M-FM XX Voodoo Gamethread

[Vincent Oge]

There is many possibilities to what we can do D1. I believe allowing a jailor the first night to get a claim or execute the best, and not mislynching d1 due to odds a plus. Calling someone's idea stupid instead of offering another possibility or at least a alternate way for a jailor to proceed (or someone else for that matter) just reads scummy to me.

Why would you completely side against allowing a TPR to do something the first night? In fact, your statements sound as if the jailor might as well be a citizen.

Why would you want jailor to waste one of his two charges doing what town can already do during the day? Why give scum another night of night actions gambling on the existence of a jailor? Of course the jailor should jail tonight if we don't lynch, but taking lynching off the table altogether is a scummy suggestion.

[Charles Leclerc]

I'm not against pressure on Anacona. Let's force him to talk. I'll post my readings later.

Anacona

[Sonthonax]

Napoleon gets it. No wonder he is such a great leader. +1 for you.

Yes, my "suspect list" was completely randomized, I wanted to get some reactions. And I got one.


I still can't agree with that. I would like you to post your exact reasoning on each of your observations, not because you were a "silent observer".

I understand that you probably suspect me because I wanted to push for a Day 1 lynch. While my point there still stands, it's up to you wherether to push for a lynch or not. There are only about 3-4 actual scum alive - not something that we can find so easily on Day 1. But at least we can try - it's better than trolling the hell of each other.

He is a way too defensive for my taste. After such a shitty FoS he explains his actions and pressures me for explaining my reasoning - quite an overreaction, don't you think? It really smells like a scum who wants to figure out when he did make a slip.

Now, he may be just a scumhunting Townie, but none of his previous posts show any real attempt of this. All he says is "we should do X, don't you agree, guys?". I don't think we should lynch today, but I would like to point that out, hence my vote goes to him.

Charles Leclerc

Also Mackandal doesn't pay much attention.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

Why would you want jailor to waste one of his two charges doing what town can already do during the day? Why give scum another night of night actions gambling on the existence of a jailor? Of course the jailor should jail tonight if we don't lynch, but taking lynching off the table altogether is a scummy suggestion.

Because today all we have is reads, no TPR evidence to support anything. Which leads to "he trolled 3 posts lynch him hurrrrrr" which is fairly idiotic in my opinion. You think the cult or neutral killing is going to troll d1?

Execution is at Jailors discretion. I want him to get claims discreetly and post them when the time arises. It could bolster connections between towns and confirm/damn players very quickly. I want evidence with my reads, and would rather throw N1 to the jailor then lynch the "troll" poster. I have seen some very potent town roles get lynched D1 because of this thinking, and I won't be a part of this.

There is no gamble of the existence of a jailor. It will prove the existence of a jailor to someone, making it a viable claim, and ALL players have their night actions tonight, not just a possible jailor. You seem to be very adamant about a lynch today, and I see your confidence in a lynch as anti-town. The odds are completely against a correct lynch, and you try to push a lynch on someone for very unsubstantial reasoning.

If anyone should be investigated tonight, I would suspect you.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

There is no gamble of the existence of a jailor. It will prove the existence of a jailor to someone, making it a viable claim, and ALL players have their night actions tonight, not just a possible jailor. You seem to be very adamant about a lynch today, and I see your confidence in a lynch as anti-town. The odds are completely against a correct lynch, and you try to push a lynch on someone for very unsubstantial reasoning.

The jailed person will not have their night action tonight. I request not to be jailed but I should be mind melded.

[Vincent Oge]

Because today all we have is reads, no TPR evidence to support anything. Which leads to "he trolled 3 posts lynch him hurrrrrr" which is fairly idiotic in my opinion. You think the cult or neutral killing is going to troll d1?

Execution is at Jailors discretion. I want him to get claims discreetly and post them when the time arises. It could bolster connections between towns and confirm/damn players very quickly. I want evidence with my reads, and would rather throw N1 to the jailor then lynch the "troll" poster. I have seen some very potent town roles get lynched D1 because of this thinking, and I won't be a part of this.

There is no gamble of the existence of a jailor. It will prove the existence of a jailor to someone, making it a viable claim, and ALL players have their night actions tonight, not just a possible jailor. You seem to be very adamant about a lynch today, and I see your confidence in a lynch as anti-town. The odds are completely against a correct lynch, and you try to push a lynch on someone for very unsubstantial reasoning.

If anyone should be investigated tonight, I would suspect you.

Pressure =/= lynch. But by determining from the start that there WON'T be a lynch, there IS NO pressure. If you are such a pro as you seem to think, you would know this.

[Charles Leclerc]

Napoleon gets it. No wonder he is such a great leader. +1 for you.

Yes, my "suspect list" was completely randomized, I wanted to get some reactions. And I got one.



He is a way too defensive for my taste. After such a shitty FoS he explains his actions and pressures me for explaining my reasoning - quite an overreaction, don't you think? It really smells like a scum who wants to figure out when he did make a slip.

Now, he may be just a scumhunting Townie, but none of his previous posts show any real attempt of this. All he says is "we should do X, don't you agree, guys?". I don't think we should lynch today, but I would like to point that out, hence my vote goes to him.

Charles Leclerc

Also Mackandal doesn't pay much attention.

So you admit that your "suspect list" was indeed randomized. What I showed to you was a reaction towards someone who made that list out of nowhere only on his second post. It's only natural that I would have some serious questions pointed towards you. I replied to your post because from my point of view, you were also suspicious to me. And I wanted you to clear my suspicions by posting your exact reasons of your readings on each of those people.

But what you are doing instead of that? Instead of that, you are just throwing your vote off based on my reaction. That does not make any sense to me. Unfortunately for you, my suspicions towards you are not cleared yet. Because you did not fulfill your promise.

You said "I will reveal it later. I still have some observing to do". How you can be town if you are not doing that yet?

[Sonthonax]

So you admit that your "suspect list" was indeed randomized. What I showed to you was a reaction towards someone who made that list out of nowhere only on his second post.


And your reaction was really intriguing. I made some random list in my 2nd post while not giving any explanation and you felt urge to defend yourself? If you were just scumhunting you'd just ask for my reasons - but you came with entire defence, even giving an example of your actions that may look suspicious. You are showing great self-awareness and I think there's a decent chance you are not a Town.


But what you are doing instead of that? Instead of that, you are just throwing your vote off based on my reaction. That does not make any sense to me. Unfortunately for you, my suspicions towards you are not cleared yet. Because you did not fulfill your promise.

Yes, I'm voting you based on your reactions. Do you find it weird? Perhaps I should sheep on Anacona like you?


You said "I will reveal it later. I still have some observing to do". How you can be town if you are not doing that yet?

While I was happy with your reaction I didn't want to reveal my secret just yet. This entire day was used for setup speculation and useless debate (mostly about Hedouville's pictures - great idea to distract people). I posted my list to get the maximum amount of reactions and explaining how it was created would defy that purpose. I revealed my reasoning just as I promised though.

[Peinier]

hello i dont like sonthonax lynching charles since charles is one of my biggest town read atm.

if we dont lynch then if we do have jailor i would suggest you jail toussant because he requested a doc saying he is important and for requesting not to be jailed but instead mind melded in his #255

and i support the Anacona pressure so Anacona

Oh and people stop bitching H-villes pics if you look closely there riddled with infomation

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

Pressure =/= lynch. But by determining from the start that there WON'T be a lynch, there IS NO pressure. If you are such a pro as you seem to think, you would know this.

You are pro-lynch today. With everyone else stating they wish to pressure someone, you state you want them lynched. You are covering your intentions with the sheep votes.

What could you possibly infer from a pressure on day 1? TPR's will hide their true role, as well as cult/Neut killers. We have 3 citizen claims already, but you want more? Why don't we all just reveal our roles for you, I dont think it would matter since you would wish to lynch any of them. Every time you post, instead of discussing the day with me or anyone, you choose to target or disavow someones idea. You have offered nothing but a vote for someone to die, or demoralization of any organization attempts.

Also, thank you for thinking I am pro. Duly noted.

[Peinier]

You are pro-lynch today. With everyone else stating they wish to pressure someone, you state you want them lynched. You are covering your intentions with the sheep votes.

What could you possibly infer from a pressure on day 1? TPR's will hide their true role, as well as cult/Neut killers. We have 3 citizen claims already, but you want more? Why don't we all just reveal our roles for you, I dont think it would matter since you would wish to lynch any of them. Every time you post, instead of discussing the day with me or anyone, you choose to target or disavow someones idea. You have offered nothing but a vote for someone to die, or demoralization of any organization attempts.

Also, thank you for thinking I am pro. Duly noted.

i said something like the top bit of this in my #235 and lynched him he replied with your OMGUS

[Peinier]

5 members are browsering this thread STAHP LURKING

Oh and there may be ghost be wary

[Peinier]

now 3

[Peinier]

now 4

[Peinier]

now back to 5

[Hedouville]

@H-ville.
Stop fucking posting pictures. I haven't opened a single one, so you're not communicating with me at all and I rather you would... It seems like you're just trying to prevent any slip what-so-ever by just posting it in pictures and checking it twice/thrice/frice.

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I'm not against pressure on Anacona. Let's force him to talk. I'll post my readings later.

Anacona

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Oh and people stop bitching H-villes pics if you look closely there riddled with infomation

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[Sonthonax]

now back to 5

Peinier is totally Town, because he writes a lot. We get it. Now, please stop spamming.

Also I'd like to state that I don't like Hedouville's manner of speaking. I usually have no trouble with understanding his messages, but such way of communication is way too troublesome for everyone. Also it's a great way of hiding possible scum slips.

[Hedouville]

Peinier is totally Town, because he writes a lot. We get it. Now, please stop spamming.

Also I'd like to state that I don't like Hedouville's manner of speaking. I usually have no trouble with understanding his messages, but such way of communication is way too troublesome for everyone. Also it's a great way of hiding possible scum slips.

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[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Oh and people stop bitching H-villes pics if you look closely there riddled with infomation

I do not like pictures because I can not see some of them. I think it is unfair for some players to see them and some can not.

Cult should not convert me because I am a bad scum player.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Everyone should post now how they think their behavior will change if they get culted. Be as honest as you can.
Therefore cult will not want to convert players who revealed this information.
All town players should reveal this so they are less likely to be culted.

When I am scum I lurk a lot.

[Hedouville]

Everyone should post now how they think their behavior will change if they get culted. Be as honest as you can.
Therefore cult will not want to convert players who revealed this information.
All town players should reveal this so they are less likely to be culted.

When I am scum I lurk a lot.

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[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

I do not understand the list of Houdeville.

What does the link between behavior and bad reason?
Can you please tl;dr for me?

Please add a ? button on your picture for requesting explanation.

[Vincent Oge]

You are pro-lynch today. With everyone else stating they wish to pressure someone, you state you want them lynched. You are covering your intentions with the sheep votes.

What could you possibly infer from a pressure on day 1? TPR's will hide their true role, as well as cult/Neut killers. We have 3 citizen claims already, but you want more? Why don't we all just reveal our roles for you, I dont think it would matter since you would wish to lynch any of them. Every time you post, instead of discussing the day with me or anyone, you choose to target or disavow someones idea. You have offered nothing but a vote for someone to die, or demoralization of any organization attempts.

