M-FM XX Voodoo Gamethread

[Anacona]

Ehh. If you want a reads list from me, you'll have to wait until more people die.

Also, I have been ignoring each and every one of Hedouville's posts. I cbf to have to click on the show img button everytime.
Is there a reason people think he's Town other than that he's too annoying to be scum?

My opinion: Anacona is a scum
Anacona

This seems like an attempt to push pressure away from yourself onto me nigga...


Mackandal

Ehh I can understand this since some nigga was asking permission to vote, which is bull shit.

But after actually reading Baissou, I regret having sheeped the vote on this nigga...

Unfortunately we have no time to lynch anyone else from what I can tell, and who knows what might come of this...

[Sanite Belaire]

Baiss now has this last 20 minutes to try and sway one of the non-voters to not hammer him. I wonder if that will happen.

[Catherine Flon]

This seems like an attempt to push pressure away from yourself onto me nigga...



Ehh I can understand this since some nigga was asking permission to vote, which is bull shit.

But after actually reading Baissou, I regret having sheeped the vote on this nigga...

Unfortunately we have no time to lynch anyone else from what I can tell, and who knows what might come of this...

You are one of the person I read as not seriously trying to lynch Baissou, but I hope you hold your vote right now and let those who absent come to hammer.

Such as Bounkman, Alex Petion etc. Those one should take the pressure of this final vote rahter than you. I just hope Peinier, Galbaud,Rochambeau will not jump in ....


However, if Hedo withdraw his vote, I suggest we all do the same.

[Rochambeau]

You are one of the person I read as not seriously trying to lynch Baissou, but I hope you hold your vote right now and let those who absent come to hammer.

Such as Bounkman, Alex Petion etc. Those one should take the pressure of this final vote rahter than you. I just hope Peinier, Galbaud,Rochambeau will not jump in ....


However, if Hedo withdraw his vote, I suggest we all do the same.

so you don't want me to hammer?

[Sanite Belaire]

so you don't want me to hammer?

Eh. It's getting really late in the day. Why do you think Baiss is scum, if you do?

[Catherine Flon]

so you don't want me to hammer?

I sense that you waited long for this hammer, but I want to take this opportunity and watch actions from other players. I think you and peinier were both waiting to hammer though none of you voted baissou.

However, if you feel necessary, the choice is always in your hand.

[Alexandre Petion]

Catherine, I wouldn't mind a lynch. It yields information so that's always a plus.

He didn't come with a very heavy defense so I don't think he would flip town PR.

[Rochambeau]

Eh. It's getting really late in the day. Why do you think Baiss is scum, if you do?

welp he no claim role. also, i think its wise to get a lynch in every day in a cult game.

[Rochambeau]

I sense that you waited long for this hammer, but I want to take this opportunity and watch actions from other players. I think you and peinier were both waiting to hammer though none of you voted baissou.

However, if you feel necessary, the choice is always in your hand.

i didnt vote because he had enough pressure, i was waiting for him to claim. But that never came. I wasn't waiting for a hammer, whats the purpose in that..

[Sanite Belaire]

If we lynch today, we need to lynch now.

[Catherine Flon]

Catherine, I wouldn't mind a lynch. It yields information so that's always a plus.

He didn't come with a very heavy defense so I don't think he would flip town PR.

Then problem is that I do not think you will hammer.

When a brilliant player choose not to participate a critical vote that means something.

At the same time,

I think you are really good at avoiding critical choices and you might just sit and watch others hammer while you claim this lynch is good.

I believe you will make a good choice for us all, thus I hope you will hammer and I can be more confident tonight and sleep well.

[Catherine Flon]

i didnt vote because he had enough pressure, i was waiting for him to claim. But that never came. I wasn't waiting for a hammer, whats the purpose in that..

You will have to hammer if I didn't excuse you from doing so. Do you agree?

You argued with Sanite Belaire, putting yourself strongly as a pro-town.

[Alexandre Petion]

@Catherine how could I not hammer after all you said? Lol.

Baissou: Not as active as hoped, no claim, lack of contribution.
Life beneficial to town? Not proven.

3 minutes left.

[Catherine Flon]

@Catherine how could I not hammer after all you said? Lol.

Baissou: Not as active as hoped, no claim, lack of contribution.
Life beneficial to town? Not proven.

3 minutes left.

That is correct. I am waiting.

[Rochambeau]

baissou imm not taking the chance at no lynch

[The Godfather]

Baissou has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Baissou ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/11311') (11 [L-0]): Napoleon Bonaparte ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=393617'), Rochambeau ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=393787'), Port-au-Prince ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=393658'), Sonthonax ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=393680'), Sanite Belaire ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=393769'), Hedouville ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=393600'), Catherine Flon ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=393771'), Vincent Oge ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=393596'), Toussant L'Ouverturer ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=393611'), Anacona ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=393619'), Mackandal ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=393668')
Toussant L'Ouverturer ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/11327') (2 [L-9]): Peinier ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=393413'), Galbaud ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=393430')
Mackandal ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/11320') (1 [L-10]): Baissou ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=393667')

[The Jester King]

Day 2 is over and Baissou was lynched. His role was Citizen

Baissou left a last will

Monkadral or whoever I voted is scum.
Sonthadix or whoever voted me is scum.

Snapchat + College Apps all day

Fucking pressure made it sure that I will never be converted to Masons


Night 2 end at this time (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=november+5+2013+9%3A00+PM+EST)

Reminder: Night are 48 hours long instead of 24 hours. All night actions must be submitted by 2 hours before night end. Have a nice sleep.

Georges Biassou was an early leader of the 1791 slave rising in Saint-Domingue that began the Haïtian Revolution. With Jean François Papillion and Jeannot, he was prophesied by the vodou priest, Dutty Boukman, to lead the revolution. Like some other slave leaders, he fought with the Spanish royalists against the French Revolutionary authorities in colonial Haïti.

The people suspected him to be an Vodou cultist. They were questioning him. He was put in trials. He refused to explain who he was. The majority did not trust him. With eleven people against him, he was sentenced to death. A proud man he was, he did not try to fight or escape. He did not shed a tear, not even until the last minute of his life. He bend down over the guillotine and said his last words. Rochambeau pulled the lever and Baissou was no more.

[The Jester King]

Day 3 has begun!

Nobody was killed last night!

Day 3 end at this time (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=november+7+2013+9%3A00+PM+EST)

With 19 people alive, it takes 10


It is an another day. It is dark and the cloud are gray. There is a lot of winds and rains. Ravens and vultures are flying around. Everyone steps outside, feeling gloomy and they checked everything and it seems like nobody was killed last night. The people knew something bad was coming, but they do not know what.


Players List
Alexandre Petion
Anacona
Baissou
Boukman
Capois LaMort
Catherine Flon
Charles Leclerc
Galbaud
Hedouville
Jean Jacques Dessalines
Laveaux
Mackandal
Napoleon Bonaparte
Peinier
Port-au-Prince
Rochambeau
Sanite Belaire
Sonthonax
Toussant L'Ouverturer
Vincent Oge



Role List
Louisana Cult Leader
Haitian Cult Leader
Hidden Mason
Hidden Mason
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Hidden Neutral Killer
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Any

Not crossed off:
Louisana Soul Swapper

Graveyard
Baissou - Citizen - beheaded by angry mobs on Day 2
Vincent Oge - Citizen - escaped from the angry mobs but died of dehydration and exposure in a quicksand on Day 3
Peinier - Louisana Soul Swapper - lynched on Day 4

[Alexandre Petion]

I was role-blocked.

[Anacona]

Sup my niggas. Nothin happened to me last night.

At least nuthin that I got feedback for...

[Mackandal]

Nothing happened to me sadly (Yay?).

[Mackandal]

So by now at least 4 people possible to be recruited by cults.

[Anacona]

Anyone get recruited by the Masons, or not?

[Anacona]

So by now at least 4 people possible to be recruited by cults.

Dayum nigga. You know basic math...

[Anacona]

Dayum nigga. You know basic math...

Actually, you meant "at most" not "at least"

[Mackandal]

Actually, you meant "at most" not "at least"

Thanks for the correction.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Well I think this is interesting information indeed.

[Anacona]

Well I think this is interesting information indeed.

I'm going to assume you got feedback of some sort?

[Mackandal]

I'm going to assume you got feedback of some sort?

This

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

I'm going to assume you got feedback of some sort?

Yes it is not what I expected. This is all I will say for now.

[Alexandre Petion]

Yes it is not what I expected. This is all I will say for now.

CCcchhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[Hedouville]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/ErrorMessage_zpse27ce95e.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/ErrorMessage_zpse27ce95e.png.html)

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

I am going to bed again in 5 minutes. Is there any question for me before then?

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

CCcchhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiii

What does this mean?

[Hedouville]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/45_zpsc9039763.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/45_zpsc9039763.png.html)

Mackandal

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Hedouville was melded again? Is there anything from the mind meld chat that you want to tell us?

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Mackandal

I too am interested to see what he has to say.

[Capois LaMort]

Bon après-midi! Nothing happened to me over the night. From the circumstances, it seems that the town will quickly lose. Since two are converted per night, we need any leads that anyone may have.

[Hedouville]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/46_zps59c9cf9a.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/46_zps59c9cf9a.png.html)

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/47_zps12537f96.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/47_zps12537f96.png.html)

[Catherine Flon]

Toussant, you find a TPR.

