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Raiden
October 27th, 2011, 12:19 PM
Forum Mafia VII - Day V (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsEIvVemH6g#ws)

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After all the emotionality of the day had shaken off, Midgar turned back to a safer place, if only for a few moments. Hojo was dead, and a good part of Shinra and the Turks was too. Optimism could be smelled in the air, which strangely enough looked more transparent as well. The evil hands holding the city were losing their grip, one finger after the other.

Yet again, a fierce fight was going to take place in the slums of Sector 7. Yet again, two old friends were going to face each other in a battle that would not have ended without the death of at least one of the two.

First mysterious individual: “You? What are you doing here?”
Second mysterious individual: ”Come on, now... don’t tell me you are surprised.
First mysterious individual: ”Yeah, nothing can be hidden from the eye of the Turks, am I right? Ha ha”
Second mysterious individual: ”I am no more one of your kind. I have long since forsaken my past.”
First mysterious individual: ”I guess. Do you still wish to stop us?”
Second mysterious individual: ”You know I have no choice.”

The first man took off the hood, revealing his bald head. There was no mistake, it was Rude, the Turk who was disguising as Glen.

Rude: ”Let us fight then, VV!”

The other man, since there was no reason to hide anymore, untied his red mantle and revealed himself as well. He was Vincent Valentine, formerly a member of the Turks, now a vigilante patrolling the streets of Midgar to cleanse it from the scum, disguising as Rita during the day.

Vincent: ”To the death.”

Along with these words they both drew out their guns, unleashing a lethal swarm of bullets. As they were both agile and skilled gunfighters, they suffered no damage from the first barrage. They took cover behind trashcans and inside abandoned houses, firing at each other for about an hour... no one seemed to gain any advantage, until Vincent finally managed to hit Rude’s right hand, causing him to drop his gun. The Turk ignored the pain and tried to reach for his weapon, but Vincent had already closed the gap between them, and was now pointing his Death Penalty at his opponent.

Rude: ”Alright... I know when it’s time to admit defeat. I have just a question for you, VV.”
Vincent: ”What is it?”
Rude: ”Why are you doing this? You owe nothing to Midgar or its citizen, and they owe nothing to you.”
Vincent: ”True. However, I hate Shinra, Hojo, and you all for what you have done to me. You must know that.”
Rude: ”But... things have changed now. We want the best for this city, too! You will always be welcome among the ranks of the T--”
Vincent: ”Silence. I don't care what you are doing, so much as the idiotic way that you are doing it. You MUST be stopped.”

Even before the end of this sentence, Rude had a bullet hole through his forehead. His life was no more.

Vincent walked away, without a smile nor a tear. He was one step closer to his goal. What he did not know, however, is that President Shinra was watching the fight all along from his advantage position at the Headquarters. He had long since decided to take extreme measures against the rebels, even at the cost of his precious city.

President Shinra: ”Do it.”

As he issued the order, the huge metal plate above Sector 7 began to fall, crushing everything beneath it. All of the people who lived there would not see the dawn of a new day, including Vincent.

After the destruction of Sector 7, a message from the Shinra was broadcasted through all TV channels and radio frequencies:

Sephiroth and the Turks, and to any cult member that may still be alive. We must band together, Sephiroth, you more than any of us know that killing the town is essential right now. And the perfect targets for your kills tonight should be Omar, and Wendy. They will only continue to ruin our plans, and even though we may have our differences, we definitely know that we cannot win if we do not neutralize the town first. If you decide to kill one of the mafia members, you are essentially sealing your own doom. Please, for all that is good in the world, you must help destroy the evils of the town and let purity reign Midgar

President Shinra: ”That should teach them rebels not to mess with Shinra... am I right, Heidegger? ...Heidegger? Bah, stupid fat ass, he’s probably in the kitchen emptying the fridge again. Ha Ha Ha!”

Sadly for him, Heidegger was nowhere near the Headquarters. A group of surviving Cetra ambushed him right after last day ended, for they could sense the remnants of Jenova inside his body. They brought him to the Forgotten City of the Ancients, and bathed him into the holy waters to banish Jenova forever from the Planet. Alas, it was too late, for the alien cells corrupted his body far too much for it to be healed without consequences. His soul returned to the Lifestream, where he could have peace at last.



Midgar Population:
Alec
Ashlyn
Connie
Edna
Evan
George
Janice
Jaret
Lois
Lukas
Marc
Michael
Mya
Noelle
Omar
Peter
Shawna
Ted
Wendy
Yren



Roles:
President Shinra (Godfather)
Rufus (Consigliere)
Reno (Framer)
Sephiroth (One Winged Angel)
Yuffie (Ninja)
Hidden Benign Neutral
Aeris (Doctor)
Journalist
Barrier Materia Trader (Armorsmith)
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Cetra Ancient (Mason)
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

Possible hidden roles:
Mafia: Consigliere, Consort, Disguiser, Mystify Materia Trader (Drug Dealer), Enforcer, Framer, Grave Robber, Janitor, Gunner (Mafioso).
Benign Neutral: Amnesiac, Executioner, Ghost, Jester, Student, Survivor, Witch.
Town: Bodyguard, Exit Materia Trader (Bus Driver), Coroner, Detective, Doctor, Escort, Jailor, Journalist, Investigator, Lookout, Cetra Ancient (Mason), Cop (Sheriff), Veteran, Vigilante.

All of the Hidden Mafia (Red) has been accounted for.
All of the Hidden Mafia (Orange) has been accounted for.
1 Hidden Benign Neutral has been accounted for.
1 Hidden Town Power Role has been accounted for.
There has been 1 role cleaned. Therefore, there will be 1 more role in the roles list than there are players.

Some of the roles above may or may not have unique RP names. You will eventually discover them while playing.

Graveyard:
Arthur (Cloud (Amnesiac)): pierced through the chest by a thin blade and subsequently impaled on a metal pole. [Night I]
Tracy (? ? ?): ? ? ? [Night I]
Lionel (Scarlet (Gunner (Mafioso))): thrown off the roof of a tall building by the angered crowd. [Day II]
Erika (Jenova-injected Investigator): impaled near Cloud's corpse. [Night II]
Riley (Citizen): thrown into a Mako Reactor engine. [Night II]
Lucinda (Tseng (Disguiser)): struck by day lightning, called by the use of a Thunder materia. [Day III]
Katherine (Prof. Hojo (Cult Leader)): shot in the head right outside of his now destroyed lab. [Night III]
Barry (Jenova-injected behemoth... i mean Citizen): blown up in the huge explosion that destroyed Hojo's laboratory while trying to protect his master. [Night III]
Herman (Cop (Sheriff)): vaporized by the Mako Beam. [Night III]
Fiona (Citizen): impaled on a cross-shaped metal pole. [Night III]
Isaac (Citizen): died of an heart attack at the local hospital [Modkilled]. [Night III]
Warren (Citizen): beaten to death by the angered crowd. [Day IV]
Carson (Elena (Consort)): shot in the back of the head by a vigilante. [Day IV]
Glen (Rude (Mystify Materia Trader (Drug Dealer))): shot in the head after a gunfight against Vincent Valentine. [Night IV]
Rita (Vincent Valentine (Vigilante)): crushed beneath the plate above Sector 7. [Night IV]
Deirdre (Heidegger (Jenova-injected Janitor)): did not survive the cleansing of Jenova cells in his body. [Night IV]



Rita's Last Will:
Shooting Glen.

Glen's Last Will:
Glen did not leave a last will. Giggity.

Deirdre's Last Will:
To any of you who actually believed that I was the doctor, I must thank you. For the entirety of this game, I've been called scum with very little reason on countless occasions. I still await post analysis from Alec and company from day 3, and I still await reasons from Wendy for why I have to be the janitor. Sure, I am the janitor and all, but you guys couldn't possibly know that, and you have demonstrated very little reason to even think that. Seeing as there is no coroner, I will leak you Tracy's last will...

Trust me, I'm a doctor.

Well, I don't know who would leave a will like that, but I think you can tell what Tracy was (or, what he was claiming to be). Now, for something a little more relevant. Now, I am quite obviously the most unlucky player in the game (Night 1, my Shinra teammate is discovered; Night 2, my former cult teammate is killed, Night 3, my OTHER new cult member AND my leader is killed; Day 3-4, my Godfather and myself are found out), and I can't help but blame the Turks. They need to die without a doubt. Here's a little tidbit of information you might find interesting.... on Night 1, Erika didn't investigate me: she investigated Connie and got an Aeris/Sephiroth result. Seeing that Tracy was the doctor, I would have to say that Connie is Sephiroth. Over my years, I have earned my revenge on multiple occasions, such as against vornskr in FM III. Don't deny me today, kill the person that killed our investigator, and then kill the Turk scum that wish to align with her. I really think that the town will have won this game based on luck (and certainly not on skill), but I will not allow Sephiroth or the Turks to win after the brutal deaths of my comrades. This is Ganondorf, signing off. I will see you guys in the lifestream where you can all reflect on how stupid you all are.... I'm so freakin' happy to be dead.



Day 5 will end October 29th 2011 @9 p.m. CEST (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=29+October+2011%2C+21+pm+CEST) or when a player is lynched. It will require 11 votes to lynch.

George
October 27th, 2011, 12:25 PM
Obviously I can't play anymore. I had some personal problems come up and I'll be way less active I might come back once a day to submit my action, but that's about it.

I'm the Jailor. I jailed Riley, Michael, Ted, and last night Ashlyn. I can only assume that the SK might of attacked her maybe?

That was the plan anyway, but I can't read RP.

I'm sorry for lying yesterday, but I really wanted to get rid of him and now we have a much easier way of finding the SK. Whoever visited Ashlyn if someone checked her like I tried to tell them to if not then it's one of the citizen claims.

Town probably won this so don't fuck up and let me down while I'm gone!

-Sincerely,

Claw the Wonder Boy.

Omar
October 27th, 2011, 12:25 PM
Ohhai nice to meet you.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 12:28 PM
ashlyn must have been the sepyroth

wow

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 12:28 PM
i will roleclaim now.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 12:30 PM
after yesterday's fiasco, i say we should clearly analyse everyone to make doubly sure who Sephiroth is

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 12:30 PM
maybe its you janice? would you like to claim sepyroth?

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 12:31 PM
nope not sephiroth, my personal guess is either Jaret or Connie.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 12:32 PM
I wrote this in advance and just adjusted it now to account for night kills.

the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog AND REVEALS HIS ROLE!

It has come to this out of necessity. I must roleclaim for you to make the best possible choice today. You may be surprised at my recommendation and my role.

Or more likely,
"Peter is not a troll? WAT"

I am the
Coroner!

Surprised? I'll explain.

NIGHT ACTIONS:

Night 1: I was welcomed into a jail. The poster only used white text and was obviously Michael. I was frank with him and told him I was coroner. I invented a code with extra spaces so he could confirm to me that he was in fact the jailor who jailed me. I told him he could jail me again in case there was no clean for any particular reason.

Night 2: I check Tracy. Tracy was Yuffie. Her last will read:

"I get the best role in the game and u kill me. i would help town if i live............"
Not sure why Diedre lied about the last will if his death ensures his loss. I can assure you he is lying.

Tracy's N1 target was Janice. I'll get more into that later...

Night 3: I was jailed by Michael again, but I welcomed it again because I had the opportunity to tell him that Tracy was Yuffie. He told me that George had jailed him, so there were two jailors. This is how I knew George was town.

Night 4(last night): I check the consort. Her last targets were Michael, Barry, Wendy (right before she died).



This will answer a few questions for you:

Why do I support George?
-I thought he had jailed someone and realized that Warren was really the SK. I also had Warren as an SK suspect, so I listened to George even though he was lying about his role. Remember I specifically told George not to reveal? I said that because I thought he would reveal as jailor. For clarification, George is not the investigator, he is the jailor. I still want him to explain to us why he thought Warren was a good lynch.

Why troll?
-Because I wanted to survive. This information is invaluable and I suspected that the janitor would continue cleaning people.

Why wait to reveal?
-Why reveal so early when there are so many other scum targets, and no one really accusing you of anything?

Then why did you just reveal?
-To get you guys to listen to me. We need to find the sk and kill him before this town gets out of hand, but I see a better option than simply lynching him. I will explain more later.



Let's have a look at our role list shall we?

