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September 21st, 2013, 05:52 PM
Day 9 has begun.

Nobody died last night.

- Living Players -
FM Ajantis
FM Cernd
FM Coran
FM Faldorn
FM Garrick
FM Haer-Dalis
FM Kagain
FM Khalid
FM Kivan
FM Korgan
FM Montaron
FM Nalia
FM Tiax
FM Xzar
FM Yeslick
FM Yoshimo

- The Deceased -
FM Edwin the Cleric - beaten to death by enraged adventurers
FM Skie the Enchanter - killed by a trap
FM Eldoth the Explorer - killed by a trap
FM Viconia the Explorer - burnt to a crisp by enraged adventurers
FM Minsc the Herald - died by magic
FM Mazzy the Assassin - died by weapons
FM Quayle the Illusionist - died by magic
FM Safana the ??? - died by weapons
FM Sarevok the Arcane Trickster - died by magic
FM Anomen the Explorer - beheaded by enraged adventurers
FM Imoen the Diviner killed by a trap.
FM Alora the Harper Guardian - struck down by Bhaal's wrath.
FM Shar-Teel the Quartermaster - hanged by enraged adventurers.
FM Jaheira the Explorer - stoned by enraged adventurers
FM Branwen the Avenger - died by weapons
FM Keldorn the Bard - killed by a trap
FM Jan the Doppelganger - drowned by enraged adventurers
FM Aerie the Ranger - died by weapons
FM Dynaheir the Grave Robber - died by magic
FM Xan the Evoker - died by weapons and magic
FM Valygar the Prophet - impaled on a pike by enraged adventurers

Day 9 ends at this time: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=0%3A30+gmt+september+24th+2013

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the hammer will end the day

FM Yeslick
September 21st, 2013, 05:53 PM
Is this the part where we choose between Harpers and the Ball Spawn?

FM Korgan
September 21st, 2013, 05:59 PM
I guess. When the ghost doesn't pop up today we know cult is ded.

FM Kagain
September 21st, 2013, 06:00 PM
Is this the part where we choose between Harpers and the Ball Spawn?

Possible, depends if cult is really all gone, but another question is are we going to give kilhad his fun times, personally i would like to

FM Yeslick
September 21st, 2013, 06:04 PM
Possible, depends if cult is really all gone, but another question is are we going to give kilhad his fun times, personally i would like to

I'd support a Khalid lynch today if both Harpers and Montaron voted him. Provided Khalid gets 2 kills today. That's real fun time, and not at my expense.

FM Kagain
September 21st, 2013, 06:05 PM
I'd support a Khalid lynch today if both Harpers and Montaron voted him. Provided Khalid gets 2 kills today. That's real fun time, and not at my expense.

well you should vote too

FM Yeslick
September 21st, 2013, 06:06 PM
If we aren't going to lynch Khalid today, then I would suggest....as shitty as this sounds for all he's done...lynching the Ball Spawn.

If there's no Cult left --> Town and Harpers win the game
If there's a Cult left --> Potential Cult ally dies

FM Korgan
September 21st, 2013, 06:06 PM
Days are still 48 hours. We have plenty of time for decisions! :)

FM Yeslick
September 21st, 2013, 06:08 PM
If Jester is lynched, I request that you either kill Montaron + some random scummy person, or both Harpers.

I'm letting the Jester think he's the one that gets to pick which faction wins.... ;) I'm the one that can heal.

FM Kagain
September 21st, 2013, 06:11 PM
We are still missing some claims btw... i think if we have ghost he should announce so we can decide that

FM Korgan
September 21st, 2013, 06:12 PM
The ghost can't possess anyone anymore if he has accomplished his goal.

FM Yeslick
September 21st, 2013, 06:12 PM
Everyone should claim. I didn't successfully heal last night, so it's likely that Cult doesn't have any assassins.

FM Kagain
September 21st, 2013, 06:17 PM
The ghost can't possess anyone anymore if he has accomplished his goal.

I know. thats why we wait to see if a ghost will reveal if we have any. do you wish to claim antagonist or still have duke?

FM Kagain
September 21st, 2013, 06:18 PM
well im gonna go out for a bit. but i will see what we do

FM Korgan
September 21st, 2013, 06:19 PM
I am...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/61/Duke_Nukem_3D_Coverart.png
You mad Valygar? :D :D :D

FM Korgan
September 21st, 2013, 06:21 PM
Oh and i was heartwarded last night. If it matters. Well i know that it matters for at least someone.

FM Korgan
September 21st, 2013, 06:23 PM
Oh and thx Quayle for your super stupid reveal on Day 2. You basicly destroyed all my chances to get MVP with your stupidity. Good job!

FM Korgan
September 21st, 2013, 06:25 PM
The irony is so strong in that picture. Ohmyjeebus!

FM Kagain
September 21st, 2013, 06:26 PM
I am...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/61/Duke_Nukem_3D_Coverart.png
You mad Valygar? :D :D :D


Incognito: Win as a Mayor without revealing yourself. (+75)
This does not apply if you were an unrevealed Mayor who was recruited to be a Cultist, even if you win.
You must also survive to the end.

this might be a thing

FM Yeslick
September 21st, 2013, 06:42 PM
y dont u reveal and lead us

FM Ajantis
September 21st, 2013, 07:07 PM
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Necromancer) - Montaron
Hidden Neutral (Bounty Hunter) - Nalia
Hidden Neutral (Thief/Lunatic) - Khalid
Hidden Neutral (Druid) - Tiax
Hidden Neutral (Antagonist) - Coran?
Hidden Harper (Harper Agent) - Xzar
Explorer (Harper Alchemist) - Kagain
Duke - Korgan?
Hidden Adventurer (Ritualist) - Cernd
Hidden Adventurer (Heartwarder) - Kivan
Hidden Adventurer (Cleric) - Yeslick?
Hidden Adventurer (?) - Garrick
Hidden Adventurer - Yoshimo?
Hidden Adventurer (Explorer) - Faldorn?
Explorer - Haer-Dalis
Explorer - Ajantis


Dead:

The Prophet - Valygar
Hidden Cultist (Quartermaster) - Shar-Teel
Assassin (Arcane Trickter) - Sarevok
Assassin? - Jan
Assassin - Mazzy
Hidden Adventurer (Herald) - Minsc
Hidden Adventurer (Bard)- Keldorn
Hidden Adventurer (Explorer/Graverobber) - Dynaheir
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Doppelganger) - Safana
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Evoker) - Xan
Hidden Neutral (Avenger) - Branwen
Hidden Harper (Harper Guardian) - Alora
Cleric - Edwin
Hidden Adventurer (Enchanter) - Skie
Hidden Adventurer (Diviner) - Imoen
Hidden Adventurer (Illusionist) - Quayle
Hidden Adventurer (Ranger) - Aerie
Explorer - Eldoth
Explorer - Viconia
Explorer - Anomen
Explorer - Jaheira


Culting:

N1-3: ???, Keldorn, Minsc
N4: Dynaheir
N5: (failed on Harper)
N6: (Bounty contract)

No successful double culting through Heartwarder chat at all.


Day 4: Carnage

FM Quayle the Illusionist - died by magic (killed by Necromancer)
FM Sarevok the Arcane Trickster - died by magic (killed by Necromancer)
FM Minsc the Herald - died by magic (killed by Necromancer)
FM Jan the Assassin - died by weapons (killed by Doppelganger)
FM Mazzy the Assassin - died by weapons (killed by Bounty Hunter)

FM Ajantis
September 21st, 2013, 07:09 PM
Or maybe

N1-3: Keldorn, Minsc, Dynaheir
N4: ???

FM Kagain
September 21st, 2013, 07:36 PM
I wonder....

if duke is converted before the reveal does he become an assassin or only a duke. im surpirsed the duke has yet to come out in the open and claim

FM Kagain
September 21st, 2013, 07:36 PM
I wonder....

if duke is converted before the reveal does he become an assassin or only a duke. im surpirsed the duke has yet to come out in the open and claim

fix that color

FM Coran
September 21st, 2013, 08:03 PM
Yo!

I got attacked last night and survived ;)

Told you I was Antagonist.

FM Coran
September 21st, 2013, 08:05 PM
Also, Omg my target was the prophet o_O

FM Kagain
September 21st, 2013, 08:30 PM
Yo!

I got attacked last night and survived ;)

Told you I was Antagonist.

just for clarification

where does Antagonist get his night immunity in OoO i cant seem to find it

i would suspect right away but you never know

FM Yoshimo
September 21st, 2013, 09:19 PM
Annoying. My posts per page got changed from 20 to noobzor 50 by Branimo. Yes 50 is shit SHIT.