Is it one of a role which takes action every Night.

I put my vote to mark one lurk, I might support Mackandal later if lack votes.

Boukman

My night was a same night as before.

[Capois LaMort]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/46_zps59c9cf9a.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/46_zps59c9cf9a.png.html)

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/47_zps12537f96.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/47_zps12537f96.png.html)

Did you receive any leads on anyone possibly being a Cult role?

[Hedouville]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/49_zps895884d5.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/49_zps895884d5.png.html)

[Catherine Flon]

Baissou's trail was a sad truth.

I suggest every town member acts more like a town, at least a little bit more than scums.

Currently we do not lack hammers, acting scum is same as suicide.

I will be back in a few hours.

[Hedouville]

Toussant, you find a TPR.

Is it one of a role which takes action every Night.


http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/50_zps7e0ac4ff.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/50_zps7e0ac4ff.png.html)

[Hedouville]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/51_zps3fab53a5.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/51_zps3fab53a5.png.html)

[Mackandal]

I have nothing to say.

I'm a citizen with no feedback.

[Mackandal]

Laveaux

I want this guy pressured.

[Alexandre Petion]

I have nothing to say.

I'm a citizen with no feedback.

*blinks* You want to claim citizen?

@Touss: It mean's "stare"

[Alexandre Petion]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/46_zps59c9cf9a.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/46_zps59c9cf9a.png.html)

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/47_zps12537f96.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/47_zps12537f96.png.html)

You realize cult wouldn't have a night chat on night 1 right? Converted cults don't get access to the night chat until the following night, fyi.

[Mackandal]

I already claimed citizen first day. >.>

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Toussant, you find a TPR.

Is it one of a role which takes action every Night.

I put my vote to mark one lurk, I might support Mackandal later if lack votes.

Boukman

My night was a same night as before.
Nothing happened to me last night, but I do agree with Boukman. My last willl states that I feel he is hiding among the majority of the players. I'll place a vote after more people check in

[Hedouville]

Sorry for being fat, lazy and inactive.

Feedback for the night: None

Should I vote Baissou?


I didn't read day chat.

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[Alexandre Petion]

I already claimed citizen first day. >.>

That's besides the point. In light of recent events, I expected another claim from you or a different defense.

[Mackandal]

I was busy dealing with friendos IRL.

[Sanite Belaire]

I was bus driven last night.

[Vincent Oge]

Nothing happened to me afaik.

[Sanite Belaire]

So by now at least 4 people possible to be recruited by cults.

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, I guess. Cult leaders have to wait a night after a conversion before trying to convert.


Bon après-midi! Nothing happened to me over the night. From the circumstances, it seems that the town will quickly lose. Since two are converted per night, we need any leads that anyone may have.

You too, cannot read the rolecard of the cult leader?


Cult Leader


Choose a player to convert OR Send a cultist to kill.

Notes

Max Cult Size 4
1 Night between successful conversion (No kill either)
Has one autovest.
Conversions cannot be delegated.
Cult may kill without you.

That means that there are at most 4 cultists. It's likely that there are 4 but also possible that there are fewer. Don't let Mack and Capois get your paranoia too hyped up. Paranoia is good. Too much can easily be very bad.

[Alexandre Petion]

That means that there are at most 4 cultists. It's likely that there are 4 but also possible that there are fewer. Don't let Mack and Capois get your paranoia too hyped up. Paranoia is good. Too much can easily be very bad.

2 Cultists*
2 Cult Leaders*

[Sanite Belaire]

2 Cultists*
2 Cult Leaders*

You are technically correct but nitpicking and not really contributing.

[Capois LaMort]

I had read the prior post, and did not think to check it with what had been written in the set up.

[Sanite Belaire]

I had read the prior post, and did not think to check it with what had been written in the set up.

Noted. Either you are too trusting in others or you are lying. Both are bad. Minimize this by checking facts for yourself if you're too trusting. If you're lying, fess up.

[Alexandre Petion]

You are technically correct but nitpicking and not really contributing.

Most people skim and haven't been paying attention to role cards. Little details matter :)

[Sanite Belaire]

Most people skim and haven't been paying attention to role cards. Little details matter :)

True.

Could you put your reads on Lave, Sontho, Rocha, Cath, and Galba, please?

[Port-au-Prince]

alright i have a few things to say. no one reporting a dousing today would make me think at this point that the neutral killer is either afk or was roleblocked on one of the nights. all things considered i would go with the latter since i think the hosts wouldve replaced an afk kpn. considering alexandre and sonthonax have both reported being roleblocked i would speculate that one of them could be a neutral killer although i dont have much else to back up that speculation. of the two i would guess alexandre but again that is mere speculation. now that weve reached day three the cults can convert again tonight so if we want to strike a cult leader this would be the optimal time. although i am not onehundred percent confident i feel like at least one cult leader must be hiding among the semi afks or inactives so that would be a good place to start.

[Alexandre Petion]

alright i have a few things to say. no one reporting a dousing today would make me think at this point that the neutral killer is either afk or was roleblocked on one of the nights. all things considered i would go with the latter since i think the hosts wouldve replaced an afk kpn. considering alexandre and sonthonax have both reported being roleblocked i would speculate that one of them could be a neutral killer although i dont have much else to back up that speculation. of the two i would guess alexandre but again that is mere speculation.

Your logic needs more work.

@Belaire: Maybe later

[Port-au-Prince]

mackandal hasnt really caught my attention much this game nor do i see him as a strong town player. all that being said if toussant has some key feedback that i dont know about then i would agree with the mackandal pressure. still i would prefer that on day three we could have some public role related feedback that might help shed some light on the situation. although neutral kills arent good by any means they at least shed some light on the game situation by revealing the alignment of the dead player and without those we dont have much to go off of. now having said that i again think that mackandal pressure is one of the more productive things to be doing right now so

Mackandal

[Port-au-Prince]

Your logic needs more work.

@Belaire: Maybe later

to that i would ask two things. one i would ask exactly what about my logic needs work and why should i believe you since it is detrimental to you. secondly i would ask what your explanation for the missing neutral killer is.

[Alexandre Petion]

to that i would ask two things. one i would ask exactly what about my logic needs work and why should i believe you since it is detrimental to you. secondly i would ask what your explanation for the missing neutral killer is.


alright i have a few things to say. no one reporting a dousing today would make me think at this point that the neutral killer is either afk or was roleblocked on one of the nights. all things considered i would go with the latter since i think the hosts wouldve replaced an afk kpn. considering alexandre and sonthonax have both reported being roleblocked i would speculate that one of them could be a neutral killer although i dont have much else to back up that speculation. of the two i would guess alexandre but again that is mere speculation. now that weve reached day three the cults can convert again tonight so if we want to strike a cult leader this would be the optimal time. although i am not onehundred percent confident i feel like at least one cult leader must be hiding among the semi afks or inactives so that would be a good place to start.

1. If there was no dousing report today, that means the neutral killer was either role blocked two nights or chose not to douse/kill. If a serial killer is role-blocked, the escort would die. Keeping this in mind you have to determine if the neutral killer decided to take no action two nights, or was a non-serial killer role that was blocked 1 night and chose to do nothing the next. If you suspect serial killer, that means either one of us targeted an immune role one night and took no action the other night.

This can mean many things:
Sonthonax is non-serial killer RB-ed night 1 and decided to take no action night 2. (Non-SK)
Sonthonax is non-serial killer RB-ed night 1 and took action night 2. (Pending feedback)
I am non-serial killer and decided to take no action night 1. (Non-SK)
Sonthonax took no action night 1, targeted immune night 2. (SK)
I took no action night 2, and targeted immune night 1. (SK)
Or we could be taking no action for two nights.

If you exclude us from the neutral killer role, the neutral killer could have:
Done no action Night 1 and done something Night 2. (Non-SK)
Done no action Night 1 and targeted immune Night 2. (SK)
Done no action Night 1 or Night 2.
Targeted immune Night 1 and took no action Night 2. (SK)
Targeted immune Night 1 and Night 2. (SK)

There are plenty of options to choose from based on what you think the neutral killer is. Feedback from Night 2 should help clear this up a bit.
Your logic was too narrow minded.

There's still a fairly decent chance neither one of us is a killing neutral. (That doesn't mean don't keep an eye on us, but don't just toss us into the fire so quick)

I don't know what you are talking about with believing me or whatever.

2. See #1

[Charles Leclerc]

Greetings again, everyone. Charles Leclerc is at your service.

Something is definintely odd here, we are missing a neutral killer. But this is another time we are hearing the Citizen claim. I'm so tired of this. However, I do NOT think that Mackandal could be in the cult, because I believe that he clearly didn't read the Cult Leader role card. So I'll believe his claim for now.

I do support Catherine's vote on Boukman, though. I dislike lurkers that do not contribute to us.

Boukman

[Catherine Flon]

I will cut it for short:

1. Role blocked person are not likely Serial Killers.

2. Anyone may or may not be neutral killers.

3. Do not aim to toss Alex or Sonthonax on lynch based on the post #804.


that is mere speculation.

[Port-au-Prince]

1. If there was no dousing report today, that means the neutral killer was either role blocked two nights or chose not to douse/kill. If a serial killer is role-blocked, the escort would die. Keeping this in mind you have to determine if the neutral killer decided to take no action two nights, or was a non-serial killer role that was blocked 1 night and chose to do nothing the next. If you suspect serial killer, that means either one of us targeted an immune role one night and took no action the other night.

