FM XXI: Day 1

[Forum Mafia GM]

FM XXI: Day 1

Setup Located Here (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/26455-FM-XXI-Setup-amp-Rolecards)

Roles List:

VIKING INVADERS
Ragnar Lodbrok (Hidden Norseman)
Hidden Norseman
Hidden Norseman
Hidden Norseman

KINGDOM OF NORTHUMBRIA
King Aelle (Hidden Anglo-Saxon)
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon
Hidden Anglo-Saxon

UNKNOWNS
Hidden Non-Town
Hidden Non-Town
Hidden Non-Town
Hidden Non-Town
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any
Hidden Any

Players:

FM Argentina
FM Australia
FM Brazil
FM Canada
FM China
FM Colombia
FM Costa Rica
FM Cyprus
FM Egypt
FM England
FM Fiji
FM France
FM Germany
FM Greenland
FM India
FM Iran
FM Ireland
FM Italy
FM Japan
FM Kenya
FM Libya
FM Mexico
FM New Zealand
FM Norway
FM Pakistan
FM Poland
FM Russia
FM Saudi Arabia
FM South Korea
FM Spain
FM Sweden
FM Switzerland
FM Thailand
FM USA



Day 1 will begin at 6:00 PM PST (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=April+9%2C+2014%2C+6%3A00+PM+PST).

[Forum Mafia GM]

Day 1 has begun!

Day ends in in 24 hours at 6:00 PM PST, Thursday April 10. (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=April+10%2C+2014%2C+6%3A00+PM+PST)

With 34 players alive, it takes 18

Please remember to follow the rules, including all forum rules.

[Old FM Ireland]

Hello Everyone! and...

Go mbeidh Ádh mór na Gaeilge libh go léir!

[Old FM Pakistan]

Hello

[Old FM Pakistan]

Ireland needs mod killing. He already broke the rules.

[Old FM Argentina]

Los Avengadores Assembelisimo!


It is I, Señor Capitán Argentina. I have already solved this el gameo. I quick altavista search of "Nordic Countries" revealed that FM Norway, FM Sweden and FM Greenland are Viking Invaders. The forth member is obviously FM Latveria, could anyone other than Victor von Doom be Ragnar Lodbrok?

FM Norway

[Old FM Ireland]

Hello Everyone! and...

Go mbeidh Ádh mór na Gaeilge libh go léir!

For those who don't wanna use Google Translate. May the Luck of the Irish be with you all!

[Old FM Colombia]

Ey, how ya doin'?

I'm not really used to having the opportunity to lynch on Day 1, but I guess it'll be a new experience. Not sure whether it's worth it to skip or not though, since it's likely that there aren't going to be 18 votes in 24 hours.

[Old FM Pakistan]

Argentina also breaking rules.

[Old FM Argentina]

Argentina also breaking rules.

What language is "Avengadores Assembelisimo"?

[Old FM Pakistan]

Not English. Hey if I can get everyone mod killed I could set a new record and win day 1.

[Old FM Ireland]

What language is "Avengadores Assembelisimo"?

I am guessing Portugese. :) Atleast that is what google translate says. Although it says that means assembly system Avengadores. So I don't really know lol.

[Old FM Argentina]

Not English. Hey if I can get everyone mod killed I could set a new record and win day 1.


8- Codes and Encrypted Messages:
No code or encryption may be created with the use of a program or website. Pencil and paper is just fine. If you manage to make a mathematical cipher that encrypts a message, then I'm OK with it since it will be very hard to hide the fact that you are sending a secret message if you type a bunch of gibberish. You may even use the invisible ink, due to the high risk of exposure from someone quoting you. Note that Rule #1 ALWAYS applies.

I maintain that what I wrote is gibberish and as such falls in line with rule 8.

[Old FM Poland]

Hey everyone, you can call me Tom. I'm looking for my good friend Jerry.

A quick read through has revealed this!


Not English. Hey if I can get everyone mod killed I could set a new record and win day 1.

Pakistan is confessing to a role that wins on it's own! Get him boys....
FM Pakistan

[Old FM Colombia]

Not English. Hey if I can get everyone mod killed I could set a new record and win day 1.
Oh hey look, I found a neutral. 8D

And look, more people saw that! 8D

Maybe I'll get lynch happy!

FM Pakistan

[Old FM Pakistan]

Argentina has not read the rules and is breaking rule #6... Not 8

[Old FM Argentina]

Argentina has not read the rules and is breaking rule #6... Not 8

A specific allowance of gibberish in rule 8 overrules a general restriction of non-english in rule 6. L ignortantoaloso

[Old FM Sweden]

Hullo everyone. Meta dictates Pakistan is town

[Old FM Pakistan]

Although I appreciate the sentiment Sweden, I would not consider that good use of meta, in fact I've seen many scums in the past post similar things.

[Old FM Egypt]

I declare war on FM Libya and demand they surrender all lands east of and including Banghazi. Our troops have begun gathering on the border and we will invade at midnight. We will be taking our time to destroy homes in our wake. If we can't use it no one can.

You have 6.5 hours.

[Old FM Cyprus]

Losers still stuck with flags. Yawn.

[Old FM Canada]

I declare war on FM Libya and demand they surrender all lands east of and including Banghazi. Our troops have begun gathering on the border and we will invade at midnight. We will be taking our time to destroy homes in our wake. If we can't use it no one can.

You have 6.5 hours.

With all the civil unrest in your country right now? I think not. But damn nigga, u bootiful, let me get dat booty.

On a more serious note, here is a random pressure vote to get someone to talk even though they probably won't anyways considering most people, even when there is a lynch, tend to troll on this day. But hey, worth a try.

FM New Zealand

[Old FM Cyprus]

FM Turkey

Serious vote. This guy is scum.

[Old FM Canada]

FM Turkey

Serious vote. This guy is scum.

This would be more logical of you were FM Greece.

But then again there is no FM Greece.

This is madness.

[Old FM Colombia]

Damn, Canada has gone a whole two posts without apologizing. Canada is obviously scum.

FM Pakistan
FM Canada

[Old FM Canada]

Damn, Canada has gone a whole two posts without apologizing. Canada is obviously scum.

FM Pakistan
FM Canada

Hey, I hear coke goes for 5 bucks down there per kilo. Can I get some?

[Old FM Colombia]

Man, I wish I could, but I'm selling all my shit to America. That whole marijuana industry in Colorado has made it ten times easier to smuggle shit up into there. You're up there with your stoned mayors in your big cities, and you're making our business look bad! At least America takes pride in their coke.

[Old FM France]

O HAI EVERY1 I AM READY TO SURRENDER AT ANY TIME EVEN WHEN IM WINNING THE WAR!

[Old FM France]

WE ARE TYPICALLY PUSSIES YOU KNOW?

[Old FM France]

FM CYPRUS
THIS SEXY MAN IS TOO DANGEROUS TO BE LEFT ALIVE. HE WILL SEDUCE US INTO HIS TRAP!

[Old FM Kenya]

Hello.

[Old FM France]

Hello.

HAI

[Old FM Colombia]

HAI
Don't mind him, he just managed to smuggle some of our shit to France somehow. He's obviously an American, you know?

[Old FM South Korea]

Hello everyone

FoS me and I'll make sure my Mafia team shoots you so you won't push on me the next day

[Old FM South Korea]

Also, it's kind of obvious there's gonna be a Cult in this game. Anyone denying that is Cult and should be allied with.

[Old FM France]

Don't mind him, he just managed to smuggle some of our shit to France somehow. He's obviously an American, you know?

RUDE AND RACIST

[Old FM France]

Also, it's kind of obvious there's gonna be a Cult in this game. Anyone denying that is Cult and should be allied with.

I CLAIM CULT

[Old FM Sweden]

It really figures there would be a cult in this save.
How is everyone feeling this evening?

[Old FM South Korea]

I CLAIM CULT

Alright, who do you think I should shoot tonight?

No one's really stood out to me yet.

[Old FM France]

It really figures there would be a cult in this save.
How is everyone feeling this evening?

HORNY, YOU?

[Old FM France]

Alright, who do you think I should shoot tonight?

No one's really stood out to me yet.

YOU SHOULD SHOOT THIS DANGEROUSLY SEXY MAN CYPRUS

[Old FM South Korea]

YOU SHOULD SHOOT THIS DANGEROUSLY SEXY MAN CYPRUS

Night action locked in. Fuck team communication, I'm gonna be out of town for some business shit tomorrow.

[Old FM Cyprus]

FM CYPRUS
THIS SEXY MAN IS TOO DANGEROUS TO BE LEFT ALIVE. HE WILL SEDUCE US INTO HIS TRAP!

I don't do wimpy geeks.

[Old FM South Korea]

In case my team doesn't let me shoot, my role is Chauffer, who should I swap?

[Old FM France]

I don't do wimpy geeks.

GASP MY POODLE DISAGREE HMPH

[Old FM Canada]

It really figures there would be a cult in this save.
How is everyone feeling this evening?

bby. You wanna ride my big black one bby? Bigger den anythin u seen befor.

[Old FM South Korea]

skip

[Old FM France]

bby. You wanna ride my big black one bby? Bigger den anythin u seen befor.

ILL RIDE YOUR BLACK CAR BBY ITLL BE FUN I CALL SHOTGUN

[Old FM Canada]

Hello everyone

FoS me and I'll make sure my Mafia team shoots you so you won't push on me the next day

ey nother sexy lady, wanna go for a ride?



Also, it's kind of obvious there's gonna be a Cult in this game. Anyone denying that is Cult and should be allied with.

Or, this could be a mind fuck and he actually knew we would think this and he didn't put it in.


Alright, who do you think I should shoot tonight?

No one's really stood out to me yet.

Shoot my load on yo face.


But in all seriousness. Your claims are... sad.

I have come to the conclusion that you are a bored, trolling citizen.

[Old FM Cyprus]

YOU SHOULD SHOOT THIS DANGEROUSLY SEXY MAN CYPRUS

At most she will be roleblocking me. I'm the one who is getting to shoot her tonight. Not you, not anyone else.

Sweet Swede babe is welcome to join. I'll shoot you too.

Who else wants a piece of me?

