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April 29th, 2014, 06:00 PM
FM XXI: Day 8

FM Brazil was found dead this morning.
His role was Journalist.

FM Brazil left a last will:
TL;DR
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About
Last will and lynch of Argentina:
Mafia already know who is SK.

Their suggestion toward SK is about
1. Make sure no friendly fire between SK and Mafia
2. Gain + KPN
3. If true then it basically mean the last few mafia are medium active.

So based on activity(Quality of posts):
Most: USA, Cyprus, Mexico, Iran
Medium: Arabia, Japan, Kenya, Costa Rica, Germany
Low: Thailand,
Lower: India, Switzerland

A word to the wise serial Killer:

Sk have no idea who the last mafia is.
Once cooperate with Mafia, sk is at a lower ground:

Look this table of mafia's action if pressed: (mafia action)/(SK action)

Table of prisoner SK(Press) SK(hide)

Mafia(choose to out SK) OutSK/Gambit OutSK/Gambit

Mafia(choose to hide SK) Gambit/Gambit Gambit/Gambit


It means out sk is the dominate strategy for Mafia, despite what SK would do.
On the other side, all strategy to SK is indifferent.

And for SK once pressed, the only way out is to gambit

I hope the SK watch out what he is dealing with. There is no long term partnership with mafia.

Especially they know who you are while you don't know their number and roles.

However, you must notice if someone purposely protecting you. Those are the ones you want to think about.
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FM Brazil is replaced in night 3.
The last will is written by FM Brazil.
Credibility: FML
Value: Infinite Useless
Code: X doesn't matter. It was about Chinese reminder theorem.
FM Brazil is a twitching nutty Chinese bastard.


Warning: Lynch a neutral doesn't get you ANY town credit in my analysis

Action:
(Until day 7, all interviewed targets are alive. That is : Free Fullretard Passport is created)
Day 1: Arabia*** - No Response
Day 2: Cyprus
Day 3: Mexico
Day 4: Spain - No Response
Day 5: Switzerland
Day 6: USA
Day 7: Arabia - agian


----Night 3---
Don't like Norway anyway.

The previous Brazil is probably frustrated.

----Day 4----
Italy trusted Poland.

Italy died.

There is a drug dealer, who used to drug people with "attacked & healed"/"witched" to discredit them.

It is possible that Poland was drugged, so I lied healing him to shield him as much.

--------Night 4--------
"Targets are notified if they are successfully poisoned."

Bye Egypt.

Egypt lied about didn't check greenland. He did check greenland.

Why lie?

It gives him more space to accuse people.

And you fucktards wants all liars to pay the price?

Aint all liars are evil.

So some people is secretly discredit your townies. DO NOT FALL IN THAT SHIT TRAP.

I highly doubt there is a mason, but I just ride the tide and use masons to shield people I like.


----------Night 5-------------
Poland is non-mafia, as I guessed.

So he may guessed out few mafias from witch reporting and such.

Germany claimed a role to protect himself.

------Night 6------
Fuck, don't want toxicology to die but Sweden you are such a loser.

USA didn't check me. I bluffed.

USA said this in day 5:"Why isn't Brazil dead? He is a fucking doctor"

USA went to Germany Night 5.

---Day 7----

Ireland is dead. I guess killer is trying to hunt down the Journalist. My time is short.

I have been suspecting USA. --- Yes I put him in town council but he is not on my town list.

Today, the interview and early log in of USA indicate a gambit is under going.

I'm the one who can either derail the train or let it go.

Argentina tried to push me days ago. Failed.

For my high pressure policy, I'd let the train go as fast. .. a little too fast if you ask me.

But what if USA is testing me instead? He bluffed knowing who is journalist.

However think about it,

If USA is mafia, this gambit is a declaration of victory. It is way to risky.

Then there is one way to know it, as the journalist.

First I claim replacement to shield USA from predicting my intention.

Then I claim escort so that USA doesn't have to face testimony.

By That I can Hijack two strong cards from his hand and put in my own hand.

Since USA is not on a concrete ground, then I can 'derail' the train to see his reaction.

Then if USA haste to hammer, I could either play along.

Then I claim the interview are truthful to see if USA did wrote a true interview.

USA did not. Apparently he did not block Argentina the night before.

Then based on log in, I deduce germany is blocked.

Surprisingly, USA likely blocked Switzerland. That means he is a town.

Therefore, I do not have to expose myself.

If killers come after me, I buy USA at least a night to block the killer.

At this point of game, escort is more important.

At the same time, Argentina must be laughting if he read my journal.

Good death! Great Drama! Much plot!


***********Claim: USA is a TOWN, Prove*********
Assumption: If there are only 2-3 mafias left, it is still too early to pull a 1-1 gambit.
Then inductively,
If USA is mafia, he will not pull a gambit with huge risk.

1.4 people are involved in the USA gambit, Kenya, the Journalist, Germany and Argentina.

Each of us has the power to pull a dead "friendly" fire upon USA.

USA must be able to pull this gambit with 100% confident that there are at least 3 town among us 4 people.

And USA think Argentina is the (only)Mafia, if the artical said all truth.

2.USA retract his claim. Though gambitting, USA retract his detective claim also bears huge risk.

Argentina is right that USA is not detective, but for USA's part, it is much easier stick with the det claim to the end.

3.Dilemma of quick Hammer.

Facing a gambit, USA might not want to wait more accident.

With me, he could have easily hammered Argentina at L-2, but he chooses to wait.

Note I'm not possessed. It is high risk to wait a ghost comes to claim wrong RB information.

Conclusion: USA isn't pulling a dumb play, it was great. USA is likely town.






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The key people who know something/Mafia/Night Action/Feedback:
Poland
Saudi Arabia
Spain
Russia
Costa Rica
Argentina

Suggestive strong Town credit:
Cyprus
Southkorea
Egypt
Libya
Japan
Colombia
Mexico
Ireland

Smart people, better watch out if betray:
Japan
Cyprus
Arabia


Suggestion of Lynch/Pressure: Costa Rica/Spain/Arabia

Costa Rica lied. It is now proven.

If Sweden flipped Mafia then CostaRica is clean.

But sweden flip Toxicologist.

Costa Rica can still be mafia.

His defense is now Broken.

The rule is: YoLo - You only lie once.
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Spain

1. Didn't response to interview
2. the original accusor of germany
3. let germany go too easy to be true
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Arabia

He Managed to miss key voting.

His isolation is also a good strategy to immune my relationship analysis.

But this play is bad for mafia.

Basically, if Arabia is mafia, he is playing for town's favor.

Until he doesn't show up, doesn't vote
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If libya was killed by mafia, then Libya died only because he consistently accusing Costa Rica.

If Costa Rica is a mafia, then who give Costa Rica Town vibe with no support by Day 3 are likely scums.
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Suggestion of Stradegy change: Town Fags

Sitting on wrong train is FINE.
Give your reason and stop hide like a fag.
If you are a bad or newbie player, face it.
No one will blame you.

But if you are a genius and find there are already too god damn many is playing hide and seek already, don't join that mud and make things WORSE.

USE MY TOWN COUNCIL!
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Key Post worth reading again again and again:
China Day 2 #233
GreenLand Day 2 #304
Colombia Day 2#309
Iran Day 2 #308
Italy Day 3 #67 ******
South Korea Day 3 #72 ***
Russia Day 3 #373
England #381
Libya Day 3 #473
Colombia Day 4 #40
Libya Day 4 #72
Brazil Day 4 #262
Brazil Day 6 All-Day-Long
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Possible Bonds and Disbond:
USA - Colombia
Mexico - Iran
USA X Kenya
USA X Sweden
Spain X Germany


The least want-to-see Mafia Team:
You really do not want the mafia team to be like those, so watch out.


Possible Team 1: USA(Witch) Germany(Lawyer/Tailor) (???)

Possible Team 2: Arabia(Lawyer/Tailor), Argentina(Drug Dealer), (???)

Serial Killer: Spain/Costa Rica(???)


Extra Information:

Some dead people are deleted.
It is not easy to understand but you know a fact:
Members of Organized crime will not act in one line, unless the victory is nailed.
If one person with high frequency in list below flip mafia, the other high frequency ones are likely clean.
Assume Ghost and Vent will keep previous owner's style.