This can mean many things:
Sonthonax is non-serial killer RB-ed night 1 and decided to take no action night 2. (Non-SK)
Sonthonax is non-serial killer RB-ed night 1 and took action night 2. (Pending feedback)
I am non-serial killer and decided to take no action night 1. (Non-SK)
Sonthonax took no action night 1, targeted immune night 2. (SK)
I took no action night 2, and targeted immune night 1. (SK)
Or we could be taking no action for two nights.

If you exclude us from the neutral killer role, the neutral killer could have:
Done no action Night 1 and done something Night 2. (Non-SK)
Done no action Night 1 and targeted immune Night 2. (SK)
Done no action Night 1 or Night 2.
Targeted immune Night 1 and took no action Night 2. (SK)
Targeted immune Night 1 and Night 2. (SK)

There are plenty of options to choose from based on what you think the neutral killer is. Feedback from Night 2 should help clear this up a bit.
Your logic was too narrow minded.

There's still a fairly decent chance neither one of us is a killing neutral. (That doesn't mean don't keep an eye on us, but don't just toss us into the fire so quick)

I don't know what you are talking about with believing me or whatever.

2. See #1

the problem is that it might be conceivable that the neutral killer just missed a night. however for a neutral killer to miss two in a row makes me incredibly suspicious and makes me think that the neutral killer unwillingly could take no action on one of the nights. i dont think theres an sk because someone would be dead by now (unless they chose not to kill twice in a row which is incredibly risky for a neutral killer) so im feeling arsonist or joker now with arsonist being more likely and i also think that the arsonist was impeded somehow (roleblocked/busdriver swapped target onto self etc)

[Catherine Flon]

Greeting! Charles Leclerc.

Thanks for pinning Boukman on the voting board.

I would ask you few questions about Mackandal first:

1. Would a citizen claim sufficient to save him from lynch?

2. Should we request a read from Mackandal and then unvote him?

3. What else can we get from Mackandal?

4. Should Mackandal vote even his position is shaking?

Also some questions about cultists:

a. What are the chance for them recruit citizen first?

b. Will a conservative Cultists aim those who has strong town statue players first?

c. Though not much evidences, will you guess what personality those cultists leader are?

And one thing about Baissou:

Z1 You felt something not quite straight during his lynch, when?

Z2 What do you think about Alex Petion and me during Baissous' trial?

Last one about you think of Mind Meld,

M1 Toussant and Hodeville clearly come together today, how much confidence do you have in them?

[Capois LaMort]

Noted. Either you are too trusting in others or you are lying. Both are bad. Minimize this by checking facts for yourself if you're too trusting. If you're lying, fess up.

The situation is more akin to me being fairly busy at the moment and only having time to skim through the posts.


1. If there was no dousing report today, that means the neutral killer was either role blocked two nights or chose not to douse/kill. If a serial killer is role-blocked, the escort would die. Keeping this in mind you have to determine if the neutral killer decided to take no action two nights, or was a non-serial killer role that was blocked 1 night and chose to do nothing the next. If you suspect serial killer, that means either one of us targeted an immune role one night and took no action the other night.

This can mean many things:
Sonthonax is non-serial killer RB-ed night 1 and decided to take no action night 2. (Non-SK)
Sonthonax is non-serial killer RB-ed night 1 and took action night 2. (Pending feedback)
I am non-serial killer and decided to take no action night 1. (Non-SK)
Sonthonax took no action night 1, targeted immune night 2. (SK)
I took no action night 2, and targeted immune night 1. (SK)
Or we could be taking no action for two nights.

If you exclude us from the neutral killer role, the neutral killer could have:
Done no action Night 1 and done something Night 2. (Non-SK)
Done no action Night 1 and targeted immune Night 2. (SK)
Done no action Night 1 or Night 2.
Targeted immune Night 1 and took no action Night 2. (SK)
Targeted immune Night 1 and Night 2. (SK)

There are plenty of options to choose from based on what you think the neutral killer is. Feedback from Night 2 should help clear this up a bit.
Your logic was too narrow minded.

There's still a fairly decent chance neither one of us is a killing neutral. (That doesn't mean don't keep an eye on us, but don't just toss us into the fire so quick)

I don't know what you are talking about with believing me or whatever.

2. See #1

As of now, I believe we should, of course, first check if anyone has been doused. If so, then lynch either Monsieur Pétion or Monsieur Sonthonax. In the case of none being doused, we should not lynch either unless there is conclusive evidence from an investigative that either is truly the Arsonist. However, if there was to be a dousing, I would vote in favor of lynching Monsieur Sonthonax, since Monsieur Pétion has contributed much more.

For now, I will not place a vote upon Monsieur Boukman, for I do not wish to repeat the mistake of another faint-hearted vote.

[Catherine Flon]

I will left Charles Leclerc pin Boukman on the board.

For now, I tend to solve the case of Mackandal first, hopefully in 24 hours.

Mackandal


Q for Mackandal:

1. After the trial of Baissou, do you think a citizen claim from day 1 sufficient to save you the day?

2. If you do not post more read of people or discussion, how much time do you think voters would spend on your case?

3. As a town, we clearly have more than 4 town powers (Toussan, Mind Melder, Escort and the 2 power masons). What strategy would you suggest?

[Hedouville]

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[Catherine Flon]

As to the discussion of neutral killers.

List The Fact:
2 nights without kills.
No leads to neutral killers.
No dousing report.
we do NOT have a jailor.


The guess of neutral killer:
Neutral killer is a role living in tension, alone.
Neutral killer will tend to actively kill the major threat.
Neutral killer has no information by itself.
Cultists will eagerly seeking to kill neutral killer once they feeling strong enough.
It is likely we lack killing roles.

Thus, the neutral killer in fact want let cultist grow a bit and then seek opportunity in between.

I think aim to find neutral killer without actually accusation will only result 'kill time'.

Either we will find neutral killer eventually in some good luck, or cultists might kill him for everyone.

What does everyone think?

Missionary do not come to my house unless you run out of choices.

[Catherine Flon]

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What would you expect from pressure vote Mackandal today?

Do you have some hidden card on Mackandal except the reasons you already list? (you do not have to say it.)

Is there any masons in Mind Meld now?

Will you aim to proceed a lynch today?

Any comment of Baissou?

[Vincent Oge]

If the killer was rbed, it was the first night. I don't believe mackandal's claim but I don't believe he should be pressured.

boukman

[Capois LaMort]

What would you expect from pressure vote Mackandal today?

Do you have some hidden card on Mackandal except the reasons you already list? (you do not have to say it.)

Is there any masons in Mind Meld now?

Will you aim to proceed a lynch today?

Any comment of Baissou?

Certainly, all of the Citizen claims are much less feasible, now that one has been confirmed and since there can only be so many Citizens. However, this does not necessarily mean that Monsieur Mackandal is (one of) the Citizen that has told a lie. He may seem suspicious, since he claimed later on, but this may not be the case. He may just be claiming now since he noticed that many others have already claimed Citizen, and since he is also a Citizen, he may claim as well. It seems much less likely that a Cultist who has been slightly pressured would make another Citizen claim and draw attention to himself, but this may just be WIFOM.

[Hedouville]

What would you expect from pressure vote Mackandal today?

Do you have some hidden card on Mackandal except the reasons you already list? (you do not have to say it.)

Is there any masons in Mind Meld now?

Will you aim to proceed a lynch today?

Any comment of Baissou?

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[Capois LaMort]

If the killer was rbed, it was the first night. I don't believe mackandal's claim but I don't believe he should be pressured.

boukman

I agree, it is much more likely that the Neutral Killer decided not to act after being blocked than the Neutral Killer not acting, then being randomly blocked. This would also support my opinion that if the lack of Killer actions is due to a role blocker, it is not Monsieur Pétion, but Monsieur Sonthonax.

[Hedouville]

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[Hedouville]

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[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

1. If there was no dousing report today, that means the neutral killer was either role blocked two nights or chose not to douse/kill. If a serial killer is role-blocked, the escort would die. Keeping this in mind you have to determine if the neutral killer decided to take no action two nights, or was a non-serial killer role that was blocked 1 night and chose to do nothing the next. If you suspect serial killer, that means either one of us targeted an immune role one night and took no action the other night.

This can mean many things:
Sonthonax is non-serial killer RB-ed night 1 and decided to take no action night 2. (Non-SK)
Sonthonax is non-serial killer RB-ed night 1 and took action night 2. (Pending feedback)
I am non-serial killer and decided to take no action night 1. (Non-SK)
Sonthonax took no action night 1, targeted immune night 2. (SK)
I took no action night 2, and targeted immune night 1. (SK)
Or we could be taking no action for two nights.

If you exclude us from the neutral killer role, the neutral killer could have:
Done no action Night 1 and done something Night 2. (Non-SK)
Done no action Night 1 and targeted immune Night 2. (SK)
Done no action Night 1 or Night 2.
Targeted immune Night 1 and took no action Night 2. (SK)
Targeted immune Night 1 and Night 2. (SK)

There are plenty of options to choose from based on what you think the neutral killer is. Feedback from Night 2 should help clear this up a bit.
Your logic was too narrow minded.