[Old FM Canada]

ILL RIDE YOUR BLACK CAR BBY ITLL BE FUN I CALL SHOTGUN

Nigga, we're gonna be doin drive bys and shit nigga. We don't need you surrenderin.

[Old FM Canada]

At most she will be roleblocking me. I'm the one who is getting to shoot her tonight. Not you, not anyone else.

Sweet Swede babe is welcome to join. I'll shoot you too.

Who else wants a piece of me?

fite me nigga. Des my hoes. You might got them abs but they to compensate 4 ur 2 inches. I got dat 11 inches.

[Old FM France]

Nigga, we're gonna be doin drive bys and shit nigga. We don't need you surrenderin.

OH OKAY DO YOU STILL WANT A CROISSANT?

[Old FM Colombia]

At most she will be roleblocking me. I'm the one who is getting to shoot her tonight. Not you, not anyone else.

Sweet Swede babe is welcome to join. I'll shoot you too.

Who else wants a piece of me?
Would you do someone with a pile of weed in their pants?

[Old FM Canada]

OH OKAY DO YOU STILL WANT A CROISSANT?

No nigga. Fried Chicken. They got dat in france?

[Old FM France]

Would you do someone with a pile of weed in their pants?

ILL DO IT

[Old FM France]

No nigga. Fried Chicken. They got dat in france?

YOU FRY CHICKENS?! YOU MONSTER!

[Old FM Cyprus]

Would you do someone with a pile of weed in their pants?


ILL DO IT

The french can do you, I'll do your weed. Thanks bud.

Any beauties wanna smoke with me?

[Old FM Canada]

The french can do you, I'll do your weed. Thanks bud.

Any beauties wanna smoke with me?

fite me

[Old FM France]

The french can do you, I'll do your weed. Thanks bud.

Any beauties wanna smoke with me?

ITS MY WEEDS NOW I TAKE IT FROM YOU SLAP

[Old FM Colombia]

The french can do you, I'll do your weed. Thanks bud.

Any beauties wanna smoke with me?
Damn, no wonder your shit is fought over all the time. You need to lay back a bit, bro.

[Old FM France]

I found information I wasn't supposed to know, Ill replace myself out. Peace.

[Old FM Cyprus]

ITS MY WEEDS NOW I TAKE IT FROM YOU SLAP

Dodges slap counters with manly punch to the face and manly kick to the groin.

[Old FM South Korea]

I found information I wasn't supposed to know, Ill replace myself out. Peace.

"You know that saying, 'It's been a pleasure'?

Well it hasn't."

[Old FM Cyprus]

I found information I wasn't supposed to know, Ill replace myself out. Peace.


"You know that saying, 'It's been a pleasure'?

Well it hasn't."

???

[Old FM Italy]

Dodges slap counters with manly punch to the face and manly kick to the groin.


"You know that saying, 'It's been a pleasure'?

Well it hasn't."


???

Profit.

[Old FM Cyprus]

Gonna get my usual protein supplements brb

[Forum Mafia GM]

Update: Player Notes have been removed due to topic title appearing in the Statistics section. Topics could not be read, but titles could be seen.
I'll send player's their notes.

[Old FM Iran]

Did you know that Iran = Persia? Now you do.

I find lack of post count disturbing. How will I know who's lurking?

Poland claimed Student.

I hate RVS.

[Old FM Iran]

Link to the setup in the first post would be nice.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Link to the setup in the first post would be nice.

All you have to do is click FM XXI at the top and it's right there. It's faster than going to the first page. But I'll add one anyways

[Old FM Pakistan]

Booooo for statistics. Where is oops when we need him? Oh yea he retired.

[Old FM Iran]

Huh, didn't notice that. It is actually faster, nice.

[Old FM South Korea]

Did you know that Iran = Persia? Now you do.

I find lack of post count disturbing. How will I know who's lurking?

Poland claimed Student.

I hate RVS.

Link to post

[Old FM Sweden]

Excuse me while I slip into Cyprus' bed. We are gonna have a long night together ;)

[Old FM Ireland]

Excuse me while I slip into Cyprus' bed. We are gonna have a long night together ;)

Sounds like a lot of fun. Can I have next night?

[Old FM Ireland]

Also FM China

Take out China and there goes a lot of the population :)

[Old FM China]

Hey, so I come on to see a fuck full of shit.

So I am just going to stare at the screen and wait. Apparently day 1 is troll day for everyone. If people are going to do such thing I am not even gonna post.

I rather wait for everyone to be serious.

[Old FM South Korea]

China is a Jester

[Old FM South Korea]

Too obvious. l2wifom l2jester l2yayap

[Old FM USA]

*Obligatory post about threatening Russia*
*obligatory post about checking in*

*nonobligatory post about wanting to lynch someone*

[Old FM China]

China is a Jester

Nah, I'm executioner and my target is USA.

They owe us too much now everyone sheep me so I can get ez win.

FM USA

[Old FM South Korea]

FM USA

[Old FM USA]

*votes china because of imagined racial superiority*

-FM China

[Old FM Pakistan]

So with the forum exploit exposed about thread names and statistics, I'd like to remind everyone that has a night chat not to include any info in your titles.
Like students don't mention your mentors,
cult & masons don't include any names like in the past... I've seen some threads named: (new recruits name) read this before posting in day.
Mafia, same thing, don't post target names in titles.
Especially jailers, don't name your jail with the jailed persons name.


Consider this a helpful post to all alignments. I would hate to see this game won on a technical forum flaw.




Since this is a lynch day, I was thinking of actually doing some analysis but after all the stupidity already posted, there is to high of chance that I would pressure a trolling town. So I'll go back to my old ways and wait for day 2 before really jumping into this game. Hopefully it doesn't take me too long to filter out the trolls from my suspect list.

[Old FM Poland]

Poland claimed Student.


Are you Jerry?

[Old FM China]

Friendly reminder:


3- Profiles:
Invisible mode will be mandatory. You may not turn it off.

*cough* South Korea *cough*

[Old FM Costa Rica]

Blue fm names? Shouldnt they be greene or something
Anyway i checked in now. i will choose an avatar later.

[Old FM Germany]

NEIN NEIN NEIN!

[Old FM Norway]

The Norvegian Valkyrie came to escort you to Valhalla!

[Old FM Pakistan]

That doesn't sound English Germany.

[Old FM Switzerland]

Bonjour les amis! Switzyland reporting in.

[Old FM Norway]

That doesn't sound English Germany.

The let him speah Engrish if he doesn't understand English.

[Old FM Cyprus]

I hope the french guy won't get replaced for being honest.

Hey, I think he saw titles like "Chinese Ghost Stories", "AMURICA BIRTHPLACE OF JESUS" and "diary of pakistani suicide bomber" which you know revealed roles.

[Old FM Poland]

It seems Jerry is hiding, maybe a little pressure will force him out?

FM USA

[Old FM South Korea]

Everyone needs to start soft claiming their roles now. Then when Town does a role call, you can explain your crumbs. Beware though, I expect my team to be vigilant about catching soft claims.

[Old FM Italy]

Dodges slap counters with manly punch to the face and manly kick to the groin.


"You know that saying, 'It's been a pleasure'?

Well it hasn't."


Everyone needs to start soft claiming their roles now. Then when Town does a role call, you can explain your crumbs. Beware though, I expect my team to be vigilant about catching soft claims.

Yes, we need to be careful and watch for those soft claims. Wouldn't want Ragnar Lodbrok to escape us today unnoticed.

[Old FM Italy]

In other news, fuck you old multiquotes.

[Old FM South Korea]

Also, there are no less than 6 Mafias in this game. Count on it.

[Old FM Cyprus]

My stamina is good enough to satisfy miss sweden and ireland tonight.

[Old FM Norway]

My stamina is good enough to satisfy miss sweden and ireland tonight.

Hexy, I'm sexy enough for you as well!

[Old FM Greenland]

Fear not! Shrek, king of sheep, has arrived.

I claim the lands of Iceland for myself and my sheep.

[Old FM Greenland]

The Norvegian Valkyrie came to escort you to Valhalla!

What's that queen Horny? Vikings are from Scandinavia?

We must stop the sexy human!

FM Norway

[Old FM Greenland]

I am so fluffy someone bounce on me

[Old FM Greenland]

Im so lonely. Time to retire to the cave. Come queen Horny!

[Old FM Mexico]

Lonely?

Senör, uno dos tres
Cuchillo
Make no senseli, mexicano viking mesero!

El taco, senör
Mañana, stuff happenis

kay this grew boring quick

[Old FM Norway]

Im so lonely. Time to retire to the cave. Come queen Horny!

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!

[Old FM Mexico]

that is a challenge?
El pastö, do it with dignitey, five knives a second

Still no sënse

Alsö senör, arson guranteed, doctor burn heals fire
Likely canadiense, gracias

[Old FM USA]

*post about (terrorist) scum against America*

[Old FM Mexico]

Wait a min, shaman unique
conf killer

Double shaman possible?
Shit, double arson?
So many unknowns

Nevermind no role more specualtion, too many randoms
Jesus and christians confirmed, hola

[Old FM Saudi Arabia]

GREENLAND HUN I SHALL BOUNCE ON YOU IT SHALL BE THE SPECTACLE OF THE WORLD!

(just let me go blow up America)
FM USA

[Old FM Libya]

Oh shoot. It started. Well hello folks.. its Libya.

[Old FM Japan]

Well i see many interesting things here and many not, anyway will stay in the background day 1, since I dont like day 1 lynches and its to short to lynch anyone anyway.

[Old FM Mexico]

Oh shoot. It started. Well hello folks.. its Libya.

Hola, burning flags? Shots fired, I think you're a bearer of nothing, senör.


Well i see many interesting things here and many not, anyway will stay in the background day 1, since I dont like day 1 lynches and its to short to lynch anyone anyway.

Japan plz dont be useless

[Old FM Libya]

Well i see many interesting things here and many not, anyway will stay in the background day 1, since I dont like day 1 lynches and its to short to lynch anyone anyway.

3 Reasons Why Your Post Might Be Scummy

An article by the Libyan National Government:

1) Your post contains a very biased point of view.

Nobody likes a fucking know-it-all. If you've got the time, try to make your post sound less scummier by removing all your personal opinions that do not contribute at all to finding the real scum, because it might actually hinder efforts in analyzing and stuff like background checks and crap.

