Day IV: Unfinished Business

[Amber]

I will be here until around 11:30-12:00 my time (it is 10:30 right now)


We have until this time if anybody wants to come up with a better target.

[Janet]

Thelma (1): Roger
Olga (4): Gladys, Theodore, Alan, Matthew
Jesse (7): Jane, Nina, Velma, Thelma, Rosenberg, Delores, Candice
Nina (7 ): Chris, Amber, Joseph Bertrand

I'll be on tonight so I should be able to revote easily.

[Nina]

Joseph, do you want me to say my role?

[Jane]

I'm back.

Say your role.

[Thelma]

nina say it!

[Todd]

yes I do!

[Delores]

For future reference, when the mayor votes you, ROLE CLAIM.

[Nina]

I'm Coroner. Sonya was blocked Night II, and never said anything about it. I blocked a Grave Robber Night II.

[Jane]

...

[Delores]

Anyone cc?

[Janet]

How would a coroner know someone had been blocked?

[Nina]

I performed an autopsy on Lucy last night.

[Todd]

wait you blocked a grave robber? what kind of foul game mechanics are these

[Jane]

Completely read that wrong, disregard my previous dots.

I wouldn't mind hearing a claim from Sonya now.

Janet, it's from seeing the last target.

[Janet]

I'm 90% sure he's lying. Don't ask me how.

[Nina]

Night II, I performed an autopsy on the Stripper, and the Grave Robber decided to target the Stripper as well. Night III, I'm assuming the Grave Robber stole an ability, because I didn't block him.

[Nina]

Well, Sonya knows she was blocked. It's her decision to lie about it or not. I wanted to reveal tomorrow to see if Patrick was really attacked or not.

[Janet]

Nina is lying about the block.

[Amber]

I'm 90% sure he's lying. Don't ask me how.


Because there is no grave-robber on your team?

[Nina]

I want to hear Sonya.


It's also why I made this post.

[Ralph]

Because the consort was on her team?

[Janet]

I'm 90% sure he's lying. Don't ask me how.


Because there is no grave-robber on your team?


Alright fuck it yeah, we don't have a grave robber. It was obvious from day two anyhow.

[Nina]

I'm lying about which block? Me blocking the Grave Robber, or Patrick blocking Sonya Night II?

[Janet]

Everything.

[Amber]

I'm 90% sure he's lying. Don't ask me how.


Because there is no grave-robber on your team?


Alright fuck it yeah, we don't have a grave robber. It was obvious from day two anyhow.


Lol. I was waiting til you'd crack!

[Jane]

I don't buy this claim. I think we'll be safe lynching Nina.

[Delores]

I'm 90% sure he's lying. Don't ask me how.


Because there is no grave-robber on your team?


Alright fuck it yeah, we don't have a grave robber. It was obvious from day two anyhow.
Does the great mayor want anything else from us?


Are you orange or red?

[Nina]

How is my claim not believable? The only people that would know Sonya was blocked Night II would be Sonya, and the red Mafia, provided Sonya wasn't driven.

[Janet]

Vote Nina

Thelma (1): Roger
Olga (4): Gladys, Theodore, Alan, Matthew
Jesse (7): Jane, Nina, Velma, Thelma, Rosenberg, Delores, Candice
Nina (8 ): Chris, Amber, Joseph Bertrand, Janet

I feel so free now.

[Nina]

Assuming Sonya says she was blocked, what role could I be? Part of the Reapers, or Mafia?

[Janet]

You know what town. I just have this to say. You are all racist. Just because someone has super powers doesn't mean they go around killing people at nigh... oh I see.

[Todd]

ty for admitting cosig janet, I think we all knew it anyways. There could be a grave robber on orange mafia though, ralph is there one on your team?

The grave robber things seems like a really odd story to make up

[Ralph]

I'm not mafia.

[Janet]

Trust me she is lying. About everything. Its something I can't tell you.

[Delores]

Vigil, if we do kill you soul, you know who you can safely shot, but it might be better to save your shot.

[Todd]

Janet do you know what role orange mafia random is? Is that what you are saying

[Amber]

So Janet, Jesse is?

[Ralph]

Can we trust Janet's word? She might be culted to trying to force us to kill an innocent town.

[Delores]

We really need someone from orange to claim.
If not, Nina is still a safe lynch. That role is next to useless at the stage in the game.

[Amber]

The grave robber things seems like a really odd story to make up


That's why it's a good lie to make as your defense.

[Janet]

You know how I didn't reveal a result earlier? I told you I had checked Steve, the guy who died. I lied.

IT IS SO FREEING. Ugh, wow.

[Ralph]

How can that tell you if theres a graverober?

[Amber]

Ralph, I want a reveal from you right now.

It's going to make so many things about everybody else clearer.

[Delores]

That role stops him from robbing graves, see the role cards list.

[Delores]

I agree with Amber, you need to claim.

[Ralph]

I'm not mafia. I don't know anything about inner-mafia dealings. I'm also not cult and not beast.

Good enough?

[Amber]

Can the orange mafia please step forward?

[Amber]

I'm not mafia. I don't know anything about inner-mafia dealings. I'm also not cult and not beast.

Good enough?


Unless you are a priest, tell us what you are.

[Ralph]

Unless you are a priest, tell us what you are.


Lol, well then what happesn if I dont claim?

[Ralph]

Fine shit no. Pretending that will get me killed.

I'm witch.

