"Day IV: The Fall of Jenova" Discussion

[Raiden]

Day IV: The Fall of Jenova

Players revealed so far:
Rita = monster = Vigilante
Katherine = TheJackofSpades = Cult Leader
Mya = Goonswarm = Sephiroth

Midgar Population:
Alec
Ashlyn
Carson
Connie
Deirdre
Edna
Evan
George
Glen
Janice
Jaret
Lois
Lukas
Marc
Michael
Mya
Noelle
Omar
Peter
Rita
Shawna
Ted
Warren
Wendy
Yren



Roles:
President Shinra (Godfather)
Rufus (Consigliere)
Hidden Mafia role
Reno (Framer)
Elena (Consort)
Hidden Mafia role
Sephiroth (One Winged Angel)
Yuffie (Ninja)
Hidden Benign Neutral
Aeris (Doctor)
Journalist
Barrier Materia Trader (Armorsmith)
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Cetra Ancient (Mason)
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

Possible hidden roles:
Mafia: Consigliere, Consort, Disguiser, Mystify Materia Trader (Drug Dealer), Enforcer, Framer, Grave Robber, Janitor, Gunner (Mafioso).
Benign Neutral: Amnesiac, Executioner, Ghost, Jester, Student, Survivor, Witch.
Town: Bodyguard, Exit Materia Trader (Bus Driver), Coroner, Detective, Doctor, Escort, Jailor, Journalist, Investigator, Lookout, Cetra Ancient (Mason), Cop (Sheriff), Veteran, Vigilante.

1 Hidden Mafia (Red) has been accounted for.
1 Hidden Mafia (Orange) has been accounted for.
1 Hidden Benign Neutral has been accounted for.
There has been 1 role cleaned. Therefore, there will be 1 more role in the roles list than there are players.

Some of the roles above may or may not have unique RP names. You will eventually discover them while playing.

Graveyard:
Arthur (Cloud (Amnesiac)): pierced through the chest by a thin blade and subsequently impaled on a metal pole. [Night I]
Tracy (? ? ?): ? ? ? [Night I]
Lionel (Scarlet (Gunner (Mafioso))): thrown off the roof of a tall building by the angered crowd. [Day II]
Erika (Jenova-injected Investigator): impaled near Cloud's corpse. [Night II]
Riley (Citizen): thrown into a Mako Reactor engine. [Night II]
Lucinda (Tseng (Disguiser)): struck by day lightning, called by the use of a Thunder materia. [Day III]
Katherine (Prof. Hojo (Cult Leader)): shot in the head right outside of his now destroyed lab. [Night III]
Barry (Jenova-injected behemoth... i mean Citizen): blown up in the huge explosion that destroyed Hojo's laboratory while trying to protect his master. [Night III]
Herman (Cop (Sheriff)): vaporized by the Mako Beam. [Night III]
Fiona (Citizen): impaled on a cross-shaped metal pole. [Night III]
Isaac (Citizen): died of an heart attack at the local hospital [Modkilled]. [Night III]



Day 4 will end October 27th 2011 @9 p.m. CEST (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=27+October+2011%2C+21+pm+CEST). It will require 6 votes to lynch.

[Raiden]

We added a little something to Lucinda's death, so hopefully he may be happier now. :)

[Arthur]

LOLOLOL at Katherine's last will and death cause. THE TURKS KILL YOU YET YOU GIVE OUT THE NAMES OF SHINRA!

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[Katherine]

May I suggest that if we are driven we reveal this fact to the town, no keywords? The bus driver will know he drove us, it could backfire later on if we don't tell about it as soon as it happens. The doctor also probably knows if we get attacked, it is best to reveal being attacked, though there is a chance it might be the result of drugs...

Mods, can you clarify on the doctor please? I see nothing in the role card or the rules thread about it, does the doctor know if her targets get attacked?


Witched: Hot today isn't it?

Blocked: Great


Ok, my investigation code words for easy access:

Think/thinking
4: Your target appears as a simple commoner. He may be a Citizen, but he may also be President Shinra (Godfather) or Prof. Hojo (Cult Leader). Be careful, he may also be a Jester fooling around with you.

