M-FM XX Voodoo Gamethread

[Alexandre Petion]

Side note: If you think the mason is doing the RBing, then you must also think I'm not cult.
I would've died last night if I was cult OR culted last night.

[Catherine Flon]

Side note: If you think the mason is doing the RBing, then you must also think I'm not cult.
I would've died last night if I was cult OR culted last night.

Bingo. I agree.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

Jean my "lighter attitude" isn't changed from the possibility of Vince being lynched. It's from the possibility of day ending before the halfway mark. Why do you want the day to end so quickly?

Because Hedo has spoken already and any feedback has been dispensed between the mind melded or public knowledge via toussant and others. I was a bit frustrated yesterday to not see much feedback revealed, yet plenty of feedback claims. I am very insistent now on this lynch, as it will also prove Toussant and in many ways prove the Hedo/Mind Meld excersises are being productive. Collaboration and trustworthy information is all I wanted, and this lynch proves beyond just suspicions as yesterday. IF this mind meld project is working, I am not going to stand in the way.

So, what other information do you expect to find before end of day?

[Catherine Flon]

I am very insistent now on this lynch, as it will also prove Toussant and in many ways prove the Hedo/Mind Meld excersises are being productive. Collaboration and trustworthy information is all I wanted, and this lynch proves beyond just suspicions as yesterday.

I hold same opinion. I think Mind Melder should meld the same group of people rather than swap people out at the moment.

Alex and jean can be the backup in case of accident.

[Catherine Flon]

I am very insistent now on this lynch, as it will also prove Toussant and in many ways prove the Hedo/Mind Meld excersises are being productive. Collaboration and trustworthy information is all I wanted, and this lynch proves beyond just suspicions as yesterday.


Sorry I forgot the quote.

[Alexandre Petion]

Because Hedo has spoken already and any feedback has been dispensed between the mind melded or public knowledge via toussant and others. I was a bit frustrated yesterday to not see much feedback revealed, yet plenty of feedback claims. I am very insistent now on this lynch, as it will also prove Toussant and in many ways prove the Hedo/Mind Meld excersises are being productive. Collaboration and trustworthy information is all I wanted, and this lynch proves beyond just suspicions as yesterday. IF this mind meld project is working, I am not going to stand in the way.

So, what other information do you expect to find before end of day?

Hedo isn't the almighty god or anything dude.
We still have some claims yet to be made and there's always time for more discussion and expressing thoughts.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

I am very insistent now on this lynch, as it will also prove Toussant and in many ways prove the Hedo/Mind Meld excersises are being productive. Collaboration and trustworthy information is all I wanted, and this lynch proves beyond just suspicions as yesterday.

I hold same opinion. I think Mind Melder should meld the same group of people rather than swap people out at the moment.

Alex and jean can be the backup in case of accident.

I should not be mind melded. I have nothing to offer in the discussions.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

I never said do not lynch oge, nor criticize on the risk, but not now, not an early hammer.

I voted Boukman yesterday, early today, and switch to Mak and then switch back to Boukman.

I am not following anyone but rather solve things case by case and rally voters.

Currently Oge is at L2 I can not switch Oge in order to avoid some scum hammer.

I want to hear oge's defense and that we can dig.

Also I am aim to watch out the vote from Anacona, Galbaud, Mackandal and Boukman.

Discussion is also the key of my role, thus I prefer a longer day than a quick hammer.

So once again, why are you jumping around between the Citizen claimers if you're so certain we have a Missionary? It's almost like you're trying to misdirect.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

I am very insistent now on this lynch, as it will also prove Toussant and in many ways prove the Hedo/Mind Meld excersises are being productive. Collaboration and trustworthy information is all I wanted, and this lynch proves beyond just suspicions as yesterday.

I hold same opinion. I think Mind Melder should meld the same group of people rather than swap people out at the moment.

Alex and jean can be the backup in case of accident.

with 2 cults, it proves nothing but what his night action is.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Side note: If you think the mason is doing the RBing, then you must also think I'm not cult.
I would've died last night if I was cult OR culted last night.

No, that's not true.

Roleblocking happens right before night action. Witch Hunter's roleblock would affect your right before Investigative roles, which is BEFORE cultist conversion.
Therefore, you would be targeted by Witch Hunter, seen as not being cult and roleblocked, then you would be Culted. Please read the OoO and not to mislead.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

You can be targeted by the Witch Hunter and converted in the same night...

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

All i see you doing, Catherine, is misleading and contradicting yourself.

[Vincent Oge]

Fuck you T-ant, you investigate me N1 but don't say shit until the day I'm busy. I am citizen, I didn't reveal earlier because the plan was not to reveal all at once and I actually follow plans unlike some people. Any other questions will have to wait until tonight.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

Fuck you T-ant, you investigate me N1 but don't say shit until the day I'm busy. I am citizen, I didn't reveal earlier because the plan was not to reveal all at once and I actually follow plans unlike some people. Any other questions will have to wait until tonight.

On second thought, this could be confirmed by a Witch Hunter tonight. If Vincent Oge is alive tomorrow, I would assume he was checked and is confirmed a citizen.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

Although, he could also be culted tomorrow as Catherine said, bypassing the Witch Hunter. So I don't know if it would be viable now... I think I am now stuck in WIFOM hell.

[Sanite Belaire]

On second thought, this could be confirmed by a Witch Hunter tonight. If Vincent Oge is alive tomorrow, I would assume he was checked and is confirmed a citizen.



I doubt that there's a witch hunter. That's one reason I want Hedo to confirm his feedback on night 1.

[Hedouville]

Fuck you T-ant, you investigate me N1 but don't say shit until the day I'm busy. I am citizen, I didn't reveal earlier because the plan was not to reveal all at once and I actually follow plans unlike some people. Any other questions will have to wait until tonight.

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[Hedouville]

I doubt that there's a witch hunter. That's one reason I want Hedo to confirm his feedback on night 1.

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[Napoleon Bonaparte]

On second thought, this could be confirmed by a Witch Hunter tonight. If Vincent Oge is alive tomorrow, I would assume he was checked and is confirmed a citizen.



Wouldn't work.

Witch Hunter visits Oge.
Oge gets attack & autovests.
Oge claims roleblocked.
We are right back where we started.

or

Witch HUnter visits Oge.
Oge gets roleblocked.
Oge claims roleblocked.
We are right back where we started.

Unless you're recommending the Hunter Hunter use up TWO nights of night actions to clear/kill someone we can get rid of today? If that's what you're suggestion, I suggest you stop. I'd rather have the Witch Hunter find 2 Cultists and us lynch Citizen/Cult Leader rather than us lynch no one and have Witch Hunter waste 2 nights of actions to kill a Cult Leader / block a Citizen.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

I doubt that there's a witch hunter. That's one reason I want Hedo to confirm his feedback on night 1.

Are you Escort?

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

Sorry Vincent, but Occam's Razor calls. There is more potential to see if your a Cult leader or not outweighing your Citizen claim. If there is a Mason recruit, please speak for the masons now so we can decide the importance of Citizen claims. The OoO allows a loophole for recruits and misdirect the Witch Hunter with false information. If there is no Mason Leader I would suspect it more beneficial to push this lynch, especially since tonight would be another convert night, or possibility of 3 kills.

Vincent Oge

[Sanite Belaire]

Are you Escort?

I will give neither a confirmation nor a denial.

[Port-au-Prince]

inb4 toussant is really executioner

no i was not mindmelded but i think the mind melder should vary his targets a bit

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

I will give neither a confirmation nor a denial.

Well, that's the only reason why you'd refuse to believe there is a Witch Hunter.

[Charles Leclerc]

My vote will stay where it is, because there is a good chance that Vincent could be one of the cult leaders.

I'm going away for now, but I still expect the day to end earlier because there is nothing else to exchange. Any other Town PRs should stay hidden, least they get converted by the cult.

[Sanite Belaire]

Well, that's the only reason why you'd refuse to believe there is a Witch Hunter.

It's not the only possible reason.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

It's not the only possible reason.

Ah, I guess you're right.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

Ah, I guess you're right.

Speculating whether someone is a Escort or not (meaning potential Witch Hunter) isn't a good idea. Some roles are best left never revealed.

[Vincent Oge]

Wow this is awesome, gonna get lynched for sticking to the plan and not being a dumbass like the other citizen claimers. Speaking of which, where is Galbaud and Pernier? Be sure to take note of who lynches me, throw a lynch target in the mix and see how fast scum swarms around.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

And actually, I was wrong. I missed that Witch Hunter would receive feedback if they attacked their target.

@ Sanite, in your opinion, what would you say are the 2 Hidden Mason roles?

[Sanite Belaire]

And actually, I was wrong. I missed that Witch Hunter would receive feedback if they attacked their target.

@ Sanite, in your opinion, what would you say are the 2 Hidden Mason roles?

All I will say is that I doubt there's a missionary or witch hunter.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

And actually, I was wrong. I missed that Witch Hunter would receive feedback if they attacked their target.

@ Sanite, in your opinion, what would you say are the 2 Hidden Mason roles?

I wouldn't agree with answering this either. Speculation of some roles is best left alone until they choose to reveal. With 2 cult factions, it would be best if they were left to do their thing until the need to reveal arises, such as confirming the Mason numbers can grow via spokesperson of a convert.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

All I will say is that I doubt there's a missionary or witch hunter.

What would you think of a Hidden Mason being a Diciple?
Or Hidden Any being a Diciple? Think a host would do something like that?

[Hedouville]

Wow this is awesome, gonna get lynched for sticking to the plan and not being a dumbass like the other citizen claimers. Speaking of which, where is Galbaud and Pernier? Be sure to take note of who lynches me, throw a lynch target in the mix and see how fast scum swarms around.