Also, thank you for thinking I am pro. Duly noted.

I'm done discussing this with you. You either refuse to understand what I'm saying or are pretending to; either way, it's a dead end. Investigate me if you want to waste a night action. Kill me if you want to feel like an idiot.

[Sonthonax]

My behavior probably won't change much after convertion so you should probably watch me. If I ever claim Citizen feel free to kill me.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Houdeville

Please explain.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Hedouville

[Hedouville]

I do not understand the list of Houdeville.

What does the link between behavior and bad reason?
Can you please tl;dr for me?

Please add a ? button on your picture for requesting explanation.

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[Charles Leclerc]

Alright, even though Sontonax did not bring out his promise, I'll fulfill my own promise and post my current readings on everyone who is present. Don't miss out anything!

Alexandre Petion - Only 2 posts. Posts only in images. Basically he is a much worser poster than Hedouville.
Anacona - Why this guy have not posted more yet? Just simply writing one-liners is not enough to escape our attetion. Something is dfinitely fishy with him.
Baissou - Another low-posters who chooses to keep a low profile for reasons unknows. Worth checking first.
Boukman - Made ony 3 posts, but will probably become more active later. Want not to lynch anyone today. Not sure if it's a town move or not.
Capois LaMort - Started the day with trolling, but went serious later. Definitely a French player. Generally my reads on him are neutral
Catherine Flon - She is one of the more intelligent players here and I really enjoy reading her posts. Definitely a pro-town player right now.
Charles Leclerc - Yeah, that's me alright.
Galbaud - Is he really a Citizen or Brotherhood of Steel Knight? He wants the Missionary to convert him, but I do not believe that directing the Missionary is a pro-town action.
Hedouville - This guy reminds me of character Switch from manga Sket Dance, who only speaks throught synthezised voice in his laptop (call me an otaku if you want). But because of that manner he is impossible to read, even for me. I advice investigative roles to check him to ensure that he is not just fooling with us.
Jean Jacques Dessalines - He contributed a good amount of inforation to us, so he is definetely worthy of being a town player.
Laveaux - He is the literal ebmodiment of Wisdom. Do I need to say anything more? He is a good person.
Mackandal - He is the second player who reacted on Sontonax's list. And made his 2 posts only after seeing his list. Dutifully noted.
Napoleon Bonaparte - I know exactly the hidden meaning behind his picture and I can clearly say one thing: This guy is town. Don't ask me why.
Peinier - Another citizen claimer. Specifically says that he is not jester - "if i was jester i would be much more subtle" Third cit claim in a row, even after Toussant said not to reveal any more claims.
Port-au-Prince - His posts are not bad, but he fell for Hedouville's WIFOM provocation, so chances on him are 50/50.
Rochambeau - The first thing he does is to join the pressure train on Anacona. Apparently chooses to to join our discussion at all. He can't be town in my book right now.
Sanite Belaire - Started to behave rudely towards others at first but then changed his attitide later. But exactly because of that previous attitude I cannot clearly say that he is town.
Sonthonax - His method of scum readings is different from what I've seen so far. Call me overreactive if you want, but I've never seen something like that before. I do want to believe
that he could be town as well, but he needs to contribute to us something better than "random colors"
Toussant L'Ouverturer - The fact that he claimed himself an important role calling for a doctor in his first post leads me to believe that he is not lying. Further more, he wants to ask mind melder for assistance. That is a good move so I'm not going to doubt his good intentions now.
Vincent Oge - You might probably have a different feeling than I do, but I believe that this person is giving off the town vibes. He does the right thing and pressure those who would try to hide and lurk otherwise.

Also, Toussant is right, players can definitely change their behavior after being culted. Any of those green players today could be a cult member tomorrow. Unless Cult Leaders hit masons instead. That's what worrying me in this game, and is the primary reason why we should try a Day 1 lynch - to check out if we can detect scum slips early.

I think I should give a precaution to myself as well. If I would be converted by cult, and their leader is one of the reds/oranges on my list then I would probably try to drive you attention away from the leader and insist on searching for other cult/evil neutrals. But I don't believe that cult would convert me, especially now that I made my own precaution. However, I probably made myself a good kill target for then.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

It helps when you write sentences in the images instead of words and commas.

Can you put the image text also below the image. It helps to google translate the page if the words are not images.

[Boukman]

Alright, even though Sontonax did not bring out his promise, I'll fulfill my own promise and post my current readings on everyone who is present. Don't miss out anything!

Alexandre Petion - Only 2 posts. Posts only in images. Basically he is a much worser poster than Hedouville.
Anacona - Why this guy have not posted more yet? Just simply writing one-liners is not enough to escape our attetion. Something is dfinitely fishy with him.
Baissou - Another low-posters who chooses to keep a low profile for reasons unknows. Worth checking first.
Boukman - Made ony 3 posts, but will probably become more active later. Want not to lynch anyone today. Not sure if it's a town move or not.
Capois LaMort - Started the day with trolling, but went serious later. Definitely a French player. Generally my reads on him are neutral
Catherine Flon - She is one of the more intelligent players here and I really enjoy reading her posts. Definitely a pro-town player right now.
Charles Leclerc - Yeah, that's me alright.
Galbaud - Is he really a Citizen or Brotherhood of Steel Knight? He wants the Missionary to convert him, but I do not believe that directing the Missionary is a pro-town action.
Hedouville - This guy reminds me of character Switch from manga Sket Dance, who only speaks throught synthezised voice in his laptop (call me an otaku if you want). But because of that manner he is impossible to read, even for me. I advice investigative roles to check him to ensure that he is not just fooling with us.
Jean Jacques Dessalines - He contributed a good amount of inforation to us, so he is definetely worthy of being a town player.
Laveaux - He is the literal ebmodiment of Wisdom. Do I need to say anything more? He is a good person.
Mackandal - He is the second player who reacted on Sontonax's list. And made his 2 posts only after seeing his list. Dutifully noted.
Napoleon Bonaparte - I know exactly the hidden meaning behind his picture and I can clearly say one thing: This guy is town. Don't ask me why.
Peinier - Another citizen claimer. Specifically says that he is not jester - "if i was jester i would be much more subtle" Third cit claim in a row, even after Toussant said not to reveal any more claims.
Port-au-Prince - His posts are not bad, but he fell for Hedouville's WIFOM provocation, so chances on him are 50/50.
Rochambeau - The first thing he does is to join the pressure train on Anacona. Apparently chooses to to join our discussion at all. He can't be town in my book right now.
Sanite Belaire - Started to behave rudely towards others at first but then changed his attitide later. But exactly because of that previous attitude I cannot clearly say that he is town.
Sonthonax - His method of scum readings is different from what I've seen so far. Call me overreactive if you want, but I've never seen something like that before. I do want to believe
that he could be town as well, but he needs to contribute to us something better than "random colors"
Toussant L'Ouverturer - The fact that he claimed himself an important role calling for a doctor in his first post leads me to believe that he is not lying. Further more, he wants to ask mind melder for assistance. That is a good move so I'm not going to doubt his good intentions now.
Vincent Oge - You might probably have a different feeling than I do, but I believe that this person is giving off the town vibes. He does the right thing and pressure those who would try to hide and lurk otherwise.

Also, Toussant is right, players can definitely change their behavior after being culted. Any of those green players today could be a cult member tomorrow. Unless Cult Leaders hit masons instead. That's what worrying me in this game, and is the primary reason why we should try a Day 1 lynch - to check out if we can detect scum slips early.

I think I should give a precaution to myself as well. If I would be converted by cult, and their leader is one of the reds/oranges on my list then I would probably try to drive you attention away from the leader and insist on searching for other cult/evil neutrals. But I don't believe that cult would convert me, especially now that I made my own precaution. However, I probably made myself a good kill target for then.

I mostly don't want to lynch since we got a very good chance of lynching a town person, would really suck if we lynched a mason or invest role you know?

[Hedouville]

Houdeville

Please explain.

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[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Why did charles leclerc read himself as a bold grey color? He makes me think he is a ghost.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Ok yes. I will check Hedouville tonight.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

I think there are no farmers in this setup because there are only cult and killing neutral not maf.

[Sonthonax]

Why did charles leclerc read himself as a bold grey color? He makes me think he is a ghost.

Because he is no Town. This Mellodrama has to end quickly!

[Charles Leclerc]

If you have any other questions or suggestions to me, ask then now, because I won't be able to post after 1 hour.

[Peinier]

nooooo im red on charles list but not gonna argue

[Peinier]

Everyone should post now how they think their behavior will change if they get culted. Be as honest as you can.
Therefore cult will not want to convert players who revealed this information.
All town players should reveal this so they are less likely to be culted.

When I am scum I lurk a lot.

if i answer this im at a very high risk of people knowing my com so i will not answer

[Peinier]

STAHP LURKING POST STUFF

[Hedouville]

if i answer this im at a very high risk of people knowing my com so i will not answer

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[Peinier]

ok i will answer

i have never ever been scum so you know im not sure but i would either implode or act as i am doing now

[Peinier]

THREAD DIED

[Galbaud]

what's the point of this?? if someone answers this now (honestly) and gets culted he will try to avoid this behaviour...

[Peinier]

hi paladin

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

what's the point of this?? if someone answers this now (honestly) and gets culted he will try to avoid this behaviour...

If someone answers honestly and then gets culted he will have to avoid the behavior. I think it will be clear that the player is hiding something. This is why I think it is a good idea to say this.

We should also monitor closely players who honestly answer they will not change behavior if culted. This is pro town to answer so please answer. I will compile a table of answers later.

Please answer.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Yes the masons who protect against converting can guard players who will not change the way they play since they are harder to read.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

I really hope I do not get converted because I am really bad as scum.

[Galbaud]

if you wish so: i would probably try to slip under the radar. that means i'd still contribute a bit but not too much and not too active. i would of course try to find the other cult faction and push for a lynch on them.

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Thank you for your contribution.

Nobody is converted yet so it is important to say this information. I think the cult will try to convert people who did not answer this question.

[Galbaud]

Letter from General Gray:

Paladin Galbaud,

I have taken all necessary actions and preparations. Rothchild ensured me that Liberty Prime will be ready in 2-3 days, just in time for our first strike. I need you as commander for the attack. You're the best one I have. Also Elder Lyons has accepted that the Pride assists us. I'm currently working out a detailed plan for the strike, which I will send to you ASAP.

General Gray

Order for Knight Cameron, Knight Peinier and team:

I need you to keep surveilling them. Gathering further intel about their equipment and weaknesses has absolute priority. There are just 2 days left until mission launch.
Good luck
Field Commander Paladin Galbaud

[Anacona]

Alright my niggas... I see this pressure on me. You niggas must be trippin.

I don't mind being interrogated, the cops bust me and my gang all the time. But every time I walk cause those niggas stupid...

So whatcha gotta ask?

If it's why I've been lurkin like a mofo it's cause I'm shitty at gathering reads, and I typically don't got much to say until PRs and feedback gets posted.

[Hedouville]

If someone answers honestly and then gets culted he will have to avoid the behavior. I think it will be clear that the player is hiding something. This is why I think it is a good idea to say this.