Town/Townies
3: Your target appears to have a lot of informations. He may be a Cop (Sheriff), Investigator, Consigliere or Executioner.

Guess/guessing
2: Your target is the bearer of legendary ancient powers. She may be Aeris (Doctor), but he may also be Sephiroth (One Winged Angel).

Good morning
1: Your target owns a wide variety of weapons. He may be a Vigilante or Jailor, but he may also be a Gunner (Mafioso).

Night
11: Your target works closely with the deads. He may be a Coroner, but he may also be a Janitor or a Grave Robber.

People/Citizens
10: Your target seems to have innate magical powers. He may be a Cetra Ancient (Mason), but he may also be a Witch or a Jenova-injected subject (Cultist).

Scum/Mafia/SK/Kill
9: Your target likes spending time with people at night. He may be a Bodyguard or an Escort, but he may also be a Consort or an Enforcer.

Who/Where/Why
8: Your target is surrounded by lots of different materia. He may be a Barrier Materia Trader (Armorsmith), an Exit Materia Trader (Bus Driver) but he may also be Yuffie (Ninja) or a Mystify Materia Trader (Drug Dealer).

Whats up
7: Your target follows people at night while remaining hidden in the darkness. He may be a Detective or a Lookout, but he may also be a Framer or a Ghost.

Wow/Whoa/Wtf/omg
6: Your target is very curious, and likes to ask a lot of questions. He may be a Journalist, but he may also be an Amnesiac or a Student.

Troll/Spam/Talk/Post/Reply
5: Your target lives in a barricaded house, barely leaving it, if ever. He may be a Veteran, but he may also be a Survivor.
The consigliere's code.
And if I had the Orange mafia, I would have given them away too.
That was for them trying to formulate a way to manipulate me, they investigated me n1.

[Arthur]

And I love the poem. Let me think here. It wasn't Byron, is it? Or was it that guy who wrote "Ode to a Nightingale"? What is his name? What is his name? I have it somewhere in my head.

[Arthur]

So they (red mafia) know who the sk or doc is?

[Katherine]

It was written by Percy Bysshe Shelley.

There is another variation, written in direct competition with Shelley(a friendly one) that goes like this:

In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,
Stands a gigantic Leg, which far off throws
The only shadow that the Desert knows:
"I am great OZYMANDIAS," saith the stone,
"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.
We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragments huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.

[Katherine]

Mya was their second investigation, and was found to be either doc or SK. For some insane reason they completely disregarded the possibility of doctor, and would have been the smartest recruit had my investigator not died.

[Arthur]

Shelley! AH yes. He was married to the creator of Frankenstein. He was an optimist through and through. I can't stand optimists. That poem has so much meaning in it. It has some meaning on the current state of COM, even.

[Lionel]

God damnit, goodbye Shinra :P Didn't think you'd try and recruit them anyway.

Yup that's the code Ashlyn was using.

So Deirdre is all by herself now?

If the Town don't win this game then they're a bunch of idiots :P

[Arthur]

Town is basically being handed the win here. Yeah. With their confirmed town having no chance of being culted, that means that once confirmed always confirmed. That sucks for the mafia, though.

[Katherine]

Now perhaps you begin to understand why I revealed the reds that are not under my control. The upset in the balance of power will lead to a town victory, which will end in the orange's loss as well. By killing me, even if I didn't know who they were yet, they spelled their own defeat indirectly.

[Raiden]

If the orange mafia doesn't pull out something really shocking out of their pockets, they are going to be the worst team of this game, and will possibly include some of the worst players as well.

Killing the cult leader (it wasn't random) at this point in game looks to me as the dumbest possible move. We'll see how it goes, although honestly i would have never done such an unnecessary and pro-town move.

Katherine's revealings will have little impact compared to what the oranges did today.

[Herman]

Rofl if Janice is the godfather. That means at least two out of the three people I decided to check were detection immune scum.