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[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

Vincent, I would like to hear reads from you, I see that as the best contribution you can offer right now.

[Alexandre Petion]

No, that's not true.

Roleblocking happens right before night action. Witch Hunter's roleblock would affect your right before Investigative roles, which is BEFORE cultist conversion.
Therefore, you would be targeted by Witch Hunter, seen as not being cult and roleblocked, then you would be Culted. Please read the OoO and not to mislead.

I just re-read it. Witch Hunter would fit into investigative I suppose. That means all that could have happened to make me cult, was that I was converted last night. Which has a low probability since the odds are that both cults got a successful conversion off. Still a chance I'm cult though.

Calm down bro.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

I wouldn't agree with answering this either. Speculation of some roles is best left alone until they choose to reveal. With 2 cult factions, it would be best if they were left to do their thing until the need to reveal arises, such as confirming the Mason numbers can grow via spokesperson of a convert.

omg i'm not talking to you.
I'm asking a simple question to a single player for their opinion on what roles are in a game. It is not requesting any role reveal or any confirmation of roles. I was simply asking his opinion.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

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He was referring to the posts of no more citizen claimers, after we had multiple claims.

[Vincent Oge]

The plan d1 was for 1 or 2 citizens to reveal at a time so the masons would be able to verify. Napoleon was the first to volunteer I believe.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

I just re-read it. Witch Hunter would fit into investigative I suppose. That means all that could have happened to make me cult, was that I was converted last night. Which has a low probability since the odds are that both cults got a successful conversion off. Still a chance I'm cult though.

Calm down bro.

I... am calm? If you think that me correcting false information being said in the game should be ceased, i don't know what to say to you.

[Sanite Belaire]

What would you think of a Hidden Mason being a Diciple?
Or Hidden Any being a Diciple? Think a host would do something like that?

It would be dick move on host's part. No comment past that.

[Hedouville]

What would you think of a Hidden Mason being a Diciple?
Or Hidden Any being a Diciple? Think a host would do something like that?

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[Napoleon Bonaparte]

It would be dick move on host's part. No comment past that.

That's all I was wondering, spanks!

[Alexandre Petion]

I... am calm? If you think that me correcting false information being said in the game should be ceased, i don't know what to say to you.

No I'm not saying that. Correct me if I'm wrong. Correct anyone if they are wrong.
I'm just saying, keep it cool bro.

[Hedouville]

The plan d1 was for 1 or 2 citizens to reveal at a time so the masons would be able to verify. Napoleon was the first to volunteer I believe.

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[Vincent Oge]

Alexandre Petion likely a tpr since his attitude is abrasive, likely can prove his role
Anacona still hasnt contributed anything of worth, offered that he was a citizen too readily
Baissou seems like bored town
Boukman not much of a read
Capois LaMort likely town, offers fresh ideas just not many of them
Catherine Flon always pro-active, probably a mason
Charles Leclerc acts like pro town but doesn't really offer anything
Galbaud was doing fallout rp, now nowhere to be seen
Hedouville probably the mind melder himself, using pictures so he doesn't give away his night speaking pattern
Jean Jacques Dessalines not around much but pro town when around
Laveaux tries to get town to focus but hardly ever around
Mackandal the day chat slip could only mean mason
Napoleon Bonaparte claims cit, and acts like it
Peinier claims cit, buddies up with people, all filler posts, likely cult leader
Port-au-Prince posts pro town reads
Rochambeau didnt take pressure seriously, scummy but maybe trying to get killed neutral
Sanite Belaire attitude suggest tpr with proveable role
Sonthonax most likely neutral killer, rbed n1 then diddnt act n2 to avoid being called out by rber
Toussant L'Ouverturer obv invest
Vincent Oge me, a citizen

[Rochambeau]

Alexandre Petion likely a tpr since his attitude is abrasive, likely can prove his role
Anacona still hasnt contributed anything of worth, offered that he was a citizen too readily
Baissou seems like bored town
Boukman not much of a read
Capois LaMort likely town, offers fresh ideas just not many of them
Catherine Flon always pro-active, probably a mason
Charles Leclerc acts like pro town but doesn't really offer anything
Galbaud was doing fallout rp, now nowhere to be seen
Hedouville probably the mind melder himself, using pictures so he doesn't give away his night speaking pattern
Jean Jacques Dessalines not around much but pro town when around
Laveaux tries to get town to focus but hardly ever around
Mackandal the day chat slip could only mean mason
Napoleon Bonaparte claims cit, and acts like it
Peinier claims cit, buddies up with people, all filler posts, likely cult leader
Port-au-Prince posts pro town reads
Rochambeau didnt take pressure seriously, scummy but maybe trying to get killed neutral
Sanite Belaire attitude suggest tpr with proveable role
Sonthonax most likely neutral killer, rbed n1 then diddnt act n2 to avoid being called out by rber
Toussant L'Ouverturer obv invest
Vincent Oge me, a citizen

baissou is dead..

[Vincent Oge]

Gotta love how other than 2 people, I'm being lynched without question.

[Vincent Oge]

baissou is dead..

So fucking what? He was a player and I have a read for him.

[Rochambeau]

So fucking what? He was a player and I have a read for him.

Your reads are fake and made up and last minute smashed together

[Alexandre Petion]

Your reads are fake and made up and last minute smashed together

Better than your reads *cough*

[Vincent Oge]

Your reads are.. what? We still waiting for them?

That's what I thought.

[Rochambeau]

Your reads are.. what? We still waiting for them?

That's what I thought.
Fake reads are not better than no reads. sorry!

[Hedouville]

Alexandre Petion likely a tpr since his attitude is abrasive, likely can prove his role
Anacona still hasnt contributed anything of worth, offered that he was a citizen too readily
Baissou seems like bored town
Boukman not much of a read
Capois LaMort likely town, offers fresh ideas just not many of them
Catherine Flon always pro-active, probably a mason
Charles Leclerc acts like pro town but doesn't really offer anything
Galbaud was doing fallout rp, now nowhere to be seen
Hedouville probably the mind melder himself, using pictures so he doesn't give away his night speaking pattern
Jean Jacques Dessalines not around much but pro town when around
Laveaux tries to get town to focus but hardly ever around
Mackandal the day chat slip could only mean mason
Napoleon Bonaparte claims cit, and acts like it
Peinier claims cit, buddies up with people, all filler posts, likely cult leader
Port-au-Prince posts pro town reads
Rochambeau didnt take pressure seriously, scummy but maybe trying to get killed neutral
Sanite Belaire attitude suggest tpr with proveable role
Sonthonax most likely neutral killer, rbed n1 then diddnt act n2 to avoid being called out by rber
Toussant L'Ouverturer obv invest
Vincent Oge me, a citizen

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[Vincent Oge]

Keep saying it all you want, those are my honest reads and anyone paying attention to the game can see why I have them.

Probably the reason they don't make sense to you.

[Rochambeau]

Keep saying it all you want, those are my honest reads and anyone paying attention to the game can see why I have them.

Probably the reason they don't make sense to you.

its not that they dont maek sense to me.

[Alexandre Petion]

Citizen Claimers:
Galba
Napoleon
Mack
Peinier
Vincent Oge

If my notes are correct.

[Vincent Oge]

Again, I read pernier as cult leader. When I first stated this there were already pressure trains that I didn't want to derail. When I brought it up later it was dismissed for the same reason you are questioning me now.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

Better than your reads *cough*

This made me laugh a little. I was just considering Vincent's reads and they definitely don't look fake or made up. Instead, they show someone who has invested some time and focus into the FM. Unfortunately, it also puts me into a position of which role would put that much attention into their reads, cult leader or citizen? He states that Napoleon claims cit, and acts like it.

The discrepancy I see in this read, is that Napoleon has been trying to discuss what TPR's are, and some players he has singled out with suspicions of what TPR they are. Your reads, in constrast, leave most TPR guesses completely blank, and also seems to try and reveal your suspicions of Masons, which would have been better of not being suspected by town.

This evidence makes me more confident in the lynch. I would to thank you for your feedback regardless of my opinion, as it will be valuable later on whether I am wrong or right.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

Also a bit disconcerting that you rated Baissou as bored town, yet were part of the votes to lynch him. Why have you not been pressuring your reads? Your reads and tactics seem to differ too much for me to believe your citizen claim.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

sometimes figuring out who is town is a better tool than figuring out who is scum. Also, we should be getting more information out BEFORE people get culted and the information is lost forever.

If you think I'm scum, I would like to hear your read on me and not just a read on two of my posts.

[Vincent Oge]

What tactics would you believe? Outting myself d1 and acting like an idiot, sheeping without giving a reason?

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

What tactics would you believe? Outting myself d1 and acting like an idiot, sheeping without giving a reason?

It may have been better for your case, it was also suggested that the claimed citizens act as a unified vote at proper times. Not revealing has put you in a bad position. I believe there is a certain stress put on Citizens, that forces them to recycle the same information given to them in their head to try and put the puzzle together, but with 2 cult factions and a sk (somewhere) it adds even more stress and confusion as to whether to believe the information provided or not.

A clear example is Napoleon's posts asking about escort confirmation. Role speculation continued a bit, and a bit of a defensive moment by Napoleon when questioned about what he was doing, but after a mutual agreement was reached, Napoleon stopped. He figured out something, did not reveal it, and it made him content.

