S-FM 133: Deaths Deadly Damned Detroit

[deathworlds]

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/24571-SFM-Deaths-Deadly-Damned-Detroit

You were doing whatever people do in Detroit (Rioting, Screaming, Running from gangs etc). When all the sudden "OH SHIT! Its the anniversery! FUCK, GET OUTTA HERE" But alas, the spell has been cast. You are one of the 8 people that are actually law abiding Citizens of Detroit. However, you know that there are alot of Criminals in Detroit (even people in Africa know this). You see your chance to inact justice against the Criminals that seek to have the time of their lives. Although it is not quite that simple. Detroit has been blessed with the pressence of the powerful Assassin, who fights not for justice, but for personall gain. Then there are those that have their own goals...

You are now stuck in Detroit.

Players List:
1. Orpz
2._Q2
3.jaczac
4.PoD
5.Citrus
6.Nicole
7.Vantas
8.Hypersniper
9.Winter
10.Vinyl
11.xRavenx
12.Slaol
13.louiswill

Night will start at https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=May+tenth+6pm+PST

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[deathworlds]

Good luck.

[Vinyl]

Okay, so here's the deal...
ONE OF US... Is a bad guy...
So, I say it's not me.

[louiswill]

Moo st.

[Vinyl]

I think it's Orpz because swegg nazis.

[louiswill]

8 town 1 null 4 bad null

4 out of 13 ~ almost 30%

I suggest a random lynch or 2 pressure trains for day 1.

starting with Orpz, VIP from previous FM mafia.

Orpz

[louiswill]

I think it's Orpz because swegg nazis.

what a coincidence! Whelp! sheep me your vote then.

[jaczac]

Vinyl, i just wanna thank you for changing your profile pic

LET THE DAY ONE SHENANIGANS






​BEGIN

[louiswill]

sheep my vote to L -2 Please!!

[Vinyl]

Done, it's been nice working with you.
And that's business, friends,

[Vinyl]

No problem, I'm sorry.

[Vinyl]

Uhh... How do I sheep a vote?

[jaczac]

I usually dont like D1 lynches because shenangigans but w/e

orpz

this is just d1 shenanigans right?

[louiswill]

hmm type [vote[ XXXXX [/vote[

[Vinyl]

Orpz

[louiswill]

I usually dont like D1 lynches because shenangigans but w/e

orpz

this is just d1 shenanigans right?


The thing is this, if you are playing against mafia, you don't want random lynch too much, because mafia is able to pull mislynches at critical game point due to sharing night chat and act as an organize.

When you fighting loosing crime, it is a different case.

[Vinyl]

I usually dont like D1 lynches because shenangigans but w/e

orpz

this is just d1 shenanigans right?

No shenanigans here...
MAYBE I'm a terrorist...
MAYBE I'm trying to get into your head so I can kill you...

[louiswill]

I would expect Oprz shows three types of reaction:

1. Yolo don't care.
2. Counter lynch! -vote someone
3. wifom claims.

Basically, Orpz doesn't argue back with blocks of posts for some day 1 train, so I would expect that much from him.

[jaczac]

yeah, i just wanna say im not a fan of yolo d1 lyches for fear of hitting a townie but hey.

w/e

[Vinyl]

He doesn't seem to be responding, so I'd say #1.

[deathworlds]

I would like to remind everyone of the rules.

No outside communication
No editing posts
No Links
No Invisable Ink
No Lurking
Day 24 hours, Night 24 hours.
Night actions must be PM'd to me 2 hours before night end's
Automatic vote counter's
51% Lynch
Questions in Green, Answers in Red
Last wills are allowed
Death notes are not allowed

[Vinyl]

DeathWorlds, sheep your vote plox.

[Vinyl]

Because you love me

[Orpz]

Jester

[Orpz]

My gameplay in this game can be summarized by one of Slaol's more beautiful quotes:

Lynch me or you're scum.

[Citrus]

Ah on the contrary, lynching d1 is good but random lynching gives less info. It's much better to force people to take a stance

[Citrus]

Jester

orpz

Your move louiswill

[Vinyl]

Jester

GG...

[Orpz]

Town has nothing to fear from my lynch.

Only first vote and last vote dies. So Louiswill (probably scum for random'ing Town MVP) and Hammer dies. Hammer voters on D1 have shown a trend of being scum.

[louiswill]

I'm corrupted journalist, I would lynch jester, just because I want to live and Oprz, if jester, then a winner by default.

Also I offer you guys the exactly same deal I have offered in one game last year:

Tell me who do you guys want to interview.

because
"The person you selected cannot hint at his/her identity in the article."

but if you guys ask me first, it is a different case.

[Vinyl]

Well, everyone else is giving away their roles, so I guess I will too.
I'm BodyGuard.

[louiswill]

Also

I can be both the first voter AND the hammer.

I can unvote and someoone else vote, then I hammer.

But I wouldn't do it.

I'm not at the same side with you guys, I started a train on a jester claim, so I can't escape, but you guys also have to donate a tribute.

I'm NOT willing to assist town out of my boundary even if oprz is a jester.

Fair trade, and equal risks must be enforced.

[Vinyl]

Louiswill was first vote, I ain't do'd SHEIT.

[Citrus]

The last time Louis this, he was in fact the corrupt journalist

[louiswill]

The last time Louis this, he was in fact the corrupt journalist

yea, and last time I fished all scums into my lynch except mateo. haha.

[Citrus]

yea, and last time I fished all scums into my lynch except mateo. haha.

This is true. Too bad you weren't town and couldn't capitalize on that :p

[xRavenx]

Seeing as it's day 1 and I don't think anyone's being serious, it might be a good idea to just not lynch. Unless everyone agrees to be serious, in which case I'd support a lynch.

[powerofdeath]

I am Survivor.

[Vantas]

I am Survivor.legit. Totes.

Alright, gonna read up on day.

[Vantas]

Ahhhhlright, we vote journalist GG WP YOU ALL CAN BASK IN MY GLORY!!!!?!!!1!!!1!!!1!!!

louiswill

@orpz screw u umg

[jaczac]

orpz

Sorry, guys, im not feeling it.

[_Q2]

orpz

Sorry, guys, im not feeling it.
Rude.

[Vantas]

Rude.Rude for calling someone rude.

[jaczac]

Rude for calling someone rude.
Rude for calling someone Rude for calling someone rude

[Vantas]

This whole cycle is rood.

[_Q2]

This whole cycle is rood.
Vantas

You spelled rude wrong, and that's rude.

[deathworlds]

Guys stop being rude and kill eachother.

As the mayor of Detroit I demand entertainment. (no strippers)

[Vantas]

deathworlds Have death if you want it so bad.

[Orpz]

Vantas

[Nicole]

I am your friend! Lets win together!

[Orpz]

I am your friend! Lets win together!

Vote me please. You won't die because you aren't the first or the last voter.

[Slaol]

My gameplay in this game can be summarized by one of Slaol's more beautiful quotes:

Lynch me or you're scum.