There's still a fairly decent chance neither one of us is a killing neutral. (That doesn't mean don't keep an eye on us, but don't just toss us into the fire so quick)

I don't know what you are talking about with believing me or whatever.

2. See #1

At least the option of you being a neutral killer who decided not to kill N1 is very unlikely that I would discount this possibility altogether. Maybe an investigative role could check Sonthonax tonight if there are no better options.

Do you think there is an escort or a Witch Hunter? I would like to know if Sonothonax and and you are not cultists at least from N1 and N2.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

I am offended that the bus driver decided never to save me at night. I need saving in the upcoming night of course when the cults can convert once again.

[Charles Leclerc]

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I still believe that there are up to 5 possible Citizens. Pluse there are also neutral roles that fall in the same pairing as then.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

A citizen becomes a random cult member if converted. Can someone post a list of all people who claimed citizen? The only cult member in the citizen pairing is the Cult Leader so if an investigator checks a citizen claimer and they are not in the citizen pairing then we know they were recruited.

Do you think an investigator should check citizen claims or the potential neutral killer Sonothonax? Are there other opinions about who the investigator should check?

[Hedouville]

I still believe that there are up to 5 possible Citizens. Pluse there are also neutral roles that fall in the same pairing as then.

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[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

A disciple should claim as soon as possible so they can be mind melded with someone who already was mind melded to tell the masons about our codes. Houdeville indicated that all people who were mind melded with him are trustworthy at least for now.

[Sanite Belaire]

Goddamnit does no one take notes?

Citizen claimers:
Galba
Napoleon
Mack
Peinier

I'm going to look back and see what the likelihood of different scenarios.

[Catherine Flon]

Besides those questions that people didn't answers. T_T

I have to also worry other things:

When people target citizen claimers, it is likely, all citizen claimers will be on the same boats.

If handle unprofessionally, good citizens and bad 'citizens' might eventually huddle together.

Unless citizen claimers agree to search scums among themselves, it will be extremely difficult to do so.


Second problem is press a citizen claimer such as Mackandal, they would be confident enough that other citizen claimers will back themselves up and refuse to give anything other than a citizen claim.

Therefore, I am going to ask, how many citizen claimers here, agree, we should search among citizen claimers first?

[Capois LaMort]

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This is a good idea, but revealing a Mason role, probably a weak one to protect the identity of strong Masons, will concentrate the strength of the roles in the remaining pool of unrevealed roles. This is because revealing the weak roles means that only the strong roles will remain unrevealed. Thus, since the Cult will now probably make a conversion instead of trying to kill the weak Mason, there is a higher probability that the converted role is a strong one.

[Hedouville]

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[Capois LaMort]

Besides those questions that people didn't answers. T_T

I have to also worry other things:

When people target citizen claimers, it is likely, all citizen claimers will be on the same boats.

If handle unprofessionally, good citizens and bad 'citizens' might eventually huddle together.

Unless citizen claimers agree to search scums among themselves, it will be extremely difficult to do so.


Second problem is press a citizen claimer such as Mackandal, they would be confident enough that other citizen claimers will back themselves up and refuse to give anything other than a citizen claim.

Therefore, I am going to ask, how many citizen claimers here, agree, we should search among citizen claimers first?

I agree, but I do not think we should just randomly lynch one, as there is still a high likelihood that a random Citizen lynch really is a Citizen.

[Hedouville]

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[Catherine Flon]

I agree, but I do not think we should just randomly lynch one, as there is still a high likelihood that a random Citizen lynch really is a Citizen.

That is correct, people like baissou really disencourage us.

However, weird enough, baissou never claimed citizen.

If it turns out Boukman flip as citizen too, then we are in trouble.

I trust you Capois, are you brave enough to hammer fellow citizen claimers though?

[Boukman]

Guys we got a Soul swapper, said I passed out and woke up in a strange place last night.

[Sanite Belaire]

Guys we got a Soul swapper, said I passed out and woke up in a strange place last night.

I think you were switched with me. I'm fairly sure that it's a bus driver and not a SS.

[Catherine Flon]

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Neutralkiller is not killing but odds are still there.

I think mason reveal is risky but worth a try.

And you probably didn't understand my point:

If citizen claimers refuse to vote each other, we will lost many votes and eventually fail to press anyone.

You may notice, people like Alex Petion and Capois very likely not participate hammer if no hard evidences.

Excluding those votes, this plan need strong support from citizens.

[Catherine Flon]

Guys we got a Soul swapper, said I passed out and woke up in a strange place last night.

Great, thank god you are here.

Why would a soul swapper swap you though?

[Capois LaMort]

That is correct, people like baissou really disencourage us.

However, weird enough, baissou never claimed citizen.

If it turns out Boukman flip as citizen too, then we are in trouble.

I trust you Capois, are you brave enough to hammer fellow citizen claimers though?

If the time comes and the deed must be done, then done it shall be.


Guys we got a Soul swapper, said I passed out and woke up in a strange place last night.

That feedback could have been from the Bus Driver.

[Boukman]

I think you were switched with me. I'm fairly sure that it's a bus driver and not a SS.

Could be, but with 2 cult groups I'd rather say we have a soul swapper.

[Catherine Flon]

Boukman what is your read of Mackandal (4 [L-6]): , the citizen claimer?

[Sanite Belaire]

Could be, but with 2 cult groups I'd rather say we have a soul swapper.

I'm just saying that I'm pretty sure it's a bus driver. You don't need to believe that he's real but I know he is.

[Hedouville]

Guys we got a Soul swapper, said I passed out and woke up in a strange place last night.

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[Catherine Flon]

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The fact that soul swapper didn't target Toussant. Odd enough?

I rather think it is still a bus driver.

[Charles Leclerc]

Investigative roles can measure the difference between Bus Driver and Soul Swapper, because Bus Driver switches locations, while Soul Swapper switches night actions and feedback.

Are you completely sure that it was Soul Swapper?

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

I think there will be a lot of citizens who will convert to cult power roles once converted. I think that the claimed citizens are more to be trusted than unclaimed ones because an investigator can easily check them to see if they are still in the right pairing.

This is why I do not think we should lynch Mackandal right now. Maybe someone who did not claim is better.

[Hedouville]

I'm just saying that I'm pretty sure it's a bus driver. You don't need to believe that he's real but I know he is.

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[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Hidden Any could be a soul swapper that swapped on the first night of the game.

Please swap me tonight if you are a bus driver so that I can confirm if it is a Soul Swapper or a bus driver.

[Sanite Belaire]

Actions with feedback night 1:
Bus driven - Galba
Roleblocked - Sontho
Mind meld - Hedo/Touss

Actions with feedback night 2:
Bus driven - Sanite
Roleblocked - Alex
Mind meld - Hedo

Notably missing from both nights:
Mason conversion - possibly no missionary?
Arsonist dousing - roleblocked or bus driven to self?
Serial killer attack - healed or blocked by vest?
Joker bounty - roleblocked?

I'm going to get back to the mason conversion issue in a moment. Don't forget it.

Arsonist:
I think that arsonist is the likeliest neutral killer. Considering that all of these possibilities are unlikely, this would explain the lack of feedback in pretty easy to understand steps. An arsonist could see the benefit of dousing a citizen claimer as it could cripple the masons later on in the game. He could have been switched with Galba to accidentally douse himself. This last night would be dedicated to undousing himself, if that can happen. Can an arsonist undouse himself?

That would also explain the lack of a second bus driven claim on day 1.

Serial Killer:
I think it really unlikely that the serial killer would hit someone with a vest twice in a row. It's possible, but unlikely. Someone would have claimed healed if they were attacked. I think. I also don't think he would give up two kills for the mystery aspect of it.

Joker:
This would be interesting. It's also more likely than the serial killer but slightly less likely than the arsonist. Roleblocked on night 1, the joker decides to wait before putting a bounty up in order to put the hunt slightly back but also hold back the number of kills.

We have a lack of positive evidence but some lack of evidence. I don't think we should go lynching based on the lack of evidence just yet. I think we should wait one more day before we start trying to hunt for the would-be killer today.

Masons:
Holy shit this scares me. What if we don't have a missionary? There have been 4 citizen claimers and, so far, none of them claim to have been converted. Was the missionary roleblocked? Is there a missionary? I don't know but the possibility scares me. If a mason claims, with some proof, then it might put me at ease, some.

[Charles Leclerc]

If Toussant would be the target of Soul Swapper, he would not receive his investigation feedback. So Bus Driver would target Toussant'D Overturer, while Soul Swapper would NOT do the same.

So here is my proposition to the one whoever is, or was a Bus Driver. You need to pick Toussant'D Overturer as one of your targets on the next night. If you do not do that, you will be branded as Soul Swapper in my eyes. I already figured out who you might possibly be, so you MUST do as we asked. If you fail to swap Toussant'D Overturer on night 3. I will reveal your name and the reason why I'm sure that you are the possible bus driver.

Note that I found the possible bus driver purely on my deduction alone, it has nothing to do with any night actions or my role. But because it's my deduction, I may be wrong. By my proposal is still in place. So please just do as we asked and you'll be fine.

[Sanite Belaire]

Hidden Any could be a soul swapper that swapped on the first night of the game.

Please swap me tonight if you are a bus driver so that I can confirm if it is a Soul Swapper or a bus driver.

