S-FM 110: Half Life

[AppleyNO]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jKc5wz3Jgw&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL6PNZBb6b9LvDWpI-5CPYUxG1Rnm-vr9V
Full Set-up here - http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/16562-S-FM-Half-Life

Welcome Players


1. Slaol
2. 42Shadow42
3. RLVG
4. Banshis
5. Bunny
6. Cryptonic
7. Hypersniper
8. Poriomania
9. CarolinaCrown
10. Citrus
11. PowerofDeath
12. Noctiz

"Attention all Black Mesa Personal, a Resonance Cascade has been detected in Sector C. All personal eva.... Attention, this is the US Military, all Personal must comply with Military personal. All Persona..." *static*

This doesn't look good... who can you trust?


Roles List



Xen Forces
Nihilanth
Gonarch


Hazardous Environment Combat Unit
HECU Commander
Corporal Shepard

Black Mesa Personal
Gordon Freeman
Barney Calhoun
Black Mesa Security Guard
Black Mesa Security Guard
Black Mesa Security Guard
Black Mesa Security Guard
Scientist
Scientist


Graveyard


Empty


Day Zero


Day will end in 24 hours - http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=September+26th%2C+2013+8%3A00+GMT-5
7


Day One Start - http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/23194-S-FM-110-Half-Life?p=383525#post383525
Day Two Start - http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/23194-S-FM-110-Half-Life?p=384172#post384172

[powerofdeath]

Hello everyone, welcome to Half Life. I will be your tour guide.

[powerofdeath]

Let call the red mafia XF and the orange mafia HECU for short. It will save us a lot of time.

[CarolinaCrown]

Let call the red mafia XF and the orange mafia HECU for short. It will save us a lot of time.

Don't tell me what to do.

You know what? From now on I'm referring the Xen Forces and the Hazardous Environment Combat Unit only by their full names.

[powerofdeath]

In the Set up under feedbacks, there are dousing. What role douse people? I dont see any arsonist in this set up.

CarolinaCrown, I don't really care if you're gonna name them by their full name. I was just telling everyone that I will be using the shorter name and someone will not go What the fuck is XF?

[AppleyNO]

Lynch Code fixed, Wolfram link provided. Have Fun.

[AppleyNO]

In the Set up under feedbacks, there are dousing. What role douse people? I dont see any arsonist in this set up.
That is a fuck up. There is no arsonist nor any dousing.

[CarolinaCrown]

CarolinaCrown, I don't really care if you're gonna name them by their full name. I was just telling everyone that I will be using the shorter name and someone will not go What the fuck is XF?

Haha gotcha. I was just makin' a joooke.

[42shadow42]

Don't tell me what to do.

You know what? From now on I'm referring the Xen Forces and the Hazardous Environment Combat Unit only by their full names.

CarolinaCrown

[powerofdeath]

Well guys I am a doctor. A doctor of Physic.

[Poriomania]

42shadow42

[42shadow42]

OMG!!!!!! Powerofdeath, made a claim.

[CarolinaCrown]

Well guys I am a doctor. A doctor of Physic.

Will you do my Statistical Mechanics problem set?

[Poriomania]

im bored, someone entertain me

[42shadow42]

Will you do my Statistical Mechanics problem set?

I dislike this ^

[powerofdeath]

Now guys, this time I hope I can trust you not hammering me again before I even defend myself. Everyone should deserve fair trial and everyone should have a chance to defend themselves.

[42shadow42]

Now guys, this time I hope I can trust you not hammering me again before I even defend myself. Everyone should deserve fair trial and everyone should have a chance to defend themselves.

I gave you a wakeup call, its your fault you didn't wake up.

[42shadow42]

Anyways, I vote PoD as town leader for the moment, I'd also like to express my current opinion on carolina, but I won't explain until I've more information.

[Poriomania]

Anyways, I vote PoD as town leader for the moment, I'd also like to express my current opinion on carolina, but I won't explain until I've more information.

How do you know that PoD is town?

[42shadow42]

How do you know that PoD is town?

I don't, but that is irrelevant to his being leader atm.

[powerofdeath]

How do you know that PoD is town?

He doesn't. He just want me to lead at the moment.

[Poriomania]

He doesn't. He just want me to lead at the moment.

Fair enough.

still bored, still need entertaining

[42shadow42]

He doesn't. He just want me to lead at the moment.

Lol!

[42shadow42]

Fair enough.

still bored, still need entertaining

Entertainment for your pleasure! (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/23194-S-FM-110-Half-Life?p=383019&viewfull=1#post383019)

[42shadow42]

Hey guys what does IDK stand for?

[powerofdeath]

Knowing Appley, I think it is safe to assume there is an actress in game.
If anybody flipped town, it is possible that he was an actress instead.

Theoretical Physics sucks.... Even though I have Doctorate in it.
I have way to much homework...

[Poriomania]

im about to pull a rlvg

[powerofdeath]

Hey guys what does IDK stand for?

I Dont Know

[CarolinaCrown]

Knowing Appley, I think it is safe to assume there is an actress in game.
If anybody flipped town, it is possible that he was an actress instead.

Theoretical Physics sucks.... Even though I have Doctorate in it.
I have way to much homework...

Seriously please do my StatMech problems I am so confused

[42shadow42]

I Dont Know
:mad:

[CarolinaCrown]

Wait I'm Einstein I'm supposed to be Physics Genius

[powerofdeath]

I made a Great Discovery in Physic! (http://phys.org/news/2013-09-scientists-never-before-seen.html)

[Poriomania]

Hey, hey Carolina.

Are you scum?

[CarolinaCrown]

I made a Great Discovery in Physic! (http://phys.org/news/2013-09-scientists-never-before-seen.html)

This is actually fascinating, but I'm betting parts are exaggerated for journalistic effect.


Hey, hey Carolina.

Are you scum?

No.

[Poriomania]

Hm.

We'll see, then.

[Cryptonic]

Hello!!
Doc on me, please. I'm an important town power role! Thank you, greatly appreciated :smile:
powerofdeath
Only thing I have read is PoD softclaiming claiming citizen. Citizens give room for scum to hide, it's a decent day one lynch. Will read everything else in a few hours. Sorry, don't have much time right now. bbs

[42shadow42]

Hello!!
Doc on me, please. I'm an important town power role! Thank you, greatly appreciated :smile:
powerofdeath
Only thing I have read is PoD softclaiming claiming citizen. Citizens give room for scum to hide, it's a decent day one lynch. Will read everything else in a few hours. Sorry, don't have much time right now. bbs

Cryptonic

[Poriomania]

Cryptonic

Cryptonic

This is a legit wagon.

[Slaol]

fuck you guys one second give me a minute but stop tht timely shit waggoning
I have reason to believe you are all foolish so far.

[42shadow42]

fuck you guys one second give me a minute but stop tht timely shit waggoning
I have reason to believe you are all foolish so far.

That's the Slaol we all know :p

[Slaol]

So. I know a little bit about how AppleyNO balances games. Or should I say "Appley knows a bit about how I balance games."

Scum have 4 power roles: Town will have 4 power roles. Thus, Town also has 4 Citizens.
Scum has 2 KPN: Town will have 2 KPN. This is the lynch and the Vigilante that is 100% guaranteed.
Scum have 2 KPN: Town will have the ability to respond to 2 KPN.
- This will come in the form of 2 separate forms of response. Lookout/Doctor, which operate by hitting the target of the kill specifically.
- The other form is Bus Driver / Escort. These roles have trackable feedback and operate in a slightly less "protective" fashion to achieve their defense.
Scum have 1 Actress: AppleyNO fucking loves the Actress role. Like legit, loves it. This role is paired with a Consigliere that can feed the Actress which role he will be mimicing.
Scum have 1 Framer: Investigator is the only direct investigative role, and Framer is specific in ruining it's information. As well, this Framer will be paired with a Consort. Consorts are immune to role blocking so the Consort may act out a more secure kill while the Framer tries to succeed.