[Todd]

You know how I didn't reveal a result earlier? I told you I had checked Steve, the guy who died. I lied.

IT IS SO FREEING. Ugh, wow.


sharing is caring, who did you invest. Mafia needs to kill soul of the beast too ya know. Let me guess it was the orange random, you know that actually helps red mafia right?

[Delores]

lol, has anyone been witched?

[Janet]

That hurts. I DO CARE. About my team. I'll share with them.

Witch Ralph? Huh.

[Janet]

Dats cool. You can hang.

[Amber]

Start telling us who you've witched.

[Ralph]

I witched William on night 1. Then I stopped doing it to hide.

[Theodore]

Soul of the Beast Hunt

*Remember that everyone is a suspect*

Jesse - Claimed Amnesiac but is likely mafia because Janet is defending him.
Phillip - Town according to Amber who didn't call him out after investigating him. He is unlikely to be the Beast if Amber is an investigating role.
Matthew - States he got the same role as in FM 3: http://www.thecouncilofmages.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=1199; The Soul of the Beast was not in previous FMs, but he could be lying.
Roger - Sends a stupid town vibe to me, probably not the beast.
Jerry - Doesn't say much, he could be the Beast.
Thomas - Screams Mafia to me.
Olga - Claims Spree Killer, but could be faking Arsonist imo.
Amber - Claims an investigative role
Gladys - Unclear what to think of her
Chris - Town vibes
Alan - Claims Vig
Rosenberg - I got an innocent result, that doesn't rule out Beast. He says we will know his role tommorow-- We should bring him up on that.
Sonya - Seems very town to me, that's all I can say at this point.
Delores - Intentionally misspells words to appear as if she is someone else, don't have a good read on her role.
Theodore - Me, the Cop. To you, maybe executioner.
Jane - 90% mafia, I can't say 100% because there is still the framer variable.
Thelma - Claims cit, asks to be recruited
Nina - Claims a town power role
Joseph Bertrand (Todd)
Ralph - Defends Jesse; likely mafia
Janet - Claims investigator
Emerald - Town Vibes
Velma - Claims Busdriver
Candice - Sends off neutral/town vibes, could be the dark horse Soul of the Beast

Very Unlikely to be the Beast
1) Velma
2) Janet
3) Amber
4) Jane
5) Theodore(Me)
6) Todd(obviously)
7) Alan
8) Philip
9) Thomas

Moderately Unlikely to be the Beast:
1) Sonya
2) Emerald
3) Delores
4) Gladys
5) Chris
6) Roger
7) Matthew
8) Ralph
9) Jesse
10) Rosenberg

Likely to be the Beast:
1) Olga
2) Thelma
3) Nina
4) Candice

Town is on the right track. Do not end Day yet. I need to make a disguiser check and add to this list.

[Delores]

I haven't heard of anyone being witch, have you guys?

Anyone else claim a neutral role?

[Velma]

Jesse - target claims Amnesiac, doesnt prove? Hes dead tomorrow.
Phillip - claims cit/target
Matthew - Invest target
Roger - target
Jerry -target
Thomas -claims vig
Olga -claims spree killer, someone needs to shoot her tonight
Amber - Invest
Gladys - target
Chris - Target(Talks, don't kill, can claim)
Alan - Vig
Rosenberg - Target(Talks, don't kill, can claim)
Sonya - Suggested Grave Robber, who knows. Target (Talks, dont shoot, can claim)
Delores - Target (Talks, dont shoot, can claim)
Theodore - Claims Cop
Jane -Target (Talks, dont shoot, can claim)
Thelma - Claimed Cit, PRIESTS ON HER
Nina -Claims Coroner
Joseph Bertrand (Todd)- Mayor
Ralph - Target (Talks, can claim, dont shoot)
Janet -Mafia
Emerald - Target (Talks can claimd, dont shoot)
Velma -Bus Driver, GIVE VEST PLOX.
Candice -Target (Talks, can claim, shont shoot)

In Summary, VEST ON ME PLOX, DOC ANTI TOXIN ON MAYOR PLOX, PRIEST ON THELMA PLOX, also Priest claim now.
Invest some of the lurkers, OR invest theodore to prove hes not beast.

Targets:
Candice
Emerald
Ralph
Nina
Jane
Delores
Sonya
Rosenberg
Chris
Gladys
Roger
Matthew
Jerry
Olga
Jesse

EXCEPT FOR THE LAST TWO, YOU PEOPLE NEED TO CLAIM OR MAY FEEL THE WRATH OF MAFIA/VIGS

[Delores]

8) good job Theodore.

[Delores]

You always want more, Velma.

[Velma]

take Nina and Ralph to the bottom of those lists, they dont need to claim anymore.

[Theodore]

wow, that was a lot of posts... Take Ralph off of suspects and add Nina to VERY LIKELY suspect.

[Velma]

You always want more, Velma.


ohai armorsmith

Taking DELORES to no longer need to claim

[Velma]

unless i took that wrong...

[Delores]

Day 2 page nine, I think.

[Ralph]

Emerald, Gladys, Roger, Rosenburg.

The people from the middle of Theodore's list. Those are the ones I think are truly dangerous.

[Theodore]

Emerald, Gladys, Roger, Rosenburg.

The people from the middle of Theodore's list. Those are the ones I think are truly dangerous.

That may very well be the case.

[Delores]

Day three page nine, srry.
Notice who I was talking too.