THERE ARE 10 ROLES HERE AND ONLY 9 ON ROLES LIST:
Armorsmith-Omar(Confirmed)
Doctor-(Confirmed)
Journalist-(Confirmed)
Coroner-Me(Confirmed)
Jailor-Michael(Confirmed)
Jailor-George(Confirmed)
Escort-Wendy(Confirmed)
Lookout-Edna(half-confirmed?)*
Sheriff-Shawna(half-confirmed?)*
Detective-Lois(Confirmed--found Drug Dealer)

*REGARDLESS OF WHO ANYONE ELSE IS, ONE OF THESE CLAIMS IS LYING*

GF-Janice(Confirmed by CL)
Consig-Ashlyn(Confirmed by CL)

Framer-???

Now... What is the best course of action? Well, we know either Shawna or Edna is lying. I have reason to believe Shawna is the liar here. It was not very hard to guess that Lionel was scum from Day 1 and half of Day 2 chats. He made a educated guess, and was cleared(when he shouldn't have been).

I think Shawna is the Orange Framer!



Best Course of Action:
This may surprise you, but I want to push for a NO LYNCH. We have 2 capable jailors and that is double the chance of finding the SK. SK is our first and foremost priority and we should want that we have the most chances to get him. If we don't kill and SK, we may just simply kill a scum. Either way, its still faster that a lynch which can be manipulated by scum.

Now the SK hunt begins. There was no SK kill last night, so I suspect he was either jailed or blocked. I will let Wendy, George, or Michael elaborate on this.

tl;dr: No lynch=Two jailors killing scum=double the chance of finding the SK. I recommend we DO NOT lynch today.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 12:32 PM
I claim sephiroth

Tremble before me

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 12:36 PM
nope not sephiroth, my personal guess is either Jaret or Connie.


Reason for Jaret: He constantly says he's clean and was cleaned by several people (Cop, and others) when that is all a lie, and he actually had a gambit used on him. I think he saw through that and just claimed cit to get the target off his back.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 12:37 PM
also, Edna is on my sephiroth suspicion list as well

Ashlyn
October 27th, 2011, 12:38 PM
Interesting claim Peter, are you sticking with that story?

Edna
October 27th, 2011, 12:39 PM
Wait, Peter... What you just said? Tracy was... Yuffie? Did you just told us that she is... dead?

Curse you, Shinra bastards! I will never forgive you for killing my precious friend! I know what we have to do now.

We lynch Janice today. She is definetely not town, she can be Shinra President or maybe even Sephiroth. We need to lynch her today, since we don't know yet who is Sephiroth.

Omar
October 27th, 2011, 12:40 PM
I don't understand why you'd put Edna on that list. Edna the lookout would have had to have some insane luck to have guessed EXACTLY who I visited each night to confirm that i was the armorsmith. I mean, I didn't -have- to visit who I visited. I don't trust Shawna in the least bit, by the way.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 12:40 PM
Shawna is not the Sheriff.

With that being said Lionel is probably bad news. I won't go into details.

I'm ok with lynching Lionel.

-vote Lionel.

George, can you elaborate on this please? This is a day 2 post by you and it honestly made me believe you knew something others didnt.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 12:41 PM
Wait, Peter... What you just said? Tracy was... Yuffie? Did you just told us that she is... dead?

Curse you, Shinra bastards! I will never forgive you for killing my precious friend! I know what we have to do now.

We lynch Janice today. She is definetely not town, she can be Shinra President or maybe even Sephiroth. We need to lynch her today, since we don't know yet who is Sephiroth.

Did you even read what I wrote? THERE ARE TWO JAILORS. DO NOT LYNCH ANYONE SO WE CAN KILL TWICE.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 12:42 PM
I don't understand why you'd put Edna on that list. Edna the lookout would have had to have some insane luck to have guessed EXACTLY who I visited each night to confirm that i was the armorsmith. I mean, I didn't -have- to visit who I visited. I don't trust Shawna in the least bit, by the way.


You said who you visited every night before she claimed

Edna
October 27th, 2011, 12:43 PM
Anyway, amazing job, Alec, you have just killed a member of Mafia. But why did you risked your life for visiting Deidre? We did'n even had an idead that she was culted.

I want also to place some flowers at Rita's grave... wait his name was actually Vincent, was it? He did exactly what I told him to do - to shoot Glen. May sour soul rest in peace. we will finish this job.

Edna
October 27th, 2011, 12:45 PM
Oh yeah, another thing. Sephiroth DID not made a kill this night. Care to tell why?

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 12:47 PM
Oh yeah, another thing. Sephiroth DID not made a kill this night. Care to tell why?


Seph is someone who was jailed, seph attacked someone who was jailed, seph attacked someone who was healed, seph attacked someone who was armored.

Omar
October 27th, 2011, 12:48 PM
I don't understand why you'd put Edna on that list. Edna the lookout would have had to have some insane luck to have guessed EXACTLY who I visited each night to confirm that i was the armorsmith. I mean, I didn't -have- to visit who I visited. I don't trust Shawna in the least bit, by the way.


You said who you visited every night before she claimed


Nope. She posted who I had visited before I had released that information. It was after she released it that I confirmed it.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 12:51 PM
I blocked Mya. I was aiming for sk suspect, this quote was the biggest tell i could find. i was town in-between Marc and Mya.


I find it strange that Sephiroth stated that everyone was to follow you and as it seems that is what is happening. Not that anything can be considered fact, but it is noteworthy.

I took it as an attempt to direct attention to the death note that clearly wasnt causing enough chaos. I am not sure however, if it's mya, this is a very small tell, Mya acted exceptionally pro-town all the time. I'd like to hear what the other jailor did last night and why 2 kills are missing.
Someone clearly attacked an immune role or chose not to kill. While me/michael/george imprisoned the right one.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 12:52 PM
I don't understand why you'd put Edna on that list. Edna the lookout would have had to have some insane luck to have guessed EXACTLY who I visited each night to confirm that i was the armorsmith. I mean, I didn't -have- to visit who I visited. I don't trust Shawna in the least bit, by the way.


You said who you visited every night before she claimed


Nope. She posted who I had visited before I had released that information. It was after she released it that I confirmed it.


she roleclaimed yesterday, you said who you visited the day before

Omar
October 27th, 2011, 12:54 PM
Not entirely Janice. I'd suggest you find that out for yourself. She also called out Carson, which if you really wanted to think about it could only mean that she would be on the red's team. She knew that I had vested Wendy, which I did not give away before the roleclaim. I'm not going to waste my time arguing :P

Ashlyn
October 27th, 2011, 12:56 PM
I'm the Coroner, you actually thought town didn't have one did you Peter?

Here is Tracy's real last will, and her role:

http://i44.tinypic.com/15eutza.jpg


Night 1: Went a stroll, no bodies to check.

Night 2: Checked Tracy.

Night 3: Checked Erika: Her target on night 1 was Deirdre.

Night 4: Jailed by "Mindy", whoever that is. I intended to check Katherine in order to make sure I know who the last cultist is, thats no longer necessary.


Notice how Peter is telling us to turn on Shawna? Its a nice fake, but there's another way you could know who the Consort blocked - and thats by being orange mafia yourself.

No lynch, 2 jailors, nice theory. Do we really have 2 jailors? Because seriously, I doubt that. This is a balanced setup with hidden roles, nothing is random, there are no 2 jailors. Your game is over Peter.

Another thing guys, I was attacked last night, but I was in jail so I was immune to it. Thanks Jailor, you saved me.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 12:57 PM
Not entirely Janice. I'd suggest you find that out for yourself. She also called out Carson, which if you really wanted to think about it could only mean that she would be on the red's team. She knew that I had vested Wendy, which I did not give away before the roleclaim. I'm not going to waste my time arguing :P


you basically said the day before "I AM VESTING WENDY!"

Edna
October 27th, 2011, 12:57 PM
There is something that is out of my mind now.

It's the Town power role list, among which there are 6 hidden roles.

So, here is what I found:

Aeris - ?
Journalist - ?
Barrier Materia Trader - Omar
Cetra Ancient - Alec
Hidden Town Power Role 1 - Lookout - me
Hidden Town Power Role 2 - Sheriff - Shawna
Hidden Town Power Role 3 - Jailor - Michael/George
Hidden Town Power Role 4 - Detective - Lois
Hidden Town Power Role 5 - Coroner - Peter
Hidden Town Power Role 6 - Escort - Wendy

The conclusion? There is only 1 Jailor, and George is lying again, or Michael is not jailor. Therefore, we need to LYNCH someone now.

I'm certain that George is not town.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 01:00 PM
also, shouldn't the mason who visited die since his target was mafia, and cult.

Edna
October 27th, 2011, 01:00 PM
And now Ashlyn tells us that she is Coroner and Peter is not. Shawna, can you check one of then next night? You have a vest, so nothing should happen to you.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 01:02 PM
lol Ashlyn is full of shit. I am the coroner and Michael the jailor had a name of Sabrina. Just because Rumpel generally makes those funny last wills, doesn't mean he did this time. It doesn't matter, both Claw and Michael can confirm that everything I said is true.

Ashlyn is consig, this only confirms it further.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 01:03 PM
Edna, I put my full trust in George. He IS town although the stupid prank Peter, ted and george played on us was completely unnecessary.
Want proof? Check day 4. They have been talking in code. ted can confirm whenever he comes by.

Shawna
October 27th, 2011, 01:03 PM
I was attacked last night. Used my vest. Also got an innocent result last night on Jaret.

I don't think there are 2 jailors.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 01:04 PM
I was attacked last night. Used my vest. Also got an innocent result last night on Jaret.

I don't think there are 2 jailors.


you cant detect sephy right?

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 01:04 PM
There is something that is out of my mind now.

It's the Town power role list, among which there are 6 hidden roles.

So, here is what I found:

Aeris - ?
Journalist - ?
Barrier Materia Trader - Omar
Cetra Ancient - Alec
Hidden Town Power Role 1 - Lookout - me
Hidden Town Power Role 2 - Sheriff - Shawna
Hidden Town Power Role 3 - Jailor - Michael/George
Hidden Town Power Role 4 - Detective - Lois
Hidden Town Power Role 5 - Coroner - Peter
Hidden Town Power Role 6 - Escort - Wendy

The conclusion? There is only 1 Jailor, and George is lying again, or Michael is not jailor. Therefore, we need to LYNCH someone now.

I'm certain that George is not town.

Shawna is not sheriff, remember? Y U NO READ?

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 01:06 PM
There is something that is out of my mind now.

It's the Town power role list, among which there are 6 hidden roles.

So, here is what I found:

Aeris - ?
Journalist - ?
Barrier Materia Trader - Omar
Cetra Ancient - Alec
Hidden Town Power Role 1 - Lookout - me
Hidden Town Power Role 2 - Sheriff - Shawna
Hidden Town Power Role 3 - Jailor - Michael/George
Hidden Town Power Role 4 - Detective - Lois
Hidden Town Power Role 5 - Coroner - Peter
Hidden Town Power Role 6 - Escort - Wendy

The conclusion? There is only 1 Jailor, and George is lying again, or Michael is not jailor. Therefore, we need to LYNCH someone now.

I'm certain that George is not town.

Shawna is not sheriff, remember? Y U NO READ?

Peter is not coroner, remember? Y U NO READ?

Shawna
October 27th, 2011, 01:06 PM
I can't detect SK, GF or neutrals.

My use is pretty limited now, I can only find Consig and Framer, and framed people.

Edna
October 27th, 2011, 01:07 PM
So you want to tell us that there are no coroners and two jailors?

See my list above, there are only 6 hidden town roles left. Someone is lying. Look again:

Hidden Town Power Role 1 - Lookout - Me
Hidden Town Power Role 2 - Sheriff - Shawna
Hidden Town Power Role 3 - Jailor - Michael/George?
Hidden Town Power Role 4 - Detective - Lois
Hidden Town Power Role 5 - Coroner - Peter/Ashlyn?
Hidden Town Power Role 6 - Escort - Wendy

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 01:08 PM
Yes, Edna. Someone is lying. You are correct. It is Shawna.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 01:09 PM
So you want to tell us that there are no coroners and two jailors?

See my list above, there are only 6 hidden town roles left. Someone is lying. Look again:

Hidden Town Power Role 1 - Lookout - Me
Hidden Town Power Role 2 - Sheriff - Shawna
Hidden Town Power Role 3 - Jailor - Michael/George?
Hidden Town Power Role 4 - Detective - Lois
Hidden Town Power Role 5 - Coroner - Peter/Ashlyn?
Hidden Town Power Role 6 - Escort - Wendy

Oh just wait, it gets better.

I am Detective

I followed Edna last night because I knew she was bullshitting about being Lookout.
Guess who she visited last night.

She visited Shawna.

Edna is probably Sephiroth.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 01:11 PM
So you want to tell us that there are no coroners and two jailors?

