"Day VI: 7th Heaven" Discussion Thread

[Raiden]

Day VI: 7th Heaven

Players revealed so far:
Rita = monster = Vigilante
Katherine = TheJackofSpades = Cult Leader
Mya = Goonswarm = Sephiroth
Noelle = Elixir = Ghost
Ted = Ambient = Citizen

Midgar Population:
Alec
Ashlyn
Edna
Evan
George
Jaret
Lois
Lukas
Marc
Mya
Noelle
Omar
Peter
Ted
Yren



Roles:
Rufus (Consigliere)
Sephiroth (One Winged Angel)
Yuffie (Ninja)
Hidden Benign Neutral
Aeris (Doctor)
Journalist
Barrier Materia Trader (Armorsmith)
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

Possible hidden roles:
Mafia: Consigliere, Consort, Disguiser, Mystify Materia Trader (Drug Dealer), Enforcer, Framer, Grave Robber, Janitor, Gunner (Mafioso).
Benign Neutral: Amnesiac, Executioner, Ghost, Jester, Student, Survivor, Witch.
Town: Bodyguard, Exit Materia Trader (Bus Driver), Coroner, Detective, Doctor, Escort, Jailor, Journalist, Investigator, Lookout, Cetra Ancient (Mason), Cop (Sheriff), Veteran, Vigilante.

All of the Hidden Mafia (Red) has been accounted for.
All of the Hidden Mafia (Orange) has been accounted for.
1 Hidden Benign Neutral has been accounted for.
2 Hidden Town Power Role has been accounted for.
There has been 1 role cleaned. Therefore, there will be 1 more role in the roles list than there are players.

Some of the roles above may or may not have unique RP names. You will eventually discover them while playing.

Graveyard:
Arthur (Cloud (Amnesiac)): pierced through the chest by a thin blade and subsequently impaled on a metal pole. [Night I]
Tracy (? ? ?): ? ? ? [Night I]
Lionel (Scarlet (Gunner (Mafioso))): thrown off the roof of a tall building by the angered crowd. [Day II]
Erika (Jenova-injected Investigator): impaled near Cloud's corpse. [Night II]
Riley (Citizen): thrown into a Mako Reactor engine. [Night II]
Lucinda (Tseng (Disguiser)): struck by day lightning, called by the use of a Thunder materia. [Day III]
Katherine (Prof. Hojo (Cult Leader)): shot in the head right outside of his now destroyed lab. [Night III]
Barry (Jenova-injected behemoth... i mean Citizen): blown up in the huge explosion that destroyed Hojo's laboratory while trying to protect his master. [Night III]
Herman (Cop (Sheriff)): vaporized by the Mako Beam. [Night III]
Fiona (Citizen): impaled on a cross-shaped metal pole. [Night III]
Isaac (Citizen): died of an heart attack at the local hospital [Modkilled]. [Night III]
Warren (Citizen): beaten to death by the angered crowd. [Day IV]
Carson (Elena (Consort)): shot in the back of the head by a vigilante. [Day IV]
Glen (Rude (Mystify Materia Trader (Drug Dealer))): shot in the head after a gunfight against Vincent Valentine. [Night IV]
Rita (Vincent Valentine (Vigilante)): crushed beneath the plate above Sector 7. [Night IV]
Deirdre (Heidegger (Jenova-injected Janitor)): did not survive the cleansing of Jenova cells in his body. [Night IV]
Janice (President Shinra (Godfather)): executed by a shady individual who called himself "The Jailor". [Night V]
Shawna (Reno (Framer)): executed by a shady individual who called himself "The Jailor". [Night V]
Wendy (Tifa (Escort)): poisoned to death by Rufus Shinra's pet. [Night V]
Connie (Cetra Ancient (Mason): killed while in mission to Midgar. [Night V]
Michael (Citizen): died in the hospital of the same illness that caused Isaac's heart attack [modkilled]. [Night V]



Day 6 will end October 31st 2011 @9 p.m. CEST (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=31+October+2011%2C+21+pm+CEST). It will require 10 votes to deadlynch.

[Illidan]

Turks chat open for the dead!

[Katherine]

Jaret, y u so bad at healing?

[Rita]

shawna's last will fucking epic
GG incoming in a few hours I feel
sucks being the ghost

[Katherine]

@Yayap:
I hope you now realize the error in fucking with me. I am so good that I can out the reds, and defeat your mafia before theirs without even knowing your identities AFTER I am dead. Also, just because someone vests the night you attack them, doesn't mean they are cult leader, but it does mean they are intelligent.

[Glen]

@Yayap:
I hope you now realize the error in fucking with me. I am so good that I can out the reds, and defeat your mafia before theirs without even knowing your identities AFTER I am dead. Also, just because someone vests the night you attack them, doesn't mean they are cult leader, but it does mean they are intelligent.


Why are you mad? It's just a forum game.

[Katherine]

Who says I'm mad?

[Herman]

The tone of the first line gives that impression on the first read through.

Also... Shawna was Yayap not George. Rofl. Rofl. Rofl.