[Jane]

Oh wow, I didn't see an armorsmith confirmation.

Nina cannot be coroner.

[Janet]

Yeah the middle list is interesting. Matthew interests me for various reasons. Chris is hard for me to read at any rate. Maybe others have had better success.

[Amber]

Theodore has implicated Jane as mafia.
So if Theodore is Sheriff than neither of them are the Beast.

An easy way to confirm that Theodore is sheriff would be if Janet could confirm Jane is on the red team. If Jane is on the orange team this is problematic.

[Jane]

Wait, never mind, I somehow didn't notice that armorsmith was a confirmed role.

[Todd]

Why is candice on the likely list? just curious

[Amber]

Candice is very keen to keep under the radar while appearing active. She could be anything.

[Nina]

I'd like Sonya and Candice to claim.

[Delores]

Proof pls

Oh wow, I didn't see an armorsmith confirmation.

Nina cannot be coroner.


Yes, I am the armorsmith, and I would like to be bussed around so I don't die. Was kinda hoping you'd would keep that to yourself, but owells.
BTW, I may or may not give you a vest. The mayor has revealed you know.

[Nina]

And to Sonya: I want a full explanation why you told the Town you were driven or drugged Night I, but failed to mention you were blocked Night II.

[Amber]

Jane we have a Sheriff confirmed mafia read on you. For the good of us all, please come out and admit your role.

[Theodore]

Soul of the Beast Hunt

*Remember that everyone is a suspect*

Jesse - Claimed Amnesiac but is likely mafia because Janet is defending him.
Phillip - Town according to Amber who didn't call him out after investigating him. He is unlikely to be the Beast if Amber is an investigating role.
Matthew - States he got the same role as in FM 3: http://www.thecouncilofmages.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=1199; The Soul of the Beast was not in previous FMs, but he could be lying.
Roger - Sends a stupid town vibe to me, probably not the beast.
Jerry - Doesn't say much, he could be the Beast.
Thomas - Screams Mafia to me.
Olga - Claims Spree Killer, but could be faking Arsonist imo.
Amber - Claims an investigative role
Gladys - Unclear what to think of her
Chris - Town vibes
Alan - Claims Vig
Rosenberg - I got an innocent result, that doesn't rule out Beast. He says we will know his role tommorow-- We should bring him up on that.
Sonya - Seems very town to me, that's all I can say at this point.
Delores - Claims Armorsmith; is confirmed by Velma the BD.
Theodore - Me, the Cop. To you, maybe executioner.
Jane - 90% mafia, I can't say 100% because there is still the framer variable.
Thelma - Claims cit, asks to be recruited
Nina - Claims Coroner, but is refuted by Janet's mafia
Joseph Bertrand (Todd)
Ralph - Claims Witch
Janet - Claims Consigliere
Emerald - Town Vibes
Velma - Claims Busdriver
Candice - Sends off neutral/town vibes, could be the dark horse Soul of the Beast

Very Unlikely to be the Beast
1) Velma
2) Janet
3) Amber
4) Jane
5) Theodore(Me)
6) Todd(obviously)
7) Alan
8) Philip
9) Delores

Moderately Unlikely to be the Beast:
1) Sonya
2) Emerald
3) Gladys
4) Chris
5) Roger
6) Matthew
7) Ralph (No one really claimed they were witched)
8) Jesse
9) Thomas
10) Rosenberg

Likely to be the Beast:
1) Olga
2) Thelma
3) Nina
4) Candice
5) Jerry

Updated. I say we call out Jerry for the Beast.

[Amber]

We need to brainstorm more ways to narrow down this list

[Nina]

I agree completely with Theodore's top five, minus myself.

[Theodore]

Jane we have a Sheriff confirmed mafia read on you. For the good of us all, please come out and admit your role.

She did.


Oh wow, I didn't see an armorsmith confirmation.

Nina cannot be coroner.

She is red mafia with Janet the Consigliere.

[Theodore]

-vote Jerry

[Amber]

Wait wouldn't that make her orange mafia?

[Nina]

Just in case anyone still does not understand: I AM THE CORONER. NOBODY ELSE WILL CLAIM. SONYA WILL ADMIT SHE WAS BLOCKED UNLESS SHE'S MAFIA. The ONLY POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE is that I'm a Reaper or whatever the other faction is with Sonya.

[Delores]

I say we lynch one, vigil kills one, and the invests/consigs check another two.
Mafia can killl the somewhat susp, or the might try for me, Velma, the mayor, or amber.

[Amber]

Why are you voting for Jerry when all the mafia are saying Nina is lying?

[Todd]

Red Mafia, how do you know Nina is lying? please elaborate!

[Amber]

I say we lynch one, vigil kills one, and the invests/consigs check another two.
Mafia can killl the somewhat susp, or the might try for me, Velma, the mayor, or amber.


Surely they won't target me given that I have information on the Soul to release tomorrow?

I am far more afraid of the cult.

[Nina]

I don't know if the Grave Robber is on the red or orange mafia, as I was not told. I reviewed Drug Dealer and made sure that the Grave Robber block fake wasn't a possibility, just in case.

[Theodore]

Wait wouldn't that make her orange mafia?

No, because Janet said they don't have a Grave Robber on their team; now Jane is saying so as well.

[Delores]

I say we lynch one, vigil kills one, and the invests/consigs check another two.
Mafia can killl the somewhat susp, or the might try for me, Velma, the mayor, or amber.