I checked George night 1
Katherine Night 2
and was going to check Janice night 3

If George is sk that would be three for three.

I think killing the cult leader was probably random but you would know more than me from their night chat.

Edit: Oh it wasn't random? Huh.

[Lionel]

Yeah, Janice and Ashlyn were probably going down anyway. Deirdre is sure to go down as well, I bet someone checked her last night.

You were vested n1 right? Because that's one of the only things I'm certain about in this game, Omar certainly seems like the Armoursmith.

Btw I know there could easily be 2 cops, but even more suspicion will be on Shawna today I think.

And Raiden I'm actually touched that you don't consider Shinra to be the worst team :) It was so promising for us night 1...

[Herman]

If town gets the sk today then that would pretty much be game over. It would take a long while but the scum kpn would be reduced by half.

[Arthur]

I was the worst team... I lost on night 1. no other team can do that....

[Arthur]

I just realized that you two are sort-of blind. Go into my thread and post what I ask you to.

[Katherine]

I didn't lie about being given a vest. Why would I?

[Katherine]

I was dead lynched, you know everything you need to know about me.

[Arthur]

I bet Omar will feel really stupid after he sees what role you were, Katherine....

Not everything. I have curiosity about your secondary objective. (Although no one has yet posted theirs...)

[Arthur]

Looks like red mafia found a detective/lookout/ghost/framer.

[Tracy]

philie cracked me again even thou i said almost nothing, kinda depressing, i probably should start reveal day 1 and wifom town if i will do smart or dumb moves :(

also she told me that she cracked like everyone else so i wont try to do any accurate list again, would someone be so kind to give me some kind of summary of the previous day since i now wont take the time to read 55 pages while another day is going on?^^

[Arthur]

Its only 17 pages if you are pro and have 50 replies per page....

[Barry]

lol you just had to take me down with you... ah well thanks for recruitng me, I've never been recruited mason or cult before though I expected to be masoned up

[Raiden]

Its only 17 pages if you are pro and have 50 replies per page....


I do :D

[Tracy]

still a shitload of posts...

also i prefer more pages, makes it easier if you stop reading for some time, then you know ah yeah i was exactly at page 30

[Katherine]

My secondary objective was inane, impossible, ridiculous, and idiotic.

It's not worth discussing.

And I'm sorry Barry, you were simply another casualty in my hunt for the orange mafia.

[Raiden]

My secondary objective was inane, impossible, ridiculous, and idiotic.


I must admit that we were quite out of ideas when we thought of your secondary obj, and it was indeed very hard. Narks managed to pull it off, but it was done in a whole different game and situation, with less people, less kpn and no lynches at all. Had you done it in this context, you would have been forever appointed as best player ever in the history of FM.

[Barry]

lol you thought I was scum? how flattering. So who are the mafias anyway, I have a shortlist of Janet, Dierdre, Ashlyn, Glen, Mya. those are my guesses anyways

[Arthur]

I'm lol'ing right now because I think that the consigliere found out someone who was going to claim anyway.

[Katherine]

I told the truth in my last will.
The remaining reds are:
Janice - Gf - Deathfire123
Ashlyn - Consigliere - Zack
Deirdre - Culted Janitor - Ganondorf

[Arthur]

Who shall we vote up?

[Lionel]

I told the truth in my last will.
The remaining reds are:
Janice - Gf - Deathfire123
Ashlyn - Consigliere - Zack
Deirdre - Culted Janitor - Ganondorf


No one is disagreeing with anything you say.

Especially that list because we all know who the Red Mafia are already :)

[Lionel]

God knows who to vote up at this stage, I think we're about to have some reveals.

I'm inclined to believe Edna, if anything just because she outed Carson. Bye bye Turks.