[Deirdre]

WHY MUST WE BE SO UNLUCKY!? IT IS AS IF THE GODS THEMSELVES WILLED US ALL TO DIE!! T.T

[Deirdre]

RIP Ashlyn, your services to Shinra (and, though you may not have known it, to Hojo ;D) will never be forgotten... 'tis a sad day.

[Lionel]

I have a question about Noelle the Ghost. My assumption was that her target (the one who killed her) was decided... well, obviously after she died - so I'm assuming it's not a pre-arranged thing like an Executioner.

In the very likely event that Noelle survives until the end, does she succeed? She doesn't have a killer and it doesn't say anything about that in the role card.

I think it's hilarious if she fails because of that; I was even attributing some of her rudeness and aggressiveness to the fact that she wanted to be targeted by the Mafia.

[Katherine]

Elixir will lose this game. He played too passively after I flipped the chess board.

[Lucinda]

For the record glen, I did try to survive. I had thought that was my best chances, as I didn't know what else I could claim. If I had tried to claim that the escort was lying, I would have gotten lynched cuz he got masoned, not that I knew that. Armorsmith was claimed, vigil can day shoot me, I had no evidence of being a jailor, claiming a neutral probably wasn't gonna allow me to live.

Also, why the hell is yuffie/grave robber able to steal jailor? That is kinda OP......


I have left a gift for all dead people in orange mafia chat.

And here is my "Gift" from mafia chat:


Hello guys, as you may have figured I'm the ascendedone. For those of you in dead chat, this is my storyline objective.

Storyline Objective: Successfully disguise as a power role and survive for 3 or more days afterwards

[Wendy]

sup haters

i send a few of you down here i hope you wont be giving me a hard time

[Katherine]

I nominate Zack for being the whiniest scum ever at the end of a game.

[Wendy]

lul

im sad i died

If false the cocksucker chose to help yayap after the whole fiasco i'd shoot myself in the head.

can we see jail chats?

thank you

[Glen]

Since SK has black materia doesn't he kill jailor AND the person he wants to kill? I will rofl if he kills Yuffie.

Edit: Alright, my bad Lucinda

[Wendy]

why do you think he has black materia? why is everyone saying that?
i blocked him again, he didnt kill
derp moar

[Barry]

the one thing I'm confused about is how did shawna know lionel was red mafia? Was that really just a gambit? If it was well played, one of the better moments of such a boring and lopsided victory for the town.

[Wendy]

the one thing I'm confused about is how did shawna know lionel was red mafia? Was that really just a gambit? If it was well played, one of the better moments of such a boring and lopsided victory for the town.


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[Glen]

why do you think he has black materia? why is everyone saying that?
i blocked him again, he didnt kill
derp moar


Connie was sent to recruit Mya but he died, resulting in Mya's 4th kill i believe.

[Wendy]

why do you believe he was sent on Mya? Connie was sent on Ashlyn like i recommended yesterday i believe.
Connie didnt leave a LW and Alec isnt there yet to confirm
I dont think he made 4 kills and I believe there would be an announcement about it if he did

[Katherine]

Why would mismasoning count towards the Black Materia? Doesn't make any sense.

[Lucinda]

Why would mismasoning count towards the Black Materia? Doesn't make any sense.


Well, why not? SK isn't a strong killer regardless of the bonuses he gets in this forum mafia. He gets 6 kills every 5 turns, only two of them have any immunity piercings etc. And he does kill them, why wouldn't he take their souls while hes at it?

[Katherine]

He's actually incredibly strong in these settings. Almost OP, even.

[Arthur]

While the GG is coming I'd like to say this: All non-town (except for Peter) absolutely failed this game.

Nearly. Every. Single. Thing. The. Scum. Did. Helped. Town. Because. Hurting. Other. Scum. Is. Obviously. Smart. Hurr. Durr.

[Katherine]

I had my reasons but I won't waste my time explaining myself again.

[Lucinda]

He's actually incredibly strong in these settings. Almost OP, even.


Not really, arsonist and spree killer were twice as good as these sk settings as spree killer can kill multiple people at night, and should at least get one a night (Last spree killer failed so hard compared to what he should have realistictly done), and arsonist could either kill once a day piercing healing and night time vests, or kill them off in batches piercing healing and night time vests, finally being roleblocked doesn't stop you from detonating, nor is it even an indicator of whether or not your evil. 6 kills over 5 nights is hardly "OP" not even close really.

[Deirdre]

Mya is unwise... she could just use supernova and the whole town would be bored to death... Live and learn...

[Katherine]

He's actually incredibly strong in these settings. Almost OP, even.


Not really, arsonist and spree killer were twice as good as these sk settings as spree killer can kill multiple people at night, and should at least get one a night (Last spree killer failed so hard compared to what he should have realistictly done), and arsonist could either kill once a day piercing healing and night time vests, or kill them off in batches piercing healing and night time vests, finally being roleblocked doesn't stop you from detonating, nor is it even an indicator of whether or not your evil. 6 kills over 5 nights is hardly "OP" not even close really.

The only weakness the SK in this game had was being roleblocked. Being uncultable, unkillable, undetectable with the ability to pierce any form of protection twice every 5 nights?