2) Your post contains a false statement.

This makes you even scummier. 48 hours does not seem short to me, unless you're from outerspace and you're counting in Earth hours.... maybe 1 Nimmmsfdsf-japanese hour is 24 Earth hours? Who the hell knows and nobody cares. The point is, having a false statement or a ^^^^^ personal opinion gives you a thumbs down.

3) Your post sounds like you don't give a shit about the game and you're just going to lurk until everybody's trying to lynch you.

Libya will not tolerate these kinds of posting manners. Who says that you have the right to leave one retarded post and then leave for 12 hours, then you come back and you'll probably have to go by the time you read through the whole thread. NO. When you leave a post, at least quote one and give your response to it (in these your personal opinion is valid because it is contributing).

Therefore, Libya says that you must NOT post with at least one of these things in it. Make your posts respectful and responsive so that this game will be able to end quickly in Town victory. Help the United Nations to find the scummy corrupted un-democratic nations. Thank you for your cooperation, and may the United States of America burn in hell.

[Old FM Libya]

Japan plz dont be useless

My point. I want EVERYBODY to read Post #115 before posting something.

[Old FM Libya]

BTW. Too much trolling. We're wasting fucking time.

[Old FM Japan]

Well sry that i dont take day 1 srsl espacially, because of the posts, I aggree with Chinas opinion there:
Hey, so I come on to see a fuck full of shit.

So I am just going to stare at the screen and wait. Apparently day 1 is troll day for everyone. If people are going to do such thing I am not even gonna post.

I rather wait for everyone to be serious.

I think your post was the first helpful one here Lybia and np i wont lurk thought im actually 12 hours a day (except weekend) not here due to RL.^^

[Old FM China]

Post 115

Where's your vote on Japan then?

[Old FM Japan]

Oh and btw to your day 48 hours:

[COLOR="#FFFFFF"]
Day ends in in 24 hours at 6:00 PM PST, Thursday April 10. (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=April+10%2C+2014%2C+6%3A00+PM+PST)

[Old FM China]

I find that people who want to troll day 1 can do so to their hearts content.

BTW: sı ʇı ǝɹǝɥ os buıןןoɹʇ ʎɯ op oʇ ʇǝʎ ǝʌɐɥ ı

[Old FM China]

ǝbɐd ɐظıu ɐʎ ʞɔnɟ

[Old FM Mexico]

ǝbɐd ɐظıu ɐʎ ʞɔnɟ

¿ɹöuǝs sᴉɥʇ ǝʞᴉl ƃuᴉʞlɐʇ ǝʍ ǝɹɐ ʎɥʍ

[Old FM Libya]

Alright. Let us first examine this setup. It looks like there's 21 Town and MAX 8 mafia. I doubt that host would've put in 8 mafia for this setup (whether it be hand-picked or random). So therefore, FUCK THE MAFIA. Our primary concern shall be the Christians.

For the Mafia, we just have to try to make out how many Mafia there might be (expecting 5 or 6), and try to fill in the role gaps. A lot of possible roles here, so I expect everybody to suggest what role might have been put into the game (hand-picked AND random).... I'm hoping that everybody knows the host at least a little bit to guess the possible Mafia roles. I think it was said that this setup was used before, so people who have played it before, try to speak up and tell us what happened in that FM (if it is allowed) in detail and what the Host did..

OUR MAIN PROBLEM: What to expect in Hidden Anys. We have a bunch of people here. We will definitely not know how many Town there are, and therefore there is no possible way to know who's who (because of all the hidden Town and such). Our best bet is that there will be a bunch of citizens and that the Masons will recruit every last Citizen possible to make the Town vote stronger.

SECOND MAIN PROBLEM: Who the hell is cult and who the hell isn't? Oh shit, A sheriff caught a Mafia. Oh shit, now he's cult. NONE OF THAT SHIT. EVEN IF SOMEBODY KILLS OR LEAD LYNCHES A MAFIA / NEUTRAL, HE WILL STILL BE CONSIDERED A SUSPECT. Even yourself. This way the Mafia won't claim shit, and people won't use this as an excuse to get out of lynching and such. This will be the most effective way (in my thoughts) to eliminate suspects and find more Town (I don't know how we're going to do this).

The MASONS are our best hope! FUCK THE MAFIA, FIND THE NEUTRALS. Here is the order of importance: Getting our senses together and use the 48 hours wisely -> Find all the neutrals and eliminate them -> Find all the Mafia and eliminate them -> Double check for any more existing cult members -> Eliminate all existing cult members -> Random lynch a person to make sure everybody in the Cult is dead.

[Old FM Libya]

I find that people who want to troll day 1 can do so to their hearts content.

BTW: sı ʇı ǝɹǝɥ os buıןןoɹʇ ʎɯ op oʇ ʇǝʎ ǝʌɐɥ ı

Dude, fuck your shit, get yourself together, this is the real deal, this ain't your daily Necroplant Mafia. This ain't a leave train game. READ POST #115

[Old FM Mexico]

Alright. Let us first examine this setup. It looks like there's 21 Town and MAX 8 mafia. I doubt that host would've put in 8 mafia for this setup (whether it be hand-picked or random). So therefore, FUCK THE MAFIA. Our primary concern shall be the Christians.

For the Mafia, we just have to try to make out how many Mafia there might be (expecting 5 or 6), and try to fill in the role gaps. A lot of possible roles here, so I expect everybody to suggest what role might have been put into the game (hand-picked AND random).... I'm hoping that everybody knows the host at least a little bit to guess the possible Mafia roles. I think it was said that this setup was used before, so people who have played it before, try to speak up and tell us what happened in that FM (if it is allowed) in detail and what the Host did..

OUR MAIN PROBLEM: What to expect in Hidden Anys. We have a bunch of people here. We will definitely not know how many Town there are, and therefore there is no possible way to know who's who (because of all the hidden Town and such). Our best bet is that there will be a bunch of citizens and that the Masons will recruit every last Citizen possible to make the Town vote stronger.

SECOND MAIN PROBLEM: Who the hell is cult and who the hell isn't? Oh shit, A sheriff caught a Mafia. Oh shit, now he's cult. NONE OF THAT SHIT. EVEN IF SOMEBODY KILLS OR LEAD LYNCHES A MAFIA / NEUTRAL, HE WILL STILL BE CONSIDERED A SUSPECT. Even yourself. This way the Mafia won't claim shit, and people won't use this as an excuse to get out of lynching and such. This will be the most effective way (in my thoughts) to eliminate suspects and find more Town (I don't know how we're going to do this).

The MASONS are our best hope! FUCK THE MAFIA, FIND THE NEUTRALS. Here is the order of importance: Getting our senses together and use the 48 hours wisely -> Find all the neutrals and eliminate them -> Find all the Mafia and eliminate them -> Double check for any more existing cult members -> Eliminate all existing cult members -> Random lynch a person to make sure everybody in the Cult is dead.


Ignore our most organised enemy of the moment for a lesser organised enemy. How are we to act in that sense? As much as we would be split between factions, would not the more organised and functional scum faction still be a priority?

Hidden roles, I am more or less set on that we will get at least one shaman and one arsonist. Argue my logic with the doctor and unique role to meta of even bothering to add these rare settings to the setup.

Best way to get cult, is Citizen claimers and buddying, outside of the help of a sheriff and those who decide to stay neutral on all cases.


IN SHORT, EVIL ASIA

[Old FM China]

Dude, fuck your shit, get yourself together, this is the real deal, this ain't your daily Necroplant Mafia. This ain't a leave train game. READ POST #115

Post 119 moron?

@mexico:

ǝɯosʍɐ sı sıɥʇ ǝʞıן buıʞןɐʇ ǝsnɐɔǝq

[Old FM Japan]

Yeah I totally buddied with China, because I agreed with his opinion one time.^^

[Old FM Libya]

Where's your vote on Japan then?

You don't need a fucking vote on somebody. Right now, we don't need stupid votes.


Oh and btw to your day 48 hours:

1- Day and Night Length:

Days will last 48 hours at the beginning of the game. Night and day will always begin at the same time (24 or 48h mark), regardless of when a lynch occurs. After the game as progressed to 10 players or less, the day length may be lowered to 24 hours. If this is decided to happen, players will be notified the night prior.
Nights will always last 24 hours. All night actions are required to be in as late as 1 hour before night ends. They must be sent to either myself or Muninn.

Which post is correct? The day post or the setup?

[Old FM Mexico]

After reading setup, we are likely to have a Serial Killer because what do the sheriff do? he cannot see the neutrals and the killer can disguise, loads of red scum. sheriff also see the killer as green no matter disguise i think

oh and random question, if the cultists are christianity then what is the masons? satanists?

[Old FM China]

You don't need a fucking vote on somebody. Right now, we don't need stupid votes.


buıɥɔʇıq noʎ sı ǝǝs ı ןןɐ 'ǝʇoʌ pıdnʇs ɐ ǝuıɟǝp

[Old FM Libya]

Where's your vote on Japan then?



Ignore our most organised enemy of the moment for a lesser organised enemy. How are we to act in that sense? As much as we would be split between factions, would not the more organised and functional scum faction still be a priority?

Hidden roles, I am more or less set on that we will get at least one shaman and one arsonist. Argue my logic with the doctor and unique role to meta of even bothering to add these rare settings to the setup.

Best way to get cult, is Citizen claimers and buddying, outside of the help of a sheriff and those who decide to stay neutral on all cases.


IN SHORT, EVIL ASIA

1) Because the Cult can expand at any point in time, and no, the Cult is more organized than the Mafia. 1 Kill per night < 1 Vote gain every other night + New night actions. The cult is basically the Mafia but more powerful because of their recruit capability. Like I said, I expect 5~6 Mafia in this setup, but the Cult could start out with 2 or 3 and end up with 6 by Day 4. There's a minimum of a 1/34 chance that a Cult member will die tonight, which is VERY low. We can't risk a stronger Cult. The Mafia will basically stay the same throughout the game and probably kill one per night. The neutrals should be our focus at this point because the Mafia is powerless in this game until mid-game, when 1/3 of the Town is dead or converted into the Cult. Additionally, the Mafia might help us in lynching the evil neutrals. They don't have the vote power to lynch any evil neutral, and they need the Town's help to do so. They can't kill invulnerables, so basically they're going to rely on us and try to lead lynches.