The only problem Town has is that they have too many targets to lynch :P They've got to get rid of Ashlyn, Janice, Deirdre, Carson... the Jailor will be busy tonight :)

[Barry]

So wait why didn't Dierdre die then? I still think if you off the cult leader everyone should die, or I should have lived :(

[Raiden]

lol you thought I was scum? how flattering. So who are the mafias anyway, I have a shortlist of Janet, Dierdre, Ashlyn, Glen, Mya. those are my guesses anyways


Nice list you have there barry :)

[Illidan]

So wait why didn't Dierdre die then? I still think if you off the cult leader everyone should die, or I should have lived :(

Half of the cultists dies. We randomed you :(

[Raiden]

So wait why didn't Dierdre die then? I still think if you off the cult leader everyone should die, or I should have lived :(


Half (rounded up) of the cultists die when the Cult Leader dies. There were 2 cultists, half of them (you) died :P

[Lionel]

So Deirdre has to win the game solo as Janitor (though she can still kill at night) despite everyone instantly outing her as scum in the last few days.

All I really want to do is vote for George, I really think Edna might be telling the truth which means he's lying for some reason. Looks like George may be lynched anyway; though with other pretty much confirmed scum they may decide he's less of a lynch priority.

[Barry]

lol you thought I was scum? how flattering. So who are the mafias anyway, I have a shortlist of Janet, Dierdre, Ashlyn, Glen, Mya. those are my guesses anyways


Nice list you have there barry :)


so I got dierdre and ashlyn cause of what katherine said. I didn't realize dierdre was culted until after I read the post so I thought he was bullshitting. Why did red want to kill the cult, that doesn't really make much sense to me, what about the others? Are any of them OJ mafia?

[Katherine]

-vote Mya

I would like to see if she is SK or not.

[Lionel]

Can't find the original post to quote but if I recall correctly the confirmed Orange Mafia left are Glen and Carson

And now I'm inclined to think Mya is Sephiroth now xD

[Lionel]

-vote Mya

I still want to see George and Noelle, but this just takes priority

[Barry]

-vote george, come on guys you know you want to see wtf he is after all the attention hes gotten

[Katherine]

I can assure you it won't be worth it. Please, vote with me.

[Arthur]

Barry, It is more likely that we will find out George's role before this day is over and most likely after its over.

-Vote Mya

[Herman]

-vote Mya

She was mostly off of my radar I think simply because her name... just doesn't sound threatening does it? Silly I know.

We'll probably find out what George is soon enough anyway. I'm really curious why he claimed sheriff though. Unless Shawna is the ninja lol.

[Herman]

I'm hoping the vig day shoots someone. He's been saving up his shots for so long now if he lets loose well that could seal the deal.

[Lionel]

I suspect Carson will be today's lynch.

Still keeping my vote on Mya though. I don't think George is anything interesting, I mean I don't think he's SK or the last Mafia or anything. I think he's tried to concoct some insane and convoluted plan, and is now annoyed that no one seems to be playing the way he'd like it.

Then again, this twisted plan could easily have involved putting himself in the SK death note.

[Lucinda]

lol you thought I was scum? how flattering. So who are the mafias anyway, I have a shortlist of Janet, Dierdre, Ashlyn, Glen, Mya. those are my guesses anyways


We tried to kill you day one btw......

[Lucinda]

Can't find the original post to quote but if I recall correctly the confirmed Orange Mafia left are Glen and Carson

And now I'm inclined to think Mya is Sephiroth now xD


Those are correct, I gave them away because well.... They aren't really hiding to well. However the third one wont be found for 2+ nights I suspect.

[Katherine]

I suspect Carson will be today's lynch.

Still keeping my vote on Mya though. I don't think George is anything interesting, I mean I don't think he's SK or the last Mafia or anything. I think he's tried to concoct some insane and convoluted plan, and is now annoyed that no one seems to be playing the way he'd like it.

Then again, this twisted plan could easily have involved putting himself in the SK death note.

Yeah. You've nailed Claw perfectly, Lunavium. Honestly, you're more acute to the real Claw than the people who think they know him.

[Barry]

-unvote george
-vote mya

[Raiden]

1 more vote to deadlynch Mya.