Surely they won't target me given that I have information on the Soul to release tomorrow?

I am far more afraid of the cult.
good point.

[Janet]

Red Mafia, how do you know Nina is lying? please elaborate!


I've already told you so much.

[Delores]

So Nina is our target for today?

[Amber]

Wait wouldn't that make her orange mafia?

No, because Janet said they don't have a Grave Robber on their team; now Jane is saying so as well.


You are assuming Nina is telling the truth. There is no evidence there even is a grave-robber.

[Jane]

Jane we have a Sheriff confirmed mafia read on you. For the good of us all, please come out and admit your role.


If I must.

I'm a medic. Night 1 I protected Delores because I thought she could have been a potential target with all of her fruit posts. Night 2 I protected Patrick because he seemed pretty pro-town day 1 and I wasn't sure what to make of Theodore anymore. Night 3 I protected Velma because she's the bus driver.

My previous post was because Armorsmith + Me + Vig#2 + Bus Driver accounts for all 4 random power roles, but I didn't notice that the Armorsmith was confirmed somehow.

[Theodore]

So Nina is our target for today?

We still need to hear from Jerry, Candice, and Olga a bit more.

[Amber]

wtf.

[Ralph]

Why would doc reveal? Really dumb.

[Jane]

You guys wanted me to claim.

[Amber]

Jane we have a Sheriff confirmed mafia read on you. For the good of us all, please come out and admit your role.

My previous post was because Armorsmith + Me + Vig#2 + Bus Driver accounts for all 4 random power roles, but I didn't notice that the Armorsmith was confirmed somehow.


I am confused by this reasoning. The 2nd investigator is the other power role. Coroner is a confirmed role also.

[Delores]

You know, Jane that coroner is a confirmed role as well, right?
He did claim healed if I'm correct.

[Amber]

This is not making any sense. Somebody is still lying.

[Jane]

...I guess I'm just retarded then. I didn't read the roles list carefully enough.

Sorry guys.

[Janet]

This is not making any sense. Somebody is still lying.


People are assuming we will get the soul already I think.

[Amber]

The situation reads as follows:

Theodore says Jane is mafia.
Jane says she is town.
They both can be town in the event that the orange team has a framer.
If the orange team has a framer, then there is no Grave Robber.
If there is no Grave Robber, Nina is lying.

Atleast 1 of these 3 people is lying to us.

[Jane]

Framing comes before killing, so the dead Orange framer probably framed me before he was killed.

[Ralph]

Jane is 100% lying.

[Todd]

ya but what are the odds he sucessfully framed twice

[Ralph]

Fuck it. This is probably bad play, but I think we need as much clarity as possible right now.

I'm the doctor, not Jane.

[Delores]

Who did you heal, now.

[Todd]

btw could I get a vest so if we find the soul I can survive to help town lynch the mafia?

[Velma]

Delores, give the mayor a vest... youll be very happy.

[Amber]

OKAY.

New situation.

Either Ralph or Jane is lying.

98% sure it is Jane lying.

Point 2. Why is Jane lying? She has a positive sheriff check so is she still playing pro-mafia instead of pro-life?

[Theodore]

Cole MacGrath [MacGrath]
Zeke Dunbar [MacGrath] - Janet
Random Conduit [MacGrath] - Jane

Enforcer [Vermaak 88]
Random Conduit [Vermaak 88] - Thomas?

Soul of The Beast - ?????????
Sasha (Reaper Leader) - ????
Random Killing Neutral - Olga?
Random Neutral - ???
Random Neutral - Jesse?

Joseph Bertrand- Todd
Cop - Me
Coroner - Nina? (I think she may be referring to a Graver Robber on the ORANGE MAFIA)
Militia Extremist - Alan
Armorsmith - Delores
Priest - Probably in the middle of my list
Vigilante(Random) - Thomas?
Busdriver(Random) - Velma
Investigator(Random) - Amber
Medic(Random) - Ralph(I believe this 100%)
Citizen - Thelma
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

DO NOT VOTE NINA YET, THERE MAY BE A GRAVE ROBBER ON ORANGE MAFIA SO SHE MAY NOT BE LYING. ALSO, NO ONE CC'd!!!

[Todd]

theodore check jesse tonight, we need a lynch target because i have school in the morning and need to go to bed soon

[Delores]

That's alittle risky you know.

[Amber]

Negative. Give the vest to Velma.

[Ralph]

I healed Olga night 1. Experience teaches me that the mafia picks targets that haven't spoken much on day 1, and Olga was about 3/4 the way down the list.

I healed Patrick night 2. I thought he had dropped some subtle "I'm investigator" hints during the day. Presumably the orange mafia thought so too, which is why they hit him.

Last night I anti-culted Velma, because I figured that she'd be huge cult bait either as arson or bus driver. (The cult didn't attempt to recruit her last night.)

[Delores]

I believe Ralph over Jane 99% now.

[Ralph]

Btw, what the hell is Jane up to?

Dammit, I wish I hadn't claimed.

[Ralph]

I'm getting culted for sure tonight.

[Theodore]

UNLESS SOMEONE COUNTER-CLAIMS CORONER, NINA IS INNOCENT.

The best targets right now are Sonya, Jerry, and Candice.

[Delores]

Velma already has a vest.

[Amber]

This is odd though.

Because Janet can confirm that Jane is not from the red mafia.