Initially I thought Ajantis or HD must be lying, but checking the Hidden Adventurer possibilities shows Hidden Adventurers can be Explorers too.

I am a Shitizen of House Explorer, the 6th(?) of my name.

FM Ajantis
September 21st, 2013, 10:15 PM
Minor update:

Hidden Bhaalspawn (Necromancer) - Montaron
Hidden Neutral (Bounty Hunter) - Nalia
Hidden Neutral (Thief/Lunatic) - Khalid
Hidden Neutral (Druid) - Tiax
Hidden Neutral (Antagonist) - Coran
Hidden Harper (Harper Agent) - Xzar
Explorer (Harper Alchemist) - Kagain
Duke - Korgan
Hidden Adventurer (Ritualist) - Cernd
Hidden Adventurer (Heartwarder) - Kivan
Hidden Adventurer (Cleric) - Yeslick
Hidden Adventurer (?) - Garrick
Hidden Adventurer (Explorer) - Yoshimo
Hidden Adventurer (Explorer) - Faldorn
Explorer - Haer-Dalis
Explorer - Ajantis

Yellow - confirmed unculted
Yellow - unlikely to be culted
Yellow - might be culted

FM Ajantis
September 21st, 2013, 10:15 PM
Where is Branwen though...

FM Khalid

FM Yoshimo
September 21st, 2013, 10:32 PM
Why are you, Yeslick, and Garrick supposedly less likely to be Culted than me? I was blocked N6, surely I'm the least likely of all of you.

FM Kivan
September 21st, 2013, 10:34 PM
Hmm Nights are 24h now? It ended so fast.

Also: DAT FLIP!

Funny how I targeted Prophet very first day xD But that makes Korgan potential Cult. Valygar could see that Korgan is smarter than he looks in the chat. It's not definite proof, seeing how he chose to kill instead of convert I believe he was playing very cautiously.

FM Kivan
September 21st, 2013, 10:37 PM
Also if it matters I joined Xzar and Korgan. I was pretty sure Xzar would be attacked (investigative role and shit) so I joined him with someone I believe is culted.

FM Kivan
September 21st, 2013, 10:39 PM
Also if it matters I joined Xzar and Korgan. I was pretty sure Xzar would be attacked (investigative role and shit) so I joined him with someone I believe is culted.

Of course if Xzar ignored my plea and told Korgan his name then Cult would know that Xzar can't be attacked.

FM Khalid
September 21st, 2013, 10:42 PM
That flip had me chuckling I must say. The cult didn't need an Avenger down their throats also.

But ah well, fine by me heheh. If Coran was really attacked there's that. Unless someone claims to have attacked him, since it would confirm his Antagonism

FM Kivan
September 21st, 2013, 10:47 PM
Am I the only one who finds it very odd that Valygar used contract instead of recruiting?

Sure, it could expose him, but it was night 6...Even if he were to be lynched, he would have recruited someone else to replace him.

So if Xzar was really "converted" n5 we have 4 cultings max.

FM Ajantis
September 21st, 2013, 10:54 PM
Am I the only one who finds it very odd that Valygar used contract instead of recruiting?

Sure, it could expose him, but it was night 6...Even if he were to be lynched, he would have recruited someone else to replace him.

So if Xzar was really "converted" n5 we have 4 cultings max.

Remember that everyone thought IS is gonna be opened by Khalid... perhaps he is confident of Khalid...

Forgot Faldorn is cleared... and Branwen is missing...

FM Yeslick
September 21st, 2013, 10:55 PM
My god...Branwen better not have possessed Cernd.

FM Yeslick
September 21st, 2013, 10:58 PM
FM Cernd
FM Faldorn
FM Garrick
FM Haer-Dalis
FM Montaron
FM Nalia
FM Tiax
FM Xzar

pls respond. If there turns out to be no Ghost, what should we do? Lynch the Ball Spawn? Lynch the Lunatic?

FM Xzar
September 21st, 2013, 11:36 PM
I'm not possessed. I checked Korgan for safety measures and he came up NS, all fine and dandy.

FM Kivan
September 21st, 2013, 11:39 PM
Remember that everyone thought IS is gonna be opened by Khalid... perhaps he is confident of Khalid...

Forgot Faldorn is cleared... and Branwen is missing...

Well, this is true! Now we HAVE TO give Khalid his win:P

FM Kivan
September 21st, 2013, 11:40 PM
I'm not possessed. I checked Korgan for safety measures and he came up NS, all fine and dandy.

How your feedback looks exactly, btw?

FM Ajantis
September 21st, 2013, 11:41 PM
Yeslick can undouse Faildorn to confirm himself.

FM Yeslick
September 21st, 2013, 11:42 PM
Yeslick can undouse Faildorn to confirm himself.

I'd rather let him roast. Cernd can confirm me. Cernd pls respond

FM Ajantis
September 21st, 2013, 11:47 PM
FM Cernd - Confirmed Ritualist
FM Kagain - Confirmed Harper
FM Khalid - Confirmed Thief
FM Kivan - Confirmed Heartwarder
FM Montaron - Confirmed Necromancer
FM Nalia - Confirmed Bounty Hunter
FM Xzar - Confirmed Harper

FM Faldorn - Cleared by Harpers
FM Korgan - Cleared by Harpers

FM Ajantis - Voted Keldorn
FM Garrick - Voted Keldorn
FM Haer-Dalis - Voted Keldorn
FM Yeslick - Claimed Cleric
FM Yoshimo - Roleblocked by Keldorn
FM Coran
FM Tiax

Either a Neutral was converted, Keldorn roleblocked a fellow Cult or Cult bussed Keldorn.

FM Kivan
September 21st, 2013, 11:47 PM
I'm curious why anybody would attack Coran to be honest. And I don't really trust this claim too.

I can't believe how screwed Cult got in this game. Antagonist targeting Prophet? Avenger against Cult? Lucky burns? Even Bhaalspawns openly sided with Town, something I wonder Hosts predicted.

FM Nalia
September 21st, 2013, 11:48 PM
I don't want to see Montaron die. He made us many more favors than both Harpers compined. Glory to the Bhaalspawn!

And my client refused to kill anyone, so no point in telling you his name anyway.

FM Ajantis
September 21st, 2013, 11:49 PM
Cult is screwed by traitorous recruits in his previous MFM too...

FM Xzar
September 21st, 2013, 11:50 PM
How your feedback looks exactly, btw?

Your target appears to be untainted.

Your target appears to be untainted.

FM Yeslick
September 21st, 2013, 11:59 PM
Suddenly Kivan's heartward ability seems so much more useful for finding that last Cultist.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 12:00 AM
Town MVP - Tymora.

FM Nalia
September 22nd, 2013, 12:01 AM
I wish I would really get the alchemist's fire myself so that I could kill that last remaining cultist.

FM Nalia
September 22nd, 2013, 12:03 AM
Let's get a look at it. My client did not kill anyone. Yet Coran was attacked last night. Do you think that he was attacked by the cult or the guy with alchemist's fire?

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 12:11 AM
Your target appears to be untainted.

Your target appears to be untainted.

KK. You made it sound as if you received only one feedback and I got suspicious^^

Yeslick is right, I think I should join forces with Xzar. Yeslick will heal one of us to provide real and WIFOM safety.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 12:12 AM
Just lynch Khalid and end day thanks. Make it 24 hours or something. It's getting boring.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 12:12 AM
Let's get a look at it. My client did not kill anyone. Yet Coran was attacked last night. Do you think that he was attacked by the cult or the guy with alchemist's fire?

Coran seems like a Alchemist's fire target, but let's wait for feedbacks.

Garrick, I want you to claim.

^Should be visible enough:P

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 12:16 AM
So we lynch Khalid, let's Lunatic-check Tiax and...hm, Haer-Dalis maybe?

And how about Kivan-Xzar targets? I think Ajantis and Yoshimo.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 12:19 AM
So we lynch Khalid, let's Lunatic-check Tiax and...hm, Haer-Dalis maybe?

And how about Kivan-Xzar targets? I think Ajantis and Yoshimo.

Check the neutrals, kill the Explorer claimers.

Tiax-Coran, Explorers vote Khalid.

FM Yeslick
September 22nd, 2013, 12:25 AM
So we lynch Khalid, let's Lunatic-check Tiax and...hm, Haer-Dalis maybe?

And how about Kivan-Xzar targets? I think Ajantis and Yoshimo.

Yoshimo and Haer-Dalis seems better. Ajantis has been very helpful and on the Valygar hype train so very unlikely to be scum.