I mean yeah, the arsonist from FMIV was better, but that's because the FM IV Arsonist was op as fucking balls, and the FMV one was only slightly less so due to the fact that they were not immune to death at night.
And the spree killer has MAJOR drawbacks so you can't even argue on that front.

So saying the SK in this game is borderline op is still correct, because the only thing you're comparing it to is something that IS Op.

[Wendy]

I wonder what would happen if cult didnt get wiped out... sk would still go undiscovered and probably charge his doublekill....and kill shawna with it.
OH THE SURPRISE.

[Wendy]

Welcome to Hell Zack. As a little reminder, this is the second time i die by your hand.

[Lucinda]

The only weakness the SK in this game had was being roleblocked. Being uncultable, unkillable, undetectable with the ability to pierce any form of protection twice every 5 nights?

I mean yeah, the arsonist from FMIV was better, but that's because the FM IV Arsonist was op as fucking balls, and the FMV one was only slightly less so due to the fact that they were not immune to death at night.
And the spree killer has MAJOR drawbacks so you can't even argue on that front.

So saying the SK in this game is borderline op is still correct, because the only thing you're comparing it to is something that IS Op.


I did not mean to compare to forum mafia 4, only forum mafia 5. Regardless, killing neutrals should be a bit stronger in forum mafia to stand a good chance against larger enemy groups. I do not see the slight advantages the killing neutrals had in forum mafia 5 to be OP. The chance spree killer would get a good spree is pretty small in forum mafia, but I believe the mere chance of getting multiple kills brings the spree killer up to the level he needs to be in forum mafia.

[Katherine]

Um dude, the thing that made the Arsonist most OP in FM4 was the fact that they could burn during the day. The arsonist in FM5 had the same ability.

[Lionel]

Enough of this talk, let's focus on the real issue here.



I like trains.

This man has a good taste, he would have made a good Shinra employee.

[Lucinda]

Um dude, the thing that made the Arsonist most OP in FM4 was the fact that they could burn during the day. The arsonist in FM5 had the same ability.


True, but he also could not die at night, there was no way to prevent him from detonating. Unless a jailor could kill it, I don't remember. Were there jailors in forum mafia 4? At least in forum mafia 5, a vigil could day shoot him before he detonated if his auto vest got destroyed.

[Herman]

The arsonist might be denied the burn if a mayor or someone quickly hammered them while they were trying to defend. Only likely late in the game when the mayor can hammer very quickly.

In any case, I don't think day burn is that overpowered as long as the neutral killer can't be culted. A powerful neutral killer in the cult is bad news for the game. I mean if the arsonist lives 5 rounds and has somehow doused people who are still alive they deserve to get some kills. Being able to stop all that kpn with a lynch does add a lot of tension to the game of course.

[Lucinda]

The arsonist might be denied the burn if a mayor or someone quickly hammered them while they were trying to defend. Only likely late in the game when the mayor can hammer very quickly.


Not really, it would be fairly easy to burn as soon as the vote reachs a certain count. I suppose it is techically possible, but I just don't see it as that likely. A vigil shot would be sudden and unpredictable.

[Shawna]

the one thing I'm confused about is how did shawna know lionel was red mafia? Was that really just a gambit? If it was well played, one of the better moments of such a boring and lopsided victory for the town.


My second last will explained how I found Lionel. He slipped something only both mafia knew, I was surprised no one else pointed it out.

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[Deirdre]

Um dude, the thing that made the Arsonist most OP in FM4 was the fact that they could burn during the day. The arsonist in FM5 had the same ability.


True, but he also could not die at night, there was no way to prevent him from detonating. Unless a jailor could kill it, I don't remember. Were there jailors in forum mafia 4? At least in forum mafia 5, a vigil could day shoot him before he detonated if his auto vest got destroyed.


I was the jailor in FM V, and I assure you that I never would have the skill to find and execute the arsonist before he burned (nor would I even be given the opportunity since lynching is pretty much a guarantee in good towns).

[Lionel]

Holy craaappppp Shawna I feel like an idiot, how did I let a scum tell like that slip through?

Oh well valuable experience, my first time as Mafia and my first FM on this site amongst observant players :)

[Wendy]

To give myself some credit, I noticed it, but I couldnt come out with it because i knew if yayap was evil he was gonna shoot/cult me.
It also wasnt a complete scumtell for he simply didnt exclude every possibility, i read it over and over. Yes it was peculiar but only if you knew what exactly happened to the kill (only me and mafia knew that)

[Lionel]

Looking back, I was alluding to the fact that the Turks were the one with the confirmed Consort.

[Katherine]

Looking back, I was alluding to the fact that the Turks were the one with the confirmed Consort.

That's how I interpreted it, honestly IMO it seems more like luck that you were correct but who knows.

[Lionel]

Looking back, I was alluding to the fact that the Turks were the one with the confirmed Consort.

That's how I interpreted it, honestly IMO it seems more like luck that you were correct but who knows.


Well Consort wasn't a hidden role, it was revealed from the start.

I suppose I was quick to suggest that it was much more likely to have an Escort rather than another Consort, but honestly I think I wrote much scummier tells than this ^^ I don't see anything wrong with suggesting the remote possibility that Riley might have claimed being blocked to avoid looking like a member of the Orange Mafia.