Therefore Jane must be of the orange mafia. Therefore Jane knows whether or not there is a Grave Robber on her team. If there is no grave robber then Nina is lying.

[Todd]

Ok I've narrowed it down to voting olga or candice before we go to bed, could we pull off a lynch of candice before the night ends?

[Delores]

You dont know what he intends to do, do you.
Doc heal/anti cult me.

[Velma]

then its decided -vote Nina

[Amber]

CONFESS JANE, CONFESS.

[Ralph]

Jane, you've been caught in your lie. If you're mafia, come clean now & help us kill the beast. It's your only chance.

[Todd]

unless i hear the reasoning on nina lying

[Amber]

Velma, can I count on you to save me tonight?

[Velma]

RALPH
HEAL JANE

[Nina]

Ok I've narrowed it down to voting olga or candice before we go to bed, could we pull off a lynch of candice before the night ends?


We probably could, with your help.

[Velma]

wait wait wait, everything is happeneing to fast

[Janet]

UNLESS SOMEONE COUNTER-CLAIMS CORONER, NINA IS INNOCENT.


I assure you that Nina is indeed lying. I suppose that doesn't mean she is the soul. But she is lying.

Or perhaps coroner simply isn't around to cc?

[Amber]

RALPH
HEAL JANE


WHAT?

[Theodore]

I healed Olga night 1. Experience teaches me that the mafia picks targets that haven't spoken much on day 1, and Olga was about 3/4 the way down the list.

I healed Patrick night 2. I thought he had dropped some subtle "I'm investigator" hints during the day. Presumably the orange mafia thought so too, which is why they hit him.

Last night I anti-culted Velma, because I figured that she'd be huge cult bait either as arson or bus driver. (The cult didn't attempt to recruit her last night.)

Ralph, I would like to request an anti-cult on me tonight. I'm better dead than culted. Do not heal anyone tonight, we actually need more deaths this time around.

[Delores]

I'd say Candice or Olga our are best bets.


lol at Velma.

[Velma]

OKAY DOC, anti-cult Delores.

Ill protect Amber or Ralph, havent decided yet.

WHAT ABOUT FUCKING ROGER!?

[Amber]

Theodore cannot both be the Sheriff and believe Nina is innocent.
The two are mutually exclusive now given what we know.

Unless Jane is trolling.

[Nina]

Amber, you can investigate me tonight, if you want.

-vote Candice

[Janet]

Theodore cannot both be the Sheriff and believe Nina is innocent.
The two are mutually exclusive now given what we know.

Unless Jane is trolling.


Explain?

[Delores]

Listen to Velma.

[Amber]

OKAY DOC, anti-cult Delores.

Ill protect Amber or Ralph, haven't decided yet.

WHAT ABOUT FUCKING ROGER!?


You don't want me on the cult team. They will use my powers for evil :(

Doc should anti-cult mayor. It's acceptable if he dies, but it will be catastrophic if he is culted and retains his powers for 2 days.

[Ralph]

Velma, do you recognize my COM identity?

[Velma]

FUCK YOU CULT

[Velma]

Velma, do you recognize my COM identity?


Inca?

[Theodore]

UNLESS SOMEONE COUNTER-CLAIMS CORONER, NINA IS INNOCENT.


I assure you that Nina is indeed lying. I suppose that doesn't mean she is the soul. But she is lying.

Or perhaps coroner simply isn't around to cc?

Is Jane on your Mafia team? She could be on Orange Mafia which has a Grave Robber on their team, could she not? Then Nina wouldn't be lying.

[Ralph]

Nope, nevermind. I was hoping to work out a way to coordinate our actions, but I don't think it's going to work.

[Janet]

You missed the N key Velma.

[Velma]

What are protective roles?

Me and Doc

Doc is a guaranteed anti cult, and I can push off a possible cult onto someone that doesnt matter.

[Amber]

Theodore cannot both be the Sheriff and believe Nina is innocent.
The two are mutually exclusive now given what we know.

Unless Jane is trolling.


Explain?


Theodore says Jane is mafia. You would tell us if she is red mafia I assume?

If she is not red mafia, she is orange mafia. If she is orange mafia she knows whether or not there's a grave robber and subsequently she knows whether or not Nina is lying.

If Theodore believes in his read on Jane then he must believe that there is no Grave Robber and that Nina is lying.

[Delores]

Oh, I'm MrSmarter.
Just an fyi

[Janet]

UNLESS SOMEONE COUNTER-CLAIMS CORONER, NINA IS INNOCENT.


I assure you that Nina is indeed lying. I suppose that doesn't mean she is the soul. But she is lying.

Or perhaps coroner simply isn't around to cc?

Is Jane on your Mafia team? She could be on Orange Mafia which has a Grave Robber on their team, could she not? Then Nina wouldn't be lying.


I'm not gonna say who is or isn't on my team. Policy. Like Israel denying the Mossad does anything policy.

[Todd]

I think Ralph is getting culted tonight, If I were cult leader I would go for ralph anywys.

-vote candice

I'll be back once to check before I go to bed and lynch who we can.

[Jane]

I guess I'll just have to be the hero this town needs.

There is no graverobber.

[Amber]

What are protective roles?

Me and Doc

Doc is a guaranteed anti cult, and I can push off a possible cult onto someone that doesnt matter.


If you let the cult take the mayor then it's the daytime we'll need to be afraid of not the night time?

