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Azuriae
November 11th, 2013, 08:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGtDJheBlTA
S-FM: The Tyranny of Mad King George
Game Thread

Azuriae
November 13th, 2013, 07:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13DkD-FBC04
Day 1: Awakening

[No RP today because I'm way busy. Deal with it.]


Rolelist:

The Mad Bluecoats

King George Washington, Wielder of the Apple of Eden
[The Mad King]
General Isreal Putnam
[Hidden Bluecoat]
General Benedict Arnold
[Hidden Bluecoat]

The Resistance

Ratonhnaké:ton/Connor Kenway
[Hidden Villager]
Kanen'tó:kon, Village Chief
[Hidden Villager]
Kaniehtí:io, Connor's Mother
[Hidden Villager]
Oiá:ner, The Clan Mother
[Hidden Villager]
Kahionhaténion, Spirit Brother
[Hidden Villager]
Teiowí:sonte, Spirit Brother
[Hidden Villager]
Samuel Adams, Leader of the Resistance
[Hidden Villager]
The Great Spirit
[The Willow Tree]


Benjamin Franklin, Broken Polymath
[Hidden Neutral]

Robert Faulkner, Pirate Extraordinaire
[Hidden Neutral]


Alive Players: 13

Banshis
Bruno
Bunny
CarolinaCrown
Citrus
Damus_Graves
Mateo
Noctiz
Orpz
Poriomania
RLVG
Slaol
TheDarkestLight


Graveyard:
-

7

Setup (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21890-S-FM-The-Tyranny-of-Mad-King-George)
The day will end at this time (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=november+14+2013+10%3A00+PM+EST&x=-1244&y=-71)

Citrus
November 13th, 2013, 07:59 PM
First!

Have I played with you before? Bruno

Had some free time prior to this game starting, so some stuff I came up with below.

Last will recommendations:

Please keep track of what powers you voted via PM in your last wills. It may end up being useful later on in the game should you die.

Preliminary questions to contemplate and answer:

1. What do you all think of the Willow Tree?

a) Optimal powers for d1

b) Should we try to organize hidden (PM) power votes? Reveal them that day or reveal the previous day's vote as the game progresses? Keep in mind Willow Tree knows which powers won every night

2. Role list speculation?

a) Guesses as to the roles of the Bluecoats

b) Guesses on the mixture of the two neutrals - killer v evil v benign

c) Guesses on the number of citizens

d) Guesses on Town roles/matchups between town and bluecoat roles

3. Lynch day start

a) Anyone hell-bent on not lynching today or lynching today? Keep in mind possibilities of Jailor/Kidnapper

I have answers to these questions already, but I would like to see others' thoughts/want to wait a bit before posting them.

Setup questions:

If the Willow Tree dies, is it random which player receives which power? Or predetermined?
ex: Neutrals are Serial Killer and Jester, Serial Killer receives the power if alive and Willow Tree dies, otherwise Jester receives power.
Can both the PM vote and public vote be for the same power?
If there is a tie in power votes (ex: 3-way tie), will the selected powers be random among the tie?
Jester visit is stated to have no effect. Can a jester visit contribute to the 2 neutral visits required to kill the Willow Tree?
Does Sheriff determine whether someone is exactly neutral, exactly bluecoat, or just that they are not town/willow tree?
Does jailing a bluecoat cause them to lose their mafia nightchat?
Can a witch make the Willow Tree gives himself powers or does noone get the power that night?


Things to point out:
a) Journalist is easily confirmable with no similar evil role. Would make a great target for Willow Tree powers.
b) Kidnapper and Jailor both get 1 execution

Orpz
November 13th, 2013, 08:00 PM
Bruno

I volunteer for Town leader. Soon as I finish my hw.

Orpz
November 13th, 2013, 08:01 PM
-vote Power of the Eagle

no brainer for this one

Thinking of Pack or Wolf for the other vote.

Azuriae
November 13th, 2013, 08:10 PM
Setup questions:

If the Willow Tree dies, is it random which player receives which power? Or predetermined?
ex: Neutrals are Serial Killer and Jester, Serial Killer receives the power if alive and Willow Tree dies, otherwise Jester receives power.
It is random. One living player of each ''faction'' will receive a power.
Can both the PM vote and public vote be for the same power?
No.
If there is a tie in power votes (ex: 3-way tie), will the selected powers be random among the tie?
Yes. Best not make this happen, hm?
Jester visit is stated to have no effect. Can a jester visit contribute to the 2 neutral visits required to kill the Willow Tree?
No. Jester is not a Neutral Evil.
Does Sheriff determine whether someone is exactly neutral, exactly bluecoat, or just that they are not town/willow tree?
He will learn if they are Evil Neutral or a Bluecoat.
Does jailing a bluecoat cause them to lose their mafia nightchat?
Yes.
Can a witch make the Willow Tree gives himself powers or does noone get the power that night?
A Witch would make this happen.

TheDarkestLight
November 13th, 2013, 08:26 PM
Bruno

I volunteer for Town leader. Soon as I finish my hw.

Orpz

I never liked when people come out and ask it, always seemed scummy.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 08:29 PM
a) Anyone hell-bent on not lynching today

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/Guardman/Lol%20Cats/notsureaboutthat.jpg (http://s51.photobucket.com/user/Guardman/media/Lol%20Cats/notsureaboutthat.jpg.html)

Orpz
November 13th, 2013, 08:32 PM
Orpz

I never liked when people come out and ask it, always seemed scummy.

It's not really a request. Think of it as a warning of my eventual takeover.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 08:34 PM
It's not really a request. Think of it as a warning of my eventual takeover.

[spoiler=img]http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/Guardman/Lol%20Cats/iseewhatyoudidhere.jpg (http://s51.photobucket.com/user/Guardman/media/Lol%20Cats/iseewhatyoudidhere.jpg.html)[/img]

Bunny
November 13th, 2013, 08:37 PM
Hellohelloo everyone!

TheDarkestLight
November 13th, 2013, 08:40 PM
Last will recommendations:


Please keep track of what powers you voted via PM in your last wills. It may end up being useful later on in the game should you die.

No brainer.

Preliminary questions to contemplate and answer:

1. What do you all think of the Willow Tree?


Town Role basically. Fills multiple roles, likely we don't have a Vigilante as he fills the killing spot. Pretty much invulnerable as unless he just flat out claims I doubt he will die any time soon...

a) Optimal powers for d1

b) Should we try to organize hidden (PM) power votes? Reveal them that day or reveal the previous day's vote as the game progresses? Keep in mind Willow Tree knows which powers won every night

2. Role list speculation?

a) Guesses as to the roles of the Bluecoats

Mad King -derp- Kidnapper, Framer.

b) Guesses on the mixture of the two neutrals - killer v evil v benign

Electromaniac and Amnesiac

c) Guesses on the number of citizens

Three or four due to the Willow Tree filling multiple roles.

d) Guesses on Town roles/matchups between town and bluecoat roles

We might not have an investigative due to the tree. Probably not a Jailor due to Willow Tree, and the Kidnapper could confuse us into thinking he is a legit Jailor since he is the only one jailing.

3. Lynch day start

a) Anyone hell-bent on not lynching today or lynching today? Keep in mind possibilities of Jailor/Kidnapper

Lynch if necessary.



There.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 08:41 PM
Hellohelloo everyone!

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/Guardman/Lol%20Cats/lolcatmafia2.jpg (http://s51.photobucket.com/user/Guardman/media/Lol%20Cats/lolcatmafia2.jpg.html)

Orpz
November 13th, 2013, 08:42 PM
Azuriae pls turn off autoplay

TheDarkestLight
November 13th, 2013, 08:43 PM
It's not really a request. Think of it as a warning of my eventual takeover.

#notgonnahappen

TheDarkestLight
November 13th, 2013, 08:44 PM
Azuriae pls turn off autoplay

This, I'm trying to listen to music and when I refresh I keep getting this song popping up...

TheDarkestLight
November 13th, 2013, 08:45 PM
-Vote Power of the Eagle

Since I believe we might not have any investigative roles...

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 08:48 PM
good morning.

Poriomania, I tolerated that the last game and I don't want to listen to it again. stop the cat pictures.

Orpz, Thats fine if you wanna be town leader. Why did you vote Bruno?

