S-FM 126: HP:The First Wizarding War

[Gyver]

Day 1
Quibbler Headline:
Two more Muggle-borns found dead this morning, Albus Dumbledore sounds a call to arms.

Wizards from Magical Britain gather at the Ministry of Magic to discuss growing concerns over the new dark lord. The dark lord has been keen to punish those that stand against him and their families. As such, everyone in attendance is under the effects of a spell to mask their identity.

While as of yet there have been no direct accusations, everyone is worried that Death Eaters are among those present. To complicate matters further, the Time Room has missing Time Turners and rumors are surfacing of a bypass to the safety mechanism preventing traveling further than 6 hours back in time. The most obvious implication of this is that there might exist multiples of the same person at this meeting. More subtle is the assumption that the future versions likely retain no memory of the events to come, one last protection against time paradoxes.

There are no lynches today.

The night will begin at http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=midnight+est+jan+18

Setup (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/23337-S-FM-HP-The-First-Wizarding-War)

The following wizards are alive:
1.Pluvialis
2.visheshk
3.Placid Platypus
4.Nepene
5.Azuriae
6.Ika
7.NumberTwo
8.Citrus
9.louiswill
10.Orpz
11.Powerofdeath
12.kusco
13.damus

-The Death Eaters-
Voldemort
Random Slytherin
Random Slytherin

-Magical England-
Albus Dumbledore
Severus Snape
Random Ravenclaw
Random Gryffindor
Random Hufflepuff
Random House
Random House
Random House

Creatures:
Dementor
Random Non-killing Magical Creature

Day 2:http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/25260-S-FM-126-HP-The-First-Wizarding-War?p=417602&viewfull=1#post417602

Day 3:http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/25260-S-FM-126-HP-The-First-Wizarding-War?p=418084&viewfull=1#post418084

Day 4:http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/25260-S-FM-126-HP-The-First-Wizarding-War?p=418719&viewfull=1#post418719

[ika]

first

[Damus_Graves]

i dun even kno

[ika]

player list and link to setup?

[Orpz]

Mass role call today?

[Orpz]

There is at least one Bodyguard and one Doctor.

[ika]

topic: new players

have you guys played anything like this?
if so where?
if not what are you hoping to expect?
do you plan on playing other games after this?

/go

maybe this can spark something

[Orpz]

topic: new players

have you guys played anything like this?
if so where?
if not what are you hoping to expect?
do you plan on playing other games after this?

/go

maybe this can spark something

sorry ika but these r bad questions

[Orpz]

new players

wat is ur role?
wat is ur RP name?

[ika]

sorry ika but these r bad questions

better then nothing.

[Orpz]

Damus_Graves

[Kusco]

Sup peoples

[Orpz]

meta on kusco: if u outrap him he slips up as scum

[Kusco]

meta on kusco: if u outrap him he slips up as scum

Sure. Even though what I do is actual poetry.

[ika]

Damus_Graves

votes on a no lynch day.

i shall join

-vote Orpz

[ika]

Sure. Even though what I do is actual poetry.

can you make me a poem then. i would love to hear it.

[Orpz]

uh yea uh yea fuck u kusco ur scum

tonite ur busy with ur night action....guzzling cum

yea uh yuh uh just fake claim citizen already

b4 i approach u with my 18 in machete

uh werd rap battling u is fukking joke

cut ur ass up snort u like a line of coke

werd

[Kusco]

can you make me a poem then. i would love to hear it.

Ika once had a bucket
This is a poem
Fuck it

[Orpz]

uh yea ur not leaving intact

in sfm i dont get infract

4 personal attack

ur bout to b sacked

rip off ur sack

nigga u black

but rap skills u lack

werd

[ika]

Ika once had a bucket
This is a poem
Fuck it

was it a bucket full of pucket?
or could it be a bucket full of suck it?

[Kusco]

was it a bucket full of pucket?
or could it be a bucket full of suck it?

Forget about the poem; just chuck it

[ika]

Forget about the poem; just chuck it

into a bucket?

anyway im getting tired so if i dont repsond im sleeping

[Citrus]

into a bucket?

anyway im getting tired so if i dont repsond im sleeping

You guys are making such a rucket.

@New players
If you've never played forum mafia before, I would recommend checking epicmafia.com out. You can play quick games of mafia with similar roles to kind of get the feel of common terms, strategies, etc.

[Kusco]

You guys are making such a rucket.

@New players
If you've never played forum mafia before, I would recommend checking epicmafia.com out. You can play quick games of mafia with similar roles to kind of get the feel of common terms, strategies, etc.

I still don't know what OMGUS means.

I know that it's an accusation against your accuser(s) but I don't understand the etymology.

[Citrus]

I still don't know what OMGUS means.

I know that it's an accusation against your accuser(s) but I don't understand the etymology.

Even with it being brought up across multiple games haha.

Oh My Gosh You Suck - Calling someone mafia for voting/accusing you after you accuse them and seemingly solely because of them. Often seen as a weak mafia play against being accused since it's a weak discredit/trying to shift the spotlight.

[Kusco]

Even with it being brought up across multiple games haha.

Oh My Gosh You Suck - Calling someone mafia for voting/accusing you after you accuse them and seemingly solely because of them. Often seen as a weak mafia play against being accused since it's a weak discredit/trying to shift the spotlight.

Thank you.

This is the first time that someone has explained that to me after I ask.

[Citrus]

I love the RP for the neutrals by the way!

[Citrus]

Thank you.

This is the first time that someone has explained that to me after I ask.

I was debating letting it stay a running thing :p

[Kusco]

I was debating letting it stay a running thing :p

There's probably some obscure acronym out there that I don't know. Maybe it'll come up this game.

Even so, I would resent it.

[Citrus]

Does Framing affect Investigative pairing checks?

[Orpz]

There's probably some obscure acronym out there that I don't know. Maybe it'll come up this game.

Even so, I would resent it.

DBCN

[Orpz]

Does Framing affect Investigative pairing checks?

found the framer.

[Kusco]

DBCN

Now I'm sure that you're making that up.

What situation or strategy does that mean?

[Orpz]

Now I'm sure that you're making that up.

What situation or strategy does that mean?

forum search

it's defined

[Citrus]

found the framer.

Nah I'm Snape, I was trying to WIFOM

Now look what you've done.

[Citrus]

(that was not a real claim in case it's not obvious)

Anyways, I want to think a bit more about what the role setup might be. I'll probably post my thoughts on it tomorrow since I want to sleep and we've got plenty of time today

[louiswill]

Good to meet everyone.

What do we do day 1? Press claim as usual or just stroll and skip as usual?

I want to have a dinner with headless knights.

[louiswill]

Snape is a wifom master indeed. Agree?

[Numbertwo]

Yo! No lynch today so this day is going to suck.

[powerofdeath]

Why hello there darling! *pull out a lollipop out of my mouth* I am only charging 10 bucks tonight. You also need rubber. *stick lollipop back in* I'll see you around *wink*

[Gyver]

Does Framing affect Investigative pairing checks?

Yes, it will become a death eater pairing that is not shared by the target.

[Orpz]

skip

[Azuriae]

Good morning, gents.

Let's make this a good game, I'm still bitter about the last one I played.

[Numbertwo]

..

[Numbertwo]

Skip

[Numbertwo]

Doc on me im a important PR!

[Orpz]

Good morning, gents.

Let's make this a good game, I'm still bitter about the last one I played.

Pls skip so i can kill u at night

[Azuriae]

Pls skip so i can kill u at night

plz no Parcher-kun

[Orpz]

plz no Parcher-kun

sorry sorkin san

unless u r immune u will die

[Kusco]

sorry sorkin san

unless u r immune u will die

Wouldn't that be a twist?

[Orpz]

d1 skip
n1 azuriae
d2 mislynch damus
n2 nepene
d3 mislynch ika

[Orpz]

Wouldn't that be a twist?

now that wud be a twist

but not 1 thats going 2 happen 2nite

[Kusco]

now that wud be a twist

but not 1 thats going 2 happen 2nite

u sure m8? U got something hiding, no?

[Orpz]

u sure m8? U got something hiding, no?

yes

i will let u all no if hes immune

[Kusco]

yes

i will let u all no if hes immune

looking forward 2 it

[Orpz]

looking forward 2 it

wats ur role

ther shud be a d1 role call

[Kusco]

wats ur role

ther shud be a d1 role call

no

wats urs

then i tell mine

[Orpz]

no

wats urs

then i tell mine

i will only claim if u n at least half the game claims

dont wry i m killing azuriae no matter wat

even if u r like mayor

[Kusco]

i will only claim if u n at least half the game claims

dont wry i m killing azuriae no matter wat

even if u r like mayor

how did you no that im dumbledore?

hax i think

[Orpz]

how did you no that im dumbledore?

hax i think

wifom

[Damus_Graves]

ika

[Damus_Graves]

Idiot.voted.for.orpz.the.towny.leada.

