they can roleblock the kill. There's without a doubt, a 100% chance there being 2 captured.
Being 4vs2, mislynching makes it 3vs2 and a kill makes it 2vs2.

Good job of roleblocking Darkness, we take the process of elemination from that point on.

[Firebringer]

Stealth I am pretty sure you are on our side, vote with us.

SuperJack I am not positive about you, but if you are Magikarp then vote with me and RLVG.

[Stealthbomber16]

We still have daylight. Wait for Psyduck

[Firebringer]

We still have daylight. Wait for Psyduck

I have no clue what Psyduck can say to change your mind. He is going to come on here and claim MagiKarp like everyone else here except me.

I am telling you its:
Psyduck-Charmander
DarknessB-Captured MagiKarp

[RLVG]

I'm more or less convinced that Psyduck and SuperJack is the scum.

No need for a defense, lynch Psyduck and RB SuperJack.
Source : Voting patterns, contribution of the game, lurking, WIFOM.

[DarknessB]

I'm fine waiting as well -- we really don't want to mess up a lynch today.


We still have daylight. Wait for Psyduck

[RLVG]

I'll abridge what'll happen :

"I'm a magikarp."
"I'm not scum."
"X Something related to Magical Giant Space Flea from nowhere."
And a 1% chance of some random nazi salute.

Consequences of waiting too long : The day time sinks and slowly we don't have more time left to make the actual vote.

[Firebringer]

Lurkers ruin every game, I am sure Psyduck has read some of this or at least isn't actually busy.

[SuperJack]

I'm more or less convinced that Psyduck and SuperJack is the scum.

No need for a defense, lynch Psyduck and RB SuperJack.
Source : Voting patterns, contribution of the game, lurking, WIFOM.

Which I have already pointed out why.

[Firebringer]

This day is going to go to waste, I better hope Its psyduck.

I will block him tonight if we don't get the vote.

[SuperJack]

I'll vote him. but we have plenty of time left right? I vote near the end of the day.

[Firebringer]

I'll vote him. but we have plenty of time left right? I vote near the end of the day.

We have a whole day, but I really don't see the need to use that much time.

[SuperJack]

We have a whole day, but I really don't see the need to use that much time.

Why not use it? I mean, We can end it early, but whats the point? Might aswell leave it open. I'm always up for things to be open the full day. Rushing things and trying to get it closed early normally fucks up when I want to post. Because i'm not NA and i'm EU.

[RLVG]

Why not use it? I mean, We can end it early, but whats the point? Might aswell leave it open. I'm always up for things to be open the full day. Rushing things and trying to get it closed early normally fucks up when I want to post. Because i'm not NA and i'm EU.

If the players were more commited to discussion, then I'd be up for it.
However everyone's lurking and has nothing actually constructive to say. Personally, it kinda died with Crypt gone.

The pro/con of the situation is to lynch early. Scum wants to delay the lynch as much as possible into a No Lynch.
How can we take your gurantee that you'll hammer, town or not?

I'm also pointing that I'm also EU.

[SuperJack]

If the players were more commited to discussion, then I'd be up for it.
However everyone's lurking and has nothing actually constructive to say. Personally, it kinda died with Crypt gone.

The pro/con of the situation is to lynch early. Scum wants to delay the lynch as much as possible into a No Lynch.
How can we take your gurantee that you'll hammer, town or not?

I'm also pointing that I'm also EU.

Because I'm not a Useless wanker.

[SuperJack]

Wasn't Stealth against Crypt at one point? But after Crypt argued back too strongly he gave up?

[SuperJack]

Also, you have to think, who would want Bruno dead? I would not of killed him. It would be someone who can't stand his posts.

[Firebringer]

Also, you have to think, who would want Bruno dead? I would not of killed him. It would be someone who can't stand his posts.

That would make me suspect number 1 lol.

Psyduck probably thought he was TPR for w/e reason

[SuperJack]

That would make me suspect number 1 lol.

Psyduck probably thought he was TPR for w/e reason

The suspects, as long as you are not evil. Are Stealth, Me and Psyduck.

[RLVG]

I personally think Stealth is safe.

[Firebringer]

The suspects, as long as you are not evil. Are Stealth, Me and Psyduck.