[Barry]

lol you thought I was scum? how flattering. So who are the mafias anyway, I have a shortlist of Janet, Dierdre, Ashlyn, Glen, Mya. those are my guesses anyways


We tried to kill you day one btw......


well that would have been lame

[Raiden]

Oh lol i remember that. The oranges went to Barry. Their killer was blocked, and Barry was healed by Aeris.

Talk about bad killers :P

[Katherine]

For the record Barry, I really hoped you would be the one to survive, Deirdre's death would have been far more compelling towards my case and would mean that my last culting would not be well known.

[Lucinda]

Well, I tried to tell them I didn't think it was a good idea to send me. Then again I also thought it was a good idea to frame me lols.

[Lucinda]

-vote mya

I did kinda suspect her as a town power or something.

[Raiden]

Mya's role is: Sephiroth (One Winged Angel)!

[b]Her COM identity is: Goonswarm!

[Erika]

Katherine, why did you recruit me?

[Barry]

Mya's role is: Sephiroth (One Winged Angel)!

[b]Her COM identity is: Goonswarm!


oh snap!

[Lionel]

Hahahaha!

[Katherine]

I recruited you because the Reds thought you might be orange, you were very unlikely to be healed, not likely to be attacked(I hadn't considered the possibility that the SK would be interested in killing investigators only), and if you weren't Orange I knew you were at least smart enough to soundboard ideas off of and were likely a power role for calling Deirdre out.

So no, it had nothing to do with you accusing Deirdre, if that's what you were wondering.

[Erika]

I just thought it was odd because of how I pretty much solely called out Deidre the day before, it would have been difficult for me to back off from that the following day without looking suspicious.

[Barry]

wait did the reds think I might be orange too? Also it would be pretty balsy for me to ask the masons to recruit me and be mafia but if you can get away with it that is a nice death trap I guess.

Also what did raiden mean, how did orange know katherine was cult leader?

[Katherine]

I don't think I should be the one to reveal that. If Raiden or Illidan wants to, it's up to them.

[Raiden]

They did not have any hard evidence, but it was clear they had VERY strong suspects, which in the end turned out to be true.

I also asked one of them if they were intentionally killing the cult leader or if it was some kind of ploy, and he said yes.

[Arthur]

So the red mafia DO know who sephiroth is. that makes this game a lot more interesting....

[Lucinda]

And WENDY* is gonna waste a block..... They may not even figure out who the SK is for another 2 days.

[Riley]

Still think george is jailor.

[Lionel]

Is Glen actually a drug dealer? I mean we know he's with the Turks but is Drug Dealer actually the role?

There's been a distinct lack of Bus Driven claims, or Witched claims. I don't think anyone's actually claimed attacked then healed yet. Of course there's been plenty of roleblocks, but there hasn't been much to suggest they were false.

Curious about Lois now though :) She's been making some smart calls all game and stayed under the radar.

[Arthur]

I was "witched" on night one but I doubt that.

[Lionel]

Alec's 'list' made me laugh - Ted, Noelle, Mya - Well we know Mya is SK, and Ted/Noelle are serious contenders for the last Orange (just because Lucinda said that they're looking innocent, and those 2 are both being very aggressive in attacking others whilst not actually pioneering many claims/hard info). I'm probably wrong though, I stopped making notes some time ago.

[Arthur]

LOLOLOLOL at Glen's claim about Rita.

[Arthur]

If I were Rita I would day shoot Glen for lying about her.

[Lionel]

I know that prolonging the day for as long as possible is always beneficial to the Town... but seriously these guys need to get on with it at some point. They have evidence, lots of it, they've pretty much got several confirmed scum. All they're doing at the moment is forcing more and more Town roles to reveal themselves.

Deal with the baddies you've got already, and for the love of God people have got to stop making lists and then not act on them.

[Arthur]

lol @ Dierdre. He just doesn't get it. Everyone and their dog knows that he is scum. He just can't get away from that.

[Lionel]

lol @ Dierdre. He just doesn't get it. Everyone and their dog knows that he is scum. He just can't get away from that.