@Sheep, why did you follow onto the Bruno vote.


Hello Bunny

TheDarkestLight
November 13th, 2013, 08:49 PM
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f382/Guardman/Lol%20Cats/lolcatmafia2.jpg (http://s51.photobucket.com/user/Guardman/media/Lol%20Cats/lolcatmafia2.jpg.html)

Contribute with words. I swear to god if you use pictures...

Orpz
November 13th, 2013, 08:51 PM
good morning.

Poriomania, I tolerated that the last game and I don't want to listen to it again. stop the cat pictures.

Orpz, Thats fine if you wanna be town leader. Why did you vote Bruno?

@Sheep, why did you follow onto the Bruno vote.


Hello Bunny

Haven't played an FM with him before, and he was online at the time.
It was a good opportunity to see how he'd react.

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 08:52 PM
@Host
Turn off the Autoplay if you don't mind. Its to troubling to hear.

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 08:54 PM
-vote Power of the Eagle

Orpz
November 13th, 2013, 08:58 PM
Upon further thinking, I suggest voting for the vest in private.

The 1-time Immune doesn't seem at all that useful, but I'm not thinking much about it. Plus, it can potentially nullify the Eagle power.

As per not voting the gun, we don't know how competent the Willow Tree is, so I'd rather not trust him to pass a gun tonight.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 08:59 PM
Poriomania, I tolerated that the last game and I don't want to listen to it again. stop the cat pictures.


-_-^.^


Contribute with words. I swear to god if you use pictures...

:evil:


Haven't played an FM with him before, and he was online at the time.
It was a good opportunity to see how he'd react.

:)


-vote Power of the Eagle

:S

-vote Power of the Pack

TheDarkestLight
November 13th, 2013, 09:01 PM
Upon further thinking, I suggest voting for the vest in private.

The 1-time Immune doesn't seem at all that useful, but I'm not thinking much about it. Plus, it can potentially nullify the Eagle power.

As per not voting the gun, we don't know how competent the Willow Tree is, so I'd rather not trust him to pass a gun tonight.

To add to this. Vests only hurt the Mafia, since I doubt we have a killing role, also I don't plan on voting for a gun anytime soon.

TheDarkestLight
November 13th, 2013, 09:03 PM
-_-^.^



:evil:



:)



:S

-vote Power of the Pack

Poriomania

1: Use words.
2: Guns will only hurt the town at this point, only scum would want guns out.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 09:03 PM
To add to this. Vests only hurt the Mafia, since I doubt we have a killing role, also I don't plan on voting for a gun anytime soon.:smile:

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 09:04 PM
Poriomania

1: Use words.
2: Guns will only hurt the town at this point, only scum would want guns out.

:idea:

Orpz
November 13th, 2013, 09:05 PM
Poriomania

Lynch number isn't set btw (@Host)

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 09:06 PM
He is playing at Jester.

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 09:06 PM
I actually cannot see the intelligence in that course of action this early.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 09:07 PM
Poriomania

Lynch number isn't set btw (@Host)

;(

TheDarkestLight
November 13th, 2013, 09:08 PM
:idea:

As to the question of a day 1 lynch. I am all for it on this guy if he keeps up with his method of communication.

I highly doubt he is a Jester, only a stupid one of a gambit one would keep this going.

TheDarkestLight
November 13th, 2013, 09:09 PM
As to the question of a day 1 lynch. I am all for it on this guy if he keeps up with his method of communication.

I highly doubt he is a Jester, only a stupid one or a gambit one would keep this going.

Fixed.

Anyways, I'll be back in the morning.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 09:11 PM
Fixed.

Anyways, I'll be back in the morning.

:sad:

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 09:12 PM
Yeah I don't care for this behavior.

Poriomania

Orpz
November 13th, 2013, 09:17 PM
Porio's a reserve on M-FM Voodoo. In that game, there's a player who posts only in pictures. According to some of the posts on the game about that player , that person isn't considered to be a good lynch candidate.

I'd expect Porio to be following that game as a reserve. Therefore I believe he would suspect that posting in pictures would not get him lynched, which is counterproductive to Jester.

So I don't think he's a Jester.

inb4 level 10 wifom manipulator

CarolinaCrown
November 13th, 2013, 09:26 PM
Porio's a reserve on M-FM Voodoo. In that game, there's a player who posts only in pictures. According to some of the posts on the game about that player , that person isn't considered to be a good lynch candidate.

I'd expect Porio to be following that game as a reserve. Therefore I believe he would suspect that posting in pictures would not get him lynched, which is counterproductive to Jester.

So I don't think he's a Jester.

inb4 level 10 wifom manipulator

Jester was my first thought, not because of the pictures but because of the power vote. Then there was WIFOM. Now I kind of think he's a Jester again.

Then again, the pictures are pissing me off. Nothing wrong with a little pressure eh?

Poriomania

-Vote Power of the Eagle

Yeah a pretty obvious choice. And pack is a pretty obvious non-choice.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 09:28 PM
Cool, got some reactions.




Poriomania, I tolerated that the last game and I don't want to listen to it again. stop the cat pictures.


Yeah, I wasn't planning to continue them once the initial phases of Day 1 ended.


Contribute with words. I swear to god if you use pictures...

Fair, fair.

There will be a noticeable drop in wordiness than usual, though - not planning to spend hours doing readwalls after Workplace.


Haven't played an FM with him before, and he was online at the time.
It was a good opportunity to see how he'd react.

I like this post - solid town reasoning of hunting for reactions, which I was doing, in a slightly less provocative way.


Poriomania

1: Use words.
2: Guns will only hurt the town at this point, only scum would want guns out.

1. Okay.
2. Yep, did that for reactions as well.

Tell me - why would I vote for the vig power?


Poriomania

Lynch number isn't set btw (@Host)

Reasoning?


He is playing at Jester.

Reasoning?

Walk me through it.


Porio's a reserve on M-FM Voodoo. In that game, there's a player who posts only in pictures. According to some of the posts on the game about that player , that person isn't considered to be a good lynch candidate.

I'd expect Porio to be following that game as a reserve. Therefore I believe he would suspect that posting in pictures would not get him lynched, which is counterproductive to Jester.

So I don't think he's a Jester.

inb4 level 10 wifom manipulator

I actually started the image post restriction thing, in Avatar as Due. (Though COMs haven't been revealed)

Though this is a good theory for my initial Day 1 actions!


And pack is a pretty obvious non-choice.

Reasoning? Why wouldn't you want Pack?

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 09:29 PM
1. What do you all think of the Willow Tree?

a) Optimal powers for d1

2. Role list speculation?



This is all useless in a vacuum.

What do you think of my actions, and are they worthy of a vote?

I defer to this: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/KXt8Eu3UPWi6 for questions and comments.

Mateo
November 13th, 2013, 09:36 PM
citrus

his first post was all filler no killer, a vote, then poof

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 09:37 PM
citrus

his first post was all filler no killer, a vote, then poof

What do you think of the votes on me?

What do you think about my Power of the Pack voting?

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 09:37 PM
Well Orpz is town.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 09:41 PM
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50240451/Orpz.PNG

See?

CarolinaCrown
November 13th, 2013, 09:42 PM
First!

Have I played with you before? Bruno

Had some free time prior to this game starting, so some stuff I came up with below.

Last will recommendations:

Please keep track of what powers you voted via PM in your last wills. It may end up being useful later on in the game should you die.

Preliminary questions to contemplate and answer:

1. What do you all think of the Willow Tree?

a) Optimal powers for d1

b) Should we try to organize hidden (PM) power votes? Reveal them that day or reveal the previous day's vote as the game progresses? Keep in mind Willow Tree knows which powers won every night

2. Role list speculation?

a) Guesses as to the roles of the Bluecoats

b) Guesses on the mixture of the two neutrals - killer v evil v benign

c) Guesses on the number of citizens

d) Guesses on Town roles/matchups between town and bluecoat roles

3. Lynch day start

a) Anyone hell-bent on not lynching today or lynching today? Keep in mind possibilities of Jailor/Kidnapper

I have answers to these questions already, but I would like to see others' thoughts/want to wait a bit before posting them.