[Barry]

Looking back, I was alluding to the fact that the Turks were the one with the confirmed Consort.

That's how I interpreted it, honestly IMO it seems more like luck that you were correct but who knows.


same here, it was kind of suspicous but not slam dunk lionel is mafia suspcious when I first looked at it.

[Barry]

Though I didn't notice it as much because by the time I read the thread Shawna had allready accused Lionel of being mafia.

[Arthur]

-Dead Lynch Ted

C'mon guys. We need to find out his role/COM name.

[Shawna]

Lynch Ted

[Barry]

-vote ted

[Lionel]

-vote Ted

[Riley]

-vote Ted

[Janice]

Ted is ash, he is a citizen

-Dead Lynch Alec

[Janice]

Also, HOORAY! I DON'T EVEN CARE THAT ASHLYN DIED, I COMPLETED MY SECONDARY OBJECTIVE AFTER DEATH HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

Best Player: Probably George
Worst Player: Katherine. She not only destroyed her own team with that last will but every single team but town.

[Janice]

unvote Alec
-vote Ted

[Lucinda]

-ted

[Lionel]

My vote for MVC would have to be Tracy.

There's a Most Valuable Corpse award, right?

[Barry]

I'll give mvp to shawna for sucessfully faking sheriff for as long as she did.

how does george deserve it? All he did was pointlessly lie and confuse the town

honestly the game was too easy to have a real town be mvp.

[Glen]

I think shawna or peter deserves MVP.

-vote Ted

[Erika]

I'm not sure how MVP can go to anyone other than Wendy. She pretty much won town the game.

[Wendy]

I'm not sure how MVP can go to anyone other than Wendy. She pretty much won town the game.

<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

Althouth Shawna is the town MVP, killed more scum than any town... ok ill stop gloating.

Peter deserves a cocksucker award for leading me on for 2 days. I'll personally draw it for him. If you let me

I'll think of more awards, but dont hate on Jack seriously, he put a lot of thinking in what he did and revealing red team wasn't against his condition. Plus not culting me is super cute and noble because if i got culted and died my rage would be limitless.

[Janice]

I'm not sure how MVP can go to anyone other than Wendy. She pretty much won town the game.

<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

Althouth Shawna is the town MVP, killed more scum than any town... ok ill stop gloating.

Peter deserves a cocksucker award for leading me on for 2 days. I'll personally draw it for him. If you let me

I'll think of more awards, but dont hate on Jack seriously, he put a lot of thinking in what he did and revealing red team wasn't against his condition. Plus not culting me is super cute and noble because if i got culted and died my rage would be limitless.


Yes it was, half the town suspected Dierdre was on my team, and his death note pretty much confirmed that.

Also, I would have lol'd if you got culted and died

[Wendy]

-vote Noelle.
Poor noelle:(

[Janice]

-vote Noelle.
Poor noelle:(


noelle is already revealed.

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[Wendy]

Yeah deathfire, you aren't super cute and noble.... Old news are old.

[Wendy]

I know he is. Still poor Noelle, at least let him get deadlynched twice:(

[Janice]

Yeah deathfire, you aren't super cute and noble.... Old news are old.


I find it funny that you think you are XD

super cute yes.

Noble...........

wait....when did I say I was????? now im confused

[Katherine]

I'm not sure how MVP can go to anyone other than Wendy. She pretty much won town the game.

<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

Althouth Shawna is the town MVP, killed more scum than any town... ok ill stop gloating.

Peter deserves a cocksucker award for leading me on for 2 days. I'll personally draw it for him. If you let me

I'll think of more awards, but dont hate on Jack seriously, he put a lot of thinking in what he did and revealing red team wasn't against his condition. Plus not culting me is super cute and noble because if i got culted and died my rage would be limitless.


Yes it was, half the town suspected Dierdre was on my team, and his death note pretty much confirmed that.

Also, I would have lol'd if you got culted and died

I've explained this countless times. Had Deirdre died to cult suicide instead, you would have absolutely nothing to complain about. I would have created so many targets for the town that the last cult member would mean nothing to anyone.

[Illidan]

Ted's role is: Citizen!

[b]His COM identity is: Ambient!



Also red chat is now open.

Epilogue coming soon, hopefully tomorrow.

[Katherine]

Ah... those delicious tears.

[Arthur]

Trolololololololololol I did not expect everyone to Vote Ted like that. I was just trolling. ;D

[Janice]

Trolololololololololol I did not expect everyone to Vote Ted like that. I was just trolling. ;D


everything else is known this game is pretty much over

[Ashlyn]

Hey, first time around it wasn't my decision to kill you Philie. This time it was, but consider it a kill out of respect. If only you didn't block Sephiroth from his black-materia charge kill, scum might still have a chance.


Your reasoning for outing the red mafia fails Jack, it is a taboo and cheap thing to do as cult leader. You knew you'd be hated for doing that, so don't weasel your way out with explanations why it was all "part of the plan". Cult does not need to out and lynch mafia to win, your course of action was a mistake. If you apologize and admit your plan was a fail plan and now you know better then I will forgive you, because I am a forgiving person.