My gameplay in this game can be summarized by one of ckMistro's more beautiful quotes:

No matter what you are, always claim Mass Murderer.

[Slaol]

Vote me please. You won't die because you aren't the first or the last voter.

Fuck it I'll suck this dick.

Orpz

[louiswill]

Fuck it I'll suck this dick.

Orpz

It shows the God of mafia is at myside.

Everyone vote Orpz! We end the day early!

[jaczac]

I dunno. Random killing seems like a bad plan >.>


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[Orpz]

Not random. Vote me.

[_Q2]

Orpz

Yolo, amirite? If they're saying that they want to be lynched, then we may as well get a Jester out of the way now before they can have a much bigger effect on the game toward the end. I'm sure neither Town nor Mafia would want to see a solo Jester win come around.

[louiswill]

I dunno. Random killing seems like a bad plan >.>


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lol

"Random lynch is bad!"

I have heard enough of it.

The lowest successful rate of random lynch depends on MATH only.

The highest damage of random lynch depend on FACTION strength.

Now add Orpz's claim. It is a legal lynch, best guess, or whatever you want to call that.

[louiswill]

If Orpz at L-1 and jaczac doesn't hammer.

jaczac should receive huge tons of scum read from that one lmao.

I'm corrupted journalist. It is not a lie.

The best outcome for town is that Orpz did not lie, you sacrifice a member to take out two non-town players.

The worst outcome for town is that Orpz is a TPR, claim jester and get lynched.

How bad you think Orpz can be?

TPR claim jester and get lynched? That is Bloody impossible for Orpz.

LOL.

[Orpz]

jk I am indeed Town

[Orpz]

Next 2 people to vote me are scum.
I believe PoD's claim.

[_Q2]

Someone is lying about their claim because of there being a Killing Neutral out there. Orpz seems to have cleared that up, so knowing both Non-Killing Neutrals will help us out, especially with Night Actions; PRs can coordinate with those Neutrals and get a good rally point against the Killing Neutral and the Assassin.

Orpz
I see Orpz as Town, but I don't see Jaczac as scum yet. Orpz was at L-2, not L-1, so there was more reason for him to vote due to the fact that he wouldn't commit suicide, but he stood by to what he said about the random lynch. He's not really done anything to stand out quite yet except for that, and it really doesn't give him scum credit anyway.

[powerofdeath]

I'm corrupted journalist, I would lynch jester, just because I want to live and Oprz, if jester, then a winner by default.

Also I offer you guys the exactly same deal I have offered in one game last year:

Tell me who do you guys want to interview.

because
"The person you selected cannot hint at his/her identity in the article."

but if you guys ask me first, it is a different case.

I command you to interview me!

[powerofdeath]

But really, I'm survivor. Not retracting, I just wanna survive.

[Citrus]

Someone is lying about their claim because of there being a Killing Neutral out there. Orpz seems to have cleared that up, so knowing both Non-Killing Neutrals will help us out, especially with Night Actions; PRs can coordinate with those Neutrals and get a good rally point against the Killing Neutral and the Assassin.

Orpz
I see Orpz as Town, but I don't see Jaczac as scum yet. Orpz was at L-2, not L-1, so there was more reason for him to vote due to the fact that he wouldn't commit suicide, but he stood by to what he said about the random lynch. He's not really done anything to stand out quite yet except for that, and it really doesn't give him scum credit anyway.

There's only 1 neutral that can win with town, and that's the Hidden True Neutral. Which PoD cc'ed Orpz for.

Pretty sure Orpz is town, at least so far

[Citrus]

Louiswill

Any thoughts on being lynched today Louiswill?

[powerofdeath]

What if a survivor win MVP?

[louiswill]

Louiswill

Any thoughts on being lynched today Louiswill?

Nope. I just do what I see fit.

So Pod claim survivor, Orpz retract Jester claim.

Any thought on that?

Does those give them town read or scum read?

You read Orpz Town? lmao. Sure, read is somewhat a personal opinion thing anyway.

Since Orpz retract his jester claim, it is time for me to switch train.

[louiswill]

It is a good day to die.

Nicole

Try someone new.

[louiswill]

Oh btw, I strongly suggest those active familar face don't vote me.

Let those who are new vote instead. It is a great chance to see their reaction to corrupted journalist.

[jaczac]

I command you to interview me!

Noooo me!


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[Citrus]

Oh btw, I strongly suggest those active familar face don't vote me.

Let those who are new vote instead. It is a great chance to see their reaction to corrupted journalist.

Very well.


Orpz

Yolo, amirite? If they're saying that they want to be lynched, then we may as well get a Jester out of the way now before they can have a much bigger effect on the game toward the end. I'm sure neither Town nor Mafia would want to see a solo Jester win come around.

Something about this post rus me the wrong way. I don't think I'm very familiar with your posting tone/style, but the way you went about this post just strikes me as odd.

_Q2

Why did you make yourself sound like a neutral chiming in with his/her opinions? Because FYI, the neutral slot is basically occupied

[Nicole]

It is a good day to die.

Nicole

Try someone new.

I'm not a Mass Murderer! Please check your investigative pairings again.

deathworlds

[Hypersniper]

Can't lynch this dun dun dun dun dun dun dun can't lynch this dun dun dun dun dun stop hammer time

[Vantas]

Oh btw, I strongly suggest those active familar face don't vote me.

Let those who are new vote instead. It is a great chance to see their reaction to corrupted journalist.I highly doubt someone would actually seriously claim Corrupt Journalist in a situation like this. However I'm assuming you want us newer people to say how we'd react if someone seriously claimed Corrupt Journalist?

[Nicole]

I think louiswill is a Vigilante. He claimed Corrupt so that he will not be killed. He claimed Journalist so that he will not be witched.

I am a good player who contributes to day chat.

[Nicole]

I think Orpz is Homeless. He acted towny by attracting attention so that he will be killed tonight. He also tried to sacrifice himself as a lynch target so that PRs will get more accurate reads.

[Nicole]

Vinyl should be a Homeless too since she claimed Bodyguard. Or she might be an immune role.

As for the rest, I am not too sure yet. So please do post more!

[powerofdeath]

I highly doubt someone would actually seriously claim Corrupt Journalist in a situation like this. However I'm assuming you want us newer people to say how we'd react if someone seriously claimed Corrupt Journalist?

Louiswill claimed Corrupt Journalist once, got lynched on day 1

[Orpz]

Hypersniper

Out most of today for stuff n things

[xRavenx]

Louiswill might just be reaction testing right now with his claim. His post about letting the new players vote and seeing the reaction makes me think this even more. Also his play seems townlike to me. However, he could be trying to make us think that. If he really is Corrupted Journalist, we need to lynch him since he can't win with town and will try to deter us. His activity and contribution makes it even more necessary should he not be town. Once all the new people (I presume that means me, Vantas, and _Q2?) post about it, I'd think he would change his claim if he really is reaction testing. If not, I think we should lynch him.

[Orpz]

Louiswill is neither Town nor Corrupt Journalist

[Vantas]

Louiswill claimed Corrupt Journalist once, got lynched on day 1lmao what was his role?