See my list above, there are only 6 hidden town roles left. Someone is lying. Look again:

Hidden Town Power Role 1 - Lookout - Me
Hidden Town Power Role 2 - Sheriff - Shawna
Hidden Town Power Role 3 - Jailor - Michael/George?
Hidden Town Power Role 4 - Detective - Lois
Hidden Town Power Role 5 - Coroner - Peter/Ashlyn?
Hidden Town Power Role 6 - Escort - Wendy

Oh just wait, it gets better.

I am Detective

I followed Edna last night because I knew she was bullshitting about being Lookout.
Guess who she visited last night.

She visited Shawna.

Edna is probably Sephiroth.

lol. no comment.

Edna
October 27th, 2011, 01:15 PM
Shut up, Janice, town already knows that I am Lookout. After town lynched Warren I immediately realised that Ashley is town, and I decided to watch over her. And Lois said that she is detective. We managet to find out that Glen is a Drug Dealer because of her.

I watched Ashley this night. No one paid a visit to Ashley. I confirmed from Raiden that jailor only shows up in reports when his target is lynched.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 01:16 PM
Shut up, Janice, town already knows that I am Lookout. After town lynched Warren I immediately realised that Ashley is town, and I decided to watch over her. And Lois said that she is detective. We managet to find out that Glen is a Drug Dealer because of her.

I watched Ashley this night. No one paid a visit to Ashley. I confirmed from Raiden that jailor only shows up in reports when his target is lynched.


How does town KNOW you're lookout? Lois accused Glen, and Ashlyn just said she was attacked. So, you can't be telling the truth.

Raiden
October 27th, 2011, 01:18 PM
I confirmed from Raiden that jailor only shows up in reports when his target is lynched.


I guess you meant to say "when his target is executed". Which is true.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 01:18 PM
-vote for no lynch

I suggest you all do the same. Good luck everyone. My purpose is served. If I die it will only implicate my enemies further. I don't see any way town can lose this game.

Edna
October 27th, 2011, 01:19 PM
Wait, now I'm not sure that Ashlyn is town. It's a choice between Peter and Ashlyn. I need to think logically now. I'll go to sleep soon, and after 10 more friutful hours of sleep I should come to the conclusion of current situation. Before I leave I'll put a vote against a certain non-town person.

-vote Janice

Noelle
October 27th, 2011, 01:19 PM
also, shouldn't the mason who visited die since his target was mafia, and cult.


Cult status prevails. Masons win.

Can't believe you guys convinced me George was legit

Also now stating I never believed Dierdres claim yesterday, I was hoping him claiming doctor would get him killed someway.

I can tell you he's flat out lying in his will also.

Yes. I'm now claiming doctor because this game is done. If the Jailor had someone claim doc to them in jail last night call them the fuck out and let's kill him because he's seph. I'm also claiming I wrote the journal article yesterday. I'm not your average citizen.

Detective/Lookout if you've seen me, back me up. Even if it results in my death, better me than the investigative roles this late into the game.

The journalist wasn't able to publish today...? They were blocked?

- hm just noticed this:



I'm the Coroner, you actually thought town didn't have one did you Peter?

Here is Tracy's real last will, and her role:

http://i44.tinypic.com/15eutza.jpg


Night 1: Went a stroll, no bodies to check.

Night 2: Checked Tracy.

Night 3: Checked Erika: Her target on night 1 was Deirdre.

Night 4: Jailed by "Mindy", whoever that is. I intended to check Katherine in order to make sure I know who the last cultist is, thats no longer necessary.


Notice how Peter is telling us to turn on Shawna? Its a nice fake, but there's another way you could know who the Consort blocked - and thats by being orange mafia yourself.

No lynch, 2 jailors, nice theory. Do we really have 2 jailors? Because seriously, I doubt that. This is a balanced setup with hidden roles, nothing is random, there are no 2 jailors. Your game is over Peter.

Another thing guys, I was attacked last night, but I was in jail so I was immune to it. Thanks Jailor, you saved me.


Bullshit 2 coroners





So you want to tell us that there are no coroners and two jailors?

See my list above, there are only 6 hidden town roles left. Someone is lying. Look again:

Hidden Town Power Role 1 - Lookout - Me
Hidden Town Power Role 2 - Sheriff - Shawna
Hidden Town Power Role 3 - Jailor - Michael/George?
Hidden Town Power Role 4 - Detective - Lois
Hidden Town Power Role 5 - Coroner - Peter/Ashlyn?
Hidden Town Power Role 6 - Escort - Wendy

Oh just wait, it gets better.

I am Detective

I followed Edna last night because I knew she was bullshitting about being Lookout.
Guess who she visited last night.

She visited Shawna.

Edna is probably Sephiroth.


Sephiroth can't be tracked. Do you not read rules?

-vote Janice


I'm sick of your scum shit

Edna
October 27th, 2011, 01:21 PM
Also, if Janice is GF, we need to lynch her anyway, so that Lois and I can detect the killing actions of last Shinra. We have Wendy, who keeps roleblocking, and Omar is still giving away vests.

Raiden
October 27th, 2011, 01:23 PM
Sephiroth can't be tracked. Do you not read rules?


Wrong. Sephiroth CAN be tracked.

Only President Shinra and Professor Hojo are untrackable.

Ashlyn
October 27th, 2011, 01:24 PM
Janice is a good lynch, but Peter is the last orange mafia - reduces KPN.

I believe he is the better lynch here, you can roleblock Janice to prevent her from making the kill herself.

Edna
October 27th, 2011, 01:25 PM
And sorry, Noelle, Sephiroth CAN be tracked. Did you writed his role card well? Both Detective and Lookout can detect him. I'll put my faith in Lois, since she have FAR better chances of detecting him than me. And we need to lynch Janice, the GF, so we can track the kills of Consigliere.

Noelle
October 27th, 2011, 01:25 PM
Wait, it was Hojo not seph that can't be tracked in the end.

My that was hasty.

Youre still not detective though.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 01:26 PM
Also, if Janice is GF, we need to lynch her anyway, so that Lois and I can detect the killing actions of last Shinra. We have Wendy, who keeps roleblocking, and Omar is still giving away vests.

OR WE COULD JAIL JANICE AND THE SK AND END THIS GAME FASTER?

Why don't you people understand that when there are two jailors, it is better NOT to lynch so that we can kill twice?

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 01:26 PM
also, shouldn't the mason who visited die since his target was mafia, and cult.


Cult status prevails. Masons win.

Can't believe you guys convinced me George was legit

Also now stating I never believed Dierdres claim yesterday, I was hoping him claiming doctor would get him killed someway.

I can tell you he's flat out lying in his will also.

Yes. I'm now claiming doctor because this game is done. If the Jailor had someone claim doc to them in jail last night call them the fuck out and let's kill him because he's seph. I'm also claiming I wrote the journal article yesterday. I'm not your average citizen.

Detective/Lookout if you've seen me, back me up. Even if it results in my death, better me than the investigative roles this late into the game.

The journalist wasn't able to publish today...? They were blocked?

- hm just noticed this:



I'm the Coroner, you actually thought town didn't have one did you Peter?

Here is Tracy's real last will, and her role:

http://i44.tinypic.com/15eutza.jpg


Night 1: Went a stroll, no bodies to check.

Night 2: Checked Tracy.

Night 3: Checked Erika: Her target on night 1 was Deirdre.

Night 4: Jailed by "Mindy", whoever that is. I intended to check Katherine in order to make sure I know who the last cultist is, thats no longer necessary.


Notice how Peter is telling us to turn on Shawna? Its a nice fake, but there's another way you could know who the Consort blocked - and thats by being orange mafia yourself.

No lynch, 2 jailors, nice theory. Do we really have 2 jailors? Because seriously, I doubt that. This is a balanced setup with hidden roles, nothing is random, there are no 2 jailors. Your game is over Peter.

Another thing guys, I was attacked last night, but I was in jail so I was immune to it. Thanks Jailor, you saved me.


Bullshit 2 coroners





So you want to tell us that there are no coroners and two jailors?

See my list above, there are only 6 hidden town roles left. Someone is lying. Look again:

Hidden Town Power Role 1 - Lookout - Me
Hidden Town Power Role 2 - Sheriff - Shawna
Hidden Town Power Role 3 - Jailor - Michael/George?
Hidden Town Power Role 4 - Detective - Lois
Hidden Town Power Role 5 - Coroner - Peter/Ashlyn?
Hidden Town Power Role 6 - Escort - Wendy

Oh just wait, it gets better.

I am Detective

I followed Edna last night because I knew she was bullshitting about being Lookout.
Guess who she visited last night.

She visited Shawna.

Edna is probably Sephiroth.


Sephiroth can't be tracked. Do you not read rules?

-vote Janice


I'm sick of your scum shit


look whos scum now liar. trying to implicate me with your lies.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 01:27 PM
Also, if Janice is GF, we need to lynch her anyway, so that Lois and I can detect the killing actions of last Shinra. We have Wendy, who keeps roleblocking, and Omar is still giving away vests.

OR WE COULD JAIL JANICE AND THE SK AND END THIS GAME FASTER?

Why don't you people understand that when there are two jailors, it is better NOT to lynch so that we can kill twice?


so you end up with a dead detective and a random person most likely town

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 01:30 PM
-vote Noelle

you accused me of not reading MY OWN role card, when you havent read it yourself

You're probably lying about the doctor claim too. Sephiroth.

Edna
October 27th, 2011, 01:31 PM
I have came to the conclusion that Mya may be Journalist. Note how no article was published today. And it's highly unlikely that Journalist came to interview Deidre, Evan, or Rita.

Noelle
October 27th, 2011, 01:31 PM
Yeah I got the 2 undetect classes wrong. Hojo<->Seph.

You're very quick to try to jump on anything you can to try to save yourself though. Isn't that interesting?

Lois is much more likely a detect than you.

Time to misdirect some more, go ahead.







Also, if Janice is GF, we need to lynch her anyway, so that Lois and I can detect the killing actions of last Shinra. We have Wendy, who keeps roleblocking, and Omar is still giving away vests.

OR WE COULD JAIL JANICE AND THE SK AND END THIS GAME FASTER?

Why don't you people understand that when there are two jailors, it is better NOT to lynch so that we can kill twice?


so you end up with a dead detective and a random person most likely town


2 jailors and a vig is about as likely as 2 detectives and a lookout.

Next to 0

Noelle
October 27th, 2011, 01:33 PM
-vote Noelle

you accused me of not reading MY OWN role card, when you havent read it yourself

You're probably lying about the doctor claim too. Sephiroth.


Lol. See?

LETS MISDIRECT QUICK.

Hahaha you're captain scum.

My vote remains unchanged.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 01:34 PM
Yeah I got the 2 undetect classes wrong. Hojo<->Seph.

You're very quick to try to jump on anything you can to try to save yourself though. Isn't that interesting?

Um, same could be said of you. You assumed I hadnt read my own role card and voted me faster than you can count with no evidence suggesting im evil.



Lois is much more likely a detect than you.

Time to misdirect some more, go ahead.

I'm not the one misdirecting, that's you my good friend








Also, if Janice is GF, we need to lynch her anyway, so that Lois and I can detect the killing actions of last Shinra. We have Wendy, who keeps roleblocking, and Omar is still giving away vests.

OR WE COULD JAIL JANICE AND THE SK AND END THIS GAME FASTER?

Why don't you people understand that when there are two jailors, it is better NOT to lynch so that we can kill twice?


so you end up with a dead detective and a random person most likely town


2 jailors and a vig is about as likely as 2 detectives and a lookout.

Next to 0


LOLNO! 3 killing roles vs. 3 detecting roles? Just lolno.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 01:34 PM
GUYS STOP THE SHITSTORM

Go the fuck back to day 4. READ!!! Peter was jailed. George was jailed. Ted was jailed.
We have 4 people who can vouch for each other!

DO YOU SEE A 4 MAN TEAM IN THIS SETUP? NOPE!!!

YES CLAW IS AN ASSHOLE BUT HE IS INNOCENT.

-VOTE NIGHT

ps: Mya is sk, thought you should know.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 01:35 PM
-vote Noelle

you accused me of not reading MY OWN role card, when you havent read it yourself

You're probably lying about the doctor claim too. Sephiroth.


Lol. See?

LETS MISDIRECT QUICK.

Hahaha you're captain scum.

My vote remains unchanged.


HAHA! I'm glad we think the same way for each other. Enjoy death, sephiroth

Edna
October 27th, 2011, 01:35 PM
If Mya is Sephiroth then why Shawna claims that she was attacked?