2) I'm not going to argue with that.

3) I'm pretty sure that people getting converted into the Cult will try to be active. If a Sheriff was recruited in to the Cult, he still has his investigative powers. He could use it to act like he's Town, but will still vote with the Cult and will still win with the Cult. Not possible to lynch all the neutral people, we might lynch one of our own. We can't keep losing Town, besides the night kills.

[Old FM China]

Also, not voting someone is counterproductive really. You want productive? Vote someone, FOS someone, ask questions. Don't just sit there and be all whiny about it.

[Old FM Libya]

buıɥɔʇıq noʎ sı ǝǝs ı ןןɐ 'ǝʇoʌ pıdnʇs ɐ ǝuıɟǝp

If we want to win, we can't risk a random lynch. Night kills along with mislynches will slowly kill us. We simply cannot risk one vote against another that might get handed over to the Cult. A mislynch + Mafia kill + Arsonist douse + Serial killer kill + Cult vote = 4 votes from the Town lost, one at stake. 5 votes can be lost in one day. We have 21 town. We can't risk this. Which is why we need to target the neutrals and the Cult first. Preventing the cult from getting larger = +1 vote for the Town at a later point, and the fact that evil neutrals don't kill once they're dead. With the Mafia, even if we lynch one of the Mafia, they still kill and we lose a vote.

[Old FM Libya]

Also, not voting someone is counterproductive really. You want productive? Vote someone, FOS someone, ask questions. Don't just sit there and be all whiny about it.

Read the post above please. You're the one bitching about me actually trying to contribute and win the game. You're the one being counterproductive. Voting someone isn't going to get them blurting our their role. Scum slips are RARE. Everybody here isn't retarded. They're not going to fall for a little pressure. The evils probably know, and the Mafia probably know, that if we mislynch, its a + for them and not for us. The odds are that we will not lynch somebody that flips to be Mafia or an evil neutral, and even if we do, that's just lucky.

Maybe if you wait for somebody to actually post something and try to counter that argument or statement, then you can pressure them more, but Day 1 voting is just pointless.

[Old FM Argentina]

Alright. Let us first examine this setup. It looks like there's 21 Town and MAX 8 mafia. I doubt that host would've put in 8 mafia for this setup (whether it be hand-picked or random). So therefore, FUCK THE MAFIA. Our primary concern shall be the Christians.

For the Mafia, we just have to try to make out how many Mafia there might be (expecting 5 or 6), and try to fill in the role gaps. A lot of possible roles here, so I expect everybody to suggest what role might have been put into the game (hand-picked AND random).... I'm hoping that everybody knows the host at least a little bit to guess the possible Mafia roles. I think it was said that this setup was used before, so people who have played it before, try to speak up and tell us what happened in that FM (if it is allowed) in detail and what the Host did..

OUR MAIN PROBLEM: What to expect in Hidden Anys. We have a bunch of people here. We will definitely not know how many Town there are, and therefore there is no possible way to know who's who (because of all the hidden Town and such). Our best bet is that there will be a bunch of citizens and that the Masons will recruit every last Citizen possible to make the Town vote stronger.

SECOND MAIN PROBLEM: Who the hell is cult and who the hell isn't? Oh shit, A sheriff caught a Mafia. Oh shit, now he's cult. NONE OF THAT SHIT. EVEN IF SOMEBODY KILLS OR LEAD LYNCHES A MAFIA / NEUTRAL, HE WILL STILL BE CONSIDERED A SUSPECT. Even yourself. This way the Mafia won't claim shit, and people won't use this as an excuse to get out of lynching and such. This will be the most effective way (in my thoughts) to eliminate suspects and find more Town (I don't know how we're going to do this).

The MASONS are our best hope! FUCK THE MAFIA, FIND THE NEUTRALS. Here is the order of importance: Getting our senses together and use the 48 hours wisely -> Find all the neutrals and eliminate them -> Find all the Mafia and eliminate them -> Double check for any more existing cult members -> Eliminate all existing cult members -> Random lynch a person to make sure everybody in the Cult is dead.

I sense deception. El Señor Capitán Argentina sees the duplicitous nature of this post. Trying very hard to look useful but not really telling us anything.

Also the random lynching is completely unnecessary, if they cult leader is killed/lynched all but 1 cultist will die. We will know their exact number at that point. And while cult is possible WE DO NOT KNOW that cult is in this game until someone flips.

I fought your kind every dia of that war, Zemo! You mocked democracy and said that free men were weak! Well feel this grip, Zemo — it's the grip of a man who loves liberty! Look into the eyes of your foe, and know that he will die for his freedoms!

FM Libya This time I am El Serioso.

[Old FM Libya]

After reading setup, we are likely to have a Serial Killer because what do the sheriff do? he cannot see the neutrals and the killer can disguise, loads of red scum. sheriff also see the killer as green no matter disguise i think

oh and random question, if the cultists are christianity then what is the masons? satanists?

Which is why the Detectives and the Lookouts need to pay extra close attention.

[Old FM Mexico]

does it mean I can vote and FoS this guy for not contributing, lurking to the extreme and a single post? provoking avatar of nazi, mass caps. dunno if it is all coincidential prob a senör of plans but for being so obvious to glare at we end up ignoring, win win?

that is if we assume no one is a bad player




NEIN NEIN NEIN!

[Old FM Libya]

I sense deception. El Señor Capitán Argentina sees the duplicitous nature of this post. Trying very hard to look useful but not really telling us anything.

Also the random lynching is completely unnecessary, if they cult leader is killed/lynched all but 1 cultist will die. We will know their exact number at that point. And while cult is possible WE DO NOT KNOW that cult is in this game until someone flips.

I fought your kind every dia of that war, Zemo! You mocked democracy and said that free men were weak! Well feel this grip, Zemo — it's the grip of a man who loves liberty! Look into the eyes of your foe, and know that he will die for his freedoms!

FM Libya This time I am El Serioso.

So you sense deception. Where is the factual evidence of me being scum?

[Old FM Libya]

does it mean I can vote and FoS this guy for not contributing, lurking to the extreme and a single post? provoking avatar of nazi, mass caps. dunno if it is all coincidential prob a senör of plans but for being so obvious to glare at we end up ignoring, win win?

that is if we assume no one is a bad player


He hasn't posted enough for us to analyze yet.... unless you get a prophecy from three same consecutive words that has a reference to the German language..... then sure.

[Old FM Argentina]

You are trying your best to gather your town points day 1 with posts that seem helpful but don't tell us anything we don't know or inflate lesser problems. You are screaming bloody murder about how dangerous cult is as a means to take away towns power of the pressure vote and reducing the power of a town leader. Saying we can't risk a mislynch = voting someone without irrefutable evidence is scummy. "Can't follow a town leader because he is prime conversion target."

[Old FM Mexico]

He hasn't posted enough for us to analyze yet.... unless you get a prophecy from three same consecutive words that has a reference to the German language..... then sure.

well if we have no lead and the mob decide to lynch, then I prefer to hit a shovel on the least contributive person on our mark

[Old FM Libya]

You are trying your best to gather your town points day 1 with posts that seem helpful but don't tell us anything we don't know or inflate lesser problems. You are screaming bloody murder about how dangerous cult is as a means to take away towns power of the pressure vote and reducing the power of a town leader. Saying we can't risk a mislynch = voting someone without irrefutable evidence is scummy. "Can't follow a town leader because he is prime conversion target."

I never said that a town leader was the first and only conversion target. Read my post again..... I said that we can't risk the Cult getting larger, and possibly the Cult gaining more abilities and deceiving the Town even more. I don't give a shit about the pressure vote, it's just pointless to vote somebody that hasn't said anything or nearly anything, on Day 1.

[Old FM Libya]

well if we have no lead and the mob decide to lynch, then I prefer to hit a shovel on the least contributive person on our mark

I'd prefer that we wait until Day 2. Random lynching does us no good at all.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Which post is correct? The day post or the setup?

As stated in the signup thread, day 1 will only be 24 hours as it is just a check-in day.

[Forum Mafia GM]

oh and random question, if the cultists are christianity then what is the masons? satanists?

possibly pagans

[Old FM England]

I'd prefer that we wait until Day 2. Random lynching does us no good at all.

Come now, no lynching does us no good at all, not only do we then lose important associative reads, town members will get killed, culted, charged etc and we'll just go into D2 with almost the same information as D1 but with a weaker town. On the other hand we could lynch someone for being scummy, which isn't random it is based on logical deductions on behaviour, and use their flip to help catch scum. Do you think it is impossible to tell someone's alignment from how they act in thread? This question extends to everyone who thinks a D1 nl is a good idea.


You don't need a fucking vote on somebody. Right now, we don't need stupid votes.

I see.

FM Libya

Everyone in the thread should pick a side here or explain why none of this can be indicative of alignment.


3 Reasons Why Your Post Might Be Scummy

To clarify, can you explain whether or not you think his post is/isn't scummy because while your wall of text implies that you have a major problem with his post your refusal to vote him because it'd be a 'stupid vote' implies that it isn't.

I propose that we focus on catching all scum and not just look for cult/mafia tells. I dunno about you guys but I can do both.



Also, not voting someone is counterproductive really. You want productive? Vote someone, FOS someone, ask questions. Don't just sit there and be all whiny about it.

If Libya is being counterproduct then are they scummy and in which case why aren't you voting them?

[Old FM Norway]

Someone who is burning USA flag and then acts like a town leader... I doubt I can trust Libya right away.

[Old FM Norway]

Then again, I have never seen anything more SCUMMY than Germany's flag.

[Old FM Libya]

Come now, no lynching does us no good at all, not only do we then lose important associative reads, town members will get killed, culted, charged etc and we'll just go into D2 with almost the same information as D1 but with a weaker town. On the other hand we could lynch someone for being scummy, which isn't random it is based on logical deductions on behaviour, and use their flip to help catch scum. Do you think it is impossible to tell someone's alignment from how they act in thread? This question extends to everyone who thinks a D1 nl is a good idea.

I'm just saying, if we lose another town by random lynching on Day 1, the chances are its going to be a Town. As the host said: a "check-in" day.