I haven't read her reply yet, but let me take a guess;

She'll begin by defending herself directly against a post someone made a some pages ago. She'll then go into length about how the claim is based on no evidence and/or is a personal attack. She'll then put forward a hypothesis about why someone else is scum based on nothing but weak WIFOM and guesswork herself - something she'll be able to take back and say it was only a 'possible' theory.

Let me read the last page now.

[Fiona]

Welcome to Heaven.

[Arthur]

Yes. Exactly. LOL...

[Arthur]

A wild troll appears!

[Katherine]

Ganondorf actually made a pretty convincing doctor defense, I wonder if he'll still use it.

[Arthur]

Did anyone see what Alec was talking about?

[Lionel]

Bwahaha Doc claim, inviting Mason conversion and shifting the focus back to Glen (whilst trying not to look like she's pushing the Glen lynch too hard).

The Doc claim had 'some' thought behind it though - she can easily be counterclaimed, but making the Doc reveal would be a moral victory since there's so many scum still left that the Town still needs to be careful at night because they can't defend against them all.

Random townies should then ask her stuff, like 'So what night did you heal me?', that might force her hand into a mistake. Not that anyone will believe her in the first place though. :(

[Katherine]

He cut like 75% out of it as far as I can tell. It wasn't really what I was referring to.

[Arthur]

he had this prepared?

[Katherine]

Yes. For a different reason, though.

[Arthur]

Hmm. Interesting.

[Arthur]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL at FalseTruth

[Arthur]

I just saw his post. Apparently he is Peter.

[Arthur]

So Warren claims citizen here is what he says:

i h a t e b e i n g c i t i

this is from his f5 post.

[Arthur]

DAMN GEORGE (Bush). He just outed a doctor. Mafia and SK are going to have a field day.

[Arthur]

Warren just admitted to being the Doctor, uh oh....

[Riley]

He would be a fuckin invest.
QQ, pew pew.

[Arthur]

But with our knowledge, we know that he is misguided in thinking that Warren is the SK.

Edit: I just realized that I made a sextet of posts. Arthur FTW

[Katherine]

His conviction that Warren is SK based merely on his investigation and the stipulation that the masons haven't visited him is uh... odd.

[Arthur]

No kidding. It's probably his own read on Warren is one who doesn't want others to know his identity. The flaw in that is that doctors should be operating like that so that they aren't picked off.

[Katherine]

I think I understand now. He is confused by Deirdre's claim of being doctor.

[Herman]

Why was he pushing to lynch Wendy? Was is just some sort of gambit?

He never claims to have investigated Wendy. I understand claiming to be the sheriff since an invest is an sk target but...

[Katherine]

Probably has something to do with the fact that he isn't even what claims to be yet again. Claw is gonna feel like a retard if this lynch sticks.

[Lucinda]

Why was he pushing to lynch Wendy? Was is just some sort of gambit?

He never claims to have investigated Wendy. I understand claiming to be the sheriff since an invest is an sk target but...


Executioner? I can't think of any logical reason to think wendy is anything but a escort, seeing as how almost no one has been driven.

[Erika]

Town has gone down the wrong path ever since Wendy logged off.

[Illidan]

Welcome to the Lifestream Carson, enjoy your stay :P

[Lionel]

Why hello Carson :)

Enjoy watching the Town lynch the probable Doctor.

I think I need to do some quick maths at some point and think whether it's statistically possible for either Mafia to win if the Town lynches and kills everyone they've called out. Deirdre is definitely dying, Glen is definitely dying, Janice is definitely dying, Ashlyn will most likely die... this leaves us with the 1 unknown Orange Mafia.

I think Mya's cover will be sound until a Mason visits her.

As for the last Orange Mafia? God I suspect so many people. The fact that Noelle hasn't come under any scrutiny, and her sympatico relationship with Alec and Ted, makes me think she's a Mason. If Alec, Noelle and Ted are all Masons then they've done a pretty good job at finding scum together.

[Katherine]

I believe Noelle is Yuffie.

[Katherine]

What the hell is the other neutral anyway?