What he did not do, was directly give reads on who was a mason, only speculation on what Mason roles are in game. However, you revealed no TPR suspicions, some Mason suspicions, and a Cult Leader suspicion. Considering the win conditions of the different factions, I would fit you as cult leader, sharing non-town oriented feedback of Mason suspicions, as well as a Cult Leader suspicion for everyone to look into.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

I have to leave for appointments. I will return later tonight if the day continues to see what else happens.

@Napoleon... I never said you were scummy, I just voiced my concerns about your questions. Calm down.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

I have to leave for appointments. I will return later tonight if the day continues to see what else happens.

@Napoleon... I never said you were scummy, I just voiced my concerns about your questions. Calm down.

Can people stop telling me to calm down lol. I really am calm and was just wondering what you thought about me as an entire player.
I'm not angry at the thought of you thinking I am scum at all lol. I just read what you said wrong. You posting about his read on me made it seem like you thought I was scum, then your next post clarified that you didn't think I was scum and just that my action was scummy.

But srsly, I have been calm this entire game except @ Hedou, who is a tard who will either get culted really fast due to hard reads, or will be possessed by the ghost if one flips.

[Catherine Flon]

I was the one who suggested the claimed citizens act as a unified vote at proper times.

Then as Napoleon Bonaparte pointed at me, I also propose to search through citizens claimers first. That was the contradictory.

Napoleon has a free pass for scum-accusing since day 1. It will be pointless argue with him.



Anyway, come back to Oge's case.

It turns out as one result I expected that he claims citizen.

This vote at the start was a coin flip of many people desperately to lynch a cultist leader by the end of today.

I agree that aim at oge satisfy the couple scenarios:

if We are aim at citizen claimers first, thus:
1. he is a citizen claimer.

if We aim at non-citizen claimers:
2. He was checked as a citizen/cultist.

And that makes most people think it is a legit lynch.

However, ask yourself, because
Oge at least provided a read list, made his claim, argued of plans, is it not like we have completely no reason to excuse him from lynch?

Please Notice that his read list is controversial but not irreasonable.

However, most of you probably never thought of excuse him at first place, which is not cool but I also think it is reasonable.

Even so, I still think you all should not hammer him until the end of today, in case we fish out someone is even worse and a better target than him.

Oge has done what he can to defend, I think his case can rest now no matter if he will be lynched.

I want to get more during day time by asking response from other people, the juries.

Many of you already spoke about oge, but some of us have not.

Especially I want to hear from Anacona, Galbaud, Boukman, penier etc.

Before those one jump in and hammer.

Those ones will have impact to the game if they survive long.

[Catherine Flon]

I will also paste a report on actions, fill in all blanks if you saw any missing:

night 1
Bus driven - Galba
Roleblocked - Sontho
Mind meld - Hedo/Touss

Alex : Hedo had a visitor by non first 4 citizen claimer.


night 2
#901 Toussant :Alexandre Petion is a Lookout (#903)
#908 Toussant :Oge Cult Leader, Citizen, Disciple, Survivor, Amnesiac
#835 Toussant : was not on bus night 1&2
#847 Boukman : Bus/**soulswap
#805 Sanite Belaire: Bus
#769 Alex Petion : roleblocked
#888 Rochambeau : Gunsmith Vest-1

[Catherine Flon]

I just noticed that Toussant seems is not in MD night 2 but Hedo was still in there.

[Hedouville]

Can people stop telling me to calm down lol. I really am calm and was just wondering what you thought about me as an entire player.
I'm not angry at the thought of you thinking I am scum at all lol. I just read what you said wrong. You posting about his read on me made it seem like you thought I was scum, then your next post clarified that you didn't think I was scum and just that my action was scummy.

But srsly, I have been calm this entire game except @ Hedou, who is a tard who will either get culted really fast due to hard reads, or will be possessed by the ghost if one flips.

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[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Every also needs to remember this 100%:

Boukman is not a role that receives feedback, and can never lie about being one.
He claims that he was Soul Swapped, so either his feedback was swapped, or he is a role that doesn't receive feedback.

It's not much, but please remember this :D

[Sonthonax]

Napoleon, please stop raging.

Vincent, who is your prime suspect for today?

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Napoleon, please stop raging.

Vincent, who is your prime suspect for today?

wowowowowowowowowow u r just trying 2 make me rage n i will not stand 4 it.

[Hedouville]

wowowowowowowowowow u r just trying 2 make me rage n i will not stand 4 it.

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[Napoleon Bonaparte]

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no i m not mad at all.
i have specifically clarified serveral times that i m calm and just an abrasive person

You Dumb?

[Catherine Flon]

Napoleon, please stop raging.

Vincent, who is your prime suspect for today?

If he says penier/boukman, because penier/boukman has not voted yet, it might be a death claim if you ask him such question.

@ Napoleon Bonaparte
I think,

Boukman can be a role that receives feedback, but won't lie about being one.

as you said, he has to receive something in order to confirm that there is a soulswapper.

However, he also avoided those questions earlier and just go back to lurk.

We know the other one who was on bus/swapper, Sanite Belaire

if boukman release any information, it will be useful.

[Vincent Oge]

Napoleon, please stop raging.

Vincent, who is your prime suspect for today?


It may have been better for your case, it was also suggested that the claimed citizens act as a unified vote at proper times. Not revealing has put you in a bad position. I believe there is a certain stress put on Citizens, that forces them to recycle the same information given to them in their head to try and put the puzzle together, but with 2 cult factions and a sk (somewhere) it adds even more stress and confusion as to whether to believe the information provided or not.

A clear example is Napoleon's posts asking about escort confirmation. Role speculation continued a bit, and a bit of a defensive moment by Napoleon when questioned about what he was doing, but after a mutual agreement was reached, Napoleon stopped. He figured out something, did not reveal it, and it made him content.

What he did not do, was directly give reads on who was a mason, only speculation on what Mason roles are in game. However, you revealed no TPR suspicions, some Mason suspicions, and a Cult Leader suspicion. Considering the win conditions of the different factions, I would fit you as cult leader, sharing non-town oriented feedback of Mason suspicions, as well as a Cult Leader suspicion for everyone to look into.

This caught my eye, considering we don't know what the neutral killer is yet.

I understand how not claiming earlier looks bad. But I have been paying attention, contributing, and not trolling the whole game. Lynching me over some other citizen claimers is not a good idea.

[Alexandre Petion]

no i m not mad at all.
i have specifically clarified serveral times that i m calm and just an abrasive person

You Dumb?

Apparently that's both of us. Best of friends?

[Vincent Oge]

I will be back in a short while.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Either ya'll are trollin meh, or you are confusing aggressive and assertive behaviour with anger.
Maybe you all just have guilty consciences or an overlow of estergen


@ Catherine: Yes, he could be a role that receives feedback, but only is Sanite agrees that it was a Soul Swapper.

[Hedouville]

no i m not mad at all.
i have specifically clarified serveral times that i m calm and just an abrasive person

You Dumb?

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[Catherine Flon]

I also want to warn all voters that,

If a day ended early before the MD log on, then there will be no one in MD tonight.

Make sure everyone check in if a lynch happens.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

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lol this guy.
responds to me thinking I can see anything he posts and not just what his spoiler is named


I also want to warn all voters that,
If a day ended early before the MD log on, then there will be no one in MD tonight.
Make sure everyone check in if a lynch happens.

Yea, good point. 24 hours should be plenty of time for everyone to come on at least once.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

There isn't any reason not to wait as long as possible, though. Or at least until conversation dies down.

[Catherine Flon]

Since no new topic, I will explain the contradiction appointed by Napoleon Bonaparte in a short post:

If town can control votes, then cultists will not get much chance even if they get 4 max members.

Thus, I proposed that all citizens should vote together so that even if they get converted, they will be forced to vote on scums.

However, during day 1, it turns out citizen claimers went for different target despite they are roles having no clue.

Therefore, it suggest that either there are good volume of scums among them or citizen players have no eager to lead towns.

Then day 2, first few voters directly put pressure on citizen claimer, Mak.

That's when I saw plan from day 1 was not workable due to bankrupted credibility of citizen claims upon a Baissou Citizen fallout.

That is also when I saw a possibility to search among citizens claimers first.

However, I also see that no matter how, citizen claimers are still a good ratio on voting board.

As you might notice right now that Both Mak and Penier hold the power of hammer vote, that were two citizen claimers.

Therefore, I propose a compromise among citizen claimers to agree that we shall proceed from them.

Now it turns out Oge was another citizen claimer, so either way we are going to start from citizen claimers.

Napoleon Bonaparte is right about the contradiction. However, you all must know whats going on.

I therefore argue that I was not misleading.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Catherine, do you, or do you not, want to lynch Citizen claimers?
Also, do you think there is a Missionary?

[Catherine Flon]

Catherine, do you, or do you not, want to lynch Citizen claimers?
Also, do you think there is a Missionary?

I do not WANT to lynch citizen claimers.

Also, Read post #979 #963

As a role without direct information sources, I pressure, lynch and hammer by my own mechanic.

I refuse to reveal those in order to avoid manipulation,

but as long as I claim my role,

I will reveal the pattern according the plan I proposed night 1.

You, on the other side, should be more specific of your stand as one citizen claimer, answer the question of mine on post #329.

[Peinier]

Hello I was at school then had to go to some meeting for my new job I got back In a hour ago and I have some beer and I'm ready

Nothing happened to me last night

Vincent has kept his thoughts on me being scum all game and it makes me think he is executioner on me but he can't be due to the info given to us by toussant

I am not going to hammer yet since more disscussion can be found

[Peinier]

Oh and there we have the 6th cit claimed although its possible its highly unlikely so one cit claimed is lying

[Peinier]

Vincent also says I only post filler posts and buddies with everyone

Out of my 85 posts(excluding this one) I bet only 20~25 are filler posts

Yes I did buddy with hedo for day 1 and some of day 2 but no one else

[Peinier]

And it looks Like I come on whn he thread died

If anyone comes on to revive this thread please do so and I'm open to any questions for the next hour and a half.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Any ideas who I should check tonight?