Alec
October 27th, 2011, 01:36 PM
I'll read through the earlier pages in a second here, i skimmed through page one and let me clear up a few things..

First of all *Does the mason dance* I killed deirdre, i killed deirdre! Take that partner who hasn't done anything all freaking game!

So on that note, Connie isn't sephiroth. For someone [deirdre] to claim everyone here is thinking illogically, he would be one, especially considering the fiasco Connie had with Wendy to force Wendy's roleclaim.

Secondly, Edna was visited by the masons, and no one died.

Third, Jaret is NOT citizen, but he was also visited and did not die.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 01:37 PM
If Mya is Sephiroth then why Shawna claims that she was attacked?


Because shawna is Yayap.

tihihi.

i called it day 4.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 01:37 PM
I have came to the conclusion that Mya may be Journalist. Note how no article was published today. And it's highly unlikely that Journalist came to interview Deidre, Evan, or Rita.


The fuck does Evan have to do with this?
Freudian slip?

Evan
October 27th, 2011, 01:39 PM
-vote night
Obv scum is obv.
Jaret=random benign neutral I think

Noelle
October 27th, 2011, 01:40 PM
-vote Noelle

you accused me of not reading MY OWN role card, when you havent read it yourself

You're probably lying about the doctor claim too. Sephiroth.


Lol. See?

LETS MISDIRECT QUICK.

Hahaha you're captain scum.

My vote remains unchanged.


HAHA! I'm glad we think the same way for each other. Enjoy death, sephiroth


Unlike you, death doesnt phase me at this stage of the game. I welcome the town to lynch me if it promises to kill you the next day. Town is so god damn far ahead it doesn't matter in the slightest. Seeing as the town wants to give power to the Jailor, I'll oblige.

-vote night

Edna
October 27th, 2011, 01:42 PM
It's late already. I'm gonna go to sleep. But before I do, I'm gonna show you my current thoughs on players:

Alec - Cetra Ancient
Ashlyn - Coroner
Connie - ?
Edna - Lookout
Evan - ?
George - Random Benigh Neutral
Herman - ?
Janice - President Shinra
Jaret - ?
Lois - Detective
Lukas - ?
Marc - ?
Michael - Jailor
Mya - Journlalist
Noelle - Doctor
Omar - Armorsmith
Peter - Consilgliere/Framer
Shawna - Sheriff
Ted - Citizen
Wendy - Escort
Yren - Citizen

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 01:42 PM
Thank you philie. You understand.


If Mya is Sephiroth then why Shawna claims that she was attacked?

Okay, I'll try to make it clear Edna, because you don't seem to understand.
Shawna is the Orange Framer!
Janice is the Red GF!

The role list is as follows:
Armorsmith-Omar(Confirmed)
Doctor-Noelle(Confirmed)
Journalist-(Confirmed)
Coroner-Me(Confirmed)
Jailor-Michael(Confirmed)
Jailor-George(Confirmed)
Escort-Wendy(Confirmed)
Lookout-Edna(Confirmed)
Detective-Lois(Confirmed--found Drug Dealer)

GF-Janice(Confirmed by CL)
Consig-Ashlyn(Confirmed by CL)
Framer-Shawna

Mya is the SK. I'm guessing Wendy the escort blocked him.

Everyone else is just a mason or a cit.

Vote for night because there are two jailors and we will be able to kill more people with two jailors.

Ashlyn
October 27th, 2011, 01:44 PM
We don't have 2 jailors, its impossible. No sane host would put 2 jailors in a setup, its simply overpowered beyond belief - especially when there's also a vigilante and escort around. Voting night is trusting the orange mafia's word, not exactly wise now is it?

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 01:46 PM
Edna, why do you think Mya is journalist? I will go whore with marc tonight, feel free to watch mya kill me. I am quite positive unless another jailor comes out saying he blocked marc and no journalist claims.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 01:46 PM
We don't have 2 jailors, its impossible. No sane host would put 2 jailors in a setup, its simply overpowered beyond belief - especially when there's also a vigilante and escort around. Voting night is trusting the orange mafia's word, not exactly wise now is it?

Denying the truth, are we? Ashlyn, you are the consig. Noelle is the doc, not Tracy. You have been proven scum by Noelle.

George
October 27th, 2011, 01:46 PM
Uh

I was never jailed.

Here's everything I did:

I jailed Riley Night 1

Riley claimed MrSmarter and Citizen. I say this because he's only a citizen and I'd rather have 1 less possible mason than a mafia/neutral roaming around in broad daylight.

I jailed Michael Night 2.

My plan was to use my diguiser/indentity codes I gave to Riley against him. I told him that I would say something about Toy Story and then insult the person my inmate told me was Mafia. As an otherwise useless citizen he would have to obey me and act as the false investigator. My code for Michael was going to be to have him say these things and call out Glen as Mafia through the code. Riley would then call Glen out as Mafia thinking I was Michael and the town would lynch Glen. I did this because I believed that Glen was anti-town. The trolling habits needed to end and since I was a relatively powerful role I decided to use pawns to do the dirty work for me. I didn't want to be the leader of the town.

On top of that Riley would be under some fire for getting the lynch wrong IF it was wrong. I could then see if Michael died. If Michael died then Riley is obviously trying to kill me and I could jail him and be like "Surprise bitch! I GOT YOU MOTHERFUCKER". If it turns out that Glen was good, Michael doesn't die, and Riley is clean then this will be for naught. I have to trust my instincts or else there's no reason to be playing this game. If you're reading this then I've severely miscalculated and am dead or perhaps you're reading this in the epilogue under the "Hitler Award" section for best failed plan ever. It will suck if Riley ends up being Cult Leader who recruits Michael thinking he's the Jailor. If that happens then boy am I fucked.

On the Shawna matter. I pretty much figured that Shawna got a read of some kind and I half way wanted to protect her by saying she's not sheriff, but in the back of my mind I thought "Hey maybe she is the Ninja and got the ability of the Janitor or something specific to the mafia". Either way I have a policy on questioning power roles and WIFOM'ing them to safety if possible.

I give my "Smart move" award to Riley for staying quiet about a jailor. I tempted him a few times and I was sure he was attacked, but he never claimed there was a Jailor and that made me trust me so much more. If he ends up being mafia then holy fuck is he smart since as of now before N2 starts I'm not planning on going through with my strategy because of how Pro-town he's been. EDIT: He had to open his damn mouth in his will =(

Michael claims that he is just a citizen. He's not scared of dying and is just messing around with me. I've swapped my plan around to fuck with him instead of Riley. It just forces me to stay alive longer which clearly I did not do if I'm dead now.

A lot of interesting things happened on Day 3. I tried to claim that I had a vest with no intention of outing the only Armorsmith. My intention was to then try and protect him by making the mafia think there was only one armorsmith and he got armor instead of me. An armorsmith is much stronger than a Jailor at this point since the town was lynching and my plan was taking longer and longer to setup.

As of now I just tried to layer the WIFOM on Omar even more. I know he's the Armorsmith, but I thought if I said "Oh I see what's going on Omar." That would make mafia think something was up. Who knows what will happen...

This is more of a journal of thoughts than a last will, but it's more fun this way. I was actually at some point going to claim coroner say that Tracy was the doctor and try to jail one of the power roles. The Jailor is more or less a doctor with private chat anyway. The problem with that is that I guess the stupid townspeople would claim to be coroner and reveal the information. I feel that if I played as a mafia again I would attempt this same vague strategy where I just claim random things to get power roles to reveal themselves...

Finding the Consig is nearly impossible. There could any number of different phrases used to list what the person was much like my disguiser code.

It's like that professor farnsworth meme. If the general population of this game is going to just follow the sheriff or any other role claim then I don't want to live on this planet anymore. I claimed Sheriff so I could point out the most retarded part of this game. I will be explaining why I did it and show that I lied and will probably be killed, but at this point I need to prove how easy it is to sway the vote one way or another just by faking a role claim so that people understand why the concept doesn't work.

I jailed Ted. I enjoyed the prospect that I wasn't the only person who messed up grammatical errors on accident. However I told him that I jailed him hoping a Vigilante wouldn't kill him and that I didn't think he was the Serial killer. This leads me to use Michael as bait for my project. Michael is Plato and trying to tell Plato to do anything is a stretch of the imaginiation so I had to hope he would follow through by saying his disguiser code. I'd then tell Ted that I would say what Michael would say and Ted would murder Michael. With that being said I'm not a super liked guy in town at the moment and as always I'm perfectly fine with that. If the Mafia want to think I'm neutral then go ahead. I'm more worried about the red mafia team killing me thinking I'm the Cult Leader since I wouldn't of been the godfather.

The reason I do the things I do is so that no one takes anything at face value. If you don't try to plant seeds in peoples heads about what's true or false then they know exactly what is true and exactly what is false. I hopefully made them question Shawna, I hopefully made them question Wendy for a bit, and I hopefully will make them question other claims in the future. I tell everyone to even question what I'm saying so they understand to not listen to me and to make their own decision up. I'd much rather someone take a look at the situation and assess it themselves rather than listen to someone for guideance. We obviously need information, but in order to keep that information coming we need to protect people. We probably don't have a lot of doctors so making citizens look like power roles and power roles look like neutrals then bad guys will hopefully keep them alive longer. I've decided to remove my information on roles because at the moment that's not helping anyone. My evidence was already linked to in chat so there's no reason to list that either. From now on in order to figure out who I am just look at the person who plays great Day 2 and twiddles his thumb Day 3...That'll be me.

Ted claimed he was a citizen and that he was Ambient. Like always I highly doubt anyone will not claim citizen to the Jailor. I've altered my plan a little and at the moment I've told him I'm Michael and that I will prove it tomorrow by saying something(Disguiser code) I've also told him that George is the student in hopes he'll change his mind about being a citizen and claim investigator. I imagine he would do this if he was looking for a student to help him as a serial killer. If he changes his mind by claiming investigator and we don't have a clear lynch target tomorrow I'll offer this information up. (I told him George was only interested in being a student for invest role)

I jailed Ashlyn last night. She claimed coroner.

I don't know who or what to believe anymore.

This is my last last will.

Sincerely,
George CocksuckinMotherfuckinCocksuckin Carlin

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 01:47 PM
We don't have 2 jailors, its impossible. No sane host would put 2 jailors in a setup, its simply overpowered beyond belief - especially when there's also a vigilante and escort around. Voting night is trusting the orange mafia's word, not exactly wise now is it?


GUYS STOP THE SHITSTORM

Go the fuck back to day 4. READ!!! Peter was jailed. George was jailed. Ted was jailed.
We have 4 people who can vouch for each other!

DO YOU SEE A 4 MAN TEAM IN THIS SETUP? NOPE!!!

YES CLAW IS AN ASSHOLE BUT HE IS INNOCENT.

-VOTE NIGHT

ps: Mya is sk, thought you should know.

George
October 27th, 2011, 01:48 PM
-vote night

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 01:54 PM
What George just said makes perfect sense, although I thought Michael claimed Jailor to George.

Remember, Michael jailed me N1 and N3. He was jailed N2. Read my roleclaim post. Everything fits and makes perfect sense.

Ashlyn
October 27th, 2011, 01:54 PM
As you wish, but i'm still saying we don't have 2 jailors...

-vote Night

Alec
October 27th, 2011, 01:57 PM
Not gonna vote night, need my man Ted to swoop by.

Oh and i chose deirdre because 1 i thought he was scum, and figured [Whie putting it in my last will] if i died to visiting him, at least we had a confirmation of it. Although Wendy convinced me to start looking for baddies, rather then try to find people to recruit, which by the way, went pretty shitty.

Also, I'm gonna wait for Ted to show up before i start voting night, it has worked for me thus far.

Hey Ambient, it's Weltall [SimpleFigment] what's up nukka? Guess we make an ok team.

Ashlyn
October 27th, 2011, 01:58 PM
We don't have 2 jailors, its impossible. No sane host would put 2 jailors in a setup, its simply overpowered beyond belief - especially when there's also a vigilante and escort around. Voting night is trusting the orange mafia's word, not exactly wise now is it?

Denying the truth, are we? Ashlyn, you are the consig. Noelle is the doc, not Tracy. You have been proven scum by Noelle.


Forgot to answer this after reading Claw's huge post.

I'm sorry, what? Look at my findings mr. liar, trying to say I claimed something I didn't? Tracy was Citizen, not doctor and not Yuffie.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 02:01 PM
We don't have 2 jailors, its impossible. No sane host would put 2 jailors in a setup, its simply overpowered beyond belief - especially when there's also a vigilante and escort around. Voting night is trusting the orange mafia's word, not exactly wise now is it?