Setup questions:

If the Willow Tree dies, is it random which player receives which power? Or predetermined?
ex: Neutrals are Serial Killer and Jester, Serial Killer receives the power if alive and Willow Tree dies, otherwise Jester receives power.
Can both the PM vote and public vote be for the same power?
If there is a tie in power votes (ex: 3-way tie), will the selected powers be random among the tie?
Jester visit is stated to have no effect. Can a jester visit contribute to the 2 neutral visits required to kill the Willow Tree?
Does Sheriff determine whether someone is exactly neutral, exactly bluecoat, or just that they are not town/willow tree?
Does jailing a bluecoat cause them to lose their mafia nightchat?
Can a witch make the Willow Tree gives himself powers or does noone get the power that night?


Things to point out:
a) Journalist is easily confirmable with no similar evil role. Would make a great target for Willow Tree powers.
b) Kidnapper and Jailor both get 1 execution

1. Eagle is obviously the best choice today.
Are powers time-sensitive? i.e. if granted a power, can a player save it for later?
I also see no reason not to organize hidden PM votes.

2. Sorry I don't do setup guesses - I prefer contingencies. I don't like getting stuck on an inaccurate theory. I think any valuable "discussion" that role list speculation generates can be generated better elsewhere.

3. I think we should lynch today. More votes, more information, more the Willow Tree can analyze to choose the best target to receive the power. I'm betting those power targets are going to make a big difference.


@Poriomania I think Pack is an obvious non-choice because town killing powers tend to be more harmful than helpful early game. It might be a more valid choice depending on the answer to the above setup question.

Orpz
November 13th, 2013, 09:43 PM
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50240451/Orpz.PNG

See?

What a happy coincidence :'D

Banshis
November 13th, 2013, 09:45 PM
Ok I am here. Read through everything and I can sort of see what Porio did. The votes piled on him very fast though so I have a towny vibe from him.

-Vote Power of the Eagle

Azuriae
November 13th, 2013, 09:45 PM
Are powers time-sensitive? i.e. if granted a power, can a player save it for later?

Players may save their powers for later; they do not expire.

Mateo
November 13th, 2013, 09:45 PM
What do you think of the votes on me?

What do you think about my Power of the Pack voting?

i would have voted you too if i was here while u were still doing it, and i dont think guns need to be out right now, though power of the wolf seems the least useful right now

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 09:51 PM
2. Sorry I don't do setup guesses - I prefer contingencies. I don't like getting stuck on an inaccurate theory. I think any valuable "discussion" that role list speculation generates can be generated better elsewhere.

3. I think we should lynch today. More votes, more information, more the Willow Tree can analyze to choose the best target to receive the power. I'm betting those power targets are going to make a big difference.

On the topic of general mafia theory I agree with this. I love lynching and hate speculating on role lists.



@Poriomania I think Pack is an obvious non-choice because town killing powers tend to be more harmful than helpful early game. It might be a more valid choice depending on the answer to the above setup question.

Hmm, really?

My first thought when thinking about Power of the Pack was "OH YES TWO TOWN CONTROLLED LYNCHES, PLUS ANALYZING VOTES AND INFORMATION IN EACH ONE"

While shooting (and giving it!) blindly isn't going to do any favors, there's no denying the power of (functionally!) double lynching every other Day.

Thoughts?

Banshis
November 13th, 2013, 09:52 PM
Jester was my first thought, not because of the pictures but because of the power vote. Then there was WIFOM. Now I kind of think he's a Jester again.

Then again, the pictures are pissing me off. Nothing wrong with a little pressure eh?

Poriomania

-Vote Power of the Eagle

Yeah a pretty obvious choice. And pack is a pretty obvious non-choice.

CarolinaCrown 3 votes on him already and you decide to add a 4th. Wasn't 3 votes enough for a little pressure?

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 09:52 PM
Ok I am here. Read through everything and I can sort of see what Porio did. The votes piled on him very fast though so I have a towny vibe from him.

-Vote Power of the Eagle

Yes, yes! This is much more informative and more better than simply random trolling on Day 1.

I'd wager no less than one scum on my wagon.

Orpz
November 13th, 2013, 09:53 PM
afk

actually have to be doing hw now ;_;

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 09:54 PM
What a happy coincidence :'D

Hey, answer my question.

It's up there somewhere!

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 09:55 PM
For recordkeeping:

Poriomania (4): TheDarkestLight, Orpz, Damus_Graves, CarolinaCrown

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 09:59 PM
Accomplished goal of words instead of pictures.

Hello Banshis

Banshis
November 13th, 2013, 10:00 PM
On the topic of general mafia theory I agree with this. I love lynching and hate speculating on role lists.



Hmm, really?

My first thought when thinking about Power of the Pack was "OH YES TWO TOWN CONTROLLED LYNCHES, PLUS ANALYZING VOTES AND INFORMATION IN EACH ONE"

While shooting (and giving it!) blindly isn't going to do any favors, there's no denying the power of (functionally!) double lynching every other Day.

Thoughts?

Ok well I was reading about it and a 2nd controlled lynch would be nice. On day 1 though it isn't the best since we don't know if there is a possible consort yet or kidnapper. Also town might already have a vigilante.
Also we don't know if there is a witch. I know they wouldn't know who got the gun, but it is best to know before we get the willow tree to hand out a gun. Also with the chance of it ending up in scum hands would be bad since it is only day 1.

If a witch makes the willow tree target itself and gives itself a vest would the vest prevent him from dying if visited by 2 evils?

Slaol
November 13th, 2013, 10:01 PM
Slaol is here.

Eagle is the only viable vote for this power things.
Bear is of minimal value to Town, but of slightly more value to a scum.
Wolf gives DETECTION IMMUNITY if it falls to scum. The less of that, especially if we increase the amount of investigation, the better.
Pack gives a kill. If this goes to any scum it is bad, and even if it goes to Town it can hurt us by mis-shootings. Mis-shootings that will definitely occur if we turn down information.

Anyone that votes otherwise is kind of an idiot or scum.

-Vote Power of the Eagle

Poriomania

The good news is that Bear, being suck a generally worthless ability, likely confirms a Vigilante. A Town role that directly kills, and that scum might need to defend from with invulnerability.
TDL said he thinks we might not have an investigative role. I find this unlikely, but it is likely we have less than in some games. Probably only a single one.
The gun item might signify that there is not a Serial Killer.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:03 PM
Well me here will leave a vanity vote for the Pack while you guys go with the flow.

Kinda was hoping for a non-sheep vote Day 1 so that scum would actually have to *think* about which one they'd be voting for except harmlessly piling onto one.

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 10:07 PM
Slaol is totally scum

Slaol
November 13th, 2013, 10:07 PM
Slaol is totally scum

Totes.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:09 PM
Slaol is totally scum

Damus_Graves

Guess why.

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 10:09 PM
Damus_Graves

Guess why.

Because your fuck?

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:11 PM
Because your fuck?

That was scumvienent.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:11 PM
Because your fuck?

So you're scum in this game?

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 10:13 PM
So you're scum in this game?

Yup. GG everyone Porio MVP.

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 10:13 PM
Hey Host end the game plox. Too Broken

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:16 PM
Welcome to my world.

Mateo
November 13th, 2013, 10:16 PM
Damus_Graves

Guess why.

bcuz hes scum obv

Slaol
November 13th, 2013, 10:18 PM
Hey Host end the game plox. Too Broken

Agreed. 5 scum against 8 Town is ridiculous. I'm trying to run some numbers on this scenario.

Basically, we can not mislynch for the life of us.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:22 PM
bcuz hes scum obv

There's one.

More like, "He calls Slaol scum without voting him".

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:22 PM
Mateo is town.

CarolinaCrown
November 13th, 2013, 10:27 PM
CarolinaCrown 3 votes on him already and you decide to add a 4th. Wasn't 3 votes enough for a little pressure?

Short answer: no. 3 votes is hardly pressure at all. I want rubbish dealt with quickly so we can do more with the time we have. And that's exactly what happened.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:28 PM
Short answer: no. 3 votes is hardly pressure at all. I want rubbish dealt with quickly so we can do more with the time we have. And that's exactly what happened.

What do you think about Damus_Graves?

Mateo?

Banshis?

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 10:30 PM
uh oh. I sense hard focus coming soon. Tunnel vision incoming. Retardation levels rising!

CarolinaCrown
November 13th, 2013, 10:32 PM
What do you think about Damus_Graves?