Not witch - nobody has reported witching for 3 days.
Not exe - nobody has been lynching people without a solid roleclaim behind it
Not amne - already had one

Ghost? - I don't see anyone going out of his way to get himself killed at night
Jester? - only warren is trolling his ass off, but that would be way too obvious
student? - same combo as last game?
survivor? - not even in the role card list
fix'd

[Lucinda]

Katherine survivor is possible as it is stated so in the hidden beign neutral list.

[Katherine]

That's fine, but there's a role card for citizen, but not for survivor.

I don't buy it.

[Raiden]

Aw, fuck, we forgot to put it in the role cards. Oh well, the neutral is not a survivor.

[Herman]

Exec win?

[Katherine]

Welcome to being dead, Zane?

[Lionel]

Can you tell us what the last neutral is? :P

[Arthur]

lol. I bet some of the townies are shitting themselves right now at Warren's role.

[Warren]

;)

[Warren]

Katherine gets a point! Lulz.

[Raiden]

Can you tell us what the last neutral is? :P


Nah, you will have to deadlynch him :P

[Katherine]

I say tomorrow we dead lynch Noelle.

[Erika]

I'd be up for it.

[Lionel]

I say tomorrow we dead lynch Noelle.


Aye, I have a feeling we'll find out George's identity tomorrow anyway but unless she gets killed we won't know Noelle's identity until the end of the game.

We found the CL and SK with our deadlynches so far... I suppose we're mostly on the lookout for Yuffie now? :P

[Katherine]

If you help me dead lynch Noelle tomorrow, I will reveal George's role.

[Lucinda]

Warren wasn't a doctor? Who investigated him again?

[Lionel]

-vote Noelle

For whenever we can deadlynch again, I'll repeat it.

What is George and how you know? ^^

[Lionel]

I really really wish I could see Shinra night chat right now... I bet Deirdre is telling Ashlyn and Janice that they've been confirmed as Mafia in her last will and any hint of trying to get her lynched and she'll reveal :P

I really wish my secondary objective DID involve me having to kill my own teammates at some point, but I suppose being culted is just as devious.

[Arthur]

I will deadlynch Noelle if she does not die this night. I am curious, as well, as to how you know George's role.

[Herman]

George won't die tonight. The mafia and sk have no reason to kill him and the vig might think he's a ghost.

Katherine maybe knows what the consig's code is?

[Arthur]

AAH. That's how Katherine knows. The red mafia must have investigated George and put it in the code. The code was posted earlier this dead chat.

[Herman]

Oh hey Warren. Did you have a plan of some sort or were you just having lols?

[Arthur]

I now know what George is. I will let Katherine tell when she is ready since she wants to keep it a secret for now.

[Katherine]

I know because I am the focal point of a few player's admiration and respect. When I die, I am showered with half-clues and miscellaneous thought processes and ideas. It really helps clarify things.

I admit I did know to lynch Mya from their code, they investigated me N1, and N3 I do not recall 100% who they investigated which is my fault, but I did have forethought enough to C&P the key to the cipher.

[Arthur]

People were PMing you?

[Katherine]

Not really, no.

[Barry]

I nominate george/claw for the troll forum mafia award... seriously wtf is he doing

[Lionel]

I think I've worked out what George is.

He has utterly failed so far imo xD

[Barry]

what is your theroy? and why is my post count stuck at 90?

[Lionel]

I need to go back over what's happened in more detail to confirm my thoughts, which I can't do right now because it's 2.22am and I'm going to sleep xD

I'm just glad Katherine had the presence of mind to copy-paste Ashlyn's consig code, since I forgot to.

[Illidan]

what is your theroy? and why is my post count stuck at 90?

Post count do not go up in night chats and dead chats.
For dead chat is to avoid living people to know that the sanitized guys are not Ghosts.

[Katherine]

Whoever pm'd Goon that he was dead lynched, bad move.

Goon rages whenever anything bad befalls him when he's evil.

[Illidan]

Indeed. Revealing events that happened in dead chat is forbidden. This must never happen again.