Denying the truth, are we? Ashlyn, you are the consig. Noelle is the doc, not Tracy. You have been proven scum by Noelle.


Forgot to answer this after reading Claw's huge post.

I'm sorry, what? Look at my findings mr. liar, trying to say I claimed something I didn't? Tracy was Citizen, not doctor and not Yuffie.

Oh, I think I mixed you up with Diedre. Either way, you cannot be coroner, so I am convinced you are scum.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 02:02 PM
Vote Night(6)- Peter, Wendy, Evan, Noelle, George, Ashlyn

Not sure of the other people voting, but frankly I don't care.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 02:04 PM
L-5 for night. Let's end this.

Ashlyn
October 27th, 2011, 02:05 PM
I vote night to prove Peter's lies, tommorow you'l see only one execution by jailor, not two.

Edna
October 27th, 2011, 02:06 PM
One last word.

I finally came to the conclusion that Mya is indeed a killing role. Probably Sephiroth. Because there was no Turk kill and no Sephiroth kill. The last Turk probably tried to kill Shawna. Shawna is a sheriff, NOT a framer, she was attacked by Turk. That Turk is probably Peter, he is the one who keeps framing her.

If you are going to night, then Wendy, roleblock Mya again. Don't worry, you will be watched.

I do not want to go in night as of now. Instead I want our jailor to be the second roleblocker/protector. I'll change my vote to Mya in any case. If rest of you still want to go to night, do it, I don't care.

-unvote Janice
-vote Mya

Omar
October 27th, 2011, 02:08 PM
-Vote Night

Vote Night (7): Peter, Wendy, Evan, Noelle, George, Ashlyn, Omar
Mya (1): Edna
Noelle (1): Janice

Omar
October 27th, 2011, 02:11 PM
L-4 for the night to start. I confirmed that night may start with Raiden in this manner.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 02:12 PM
hey guys

dont hammer night, i want to see journalist claim so i will know what to do next.

that is all.

Ashlyn
October 27th, 2011, 02:17 PM
I was attacked as well, as i've stated. Considering Shawna's claim that means Seph and Turk attacked us, not sure who attacked who exactly.

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 02:32 PM
Do not under any circumstances end this day yet. There are undiscovered liars here.

Connie
October 27th, 2011, 02:33 PM
I think I should clear up a town random power role. The game started with two masons. Myself obviously that other guy

Personally, I believe Noelle's claim on Doctor.

People we've attempted to recruit,
Edna, Wendy, Jaret

we bludgeoned the jenova cells out of diederere

Connie
October 27th, 2011, 02:33 PM
myself and*

Shawna
October 27th, 2011, 02:40 PM
Can someone explain to me what voting night gives us other than more deaths? I don't understand.

Also, I'm not Yayap.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 02:41 PM
INB4

JARET IS THE STUDENT OF SOME SCUM

this better be good.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 02:43 PM
Can someone explain to me what voting night gives us other than more deaths? I don't understand.

Also, I'm not Yayap.


Nameclaim pls

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 02:44 PM
Ill name claim. No one cares tho. lol


Jaczac.


explains my noobship.

Shawna
October 27th, 2011, 02:45 PM
I'm Ash.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 02:48 PM
Can mods confirm is Ash isnt dead? Can Ash come forth and claim?

I think Rita was Ash.

Also, do you think double cop and no investigator is redundant in this setup?
Did you spellcheck the newspaper you released? I think not.

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 02:49 PM
Lol Wendy.

I need to take a closer look at these role claims against the role-list is all.

Btw, Wendy can you explain to me why you believe Peter? I am sure you are probably right to, I just want to hear the reasons.

Connie
October 27th, 2011, 02:50 PM
also i think alec is mad because of the huge asshole i've been

Connie
October 27th, 2011, 02:51 PM
Oh and can masons leave death notes when killing cultists? I've been wondering about that.

Omar
October 27th, 2011, 02:51 PM
Ash was probably Glen -goes back into the shadows-

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 02:51 PM
Oh and can masons leave death notes when killing cultists? I've been wondering about that.


Same.

Oh, am i gonna be visited?

im bored at night.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 02:52 PM
Lol Wendy.

I need to take a closer look at these role claims against the role-list is all.

Btw, Wendy can you explain to me why you believe Peter? I am sure you are probably right to, I just want to hear the reasons.


easy. Because there is a whole jail circlejerk going on and you can see their codes if you look at their posts specifically. Wait till they log on and confirm, but that is a whole bunch of people we're talking about, way bigger than any team left surviving.
You're now a student to the consig. Nice to meet ya.

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 02:53 PM
Lol Wendy.

I need to take a closer look at these role claims against the role-list is all.

Btw, Wendy can you explain to me why you believe Peter? I am sure you are probably right to, I just want to hear the reasons.


easy. Because there is a whole jail circlejerk going on and you can see their codes if you look at their posts specifically. Wait till they log on and confirm, but that is a whole bunch of people we're talking about, way bigger than any team left surviving.
You're now a student to the consig. Nice to meet ya.


Please atleast provide me with some reasoning behind this accusation.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 02:54 PM
-VOTE NIGHT

Yren
October 27th, 2011, 02:54 PM
im a fagot lurker who has nothing to contribute

george is sk

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 02:55 PM
ok im kinda neat brained so ill say this


ITS
-VOTE NO LYNCH


WOO for neatness!

P.S.

Seriously.
i want nolynch.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 02:55 PM
Lol Wendy.

I need to take a closer look at these role claims against the role-list is all.

Btw, Wendy can you explain to me why you believe Peter? I am sure you are probably right to, I just want to hear the reasons.


easy. Because there is a whole jail circlejerk going on and you can see their codes if you look at their posts specifically. Wait till they log on and confirm, but that is a whole bunch of people we're talking about, way bigger than any team left surviving.
You're now a student to the consig. Nice to meet ya.


Please atleast provide me with some reasoning behind this accusation.


seeing how you're ready to counterclaim people i have confirmed for myself i assume you will do it in favour of ashlyn....
or are you the journalist?

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 02:56 PM
-unvote night

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 02:57 PM
Lol Wendy.

I need to take a closer look at these role claims against the role-list is all.

Btw, Wendy can you explain to me why you believe Peter? I am sure you are probably right to, I just want to hear the reasons.


easy. Because there is a whole jail circlejerk going on and you can see their codes if you look at their posts specifically. Wait till they log on and confirm, but that is a whole bunch of people we're talking about, way bigger than any team left surviving.
You're now a student to the consig. Nice to meet ya.


Please atleast provide me with some reasoning behind this accusation.


seeing how you're ready to counterclaim people i have confirmed for myself i assume you will do it in favour of ashlyn....
or are you the journalist?


LOL Ashlyn?

Lois
October 27th, 2011, 02:57 PM
Hi all. Don't have time to read through everything now, but will soon. The KPN is 3 at the moment, but if we hit Sephiroth or the Framer, we lower the KPN, which will preaty much ensure are already looming victory. For that reason,

Please don't end the Day

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 02:58 PM
Tonight's KPN is 4 right?

Sephiroth will kill twice?

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 02:59 PM
Woah, youre right!

-unvote night.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 03:00 PM
Tonight's KPN is 4 right?

Sephiroth will kill twice?


sephiroth didnt kill. still 3 kpn

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 03:00 PM
Ohhh! Good point :)

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 03:01 PM
Still unvote tho.

:|

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 03:01 PM
I'm still awaiting your roleclaim.

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 03:02 PM
Whose mine?

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 03:02 PM
Me? im cit.


*Looks at jaret*

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 03:03 PM
Whose mine?


yep bro.
you're not masonable, mr cit.

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 03:04 PM
Me?

Please refer to who youre talking to _-_

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 03:05 PM
You want me to reveal because of the possibility that I am a student to evil?

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 03:07 PM
You want me to reveal because of the possibility that I am a student to evil?




the danger has passed
we caught all the pokemons.
now claim, you dirty liar!

Connie
October 27th, 2011, 03:07 PM
alec kind of ragequit masons

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 03:08 PM
How is that possible C?

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 03:09 PM
You want me to reveal because of the possibility that I am a student to evil?




the danger has passed
we caught all the pokemons.
now claim, you dirty liar!


Very well.

Alec
October 27th, 2011, 03:09 PM
@Connie

Stop throwing a tantrum. First of all i am somewhat annoyed, and thoroughly bemused by you, but i hardly am angered by your inattentiveness. I just assumed someone who took a spot from a lot of willing players would be willing to contribute, as you have stated many times in day and night chat you refuse to of any value.

How can i quit the masons when I'm the only one between the both of us that has made good decisions and helped the town, and regurgitating the information I've already provided doesn't count.

Anyway.
Jaret tried to imply yesterday he was Vet.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 03:11 PM
Jaret tried to imply yesterday he was Vet.

that doesnt look good considering his "im cit" attitude

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 03:12 PM
Yes. Jaret. your life's on the line. make it good ;)

Connie
October 27th, 2011, 03:17 PM
@Connie

Stop throwing a tantrum. First of all i am somewhat annoyed, and thoroughly bemused by you, but i hardly am angered by your inattentiveness. I just assumed someone who took a spot from a lot of willing players would be willing to contribute, as you have stated many times in day and night chat you refuse to of any value.

How can i quit the masons when I'm the only one between the both of us that has made good decisions and helped the town, and regurgitating the information I've already provided doesn't count.

Anyway.
Jaret tried to imply yesterday he was Vet.


see the fury and anger of his hate speech, decrying me

it is exactly diatribes like this that i was already prepared for

Alec
October 27th, 2011, 03:17 PM
I did mention that i tried to recruit him yesterday, in the form of 'I know your secret jaret' or something to that nature, and he basically told me he acknowledged what i meant and not to bring it up...

Which is odd considering it was after that, towards lynch hour, that he tried to imply he was vet.

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 03:19 PM
Girls, dont fight, we gotta focous on sephiroth.

Alec
October 27th, 2011, 03:20 PM
@Connie

Stop throwing a tantrum. First of all i am somewhat annoyed, and thoroughly bemused by you, but i hardly am angered by your inattentiveness. I just assumed someone who took a spot from a lot of willing players would be willing to contribute, as you have stated many times in day and night chat you refuse to of any value.

How can i quit the masons when I'm the only one between the both of us that has made good decisions and helped the town, and regurgitating the information I've already provided doesn't count.

Anyway.
Jaret tried to imply yesterday he was Vet.


see the fury and anger of his hate speech, decrying me

it is exactly diatribes like this that i was already prepared for


Somewhere, on battle.net, a pub is missing a player. Connie i shrug in your general direction, and will no longer read anything containing your name in it's post. I can only hope the mod sees what he has done throughout this whole game, and sees that there are many people out there who would enjoy this game that are more deserving of a spot.

Raiden
October 27th, 2011, 03:22 PM
Given how crucial it has become to know each other identity, I will not confirm any more dead people COM id.

You will have to figure it out by yourself.


P.S.: you are still not allowed to lie in night chats, and you can't tell other people that you are dead if you aren't.

Connie
October 27th, 2011, 03:23 PM
I've always played mafia on the forums as well as on bnet, previous to the addition of LOL GRIND GAME FOR HATS, there was also the WC3 version.
Have you even read the previous forum mafia games? There has been players like me all the time, get over it.

Alec
October 27th, 2011, 03:26 PM
Aw C'mon raiden, even if we ask very very nicely with sprinkles on top? It's the only way we can know that the bad guys aren't just you on dummy accounts :P

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 03:33 PM
I am Aeris first and greatest of the Doctors.

I am deeply saddened that I have to break cover now because I have spent the whole game trying to conceal my identity, but I have decided it would probably harm town more for me to remain hidden. Alec spoiled my plans by revealing that I had not been recruited. I had intended (with his aid) to masquerade as a new mason to further solidify my cover. Yes I tricked you all. From the start of the game, my one mission was staying alive so that I could keep others alive.

This undoubtedly seals my death warrant, which is also unfortunate because I had intended on making it to the end.

At least now I no longer need to pretend I'm an idiot.

Points you should now consider, are as follows:
- Noelle claims "Doctor". Note that Noelle does not claim Aeris - this is because she knows I am still out here.

Either she is lying, or she is a doctor also. If she is also a doc then that accounts for another hidden town power. You can see now why I had some problems believing the proposed claimed role list.