[Orpz]

Idiot.voted.for.orpz.the.towny.leada.

agreed

[louiswill]

-skip the day

What are dark mark for?

[louiswill]

skip

[ika]

Man that was a good sleep. Still tired but let me see what i missed.

[ika]

ok looking thruogh i noticed that orpz is being town leader, and is threatening to shoot everyone. He still wants mass role call. Damus is blatenly buddying and defednign orpz by calling him town leader and then proceedes to vote me when i fake voted orpz.

damus also seems to not be paying attention to the fact that it is no lynch today. this indicates damus is either not even paying attention to the game or is seeking out reactions. his serious vote on me vs my fake vote is rather odd and if one of them were to flip scum i would most liekly see the other follow suit.

cirtus question is double sided on what it could mean. however it does spark somethign that should be followed up on

is the framed target pariing random or chosen?

louis has claimed one of 2 roles most liekly already if you read.

[ika]

skip

also that, we arent going to get much w/o the actual ability to use pressure and threaten lynch.

[Citrus]

There's a good chance skipping the day won't change night end time. That's basically giving the mafia additional time for their nightchat.
Which is extra important to them this game since they want to townhunt for Snape.

Skip Day (4):
Orpz, Numbertwo, louiswill, ika
ika (1):
Damus_Graves

I'd reckon at least one of those under skip day is a Death Eater.

[Damus_Graves]

Idiot.voted.for.orpz.the.towny.leada.
Da.reads.two.power4.

[ika]

There's a good chance skipping the day won't change night end time. That's basically giving the mafia additional time for their nightchat.
Which is extra important to them this game since they want to townhunt for Snape.

Skip Day (4):
Orpz, Numbertwo, louiswill, ika
ika (1):
Damus_Graves

I'd reckon at least one of those under skip day is a Death Eater.

got any better ideas? all we got to do right now is sit here and do crap. i have given some questions but have been largly ignored. we could go with orpz plan of mass role call and go from there, we can skip, or we can sit here and do jack.

also if we cut day short they will have less to go on for hunting snape as well.

[Damus_Graves]

Toooomuchintellegemt.missing you hurtd
There's a good chance skipping the day won't change night end time. That's basically giving the mafia additional time for their nightchat.
Which is extra important to them this game since they want to townhunt for Snape.

Skip Day (4):
Orpz, Numbertwo, louiswill, ika
ika (1):
Damus_Graves

I'd reckon at least one of those under skip day is a Death Eater.

[Pluvialis]

I'm Spartacus!

[Damus_Graves]

got any better ideas? all we got to do right now is sit here and do crap. i have given some questions but have been largly ignored. we could go with orpz plan of mass role call and go from there, we can skip, or we can sit here and do jack.

also if we cut day short they will have less to go on for hunting snape as well.
That here death eater doe

[ika]

That here death eater doe

nope, im not nice try though

[louiswill]

nope, im not nice try though

You are torturing the students, bad teacher.

[Citrus]

got any better ideas? all we got to do right now is sit here and do crap. i have given some questions but have been largly ignored. we could go with orpz plan of mass role call and go from there, we can skip, or we can sit here and do jack.

also if we cut day short they will have less to go on for hunting snape as well.

There's a difference between ignored and they haven't even checked in to see them yet.

I don't see mass role call as being very useful in this game, or at least I've never seen a game where it was beneficial D1 no lynch day.

Also red colored part, you literally just contradicted what I said.

[ika]

There's a difference between ignored and they haven't even checked in to see them yet.

I don't see mass role call as being very useful in this game, or at least I've never seen a game where it was beneficial D1 no lynch day.

Also red colored part, you literally just contradicted what I said.

ok....

i do that a lot. if you noticed in this setup we have no citizen as well. so we mass roleclaim, it would just be setting up everyone actions to catch the scums. if you throw in citizens then yes mass roel call is not as good.

however any setup can almost be broken by a mass roel call

[ika]

and although the questiosn were primarl directed to the new players, we could answer them ourself in a similar fasion.

[Damus_Graves]

Dat ika de death eater doe.
De obvious evil de obvious.

[powerofdeath]

I'm Spartacus!

You want some sugar with that?

[Citrus]

I'm fine with a public role call then, although I'd bet it's close enough to dayend that only town will end up claiming

[Citrus]

Hmm I was going to fos Ika, but I might switch to NumberTwo

[Damus_Graves]

Ika: nap, skip, contradictions


Y #2 orangey goodness?

[Kusco]

I vote for no role claim today.

I think it be stupid.

[louiswill]

There is no citizen in this setup, we must skip and see it ends.

If you think we shall role claim, do it yourself.

No lynch = no pressure

Otherwise we need meta.

With Damus and ika in this game, any meta will make no sense and be unproductive.

Flip-floping and playing dumb dogmatic are their special talent.

I hope I will die later than this two in this game.

[louiswill]

I vote for no role claim today.

I think it be stupid.

I vote yes, but I have claimed role almost every damn game.

I want to try something different now and see if I would screw up town again somehow.

[ika]

With Damus and ika in this game, any meta will make no sense and be unproductive.

Flip-floping and playing dumb dogmatic are their special talent.


its true. we do this all the time, however once i figure things out it becomes more clear cut to me. thats why i also play offsite now with other players.

[powerofdeath]

I vote yes, but I have claimed role almost every damn game.

I want to try something different now and see if I would screw up town again somehow.

Claim a role honey, I want to see your big tool!

[ika]

I vote yes, but I have claimed role almost every damn game.

I want to try something different now and see if I would screw up town again somehow.

its not hard to devine the role list when you have 0 citizen. it forces scums to claim prs and then it becomes a game of cordinating night actions

[louiswill]

its not hard to devine the role list when you have 0 citizen. it forces scums to claim prs and then it becomes a game of cordinating night actions

Thats how I love and always play, except some peep always went against my idea and forces scums to shutup.

So finally some town investigative role end up checked all town members other than Death Eater.

Good call! What you say? you voted skip too.

[Azuriae]

I don't think skipping the day is ever a good idea. What does it accomplish? The next day won't start sooner, will it?

And I am not against a mass roleclaim, but if only half the people are and the rest refuse to claim, it would cause problems.

[ika]

I don't think skipping the day is ever a good idea. What does it accomplish? The next day won't start sooner, will it?

And I am not against a mass roleclaim, but if only half the people are and the rest refuse to claim, it would cause problems.

then we pressure the non-claimers and lynch them if they dont claim. as for skipping, with no-lynch, we cant do anything becasue we cant threaten lynch. at best it becomes troll, however those who do contibute are helping. notice the lack of show-ups?

its most likly due to the fact we cant do anything right now.

[Kusco]

then we pressure the non-claimers and lynch them if they dont claim. as for skipping, with no-lynch, we cant do anything becasue we cant threaten lynch. at best it becomes troll, however those who do contibute are helping. notice the lack of show-ups?

its most likly due to the fact we cant do anything right now.

That is exactly what is happening: nothing

What can we do about it? Nothing

[Azuriae]

then we pressure the non-claimers and lynch them if they dont claim. as for skipping, with no-lynch, we cant do anything becasue we cant threaten lynch. at best it becomes troll, however those who do contibute are helping. notice the lack of show-ups?

its most likly due to the fact we cant do anything right now.

Then scum could just ''claim'' too, leaving the protectives and the such that went against the mass claim to be pressured down and revealed for no good reason.

[ika]

Then scum could just ''claim'' too, leaving the protectives and the such that went against the mass claim to be pressured down and revealed for no good reason.

like i said, we coordinate night actions to set it up where they get trapped.

[louiswill]

So this is now Meta time:

How to Coodinate Your Action?

Louiswill's Plan for night 1: Coordinate actions according to the claimers and leader ship

1. Town leader
Town leader should get at least one protective role
None investigative roles go to town leader

2. The first claimer
The first claimer, received a counter or not
get at least one protective role after town leader get one

3. The second claimer
The second claimer should receive an investigation

4.How to coodinate your action if there are two possible same role?

Go down the role list,

If you think there are two people like you, i.e.: two doctors
then assume there is one person is in 1-6, another in the 7-13

Check your own name in the list and act according to the order.

5. What if no claim?

Target people you want to buddy with or hate for.

Till
THE END OF NIGHT 1

[louiswill]

if you all agree, then we shall enter next discussion. I will save the topic for later.

[Orpz]

so r u guys going 2 claim or not

[Orpz]

There's a good chance skipping the day won't change night end time. That's basically giving the mafia additional time for their nightchat.
Which is extra important to them this game since they want to townhunt for Snape.