I would put darkness on there too. I think he got converted to being a Captured MagiKarp.

[DarknessB]

LOL, you're the one who kept getting into pissing matches with Bruno.

That said, I skimmed the Day 1 posts and pretty much, Bruno lashed out at everyone at one point or another.


I would put darkness on there too. I think he got converted to being a Captured MagiKarp.

[SuperJack]

Charmander, is either Psyduck or Stealth. If Fire is good.

[RLVG]

Charmander, is either Psyduck or Stealth. If Fire is good.

Denying yourself.

Anyway, I absolutely refuse to vote anyone other than Psyduck at the moment.
Dat tunnel brah

[SuperJack]

Denying yourself.

Anyway, I absolutely refuse to vote anyone other than Psyduck at the moment.
Dat tunnel brah

I cannot be Charmander from my POV. I am KARP KARP KARP KARP.

[RLVG]

I cannot be Charmander from my POV. I am KARP KARP KARP KARP.

Of course. The murderer will always sink in towards the public and acuse another of being the murderer.

I think you can actually get away with it in one of the states.

[Psyduck]

firebringer

[Psyduck]

I personally think RLVG is safe...

[RLVG]

firebringer


I personally think RLVG is safe...

Okay guys, you can hammer him now. :suspicious:

[Stealthbomber16]

Okay guys, you can hammer him now. :suspicious:

I agree.

Psyduck

[Stealthbomber16]

I have put in the nail. Hammer it in.

[Firebringer]

Gotta be Super that hammers this.

[DarknessB]

I've been on the fence, but I have and continue to trust Stealth, who has the been the most pro-Town other than RLVG. I'll hammer here, but I really hope Fire is right...

Psyduck


I have put in the nail. Hammer it in.

[The Godfather]

Psyduck has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Psyduck ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/11815') (4 [L-0]): Firebringer ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=489638'), RLVG ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=489718'), Stealthbomber16 ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=489844'), DarknessB ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=489848')
Firebringer ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/15644') (1 [L-3]): Psyduck ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=489837')

[BananaCucho]

Night 3

After the loss of squirtle, the wild pokemon were disorganized. Arguing about who should lead them and what should be done lead to a great division between them. Psyduck, another Magikarp, was placed in charge of the group. After his poor leadership decisions led to the death of several comrades, he flopped off a cliff in shame. As his body fell to its demise, it was struck with lightning on the way down.

That's the best I could come up with atm. Oh yeah, and charmander is still at large.


Psyduck, a Magikarp, was lynched.


Players List

RLVG
Firebringer
SuperJack
DarknessB
Stealthbomber16


Roles List

Charmander
Bulbasaur
Squirtle
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Pokemon Trainer Red


Graveyard

MattZed - Magikarp - Lynched Day 1
Bruno - Shiney Magikarp - Killed Night 1 by flamethrower
SparkNuts - Pokemon Trainer Red - Lynched Day 2
Cryptonic - Squirtle - Killed Night 2 by flamethrower
Psyduck - Magikarp - Lynched Day 3


Night 3 will end in 24 hours (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4%3A00+pm+MDT+June+30th&x=0&y=0)

[BananaCucho]

Day 4

As the sun rose over what was left of the forest on Day 4, the wild pokemon marveled at how much destruction had come upon them due to the actions of one trainer and his angered pokemon. While Charmander was no long occupying the forest, smoke could be seen coming from the nearby mountain. The wild pokemon set off to finish the fight with the pokemon that had destroyed their homes.

As they neared the mountain, Charmander waited patiently and confidently for the final showdown.

http://i57.tinypic.com/2n86h6b.jpg


Nobody was killed at night.


Players List

RLVG
Firebringer
SuperJack
DarknessB
Stealthbomber16


Roles List

Charmander
Bulbasaur
Squirtle
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Pokemon Trainer Red


Graveyard

MattZed - Magikarp - Lynched Day 1
Bruno - Shiney Magikarp - Killed Night 1 by flamethrower
SparkNuts - Pokemon Trainer Red - Lynched Day 2
Cryptonic - Squirtle - Killed Night 2 by flamethrower
Psyduck - Magikarp - Lynched Day 3

With 5 players alive, it takes 3

Day 4 will end in 48 hours (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4%3A00+pm+mdt+july+2nd)

[Firebringer]

I am going afk now, but I blocked SuperJack last night.