Something else that strikes me as odd: Edna repeatedly misspells Ashlyn's name as Ashley even though she says she was watching her last night. It seems to me that in the process of choosing a player to watch and then submitting their name to Illidan you should invariably learn somebody's name. I would then suspect, maybe Edna didn't visit Ashlyn. However, the rest of the evidence seems to indicate she is in fact still a lookout.

I knew Deidre was lying as soon as she claimed Doc, but I also knew it wasn't worth me counterclaiming. I actually expected the scum to kill her that night in the mistaken belief she was the real doctor. Seemingly the masons took care of it instead.

List of targets chosen for protection:

N1- Barry. He was pretending to be Ash the pokemon master, which
N2. George. This was after Shawna had claimed and I was thoroughly convinced the scum would think that Shawna was under my protection. At this point I believed George to be town-power and a likely target for attack so I protected him.
N3. Shawna. Shit had cooled down on Shawna and a number of other power roles had claimed. Given that our investigator was dead I believed it of paramount importance to protect our possibly sole remaining investigative role. I also believed that scum might now seek to attack Shawna.
N4. Omar. It was a tossup here. My top 3 were Omar, Rita, and Wendy (in that order). I discounted Wendy because of the possibility she was vested and safe. I thought about Rita because I knew she'd still have one shot left and that we could almost guaranteed take out a scum the following night with it. However I knew that after she fired that shot she'd be essentially useless. So I chose Omar instead. I knew that an armoursmith and a doctor were a powerful combination and that heading into the endgame we could even heal each other if necessary.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 03:35 PM
Lois, do i remember correct that you were saying Noelle has no night action?

Lois
October 27th, 2011, 03:40 PM
Lois, do i remember correct that you were saying Noelle has no night action?
You are correct. Noelle did not target any one N1.

Lois
October 27th, 2011, 03:41 PM
If she was jailed or role-blocked, then it is possible that she is telling the truth. If not, we got a great GF/benign neutral candadite.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 03:45 PM
If she was jailed or role-blocked, then it is possible that she is telling the truth. If not, we got a great GF/benign neutral candadite.


yes finally someone who makes common sense instead of blindly accusing me I'm scum with ZERO evidence, other than a cult leader who "outed" me, because he had someone on the red team. If people thought me and Deirdre were on the same time, why would he do that if he wanted to win?

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 03:50 PM
If she was jailed or role-blocked, then it is possible that she is telling the truth. If not, we got a great GF/benign neutral candadite.


yes finally someone who makes common sense instead of blindly accusing me I'm scum with ZERO evidence, other than a cult leader who "outed" me, because he had someone on the red team. If people thought me and Deirdre were on the same time, why would he do that if he wanted to win?




nope.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 03:52 PM
If she was jailed or role-blocked, then it is possible that she is telling the truth. If not, we got a great GF/benign neutral candadite.


yes finally someone who makes common sense instead of blindly accusing me I'm scum with ZERO evidence, other than a cult leader who "outed" me, because he had someone on the red team. If people thought me and Deirdre were on the same time, why would he do that if he wanted to win?




nope.


what evidence do you have on me or noelle to contradict this?

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 03:52 PM
I lured you into a trap yesterday.

Lois
October 27th, 2011, 03:53 PM
Ok, since you are not believing me, i will reveal you full information regarding first three nights:

First night: Rita was visited by Lois and George.
Second night: Shawna was visited by Omar.
Third night: Wendy was visted by Carson and Omar.

I believe that should take you to lynch of Carson? And George, if you are not scum, then why you are still denying that you did not visited Rita? You once told on second day that there is 34% chance that she is Consiglere. Why you won't tell your intentions now?
Going to have to remind people that Edna's N1 analysis is completely wrong. I targeted Noelle, and George(you were a real prick yesterday with the fake-claim, and I can't believe that we are going to have to trust you again) supposedly now targeted no one a Lookout or Detective could pick up. Remember this before being too certain she is Lookout.

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 03:53 PM
a good doc always heals N1, hoping to get someone that mightve died since vigs cant kill n1. And a good townie always admits to being blocked/bussed etc.

Noelle did neither

Janice
October 27th, 2011, 03:54 PM
I lured you into a trap yesterday.


which still, ultimately proves nothing

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 03:56 PM
Anyway, amazing job, Alec, you have just killed a member of Mafia. But why did you risked your life for visiting Deidre? We did'n even had an idead that she was culted.

I want also to place some flowers at Rita's grave... wait his name was actually Vincent, was it? He did exactly what I told him to do - to shoot Glen. May sour soul rest in peace. we will finish this job.


Still reading page 2.

We have very good evidence that Deidre was culted.. didnt you read the Cult Leaders last will.

Ashlyn
October 27th, 2011, 03:58 PM
I find it amusing that you still believe every word in that will? The only way that will is true is if the cult leader threw the game.

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 03:58 PM
I'm the Coroner, you actually thought town didn't have one did you Peter?

Here is Tracy's real last will, and her role:

http://i44.tinypic.com/15eutza.jpg


Night 1: Went a stroll, no bodies to check.

Night 2: Checked Tracy.

Night 3: Checked Erika: Her target on night 1 was Deirdre.

Night 4: Jailed by "Mindy", whoever that is. I intended to check Katherine in order to make sure I know who the last cultist is, thats no longer necessary.


Notice how Peter is telling us to turn on Shawna? Its a nice fake, but there's another way you could know who the Consort blocked - and thats by being orange mafia yourself.

No lynch, 2 jailors, nice theory. Do we really have 2 jailors? Because seriously, I doubt that. This is a balanced setup with hidden roles, nothing is random, there are no 2 jailors. Your game is over Peter.

Another thing guys, I was attacked last night, but I was in jail so I was immune to it. Thanks Jailor, you saved me.


Still reading...

The "mindy" named jailor checks out. She was jailed that night.

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 04:00 PM
There is something that is out of my mind now.

It's the Town power role list, among which there are 6 hidden roles.

So, here is what I found:

Aeris - ?
Journalist - ?
Barrier Materia Trader - Omar
Cetra Ancient - Alec
Hidden Town Power Role 1 - Lookout - me
Hidden Town Power Role 2 - Sheriff - Shawna
Hidden Town Power Role 3 - Jailor - Michael/George
Hidden Town Power Role 4 - Detective - Lois
Hidden Town Power Role 5 - Coroner - Peter
Hidden Town Power Role 6 - Escort - Wendy

The conclusion? There is only 1 Jailor, and George is lying again, or Michael is not jailor. Therefore, we need to LYNCH someone now.

I'm certain that George is not town.


No George is Jailor. He used Mindy and Michael as an alias. He said he jailed ashyln last night. Her 'Mindy' story confirms this. I do not know however, who Michael really is. Since George fakes his name.

Alec
October 27th, 2011, 04:01 PM
Gotta read the last couple of pages

Jaret, sorry i gave you up but the problem was Wendy has been an MVP and i wanted her role list to be accurate, and she had you down as cit, even if i wanted to hide you as a mason I'm pretty sure Connie would've given you up anyway as he did with Wendy.

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 04:02 PM
Edna, I put my full trust in George. He IS town although the stupid prank Peter, ted and george played on us was completely unnecessary.
Want proof? Check day 4. They have been talking in code. ted can confirm whenever he comes by.


Well George 'Mindy' said he was really Michael... and George was a different role. However, due to his latest post I am inclined to believe him. Especially with Ashlyn confirming the Mindy name.

Lois
October 27th, 2011, 04:05 PM
-Vote: Mya

She was role-blocked last night. There was no SK kill. There was no Turk kill. If we his SK, we lower KPN. If we hit Turk, we lower KPN. Still don't see the logic in a no lynch. Give SK a better chance to charge up black materia? What are we gaining from a no lynch which is greater then the Pro's, exactly??

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 04:06 PM
-vote mya.


I are bloodlust because i am so totally lost.

Georege is jaier!
NO
SK!
NO JAILER!

BS HES SK!

arg.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 04:07 PM
Edna, I put my full trust in George. He IS town although the stupid prank Peter, ted and george played on us was completely unnecessary.
Want proof? Check day 4. They have been talking in code. ted can confirm whenever he comes by.


He was giving Michaels name to his jailees to use him as a bait. Look at peter's posts day 4 - "to george-[michael and ted]"

Well George 'Mindy' said he was really Michael... and George was a different role. However, due to his latest post I am inclined to believe him. Especially with Ashlyn confirming the Mindy name.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 04:08 PM
oops i derped

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 04:09 PM
-Vote: Mya

She was role-blocked last night. There was no SK kill. There was no Turk kill. If we his SK, we lower KPN. If we hit Turk, we lower KPN. Still don't see the logic in a no lynch. Give SK a better chance to charge up black materia? What are we gaining from a no lynch which is greater then the Pro's, exactly??


the benefit of having a nighttime doublekill.

Alec
October 27th, 2011, 04:10 PM
I still don't know what the general concensus is on if there are two jailors or not...

Because if there is only one, i would prefer we lynch someone.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 04:11 PM
The day is young. I want to see that journalist claim.

Lois
October 27th, 2011, 04:13 PM
-Vote: Mya

She was role-blocked last night. There was no SK kill. There was no Turk kill. If we his SK, we lower KPN. If we hit Turk, we lower KPN. Still don't see the logic in a no lynch. Give SK a better chance to charge up black materia? What are we gaining from a no lynch which is greater then the Pro's, exactly??


the benefit of having a nighttime doublekill.
Oops, yeah. Sorry, forgot about double Night kill

-Unvote: Mya

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 04:15 PM
Oh yeah.

Im gonna stick my head in a bucket now.

-vote no lynch

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 04:18 PM
im a fagot lurker who has nothing to contribute

george is sk


Still reading... but this claim is impossible. He knew everything of my jailing.

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 04:26 PM
If she was jailed or role-blocked, then it is possible that she is telling the truth. If not, we got a great GF/benign neutral candadite.



yes finally someone who makes common sense instead of blindly accusing me I'm scum with ZERO evidence, other than a cult leader who "outed" me, because he had someone on the red team. If people thought me and Deirdre were on the same time, why would he do that if he wanted to win?


One problem Janice... The cult leader know what the mafia were talking about. This is how we found diedre was culted. Since that information was correct on the only mafia NOT accused... I find it hard to believe that you are not Godfather.

THERE IS ONLY 1 proven jailor. Plato (michael) has not posted to confirm this. My/George's claim Michael was jailor was false. Michael claimed citizen to George in Jail. If you read Claw's LONG post.

Meaning A. Peter is full of shit. or B. Michael Lied to the jailor.

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 04:31 PM
Btw the benign neutral is still running amuck.

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 04:31 PM
If she was jailed or role-blocked, then it is possible that she is telling the truth. If not, we got a great GF/benign neutral candadite.



yes finally someone who makes common sense instead of blindly accusing me I'm scum with ZERO evidence, other than a cult leader who "outed" me, because he had someone on the red team. If people thought me and Deirdre were on the same time, why would he do that if he wanted to win?


One problem Janice... The cult leader knew what the mafia were talking about.. him. This is how we discovered that diedre was culted (Janitor information suspected due to wendy's RB). Since that information was correct on the only mafia NOT accused in Jack's last will... I find it hard... No... I dare say IMPOSSIBLE to believe that you are not Godfather.

THERE IS ONLY 1 proven jailor. Plato (michael) has not posted to confirm this. My/George's claim Michael was jailor was false. Michael claimed citizen to George in Jail. If you read Claw's LONG post.

Meaning A. Peter is full of shit. or B. Michael Lied to the jailor.


Fixed' and improved.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 04:33 PM
Also i fear Ted isnt Elixir. Elixir would never claim cit in Da'Vinci

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 04:34 PM
ted is ambient

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 04:35 PM
isnt alec ambient

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 04:36 PM
isnt alec ambient


Alec is SimpleFigment.

Lois
October 27th, 2011, 04:41 PM
Alec-Mason
Ashlyn-Coroner
Connie-Mason
Edna-Framer
Evan-Yuffie
George-Jailor
Janice-GF/Benign Neutral
Jaret-Doctor
Lois-Detective
Lukas-Citizen
Marc-Jounalist
Michael-Jailor
Mya-SK
Noelle-GF/Benign Neutral
Omar-Armoursmith
Peter-Consigliere
Shawna-Sherif
Ted-Citizen
Wendy-Escort
Yren-Citizen

Feedback on list please.

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 04:44 PM
I think you have 1 power role to many on there.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 04:46 PM
I think you have 1 power role to many on there.


Tis what i was talking about yesterday. Too bad i was full of derp and really wanted Shawna to be sheriff.

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 04:47 PM
I think you have 1 power role to many on there.