To people who say I was whining, or I am a sore loser: Its convinient to paint a person with a humiliating title, its harder to look into the deeper meaning of his words. To clarify: I am not angry about losing, I am angry at Jack for his asshole and fail tactic. It wasn't entirely against his win condition, but it was pretty much against all common sense. No sane cult leader would do that, wait not even an insane cult leader would do that (example: Plato), only Jack seemed to think it was a good idea.

And for the record: Red mafia never failed to kill this game, and every kill was a townie. So at least one scum faction did not fail, despite the cult leader's outing.

[Katherine]

I do not need to apologize to you Zack, in fact, your constant attempts to slander me because I made it impossible for you to win makes me believe that I am more deserving of an apology than you are. So you can stuff it, bro.

You did nothing but lash out at everything you could possibly perceive as being a hindrance to you winning this game, from my last will, to peter's supposed secondary objective, to SK not being immune to RB. This is no one's fault but your own. You are welcome to ask anyone, and they will tell you how poorly your mafia played on the whole.

And please, do not insult me by trying to claim that my words are a simple smokescreen to hide that fact that I was hellbent on being hated or something, I make decisions based on the fact that multiple decisions and outcomes happen to match up into a likable scenario. The fact of the matter is, your fate was sealed the moment I culted Deirdre, it was only a matter of 'when'. I do not play with kid gloves, if you want to be angry at someone, be angry at the catalyst of the whole situation(Yayap).

[Janice]

I do not need to apologize to you Zack, in fact, your constant attempts to slander me because I made it impossible for you to win makes me believe that I am more deserving of an apology than you are. So you can stuff it, bro.


Just no, you ruined the game for your own team because you thought "chance" would have been better. If anything you should apologize to Deirdre, who played much better than you did. He did everything he should have, he completely copied everything from shinra chat and he never gave a single hint that he was culted until you gave him away. I respect him and how he played. Not you, and you certainly don't deserve an apology.



You did nothing but lash out at everything you could possibly perceive as being a hindrance to you winning this game, from my last will, to peter's supposed secondary objective, to SK not being immune to RB. This is no one's fault but your own.


In his defense, your last will was you just crying and ruining the game for others when you already lost. and SK really should be immune to roleblocking. Everything, is what he did, and I'm not holding him against anything, he survived the longest out of any scum except Sephiroth.



You are welcome to ask anyone, and they will tell you how poorly your mafia played on the whole.

ummm, now I don't get this. Aside from Sephiroth (and ghost, but he really does not count) we were the longest surviving scum team. We successfully killed a townie every single night we were alive, with only one of them being a citizen. And two of our four members successfully completed our secondary objectives. I'd say we played pretty well.



And please, do not insult me by trying to claim that my words are a simple smokescreen to hide that fact that I was hellbent on being hated or something, I make decisions based on the fact that multiple decisions and outcomes happen to match up into a likable scenario. The fact of the matter is, your fate was sealed the moment I culted Deirdre, it was only a matter of 'when'. I do not play with kid gloves, if you want to be angry at someone, be angry at the catalyst of the whole situation(Yayap).


The fuck did Yayap do this game? Got Lionel killed? He pretty much did nothing after that. Yayap played terribly this game

[Ashlyn]

Since when is a mafia's fate sealed once the cult leader cults a member? Maybe when you are the cult leader yes, cus you will out them and act as a town sheriff. We all know how that turned out for you. First scum faction to lose the game, bravo.

I know Deathfire and Ganondorf pretty much confirmed they were scum and on a team day 1, I know Lionel was super obvious. We were all pretty fresh to the being mafia scene, but look at that - we did the best out of all the scum this game anyway.

And what Deathfire said about your last will is jackpot baby, you spited the red mafia to take them down with you. Lets say you pretending to be supersmart sheriff at day was ok, that last will was certainly not. Had you not left that last will outing us we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

That last will = you being an asshole. So yeah, you do have to apologize.

[Katherine]

The town left you for last because of how little a threat you posed, and how obvious you were. Do you not realize their highest priority was spending the days after my death finding the other scum?



Just no, you ruined the game for your own team because you thought "chance" would have been better. If anything you should apologize to Deirdre, who played much better than you did. He did everything he should have, he completely copied everything from shinra chat and he never gave a single hint that he was culted until you gave him away. I respect him and how he played. Not you, and you certainly don't deserve an apology.
I will be happy to offer my team an apology for my failing them. But I don't see them asking one of me.

[Janice]

The town left you for last because of how little a threat you posed, and how obvious you were. Do you not realize their highest priority was spending the days after my death finding the other scum?


How does that change how well we played? We left the SK alive for strategy reasons. We could have just killed him or outed him during day. We didn't. The fact that we were "lower priority" was part of the plan.

[Ashlyn]

Just read that orange mafia actually intended to kill the cult leader night 3. Interesting choice of foolishness, and Yayap was on that team, wtf? Yet another proof that a pro townie doesn't always perform well as a scum.

Also I just read that your last will was intended to give town a free win if a scum kills you at night, even if it'd be Sephiroth randomly. Proof of you being an asshole.