[Vantas]

Louiswill is neither Town nor Corrupt JournalistSo you speculate he's still Neut/scum?

[Vantas]

As for the Corrupt Journalist reaction testing thing, they are an evil role after all so it seems like they should be high on the chopping block. The interview they give (might be interviewing themselves in the process) could lead to town confusion, so I'd say if no killing ENs show up during that time, I say that they should be that day's lynch. But if there's both a Corrupt Journalist revealed and a role that could fuck with town more revealed, I say we kill the role that could mess with town more. All the Journalist can do is make interviews, and we can always take those with a grain of salt. But, again, if no other leads present themselves as solid evidence, I say that the lynch for that day should be the Corrupted Journalist.

[louiswill]

Louiswill claimed Corrupt Journalist once, got lynched on day 1

I got lynched by the other 3 scums that game.

Nicole's contribution is great. I'd change train. Hypersniper

Hypersniper always lurk day 1 when he get scum role.

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[louiswill]

lmao what was his role?

I was CJ. That game ended day4 all criminal got lynched because they argue and blackmailed people who didn't vote me on day one.

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[Winter]

I don't think someone would just claim Corrupted Journalist right now. It's just not the time. louiswill

[louiswill]

I don't think someone would just claim Corrupted Journalist right now. It's just not the time. louiswill
Too short to be a convincing read.


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[powerofdeath]

I very good player! WTF!

[Slaol]

This day is still active?


I'm not a Mass Murderer! Please check your investigative pairings again.

deathworlds

Not claiming Mass Murderer? This post is very suspect.
Nicole

[Winter]

Too short to be a convincing read.


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I just think it's really early on to go and claim a role like that. I typically get suspicious of those that try to get people to vote for them, though. But that's just me.

[Vantas]

I very good player! WTF!umg no ur arent diediedie

@louiswill so you're suggesting pressuring people who are inactive to be more inactive? Or is it just Hypersniper in particular?

[Vantas]

I just think it's really early on to go and claim a role like that. I typically get suspicious of those that try to get people to vote for them, though. But that's just me.Wouldn't scum want to live and not get votes on them though?

And it seemed more like reaction testing to me, just curious, why do you think he's claiming for real here?

[Winter]

Wouldn't scum want to live and not get votes on them though?

And it seemed more like reaction testing to me, just curious, why do you think he's claiming for real here?

No, I don't think he's claiming for real. I agree with you on reaction testing, but I'm just suspicious.

Also, lurking could be an indicator of scum. It's no 100%, but it could be. The scum probably want to hide their roles, and lurking is a somewhat efficient way of doing that. It probably causes more trouble than good though, as it's against the rules. But who cares about the rules? xD Well, some of them at least o_e

[Nicole]

Nicole's contribution is great. I'd change train. Hypersniper

Hypersniper always lurk day 1 when he get scum role.

Said that he would unvote me. Said that Hypersniper is scum.
But never unvoted me. And never voted Hypersniper.

I suspect that he is acting scummy to avoid being night killed because he is an important town role.

louiswill

[louiswill]

umg no ur arent diediedie

@louiswill so you're suggesting pressuring people who are inactive to be more inactive? Or is it just Hypersniper in particular?

My early post says it all. If you still can't figure it then ask me again I will explain.

I'm the odd ball on this site.

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[louiswill]

Probably typo on smart phone. Let me try again. hypersniper

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[louiswill]

I can't see voting board on phone seems

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[xRavenx]

No, I don't think he's claiming for real. I agree with you on reaction testing, but I'm just suspicious.

Also, lurking could be an indicator of scum. It's no 100%, but it could be. The scum probably want to hide their roles, and lurking is a somewhat efficient way of doing that. It probably causes more trouble than good though, as it's against the rules. But who cares about the rules? xD Well, some of them at least o_e

If you think he's just reaction testing, why are you suspicious of him? Your argument against him is that scum wants to be voted (what?) and louiswill wanted to be voted (though it looked like he just wanted to see new people's reactions) so he's scum. Yet you still say you think his claim isn't serious and you think he's reaction testing. Your logic doesn't make sense.

Not all scum plays the same. You can't make blanket statements like that. And how exactly is lurking against the rules? The second half of your sentence makes no sense.

Winter

[xRavenx]

If you think he's just reaction testing, why are you suspicious of him? Your argument against him is that scum wants to be voted (what?) and louiswill wanted to be voted (though it looked like he just wanted to see new people's reactions) so he's scum. Yet you still say you think his claim isn't serious and you think he's reaction testing. Your logic doesn't make sense.

Not all scum plays the same. You can't make blanket statements like that. And how exactly is lurking against the rules? The second half of your sentence makes no sense.

Winter

Adding on to the second part, scum sometimes lurks, maybe even often, though it depends. Scum can also be very active and a day leader, normal activity, or just completely inactive. Saying only lurking is inaccurate.

[_Q2]

@Citrus: You're literally retarded. I said that lynching a Jester in the early game would be a lot better than in the endgame, so how the actual fuck does that make me neutral? Quit twisting my words and actually read what I said, please.

I wasn't the only one to vote for Orpz, and this was before Orpz retracted the Jester claim, which translates into you overreacting about game analysis. Voting for me because of a legitimate game analysis is ridiculous and anti-Town on its own.

Citrus
Inb4 everyone goes OMGUS and I get lynched.

[jaczac]

ugh, d1 lynches...




ewwww

[louiswill]

ugh, d1 lynches...




ewwww

Then Sheep my vote! :D :D :D :D :D :D

[jaczac]

wait, lemme see who doesnt have a vote yet...

[jaczac]

_Q2is the lucky winner!

[_Q2]

You're an idiot. lol

[jaczac]

Dude, ive already stated, i dont like d1 lynches. SO spread the love!

jaczac

[louiswill]

Dude, ive already stated, i dont like d1 lynches. SO spread the love!

jaczac

Day 1 lynch clearly favors town. Your attitude has a weak ground.

[xRavenx]

If we're going to lynch today, we'll have to agree on someone. The votes are all spread out right now.

[Winter]

Rules
No outside communication
No editing posts
No Links
No Invisable Ink
No Lurking

Also, lurking could be an indicator of scum. It's no 100%

And I agree with you, scum could be a day leader, or just inactive. I never did say that it couldn't.

[louiswill]

Usually host would give the player 48 day hours + 24 night hours + 48 day hours to make one post before introduce mod kill.

For me, it is too loose to be a rule.

[louiswill]

If we're going to lynch today, we'll have to agree on someone. The votes are all spread out right now.

That's right, sheep my vote!

[Hypersniper]

Hey I'm not lurking I have been out all day I only got back an hour ago

Personal I think Louis is trying to not get killed by claiming corrupt journalist
I think that jaz is homeless because of his half trolling attitude
Winter and Q2 I'm not sure about

Btw I have only been scum once and I never lurked then so your logic is flawed

[Vantas]

Day 1 lynch clearly favors town. Your attitude has a weak ground.How does it favor town? Personally for me, there's little to no evidence to go off of, and half of day one isn't serious anyway so for me day one lynches aren't that productive. Personally, I think it's better if we get a little bit of time running. I mean if someone incriminates themselves I see how, but other than that..