We should also monitor closely players who honestly answer they will not change behavior if culted. This is pro town to answer so please answer. I will compile a table of answers later.

Please answer.

[spoiler=Behavior]http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/ErrorMessage_zpsc1eda924.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/ErrorMessage_zpsc1eda924.png.html)[/Behavior]

[Hedouville]

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[Hedouville]

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[Galbaud]

Some additiond
1 while i always try to contribute as much as possible as town you may still think i dont which could lead to misinterpretations
2 when i get culted i will also try to not change my behaviour at all

[Peinier]

Hey anacona firstly stop saying nigga

[Mackandal]

I have returned.

[Mackandal]

I think converted people may act differently in their posts. Sometimes you can notice subtle change in vocabulary when a player has been recruited and or role changed.

[Port-au-Prince]

anacona contributions = mackandal contributions. you cannot say anacona is fishy without saying mackandal is as well.

[Vincent Oge]

If I get culted I will afk the rest of the game.

[Port-au-Prince]

anacona contributions = mackandal contributions. you cannot say anacona is fishy without saying mackandal is as well.

and by this i am referring to quantity and quality of contributions. frankly i dont feel a need to persecute either of them at the moment

[Port-au-Prince]

oh and one more thing: toussants overexaggerated fear of being culted makes me suspicious of him. its one thing to not want to be culted but he is going way overboard on it

[Laveaux]

When someone has become a Cult, there's a chance that they may change behavior. Some players are focused, not changing their behavior at all. The same to PR; When they have gained a clue, they're bound to have a subtle change.

My argument is this : Anyone with a change of personality, will only show themselves non-Citizen.
We should look more into FoS, who's being defended and buddy'd.

[Capois LaMort]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/Mobile%20Uploads/ErrorMessage_zps49cda85f.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/Mobile%20Uploads/ErrorMessage_zps49cda85f.png.html)

Actually, today was more productive than you think. Similar to what has been mentioned before, we have all been getting to know each other, making it more obvious from behavioral change if someone is turned into cult. Also, we've been given some good reads, courtesy of Charles Leclerc, which seem accurate enough from my perspective, mostly since I despise lurkers more than anything else. However, I would like to dispute your opinion on Toussaint Louverture, since it is a common stratagem for an evil to ask for a healer so that they become less suspicious, are protected from other killers, and force the town to lose a healer. Thus, I think Toussaint is more neutral than you suggest. Also, I am still unsure about Napoleon. Your random feelings of trust do not satisfy me.

[Peinier]

Jesus there's a possible 9 m-fm players here that can post if your out there STAHP LURKING

[Mackandal]

My role list!

Louisana Cult Leader
Haitian Cult Leader
Missionary
Witch Hunter
Mind Melder
Jailor
Doctor
Blacksmith
Sheriff
Escort
Journalist
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Serial Killer
Student
Jester
Amnesiac

[Capois LaMort]

When someone has become a Cult, there's a chance that they may change behavior. Some players are focused, not changing their behavior at all. The same to PR; When they have gained a clue, they're bound to have a subtle change.

My argument is this : Anyone with a change of personality, will only show themselves non-Citizen.
We should look more into FoS, who's being defended and buddy'd.

Unless the Citizen shows change simply because he was mindmelded and got information, or in fear because he was attacked and healed.

[Mackandal]

That oddly colored neutral killer makes my eye twitch.

[Sanite Belaire]

What is your reasoning behind several of the roles in the list, Mack?
Specifically the number of citizens, the "any" being neutral, the serial killer, and the mason composition

Unless you, like, decided to say fuck it all and made it randomly. That's Guh-ROSSSS by the way.

[Mackandal]

My role list!

Louisana Cult Leader (Confirmed obviously)
Haitian Cult Leader (See Louisiana Cult Leader)
Missionary (Because masons need to convert (See large amount of citizens))
Witch Hunter (1 KPN)
Mind Melder (Investigative, need many for 9 possible cult)
Jailor (Now 2 KPN)
Doctor (-1 KPN for scum)
Blacksmith (-1 or +1)
Sheriff (See Mind Melder)
Escort (-1 KPN Escort most likely with Serial Killer)
Journalist (Investigative)
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Serial Killer (I have a feeling this will be a high KPN game)
Student (Guess)
Jester (You know this is PoD cohosting?
Amnesiac (A not so balanced way to do a random any but whatevs)

[Mackandal]

Wow I screwed that up.

[Sanite Belaire]

Wow I screwed that up.

How so? I read it fine.

[Peinier]

If your role list contains 5 cits and 3 including me have claimed cit then if more then 5 cits claim the last cit claimed had lied so in conclusion we have lynched a possible scum due to nothing but a role list(but the number of cits has to be real)

So I would suggest everybody writes some form of role list I can not atm cause I'm on my iPod if there's time to post by the time I get back to my pic I will post oh and

How long till day end

Oh another note a way to counter the problem of the role list being real If,lets say 3/4 of the people said there's 5 cits then we lynched the 6th cit same with other roles

[Mackandal]

I want to join the people that claim citizen.

[Sanite Belaire]

I want to join the people that claim citizen.

With that number of citizens I was thinking that you were citizen. I was also hoping that you wouldn't claim today. UGH

[Sanite Belaire]

If your role list contains 5 cits and 3 including me have claimed cit then if more then 5 cits claim the last cit claimed had lied so in conclusion we have lynched a possible scum due to nothing but a role list(but the number of cits has to be real)

So I would suggest everybody writes some form of role list I can not atm cause I'm on my iPod if there's time to post by the time I get back to my pic I will post oh and

How long till day end

Oh another note a way to counter the problem of the role list being real If,lets say 3/4 of the people said there's 5 cits then we lynched the 6th cit same with other roles

Peinier, why not just ask people for an estimate of citizens?

[Capois LaMort]

If your role list contains 5 cits and 3 including me have claimed cit then if more then 5 cits claim the last cit claimed had lied so in conclusion we have lynched a possible scum due to nothing but a role list(but the number of cits has to be real)

So I would suggest everybody writes some form of role list I can not atm cause I'm on my iPod if there's time to post by the time I get back to my pic I will post oh and

How long till day end

Oh another note a way to counter the problem of the role list being real If,lets say 3/4 of the people said there's 5 cits then we lynched the 6th cit same with other roles

For the end of day, look at the very first post.

[Capois LaMort]

It turns out that it is in less than one hour.

[Catherine Flon]

Oh, another citizen claimer.

Ok, now I have a plan.

4 players are a great number on voting board.

I suggest those citizens must behave yourself and if possible, vote in a pattern you all can agree.

All citizens should post how will they sheep/pressurevote/hammer except the regularly obvious conditions.

I know all 4 of you want a lot of freedom on your own voting pattern with your own reasonable intention behind.

However, in order to cripple cultist, I hope all claimed town follow a fixed voting pattern so that you are not allowed to betray your own promise, unless in extreme situation.

Thus, even if you are converted, you won't just flip behavior and slip away.

If possible, I hope you all 4 citizen claimers post some good example about how will you vote on controversial situation.

Situation 1: A day without any Lead.

Situation 2: A day with a lead accusing a public agreed scum player.

Situation 3: A day with complicated feedback.

If you do so, everyone will keep an eye and see if you ever change your own behavior.

By that time, breaking your own voting pattern will become a legit reason to lynch/execute/etc a citizen claimer.

[Catherine Flon]

I agree with the pressure vote on Anacona (5 [L-6]).

However, the day is getting too late. I rather have some voting patterns from citizens.

If any of they use some crappy examples to buy their troll license....we all know what will happen.

[Mackandal]

I think we should wait until the next day for lynch.

[Peinier]

Situation 1:i would put pressure on some of the very scummy players or lurkers like we're doing today.
If I'm voting a lurker or scummy player but most votes are on another person i would sheep my votes to them.
I would hammer I very scummy player if on lynch 1 or just a normal player even if people say not to

Situation 2: I would start of by blindly sheeping said accused player but then look into what the posted etc...
If I saw that he was not that scummy I would look into the lead and pressure a scummy player.
I would hammer said player if any of the able we're avalible.

Situation 3: first i would look into the leads and compile them into a post for everyone then look in depth at said leads before lynching a player a player which is scummy and I have the leads to back me up.
However if someone does something similar I would Sheep the player he lynched if I can't get my own reads of the leads.
I would then hammer said player

I think that is right

[Peinier]

I'm not good with writing down my voting pattern so yeah....

[Peinier]

14 mins left till day end I think

[Mackandal]

Good night, and good luck.

[The Jester King]

Day 1 is over and nobody was lynched.

Night 1 end at this time (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=november+1+2013+9%3A00+PM+EST)

Reminder: Night are 48 hours long instead of 24 hours. All night actions must be submitted by 2 hours before night end. Have a nice sleep.

As the sun went down, people were getting tired. The slaves decided that they had done enough damage and called it a day. The leaders of the town were planning to do what is the best for the town.

The leaders of two largest Vodou cults wanted to get rid of each other. They felt that their own ways were the right way. However, they knew they need to raise an army before they started attacking each other. They decided to go out and convince people of their own ways. They must do it one by one, because the people hate the cults.

[The Jester King]

Can Arsonist undouse themselves?

Yes.

Can Serial Killers kill multiple roleblockers?

No.

[The Jester King]

Day 2 has begun!

Nobody was killed last night!

Day 2 end at this time (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=november+3+2013+9%3A00+PM+EST)

With 20 people alive, it takes 11


As the war goes on, the slaves are taking over lands, and they now control the entire Northern Province. The slaves sought revenge on their masters through pillaging, rape, torture, mutilation and death. However, the plantation owners had long feared such a revolt, they were well armed, and prepared to defend themselves. All the important leaders of the revolution went back to their position and they are all still alive. No one was killed last night.


Players List
Alexandre Petion
Anacona
Baissou
Boukman
Capois LaMort
Catherine Flon
Charles Leclerc
Galbaud
Hedouville
Jean Jacques Dessalines
Laveaux
Mackandal
Napoleon Bonaparte
Peinier
Port-au-Prince
Rochambeau
Sanite Belaire
Sonthonax
Toussant L'Ouverturer
Vincent Oge



Role List
Louisana Cult Leader
Haitian Cult Leader
Hidden Mason
Hidden Mason
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Hidden Neutral Killer
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Any

Not crossed off:
Louisana Soul Swapper

Graveyard
Baissou - Citizen - beheaded by angry mobs on Day 2
Vincent Oge - Citizen - escaped from the angry mobs but died of dehydration and exposure in a quicksand on Day 3
Peinier - Louisana Soul Swapper - lynched on Day 4

[Peinier]

FIRST and nothing happened to me last night and do we have any leads

[Peinier]

Oh and because there's no kill I'm guessing we have a arson,jester,ghost

No bounty no joker

No kill no sk

Can't put in green since on IPOD bold instead?
is arsonist dousing notified to player

[The Jester King]

is arsonist dousing notified to player

Yes

[Peinier]

Ok then once all of you come on if any of you are doused then your first post should tell us

[Laveaux]

Can Joker's Bounty be blocked? It's missing in the OoO.

[Laveaux]

Can Joker's Bounty be blocked? It's missing in the OoO.



Fixed.

[The Jester King]

Can Joker's Bounty be blocked? It's missing in the OoO.