Skip Day (4):
Orpz, Numbertwo, louiswill, ika
ika (1):
Damus_Graves

I'd reckon at least one of those under skip day is a Death Eater.

y do u think this? r u a death eater telling ur teammate to unvote skip day?

[Nepene]

Yeah. I'm definitely willing to go along with a general motion- but I'm not going to be the first one into it. It'd kinda suck to be the only one to do it.

[louiswill]

so r u guys going 2 claim or not

I don't bother to because there is no lynch. Little pressure.

I propose a workable plan and see if anyone actually want to claim and coordinate,

or finding excuses for their own purpose.

What about you?

Asking a question that you already know the answer?

Come on! you know no one is going to claim!

Why bother to ask!

On the other hand, I think citrus's 1/4 guess is totally legit, doesn't matter the reasons behind at all.

[louiswill]

Only the first get the credit, the second should all get gut and investigated.

[powerofdeath]

Im veteran. WiFoM

[powerofdeath]

Doctor should come and visit me and we will 'play' doctor. I will use my seductive skill and give the best bj ever. Dont be shy, darling. Just come over. *winky face*

[Citrus]

y do u think this? r u a death eater telling ur teammate to unvote skip day?

Who in their right mind as scum would vote skip day and then unvote when someone said something like that? I'm assuming you're reaction testing because otherwise that was a pretty dumb statement.

[louiswill]

Im veteran. WiFoM

2 easy: I claim bodyguard and I will go to pod tonight.

(ib4 the day ends in dishonest, please take no seriousness)

[Damus_Graves]

Naw bro. Not gonna claim this game, Yoloswag#
Also Ika death eater de obvious.
CITRUS Y #2 U?>

[Citrus]

Naw bro. Not gonna claim this game, Yoloswag#
Also Ika death eater de obvious.
CITRUS Y #2 U?>

I don't understand what you're saying in the last statement

[Kusco]

I don't understand what you're saying in the last statement

He was basically yelling it. Why is that too hard to understand?

He clearly said your name, why hashtag two you? pointing to blank space.

Wasn't that informative?

[Gyver]

Night as fallen, daylight is foreseen to occur at http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=jan+19+midnight+est

[Gyver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9I5tlU4Kuo#t=1m12s

Given her visage as deputy headmistress, people often forget that Minerva McGonagall is a Gryffindor. She saw a likely target for retribution and did not hesitate to put her all into protecting him. Her intuition was sound as she found herself face to face with Voldemort himself. He must not have been expected to run into anyone but his target as he was many times the superior duelist. A bright green bolt had already left Minerva's wand by the time Voldemort realized she was there. He wasn't able to dodge, but he was able to loose his own bolt. Neither missed their mark.

Graveyard:
Azuriae(Voldemort) - killed by louiswill
louiswill(Minerva McGonagall) - killed by Azuriae

The following wizards are alive:
1.Pluvialis
2.visheshk
3.Placid Platypus
4.Nepene
5.Ika
6.NumberTwo
7.Citrus
8.Orpz
9.Powerofdeath
10.kusco
11.damus

-The Death Eaters-
Random Slytherin
Random Slytherin

-Magical England-
Albus Dumbledore
Severus Snape
Random Ravenclaw
Random Hufflepuff
Random House
Random House
Random House

Creatures:
Dementor
Random Non-killing Magical Creature

It is now day 2: night 2 will start at http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=midnight+est+jan+20th

[ika]

louis mvp right there.

anyway, i got nothing to report.

[ika]

orpz

serious vote, based off day one interactions im betting orpz is death eater. if needed i will build the case but its so short it should be self explanitory if you look. orpz apparently knew azurie was night immune

[ika]

There are currently 3 users browsing this thread. (2 members and 1 guests)
ika, Gyver

-.-

im glad i can do this yet again. if orpz is to flip death eater i would figure damus to follow suit as well. it is possible one of them is snake but we will have to see. damus defense on orpz for day one was rather disturbing especial scince azurie was volitmort.

[Gyver]

Uses time turner to go back 24 minutes.

6

[Orpz]

I'm not death eater

[Orpz]

I was probably bussed or something

[Kusco]

I was probably bussed or something

As in bus driven or thrown under the bus?

[ika]

I'm not death eater

then how do you expalin your interactions with azurie from day one. volitmort is immune at night and your post all point towards knowing that

[Orpz]

then how do you expalin your interactions with azurie from day one. volitmort is immune at night and your post all point towards knowing that

Trolling

didn't expect him to die

[ika]

orpz

becasue the vote counter got reset. so orpz if you are not death eater what are you. im not letting up on this. your interactions have me locked in on you. unless if someone else comes up wth something of note you are the primary focus today

[ika]

Trolling

didn't expect him to die

really? we have no ctitizens so the "trolling citizen" excuse is not vaild

[Orpz]

As in bus driven or thrown under the bus?

uh oh yea yea uh yea fuk u kusco u want 2 stop living?

i ment bus driven

rich af so i launder money at

laundermats

clothes crisp as fuck

bitch u better duck

im coming 4 u

cuz ur scum

kusco

[ika]

There are currently 6 users browsing this thread. (4 members and 2 guests)
ika*, Orpz+, visheshk

i see we have the new player here

anything to report. orpz feedback if anything, by the sounds of it you sound like you were bus driven.

i looked at setup and apparently forgot to ask about this

is the person protected by bodyguard informed?

its unfortanet louis left no lw of who he picked. it was not me if it is informed, and if orpz plans on claiming it i will not buy it becasue he would of claimed it from get go.

[powerofdeath]

Orpz

[Gyver]

is the person protected by bodyguard informed?


Yes

[ika]

Yes

so orpz wasnt the target protected nor was i, a am going to assume kusco and pod were not either

[ika]

i am absing that orpz was not portected becasue eh would of had the feedback and would of claimed it first thing

[ika]

There are currently 4 users browsing this thread. (3 members and 1 guests)
ika*, Placid Platypus, visheshk

anything to report? i can see you guys are here, im getting tired and will be heading to bed soon

[Placid Platypus]

The case against Orpz sounds plausible, especially since he busg me, I'm going to go look for a citation before I vote him though.

[Kusco]

Apologies.

I was playing Dota2 and alt-tabbing here.

Nothing to report here.

Sigh

Nothing at all.

[visheshk]

Orpz's random guess claim does sound suspicious.
But to simply post an alternate hypothesis, I didn't think azuriae had done anything noticeable up to the point of orpz's mention (or even after perhaps), and if orpz was a death eater, it wouldn't make a lot of sense to call attention to Voldemort, would it?

*First time ever with forum mafia, forgive clumsiness maybe?

[Kusco]

orpz

serious vote, based off day one interactions im betting orpz is death eater. if needed i will build the case but its so short it should be self explanitory if you look. orpz apparently knew azurie was night immune

Death eaters know who has the dark mark.

Voldemort does not have a dark mark.

Azuriae was Voldemort.

Therefore the Death Eaters don't know who Voldemort is. I think this case is missing something.

[Placid Platypus]

Okay, the stuff from day one is inconclusive but definitely a little fishy, and also the lack of anything approximating grammar is really annoying and it we kill him I won't have to read anymore of it, so I'm onboard with
-vote Orpz

Also is there a preview post option? Given that we can't edit I'd like the ability to be a little more careful.

[Placid Platypus]

Death eaters know who has the dark mark.

Voldemort does not have a dark mark.

Azuriae was Voldemort.

Therefore the Death Eaters don't know who Voldemort is. I think this case is missing something.

Pretty sure Death Eaters also know Voldy, I was just rechecking the rules.

[Kusco]

Okay, the stuff from day one is inconclusive but definitely a little fishy, and also the lack of anything approximating grammar is really annoying and it we kill him I won't have to read anymore of it, so I'm onboard with
-vote Orpz

Also is there a preview post option? Given that we can't edit I'd like the ability to be a little more careful.

You could press the "Go Advanced" button in between Post Quick Reply and Cancel.

BTW, the correct format is [ vote]PLAYER NAME[ /vote]

Without the spaces of course. There's a code that keeps track of the votes when you format it like that.

[Kusco]

Pretty sure Death Eaters also know Voldy, I was just rechecking the rules.

I noted it because it was something out of the ordinary. You would think that everyone would know who's in the mafia but that exception....

[Placid Platypus]

Would it be possible to get a link to the thread with the rules in the first post or something? Or is there another easy way to find it?

And apparently I should Orpz

[ika]

Okay, the stuff from day one is inconclusive but definitely a little fishy, and also the lack of anything approximating grammar is really annoying and it we kill him I won't have to read anymore of it, so I'm onboard with
-vote Orpz

Also is there a preview post option? Given that we can't edit I'd like the ability to be a little more careful.

yes you do "go advance"

aslo you need to do vote tags like this

name here

just remove the space and replace the name.

as for kuscos


Death Eater night chat is anonymous. Death Eaters are given the names of all players with a Dark Mark and Voldemort at the start of the game. No roles are given. They will not be able to tell the difference between the person playing Snape or any other member of the death eaters.