Mateo?

Banshis?

Neutral. It's too early. Trends don't arise in 4 pages.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:33 PM
uh oh. I sense hard focus coming soon. Tunnel vision incoming. Retardation levels rising!

Nice discredit.

Who is your scumpal? While you're confessing and all...

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:33 PM
Neutral. It's too early. Trends don't arise in 4 pages.

What do you think about me?

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 10:34 PM
Nice discredit.

Who is your scumpal? While you're confessing and all...

Didn't I say it already? Slaol.

Slaol
November 13th, 2013, 10:36 PM
Didn't I say it already? Slaol.

Go on.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:36 PM
Didn't I say it already? Slaol.

Fascinating.

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 10:38 PM
So here is how it is evreyone. I got a message in the mail the other day telling me that I won a great big prize but in return I have to shoot someone every night. I don;t knwo who exactly I have to shoot but Im sure the guy who is giving me the reward shall paint me a road map or something. The text was all red too so I guess it was written in blood.

Jsky

Slaol
November 13th, 2013, 10:41 PM
So here is how it is evreyone. I got a message in the mail the other day telling me that I won a great big prize but in return I have to shoot someone every night. I don;t knwo who exactly I have to shoot but Im sure the guy who is giving me the reward shall paint me a road map or something. The text was all red too so I guess it was written in blood.

Jsky

This is the most interesting claim i've ever seen. I think.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:42 PM
So here is how it is evreyone. I got a message in the mail the other day telling me that I won a great big prize but in return I have to shoot someone every night. I don;t knwo who exactly I have to shoot but Im sure the guy who is giving me the reward shall paint me a road map or something. The text was all red too so I guess it was written in blood.

Jsky

That's all you have to say?

Pretty lukewarm.

Mateo
November 13th, 2013, 10:44 PM
who is the third in ur axis of evil?

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:44 PM
who is the third in ur axis of evil?

Who is this being addressed to?

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 10:47 PM
No Third mate. To OP

CarolinaCrown
November 13th, 2013, 10:48 PM
What do you think about me?

I told you it's too early for trends. I personally notice you're a little bit aggressive, but I'm not sure what that means. Most games I've played with you, you've died too early for me to see any patterns. I know less about you so I need a little more material to take in and think about before I get a solid read.

Damus_Graves
November 13th, 2013, 10:50 PM
Since Ive already been found out by to pro porio I have decidede to just be me and go to bed without informing you guys so that its clearly known that I am scum. After all scum just leave without saying shit so best plan.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:52 PM
I told you it's too early for trends. I personally notice you're a little bit aggressive, but I'm not sure what that means. Most games I've played with you, you've died too early for me to see any patterns. I know less about you so I need a little more material to take in and think about before I get a solid read.

Good, good.

If we're all neutral or null to you, how come you don't try and make an effort to get reads on players?

aka: What I'm doing.

Mateo
November 13th, 2013, 10:55 PM
Who is this being addressed to?

the damus/slaol scum pair. all evil comes in 3s

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:56 PM
Most games I've played with you, you've died too early for me to see any patterns.

I'm a good NK.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:57 PM
the damus/slaol scum pair. all evil comes in 3s

I don't know yet, need everyone to check in.

Mateo
November 13th, 2013, 10:58 PM
I don't know yet, need everyone to check in.

obv they arent actually scum pair, carolina crown is one of the scums

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 10:59 PM
Since Ive already been found out by to pro porio I have decidede to just be me and go to bed without informing you guys so that its clearly known that I am scum. After all scum just leave without saying shit so best plan.

No hammer yet?

*yawn*

Going for a nap now.

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 11:00 PM
obv they arent actually scum pair, carolina crown is one of the scums

Where's your vote on him, then?

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 11:00 PM
I would vote for you but you're town so you're unlynchable, and my vote would be useless.

Going to sleep.

Mateo
November 13th, 2013, 11:01 PM
its on citrus, who is also scum

Orpz
November 13th, 2013, 11:01 PM
the damus/slaol scum pair. all evil comes in 3s

I like literary references :D

Mateo
November 13th, 2013, 11:03 PM
then you'll love me ♥

Orpz
November 13th, 2013, 11:06 PM
more than I already do? ☻♥

Going to sleep now tho.

Orpz
November 13th, 2013, 11:06 PM
CArolinaCrown

Mateo
November 13th, 2013, 11:07 PM
aww gn, i will join in the fun

carolinacrown

a little pressure never hurt anyone

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 11:10 PM
Town are on the Carolina wagon.

Let's see what he has to say and I'll evaluate his responses.

Mateo
November 13th, 2013, 11:14 PM
i will be taking nap, hopefully our yuropeein frineds will be on at that time

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 11:15 PM
For recordkeeping, pt. 2:

Poriomania (4): TheDarkestLight, Orpz, Damus_Graves, CarolinaCrown

CarolinaCrown (3): Orpz, Mateo, Banshis

Poriomania (3): TheDarkestLight, CarolinaCrown, Slaol

Poriomania
November 13th, 2013, 11:15 PM
For recordkeeping, pt. 2:

Poriomania (4): TheDarkestLight, Orpz, Damus_Graves, CarolinaCrown

CarolinaCrown (3): Orpz, Mateo, Banshis

Poriomania (3): TheDarkestLight, CarolinaCrown, Slaol

I fixed it.

Sleep time.

NoctiZ
November 14th, 2013, 01:16 AM
Hey guys, I will try to catch up but I will only be ablento report back in 3-4 hours.

RLVG
November 14th, 2013, 01:54 AM
Sup, I'm currently at work. However, Damus is obvious scum. I mean, he confessed.
Just as much as that, I'm going to confess how town I am :

I'm a Citizen.

This is probably not part of a shitty WIFOM.

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 03:53 AM
citrus

his first post was all filler no killer, a vote, then poof

Damn I see you know how to bust a rhyme. Damn you got me, how you know I never sleep??

-Vote Power of the Eagle duh

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 04:49 AM
-vote power of the eagle

Slaol
November 14th, 2013, 06:14 AM
Pre-work post.

RLVG should be pressured as well.

There is literally 0 reason to claim Citizen if Citizen. RLVG is experienced enough to know this.

NoctiZ
November 14th, 2013, 06:19 AM
-vote Power of the Eagle

Personally, if I had to say, then I'm getting more scum vibes from CC and Citrus than from anyone else atm, but they are rather weak. I'm opting for a no-lynch.

EDIT new post: True about RLVG, though I'm giving him the benefit of doubt.

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 07:18 AM
-vote Power of the Eagle

Personally, if I had to say, then I'm getting more scum vibes from CC and Citrus than from anyone else atm, but they are rather weak. I'm opting for a no-lynch.

EDIT new post: True about RLVG, though I'm giving him the benefit of doubt.

Interesting...

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 07:24 AM
I was thinking it's more likely there's a kidnapper because it prevents Bluecoats from killing the Willow Tree without the Mad King's involvement, but kidnapper means possible 2 deaths n1 with an 8v5 so I'm leaning towards no kidnapper now. I doubt there's a vigilante either (due to pack power).

Can someone receive Willow Tree powers while in jail/kidnapper cell?

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 07:25 AM
24hr day means my vote stays on Bruno for now, because I'd like him to post when he shows up

Azuriae
November 14th, 2013, 07:38 AM
Can someone receive Willow Tree powers while in jail/kidnapper cell?

Yes. Powers are not physical entities.

Bunny
November 14th, 2013, 07:42 AM
-vote power of the eagle
citrus is being so pushy, i find it suspicious.

Orpz
November 14th, 2013, 08:13 AM
I'm willing to pressure CC over Citrus cause of his shitstorm first post. Too much effort was spent preparing that before the thread opened.

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 08:15 AM
I'm willing to pressure CC over Citrus cause of his shitstorm first post. Too much effort was spent preparing that before the thread opened.

I think u got that backward

RLVG
November 14th, 2013, 08:17 AM
Pre-work post.

RLVG should be pressured as well.

There is literally 0 reason to claim Citizen if Citizen. RLVG is experienced enough to know this.

I'm a FoS-Magnet, so it's better to claim early.