GG found Charmander.

SuperJack

[SuperJack]

I bet I was not roleblocked,

[SuperJack]

Stealthbomber16

Well, if you roleblocked me, Stealth didn't kill purposely.

[Firebringer]

Stealthbomber16

[DarknessB]

Stealthbomber16

[The Godfather]

Stealthbomber16 has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Stealthbomber16 ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/15807') (3 [L-0]): Firebringer ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=490133'), SuperJack ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=490132'), DarknessB ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=490134')

[BananaCucho]

As the wild pokemon faced off with Charmander, who also went by the nickname of Firebringer, RLVG, a Bulbasaur successfully cast sleep powder on him. Try as he might, he could not resist the paralyzing effect that overcame him.



As the wild pokemon moved in for the kill, suddenly DarknessB, who had long been their comrade as a Magikarp, turned and slammed Bulbasaur using tackle. He had in fact been captured by Red, and secretly was working against the wild pokemon as a Captured Magikarp. After catching Bulbasaur by surprise, he splashed just enough water onto Charmander to wash the sleep powder off of him - and before they knew it, ash and flames engulfed the last remaining survivors of the forest.



Triumphant, Charmander turned back to the mountain, with his new friend Magikarp by his side.



Epilogue



Charmander gained enough experience to grow to level 16.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzambxXknh1qczibyo1_500.gif

Charmander evolved into Charmeleon!!



In the distance, a team was dispatched to investigate the events that took place. Prepare for trouble..





Roles List



Bulbasaur - RLVG
Squirtle - Cryptonic
Magikarp - MattZed
Shiney Magikarp - Bruno
Magikarp - Psyduck
Magikarp - Stealthbomber16
Magikarp - SuperJack
Pokemon Trainer Red - SparkNuts
Captured Charmander - Firebringer (Captured Night 0)
Captured Magikarp - DarknessB (Captured Night 1)


Congrats to SparkNuts, Firebringer, and DarknessB!


Host Comments



This game turned out better than I hoped! It came right down to the end and honestly once RLVG stated that he was going to roleblock Firebringer I didn't know what was going to happen or who would win.



MVP from my point of view without a doubt goes to Firebringer. When he claimed Bulbasaur, I thought RLVG was going to block him and it would be over. Cryptonic had targeted Darkness that night and would have discovered that he was poke scum, and RLVG would have stopped a night kill GG. But Fire also made an even riskier move and lynched SparkNuts - that seems to have won them the game. Nobody accused Firebringer after that. I'm pretty sure RLVG thought he was a Magikarp hoping to take a bullet. It was a gutsy play and in the end it paid off even though RLVG roleblocked him the last night, given the coordinated quick vote to hammer stealth. Had RLVG been able to present his case, it might not have gone that way.


Any feedback for the game is appreciated!! What didn't you like in terms of the setup? What would you have done differently? What would you like to see in the sequel?

[BananaCucho]

scum chat:
http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/Zd8eEaKwciM

[Cryptonic]

Wtf RLVG why no counterclaim :(

[RLVG]

You lynched immediately, what the fuck.
That was a bad town play.


I was ready to push the town into lynching Fire.
Reason I didn't counterclaim fire was so I could use him as a meatshield, but as he continues to be persistant about it - I saw through his bluff and roleblocked him.

[Cryptonic]

Yea why would a town vote on LYLO when scum only needs 1 town vote :(
I'm sad at how little effort some Magikarps made :(

[RLVG]

Reason I didn't counterclaim fire was so I could use him as a meatshield

I saw this as a townplay, as Citizen wants to be the meatshield. Coincidentally, he was also naming those I roleblocked lol.
After that lynch, I narrowed down the scum by interaction and voting patterns and decided, nope, he isn't a Citizen doing WIFOM to help.