FM Nalia
September 22nd, 2013, 12:36 AM
I'm not interested in lynching someone who could be a Lunatic. I'll abstain from voting today, and probably won't do any more contracts again. I'll leave the rest up to you, guys!

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 12:39 AM
I'm not interested in lynching someone who is a Lunatic. I'll abstain from voting today, and probably won't do any more contracts again. I'll leave the rest up to you, guys!

FTFY

Wow dat cult haha. Yeah I'm fine with attacking whoever, Tiax and whatever you guys want, or alternately Montaron and the Harpers can play my very own gameshow for the chance to win ^^.

My goal with that fake claim was to survive dousing but also to hopefully fake the cult out, so it seems it worked haha. Sadly due to my plane ride and unfamiliarity with Vignere Ciphers (plus a little alcohol), it was decrypted quite easily before the night action deadline, but things worked out fine so who am I to complain eh?

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:12 AM
Garrick, I want you to claim.

FM Garrick is an Explorer. FM Garrick has tried to pretend to be a town PR the whole entire game except FM Garrick kept predicting peoples roles incorrectly. FM Garrick hoped to be a night kill target if the cult thought FM Garrick had extra information due to being a power role.

FM Garrick also really does not want to be recruited to the Harpers because as town FM Garrick can win with either the Harpers or the Bhaalspawn. This is why FM Garrick has claimed to be pro-Bhaalspawn for the entire game.

FM Garrick also breadcrumbed that Player Name is Role based on FM Garrick's night action which is taking notes and reviewing the day chats. FM Garrick would rather be killed at night as an explorer than recruited by the Harpers.

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 01:13 AM
If it's a gameshow we can play Jeopardy, or whatever else you guys want?

Also lolgarrick

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:15 AM
FM Garrick is an Explorer. FM Garrick has tried to pretend to be a town PR the whole entire game except FM Garrick kept predicting peoples roles incorrectly. FM Garrick hoped to be a night kill target if the cult thought FM Garrick had extra information due to being a power role.

FM Garrick also really does not want to be recruited to the Harpers because as town FM Garrick can win with either the Harpers or the Bhaalspawn. This is why FM Garrick has claimed to be pro-Bhaalspawn for the entire game.

FM Garrick also breadcrumbed that Player Name is Role based on FM Garrick's night action which is taking notes and reviewing the day chats. FM Garrick would rather be killed at night as an explorer than recruited by the Harpers.

Just vote Khalid you Culted PR.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:17 AM
Players who are not possessed by FM Branwen. FM Branwen can just claim being FM Branwen and has no reason to lie.

Name Possessed
FM Ajantis no
FM Cernd
FM Coran no
FM Faldorn
FM Garrick no
FM Haer-Dalis
FM Kagain no
FM Khalid no
FM Kivan no
FM Korgan no
FM Montaron
FM Nalia no
FM Tiax
FM Xzar no
FM Yeslick no
FM Yoshimo no

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:18 AM
Just vote Khalid you Culted PR.

FM Garrick can not be culted based on FM Garrick voting FM Keldorn on N6.

FM Cernd can reveal all FM Cernd's results now to prove that FM Cernd was not recruited.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 01:19 AM
I'm pretty sure Garrick needs to be checked. Garrick-Yoshimo, Xzar?

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:20 AM
FM Garrick can not be culted based on FM Garrick voting FM Keldorn on N6.

FM Cernd can reveal all FM Cernd's results now to prove that FM Cernd was not recruited.

That's called bussing. Just vote Khalid. We are lynching him today. Stop acting like Shar-Teel.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 01:20 AM
FM Garrick can not be culted based on FM Garrick voting FM Keldorn on N6.

FM Cernd can reveal all FM Cernd's results now to prove that FM Cernd was not recruited.

But FM Garrick is really self-aware and would have no trouble doing this just to say such things later.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:20 AM
If anyone is culted, FM Garrick suspects FM Cernd.

Not cult:
FM Kivan - Heartwarded on N7
FM Montaron - Necromancer, Prophet would be dead if FM Montaron was converted.
FM Khalid - Thief/Lunatic, wanted to be lynched on D7
FM Xzar - Harper Agent
FM Kagain - voted on FM Keldorn N6 and Harper Alchemist
FM Ajantis - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Haer-Dalis - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Garrick - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Yoshimo - roleblocked N6 by culted Bard [night culted Bard died so he was not culted N6]
FM Nalia - gave a contract to FM Valygar on N6

Probably not cult:
FM Yeslick - Cleric, not prophet? FM Yeslick was interviewed by the culted Herald N3 and roleblocked by the culted? Bard N3.
FM Tiax - Druid
FM Faldorn - plays contrary to an explorer with an early Druid claim.

Suspects:
FM Cernd - Ritualist who did not reveal all clues, wants to lynch a confirmed Harper
FM Coran – claims antagonist with FM Valygar as target
FM Korgan - potential culted Duke

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:22 AM
Nalia apparently I need a gun tonight. To kill the last cult. Would you kindly contract me? Thanks.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:23 AM
That's called bussing. Just vote Khalid. We are lynching him today. Stop acting like Shar-Teel.

FM Garrick dislikes anybody to discredit FM Garrick. FM Garrick is not acting like FM Shar-Teel. What does FM Ajantis mean by acting like FM Shar-Teel?

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:24 AM
Valygar only converted N1-4. So your "Cernd culted" is retarded since you never said that he faked Mazzy's last will.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:24 AM
And Korgan cleared by Xzar.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:25 AM
Faldorn too.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 01:26 AM
That's called bussing. Just vote Khalid. We are lynching him today. Stop acting like Shar-Teel.

Ajantis, yesterday you were really opposed to lynching Khalid because we didn't have confirmed Duke. What makes you think that Korgan is 100% Duke?

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 01:26 AM
Ajantis, yesterday you were really opposed to lynching Khalid because we didn't have confirmed Duke. What makes you think that Korgan is 100% Duke?

Right, Xzar. I am such a Moron.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:26 AM
Valygar only converted N1-4. So your "Cernd culted" is retarded since you never said that he faked Mazzy's last will.

FM Cernd could be culted on N4. FM Cernd has not revealed any results after N4 to prove FM Cernd is not a graverobber. FM Cernd did not even confirm if FM Jan was an assassin or not.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:26 AM
Korgan cleared by Xzar... and claimed "Duke Nukem".

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:27 AM
FM Cernd could be culted on N4. FM Cernd has not revealed any results after N4 to prove FM Cernd is not a graverobber. FM Cernd did not even confirm if FM Jan was an assassin or not.

Culting is before checking dead bodies. Read OoO.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 01:28 AM
Korgan cleared by Xzar... and claimed "Duke Nukem".

Sorry, brainfart ;)

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:28 AM
Faldorn too.

FM Xzar checked FM Faldorn on N3 so FM Faldorn could be converted on N4. FM Faldorn is not clear yet.


FM Xzar Harper Agent Actions[7.557]
N1 Cernd
N2 Branwen
N3: Faldorn NS [7.502]
N4 Aerie

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:29 AM
Korgan cleared by Xzar... and claimed "Duke Nukem".

Where did FM Xzar post all his targets? FM Garrick only has N1-N4.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:30 AM
FM Xzar checked FM Faldorn on N3 so FM Faldorn could be converted on N4. FM Faldorn is not clear yet.


FM Xzar Harper Agent Actions[7.557]
N1 Cernd
N2 Branwen
N3: Faldorn NS [7.502]
N4 Aerie

Reasonable. Faildorn should burn tonight. Townpoints for Montaron for serving roasted Druid.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:31 AM
I don't like it that all the Explorers lurked and refused to vote Khalid. Just bloody end this day in 24 hours.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:32 AM
FM Cernd is clear. Updated the list.

Not cult:
FM Kivan - Heartwarded on N7
FM Montaron - Necromancer, Prophet would be dead if FM Montaron was converted.
FM Khalid - Thief/Lunatic, wanted to be lynched on D7
FM Xzar - Harper Agent
FM Kagain - voted on FM Keldorn N6 and Harper Alchemist

Not cult as of N6 results:
FM Ajantis - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Haer-Dalis - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Garrick - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Yoshimo - roleblocked N6 by culted Bard [night culted Bard died so he was not culted N6]
FM Nalia - gave a contract to FM Valygar on N6
FM Cernd - Ritualist

Probably not cult:
FM Yeslick - Cleric, not prophet? FM Yeslick was interviewed by the culted Herald N3 and roleblocked by the culted? Bard N3.
FM Tiax - Druid

Suspects:
FM Faldorn - potential Prophet, plays contrary to an explorer with an early Druid claim.
FM Coran – claims antagonist with FM Valygar as target
FM Korgan - Duke

FM Garrick can not be sure that FM Korgan is not culted based on not knowing when FM Korgan was checked. Please share FM Xzar's night targets if you know them.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 01:34 AM
Ok, so I propose:

Ajantis, Coran, Faldorn, Garrick, Haer-Dalis, Montaron, Tiax, Yoshimo. Please vote Khalid guys.