You were swapped on night 1? Shit I must have missed that. Fuck me, that invalidates my arsonist theory, unless you're the arsonist. I haven't seen any evidence to you being town except for some vague hand wavings and trust from others. I just don't know.

[Catherine Flon]

Boukman went lurking again? :mad:

Also, Boukman, are you a town power?

@ Sanite Belaire, thanks for the organization, great work.

I do not quite accept that Arsonist doused himself and have to undouse during night 2.

If I were arsonist, I will keep dousing, in case I am in danger I will incinerated and max the damage done.

@ Charles Leclerc

I rather think a soulswapper might still target Toussant even doing so will reveal its own existence.

The advantages are three:
1. information get
2. cut off information for town
3. cut off information in mind meld
4. if there is also a real busdriver, there are some thing easy to mess up with.

[Sanite Belaire]

Boukman went lurking again? :mad:

Also, Boukman, are you a town power?

@ Sanite Belaire, thanks for the organization, great work.

I do not quite accept that Arsonist doused himself and have to undouse during night 2.

If I were arsonist, I will keep dousing, in case I am in danger I will incinerated and max the damage done.

@ Charles Leclerc

I rather think a soulswapper might still target Toussant even doing so will reveal its own existence.

The advantages are three:
1. information get
2. cut off information for town
3. cut off information in mind meld
4. if there is also a real busdriver, there are some thing easy to mess up with.

I don't accept the arson theory either, now that Touss claimed driven/soul swapped night 1. Now I'm thinking that it's likely that there's a joker.

Actions with feedback night 1:
Bus driven - Galba/Touss
Roleblocked - Sontho
Mind meld - Hedo/Touss/?

Actions with feedback night 2:
Bus driven - Sanite/Bouk
Roleblocked - Alex
Mind meld - Hedo/?/?

Revised*

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

You were swapped on night 1? Shit I must have missed that. Fuck me, that invalidates my arsonist theory, unless you're the arsonist. I haven't seen any evidence to you being town except for some vague hand wavings and trust from others. I just don't know.

What I never claimed that I was swapped.

[Catherine Flon]

What I never claimed that I was swapped.

He didnt say you claimed, be easy.


I think boukman should speak more.

A feedback is merely a defence at this point of game.

[Hedouville]

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Boukman

[Catherine Flon]

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Boukman


And that indicate I should go back to my original target.

Mak's defence was not nice enough, just keep it in mind.


Boukman

[Sanite Belaire]

What I never claimed that I was swapped.

Shit I misread the....

Hidden Any could be a soul swapper that swapped on the first night of the game.


...As "SS that swapped me on the first night"

Crossed out my shame.

That first bus drive/soul swap is a mystery. Hmm

[Hedouville]

Can Arsonist undouse themselves?

Yes.

Can Serial Killers kill multiple roleblockers?

No.

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[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

If there is a NK who chooses not to act let me think why.

If it is a Joker maybe he wants us to think there is no joker so he can make a sheriff false claim or even a ghost claim but stay free of suspicion as NK.

If it is an arsonist maybe he wants us to think there is no arsonist so he can make a doctor or bodyguard or even a jester fake claim.

But as long as the NK is not hostile toward us I do not think it matters what the role is and we should try to focus on the threat of the cult first.

[Sanite Belaire]

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Ok that's enough of my head messing with me I need some sleep. Good night.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Boukman

He is not a citizen claim so I think he is a better vote than Mackandal.

[Catherine Flon]

Boukman

He is not a citizen claim so I think he is a better vote than Mackandal.

Note that if we keep press non-citizens, citizen claimers will make us head blown in later game, because their investigative pairing and potential behind.

[Vincent Oge]

Anyone notice how for the past 2 days, Paladin Galba has been lurking? I suspect he might be compromised.

[The Jester King]

Can Arsonist undouse themselves?

Yes.

Can Serial Killers kill multiple roleblockers?

No.

:)

[Laveaux]

Let's start the day with a question, however a lead it is not. For what have happened me for the two nights, nothing at all. The previous day I were quite busy but I'm returning to active. The Escort should continue to block around in hope of preventing scum from acting, while searching for a possible Serial Killer that's hiding. What I've noticed is that all neutral killers are vulnerable, so we must rule out certain possibilities.

Can the following be healed? :
Arsonist burn.
Joker's dual attack.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Boukman
thanks for posting the list of feedbacks, helped cause I don't have time to read until a few hrs from now. Will check back in about an hour to read and comment :9

[Sonthonax]

I'm still ~100 posts behind, but I'd like to answer one issue.

Checking me or Alex is pointless. Let's ignore the fact that I am not a neutral killing, despite having Mr. 47 as my avatar.

a) There is no sign of Neutral Killer's presence. Let's wait for something to happen and then Investigator can decide what to do. If we see that we have SK here, that automatically clears all roleblocked people.

b) Right now reducing Cult numbers is way more important than hunting evil neutral who doesn't kill.

[Sonthonax]

Also: nothing happened to me tonight.

[Alexandre Petion]

Prot-prince, where is your night feedback? Did I just miss it or did you never claim anything?

@Charles ^



Citizen Count: I expect 5-6 citizens to be present.

@Boukman: Please hang around :)

Boukman


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I really wish I could compare yours to mine.

[Sonthonax]

Boukman is a lurker and the only thing I remember about him is his #216 for giving us very obvious statements.

The thing is Cult usually converts strong Town reads and all we do is pressure lurkers and scummy looking folks. I'm pretty sure at least one of the Catherine-Charles-Hedouville trio is Cult by now. Hedouville doesn't look like a good target, but others seem quite tasty. And after d1 all they only pressured lurkers.

Question for Catherine, Charles & Hedouville - What do you think, what is Boukman's role? Why do you think that?

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Guys we got a Soul swapper, said I passed out and woke up in a strange place last night.

I always find scum does things like this. eg:
>Mafia gets roleblocked
>"There must be a Consort, cause I am distancing myself from Mafia!"

Your situation:
>Get bussed
>"There must be a Soul Swapper, cause i'm distancing myself from Cult!"


Hidden Any could be a soul swapper that swapped on the first night of the game.

Please swap me tonight if you are a bus driver so that I can confirm if it is a Soul Swapper or a bus driver.

No, it can't. If you're going to glance at the setup, you may as well read the whole thing:

Hidden Any: Citizen, Escort, Sheriff, Investigator, Lookout, Detective, Doctor, Bodyguard, Busdriver, Charm Maker, Witch Hunter, Preacher, Missionary, Disciple, Vigilante, Jailor, Veteran, Blacksmith, Mind Melder(Architect), Journalist, Arsonist, Joker, Serial killer , Amnesiac, Executioner, Survivor, Jester, Ghost, Student, Corrupt Journalist

No Soul Swapper on that list.

[Alexandre Petion]

Prot-prince, where is your night feedback? Did I just miss it or did you never claim anything?

@Charles ^


@Toussant: ^

[Alexandre Petion]

I always find scum does things like this. eg:
>Mafia gets roleblocked
>"There must be a Consort, cause I am distancing myself from Mafia!"

Your situation:
>Get bussed
>"There must be a Soul Swapper, cause i'm distancing myself from Cult!"



No, it can't. If you're going to glance at the setup, you may as well read the whole thing:

Hidden Any: Citizen, Escort, Sheriff, Investigator, Lookout, Detective, Doctor, Bodyguard, Busdriver, Charm Maker, Witch Hunter, Preacher, Missionary, Disciple, Vigilante, Jailor, Veteran, Blacksmith, Mind Melder(Architect), Journalist, Arsonist, Joker, Serial killer , Amnesiac, Executioner, Survivor, Jester, Ghost, Student, Corrupt Journalist

No Soul Swapper on that list.


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cuUY3SlgzpQ/UcCEWF3q7JI/AAAAAAAAO5Q/kVuJ3LiRt7M/s1600/thumbs-up.jpg

[Charles Leclerc]

Boukman is a lurker and the only thing I remember about him is his #216 for giving us very obvious statements.

The thing is Cult usually converts strong Town reads and all we do is pressure lurkers and scummy looking folks. I'm pretty sure at least one of the Catherine-Charles-Hedouville trio is Cult by now. Hedouville doesn't look like a good target, but others seem quite tasty. And after d1 all they only pressured lurkers.

Question for Catherine, Charles & Hedouville - What do you think, what is Boukman's role? Why do you think that?

To be honest, I have no idea about Boukman's role. But I highly doubt that he is a Town PR because of his lurking and no contribution. I'm following Catherine's suggestion, because Citizen claimers can be checked by Missionary (if we have one).

I do suspect Hedouville myself a little, though - he is still orange on my list, and I can't understand him very well because of those pictures. I believe that Catherine is town right now - her behavior has not changed at all ever since the beginning of the game.

[Rochambeau]

to the person sending out vests, there has been no nightly kills, and the vest only prevents kills, please start sending guns and stop wasting your charges! Thanks!

[Alexandre Petion]

to the person sending out vests, there has been no nightly kills, and the vest only prevents kills, please start sending guns and stop wasting your charges! Thanks!

Well this is quite interesting. If this is true I think we have 4 citizens left.

[Rochambeau]

Well this is quite interesting. If this is true I think we have 4 citizens left.

why do you think this?

[Alexandre Petion]

why do you think this?