[ika]

Would it be possible to get a link to the thread with the rules in the first post or something? Or is there another easy way to find it?

And apparently I should Orpz

check first post theres setup link :)

[Kusco]

oh.

my mistake.

[Orpz]

Look how fast I got to L-3

Is that not suspicious

[Placid Platypus]

check first post theres setup link :)

Thanks. Misparsed that as a heading, not a link.


Look how fast I got to L-3

Is that not suspicious

Ooh, maybe he's a boggart. Doubt it though.

[Kusco]

Look how fast I got to L-3

Is that not suspicious

Consider my vote on you right now. I don't want a quick hammer and an early end to the day.

Defend yourself, somehow.

[ika]

Look how fast I got to L-3

Is that not suspicious

seeing how i have justified my vote and reasonign on you its not as suspicios as you think. as for platy bogart idea, i do agree its unlikely.

your reaction on it is either you plan on waiting to l-2/l-1 to claim dumbledorf or you are scum who has given up. heck even if you do reveal as dumbledorf later it only helps becasue we can look back on who sheeped it.

[ika]

Consider my vote on you right now. I don't want a quick hammer and an early end to the day.

Defend yourself, somehow.

i would like to hear some explimation from him as well, his trolling makes me think hes jsut a scum who got the short end of the stick from the flpip and is now trying bogart delay

[Orpz]

Playing LoL.

I'll defend myself regardless of how many votes I'm at once I'm done.

[Kusco]

Playing LoL.

I'll defend myself regardless of how many votes I'm at once I'm done.

Playing LoL is worthy of a lynch imo.

idc about your defense. I want to be the hammer.

/s

[ika]

Playing LoL is worthy of a lynch imo.

idc about your defense. I want to be the hammer.

/s

im fine with your hamemr (unless orpz comes out and claimd dumbledorf) but i must ask

any specific reason fro wanting the hammer?

[Kusco]

im fine with your hamemr (unless orpz comes out and claimd dumbledorf) but i must ask

any specific reason fro wanting the hammer?

I kid. I really don't like LoL.

DotA2 is where it's at.

I don't really need to be the hammer.

[ika]

I kid. I really don't like LoL.

DotA2 is where it's at.

I don't really need to be the hammer.

mkay thats all i needed to know.

im gonna go i might be around or not

[Orpz]

I'm devising a strategy to prove myself but I need Gyber to confirm some questions for me

will claim once he checks and replies to his PM's.

[ika]

I'm devising a strategy to prove myself but I need Gyber to confirm some questions for me

will claim once he checks and replies to his PM's.

gyber is online so i dont expect it to be very long...

[Orpz]

gyber is online so i dont expect it to be very long...

He either wants me to be lynched or isn't checking his PM's.

[Citrus]

Not in a state to post, but checking in to say I received feedback that:
Minerva saved me from the evils that are Lord voldemort

Will read and post accordingly later today

[ika]

also i want to hear the question publicly after they get answered. your only stalling. what happened to the day 1 "mass role claim"

[ika]

Not in a state to post, but checking in to say I received feedback that:
Minerva saved me from the evils that are Lord voldemort

Will read and post accordingly later today

well cirtus is confirmed non death eater unless....

can volitmort/death eaters target each other?

and orpz your stalling isnt helping.

[Kusco]

well cirtus is confirmed non death eater unless....

can volitmort/death eaters target each other?

and orpz your stalling isnt helping.

That would be absolutely stupid. There's no guarantee that a teammate would be saved. It would be way too risky.

[ika]

That would be absolutely stupid. There's no guarantee that a teammate would be saved. It would be way too risky.

im more askign it in relations to snake being death eater

[Placid Platypus]

Given that Snape exists I'm pretty sure they can target Death Eaters. But in this case I don't think that's plausible. Unless Citrus said something really Snapey in Death Eater night chat or something.

[Orpz]

also i want to hear the question publicly after they get answered. your only stalling. what happened to the day 1 "mass role claim"

Context Context Context

And yeah I'll share them publicly after they're answered.

[Kusco]

Context Context Context

And yeah I'll share them publicly after they're answered.

What do they relate to?

I don't want you to make up some questions with some quasi-reasonable answers.

[Orpz]

What do they relate to?

I don't want you to make up some questions with some quasi-reasonable answers.

Feedback

[Kusco]

Feedback

It's still very broad but okay. I'm looking forward to your defense. I want to know how these questions will save you.

[ika]

orpz should just claim and post them here, he has no reason to delay it

@new post, you should state the feedback so we can als inqire on it. holding feedback can be good but here, not so much right now

[Placid Platypus]

So is there any actual reason for a person to ask questions in PM if they're just going to post them publicly anyway? I guess if they give away your role that's one thing, but if you already plan on claiming once you get answers I see no reason not to post the questions now.

[Kusco]

orpz should just claim and post them here, he has no reason to delay it

@new post, you should state the feedback so we can als inqire on it. holding feedback can be good but here, not so much right now

He said he was bus driven. He might have more but I don't know.

[Placid Platypus]

Pretty sure he isn't told if he gets bus driven, not sure how he'd know.

[Orpz]

He said he was bus driven. He might have more but I don't know.

There is no feedback for bus driven, I checked

[Orpz]

Nah these questions must be answered

[Orpz]

I'll give the claim now though

Lookout

[Kusco]

I'll give the claim now though

Lookout

That's the role.

What's the action?

[Orpz]

That's the role.

What's the action?

I'm not going anywhere in the next hour, so just wait for Gyber to answer my PM's

[Orpz]

[10:45:19 PM] Jon [redact]: you there?

check that timestamp. I hit him up an hour ago :mad:

[ika]

[10:45:19 PM] Jon [redact]: you there?

check that timestamp. I hit him up an hour ago :mad:

just at least post the feedback. it will save time in the long run

[Orpz]

No one visited my target.

[Orpz]

Mass role call today?

also, what scum wants a mass role call

there would be incredible pressure to come up with a fake claim and fake actions to go along with it. Death Eaters can't communicate and coordinate their fake actions, so there's that.

[Placid Platypus]

Maybe it's just my noobiness talking, but it seems to me that a day one mass role call is implausible enough that you could go on record as calling for it without much risk that it would actually happen.

[Orpz]

Maybe it's just my noobiness talking, but it seems to me that a day one mass role call is implausible enough that you could go on record as calling for it without much risk that it would actually happen.

too risky

also why would I bring attention to myself and Azuriae? This train is incredibly misguided.

Sleeping now. I'm hiking tomorrow so I won't be home a good portion of the day but I'll be able to read and post when I wake up.

[Orpz]

calling out visheshk before i leave

visheshk

[Damus_Graves]

Guise.
Guise.
Nepene

Thats clearly the only reasonable answer

[powerofdeath]

Orpz arent you bussed?

[Pluvialis]

Checking in, nothing to report. Orpz's grammatical shortcomings aside, is there a reason they might be deliberately trying to get lynched? Boggart?

If the Boggart is lynched and fulfils their wincon, is the game over?

Can I also request that the names of roles that you guys use are noted next to the list of roles in the setup post? Lookout (Orpz's claim) could be Trelawney or Lovegood I guess?

[powerofdeath]

-The Death Eaters-
Voldemort - Azuriae
Random Slytherin
Random Slytherin

-Magical England-
Albus Dumbledore
Severus Snape
Random Ravenclaw
Minerva McGonagall - Louiswill
Random Hufflepuff
Random House
Random House
Random House

Creatures:
Dementor
Random Non-killing Magical Creature

Claims:
Orpz - Xenophilius Lovegood

[powerofdeath]

Voldemort: You are immune to night death. You are immune to Stupify and Crucio. You may cast Avada Kedavra on a player at night, killing them. You will know if your target is immune to the killing curse. Does not have the Dark Mark. AKA GodFather

Slytherin:
Lucius Malfoy: You may cast Legilimens on a player at night, learning a clue pertaining to their role. You will replace Voldemort in the event of his death. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Consigilere

Bellatrix Lestrange: You may cast the Cruciatus Curse on a player at night, incapacitating them, blocking all of their actions. You will know if your target was immune to Crucio. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Consort
Antonin Dolohov:: You may cast the Imperius Curse on a player at night to choose the target of their night action. Your target will not realize they were Imperiused the first time you curse them. Your target will realize they were Imperiused the second time you curse them. Players become immune to Imperius after two curses. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Witch
Peter Pettigrew: You may frame a player at night. Other players that investigate your target that night will believe them to be a Death Eater. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Framer
Barty Crouch Jr.: You may use a polyjuice potion to change your appearance to that of another player at night. Anyone that targets you on the night you use a polyjuice potion will target your polyjuice target instead. Start with two polyjuice poitions. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Tailor