Please cast your vote in bold teal text with reasoning and I will take suggestions into consideration when I choose my next target. I mainly want to see the reasoning please I think this is a good way to gain more information from people.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Penier please tell me who you think I should check tonight and why you think they are priority the utmost to check.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Penier is probably bad. I just asked him a question right when he posted to ask questions and now he disappeared.

[Peinier]

It depends on the outcome of the lynch

If Vincent is lynched and is citizen lynch THE ONE WHO HAMMERED
Because if someone hammers they either ask if they can OR they just do it if its the latter then they require a explanation however if you check them they may appear as a scum for hammering.

If Vincent is lynched and is a cultist/cult leader/neut then lynch SOMEONE WHO DIDENT VOTE HIM

Because as stupid as it sounds people will risk to not lynch a scummy player as they are scum them selves and checking them will not only give some good info but also a likely lynch candidate.

If Vincent is for some reason not lynched then CHECK Galbaud/Mackandal

Mainly because there two cit claimers who have not checked in or if they have not contributed to the disscussion and will confirm a town role or get us a lynch

And I was typing on my iPod so I'm not bad

[Peinier]

Oh and I went to get another beer from my fridge

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Maybe I will try to take notes on the game. I wish there was some nice citizen who would post tables of stuff as usual.

Looking at you Penier

[Peinier]

Wtf u mean by stuff like reads and such well ATM I can not but after my sleepings I will post my reads and such

But I'm not going to sleep now and toussant please explain whàt u meant by that post

[Peinier]

And before I prepare for my sleep in a hour or so do I have premisson to put Vincent on L-1

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

I wish a citizen would make tables of relevant information. That is all.

[Sonthonax]

And before I prepare for my sleep in a hour or so do I have premisson to put Vincent on L-1

Permission granted. Vincent is going down, I don't think anyone is willing to end this with no-lynch.

[Peinier]

[vote]vincent oge[\vote]

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Sonthonax

or

Port-au-Prince

[Peinier]

Fack u u racking slash dat slash is a bloody cunt

Vincent Oge

[Peinier]

@blown apart He also asked for reasoning

[Peinier]

And I will be 15 mins I'm going to watch some porn toodles

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Because I think Citizen claimers are a bad choice to check, because if they are scum they are Cult Leader.. who has the same pairing as Citizen. It'll give no information.

I feel like the people I chose are middle ground players that are blending in and not standing out in any way, shape or form.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

or maybe Catherine

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Vincent also says I only post filler posts and buddies with everyone

Out of my 85 posts(excluding this one) I bet only 20~25 are filler posts

Yes I did buddy with hedo for day 1 and some of day 2 but no one else

Why did you buddy with Hedo? What was the reasoning?

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

You, on the other side, should be more specific of your stand as one citizen claimer, answer the question of mine on post #329.

There is no question in #329

[Sonthonax]

Checking me is quite useless, but do whatever you want. Personally I'd like to have Catherine checked. And maybe Charles or Napoleon. You know, one of the "Town Leaders", because they always get recruited as soon as possible.

[Peinier]

It was a casual buddy plus everybody was hating on his pics communication so I tried to stop by buddying wit him and saying things to stop the hate but it dident work so I gave up

[Peinier]

I have a thought has anyone,anyone at all thought maybe just maybe toussant could of been converted

[Peinier]

Anyone else wanna ask me something cause I'm fine with a hammer atm

[Sonthonax]

Of course he can be converted, but it doesn't really matter now. Remember we have 2 Cults here, so even if Toussant wants to take down enemy leader it doesn't change current situation.



We have over 24h left and Vincent should have more time to defend. Maybe we can even pressure someone else.

[Catherine Flon]

We have over 24h left and Vincent should have more time to defend. Maybe we can even pressure someone else.

I am afraid that there is not much oge can do to his defense.

I agree we should pressure someone else, once we have enough free votes. Thanks for the unvote.

Boukman will be a time consume press. Any other choice we have? Otherwise I suggest focus pressure on Boukman.

[Catherine Flon]

There is no question in #329

There was no question mark, but there is a question.

Plus, what makes you be one of the anti-hedo except his picture?

I never bud with Hedo. I defended him but not bud.

I suspect you oppose to citizen search but refuse to openly speaking so.
Instead you undermine town leadership.

However, your own voting path is a 100/100 score helpful to me.

I never take you as any threat of day time.

I also think you as a risk taker.

However, your play style suggest that if you ever be converted, there will be trailess for us to check.

[Catherine Flon]

Anyone else wanna ask me something cause I'm fine with a hammer atm

One simple one,

If oge happens flip citizen, he accused you.

This is very likely causing you to be the next fos if no good lead from alex or toussant.

Will you make a better defense than what Oge did today? How?



Another more complicated one:

What is your read on Boukman?

[The Jester King]

There are 24 hours left before Day 3 end.

[Hedouville]

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[Hedouville]

I will be back in a short while.

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It depends on the outcome of the lynch

If Vincent is lynched and is citizen lynch THE ONE WHO HAMMERED
Because if someone hammers they either ask if they can OR they just do it if its the latter then they require a explanation however if you check them they may appear as a scum for hammering.

If Vincent is lynched and is a cultist/cult leader/neut then lynch SOMEONE WHO DIDENT VOTE HIM

Because as stupid as it sounds people will risk to not lynch a scummy player as they are scum them selves and checking them will not only give some good info but also a likely lynch candidate.

If Vincent is for some reason not lynched then CHECK Galbaud/Mackandal

Mainly because there two cit claimers who have not checked in or if they have not contributed to the disscussion and will confirm a town role or get us a lynch

And I was typing on my iPod so I'm not bad

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Wtf u mean by stuff like reads and such well ATM I can not but after my sleepings I will post my reads and such


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And I will be 15 mins I'm going to watch some porn toodles

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Checking me is quite useless, but do whatever you want. Personally I'd like to have Catherine checked. And maybe Charles or Napoleon. You know, one of the "Town Leaders", because they always get recruited as soon as possible.

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[Catherine Flon]

Oge Voters Reads:

Toussant L'Ouverturer, Coinflip #910 Aim for a role claim #919

Port-au-Prince, Sheep#965

Charles Leclerc, Role?Check #924 Sheep#942 Lynchconsider#969 Coinflip#1025

Napoleon Bonaparte, GambSheep#917 Killbenignh#922

Rochambeau, Sheep#939

Laveaux, Sheep#952

Jean Jacques Dessalines, Scumconsider#986#998 commentonread#1059 Hunt#1060

Peinier, Scumconsider#1087 counterclaim#1088 Coinflip#1094

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Potential Voters:

Alex Petion Make a stand #925 commentonread#1051

Sonthonax Cultist suspection #927

Sanite Belaire Hammer Reserve #931


22222222222222222222222222222222222222222Oge's read with some color to high light voters:

Alexandre Petion likely a tpr since his attitude is abrasive, likely can prove his role
Anacona still hasnt contributed anything of worth, offered that he was a citizen too readily
Baissou seems like bored town
Boukman not much of a read
Capois LaMort likely town, offers fresh ideas just not many of them
Catherine Flon always pro-active, probably a mason
Charles Leclerc acts like pro town but doesn't really offer anything
Galbaud was doing fallout rp, now nowhere to be seen
Hedouville probably the mind melder himself, using pictures so he doesn't give away his night speaking pattern
Jean Jacques Dessalines not around much but pro town when around
Laveaux tries to get town to focus but hardly ever around
Mackandal the day chat slip could only mean mason
Napoleon Bonaparte claims cit, and acts like it
Peinier claims cit, buddies up with people, all filler posts, likely cult leader
Port-au-Prince posts pro town reads
Rochambeau didnt take pressure seriously, scummy but maybe trying to get killed neutral
Sanite Belaire attitude suggest tpr with proveable role
Sonthonax most likely neutral killer, rbed n1 then diddnt act n2 to avoid being called out by rber
Toussant L'Ouverturer obv invest
Vincent Oge me, a citizen

[Catherine Flon]

Still waiting for Boukman, Anacona, Mackandal to comment on oge.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Well should we rather lynch Sonthonax today instead of Vincent?

[Hedouville]

Still waiting for Boukman, Anacona, Mackandal to comment on oge.

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Vincent Oge

[Catherine Flon]

Well should we rather lynch Sonthonax today instead of Vincent?

Impossible. Oge is beyond the save unless there are other missing pieces we can find a worse target.

Either case, Sonthonax is not my interests.

[Hedouville]

Well should we rather lynch Sonthonax today instead of Vincent?

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[Catherine Flon]

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Vincent Oge

I can hammer right now, but I also want to hear some thing from MD.

What was it like last night?

Toussant said he was not in MD, but you were.

What about the mystery third one?

[Catherine Flon]

Also I would do the same as yesterday, I would wait Boukman, Anacona, Mackandal to hammer, if not, one of the three potential voters will hammer him anyway.

Oge is beyond the save, but it is also a good chance to see people's performances.

[Hedouville]

I can hammer right now, but I also want to hear some thing from MD.

What was it like last night?

Toussant said he was not in MD, but you were.

What about the mystery third one?

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[Catherine Flon]

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Alright, I will hammer then.

However, this will at a cost chance to observe Mak and boukman.

Vincent Oge

I hope MD has logged in and you will have a even better night chat this time.