Lurk/Hint:
Iran (Day 2)
India (Day 2)(day 3)(day 4)(day 5)(day 6)
Spain (Day 2)

Medium Troll/sheeple/Useless arguements:
Mexico (Day 1)
USA (Day 2)
German (Day 1) (Day 2)
Thailand (Day 1)

Marginal attachment(Some discussion, some vote, no solid):
Japan (Day 1)(Day 2)(Day 4)(Day 5)(Day 6)
German (Day 3)(Day 4)

Content/Clear sight(Not major target but made discussion):
Saudi Arabia (Day 1)(Day 3)(Day 4)
Argentina(****)
Japan (Day 3)(Day 4)(Day 5)(Day 6)
Colombia (Day 3)
Mexico (Day 3)(Day 4)
Kenya (Day 4)
Iran (Day 3)
Cyprus (Day 6)

Living/Director(Come with a clear goal and will):
Cyprus (Day 2)(Interview)(Day 4)(Day 5)
England(****)
Egypt (****)
Iran (Day 5)
Kenya (Day 5)
USA (Day 6)

Swing/tumble (be attacked but dodged by various strategy):
Norway (Day 1)
Cyprus (Day 1)
Spain (Day 1)
Kenya (Day 2)(Day 3)(Day 6)***Note Kenya is really good at dodge accusasion

Clear Cut Defend (Single Irreversible Claim):
Costa Rica (Day 4)
Germany (Day 5)
Kenya (Day 6)
USA (Day 6)
Argentina (Day 7)

tunnle:
Green Land(****)
Argentina (****)
Switzerland (Day 2)
Spain (Day 4)
Kenya (Day 5)
Iran (Day 4)(Day 6)


A news article was published:
Hey, thanks for visiting me Journalist. I had a feeling I was going to get visited eventually, but I digress. From the patterns from what you’ve been visiting, I think you’re town Journalist so I feel comfortable revealing here. I’m Italy’s Student, I’m sorry I can’t really help with info or anything. We didn’t talk that much in night chat to be honest, he wasn’t the most active. But he did say a few things. Main suspicion at the time was that he was really skeptical on how Costa Rica lead that mislynch.

Code: AICLQAKPWWT.

Anyway, onto day speculation and such. It’s frustrating because there isn't any town leader that we know for sure is town. Whoever killed Colombia knew what they were doing.? Also, I’m surprised that India nor Switzerland posted yesterday and they didn't get modkilled.

Brazil’s confirmed non-mafian at least. Considering that Argentina basically claimed mafian in his LW (of course unless mafia has an architect which they’re using to communicate and tell the EN otherwise. But honestly how many more mafians can we expect to have.) and that Argentina said for the SK to kill him. If he shows up unkilled today then I’d bet that one of the people roleblocked are as such. Escort, you know who you are, I say claim if someone you blocked doesn't claim as such in this event and we have a pretty much guaranteed SK kill. I can’t figure out who “restipulation” is, though considering from what Argentina said it might be a less active town.

Reads:
FM Brazil - While I see Colombia’s points from his LW, and I agree with them, I think he’s been acting quite a bit more town as of late to make up for it. And also the fact that Argentina cleared up for us that Brazil’s not mafian.
FM Costa Rica - I don’t like how she decided to fake claim Sheriff then run with it. I know she did it originally as a troll, but still. They also seem pretty focused on their own agenda rather than the collective one, which is a bit concerning. I’m curious to why he’s suspicious of Cyprus though. Please answer this Costa Rica. She also seemed a little robotic to me, though I get a feeling she's town, that mafia wouldn't do risky moves like that. Might just be me though. Overall, I can't get a good read on her.
FM Cyprus - I read him town overall. I feel like he tries to actively contribute when he can and he doesn’t really try to make a fool out of day. Which I appreciate.
FM Germany - I’ve been really iffy on Germany for a while. I was dead certain he was mafian for a little bit, then my attention got focused elsewhere. But I’m not sure on his BP claim. Nor do I like he literally just jumped in to lock the lynch. I feel like we need to utilize day as much as possible, and letting half of it just go like that isn’t something I’m for. Also, the Nazi trolling. Gah that’s annoying and distracting. Overall read is I think he's scum.
FM India - Inactive, and when he is, all he does is troll. . He’s on my list of “wtf you’re inactive” along with Switzerland. Hard to make a read due to that reason, but if I can glean any role from it it's probably mafian or something.
FM Iran - Town. He seems like the most leaderlike guy at the moment, and he seems logically sound.
FM Japan - It seems like to me Japan would be one of those guys who would make a scum slip if he was scum. He has stepped it up though, so I’d say town all things considered.
FM Kenya - I probably buy the BP claim from him more than Germany, and I get the reason he disliked the idea of a Poland lynch there at the end. Also the fact that Argentina, who’s mafia, pit himself against Kenya makes me think differently from the rest about Kenya. Though it’s hard to ignore how he handled the lynching of Poland on the next day and how he wanted to lynch Japan seemed a bit scummy if you ask me. So I’m torn on him to be honest. I see both sides here.
FM Mexico - I’d say he’s been lurking now adays, and I don’t really remember him contributing much. Regardless, I’m getting a towny feel from him.
FM Saudi Arabia - Overall he seems pretty town like to me. Kind of inactive lurky, but I feel like he contributes when he’s active.
FM Spain - Similar to Arabia, though I feel like he’s a little robotic at times.
FM Switzerland - “wtf you’re inactive”. I feel like he’s never really taken a stand that much, so I see him as potential scum.
FM Thailand - If he’s lying about the RBs, then I’m assuming anti-town. Otherwise we have another role blocker somewhere in the mix. But he trolls all day. And does nothing. He’s just really annoying to me.
FM USA – He’s seemed to up his play as of late and not afraid to take a stand. I’m going with town.



Roles List:

Living Players:

Graveyard:


Ragnar Lodbrok (Hidden Norseman)
Hidden Norseman
Hidden Norseman
Hidden Norseman
King Aelle (Hidden Anglo-Saxon)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Non-Town
Hidden Non-Town
Hidden Non-Town
Hidden Non-Town
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any


FM Costa Rica
FM Cyprus
FM Germany
FM India
FM Iran
FM Japan
FM Kenya
FM Mexico
FM Saudi Arabia
FM Spain
FM Switzerland
FM Thailand
FM USA

FM Australia - Consigliere - Died Night 1
FM Pakistan - Detective - Died Night 1
FM Greenland - Beguiler - Sacrificed Day 2
FM China - Doctor - Died Night 2
FM New Zealand - Ghost - Died Night 2
FM Norway - Blacksmith - Sacrificed Day 3
FM England - Consort - Died Day 3
FM Canada - Ninja - Died Night 3
FM South Korea - Vigilante - Died Night 3
FM Italy - Mayor (King Aelle) - Died Night 3
FM France - Citizen - Died Night 3
FM Egypt - Sheriff - Died Day 4
FM Libya - Mason - Died Night 4
FM Poland - Witch - Sacrificed Day 5
FM Fiji - Citizen - Mod killed Day 5
FM Colombia - Citizen - Died Night 5
FM Russia - Mason - Died Night 5
FM Sweden - Toxicologist - Sacrificed Day 6
FM Ireland - Citizen - Died Night 6
FM Argentina - Disguiser (Ragnar Lodbrok) - Sacrificed Day 7
FM Brazil - Journalist - Died Night 7




Last Wills:

You think you are all safe, but alas, the Vikings have arrived. All hail the arrival of the noble savages!

We shall plunder your towns and take thy women.

But enough RPing. May the town be as barren as my icy lands. Get ready to burn.

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Wonderful job Egypt. Spot on work there. I hope it was worth it

Evil Neutrals! Proclamation for ya. We can win with everyone except the dirty town and meddling cult. So we want to win with you if we can. Don't waste your night actions on Egypt. Trust us, we know what we're doing and you can consider that problem sorted.

Cult, if we don't win you guys need to. Here's a head start, you've got some confirmed masons running amuck. Don't let them get away with it. Check out FMXX, it's better to coordinate until the town is put down.