-Vote Power of the Wolf

Orpz
November 14th, 2013, 08:23 AM
I think u got that backward

citrus made the first post a few seconds after thread opened

not possible to make a post of that magnitude so fast unless prepped beforehand

Bruno
November 14th, 2013, 08:38 AM
Hey ya'lls.

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 08:39 AM
citrus made the first post a few seconds after thread opened

not possible to make a post of that magnitude so fast unless prepped beforehand

i kno, in previous post you said that cc was the one that made the opening post

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 08:39 AM
Hey ya'lls.

dont talk like texas. u havent earned that right

Bruno
November 14th, 2013, 08:40 AM
dont talk like texas. u havent earned that right

Only steers and queers come from Texas, and I don't see any horns on you.

Orpz
November 14th, 2013, 08:51 AM
Only steers and queers come from Texas, and I don't see any horns on you.

You're so ugly you could be a modern art masterpiece

Bruno
November 14th, 2013, 08:56 AM
-vote Power of the Eagle

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 08:59 AM
citrus made the first post a few seconds after thread opened

not possible to make a post of that magnitude so fast unless prepped beforehand

How'd you know??

I opened the thread an hour early and decided to stay up for daystart, so I posted it then promptly slept. Incredible deduction if I do say so myself, oh "town leader"

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 09:01 AM
How'd you know??

I opened the thread an hour early and decided to stay up for daystart, so I posted it then promptly slept. Incredible deduction if I do say so myself, oh "town leader"

now ur just repeating

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 09:01 AM
Hey ya'lls.

Which is your favorite color? Blue, Green, Mahogany, Red, Yellow?

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 09:02 AM
now ur just repeating

You missed my poor atempt at sarcasm. I see you are alien to the powers of deduction.

Bunny
November 14th, 2013, 09:03 AM
How'd you know??

I opened the thread an hour early and decided to stay up for daystart, so I posted it then promptly slept. Incredible deduction if I do say so myself, oh "town leader"

Why do you have to respond with an attack? its like youre trying to shut down any ideas coming from Orpz by mocking him with the "town leader" part. You seem really fake to me, and trying too hard to seem town

Citrus

Bunny
November 14th, 2013, 09:04 AM
You missed my poor atempt at sarcasm. I see you are alien to the powers of deduction.

another attack on someone who questions you. can't wait for you attack on me for voting you

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 09:05 AM
i understand sarcasm is an attempt to deflect suspicion, and that u r unusually defensive.

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 09:06 AM
Why do you have to respond with an attack? its like youre trying to shut down any ideas coming from Orpz by mocking him with the "town leader" part. You seem really fake to me, and trying too hard to seem town

Citrus

"town leader" because he has stated he shall take that role, but there is no obvious town leading as of yet (too early). There is no official-ness there, as of yet.

Damus_Graves
November 14th, 2013, 09:16 AM
Guise im at spell

Damus_Graves
November 14th, 2013, 09:20 AM
Work•

Calm tits.plwaae

RLVG
November 14th, 2013, 09:20 AM
I'd like to comment that the player list is rather promising. This is going to be an interesting game.
That's all.

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 09:22 AM
I'd like to comment that the player list is rather promising. This is going to be an interesting game.
That's all.

it will b even more interesting if u participate for once :blink1:

Damus_Graves
November 14th, 2013, 09:22 AM
Anyways. Citrus is provs jestwr. Phone dying nye

Bunny
November 14th, 2013, 09:25 AM
Anyways. Citrus is provs jestwr. Phone dying nye

I see this as coming up with early reasons to not vote Citrus. are you two mafia together?!

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 09:27 AM
I see this as coming up with early reasons to not vote Citrus. are you two mafia together?!

i support this line of reasoning

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 09:29 AM
I thank TDL and CarolinaCrown for answering my questions in some capacity



Preliminary questions to contemplate and answer:

1. What do you all think of the Willow Tree?

a) Optimal powers for d1

b) Should we try to organize hidden (PM) power votes? Reveal them that day or reveal the previous day's vote as the game progresses? Keep in mind Willow Tree knows which powers won every night

2. Role list speculation?

a) Guesses as to the roles of the Bluecoats

b) Guesses on the mixture of the two neutrals - killer v evil v benign

c) Guesses on the number of citizens

d) Guesses on Town roles/matchups between town and bluecoat roles

3. Lynch day start

a) Anyone hell-bent on not lynching today or lynching today? Keep in mind possibilities of Jailor/Kidnapper


My answers:
1a) Barring any information, Eagle is probably the best to give out. As game goes on: Depending on deceptive presence, Wolf would be useful for outed Detective/Sheriff/Investigator's. Bear/Pack would be nice for confirmed towns depending on how game is going. But that's all pretty obvious

1b) I'm leaning towards it's better to state out loud what you PM'ed for hidden power, so Willow Tree can see if there's a discrepancy with what powers are received. Not much gained from not stating it and letting Tree see this early in the game.

2a) Leaning towards presence of a kidnapper, 2KPN once is strong though. Bluecoats may send both non-madking to the same target each night to try to kill the Willow Tree barring better targets.

2b) Would be shocked if there was a serial killer. Doubt there's a electro/arson with a witch. Doubt there's a survivor

2c) 7 hidden town roles. 3-4 citizens sounds reasonable. I would not believe 5+ cit claims. I would not believe 5+ TPR claims.

2d) Doubt there's a town killing due to Willow Tree's presence. I'd guess 2 investigatives and a hard-protective (doc/bg), or escort and 1 of each investigative/protective

3a) I'm more favorable to lynching today, because I fear the presence of a kidnapper.

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 09:30 AM
I see this as coming up with early reasons to not vote Citrus. are you two mafia together?!

Funny, your sole contributions to this game have been FoS's on me. Tunnel much? You also yourself up with a "watch and see him attack me" for when I respond.

Hmm...do I smell an Executioner?

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 09:31 AM
Anyways. Citrus is provs jestwr. Phone dying nye

lolwut, I don't see an appearance of jester in my posts but ok. You sir, are wrong

Bunny
November 14th, 2013, 09:35 AM
Funny, your sole contributions to this game have been FoS's on me. Tunnel much? You also yourself up with a "watch and see him attack me" for when I respond.

Hmm...do I smell an Executioner?

I also myself up?
But this is exactly what I'm mentioning. Instead of defending yourself against the arguments people (Orpz, Mateo, Me) are saying, you just shoot them down and call us Town Leader(sarcastically)/Stupid/Executioner. It's like having any FoS on you is not allowed in this game. You just try to invalidate everything that someone says if they say something bad about you.

Bunny
November 14th, 2013, 09:38 AM
making people feel stupid for questioning you is not a defense

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 09:41 AM
I also myself up?
But this is exactly what I'm mentioning. Instead of defending yourself against the arguments people (Orpz, Mateo, Me) are saying, you just shoot them down and call us Town Leader(sarcastically)/Stupid/Executioner. It's like having any FoS on you is not allowed in this game. You just try to invalidate everything that someone says if they say something bad about you.

"Set yourself up" typo, apologies

Defending myself against the arguments?

The only argument I've seen is that I'm overly aggressive or defensive. I'm perfectly fine being FoS'ed, but I would have seen my comments concerning Orpz and Mateo more as jests (no, I am not a jester), rather than as aggressive as you say.

I was legitamately wondering why all your posts only concern me, and one first thought that came to mind was "Executioner," so I voiced it. Is that a fair accusation? Maybe, maybe not. Have you done anything this game not-in-line with being an executioner (checkin post and posts concerning me alone. No role speculation, nothing concerning other players, nothing)? Not yet.

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 09:47 AM
making people feel stupid for questioning you is not a defense

I completely agree. However, my sarcastic post aimed at Mateo was for him saying I was repeating myself.

Would you like to comment about something like the roles/meta/etc. now? I find it useful to get an early guess at role lists from everyone, especially before mafia has had a night chat.

Bunny
November 14th, 2013, 09:53 AM
I've been focused on your because your the only one who stands out!
every post in this topic just seems completely fake and forced. I pointed that out earlier. wehn you started invalidating things players said about you, it made me place me vote to try to get others to put pressure on you. i was hoping you'd start showing your true self (not the fake town show you've been giving) and you have, by attacking me and calling me executioner. did I ever say i want you lynched? do you really think that an executioner would be pushing their target day one? really?