Yes, however it cannot be redirected inserting as 5.5

[Rochambeau]

hi, nothing happened to me last night

[Laveaux]

Yes, however it cannot be redirected inserting as 5.5

This means that we have an Arsonist or a Joker who have become blocked. WIFOM accounted for, it could be an elaborate way of a Serial Killer to keep themselves under the radar. What would break the ice is the feedback of being doused and / or an escort who reveal to have blocked someone.

[Alexandre Petion]

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[Alexandre Petion]

This means that we have an Arsonist or a Joker who have become blocked. WIFOM accounted for, it could be an elaborate way of a Serial Killer to keep themselves under the radar. What would break the ice is the feedback of being doused and / or an escort who reveal to have blocked someone.

Wouldn't that imply that the escort blocked a serial killer and died?
This scenario leaves these cases:
1) Doctor healed target
2) Serial Killer decided not to kill
3) We have an arsonist

[Sanite Belaire]

Nothing happened to me. OHMIGAWD does that mean I'm unpopular?!

Alex, we can't definitively rule out any neutral killers. As host responded that the joker can be blocked. As it stands I think it's an arsonist because only a few people have checked in so far. Lav hasn't said whether something happened to him or not. He can keep it secret if he wants.

Napoleon, Mackandal, Galbaud, were any of you mason'd? Peinier said nothing happened to him so it looks like it's one of you three. I feel that if we can get a line of communication with the masons then the town will be in a much better position. #talkwiththemasons

[Port-au-Prince]

nothing happened to me last night.

[Alexandre Petion]

So, it got really quiet. PortPrince you still here? Wanna keep me company?

[Baissou]

We are the big swinging dicks of this world. Brb vampire diaries netflix for the night.

[Anacona]

Sup my niggas nothing happened last night homies!

[Catherine Flon]

Hello, everyone. I had a great night of hallow.

We have 4 citizen claimers so far. correct?

[Alexandre Petion]

Hello, everyone. I had a great night of hallow.

We have 4 citizen claimers so far. correct?

If I remember correctly, yes.

Night 1 Results:

Peiner: Nothing
Roch: Nothing
Lave: Decided not to claim anything?
Belaire: Nothing
Alex: Nothing
PortPrince: Nothing
Catherine: Nothing
Anaconda: Nothing
Baissou: ??? Nothing ???

[Alexandre Petion]

Easier to read Night 1 results:

Alexandre Petion: Nothing
Anacona: Nothing
Baissou: Nothing
Boukman-
Capois LaMort-
Catherine Flon: Nothing
Charles Leclerc-
Galbaud-
Hedouville-
Jean Jacques Dessalines-
Laveaux: Yet to claim
Mackandal-
Napoleon Bonaparte-
Peinier: Nothing
Port-au-Prince: Nothing
Rochambeau: Nothing
Sanite Belaire: Nothing
Sonthonax-
Toussant L'Ouverturer-
Vincent Oge-

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

Nothing happened to me either. Was anyone jailed?

[Sanite Belaire]

Alex, both Lave and Catherine failed to state whether or not something happened.

Cath, yes that is correct.

[Catherine Flon]

I know something happened, but nothing happened to me.

I agree that people may hide information and therefore your questions are very necessary.

[Catherine Flon]

Citizen claimers : Napoleon #40 Galbaud #59 Peinier #90 Mackandal #324

Please read #329, except Peinier already replied at #332, before a sudden pressure vote start and no time left to discuss this.

[Alexandre Petion]

Alexandre Petion: Nothing
Anacona: Nothing
Baissou: Nothing
Boukman-
Capois LaMort-
Catherine Flon: Nothing
Charles Leclerc-
Galbaud-
Hedouville-
Jean Jacques Dessalines: Nothing
Laveaux: Yet to claim
Mackandal-
Napoleon Bonaparte-
Peinier: Nothing
Port-au-Prince: Nothing
Rochambeau: Nothing
Sanite Belaire: Nothing
Sonthonax-
Toussant L'Ouverturer-
Vincent Oge-


Now with colors.

Catherine has something she wants to share with us?

[Catherine Flon]

Alexandre Petion: Nothing
Anacona: Nothing
Baissou: Nothing
Boukman-
Capois LaMort-
Catherine Flon: Nothing
Charles Leclerc-
Galbaud-
Hedouville-
Jean Jacques Dessalines: Nothing
Laveaux: Yet to claim
Mackandal-
Napoleon Bonaparte-
Peinier: Nothing
Port-au-Prince: Nothing
Rochambeau: Nothing
Sanite Belaire: Nothing
Sonthonax-
Toussant L'Ouverturer-
Vincent Oge-


Now with colors.

Catherine has something she wants to share with us?

The problem I have is that this thing I know has no influence at all before a rich discussion and voting process.

It only help to explain if target behaved different from yesterday or people's relationship changes, but it might took couple days to have any actual effect.

Again, missionary please do not come to my house, entire game.

[Sanite Belaire]

Is anyone else bothered that Rocha is lurking extremely hard? If no other leads come up I'd like to pressure him to post some more. My comeplete reads on him are as followed.

Rocha - 2 posts on day 1. 1 post on day 2. claimed nothing happened night 1.

GUH-ROSSS! Post more or face the consequences.

[Alexandre Petion]

Is anyone else bothered that Rocha is lurking extremely hard? If no other leads come up I'd like to pressure him to post some more. My comeplete reads on him are as followed.

Rocha - 2 posts on day 1. 1 post on day 2. claimed nothing happened night 1.

GUH-ROSSS! Post more or face the consequences.

When it comes to inactivity and pressure, I think you all fail. I was able to get by Day 1 with only 2 posts and no attention on me. Those 2 posts were useless too.

@Catherine: I eagerly await what it is you have to share. Need those feedback results from everyone.

[Sanite Belaire]

When it comes to inactivity and pressure, I think you all fail. I was able to get by Day 1 with only 2 posts and no attention on me. Those 2 posts were useless too.

@Catherine: I eagerly await what it is you have to share. Need those feedback results from everyone.

I noted your inactivity on day 1 but since you're posting more today I didn't mention it.

Cath doesn't need to share information unless it is useful. I doubt it would be useful right now. I'm curious as to what it is and I have some idea, but I feel that it might be better to wait.

[Catherine Flon]

@Alexandre Petion

I shall not. For example, in a regular mafia game, a spy will not reveal those things he knew too early.

My information type requires longer digesting time.

What I can tell you right now is that the information I have contribute catching no neutral killers.

Though I sense you are quite the type of thinker who can dig deeper than others, I rather keep you as a information recorder than knowing too much too early.

And thanks Sanite Belaire, I also hope you wait till tomorrow to start pressure vote. From what I know, I am not quite optimistic about the number of pressure voters.

However, you may count my vote in if there are not enough.

[Charles Leclerc]

Charles Leclerc is at your service once again.

Nothing happened to me last night. However, I managed to analyze a lot of information from Day 1 and can surely tell who can be compltely trusted (that is, if they have been not culted yet). Now I just need to take that chocolate bar from the fridge to stimulate my brain. My readings from Day 1 remain relevant so far.

[Capois LaMort]

Bonjour, I received no response either.

To Mademoiselle Flon, I think you should have kept that to yourself. Now I fear you might fall to the Neutral Killer.

[Capois LaMort]

Charles Leclerc is at your service once again.

Nothing happened to me last night. However, I managed to analyze a lot of information from Day 1 and can surely tell who can be compltely trusted (that is, if they have been not culted yet). Now I just need to take that chocolate bar from the fridge to stimulate my brain. My readings from Day 1 remain relevant so far.

Monsieur Leclerc, did you also look at my slight disagreements towards your analysis? I find that they are valid points and wish your opinion.

[Capois LaMort]

And yes, I am once again trying to get deeper into the RP.

[Hedouville]

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[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

@Alexandre Petion

I shall not. For example, in a regular mafia game, a spy will not reveal those things he knew too early.

My information type requires longer digesting time.

What I can tell you right now is that the information I have contribute catching no neutral killers.

Though I sense you are quite the type of thinker who can dig deeper than others, I rather keep you as a information recorder than knowing too much too early.

And thanks Sanite Belaire, I also hope you wait till tomorrow to start pressure vote. From what I know, I am not quite optimistic about the number of pressure voters.

However, you may count my vote in if there are not enough.

You said your information could take a couple days? You could be culted by then. You have already painted a target on you for all the baddies because you have something they don't want revealed. If you don't tell us feedback today, we may never get it.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

I would put the probability that the Neutral killing is a Joker. With one bounty according to role card, and no deaths N1, and no douse feedback so far, I believe we are more than likely dealing with this neutral killer until someone claims douse.

I doubt a serial killer would give up a night.

[Hedouville]

I would put the probability that the Neutral killing is a Joker. With one bounty according to role card, and no deaths N1, and no douse feedback so far, I believe we are more than likely dealing with this neutral killer until someone claims douse.

I doubt a serial killer would give up a night.

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[Port-au-Prince]

I would put the probability that the Neutral killing is a Joker. With one bounty according to role card, and no deaths N1, and no douse feedback so far, I believe we are more than likely dealing with this neutral killer until someone claims douse.

I doubt a serial killer would give up a night.

i have something to say about the content of this post in particular (not on fos on jean) but i will say it later in the day

[Hedouville]

i have something to say about the content of this post in particular (not on fos on jean) but i will say it later in the day

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[Hedouville]

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[Port-au-Prince]

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when i feel a sufficient amount of posts have been made or when the day has passed enough (i cannot give a specific time but it will be in next twentyfour hours)

[Hedouville]

when i feel a sufficient amount of posts have been made or when the day has passed enough (i cannot give a specific time but it will be in next twentyfour hours)

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[Galbaud]

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???



something happened to me last night. i was not masoned. the role that visited me was pretty dumb imo. could have crossed other ppl's plans

[Sanite Belaire]

Hedo, what were the results of the mind meld? You are the only one who claims to be in a mind meld. Are you the spokesperson? 'Cause you are a shitty one with your pictures.


I would put the probability that the Neutral killing is a Joker. With one bounty according to role card, and no deaths N1, and no douse feedback so far, I believe we are more than likely dealing with this neutral killer until someone claims douse.

I doubt a serial killer would give up a night.

Odds are likely that there's an arsonist who doused someone who hasn't checked in yet. You're misunderstanding the role of joker. It's not 1 bounty for an entire game. It's 1 bounty at a time. There is no way in hell that any joker in the game would wait to place a bounty. The only way that I can see is if he were roleblocked. A serial killer is slightly likelier. He could have attacked someone with night immunity or someone was saved. As it stands right now, the people who would have night immunity aren't going to let us know. The likeliest positive proof of the neutral killer is a douse claim.

Y'all who are keeping secrets, let us know why you're keeping a secret. A simple 'I have some dirt but I want to wait before everyone claims night feedback' would be nice. That example gives a marker of when to expect information. Cath's info will come when there's a meaningful discussion. Cath, what defines a discussion? It's vague but we should wait before we demand the information. P-a-P's 'something to say' barely gives any indication as to why we need to wait. P-a-P, please explain when/why we need to wait.


something happened to me last night. i was not masoned. the role that visited me was pretty dumb imo. could have crossed other ppl's plans
There are few town roles who give feedback to their target. Few of those can 'cross other pp's plans'. What happened? Were you bus driven?