"Bus Driver / Escort" is an Escort. This will CC the Consort, and with the Actress also in play will be the multiple claim role for the game.
"Doctor / Lookout" is a Lookout. The invisibility that is about to hit the game in a Framer, Consig, Actress, Consort (that will be killing) we have been given a Lookout to track who specifically acted out a kill, or to detect movement in general.

Confirmed Roles list.

Consigliere
Actress

Framer
Consort

Investigator
Vigilante
Escort
Lookout
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

I'll post more later, but that is what we are looking at.
AppleyNO did tell me he is going to "random". But at an earlier time I had complained that his setup had too few Citizens, and his response nearly told me that more would roll out of the Hiddens to the point that it was what he considered "Balanced". Appley has the same mentality of balance as myself. Roles list confirmed.

[Slaol]

Cryptonic is town, and is likely the Vigilante. I suggest the Lookout watch him tonight.

[Cryptonic]

Cryptonic

You choose to vote me, a person claiming town power, over PoD, who's softclaiming citizen?
shadow, what kind of town wants to lynch someone claiming to be town power role without proof? scum, that's who. :)

[Slaol]

His saying he will read at a later time is a reference to having to act later. He controls 1/2 of Towns KPN, and that is the night kill.

[Cryptonic]

plus, pod softclaimed so he wouldn't die. What good is citizen at the end when it's 2 cits vs 1 mafia and they claim cit? I'd rather have a few power roles left around when that time comes.

gonna read what i missed now that i've responded.

[Poriomania]

Cryptonic is town, and is likely the Vigilante. I suggest the Lookout watch him tonight.

I don't think breadcrumbing a power role counts as insta-town behavior.

Quote the posts and tell me why you think he's town.

[Slaol]

His saying he will read at a later time is a reference to having to act later. He controls 1/2 of Towns KPN, and that is the night kill.

Here. He is Vig.

[Cryptonic]

ps, just so you guys know, slaol is one of these roles: Consigliere, Actress, Framer, Consort, Investigator, Vigilante, Escort, Lookout, Citizen

[Slaol]

ps, just so you guys know, slaol is one of these roles: Consigliere, Actress, Framer, Consort, Investigator, Vigilante, Escort, Lookout, Citizen

He is one of those roles.

[Poriomania]

Here. He is Vig.

I should bring these back.

X


Try again, please.

I don't consider power roles confirmed until they take action.

I can breadcrumb as many power roles as I wish during a game, but it doesn't actually force me to commit to something.

[Cryptonic]

He is one of those roles.

Yes.

[Slaol]

I should bring these back.

X


Try again, please.

I don't consider power roles confirmed until they take action.

I can breadcrumb as many power roles as I wish during a game, but it doesn't actually force me to commit to something.

Are you claiming Vigilante?

[Poriomania]

Are you claiming Vigilante?

Why are you fishing?

And no, I'm not.

[Cryptonic]

I should bring these back.

X

Try again, please.
I don't consider power roles confirmed until they take action.
I can breadcrumb as many power roles as I wish during a game, but it doesn't actually force me to commit to something.

So, the logical alternative is to lynch someone claiming power role day one before they can use their power to confirm themselves?
Try again, please.

[Cryptonic]

lol did you really just ask if straight up asking someone's role was fishing?

[Cryptonic]

anyways, i gtg g'nite.

[Poriomania]

So, the logical alternative is to lynch someone claiming power role day one before they can use their power to confirm themselves?
Try again, please.

Why am I voting you?

And yes, it's fishing.

[Poriomania]

Hm.

Is there anyone sisterly around?

[CarolinaCrown]

Slaol

2 much meta

[Slaol]

Poriomania

[Slaol]

Slaol

2 much meta

I am only adding to the incite. Once you have the incite you can begin to seek the softclaims and behavior patterns.

[Bunny]

Hi everyone, sorry I've been at dance. Will read soon.

[Banshis]

Ok I am here now and read up on what I missed. Slaol I like all the work put into that meta, but I don't exactly believe that Appley would allow you to entirely meta his set-up so he might throw some twists in there. Other than that it looks really nice.

Now for Crypt's PR claim reminds me of another s-fm where he outright claimed a pr. :)
Although I don't get the votes that went onto Crypt after that. He already said he is a pr unless they want him to claim?

Also Porio's play just seems to be a bit odd. He isn't acting very pro-town like he has in other games. I'm fine with pressuring him. Poriomania

[Slaol]

Cryptonic doesn't claim Power Role to claim power role. He claims Power Role to draw your attention away from the rest of the post where he claims his role specifically. Which is Vigilante

[Poriomania]

Going to sleep now.

I'll respond to the outstanding comments when I wake up.

[CarolinaCrown]

Quarter-Life: Halfway to Destruction

ATUHOR'S NOSE:
Uncycylopedia (which is online encyclopidia like wikiped) said I was writing story called Quarter-Life: Halfway to Destruction and dontn't know where come but I decide to write anyway.

CHAPTER ONE: WHAT IT MEANS
Gordon Freechmen was studying in his was studying laboratoried.
Fellow scientist cow-orker Jimm said "Gordon Freemant what are you working on"
"UI have discovered new radoactive isatope but it is so vollatile that it does not have a half-life but quarter-life so we must observe with hasty"
Juts then a headcrab went on Jimms head OH NO WHERE DID HEADCRAB COME FROM! GHordon wents to get his crowbarb ut it was missing so hhad to borrow a claymore sword. He hits teh headcrab and Jimm was okay but his head was cut
"Watch where you swings at me just kidding thanks"
" HAha" They laughed
"Whait oh no where id isotop?"
"UIt is been stoled!"

CHAPTER TWO: THEY REVOCER TEH ISOTROPE BUT THEY DON'T
Gordon and Jimm arrived at teh alien scene where a bad guy from the game said "I have take the isotope and it will cause meltdown!"
"NO, NOT ALL OF DALLAS!" Which swas target of where they were and it was nice place and my friend lives there.
"IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO MY DEMANS"
"TOO LATE" and the isotope hit quarterlife and teh room was slowly become vaporize
"Ew must escapes out of here fastly" but Jimm was already blowed to smitheroons.

CHAPTER THREE: DESTRUACTION IS IMMINANT
"This is Gordon Freeman how do we contain teh meltdown? I know!"
And he used portals to push henemy headquarters into a portal so Dallas wouldnt melt down and it would only go off harmless in Atlantic ocean.
"Hooray I scucceeded at winning the mission"
"Not so fast, Mr. Gordon"

What happens next? You deiside!

Tahnks for reading please buy my book at peterchimaera .com i am poor :(

[NoctiZ]

Hey guys, bad starting time for me but whatever. Will be back in some hours and then read carefully.

[Citrus]

Balls, I thought this started 12 hours later than it did and didn't check in til now, but everyone's asleep.

I won't be able to check in before day ends so in case my vote is needed, poriomania
If anyone hammers someone before their defense I will tunnel them to the ends of the earth, that is all

[NoctiZ]

The reason I can see for voting Crypt is that he outed PoD being a citizen (atleast that's what I got from PoD's posts too), but that would be a vote based on frustration or something? Atleast I wouldn't vote Crypt.. lol.

[RLVG]

im about to pull a rlvg

Uhhh wat?

[Cryptonic]

Why am I voting you?

And yes, it's fishing.


Role Fishing is when a player asks leading questions, which can only be answered by a player with role-specific knowledge. In this way, by answering the question intelligibly, a player reveals they have role-specific knowledge, and is thus probably a power role, even though they didn't roleclaim.

Asking someone's role is just asking their role.


BUT ANYWAYS, that's not important. The important thing is that we need to heal your convenient amnesia that has prevented you from remember why you're voting me. It's the only reason you'd ask me why you're voting me that I can think of. :smile:

[Bunny]

i don't think we can trust crypt "outing" PoD just yet..

[Cryptonic]

i don't think we can trust crypt "outing" PoD just yet..

nu PoD outted himself! So did another player who I now want dead, but one at a time, ammirite?

[Poriomania]

@Mod

Can we have a deadline extension? I have to leave for work now and I can't access SC2Mafia until around four o'clock.