[Old FM New Zealand]

Fear not! Shrek, king of sheep, has arrived.

I claim the lands of Iceland for myself and my sheep.

I demand a dozen sheep for personal lust reasons.


3 Reasons Why Your Post Might Be Scummy

An article by the Libyan National Government:

1) Your post contains a very biased point of view.

Nobody likes a fucking know-it-all. If you've got the time, try to make your post sound less scummier by removing all your personal opinions that do not contribute at all to finding the real scum, because it might actually hinder efforts in analyzing and stuff like background checks and crap.

2) Your post contains a false statement.

This makes you even scummier. 48 hours does not seem short to me, unless you're from outerspace and you're counting in Earth hours.... maybe 1 Nimmmsfdsf-japanese hour is 24 Earth hours? Who the hell knows and nobody cares. The point is, having a false statement or a ^^^^^ personal opinion gives you a thumbs down.

3) Your post sounds like you don't give a shit about the game and you're just going to lurk until everybody's trying to lynch you.

Libya will not tolerate these kinds of posting manners. Who says that you have the right to leave one retarded post and then leave for 12 hours, then you come back and you'll probably have to go by the time you read through the whole thread. NO. When you leave a post, at least quote one and give your response to it (in these your personal opinion is valid because it is contributing).

Therefore, Libya says that you must NOT post with at least one of these things in it. Make your posts respectful and responsive so that this game will be able to end quickly in Town victory. Help the United Nations to find the scummy corrupted un-democratic nations. Thank you for your cooperation, and may the United States of America burn in hell.
TL;DR: Fuck you, you don't tell me what to do.

[Old FM Libya]

I demand a dozen sheep for personal lust reasons.


TL;DR: Fuck you, you don't tell me what to do.

And fuck you. your flag combines England's flag and four misaligned stars. What the fuck.

[Old FM New Zealand]

Fear not! Shrek, king of sheep, has arrived.

I claim the lands of Iceland for myself and my sheep.


And fuck you. your flag combines England's flag and four misaligned stars. What the fuck.

Your fucking uncivilised citizens are burning a flag. Shame on fucking you.

[Old FM New Zealand]

Disregard multiquote.

[Old FM England]

NZ thoughts on the case on Libya?


I'm just saying, if we lose another town by random lynching on Day 1

This isn't random lynching though, we are voting for people who we think have acted suspicious, there's nothing "random" about that.

Check-in day is dumb btw but it's not like I can do anything about it.

[Old FM New Zealand]

NZ thoughts on the case on Libya?
I fully agree with your post in this quote:


Come now, no lynching does us no good at all, not only do we then lose important associative reads, town members will get killed, culted, charged etc and we'll just go into D2 with almost the same information as D1 but with a weaker town. On the other hand we could lynch someone for being scummy, which isn't random it is based on logical deductions on behaviour, and use their flip to help catch scum. Do you think it is impossible to tell someone's alignment from how they act in thread? This question extends to everyone who thinks a D1 nl is a good idea.



I see.

FM Libya

Everyone in the thread should pick a side here or explain why none of this can be indicative of alignment.



To clarify, can you explain whether or not you think his post is/isn't scummy because while your wall of text implies that you have a major problem with his post your refusal to vote him because it'd be a 'stupid vote' implies that it isn't.

I propose that we focus on catching all scum and not just look for cult/mafia tells. I dunno about you guys but I can do both.



If Libya is being counterproduct then are they scummy and in which case why aren't you voting them?

As such, well, can't hurt us to vote.

FM Lybia

[Old FM Germany]

Fuck america and fuck the communists. I propose a third alternative. A THIRD REICH!

Soviet russia
Usa

[Old FM England]

Germany RVS is over can you comment on the points against Libya please.

[Old FM England]

That extends to Norway as well actually.

[Old FM Germany]

Germany RVS is over can you comment on the points against Libya please.

Their only crime is freedom of speech, Which is something the communist scums don't have.

[Old FM Norway]

That extends to Norway as well actually.

Libya is actually the only one who tries to contibute something during Day 1. It's no surpise that this country is under such oppression right now.

The ones who oppress Libya are mostly trolls, but I suspect scum behind that oppression as well.

[Old FM New Zealand]

Libya is actually the only one who tries to contibute something during Day 1. It's no surpise that this country is under such oppression right now.

The ones who oppress Libya are mostly trolls, but I suspect scum behind that oppression as well.

That one screams scum because England has contributed too, just to name one movement against Libya.. How can you ignore that fact?

[Old FM Norway]

Well I have only noticed Libya actually trying to lead the town.

[Old FM Norway]

Oh, I have a really good question for all of you.

If World War III between USA and Russia would began, which side you would take? I want each of you to try and answer that question.

[Old FM Sweden]

Libya is actually the only one who tries to contibute something during Day 1. It's no surpise that this country is under such oppression right now.

The ones who oppress Libya are mostly trolls, but I suspect scum behind that oppression as well.

Libya's contribution is telling people off for not being completely serious, pushing away from voting anyone and overemphasizing the potential cult. I dunno about you but those aren't high town points to me.
Some of the times when Libya is challenged he just says go read my post again, which is also iffy.
Other than that Libya has been a normal FM player today. I wouldn't go so far as to say Libya is the only one trying.
More like Liyba is the only one overtrying

[Old FM New Zealand]

Oh, I have a really good question for all of you.

If World War III between USA and Russia would began, which side you would take? I want each of you to try and answer that question.
I don't care about fucking either of them. Although maybe Russia would be a nice drunk fuck.

[Old FM Sweden]

That one screams scum because England has contributed too, just to name one movement against Libya.. How can you ignore that fact?

How does that make sense?
All England has done is reply to Libya without presenting her own theories or positioning. Please xplain

[Old FM New Zealand]

How does that make sense?
All England has done is reply to Libya without presenting her own theories or positioning. Please xplain

England has openly pointed out his stance against Libya and presented arguments. Pls think moar fucker

[Old FM Libya]

I fully agree with your post in this quote:



As such, well, can't hurt us to vote.

FM Lybia

Have you read my counterargument? Of course you haven't. Cause you're a retard.

[Old FM Libya]

Sweden has a fucking brain. How did England's argument counter mine?

[Old FM New Zealand]

Have you read my counterargument? Of course you haven't. Cause you're a retard.

Cool stuff, assuming shit n shit. Not bad. Talk less shit.

[Old FM Norway]

Don't listen to New Zealand, he is just a vassal country for England.

[Old FM New Zealand]

Don't listen to New Zealand, he is just a vassal country for England.

Zzzzzz. I hate England. Truf. Pls take me in guise.

[Old FM Mexico]

Zzzzzz. I hate England. Truf. Pls take me in guise.

You hate England.
Your flag have four stars.
Suspiciously looking like a jesus cross.
It was the mother land of long time ago.
England were quite a christianity world.
Ergo, you hate yourself and christianity.
You're a satanist.

[Old FM New Zealand]

You hate England.
Your flag have four stars.
Suspiciously looking like a jesus cross.
It was the mother land of long time ago.
England were quite a christianity world.
Ergo, you hate yourself and christianity.
You're a satanist.
I'm actually a masochist.

[Old FM Argentina]

Well I have only noticed Libya actually trying to lead the town.

Leading town in a direction that weakens it.

[Old FM Argentina]

Fact is, because of this lynch on Libya we are getting useful information in terms of allegiances and inter-country arguments which we would not have gotten if we had taken Libya advice and refrained from pushing a day one lynch.

The fact that we are able to lynch day one means we can use this first day to learn. Ignoring it just hands a night action to scum.

[Old FM Libya]

Leading town in a direction that weakens it.

There is no other plan, there are fucking trolls like you giving the town a disadvantage, targeting me on Day 1 when you could be trying to improve what we should be doing. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE DIRECTION I'M GOING, REVISE IT. Don't just stand there and fucking watch and flame.

[Old FM New Zealand]

There is no other plan, there are fucking trolls like you giving the town a disadvantage, targeting me on Day 1 when you could be trying to improve what we should be doing. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE DIRECTION I'M GOING, REVISE IT. Don't just stand there and fucking watch and flame.

Revise it? That's what we've been fucking doing, you shitter. Go back to your corner.

[Old FM Libya]

Fact is, because of this lynch on Libya we are getting useful information in terms of allegiances and inter-country arguments which we would not have gotten if we had taken Libya advice and refrained from pushing a day one lynch.

The fact that we are able to lynch day one means we can use this first day to learn. Ignoring it just hands a night action to scum.

And making a mislynch gives the Town one less vote. Your point? At least 4 people will die / join Cult every night / every other night. One more to that? 16/21 Town left. Next? Let's say 4 people die the next night and no mislynches. 12/21 Town left. We will lose if we mislynch this day. Your point?

[Old FM Libya]

Revise it? That's what we've been fucking doing, you shitter. Go back to your corner.

I don't see a FUCKING WALL OF TEXT except for all your flame.

[Old FM New Zealand]

I don't see a FUCKING WALL OF TEXT except for all your flame.

Are you fucking serious? LMAO

[Old FM Saudi Arabia]

I'm in a position where I cannot make a huge wall of text explaining my views on this, so I apologize for the short nature of my post here.

But a few things I noticed as I read through
1) Libya don't go pointing the finger at others for flaming when you're doing so yourself. Honestly, the hypocritical nature of you spewing "fuck" all around is humorous, in addition to ironic.
2) This whole original topic, if you ask me, is irrelevant at this point. That isn't being discussed as much as "UMG LIBYA IS WRONG" "UMG NO FUK U UR WRONG" That's all I'm seeing at this point.
3) However, looking at the original topic, it would be a smart idea to nip Cult in the bug, but trying to theorize ideas I don't think is a good option. The only way that information would ever come into handy is if we find mafian scum and the christian cult at the same time and have to choose who to lynch. Otherwise, it's meaningless speculation if you ask me. So my stance on the matter is that it honestly doesn't matter. However, I think the pressure it has caused is good, as any pressure and argument is good, but it at this point has turned completely off topic from the game and has turned into people flaming each other as much as they can.

This is my observation of the matter, and I understand how this is stirring up meaningful conversation, but this has little to nothing to do with the original topic if you ask me.