Gonna read up.

[louiswill]

How does it favor town? Personally for me, there's little to no evidence to go off of, and half of day one isn't serious anyway so for me day one lynches aren't that productive. Personally, I think it's better if we get a little bit of time running. I mean if someone incriminates themselves I see how, but other than that..

Gonna read up.

Day Lynch is controlled by responsible voters.
Town holds majority voters.
Town holds majority responsible voters.
Ignore every other factors.
Day lynch favors town.

The only risk of day lynch is that Mafia, the other minority faction is able to pull a critical lynch and title the scale of chance.

But in this game, there is no organized crime.

The liberty always favors town, until some idiotic politician with tremendous influence over lynch.

I haven't seen such a person in game yet.

[louiswill]

Hey I'm not lurking I have been out all day I only got back an hour ago

Personal I think Louis is trying to not get killed by claiming corrupt journalist
I think that jaz is homeless because of his half trolling attitude
Winter and Q2 I'm not sure about

Btw I have only been scum once and I never lurked then so your logic is flawed

So what? Of course it is flawed, but do you consider your reaction legit?

I say your reaction is flawed too!

Flawed Accusation Vs Flawed Reaction, who won?

[Citrus]

@Citrus: You're literally retarded. I said that lynching a Jester in the early game would be a lot better than in the endgame, so how the actual fuck does that make me neutral? Quit twisting my words and actually read what I said, please.

I wasn't the only one to vote for Orpz, and this was before Orpz retracted the Jester claim, which translates into you overreacting about game analysis. Voting for me because of a legitimate game analysis is ridiculous and anti-Town on its own.

Citrus
Inb4 everyone goes OMGUS and I get lynched.

Ooh a reaction!! *twirls mustache*

I don't care who else voted orpz, I care YOU did. I have no qualms with your content, but by the nature with which you posted it.

Vote seriousness++

[louiswill]

half trolling attitude => Homeless

Oh yea, then slaol is homeless, Orpz is homeless, you are homeless and I'm homeless, because we all "half-trolling"? Duh!

[louiswill]

Not Sure about,

almost no one here claims they are sure about anything else about others.

What kind of usefulness is that opinion.

[Hypersniper]

I mean he is trolling more then the rest if us

[louiswill]

He wants no lynch. What is your opinion of that being trolling?

[xRavenx]

Rules
No outside communication
No editing posts
No Links
No Invisable Ink
No Lurking

Also, lurking could be an indicator of scum. It's no 100%

And I agree with you, scum could be a day leader, or just inactive. I never did say that it couldn't.Lurking can't be a real rule unless you say "you must post x times every day".

Then why did you bring it up?


That's right, sheep my vote!Maybe if there's no one else.


Hey I'm not lurking I have been out all day I only got back an hour ago

Personal I think Louis is trying to not get killed by claiming corrupt journalist
I think that jaz is homeless because of his half trolling attitude
Winter and Q2 I'm not sure about

Btw I have only been scum once and I never lurked then so your logic is flawedOne example isn't accurate. You also don't compare your play when you're town. If you'd been scum five times and always were really active and lurked whenever you were town, then that would be different.

[Orpz]

@Citrus: You're literally retarded. I said that lynching a Jester in the early game would be a lot better than in the endgame, so how the actual fuck does that make me neutral? Quit twisting my words and actually read what I said, please.

I wasn't the only one to vote for Orpz, and this was before Orpz retracted the Jester claim, which translates into you overreacting about game analysis. Voting for me because of a legitimate game analysis is ridiculous and anti-Town on its own.

Citrus
Inb4 everyone goes OMGUS and I get lynched.

only scums didnt want to lynch me. relax ur town

[powerofdeath]

deathworlds

[_Q2]

@Citrus: Just because it is Day 1 doesn't mean you're not allowed to take it seriously; you obviously aren't seeing that.

[deathworlds]

I hope people voting me realize that I am the host...

[Slaol]

I hope people voting me realize that I am the host...

You're the host?

[Citrus]

Day is drawing to an end soon.

Louiswill

The last time he did this (claimed CJ), he was in fact the non-town Corrupt Journalist.

[Vantas]

Day Lynch is controlled by responsible voters.
Town holds majority voters.
Town holds majority responsible voters.
Ignore every other factors.
Day lynch favors town.

The only risk of day lynch is that Mafia, the other minority faction is able to pull a critical lynch and title the scale of chance.

But in this game, there is no organized crime.

The liberty always favors town, until some idiotic politician with tremendous influence over lynch.

I haven't seen such a person in game yet.Ehh I guess but I think there are a few factors you're missing here:
In order for there to be a responsible lynch, there needs to be sufficient evidence. What I'm mainly saying is that I don't believe enough sufficient evidence comes in just day one; we're too uninformed to make a good lynch.


I hope people voting me realize that I am the host...lmao yeah I'm pretty sure we know 8D

@_Q2 I've seen Citrus take day serious before, so I mean I think he gets that. Just he isn't..really..getting that this game.

[Vantas]

@louiswill do you retract your CJ claim?

I personally don't think that he'd claim a scum role and actually be it twice in a row; if anything I see him learning from the first time and not doing that again. Though maybe he's using a WIFOM mentality.

Maybe I'm overlooking this.

[Vantas]

@louiswill do you retract your CJ claim?

I personally don't think that he'd claim a scum role and actually be it twice in a row; if anything I see him learning from the first time and not doing that again. Though maybe he's using a WIFOM mentality.

Maybe I'm overthinking this.Typo; changed looking to thinking in "overthinking"

[louiswill]

I might retract when I'm put at L-1.

And, You don't really need sufficient evidence to lynch. You always lynch when the chance of winning events chain greater than 50%.

Always do it.

[louiswill]

I refused to lynch Poland in FM mafia because my calculation tell me the chance of winning is not clear, for town was in extremely bad shape, and both Scum KPN and Scum faction is unclear.

In a previous FM mafia Hunger game, I replaced Damus da Gravekeeper as A Scum mayor.

I force lynch everyday even if the target is obvious town to me, because I think the chance to win is over 50%.

That game I lost at the last round when I was ABSENT, other town member joint a bandit wagon and lost.

However, the chance was still 50%. I call that fair.

[louiswill]

For this game, every time you lynch you will gain READ from voters.

That make your future lynch more and more accurate.

The win rate for town is HIGH, only need a few of town members are serious enough to lead town.

Scums want to murder town leaders, but if town killed all scums before the option of town leaders run out, town is bonded to win!

That's also why I put USA as escort in my last will. I could have hided it but no longer necessary at that point.

Not surprising at all, town didn't even need discussion. They lynch and end day early everyday. The game automatically concluded.

That been said! You all should lynch someone if you are convinced.