I have words to say.

[Cryptonic]

Hey NoctiZ, wats up?
Can you post a list of what you think the roles are present in the game, please? That would be great thankyou.
If Citrus and Banshis would do this too, that would also be great. :3

[42shadow42]

So. I know a little bit about how AppleyNO balances games. Or should I say "Appley knows a bit about how I balance games."

Scum have 4 power roles: Town will have 4 power roles. Thus, Town also has 4 Citizens.
Scum has 2 KPN: Town will have 2 KPN. This is the lynch and the Vigilante that is 100% guaranteed.
Scum have 2 KPN: Town will have the ability to respond to 2 KPN.
- This will come in the form of 2 separate forms of response. Lookout/Doctor, which operate by hitting the target of the kill specifically.
- The other form is Bus Driver / Escort. These roles have trackable feedback and operate in a slightly less "protective" fashion to achieve their defense.
Scum have 1 Actress: AppleyNO fucking loves the Actress role. Like legit, loves it. This role is paired with a Consigliere that can feed the Actress which role he will be mimicing.
Scum have 1 Framer: Investigator is the only direct investigative role, and Framer is specific in ruining it's information. As well, this Framer will be paired with a Consort. Consorts are immune to role blocking so the Consort may act out a more secure kill while the Framer tries to succeed.

"Bus Driver / Escort" is an Escort. This will CC the Consort, and with the Actress also in play will be the multiple claim role for the game.
"Doctor / Lookout" is a Lookout. The invisibility that is about to hit the game in a Framer, Consig, Actress, Consort (that will be killing) we have been given a Lookout to track who specifically acted out a kill, or to detect movement in general.

Confirmed Roles list.

Consigliere
Actress

Framer
Consort

Investigator
Vigilante
Escort
Lookout
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

I'll post more later, but that is what we are looking at.
AppleyNO did tell me he is going to "random". But at an earlier time I had complained that his setup had too few Citizens, and his response nearly told me that more would roll out of the Hiddens to the point that it was what he considered "Balanced". Appley has the same mentality of balance as myself. Roles list confirmed.


Cryptonic is town, and is likely the Vigilante. I suggest the Lookout watch him tonight.

Please redefine your meta so these two theories can coincide, thanks!

[42shadow42]

Sorry, I guess i misunderstood, because I just reread your role list which based on your description I thoguht looked like this.

Investigator
Escort
Doctor
Lookout
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

Although, I am interested how you read vigilante from that post.

[Cryptonic]

shadow, post what you think the setup is, preez.

[NoctiZ]

Hey NoctiZ, wats up?
Can you post a list of what you think the roles are present in the game, please? That would be great thankyou.
If Citrus and Banshis would do this too, that would also be great. :3

Sup brah

Well, I never did anything like that before, but I can try..

Actress
Consigliere

Framer
Consort

Escort
Doctor
Vigilante
Investigator
Scientist
Scientist
Scientist
Scientist

I think something like that would be balanced? I picked the scum roles by gutfeel and how they could fit together. Town roles because there gotta be atleast one Escort and a Doctor, then a Vigilante to be able to dish something out since they are up against two factions so they need a kill too, Investigator because Consigliere and it's a standard role and 4 Scientists because that's enough TPRs IMO because of balancing reasons.

[Cryptonic]

Anyways, I understand why you would want a Citizen to be town leader, but why would you want to have a Citizen claimer be the town leader?
ps, What's your reason for voting me, shadow?

[Cryptonic]

Sup brah

Well, I never did anything like that before, but I can try..

Actress
Consigliere

Framer
Consort

Escort
Doctor
Vigilante
Investigator
Scientist
Scientist
Scientist
Scientist

I think something like that would be balanced? I picked the scum roles by gutfeel and how they could fit together. Town roles because there gotta be atleast one Escort and a Doctor, then a Vigilante to be able to dish something out since they are up against two factions so they need a kill too, Investigator because Consigliere and it's a standard role and 4 Scientists because that's enough TPRs IMO because of balancing reasons.

Yep, perfect, thankyou. :D

[Cryptonic]

Sorry, I guess i misunderstood, because I just reread your role list which based on your description I thoguht looked like this.

Investigator
Escort
Doctor
Lookout
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

Although, I am interested how you read vigilante from that post.



Lol I think the question you should be asking is why, and not how.

[42shadow42]

shadow, post what you think the setup is, preez.

I don't believe in being able to nail down the role list entirely here is my view of how it would be setup.

I believe in the support/deception combos. I doubt roles would be repeated, and I think janitor would not exist, so for mafias I have.

Consort
Framer/Actress Deception roles.

Consigliere
Framer/Actress Deception roles.

Investigator Meta dictates an investigator role exists
Detective/Lookout Meta dictates an alternative investigator based on 2 deceptions.
Escort Meta dictates an escort in lieu of the consort.Doctor Meta dictates minimal confirmable roles, I excluded bus driver based on the escort.
Scientist
Scientist
Scientist
Scientist

[Hypersniper]

ello ello ello god dammit i sometimes hate British time i will post later im at work atm

[Cryptonic]

I don't need it to be correct, just wondering.
I find your list quite interesting, though. Thanks.

[Slaol]

My scum list now includes 42shadow42

[Slaol]

My list assigned a random color to each pair of mafia roles. Orange or red could swap at any time for no standing effect. Noctiz as well simply copied my format. I find it interesting that 42 went seemingly out of his way to not attach a color to his mafias.

Just a thing! Poriomania is still in my sights for a lynch though.

[Slaol]

Also I see some crumbling of Escort from 42. And his top mafia starts with a Consort. So there is that.

[NoctiZ]

My list assigned a random color to each pair of mafia roles. Orange or red could swap at any time for no standing effect. Noctiz as well simply copied my format. I find it interesting that 42 went seemingly out of his way to not attach a color to his mafias.

Just a thing! Poriomania is still in my sights for a lynch though.

Oh lol I didn't notice that. I usually don't give a shit about role lists so I'm sorry for not reading your big ass post about it.

[Slaol]

What is your thoughts on 42 going out of his way to not attach a color to his mafias?

[NoctiZ]

What is your thoughts on 42 going out of his way to not attach a color to his mafias?

Either he is scum OR he just copied the color scheme from the setup.

[42shadow42]

My list assigned a random color to each pair of mafia roles. Orange or red could swap at any time for no standing effect. Noctiz as well simply copied my format. I find it interesting that 42 went seemingly out of his way to not attach a color to his mafias.

Just a thing! Poriomania is still in my sights for a lynch though.

Interesting I thought the other way around, you seem to have gone out of your way to assign colors, I was lazy and copied from the setup thread.

[Slaol]

Either he is scum OR he just copied the color scheme from the setup.

I find going to the setup to be very much more tedious. And if he didn't know what roles were even possible before looking, why is he so attached to Escort? Check his posts for some kind of man-crush on the escort role.

[Slaol]

Interesting I thought the other way around, you seem to have gone out of your way to assign colors, I was lazy and copied from the setup thread.

Noap. I hit red and orange, it's a hell of a lot lazier than going into the setup thread. Nice shit CC btw.
42shadow42

[Slaol]

And I scared him away.
42 is definitely scum. Let's get dat lynch my nigs.

[CarolinaCrown]

Interesting I thought the other way around, you seem to have gone out of your way to assign colors, I was lazy and copied from the setup thread.

The colors don't really mean anything to me; this response is what I find fishy.

42shadow42

Seriously guys does anyone know anything about Statistical Mechanics or Wigner Functions or Liouville's Theorem I'm so lost on this problem set

[Slaol]

Btw, I am heavily in favor of lynching today. If we do have the Vigilante then we need to keep our KPN the same as Scum. If we don't then this is our only kill. Even if we miss it gives our power roles more substance to go on, namely the investigator. Also, the mafias can kill each other, so we aren't guaranteed to lose 2 town each night.

[Slaol]

The colors don't really mean anything to me; this response is what I find fishy.