Tis what i was talking about yesterday. Too bad i was full of derp and really wanted Shawna to be sheriff.


I will make a full list, and we can analyze that as well.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 04:50 PM
Since everyone is nameclaiming, let me enlighten you: I am Yayap.

Mya
October 27th, 2011, 04:57 PM
Hello everyone, I am back and will be able to answer any questions you have for me.

For now I can confirm I was roleblocked.

I can insure you that I am not the SK, meaning that the SK was jailed or hit an immune/vested target. Other than last nights roleblocks no night actions have been performed on me.

Wendy you are cute, but unfortunately you are wrong. I ask that I be jailed or roleblocked again to confirm I am not the SK and the SK will kill and I will be proven innocent.

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 04:57 PM
I think you have 1 power role to many on there.


Tis what i was talking about yesterday. Too bad i was full of derp and really wanted Shawna to be sheriff.


I don't think Michael is Jailor. I think he is a citizen.

Mya
October 27th, 2011, 05:00 PM
I think you have 1 power role to many on there.


Tis what i was talking about yesterday. Too bad i was full of derp and really wanted Shawna to be sheriff.


I don't think Michael is Jailor. I think he is a citizen.


Unfortunately you are wrong, I take that slot. Alec, when you changed your avatar I made attention to it for a very good reason. Please look again and act accordingly tonight.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 05:01 PM
Midgar Population:
Alec-SimpleFigment
Ashlyn-???
Connie-S.A.S.
Edna-Fragos?
Evan-A replacement--nanosystem?
George-Claw
Janice-Deathfire123
Jaret-Muso
Lois-Auckmid
Lukas-Jaczac
Marc-Marcus?
Michael-Plato
Mya-Goonswarm
Noelle-Elixir
Omar-fred
Peter-Yayap
Shawna-FalseTruth?
Ted-Ambient
Wendy-philie
Yren-suicidaln00b

This should convince you that I am in fact Yayap. The only COMname I cannot pin is Ashlyn.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 05:03 PM
ashlyn - zack

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 05:05 PM
Why did you want us to use deathnote as a lead Mya?

Alec
October 27th, 2011, 05:06 PM
>.< Pressure is on again, allow me to do some re-reading and see what i can come up with. I see no reason to not let anyone know what im doing, so i'll let you knwo what i come up with.

Mya
October 27th, 2011, 05:08 PM
Yayap and others knew that I am Goonswarm due to a post mistake I made while moderating complaints. Anyway the last several F's I have been scum or power. It was only a matter of time before I got citizen once again, thus my inactivity and BF3.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 05:10 PM
ashlyn - zack

Ahhh, that makes sense. Hi Zack! It's too bad you ended up with consigliere this time around.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 05:11 PM
Citizen or jailer now?

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 05:11 PM
Alec - Mason
Arthur - (Cloud (amnesiac))
Ashlyn - Coroner/Consigliere?
Barry - Citizen [Culted]
Carson - (Elena (Consort))
Connie - Mason
Deirdre - Red Janitor [Culted]
Edna - Framer?
Erika - Investigator [Culted]
Evan - Yuffie?
Fiona - Citizen
George - Jailor
Glen - (Orange(Drug Dealer)
Herman - Sheriff
Isaac - Citizen
Janice - Scum
Jaret - RP Doctor
Katherine - (Prof. Hojo (Cult Leader))
Lionel - (Red (Mafioso))
Lois - Detiective
Lucinda - (Orange (disguiser)
Lukas - Citizen
Marc - Journalist?
Michael - Citizen (Claimed to George)
Mya - Probable SK
Noelle - Doctor/Scum
Omar - Armorsmith
Peter - Coroner/Consigliere
Riley - Citizen
Rita - Vigilante
Shawna - Sheriff/Framer
Ted - Citizen
Tracy - ? ? ?
Warren - Citizen
Wendy - Escort
Yren - Citizen

All citizens are accounted for Mya

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 05:11 PM
derp nvm
sure ill block you again.
you told me you loved me so its only fair

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 05:12 PM
derp nvm
sure ill block you again.
you told me you loved me so its only fair

Good choice Wendy.

Mya
October 27th, 2011, 05:14 PM
derp nvm
sure ill block you again.
you told me you loved me so its only fair


Either that or mason me. It will prove my innocence. Also ted, you take their word for fact. I know my role. One of them is not a citizen.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 05:15 PM
for those still delusional: i advice masons to send connie to check up on Ashley the coroner....
if town, he gets confirm
if scum, he gets confirm and alec can be happy.

Yren
October 27th, 2011, 05:16 PM
just fucking realized survivor isnt listed as a role card

wwhy

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 05:16 PM
Mya: this is no wifom game. I WILL block you.

-vote night

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 05:16 PM
for those still delusional: i advice masons to send connie to check up on Ashley the coroner....
if town, he gets confirm
if scum, he gets confirm and alec can be happy.

Perfect advice. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Mya
October 27th, 2011, 05:18 PM
Mya: this is no wifom game. I WILL block you.

-vote night

Sounds good to me. See you in the morning. Help me help you guys.

-vote night

Yren
October 27th, 2011, 05:19 PM
ALSO RECRUIT ME

Noelle
October 27th, 2011, 05:21 PM
Alec-Mason
Ashlyn-Coroner
Connie-Mason
Edna-Framer
Evan-Yuffie
George-Jailor
Janice-GF/Benign Neutral
Jaret-Doctor
Lois-Detective
Lukas-Citizen
Marc-Jounalist
Michael-Jailor
Mya-SK
Noelle-GF/Benign Neutral
Omar-Armoursmith
Peter-Consigliere
Shawna-Sherif
Ted-Citizen
Wendy-Escort
Yren-Citizen

Feedback on list please.


Okay.

1) Still don't understand how Edna is Framer
2) Still don't believe there are 2 jailors, I have not seen a single day 2 people claim to be jailed
3) Lol GF/Benign? I didn't claim 'Aeris' for a reason, I'm not Aeris. I'm not changing my claim however, because I'm not lying. If you still don't buy it, just lynch me, jail me, block me, idgaf; Town still wins... I still win. I wont get killed tonight because I'm Janice's last hope out of her hole so don't bother trying to protect me; Unless Sephioth feels like condemning her to death of course... lol wifom wifom wifom wifom.
4) It's spelled Sheriff.
5) I believe Peter over Ashlyn to be Coroner, due to the weak claim AND the cult leader last will... he would only want to protect his cult member, the rest of the mafia doesn't matter to him.
6) Janice is GF that much is true.




thus my inactivity and BF3.


Goonswarm does love BF3.

MORE POSTZ



Alec - Mason
Arthur - (Cloud (amnesiac))
Ashlyn - Coroner/Consigliere?
Barry - Citizen [Culted]
Carson - (Elena (Consort))
Connie - Mason
Deirdre - Red Janitor [Culted]
Edna - Framer?
Erika - Investigator [Culted]
Evan - Yuffie?
Fiona - Citizen
George - Jailor
Glen - (Orange(Drug Dealer)
Herman - Sheriff
Isaac - Citizen
Janice - Scum
Jaret - RP Doctor
Katherine - (Prof. Hojo (Cult Leader))
Lionel - (Red (Mafioso))
Lois - Detiective
Lucinda - (Orange (disguiser)
Lukas - Citizen
Marc - Journalist?
Michael - Citizen (Claimed to George)
Mya - Probable SK
Noelle - Doctor/Scum
Omar - Armorsmith
Peter - Coroner/Consigliere
Riley - Citizen
Rita - Vigilante
Shawna - Sheriff/Framer
Ted - Citizen
Tracy - ? ? ?
Warren - Citizen
Wendy - Escort
Yren - Citizen

All citizens are accounted for Mya


Much more accurate than the above list... Still not getting the framer vibe though.



for those still delusional: i advice masons to send connie to check up on Ashley the coroner....
if town, he gets confirm
if scum, he gets confirm and alec can be happy.


Easiest way to do it. I agree.

edit stop postitnitnignggggg



ALSO RECRUIT ME


Or they can not waste the recruit and check Ashlyn. Keep up?

My vote on night remains.

Mya
October 27th, 2011, 05:23 PM
My vote was not in color sorry.

-vote night

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 05:24 PM
Vote Night(9)- Peter, Wendy, Evan, Noelle, George, Ashlyn, Lukas, Lois, Mya

I think this should be right.

L-2

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 05:27 PM
Alec Citizen/mason
Ashlyn Rufus (Consigliere)
Connie Cetra Ancient (Mason)
Edna Hidden Town Power
Evan Citizen
George Hidden Town Power
Janice President Shinra (Godfather)
Jaret Aeris (Doctor)
Lois Hidden Town Power
Lukas Citizen
Marc Journalist
Michael Hidden Town Power
Mya Sephiroth (One Winged Angel)
Noelle Hidden Benign Neutralfail ghost/student to some scum
Omar Barrier Materia Trader (Armorsmith)
Peter Hidden Town Power
Shawna Yayap (Framer)
Ted Citizen
Wendy Hidden Town Power
Yren Citizen

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 05:28 PM
Vote Night(10)- Peter, Wendy, Evan, Noelle, George, Ashlyn, Lukas, Lois, Mya, Janice

Fixed

L-1

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 05:28 PM
Wait a second, if George denies being jailed where is the evidence for 2 jailors?

If we have only one jailor, then why are we no lynching?

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 05:29 PM
Wait a second, if George denies being jailed where is the evidence for 2 jailors?

If we have only one jailor, then why are we no lynching?


george jailed michael, not other way around

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 05:31 PM
Vote Night(11)- Peter, Wendy, Evan, Noelle, George, Ashlyn, Lukas, Lois, Mya, Janice, Omar

LOL NEVERMIND

MYA was the hammer. Sorry guys. Forgot Omar and Janice, the day is over.

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 05:31 PM
I know Michael never speaks, but what happens if we vote to end day before he even chooses a jail target for tonight?

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 05:31 PM
I sincerely hope he has chosen a jail target then.

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 05:32 PM
As this may well be my last day alive.

GG.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 05:33 PM
I sincerely hope he has chosen a jail target then.

As do I. Also Jaret, DO NOT heal me NO MATTER WHAT.

My death will CONFIRM the identities of every scum left alive. In fact, I hope you they do kill me so that you can see that I am coroner. My work here is done.

@Raiden Is it possible to -suicide?

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 05:35 PM
I wrote this in advance and just adjusted it now to account for night kills.

the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog AND REVEALS HIS ROLE!

It has come to this out of necessity. I must roleclaim for you to make the best possible choice today. You may be surprised at my recommendation and my role.

Or more likely,
"Peter is not a troll? WAT"

I am the
Coroner!

Surprised? I'll explain.

NIGHT ACTIONS:

Night 1: I was welcomed into a jail. The poster only used white text and was obviously Michael. I was frank with him and told him I was coroner. I invented a code with extra spaces so he could confirm to me that he was in fact the jailor who jailed me. I told him he could jail me again in case there was no clean for any particular reason.

Night 2: I check Tracy. Tracy was Yuffie. Her last will read:

"I get the best role in the game and u kill me. i would help town if i live............"
Not sure why Diedre lied about the last will if his death ensures his loss. I can assure you he is lying.

Tracy's N1 target was Janice. I'll get more into that later...

Night 3: I was jailed by Michael again, but I welcomed it again because I had the opportunity to tell him that Tracy was Yuffie. He told me that George had jailed him, so there were two jailors. This is how I knew George was town.

Night 4(last night): I check the consort. Her last targets were Michael, Barry, Wendy (right before she died).



This will answer a few questions for you:

Why do I support George?
-I thought he had jailed someone and realized that Warren was really the SK. I also had Warren as an SK suspect, so I listened to George even though he was lying about his role. Remember I specifically told George not to reveal? I said that because I thought he would reveal as jailor. For clarification, George is not the investigator, he is the jailor. I still want him to explain to us why he thought Warren was a good lynch.

Why troll?
-Because I wanted to survive. This information is invaluable and I suspected that the janitor would continue cleaning people.

Why wait to reveal?
-Why reveal so early when there are so many other scum targets, and no one really accusing you of anything?

Then why did you just reveal?
-To get you guys to listen to me. We need to find the sk and kill him before this town gets out of hand, but I see a better option than simply lynching him. I will explain more later.



Let's have a look at our role list shall we?