[Hedouville]

Hedo, what were the results of the mind meld? You are the only one who claims to be in a mind meld. Are you the spokesperson? 'Cause you are a shitty one with your pictures.

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[Sanite Belaire]

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There is absolutely no information in this post. Try again.

[Hedouville]

There is absolutely a lot information in that post. So I Fixed it

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[Hedouville]

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Hedouville, Momo

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[Sonthonax]

We have an Escort here.

[Vincent Oge]

Hello, I didn't receive any feedback.

I have a suggestion for entire town: if you have feedback but are not ready to reveal it yet, keep it to yourself. Last wills are enabled for everyone in the game. Saying "I have feedback but not ready to reveal."

1. Scum gets paranoid and starts double checking for scum slips before posting.
2. You make yourself a target.
3. You slow down pace of discussion.

[Vincent Oge]

We have an Escort here.

You were role blocked?

[Galbaud]

Hedo, what were the results of the mind meld? You are the only one who claims to be in a mind meld. Are you the spokesperson? 'Cause you are a shitty one with your pictures.



Odds are likely that there's an arsonist who doused someone who hasn't checked in yet. You're misunderstanding the role of joker. It's not 1 bounty for an entire game. It's 1 bounty at a time. There is no way in hell that any joker in the game would wait to place a bounty. The only way that I can see is if he were roleblocked. A serial killer is slightly likelier. He could have attacked someone with night immunity or someone was saved. As it stands right now, the people who would have night immunity aren't going to let us know. The likeliest positive proof of the neutral killer is a douse claim.

Y'all who are keeping secrets, let us know why you're keeping a secret. A simple 'I have some dirt but I want to wait before everyone claims night feedback' would be nice. That example gives a marker of when to expect information. Cath's info will come when there's a meaningful discussion. Cath, what defines a discussion? It's vague but we should wait before we demand the information. P-a-P's 'something to say' barely gives any indication as to why we need to wait. P-a-P, please explain when/why we need to wait.

There are few town roles who give feedback to their target. Few of those can 'cross other pp's plans'. What happened? Were you bus driven?

yeah, this or escort.
escort wouldn't have crossed my plans cause i'm only a cit but would have if i was not. it would also be dumb to block a citizen.
bd could have crossed the masons' plan to convert me and is so dumb too.

i will not reveal which of the 2 happened

[Sonthonax]

You were role blocked?

I'm just telling you that we have an Escort here. That is all.

[Galbaud]

also if there is a bd (which i may know or not) one of the bded guys should not say anything. this could confirm the bd later. especially since this is the only night where bd feedback can't come from cults

[Vincent Oge]

Can a dreamweaver remove feedback that someone was converted?

[Hedouville]

We have an Escort here.

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/14_zps9d606e02.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/14_zps9d606e02.png.html)

[Peinier]

i think that you are softclaiming escort sonthanx

i also have a feeling anacona or is jester

[Vincent Oge]

I'm just telling you that we have an Escort here. That is all.

Well if you were roleblocked it could be false feedback. Also refer to post 388.

[Sonthonax]

There is no false feedback tonight. The only Cult members are Cult leaders and no non-Cult role can mess feedbacks up.

[Hedouville]

Well if you were roleblocked it could be false feedback. Also refer to post 388.

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[Peinier]

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Peinier*

HELLO POST STUFF

[Galbaud]

HELLO POST STUFF

Knight Peinier, need new field report!

[Vincent Oge]

Hville since you're here, do you have anything tell us from mindmeld chat?

[Peinier]

Paladin Gaulbaud

me and knight Cameron are sending this message to report grave news what we thought was only stragglers of the Enclave army have been reinforced by a even larger force.
we saw that there reinforcements added 16-20 vertibirds and 50-75 more enclave troopers with this new power armour they have acquired,as well as more ammo and some more laser and flame weapons but they also had 2 fat man launcher with 4 mini nukes

on a side note the so called traitor was a spy working for us from the citadel,he was giving the enclave fake plans

Knight peiner and recon team

[Peinier]

Knight Peinier, need new field report!

just wrote it

[Hedouville]

Hville since you're here, do you have anything tell us from mindmeld chat?

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[Peinier]

dead thread is dead and dead thread full of lurkers

[Vincent Oge]

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What you posted was to the other people in your mind meld right? Since you are the mouthpiece for last night's conversation, do they have anything they want to tell us today?

[Boukman]

Hello everyone, nothing happened to me last night. so I suppose we got an arsonist, since sk wouldn't miss out on killing, and the joker would have placed a bounty. Unless they're hiding and trying to trick us?

[Alexandre Petion]

Hello, I didn't receive any feedback.

I have a suggestion for entire town: if you have feedback but are not ready to reveal it yet, keep it to yourself. Last wills are enabled for everyone in the game. Saying "I have feedback but not ready to reveal."

1. Scum gets paranoid and starts double checking for scum slips before posting.
2. You make yourself a target.
3. You slow down pace of discussion.

You do realize that you can be converted right? That means that the town may never get the information.
In Catherine's case, it's regarding a neutral killer, so she can wait since it wouldn't make a difference if she was converted.


@Alexandre Petion

I shall not. For example, in a regular mafia game, a spy will not reveal those things he knew too early.


I think I didn't get my intentions across clearly. I meant to say that I am looking forward to your information and we need those feedback results from everyone else. I assumed that after everyone (or someone in particular) claimed you might reveal your information.

@Sonthonax: You are claiming we have an escort, but what makes you think that? Do you wanna claim that you were role-blocked? Or are you just trying to have something to go along with Galbaud's story?

@Gaulaud: You say you were either RB's or BD'd. Why not claim which one it was? That helps us determine what roles are in the game.

@Hedouville: I would really like to see something that was in the mind-meld chat. Give the town something since no one ever knows if they are going to be converted the next night or not. At least leave something for us to analyze.

What we all need to realize is that keeping information to yourself from Night 1 is not Pro-Town. We need all the feedback results from night 1. These will be pure results that will help us determine roles in the game. Saying "We have an escort in the game." Or "I might have been bussed." is idiotic to me.

In the case of a bus driver swap, ONE person claim that they were bus driven. This allows the town to know we have a bus driver and he can still be confirmed later.
In the case of an escort, claim if you were role-blocked today.

I shouldn't have to explain how giving information to the town is a good idea.

Night 1 feedback so far:

Alexandre Petion: Nothing
Anacona: Nothing
Baissou: Nothing
Boukman: Nothing
Capois LaMort: Nothing
Catherine Flon: Nothing
Charles Leclerc: Nothing
Galbaud: Role-bocked or Bus Driven. Won’t claim which
Hedouville: Mind Meld
Jean Jacques Dessalines: Nothing
Laveaux: Yet to claim
Mackandal-
Napoleon Bonaparte-
Peinier: Nothing
Port-au-Prince: Nothing
Rochambeau: Nothing
Sanite Belaire: Nothing
Sonthonax: Claims we have an escort. No night feedback claimed
Toussant L'Ouverturer-
Vincent Oge: Nothing

[Galbaud]

meh why not. i was busdriven. so there's a bd. whoever else was bded, do NOT reveal

[Alexandre Petion]

Roles List:



Louisana Cult Leader
Haitian Cult Leader

Hidden Mason
Hidden Mason
Hidden Town Power Bus Driver
Hidden Town Power Mind Melder
Hidden Town Power (Escort?)
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town (Citizen?)
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Hidden Neutral Killer

Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Any

+1 LC
+1 HC

Ratio: 12 v 2 v 2 v 1 v 2 +1 any


Read walls and roles lists from others are always welcome.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Roles List:



Louisana Cult Leader
Haitian Cult Leader

Hidden Mason
Hidden Mason
Hidden Town Power Bus Driver
Hidden Town Power Mind Melder
Hidden Town Power (Escort?)
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town (Citizen?)
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Hidden Neutral Killer

Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Any

+1 LC
+1 HC

Ratio: 12 v 2 v 2 v 1 v 2 +1 any


Read walls and roles lists from others are always welcome.

A read wall from you is also welcome. I'm always suspicious of players who just organize opinions but never offer any ideas or pressure of their own... I'll take your efforts as pro-town for now D:

Anyways, I was not converted last night. And nobody else gave me any other feedback, either.


Hello, I didn't receive any feedback.

I have a suggestion for entire town: if you have feedback but are not ready to reveal it yet, keep it to yourself. Last wills are enabled for everyone in the game. Saying "I have feedback but not ready to reveal."

1. Scum gets paranoid and starts double checking for scum slips before posting.
2. You make yourself a target.
3. You slow down pace of discussion.

I find it interesting how you chose your words. "I didn't receive any feedback", are you indicating that you think something may have happened to you that didn't give feedback?


Again, missionary please do not come to my house, entire game.

This is suspicious. Why would you never want the Masons to visit you the entire game? Are you trying to tell the Masons not the club the shit out of you? I guess it could be a claim shrouded by wifom, which could be smart.... but I don't really see any other actions you are doing that support this thought.


We are the big swinging dicks of this world. Brb vampire diaries netflix for the night.

This is good for your only post of the day, then you run off without even saying if anything happened to you.. I wouldn't be opposed to a Baissou lynch, today. Or at least a forced role-claim.



Anyways, I think Anacona is still the best pressure vote for today. If you guys disagree, then I feel that Baissou is the next best target. Please lemme know your opinions.
Anacona

Anacona, who did you target last night?

[Charles Leclerc]

Hmm, from that list I can conclude that we are still in good odds even if both cult leaders manage to get a conversion each. They can't recruit and can't kill on 2nd night so we can be at ease. 2 days should be enought for us to find one of the cult leaders or at least a neutral killer. Hm... the only information we have right now is a presence of escort and mind melder.

But why would that person meld Hedouville of all people? Ironically the most annoying person in the world now probably holds the most important information for us.

[Laveaux]

But why would that person meld Hedouville of all people? Ironically the most annoying person in the world now probably holds the most important information for us.

I'm interested in the two other who have been part of the mind meld.

[Charles Leclerc]

All we can do is to wait and let him speak first. I do hope he is a sane person after all.

[Peinier]

im only want a role claim from anacona because i think shes a jester

anacona

[Catherine Flon]

To busdriver and mind melder, my opinion is same as Alexandre Petion.

I agree that only one person report on busdriven/mindmeld each day would be sufficient enough for people to know that there is a busdriver or a mind melder exist.

I totally believe in the story of Hedouville, because even if he is a liar, no one dare to lie on the mind meld, correct?

The night chat in mind meld is interesting, but I do not think it is a good idea to dig it out.

I recall there are not many roles that can convert,

so if possible all we aim first is to kill those rather than those who is already turned, unless we have to, correct?

I think cultists will plan on the same thing to mason or the other cultist.

I will be back in few hours,

About half people checked in, I think pressure vote will start soon.

[Peinier]

Hmm, from that list I can conclude that we are still in good odds even if both cult leaders manage to get a conversion each. They can't recruit and can't kill on 2nd night so we can be at ease. 2 days should be enought for us to find one of the cult leaders or at least a neutral killer. Hm... the only information we have right now is a presence of escort and mind melder.



we also have a bd

[Vincent Oge]

I said I received no feedback because I do not know if I was visited, only that no roles that give feedback did.