[louiswill]

Just make sure the one is the one you WANT to lynch, not just "Oh I have to lynch so I lynched!", because you are not at pressure yet!

[Orpz]

goodbye louis

[louiswill]

All good decisions are determined by marginal benefit.

[louiswill]

All good decisions are determined by marginal benefit.

It is exactly reason why Orpz is good.

He played Soko last game with a super scum claim, but why would he do that,

it is because he saw the benefit behind, and by max self interesting,

witch likely wont manipulate him, scum won't kill him, town don't lynch him.

Those are uncertain, but the accuracy of the prediction falls in a range good enough for practical usage.

[Orpz]

All good decisions are determined by marginal benefit.

Tax too much and revenues lower

[Slaol]

I won't be back until the end of day (pretty sure). So I'll jump on the Louiswill thingymabober.

Louiswill

[Orpz]

Citrus

[Orpz]

Day is drawing to an end soon.

Louiswill

The last time he did this (claimed CJ), he was in fact the non-town Corrupt Journalist.

Attempting to justify a lynch by assuming every game is exactly the same.

[Citrus]

Attempting to justify a lynch by assuming every game is exactly the same.

He didn't retract last time. I could see him not retracting as CJ into his lynch again.

If I'm wrong I'll take my share of the blame.

[Citrus]

@Citrus: You're literally retarded. I said that lynching a Jester in the early game would be a lot better than in the endgame, so how the actual fuck does that make me neutral? Quit twisting my words and actually read what I said, please.

I wasn't the only one to vote for Orpz, and this was before Orpz retracted the Jester claim, which translates into you overreacting about game analysis. Voting for me because of a legitimate game analysis is ridiculous and anti-Town on its own.

Citrus
Inb4 everyone goes OMGUS and I get lynched.

@_Q2

Did you know I had a vote on Orpz when you voted Orpz or did you not know that?

[Orpz]

yup Citrus is definitely scum

[louiswill]

Attempting to justify a lynch by assuming every game is exactly the same.

Nope Nope Nope.

I already said that, this game is better than other ones because scums are not organized.

KPN would be 1-3, investigativeTPR 1-3

Lynch favors town.

[louiswill]

A pure math question:

One prize is behind one of three doors.

You choose one.

And then the host cross a door that doesn't have a prize behind.

Then you switch your choice.

What is your win rate?

There are 24 different combination and 12 of them make you lose.

But you would win at a rate of 2/3.

Guess, Why?

[louiswill]

It just tell you how strong "revealed" information will alter your chance of winning.

[Vantas]

Louiswill, you're making my head hurt.

I read you town.
Yet, you've claimed CJ.
In pretty much any other situation I would vote you in an instant due to a scum claim. However, I'm reading this as a massive reaction testing, which should help get "read" on the voters/non-voters, as you said.
In addition you say you might retract your claim L-1. L-1 would be an extremely easy time for scum to hop in and lock the train. Yet you're not afraid of that. To me that shows that you're willing to let your death help us find another scum. To me that's a massive town indicator.
So therefore, due to my strong belief that you're town despite your claim, I won't vote you.

I'm trying to make up my mind about Citrus at the moment. I feel that he was much more trolly than he needed to be, and the assumption crap seems scummy in itself, but I feel that his reply to Oprz's FOS was townlike.

Also I feel that _Q2 overreacted a bit to Citrus's FOS, though I can't be entirely sure.

Winter is new to the game, so I wouldn't be surprised if part of his play is just n00b syndrome like. Though I haven't taken a good look at him yet; I'll go do that.

@louiswill That's the Monty Hall problem, right?

[louiswill]

@Vanta That is the exactly monty hall problem.

People who gives read shows their effort, and from those effort, you want to get rid of people who do not contribute unless they have to be town.

So it becomes a exactly same crossing out game.

That is said,

If lynches are forced effectively,

Scums must compete with town to contribute more.

However, too much contribute will narrow their win chance.

That is, where would the rate be?

Welcome to the game!

[louiswill]

I personally don't like the 2/3 result, but I have yet come up a good counter logic.

So I guess I have to live with that.

[Citrus]

yup Citrus is definitely scum

D:

[deathworlds]

Day ends in 2 hours.

[Citrus]

In the event you're being serious + I read your play correctly, I'll gladly accept your apology tomorrow Orpz (or you know I do at least) :D

[Citrus]

More people need to type [vote]Louiswill[ /vote]

[xRavenx]

I'm not going to vote louiswill today. I'm getting a town read from him and I think the whole Corrupt Journalist thing is just a reaction test. I may vote him another day should incriminating evidence show up.

[jaczac]

[vote]louiswill[ /vote]

[Citrus]

I'm not going to vote louiswill today. I'm getting a town read from him and I think the whole Corrupt Journalist thing is just a reaction test. I may vote him another day should incriminating evidence show up.

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/23583-S-FM-117-Remember-My-Name

If you have a chance read through this please.

[Citrus]

[vote]louiswill[ /vote]

Ure close m8te

[louiswill]

In order to help people decide their position on my case,

People should vote based on the following claims:

Options listed according to solid/liquid of stance
1. Vote Louiswill/I bet he is CJ.
2. Dont vote Louiswill/I Think he is helping us.
3. Vote Louiswill/I think he is damaging us.
4. Don't vote Louiswill/I bet he is town.
5. Vote louiswill/ He is damaging ME.
6. Vote louiswill/Sheep
7. Don't vote louiswill/Sheep
8. Don't vote Louiswill/Non of my bussiness

Current voters and their stance:

louiswill (4 [L-3]):
Citrus, Vote Louiswill/I bet he is CJ.
Slaol, Vote louiswill/Sheep.
Nicole, Vote louiswill/ He is damaging ME.
Winter, I think he is damaging us.

[xRavenx]

I don't think a lynch on louiswill will happen (it's possible though) so it might be good to come up with another candidate. They probably wouldn't get lynched though.

[jaczac]

just to be clear, my last post was a joke

[louiswill]

I don't think a lynch on louiswill will happen (it's possible though) so it might be good to come up with another candidate. They probably wouldn't get lynched though.

xRavenx: Dont vote Louiswill/I Think he is helping us.

[Orpz]

Get Citrus instead.

His entire justification for causing a mislynch is "Louiswill pulled the same thing last game when he was scum". aka Citrus is scum

[xRavenx]

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/23583-S-FM-117-Remember-My-Name

If you have a chance read through this please.
The situation there was completely different. He waited to claim and it seems like he thought he could have won with town (I didn't read everything. I stopped at the bottom of the page he claimed at). Here he claimed right away and is posting like town. The only reasons the situations are similar is because he claimed Corrupt Journalist. He probably only claimed it here because he knew people would remember that game and he'd probably get lynched.

[xRavenx]

xRavenx: Dont vote Louiswill/I Think he is helping us.

4. Don't vote Louiswill/I bet he is town.

This too/mostly.

[louiswill]

I don't even need to mention that citrus was scum in that game, he just "happens" to win with town because town lynched all mafia before lynching him, oh yea he did try to save the last mafia hard.