[Theodore]

Oh, I'm MrSmarter.
Just an fyi

I'm pretty sure you are Philie faking MrSmarter, but does it matter?

[Amber]

I guess I'll just have to be the hero this town needs.

There is no graverobber.


What colour are you Jane?

[Delores]

So we are going with Candice?

Yes, I am MrSmarter, and no, it dose not really matter.

[Gladys]

If that were true, then Elixir would come in on that and fix it. If I'm correct, you lie about who you are, you will be corrected.

[Theodore]

I guess I'll just have to be the hero this town needs.

There is no graverobber.

Orange Mafia Claim. Nina is likely lying at this point, but we can't lynch her until we get a counter claim, especially because we are going on the word of a couple of mafias.

[Nina]

OK so we are assuming that THREE THINGS that prove I am Coroner are false:

1. I happened to pick a role that the real Coroner isn't around to counterclaim;
2. I revealed a Mafia role that a supposed Mafia is claiming doesn't exist;
3. Sonya wasn't blocked somehow.

[Delores]

If that were true, then Elixir would come in on that and fix it. If I'm correct, you lie about who you are, you will be corrected.
night chat only.

[Theodore]

So we are going with Candice?

Yes, I am MrSmarter, and no, it dose not really matter.

tryhard much? Anyway, I nominate Candice or Jerry for the lynch.

[Amber]

I guess I'll just have to be the hero this town needs.

There is no graverobber.

Orange Mafia Claim. Nina is likely lying at this point, but we can't lynch her until we get a counter claim, especially because we are going on the word of a couple of mafias.


We have to make assumptions.

Assumption 1. The mafia don't want to die as much as we don't want to die. If they let us lynch the Coroner then it may as well be gg for them too.

Possibility 2: Coroner is AFK or pussy afraid to reveal.

[Ralph]

I'm ok with Candice. Let me go through her posts one more time to see if there's anything I missed.

[Delores]

Well I'll cast my vote with the mayor.
Vote Candice

[Amber]

I would be okay with Candice too, but SOMETHING is up with this Theodore, Jane, Nina thing.

[Todd]

or coroner isn't online. Anyways I am going to go and say we caught nina in a lie and i want to hear a defence from candice

-unvote candice
-vote nina

someone update the vote count, I am getting ready for bed

[Janet]

I'm sure Nina lied, not sure that it means she is beast. Big wifom territory.

What is the case on Candice again? We need to move quickly btw.

[Nina]

PLEASE UNDERSTAND: I AM NOT LYING.

[Elixir]

Thelma (1): Roger
Olga (3): Gladys Alan, Matthew
Jesse (5): Jane, Thelma, Rosenberg, Delores, Candice
Nina (9 ): Chris, Amber, Joseph Bertrand, Janet, Velma
Jerry (1) Theodore
Candice (2) Nina, Delores

Keep this updated. I dont want to have to do this again.

Lynch is at 13

You have 5.5 hours.

[Amber]

Janet, revised targets to investigate?

Are you still going with Mathew?
I am sticking with Jerry.

[Jane]

The case on Candice is that she's pretty scummy.

How, exactly, are you not lying?

[Theodore]

Please, stay up a little big longer. I would prefer to lynch after more people sign into the Day. I really want a Coroner counterclaim and I want people like Candice and Sonya and Jerry to speak up. Also, we need to plan out night actions. I will make an upcoming post to suggest some.

[Nina]

How am I lying? We are assuming Janet is Consig on red Mafia?

Theodore: You won't get a Coroner counterclaim. (Incoming Candice claiming Coroner)

[Delores]

.....
Invests can check Nina, Candice is a big unknowen however.

[Gladys]

I'm game for almost anything at this point. Seeing as I'm back from work, and have caught up, I'd like to go with the most likely to be lynched seeing as we have VERY FEW hours to do so. I don't think that the beast would claim Coroner, as a simple investigation upon suspicion would prove otherwise. Ordinarily, I'd vote for Nina. In this case I'd rather stick with Candice. I've given up on the Olga thing.

-unvote Olga
-vote Candice

[Ralph]

I think we should go for Candice, not Nina.

[Delores]

I agree, my vote stands.

[Amber]

To the cult. Don't recruit me. You don't want me. By the end of tomorrow everybody's roles will be revealed anyway and I'll be useless to you or the town.

[Velma]

ralph, who are you. You know who I am.

[Ralph]

-vote Candice

Thelma (1): Roger
Olga (3): Gladys Alan, Matthew
Jesse (5): Jane, Thelma, Rosenberg, Delores, Candice
Nina (9 ): Chris, Amber, Joseph Bertrand, Janet, Velma
Jerry (1) Theodore
Candice (4) Nina, Delores, Gladys, Ralph

[Theodore]

How am I lying? We are assuming Janet is Consig on red Mafia?

Theodore: You won't get a Coroner counterclaim. (Incoming Candice claiming Coroner)

You can't claim coroner and expect to live 2 consecutive days if you are the beast. Candice wouldn't do that if she was the beast.

I really want Candice to speak up. Mayor can you switch your vote to Candice please, I think it is more likely we will be able to lynch Nina if needed because of the amount of votes on her already. Therefore, we should at least pressure another suspect.