Normally I would suggest Kagain too, but if he will die Xzar will have to recruit tonight to secure his win. I feel bad about making Montaron a target, but we lack Explorer claimers:P

Targets for Khalid: Tiax and...Yoshimo maybe?

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 01:36 AM
Once again I'm forgetting Yoshimo was supposedly blocked by Keldorn. Perhaps yesterday's drinking affected me more than I thought.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:36 AM
I don't like it that all the Explorers lurked and refused to vote Khalid. Just bloody end this day in 24 hours.

No need to rush. FM Garrick wants to see everybody check in as not Branwen before lynching FM Khalid. FM Garrick requests that FM Montaron live instead of the Harpers. FM Montaron killed 2 cultists and helped boost morale the whole game.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:38 AM
No need to attack Tiax and Coran. Just heartward them to be check or something. They are confirmed "neutrals".

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:38 AM
Targets for FM Khalid are FM Xzar and FM Kagain. FM Garrick is not going to vote the Lunatic unless FM Khalid is killing both of the Harpers without interference from FM Yeslick. FM Garrick feels very strongly that FM Montaron should win with the town.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 01:38 AM
Garrick, Xzar checked Korgan and Xzar today.

So now we know Xzar is not Cult because he checked himself an he appears to be not Cult... But if he is Cult, he will lie about it... DAMN!

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:40 AM
Targets for FM Khalid are FM Xzar and FM Kagain. FM Garrick is not going to vote the Lunatic unless FM Khalid is killing both of the Harpers without interference from FM Yeslick. FM Garrick feels very strongly that FM Montaron should win with the town.

Bhaalspawn-Harpers war is not our business. You are just afraid of Harper Agent, you scum.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 01:41 AM
No need to attack Tiax and Coran. Just heartward them to be check or something. They are confirmed "neutrals".

Why would be wasting time with checking Neutrals this way?

My way (Khalid on neutrals, checking 2 Explorers) = 4 players cleared, 0 dead

Your way (checking 2 neutrals, killing 2 Explorers) = 4 players cleared, 2 dead

I prefer to play it safe. Find Cult, then lynch him.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:41 AM
Garrick, Xzar checked Korgan and Xzar today.

So now we know Xzar is not Cult because he checked himself an he appears to be not Cult... But if he is Cult, he will lie about it... DAMN!

What is N5, N6, and N7 for FM Xzar?


FM Xzar Harper Agent Actions[7.557]
N1 Cernd
N2 Branwen
N3: Faldorn NS [7.502]
N4 Aerie
N8 Korgan and Xzar

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:41 AM
Garrick, Xzar checked Korgan and Xzar today.

So now we know Xzar is not Cult because he checked himself an he appears to be not Cult... But if he is Cult, he will lie about it... DAMN!

Ask Korgan to reveal and vote.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:43 AM
Bhaalspawn-Harpers war is not our business. You are just afraid of Harper Agent, you scum.

FM Garrick is not afraid. FM Garrick just refuses to backstab the neutral that helped the Adventurers the whole game and was completely honest with us. What did the Harpers ever do? FM Garrick worries that the Harpers will win because there are two of them. FM Garrick hates roles that can recruit and change alignments.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:43 AM
FM Xzar is immune to culting so FM Xzar has no reason to lie about FM Korgan.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:45 AM
Why would be wasting time with checking Neutrals this way?

My way (Khalid on neutrals, checking 2 Explorers) = 4 players cleared, 0 dead

Your way (checking 2 neutrals, killing 2 Explorers) = 4 players cleared, 2 dead

I prefer to play it safe. Find Cult, then lynch him.

FM Garrick's way is to wait for everyone to check in and not reveal as FM Branwen. If there is no FM Branwen then there are no more cults alive.

FM Khalid can be lynched, but FM Garrick wants FM Khalid to kill the Harpers to give FM Montaron the win. Do not let FM Xzar and FM Kagain not vote the Lunatic.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 01:46 AM
I also think Montaron deserves the win. Unfortunately, we can't really do something about it because Xzar is the only investigative we have.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:47 AM
What is N5, N6, and N7 for FM Xzar?


FM Xzar Harper Agent Actions[7.557]
N1 Cernd
N2 Branwen
N3: Faldorn NS [7.502]
N4 Aerie
N8 Korgan and Xzar

N5 (recruit)
N6 (recruit???)
N7 Dynaheir

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 01:47 AM
FM Garrick's way is to wait for everyone to check in and not reveal as FM Branwen. If there is no FM Branwen then there are no more cults alive.

FM Khalid can be lynched, but FM Garrick wants FM Khalid to kill the Harpers to give FM Montaron the win. Do not let FM Xzar and FM Kagain not vote the Lunatic.

You want to kill our only investigative role and neutral who have no way of screwing us? So Townie of you.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:48 AM
I also think Montaron deserves the win. Unfortunately, we can't really do something about it because Xzar is the only investigative we have.

If FM Branwen does not reveal as a player then FM Branwen won by eliminating the cult. Then we know that there is no cult left and it only is between the Harpers and the Bhaalspawn. FM Garrick wants to wait and see if any of the players who didn't post are FM Branwen.

FM Branwen has no reason not to claim because FM Branwen is against the cult since FM Valygar killed FM Branwen.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:49 AM
FM Garrick's way is to wait for everyone to check in and not reveal as FM Branwen. If there is no FM Branwen then there are no more cults alive.

FM Khalid can be lynched, but FM Garrick wants FM Khalid to kill the Harpers to give FM Montaron the win. Do not let FM Xzar and FM Kagain not vote the Lunatic.
Stop being a retard, imbecile and advocating gamethrowing. Harpers and Montaron won't vote Khalid. If Montaron didn't burn by then or Harpers fail to find volunteers to kill Montaron, after we lynch Khalid, we can make the decisions later.

Now vote Khalid.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:50 AM
You want to kill our only investigative role and neutral who have no way of screwing us? So Townie of you.

FM Garrick does not mind being killed by Alchemist fire tonight. FM Garrick does not want to get recruited to the Harpers and FM Garrick wants to give FM Montaron the win. FM Garrick does not think the Harpers deserve to win and that is that.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:50 AM
FM Kagain

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:51 AM
Stop being a retard, imbecile and advocating gamethrowing. Harpers and Montaron won't vote Khalid. If Montaron didn't burn by then or Harpers fail to find volunteers to kill Montaron, after we lynch Khalid, we can make the decisions later.

Now vote Khalid.

There. FM Garrick hopes that FM Montaron doused the other one last night.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 01:52 AM
Whatever... Garrick is the last Cult. Lets give Khalid his win before dealing with Garrick tomorrow.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 01:55 AM
GGGarrick.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 01:59 AM
FM Garrick is called a cult for wanting to win with the one neutral that remained loyal to the town the entire time. This does not make sense at all. FM Garrick does not want to screw FM Montaron over.

What will we do if FM Branwen does not show up today? Will you still send FM Montaron to certain death? That is no way to treat a town ally who has been with us the whole game.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 02:02 AM
FM Garrick is called a cult for wanting to win with the one neutral that remained loyal to the town the entire time. This does not make sense at all. FM Garrick does not want to screw FM Montaron over.

What will we do if FM Branwen does not show up today? Will you still send FM Montaron to certain death? That is no way to treat a town ally who has been with us the whole game.
Only explorers will be dying, eg. YOU.

Neutrals and Harpers are not involved.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 02:04 AM
List of things to do

1. Cernd claim all night results
2. Xzar claim all night results
3. Check if FM Branwen is still here

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 02:04 AM
Only explorers will be dying, eg. YOU.

Neutrals and Harpers are not involved.

Will you side with the Harpers or the Bhaalspawn? Just answer me about that.

FM Garrick
September 22nd, 2013, 02:05 AM
FM Garrick would like to remind you that we would not have a chance at winning without FM Montaron support.

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 02:16 AM
Honestly Garrick, I don't understand why your panties have gotten all up into a bunch today. So called "pro-neutral", but you're refusing to vote me? The plans we have as of now clear a great deal of players per Kivan's comment.

Plus keep in mind if Kivan heartwards, he can amplify what I do.