[Cryptonic]

Yea it is town sided, but you still could've counter claimed yesterday.. then if you thought it was town sided for him to claim bulbasaur to save you, then scum mightve thought you write counter claiming to save fire lol
At least would've made town pause and think today lol

[Cryptonic]

Anyways I think this was a good setup
Bulbasaur should have a one use solar beam or something lol

[BananaCucho]

Solar beam is confirmed for the next setup ^_^

[RLVG]

Yea it is town sided, but you still could've counter claimed yesterday.. then if you thought it was town sided for him to claim bulbasaur to save you, then scum mightve thought you write counter claiming to save fire lol
At least would've made town pause and think today lol

I was waiting for today, because I wanted to be as careful as I can with my reads because one mistake can lead to a scum win.
Using WIFOM, I thought Fire was either a Citizen who wanted to be a meatshield, or he could be a scum. (pre-lynch)

If he was a scum, he might want to vote his partner to look towny before attempting to shift the vote onto someone else.
Basically, getting the scum to lynch scum.

After the lynch, I was 100% confident in Firebringer, and DarknessDB based entirely on voting patterns and behavior.
Too bad I read the Wolframalpa earlier and miscalculated by 2 hours, should've checked more frequently.


Solar beam is confirmed for the next setup ^_^

Make one of the Magikarp evolve into a Gyrados and eat / kill a voter randomly before disappearing.

[BananaCucho]

I was waiting for today, because I wanted to be as careful as I can with my reads because one mistake can lead to a scum win.
Using WIFOM, I thought Fire was either a Citizen who wanted to be a meatshield, or he could be a scum. (pre-lynch)

If he was a scum, he might want to vote his partner to look towny before attempting to shift the vote onto someone else.
Basically, getting the scum to lynch scum.

After the lynch, I was 100% confident in Firebringer, and DarknessDB based entirely on voting patterns and behavior.
Too bad I read the Wolframalpa earlier and miscalculated by 2 hours, should've checked more frequently.



Make one of the Magikarp evolve into a Gyrados and eat / kill a voter randomly before disappearing.

Yes of course

[RLVG]

So, for MVP, I'd like to nominate Crypt.

A good dominant town leader.

[Stealthbomber16]

Day 4 was the highlight of the whole game.

Just reading it made me laugh.

[RLVG]

Day 4 was the highlight of the whole game.

Just reading it made me laugh.

Day Start :
July 1st, 2015, 12:01 AM

Day End :
July 1st, 2015, 12:07 AM



Fastest day in story?!

[Stealthbomber16]

Day Start :
July 1st, 2015, 12:01 AM

Day End :
July 1st, 2015, 12:07 AM



Fastest day in story?!

I think that it is the fastest ever day in any S-FM. Anyone disagree?

[Firebringer]

lol I had a few minutes then I had to go. I was prepared hoping someone would jump on us to lynch Super. Saw that Super went to Steatlh and was like "HELL YEAH GG"

I was so shocked I got away with that Bulbasaur claim for as long as I did.

[BananaCucho]

lol I had a few minutes then I had to go. I was prepared hoping someone would jump on us to lynch Super. Saw that Super went to Steatlh and was like "HELL YEAH GG"

I was so shocked I got away with that Bulbasaur claim for as long as I did.
Honestly when Fire claimed Bulbasaur I facepalmed and said GG in my head. I was so mad.

But he pulled it off O.o deserves MVP in my book

[Slaol]

What was up with the Shiny?

[BananaCucho]

What was up with the Shiny?

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shiny_Pok%C3%A9mon

[SuperJack]

FireBringer

[Slaol]

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shiny_Pok%C3%A9mon

like did it do anyhting?

[BananaCucho]

like did it do anyhting?
Nope it was just for fun. I randomed 1 player to be a shiny and it fell on Bruno

[Slaol]

This game actually looked really good. I wish it had been on my radar before signups

[DarknessB]

I really enjoyed this game -- it was a good introduction to FM for me and definitely encourages me to play more.

In particular, I was very surprise that Bulbasaur (whom we but assumed was Psyduck given the lack of counterclaim for most of the game) didn't counterclaim Fire yesterday. We figured Psyduck because Psyduck didn't say much during the game and it would have made sense for Fire's fake role claim to be countered. Likewise, we figured we were in deep trouble once SparkNuts was lynched because of Fire's fake role claim -- i.e. the real Bulbasaur was somewhere and could easily discredit Fire and then we were absolutely toast (a captured Magikarp wasn't going to get the rest of the Town lynched alone). If Fire got roleblocked the night after SparkNuts died, the game was effectively over with a Town steamroll, especially with Cryptonic promising to investigate me.