We have decided to not claim feedback relevant to you if we get it to signal to you that we're with you. Ex: doused, we won't claim it, and you know we're on your side.

To my fuck buddies:

sorry troops I'm outta here, but use logic (especially concerning bouncy) and you know what to do.

blackmailer sticking around before not sticking around is a good idea per what I said in night chat

don't get fooled by an anteater, it's hella bad if we do. let george/unmarshalled/etc. deal with it

try to figure out who smoke is and coordinate if possible

duke needs to be eliminated asap, along with replumed, argo, biarticulate, and knap - if these players are who I think they are these are extremely high priority all else held equal

oceanic, castilla should work more together. fraud, demobbing, and misdating are in a good place right now

use appetizer to your advantage, especially as it ties in to the proclamation

greenwood should get a greenlight soon, use it

tossing out picks is useful for drafting later

corvus might be more likely than reforgeable

All non-town, even if we don't individually win, we do at some level if we fuck the town. Let the reign of scum continue from FM XX!

Peace out bitches. I'll enjoy my popcorn from the sidelines.

I'm doctor

n1: no action, didnt heal in that clusterfuck
n2: egypt

IMPORTANT: HEALING DOES STOP CULT CONVERT I HAVE ASKED THIS BUT IT DOES NOT DO +1

final read list:

plz note that if i say if they are unaligned that they are not town to me but are unlikely to be aligned with Greenland the the rest of the mafia

FM Argentina: gut town

FM Brazil: gut scum

FM Canada: gut scum

FM China: dead doc

FM Colombia: we will know soon enough, something is irking though

FM Costa Rica: havent seen

FM Cyprus: after further revew, i am actualy leaning scum

FM Egypt: sheriff

FM England: gut town

FM Fiji: unaligned with greenland

FM France: replaced in....

FM Germany: haven seen much

FM India: lurker galore

FM Iran: guts say hes pr, tonw or not is to be decided

FM Ireland: gut town

FM Italy: mafia scum, post 26 and 55, if he flips scum it would confirm a DDer

FM Japan: student most likely

FM Kenya: seriously if this guy is town in any form, he does truly suck

FM Libya: mason claim

FM Mexico: I'm pegging him scum, he seems too "IDGAF" to be town and is playing the apathetic card

FM New Zealand: guts say scum

FM Norway: ?

FM Poland: I'm gonna rule him netural, but not evil

FM Russia: not a mafia scum if Italy flips mafia

FM Saudi Arabia: I'm going to give her town

FM South Korea: Scum/neutral based off how day 2 went and interactions with greenland, mafia, most likely

FM Spain: i am going to say unaligned with greenland

FM Sweden: ?

FM Switzerland: guts would say neutral

FM Thailand : ?

FM USA: gut neutral

Ugh looks like that poison was real. Yay. I'm town Operator which is why I was so certain Greenland was scum yesterday. I acted like I couldn't be roleblocked ("someone tried to roleblock me") so that I wouldn't get roleblocked again. I targetted Colombia and Saudi hoping that Saudi would shoot himself as a result.

As for reads... Mexico is probably scum, Canada/Saudi/Argentina etc are scum. My reads haven't really changed since my giants reads lists was back in the first half of D3. Poland is probably legit though and I'm less confident in my Egypt townread. There's probably scum in the lurkers.
Of course I get rbed N1 and the one guy I target is a Doctor -which could have potentially been quite useful to either side-.

Getting Ninja was a blessing. Should have paid a bit more attention to day chat to possibly have prevented myself from dying. Oh well.
Speciar code 1: r
Speciar code 2: Real Exempt Noel Maroon Tilapia
(Except for the word Real, there are no L's; Maroon Tirapia = Red Herring)
Speciar code 3: South East Asia


n1 FM Austraria
n2 FM New Zearand
n3 FM Canada

I don't regret defendering Greenrand cause friction = more post anarysis. Jk I do because I brew my shot at MVP. Rooting for FM Corombia

Shot Austraria for braming real rife, Shot New Zearand for being the king of active rurkers and being super ambivarent about votes. A real Town wourd cast his votes much ress roboticarry. Arso, Day 1 Post #206. I understand that shooting India wourd probabry prove my rore better. I'm arso uncomfortabre at how both of my targets are Oceania.

Shot Canada. Fuck the British territories.

ENGRAND IS MOST DEFINITERY CONSORT. Isn't it too convenient that he received a suit and poisoned on the same day? And he craimed rorebrocked on D2? And he never craimed Operator? And he active rurked? And his rast wirr was ass?

RIP Norway you rittle bitch, but it was you or me.

I had unrimited charges.

If I'm not a vigirante in the graveyard I've been tairored


"I onry regret that I have but one rife to give for my country" - Nathan Hare, South Korean Patriot
I have nothing to say that I haven't already said except to reveal my code, maybe it will clue you on my real role. Good luck in your scum hunting!

Message: By my blood and by my death, I curse you all! As I die, so shall you all!
Key: Shadows of Darkness
To My Dearest of Comrades,

So I was actually ghosted on Day 5, which was really frustrating, considering the circumstances that the Ghost used to exploit how I played to be a detriment to the Town. Oh well, I guess what's done is done. I was a Citizen as I claimed.

One thing I want to bring up in my last will right now is the conversation between Brazil and Argentina at the end of the day. I picked up on this after reading the day over on my normal account, and I noticed this string of comments that really struck a wrong note with me.


I assume you are not the same Colombia.

Right. That's why I think it could be a ghost who try to get things done today, but fearing if Germany actually flip mafia.
First off, there are two things wrong with this. First off, he already said I probably wasn't the same person in the first quote, meaning that the theory stated in the second quote would essentially be nullified. Second of all, there aren't many advantages of a Ghost making any report on anybody, so possessing Poland would have been a poor choice. Getting a Town report or a Mafia report would result in a detriment to the Ghost's win condition, which translates to the idea of Poland being such a poor target, especially with his past behavior.


So you're super confident that Columbia is actual scum pretending to be ghosted. Are you willing to lead a lynch on him tormorrow?
This is an awfully quick assumption for what was pretty much just mentioned by Brazil at the time. It brings both of them down in a way, considering the idea that it was just mentioned that I probably was possessed, but it was quickly dismissed, even when a general consensus was made that I WAS possessed.

Second off...Poland is lying about an Arms Dealer; Mafia members can't be recruited to the Cult. Iran is either Town or Cult at this point, considering the circumstances. With Norway dead, there's no way that the Cult has a supply of guns unless the Mafia found them, which is unlikely due to Egypt's confirmation that Australia was in fact a Consigliere. On top of this, I feel as if Poland did this to put fear in everybody of Iran being part of a Cult, increasing my Town read on him. The only thing I'm worried about is the fact that he got a gun twice in a row, which is a bit cautioning from my perspective. The only other thing I can think of with this is the idea that Poland lied about the idea of a suit, putting the fear of England being Town in everyone, as well as the fear that a Cult existed. It's a pretty plausible theory in practice, which makes me think that it's just one big bluff and that Poland was indeed the Witch. Though if this is the case, then Costa Rica needs to be scrutinized today due to a Mafia report on Poland, since it's a Neutral Witch, rather than a Mafia Witch.

Thirdly...Poland's idea of scum dominance. We've got 1-2 Mafia members left (I'm leaving out the potential of 3 left due to to the circumstances of all the other neutrals that have been confirmed). Along with this, a high possibility of a Serial Killer, and 5 Cult members at most, assuming they recruited successfully every night. That leaves the potential of a maximum of 7 scum left in the game (8 including Ghost, which still isn't enough), which leaves us with 11 Town (assuming the remainder of Hidden Any roles are all Town). There's no way for Poland to know that the scum would have control over Day 6 unless he knew about other neutrals being existent in the game, which -- based on the results he gave us if he is indeed a Sheriff -- is doubtful at this point in the game. Along with this, I got the idea of there being two Masons, and three Citizen claims left (two if you see me dead in the morning and if India doesn't get himself mod killed). Assuming every other recruit failed, that leaves the Masons with a maximum chance of 5/9 hitting a Cult member, which gives an even more distinct chance that the scum will not have control over Day 6 like Poland thinks they will. Along with the 1/9 chance of hitting the Cult Leader, there's that high of a chance that at most 4 scum die in one night, giving the Town a HUGE edge over all forms of scum. I don't get where the idea of scum dominance came from, but there's a huge chance that it isn't going to happen because of the Mason Leader. Possess the ML or not (besides, New Zealand won't know who the Mason Leader is anyway, so that idea pretty much screwed the theory completely, unless Poland hinted toward each member of the Cult, in which we should evaluate Poland's posts very closely if that is the case. It makes sense to give the Ghost an outline of who not to possess.