42shadow42

Seriously guys does anyone know anything about Statistical Mechanics or Wigner Functions or Liouville's Theorem I'm so lost on this problem set

His response was also what took me from skeptical of my own lead to "lolgethim"

[Slaol]

I'm heading into work, will be able to check in randomly while at work, and then for an hour or so just before day ends. Unless day ends early of course.

[NoctiZ]

I find going to the setup to be very much more tedious. And if he didn't know what roles were even possible before looking, why is he so attached to Escort? Check his posts for some kind of man-crush on the escort role.

I haven't found anything about his attachment to the Escort role, can't find what you mean. But post #94 is legit. I'm gonna trust you on this one Slaol because you have the uber supernatural skills man

42shadow42

[Cryptonic]

My list assigned a random color to each pair of mafia roles. Orange or red could swap at any time for no standing effect. Noctiz as well simply copied my format. I find it interesting that 42 went seemingly out of his way to not attach a color to his mafias.

Just a thing! Poriomania is still in my sights for a lynch though.

Yea, this is basically the same thought I came up with:

He split up mafia by color coding - could possibly be trying to give himself wiggle room if his roles list was exact for one of the Mafias. It seems like a bad attempt at faking not knowing what one of the Mafia Teams' roles are.

[powerofdeath]

Greeting friends. I am out of school and I shall read this.

[powerofdeath]

Hello!!
Doc on me, please. I'm an important town power role! Thank you, greatly appreciated :smile:
powerofdeath
Only thing I have read is PoD softclaiming claiming citizen. Citizens give room for scum to hide, it's a decent day one lynch. Will read everything else in a few hours. Sorry, don't have much time right now. bbs

Cryptonic
Just because you claim Power role does not mean you are one. I remember you claiming the exact same thing as a Serial Killer in DK2.
Softclaiming citizens can be benefits for the town. Power role who want to stay hidden can easily claim citizen. Citizen who wifom in thinking people who think he is a town power role wifoming citizen which is a double wifom.
I did not hardclaim citizen or anything, I just said Im a doctor in physic.

[Hypersniper]

hello im back from work and just read the posts here is my thought

my role list is like slaols but maf roles are interchangeable

i strongly think 42 is consort since he is attached to escort so much but looks scummy as hell

however slaol COULD AND I SAID COULD be diverting attention from hisself being maf

42shadow42

[Hypersniper]

oh i find just a lil scummy that slaol really wants a lynch. i get theKPN THING but maf may want 3 KPN
P.S im not point fingers

[Slaol]

hello im back from work and just read the posts here is my thought

my role list is like slaols but maf roles are interchangeable

i strongly think 42 is consort since he is attached to escort so much but looks scummy as hell

however slaol COULD AND I SAID COULD be diverting attention from hisself being maf

42shadow42

Hypersniper: "I agree with everything Slaol has done, but I still worry Slaol is scum."


oh i find just a lil scummy that slaol really wants a lynch. i get theKPN THING but maf may want 3 KPN
P.S im not point fingers

I am always pro-day1 lynch. In this case, however, I am even more so because a mislynch is not as painful to us as would be killing 1/2 of one of the mafia chats. I'd prefer to increase the KPN that could hit any mafia from 1 (the other mafia) to 3 (lynch, other mafia, and likely Vigilante). Also, 42 has fallen into being a damn fine lynch target, as opposed to the normal situation where I push a lynch that I know won't take to try and force discussion.

[Slaol]

Please note that the lynch requires 7/8 town members. The chances of all 7 members all turning on the other is incredibly unlikely. If the mafias don't jump on the trains odds are we won't be prime to mislynch.
If the mafias did jump on the same lynch we would only need 3 town, but in that case we would see he mislynch and a proper role claim afterwards would sift through which people were those 3 town.

I feel the lynch discussion for this game is fairly safely in our control.

[NoctiZ]

Hypersniper: "I agree with everything Slaol has done, but I still worry Slaol is scum."

My thoughts exactly lol

[Hypersniper]

ok near end of day whoever has not voted on the scummiest target(s) will be very scummy

well we can trust noone

[RLVG]

Please note that the lynch requires 7/8 town members. The chances of all 7 members all turning on the other is incredibly unlikely.

Doesn't A Mafia need to vote on B Mafia and visa versa as well?

[Slaol]

Doesn't A Mafia need to vote on B Mafia and visa versa as well?

They do. I was referring to the topic of mis lynches. Saying they are statistically pretty hard to pull off.

[Slaol]

Bunny and RLVG have not voted. Given the statistic difficulty to pull off a lynch this game I find it probable that Towns will get their ballots up, and scum will avoid voting to prevent it.

@Bunny and RLVG: lease explain your reason for not voting thus far.

[Slaol]

Please*

[Cryptonic]

Cryptonic
Just because you claim Power role does not mean you are one. I remember you claiming the exact same thing as a Serial Killer in DK2.
Softclaiming citizens can be benefits for the town. Power role who want to stay hidden can easily claim citizen. Citizen who wifom in thinking people who think he is a town power role wifoming citizen which is a double wifom.
I did not hardclaim citizen or anything, I just said Im a doctor in physic.

Citizen is no benefit when scum hides within the Citizens.
GJ OMGUSing, though :)

[Cryptonic]

Btw, doctor/lookout on me tonight to prevent kill/roleblock, thank you :)

[RLVG]

RLVG: Please explain your reason for not voting thus far.

Having to chose between 42 and Crypt, I'd rather wait just a little.

[Slaol]

Crypt. Thoughts on 42?

[Slaol]

Having to chose between 42 and Crypt, I'd rather wait just a little.

Allied with one of them, got it.

[Hypersniper]

im not a fan of crypt asking for lookou/doc on him no one else

[Slaol]

im not a fan of crypt asking for lookou/doc on him no one else

I am. He is an important town power role.

[Hypersniper]

HOW DO U KNOW HE IS VIG HE NO CLAIM IT

[Slaol]

HOW DO U KNOW HE IS VIG HE NO CLAIM IT

Oh but he did. Just gotta sift through the misdirection a bit.

[Banshis]

Ok I am home from school and I read.

As for my idea for a role list.

Consigliere
Actress

Consort
Framer

Doctor
Investigator
Escort/Detective
Vigilante
Scientist
Scientist
Scientist
Scientist

For the escort vs detective I believe more likely an escort, but I won't exclude the detective possibility. Escort seems more probable for cc reasons. With a detective he could basically confirm himself. It is if Appley would rather go for 2 invests or 2 protectives. With 2 kpn escort also seems more likely and the reason I don't believe a lookout is because with 2 kpn a doctor can block one of the kills so town doesn't get overwhelmed. Although mafia have to give up a night action for them to go for the kill so most likely I am seeing the framer if there is one going for the kills and the actress going for the kills. So Escort seems more probable if this is what the mafia looks like since I think they would rather keep an escort roleblocking.

So long story short. I say escort over detective. The mafia seem pretty balanced against each other and against the town.
Also regarding the vigilante I do believe we have one as well since it is 4 mafia in the game with 2kpn.
Although I still feel like Appley would throw in twists so Slaol couldn't meta him entirely.

[RLVG]

Allied with one of them, got it.

Nope.
See if I can trick scum into voting for one of them so that htey think I could go and hammer.

Takes too long, so.

Poriomania

[Slaol]

Nope.
See if I can trick scum into voting for one of them so that htey think I could go and hammer.

Takes too long, so.

Poriomania

Wut.

[42shadow42]

Checking in, I will be here for~ 30 minutes I'm surprised by the votes so far. I'm trying to decide ATM whether the scum hunt is legit or if people are looking for excuses to lynch.

[powerofdeath]

Everybody is voting people who are voting cryptonic...

[Cryptonic]

Everybody is voting people who are voting cryptonic...

That's because only scum would vote someone claiming to be a town power role

[Hypersniper]

I'm still wary of crypt just no to a point of lynch

[Cryptonic]

I'm still wary of crypt just no to a point of lynch

Yea, i'm in a pretty good spot right now.