Albus Dumbledore: During the day you may reveal yourself to be Chief Warlock of the Wizengamot. After you reveal, you will have 3 votes for day time lynches. Being the noble hero that you are, once revealed you will not allow Poppy to devote any healing to you at night.
Severus Snape: You have access to the Death Eater night chat and you will appear to be a Death Eater to the other Death Eaters. You will not know the targets Death Eaters each night. You will not know the identity of the Death Eaters. Has the dark mark. AKA Mayor

Ravenclaw:
Quirinus Quirrell: You may cast Legilimens on a player at night, learning a clue pertaining to their role.
Amelia Bones: You may check a player for the dark mark at night revealing whether or not they are a Death Eater. You will know if your target is a dementor. AKA Sheriff
Sybill Telawney: You may cast divination on a player at night, revealing their target that night. AKA Detective
Xenophilius Lovegood: You may place a ward at player's house at night, you will see all players that target your target that night. AKA Lookout

Gryffindor:
Mad-Eye Moody: You may go on alert at night. On a night that you go on alert, you will kill everyone that visits your house. Your constant vigilance allows you to ignore night immunity. You are immune to night death on nights you go on alert. You will be informed of everyone who visits your house on nights you go on alert. You may only go on alert 3 times. AKA Veteran
Minerva McGonagall: You may protect another player at night. If another would attack your target, you will force them to duel you. You and the attacker will both die but the player you protect will survive. AKA Bodyguard
Gideon Prewett: You may cast Avada Kedavra on a player at night, killing them. You may only cast the killing curse twice. You will know if your target is immune to the killing curse. AKA Vigilante

Hufflepuff:
Poppy Pomfrey: At night, you may use your advanced healing magic to resurrect one player so long as they died on the night you targeted them. You will know if your target needed resurrecting. AKA Doctor
Alice Longbottom: You may cast Stupefy at a player at night, stunning them and blocking their action. You will know if your target was immune to stupefy. AKA Escort
Stan the Knight Bus Conductor: You may swap the locations of two players at night. Your targets will not know they were swapped.
Frank Longbottom: You may protect another player at night. If another would attack your target, you will force them to duel you. You and the attacker will both die but the player you protect will survive. AKA Bus Driver

Dementor: You are immune to night death. You may kiss a player at night, killing them. If you are targeted by a Crucio or Stupify you will kill the caster instead of your original target. You will know if your target is immune to the Dementor's kiss. Wins ties with the death eaters. AKA Serial Killer
Boggart: You may visit a player at night you will frighten them(they will be informed of your visit) but it will allow you to become the investigative pairing of your choosing for the night. You do not have the dark mark and will not appear to be a Death Eater to Amelia Bones. If lynched you will kill the last person to visit you at night. The last person to submit a night action will be killed if multiple people target you in the same name. This can not be healed through. AKA Jester
Griphook the Goblin: A member of Magical England has the sword of Godric Gryffindor. He is a thief, in possession of goblin property. See that wizard lynched for the crime of theft. If your target dies at night the killer will be assumed to have taken possession of the sword(becomes the new target). AKA Executioner
Ghost: You are a soul unbound to a body. Despite this fact, avada kedavra can destroy you and a dementor can eat you. You may resist them though sheer force of will but your will is not without limit. You may make yourself immune to destruction for a night on three separate nights. AKA Survivor
House-Elf: By the end of the second night you must choose a master. His goals are your goals. If he is killed you may use the same magic as him for the rest of the game. After your masters death you will appear to investigators as your master would. Your master if informed of your allegiance. If you choose a member of the Death Eaters as your master you will gain access to their night chat. AKA Student




I made this easier for the new guys to understand what we are talking about when using mafia terms.

[powerofdeath]

Albus Dumbledore: During the day you may reveal yourself to be Chief Warlock of the Wizengamot. After you reveal, you will have 3 votes for day time lynches. Being the noble hero that you are, once revealed you will not allow Poppy to devote any healing to you at night. AKA Mayor
Severus Snape: You have access to the Death Eater night chat and you will appear to be a Death Eater to the other Death Eaters. You will not know the targets Death Eaters each night. You will not know the identity of the Death Eaters. Has the dark mark. This is a unique role, not really a common role used in mafia.

Fixed.

[Pluvialis]

Thanks! You missed Quirrell though and got Stan and Frank wrong, I'm guessing. Quirrell- unique role? Stan is the bus driver, and Frank is Hufflepuff bodyguard?

[powerofdeath]

Voldemort: You are immune to night death. You are immune to Stupify and Crucio. You may cast Avada Kedavra on a player at night, killing them. You will know if your target is immune to the killing curse. Does not have the Dark Mark. AKA GodFather

Slytherin:
Lucius Malfoy: You may cast Legilimens on a player at night, learning a clue pertaining to their role. You will replace Voldemort in the event of his death. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Consigilere

Bellatrix Lestrange: You may cast the Cruciatus Curse on a player at night, incapacitating them, blocking all of their actions. You will know if your target was immune to Crucio. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Consort
Antonin Dolohov:: You may cast the Imperius Curse on a player at night to choose the target of their night action. Your target will not realize they were Imperiused the first time you curse them. Your target will realize they were Imperiused the second time you curse them. Players become immune to Imperius after two curses. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Witch
Peter Pettigrew: You may frame a player at night. Other players that investigate your target that night will believe them to be a Death Eater. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Framer
Barty Crouch Jr.: You may use a polyjuice potion to change your appearance to that of another player at night. Anyone that targets you on the night you use a polyjuice potion will target your polyjuice target instead. Start with two polyjuice poitions. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Tailor


Albus Dumbledore: During the day you may reveal yourself to be Chief Warlock of the Wizengamot. After you reveal, you will have 3 votes for day time lynches. Being the noble hero that you are, once revealed you will not allow Poppy to devote any healing to you at night.AKA Mayor
Severus Snape: You have access to the Death Eater night chat and you will appear to be a Death Eater to the other Death Eaters. You will not know the targets Death Eaters each night. You will not know the identity of the Death Eaters. Has the dark mark. Unique role

Ravenclaw:
Quirinus Quirrell: You may cast Legilimens on a player at night, learning a clue pertaining to their role. Investigator
Amelia Bones: You may check a player for the dark mark at night revealing whether or not they are a Death Eater. You will know if your target is a dementor. AKA Sheriff
Sybill Telawney: You may cast divination on a player at night, revealing their target that night. AKA Detective
Xenophilius Lovegood: You may place a ward at player's house at night, you will see all players that target your target that night. AKA Lookout

Gryffindor:
Mad-Eye Moody: You may go on alert at night. On a night that you go on alert, you will kill everyone that visits your house. Your constant vigilance allows you to ignore night immunity. You are immune to night death on nights you go on alert. You will be informed of everyone who visits your house on nights you go on alert. You may only go on alert 3 times. AKA Veteran
Minerva McGonagall: You may protect another player at night. If another would attack your target, you will force them to duel you. You and the attacker will both die but the player you protect will survive. AKA Bodyguard
Gideon Prewett: You may cast Avada Kedavra on a player at night, killing them. You may only cast the killing curse twice. You will know if your target is immune to the killing curse. AKA Vigilante

Hufflepuff:
Poppy Pomfrey: At night, you may use your advanced healing magic to resurrect one player so long as they died on the night you targeted them. You will know if your target needed resurrecting. AKA Doctor
Alice Longbottom: You may cast Stupefy at a player at night, stunning them and blocking their action. You will know if your target was immune to stupefy. AKA Escort
Stan the Knight Bus Conductor: You may swap the locations of two players at night. Your targets will not know they were swapped.AKA Bus Driver
Frank Longbottom: You may protect another player at night. If another would attack your target, you will force them to duel you. You and the attacker will both die but the player you protect will survive. AKA Bodyguard

Dementor: You are immune to night death. You may kiss a player at night, killing them. If you are targeted by a Crucio or Stupify you will kill the caster instead of your original target. You will know if your target is immune to the Dementor's kiss. Wins ties with the death eaters. AKA Serial Killer
Boggart: You may visit a player at night you will frighten them(they will be informed of your visit) but it will allow you to become the investigative pairing of your choosing for the night. You do not have the dark mark and will not appear to be a Death Eater to Amelia Bones. If lynched you will kill the last person to visit you at night. The last person to submit a night action will be killed if multiple people target you in the same name. This can not be healed through. AKA Jester
Griphook the Goblin: A member of Magical England has the sword of Godric Gryffindor. He is a thief, in possession of goblin property. See that wizard lynched for the crime of theft. If your target dies at night the killer will be assumed to have taken possession of the sword(becomes the new target). AKA Executioner
Ghost: You are a soul unbound to a body. Despite this fact, avada kedavra can destroy you and a dementor can eat you. You may resist them though sheer force of will but your will is not without limit. You may make yourself immune to destruction for a night on three separate nights. AKA Survivor
House-Elf: By the end of the second night you must choose a master. His goals are your goals. If he is killed you may use the same magic as him for the rest of the game. After your masters death you will appear to investigators as your master would. Your master if informed of your allegiance. If you choose a member of the Death Eaters as your master you will gain access to their night chat. AKA Student

Fixed one more time lol

[Nepene]

Based on the interactions of the day, I'd peg Ika, powerofdeath, and low possibility Placid Platypus (being new) as death eaters or some sort of deadly neutral due to their votes. Orpz's behavior, while rather irrational, is more the behavior of someone bored with their role and making drama than someone who is a death eater. It seems very unlikely that someone would openly reveal their knowledge (which they lacked) and people like the above trying to start a bandwagon of death is more likely the behavior of people who want less discussion than the behavior of citizens who are working to gather as much information as possible.