-vote Candice

Thelma (1): Roger
Olga (3): Gladys Alan, Matthew
Jesse (5): Jane, Thelma, Rosenberg, Delores, Candice
Nina (9 ): Chris, Amber, Joseph Bertrand, Janet, Velma
Candice (5) Nina, Delores, Gladys, Ralph, Theodore

[Janet]

Amber: Don't bother investing Phillip, Jerry, Nina, Sonya or Jane. I might or might not have checked some of them. Nina is lying for sure. But I'm going to lean on not beast.

I will check her tonight. Then we will know.

-unvote Nina
-vote Candice

If the mayor doesn't come back I will switch back to Nina so we lynch period.

Thelma (1): Roger
Olga (3): Gladys Alan, Matthew
Jesse (5): Jane, Thelma, Rosenberg, Delores, Candice
Nina (8 ): Chris, Amber, Joseph Bertrand, Velma
Candice (6) Nina, Delores, Janet, Gladys, Ralph, Theodore

[Velma]

okay \Delores, Vest me. Ralph Heal Mayor, Ill bus either Ralph or Delores. That way the protective roles arent under threat.
Invests are near useless at this point.

[Janet]

*for colors Vote Candice

[Nina]

I'm open to ANYONE Investigating me. I have nothing to hide.

[Amber]

Going to the gym back in a couple of hours to finalise my vote then.

[Rosenberg]

Just got back let me read from page 9 up

[Velma]

-vote Candice

Thelma (1): Roger
Olga (3): Gladys Alan, Matthew
Jesse (5): Jane, Thelma, Rosenberg, Delores, Candice
Nina (7): Chris, Amber, Joseph Bertrand
Candice (7) Nina, Delores, Janet, Gladys, Ralph, Theodore, Velma

[Delores]

Doc should anti cult, xnot heal.

[Nina]

We need two completely different plans at this point: One if the person we lynch is not the Soul, and one if the person we lynch is.

[Ralph]

Actually, Velma, I'm afraid I don't know who you are. I'm not very good at tracking these things (or at least not very motivated to, usually). I don't suppose it matters at this point, anyways.

[Todd]

I'm still up, I feel like being the hammer though so I'm going to wait a bit before voting candice

[Delores]

It's L-6, one vote to mayor hammer.

[Ralph]

Don't hammer till we've worked out more plans for tonight.

[Velma]

Actually, Velma, I'm afraid I don't know who you are. I'm not very good at tracking these things (or at least not very motivated to, usually). I don't suppose it matters at this point, anyways.


Deathfire123, someone already ratted me out, Delores I think.

[Theodore]

If the person doesn't flip Soul:
Velma the Bus Driver bus Bertrand to protect him
Doc ANTI-CULT Velma the Bus Driver

Janet the Consigliere check Jerry
Amber the Investigator check Sonya

Orange Mafia(Jane) Kill someone on the middle of my list
Red Mafia(Janet) Kill someone on the middle of my list

Priest try to recruit Thelma.

I will check Thomas.

Please specify who you want to kill before Day ends.

Everyone please agree to this, I think this is the best possible course of action.

If the person does flip Soul:
Mafia will do whatever they want, so it doesn't matter. I think town should do the same thing.

[Delores]

Don't look at me, I'm thinking that was in Yvettes will.

[Rosenberg]

I just saw that you narrowed down the random neutrals. I said i was going to reveal tomorrow because I am amnesiac. lynch me or lynch jesse. You get the info any way you want

[Velma]

right, it was Yvette

[Delores]

If the person doesn't flip Soul:
Velma the Bus Driver bus Bertrand to protect him
Doc ANTI-CULT Velma the Bus Driver

Janet the Consigliere check Jerry
Amber the Investigator check Sonya

Orange Mafia(Jane) Kill someone on the middle of my list
Red Mafia(Janet) Kill someone on the middle of my list

Priest try to recruit Thelma.

I will check Thomas.

Please specify who you want to kill before Day ends.

Everyone please agree to this, I think this is the best possible course of action.

If the person does flip Soul:
Mafia will do whatever they want, so it doesn't matter. I think town should do the same thing.
Cult will recuit the doc. Bus driver need to be left up to his own chocie.

[Velma]

wow Rosenberg, you may have brought back the Jesse train.

[Todd]

I'm McPwnage, i got ratted out by yvette before she got lynched. Apparently I make a common grammar mistake which gave away my COM, honestly I don't double check grammar when I post on the internets but I really want to know what that is.

[Ralph]

Rosenberg, become the medic tonight to prove who you are.

[Nina]

Joseph, make sure you let us know before you go offline. We don't want to get stuck with no lynch at all.

[Delores]

I just saw that you narrowed down the random neutrals. I said i was going to reveal tomorrow because I am amnesiac. lynch me or lynch jesse. You get the info any way you want
If you are what you say you are, take the doc.

[Rosenberg]

I will

[Velma]

JESSE BECOME THE STRIPPER, ROSENBERG BECOME THE MEDIC, we will find the liar this way.

[Rosenberg]

If the witch claim is correct, then jesse is lying though, the witch claim may be the lie

[Theodore]

I just saw that you narrowed down the random neutrals. I said i was going to reveal tomorrow because I am amnesiac. lynch me or lynch jesse. You get the info any way you want

This is easy. If you are Amnesiac take the detective role, if Jesse is Amnesiac he will take the Stripper role. We don't have to lynch you to know who is lying.

[Delores]

Are we going ahead with Candice or not?
Vigi kill the witch. Problem solved.

[Ralph]

No, take doc, not detective.