Hope people survive.

[The Godfather]

Vincent Oge has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Vincent Oge ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/11328') (10 [L-0]): Hedouville ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=394636'), Toussant L'Ouverturer ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=394190'), Catherine Flon ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=394642'), Port-au-Prince ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=394245'), Charles Leclerc ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=394222'), Napoleon Bonaparte ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=394197'), Rochambeau ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=394219'), Laveaux ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=394232'), Jean Jacques Dessalines ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=394301'), Peinier ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=394392')
Laveaux ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/11319') (1 [L-9]): Mackandal ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=394051')
Boukman ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/11312') (1 [L-9]): Vincent Oge ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=394096')

[The Jester King]

Day 3 is over and Vincent Oge was lynched. His role was Citizen

Night 3 end at this time (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=november+9+2013+9%3A00+PM+EST)

Vincent Oge was a wealthy and educated free man of color. He was taken, claimed that he was a mere citizen. The people did not believe him. As they were discussing his death sentence, Vincent couldn't take it anymore. He saw his opportunity and ran to the exit. He felt the pouring rain on his face as he ran. The people started to chase him. They were fast, but Vincent was faster. He ran into the wood and he thought he lost them. It wasn't long until he realized he was walking in deep mud. Eventually he realized he was stuck in a quicksand. He struggled to get out, but he sank faster. He relaxed a little and remained stuck up to his chest. He waited and waited for help. A few days later the people found him dead by dehydration and exposure. It turned out that he was only a citizen.

Reminder: Night are 48 hours long instead of 24 hours. All night actions must be submitted by 2 hours before night end. Have a nice sleep.

Announcement: There is a small error in feedbacks for Night 2, it didn't impact anything. The correct feedback will be sent to the players.

[The Jester King]

Day 4 has begun!

Nobody was killed last night!

Day 4 end at this time (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=november+11+2013+9%3A00+PM+EST)

With 18 people alive, it takes 10


Another day came. Another day without any deaths. The rain stopped, but it is still cloudy and windy. The temperature also dropped greatly. This eerie fact left a dark feeling around the town. There are rumors that people are found using dark magic. The people weren't convinced. However this morning, everyone found a doll laying on their chest when they wake. As everyone looked closely to the doll, it looked exactly the same as the person. They also found out that whatever happen to the dolls, will happen to the person. The people went on to their lives pretending they didn't know about the dolls. They felt it was safe to not reveal about their own dolls.


Players List
Alexandre Petion
Anacona
Baissou
Boukman
Capois LaMort
Catherine Flon
Charles Leclerc
Galbaud
Hedouville
Jean Jacques Dessalines
Laveaux
Mackandal
Napoleon Bonaparte
Peinier
Port-au-Prince
Rochambeau
Sanite Belaire
Sonthonax
Toussant L'Ouverturer
Vincent Oge



Role List
Louisana Cult Leader
Haitian Cult Leader
Hidden Mason
Hidden Mason
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Hidden Neutral Killer
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Any

Not crossed off:
Louisana Soul Swapper

Graveyard
Baissou - Citizen - beheaded by angry mobs on Day 2
Vincent Oge - Citizen - escaped from the angry mobs but died of dehydration and exposure in a quicksand on Day 3
Peinier - Louisana Soul Swapper - lynched on Day 4

[Catherine Flon]

As I worried, Oge is a citizen. It was a coin flip, I could not blame toussant and many others on that. Now still pin boukman.

I had a same night as night 1 and 2.

Boukman

[Peinier]

Nothing happened to meh

I want to hear toussants feedback

In the meantime boukman if we pressure anyone it's this lurker

[Peinier]

Also the day start RP seems to be hinting Theres a doll master

[Catherine Flon]

Also the day start RP seems to be hinting Theres a doll master

Very likely, but I do not know if host did this rp intended in sympathy of town or else.

[Catherine Flon]

If blacksmith is converted into cultist without send out any gun, really bad.

If I were Blacksmith, I would have sent out gun at least last night.

We lost the probably only protector/killer role.

[Sanite Belaire]

I am the blacksmith. Before you criticize me for a seemingly uncalled-for claim, this has a point. I sent Rocha a vest on night 2. He could have verified me if he hadn't said something about that. Fuck you, Rocha.

I have a student. I gave my student a gun last night after discussing it at length. We concluded that I would claim and allow everyone help decide who to shoot. Scum can only grow at this rate and so we have to be proactive. My student will remain incognito for now so don't ask for my student's identity.

Some requests to kill will be outright ignored. This is because my student and I have twice the headpower as you probably have. Plus, I'm not going to make my student shoot himself or me. You have to understand.

I ask this then. Vote for your target (in cyan) and give some clear reasoning for the kill. I want my student and I to be able to weigh our options without any vague bits of reasoning.

Scum killers: If you kill me then there will be a blacksmith with a new set of charges. My student will have proof of being my student. Don't think about it.

Cult: I'm saving my last charge for when I need to verify myself. If I don't have that last charge then I'll be proven to be cult. It'd be stupid to convert me.

[Sanite Belaire]

So who do you want shot? We can lynch today, and then my student will shoot someone tonight. It's like two lynches!

[Catherine Flon]

Great, you matched my guess!

[Catherine Flon]

I gonna just send out my role list, remember I am a role without direct information so a lot of erros are expected.



Culitsts
1.Louisana Cult Leader
2.Haitian Cult Leader

Masons
3.Missionary Anacona
4.Preacher Rochambeau

Town PoweR
5.Hidden Tpr Charles Leclerc
6.Lookout Alexandre Petion
7.Investigator Toussant L'Ouverturer
8.Mind Melder Catherine Flon
9.Escort Hedouville
10.Bus Driver Jean Jacques Dessalines
11.Blacksmith Sanite Belaire

Citizens
12.Citizen Baissou
13.Citizen Vincent Oge

14.Citizen Peinier
15.Citizen Capois LaMort
16.Citizen Napoleon Bonaparte

Neutrals
17.joker
18.Amnesiac Sonthonax
19.Survivor Port-au-Prince
20.Ghost

[Sanite Belaire]

Great, you matched my guess!

I'm happy that you're satisfied!

[Sanite Belaire]

Wait, Cath you claim MM? Tell me one person who is not Hedo or Toussant who can back that up. I've been suspicious of that gig since only 2 people have claimed mind melded until now (coincidentally when a cult could have 3 members). It would ease some fear on my part.

[Catherine Flon]

I havent edited the student into the list, the list is from day 2.

[Sanite Belaire]

I havent edited the student into the list, the list is from day 2.

Don't. I want my student to remain anonynous

[Catherine Flon]

Lets just role call and give it a shot. I dont want to eat bullet since you already hand out the gun.

The main aim is still the cultist leader not anyone else.

[Catherine Flon]

Lets say, I soft claim MM right now and I will not given any proof unless you all vote me up.

Convert me if anyone dare.

Missionary please do not come to my house.

[Sanite Belaire]

Lets say, I soft claim MM right now and I will not given any proof unless you all vote me up.

Convert me if anyone dare.

Missionary please do not come to my house.

Give us one name. That is all that I require. It proves that you aren't all part of a cult. What is so damn hard about that?

[Alexandre Petion]

Wait, Cath you claim MM? Tell me one person who is not Hedo or Toussant who can back that up. I've been suspicious of that gig since only 2 people have claimed mind melded until now (coincidentally when a cult could have 3 members). It would ease some fear on my part.

I would like this as well.
Also I know for a fact that your citizen list and your neutral list each have 1 name in error.
I will hold off for now before I reveal my night feedback and results. I'm awaiting a certain condition :D

[Catherine Flon]

Give us one name. That is all that I require. It proves that you aren't all part of a cult. What is so damn hard about that?

I cant do it. MD is the highest secret of town. I will not release anything I know unless I aim to lynch anyone.

Official lead please ask Hedoville.

[Sanite Belaire]

I cant do it. MD is the highest secret of town. I will not release anything I know unless I aim to lynch anyone.

Official lead please ask Hedoville.

Realize that I and my student will be hard pressed to find a reason to keep you alive if I am not in the mind meld chat tonight unless you give us a name today. I want proof this isn't a cult. I want it provable to me. I don't want excuses or "I will give proof later on"

[Catherine Flon]

Realize that I and my student will be hard pressed to find a reason to keep you alive if I am not in the mind meld chat tonight unless you give us a name today. I want proof this isn't a cult. I want it provable to me. I don't want excuses or "I will give proof later on"

I will wait untill Hedo and Toussant think its okay. I can act on my part but not involve others into unwanted situation.

From what you say, I know your student is probably the one in MD. I probably put him as one tpr in the role list.

Why? Because you know the 3rd person is not me last night.

@Alexandre Petion You definitly saw interested things.

[Sanite Belaire]

I don't need to use special information to think that having only 3 people to claim to have been mind melded is suspicious. Especially when the least empathetic bastard claims to have been in the MM chat twice. That's fucking suspicious. I want to know why the fuck you invited Hedo at least twice.

[Port-au-Prince]

OK, the moment you've all been waiting for. First off, I actually have good grammar and I finally decided to use it. More importantly, I am a Mason, specifically a Charm Maker. My night 1 target was Hedouville, which is what he was referring to when he said he had information about the masons. My other 2 targets will remain undisclosed for the time being (I don't believe either of them has claimed receiving a charm yet, if I remember correctly). My fellow mason is a Witch Hunter: I've been trying to not-so-subtly hint that there was no Missionary in the game since day 1, but now you know for sure. Sonthonax and Alexandre were indeed targeted by my fellow mason, but I will address tonight's target at a later date.