Also, what good is role speculation day one..... please explain the benefit of everyone saying what roles they think are in the game.. if you have legitimate reasoning, then I will provide a list. but i'm not going to go out of my way to make up my own setup just because you think that you listing off a few random roles seems pro-town.

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 09:53 AM
I completely agree. However, my sarcastic post aimed at Mateo was for him saying I was repeating myself.

Would you like to comment about something like the roles/meta/etc. now? I find it useful to get an early guess at role lists from everyone, especially before mafia has had a night chat.

actually i meant u were repeating orpz. y did u vote bruno right out the gate? y r u being more aggressive than other games? u r acting like kusco.

Bunny
November 14th, 2013, 09:55 AM
I find it beneficial for the scum when town makes roles lists, because they can assume that the player will put their own role on the roles list, helping with with who their night target should be.

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 09:56 AM
it also tells scum what role someone will believe in the event of role call

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 10:02 AM
I've been focused on your because your the only one who stands out!
every post in this topic just seems completely fake and forced. I pointed that out earlier. wehn you started invalidating things players said about you, it made me place me vote to try to get others to put pressure on you. i was hoping you'd start showing your true self (not the fake town show you've been giving) and you have, by attacking me and calling me executioner. did I ever say i want you lynched? do you really think that an executioner would be pushing their target day one? really?

Also, what good is role speculation day one..... please explain the benefit of everyone saying what roles they think are in the game.. if you have legitimate reasoning, then I will provide a list. but i'm not going to go out of my way to make up my own setup just because you think that you listing off a few random roles seems pro-town.

I would think it's useful because it forces scum into a position where it may be harder to false-claim a role later. There's also the fact that doing it before mafia chat opens makes it more difficult for them to pool their thoughts, which may be seen through a shift from d1 onwards on what roles they "expect." At least that's why I thought people do it in previous games where it occurred.

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 10:04 AM
actually i meant u were repeating orpz. y did u vote bruno right out the gate? y r u being more aggressive than other games? u r acting like kusco.

Ah, well I thought you were referring to me repeating myself.

As I said, in recent memory I haven't played with Bruno before and wanted to place a random vote with my first post, so I figured why not on him.

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 10:08 AM
I find it beneficial for the scum when town makes roles lists, because they can assume that the player will put their own role on the roles list, helping with with who their night target should be.

That is true. Wouldn't it be more harmful to scum as it pidgeon-holes their ability to false-claim? Or would it not be true in games like this since there's so much room for citizens, in your opinion?


it also tells scum what role someone will believe in the event of role call

I disagree. You're saying it helps scum with setting up a false-claim (most likely of TPR). Any town that proposes a guesstimated list has only the knowledge of their own role, and I'm not sure why they'd be more likely to believe a claim that happened to be on that d1 list.

If everyone posted a guess at a role list, it may also show connections between mafia later, no? Considering they haven't had the ability to consolidate what they may false-claim etc. So when mafia start flipping, it may be possible to use those lists to add another factor of connection/coverup/suspicion.

NoctiZ
November 14th, 2013, 10:27 AM
Just because Mafia create a role list doesn't mean they have to claim from that. Besides, including common roles is just common sense when you want to post a knowingly fake rolelist.

I have never seen a big point in creating a role list, but like Bunny I will do it when it is insisted upon and there is a clear advantage to draw from. Other than that I think speculating is bull.

RLVG
November 14th, 2013, 11:06 AM
Since everyone is going to get a random thing, why don't we add meta into play?
Example : If I had a gun, I'm going to kill Santa.

I also bet everyone is voting to use a Gun as the hidden option.

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 01:06 PM
i think cc is ok for now, and believe we should focus on someone else on the porio lynch train

damus_graves

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 01:13 PM
nvm got citrus and cc confused >.<

carolinacrown

CarolinaCrown
November 14th, 2013, 04:01 PM
Finally back but I'm somewhat busy and will be doing most things through my phone. More momentarily.

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 04:15 PM
so in other words

u r busy irl and we should just lynch u. got it

Banshis
November 14th, 2013, 04:21 PM
Short answer: no. 3 votes is hardly pressure at all. I want rubbish dealt with quickly so we can do more with the time we have. And that's exactly what happened.

CarolinaCrown- I would like to know why you answered my question like this. It was still the beginning of the game and 3 votes is enough for some pressure. You said it like you were irritated that I called you out on trying to push the train forward. I don't like your response at all. Also by rubbish dealt with quickly do you mean the post style or Porio? I am assuming post style.

Banshis
November 14th, 2013, 04:22 PM
CarolinaCrown- I would like to know why you answered my question like this. It was still the beginning of the game and 3 votes is enough for some pressure. You said it like you were irritated that I called you out on trying to push the train forward. I don't like your response at all. Also by rubbish dealt with quickly do you mean the post style or Porio? I am assuming post style.

Also to go with this CarolinaCrown do you think Porio is scum? You still have your vote on him and he stopped posting pictures.

Banshis
November 14th, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jester was my first thought, not because of the pictures but because of the power vote. Then there was WIFOM. Now I kind of think he's a Jester again.

Then again, the pictures are pissing me off. Nothing wrong with a little pressure eh?

Poriomania

-Vote Power of the Eagle

Yeah a pretty obvious choice. And pack is a pretty obvious non-choice.

And do you still think Porio is a jester? If so why would you voting him benefit town if he ends up being lynched and killing someone.

TheDarkestLight
November 14th, 2013, 04:32 PM
Oh, Porio is back to text. Good, back to my original FOS.

Orpz

See the post I voted him originally for.

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 04:37 PM
And do you still think Porio is a jester? If so why would you voting him benefit town if he ends up being lynched and killing someone.

Killing two people, random guilty + hammer dies to jester if I recall correctly

Banshis
November 14th, 2013, 04:45 PM
Killing two people, random guilty + hammer dies to jester if I recall correctly

Your right so it is worse and if CC thinks he is a jester there wasn't a reason for him to vote Porio since it wouldn't benefit town.

TheDarkestLight
November 14th, 2013, 04:51 PM
Since everyone is going to get a random thing, why don't we add meta into play?
Example : If I had a gun, I'm going to kill Santa.

I also bet everyone is voting to use a Gun as the hidden option.

1: No

2: Only people who want guns A: Stupid people B: Scum. The Town/Scum ratio is too low for us to want guns at like, any point...

Banshis
November 14th, 2013, 05:00 PM
Finally back but I'm somewhat busy and will be doing most things through my phone. More momentarily.

Been an hour since you said you would post more momentarily. I'd love to have my questions answered.

Poriomania
November 14th, 2013, 05:08 PM
Bunny is town.

CarolinaCrown
November 14th, 2013, 05:53 PM
Ah real sorry guys.

@Banshis: 1) I responded like that because I didn't think 3 votes was enough pressure. When I say rubbish, I mean that style, which may have some purpose but not enough to waste too much time on it.


2) I was going to say that I didn't think Porio was jester, but I thought about it more and I think he is again.


Also I had no idea about the double jester kill, that's just malicious

I am voting for the bear power in my pm.

CarolinaCrown
November 14th, 2013, 05:55 PM
Reads when I make it back to my computer in an hour or so. Sorry again for delays.

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 06:08 PM
< 2 hours left in the day alert.


@Everyone: Does Bruno normally not post much during the first day? While I kinda just threw my first vote on him with little reason, I'm starting to feel more comfortable with it left there, considering all he's posted is "hello"

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 06:11 PM
Only steers and queers come from Texas, and I don't see any horns on you.

Also this (troll) post and a power vote, but I would call the power vote bare minimum. That's 3 posts, which is typically the minimum allowable activity per day in most S-FMs.

Is there a minimum posting requirement for not getting replaced/modkilled?

Orpz
November 14th, 2013, 06:19 PM
Wait our lovely Willow Tree only hands out 1 power.
And it's Town aligned so unless superbad, I'm pretty sure it'd hand out the Eagle.
We should vote the Eagle in day chat every day.

Cheers mates, I'm officially going to stop using PM votes the rest of the game

Orpz
November 14th, 2013, 06:48 PM
Oh, Porio is back to text. Good, back to my original FOS.

Orpz

See the post I voted him originally for.