[Charles Leclerc]

im only want a role claim from anacona because i think shes a jester

anacona

"Look at me, I believe that Anacona is jester. I want you to lynch Anacona even though 1/4 of the people could die after that."

Is that what you wanted to say, Peinier? You telli us that Anacona could be a jester, and then you vote that person. Where is contradiction?

[Anacona]

"Look at me, I believe that Anacona is jester. I want you to lynch Anacona even though 1/4 of the people could die after that."

Is that what you wanted to say, Peinier? You telli us that Anacona could be a jester, and then you vote that person. Where is contradiction?
This.



Also Napoleon, what makes you assume I targeted someone when I could be a Citizen who targeted no one?

[Alexandre Petion]

A read wall from you is also welcome. I'm always suspicious of players who just organize opinions but never offer any ideas or pressure of their own... I'll take your efforts as pro-town for now D:

Anyways, I was not converted last night. And nobody else gave me any other feedback, either.


Any other feedback besides "not converted"?

Good. I don't want someone to trust me on words alone. I would find that suspicious.
I find it interesting that we have so few read walls this game too.


Alexandre Petion: call me Alex.
Anacona
Baissou
Boukman
Capois LaMort
Catherine Flon
Charles Leclerc
Galbaud
Hedouville
Jean Jacques Dessalines
Laveaux
Mackandal
Napoleon Bonaparte
Peinier
Port-au-Prince
Rochambeau
Sanite Belaire
Sonthonax
Toussant L'Ouverturer
Vincent Oge

Lime Green: Most likely town.
Dark Green: Pro-Active and beneficial to town enough to keep around...for now.
Yellow: Unsure and would like to see more from these players.
Orange: Leaning more towards scum. Same as yellow.






I'm interested in the two other who have been part of the mind meld.

I'm interested to see if you're going to claim any night 1 feedback or not.

[Peinier]

no i meant i want to pressure him/her but not lynch so he/she role claims but not risk jester

[Alexandre Petion]

Night 1 Feedback

Alexandre Petion: Nothing
Anacona: Nothing
Baissou: Nothing
Boukman: Nothing
Capois LaMort: Nothing
Catherine Flon: Nothing
Charles Leclerc: Nothing
Galbaud: Bus-Driven
Hedouville: Mind Meld (Port-Prince)
Jean Jacques Dessalines: Nothing
Laveaux: Yet to claim
Mackandal-
Napoleon Bonaparte- “Not converted"
Peinier: Nothing
Port-au-Prince: Nothing
Rochambeau: Nothing
Sanite Belaire: Nothing
Sonthonax: Claims we have an escort…didn’t claim night feedback
Toussant L'Ouverturer-
Vincent Oge: Nothing


Only two people have yet to check in today. So far there are no signs of Arsonist dousing or a heal.
This leaves the Natural Killer likely to be a Joker or Arsonist (Role-Blocked).

If you are a role-blocked towny, please feel free to claim role-blocked. Just because you were role-blocked doesn't mean you are scum :)
Also if someone was jailed, I think it would be in the town's best interest to claim that you were jailed.


no i meant i want to pressure him/her but not lynch so he/she role claims but not risk jester
You realize that what you are doing makes zero sense right?

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

This.



Also Napoleon, what makes you assume I targeted someone when I could be a Citizen who targeted no one?

I believe your original posts targeted you for an easy lynch in some people's eyes. I see this continues today, but I don't think lynching anyone claiming citizen is a good idea. Masons should either be able to recruit them or smite them (hopefully) and their true role will come out with time at the hand of the masons.

That said, I don't think your a Citizen. I think a Citizen would have claimed it, not insinuating that you could be. I read you as Neutral or Cult, more than likely Neutral, although your attitude has changed somewhat today.

Catherine is pulling all the attention to her, with requests for missionaries not to visit, with possible evidence that is not to be revealed (possibly not even revealed today). The vague attention grabbing with no real reason to give attention reminds me of ghost play, or a jester.

I would be against lynching a citizen claim, Anacona, or Catherine today.

[Anacona]

I believe your original posts targeted you for an easy lynch in some people's eyes. I see this continues today, but I don't think lynching anyone claiming citizen is a good idea. Masons should either be able to recruit them or smite them (hopefully) and their true role will come out with time at the hand of the masons.

That said, I don't think your a Citizen. I think a Citizen would have claimed it, not insinuating that you could be. I read you as Neutral or Cult, more than likely Neutral, although your attitude has changed somewhat today.

Catherine is pulling all the attention to her, with requests for missionaries not to visit, with possible evidence that is not to be revealed (possibly not even revealed today). The vague attention grabbing with no real reason to give attention reminds me of ghost play, or a jester.

I would be against lynching a citizen claim, Anacona, or Catherine today.

You think I might be a Ghost or a Jester and you want to lynch me. Sounds good my nigga.

[Galbaud]

ok let's use the united citizen votes for pressure, as you wished last day

Anacona

didn't contribute anything so far

[Sanite Belaire]

All we can do is to wait and let him speak first. I do hope he is a sane person after all.

We can do a bit more than wait and you know it. We can lynch him because he's not giving any information out. That ought to be something that the mind melder should do. Have a certain piece of information or direction to publicly declare. Hedo has been abrasive, nearly incommunicable, and now keeping something secret that shouldn't be completely secret. Lynching Hedo does a few things for us. 1. We would get the information that he has and is willing to give to town, BEFORE anything could change his alignment. 2. We wouldn't have to deal with the shit pictures anymore. 3. There is no 3 but I want to emphasize point number 2. We wouldn't have to deal with the nearly informationless pictures.

What say you to that? #getthelynchballrollin



I would be against lynching a citizen claim, Anacona, or Catherine today.

Who would you be willing to lynch today?

Please don't forget that Rocha still hasn't posted a second time today.

[Capois LaMort]

Bon après-midi! From what I can tell, I have an inkling as to what Mademoiselle Flon is "claiming" her role to be. If I am correct, it is indeed useful for rooting out the Neutral Killer, since in general, the Neutral Killers have actions that are single target and have unique notifications. Thus, I am fairly convinced that she is town. However, I am not sure why she doe not want the Missionary to visit her, since the Missionary can only convert Citizens, unless she just does not want the Missionary to waste a night.

In the case of Mademoiselle Anacaona (yes, the actual person was female), her actions do seem discordant, but I do not think he is a Jester or a Ghost, since they would usually be much more subtle than outright angering others. It might just be WIFOM though.

[Charles Leclerc]

I would be against lynching a citizen claim, Anacona, or Catherine today.

You are against lynching a citizen claim? Then tell me, what role claim a Cult Leader would use in order to hide himself? A citizen claim or a Town PR claim?

We already have 4 Citizen claimers from the last day. That's more than those that are already known in our setup. I believe there won't be more than 5 possible Citizens in this game, but like I said, what you just did last day probably gave Cult Leaders an easier job for finding Town PRs. Even that escort or bus driver could be converted as well. Unless some of those town PRs are WIFOMing Citizen as well.

[Rochambeau]

i'm going to keep my vote on anacona from yesterday, I'm still interested in seeing where that will go. Sorry i haven't been able to post more, been out of town.

[Hedouville]

What you posted was to the other people in your mind meld right? Since you are the mouthpiece for last night's conversation, do they have anything they want to tell us today?



@Hedouville: I would really like to see something that was in the mind-meld chat. Give the town something since no one ever knows if they are going to be converted the next night or not. At least leave something for us to analyze.



I'm interested in the two other who have been part of the mind meld.

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[Sanite Belaire]

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz322/Hedouville/17_zpsfdf1a3fd.png (http://s840.photobucket.com/user/Hedouville/media/17_zpsfdf1a3fd.png.html)

Vincent Oge's questions were y/n. You are one annoying fuck. Why should we put up with you?

Rocha, a sheep vote on a lynch with a flawed argument isn't a good post.

[Rochambeau]

Vincent Oge's questions were y/n. You are one annoying fuck. Why should we put up with you?

Rocha, a sheep vote on a lynch with a flawed argument isn't a good post.

gfyidgaf. there was no argument so dno what you're talking about there.

[Port-au-Prince]

i'm going to keep my vote on anacona from yesterday, I'm still interested in seeing where that will go. Sorry i haven't been able to post more, been out of town.

that reasoning is bad on so many levels. first you used the word "interesting" which is one of the biggest scum tells ever. second youre saying youre voting him today because you voted him yesterday.

rochambeau

i do not support an anacona lynch nor do i think she is jester

as for what i was waiting to say i was waiting for more people to claim feedbacks. my main point was that from what we know we cant tell which neutral killer it was. there are two people with autovests and there could be a doctor about (not to mention an sk couldve deliberately nked for some reason or just have been afk). at the same time an arsonist or joker couldve been roleblocked and either the arson or the sk couldve been made to target self via busdriver. i just found it odd that people were jumping to conclusions that there couldnt be an sk and i would wonder if maybe one of them was an sk trying to hide themselves

[Sanite Belaire]

gfyidgaf. there was no argument so dno what you're talking about there.

The lynch's premise is flawed. It goes something along the lines of, 'Ana is likely jester or ghost, thus we must vote to pressure him'

Your vote is just stupid

[Rochambeau]

The lynch's premise is flawed. It goes something along the lines of, 'Ana is likely jester or ghost, thus we must vote to pressure him'

Your vote is just stupid

i never once said i believe anacona to be a jester or a ghost.

[Port-au-Prince]

i never once said i believe anacona to be a jester or a ghost.

for that matter you didnt say much at all

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

first you used the word "interesting" which is one of the biggest scum tells ever.

lol

[Sanite Belaire]

i never once said i believe anacona to be a jester or a ghost.

You also had no argument for the vote.

gfyidgaf. there was no argument so dno what you're talking about there.

All you gave was a vote on the only wagon that's rolling.

[Alexandre Petion]

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Will you disclose the name of at most 1 other member in the mind meld?
If not, would you think it's a good idea for 1 out of the other 2 to reveal themselves?
Did you feel that the players in the chat kept the same style and mind-set they did during day 1?
Did you feel that the players in the chat kept the same style and mind-set they did last night, today?
Have all of those in the mind-meld participated in today's discussion?
Did all of the participants come to agreements of opinions on players and the setup?
Do you think that the mind-melder was present in the chat?
Do you trust the others in the mind-meld chat?
Will you post a sample of the discussion for us to view?

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

All you gave was a vote on the only wagon that's rolling.

Not trying to buddy, but a sheep vote is 100x better than what you're doing, which is not voting at all.
If we're not going to pressure today, and we have no roles killing at night, then town is just going to get demolished and we may as well just sit on our asses and wait to be converted.

[Hedouville]

Why should we put up with you?


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[Napoleon Bonaparte]

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you realize you're only hindering town by posting with pictures, right?

[Sanite Belaire]

Not trying to buddy, but a sheep vote is 100x better than what you're doing, which is not voting at all.
If we're not going to pressure today, and we have no roles killing at night, then town is just going to get demolished and we may as well just sit on our asses and wait to be converted.

I'm trying to get the right suspect to vote. I'm not going in all gung ho because that can be disastrous.