[louiswill]

REMEMBER MEH NAME! EAT MY NAME!

The game was hosted by Orpz.

[_Q2]

The main thing I'm seeing with Citrus is that he seems to be paranoid about louiswill potentially being an actual Journalist, rather than a Corrupt Journalist. He is using the fact that louiswill claimed CJ (which could be some sort of cover to keep from people thinking he is a Journalist) and is trying to get him lynched for it. If louiswill is truly a CJ, then I'd probably advise him to give himself an article to write with some sort of code for him to solve, that way we can know for sure if he is CJ tomorrow or not. We can't waste the time on lynching him today with a perfectly good article that we can write, and Citrus doesn't seem to realize this, leading to the thoughts that Citrus is scum.

[xRavenx]

The main thing I'm seeing with Citrus is that he seems to be paranoid about louiswill potentially being an actual Journalist, rather than a Corrupt Journalist. He is using the fact that louiswill claimed CJ (which could be some sort of cover to keep from people thinking he is a Journalist) and is trying to get him lynched for it. If louiswill is truly a CJ, then I'd probably advise him to give himself an article to write with some sort of code for him to solve, that way we can know for sure if he is CJ tomorrow or not. We can't waste the time on lynching him today with a perfectly good article that we can write, and Citrus doesn't seem to realize this, leading to the thoughts that Citrus is scum.
You know Corrupt Journalist is evil, right? If he is corrupt, I doubt he'd do what we want to confirm him as scum.

[xRavenx]

Get Citrus instead.

His entire justification for causing a mislynch is "Louiswill pulled the same thing last game when he was scum". aka Citrus is scum

I can support this. Citrus

[_Q2]

Eh, I guess that would say something. I had actually just looked in the setup and seen that the neutrals have to see the Town lose, so I guess that's my own mistake. Oh well.

[louiswill]

4. Don't vote Louiswill/I bet he is town.

This too/mostly.

4. is not as strong as 2. I think he is helping us.

Because 4 is a guess, 2 is more intuitive and logic involved.

[Nicole]

I'm not going to vote louiswill today. I'm getting a town read from him and I think the whole Corrupt Journalist thing is just a reaction test. I may vote him another day should incriminating evidence show up.

What if there are no investigative roles? Or are you claiming one?

We must lynch louiswill before it's too late!

[Nicole]

Nicole, Vote louiswill/ He is damaging ME.

You are twisting my words!

I voted you because you are a liar who fake voted.

[louiswill]

You are twisting my words!

I voted you because you are a liar who fake voted.

Well, my vote is not on you and now who is the liar again?

I did put word in your mouth, but the fact that you voted me for personal excuse is not changing. Don't you agree?

[Nicole]

Well, my vote is not on you and now who is the liar again?

I did put word in your mouth, but the fact that you voted me for personal excuse is not changing. Don't you agree?

You changed your vote only after I called you out. Liar!

[louiswill]

We must lynch louiswill before it's too late!

So when would it be too late to lynch a Corrupted Journalist, who can not kill, but evil?

Before "Too l8r" is probably day 1 day 2 day 3 day 4 aaannnnnd day 5?

[louiswill]

You changed your vote only after I called you out. Liar!

The fact that I did change my vote, all promise were kept real, still holds.

[louiswill]

Let me tell you when would it be too late to kill a C.J.

It is when town KPN < scum KPN, and town is going to lose majority, and they haven't a clue of who is the killer, and number of Scum = number of town - 1 - promising scum KPN.

That is when it is too late.

The only thing I can be sure is that the day is not day 1, not day 2, otherwise the setup would not be approved.

[Nicole]

The fact that I did change my vote, all promise were kept real, still holds.

I caught you lying. Whatever you did after doesn't change the fact that you lied!


So when would it be too late to lynch a Corrupted Journalist, who can not kill, but evil?

Before "Too l8r" is probably day 1 day 2 day 3 day 4 aaannnnnd day 5?

You are trying to stall. If you are a Corrupted Journalist, lynching you is still better than having no lynch. You are basically saying that we should let a CJ live because we have yet to find neutral killers.

[Nicole]

Oh you want to talk about setup?

If 3 town die tonight then we can't lynch anymore tomorrow! 5 town versus 5 non-town!

Hidden Citizen of Detroit
Hidden Citizen of Detroit
Hidden Citizen of Detroit
Hidden Citizen of Detroit
Hidden Citizen of Detroit
Hidden Citizen of Detroit
Homeless
Homeless
Hidden True Neutral
Hidden Non-killing Criminal
Hidden Criminal
Hidden Killing Criminal
Assassin

[louiswill]

I caught you lying. Whatever you did after doesn't change the fact that you lied!



You are trying to stall. If you are a Corrupted Journalist, lynching you is still better than having no lynch. You are basically saying that we should let a CJ live because we have yet to find neutral killers.

It does change the fact. Any events has no consequences are the event should be ignored.

And Yes, it is a fair bet.

I revealed myself, eliminate one scum spot, and

if town manages to lynch all scums before me, I lose,

If town failed to do so with my artical and everything else, I win. Fair square.

All you need to find in this game is two neutral killers. Riiight.

Do you have no confident do so before I get my win? LOL

Then you really deserve to lose and I deserve my win.

[louiswill]

Oh you want to talk about setup?

If 3 town die tonight then we can't lynch anymore tomorrow! 5 town versus 5 non-town!

Hidden Citizen of Detroit
Hidden Citizen of Detroit
Hidden Citizen of Detroit
Hidden Citizen of Detroit
Hidden Citizen of Detroit
Hidden Citizen of Detroit
Homeless
Homeless
Hidden True Neutral
Hidden Non-killing Criminal
Hidden Criminal
Hidden Killing Criminal
Assassin

5 non town, 2 can not kill. one uncertain, and 2 can kill.

You think town is going to lose majority right way? Nope.

There is no 2nd faction bigger than town until town only have one man left!

Your "too late" concern is not even worthy to worry about.

[louiswill]

If you have indeed played enough mafia, then you know when it comes to broken backs Scums Vs Scums, every scum wants to buddy town and lynch the other scum.

It is just common sense, because scums don't win together.

[louiswill]

I gotta go, I guess I won't be here at L-1, but please consider me auto retract CJ claim at L-1.

[Nicole]

You are trying to whitewash your crimes! Lying is lying.

You are hoping to stall so that investigative roles will investigate you and find you innocent because you are an ASSASSIN!
You are pushing for non-town majority so that you can cooperate with scum and order them to kill your target!

Please lynch him quick!

[jaczac]

Night falls soon. Just. A heads up


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[xRavenx]

If louiswill doesn't retract his claim tomorrow I will probably consider him scum. He seems to be saying that he claimed today to get reads from who voted to lynch him. That would be because there was no night to go off of. Tomorrow there'll have been a night, so there's no reason for him to keep up his Corrupt Journalist claim. I think he's probably a Homeless. A tpr wouldn't sacrifice themself.