And now you're just bashing us because we bashed you, when you are all-deserving of a bash. Just stop talking Jack, you ruined this game for more than just a few players, and it was intended.

[Janice]

Just read that orange mafia actually intended to kill the cult leader night 3. Interesting choice of foolishness, and Yayap was on that team, wtf? Yet another proof that a pro townie doesn't always perform well as a scum.

Also I just read that your last will was intended to give town a free win if a scum kills you at night, even if it'd be Sephiroth randomly. Proof of you being an asshole.

And now you're just bashing us because we bashed you, when you are all-deserving of a bash. Just stop talking Jack, you ruined this game for more than just a few players, and it was intended.


Zack I fear you may be falling into witch rant mode. You aren't still mad at me for that are you?

[Katherine]

You are wrong, I knew full well that I would be attacked by the oranges again. This had nothing to do with random last will outing.

[Wendy]

ladies don't fight.
one could ask himself: why does this katherine the cult leader know so much of us? maybe there is a spy. Let's play carefully and look like we don't pose a threat. Let's reduce town to a safer number and deal with it later. Or maybe get the spy lynched at day?
what yayap did wasn't logical and not very thought-through... he could consider how much it has a potential to imbalance town, observe more, bid his time, just like you should have. He knew red was compromised, he thought his team was, too, ironically so only 2 recruitments had been done at the time and it was impossible...
a chain reaction of careless play and bad planning. What jack did is a defense mechanism and a warning for future mafia to play better.
when i played as cult leader, at some point red mafia planned to block and kill me because they knew what was up. I was going to out them and deservingly so. They knew better not to, in the end. Neither of mafias realized it this time.
TL;DR yes it kinda looks bad but it isnt solely Jacks fault but a collective scum failure. a lesson to learn

[Barry]

less QQ more pew pew

[Deirdre]

So.... I can't wait to see who gets the "worst faction" award :P The town played iffy at best, the Shinra played iffy but was destroyed by my master (and the Turks who killed Katherine and lynched Lionel), the Turks killed the Shinra (indirectly) and the cult, the ghost didn't do crap, the amnesiac died N1, and Sephiroth actually played a decent game. In other words, MYA FOR MVP!

[Arthur]

I got the worst faction. I lost first... :'(

[Deirdre]

I got the worst faction. I lost first... :'(


No, you are the best faction because you did the least wrong... Arthur for LUP (least un-valuable player)!

[Arthur]

I will accept the LUP. Thank you. Now I would like to honor all the little people who I had to crush in order to receive this award. I rock! 8)

[Glen]

I will accept the LUP. Thank you. Now I would like to honor all the little people who I had to crush in order to receive this award. I rock! 8)


yes, yes u do Cloud. btw if u were still alive which role would u pick? im just curious.

[Lionel]

I will accept the LUP. Thank you. Now I would like to honor all the little people who I had to crush in order to receive this award. I rock! 8)


yes, yes u do Cloud. btw if u were still alive which role would u pick? im just curious.


He'd pick mine, duh.

I single-handedly proved the amazingness of the Gunner role.

[Arthur]

I would have to choose a town role like last time. The scum this game just failed for the most part. It was very obvious. Even without my vantage point. If I survived this long I prolly would have chosen escort. It gives the town more of the power it needs.

[Arthur]

LOL I just realized that if I remembered that I was an escort then I would surely lose because Wendy died this last night. On second thought I would choose vigilante because I like guns. :D

[Deirdre]

LOL I just realized that if I remembered that I was an escort then I would surely lose because Wendy died this last night. On second thought I would choose vigilante because I like guns. :D


Choose citizen..... because power roles are too mainstream. Everyone knows that the best amnesiacs only remember citizens and other amnesiacs!

[Arthur]

I would have to change my avatar to a hipster if I did that lol.

[Ashlyn]

So you punished the oranges by outing the reds in order to cause a town win and teach them a lesson? I don't see anywhere on night 3 cult chat that you said you are expecting to die, but whatever, i'l not keep arguing.

Still, by not saying you were attacked in the first place you could have pretended to be godfather to the oranges. I fail to see why you told town of the attack, I can't imagine you expected doctor to heal you? Its not like the armorsmith gets a report on when you use your vest, he doesn't, so you really should have kept quiet.

The bottomline is: It looked like you were outing the reds just to take us down with you.

And regardless, getting back at the turks by also screwing Shinra and Sephiroth over is still bad play in my eyes. See, we guessed you were cult leader and we intended to keep you alive while the town was strong, we knew how to deal with the cult - so why punish us too? You could have just written a last will directed at the oranges, teaching them of their mistake and still giving us a chance. Without the cult, the town could claim without fear so just the CL's death at the hand of a mafia is already a shift in the balance of power, your last will along with that completely crushed all hope for the scum.

Also, had we killed Edna instead of Riley on night 2 the Consort wouldn't vigi-shot and Wendy would keep getting blocked. That was just hanging in my mind...

[Rita]

I AM THE GODFATHER

[Lionel]

On second thought I would choose vigilante because I like guns. :D


I was a GUNNER. Get it right dude, you know Cloud would have joined Shinra xD

[Deirdre]

I find it ironic that Cloud died N1 by Sephiroth's blade, yet Aeris continues to live...