On a final note...here are the current reads I have right now. Green Yellow and Red are Town, Neutral, and Mafia, respectively. Purple represents a Cult read. If a Cult doesn't exist, then treat the purple as Mafia.

FM Argentina - His dismissal of Brazil's past posts (as shown above) worries me quite deeply. I'm not sure what all he has in store for the rest of the game, but I've a feeling that it isn't anything for the interest of the Town.
FM Brazil - Pretty much the same as Argentina, but his dismissal of me being possessed after conspicuously (yet subtly) saying so himself makes me think that somebody hinted toward him making a mistake, thus causing such a dismissal. Not sure what else to think with that.
FM Costa Rica - Would be Green had Poland showed up as Mafia, but he turned up as Witch. Even if he is Cult, that's a solid lie from you. Poland saying you were Town doesn't help either.
FM Cyprus - I can't make a read on him for some strange reason...it may be that he has a lot of posts, or maybe because he doesn't put all that much in his posts. I'm neutral about him, as I can see it being taken to either a Town or a Scum read.
FM Germany - Not sure what to think of him after Poland got lynched. He may be more likely Town from my perspective, but this is all WIFOM here.
FM India - Needs to post or be mod killed; his activity is ridiculous.
FM Iran - He's the best Town member we have right now, from my perspective. It'd be a shame if he turned out to be part of a Cult, but I'm willing to believe that he is Town right now.
FM Ireland - He hasn't posted enough for me to get a decent read, but from what I've seen, he seems like Town. I'd need more information to get a more accurate result though.
FM Japan - He is very clever with some of his analysis and theorizing, which is something that he has stood out for in recent days. If he were scum, he wouldn't come out of his shell like this, so I am fully confident that he is Town.
FM Kenya - He is surprisingly hard to read, even though his play style is a lot more antagonistic than most here. I'm not sure what to think of him in terms of alignment, because antagonism can stem from both Town and Scum.
FM Mexico - I believe his Citizen claim fully. Besides, a Citizen claim is likely to be neither Cult nor Mafia, so it works out.
FM Russia - Pretty much a confirmed Mason at this point.
FM Saudi Arabia - I seen to be the only one seeing the benignant intentions from him; he really hasn't done anything to put himself into a hole, and his theorizing ability is astonishingly well, but everyone seems to put it aside because he is suspicious. You should all rethink your read on him and look more closely.
FM Spain - They make decent posts when they are around, but they aren't the most active. They seem to have a very passive background style, which can either be an indicator for Serial Killer or a Town member that can't get into anything successfully (I could say the same about Saudi Arabia, but he's been a lot more active than Spain has). I can go either way on this one.
FM Sweden - I'm legitimately at a loss as to a decent read on her. No matter how hard I looked, I couldn't find a single thing that made her stand out except for her willingness to get more information out of my Day 1 analysis. I don't know what's going on with her other than that, but the random suspicions seem to be a bit unneeded.
FM Switzerland - He claimed to have requested a replacement, so I don't know what to think about him.
FM Thailand - Seriously, you need to do more. The more you troll around, the worse of a perception you get from other people, and I an no exception.
FM USA - Similarly to Japan, he came out of his shell later in the game, indicating Town.

Make of these what you will. As a final goodbye, I will leave you with my LW code.

ANTIDISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM

If you want to call bullshit on my code, then think of one currently living person who would make a LW like this other than me.


With Regards,
The Colombian Drug Administration
I confirm that Libya was a mason and was not tailored.

If the other mason or the mason leader needs to claim during the day, he should solve this code:

qaeipudmfnvijasdfgmznvgi

The cypher was posted in the mason chat night 4 reply #8.
I am a Citizen

Don't trust all the citizen claimers. Pressure Costa Rica today since no chance of being vented/ghost. Sweden was faking. I still agree Kenya is suspicious so it would be good to pressure him some more. Iran is a bit scummy now because he didn't like use voting Sweden and he should be watched.
I didn't expect to survive today, that evidence was just too damn good.

Serial killer, kill Brazil tonight.
I'd like to avoid you targeting the same people as the mafia so after Brazil why don't you focus the most active town and our guys will get the less active town


Mafia, tonight kill restipulation. I believe he is the ultrafiltration.



HAIL HYDRA
TL;DR
---------------------------
About
Last will and lynch of Argentina:
Mafia already know who is SK.

Their suggestion toward SK is about
1. Make sure no friendly fire between SK and Mafia
2. Gain + KPN
3. If true then it basically mean the last few mafia are medium active.

So based on activity(Quality of posts):
Most: USA, Cyprus, Mexico, Iran
Medium: Arabia, Japan, Kenya, Costa Rica, Germany
Low: Thailand,
Lower: India, Switzerland

A word to the wise serial Killer:

Sk have no idea who the last mafia is.
Once cooperate with Mafia, sk is at a lower ground:

Look this table of mafia's action if pressed: (mafia action)/(SK action)

Table of prisoner SK(Press) SK(hide)

Mafia(choose to out SK) OutSK/Gambit OutSK/Gambit

Mafia(choose to hide SK) Gambit/Gambit Gambit/Gambit


It means out sk is the dominate strategy for Mafia, despite what SK would do.
On the other side, all strategy to SK is indifferent.

And for SK once pressed, the only way out is to gambit

I hope the SK watch out what he is dealing with. There is no long term partnership with mafia.

Especially they know who you are while you don't know their number and roles.

However, you must notice if someone purposely protecting you. Those are the ones you want to think about.
------------------------
FM Brazil is replaced in night 3.
The last will is written by FM Brazil.
Credibility: FML
Value: Infinite Useless
Code: X doesn't matter. It was about Chinese reminder theorem.
FM Brazil is a twitching nutty Chinese bastard.


Warning: Lynch a neutral doesn't get you ANY town credit in my analysis

Action:
(Until day 7, all interviewed targets are alive. That is : Free Fullretard Passport is created)
Day 1: Arabia*** - No Response
Day 2: Cyprus
Day 3: Mexico
Day 4: Spain - No Response
Day 5: Switzerland
Day 6: USA
Day 7: Arabia - agian


----Night 3---
Don't like Norway anyway.

The previous Brazil is probably frustrated.

----Day 4----
Italy trusted Poland.

Italy died.

There is a drug dealer, who used to drug people with "attacked & healed"/"witched" to discredit them.

It is possible that Poland was drugged, so I lied healing him to shield him as much.

--------Night 4--------
"Targets are notified if they are successfully poisoned."

Bye Egypt.

Egypt lied about didn't check greenland. He did check greenland.

Why lie?

It gives him more space to accuse people.

And you fucktards wants all liars to pay the price?

Aint all liars are evil.

So some people is secretly discredit your townies. DO NOT FALL IN THAT SHIT TRAP.

I highly doubt there is a mason, but I just ride the tide and use masons to shield people I like.


----------Night 5-------------
Poland is non-mafia, as I guessed.

So he may guessed out few mafias from witch reporting and such.

Germany claimed a role to protect himself.

------Night 6------
Fuck, don't want toxicology to die but Sweden you are such a loser.

USA didn't check me. I bluffed.

USA said this in day 5:"Why isn't Brazil dead? He is a fucking doctor"

USA went to Germany Night 5.

---Day 7----

Ireland is dead. I guess killer is trying to hunt down the Journalist. My time is short.

I have been suspecting USA. --- Yes I put him in town council but he is not on my town list.

Today, the interview and early log in of USA indicate a gambit is under going.