I also am fine with not killing anyone, I don't have to, and I'd be happy just being lynched and getting my win as well as the Adventurers etc. I'm honestly very flexible with what I do at this point - though I too think it would be fun if Montaron and the Harpers have a Mexican standoff with me holding all the guns :D

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 02:42 AM
Khalid, I think I'd be most happy with you going for Coran and Tiax. So far nobody claimed attacking Coran, which is weird.

Sure, we have 5 neutral claimers and all seems to be just fine, but we may have Amnesiac here, who decided to go Cult very early.

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 03:51 AM
Branwen here, reading, then ill post a bit.

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 04:14 AM
Ah, well there we go, we have a cultist left. The fun thing is, if we figure out who it is, Branwen could possess them and force them to vote me ;D.

I'm fine with voting whoever I am asked to today, I think we can with fair certainty say there is only 1 cultist left. Though obviously would prefer to be lynched, and then will attack whomever I am asked to.

Interestingly, it appears we have a Cult PR left, since no kill last night

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 04:15 AM
Nalia, keep in mind you may be fearful of voting me and dying, but Kivan could always heartward you with one of the pre-selected targets, so walk softly heh

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 04:26 AM
Btw, in case we can't reach the compromise, you will choose my option, right, Khalid?:*

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 04:30 AM
Ok...

FM Khalid

@Khalid, please consider killing Faldorn... also maybe xzar after he claims his actions to verify he isnt culted and just bullshitting his claims knowing who is untainted and tainted... Shar-teel pulled it off with Jaheira, I don't see why it couldn't be done again to get some support. Aside, I think it would even it up for bhaalspawn/harpers to do their thing...

Montaron can win as long as he survives. A dangerous being, who knows if he is culted or not at this point? If we continue to be suspicious of everyone, no one can blame him for dousing and killing townies later on.

Harpers can prove more to me at this point with their death. So, if their not lynched, then chances are they will not be killed at night. Not to mention plenty of explorer claims, plenty of chances to recruit. Harpers can survive one dead member and continue trying to survive.

Khalid... I keep reading you as cult. Maybe it is just your role's nature now, but you must die today. I think today is the best option to take you out of the equation, also to confirm your information for the rest of us. Maybe just getting rid of you and giving you your win would suffice at this point.

Yoshimo... I didn't mess with your posts per page or whatever your griping at. As far as my reads on you go, same as usual. I don't agree with you, but you seem harmless enough.

FM Garrick, you have forgotten the face of your father.

FM Cernd, really lynch happy, but when put to argument, does make attempts at switching targets based on merit of conversation. A very aggressive, tunneling way to lynch, but I see no reason to suspect him of being cult.

FM Coran, antagonist against cult, attacked last night, should be immune now. Montaron, would you like to verify that Coran cannot be killed?

FM Xzar, when did he get proven? I suspect foul play, but if there is 100% sure evidence he is harper, then harper it is. If not... perhaps he should be proven in the most evident way. Harpers can still survive, and more support from the town would come from it.

Thats about it for now, I told you I would be Faldorn yesterday. I also said I would not hide if you lynched me killer. I stand by my word, here I be. Tomorrow I shall be Nalia.

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 04:33 AM
Btw, in case we can't reach the compromise, you will choose my option, right, Khalid?:*

Yeah your idea sounds fine by me, if we're still scum hunting, considering you're king of super confirmed townliness

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 04:35 AM
@Branwen/Faldorn

Fine by me, idk how I'm giving you a cult read but I'm totally fine with being lynched today if you all wish it. Plus dead chat is hopefully more lively (ha!) then it is in here, or it shall be in the next few days. That being said, Faldorn is doused by Montaron, so we could always let the ignition take that kill if ye wish? Or if Kivan and my targets align, the targets can be raised to 3, and 1 can be anyone Kivan desires.

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 04:37 AM
@Branwen/Faldorn

Fine by me, idk how I'm giving you a cult read but I'm totally fine with being lynched today if you all wish it. Plus dead chat is hopefully more lively (ha!) then it is in here, or it shall be in the next few days. That being said, Faldorn is doused by Montaron, so we could always let the ignition take that kill if ye wish? Or if Kivan and my targets align, the targets can be raised to 3, and 1 can be anyone Kivan desires.

Whatever you desire. I would like to see Faldorn removed, and maybe I will find some peace. Although I was quite tickled that my killer was the Prophet!

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 04:39 AM
I think I am just wary of the nature of the beast. Lynch to win, neutral alignment. You can literally do whatever you want after this, but I think it important to let that happen now more than later. Plus, with the way you played yourself to everyone, you deserve to be lynched should that be what you want. Thief or lunatic, you did a good job.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 04:43 AM
Seriously, Braldorn, you want Xzar - our only investigative role - dead, because you suspect foul play from a freakin' Harper ?! Kagain confirmed him, nobody counterclaimed him - if he is a scum that means that Jan was a Harper. That kinda requires Cernd to not ever check him or to be culted as well.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 04:45 AM
I wonder who received Alchemist's Fire and who attacked Coran.

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 04:46 AM
Seriously, Braldorn, you want Xzar - our only investigative role - dead, because you suspect foul play from a freakin' Harper ?! Kagain confirmed him, nobody counterclaimed him - if he is a scum that means that Jan was a Harper. That kinda requires Cernd to not ever check him or to be culted as well.

Not sure if you are adamant in supporting Xzar, or considering the possibilities. Either way, thank you for the post. Yes, there are many ways to go about things. An explorer backing a Quartermaster disturbed me, and I wouldn't put it past something like that occuring again. So, what if the theory you just proposed (whether serious or not) is true? Can you disprove yourself?

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 04:49 AM
And perhaps Safana did kill Jan the Harper.. maybe that was the cause of his silence the next day. After stating that "it would all be clear" the night before. Perhaps it was a mistake, something he would have done later but not so early.

FM Yoshimo
September 22nd, 2013, 04:54 AM
Yoshimo and Haer-Dalis seems better. Ajantis has been very helpful and on the Valygar hype train so very unlikely to be scum.

Ok, so I propose:
Targets for Khalid: Tiax and...Yoshimo maybe?


Flabbergasted that I'm still getting paraded around as possible cult as it is without a doubt impossible for me to be so.

N6 I was role-blocked by Keldorn the confirmed Cult Rber (no other claims of blocked, so yes it is real). Okay, still conceivable that I could have been recruited N6? No. The confirmed Prophet Valygar chose to use Nalia's contract rather than to convert N6. Next day inner Sanctum opened and Cult lost convert ability.

GG. I will not vote Khalid.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 04:56 AM
Well, I think it's way too far-fetched. Let's assume Xzar is a Cult. This requires:

a) Dead Harpers because we have no counterclaims.
b) Safana had to lie about Jan's role.
c) Bhaal destroyed Harpers chance of victory by modkilling Alora.
d) Kagain has to be scum, since he also claimed Harper.
e) Kagain has to be VERY stupid to claim easily verifiable Harper role.
f) Cernd has to be fishy because he can disprove Jan's claim.
g) Xzar had to be somehow sure that Harpers are dead when he claimed one OR Xzar is stupid and VERY lucky

If Xzar is a Cult, we have 3 Cultists left (obviously he lies about fail recruiting on n5 too). But chance of this is really low.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 04:57 AM
Yoshimo, I've corrected myself like one post later.

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 05:00 AM
Flabbergasted that I'm still getting paraded around as possible cult as it is without a doubt impossible for me to be so.

N6 I was role-blocked by Keldorn the confirmed Cult Rber (no other claims of blocked, so yes it is real). Okay, still conceivable that I could have been recruited N6? No. The confirmed Prophet Valygar chose to use Nalia's contract rather than to convert N6. Next day inner Sanctum opened and Cult lost convert ability.

GG. I will not vote Khalid.

Agreed. I was going to respond that you could have bussed with Bard to verify you were town later on, but there was no chat.

I don't think finding the scummy target is what we need to do now. I think we need to verify the town's. With enough confirmed players voting the day, it comes down to systematically lynching/igniting/alchemist's fire the ones who are not.

Which is why it would probably be best that Faldorn be the lunatic target tonight, with one other of Khalid's choosing. The usage of I am town I will not vote Lunatic in case I die is flawed. Khalid holds information that may suit us in finding more claimed town, and the death of one town is inconsequential to what he offers.

Besides, if the non-pr's will not step up for the pr's at this point, what are you really offering but more confusion and suspicion to the rest? Sacrifice today will make things go much smoother tomorrow.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 05:04 AM
Yoshimo, please explain why you refuse to vote Khalid. I've corrected myself EXACTLY one post later and Yeslick proposed you to be CHECKED, not KILLED. Nobody wants you dead for now.