[Citrus]

The main thing I'm seeing with Citrus is that he seems to be paranoid about louiswill potentially being an actual Journalist, rather than a Corrupt Journalist. He is using the fact that louiswill claimed CJ (which could be some sort of cover to keep from people thinking he is a Journalist) and is trying to get him lynched for it. If louiswill is truly a CJ, then I'd probably advise him to give himself an article to write with some sort of code for him to solve, that way we can know for sure if he is CJ tomorrow or not. We can't waste the time on lynching him today with a perfectly good article that we can write, and Citrus doesn't seem to realize this, leading to the thoughts that Citrus is scum.

Why would he purposefully prove to everyone he's not town, if he's not town?

No, the main reason why I'd like to lynch Louiswill is because he did this exact situation in the other game. He was proud of it too - he was willing to lose the game to show how scum would try to lynch him D1 for town cred.

Pls read attached link

[Citrus]

The alternative is he was WIFOMing to see who would vote him, but I don't think that's true because:

1) Orpz did a similar thing already
2) Louiswill further locked us into a no lynch D1 with that

[deathworlds]

I just type [I][ /I] to reset votes right?

[deathworlds]

Night has fallen, the people of Detroit all decide to do whatever they usually do in detroit for the night.

No one was lynched

Night ends at https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=May+eleventh+6pm+PST



Night actions are due 2 hours before nights end.

[deathworlds]

The morning sun has risen in Detroit.



Vantas (Doctor) has died. (Mass Murderer) N1


_Q2 (Manufacturst) has died. (Mass Murderer) N1

Day ends at https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=May+12+6pm+PST


Player List:
Orpz
jaczac
PoD
Citrus
Nicole
Hypersniper (Replacement will be found if he does not contribute to daychat today)
Winter
Vinyl (Replacement will be found if he does not contribute to daychat today)
xRavenx
Slaol
louiswill

Sucky Person List:
Vantas (Doctor). (Mass Murderer) N1
_Q2 (Manufacturst). (Mass Murderer) N1

[Orpz]

MM visited me last night. I was attacked and healed.

[deathworlds]

With 11 people alive it will take

6

[Orpz]

Citrus

[Citrus]

Citrus

Why am I alive?

Nothing happened to me

[powerofdeath]

Hi

[powerofdeath]

Bye

[Citrus]

Hi

:D


Bye

D:

Does that mean you claim no feedback?

[powerofdeath]

:D



D:

Does that mean you claim no feedback?

Maybe

[Citrus]

xRavenx

[jaczac]

wait orpz where did you visit where all of you guys died/

[Orpz]

wait orpz where did you visit where all of you guys died/

MM (Citrus) visited my house, and apparently two others did too. I have no reason to reveal who I visited.

[Orpz]

But yeah, if you are Town, rally behind me and lynch Citrus.

[xRavenx]

Nothing happened to me.

Here are some reads I made during the night:
1. Orpz- I'm getting a town vibe from her. Her posts were kind of choppy, but they were helpful.
3.jaczac- He didn't do anything other than protest Day 1 lynches. Uncertain of him so far.
4.PoD- Claimed Survivor, though he could be something else.
5.Citrus- He's been anti-louiswill all day. His only justification is that in a past game louiswill claimed Corrupt Journalist and actually was. I explained below how that reasoning is flawed. (did louiswill's read first) Possible scum.
6.Nicole- She thought louiswill was town at first then changed her mind for some reason. I'm not sure what changed her mind. She made guesses of people's roles that didn't have much evidence to support them. Uncertain.
8.Hypersniper- Needs to post more.
9.Winter- Very passive. Doesn't seem to have any thoughts of his own and is just bandwagoning. Unsure if he's scummy or nooby.
10.Vinyl- Just trolled in the first couple hours of the day then disappeared and never came back. I doubt his claim is legit.
11.xRavenx- me
12.Slaol- Did nothing but bandwagon and troll a bit.
13.louiswill- As I've made pretty clear in the day chat, I believe louiswill is town. The fact that he claimed Corrupt Journalist and was one in another game holds no weight. His play was different as was his reason for doing so. He seemed to think he could win with town then. I doubt if he really was Corrupt Journalist he would do the same thing. He could be wifoming the shit out of us, but probably not. His entire play yesterday screamed reaction testing to me, and I believe he is a Homeless. A tpr wouldn't sacrifice himself like that.

[xRavenx]

xRavenx

Care to explain?

[Orpz]

PoD is Survivor

[xRavenx]

Citrus

Already explained.

[Orpz]

Thank you. PoD, please sheep my vote.

[Citrus]

Nothing happened to me.

Here are some reads I made during the night:
1. Orpz- I'm getting a town vibe from her. Her posts were kind of choppy, but they were helpful.
3.jaczac- He didn't do anything other than protest Day 1 lynches. Uncertain of him so far.
4.PoD- Claimed Survivor, though he could be something else.
5.Citrus- He's been anti-louiswill all day. His only justification is that in a past game louiswill claimed Corrupt Journalist and actually was. I explained below how that reasoning is flawed. (did louiswill's read first) Possible scum.
6.Nicole- She thought louiswill was town at first then changed her mind for some reason. I'm not sure what changed her mind. She made guesses of people's roles that didn't have much evidence to support them. Uncertain.
8.Hypersniper- Needs to post more.
9.Winter- Very passive. Doesn't seem to have any thoughts of his own and is just bandwagoning. Unsure if he's scummy or nooby.
10.Vinyl- Just trolled in the first couple hours of the day then disappeared and never came back. I doubt his claim is legit.
11.xRavenx- me
12.Slaol- Did nothing but bandwagon and troll a bit.
13.louiswill- As I've made pretty clear in the day chat, I believe louiswill is town. The fact that he claimed Corrupt Journalist and was one in another game holds no weight. His play was different as was his reason for doing so. He seemed to think he could win with town then. I doubt if he really was Corrupt Journalist he would do the same thing. He could be wifoming the shit out of us, but probably not. His entire play yesterday screamed reaction testing to me, and I believe he is a Homeless. A tpr wouldn't sacrifice himself like that.

I like this


Care to explain?

RVS, because Day 1 was fairly unproductive


MM (Citrus) visited my house, and apparently two others did too. I have no reason to reveal who I visited.

Nope, nice lie though.

A) I visited no one and did nothing. I'm homeless
B) Mass murderer could not have attacked you if you visited someone. Nice lie though

[Citrus]

xRavenx

[Citrus]

Winter

[powerofdeath]

Nothing happened to me.