Because I have compiled a roles list. This means that those 4 who claimed citizens are either lying as citizens, or the only 4 we have left. (According to my theory)

[Charles Leclerc]

Because I have compiled a roles list. This means that those 4 who claimed citizens are either lying as citizens, or the only 4 we have left. (According to my theory)

Would you kindly present this role list to us, if you please?

[Alexandre Petion]

Would you kindly present this role list to us, if you please?

You all should have a roles list similar to mine already. If you fill in the blanks on feedback results and account for investigative/protective roles, then your roles list is very similar to mine.

[Rochambeau]

You all should have a roles list similar to mine already. If you fill in the blanks on feedback results and account for investigative/protective roles, then your roles list is very similar to mine.

Well I'm interested in seeing yours!

[Alexandre Petion]

Well I'm interested in seeing yours!

I'm interested in everyone else's as well. Especially yours since you haven't really talked too much.
Would you be so kind as to provide reads and roles list?

[Rochambeau]

I'm interested in everyone else's as well. Especially yours since you haven't really talked too much.
Would you be so kind as to provide reads and roles list?

You should have a roles list/ reads list similar to mine already. If you fill in the blanks on feedback results and account for investigative/protective roles, then your roles list and reads are very similar to mine.

[Alexandre Petion]

You should have a roles list/ reads list similar to mine already. If you fill in the blanks on feedback results and account for investigative/protective roles, then your roles list and reads are very similar to mine.

That's cute coming from a player who has yet to be pro-active in the game.

[The Jester King]

Let's start the day with a question, however a lead it is not. For what have happened me for the two nights, nothing at all. The previous day I were quite busy but I'm returning to active. The Escort should continue to block around in hope of preventing scum from acting, while searching for a possible Serial Killer that's hiding. What I've noticed is that all neutral killers are vulnerable, so we must rule out certain possibilities.

Can the following be healed? :
Arsonist burn.
Joker's dual attack.


Arson ignore healing, Joker does not.

[Port-au-Prince]

no feedback last night nobody loves me ;(

i wasnt saying the neutral killers should be our priority (otherwise id be voting alexandre or sonthonax or something like that) but i dont think that thinking about it could hurt. seeing as the cult will most likely be able to convert again tonight getting a cult leader is definitely ideal today.

[Rochambeau]

That's cute coming from a player who has yet to be pro-active in the game.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljlsttP3Jt1qh17feo1_400.gif

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

No, it can't. If you're going to glance at the setup, you may as well read the whole thing:

Hidden Any: Citizen, Escort, Sheriff, Investigator, Lookout, Detective, Doctor, Bodyguard, Busdriver, Charm Maker, Witch Hunter, Preacher, Missionary, Disciple, Vigilante, Jailor, Veteran, Blacksmith, Mind Melder(Architect), Journalist, Arsonist, Joker, Serial killer , Amnesiac, Executioner, Survivor, Jester, Ghost, Student, Corrupt Journalist

No Soul Swapper on that list.

Ok sorry I missed this.


@Toussant: ^

Ok I did not want to reveal you Alexandre but since you insist to hear it I will say it.

Alexandre Petion is a
Voodoo Apprentice(Investigator, Lookout,Detective, Journalist), Investigator, Lookout, Detective, Journalist, Corrupt Journalist.

[Charles Leclerc]

Actually, I'm quite intrigued to pick up a role list of my own. So I'll just post to you my ideas:

Louisana Cult Leader
Haitian Cult Leader
Missionary
Preacher
Sheriff
Investigator
Mind Melder
Escort
Doctor
Bus Driver
Blacksmith
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Arsonist
Jester
Survivor
Hidden Any - I have no idea about that. However, I believe it's a benigh neutral of some sort.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

I do not think Alexandre is a Journalist or Corrupt Journalist. Alexandre please reveal your information so we can try to lynch a cult leader.

[Alexandre Petion]

Ok sorry I missed this.



Ok I did not want to reveal you Alexandre but since you insist to hear it I will say it.

Alexandre Petion is a
Voodoo Apprentice(Investigator, Lookout,Detective, Journalist), Investigator, Lookout, Detective, Journalist, Corrupt Journalist.

I said feedback, not night results.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Also I could really use protection or items. I have been a revealed town PR since Day 1 yet no items so far.

[Charles Leclerc]

Oh wait a second, you got your result on Alexandre? This changes everything. Either there are 4 Citizens in this game or someone is lying. I'll simply replace one of the Citizens in my list with Detective/Lookout since Alexander is not the journalist from my point of view.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

I said feedback, not night results.

This is my feedback. I was quite surprised to get it.

Now you made me out my role so you should share your information.

[Alexandre Petion]

This is my feedback. I was quite surprised to get it.

Now you made me out my role so you should share your information.

You outed your role Day 1 an Day 2. Now you outed the other investigative role too.


Louisana Cult Leader
Haitian Cult Leader
Hidden Mason
Hidden Mason
Hidden Town Power Bus Driver
Hidden Town Power Mind Melder
Hidden Town Power Lookout [Alex]
Hidden Town Power Escort
Hidden Town
[I]Hidden Town [Town Protective:]
Hidden Town [Citizen?] [Journalist/Vet/Blacksmith?] (now leaning towards blacksmith obv)
Hidden Town [Citizen?]
Hidden Town [Citizen?]
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen [Baissou]
Hidden Neutral Killer
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Any [Likely not a Killer]

Here's a basic one.
Info from night 1: I caught someone visiting someone :)

[Alexandre Petion]

The someone who visited is either cult leader, town protective, blacksmith or mason.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Ok I am going to gamble here.

Vincent Oge

He is Cult Leader, Citizen, Disciple, Survivor, Amnesiac


and he did not claim citizen so I think there is a possibility that he is a Cult Leader.

[Hedouville]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/67_zpsc273fe70.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/67_zpsc273fe70.png.html)

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

The someone who visited is either cult leader, town protective, blacksmith or mason.

I request to be melded with Alexandre and the MD so we could compare information.

[Sanite Belaire]

The someone who visited is either cult leader, town protective, blacksmith or mason.

Who was visited? I think that's enough information to get an idea of the role without giving away who visited your target.

[Alexandre Petion]

Survivor or amnesiac still has a good chance of being here.

What do you guys think about there being a town protective? Highly likely?

As for night actions, Bus Driver swap me with scum and I will watch Toussant for a killer.
If masons would visit him then we can determine the cult as well.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Survivor or amnesiac still has a good chance of being here.

What do you guys think about there being a town protective? Highly likely?

As for night actions, Bus Driver swap me with scum and I will watch Toussant for a killer.
If masons would visit him then we can determine the cult as well.

I do not agree with this. Alexandre wants to kill off the investigator so he is the only remaining town investigative.

I think Alexandre should be force to reveal his information so he is less likely to be converted.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Also if noboody else shares the results and I do not get any guns or items tonight I am not going to share any more information since I have no support here.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Ok I am going to gamble here.

Vincent Oge

He is Cult Leader, Citizen, Disciple, Survivor, Amnesiac


and he did not claim citizen so I think there is a possibility that he is a Cult Leader.

welp
Vincent Oge

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

I think Alexandre should be force to reveal his information so he is less likely to be converted.

I agree.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Survivor or amnesiac still has a good chance of being here.

What do you guys think about there being a town protective? Highly likely?

As for night actions, Bus Driver swap me with scum and I will watch Toussant for a killer.
If masons would visit him then we can determine the cult as well.

So do you say that Vincent Oge is probably a Survivor or Amnesiac? Well then why not pressure him and make him claim a role?

If we get 5 citizen claims then we know there is 1 scum among them all.

If Vincent Oge flips cult leader then Alexandre is his first convert since Alexandre does not want to vote him despite no room on the role list.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

I almost get the feel that Alex is going to be a culted lookout and say that no one visits Toussant while his Cult Leader converts him tonight lol.

[Alexandre Petion]

I do not agree with this. Alexandre wants to kill off the investigator so he is the only remaining town investigative.

I think Alexandre should be force to reveal his information so he is less likely to be converted.

Are you saying that I am a killer ho wants to kill you? Or are you saying that I want a town member to be dead? I want neither.
There is also the chance of a town protective in the game. (Like a doctor)
The fact that I am watching you will also tell me who is the killer.
Either the killer attacks you and risks being revealed, while you still have a chance to be healed, or he won't target you.
That leaves the cult. If the masons target you, then you would be killed as cult. This will keep the cult from going at you.
If I am bus driven, I can't be touched by either.
This also lets me get a chance to peek at who is a mason.


The only downside is that Im likely to not find scum.
Not to mention WIFOM protection.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

If Vincent Oge flips cult leader then Alexandre is his first convert since Alexandre does not want to vote him despite no room on the role list.

Yes, I agree with this, combining it with my last post lol.
Why defend someone and say they're Amnesiac/Survivor? What's the point in taking a risk on keeping someone around if they have the possibility of siding with scum lol

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Yes, I agree with this, combining it with my last post lol.
Why defend someone and say they're Amnesiac/Survivor? What's the point in taking a risk on keeping someone around if they have the possibility of siding with scum lol

or even BEING scum leader? idgi

[Charles Leclerc]

Alexander, if you saw Vincent Oge, them he is definitely a cult leader. But otherwise he is still a good target to check.



Vincent Oge

[Alexandre Petion]

So do you say that Vincent Oge is probably a Survivor or Amnesiac? Well then why not pressure him and make him claim a role?