I'd peg Ika as the most likely prospect for a death eater. With flimsy reasoning they tried to early game cause a death, which is very much anti town.

[Nepene]

Oh, and, no reports. I wonder why Citrus was targeted...

They were. 1 Helpful to new players. Obvious target.

They were 2. Friendly with Kusco. Would that make him more likely or less to target them as mafia, if he was one? I don't know. Generally I'd assume there would be some implicit debt that would reduce the chance of a murder.

3. Accused by Orpz of being a framer.

4. Hinted that they were Snape. Later suggested that longer days would give death eaters more time to find Snape. Accused

Orpz, Numbertwo, louiswill, ika
ika (1):
Damus_Graves

Due to skips.

Ika argued with him, using a questionable rule interpretation.

>also if we cut day short they will have less to go on for hunting snape as well.

Argued with them some more about mass role call.

Orbz accused him of being a death eater.

Az (voldemort) mostly did nothing.

Assuming that the death eaters are irrational, they are most likely to have targeted someone they had an argument. That makes Ika a high probability target- he was arguing with the almost murdered victim about ending the day early- something he is trying to do again here.

[Numbertwo]

I was roleblocked last night :( Im guessing they have a consort.

[Numbertwo]

Ika sounds like a executioner tbh. He was voting on orpz yesterday aswell.

[Nepene]

I was roleblocked last night :( Im guessing they have a consort.

Bellatrix Lestrange or Alice Longbottom I guess.

Do we have an executioner role in this game?

[Numbertwo]

Do we have an executioner role in this game?
Griphook the Goblin

[Nepene]

Ah, that meaning.

That would be worrying. It would explain his singular focus on him though.

[ika]

my alarm went off and woke me up so i decided to see what i have missed and heres what i have noted.


Based on the interactions of the day, I'd peg Ika, powerofdeath, and low possibility Placid Platypus (being new) as death eaters or some sort of deadly neutral due to their votes. Orpz's behavior, while rather irrational, is more the behavior of someone bored with their role and making drama than someone who is a death eater. It seems very unlikely that someone would openly reveal their knowledge (which they lacked) and people like the above trying to start a bandwagon of death is more likely the behavior of people who want less discussion than the behavior of citizens who are working to gather as much information as possible.

I'd peg Ika as the most likely prospect for a death eater. With flimsy reasoning they tried to early game cause a death, which is very much anti town.

I have orpz pegged as scum due to the interactions from azurize from day one, what i have seen from it is that he was talking about how azurie could be night immune and would die n1. his lookout claim is plausable but his "i need these questions answered via pm" is off-setting. to me something isnt adding up.


Oh, and, no reports. I wonder why Citrus was targeted...

They were. 1 Helpful to new players. Obvious target.

They were 2. Friendly with Kusco. Would that make him more likely or less to target them as mafia, if he was one? I don't know. Generally I'd assume there would be some implicit debt that would reduce the chance of a murder.

3. Accused by Orpz of being a framer.

4. Hinted that they were Snape. Later suggested that longer days would give death eaters more time to find Snape. Accused

Orpz, Numbertwo, louiswill, ika
ika (1):
Damus_Graves

Due to skips.

Ika argued with him, using a questionable rule interpretation.

>also if we cut day short they will have less to go on for hunting snape as well.

Argued with them some more about mass role call.

Orbz accused him of being a death eater.

Az (voldemort) mostly did nothing.

Assuming that the death eaters are irrational, they are most likely to have targeted someone they had an argument. That makes Ika a high probability target- he was arguing with the almost murdered victim about ending the day early- something he is trying to do again here.

I have a feeling I know why cirtus was targeted, however if i go into it i would most likely end up outing a role. But this post does make me think, if citus was attacked and was being said "citus is framer" makes me have an indication that orpz is Peter Pettigrew. If you notice they fall into the same pairing of investigation as lookout.


Ika sounds like a executioner tbh. He was voting on orpz yesterday aswell.

Correction: i fake voted orpz on no-lynch for trolling. I do want to ask why you defend him? Also what do you think about orpz lookout claim with a "nobody visited my target" feedback. How i see it, hes just trying to claim some role to save his butt becasue i caught him.

[ika]

Ah, that meaning.

That would be worrying. It would explain his singular focus on him though.

correction again: i focus on him due to interactions with scum, however why is it worrying that i single him out? I have a focus on him today due tot he fact that i am most likly right, the next 2 people on my list would be damus and numbertwo based off the interactions. I am looking for the scum interactions from azurie and drawing conclusions from there.

[Nepene]

I have orpz pegged as scum due to the interactions from azurize from day one

His interaction weren't especially out of character- he was being fairly paranoid and random on day one, likely due to trolling.

Your interactions though... you were actively arguing with Az about the need for shorter days. Short days is well known to be a mafia desire since information wins it for townies. Your behavior is far more suspicious by your own standards.


his lookout claim is plausable but his "i need these questions answered via pm" is off-setting. to me something isnt adding up.

Not really. He had some rule clarification he needed to ask our leader about. I've done the same- I asked him if Griphook getting his kill meant game over for all of us.

Thinking about it, that could be a good backup win condition. It'd be better to let Griphook win than death eaters.

Asking for more information isn't a sign of weakness, it's a sign of strength.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAHZPU608II

It sorta reminds me of this scene from lotr. You are suggesting things to be true that are directly contrary for reality. If you are a mafia player, this is a terrible disguise, if you are a town player you are acting very suspiciously. Telling people they have to rush rush rush is not good town behavior.


I have a feeling I know why cirtus was targeted, however if i go into it i would most likely end up outing a role.

I wonder where you could get such a feeling on why the mafia killed someone.


But this post does make me think, if citus was attacked and was being said "citus is framer" makes me have an indication that orpz is Peter Pettigrew. If you notice they fall into the same pairing of investigation as lookout.

That would be contingent on them being a death eater, and I haven't seen good evidence of that. I thought you were all crazy in day one. I didn't post because of it.

[Nepene]

correction again: i focus on him due to interactions with scum, however why is it worrying that i single him out? I have a focus on him today due tot he fact that i am most likly right, the next 2 people on my list would be damus and numbertwo based off the interactions. I am looking for the scum interactions from azurie and drawing conclusions from there.

Azzie didn't really interact with anyone as far as I remember. He probably thought himself so smart, cunningly hiding out of sight, then because of the luck of the draw he was out on turn one, thanks to the wise thinking of louiswill.

It would be worrying if your focus was because you were a goblin, and we'd lose if we did what you said. Voting for Orb is very high risk.

[ika]

His interaction weren't especially out of character- he was being fairly paranoid and random on day one, likely due to trolling.

Your interactions though... you were actively arguing with Az about the need for shorter days. Short days is well known to be a mafia desire since information wins it for townies. Your behavior is far more suspicious by your own standards.

I wanted to go past day one, all we had was trolling and nonsensical stuff. I wanted to get some real scum hunting done.

Not really. He had some rule clarification he needed to ask our leader about. I've done the same- I asked him if Griphook getting his kill meant game over for all of us.

Thinking about it, that could be a good backup win condition. It'd be better to let Griphook win than death eaters.

it is usally said that game would continue, if the game ended day 2 it would be no fun for any player.

Asking for more information isn't a sign of weakness, it's a sign of strength.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAHZPU608II

It sorta reminds me of this scene from lotr. You are suggesting things to be true that are directly contrary for reality. If you are a mafia player, this is a terrible disguise, if you are a town player you are acting very suspiciously. Telling people they have to rush rush rush is not good town behavior.

im not telling people to rush today, im just saying that based off the interactons of azurie had its plausable, if you have a better suggestion you could show me then. I am merly trying to spark discussion.

I wonder where you could get such a feeling on why the mafia killed someone.

its more of the fact that what cirtus role is most likely. If you read day one cirtus role seems somewhat obvious unless its wifom

That would be contingent on them being a death eater, and I haven't seen good evidence of that. I thought you were all crazy in day one. I didn't post because of it.