I'm the one who can either derail the train or let it go.

Argentina tried to push me days ago. Failed.

For my high pressure policy, I'd let the train go as fast. .. a little too fast if you ask me.

But what if USA is testing me instead? He bluffed knowing who is journalist.

However think about it,

If USA is mafia, this gambit is a declaration of victory. It is way to risky.

Then there is one way to know it, as the journalist.

First I claim replacement to shield USA from predicting my intention.

Then I claim escort so that USA doesn't have to face testimony.

By That I can Hijack two strong cards from his hand and put in my own hand.

Since USA is not on a concrete ground, then I can 'derail' the train to see his reaction.

Then if USA haste to hammer, I could either play along.

Then I claim the interview are truthful to see if USA did wrote a true interview.

USA did not. Apparently he did not block Argentina the night before.

Then based on log in, I deduce germany is blocked.

Surprisingly, USA likely blocked Switzerland. That means he is a town.

Therefore, I do not have to expose myself.

If killers come after me, I buy USA at least a night to block the killer.

At this point of game, escort is more important.

At the same time, Argentina must be laughting if he read my journal.

Good death! Great Drama! Much plot!


***********Claim: USA is a TOWN, Prove*********
Assumption: If there are only 2-3 mafias left, it is still too early to pull a 1-1 gambit.
Then inductively,
If USA is mafia, he will not pull a gambit with huge risk.

1.4 people are involved in the USA gambit, Kenya, the Journalist, Germany and Argentina.

Each of us has the power to pull a dead "friendly" fire upon USA.

USA must be able to pull this gambit with 100% confident that there are at least 3 town among us 4 people.

And USA think Argentina is the (only)Mafia, if the artical said all truth.

2.USA retract his claim. Though gambitting, USA retract his detective claim also bears huge risk.

Argentina is right that USA is not detective, but for USA's part, it is much easier stick with the det claim to the end.

3.Dilemma of quick Hammer.

Facing a gambit, USA might not want to wait more accident.

With me, he could have easily hammered Argentina at L-2, but he chooses to wait.

Note I'm not possessed. It is high risk to wait a ghost comes to claim wrong RB information.

Conclusion: USA isn't pulling a dumb play, it was great. USA is likely town.






------------------------

The key people who know something/Mafia/Night Action/Feedback:
Poland
Saudi Arabia
Spain
Russia
Costa Rica
Argentina

Suggestive strong Town credit:
Cyprus
Southkorea
Egypt
Libya
Japan
Colombia
Mexico
Ireland

Smart people, better watch out if betray:
Japan
Cyprus
Arabia


Suggestion of Lynch/Pressure: Costa Rica/Spain/Arabia

Costa Rica lied. It is now proven.

If Sweden flipped Mafia then CostaRica is clean.

But sweden flip Toxicologist.

Costa Rica can still be mafia.

His defense is now Broken.

The rule is: YoLo - You only lie once.
-------------------------
Spain

1. Didn't response to interview
2. the original accusor of germany
3. let germany go too easy to be true
-----------------------------
Arabia

He Managed to miss key voting.

His isolation is also a good strategy to immune my relationship analysis.

But this play is bad for mafia.

Basically, if Arabia is mafia, he is playing for town's favor.

Until he doesn't show up, doesn't vote
---------------------------
If libya was killed by mafia, then Libya died only because he consistently accusing Costa Rica.

If Costa Rica is a mafia, then who give Costa Rica Town vibe with no support by Day 3 are likely scums.
---------------------------
Suggestion of Stradegy change: Town Fags

Sitting on wrong train is FINE.
Give your reason and stop hide like a fag.
If you are a bad or newbie player, face it.
No one will blame you.

But if you are a genius and find there are already too god damn many is playing hide and seek already, don't join that mud and make things WORSE.

USE MY TOWN COUNCIL!
------------------------




-----------
Key Post worth reading again again and again:
China Day 2 #233
GreenLand Day 2 #304
Colombia Day 2#309
Iran Day 2 #308
Italy Day 3 #67 ******
South Korea Day 3 #72 ***
Russia Day 3 #373
England #381
Libya Day 3 #473
Colombia Day 4 #40
Libya Day 4 #72
Brazil Day 4 #262
Brazil Day 6 All-Day-Long
----------------
Possible Bonds and Disbond:
USA - Colombia
Mexico - Iran
USA X Kenya
USA X Sweden
Spain X Germany


The least want-to-see Mafia Team:
You really do not want the mafia team to be like those, so watch out.


Possible Team 1: USA(Witch) Germany(Lawyer/Tailor) (???)

Possible Team 2: Arabia(Lawyer/Tailor), Argentina(Drug Dealer), (???)

Serial Killer: Spain/Costa Rica(???)


Extra Information:

Some dead people are deleted.
It is not easy to understand but you know a fact:
Members of Organized crime will not act in one line, unless the victory is nailed.
If one person with high frequency in list below flip mafia, the other high frequency ones are likely clean.
Assume Ghost and Vent will keep previous owner's style.

Lurk/Hint:
Iran (Day 2)
India (Day 2)(day 3)(day 4)(day 5)(day 6)
Spain (Day 2)

Medium Troll/sheeple/Useless arguements:
Mexico (Day 1)
USA (Day 2)
German (Day 1) (Day 2)
Thailand (Day 1)

Marginal attachment(Some discussion, some vote, no solid):
Japan (Day 1)(Day 2)(Day 4)(Day 5)(Day 6)
German (Day 3)(Day 4)

Content/Clear sight(Not major target but made discussion):
Saudi Arabia (Day 1)(Day 3)(Day 4)
Argentina(****)
Japan (Day 3)(Day 4)(Day 5)(Day 6)
Colombia (Day 3)
Mexico (Day 3)(Day 4)
Kenya (Day 4)
Iran (Day 3)
Cyprus (Day 6)

Living/Director(Come with a clear goal and will):
Cyprus (Day 2)(Interview)(Day 4)(Day 5)
England(****)
Egypt (****)
Iran (Day 5)
Kenya (Day 5)
USA (Day 6)

Swing/tumble (be attacked but dodged by various strategy):
Norway (Day 1)
Cyprus (Day 1)
Spain (Day 1)
Kenya (Day 2)(Day 3)(Day 6)***Note Kenya is really good at dodge accusasion

Clear Cut Defend (Single Irreversible Claim):
Costa Rica (Day 4)
Germany (Day 5)
Kenya (Day 6)
USA (Day 6)
Argentina (Day 7)

tunnle:
Green Land(****)
Argentina (****)
Switzerland (Day 2)
Spain (Day 4)
Kenya (Day 5)
Iran (Day 4)(Day 6)

Day 8 will end in 48 hours at 6:00 PM PST, May 1 (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=May+1%2C+2014%2C+6%3A00+PM+PST).

With 13 people alive, it takes 7

Old FM Kenya
April 29th, 2014, 06:30 PM
I'm disappointed in all of you. I was possessed by the ghost yesterday, and no one even seemed to notice. Granted, he didn't post as me much, but he also didn't solve my code or post a new one for today, which are things you should all expect from me given that I was the one who proposed the idea.

In any case, here's my solution to my day 6 code:
Password: whydoesnoonelistentome
Key: whereisthelogic
Code: TPDVTNLHWTZTSRVQMSLTVX

Nothing happened to me last night.

Old FM Iran
April 29th, 2014, 07:21 PM
I've actually read Brazil and I'm impressed. Really good reads. And he actually paid attention to the Day chat. And managed to protect our Escort. Well played!

So Arabia is Escort, I guess we have to wait, since once again we only had 1 kill.

Old FM Iran
April 29th, 2014, 07:25 PM
Also:

Switzerland - Citizen
USA - Student

We're close to mass claim I think. But we should probably do this after Arabia dies, so we know we have no protective role anyway.

Old FM Spain
April 29th, 2014, 07:28 PM
Nothing happened to me last night.

I was indeed given the opportunity to submit an article Night 4. I was very busy that night though, and by the time I had it finished, it was too late to submit it.