If we get 5 citizen claims then we know there is 1 scum among them all.

If Vincent Oge flips cult leader then Alexandre is his first convert since Alexandre does not want to vote him despite no room on the role list.

Not really. I never said I didn't support you or the pressure on Oge. Just pointing out that theres still a good chance at that.
Which really was unnecessary now that I think about it.


Who was visited? I think that's enough information to get an idea of the role without giving away who visited your target.

Hedouville was visited Night 1 by someone.
Hedouville is there any information you didn't share night 1 that you would like to share now?

Vincent Oge

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Alexander, if you saw Vincent Oge, them he is definitely a cult leader. But otherwise he is still a good target to check.



Vincent Oge

Can't unvote and vote in the same post.
Vote COunter only takes in account the first vote done in a post.

[Sonthonax]

I really like this. We are pressuring someone active, who looks quite Townie - ideal Cult target.

Vincent Oge

[Hedouville]

to the person sending out vests, there has been no nightly kills, and the vest only prevents kills, please start sending guns and stop wasting your charges! Thanks!

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/68_zps31c950e0.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/68_zps31c950e0.png.html)


no feedback last night nobody loves me ;(

i wasnt saying the neutral killers should be our priority (otherwise id be voting alexandre or sonthonax or something like that) but i dont think that thinking about it could hurt. seeing as the cult will most likely be able to convert again tonight getting a cult leader is definitely ideal today.

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/69_zps031d9e18.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/69_zps031d9e18.png.html)

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Hedouville was visited Night 1 by someone.
Hedouville is there any information you didn't share night 1 that you would like to share now?

N1 I was mind melded. You found the MD.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/68_zps31c950e0.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/68_zps31c950e0.png.html)



http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/69_zps031d9e18.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/69_zps031d9e18.png.html)

fyi, none of your pictures show up on my comp.

[Sanite Belaire]

I'm going to reserve my vote for hammer or getting the train closer to a hammer.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

N1 I was mind melded. You found the MD.

MinD melder is day action though..

Can Mind Melder's action be seen by Lookout/Detective?

[Alexandre Petion]

N1 I was mind melded. You found the MD.

I can't find the Mind Melder.

[Alexandre Petion]

N1 I was mind melded. You found the MD.

Talking as if you were hedouville?

[Charles Leclerc]

Hedouville was visited by someone on Night 1? I remember that Hedouville and Toussant were in the same chat together... You don't think that he was converted by Cult Leader?

[Alexandre Petion]

fyi, none of your pictures show up on my comp.

right click and open in new tab

[Alexandre Petion]

Hedouville was visited by someone on Night 1? I remember that Hedouville and Toussant were in the same chat together... You don't think that he was converted by Cult Leader?

I find it unlikely that Cult Leader would visit Hedouville N1 since he was a player that drew in a lot of attention.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

right click and open in new tab

No, I'm on an intranet which blocks sites like imgur and photobucket

[Rochambeau]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/68_zps31c950e0.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/68_zps31c950e0.png.html)




I can't view this image so use your words.

also
vincent oge

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Talking as if you were hedouville?

Ok I left out a few words.

N1 I was mind melded with Hedouville. Since we are mind melded together you found the MD.

But I guess you can not see the MD so scratch that.

[Hedouville]

Not really. I never said I didn't support you or the pressure on Oge. Just pointing out that theres still a good chance at that.
Which really was unnecessary now that I think about it.



Hedouville was visited Night 1 by someone.
Hedouville is there any information you didn't share night 1 that you would like to share now?

Vincent Oge

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/70_zpsd15807df.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/70_zpsd15807df.png.html)

[Charles Leclerc]

Why my vote is not on Vincent Oge yet? I'll double-check it.

vincent oge

[Sanite Belaire]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/70_zpsd15807df.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/70_zpsd15807df.png.html)

Something to do with the masons?

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

I find it unlikely that Cult Leader would visit Hedouville N1 since he was a player that drew in a lot of attention.

Is the player who visited Hedouville a citizen claimer or Vincent?

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Why my vote is not on Vincent Oge yet? I'll double-check it.

vincent oge

I told you why. You can't have 2 votes in the same post, including unvotes.
If you want to change who you are voting to another person, you don't need to unvote. Just vote the other person and it will change your vote.

[Hedouville]

fyi, none of your pictures show up on my comp.

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/71_zps2c79e1a7.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/71_zps2c79e1a7.png.html)


I can't view this image so use your words.

also
vincent oge

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/68_zps31c950e0.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/68_zps31c950e0.png.html)

[Rochambeau]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/71_zps2c79e1a7.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/71_zps2c79e1a7.png.html)



http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/68_zps31c950e0.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/68_zps31c950e0.png.html)

it sitll doesnt work, can you please just say what you said in the picture.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Alexandre what are your results on N2?

[Hedouville]

it sitll doesnt work, can you please just say what you said in the picture.

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/73_zps2ead4fcb.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/73_zps2ead4fcb.png.html)

[Alexandre Petion]

Alexandre what are your results on N2?

Role-blocked.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

The spoiler says Works Fine See them, I can. Both Times, They work. Double check, I do, Before I even Post

[Laveaux]

vincent oge
I love how we have a sudden train. Looking away for a moment and now there was an additional three to four more pages to read through.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Roch, just ignore him. He doesn't understand that not everyone can view his shit.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

The spoiler says Works Fine See them, I can. Both Times, They work. Double check, I do, Before I even Post

ty :smile:

[Sanite Belaire]

Something to do with the masons?

repeating because I got no response

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Role-blocked.

Oh ok I forgot about that. Do you think it is an escort or the mason role?

There may be more citizen spots after all. I am not sure.

Either way I think we should chance it and go for someone confirmed in the CL pairing.

[Hedouville]

repeating because I got no response

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/ErrorMessage_zps3152807f.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/ErrorMessage_zps3152807f.png.html)

[Sanite Belaire]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/ErrorMessage_zps3152807f.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/ErrorMessage_zps3152807f.png.html)

Your last will can change. Answer yes or no.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Your last will can change. Answer yes or no.

Wow so aggressive. Let me say that if a mason gives me an item I would claim it.

The mason should give me a gun tonight and I will shoot a citizen claim since they are possible cult leaders.

[Sanite Belaire]

Wow so aggressive. Let me say that if a mason gives me an item I would claim it.

The mason should give me a gun tonight and I will shoot a citizen claim since they are possible cult leaders.

DO you want the information or no? Hedo probably got some feedback from the masons but isn't confirming it. Can you be absolutely sure that Hedo's going to be town tomorrow?

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

DO you want the information or no? Hedo probably got some feedback from the masons but isn't confirming it. Can you be absolutely sure that Hedo's going to be town tomorrow?

Hedo said the mason should be on him to prevent conversion so yeah I am pretty sure he would stay as town.

I think the bigger problem is if Alexandre is culted and he learns if the person that visited Hedou is a mason or not because Alexandre will have them killed.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Let's put the mason on Hedou for today and see if Vincent flips CL. If Vincent is CL then Alexandre is most certainly also a cult because of claiming Vincent is a surv/amne.

[Catherine Flon]

Anyone notice how for the past 2 days, Paladin Galba has been lurking? I suspect he might be compromised.

I really do not like what Galba did during the trial of Baissou . He missed the majority part of hammer baissou, hang his votes on other people to excuse himself from participating. Unless he never plan to lynch during day 2.

But hey, boukman is worse than him in all angle.

My Role List - This is Very Relative to my information sources, and it is freshly edited just now:
so if you want, go dig:

Louisana Cult Leader
Haitian Cult Leader

Missionary
Preacher
Town power(also a information source)
Lookout
Investigator
Mind Melder
Escort
Bus Driver
Blacksmith

Citizen-Baissou
Citizen

Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

joker
Jester
Survivor
Ghost



I request to be melded with Alexandre and the MD so we could compare information.

You two both revealed why not just compare right now? Alex is also Roleblocked once. It will be pointless unless you want to swap some people out of mind meld? If so, why?

Plus there were only two nights in total.

We the people out side of MD, such as me, Charles Leclerc and Sanite Belaire(those who obvious are not in MD) also need information sources to vote.

Mason need those information too.

I would focus on Boukman in the first 12 hours. All trial should go case by case, unless solid evidences are pointing out. Oge can easily be the preacher, I do not mind if he reveal as any masons.

My guess on Boukman's role:

Cultist leader/ Blacksmith/ Busdriver/ Ghost / Mason/citizen Baissou Type II
No matter what he is, he must defend or claim citizen (which is extremely not possible).


My guess on Oge:

Busdriver/ Mason(Preacher)/Cultist leader

Can Mind Melder's action be seen by Lookout/Detective?
I always think Mind Melder has no action, right? I think it function as mayor.

Select up to three people during the day to share a night chat.

[Catherine Flon]

Nvm Oge can not be busdriver, otherwise Hedo will report.

[Port-au-Prince]

vincent oge

thats l-2 now watch out

i would again question whether or not there is really a missionary in this game. the way i see it if there was a missionary we wouldve had a disciple otu himself but that hasnt happened yet and i also think that if there was a missionary the other starting mason would be a disciple and i dont think that was the case.

[Port-au-Prince]

also heres a request maybe you should mind meld someone else besides toussant hedo and whoever else

[Catherine Flon]

Lets hope no people will come up for a sudden hammer.