[Sanite Belaire]

you realize you're only hindering town by posting with pictures, right?

He knows it hinders town

[Rochambeau]

You also had no argument for the vote.


All you gave was a vote on the only wagon that's rolling.

Yes i haven't much to say, if you have any questions for me, please do no hesitate to ask. But I feel that currently, this is where the game is going and I'd like to see what role anacona claims. I have no other information to provide on anyone currently.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

I'm trying to get the right suspect to vote. I'm not going in all gung ho because that can be disastrous.

oh yes, L-7 is really hung-ho. ..
Instead, let's look for the "right" suspect and then start voting them with a few hours left in the day again and no-lynch!! genius~

Pressuring is HOW we get the right suspect, not just by sitting there and questioning people over retarded things like activity. A misslynch while we can afford it will provide us with much more information than no-lynch....

[Boukman]

He knows it hinders town

Well why do it then?

Jester? Cultist playing jester? Troll town?

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

Well why do it then?

Jester? Cultist playing jester? Troll town?

There is no reason to do it. It's anti-town and it will end up getting him lynched instead of correct scum at a later date. He's just a bad player.

[Hedouville]

Will you disclose the name of at most 1 other member in the mind meld?
If not, would you think it's a good idea for 1 out of the other 2 to reveal themselves?
Did you feel that the players in the chat kept the same style and mind-set they did during day 1?
Did you feel that the players in the chat kept the same style and mind-set they did last night, today?
Have all of those in the mind-meld participated in today's discussion?
Did all of the participants come to agreements of opinions on players and the setup?
Do you think that the mind-melder was present in the chat?
Do you trust the others in the mind-meld chat?
Will you post a sample of the discussion for us to view?

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[Alexandre Petion]

For those of you hung up on the whole "talking with images thing", we have better things to discuss.
Don't side track the discussion with that nonsense.

No matter the method of communication, so long as there is information that can be of benefit, it shouldn't matter.
He gets the point across quickly and efficiently. It's good to suspect him and keep tabs on him, but don't let that distract us from getting things accomplished.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

For those of you hung up on the whole "talking with images thing", we have better things to discuss.
Don't side track the discussion with that nonsense.

No matter the method of communication, so long as there is information that can be of benefit, it shouldn't matter.
He gets the point across quickly and efficiently. It's good to suspect him and keep tabs on him, but don't let that distract us from getting things accomplished.

no one is side-tracking the discussion, we're saying that what he is doing is a shitty way of communicating and will only hurt our cause.
It will be literally impossible to tell if he has been culted if he isn't using words, and it's bs that the hosts are letting him do it imo.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

You think I might be a Ghost or a Jester and you want to lynch me. Sounds good my nigga.

You obviously have a hard time reading. I am against lynching a citizen claimer. I am against lynching Anacona. I am against lynching Catherine. Break it down Barney style for you there.

I am against lynching a citizen claim because their needed to bolster the masons. The masons could have chosen a citizen to recruit last night, and that citizen would more than likely still claim citizen. What if we put a citizen up and he says hes a mason? You want the other masons to reveal themselves to save someone they just recruited? It's problematic, and a waste of time.

Anacona, just like this post, is pushing for negative reads from everyone. He wants to be lynched. That would be a ghost or jester, I would prefer a invest check him for true role before we regret it and have to deal with jester deaths or a ghost.

Catherine plays a bit like town, but not revealing her feedback, and the message to the masons, shows attention grabbing. This reminds me of ghost tactics, to either be killed at night for possible evidence or lynched for lying later on.

I am not big on pressure and I am not going to push for a lynch on someone without more information. Maybe if there was some feedback that made someone suspicious I would look into that more, but for now it just sounds like bandwagon lynching at this point. I think the only people who would get support for this would be cultist and the serial killer, the only ones who would want to push for someone's death during the day so they don't have to do it themselves.

[Sanite Belaire]

oh yes, L-7 is really hung-ho. ..
Instead, let's look for the "right" suspect and then start voting them with a few hours left in the day again and no-lynch!! genius~

Pressuring is HOW we get the right suspect, not just by sitting there and questioning people over retarded things like activity. A misslynch while we can afford it will provide us with much more information than no-lynch....

Pardon me for being cautious...

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

You obviously have a hard time reading. I am against lynching a citizen claimer. I am against lynching Anacona. I am against lynching Catherine. Break it down Barney style for you there.

I am against lynching a citizen claim because their needed to bolster the masons. The masons could have chosen a citizen to recruit last night, and that citizen would more than likely still claim citizen. What if we put a citizen up and he says hes a mason? You want the other masons to reveal themselves to save someone they just recruited? It's problematic, and a waste of time.

Anacona, just like this post, is pushing for negative reads from everyone. He wants to be lynched. That would be a ghost or jester, I would prefer a invest check him for true role before we regret it and have to deal with jester deaths or a ghost.

Catherine plays a bit like town, but not revealing her feedback, and the message to the masons, shows attention grabbing. This reminds me of ghost tactics, to either be killed at night for possible evidence or lynched for lying later on.

I am not big on pressure and I am not going to push for a lynch on someone without more information. Maybe if there was some feedback that made someone suspicious I would look into that more, but for now it just sounds like bandwagon lynching at this point. I think the only people who would get support for this would be cultist and the serial killer, the only ones who would want to push for someone's death during the day so they don't have to do it themselves.

who did you target last night?

[Alexandre Petion]

no one is side-tracking the discussion, we're saying that what he is doing is a shitty way of communicating and will only hurt our cause.
It will be literally impossible to tell if he has been culted if he isn't using words, and it's bs that the hosts are letting him do it imo.

I think you are doing exactly as I stated.
Opinions noted. Cares not given.
Back to the game.

[Boukman]

And what should we do? We got 4 citizen claims and no leads from investigative roles so far.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

I think you are doing exactly as I stated.
Opinions noted. Cares not given.
Back to the game.

lol him posting pictures is part of this game.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

And what should we do? We got 4 citizen claims and no leads from investigative roles so far.

pressure for role claims is what we should be doing

@Jean, you say that you think Anacona is Jester/Ghost, but you won't pressure for a role claim... buddying noted.
Just because we're voting someone doesn't mean we're lynching them. If we start getting pressure early, it allows us to change to another target to get another roleclaim before the day ends. The more information out in the open the better, because we can then begin to catch inconsistencies.

[Boukman]

pressure for role claims is what we should be doing

@Jean, you say that you think Anacona is Jester/Ghost, but you won't pressure for a role claim... buddying noted.
Just because we're voting someone doesn't mean we're lynching them. If we start getting pressure early, it allows us to change to another target to get another roleclaim before the day ends. The more information out in the open the better, because we can then begin to catch inconsistencies.

But of course if we put up a mason or the mason leader it will cause problems, or perhaps an investigate role or bodyguard, or maybe we'll put up a doctor and find out later he's the only doctor in the game for town.

With the amount of randoms I really don't know what we have.

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

you're absolutely right.
let's not do anything.
bye be back day 3

[Alexandre Petion]

And what should we do? We got 4 citizen claims and no leads from investigative roles so far.

We've got 3 people who have yet to claim night 1 feedback.
1 person who simply didn't post it. (unless I missed something)
2 people who have yet to show up to our discussion.

There's still a chance for something to pop-up.

What we should be doing is a stupid question to ask.

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But of course if we put up a mason or the mason leader it will cause problems, or perhaps an investigate role or bodyguard, or maybe we'll put up a doctor and find out later he's the only doctor in the game for town.

With the amount of randoms I really don't know what we have.

I don't even...

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

who did you target last night?

Who did you target last night?

[The Jester King]

Can a dreamweaver remove feedback that someone was converted?

No, dreamweavers cannot remove any feedback.

[Baissou]

FTR

I have been not posting out of laziness
I have no feedback I want to report
I am Town

kk have to get a physical

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

I would, however, be ok with pressuring and maybe lynching a lurker/inactive poster. If people are not posting, then they are useless.

[Charles Leclerc]

who did you target last night?

Who did you target last night?

Why do you keep asking such questions? This shows how odd those two are, asking each other the same question. Or maybe it's Jean Jacques that is a strange one because the asked that second. I might vote Jean Jacques later, because it feels like he wants to defend himself by "counter-attacking".


FTR

I have been not posting out of laziness
I have no feedback I want to report
I am Town

kk have to get a physical

If you do not want to lynch Anacona, Baissou is a better target for pressuring, because the "I am Town" is such a shitty phrase for defense.

Baissou

[Capois LaMort]

Personally, I believe that we should just wait out the day, since we do not have any more information, at least shared, that we did not have yesterday.

My opinion on the Neutral Killer is that he got role blocked, so either an Arson or Joker, since none of the killers would receive a benefit from just waiting it out.

Before I forget,
Can Cult Leaders be converted?
I would be fairly scared if one cult had two converters.

[The Jester King]

Personally, I believe that we should just wait out the day, since we do not have any more information, at least shared, that we did not have yesterday.

My opinion on the Neutral Killer is that he got role blocked, so either an Arson or Joker, since none of the killers would receive a benefit from just waiting it out.

Before I forget,
Can Cult Leaders be converted?
I would be fairly scared if one cult had two converters.

No, cult members cannot be converted to the other cult.
In no circumstances will multiple cult leaders allow a cult faction additional conversions per night.

[Capois LaMort]

Why do you keep asking such questions? This shows how odd those two are, asking each other the same question. Or maybe it's Jean Jacques that is a strange one because the asked that second. I might vote Jean Jacques later, because it feels like he wants to defend himself by "counter-attacking".



If you do not want to lynch Anacona, Baissou is a better target for pressuring, because the "I am Town" is such a shitty phrase for defense.

Baissou

It would be a better idea to pressure those who have not actually said anything at all, such as Monsieur Louverture.
Toussant L'Ouverturer

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

Why do you keep asking such questions? This shows how odd those two are, asking each other the same question. Or maybe it's Jean Jacques that is a strange one because the asked that second. I might vote Jean Jacques later, because it feels like he wants to defend himself by "counter-attacking".



If you do not want to lynch Anacona, Baissou is a better target for pressuring, because the "I am Town" is such a shitty phrase for defense.

Baissou

Because the question that was asked was silly. If i had something useful to say about last night, I would have said it already. When did I attack anyone? I give my reads and certain people manipulate my posts. The manipulation is apparent.
Baissou has no feedback he wants to report can you clarify Baissou? Did you get feedback or feedback you don't want to post like catherine?

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

It would be a better idea to pressure those who have not actually said anything at all, such as Monsieur Louverture.
Toussant L'Ouverturer

This I agree with. I will place my vote for pressure to hear more conversation.

Toussant L'Ouverturer

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

No, cult members cannot be converted to the other cult.
In no circumstances will multiple cult leaders allow a cult faction additional conversions per night.

Can Cult Random be a Cult Leader?

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

I am not sure if that makes it easier or difficult if the cults have more than one leader...

[The Jester King]

Can Cult Random be a Cult Leader?

No.

[Capois LaMort]

Can Cult Random be a Cult Leader?

Can the Hidden Any be a Cult Leader?

[The Jester King]

Can the Hidden Any be a Cult Leader?

No

[Sanite Belaire]

What's with all the people who didn't read the setup?