I have trouble believing Saudi's Student claim. Why would he choose Italy as his mentor? He didn't say much about what they discussed and his claim was almost hidden in his article. I almost missed it when I was skimming through it the first time. Yeah he said Italy was a bit inactive, but Saudi seems to be being purposely vague.

Old FM Iran
April 29th, 2014, 07:28 PM
Another brainfart. I think it's obvious I'm typing it right after I wake up.

USA - Escort, Arabia - Student. That makes way more sense. USA once again leading the world to victory, it's like Independece Day all over again.

Old FM Spain
April 29th, 2014, 07:29 PM
I've actually read Brazil and I'm impressed. Really good reads. And he actually paid attention to the Day chat. And managed to protect our Escort. Well played!

So Arabia is Escort, I guess we have to wait, since once again we only had 1 kill.
Where did you get that from? Saudi claimed Student.

Old FM Spain
April 29th, 2014, 07:30 PM
Whoops, missed your second post.

Old FM Iran
April 29th, 2014, 07:31 PM
I believe Arabia's claim, because it explains why he was so paranoid about Jester. He's voting pattern just screamed "not Town".

@Spain: I get this from being half-asleep while reading this;) I've brainfarted yesterDay as well.

Old FM Iran
April 29th, 2014, 08:32 PM
Btw, USA, have you ever posted your anti-ghost code? It would be nice to solve it before claiming result.

Old FM Costa Rica
April 29th, 2014, 10:58 PM
So guys i have some nice info i will post soon
be prepared
we gonna win this soon

Old FM Cyprus
April 30th, 2014, 12:29 AM
Post ONE

First of all...

I TOLD YOU SO!!!

In my opinion there are too many town PRs, even excluding Bulletproofs. For that many town PRs, we would expect 8 mafia, not 6. Evidence suggest that we have only 6 mafia. And KPN is too low.

I believe that there might be a hidden Cult Leader that did not recruit.

I might roleclaim today.


Reports

Confirmed
Semi-confirmed
Unconfirmed
Mine

N1:

Roleblocked – USA (faked)
Roleblocked – England (USA:Escort)
Roleblocked – Canada (???)
Roleblocked – Cyprus (???)

Killed – Australia (South Korea:Vigilante)
Killed – Pakistan (Mafia/SK)
Attacked – Columbia (Mafia/SK)
Poisoned – Kenya (Toxicologist)

Witched – Columbia (???)
Vest – England (Norway:Blacksmith)
Interviewed – Saudi Arabia (Brazil:Journalist)

N2:

Roleblocked – USA (faked)
Roleblocked – Italy (USA:Escort)

Killed – New Zealand (South Korea:Vigilante)
Killed – China (Mafia)
Killed – China (SK)
Poisoned – England (Toxicologist)

Witched – Italy (???)
Witched – Japan (???)
Tailored – England (???)
Framed – South Korea (???)
Gun – Iran (Norway:Blacksmith)
Interviewed – Cyprus (Brazil:Journalist)

N3:

Roleblocked – Canada (USA:Escort)
Roleblocked – Kenya (???)

Killed – Canada (South Korea:Vigilante)
Killed – South Korea (Mafia/SK)
Killed – Italy (Mafia/SK)
Killed – France (Iran:Gun)
Attacked – Poland (???)
Poisoned – Egypt (Toxicologist)

Witched – Cyprus (???)
Tailored – Poland (???)
Interviewed – Mexico (Brazil:Journalist)

N4:

Roleblocked – Argentina (USA:Escort)

Killed – Libya (Mafia/SK)

Witched – Cyprus (???)
Interviewed – Spain (Brazil:Journalist)

N5:

Roleblocked – Sweden (USA:Escort)
Roleblocked – Thailand (???)

Killed – Colombia (Mafia/SK)
Killed – Russia (Mafia/SK)

Witched – Kenya (???)
Interviewed – Switzerland (Brazil:Journalist)

N6:

Roleblocked – Argentina (USA:Escort)

Killed – Ireland (Mafia/SK)

Interviewed – USA (Brazil:Journalist)


Potential role list

Without Tailor:

Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Escort) - USA
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Doctor) -
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Mason Leader) -
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (???) -
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (???)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (??)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Mason)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Mason)
Hidden Non-Town (Serial Killer)
Hidden Any (Witch?)
Hidden Any (???)
Hidden Any (???)
Hidden Any (???)

With Tailor:

Hidden Norseman (Tailor)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Escort ) - USA
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Doctor)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Mason Leader)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Mason)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Mason)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (???)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (???)
Hidden Non-Town (Serial Killer)
Hidden Any (Witch?)
Hidden Any (???)
Hidden Any (???)
Hidden Any (???)

Old FM Japan
April 30th, 2014, 01:24 AM
Well, that is some good information, after all. So first I got again no feedback today, second there was only 1 kill (USA strikes again?). Then to point out my target today Switzerland said he asked for replacement 3 days ago, still didnt get one? really unlikely. To that he claimed citizen, his article on day 6 didnt helped at all and is different from his normal posting style. So i will go for him atm, going to reconsider vote if we get more clues later on against someone else. Also to note is that Costa rica said yesterday Argentina could disguise, how did he know it? I guess he is invest but well. FM Switzerland

Old FM Cyprus
April 30th, 2014, 01:47 AM
Post TWO

I'm a Survivor. I was attacked yesterday.

@Japan, town do not have an investigator.

Costa Rica should be a Lookout. I hope she found Serial Killer/Mafia yesterday.

Please don't kill me, thanks.

Old FM Mexico
April 30th, 2014, 03:23 AM
As usual, I were not fucking recruited.

Old FM Saudi Arabia
April 30th, 2014, 03:50 AM
@Mexico I'm doubting the existence of a recruiter to be honest. There's been literally no claims of recruited, and we have plenty of Cits that aren't recruited.

@Spain We didn't talk much, so I didn't think there was much of value to put there. He was sort of inactive in the chat, I should of known that from day chat to be honest.
And I chose him because he seemed to be playing somewhat like a TPR, and I was right; he was the Mayor. I was just hoping he had a night action so we could discuss who he targeted and such but that wasn't the case apparently.

@Cyprus If there's a Tailor we have 3 mafians left to deal with? That seems a bit hard to swallow considering it's so close to late game anyway. Also, I thought there were too many Cits as well?

I was RB'd last night. Let's wait for Thailand to come and do his daily RB'd claim! It looks like a kill got sent on Cyprus though, so there's probably that.

As for Cyprus's claim, I'm willing to believe it. It's the main thing that would make sense for where the kill went, besides maybe hitting a BP. While we wait for Costa Rica, I think we should just at least pressure the inactives. Not a lynch vote or anything, just enough for them to actually contribute.

Out of those, I personally am going to pressure India, because he actually was active at the beginning of yesterday and all he did was troll around and not contribute. And if someone's trying to derail day like that, especially on a day where there's pretty much a confirmed mafian out there, I consider that somewhat scummy.

FM India

Old FM Saudi Arabia
April 30th, 2014, 03:52 AM
*very scummy

not somewhat scummy.

Old FM Mexico
April 30th, 2014, 04:05 AM
@Mexico I'm doubting the existence of a recruiter to be honest. There's been literally no claims of recruited, and we have plenty of Cits that aren't recruited.

So we should completely discredit the Masn and say they're not Mason? They said in the LW that there's a ML and it should solve the code.

Old FM Saudi Arabia
April 30th, 2014, 04:19 AM
Ooh, true. I was thinking maybe they were Mason with a chat but with no ML? Is that even possible?
If no ML is present, do the Masons share a chat or no?

My keyboard died, so I'm probably going to be inactive for a little.

Forum Mafia GM
April 30th, 2014, 06:22 AM
If no ML is present, do the Masons share a chat or no?

As stated in the Mason rolecard, Yes.

Old FM USA
April 30th, 2014, 06:38 AM
hai

Old FM Mexico
April 30th, 2014, 08:46 AM
I have a theory about the Cult though, if there's any. They still have not found the Mason Leader and don't know who it is.

Old FM Iran
April 30th, 2014, 08:51 AM
hai

Hi Zealand. Things don't look so good for you, huh?

FM Thailand

I'm fine with lynching less active people, otherwise end game will bebad for us. Thailand actually cared enough to fake some activity at the beginning. There's a difference between being inactive and lurking, I think he's the second one.