[Old FM Greenland]

A Royal Proclammation has been issued to the country of Libya!

You're partially right and partially wrong. The fact that we have a 24 hour lynch day means it's highly likely we would end up mislynching today. Not enough time to discuss and let the game evolve, anyone who wants to lynch has to join a lightning bandwagon with the mafia being able to coordinate.

HOWEVER, one of the most useful tools we have is vote train analysis. For those who haven't tried it out before, vote train analyzing can actually reveal a lot. We can place votes without having to lynch today, but even that ends up revealing a lot later down the line. No duh we don't want to accidentally mislynch, but one of our greatest powers is both lynching AND observing how lynches came to occur.

Pressure votes are very informative, don't go discouraging those.

This message brought to you by Royal Shearer #1, as dictated by Shrek the Sheep on the morning of our glorious Woolpril the 10th.

[Old FM Greenland]

His Highness the Most Wooly will now hold audience for the day

[Old FM Mexico]

Suggest vote analysis when majority of all votes are just troll.

[Old FM New Zealand]

Votes so far:

FM Libya (3 [L-15]):
FM Argentina, FM Egypt, FM England

FM USA (4 [L-14]):
FM Poland, FM South Korea, FM China, FM Saudi Arabia

FM New Zealand (1 [L-17]):
FM Canada

FM Cyprus (1 [L-17]):
FM France

FM China (1 [L-17]):
FM Ireland

FM Norway (1 [L-17]):
FM Greenland


Suggest vote analysis when majority of all votes are just troll.
It would be best if you assume less shit. Yes, the people who are alone with casting their vote on someone shouldn't be taken too seriously, but nothing can be dismissed and especially the bigger trains are noteworthy.

[Old FM Japan]

A Royal Proclammation has been issued to the country of Libya!

You're partially right and partially wrong. The fact that we have a 24 hour lynch day means it's highly likely we would end up mislynching today. Not enough time to discuss and let the game evolve, anyone who wants to lynch has to join a lightning bandwagon with the mafia being able to coordinate.

HOWEVER, one of the most useful tools we have is vote train analysis. For those who haven't tried it out before, vote train analyzing can actually reveal a lot. We can place votes without having to lynch today, but even that ends up revealing a lot later down the line. No duh we don't want to accidentally mislynch, but one of our greatest powers is both lynching AND observing how lynches came to occur.

Pressure votes are very informative, don't go discouraging those.

This message brought to you by Royal Shearer #1, as dictated by Shrek the Sheep on the morning of our glorious Woolpril the 10th.

I need to admit its interesting how fast the votes on Libya and Usa went, self if some of them are troll votes, their could still be scum behind it.

[Old FM Mexico]

Los Avengadores Assembelisimo!


It is I, Señor Capitán Argentina. I have already solved this el gameo. I quick altavista search of "Nordic Countries" revealed that FM Norway, FM Sweden and FM Greenland are Viking Invaders. The forth member is obviously FM Latveria, could anyone other than Victor von Doom be Ragnar Lodbrok?

FM Norway



Hey everyone, you can call me Tom. I'm looking for my good friend Jerry.

A quick read through has revealed this!



Pakistan is confessing to a role that wins on it's own! Get him boys....
FM Pakistan




Oh hey look, I found a neutral. 8D

And look, more people saw that! 8D

Maybe I'll get lynch happy!

FM Pakistan




I declare war on FM Libya and demand they surrender all lands east of and including Banghazi. Our troops have begun gathering on the border and we will invade at midnight. We will be taking our time to destroy homes in our wake. If we can't use it no one can.

You have 6.5 hours.




With all the civil unrest in your country right now? I think not. But damn nigga, u bootiful, let me get dat booty.

On a more serious note, here is a random pressure vote to get someone to talk even though they probably won't anyways considering most people, even when there is a lynch, tend to troll on this day. But hey, worth a try.

FM New Zealand



FM Turkey

Serious vote. This guy is scum.




Damn, Canada has gone a whole two posts without apologizing. Canada is obviously scum.

FM Pakistan
FM Canada




FM CYPRUS
THIS SEXY MAN IS TOO DANGEROUS TO BE LEFT ALIVE. HE WILL SEDUCE US INTO HIS TRAP!





skip





Also FM China

Take out China and there goes a lot of the population :)




Nah, I'm executioner and my target is USA.

They owe us too much now everyone sheep me so I can get ez win.

FM USA




FM USA



*votes china because of imagined racial superiority*

-FM China




It seems Jerry is hiding, maybe a little pressure will force him out?

FM USA





What's that queen Horny? Vikings are from Scandinavia?

We must stop the sexy human!

FM Norway





GREENLAND HUN I SHALL BOUNCE ON YOU IT SHALL BE THE SPECTACLE OF THE WORLD!

(just let me go blow up America)
FM USA



I sense deception. El Señor Capitán Argentina sees the duplicitous nature of this post. Trying very hard to look useful but not really telling us anything.

Also the random lynching is completely unnecessary, if they cult leader is killed/lynched all but 1 cultist will die. We will know their exact number at that point. And while cult is possible WE DO NOT KNOW that cult is in this game until someone flips.

I fought your kind every dia of that war, Zemo! You mocked democracy and said that free men were weak! Well feel this grip, Zemo — it's the grip of a man who loves liberty! Look into the eyes of your foe, and know that he will die for his freedoms!

FM Libya This time I am El Serioso.




Come now, no lynching does us no good at all, not only do we then lose important associative reads, town members will get killed, culted, charged etc and we'll just go into D2 with almost the same information as D1 but with a weaker town. On the other hand we could lynch someone for being scummy, which isn't random it is based on logical deductions on behaviour, and use their flip to help catch scum. Do you think it is impossible to tell someone's alignment from how they act in thread? This question extends to everyone who thinks a D1 nl is a good idea.



I see.

FM Libya

Everyone in the thread should pick a side here or explain why none of this can be indicative of alignment.



To clarify, can you explain whether or not you think his post is/isn't scummy because while your wall of text implies that you have a major problem with his post your refusal to vote him because it'd be a 'stupid vote' implies that it isn't.

I propose that we focus on catching all scum and not just look for cult/mafia tells. I dunno about you guys but I can do both.



If Libya is being counterproduct then are they scummy and in which case why aren't you voting them?



I fully agree with your post in this quote:



As such, well, can't hurt us to vote.

FM Lybia




Fuck america and fuck the communists. I propose a third alternative. A THIRD REICH!

Soviet russia
Usa


Enjoy, le tot senörita tast.

[Old FM Cyprus]

And I thought I'm more brawn and less brain. Seems like I'm still considered blessed in the intelligence department compared to some.


So you sense deception. Where is the factual evidence of me being scum?

Since nobody answered it, I'll provide the factual evidence, obviously to earn myself some town points.


Alright. Let us first examine this setup. It looks like there's 21 Town and MAX 8 mafia. I doubt that host would've put in 8 mafia for this setup (whether it be hand-picked or random). So therefore, FUCK THE MAFIA. Our primary concern shall be the Christians.

Max starting mafia is 13 (4 reds, 4 teals, 5 whites). Max starting cult is 1.


For the Mafia, we just have to try to make out how many Mafia there might be (expecting 5 or 6), and try to fill in the role gaps. A lot of possible roles here, so I expect everybody to suggest what role might have been put into the game (hand-picked AND random).... I'm hoping that everybody knows the host at least a little bit to guess the possible Mafia roles. I think it was said that this setup was used before, so people who have played it before, try to speak up and tell us what happened in that FM (if it is allowed) in detail and what the Host did..

I'm bad at guessing. I assume your intention is for us to make counterplans but you didn't say it. Thus makes me suspect that you are trying to waste our time.


OUR MAIN PROBLEM: What to expect in Hidden Anys. We have a bunch of people here. We will definitely not know how many Town there are, and therefore there is no possible way to know who's who (because of all the hidden Town and such). Our best bet is that there will be a bunch of citizens and that the Masons will recruit every last Citizen possible to make the Town vote stronger.

Give or take 5 towns. No big deal. I guess you are not Mason Leader.


SECOND MAIN PROBLEM: Who the hell is cult and who the hell isn't? Oh shit, A sheriff caught a Mafia. Oh shit, now he's cult. NONE OF THAT SHIT. EVEN IF SOMEBODY KILLS OR LEAD LYNCHES A MAFIA / NEUTRAL, HE WILL STILL BE CONSIDERED A SUSPECT. Even yourself. This way the Mafia won't claim shit, and people won't use this as an excuse to get out of lynching and such. This will be the most effective way (in my thoughts) to eliminate suspects and find more Town (I don't know how we're going to do this).

First time playing a game with cult?


The MASONS are our best hope! FUCK THE MAFIA, FIND THE NEUTRALS. Here is the order of importance: Getting our senses together and use the 48 hours wisely -> Find all the neutrals and eliminate them -> Find all the Mafia and eliminate them -> Double check for any more existing cult members -> Eliminate all existing cult members -> Random lynch a person to make sure everybody in the Cult is dead.

Sowing discord so that benign neutrals won't side with town I see. Why not lynch cult leader instead and all but one cult will die?

[Old FM Japan]

The vote from germany didnt count btw.

[Old FM Greenland]

Ah, my first subject!


Los Avengadores Assembelisimo!


It is I, Señor Capitán Argentina. I have already solved this el gameo. I quick altavista search of "Nordic Countries" revealed that FM Norway, FM Sweden and FM Greenland are Viking Invaders. The forth member is obviously FM Latveria, could anyone other than Victor von Doom be Ragnar Lodbrok?

FM Norway

How dare you accuse his Royal Highness, from which all luxury clothing flows! What say you now that the Sun has traversed the world, on the countries that are USA and China. How does South Korea sit in the picture?

Ah, another subject has strolled into my audience chamber!


*votes china because of imagined racial superiority*

-FM China

Good sir, why dost thou toss suspicion on one whom accused thee thus? Ignoring pressure AND knee jerk voting China in return? Jokes on you, I like China. Your behavior has been noted, and a Royal Advisor has been assigned to watch you closely.

Ah, another loyal subject!


CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!

Her Holiness Queen Horny thanks you for the threeway, which she pleasantly enjoyed last night. You may make a request of his Most Holy and Wooly (but not Holey) before the day ends.