Also food for thoughts, scince some people think im executioner with orpz as target, woudltn it be easier to claim sheriff and say he has death eater mark?

[ika]

Azzie didn't really interact with anyone as far as I remember. He probably thought himself so smart, cunningly hiding out of sight, then because of the luck of the draw he was out on turn one, thanks to the wise thinking of louiswill.

It would be worrying if your focus was because you were a goblin, and we'd lose if we did what you said. Voting for Orb is very high risk.

Yes but there were interactions netherless, if you like i will dig up the posts that indicate the interactions.

your sencond sentance is rather intresting, can you elaborate on why voting orpz is high risk. The key thing that seems off aobut it is how you say vote and not lynch. What it sounds liek is that voting him is high risk but not lynching him.

[Numbertwo]

Ika I think its suspicious that ika immidiatly vote on orpz claiming that he knew that azurie was immune. It's allmost like ika also knew that he was immune. At least orpz has claimed a role.

[Nepene]

Yeah, I checked, game continues.

I for one am willing to offer allegiance to a neutral creature who is playing. If they claim and can support their role I think it would be quite reasonable to make a friendly wizard agreement to try and fulfill their goals while also killing all scum. Anyways.


I wanted to go past day one, all we had was trolling and nonsensical stuff. I wanted to get some real scum hunting done.

While that is a fair argument, I too wanted to go past day one because it was inane, that was not what you said back then.


also that, we arent going to get much w/o the actual ability to use pressure and threaten lynch.

You were arguing that it was a genuine matter of good policy that you skip day one because you can't do much without pressure and threatening to lynch, ignoring the (now obvious) treasure trove of all that conversation that we can use to examine people.


im not telling people to rush today, im just saying that based off the interactons of azurie had its plausable, if you have a better suggestion you could show me then. I am merly trying to spark discussion.

You've mentioned this several times. What scum interactions did you see?


its more of the fact that what cirtus role is most likely. If you read day one cirtus role seems somewhat obvious unless its wifom

Yeah. You bringing this up isn't really congruent with you being a good townie. If you wanted to help them conceal, why mention it? Maybe they hadn't spotted it.



Also food for thoughts, scince some people think im executioner with orpz as target, woudltn it be easier to claim sheriff and say he has death eater mark?

Claiming high power rolls as a protection tends to look suspicious.


your sencond sentance is rather intresting, can you elaborate on why voting orpz is high risk. The key thing that seems off aobut it is how you say vote and not lynch. What it sounds liek is that voting him is high risk but not lynching him.

That wasn't really my intention. I originally thought that we'd lose if the goblin got someone lynched. I was using vote to mean lynch. Lynching a goblin target that loses you the game would be beyond high risk.

[ika]

Ika I think its suspicious that ika immidiatly vote on orpz claiming that he knew that azurie was immune. It's allmost like ika also knew that he was immune. At least orpz has claimed a role.

Setup says voltimort is immune, also day one gave indicationt hat orpz seems to have known it as well.

@new post

im responding to key point here,

cirtus was protected by bg, the reasons are still unknown but what else am i suppose to say to it woitout direcly mentioning it?

claiming pr is much easier then doiging what im doing, if you dont know me as an executioner, i would of done the easy way out of it can merly claimed sheriff. Is it suspicous? yes. but would it hold more grounds? most likely.

as for orpz knowing, i will built the case as it seems i must. this will end up rying my brain and prob put me out for the rest of the day becasue of how much it takes out of me.

[ika]

new players

wat is ur role?
wat is ur RP name?

this post is just blaitent role fishing


found the framer.

this was in respons to cirtus, now him claiming lookout makes sense but it could also be him saying becasue he is framer himself


Good morning, gents.

Let's make this a good game, I'm still bitter about the last one I played.


Pls skip so i can kill u at night


plz no Parcher-kun


sorry sorkin san

unless u r immune u will die

this was the first interaction that stuck me. the setup says they all know each other (death eater and voltimort) however how i see it is that orpz knew azurie had the mark or was death eater and was saying that not knowing azurie is volimort himself.


d1 skip
n1 azuriae
d2 mislynch damus
n2 nepene
d3 mislynch ika

here is more just odd things, but i feel like if orpz is to flip scum, this would be a great indicator to use. it just feels like that its a secret list of scums or something


yes

i will let u all no if hes immune

again looks like more scum interaction from my pov at least. hes highly acting like hes a vig or something



y do u think this? r u a death eater telling ur teammate to unvote skip day?

here is what is one of the most unsettling post, this post sounds like he is balitenly saying that his teammates are being idiots.

also i want to add in that orpz wanted day 1 mass role claim but would not claim himself (he claims lookout) unless at least half did it. by cirtus question (iirc) framing does affect the invest pairings. it would benifit a framer to frame someone outside of their pairing and then when they get chacked they would become a prime target for a lynch.

i also want to hear who he targeted as well, so far he has claimed lookout with noboddy visting his target. i feel like its just scum delay tactic here and that hes trying to save himself.

huh, i thought this was going to be a lot more but was not..... anyway i am still tired so im heading to sleep.

i do think orpz flips does give us the most infromation overall atm, if he does flip scum i would look into damus/#2/possible kusco next.

day one may have been troll but even those days yeild info. contridictory to what i said about skipping day one. however i wanted to see who would be in favor of skipping it. I have taken some notes on some of the players fro day 2 and think i have a good idea on some things

[Kusco]

Ika, I suggest we wait one day before we lynch Orpz. Day 1 was a troll day. He can (somewhat) prove his role tonight by watching someone and verifying another's action.

I would like to know his target was.


No one visited my target.

[Orpz]

My question was answered.

I am Lookout, no one visited me last night.

idr exact wording but my question was something like:

Will I see Bus Driver visit me if he swaps someone with me, or only if he swaps me with someone?

[Orpz]

this post is just blaitent role fishing



this was in respons to cirtus, now him claiming lookout makes sense but it could also be him saying becasue he is framer himself









this was the first interaction that stuck me. the setup says they all know each other (death eater and voltimort) however how i see it is that orpz knew azurie had the mark or was death eater and was saying that not knowing azurie is volimort himself.



here is more just odd things, but i feel like if orpz is to flip scum, this would be a great indicator to use. it just feels like that its a secret list of scums or something



again looks like more scum interaction from my pov at least. hes highly acting like hes a vig or something




here is what is one of the most unsettling post, this post sounds like he is balitenly saying that his teammates are being idiots.

also i want to add in that orpz wanted day 1 mass role claim but would not claim himself (he claims lookout) unless at least half did it. by cirtus question (iirc) framing does affect the invest pairings. it would benifit a framer to frame someone outside of their pairing and then when they get chacked they would become a prime target for a lynch.

i also want to hear who he targeted as well, so far he has claimed lookout with noboddy visting his target. i feel like its just scum delay tactic here and that hes trying to save himself.

huh, i thought this was going to be a lot more but was not..... anyway i am still tired so im heading to sleep.

i do think orpz flips does give us the most infromation overall atm, if he does flip scum i would look into damus/#2/possible kusco next.

day one may have been troll but even those days yeild info. contridictory to what i said about skipping day one. however i wanted to see who would be in favor of skipping it. I have taken some notes on some of the players fro day 2 and think i have a good idea on some things

go away Exec

[Kusco]

My question was answered.

I am Lookout, no one visited me last night.

idr exact wording but my question was something like:

Will I see Bus Driver visit me if he swaps someone with me, or only if he swaps me with someone?

Why not ask in the thread? Since you had already claimed your role, there was no point in hiding this.

How do you know that you were bus driven? If you saw no one visit your target, how do you know that it wasn't your target that you watched?

[Orpz]

Why not ask in the thread? Since you had already claimed your role, there was no point in hiding this.

How do you know that you were bus driven? If you saw no one visit your target, how do you know that it wasn't your target that you watched?

According to Gyb, I would have seen the BD. So no one visited me last night.

Anyways, for the new players, what this also means is no one has shit on me and this train is likely the work of an Executioner Ika.

ika

[Orpz]

[2:45:57 AM] Frog: Orpz rap battling is so OP

shoutout to Frog, thx for ur support

love my fans cant be hear without u guys

[Orpz]

Btw if there are other Sybils, keep it to yourself. RP names are not unique so counterclaiming is a waste of both our times, thx.

[Orpz]

Xenos*****

Honest mistake, I just woke up and was rereading the setup for the RP names and it got mixed in my head.

[Kusco]

Oh, you targeted yourself.

Why'd you do that?

[Orpz]

Oh, you targeted yourself.