You'll be put to death first once I take over

TheDarkestLight
November 14th, 2013, 06:51 PM
You'll be put to death first once I take over

Please keep it serious. :)

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 06:56 PM
wat a total clusterfuk of votes

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 06:59 PM
rlvg would u like to comment? i see you lurking

Bruno
November 14th, 2013, 07:06 PM
< 2 hours left in the day alert.


@Everyone: Does Bruno normally not post much during the first day? While I kinda just threw my first vote on him with little reason, I'm starting to feel more comfortable with it left there, considering all he's posted is "hello"

please **** ********

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 07:08 PM
please **** ********

I can guess the first series of astericks, but not the second. Care to contribute something else?

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 07:08 PM
wat a total clusterfuk of votes

this + < 1 hour in the day = pretty much no lynch day

Bruno
November 14th, 2013, 07:09 PM
I can guess the first series of astericks, but not the second. Care to contribute something else?

Only God can judge me.

CarolinaCrown
November 14th, 2013, 07:22 PM
Oh crap day ends in 1 hour not 3. I'm still not home but vague reads:

Porio seems a jester, I just think the short, aggressive posts of his remind me of someone trying to have his energy noticed.

Mateo is townish. Gut feeling.

Banshis is townish. Only one who asked me any meaningful questions after voting me.

A few more minor reads that are too unfounded to talk about seriously.

Poriomania
November 14th, 2013, 07:28 PM
Sup, I'm currently at work. However, Damus is obvious scum. I mean, he confessed.
Just as much as that, I'm going to confess how town I am :

I'm a Citizen.

This is probably not part of a shitty WIFOM.

Why is this player slot still alive?



RLVG should be pressured as well.


You claim to want to pressure RLVG and encourage other players to pressure him, but you leave your vote firmly placed on me while doing so.

Always lynch that. Never not lynch that.

Slaol


I'm opting for a no-lynch.



Why? No lynching is dumb.


Interesting...

What's interesting about NoctiZ's post?


Which is your favorite color? Blue, Green, Mahogany, Red, Yellow?

Why are you asking this?


I'd like to comment that the player list is rather promising. This is going to be an interesting game.
That's all.

Why is this player slot still alive?


Anyways. Citrus is provs jestwr. Phone dying nye

Why are you trying to discredit people by stating they're a role and not giving anything to back that up?


i support this line of reasoning

Me too.



Hmm...do I smell an Executioner?

Excellent discredit.


Since everyone is going to get a random thing, why don't we add meta into play?
Example : If I had a gun, I'm going to kill Santa.

I also bet everyone is voting to use a Gun as the hidden option.

Why is this player slot still alive?


Oh, Porio is back to text. Good, back to my original FOS.

Orpz

See the post I voted him originally for.

Orpz is obvTown. Move your vote to

-Slaol
-Damus_Graves
-RLVG



2: Only people who want guns A: Stupid people B: Scum. The Town/Scum ratio is too low for us to want guns at like, any point...

Am I stupid or scum?

(Hint: Guns will be good when we have such a low margin of error for scum lynches.)



Porio seems a jester, I just think the short, aggressive posts of his remind me of someone trying to have his energy noticed.


What do you mean by this?

Poriomania
November 14th, 2013, 07:28 PM
Bruno is town.

Poriomania
November 14th, 2013, 07:34 PM
So we're not going to lynch anyone?

That is disappointing. I need things to put in my scumputer!

Banshis
November 14th, 2013, 07:36 PM
Slaol is here.

Eagle is the only viable vote for this power things.
Bear is of minimal value to Town, but of slightly more value to a scum.
Wolf gives DETECTION IMMUNITY if it falls to scum. The less of that, especially if we increase the amount of investigation, the better.
Pack gives a kill. If this goes to any scum it is bad, and even if it goes to Town it can hurt us by mis-shootings. Mis-shootings that will definitely occur if we turn down information.

Anyone that votes otherwise is kind of an idiot or scum.

-Vote Power of the Eagle

Poriomania

The good news is that Bear, being suck a generally worthless ability, likely confirms a Vigilante. A Town role that directly kills, and that scum might need to defend from with invulnerability.
TDL said he thinks we might not have an investigative role. I find this unlikely, but it is likely we have less than in some games. Probably only a single one.
The gun item might signify that there is not a Serial Killer.


1: No

2: Only people who want guns A: Stupid people B: Scum. The Town/Scum ratio is too low for us to want guns at like, any point...




Am I stupid or scum?


Slaol also said it. The resemblance in their thoughts hmm...

Slaol why are you voting Porio besides him just trying to get power of the pack?

Poriomania
November 14th, 2013, 07:38 PM
CarolinaCrown (3): Orpz, Mateo, Banshis
Bruno (1): Citrus
Orpz (1): TheDarkestLight
Poriomania (1): Slaol
Slaol (1): Poriomania
Citrus (1): Bunny

Not Voting: Bruno, RLVG, CarolinaCrown, NoctiZ, Damus_Graves

I need a bigger wagon on Carolina. It's so sad that we won't be getting one today.

Scumputer = broken for Day 1

Poriomania
November 14th, 2013, 07:40 PM
It's OK Bruno I got your breadcrumb.

TheDarkestLight
November 14th, 2013, 07:44 PM
@Poriomania

Is Orpz obv town because he is your scum partner?

He is not obv town at all. I look down on you for thinking so.

Mateo
November 14th, 2013, 07:48 PM
im really surprised, for a game with so many compotent players, nothing is getting done.

noted.

Poriomania
November 14th, 2013, 07:49 PM
He is not obv town at all. I look down on you for thinking so.

He sounds town and he sounds like he's paid attention.

Orpz
November 14th, 2013, 07:49 PM
@Poriomania

Is Orpz obv town because he is your scum partner?

He is not obv town at all. I look down on you for thinking so.

Yes I am. Also, CC bailed out on his promise of making reads.

Was waiting on dat shit to use as a convo point

TheDarkestLight
November 14th, 2013, 07:50 PM
Slaol also said it. The resemblance in their thoughts hmm...

Because he is actually right...

Poriomania
November 14th, 2013, 07:50 PM
im really surprised, for a game with so many compotent players, nothing is getting done.

noted.

That's what we're discussing in our mason chat.

Poriomania
November 14th, 2013, 07:51 PM
Because he is actually right...

Am I stupid or scum?

TheDarkestLight
November 14th, 2013, 07:51 PM
He sounds town and he sounds like he's paid attention.

And this reminds me of SOOOOO many scums from previous FMs...

TheDarkestLight
November 14th, 2013, 07:52 PM
Am I stupid or scum?

Possibly both.

Poriomania
November 14th, 2013, 07:55 PM
Possibly both.

You can't lynch the Innocent Child. You'll have to NK me.

Bruno
November 14th, 2013, 07:55 PM
Citrus

Poriomania
November 14th, 2013, 07:56 PM
Maybe I should sheep Bruno.

TheDarkestLight
November 14th, 2013, 07:57 PM
You can't lynch the Innocent Child. You'll have to NK me.

Trolling only makes you scummier.

Damus_Graves
November 14th, 2013, 07:57 PM
Back from work n stuff. Wat do

Citrus
November 14th, 2013, 07:58 PM
Citrus

Dat reasoning. Dat OMGUS.

Orpz
November 14th, 2013, 07:58 PM
Banshis
Bruno
Bunny
CarolinaCrown
Citrus
Damus_Graves
Mateo
Noctiz
Orpz
Poriomania
RLVG
Slaol
TheDarkestLight

lolcolorcode list
Too last minute to elaborate...jk lets be real I don't ever elaborate. Maybe in my LW tonight

Poriomania
November 14th, 2013, 07:59 PM
Back from work n stuff. Wat do

Bus Slaol.

Poriomania
November 14th, 2013, 07:59 PM
Dat reasoning. Dat OMGUS.

That discredit.

Bruno
November 14th, 2013, 08:00 PM
Dat reasoning. Dat OMGUS.

Remind me to give a FUK about what you say.

Azuriae
November 14th, 2013, 08:00 PM
The day has ended.
Nobody was lynched.

The majority has decided to give the Willow Tree the Power of the Eagle.