[Rosenberg]

thank you for being understandable and reasonable, I don't want to lose my first fm game

[Theodore]

I mean doc for Rosenberg.

[Velma]

wait a.....I HAVE AN IDEA!

JESSE, ROSENBERG, BOTH TAKE THE MEDIC!

Then Amber, Invest Jesse

Since invest comes after amnesiac change, then you know if he was lying or not.

That way, we also know if there are two amnesiacs(on the off chance)

[Ralph]

Who is the witch, Delores?

(The fact that Rosenberg posted a claim before reading all the way through is a good sign for him. He's not worried about coming up with a lie that fits what we know.)

[Velma]

wait a.....I HAVE AN IDEA!

JESSE, ROSENBERG, BOTH TAKE THE MEDIC!

Then Amber, Invest Jesse

Since invest comes after amnesiac change, then you know if he was lying or not.

That way, we also know if there are two amnesiacs(on the off chance)


Quoting because genius plan is genius

[Theodore]

Are we going ahead with Candice or not?
Vigi kill the witch. Problem solved.

There may be no witch, Ralph is the Doc remember...

[Nina]

Are there any roles Candice can even claim at this point? Citizen?

[Ralph]

DO NOT FOLLOW VELMA'S PLAN.
If there are two amnesiacs, we'll know because we get both a stripper and a doc.

[Janet]

He said he didn't read all the way through yes. I think we don't need to invest either of them. They should prove themselves by tomorrow or we lynch.

[Velma]

WHATS MORE HELPFUL? TWO DOCS, Or a STRIPPER and a DOC?

TWO FUCKING DOCS

[Delores]

Are there any roles Candice can even claim at this point? Citizen?
Priest

[Nina]

Priest would counterclaim in one second.

[Velma]

wait, fine,

JESSE ----> STRIPPER
ROSENBERG -----> MEDIC

No need to waste an invest

[Janet]

Look. I'm not sure whats going on with the neutral mess. We have so many things to keep track of using both our invests to determine something when we don't need either is a bad plan.

[Rosenberg]

This plan falls apart if the cult has the enforcer though as he can mess me up on my role change.

[Velma]

amnesiacs, YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN YOUR ORDERS!

DOC, ANTI CULT ME

DELORES, VEST ME!

I'LL DRIVE Mayor

To Prove Delores isnt culted, VEST ME OR MAYOR EVERY NIGHT! If you do not, I will assume you are culted and will advise the town to lynch you.

[Ralph]

By the way, how sure are we that Alan is indeed the vigilante? All we have to go on is his claim, plus Brian's last will (which lied about Delores).

If you are the vigi who killed the people Alan claimed to kill, please shoot him tonight. If you're the other vigi (i.e. you didn't target the people he says he did), please don't shoot him.

[Theodore]

If the person doesn't flip Soul:
Velma the Bus Driver bus Bertrand to protect him
Doc ANTI-CULT Velma the Bus Driver

Janet the Consigliere check Jerry
Amber the Investigator check Sonya

Vig(Alan) - Kill someone on the middle of my list
Vig2(???) - Kill someone on the middle of my list

Orange Mafia(Jane) Kill someone on the middle of my list
Red Mafia(Janet) Kill someone on the middle of my list

Priest try to recruit Thelma.

Amnesiac(Jesse) - Take Stripper
Amnesiac(Rosenberg) - Take Medic

I will check Thomas.

MAFIAS and Vigs: Please specify who you want to kill before Day ends.

If the person does flip Soul:
Mafia will do whatever they want, so it doesn't matter. I think town should do the above specified actions.

[Velma]

This plan falls apart if the cult has the enforcer though as he can mess me up on my role change.


That's suspicious.

[Delores]

Sounds fine to me.

[Janet]

Amber, who are you checking again? I say avoid the two possible amns and go for something else. I feel like a cat among a flock of birds. I honestly forgot what you are going for and don't want us to overlap.

[Todd]

ok -vote candice

I seriously have to go to bed but I am a bit reluctant about this considering candice isnt online for self defence

hold off the hammer until everything is clear

[Delores]

THIS IS L-1

[Rosenberg]

Some troll will come in and vote like last day.

[Velma]

PRIEST! FUCK YOU! CLAIM! If you're Candice, this plan falls apart.

[Janet]

Amber say it now before someone trolols. Say it and I'll do something else. We don't need to follow Theo's plan. We know we aren't the beast and were 99% but not really 100% on Theo. We should do our own thing.

[Ralph]

unvote

[Janet]

Phew, thanks Ralph. I should have done that.

[Delores]

Agreed, priest could be any of the unknowns.

[Ralph]

Thelma (1): Roger
Olga (3): Gladys Alan, Matthew
Jesse (5): Jane, Thelma, Rosenberg, Delores, Candice
Nina (7): Chris, Amber, Joseph Bertrand
Candice (11) Nina, Delores, Janet, Gladys, Theodore, Velma, Joseph Bertrand

[Theodore]

-unvote

Mayor, is gone so II think L-2 is a good place to stay until the Mafia and Alan tell us who they want to kill. I don't want overlapping kills.

[Delores]

Did Emerald ever role claim?

[Theodore]

Thelma (1): Roger
Olga (3): Gladys Alan, Matthew
Jesse (5): Jane, Thelma, Rosenberg, Delores, Candice
Nina (7): Chris, Amber, Joseph Bertrand
Candice (10) Nina, Delores, Janet, Gladys, Velma, Joseph Bertrand