THERE ARE 10 ROLES HERE AND ONLY 9 ON ROLES LIST:
Armorsmith-Omar(Confirmed)
Doctor-(Confirmed)
Journalist-(Confirmed)
Coroner-Me(Confirmed)
Jailor-Michael(Confirmed)
Jailor-George(Confirmed)
Escort-Wendy(Confirmed)
Lookout-Edna(half-confirmed?)*
Sheriff-Shawna(half-confirmed?)*
Detective-Lois(Confirmed--found Drug Dealer)

*REGARDLESS OF WHO ANYONE ELSE IS, ONE OF THESE CLAIMS IS LYING*

GF-Janice(Confirmed by CL)
Consig-Ashlyn(Confirmed by CL)

Framer-???

Now... What is the best course of action? Well, we know either Shawna or Edna is lying. I have reason to believe Shawna is the liar here. It was not very hard to guess that Lionel was scum from Day 1 and half of Day 2 chats. He made a educated guess, and was cleared(when he shouldn't have been).

I think Shawna is the Orange Framer!



Best Course of Action:
This may surprise you, but I want to push for a NO LYNCH. We have 2 capable jailors and that is double the chance of finding the SK. SK is our first and foremost priority and we should want that we have the most chances to get him. If we don't kill and SK, we may just simply kill a scum. Either way, its still faster that a lynch which can be manipulated by scum.

Now the SK hunt begins. There was no SK kill last night, so I suspect he was either jailed or blocked. I will let Wendy, George, or Michael elaborate on this.

tl;dr: No lynch=Two jailors killing scum=double the chance of finding the SK. I recommend we DO NOT lynch today.


Michael is not jailor. #1 reason I don't believe this.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 05:37 PM
Michael is not jailor. #1 reason I don't believe this.

You will believe me when you see two jailed deaths, Ted. We're on the same team. Why else would I accuse the same people you accuse?

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 05:39 PM
Something doesn't feel right.

I hate premature hammers.

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 05:39 PM
Michael is not jailor. #1 reason I don't believe this.

You will believe me when you see two jailed deaths, Ted. We're on the same team. Why else would I accuse the same people you accuse?


He claimed citizen to the real jailor. That makes no sense.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 05:44 PM
Michael is not jailor. #1 reason I don't believe this.

You will believe me when you see two jailed deaths, Ted. We're on the same team. Why else would I accuse the same people you accuse?


He claimed citizen to the real jailor. That makes no sense.

I didn't even know he did that until today. I can't tell you why he did that because I'm not him. I wish he would just post. I told him to be more active but he complained about having no boyfriend and being alone. Apparently, he liked to jail me because I made him feel better.

Ashlyn
October 27th, 2011, 05:52 PM
You guys do realize that nobody ever confirmed Yren's role, right?

He was the first to claim citizen, nobody, not sheriff, mason, investigator, nothing - nobody ever ever checked him.

Don't you see that this was his plan all along? He is Sephiroth, I was attacked. He had the perfect tactic, although risky it paid off.

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 05:53 PM
O.o

I suppose we will find out.

Lois
October 27th, 2011, 05:54 PM
I put down that I didn't trust Shawna in my last will since N3, so that's going to be my deffence :P

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 05:55 PM
I put down that I didn't trust Shawna in my last will since N3, so that's going to be my deffence :P


She was only useful in Lionel. She said she got a guilty off Glen, and he was maybe framed. That does make her look... very iffy.

Ashlyn
October 27th, 2011, 05:59 PM
I sincerely hope he has chosen a jail target then.

As do I. Also Jaret, DO NOT heal me NO MATTER WHAT.

My death will CONFIRM the identities of every scum left alive. In fact, I hope you they do kill me so that you can see that I am coroner. My work here is done.

@Raiden Is it possible to -suicide?


lol, of course you are going to say that he told you no to that question. Go ahead, suicide if you can, one less scum for the town to lynch.

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 06:03 PM
This whole jailing thing doesn't add up but you're covering for each other so I can't spot the lie.

Lois
October 27th, 2011, 06:09 PM
Slightly change role list


Alec-Mason
Ashlyn-Consigliere
Connie-Mason
Edna-Framer
Evan-Citizen
George-Jailor
Janice-GF/Benign Neutral
Jaret-Doctor
Lois-Detective
Lukas-Citizen
Marc-Jounalist
Michael-Jailor
Mya-SK
Noelle-GF/Benign Neutral
Omar-Armoursmith
Peter-Coroner
Shawna-Sherif
Ted-Citizen
Wendy-Escort
Yren-Citizen

Feedback on list please.
I'm having quite a hard time telling whether Peater or Ashlyn is lieing, but I'm starting to lean towards Ashlyn being consigliere, making Evan Citizen. My only other slight problem is telling whether Edna or Shawna is Framer, but I'm still thinking Edna, due to her completely wrong N1 read.

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 06:11 PM
You guys do realize that nobody ever confirmed Yren's role, right?

He was the first to claim citizen, nobody, not sheriff, mason, investigator, nothing - nobody ever ever checked him.

Don't you see that this was his plan all along? He is Sephiroth, I was attacked. He had the perfect tactic, although risky it paid off.


This makes HUGE sense.

yren.

Prepare to be gassed in a cell

(k jailor?)

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 06:15 PM
Slightly change role list


Alec-Mason
Ashlyn-Consigliere
Connie-Mason
Edna-Framer
Evan-Citizen
George-Jailor
Janice-GF/Benign Neutral
Jaret-Doctor
Lois-Detective
Lukas-Citizen
Marc-Jounalist
Michael-Jailor
Mya-SK
Noelle-GF/Benign Neutral
Omar-Armoursmith
Peter-Coroner
Shawna-Sherif
Ted-Citizen
Wendy-Escort
Yren-Citizen

Feedback on list please.
I'm having quite a hard time telling whether Peater or Ashlyn is lieing, but I'm starting to lean towards Ashlyn being consigliere, making Evan Citizen. My only other slight problem is telling whether Edna or Shawna is Framer, but I'm still thinking Edna, due to her completely wrong N1 read.


I agree. My bets are: Ashlyn, Edna = Guilty

Lois
October 27th, 2011, 06:16 PM
Peter made a mistake with the vote count. I don't believe I ever voted to end day. Should I do so now?

Yren
October 27th, 2011, 06:20 PM
You guys do realize that nobody ever confirmed Yren's role, right?

He was the first to claim citizen, nobody, not sheriff, mason, investigator, nothing - nobody ever ever checked him.

Don't you see that this was his plan all along? He is Sephiroth, I was attacked. He had the perfect tactic, although risky it paid off.


no

Lois
October 27th, 2011, 06:21 PM
Lets not lynch yet. We have to hear 1 of the Jailors targets so we don't all target the same person.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 06:24 PM
Vote Night(10)- Peter, Wendy, Evan, Noelle, George, Ashlyn, Lukas, Mya, Janice, Omar

Sorry about that. Day isn't over guys. L-1

Yren
October 27th, 2011, 06:26 PM
fuc the night's

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$-VOTE EVAN$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 06:29 PM
Can someone unvote. We have more information to uncover...

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 06:30 PM
-unvote im out for the night.

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 06:34 PM
L-2

Someone smarter than me can verify peoples claims. Or I will get to it a little later.

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 06:37 PM
L-2

Someone smarter than me can verify peoples claims. Or I will get to it a little later.

George verified my claim and I wrote up my roleclaim before he even revealed as jailor. What more do you want?

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 06:39 PM
My claim was 7 minutes after his. You really think I could've lied about a claim that intricate in 7 minutes? I wrote that up long before Day started and I adjusted it after seeing the night kills in that 7 minute time period.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 06:41 PM
What do you want to uncover? This jail story must be true not only because I makes sense but also because you'd never come up with it if it didn't happen.
For those in doubt check day 4 before you doubt something, it makes for a perfect defense when you see jailer codes being passed on.
Im curious what noelle is.

Wendy
October 27th, 2011, 06:45 PM
Also you can post in marquee and get yourself modkilled

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 06:58 PM
Why the f won't Michel speak

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 07:11 PM
What do you want to uncover? This jail story must be true not only because I makes sense but also because you'd never come up with it if it didn't happen.
For those in doubt check day 4 before you doubt something, it makes for a perfect defense when you see jailer codes being passed on.
Im curious what noelle is.


She claimed doctor

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 07:12 PM
My claim was 7 minutes after his. You really think I could've lied about a claim that intricate in 7 minutes? I wrote that up long before Day started and I adjusted it after seeing the night kills in that 7 minute time period.

I know your post was not done in seven minutes. I have just been skeptical since I saw conflicting information.

Marc
October 27th, 2011, 07:19 PM
Hey, just wanted to let you guys know that I'm still here and reading. I can confirm that the role list is right and I am indeed a Journalist. I have to sleep so I won't vote to skip yet. Good luck.

Lukas
October 27th, 2011, 07:22 PM
I feel so lame as cit.

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 07:39 PM
Non citizens

Cop (Sheriff) - dead
Investigator - dead
Aeris (Doctor) - claimed
Journalist - claimed
Barrier Materia Trader (Armorsmith) - claimed
Hidden Town Power - vigilante (dead)
Hidden Town Power - Jailor
Hidden Town Power - Jailor - Seems to make sense with Peters intel.
Hidden Town Power - escort
Hidden Town Power - coroner x2 (ashlyn also claimed, probably red mafia
Hidden Town Power - detective x2 / Lookout (Edna claimed, so probably framer) (Janet is obvious GF)
Hidden Town Power - Doctor / sheriff (noelle/shawna - one is not truthful)
Cetra Ancient (Mason) - claimed

From what I have seen we have 2 people claim coroner. Obviously I believe peter over Ashlyn (Red mafia). Edna claimed Lookout, but is likely Orange framer as Lois got rid of Drug Dealer. Also lookout doesn't make sense.

So If Tracy was Yuffie...

Scum List
Janice - GF
Ashlyn - Consig

Murky List
Shawna/Edna - Framer?
Noelle - Has seemed pro-town
Mya - Cit claim. All cits have been accounted for, but of course.. an earlier claim may be fake.

Alec
October 27th, 2011, 07:40 PM
Edna is NOT scum. I have said that a few times but im still seeing people putting her down as the framer.

Edna is NOT scum, confirmed by masons [Night 3 i believe.]

Ted
October 27th, 2011, 07:42 PM
Non citizens

Cop (Sheriff) - dead
Investigator - dead
Aeris (Doctor) - claimed
Journalist - claimed
Barrier Materia Trader (Armorsmith) - claimed
Hidden Town Power - vigilante (dead)
Hidden Town Power - Jailor
Hidden Town Power - Jailor - Seems to make sense with Peters intel.
Hidden Town Power - escort
Hidden Town Power - coroner x2 (ashlyn also claimed, probably red mafia
Hidden Town Power - detective x2 / Lookout (Janet is obvious GF)
Hidden Town Power - Doctor / sheriff (noelle/shawna - one is not truthful)
Cetra Ancient (Mason) - claimed

From what I have seen we have 2 people claim coroner. Obviously I believe peter over Ashlyn (Red mafia). Edna claimed Lookout, but is likely Orange framer as Lois got rid of Drug Dealer. Also lookout doesn't make sense.

So If Tracy was Yuffie...

Scum List
Janice - GF
Ashlyn - Consig

Murky List
Shawna - Framer?
Noelle - Has seemed pro-town
Mya - Cit claim. All cits have been accounted for, but of course.. an earlier claim may be fake.


Edna cleared by masons - Claimed lookout - If she is not bluffing we have another town power that is lying. Or she is benign neutral.

Alec
October 27th, 2011, 07:49 PM
Also at the concensus of the town, I will vote to send Connie to check on Ashlynn's coroner claim.

Which by the way, it never once donned on me of Yren's potential to be Sephiroth. Frankly between the lurking, and the sometimes interjection of "hi, this person is bad, bye" leads me to believe he might be.... that being said...

I actually doubt he is.

At any rate, I'll let you guys take care of that loose end, The Masons will take care of ours.

Lois
October 27th, 2011, 07:51 PM
Shawna is lying

Lois
October 27th, 2011, 07:54 PM
Wow, Plato hasn't posted since Day 2. Plz post Miachel!

Lois
October 27th, 2011, 07:59 PM
Until we hear from at least 1 of the Jailors, I'll restart a wagon, just in case.

-Vote Mya

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 08:08 PM
Claw(George) told me on skype he is jailing Janice. He said he couldn't post because some personal problems came up. I just wanted to let you all know.

As for Michael, I don't know what to say. I guess we will just have to wait for him to post.

Jaret
October 27th, 2011, 08:16 PM
Skyping wtf

Peter
October 27th, 2011, 08:17 PM
Skyping wtf

A relative died. I think its warranted.

Alec
October 27th, 2011, 08:38 PM
For what it's worth, send him our condolences.