I urge Oge comes up to defend himself fast.


it sitll doesnt work, can you please just say what you said in the picture.

Help to read Hedo pic, day 3:

Swap Some words before and after the comma for a easier straight sentence read.

I.E.(an obvious one): Feedback, he gave to me. -----> He gave feedback to me.

[Catherine Flon]

also heres a request maybe you should mind meld someone else besides toussant hedo and whoever else

So you are the third in MD?

[Charles Leclerc]

If Oge indeed flips cult then Bus Driver should be on Toussant instead of Alexander.

[Catherine Flon]

You know at L2, Oge might be easily hammered by Boukman and Mackandal,

I think one of you should drop the vote so he can be at L3,

Let others such as Anacona, Galbaud a chance to participate.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Nvm Oge can not be busdriver, otherwise Hedo will report.

wat. Investigator found that Oge is Cult Leader/Citizen/Amnesiac/Survivor


Lets hope no people will come up for a sudden hammer.

I urge Oge comes up to defend himself fast.

Help to read Hedo pic, day 3:

Swap Some words before and after the comma for a easier straight sentence read.

I.E.(an obvious one): Feedback, he gave to me. -----> He gave feedback to me.

It's not that it can't be understood what he is saying, the picture just doesn't show up.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Catherine, are you part of the Masons?

[Catherine Flon]

@Napoleon Bonaparte

sorry, I was editing the stupid long post, about 50 Post ago. The patch work went post by post, and my read on oge was shaped dramatically.

Thanks for point out.

I would not tell you if I am mason.

since you are here, do you think we should quick hammer oge?

[Catherine Flon]

Oh, I see my mistake,
I thought we vote oge because Alex said he went to hedo night 1.

actually, we vote oge because Toussant revealed his result on Oge.

so the information is :

Alex : Someone visited Hedo night 1. (probably a preacher)
Toussant : Alex is lookout. Oge is Cultist leader/citizen/Neutral

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

@Napoleon Bonaparte
sorry, I was editing the stupid long post, about 50 Post ago. The patch work went post by post, and my read on oge was shaped dramatically.
Thanks for point out.
I would not tell you if I am mason.
since you are here, do you think we should quick hammer oge?

then stahp acting like one

I don't care if we hammer him early, as long as everyone has checked in and provided feedback from last night. Without deaths, it's hard to figure out any relationships and discover who is trustworthy and who isn't just using day chat; we are going to rely heavily on night actions. I also wouldn't mind if the day lasted all 48 hours as long as we get a lynch off.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Catherine, why do you think there is a Missionary in the game if no one has been converted when we have 3 Citizens outted?

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

I, personally, highly doubt we have a Missionary in the game because the Mason size is not limited. With ~5 Citizens, a possible Mason size of 7 in a 20P game is just OP.

I'm leaning towards Witch Hunter & Preacher.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

I also think that the Witch Hunter is the person roleblocking.

[Catherine Flon]

Catherine, why do you think there is a Missionary in the game if no one has been converted when we have 3 Citizens outted?

There likely to be one, since not enough town killer other than a smith.

The battle between town and cultists always end up with killing roles or stealing conversion.

Mind melder also share pair with missionary.

I do not have solid evidence that there is a missonary, but I think it is very possible.

[Catherine Flon]

I also think that the Witch Hunter is the person roleblocking.

That leaves a slot for citizen claimer. What if oge claim citizen?

[Alexandre Petion]

Let's put the mason on Hedou for today and see if Vincent flips CL. If Vincent is CL then Alexandre is most certainly also a cult because of claiming Vincent is a surv/amne.

That's a poor reason. I will rage so bad if that's why I get lynched.

Catching up now.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

That leaves a slot for citizen claimer. What if oge claim citizen?

I'm more interested in what you would do.
I find you very interesting, to be honest.

You vote with the person everyone is convinced is scum today. Not only that, but you claim that we shouldn't let citizen claimers live because they will be a headache at the end; but, combining that with your certainty that there is a Missionary, wouldn't you want the Citizen claimers to remain alive? That way, they can become confirmed town.

Your thought process has a lot of holes and basically wants us to lynch all Citizen claimers except Oge.

[Sanite Belaire]

That's a poor reason. I will rage so bad if that's why I get lynched.

Catching up now.

It would be a good reason to check you for cult influences. It is an "if" statement and so we can't say anything is for certain.

[The Jester King]

MinD melder is day action though..

Can Mind Melder's action be seen by Lookout/Detective?

Day actions are not trackable.

[Alexandre Petion]

It would be a good reason to check you for cult influences. It is an "if" statement and so we can't say anything is for certain.
I'm fine with checking me. It certainly was a statement that was either full retard or scum. I don't want that to be the only reason for my lynch though.
And since I popped up under suspicion cult would be retarded to convert me now :D it's a win-win.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

Sorry for not checking in earlier. Mold was found in my house and we were displaced for the time being. I will still be active, but maybe not nearly as active as before.

Nothing happened to me last night.

I am very satisfied with today. We got some feedback and claims and I am confident in this lynch decision. I think the potential of an early lynch on a Cult leader will be the most productive thing all game.

Vincent Oge

If this proves correct, Toussant should be bussed and Hedo should be protected from conversion. I beleive Hedo's Last will can stop NK attempts at his life and a bus driver swap will protect Toussant from conversion. This will also mean that a bus driver may write his last will and give us potential cult from the swap later on. Either way, I think both players will be safe tonight.

The masons need a spokesman. I would like a convert if there is one to come out tomorrow to represent the masons as a whole. It will mean low risk and trustable information for the rest of us. It is now D3 and plenty of citizen claims with no deaths, so I would assume that masons cannot recruit tomorrow if we do not have a voice. The feedback and collaboration has been superb today, very satisfying.

[Sanite Belaire]

Someone unvote right now

[Sanite Belaire]

It's l1 you idiot, jean

[Catherine Flon]

I'm more interested in what you would do.
I find you very interesting, to be honest.

You vote with the person everyone is convinced is scum today. Not only that, but you claim that we shouldn't let citizen claimers live because they will be a headache at the end; but, combining that with your certainty that there is a Missionary, wouldn't you want the Citizen claimers to remain alive? That way, they can become confirmed town.

Your thought process has a lot of holes and basically wants us to lynch all Citizen claimers except Oge.

I never said do not lynch oge, nor criticize on the risk, but not now, not an early hammer.

I voted Boukman yesterday, early today, and switch to Mak and then switch back to Boukman.

I am not following anyone but rather solve things case by case and rally voters.

Currently Oge is at L2 I can not switch Oge in order to avoid some scum hammer.

I want to hear oge's defense and that we can dig.

Also I am aim to watch out the vote from Anacona, Galbaud, Mackandal and Boukman.

Discussion is also the key of my role, thus I prefer a longer day than a quick hammer.

[Alexandre Petion]

what

[Sanite Belaire]

There's a reason I'm not using my vote and this is it. I don't want someone to swoop in and hammer before we're ready or get a defense from Vince

[Sanite Belaire]

what

Thank you for unvoting. Jean was an idiot and put Vince right at L-1. That is a very risky place to be. Fuck you, Jean

[Catherine Flon]

Oh no it is L1.

[Alexandre Petion]

There's a reason I'm not using my vote and this is it. I don't want someone to swoop in and hammer before we're ready or get a defense from Vince

That 'what' wasn't for you.

[Sanite Belaire]

That 'what' wasn't for you.

Doesn't hurt to try and explain.

[Alexandre Petion]

Doesn't hurt to try and explain.

Just clarifying.

[Catherine Flon]

I agree with Jean that mason must have a spokeman sooner than later, even though that might also trig the inactive killer.

However, mason speaker should not reveal today because tonight it is a conversion night.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

There's a reason I'm not using my vote and this is it. I don't want someone to swoop in and hammer before we're ready or get a defense from Vince

There was plenty of times yesterday that I suspected Vincent of being anti-town. The investigative list does not show any roles that can account for his behavior, and he provided nothing useful yesterday to account a TPR. If anything, he was reckless with his suspicions and votes. His lynch would show Citizen (very doubtful) or I believe Cult Leader. As I said before, the roles provided show no reason not to do this, but what do you expect to get from Vincent, and what do would you want to see before the decision to lynch?

Also, why is your lighter attitude changed so suddenly at the possibility of Vincent lynched so imminent? Was the witholding of your vote intentional for this exact moment and posts? Vincent Oge was quite active until today, I would have expected him to post by now.

[Alexandre Petion]

There was plenty of times yesterday that I suspected Vincent of being anti-town. The investigative list does not show any roles that can account for his behavior, and he provided nothing useful yesterday to account a TPR. If anything, he was reckless with his suspicions and votes. His lynch would show Citizen (very doubtful) or I believe Cult Leader. As I said before, the roles provided show no reason not to do this, but what do you expect to get from Vincent, and what do would you want to see before the decision to lynch?

Also, why is your lighter attitude changed so suddenly at the possibility of Vincent lynched so imminent? Was the witholding of your vote intentional for this exact moment and posts? Vincent Oge was quite active until today, I would have expected him to post by now.

Calm down. We have 24+ hours of day left. There's no need to rush through the day at all.

[Sanite Belaire]

Jean my "lighter attitude" isn't changed from the possibility of Vince being lynched. It's from the possibility of day ending before the halfway mark. Why do you want the day to end so quickly?