But even if we had a reason - what kind of Explorer refuses to risk his life for the sake of Town? Faldorn is your family or something?

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 05:06 AM
Well, I think it's way too far-fetched. Let's assume Xzar is a Cult. This requires:

a) Dead Harpers because we have no counterclaims.
b) Safana had to lie about Jan's role.
c) Bhaal destroyed Harpers chance of victory by modkilling Alora.
d) Kagain has to be scum, since he also claimed Harper.
e) Kagain has to be VERY stupid to claim easily verifiable Harper role.
f) Cernd has to be fishy because he can disprove Jan's claim.
g) Xzar had to be somehow sure that Harpers are dead when he claimed one OR Xzar is stupid and VERY lucky

If Xzar is a Cult, we have 3 Cultists left (obviously he lies about fail recruiting on n5 too). But chance of this is really low.

A chance though, nonetheless. There have been many Harper claims, including myself, and not one counter. It would seem to me, if I were cult, that making a Harper claim after all this would seem validated and uncountered after a certain point.

I would like to believe he is a harper, I refuse to accept it completely when other possibilities exist. But in a game of deception, relying on your hopes get you killed.

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 05:08 AM
I would suggest everyone consider the possibility that there are 3 very alive cultists right now, talking in day chat.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 05:09 AM
Faldorn, I don't follow hopes, dreams and other optimistic bullshit, this is just a logic. A lot of various things had to happen independently of each other to make this work. It requires people to make very stupid decisions.

Xzar has to be alive, because having living Harper Agent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance of killing one Cultist. If he is Cult, he will be out of options soon.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 05:11 AM
For now we just have to wait for Kagain to tell us who received the Fire.

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 05:15 AM
For now we just have to wait for Kagain to tell us who received the Fire.

Agreed, just hopefully not a culted lunatic with "alchemist fire" from the 2 harper-cultists bussing each other...

ok, that was just a joke. Khalid is more than likely not a cult... but what if 2 harper claims are cult bussing each other? Then the "alchemist fire" could have gone to the 3rd cult, which could be "assassin's fire" for the remainder of the game while we continue to hear untainted claims until cult has majority vote.

Or maybe I am just paranoid and way too outside the box.

FM Yoshimo
September 22nd, 2013, 05:15 AM
Yoshimo, please explain why you refuse to vote Khalid. I've corrected myself EXACTLY one post later and Yeslick proposed you to be CHECKED, not KILLED. Nobody wants you dead for now.

But even if we had a reason - what kind of Explorer refuses to risk his life for the sake of Town? Faldorn is your family or something?

Even now your suggestion is that that could at some point in the future change.

Your plan is to vote a Jester who can randomly kill whoever the fuck he wants of us. There is 0 reason for him to comply with any suggestions you give him. Hell, there are way to many lols to be had from just murdering the most pro-town of the voters.

I am not risking my life to give a neutral (who has played against our interests the whole game) a win.

You PRs are not worth more than the rest of us anymore. If you want to vote the jester, do it yourselves.

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 05:21 AM
Two thoughts on the list of conditions Kivan posted:

1. Cernd wasn't converted night 6, as the contract was taken. Cernd is confirmed Ritualist - if that's wrong, then I'm lying too, so that's an added condition.

2. I don't think Safana is capable of lying under pressure, between my experience with her in heartwarder nightchat and her performance once she realized the lynchtrain was headed in her direction. I sincerely doubt she would fake Jan's role considering Cernd is around (though he can feel free to pop in anytime now ^^)

I'd be quite shocked if Harpers played no role at all in this game due to Alora being modkilled. At the least she would deserve a replacement you'd think considering the number of Explorer replacements, though I could be wrong.

This the "Harpers" are not lying in my opinion

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 05:22 AM
Even now your suggestion is that that could at some point in the future change.

Your plan is to vote a Jester who can randomly kill whoever the fuck he wants of us. There is 0 reason for him to comply with any suggestions you give him. Hell, there are way to many lols to be had from just murdering the most pro-town of the voters.

I am not risking my life to give a neutral (who has played against our interests the whole game) a win.

You PRs are not worth more than the rest of us anymore. If you want to vote the jester, do it yourselves.

How are you equal to a PR at this point as an explorer? PR is the only thing leading to 100% claimed town roles at this point.

Plus, Khalid COULD tell us his feedback and maybe give us a liar in our midsts. Worst case, we lose 2 people. I would rather have the information he has then risk him dying at night with something important left out of his lw.

At this point Yoshimo, I would suspect you just for your unwillingness to help PR's.

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 05:24 AM
Even now your suggestion is that that could at some point in the future change.

Your plan is to vote a Jester who can randomly kill whoever the fuck he wants of us. There is 0 reason for him to comply with any suggestions you give him. Hell, there are way to many lols to be had from just murdering the most pro-town of the voters.

I am not risking my life to give a neutral (who has played against our interests the whole game) a win.

You PRs are not worth more than the rest of us anymore. If you want to vote the jester, do it yourselves.

May I ask how I worked against your interests, assuming you're not cult and that's not a scumslip?

I'm quite surprised you're this distrustful, but whatever. If you're really worried, just ask for Kivan to heartward you with someone and cleric away, right? I would think confirming roles would be a very pro-town thing to do, but I could be wrong.

Especially since the last thing the final cultist wants is to get killed by a Lunatic, they still stand a chance theoretically (but srsly lolz)

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 05:25 AM
Whoops nm mixed up the two Y names.

idk why an Explorer would be so adamant about not dying at this point, even for a good reason. Not that I would randomly kill people for no reason, I'm perfectly fine not killing at all, but my kills are useful

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 05:25 AM
Two thoughts on the list of conditions Kivan posted:

1. Cernd wasn't converted night 6, as the contract was taken. Cernd is confirmed Ritualist - if that's wrong, then I'm lying too, so that's an added condition.

2. I don't think Safana is capable of lying under pressure, between my experience with her in heartwarder nightchat and her performance once she realized the lynchtrain was headed in her direction. I sincerely doubt she would fake Jan's role considering Cernd is around (though he can feel free to pop in anytime now ^^)

I'd be quite shocked if Harpers played no role at all in this game due to Alora being modkilled. At the least she would deserve a replacement you'd think considering the number of Explorer replacements, though I could be wrong.

This the "Harpers" are not lying in my opinion

1: That would make it 4 cultists, not 3. I tend to agree with your logic.

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 05:26 AM
How are you equal to a PR at this point as an explorer? PR is the only thing leading to 100% claimed town roles at this point.

Plus, Khalid COULD tell us his feedback and maybe give us a liar in our midsts. Worst case, we lose 2 people. I would rather have the information he has then risk him dying at night with something important left out of his lw.

At this point Yoshimo, I would suspect you just for your unwillingness to help PR's.

Also, if I'm lynched Cernd could check me that night and provide all the clues etc. for added confirmation, town would still get the info in time for the next day

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 05:27 AM
Thinking of lynching the retards Yoshimo and Garrick. Though only maximum 1 cult left possible...

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 05:29 AM
Thinking of lynching the retards Yoshimo and Garrick. Though only maximum 1 cult left possible...

Many innocents will die before the cult, I am sure.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 05:31 AM
Many innocents will die before the cult, I am sure.
Dead weights you mean. Too many Druid around...

FM Yoshimo
September 22nd, 2013, 05:31 AM
How are you equal to a PR at this point as an explorer? PR is the only thing leading to 100% claimed town roles at this point.

Plus, Khalid COULD tell us his feedback and maybe give us a liar in our midsts. Worst case, we lose 2 people. I would rather have the information he has then risk him dying at night with something important left out of his lw.

At this point Yoshimo, I would suspect you just for your unwillingness to help PR's.

Or you know, we could play the game and not send the confirmed non-scum to lynch the jester?

Fucking retarded.

And you suspect me of what exactly?

How am I equal to a PR? I don't have 5 fucking town deaths on my conscience for one, unlike some of these fools.

Lynching Khalid remains the single most retarded thing I have ever heard of. It:
1. Gives somebody who doesn't deserve it a win.
2. Risks two town lives.
3. Gambles our win for a quicker win.

You guys talk about Khalid giving us clues and killing who you want him to. If I was Khalid I wouldn't give you shit, and I would make damn sure that Yoshimo and Kivan were number 1 targets, to give whatever poor Cultist remained in this game a chance.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 05:33 AM
Or we can like, lynch all the uncooperative explorers, then cult and finally Khalid.

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 05:33 AM
@Yoshimo Unless...of course....Khalid doesn't get lynched today. Then I could possess you again tomorrow and vote him in your absense? :)

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 05:34 AM
@Yoshimo
Apparently you don't understand the word "bussing".