The other key point in the game was earlier when Fire hammered SparkNuts -- that was a HUGE gambit by Fire and I was shocked he switched his vote (expressing as much to him during night chat). I figured we could have held that vote off, but given the length of the day to go, I understand why he went with that approach.

Results matter of course and because the crazy gambit succeeded, I vote Fire for MVP. If his plan backfired, I would nominate him for LVP. :p

I also appreciated Banana's use of copypasta in the day / night updates and good narratives overall. It was a very fun setup to play (both in terms of balance and theme) and I'm looking forward to the next Pokemon game.

[RLVG]

In particular, I was very surprise that Bulbasaur (whom Fire and I assumed was Psyduck given the lack of counterclaim for most of the game) didn't counterclaim Fire yesterday. We figured we were in deep trouble once SparkNuts was lynched because of Fire's fake role claim -- i.e. the real Bulbasaur was somewhere and could easily discredit Fire and then we were absolutely toast.

I'd get the both of you if the day didn't end super quick, and I mean like, 6min lol.

If you saw what was on my mind, you'd see the gambit.

[Firebringer]

What have we learned here folks?

Never trust the Sheriff Jailor.

THE TRUE MVP!

[DarknessB]

Yeah, I was watching very carefully once the day began. As soon as Super pivoted over to Stealth, my eyes lit up and it was a game of fastest fingers to type the vote command. Otherwise, it was going to be an uphill fight with the real Bulbasaur you trying to convince everyone Fire was scum.


I'd get the both of you if the day didn't end super quick, and I mean like, 6min lol.

If you saw what was on my mind, you'd see the gambit.

[Firebringer]

That would make me suspect number 1 lol.

Favorite quote from me.

[RLVG]

What have we learned here folks?

Don't fucking vote in LYLO until everyone has talked.

[DarknessB]

This explains why you tend to get lynched on Day 2 of SC2Mafia games, right? The SC2Mafia players have caught up to the Sheriff Jailor act. :)


What have we learned here folks?

Never trust the Sheriff Jailor.

THE TRUE MVP!

[RLVG]

DarknessB, here's a pointer for you :

You were too quoteish on Firebringer.
It started to look rather odd by time.

The panic was real. 8) It got more and more obvious.

[Firebringer]

Since I won this, does that guarantee I will be featured in the sequel?

At least as Charmeleon?

[DarknessB]

LOL, feedback is always appreciated -- first game is always tough, especially when your alignment changes midway and ally #1 casts the hammer vote on ally #2. :p


DarknessB, here's a pointer for you :

You were too quoteish on Firebringer.
It started to look rather odd by time.

The panic was real. 8) It got more and more obvious.

[BananaCucho]

Since I won this, does that guarantee I will be featured in the sequel?

At least as Charmeleon?
I can't guarantee you that role lol

[Firebringer]

I can't guarantee you that role lol

Guarantee it is in the setup for the sequel!!

Charmander has grown up. He is done with the little leagues :P

[BananaCucho]

Guarantee it is in the setup for the sequel!!

Charmander has grown up. He is done with the little leagues :P
Yeah theme is Charmeleon vs Team Rocket

[Stealthbomber16]

"Okay, I want everyone to know how disappointed I am in Charmander. He ruined a perfectly fine forest."

[BananaCucho]

"Okay, I want everyone to know how disappointed I am in Charmander. He ruined a perfectly fine forest."
I also struck psyduck with lightning in an edit lol

[DarknessB]

LOL, too bad you can't rep on FM posts -- gotta love the copypasta.


"Okay, I want everyone to know how disappointed I am in Charmander. He ruined a perfectly fine forest."

[MattZed]

Firebringer MVP.

I agree with RLVG that voting AT ALL in a 3v2 before you've determined scum is just a bad idea. It was a little odd just how long RLVG didn't counter-claim, (probably too long) which is why SuperJack was so quick to assume that Charmander didn't attack on purpose. (which makes no sense in 3v2, lol) He should have realized that Firebringer was lying and suspicion'd him for lying about roleblocking this late in the game.

[Stealthbomber16]

We now know that.

SuperJack LVP:p

[Orpz]

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