Ah, another subject! My does my wool bring all the boys to the audience chamber indeed!


GREENLAND HUN I SHALL BOUNCE ON YOU IT SHALL BE THE SPECTACLE OF THE WORLD!

(just let me go blow up America)
FM USA

Sir, do you acknowledge RVS has ended? Is your vote on USA for pressure or reactions, because I shall judge you based on your answer.

Subject number 5, keep them rolling in Royal Advisor!


Well i see many interesting things here and many not, anyway will stay in the background day 1, since I dont like day 1 lynches and its to short to lynch anyone anyway.

Good sir, will you not even place a vote? I have a question for you, are you in fact the leader of the supposed Christian Church?!

Ah, what subject is yelling off in the distance? Squire, fetch me my hearing horn-aid!



Ignore our most organised enemy of the moment for a lesser organised enemy. How are we to act in that sense? As much as we would be split between factions, would not the more organised and functional scum faction still be a priority?

Hidden roles, I am more or less set on that we will get at least one shaman and one arsonist. Argue my logic with the doctor and unique role to meta of even bothering to add these rare settings to the setup.

Best way to get cult, is Citizen claimers and buddying, outside of the help of a sheriff and those who decide to stay neutral on all cases.


IN SHORT, EVIL ASIA

Sir, have you pointed fingers without pointing thy sword? Allow me to show how it is done. FM Mexico

Sir, another subject has arrived!


Also, not voting someone is counterproductive really. You want productive? Vote someone, FOS someone, ask questions. Don't just sit there and be all whiny about it.

His Lord Wool agrees with this statement, and asks that everyone respect the opinions of he who has a Great Wall. Seriously though, that guy's huge.

Sir, this man has requested an audience!


I demand a dozen sheep for personal lust reasons.


TL;DR: Fuck you, you don't tell me what to do.

Ah, my old homeland. New Zealand, explain your views on Mexico and China, and I may grant you your wishes.

[Old FM New Zealand]

Enjoy, le tot senörita tast.

Ohh sheeiit, I got outdone. Props to you Mexico. You can go back to sleep, it's noon, you know.

[Old FM Cyprus]

I think Libya is full of ill-intentions but I'm afraid to vote him.

[Old FM Mexico]

Sir, have you pointed fingers without pointing thy sword? Allow me to show how it is done. FM Mexico

Are you making any logical sense out of this vote? What exactly is the vote targeted on? I fail to see it, so I'm asking.

[Old FM Greenland]

Suggest vote analysis when majority of all votes are just troll.

Good sir, dost thou cast suspicion on one of our greatest tools? It's one more way to analyze the game and its players to build our reads.

Look at the largest wagon right now for example:

FM USA (4 [L-14]):
FM Poland, FM South Korea, FM China, FM Saudi Arabia

We can already determine there's a VERY high chance USA and Saudi Arabia are unaligned, and to a less confident extent that USA and China are unaligned.

Additionally, should USA flip mafia later in the game I would consider all 4 of these countries town. Should USA flip town, I would expect at least 1 mafia on this wagon.

That said, unaligned can mean mafia/cult/evil neutral as possible alignments, but it's still useful.

[Old FM New Zealand]

Ah, my old homeland. New Zealand, explain your views on Mexico and China, and I may grant you your wishes.

Alright, so.. Mexico has a kind of low actual content to post ratio if I'm judging that right (which is not surprising D1), and when he does say something it isn't dumb at all, but I get a feeling he is kind of careful about his choice of words. Just a vibe I'd say.

China seems like an experienced player, not much else to say about him as of now.

[Old FM New Zealand]

I think Libya is full of ill-intentions but I'm afraid to vote him.

Do you want to get slapped?

Because that's how you get slapped.

[Old FM Mexico]

Good sir, dost thou cast suspicion on one of our greatest tools? It's one more way to analyze the game and its players to build our reads.

Look at the largest wagon right now for example:

FM USA (4 [L-14]):
FM Poland, FM South Korea, FM China, FM Saudi Arabia

We can already determine there's a VERY high chance USA and Saudi Arabia are unaligned, and to a less confident extent that USA and China are unaligned.

Additionally, should USA flip mafia later in the game I would consider all 4 of these countries town. Should USA flip town, I would expect at least 1 mafia on this wagon.

That said, unaligned can mean mafia/cult/evil neutral as possible alignments, but it's still useful.

X drops dead and reveals Y as the holy alignment.

Yes, that's a true vote analysis. Flaw? It's day one. What if it's actually a bunch of players just plainly sheeping regardless of their own faction? Let that sink a moment. No one have a clue to anything and how common is it to troll-sheep lynch day one if the players want a lynch?

This argument goes to "unaligned" and "if they vote him, they're not same faction".

[Old FM Greenland]

I need to admit its interesting how fast the votes on Libya and Usa went, self if some of them are troll votes, their could still be scum behind it.

I consider most Day 1 single votes troll votes, but they elicit interesting reactions sometimes, or else why use them at all.


I think Libya is full of ill-intentions but I'm afraid to vote him.

Are you asking for permission to vote him?


Are you making any logical sense out of this vote? What exactly is the vote targeted on? I fail to see it, so I'm asking.

Firstly, because you called him evil and did not vote him. Evidently your words bear some emptiness to them.
Secondly, because you are here right now and I wanted to see how you reacted. Reaction provided

His Lord Wool must attend to Queen Horny, but shall return before the Sun reaches the horizon.

[Old FM New Zealand]

Good sir, dost thou cast suspicion on one of our greatest tools? It's one more way to analyze the game and its players to build our reads.

Look at the largest wagon right now for example:

FM USA (4 [L-14]):
FM Poland, FM South Korea, FM China, FM Saudi Arabia

We can already determine there's a VERY high chance USA and Saudi Arabia are unaligned, and to a less confident extent that USA and China are unaligned.

Additionally, should USA flip mafia later in the game I would consider all 4 of these countries town. Should USA flip town, I would expect at least 1 mafia on this wagon.

That said, unaligned can mean mafia/cult/evil neutral as possible alignments, but it's still useful.

I'd argue the opposite and say that Saudi Arabia and USA could very well be aligned and this is an attempt at bussing, for the reason being that a Day 1 lynch is hard to go through with if it isn't based on a serious case. But the context in which Saudi Arabia has casted his vote was rather jokingly, which is why his vote doesn't say much about his alignment for the moment.

[Old FM New Zealand]

X drops dead and reveals Y as the holy alignment.

Yes, that's a true vote analysis. Flaw? It's day one. What if it's actually a bunch of players just plainly sheeping regardless of their own faction? Let that sink a moment. No one have a clue to anything and how common is it to troll-sheep lynch day one if the players want a lynch?

This argument goes to "unaligned" and "if they vote him, they're not same faction".

Your flaw? Dismissing day 1 votes because it's only day 1. You can't base a vote analysis on a small sample size. Or any analysis, for that matter.

[Old FM Italy]

I'd argue that trying to tell people's alignments purely from day 1 votes is an exercise in futility due to the fact that only the mafia know who each other are anyway. Town voting town is actually more likely than mafia voting town. Mafia voting Mafia could also easily happen since they won't expect any real lynches today and may wish to try and separate themselves from each other by casting votes on their allies so that they might use it as evidence of unalignment later.

Really, everyone should feel free to FoS and vote away today, but don't expect anything to be concrete evidence until we've gathered more information, in future days.

A lynch today has the highest probability of hitting town of any possible lynch in this game, and may only serve to cast doubt upon the alignments of a majority town train.

[Old FM Cyprus]

Are you asking for permission to vote him?

Whose permission?

[Old FM Italy]

Whose permission?

Mine, of course.

I hereby grant you full leave to vote anyone for whatever reason you wish during the course of this game.

No need to thank me, I'm just doing what is right.

[Old FM New Zealand]

DECLARATION OF WAR

New Zealand declares war against Italy.

REASON OF DECLARATION

The attempt to overtake Greenland's authority.

INVASION WILL COMMENCE SHORTLY

[Old FM Mexico]

Mine, of course.

I hereby grant you full leave to vote anyone for whatever reason you wish during the course of this game.

No need to thank me, I'm just doing what is right.

I disagree. Asking someone to vote for anyone for whatever reason is not the right thing to do. It's like telling a psychopath to do whatever he wants because you shouldn't stop him, encouraging him to kill that puppy kitten senör who had nothing to do with the thing.

For this reason, you are a blind venus.

[Old FM Italy]

DECLARATION OF WAR

New Zealand declares war against Italy.

REASON OF DECLARATION

The attempt to overtake Greenland's authority.

INVASION WILL COMMENCE SHORTLY

Greenland is but a pretender to the throne! I am the one true authority here. It's sad you've allowed him to pull his wool over your eyes so soon and so easily.

Cast off your blindness, and see the truth!


I disagree. Asking someone to vote for anyone for whatever reason is not the right thing to do. It's like telling a psychopath to do whatever he wants because you shouldn't stop him, encouraging him to kill that puppy kitten senör who had nothing to do with the thing.

For this reason, you are a blind venus.

In real life, perhaps, it may not be the best idea to give someone permission to kill at will.

In this game, I am not giving permission to kill, merely to vote. I ask him to do his civic duty and help purify our glorious town by casting his vote upon the dark and dismal tumors of society. His votes give us information whether he be town or he be mafia, or even neutral. Really, I give him permission only to help inform the town.

[Old FM New Zealand]

Greenland is but a pretender to the throne! I am the one true authority here. It's sad you've allowed him to pull his wool over your eyes so soon and so easily.

Cast off your blindness, and see the truth!

Only he, who is the true successor to the throne, is in posession of such an enormous amount of sheep.

Also, I like them a lot. This may or may not play into this play of powers. WAIT. I mean. Greenland is the true successor!

[Old FM South Korea]

As much as I appreciate Libya picking up the slack and putting effort into the game, I'd prefer it if I led the Town, thanks.

FM Libya

[Old FM South Korea]

If Town wants to attempt to countertrain this Mafia lynch train, vote FM Japan.

He cares too much about the vote count for someone who claims he doesn't take Day 1 seriously. Even though I'll regret bussing my own teammate, he would have been caught anyways.