Day 2 will begin at this time (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=november+15+2013+10%3A00+PM+EST&x=-1244&y=-71)

The deadline for night actions is one hour before the end of the night

Final Vote Tally:

Bruno (1 [L-6]):
Citrus
CarolinaCrown (3 [L-4]):
Orpz, Mateo, Banshis
Orpz (1 [L-6]):
TheDarkestLight
Poriomania (1 [L-6]):
Slaol
Slaol (1 [L-6]):
Poriomania
Citrus (2 L-5]):
Bunny, Bruno

Azuriae
November 15th, 2013, 06:58 AM
Sorry I have to do this, but due to unforeseen events, I will have to extend the night by ~2 to 3 hours.

Azuriae
November 15th, 2013, 10:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bs2epxOgY8

Day 2: Despair

A gruesome view greeted the habitants of New York as the sun rose.
In the middle of the market, a decapitated head on a pike could be seen, blood still dripping from the limb.
It was Mateo. He had suffered a terrible, terrible death at the hands of the Bluecoats.
The rest of his body was found in a ditch not too far from the market; judging by the multiple vials and drugs he was carrying,
it was clear that Mateo was a Doctor, secretly helping the Resistance...


Rolelist:

The Mad Bluecoats
[The Mad King]
[Hidden Bluecoat]
[Hidden Bluecoat]

The Resistance
[Hidden Villager]
[Hidden Villager]
[Hidden Villager]
[Hidden Villager]
[Hidden Villager]
[Hidden Villager]
[Hidden Villager]
[The Willow Tree]

[Hidden Neutral]

[Hidden Neutral]


Alive Players: 12

Banshis
Bruno
Bunny
CarolinaCrown
Citrus
Damus_Graves
Mateo
Noctiz
Orpz
Poriomania
RLVG
Slaol
TheDarkestLight


Graveyard:
Mateo, Doctor, brutally murdered by an unknown Bluecoat. (Night 1)

7

Setup (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21890-S-FM-The-Tyranny-of-Mad-King-George)
The day will end at this time (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=november+17+2013+1%3A30+AM+EST&x=-1244&y=-71)

Poriomania
November 15th, 2013, 11:31 PM
I was attacked last night.

I do not trust [redacted] because [redacted].

Azuriae
November 15th, 2013, 11:32 PM
This day will be 24 hours long starting now. Night 2 will be slightly shorter so that the schedule goes back to 10 EST day start/ends.

Poriomania
November 15th, 2013, 11:41 PM
F57A3A88292125CDD1A4C4BE465CA77348AC3618CB413676

Because cryptoclaiming is awesome.

Orpz
November 15th, 2013, 11:53 PM
ty willow tree

Orpz
November 15th, 2013, 11:54 PM
Eagle was passed out to me last night.

-vote power of the eagle

Please turn off autoplay.

Damus_Graves
November 16th, 2013, 12:32 AM
Hi.

Damus_Graves
November 16th, 2013, 01:49 AM
I had a pleasing little chat with a jailor last night. Im very happy he changed his mind at the last moment and didn't kill me.

CarolinaCrown
November 16th, 2013, 02:09 AM
Eagle was passed out to me last night.

-vote power of the eagle

Please turn off autoplay.

What's the reasoning behind claiming this publicly? It seems to me that any sort of power claims are dangerous, especially with a doctor already dead.

CarolinaCrown
November 16th, 2013, 02:10 AM
-vote power of the eagle

Nothing happened to me last night.

Citrus
November 16th, 2013, 02:56 AM
Hello all. Twas role blocked.

And I'll vote eagle later, difficult to do so on my phone.

NoctiZ
November 16th, 2013, 04:08 AM
Hello everyone.

I'm sorry but I asked Azuriae to replace me because I won't be able to follow this game anymore due to something that came up in my family. It's nothing too serious so please don't worry about it.

PS: No feedback from me.

RLVG
November 16th, 2013, 07:43 AM
Nothing happened to me.

Bunny
November 16th, 2013, 08:13 AM
good morning, nothing happened to me last night. Vote Power of the Eagle At this stage of the game I feel this is what we should still be voting for. What do you guys think?

TheDarkestLight
November 16th, 2013, 08:44 AM
-Vote Power of The Eagle

Hello. Nothing happened to me last night.

NoctiZ
November 16th, 2013, 09:47 AM
Since I'm still technically in the game I'm gonna do something useful.

-Vote Power of the Eagle

Bruno
November 16th, 2013, 10:05 AM
Nothing happened to me, either.

Damus, what can you tell us about this jailor?

Banshis
November 16th, 2013, 10:43 AM
Nothing happened to me last night.

Damus_Graves
November 16th, 2013, 11:27 AM
The jailor was rude. Thats really it.

Damus_Graves
November 16th, 2013, 11:32 AM
Coincidentally enough. Someone also tried to kill me while I was jailed.

Bruno
November 16th, 2013, 11:37 AM
Can you post us some jail chat pls

Banshis
November 16th, 2013, 11:46 AM
Coincidentally enough. Someone also tried to kill me while I was jailed.

If this is true then I am guessing

Bluecoats- Mateo
Serial Killer- Poriomania
Vigilante- Damus_Graves

Although I doubt there would be a jailer and vigilante in the town.

Damus_Graves
November 16th, 2013, 12:07 PM
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Re: Night 1: You've been jailed!
Postby Restricted User » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:09 pm

So I don't know if you are kidnapper or jailor really. Im thinking jailor because I was a scummy target in the day chat. Unfortunately I cannot trust your words at the current moment.
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Re: Night 1: You've been jailed!
Postby Restricted User » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:08 am

Well in any case. I don't expect much conversation tonight.
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Re: Night 1: You've been jailed!
Postby Administrator » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:14 am

*pow pow pow pow*

If you must know

RLVG
November 16th, 2013, 12:11 PM
What a genius jailor.

Banshis
November 16th, 2013, 12:23 PM
If you must know

How do you have 0 posts?

Citrus
November 16th, 2013, 12:26 PM
If this is true then I am guessing

Bluecoats- Mateo
Serial Killer- Poriomania
Vigilante- Damus_Graves

Although I doubt there would be a jailer and vigilante in the town.

Potential for a quite high KPN here if this is all true even if some are charge-restricted, plus the Willow Tree...

Banshis
November 16th, 2013, 12:28 PM
Right now I am wondering. Damus are those all your posts in there or is the pow pow pow one the jailers?

Damus_Graves
November 16th, 2013, 12:30 PM
pow is jailor. obvs
Right now I am wondering. Damus are those all your posts in there or is the pow pow pow one the jailers?

Banshis
November 16th, 2013, 12:31 PM
pow is jailor. obvs

and then the 2nd about not having much conversation?

Citrus
November 16th, 2013, 12:32 PM
-vote Power of the Eagle

Wanted to point out Vigilante and Jailor are in the same investigative pairing. I would suspect a Kidnapper would be more likely to execute n1 but I am not entirely sure

Damus_Graves
November 16th, 2013, 12:33 PM
the normal speech is myself, restricted user, and the jailor was saying pow, admin.

Banshis
November 16th, 2013, 12:40 PM
I'd like to know why it says there are 0 posts and you and the jailer's accounts are made at the exact same time.

Damus_Graves
November 16th, 2013, 12:43 PM
ask the host.

Bruno
November 16th, 2013, 12:49 PM
If this is true then I am guessing

Bluecoats- Mateo
Serial Killer- Poriomania
Vigilante- Damus_Graves

Although I doubt there would be a jailer and vigilante in the town.

Are you a Republican? You ignored the FACT Mateo was a doctor. Why are you deliberately spreading false info?

Banshis

Banshis
November 16th, 2013, 12:59 PM
Are you a Republican? You ignored the FACT Mateo was a doctor. Why are you deliberately spreading false info?

Banshis

I am saying who I think attacked who.

Porio claimed attacked. Damus claimed attack. Mateo most likely healed Porio and Damus said he was jailed which is why he survived.

Azuriae
November 16th, 2013, 01:15 PM
Ika has replaced NoctiZ.

He should be joining us later.

Citrus
November 16th, 2013, 01:24 PM
If this is true then I am guessing

Bluecoats- Mateo
Serial Killer- Poriomania
Vigilante- Damus_Graves

Although I doubt there would be a jailer and vigilante in the town.

Actually, thinking a bit more about this, I would buy Serial Killer attacking Mateo and Blues attacking Porio. Why did you place them that way? I can see the Vig -> Damus pretty easily