Old FM Kenya
April 30th, 2014, 09:15 AM
Post ONE

First of all...

I TOLD YOU SO!!!

In my opinion there are too many town PRs, even excluding Bulletproofs. For that many town PRs, we would expect 8 mafia, not 6. Evidence suggest that we have only 6 mafia. And KPN is too low.

I believe that there might be a hidden Cult Leader that did not recruit.

I might roleclaim today.


Reports

Confirmed
Semi-confirmed
Unconfirmed
Mine

N1:

Roleblocked – USA (faked)
Roleblocked – England (USA:Escort)
Roleblocked – Canada (???)
Roleblocked – Cyprus (???)

Killed – Australia (South Korea:Vigilante)
Killed – Pakistan (Mafia/SK)
Attacked – Columbia (Mafia/SK)
Poisoned – Kenya (Toxicologist)

Witched – Columbia (???)
Vest – England (Norway:Blacksmith)
Interviewed – Saudi Arabia (Brazil:Journalist)

N2:

Roleblocked – USA (faked)
Roleblocked – Italy (USA:Escort)

Killed – New Zealand (South Korea:Vigilante)
Killed – China (Mafia)
Killed – China (SK)
Poisoned – England (Toxicologist)

Witched – Italy (???)
Witched – Japan (???)
Tailored – England (???)
Framed – South Korea (???)
Gun – Iran (Norway:Blacksmith)
Interviewed – Cyprus (Brazil:Journalist)

N3:

Roleblocked – Canada (USA:Escort)
Roleblocked – Kenya (???)

Killed – Canada (South Korea:Vigilante)
Killed – South Korea (Mafia/SK)
Killed – Italy (Mafia/SK)
Killed – France (Iran:Gun)
Attacked – Poland (???)
Poisoned – Egypt (Toxicologist)

Witched – Cyprus (???)
Tailored – Poland (???)
Interviewed – Mexico (Brazil:Journalist)

N4:

Roleblocked – Argentina (USA:Escort)

Killed – Libya (Mafia/SK)

Witched – Cyprus (???)
Interviewed – Spain (Brazil:Journalist)

N5:

Roleblocked – Sweden (USA:Escort)
Roleblocked – Thailand (???)

Killed – Colombia (Mafia/SK)
Killed – Russia (Mafia/SK)

Witched – Kenya (???)
Interviewed – Switzerland (Brazil:Journalist)

N6:

Roleblocked – Argentina (USA:Escort)

Killed – Ireland (Mafia/SK)

Interviewed – USA (Brazil:Journalist)


Potential role list

Without Tailor:

Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Escort) - USA
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Doctor) -
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Mason Leader) -
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (???) -
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (???)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (??)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Mason)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Mason)
Hidden Non-Town (Serial Killer)
Hidden Any (Witch?)
Hidden Any (???)
Hidden Any (???)
Hidden Any (???)

With Tailor:

Hidden Norseman (Tailor)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Escort ) - USA
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Doctor)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Mason Leader)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Mason)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (Mason)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (???)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon (???)
Hidden Non-Town (Serial Killer)
Hidden Any (Witch?)
Hidden Any (???)
Hidden Any (???)
Hidden Any (???)

You forgot to include possessed feedback. Costa Rica N5 and me N6

Old FM Germany
April 30th, 2014, 10:14 AM
hai

heil!

I wonder who the possesed person is.. hmm.


I have a theory about the Cult though, if there's any. They still have not found the Mason Leader and don't know who it is.


There is no mason leader and there is no cult.

Old FM Costa Rica
April 30th, 2014, 10:18 AM
hey guys i'm back. are you ready for the win? are you ready to kill someone off today?

Old FM Thailand
April 30th, 2014, 10:25 AM
Herro

Listen all I have been inactive because I have been doing personal things
If you have any questions just ask I will be here for a few hours

Old FM Costa Rica
April 30th, 2014, 10:31 AM
Well, that is some good information, after all. So first I got again no feedback today, second there was only 1 kill (USA strikes again?). Then to point out my target today Switzerland said he asked for replacement 3 days ago, still didnt get one? really unlikely. To that he claimed citizen, his article on day 6 didnt helped at all and is different from his normal posting style. So i will go for him atm, going to reconsider vote if we get more clues later on against someone else. Also to note is that Costa rica said yesterday Argentina could disguise, how did he know it? I guess he is invest but well. FM Switzerland

i'm not sure i said that. but it'd would be kinda obvious, because of the 50% chance he was an sk who can disguise


i'm pissed brazil caused so much confusion by claiming to have healed ppl. including poland the witch. and then the troll thing yesterday lol. wtf? no wonder we didnt figure out kenya was possessed. finally we know now


Day 1: Arabia*** - No Response
Day 2: Cyprus
Day 3: Mexico
Day 4: Spain - No Response
Day 5: Switzerland
Day 6: USA
Day 7: Arabia - agian

i have to point out that many of you misread his night targets. you can see he started d1. no interview can be posted d1, so he means the day he requested the person to write it. it was written in the following night with same number and posted on the day with number+1
so arabia's interview was posted today where he claimed student. usa claimed escort and was posted d7.

Old FM Costa Rica
April 30th, 2014, 10:32 AM
my code from d5

ACANDDC
NOCESAR
NQCRVDT

info will be posted now

Old FM Costa Rica
April 30th, 2014, 10:33 AM
oh and new code of course
BIPHC

Old FM Thailand
April 30th, 2014, 10:47 AM
So no question

Old FM USA
April 30th, 2014, 10:53 AM
Hi Zealand. Things don't look so good for you, huh?

FM Thailand

I'm fine with lynching less active people, otherwise end game will bebad for us. Thailand actually cared enough to fake some activity at the beginning. There's a difference between being inactive and lurking, I think he's the second one.

Who the fuck cares if things aren't looking good for me?

Old FM Costa Rica
April 30th, 2014, 11:05 AM
ok now here we go

I am a Detective
Cyprus is a Killer. Probably sk if he was attacked tonight. because sk has immunity
with sk dead we can easily play our win out

i'll just post my last will



first of all, here is my code for lw (created d2 page 9 with 50ppp):
[REDACTED]

night 1 i targeted canada. i thought he's scum, because of his d1 posts.
unfortunately he was roleblocked, so i couldn't gain any information. seems the roleblock was real though, because he actually visited no one. anyway, i won't target him again, because the roleblock should give us enough information. i think the roleblock was made by an escort.

night 2 i'm going for fm mexico. he visited no one. pretty sure he's a citizen, so i prevented his lynch d3

night 3 i thought about targeting south korea, just for the risk he might be an sk who disguises but then i decided to just trust him.
this night i instead went for poland as i must see if he's legit or not. poland targeted cyprus. i hinted at this in my #121 post on d4 by asking poland what he thinks about cyprus.
either way this made it pretty likely poland is a real sheriff or a witch (or a jester given his behaviour). i wasn't going to lynch a possible sheriff on d4 for the chance of getting the witch, a rather low priority. on d5 i supported the lynch because i saw we had to decide between poland and germany, though i'd rather lynched sweden but that was not necessary. glad you could lynch him d5 and not germany when i was already asleep. many of us including me made one wrong assumption: we assumed poland would do what's best for his win condition. we never accounted poland to just be dumb and go on a suicide mission.

night 4 i went for sweden
he was on my scum list early game, then i removed him temporary but on d4 i added him again. he targeted lybia who died, so sweden is surely a neutral killer or mafia who killed. funny that the actually flipped poisoner, that means lybia was not only killed but also poisoned.