[Sanite Belaire]

OK, the moment you've all been waiting for. First off, I actually have good grammar and I finally decided to use it. More importantly, I am a Mason, specifically a Charm Maker. My night 1 target was Hedouville, which is what he was referring to when he said he had information about the masons. My other 2 targets will remain undisclosed for the time being (I don't believe either of them has claimed receiving a charm yet, if I remember correctly). My fellow mason is a Witch Hunter: I've been trying to not-so-subtly hint that there was no Missionary in the game since day 1, but now you know for sure. Sonthonax and Alexandre were indeed targeted by my fellow mason, but I will address tonight's target at a later date.

My student got a charm. I hope you understand why I say that.

[Port-au-Prince]

My student got a charm. I hope you understand why I say that.

I understand.

Catherine, now that I'm out in the open, if you are in fact the Mind Melder I would like to ask you later today to put me in your chat.

[Catherine Flon]

I understand.

Catherine, now that I'm out in the open, if you are in fact the Mind Melder I would like to ask you later today to put me in your chat.

Very well. I have been send out secret information that no one claim masons in MD.

Good to know that then.

[Sanite Belaire]

I understand.

Catherine, now that I'm out in the open, if you are in fact the Mind Melder I would like to ask you later today to put me in your chat.

Good.

Cath, since all three of us are out in the open I ask that you bring both Port and I into your chat. Unless you decide that you could drop a name and then I don't need to be in the chat (Cath -> Chat lol) but I would appreciate it.

[Alexandre Petion]

OK, the moment you've all been waiting for. First off, I actually have good grammar and I finally decided to use it. More importantly, I am a Mason, specifically a Charm Maker. My night 1 target was Hedouville,

I confirm this ^.^ (if it makes a difference)

[Sanite Belaire]

9.Escort Hedouville


Wait wait wait, Cath, if you say that no one in your chat claimed mason, yet Hedo was in the chat (at least) twice, then how does this work out? Shouldn't he have claimed his role in the chat?

AFAIK there's a witch hunter and the charm maker (confirmed by Alex) but there's only one roleblocked claim every day, where the fuck does an escort fit into the rolelist?

[Alexandre Petion]

Didn't Sonothax say that he was pretty confident there was an escort too? If I remember correctly, he was betting on there not being a witch hunter for some reason.

[Sanite Belaire]

Didn't Sonothax say that he was pretty confident there was an escort too? If I remember correctly, he was betting on there not being a witch hunter for some reason.

He was wrong, it appears.

[Port-au-Prince]

Didn't Sonothax say that he was pretty confident there was an escort too? If I remember correctly, he was betting on there not being a witch hunter for some reason.

It could be possible that he was recruited on night 1 and also targeted on the same night and, not knowing the OoO at the time, assumed that he would've been killed by a witch hunter so it must've been an escort.... again, mere speculation.

[Alexandre Petion]

He was wrong, it appears.

I wonder why he was so inclined to assume there wasn't one.

Prince, depending on how day goes, would you assist me by picking which list your associate is in if I asked?

List 1
Catherine Flon
Galbaud
Rochambeau
Mackandal
Anacona
Toussant L'Ouverturer
Sonthonax
Jean Jacques Dessalines

List 2
Sanite Belaire
Napoleon Bonaparte
Peinier
Charles Leclerc
Capois LaMort
Hedouville
Laveaux
Boukman

[Catherine Flon]

The role list was designed to misleading, especially designed to hide MD chat secrets.

if you already sit in a town seat, just calm down.

[Alexandre Petion]

It could be possible that he was recruited on night 1 and also targeted on the same night and, not knowing the OoO at the time, assumed that he would've been killed by a witch hunter so it must've been an escort.... again, mere speculation.

Something I was pointing out that we should keep in mind ^.^

[Catherine Flon]

Many people thought there was a escort, so I put a escort in rather than masons.

I didn't expect Port Au reveals.

Plus, I have been false casting a missionary to cause panic to cultists, though I do not know how much it does.

[Sanite Belaire]

The role list was designed to misleading, especially designed to hide MD chat secrets.

if you already sit in a town seat, just calm down.

Then why post it at all if the point of it was to mislead?

[Port-au-Prince]

I wonder why he was so inclined to assume there wasn't one.

Prince, depending on how day goes, would you assist me by picking which list your associate is in if I asked?

List 1
Catherine Flon
Galbaud
Rochambeau
Mackandal
Anacona
Toussant L'Ouverturer
Sonthonax
Jean Jacques Dessalines

List 2
Sanite Belaire
Napoleon Bonaparte
Peinier
Charles Leclerc
Capois LaMort
Hedouville
Laveaux
Boukman

I don't feel inclined to disclose that information at this time: he or she has a plan for revealing themselves when the time is right, and we also have a system implemented where he or she can confirm themselves through me without me explicitly having to do anything. That being said, I'm not going to narrow down the list by 50%: all I will tell you is that it's not Hedouville, Sonthonax, or yourself.

[Catherine Flon]

his student is in list 2 if I guessed right earlier.

[Sanite Belaire]

his student is in list 2 if I guessed right earlier.

What the fuck did I say about trying to figure out who my student is in day chat? Don't. My student will remain incognito.

[Catherine Flon]

Sorry, my bad.

[Alexandre Petion]

I don't feel inclined to disclose that information at this time: he or she has a plan for revealing themselves when the time is right, and we also have a system implemented where he or she can confirm themselves through me without me explicitly having to do anything. That being said, I'm not going to narrow down the list by 50%: all I will tell you is that it's not Hedouville, Sonthonax, or yourself.

Noted. Just trying to narrow down if my target is cult or mason.
I might touch on this again later depending on the results brought from last night.

[Alexandre Petion]

What the fuck did I say about trying to figure out who my student is in day chat? Don't. My student will remain incognito.


Sorry, my bad.

Lol'd. I agree we should keep the student hidden for now. Not sure if you are intentionally going against Belaire's wishes or what.

[Catherine Flon]

Lol'd. I agree we should keep the student hidden for now. Not sure if you are intentionally going against Belaire's wishes or what.

I was trying to tell you some info rather than directly say it. I do not have investigative ability other than read chat anyway.

He should forgive me on that.

[Sanite Belaire]

I was trying to tell you some info rather than directly say it. I do not have investigative ability other than read chat anyway.

He should forgive me on that.

No I won't. I trust my student to stay hidden but I will also keep people from actively speculating. My student is trustworthy and if the cult happen to find him because some bitch can't fucking keep her mouth shut then I lose that trustworthiness. I would probably be compromised because of that trust. Don't. Fucking. Do. It.

[Catherine Flon]

No I won't. I trust my student to stay hidden but I will also keep people from actively speculating. My student is trustworthy and if the cult happen to find him because some bitch can't fucking keep her mouth shut then I lose that trustworthiness. I would probably be compromised because of that trust. Don't. Fucking. Do. It.

Then great, you should also think my position. If I reveal whoever has been in MD, then how I can still trust them?

Similar as you to your student and me to my MD chosen, we all rely on chat only.

At least we both think our partners are trustworthy.

[Sanite Belaire]

Then great, you should also think my position. If I reveal whoever has been in MD, then how I can still trust them?

Similar as you to your student and me to my MD chosen, we all rely on chat only.

At least we both think our partners are trustworthy.

I'm letting that go as long as I am assured a spot in the mind meld. I want proof that you're not cult and that would be enough for me.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

HELLO,
Nothing happened to me last night, I haven't really read too much, just skimmed a bit.

My gut instinct is to not fully trust Sanite & Student. Since we have a confirmed Investigator, I checked to see what cult role shares a pairing with Student. The only role was Doll Master. If roch really got a vest, then we more than likely have an Blacksmith. A Cult member and a Blacksmith turned Doll Master would be smart to claim Student & Town (something the same as the Cult Member's Investigative Pairing).
Probably unlikely, but should be considered.

Also, I wish Mind Melder chat would be reposted today. It should be analyzed by everyone. It gives us valuable reads on a specific group of people that will be forced to talk in MM chat exactly because everyone will be analyzing it the following day. I guess if people are claiming roles in it, that kind of stuff should be censored, but I think we'd benefit from additional reads on people.

anyways, will read the day completely when i have more time.. already spent longer than i had available typing this all out lol

[Sanite Belaire]

Napoleon, you don't have to trust me for the gun to shoot someone. That's the beauty of my plan. It will naturally occur without any help from anybody else.

Also, will you please claim your role again. Too many citizens have died and I would like to know if you still claim citizen.

[Catherine Flon]

I'm letting that go as long as I am assured a spot in the mind meld. I want proof that you're not cult and that would be enough for me.

MD is the hardest one to lie in game, you think about it or ask Alexander Petion.

Remember, "Kills on cult, and serial killer reward one charge. (No charge if saved)"



@ Nap MD information pressing is in Hedoville's hand since he was elected to be the speaker of MD.

Toussant is the exception because the day 1 trial.

In any case, come back to Boukman, I can not find a good town seat for him/her.

[Sanite Belaire]

MD is the hardest one to lie in game, you think about it or ask Alexander Petion.

Remember, "Kills on cult, and serial killer reward one charge. (No charge if saved)"



@ Nap MD information pressing is in Hedoville's hand since he was elected to be the speaker of MD.

Toussant is the exception because the day 1 trial.

In any case, come back to Boukman, I can not find a good town seat for him/her.

That's why I ask solely for a name of a person who can say, "yes, I was in the mind meld chat". I am not asking for a role claim, reads, feedback, night action or anything. I want verification.