[Capois LaMort]

I am not sure if that makes it easier or difficult if the cults have more than one leader...

If there were two leaders, it would mean that the Cult could either make a conversion and a kill, or two kills, since it was already confirmed that they cannot make a second conversion.

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

If there were two leaders, it would mean that the Cult could either make a conversion and a kill, or two kills, since it was already confirmed that they cannot make a second conversion.

According to the gods that be, we don't have to worry about this.

[Capois LaMort]

What's with all the people who didn't read the setup?

The setup does not mention whether Cultists are conversion immune nor whether the Random or Hidden Any could be Cult Leaders.

[Sanite Belaire]

The setup does not mention whether Cultists are conversion immune nor whether the Random or Hidden Any could be Cult Leaders.

From the FAQ:


What happens if one of the cult tries to convert another member of the cult?
The conversion will fail and the Cult will need to spend another night recruiting someone.

[Sanite Belaire]

The setup does not mention whether Cultists are conversion immune nor whether the Random or Hidden Any could be Cult Leaders.

From the setup on possible hidden anys

Hidden Any: Citizen, Escort, Sheriff, Investigator, Lookout, Detective, Doctor, Bodyguard, Busdriver, Charm Maker, Witch Hunter, Preacher, Missionary, Disciple, Vigilante, Jailor, Veteran, Blacksmith, Mind Melder(Architect), Journalist, Arsonist, Joker, Serial killer , Amnesiac, Executioner, Survivor, Jester, Ghost, Student, Corrupt Journalist

Do you see a cult leader? I don't

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

From the FAQ:

I don't think you understand what we are saying... it doesn't say cult random after conversion could be cult leader, and it didn't say any random couldn't be another cult leader.

[Capois LaMort]

From the FAQ:

Oh I missed that one. But the randoms were not addressed.

[Sanite Belaire]

I don't think you understand what we are saying... it doesn't say cult random after conversion could be cult leader, and it didn't say any random couldn't be another cult leader.

I did misunderstood that part. I think that it would be common sense that cult leader would be a unique role. Per cult of course.

[Hedouville]

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[Boukman]

This I agree with. I will place my vote for pressure to hear more conversation.

Toussant L'Ouverturer

I can agree with this as well, a little communication is somewhat suspicious, but I haven't seen any posts by him yet.

-vote Toussant L'Ouverturer

[Peinier]

toussant L'ouverturer

[Charles Leclerc]

He made some good and relevant posts back during Day 1. But what is holding him up now? 20 hours have already passed and he hasn't posted ever since Day 1.

I'll be away for 8 hours, I hope he'll post something by the time I return.

[Baissou]

If you do not want to lynch Anacona, Baissou is a better target for pressuring, because the "I am Town" is such a shitty phrase for defense.

Baissou

Just thought I should clarify my alignment. Anything else would be "trying too hard to seem Town", considering my post count and overall effort contributed thus far.



Baissou has no feedback he wants to report can you clarify Baissou? Did you get feedback or feedback you don't want to post like catherine?

Could I have been any more clear?

[Port-au-Prince]

screw it why not

toussant l'ouverturer

i still think rochambeau is suspicious but i suppose that will be addressed later

so much conversation wasted on stupid setup questions

[Sonthonax]

1) Yes, I was roleblocked. Alex gets +1 Town point.

2) Please explain why are you voting Anacona? Do you believe he is a Cult Leader? I don't think so, he is lurking way too much. Or maybe you think he would be a good target to convert after being in the spotlight on d1? That would be great, at least one Cult Leader is a moron. I don't support this lynch.

3) Both lynches on Anacona were started by Napoleon. I see potential Executioner here.

4) I like it.

Toussant L'ouverturer

5) Two sheep votes on Anacona (#247 & #430), with bad excuse. Here, take my fake vote.

-vote Rochambeau

[Catherine Flon]

I am back. I read all.

@Capois LaMort
#367

What I can tell you right now is that the information I have contribute catching no neutral killers.


Generally that means, I can not catch neutral killer from what I have.

@ Hedouville

I really want to ask some yes and no questions:
1. Did anyone claim/appear as mason during mind meld?
2. Was anyone not very active during mind meld?
3. Were there any lurkers from day 1 selected into mind meld?


I will not support the pressure vote on toussant l'ouverturer at the moment, due to the others who I trust didn't vote on him.



About Force Claim etc,

We do have a busdriver.

Thus, even if a mason leader were tragically revealed, the worst possibility should be:

1. He/she failed to convert last night
2. He/she were force claimed day 2
3. He/she was roleblocked eversince
4. He/she was killed shortly.

I'd say the chance is very good for town at the moment.

We can indeed act more aggresive on pressure votes.

I really like to hear that if anyone refuse to vote on others.

Such as what Jean Jacques Dessalines did,

kitty refused to lynch citizen, me.

That is very clear.

The point is, if there are more than 6 people refuse to lynch on a same person, the pressure vote on such a person is impossible.

All votes on such a vain effort will be considered as wasting time.

To extreme, some one will vote on target who will never get lynched because the person want to show no interesting on others.

Frequently switching votes can also easily be avoided by scums.

I do agree that 'poking' vote for response is very helpful.

For my case, day 2,

I will not lynch Hedouville, Charles Leclerc, Jean Jacques Dessalines and Capois LaMort, as well as the first 3 citizen claimer. (Those who claimed late...Sorry but I do not give you those free tickets to heaven.)

I hope Toussant L'Ouverturer will post on time.

As to Anacona (3 [L-8]), I do want to press her, however with votes split this much.... I see not much chance....

Baissou's response is quite calm, however, indeed he faces no much pressure neither.

I suggest citizen claimers rally together and vote concentrating on those who all citizen see as scum instead.

Voting is citizens' main job. I know you can do it!

One simple method is post the Colored Name board such as what Sonthonax did first, and vote on person who get all red acrossing all citizen's poll.

If someone's poll board is seriously different from others, we can always dig.

Pressure vote requires concentration after all.

[Alexandre Petion]

Generally that means, I can not catch neutral killer from what I have.

My misunderstanding of your post might've misled him on that. Or you might have meant to send that comment to me instead of Capois



We do have a busdriver.

Trying to take a claim or just restating what has been stated?



For my case, day 2,

I will not lynch Hedouville, Charles Leclerc, Jean Jacques Dessalines and Capois LaMort, as well as the first 3 citizen claimer. (Those who claimed late...Sorry but I do not give you those free tickets to heaven.)

Can I get your reads on these people whom you refuse to lynch?




I suggest citizen claimers rally together and vote concentrating on those who all citizen see as scum instead.

Voting is citizens' main job. I know you can do it!

One simple method is post the Colored Name board such as what Sonthonax did first, and vote on person who get all red acrossing all citizen's poll.

If someone's poll board is seriously different from others, we can always dig.

Pressure vote requires concentration after all.

Not sure you reasoning behind this, but the more read walls the better. I'm surprised we haven't had that many.

[Catherine Flon]

1. Trying to take a claim or just restating what has been stated?

2. Can I get your reads on these people whom you refuse to lynch?

3. Not sure you reasoning behind this, but the more read walls the better. I'm surprised we haven't had that many.

@Alexandre Petion I am typically very sad that you were not here day 1.

1. I restated that we have a busdriver to say that we shouldn't fear to out a possible mason.

This was a response to Boukman, who stated couple times that he do not know what to do and cast the sad scenario of a mason claim....eventually he sheeped the vote anyway...

2. Some of it is related to the information I have at hand. However, Hedouville might think the same.

My trust has something to do with day 1 and night 1, but I trust those ones for now at least.

You do not have to worry that I would vote you at the moment.

I believe no one will vote you today, visually no one.


3. The votes are not strong and effective.

As you see citizens are fighting each other. Napoleon went "lol, I'm out for day 3." after accusing others for no votings. He voted Anacona. Penier did his part as what he stated day 1., but splited voting on to Toussant L'Ouverturer.

One thing I really worried is: If they could no stay together when they are all town-side. How will we catch them if they are cultist?

[Catherine Flon]

Situation 1: A day without any Lead.

Situation 2: A day with a lead accusing a public agreed scum player.

Situation 3: A day with complicated feedback.


Situation 1:i would put pressure on some of the very scummy players or lurkers like we're doing today.
If I'm voting a lurker or scummy player but most votes are on another person i would sheep my votes to them.
I would hammer I very scummy player if on lynch 1 or just a normal player even if people say not to

Situation 2: I would start of by blindly sheeping said accused player but then look into what the posted etc...
If I saw that he was not that scummy I would look into the lead and pressure a scummy player.
I would hammer said player if any of the able we're avalible.

Situation 3: first i would look into the leads and compile them into a post for everyone then look in depth at said leads before lynching a player a player which is scummy and I have the leads to back me up.
However if someone does something similar I would Sheep the player he lynched if I can't get my own reads of the leads.
I would then hammer said player

I think that is right

Penier selected Toussant L'Ouverturer (5 [L-6]).

That falls into situation 1. I think.

Napoleon Bonaparte, Galbaud went to vote Anacona.

Mackandal went no where.

And that is all citizen claimers.

Do you think penier kept his own pattern?

[Alexandre Petion]

@Alexandre Petion I am typically very sad that you were not here day 1.

1. I restated that we have a busdriver to say that we shouldn't fear to out a possible mason.

This was a response to Boukman, who stated couple times that he do not know what to do and cast the sad scenario of a mason claim....eventually he sheeped the vote anyway...

2. Some of it is related to the information I have at hand. However, Hedouville might think the same.

My trust has something to do with day 1 and night 1, but I trust those ones for now at least.

You do not have to worry that I would vote you at the moment.

I believe no one will vote you today, visually no one.


3. The votes are not strong and effective.

As you see citizens are fighting each other. Napoleon went "lol, I'm out for day 3." after accusing others for no votings. He voted Anacona. Penier did his part as what he stated day 1., but splited voting on to Toussant L'Ouverturer.

One thing I really worried is: If they could no stay together when they are all town-side. How will we catch them if they are cultist?

1. Ok. Just making sure of what you meant. I was going to point that out again later for pretty much the same reason.

2. So you are claiming to have been involved in the Mind Meld? If that's what you are doing, Hedouville was opposed to anyone else revealing. If not, I'm not sure what your sources or info is. I just wanted your thoughts on the people.

I am not/was not concerned about myself being voted :)

3. Personally if I was a citizen, I wouldn't necessarily feel obligated to vote with the other claimers. Just because someone is town (assuming they all are) doesn't mean they are smart voters. It takes more than that to be a leader.

You would catch them as a cultist the same way as any other. I figured since this setup is cult based we would be having more read walls early on to see what people are thinking about players. That way if there's any discrepancy later, we can observe the changes in opinions.

[Capois LaMort]

I am back. I read all.

@Capois LaMort
#367

Generally that means, I can not catch neutral killer from what I have.

My bad. About the pressure voting, I am also fairly suspicious of some of those who voted after me. More so because I only voted half-heartedly, since Monsieur Louverture is not even here to pressure.

[Peinier]

I think I kept my voteing pattern we have no real leads and no complicated leads and I first voted anacona who IMO is scummy but more people went to lynch toussant so I sheeped
my vote into him