Here are some reads I made during the night:
1. Orpz- I'm getting a town vibe from her. Her posts were kind of choppy, but they were helpful.
3.jaczac- He didn't do anything other than protest Day 1 lynches. Uncertain of him so far.
4.PoD- Claimed Survivor, though he could be something else.
5.Citrus- He's been anti-louiswill all day. His only justification is that in a past game louiswill claimed Corrupt Journalist and actually was. I explained below how that reasoning is flawed. (did louiswill's read first) Possible scum.
6.Nicole- She thought louiswill was town at first then changed her mind for some reason. I'm not sure what changed her mind. She made guesses of people's roles that didn't have much evidence to support them. Uncertain.
8.Hypersniper- Needs to post more.
9.Winter- Very passive. Doesn't seem to have any thoughts of his own and is just bandwagoning. Unsure if he's scummy or nooby.
10.Vinyl- Just trolled in the first couple hours of the day then disappeared and never came back. I doubt his claim is legit.
11.xRavenx- me
12.Slaol- Did nothing but bandwagon and troll a bit.
13.louiswill- As I've made pretty clear in the day chat, I believe louiswill is town. The fact that he claimed Corrupt Journalist and was one in another game holds no weight. His play was different as was his reason for doing so. He seemed to think he could win with town then. I doubt if he really was Corrupt Journalist he would do the same thing. He could be wifoming the shit out of us, but probably not. His entire play yesterday screamed reaction testing to me, and I believe he is a Homeless. A tpr wouldn't sacrifice himself like that.

LOL, Orpz is an asian dude...

[powerofdeath]

Winter

WINTER IS MY FWIEND!

Citrus

[Orpz]

LOL, Orpz is an asian dude...

wut

[xRavenx]

Does Mass Murderer kill the person they target?

[xRavenx]

There could be a SK that targeted Orpz and used their autovest.

[powerofdeath]

Does Mass Murderer kill the person they target?

Mass Murderer visit someone's home. Anyone who visit that person will die. If that person does not visit anyone, he will die.

[deathworlds]

Does Mass Murderer kill the person they target?

The Mass Murderer will kill/attack if they took no action.

[Citrus]

Does Mass Murderer kill the person they target?

Role card is in setup:

Make like sandy hook and murder a bunch of innocence (R.I.P)
Each night, you may target someone, killing everyone that targets that person.
Not doing an action counts as targeting yourself
You have 1 auto-vest
1 night between sprees (more then 1 death counts as a spree)

It's like this for sc2mafia mass murderer as well.

Orpz effectively claimed no action by claiming he was the MM target. He needs to retract which statement was a lie (attacked or night action)
It's very believable 3 players targeted him, the only other player that would be likely to happen to is Louis, which he can come in and give his opinion

[Orpz]

Oh yeah huh, I don't get attacked by an MM if I move...so TWO people wanted me dead last night.

Citrus's direct avoidance of the votes cast upon him confirms him as scum. Barring liberating night actions, he should be the lynch today, the rest of us should discuss who to lynch tomorrow.

[Citrus]

Oh yeah huh, I don't get attacked by an MM if I move...so TWO people wanted me dead last night.

Citrus's direct avoidance of the votes cast upon him confirms him as scum. Barring liberating night actions, he should be the lynch today, the rest of us should discuss who to lynch tomorrow.

Avoidance? I claimed

I thought you were the vigilante and were going to shoot me, but evidently not

[Citrus]

That means Hidden Criminal is also a killer

wait

Orpz if you were attacked twice you would have died...

[Citrus]

Doctor:
You can select one person every night to prevent them from one attack. +1

Stop lying

[Orpz]

I was only attacked once.

Repeat your claim, I've missed it. And no I'm not a Vig, although I wish I was

[Orpz]

Nvm, found it

don't believe it

[Nicole]

LOL no last will. Town is bad!

But good job Doctor. I don't think Citrus is scum.

louiswill

[Orpz]

LOL no last will. Town is bad!

But good job Doctor. I don't think Citrus is scum.

louiswill

Why not? Which post stood out as Town to you?

[Nicole]

Eh but there is a train on Citrus...

Citrus

[louiswill]

ello I'm here. who have claimed homeless so far? Citrus? only him?

[powerofdeath]

ello I'm here. who have claimed homeless so far? Citrus? only him?

Citrus got caught redhanded. Citrus is mass murderer.

[louiswill]

Citrus got caught redhanded. Citrus is mass murderer.

whelp I guess that is fair enough.

Citrus

I'm actually investigator.

I checked one person among Slaol/Hypersniper/Vinyl

says the guy is
Serial Killer/Vigilante/Bodyguard

that is a correct amount of wifom for me today, I was not attacked.

[Citrus]

I'm not a mass murder and I didn't go anywhere last night

But you can lynch me if you don't believe me. Judge me for my lack of employment I guess. I don't really have any idea who it is and my wagon may be useful beyond the grave

[Citrus]

Citrus got caught redhanded. Citrus is mass murderer.

</3 Survivor

No, Orpz just claims I am. Which isn't possible from his perspective, but either way I'm not who you're looking for.

[Nicole]

What if... FOUR people visited Orpz?

I told you louiswill is a lying scum. See he is lying again.

[louiswill]

</3 Survivor

No, Orpz just claims I am. Which isn't possible from his perspective, but either way I'm not who you're looking for.

well, I voted you because I don't want to die.

_Q2 (Manufacturst). (Mass Murderer) N1 gave Pod a gun.

I also detected a possible vigilante.

That means if I don't jump on the wagon, it would be me who is shot tonight by some town killers.

[louiswill]

What if... FOUR people visited Orpz?

I told you louiswill is a lying scum. See he is lying again.

Then prove me wrong.

You just can't.

The real vigilant/bodyguard/sk would be the one knows the best.

And you are not one of them.

[Orpz]

The zerg rush is real

[Orpz]

Vinyl is Town, Winter is scum, Hypersniper is Assassin.

[xRavenx]

If Orpz is telling the truth, he was targeted by Doctor, SK, MM, and whatever _Q2 was (can't remember what it was called) and has a night action that he used last night. It's kind of a lot to happen to one person. Although it doesn't make sense for him to blatantly lie about that, and he'll probably die tonight anyway.

Citrus L2 is a bit close. We don't want day ending early.

[Nicole]

Please shoot louiswill tonight. He is scum spreading misinformation.

[louiswill]

The zerg rush is real

It is not, you know why?

Someone got an ITEM.

If the guy is town, he will report in and lynch Pod.

That means unless Pod is a dumbass jerk, he wouldn't lie about that mass murderer went to his house.

So Pod speaks truth, lets lynch Citrus and get it over with.

[Nicole]

Then lynch louiswill today

louiswill

[xRavenx]

Vinyl is Town, Winter is scum, Hypersniper is Assassin.
How do you know?

[Citrus]

If Orpz is telling the truth, he was targeted by Doctor, SK, MM, and whatever _Q2 was (can't remember what it was called) and has a night action that he used last night. It's kind of a lot to happen to one person. Although it doesn't make sense for him to blatantly lie about that, and he'll probably die tonight anyway.

Citrus L2 is a bit close. We don't want day ending early.

Not necessarily. Someone claimed bodyguard earlier


Then lynch louiswill today

louiswill

Whoever got the item was targeted by the mass murderer. Hence why _Q2 is dead AND doctor is dead

[Orpz]

Post analysis, although their reactions to today will be more revealing than Day 1 banter.

Citrus

L-2 is fine

[Orpz]

yfw I didn't get an item because _Q2 died before he could give it to me.