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MoonAcE
March 9th, 2014, 02:36 PM
Hi Guys again...


i saw it now a few times that the "Draw System", if 2 maf vs 2 towns or 1maf vs 1 revealed mayor sometimes dumb is.


First Example(it happened 2 Days ago, i was revealed Mayor, Arso was left(he ignited all others the Night before day came), the game instantly said Arso won...but why? Mayor had 3 votes, Arso 1, means Mayor would have won the Majiority Vote.

Second Example(it happened 2 mins ago), i was Jailor with 1 Exec left and 1 Crier on Town side(means 2 Towns alive), vs GF and Consort, i Jailed the GF 3 days in a row, but couldnt kill because of Block from consort. After the 3 Days we came into this Anonymous Voting thing with Tie breaker...at end of day, Maf won? but why???. I mean Maf couldnt kill anymore, means Town should have won...am i wrong?

cxx
March 9th, 2014, 03:01 PM
It's intended. You can refer to:

http://wiki.sc2mafia.com/index.php?title=Mechanics#Three_Days_of_Peace

MoonAcE
March 9th, 2014, 03:10 PM
thx for this list, but still its rather...bad?

a revealed mayor should win a 1vs1 tie, since he has enough votes to trial/lynch some1
the 2vs2 i could understand somehow, however even there i think its not a good thing, if town manages it to block maf 3 days in a row, they hsould be above maf...but as i said, i couldt understand 2vs2

Helios
March 9th, 2014, 03:26 PM
Well you shouldnt forget that it isnt that easy as maf to create a 2v2 situation at least it shouldnt be and i think its fair that they win ties then espacially since town can create many situations where maf cant kill anymore (2docs that heal eachother, jailor, (escort)).

MoonAcE
March 9th, 2014, 03:29 PM
but its hard too for town sometimes to have a jailor alive in such a situation, maybe add specific win rules in a 2vs2, like if jailor is alive, town wins(since in most setups there is only 1 jailor, but 2-3 docs)

Xentios
March 12th, 2014, 07:31 AM
but its hard too for town sometimes to have a jailor alive in such a situation, maybe add specific win rules in a 2vs2, like if jailor is alive, town wins(since in most setups there is only 1 jailor, but 2-3 docs)

Well you forgot that if town in in 2v2 that means town is losing.

For a normal 9-3-3 game where 9 town and 3 mafia you say 7 townie died for 1 mafia which left 2 maf and 2 town do you really think town should win in a draw?

Xentios
March 12th, 2014, 08:57 AM
Can we change the topic admins? So Dr won't waste time reading this?

louiswill
March 12th, 2014, 10:10 AM
2 maf Vs 2 town, arsonist wins? Sorry I do not get it, if arsonist is not in the role list.

Helios
March 12th, 2014, 02:44 PM
2 maf Vs 2 town, arsonist wins? Sorry I do not get it, if arsonist is not in the role list.

His first example was 1 mayor vs arso, arso wins, he thought mayor would be better because mayor has more votes. Thought he count in ties as much as every other town role exept citizen.

louiswill
March 12th, 2014, 02:53 PM
His first example was 1 mayor vs arso, arso wins, he thought mayor would be better because mayor has more votes. Thought he count in ties as much as every other town role exept citizen.

I see. Who wants to vote when there are only two people left? Criminals beat goo out of normal people on 1 vs 1, otherwise we don't need cops at all.