[42shadow42]

That's because only scum would vote someone claiming to be a town power role

Odd because I voted you for that very reason.

[Cryptonic]

Odd because I voted you for that very reason.

and what does that say about yourself?

[Slaol]

Odd because I voted you for that very reason.

God, you are fucking scummy.

Cryptonics statement is not fact, but your response is so shit I'd vote you even if I wasn't playing.

[Cryptonic]

What is more likely?

Town: Omg someone claimed to be on my team and to have a power that could help me win. Better lynch him before he can prove himself!!!

or

Mafia: Omg someone claimed to be power role day 1 and can't prove himself, maybe I can herd a couple sheep votes on him and pull off a misslynch.

[Hypersniper]

OOOOO BURN

[42shadow42]

powerofdeath
My case exactly.

[Cryptonic]

My case exactly.

And?

Cit claimers are devil spawn.

Citizen claims survive until the end.
No one wastes night actions checking a Citizen claimer.

He will survive until the end and will either get misslynched or will be scum and will be like "derp i softclaimed cit day 1, so i'm obv cit", and you knobs will believe him and misslynch the other Citizen softclaimer.

Citizen's should learn to stfu and take a bullet instead of outting themselves without any MLs present. All i'm doing is ensuring were in a good position on mylo/lylo, and that makes you want to lynch someone claiming TPR?

It's just not logical.

[42shadow42]

And?

Cit claimers are devil spawn.

Citizen claims survive until the end.
No one wastes night actions checking a Citizen claimer.

He will survive until the end and will either get misslynched or will be scum and will be like "derp i softclaimed cit day 1, so i'm obv cit", and you knobs will believe him and misslynch the other Citizen softclaimer.

Citizen's should learn to stfu and take a bullet instead of outting themselves without any MLs present. All i'm doing is ensuring were in a good position on mylo/lylo, and that makes you want to lynch someone claiming TPR?

It's just not logical.

@pod did you soft claim cit?

[Cryptonic]

Also, PoD & 42 trying to discredit me claiming TPR seems like it's just an effort to either misslynch or to coerce the Doctor/Lookout off of me, making me available for the night kill.

I can't see a legit reason.

@ 42, why do you believe a d1 Citizen claimer over someone who claims to have a power? I don't get it.
Why are you buddying with PoD so much?

[Cryptonic]

Of course he softclaimed Citizen.
42 obv isn't a Citizen, and he didn't even read all the rolecards lol.


Well guys I am a doctor. A doctor of Physic.


Knowing Appley, I think it is safe to assume there is an actress in game.
If anybody flipped town, it is possible that he was an actress instead.

Theoretical Physics sucks.... Even though I have Doctorate in it.
I have way to much homework...


Scientist
You have the power of the vote!
You also have a Doctorate in Theoretical Physics.

[Cryptonic]

It's not that I don't believe PoD.
It's just that I don't think I'm going to be around @ the end of the game, and I don't trust you guys in a 1 v 2 cit scenario!

[Hypersniper]

Lol epic softclaim

I never claim without heavy pressure or a cc is present

[Hypersniper]

We need 3 more votes on 42 I expect crypt and/or the people voteing porio to vote him

[Bunny]

Herro! I'm back from work.

Here is what I think a role list would be..

Consigliere
Janitor/Actress
-This would allow the Mafia to know good targets to clean or impersonate

Consort
Framer
- Other two mafia, just because the other Mafia roles seem to go better together and I don't see a Mafioso being in the setup.

Investigator
Detective
Doctor
Vigilante
Scientistx4
- I think we will definitely have two investigative roles since there are 2 kpn. However, I could see us not even having an investigator and Appley tricking us into thinking that the Consigliere is our Investigator. I don't think we'll have an Escort because I'm fairly sure there will be a Consort and there would probably be too much blocking. I would've said Bus Driver, knowing Appley, but I think a BD would cause too many balance problems with 2 Mafia's killing each night. I also think Detective over Lookout because a Lookout is really strong and can quickly end the game if they get 1 lucky check.

Any questions for me while I'm here!?

[Hypersniper]

I mostly agree on your list except I strongly think there is a escort
However I may have not been informed that is is or is not nor has any of you though

And what's your stance on 42 crypt and PoD

[AppleyNO]

2 hours and 9 minutes until day ends.

[RLVG]

Framer
Consigliere

Can switch between framing and being an Investigator, giving a Gambit-Mafia.

Actress
Janitor

Actress visits once before starting to kill, making them a Gambit on Cleaning or having to change Act-Targets.

Investigator
Investigator
Vigilante
Escort
Bus Driver
Detective
Scientist
Scientist

Investigator to blend in the Consig / Frame combo.
Escort and Bus Driver to switch, defect and confuse targets.
Detective to see who visited and Vigilante to be seen among the 3 possible KPN.
This is what I'm thinking.

[Hypersniper]

RLVG I think we need to pull a lynch off today and the scummiest person so far is 42 so I suggest you vote him

[Hypersniper]

If bunny crypt and RLVG voted shadow he would be lunches so do it

[CarolinaCrown]

If bunny crypt and RLVG voted shadow he would be lunches so do it


he would be lunches

13913

[Bunny]

I mostly agree on your list except I strongly think there is a escort
However I may have not been informed that is is or is not nor has any of you though

And what's your stance on 42 crypt and PoD

I dont quite know what you're saying here.

Lol I don't particularily think any of them are scummy, crypt is the most town to me tho.

[Poriomania]

Back from work.

Catching up now.

[powerofdeath]

I have town read on Shadow.

[42shadow42]

I have town read on Shadow.

Thx buddy!

[RLVG]

Cryptonic

Social experiment. Both at L3.

[Slaol]

Herro! I'm back from work.

Here is what I think a role list would be..

Consigliere
Janitor/Actress
-This would allow the Mafia to know good targets to clean or impersonate

Consort
Framer
- Other two mafia, just because the other Mafia roles seem to go better together and I don't see a Mafioso being in the setup.

Investigator
Detective
Doctor
Vigilante
Scientistx4
- I think we will definitely have two investigative roles since there are 2 kpn. However, I could see us not even having an investigator and Appley tricking us into thinking that the Consigliere is our Investigator. I don't think we'll have an Escort because I'm fairly sure there will be a Consort and there would probably be too much blocking. I would've said Bus Driver, knowing Appley, but I think a BD would cause too many balance problems with 2 Mafia's killing each night. I also think Detective over Lookout because a Lookout is really strong and can quickly end the game if they get 1 lucky check.

Any questions for me while I'm here!?

Bunny is confirmed as not Detective.

[Slaol]

I have town read on Shadow.

Noted.
This only further supports my read of Cryptonic as Town.

Powerofdeath and 42shadow42 make up one of the Mafias.

[Slaol]

Banshis, please pick a train.
Citrus, please pick a train.

Bunny, why do you feel Cryptonic is Town?

Cryptonic, please join the 42shadow42 train as I agree that your lead of POD is reasonable and we can push on him tomorrow.

Anyone, why no one FoS me?

[Slaol]

Cryptonic

Social experiment. Both at L3.

Willingly places vote in a pattern that is unlikely to allow for a lynch.
Noted.

[Slaol]

42shadow42
Powerofdeath

RLVG
(insert other here)

3 Scum have revealed themselves.
Poriomania would be a good 4th Mafia i'd think.

[Slaol]

We have just under an hour until day ends. If no one is lynched I am gonna be fucking pissed.

Cryptonic, Bunny, Banshis, Citrus please do something productive.

[Slaol]

42shadow42
Powerofdeath

RLVG
(insert other here)

3 Scum have revealed themselves.
Poriomania would be a good 4th Mafia i'd think.

RLVG also chose to vote on the lead Poriomania is on.
In fact, all 4 of my scum leads are on the Cryptonic train.
THATS A FUN FACT.

[Slaol]

Lol, gg.

Powerofdeath
42shadow42

RLVG
Poriomania

Cryptonic
Slaol
Bunny
NoctiZ
Carolina Crown
Banshis
Citrus
Hypersniper

GG, alignment player list confirmed.