night 5: i think cyprus is a neutral killer, he was blocked n1 when there was a missing kill. everyone else who was blocked n1 is already dead apart from usa but he claimed blocked again next night when all kills went through. also he was witched twice, maybe poland found a neutral killer here.
i was ghosted (is specifically said by a GHOST) this night/the following day (i'm glad you got sweden the pretender, nice job)
when i got access to my account back, i received feedback that cyprus killed russia. that means he probably lied about his rb n1 or it was drugged.
either way, he is probably sk so if you read this lynch him ASAP because high chance he disguises. but if the mafia choosed to send someone else than argentina in this night for the kill, he can also be mafia. if he is sk i claim mvp for finding poisoner and sk, making the best out of my night action as possible

night 6: kenya seems legit bulletproof to me. especially now that we know germany lied about being bulletproof. so i guess i will confirm or clear one of my suspects. going for ireland tonight. visited no one, too bad he died, couldnt see that coming

night 7: going for cyprus again. too high chance he is sk and disguises, because many ppl already suspect him. as expected he killed again, brazil this time. didnt disguise though


mafia roles:
beguiler (dead)
consig (dead)
consort (dead)
disguiser (dead)
drug dealer (n1 rb drug n2 witch drug n3 ? drug n4 witched n5 ?)
maybe one more maf (possibly journalist is mafia)

neutrals: witch, sk, toxi, ghost, ninja

hidden roles:
hidden non town: toxi, ninja, witch, ghost (all confirmed by graveyard)
hidden any: 1-2 mafias, sk, maybe some other neutrals, rest town


egypt was poisoned n3. he would mention it, so he was ghosted. looking back, i saw he made a code in #487 d3, in which he put some effort after my advice. he never solved it. he didn't just forget it, he deliberately didnt which is shown in #382 d4, where he created a new code without solving the last. wonder why he didnt write a lw. but i figured out now that if you're ghosted you won't receive feedback on your main account, you have to wait. so egypt didnt know he was poisoned and couldnt tell us in lw. same for his n3 feedback

the norway lynch was really unfortunate. take it as a lesson to not make such lies as town. i see it as lie even if only meant as joke because he never retracted it.
anyway, it should have given us a lot of information though. just compare it to the greenland train.

also guys there is no vent. there is just ONE ghost.
anyway, so it can't happen again that someone makes a code and we don't realize that he never solved it, i will now take notes of everyone who creates a code and cross them off the list if they solve it (i started this d4)

i wasn't posting so much at start, because i had to stay alive. given that sheriff almost can't find shit, i am the most important role probably, especially because the other detective died n1
i can find all killing roles, many mafia and evil roles and, most importantly, i can tell who of the lurkers are just citizens.

ppl scum reading me after the norway lynch was some kind of life assurance.

the sheriff gambit was a win/win
i felt like i had to claim d5 because i feared lawyer (because fucking lybia couldnt submit lw) but didnt want to so i can get more information.
either you just lynched sweden (which i doubted) or you lynched germany and in this case i ensured to survive the night, unless they're dumb enough to kill me. they sure don't think i'm really sheriff and killing me just makes it clear to everybody sweden is scum
the results i give you were all true, apart from egypt, i actually checked poland but couldn't figure out his alignment so i couldn't give a sheriff result and made up egypt result

now turns out sweden wasn't mafia. anyway, this wrong result ensured my survival.

d7 i would've revealed but there was already a solid lead.


in case it helps you, my scum and town list


town list:

tier 1 (pretty sure):
me
mexico
usa

tier 2 (probably):
germany
switzerland
kenya

tier 3 (rather town but not sure):
spain
japan

scum list:

tier 1 (sure):
cyprus


tier 2 (probably):
thailand

tier 3 (rather scum but not sure):
india
iran


unsure: saudi arabia

Old FM Germany
April 30th, 2014, 11:10 AM
He claimed survivor so no big loss if costa rica is lying Fm cyprus

Old FM Costa Rica
April 30th, 2014, 11:21 AM
FM Cyprus
forgot

Old FM Kenya
April 30th, 2014, 11:23 AM
Hmm... Cyprus was someone I've been meaning to look into for a while because I thought he might be scum. If he's SK it explains why he was witched so often, AND why the Poland the witch didn't bother to control SoKo- he had already found a killer to manipulate. This actually makes a lot of sense.

FM Cyprus

If Cyprus really was attacked last night, it explains the missing kill, but it could also be him trying to protect a mafia who was roleblocked last night, so I would recommend for our escort to block the same person tonight that they blocked last night to find out.

This more or less proves that there is no tailor in the game, which pretty much invalidates all my crazy theories. Oh well. They generated some good discussion.

Now to find the remaining mafia. I checked Japan's votes and he's been on almost all the scum lynches, but for some reason he still rubs me the wrong way, so I may have to do a more thorough read of him.

Also if USA is the escort that means his whole detective claim to "confirm" Germany was a lie, so Germany is still a suspect.

Old FM Costa Rica
April 30th, 2014, 11:35 AM
he already said it was a lie lol

Old FM Germany
April 30th, 2014, 11:37 AM
you forget how i heroically saved you and turned the train around into sweden. Do you really think a scum would do that?

Old FM Japan
April 30th, 2014, 11:43 AM
Well, totally in for Cyprus, his survivor claims seems to be like a last resort for him to let mafia believe he isnt sk (saw that really often in normal mafia games), Costa Ricas detective claim and espacially his lw are looking legit, also I believe the host put more as only 1 investigative role for town in and since there are no other claims for it, it supports his one. FM Cyprus

Old FM Thailand
April 30th, 2014, 11:50 AM
FM Cyprus

So we lynch Cyprus then if he dosent come up as sk we lynch Costa Rica

Btw does anyone want me to post my reads or does no one give a flying fuck

Old FM USA
April 30th, 2014, 11:51 AM
FM Cyprus

So we lynch Cyprus then if he dosent come up as sk we lynch Costa Rica

Btw does anyone want me to post my reads or does no one give a flying fuck

I don't give a flying fuck

Old FM Mexico
April 30th, 2014, 11:51 AM
Short day is short.

Old FM Thailand
April 30th, 2014, 11:55 AM
If people knew my com then I would be town on people's eye cause eoecwould know how I act

Old FM Costa Rica
April 30th, 2014, 11:59 AM
FM Cyprus

So we lynch Cyprus then if he dosent come up as sk we lynch Costa Rica

Btw does anyone want me to post my reads or does no one give a flying fuck

can also be mafia killer but probably sk

Old FM Thailand
April 30th, 2014, 12:01 PM
Btw any questions for me

@cyprus ok but if not sk or maf we lynch you

Old FM Switzerland
April 30th, 2014, 12:02 PM
Well, that is some good information, after all. So first I got again no feedback today, second there was only 1 kill (USA strikes again?). Then to point out my target today Switzerland said he asked for replacement 3 days ago, still didnt get one? really unlikely. To that he claimed citizen, his article on day 6 didnt helped at all and is different from his normal posting style. So i will go for him atm, going to reconsider vote if we get more clues later on against someone else. Also to note is that Costa rica said yesterday Argentina could disguise, how did he know it? I guess he is invest but well. FM Switzerland

If you had actually bothered reading my posts before just throwing your random vote here, you'd know why I'm still alive/haven't been replaced. But nice to know I'm your ''target'', I'll keep it in mind.

But anyway, ezpz.
Do we want to early lynch again to get a shorter night cycle?

Old FM USA
April 30th, 2014, 12:15 PM
If you had actually bothered reading my posts before just throwing your random vote here, you'd know why I'm still alive/haven't been replaced. But nice to know I'm your ''target'', I'll keep it in mind.

But anyway, ezpz.
Do we want to early lynch again to get a shorter night cycle?

yee brutha

Old FM Saudi Arabia
April 30th, 2014, 01:05 PM
FM Cyprus

It wouldn't make sense for someone to lie to go after a Survivor anyway, so I'm willing to believe Costa Rica here.

Old FM Mexico
April 30th, 2014, 01:20 PM
Hater's gonna hate short days. Btw guys, I got Roleblocked this night.

Wifom, no one get to talk about my claim which is a true one.

FM Cyprus

The Godfather
April 30th, 2014, 01:20 PM
FM Cyprus has been sacrificed! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


FM Cyprus ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/12290') (7 [L-0]): FM Japan ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=441111'), FM Saudi Arabia ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=441130'), FM Germany ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=441101'), FM Costa Rica ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=441104'), FM Kenya ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=441105'), FM Thailand ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=441113'), FM Mexico ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=441135')
FM Thailand ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/12300') (1 [L-6]): FM Iran ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=441075')