[Lionel]

Aeris' secondary objective: -suicide

[Arthur]

Then I would come down and watch it happen. Making me even sadder...

[Katherine]

The bottomline is: It looked like you were outing the reds just to take us down with you.

I honestly don't care what it looked like to you.


And regardless, getting back at the turks by also screwing Shinra and Sephiroth over is still bad play in my eyes. See, we guessed you were cult leader and we intended to keep you alive while the town was strong, we knew how to deal with the cult - so why punish us too? You could have just written a last will directed at the oranges, teaching them of their mistake and still giving us a chance. Without the cult, the town could claim without fear so just the CL's death at the hand of a mafia is already a shift in the balance of power, your last will along with that completely crushed all hope for the scum.

Again, I don't care what you think at this point. What I did worked in all regards, aside from one, and that is the fact that Deirdre did not suicide. And seriously, you were actively talking about screwing me in your night chat. I have no means of knowing whether or not you are changing actions or death notes in PMs to the hosts, or if you've changed your strategies again after Deirdre is gone and cannot update the night chat thread. And yes, I'm aware it did, that was kind of the point.

[Connie]

hi guys

i'm dead

[Deirdre]

Welcome remaining forum members! Please feel free to chip in on our lovely conversation about how stupid the assorted scum was ;D

[Barry]

yup honestly cult really shouldn't have outed the mafia when we had a red mafia on our team. Orange shouldn't have killed cult leader, but the mafia was just really unlucky in the end. Shawna was suprisingly smart but that was it.

[Wendy]

Surprisingly? It's yayap, why is anyone still surprised?:/

[Barry]

yayap is overated

[Janice]

Surprisingly? It's yayap, why is anyone still surprised?:/


yayap's idea about shooting himself wasn't smart at all....like seriously. It was okay in concept, but it totally backfired. His team only got one successful kill If I recall correctly

[Glen]

Surprisingly? It's yayap, why is anyone still surprised?:/


yayap's idea about shooting himself wasn't smart at all....like seriously. It was okay in concept, but it totally backfired. His team only got one successful kill If I recall correctly

And that kill brought all scums down. :'(

[Illidan]

We're probably gonna be a bit late with the epilogue, I think it will be up either in a few hours or very soon tomorrow.

In the meantime I've opened all the remaining chats and added everyone to the dead chat, so you have something to read :)

[Ted]

Ted's role is: Citizen!

[b]His COM identity is: Ambient!



Also red chat is now open.

Epilogue coming soon, hopefully tomorrow.


Hai you guys.

I loved the dead Lynch. I thought it was pretty evident who/what I was. Especially considering I said it.

<3 Janice Got you

[Ashlyn]

And yes, I'm aware it did, that was kind of the point.


And my point is you don't deserve to get scum roles, apparently if anybody makes you lose you must make them lose in return if its within your power - and it doesn't matter who else you're screwing over in order to get your revenge. The trait of an asshole. Case closed.

[Janice]

And yes, I'm aware it did, that was kind of the point.


And my point is you don't deserve to get scum roles, apparently if anybody makes you lose you must make them lose in return if its within your power - and it doesn't matter who else you're screwing over in order to get your revenge. The trait of an asshole. Case closed.


/agree, thats the attitude of a loser pub not a skilled veteran who wants to see how the game plays out

[Ashlyn]

Jack's personality role is the Ghost. Mine is the Witch.

Hey this is a fun idea... I'l make a thread.

[Erika]

When are signups for FM 6/8 going up?

[Janice]

6 and DR said not until he transitions the forums.

[Lois]

I'm posting in dead chat, but I'm still alive.

Creepy stuff :o

[Katherine]

And yes, I'm aware it did, that was kind of the point.


And my point is you don't deserve to get scum roles, apparently if anybody makes you lose you must make them lose in return if its within your power - and it doesn't matter who else you're screwing over in order to get your revenge. The trait of an asshole. Case closed.

Well thankfully you have no say on the matter. I tried a different approach this game, it failed. Does this polarize your view on me as a whole? If it does, you are someone whose "respect/admiration/acknowledgment/etc" I will not miss. I was equally as disregarded in FM1 for my tactical failures as the original mason, and the next game I took a different approach and am now regarded as one of the "best" scum players to participate in FM.

Just because I save others time by surrendering when I know I cannot win does not mean I have a defeatist's attitude, as you claimed that I have in PM.

[Lukas]

I am alive, but dead.

Muhahah!

Cit, jaczac

Lame.

cit, X3

[Janice]

How about we just give Jack and Zack both the "Whiny B***H awards.

[Katherine]

How about we just give Jack and Zack both the "Whiny B***H awards.

I invite you to point out one instance of whining. You will not find one.

[Lionel]

Considering that all players are now in this dead chat, I'm surprised there isn't more activity. Thoughts on the game newcomers? Any surprises in the final revelations? :)

Ted, I could be your kids' mother - I have blonde hair and I'm sexy, though I apparently have a fondness for wearing a false moustache and blacking up my skin and calling myself Lionel. Scarlet > Stella

[Janice]

your last will in both FMV and FMVII, you whining and arguing with Zack.

also, Jack and Zack, and jaczac. This is funny.