[42shadow42]

Lol, gg.

Powerofdeath
42shadow42

RLVG
Poriomania

Cryptonic
Slaol
Bunny
NoctiZ
Carolina Crown
Banshis
Citrus
Hypersniper

GG, alignment player list confirmed.

Lol wut?

[Slaol]

Lol wut?

I'm placing my leads list. And all 4 of my scum leads managed to all vote on someone that multiple people (myself included) read as Town.

Please CC that all of my Green names are actually in one large Mafia. It would go in line with your shit responses to my play so far. Chop chop, 45 minutes left.

[Banshis]

We have just under an hour until day ends. If no one is lynched I am gonna be fucking pissed.

Cryptonic, Bunny, Banshis, Citrus please do something productive.

I am back. Was watching a video. 42shadow42 I don't trust Porio at all and him voting crypt is suspicious.

[Cryptonic]

Cryptonic

Social experiment. Both at L3.

I like this, it's a nice thing for day 1.
42, claim a role please.

[42shadow42]

I like this, it's a nice thing for day 1.
42, claim a role please.

Investigator.

[Poriomania]

I'll be voting shadow after I publish my notes.

[Slaol]

Investigator.

Confirmed Consigliere.

[42shadow42]

Confirmed Consigliere.

I'm considering that a CC, make sure slaol goes next.

[Slaol]

I'm considering that a CC, make sure slaol goes next.

I didn't CC.
I stated that your claim is shit, and I don't buy it.

[RLVG]

Lol, gg.

RLVG
Poriomania

Slaol
NoctiZ
Citrus
Hypersniper

GG, alignment player list confirmed.

I question all of these colored ones.

[Slaol]

I question all of these colored ones.

Please note that RLVG has latched himself to Poriomania further. He is not just defending my FOS on himself, but is defending Poriomania.

[Slaol]

Off for dinner. Wont be back. dont let 42 escape

[RLVG]

Please note that RLVG has latched himself to Poriomania further. He is not just defending my FOS on himself, but is defending Poriomania.

I'm not defending Porio. I'm just asking:

Why is Porio mafia in contrast of all the town you named?
Why is Slaol, NoctiZ, Citrus, Hypersniper undeniably a town?

You explained why I am a Mafia for bullshit reasons.

Your attempt of getting a "town leader" position, makes me FoS you slowly.

[RLVG]

Off for dinner. Wont be back. dont let 42 escape

Running away.





42shadow

Changing my vote.

[Poriomania]

Slaol: He's making me paranoid. Like, he's playing very pro-town, but he's also playing much more differently than in past games. My main gripes with him is that he's autoclearing people based on.. actual nothing, which is a technique I see more from overconfident scum - they don't want to explain why someone's town, because they already know that they're town. So, I'm fencesitting on him right now, but that's liable to change in the future.

42shadow42: He's firmly in my "reading this player is an exercise in futility and will get you burned, sheriff him early and often" category. He's posting a lot of reaction-testing and one-liners, which is actually a technique that someone from my home site uses. I have him as null for now, given that it's so early in the game. I'll probably VCA him out though.

RLVG: Actually a gut town read - I like the reasoning for fake-voting this early in the game, and while he's made bad posts, he's always scummy. So, I would take a closer look at him (also because he's provided zero reasoning for his votes, tell him to justify THAT) but gut town read.

Banshis: Only three posts, so yeah no. Well, he does have that townie paranoia regarding me, so I'd bump him up a teensy bit.

Bunny: Scummy - she says she can't "trust" Cryptonic outing PoD, then says "Cryptonic is the most town for me" without reasoning. Tell her to explain her thought process and reasoning regarding those two statements tomorrow.

Cryptonic: My strongest scum read, actually. I voted him because his first post was terrrrrrrible - so, so forced, also suggests a citizen needs to die, without accounting behavior. I'm here to lynch scum - not citizen claimers. Also,


You choose to vote me, a person claiming town power, over PoD, who's softclaiming citizen?
shadow, what kind of town wants to lynch someone claiming to be town power role without proof? scum, that's who. :)

Another bad post. He calls 42shadow42 scum but doesn't vote him. Also note the mindset difference - "claiming" town power instead of "I'm town power". Wish I could go more in-depth but he's scum. The weak breadcrumbing also suggests that he's not willing to commit. He needs to burnnnnn.

Hypersniper: He's town, I think.

Not going to go much more in-depth on this read.

CarolinaCrown: He's a bit jokey in RVS, which is a slight scumtell for me, but other than that I have nothing. Null read, for now.

Citrus: One post special!

powerofdeath: Yeah, can't read him now. Not very many posts.

And finally, NoctiZ, who has like nothing in his posts.

Well, I'm done, and here's a starting point for toMorrow. It's a bit troubling for this game, since scum can legitimately scumhunt. I'm expecting most of these reads to change starting upon Day 2.

Poriomania
Hypersniper
RLVG
Banshis
Slaol
Citrus
PowerofDeath
NoctiZ
42Shadow42
CarolinaCrown
Bunny
Cryptonic

[Poriomania]

RLVG, would you like to have the privilege of hammering 42shadow42?

[Poriomania]

*shrugs*

Lets hope this lynch goes through.

42shadow42

[RLVG]

Vote]42shadow[/vote]

Derp.

42shadow42

[The Godfather]

42shadow42 has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Cryptonic ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/5896') (2 [L-5]): 42shadow42 ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=383087'), powerofdeath ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=383307')
42shadow42 ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/7178') (7 [L-0]): Poriomania ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=383429'), Slaol ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=383294'), CarolinaCrown ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=383296'), Banshis ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=383409'), NoctiZ ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=383302'), Hypersniper ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=383320'), RLVG ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=383430')
powerofdeath ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/3897') (1 [L-6]): Cryptonic ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=383084')
Poriomania ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10058') (1 [L-6]): Citrus ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=383138')

[AppleyNO]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F7qL6JjUlo
Night One

The scientists gathered together, and immediately attacked the HECU Commander, Consigliere 42Shadow42, out of frustration, fear, and a little but of luck. As night creeped up, the scientists realized that they would need a little bit more than luck to survive the night.


Alive Players



1. Slaol
2. 42Shadow42
3. RLVG
4. Banshis
5. Bunny
6. Cryptonic
7. Hypersniper
8. Poriomania
9. CarolinaCrown
10. Citrus
11. PowerofDeath
12. Noctiz

Roles List


Xen Forces
Nihilanth
Gonarch


Hazardous Environment Combat Unit
Consigliere
Corporal Shepard

Black Mesa Personal
Gordon Freeman
Barney Calhoun
Black Mesa Security Guard
Black Mesa Security Guard
Black Mesa Security Guard
Black Mesa Security Guard
Scientist
Scientist

Graveyard

42Shadow42 - Consigliere

Night One Ends at this time - http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=September+27th%2C+2013+8%3A00pm+GMT-5
Please have your actions in at least an hour before night ends.

Red mafia night chat will be sent momentarily. Sorry Orange Mafia T.T

[AppleyNO]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WY7xIxkUA4
Day One

Corporal Shepard, I can't believe your alive!!! You need to head to an extraction point at *Shock*... Shepard? Shepard are you there?
Bunny has been killed by the Red Mafia. She was Corporal Shepard, the Framer.

.-. PowerofDeath was killed by a Vigilante. He was Gordon Freeman, a lookout. Come out with Half life 3 to come back to life.