[Old FM Sweden]

Cyprus baby, I'm afraid I zoned out while staring at your chest. You're just too sexy.
I will say that day one lunches aren't worth it. The history of FM games show that day one lynches are almost exclusively on town members. So I'm not cool with that. Let's talk about The fact that Libya is clearly smart and holds back in his posts ;)

[Old FM Sweden]

As much as I appreciate Libya picking up the slack and putting effort into the game, I'd prefer it if I led the Town, thanks.

FM Libya


If Town wants to attempt to countertrain this Mafia lynch train, vote FM Japan.

He cares too much about the vote count for someone who claims he doesn't take Day 1 seriously. Even though I'll regret bussing my own teammate, he would have been caught anyways.
Tell me something. Why did you contradict you own post/vote?

[Old FM Japan]

If Town wants to attempt to countertrain this Mafia lynch train, vote FM Japan.

He cares too much about the vote count for someone who claims he doesn't take Day 1 seriously. Even though I'll regret bussing my own teammate, he would have been caught anyways.

Well, Im just saying anything if you havent noticed, since someone (Libya) meant that I lurk to much lol. As if someone would take this seriously.^^

[Old FM South Korea]

Tell me something. Why did you contradict you own post/vote?

I'm torn between mislynching Libya to remove a strong Town presence and bussing FM Japan for Town cred.


Well, Im just saying anything if you havent noticed, since someone (Libya) meant that I lurk to much lol. As if someone would take this seriously.^^

I'm saving this post for when you get lynched at the end of the day.

[Old FM Japan]

Tell me something. Why did you contradict you own post/vote?

And this lol, votes for libya then says counter this mafia lynch train to lynch me.

[Old FM South Korea]

It's a sad day for FM's when people don't read the entire post, but only the vote/FoSes.

[Old FM Japan]

I'm torn between mislynching Libya to remove a strong Town presence and bussing FM Japan for Mafia cred.

I'm saving this post for when you get lynched at the end of the day.

Do what you want, but just to join then fun. FM South Korea

[Old FM Saudi Arabia]

Sir, do you acknowledge RVS has ended? Is your vote on USA for pressure or reactions, because I shall judge you based on your answer.Just answering this before I continue catching up. I'm not aware of what all that you're saying in this, but I did it purely for the troll 9/11 jokes. (I think Saudi Arabia was the one who launched that attack? My geography skills suck). But I don't think USA himself as suspicious.

unvote
Now that this is actually somewhat real and not just a trolling thread for day one, I should probably unvote here. A random lynch at this point would be awful, as chances are it's town that's going to be lynched.

Now to read more of what I missed.

[Old FM South Korea]

Look at him struggling and falling apart.

If you threw out a semi-convincing role claim, you might survive today.

[Old FM Japan]

Look at him struggling and falling apart.

If you threw out a semi-convincing role claim, you might survive today.

Yeah talk more will, just confirm more that you are scum, the question for role claim 8 hours before day end isnt suspiciounes at all.

[Old FM South Korea]

You know, when I first voted you, all I had to bus you with was that you cared too much about the way votes were going after you said you didn't take Day 1 seriously (twice for emphasis).

In the next four posts you have:
-posted immediately when I voted you despite a gap period between that post and your last post
-attempted to counterpush on me

All this without me having to put a single vote on you.

[Old FM New Zealand]

You know, when I first voted you, all I had to bus you with was that you cared too much about the way votes were going after you said you didn't take Day 1 seriously (twice for emphasis).

In the next four posts you have:
-posted immediately when I voted you despite a gap period between that post and your last post
-attempted to counterpush on me

All this without me having to put a single vote on you.

It's not bad, not bad at all. Kind of impressive, actually. I mean Japan's accomplishment.

[Old FM Japan]

You know, when I first voted you, all I had to bus you with was that you cared too much about the way votes were going after you said you didn't take Day 1 seriously (twice for emphasis).

In the next four posts you have:
-posted immediately when I voted you despite a gap period between that post and your last post
-attempted to counterpush on me

All this without me having to put a single vote on you.

Well, i take activ part in the game if you havent noticed it and if I see someone who joins a "mafia lynch train" (self claimed) and says that everyone else should go for me. Im sure interested in that person, there it doesnt play a great role if we have day 1 or day 6.

[Old FM South Korea]

FM Japan

One idea, one heart, one mind, one determination

[Old FM South Korea]

Going out for lunch.

[Old FM Mexico]

It's not bad, not bad at all. Kind of impressive, actually. I mean Japan's accomplishment.


FM Japan

One idea, one heart, one mind, one determination

Am I the only one reading these two together?

[Old FM Sweden]

As much as I appreciate Libya picking up the slack and putting effort into the game, I'd prefer it if I led the Town, thanks.

FM Libya


Am I the only one reading these two together?
That's Koreas goal

[Old FM New Zealand]

You guys can read me together any time of the day. ;)

But yeah, I make it known who I stand on the same side with.

[Old FM Italy]

You guys can read me together any time of the day. ;)

But yeah, I make it known who I stand on the same side with.

And I thank you for your loyal service. ^.^

[Old FM New Zealand]

And I thank you for your loyal service. ^.^

Gawd Italy, you are, like, such a narcissic bitch. Like Oh My God, I can't believe you are stealing all the credit for everything! Total bitch.

[Old FM England]

The ones who oppress Libya are mostly trolls, but I suspect scum behind that oppression as well.

Which arguments made against Libya indicate scum and why?


All England has done is reply to Libya without presenting her own theories or positioning.

Sweden, my dear, how is it that you have not interpreted my theories or position from my actions? I believe I have argued a fair case against D1 no lynching as well as solidified on my stance on Libya's actions through my vote and on how we should try to find anti-town.


How did England's argument counter mine?

I believe I have made a reasonable presentation of how the serious votes placed now are not people trying to lynch randomly.

#177 is a good post. Libya failed to address said good post explaining why his stance is right.

#203 is a bad post. It states the obvious many a time (town can vote town, mafia can vote mafia, nothing concrete will come from D1) and doesn't really add anything new to the argument at hand, and while he says people can FoS all they like, he himself refrains from doing so.

I have estabilished a couple of townreads, unsure of Japan though.

Libya > Italy > Japan

[Old FM Italy]

Which arguments made against Libya indicate scum and why?



Sweden, my dear, how is it that you have not interpreted my theories or position from my actions? I believe I have argued a fair case against D1 no lynching as well as solidified on my stance on Libya's actions through my vote and on how we should try to find anti-town.



I believe I have made a reasonable presentation of how the serious votes placed now are not people trying to lynch randomly.

#177 is a good post. Libya failed to address said good post explaining why his stance is right.

#203 is a bad post. It states the obvious many a time (town can vote town, mafia can vote mafia, nothing concrete will come from D1) and doesn't really add anything new to the argument at hand, and while he says people can FoS all they like, he himself refrains from doing so.

I have estabilished a couple of townreads, unsure of Japan though.

Libya > Italy > Japan

I'll FoS when I have a real one to go on.

For now all I really have is that I like where South Korea is goin' with this Japan thing.

If I had to pick someone right now to get lynched, it'd be Japan. It's interesting that he's trying to use Korea's obviously-intentional scum claim and lynch swap as evidence to discredit Korea. He's defensive already. I still don't think lynching on Day 1 is necessarily the best idea, though.

[Old FM Pakistan]

Just got home from work - this is my first post from my pc.. the rest were from my phone at work. Needless to say, I'm exhausted and too tired to read/analyze all the stupidity from day 1. I don't see any band wagons going at the moment so I'll just head to bed.

If a wagon starts, don't count on me for a vote - day will end before I wake up (I hope... I haven't another long work night/morning tonight)

[Old FM Cyprus]

Thanks for the permission!

FM Japan

I don't mind if that Libyan mysteriously disappear tonight.

[Old FM Japan]

Well I dont think we will lynch anyone anyway today (18 votes needed), wich is good as it is, just voted south Korea to made my point clear (since again someone said words are meaningless without words) and like half of the players still didnt said a word and will probably get replaced lol.

[Old FM Japan]

oh well cant edit here lol, meant votes not words in the brackets.^^

[Old FM Cyprus]

I bet France saw my thread: "Killer Lines for Serial Dates".

Need to concentrate and real life now. See you guys tomorrow! I'll still be alive and I know it.

[Old FM South Korea]

16 more votes in 7+ hours? That's pretty easy

[Old FM Thailand]

http://www.troll.me/2011/09/12/y-u-no/everybody-y-u-no-russian/

REALLY Y NO RUSSIA

[Old FM Norway]

There is one important country that has not posted anything here yet. You all know who I mean.

[Old FM Argentina]

There is one important country that has not posted anything here yet. You all know who I mean.

Mithuania?

[Old FM Japan]

There is one important country that has not posted anything here yet. You all know who I mean.

Nah definetly brazil

[Old FM Sweden]

Which arguments made against Libya indicate scum and why?



Sweden, my dear, how is it that you have not interpreted my theories or position from my actions? I believe I have argued a fair case against D1 no lynching as well as solidified on my stance on Libya's actions through my vote and on how we should try to find anti-town.



I believe I have made a reasonable presentation of how the serious votes placed now are not people trying to lynch randomly.

#177 is a good post. Libya failed to address said good post explaining why his stance is right.

#203 is a bad post. It states the obvious many a time (town can vote town, mafia can vote mafia, nothing concrete will come from D1) and doesn't really add anything new to the argument at hand, and while he says people can FoS all they like, he himself refrains from doing so.

I have estabilished a couple of townreads, unsure of Japan though.

Libya > Italy > Japan
"My dear"? How sweet.
I could get used to you dear sir. It seems I did miss a few things in your posts England. I'll have to make it up to you somehow.

[Old FM Sweden]

Mithuania?

What do you think we should do today hmm?
You seem to have a lot to say

[Old FM France]

HAI EVERYONE I MISSED YOU ALL SO

[Old FM Sweden]

HAI EVERYONE I MISSED YOU ALL SO

Why can't you be sophisticated like the French are supposed to be

[Old FM Thailand]

Still y no Russia it make my soviet heart sad

[Old FM Germany]

Still y no Russia it make my soviet heart sad

The communists are our enemies. They are the greatest threat to this world. Fm russia

[Old FM Poland]

Are you Jerry?

FM Libya