Bouk needs to talk, yes. But I would actually like to deffer to Port, since he knows who my student is and who his mason buddy is. He is less likely to accidentally pressure someone who needs to stay hidden. Port, who should we pressure/lynch today?

[Rochambeau]

Good day, i seem to have woken up some place else =O

[Port-au-Prince]

Good day, i seem to have woken up some place else =O

Everyone claim their feedback from today please.

[Hedouville]

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[Hedouville]

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[Catherine Flon]

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Very well, so I do not have to tell the third person in order to prove myself then.

However, Hedo, do you have confidence that you can handle the talk between you and the blacksmith?

He was not selected into MD has reasons behind.

[Catherine Flon]

Also, these two days gonna be some serious lynch day, I believe the two/three investigative roles have gained enough to hang one cultist leader, especially with many revealed.

[Hedouville]

Very well, so I do not have to tell the third person in order to prove myself then.

However, Hedo, do you have confidence that you can handle the talk between you and the blacksmith?

He was not selected into MD has reasons behind.

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[Catherine Flon]

Hedo, do you think Boukman is a good pressure target?

She/He is not a student, mason, citizen, busdriver, investigator, lookout, mind melder.

[Alexandre Petion]

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Hi.

[Alexandre Petion]

Hedo am I correct in assuming the only feedback you got last night was that you were mind melded?
Have you claimed your role to anyone yet?

[Hedouville]

Hedo, do you think Boukman is a good pressure target?

She/He is not a student, mason, citizen, busdriver, investigator, lookout, mind melder.

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Hedo am I correct in assuming the only feedback you got last night was that you were mind melded?
Have you claimed your role to anyone yet?

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[Alexandre Petion]

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There's nothing you need to know. I prefer to stay away from assuming anything so I just wanted to make sure that was your claim.

Sounds good enough for now I suppose.

Awaiting feedback, I am :P

Question for all: What do you think about a town protective role? Do you think we have one? If there is a Joker in the game, it's likely we could have a doctor to help prevent that kill along with any cult attacks.

If we do have a town protective role, there's still 4 town spots left. With 2 citizens dead, would there be 4 more cits or maybe one more TPR hidden among them?

[Charles Leclerc]

Bonjour, everyone. Charles Leclerc is at your service.

I'm not surprised that we are having a mass reveal today. As expected, we indeed have a Witch Hunter AND a Blacksmith. That is good. So should we return to our original pressure target then?

Boukman

I agree with Catherine that case with Vincent Oge was a coin flip. But right now we have another problem. There can be up to 4 possible people converted right now. And Town PRs could be among then even now. That Blacksmith just probably revealed himself in order to be not smitedby Witch Hunter - why else he would reveal himself on Day 4? Something you should think ahead of. Yeah, he was roleblocked by Witch Hunter before but who knows what cult leaders might pull on Night 3. IF the blacksmith gets converted, then the student's win condition will change as well (that is, if he indeed has a student). Have you even not realized that, guys?!

[Hedouville]

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[Catherine Flon]

@Charles L

I indeed have considered that once Sanite Belaire revealed.

I followed with a soft reveal and a role list fishing in order to get the best result out of this black smith reveal.

As long as we handle it well, the chance of pushing forward is maximized if we reveal this many.

If things not happen in our favor, then it will become hopeless in near future anyway.

[Catherine Flon]

Blacksmith combined with a student is really a terrible target to convert.

Because thinking if blacksmith and student are converted into different faction of cultist, a potential spy will be terrible.

A cultists group who converted blacksmith has to find a way to convert student, and avoid witch hunter and lookout.

Therefore, only the cultist group which already converted student might want to convert blacksmith.

Even though, things are complicated.

[Hedouville]

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Toussant L'Ouverturer

[Catherine Flon]

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Toussant L'Ouverturer

What happened?

I am not going to easily kill an investigative player as long as he provides useful information.

[Port-au-Prince]

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Toussant L'Ouverturer

Today we do not lynch mere cultists but we aim for cult leaders: my fellow mason shall deal with fallen town members by the light of the moon. It is much harder for my fellow mason to kill cult leaders, though, since they have autovests, and lynching them is much preferred.

[Port-au-Prince]

To my fellow mason, in your next post, please indicate the success or failure of your action as follows:
A) If you received "purged" feedback, have the first sentence of your next post be the same word length of the 2nd line of your final post in night chat.
B) If you received "roleblocked" feedback (you roleblocked your target), please use fewer words than the 2nd line instead.
C) If your action was in some way interrupted (IE you were roleblocked/witched), please use more words than the 2nd line instead.

[Catherine Flon]

Aim at lynch cultist leader, rather than cultists, I have said so day 1.

Remove the root, the tree will die along with it.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Oh hello everyone I am here.

[Catherine Flon]

Oh hello everyone I am here.

Hedo has dispute with you. Alex saw things last night.

You must speak of your lead every day now. Otherwise curse will be in your nightmare.

[Hedouville]

Aim at lynch cultist leader, rather than cultists, I have said so day 1.

Remove the root, the tree will die along with it.

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[Catherine Flon]

If that is so, then I shall reveal the MD member list.

Your call is important however, the triangle has three equal sides.

I will have to listen the defense of the Third later today.

I am not surprised to hear you say so,

you three melded one wasn't acting as one so I have been skeptical so far.

Choosing you as the speaker must because of your neutral trait.

[Galbaud]

sorry guys yesterday Paladin Galbaud was at a very important emergency session and thus could not show up yesterday.

summary of session:
according to field reports enclave got reinforcements and is even stronger than expected
liberty prime is clear for battle
operation enduring steel will commence at 22nd of march 2279, around 10 pm (in about 10 hours)
paladin galbaud is still a citizen
all forces have been sent out and will be ready for battle in about 7h
apart from that meeting nothing happened to paladin galbaud last night

conversation between initiate etinas and initiate autrop who joined the brotherhood 3 months ago and have just finished their basic training and would soon be promoted:
initiate autrop: you feel ready for this shit?
definitely, i already want to blow their fucking enclave asses up. i've always been looking forward to my first fight
i dont know... this is not the kind of battle i expected for my first fight. i wish i already had some battle experience
don't worry. we'll make it, that's for sure.
i sure hope so... repeating silently i sure hope so.
knight captain nolf: come on guys get your fucking asses up and get ready for mission launch in 30 mike

10:02 pm

this is field commander to all, field commander to all, over
team alpha is reading, over
bravo team reading over
charlie reading over
delta reading over
liberty prime fire support team reading over
this is sarah lyons, lyons pride is reading
this is vertibird commander, vertibird 1-9 online

this is field commander, operation enduring steel has green light. mission launch in 2 mike. how copy
all said solid copy.
over and out


10:04 pm
this is field commander, this is field commander, we are mission launch for operation enduring steel! i repeat, WE ARE MISSION LAUNCH
*epic music starts*


to be continued

[Catherine Flon]

"paladin galbaud is still a citizen."

[Hedouville]

If that is so, then I shall reveal the MD member list.

Your call is important however, the triangle has three equal sides.

I will have to listen the defense of the Third later today.

I am not surprised to hear you say so,

you three melded one wasn't acting as one so I have been skeptical so far.

Choosing you as the speaker must because of your neutral trait.

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[Catherine Flon]

You are saying that cultist leader were there night 1 and night 2.

I know it is not toussant, and you claim survivor.

Of course I know who you refer to.

However, I am still going to press case by case in my pace.

When do you think joker will strike?

[Hedouville]

You are saying that cultist leader were there night 1 and night 2.

I know it is not toussant, and you claim survivor.

Of course I know who you refer to.

However, I am still going to press case by case in my pace.

When do you think joker will strike?

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[Galbaud]

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[Galbaud]

knight peinier has my full trust.

[Galbaud]

oh and also knight captain nolf and the 2 initiates

[Catherine Flon]

Thanks for your role, Hedo, now we can narrow it down more.

I will let toussant live, however, masons may not let him live.

The 3rd cultist is not important for these two days.

We just need hunt down a leader or two.

Also, they will not come after you. They will struggle living.

I will exposure the third, and everyone will know later, just not now.

For now, boukman should give a stand.

[Catherine Flon]

oh and also knight captain nolf and the 2 initiates

Paladin, please give some comment on baissou and oge.

[Hedouville]

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[Catherine Flon]

I think Boukman has to be the other cultist leader.

I don't feel to let him get away again anymore.

[Hedouville]

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[Galbaud]

Paladin, please give some comment on baissou and oge.

they're both dead. they were good knights. they died in honor

[Charles Leclerc]

What's up with Hedouville? His behavior has definitely changed. It's as if... he is trying to pull some kind of gambit.

[Peinier]

dat plan tho galbaud

so will i be flanking the enclaves position with a task force of 10 to move to there vertibird fuel reserves where i shall plant a remote plasma bomb which should destroy there grounded vertibirds and the ammory which holds there heavy weaponry

[Galbaud]

dat plan tho galbaud

so will i be flanking the enclaves position with a task force of 10 to move to there vertibird fuel reserves where i shall plant a remote plasma bomb which should destroy there grounded vertibirds and the ammory which holds there heavy weaponry

yes your task force is not part of the main attack force, you already sneaked in their base and planted the bomb which detonated when the mission was launched

[Alexandre Petion]

Hedouville, if toussant was converted, when was he converted?

Also, Toussant you wanna claim night results and feedback before just disappearing and being useless?

Charles, Hedouville really isn't acting any different. He's been playing like this the whole time. It's just now we are having more information to actually take plans and gambits.

[Laveaux]

Hello, I'd like to express my WTF to Galbaud for whatever he is.