Newcomers:

Lunavium-You didn't get to play much, and you're scrambling on day 2 was good but could have been performed better.

Ambient-He played reasonably well and was good at deductions, but he was almost spoonfed every answer because of town's luck this game, and he didn't read what some people said at all. Can't really judge his play.

[Wendy]

Yeah all the newbies were great:D
Lunavium didnt know much meta, i guess thats why he died to yayap.
Poor Dust and Lix also:(

[Ashlyn]

My views never get polarized. The moment you show a diffrent side of yourself i'l forgive you, my somewhat naive nature. I still think what you did was wrong, as in - morally wrong to do in a game of mafia, as much morals as scum can have that is... I could never do that, the guilt would eat me. How do you sleep at night? But i'l forget eventually, and then i'l forgive sort of, or just won't care anymore.

I do not whine, Deathfire... People choose to see things in the most convinient way for them, but it is not the truth.

[Ted]

Ambient-He played reasonably well and was good at deductions, but he was almost spoonfed every answer because of town's luck this game, and he didn't read what some people said at all. Can't really judge his play.


My problem was I was too eager to respond. I would misread posts slightly, making myself look foolish at times.

[Lionel]

Lunavium didnt know much meta, i guess thats why he died to yayap.



Yes you're all a very different crowd to what I'm used to, different minds 'n all, gonna have to adapt my play in future :)

[Noelle]

Fuck my unending life.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/Whitetree/ghostwill5.jpg

[Lucinda]

I think it's time to get rid of these accounts.

[Janice]

poor Elixir, you just can't get a break with Forum Mafia unless you're the host XD

[Ashlyn]

Elixir, who is your avatar and where is it from?

[Lionel]

I'd link you to the wiki but dunno if links are yet allowed :P

It's Noelle from the game Valkyria Chronicles - one of the only reasons to own a PS3

[Janice]

I'd link you to the wiki but dunno if links are yet allowed :P

It's Noelle from the game Valkyria Chronicles - one of the only reasons to own a PS3


Ummm...
Sonic Generations
Oblivion (Better Version)
Eternal Sonata (Better Version)
White Knight Chronicles 1+2
Final Fantasy 13 (Better Version)
Final Fantasy Versus 13 (When it comes out)
Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction, A Crack in Time, All 4 One
Disgaea 3
Disgaea 4
etc.

[Deirdre]

I still miss Jimmy T.T I wouldn't mind letting this account go though...

I'm laughing so hard at the signup thread and FAQ for FM VII: this didn't exactly meet all of your expectations...

[Noelle]

Elixir, who is your avatar and where is it from?



I'd link you to the wiki but dunno if links are yet allowed :P

It's Noelle from the game Valkyria Chronicles - one of the only reasons to own a PS3


Noel (pronounced Noelle) Willoch from Valkyria Chronicles 2.

It's the PSP one ^_^.

But I disagree with you, Ps3s are amazing

INFAMOUS O_O.

[Lucinda]

INFAMOUS O_O.


1 and 2. Damn awesome games. Perhaps there will be a third adding to the reasons..... Not many games stop at 2.

[Jaret]

Jesus - the bitching and whining in this thread.

Let it go.

GG guys.

[Deathfire123]

OHHEY YOU CAN POST IN HERE WITH YOUR COM ACCOUNTS NOW

[Ambient]

Zomg

[Muso]

Increwible.

[McJesus]

whatup?

[Deathfire123]

Other Newcomers:

Ash - He played well for what he was given. He lost because he was caught by a detective, not because he gave himself away to most people, but I knew he was scum, that's why I called him out Day 3. I also noticed that something was going on with Lois and Peter, and I figured one of them was scum as well. But since I was scum, I wasn't going to directly call out Glen so i made it cryptic.

-Pedobear - Worst player to play Forum Mafia.

Still don't know who the two others were

[McJesus]

IF DR has left the site then what is the deal with the next forum mafia anyways? Are we going to wait indefinetly for him or will it get handed to someone else? I would like to see him host it but I need my forum mafia man, I don't want to wait so long for it.

[Ganondorf]

Ah, it is good to have gotten rid of that cursed FM account....

[SimpleFigment]

GG gents.

When will the next one start so i know when to start looking? This was fun.

[FalseTruth]

You're welcome. Also, I'm trying to fix some permissions for "The Battlefield" atm. If anything goes horribly wrong please pm me.

[Severn]

GG everyone.

-Herman

[Dust]

Goon, I shall find you next FM. I want to make your death memorable. Preferably n1. ;D

[Deathfire123]

Goon, I shall find you next FM. I want to make your death memorable. Preferably n1. ;D


what about Miles?

[Dust]

I'm gonna get MileS too. I'm just gonna get Goon first. Then I get MileS after he thinks he's cleared with the town and about to win.

[Ambient]

I hope the next FM isn't too far away :(

[Deathfire123]

I hope the next FM isn't too far away :(


gonna be a while yet, not till rev gets back