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 05:35 AM
Khalid, you mind if we lynch Yoshimo/Garrick today instead?

FM Yoshimo
September 22nd, 2013, 05:37 AM
@Yoshimo
Apparently you don't understand the word "bussing".

Umm, if you are trying to use the word bussing to indicate I could be Cult, then it is you who doesn't understand the term.

Bussing: is selling out a teammate during the Day.

I am cleared because Cult role-blocking each other doesn't make any sense in any universe ever.

Do you have 3 copies of Chromosome 21?

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 05:47 AM
Umm, if you are trying to use the word bussing to indicate I could be Cult, then it is you who doesn't understand the term.

Bussing: is selling out a teammate during the Day.

I am cleared because Cult role-blocking each other doesn't make any sense in any universe ever.

Do you have 3 copies of Chromosome 21?

And now you are walking into the deep, dark territory that is ad hominem attacks mixed with words that may be incredibly offensive to some of us

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 05:47 AM
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Necromancer) - Montaron
Hidden Neutral (Bounty Hunter) - Nalia
Hidden Neutral (Thief/Lunatic) - Khalid
Hidden Neutral (Druid) - Tiax
Hidden Neutral (Antagonist)- Coran
Hidden Harper (Harper Agent) - Xzar
Explorer (Harper Alchemist) - Kagain
Duke - Korgan
Hidden Adventurer (Ritualist) - Cernd
Hidden Adventurer (Heartwarder) - Kivan
Hidden Adventurer (Cleric) - Yeslick
Explorer - Haer-Dalis
Explorer - Ajantis

Hidden Adventurer (Explorer) - Garrick
Hidden Adventurer (Explorer) - Yoshimo
Hidden Adventurer (Explorer) - Faldorn


We should have the numbers to deal with them... the real Cult of Bhaal... perhaps we can lynch one today and then lynch Khalid + Heartward another tomorrow...

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 05:48 AM
Sorry Khalid...

FM Yoshimo
Die deadweight!

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 05:48 AM
Khalid, you mind if we lynch Yoshimo/Garrick today instead?

Nope, I'd prefer to get to dead-chat sooner than later since our numbers are beginning to spread thin, but by all means fine by me. At least nights are 24 hrs (hopefully not just last night).

Feel free to vote me Yoshimo, than maybe I'll unvote you FM Yoshimo

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 05:49 AM
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Necromancer) - Montaron
Hidden Neutral (Bounty Hunter) - Nalia
Hidden Neutral (Thief/Lunatic) - Khalid
Hidden Neutral (Druid) - Tiax
Hidden Neutral (Antagonist)- Coran
Hidden Harper (Harper Agent) - Xzar
Explorer (Harper Alchemist) - Kagain
Duke - Korgan
Hidden Adventurer (Ritualist) - Cernd
Hidden Adventurer (Heartwarder) - Kivan
Hidden Adventurer (Cleric) - Yeslick
Explorer - Haer-Dalis
Explorer - Ajantis

Hidden Adventurer (Explorer) - Garrick
Hidden Adventurer (Explorer) - Yoshimo
Hidden Adventurer (Explorer) - Faldorn


We should have the numbers to deal with them... the real Cult of Bhaal... perhaps we can lynch one today and then lynch Khalid + Heartward another tomorrow...

Lynch Yoshimo today, Faldorn can be ignited tonight (if Montaron wills it, also idk who else he doused), if Garrick is still suspect and Branwen controls him to vote me then that's the 3 of them in a row

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 05:51 AM
FM Yoshimo

FM Yoshimo
September 22nd, 2013, 05:56 AM
And now you are walking into the deep, dark territory that is ad hominem attacks mixed with words that may be incredibly offensive to some of us

Mental retardation is an established cornerstone of the diagnosis. There is nothing to be offended about.

Yes vote me, retards. Like it matters to me. You know my role, yet disregard the evidence to derp once again.

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 05:57 AM
Mental retardation is an established cornerstone of the diagnosis. There is nothing to be offended about.

Yes vote me, retards. Like it matters to me. You know my role, yet disregard the evidence to derp once again.

I possessed you so I didn't have to hear this bullshit. I'll lynch you if it means not having to listen to it for the remainder.

FM Yoshimo
September 22nd, 2013, 05:59 AM
Or perhaps you are insinuating that it is insulting to people with Trisomy 21 to suggest they would ever act like you guys, in which case I agree.

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 06:01 AM
Or perhaps you are insinuating that it is insulting to people with Trisomy 21 to suggest they would ever act like you guys, in which case I agree.

Trisomy 21 is a great choice to use to insult people. Said no one. Ever.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 06:02 AM
Number of cults left

Starting recruits
1) Valygar
2) Shar-Teel
3) Sarevok
4) Mazzy
5) ??? / Jan

N1 Keldorn
N2 ???
N3 Minsc
N4 Dynaheir
N5 ??? / (Failed)
N6 (Bounty kill)

Prophet never recruited double.

If Safana and Xzar are not lying: 1 cult left
If Safana lied: 2 cults left
If both lied: 3 cults left

FM Yoshimo
September 22nd, 2013, 06:04 AM
Trisomy 21 is a great choice to use to insult people. Said no one. Ever.

The Internet mourns at the injustice!

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 06:05 AM
So what genetic disease causes selfishness, uncooperativity and self-centeredness?

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 06:05 AM
Number of cults left

Starting recruits
1) Valygar
2) Shar-Teel
3) Sarevok
4) Mazzy
5) ??? / Jan

N1 Keldorn
N2 ???
N3 Minsc
N4 Dynaheir
N5 ??? / (Failed)
N6 (Bounty kill)

Prophet never recruited double.

If Safana and Xzar are not lying: 1 cult left
If Safana lied: 2 cults left
If both lied: 3 cults left

Shar-teel's actions changed D3, the attitude shift noted to me she was converted, not a starting cult. She may have been a warden.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 06:07 AM
Cernd confirmed that Shar-Teel is starting cult. He should give us more results later...

FM Faldorn
September 22nd, 2013, 06:10 AM
Cernd confirmed that Shar-Teel is starting cult. He should give us more results later...

Ah, it doesn't make too much difference to me at this point.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 06:12 AM
Ah, it doesn't make too much difference to me at this point.

Yup. One cult or two cult. Easy enough.

FM Yoshimo
September 22nd, 2013, 06:17 AM
So what genetic disease causes selfishness, uncooperativity and self-centeredness?

I don't know how many times I have to say this, but just forget your emotions and look for a second at what you are suggesting:

Your plan is to get the hidden Cult/(ists) to vote on a jester and get themselves killed. If the Cult wanted to suicide there are easier ways. It's never going to happen. If you ask Khalid to kill them, they will never vote on his train because it would be gamethrowing. The only way the lynch goes forward is if the two named to die are sheep Explorers. That scenario ends with 2 dead Explorers.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 06:24 AM
I don't know why Yoshimo is so angry at us for wanting to lynch Khalid.

Part about him being useless and harmful is not true - probably thx to his gambit Valygar took contract and started whole chain of events leading to his death. Now we have Avenger on our side who will tell us when Cult is gone. What amazes me is that in this game everybody focuses on looking for scumminess so much that they neglect to see anything else. Khalid seems like really sincere guy, I actually trust him. If people have no reason to act like a jerks, they usually do not.

And of course we can see who followed the plan, have access to Khalid's lw and other useful stuff.

FM Yoshimo
September 22nd, 2013, 06:26 AM
I don't know why Yoshimo is so angry at us for wanting to lynch Khalid.

Part about him being useless and harmful is not true - probably thx to his gambit Valygar took contract and started whole chain of events leading to his death. Now we have Avenger on our side who will tell us when Cult is gone. What amazes me is that in this game everybody focuses on looking for scumminess so much that they neglect to see anything else. Khalid seems like really sincere guy, I actually trust him. If people have no reason to act like a jerks, they usually do not.

And of course we can see who followed the plan, have access to Khalid's lw and other useful stuff.

Khalid already lied to us in this exact situation when we trusted him to open the Inner Sanctum.

There is no reason to trust he will leave anything in his will.

FM Yoshimo
September 22nd, 2013, 06:28 AM
Re: who follows the plan, half the people you want to vote Khalid are almost perma afk.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 06:33 AM
Khalid already lied to us in this exact situation when we trusted him to open the Inner Sanctum.

There is no reason to trust he will leave anything in his will.

If people have no reason to act like a jerks, they usually do not. Khalid was doused this night, can't blame him for trying to stay alive.