PowerofDeath has left a Last Will:

Incase of Actress I am Lookout
Well guys, It seemed that I am dead. I bet I looked so scummy after Shadow's flip. I softclaimed Citizen to avoid a hit as a PR. Why else would I claim citizen? I wouldve claimed a PR as scum. At least I saved you guys a lynch for some else who is most likely mafia.
I decided to lookout on Slaol since I have a high town read on him. GL guys, see you at the end, it sucks being dead twice in a row before Day 2


Alive Players


1. Slaol
3. RLVG
4. Banshis
6. Cryptonic
7. Hypersniper
8. Poriomania
9. CarolinaCrown
10. Citrus
12. Noctiz

Roles List

Xen Forces
Nihilanth
Gonarch

Hazardous Environment Combat Unit
Consigliere
Framer

Black Mesa Personal
Lookout
Barney Calhoun
Black Mesa Security Guard
Black Mesa Security Guard
Black Mesa Security Guard
Black Mesa Security Guard
Scientist
Scientist

Graveyard
42Shadow42 - Consigliere, Day Zero
Bunny - Framer, Night One by Red Mafia
PowerofDeath - Lookout, Night One by Vigilante

Day One ends at this time - http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=September+28th%2C+2013+8%3A00pm+GMT-5
5

Poor, poor Orange Mafia...

[Slaol]

Wow POD you suck. Way to go Red mafia, thanks for the assist. Also, congratulations to my lovely town for handling that pesky consigliere yesterday.

[Banshis]

Also it seems orange mafia didn't get their kill off. Nobody dead to orange.

[Slaol]

RLVG
It's time to push on the set of butt buddies.

You'll notice in Poriomanias read post he blames me for not saying much to the people I confirm, however he then reads RLVG as a "gut town" even saying that while RLVG was scummy he was town. This is obviously evil. As well, RLVG challenged my FoS on Poriomania.

[Poriomania]

I'm glad my read on Bunny was proven to be true.

I was also roleblocked.

Cryptonic

[NoctiZ]

No feedback here. Am not at home. Posts later.

[AppleyNO]

I fucked up some feedback. One second while I correct it.

[Slaol]

I'm glad my read on Bunny was proven to be true.

I was also roleblocked.

Cryptonic

I do not trust is feedback. However, I shall wait for the rest of it before deciding.

[AppleyNO]

Feedback has been corrected, and I ask that you do not post your fake feedback.

I'm not feeling well, sorry everyone.

[Cryptonic]

I'm glad my read on Bunny was proven to be true.

I was also roleblocked.

Cryptonic

Roleblocked & 1 kill? mhmmmm

[Cryptonic]

jk but anyways, was anyone healed last night?
I got feedback, but it was corrected.

[Slaol]

Roleblocked & 1 kill? mhmmmm

The orange kill was the one that didn't take. Zero chance he is orange.

[Cryptonic]

RLVG

[Slaol]

Odds are that role block is our Escort, and the proper target was Bunny?

[Slaol]

Cryptonic, who is your next lead for your night shoot? To try and game plan for the night kill once the lynch takes.

[Cryptonic]

I'd NoctiZ and Banshis are difficult to read, and I think Porio is just being a sad sheepling, and RLVG is just buddying with him.

However, I didn't hear anything from Citrus, though. Would like to hear more from him.

I'm probably thinking RLVG & Banshis or RLVG & NoctiZ atm.

btw, who claims Citizen day 1 w/o ML? Seriously, it was such a scummy thing to do :3

btw thanks for being on me last night, Doctor ;)

[Slaol]

Vigilante, check
Lookout, check
Framer, check
Consigliere, check
Role block, check

Mafias were in the wrong pairings but dat roles meta.

[Slaol]

I would like more out of the lurkers please. My armor piercing interrogatory day kill needs your contributions too.

[Cryptonic]

ok heading out w/ bunny, bbl.

btw, we should probably consider who would kill Bunny n1. I'm thinking Poriomania or RLVG would be one to choose that action.

[Slaol]

ok heading out w/ bunny, bbl.

btw, we should probably consider who would kill Bunny n1. I'm thinking Poriomania or RLVG would be one to choose that action.

Agreed. Her support of you was minor, but they probably observed it as an increase in difficulty to mislynch you.

[Banshis]

Actress
Consort

Consigliere
Framer

Lookout
Doctor
Investigator
Vigilante
Scientist
Scientist
Scientist
Scientist

Ok This is what I believe the role list looks like right now. A lookout and doctor and escort with a vigilante would just seem like too strong of a comp with the blocks. The investigator I feel like is in here so the consigiliere would have a cc and with a framer. Why would there be a framer without an investigator?

The bolded are confirmed roles we have. A doctor was apparently on Crypt so I bolded doctor.

[Slaol]

Actress/Consort is a reasonable mafia comp. The a Consort is a powerful role that can kill without being blocked, and the actress plays support and changes the game through death.

Any chance Bunny was an Actress that chose to act instead of kill?

[Banshis]

Actress/Consort is a reasonable mafia comp. The a Consort is a powerful role that can kill without being blocked, and the actress plays support and changes the game through death.

Any chance Bunny was an Actress that chose to act instead of kill?

Actress
Can follow someone at night.
If you die, you will appear to be the last role that you visited. This includes kills.

I don't know if it means she will appear as who she killed if she dies. Otherwise we will find out tonight based on how many kills if she was truly and actress. With me thinking there is a consort and if Porio's feedback wasn't changed then he is probably town, UNLESS he is the consort and blocked bunny or went for the kill. Then he can say that he was blocked so he could freely kill.

[Cryptonic]

Banshis today is a bit better than yesterday.

I dont think I'd be a good target for a misslynch, but I guess someow else could think I am.

[RLVG]

1. Consort
2. Escort
3. Bus Driver (If RBer targets A, then B is blocked)
4. Lookout/Detective (Will see each other)
5. Framing/Actress
6. Invest/Consig
7. All Kills at the same time
8. Doctor heals

It's possible.

Just going to ask this:
If the Actress acts as a Mafia, will it show it's respective faction color?
E.G Red Actress shows up as Orange Framer.

[Cryptonic]

It's possible.

Just going to ask this:
If the Actress acts as a Mafia, will it show it's respective faction color?
E.G Red Actress shows up as Orange Framer.

Afraid you'll flip orange framer and be super obvious? :)

[RLVG]

Afraid you'll flip orange framer and be super obvious? :)

I'm Green like a spring tree. What about yourself, oh griefing Crypto?

[AppleyNO]

It's possible.

Just going to ask this:
If the Actress acts as a Mafia, will it show it's respective faction color?
E.G Red Actress shows up as Orange Framer.
Yes, if an actress acts as the other mafia, they will flip as the other mafia.

[Cryptonic]

I'm glad my read on Bunny was proven to be true.

I was also roleblocked.

Cryptonic

Also, I find this post hilarious, because your read on Bunny was due to poor reading comprehension.


i don't think we can trust crypt "outing" PoD just yet..

- Bunny saying she can't trust me on the subject of lynching PoD.


I dont quite know what you're saying here.

Lol I don't particularily think any of them are scummy, crypt is the most town to me tho.

- Bunny saying that out of the 3 people Hypersniper asked her about, she thought I was the most town of the 3.


Bunny: Scummy - she says she can't "trust" Cryptonic outing PoD, then says "Cryptonic is the most town for me" without reasoning. Tell her to explain her thought process and reasoning regarding those two statements tomorrow.

Lol it just made me laugh how he thought this was a logical read. Sure, you were right, but it was just a coincidence lol. Because the things you said weren't even true :>


Anyways, onto new shit. If it was someone like CmG who said "Tell her to explain her thought process and reasoning regarding those two statements tomorrow.", I'd push on him a lynch so fast when Bunny died. However, I feel that Porio is town for saying it.

Still leaning on RLVG/NoctiZ & RLVG/Citrus

[CarolinaCrown]

I would like more out of the lurkers please. My armor piercing interrogatory day kill needs your contributions too.

1 lynch + 2 kills = 3 deaths -> Half Life 3 Confirmed

Banshis

I thought it was pretty obvious that PoD was claiming cit to hide that he was a PR

[Cryptonic]

I'm Green like a spring tree. What about yourself, oh griefing Crypto?

I is sad :( , but I'm still an important town power role. And I know I'm not the only one who thinks this, because I'm 99.9% sure the Doctor targeted me last night! :smile:


rip bunny <3

[Cryptonic]

1 lynch + 2 kills = 3 deaths -> Half Life 3 Confirmed

Banshis

I thought it was pretty obvious that PoD was claiming cit to hide that he was a PR

Yea, that's why he died.