Why'd you do that?

thought someone would stop by

[Nepene]

I think the unambiguous balance of bad evidence is heavily on the side of Ika. Orbz has redeemed their explanations and come up with a fully consistant one. Every statement Ika has made has dug their hole more deeply. They even asked me how they could better hide their duplicity in another game. If Ika is innocent, they are a trolling townie and we should take them out anyway. Anyway,

Ika

[Orpz]

I'm visiting myself again tonight. Requesting a Bodyguard/Doctor to heal me so that we may have two confirmed Towns and then I can watch them and they heal me.

Dementor should not attack me in the chance I flip Death Eater.

[Nepene]

I have somewhat made myself a target too, leading an accusation against Ika. If he dies and is scum I'd also like some protection, though that is hard to coordinate.

[Citrus]

According to Gyb, I would have seen the BD. So no one visited me last night.

Anyways, for the new players, what this also means is no one has shit on me and this train is likely the work of an Executioner Ika.

ika

Orpz

[Citrus]

Actually I should have checked the vote counter first, but L-2 is fine for now

Just read through the thread, and I am pretty confident an orpz lynch is best today.

Also super kudos to Louis for that night action :idea:

Does everyone realize since Noone cc'ed me for being attacked, I'm effectively clear of being a death eater? And since there's no citizens this game, I find it very scummy orpz asked for the doctor if one exists.

1) there's a relatively clear player already attacked that would be a better heal target, and they're not a citizen via the setup type
2) he's trying to direct important town roles

[Orpz]

alright alright this wifom isn't gonna pay off

I'm mad eye moody

I know no one visited me because there are no vet kills.
I joked about killing Azuriae because I was hoping scum would visit me
I wanted a mass role call so I can claim Doctor/BG.
I softed Doctor/BG by saying "There are at least 1 Doctor/BG in this game."

[Citrus]

I'm going to have some fun looking at the lynch trains tonight heh

Oh and new players (and everyone else) remember to put all night actions and thoughts in your last will/pensieve unless there's a very specific good reason not to

[Citrus]

alright alright this wifom isn't gonna pay off

I'm mad eye moody

I know no one visited me because there are no vet kills.
I joked about killing Azuriae because I was hoping scum would visit me
I wanted a mass role call so I can claim Doctor/BG.
I softed Doctor/BG by saying "There are at least 1 Doctor/BG in this game."

You literally just asked for any remaining town protective to visit you tonight. As "mad eye moody"

:D

orpz

[Orpz]

You literally just asked for any remaining town protective to visit you tonight. As "mad eye moody"

:D

orpz

wifom

[Citrus]

Also noting you soft claim you went on alert but don't hard claim it (attitude thing, if you were moody I think you'd be more likely to outright say you were on alert but that's a small behavior thing)

I'll put a better explanation about orpz together later for anyone that wants it, but I'm positive now he should be the lynch for today.

Please nobody early hammer on accident.

[Citrus]

wifom

More like, trying to guarantee your team actually pulls off a kill tonight instead of failing again. That was incredibly anti-town to do if you're actually moody

[Orpz]

More like, trying to guarantee your team actually pulls off a kill tonight instead of failing again. That was incredibly anti-town to do if you're actually moody

One Doctor/BG already died. IF another one exists, I don't see the reasoning behind actually healing someone who says "Heal me pls"
Furthermore, I told Dementor to screw off, hoping he'd show up to kiss me.
Consort was likely the role that would have gotten pwned by me to prevent me from "confirming the healer".

Also, I retracted.

[Citrus]

One Doctor/BG already died. IF another one exists, I don't see the reasoning behind actually healing someone who says "Heal me pls"
Furthermore, I told Dementor to screw off, hoping he'd show up to kiss me.
Consort was likely the role that would have gotten pwned by me to prevent me from "confirming the healer".

Also, I retracted.

That's an incredibly high risk. We're also playing with new players that may end up doing so if it's within their power. Otherwise what's the point of saying "heal me pls" ever? I'm sorry, but I just don't buy it.

Right now the question for me is not are you town, but what flavor of neutral if you are not death eater.

[Orpz]

That's an incredibly high risk. We're also playing with new players that may end up doing so if it's within their power. Otherwise what's the point of saying "heal me pls" ever? I'm sorry, but I just don't buy it.

Right now the question for me is not are you town, but what flavor of neutral if you are not death eater.

some1 pls witch Citrus onto me

[Citrus]

some1 pls witch Citrus onto me

Fine by me, you're not Veteran so I won't die :P

If he flips death eater I'm considering my night action tonight void due to direction of scum

[Orpz]

Also food for thoughts, scince some people think im executioner with orpz as target, woudltn it be easier to claim sheriff and say he has death eater mark?

No one does this in FM, ever, and you know that.
This is pretty much a confession. If you check setup, Exec's target is always Town.

[Orpz]

Again, if I was Death Eater, why would I call for a mass role call without coordinating with my teammates?

[Orpz]

the train against me has more holes than ur dad's condom

#rekt

[ika]

ok im back let me see what i missed

[ika]

No one does this in FM, ever, and you know that.
This is pretty much a confession. If you check setup, Exec's target is always Town.

first thing first to punch a hole in this


Griphook the Goblin: A member of Magical England has the sword of Godric Gryffindor. He is a thief, in possession of goblin property. See that wizard lynched for the crime of theft. If your target dies at night the killer will be assumed to have taken possession of the sword(becomes the new target).

nowhere does it say that target starts town

[ika]

i noticed a lot from citus that will end up me being rehashisng stuff but i will go through and point out orpz flaws

[Orpz]

first thing first to punch a hole in this



nowhere does it say that target starts town

Griphook the Goblin is highlighted in the setup. Ika's isn't highlighted therefore he must have gotten it from PM's.
A member of "Magical England" = A member of Town.

gg Ika is exec.

[Kusco]

Griphook the Goblin is highlighted in the setup. Ika's isn't highlighted therefore he must have gotten it from PM's.
A member of "Magical England" = A member of Town.

gg Ika is exec.

Perhaps Ika just copy-pasted instead of quoting. Sometimes I do that because it's easier than erasing a whole setup.

[Orpz]

votes on a no lynch day.

i shall join

-vote Orpz

his very first vote lols

[Kusco]

his very first vote lols

So what? If he's exec he's exec. It doesn't make you anything. It doesn't give us any information about you.

[Orpz]

If he's Exec it means I'm Town.

100% sure he's Exec. 100% sure I'm Town.

Lynch him.

[Kusco]

If he's Exec it means I'm Town.

100% sure he's Exec. 100% sure I'm Town.

Lynch him.

But you don't know for certain that he's exec. That's the problem. He's acting like one, yes, but it proves nothing.

[Orpz]

But you don't know for certain that he's exec. That's the problem. He's acting like one, yes, but it proves nothing.

lols didnt u guys justify my train with

"We dont know for certain that he's scum. But he's acting like one, yes, so let's lynch him"

[Nepene]

Given the issues that seem to be arising, I think I can best serve with a role call. I am Quirinus Quirrell. I investigated Orbz for obvious reasons, and found out that their mind was as such.
"You are completely unable to grasp your target's mind, your target is either Dumbledore, Voldemort, Sybill Telawny or a Ghost"

Given their lies, they are almost certainly ghost. I thought this was extremely likely (and even very openly hinted that I'd be fine allying with them), but Orbz couldn't stick to a story and so I am forced to step in to tell people. Voldemort is dead, so they are not scum, and if they were Dumbledore or Sybill there would be issues. I suppose we could kill Orbz, but Orbz isn't really a priority.

That is a major reason why I was defending them before (beyond their lack of doing anything guilty).

[Kusco]

lols didnt u guys justify my train with

"We dont know for certain that he's scum. But he's acting like one, yes, so let's lynch him"

I'm not on your train, now am I?

[Orpz]

Given the issues that seem to be arising, I think I can best serve with a role call. I am Quirinus Quirrell. I investigated Orbz for obvious reasons, and found out that their mind was as such.
"You are completely unable to grasp your target's mind, your target is either Dumbledore, Voldemort, Sybill Telawny or a Ghost"

Given their lies, they are almost certainly ghost. I thought this was extremely likely (and even very openly hinted that I'd be fine allying with them), but Orbz couldn't stick to a story and so I am forced to step in to tell people. Voldemort is dead, so they are not scum, and if they were Dumbledore or Sybill there would be issues. I suppose we could kill Orbz, but Orbz isn't really a priority.

That is a major reason why I was defending them before (beyond their lack of doing anything guilty).

this is all kinds of fucked up feedback but I agree

[Orpz]

Nepene

His info is so far off I'm betting Consigliere trying to associate with me to make me look scummy.

[Orpz]

nah that was the panic talking

[Orpz]

Anyways, I'm not Ghost otherwise I would have said something. Not Voldemort because Voldemort is dead. Not Dumbledore/Sybil obviously.

Told you guys I was bussed.