Anyway, for three nights I have not received a single feedback of any sort. However, it gives a red light that a Survivor has claimed. That means we have one less Neutral Benign to look for and that the others might be the worse kind of neutral.

[Alexandre Petion]

Hello, I'd like to express my WTF to Galbaud for whatever he is.

Anyway, for three nights I have not received a single feedback of any sort. However, it gives a red light that a Survivor has claimed. That means we have one less Neutral Benign to look for and that the others might be the worse kind of neutral.

We've had a claim for survivor and for a student.

[Sonthonax]

Hello, nothing happened to me tonight.

I have no idea why Hedouville who claims Survivor would know anything about Cult Leader...unless of course it's some kind of gambit. I'm not going to vote him based on that obviously.

Sanite gave us interesting proposal, I think we should take it. It's probably good idea to give Charms to Sanite so he can't be witched into giving Guns to the Cultists.

Galbaud, WTF? How about you write something useful. For now, I'm voting Galbaud to be shot.

Catherine, I also would like to see Sanite or Alexandre in the Mindmelder chat. Sticking with the same targets for three nights looks really suspicious.

Right now I don't have better idea, so I might just as well help building pressure:

Boukman

[Charles Leclerc]

Why Hedouville claimed himself Survivor right now? And why he voted Toussant'D Overturer of all people? This is not the role that he claimed to us in the Mind Melder chat.

Yeah, I, Hedouville and Toussant were melded in the same night chat. Straight for 3 nights Catherine melded all of us together. Toussant claimed himself Investigator, and asked us for our roles. I revealed my role first, and Hedouville revealed his role second. His role claim was much more different than here - he claimed to us that he is a certain Town PR. And - please take notice of that - back during the very first night he pleaded Toussant'D Overturer NOT to check him during the first night. Toussant originally wanted to check him on Night 1, and myself on Night 2. But as you already know, Toussant decided to check Vincent Oge N1, then Alexandre Petion N2, and finally Port-au-Prince N3. I thought that Hedouville was not lying to us, but what he is trying to do right now makes no sense to me. The fact that he was not checked by Toussant leads me to believe that he could be hiding something more sinister. Either Hedouville is a Cult Leader, or someone who have been already converted by the Cult.

So why you don't ask him what role he claimed to me and Toussant back during Night 1? I'm not going to reveal the entire truth to you until he speaks himself first. And Catherine, do NOT put him up in the mind meld chat before someone checks him first.

[Sonthonax]

If I've read correctly Hedouville claimed Escort before. Someone mentioned it before. Is that correct?

[Charles Leclerc]

There is also another problem - if there is indeed a cult among us then they are certainly already know about our conversion. Depending on the circumstances I'll have to reveal my role as well because there is no point in hiding it if the cult already knows about our discussion.

And no, I don't remember him claiming himself Escort. Well, at least in our night chat. He claimed a different role.

[Sonthonax]

Actually:

Hedouville

If he claims Survivor there is no reason not to vote him. I don't believe this claim one bit anyway.

[Charles Leclerc]

I don't believe that knid of claim either. I also considered that his night chat role claim could be also a fake. I think each of us practically nearly allowed one big fish to slip away. He was still orange in my list before, but now he is clearly red. Maybe he was converted by cult, or (what I believe more) he is already a cult leader.

Hedouville

[Alexandre Petion]

Alright fellas, I know Hedouville is a very suspicious person and it's good you all think that. I want to hear more from him too, but I will now disclose my results from last night.

I watched Toussant last night and Peineir visited him. If Toussant is in fact cult, Penier would be the Cult Leader since Toussant had valid results Day 2. It's true that Penier could be a protective town role on Toussant since he's the investigator, but I don't see a town PR claiming citizen. That's a bad move all the way around. This leaves him either as a mason baiting cult or a Cult Leader hiding among the citizen claimers.

I was waiting on feedback from Toussant to help me determine if he was the witch hunter or not, but I don't want to see any more time wasted because I'm sitting on my hands.

Peinier

[Charles Leclerc]

Peinier? We though that Galbaud and Peinier were masons together because of the manner they adressed each other. But now that Port-au-Prince claimed himself...

Penier, what is you role? Citizens don't visit people for nothing, ya know.

[Alexandre Petion]

Peinier? We though that Galbaud and Peinier were masons together because of the manner they adressed each other. But now that Port-au-Prince claimed himself...

Penier, what is you role? Citizens don't visit people for nothing, ya know.

If he claims mason and lies, the real ones will tear him up.
If he claims mason and it's legit, he will be cleared and so will Toussant from being cult. (Unless he was converted Night 1)

If he claims TPR, it would be interesting to see what he would claim. Hard to pull a lie off about that. Also one would have to wonder "Why would a town PR claim citizen? It's asking to be converted by cult."

I look forward to hearing more from Penier, Toussant, and Hedouville.

If this goes according to plan, I would naturally Vote to shoot Toussant.

[Sanite Belaire]

What the hell happened while I was sleeping? I need to make sense of this clusterfuck to see whose role will yield the most/best information. Hang on, making a list of accusations with lynch targets.

[Charles Leclerc]

No, it's better to do the following. Shoot Hedouville with blacksmith gun. The Masons will check Toussant tonight.

You are fine with that decision? If Hedouville is our so-called "survivor" then he should have no problems surviving a shot, isn't he?

[Sanite Belaire]

No, it's better to do the following. Shoot Hedouville with blacksmith gun. The Masons will check Toussant tonight.

You are fine with that decision? If Hedouville is our so-called "survivor" then he should have no problems surviving a shot, isn't he?

Survivors can fuck up the town in the later stages in the game. I don't want to take any chances. Especially since I'd only have my last charge if he's a survivor.

Okay, from what I see, Hedo accuses Touss of being culted.
Hedo also claims to be survivor with some information
Charles claims to have been mind melded 3 times with Hedo and Touss (wtf, same 3, every time?)
Charles also claims that Hedo claimed a different role in the MM chat
Charles also says that Hedo begged Touss to not check his role on night 1
Touss claims that Alex is a part of the Voodoo Apprentice(Investigator, Lookout,Detective, Journalist), Investigator, Lookout, Detective, Journalist, Corrupt Journalist investigative pairing
Alex claims lookout
Alex claims that Port visited Hedo on night 1
Alex claims that Peinier visited Touss on night 3
Port claimed charm maker who visited Hedo night 1 (before Alex said who it was)
I claimed that my student was given a charm

I think that we need to lynch Peinier. His role gives us a lot to work with. If he's a cult leader, then I can have my student shoot Touss. If he's a cult leader, then Alex is confirmed to be lookout. Hedo would then be given some benefit of the doubt (for thinking that Touss is cult). If Peinier is indeed a citizen, then Alex is not likely to be trusted again (cult can fuck up feedbacks). Hedo is given nothing but suspicion.

If Peinier is some other role, then Alex is probably a lookout. I might have my student shoot someone (depending on the role). Hedo is given nothing.

I say we lynch Peinier.

Peinier

[Alexandre Petion]

No, it's better to do the following. Shoot Hedouville with blacksmith gun. The Masons will check Toussant tonight.

You are fine with that decision? If Hedouville is our so-called "survivor" then he should have no problems surviving a shot, isn't he?

That's right, we do have a witch hunter. (according to prince)
Idk if I would shoot hedouville just quite yet though. I would like to see some more information before I agree with shooting him, but it will yield information either way for now.

[Charles Leclerc]

I also have some complaints to Catherine. Now that I revealed myself as the third person, I want to ask her personally:

Why the hell you would put 3 people together 3 nights in a row? I tried to tell you back in Day 2 to meld one of us with someone else. Instead, you keep binding three of us together and we are not getting too much information in return.

Catherine please please explain why you were doing that up till now. Was that because you trusted that Hedouville? Explain us your reasons.

[Sanite Belaire]

I also have some complaints to Catherine. Now that I revealed myself as the third person, I want to ask her personally:

Why the hell you would put 3 people together 3 nights in a row? I tried to tell you back in Day 2 to meld one of us with someone else. Instead, you keep binding three of us together and we are not getting too much information in return.

Catherine please please explain why you were doing that up till now. Was that because you trusted that Hedouville? Explain us your reasons.

I too, am interested. It is a very stupid idea.

[Alexandre Petion]

If someone new was brought into the mind meld chat, would they be able to see all previous nights of discussions and their content?

[Mackandal]

I am awake. Catching up now.

No feedback.

[Mackandal]

Peinier

Now this is a story, all about how my life got turned right upside down.
(Translation) I like his plan.

[Capois LaMort]

Bonjour, mes amis. For today, I have yet to look over all of your posts, but I am afraid that you may have to wai until tomorrow. There are some events I am attending in real life, so I will be busy for quite a while.

[Mackandal]

Goodbye then.

[Catherine Flon]

If I've read correctly Hedouville claimed Escort before. Someone mentioned it before. Is that correct?

I did.


@ Charles Leclerc

You requested to be in night chat day 2, do not blame me.

I chose you three because of one reason: None of you would claim a role other than Tpr.

And three of you have either brain or ability to check each other's lie.

I guess today is the breaking point of your melding buddyship then.

Three nights are good long enough.

All I have to do as the hidden mind melder is to observe your behave.

Sonthonax was read as non town by both oge and baissou.

Sonthonax wants to hang a SURVIVOR during this period, guess who is helped by that? Cultist.

I would not lynch Hedoville because simple, he is not a Cultist LEADER.

These two days, we should focus on find a CULTIST LEADER.

Charles Leclerc did not reveal his role, and I would not suggest anyone sheep his vote like Sonthonax.

Lynching a SURVIVOR claimer helps nothing.

[Hedouville]

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Charles Leclerc