[RLVG]

Still leaning on RLVG/NoctiZ & RLVG/Citrus

Fun fact then, I don't care if I'm involved.

There's 2 scenarios :

1.
Both mafia died of a faction.

2.
One of each mafia died.

[Cryptonic]

Fun fact then, I don't care if I'm involved.

There's 2 scenarios :

1.
Both mafia died of a faction.

2.
One of each mafia died.

That's a good attitude. How about you tell us who YOU think is involved. You're at the center of attention currently, everyone is listening.

[RLVG]

That's a good attitude. How about you tell us who YOU think is involved. You're at the center of attention currently, everyone is listening.

Higher on list, the higher probability.

1. Banshis & CarolinaCrown
2. Banshis & Cryptonic
3. NoctiZ & CarolinaCrown
4. NoctiZ & Hypersniper
5. Hypersniper & Cryptonic

[CarolinaCrown]

Higher on list, the higher probability.

1. Banshis & CarolinaCrown
2. Banshis & Cryptonic
3. NoctiZ & CarolinaCrown
4. NoctiZ & Hypersniper
5. Hypersniper & Cryptonic

Oh, you bother.

[Cryptonic]

Higher on list, the higher probability.

1. Banshis & CarolinaCrown
2. Banshis & Cryptonic
3. NoctiZ & CarolinaCrown
4. NoctiZ & Hypersniper
5. Hypersniper & Cryptonic

Arg i want to give my reads on everybody, but I'm afraid it'll alter night actions too much and what I expect to happen won't happen :(

But thanks for supplying these :>
I apologize, but my vote will stand for now.

[Cryptonic]

but i'm fairly certain that I know the roles of Slaol, Hypersniper, and CarolinaCrown.
I don't think Carolina is scum. If I was scum, I would've shot him n1.

[CarolinaCrown]

but i'm fairly certain that I know the roles of Slaol, Hypersniper, and CarolinaCrown.
I don't think Carolina is scum. If I was scum, I would've shot him n1.

You don't know me. You're not my dad.

[NoctiZ]

Besides feeling that RLVG may be scum, I also get that vibe from Banshis and PoD albeit less.

I'd like to hear more from Citrus and Hypersniper before coming to a better conclusion though.

Towniest people are Slaol and Crypt, that goes without saying.

[CarolinaCrown]

NoctiZ

[Cryptonic]

Besides feeling that RLVG may be scum, I also get that vibe from Banshis and PoD albeit less.

I'd like to hear more from Citrus and Hypersniper before coming to a better conclusion though.

Towniest people are Slaol and Crypt, that goes without saying.

PoD is dead. Lol

[Banshis]

Also if you read the day start post Appley put poor poor orange mafia in it. I think Bunny was a legit orange framer and that the orange mafia are dead for sure.

[Slaol]

You are retarded. If she was a red mafia acting as an orange mafia she wouldn't be killed by red mafia.
If she was an orange actress that took 'framer' she would have come up as a red framer.

Bunny was an orange Framer.

[Slaol]

That was at RLVG, btw. I also had this whole scenario going on, but nah mechanics make it no issue.

[RLVG]

That was at RLVG, btw. I also had this whole scenario going on, but nah mechanics make it no issue.

Thank you for making me, and half the game, look like idiots for not seeing the obvious.

[Slaol]

Anyway, the Escort that blocked Bunny should claim.
Or the Doctor that saved Cryptonic should claim.

Whichever.

[Banshis]

Anyway, the Escort that blocked Bunny should claim.
Or the Doctor that saved Cryptonic should claim.

Whichever.
Crypt wasn't saved. It was a host error, but the error confirmed a doctor.

[Slaol]

Crypt wasn't saved. It was a host error, but the error confirmed a doctor.

Meh, I've got a thing going on, but am getting kind of sick so I won't be putting forth effort to explain stuff. Whoever was actually healed should claim. Wink wink.

[Banshis]

Eh ok. If anyone needs me I will be watching Worlds!

[RLVG]

Anyway, the Escort that blocked Bunny should claim.

How do you know if she had an Escort on her?

Slaol

[Slaol]

How do you know if she had an Escort on her?

Slaol

There's... A missing orange kill?

[Cryptonic]

How do you know if she had an Escort on her?

Slaol

Whoa now, that kind of rash behavior can result in costly funeral bills. He thinks she was blocked because orange mafia didn't kill, and Doctor was on me (I wasn't attacked).

[Slaol]

I would like to personally request the red mafia surrender. Town controls 2 kills, and has a 7 to 2 man advantage. Give up.

[Citrus]

Hey guys, sorry school started previous day and I had trouble finding time to check in.

Firstly, wanted to say - I sincerely sincerely doubt Bunny is an Actress that used her ability. Why? Because if she died last night (as she did), orange mafia loses. Yeah it's fun for screwing with people after death, but she accomplishes nothing with it. It's possible in my opinion she didn't do anything, so either no det/invest catches her up to funny business, or she attacked Cryptonic (?dat doctor?), but didn't actually attack.

[Citrus]

Anyways, my bet right now is there's 2 members of the red mafia left and that's it.

Framer/Lookout fit each other for pairings.

Invest/Consig fit each other for pairings.

If we believe each pairing has its counterpart in this game, there could well be a Janitor.

And then final roles, maybe an escort/consort? It's possible Bunny was role-blocked by the escort/consort, which leads to two total roleblocks last night.


So in conclusion I'm thinking Janitor/Consort right now for the remainder of the red mafia.



To add to my last post: Bunny could also be a legit Framer, and she framed in the hopes of helping a mislynch, to reduce town numbers, since a mafia had died d1. I just really don't think she's an Actress that acted haha, I at least would not do that if I were her. Plus since there's already a dead consig, I doubt they'd have TWO from the same invest pairings on the SAME mafia team.

[Hypersniper]

im british thats why such a late post anyway i think we definitely have a escort and red maf have a consort
i think if anyone blocked bunny it would be the consort and the escort blocked someone else

[Hypersniper]

my role list

Consort
Actress

Consig (dead)
Framer (dead)

Lookout (dead)
Investigator
Escort
Vigilante
Scientist
Scientist
Scientist
Scientist

[Citrus]

Oh wow I'm dumb, yeah she would have to be red mafia then. Just ignore me >.>

I still think actress is not likely due to investigative pairings (consig vs. Actress), but could be wrong

[Citrus]

What hypersniper said but replace janitor for actress; that way they have a choice on who should kill/ability up imo

[NoctiZ]

PoD is dead. Lol

Oops brain fart. In my defense, it was 4 am and I had some beers.

[RLVG]

There's... A missing orange kill?

Well, this is the reason I voted thinking you would pin a RB on someone else.

I was roleblocked.

Either Bunny did nothing, or we have two roleblockers essentially revealing one of the Red Mafia.

[RLVG]

I was roleblocked.

This should also prove me Non-Mafia.

1. Red Mafia would not roleblock themselves or their partner.
2. Red Mafia Kill still happened.

Unless of course it was an Escort, which I then like to understand why an Escort would target me.

If I were mafia, I would have to be the Non-Killing one due to successfull kill, and the Consorts are not notified of Roleblocks.

[Hypersniper]

i can think of a few ways why i would roleblock you as a escort

[Hypersniper]

im debating to reveal my role or not since i have been softclaiming a lot

[RLVG]

im debating to reveal my role or not since i have been softclaiming a lot

Just claim, otherwise you're guranteed scum for mentioning it and not continue the word.

[Slaol]

This should also prove me Non-Mafia.

1. Red Mafia would not roleblock themselves or their partner.
2. Red Mafia Kill still happened.

Unless of course it was an Escort, which I then like to understand why an Escort would target me.

If I were mafia, I would have to be the Non-Killing one due to successfull kill, and the Consorts are not notified of Roleblocks.

Wrong. The player would get the feedback. The role blocking Escort would not be alerted to the failure.
Scummy.
Also, the role block was sent to poriominia. When apparently it was for RLVG. Host must have mixed up the mafia members. ;)