Yoshimo, you are right: the plan is that we want to lynch Khalid and Cultists won't vote him for obvious reasons. Which is what you are doing right now.

Even if Khalid betrays us he still have a chance of killing the Cultist. Being very Townie was Cult trademark for quite some time. Even in the worst possible scenario of 2 dead Explorers we narrow the Cult suspects greatly.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 06:38 AM
For the record: I believe Yoshimo is a bad lynch for today.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 06:39 AM
For the record: I believe Yoshimo is a bad lynch for today.

So you mean Garrick? I not too sure about Garrick. I think he is sulking because I insulted him too much. Then again he didn't vote Valygar...

FM Yeslick
September 22nd, 2013, 06:42 AM
I too think Yoshimo is a bad lynch today. What about Haer-Dalis?

FM Yoshimo
September 22nd, 2013, 06:45 AM
If people have no reason to act like a jerks, they usually do not. Khalid was doused this night, can't blame him for trying to stay alive.

Yoshimo, you are right: the plan is that we want to lynch Khalid and Cultists won't vote him for obvious reasons. Which is what you are doing right now.

Even if Khalid betrays us he still have a chance of killing the Cultist. Being very Townie was Cult trademark for quite some time. Even in the worst possible scenario of 2 dead Explorers we narrow the Cult suspects greatly.

I can think of several great reasons for Khalid to betray us. Consider the number of townies miss-lynched and yet we are still winning? Khalid owes us nothing. His job is to fool you into lynching him, which he seems to have succeeded in. The Cult deserve a break, and if I was the Lunatic I would give them one and murder 2 townies.

But you still think this is a good idea, Kivan, so okay. Let me propose a different plan:

Why don't you just ask all the claimed Explorers to -suicide and then lynch whoever is left standing tomorrow.

OH WAIT DAMN THAT'S THE CURRENT PLAN

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 06:47 AM
Not too sure.

Garrick and Yoshimo are the least cooperative ones and they value their own lives too much. Faldorn too.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 06:49 AM
Why don't you just ask all the claimed Explorers to -suicide and then lynch whoever is left standing tomorrow.

OH WAIT DAMN THAT'S THE CURRENT PLAN

And who is "confirmed" Explorer according to you? Someone who is 100% not Cult and his death will make us very sad? Because I don't see anybody.

And we will lynch one Explorer today anyway.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 06:51 AM
Anyway I think that Cult is just pissed that Bershaba instead of Tymora visited them, and is trying to drag the game longer.

@Yoshimo
And how does Khalid know who among the "Explorers" are town or cult? Everyone has an equal chance to die.

You yourself are not useful at all. You only bitch and complain but I didn't see much constructive input from you.

FM Yoshimo
September 22nd, 2013, 06:51 AM
And who is "confirmed" Explorer according to you? Someone who is 100% not Cult and his death will make us very sad? Because I don't see anybody.

And we will lynch one Explorer today anyway.

I am.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 06:53 AM
I am.

Yeah, and if we won't lynch Khalid you have great chance of being lynched yourself. So does it matter?

FM Yoshimo
September 22nd, 2013, 06:56 AM
Yeah, and if we won't lynch Khalid you have great chance of being lynched yourself. So does it matter?

If the IQ doesn't pick up in next 5 posts I'm leaving today for good, I'm sick of this shit.

Why the fuck would I get lynched by a Town trying to win?

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 06:56 AM
Yoshimo really pissed me off with his choice of insults, and as of now it seems the worst thing I could do to him is vote him.

But I'm fine with voting whomever is deemed deserving of a lynch-check today.

Haer-Dalis has yet to show his face today, unless I skimmed over a post or two.

Possibilities: Tiax, Coran, Yeslick, Haer-Dalis, Ajantis, Garrick, Yoshimo, Faldorn.

I'm fairly certain Tiax is Druid, Ajantis is Explorer.

I'd be shocked if Coran isn't Antagonist, and I can easily use a lynch-kill on him if its deemed necessary. There'd be no reason to be fearful of this on his end if he spoke the truth. -> The above is true for Tiax also, since he has a saved vest and stated he'll save it for such an occasion.

This leaves: Yeslick, Haer-Dalis, Garrick, Yoshimo, Faldorn.

If Montaron wants to ignite Faldorn tonight, we can eliminate him from our suspicions for now.

Assuming Montaron has not doused another of the following non-confirmed people:

Yeslick, Haer-Dalis, Garrick, Yoshimo.

If Cernd confirms Yeslick, that leaves:

Haer-Dalis, Garrick, Yoshimo

Ideally all 3 of them would vote me, and then I would target either those I am asked to target (by Kivan etc.), or my own selection of those 3. But most likely, the cultist will not vote me, which would result in 2 Explorer deaths. Unless I just hit the 2 neutrals if all 3 don't vote me.

Otherwise, we can lynch whichever of the 4. Haer-Dalis would be a good lynch if he lurks today. Garrick will probably show up later so he can stay in the running for lynch targets. And then Yoshimo is Yoshimo.

But I believe there is only 1 cultist left (lolz confirmable by Branwen's presence), and thus those are my FoSed three.

FM Haer-Dalis
September 22nd, 2013, 06:57 AM
I am here and I caught up. About the debate between Yoshimo and Garrick. Let Khalid kill them when we lynch him. If they don't vote him then heartward one of them with Faldorn who Mont can just burn tonight. 2 Deaths of Explorer claims just narrows it down. Also I believe the alchemist fire was what was thrown at Coran because it doesn't seem like a cult thing to go and kill a neutral claim and I can see town not entirely beleiving an antagonist on a prophet. FM Khalid

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 06:57 AM
Keep calm and propose someone to lynch. You post so much and yet you didn't even propose an alternative.

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 06:59 AM
Heartwarding with Faldorn won't work, since he's doused - I don't think the ignition will carry through, since dousings carry through.

If it's between Yoshimo and Garrick, just heartward one of them with Tiax (the one that doesn't vote me, or whichever if neither does and Tiax votes me), then Alchemist's fire makes sense on Coran, and boom just about everything's solved with tonight.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 07:00 AM
Oh the towering and upstanding Explorer Haer-Dalis is here. At last a sane Explorer!

FM Haer-Dalis
September 22nd, 2013, 07:01 AM
Heartwarding with Faldorn won't work, since he's doused - I don't think the ignition will carry through, since dousings carry through.

If it's between Yoshimo and Garrick, just heartward one of them with Tiax (the one that doesn't vote me, or whichever if neither does and Tiax votes me), then Alchemist's fire makes sense on Coran, and boom just about everything's solved with tonight.
Well if Faldorn gets burned then the person paired with him will die too.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 07:03 AM
On Harpers, they made a mistake supporting the lynch of Safana, since Safana alone cannot harm them. They still have a final chance to win against Montaron and I won't tell them how nor do the work for them.

On Montaron... depends on whether he wants to win or not...

FM Yeslick
September 22nd, 2013, 07:05 AM
FM Haer-Dalis

FM Yoshimo
September 22nd, 2013, 07:07 AM
I did my part all game, which was provide logical arguments for courses of action in every situation, which I would like to believe stopped this town from lynching half of its own members. If you want to say I did nothing then whatever.

From the above 2 posts by HD and Khalid it's clear these guys don't give a shit about this game as I am still listed on the possible/likely Cult lists. This is what pisses me off the most, and Yeslick and Kivan did the same thing. So many of you people are putting 0 effort into this game so why should I anymore?

I've been playing FM on this site since FM IV and this is the first time I've ever felt like this.

You successfully broke me with your complete lack of giving a fuck.

I'm out.

See you on Day 11, or maybe Day 12.

FM Haer-Dalis
September 22nd, 2013, 07:07 AM
Explorer Claims:
Yoshimo
Faldorn
Garrick
Haer-Dalis
Ajantis

Kill 2 Explorers from Khalid's Lunatic Suicide.
Then Faldorn is already doused so he can get burned. Heartward another one with Faldorn and then 4 Explorer claims left leaving 1. That is if you want to kill off about all explorer claims. I am fairly sure Ajantis is an explorer so it would put me to death which I am fine with if we can get the cult in the middle of this.

FM Yeslick
September 22nd, 2013, 07:08 AM
I did my part all game, which was provide logical arguments for courses of action in every situation, which I would like to believe stopped this town from lynching half of its own members. If you want to say I did nothing then whatever.

From the above 2 posts by HD and Khalid it's clear these guys don't give a shit about this game as I am still listed on the possible/likely Cult lists. This is what pisses me off the most, and Yeslick and Kivan did the same thing. So many of you people are putting 0 effort into this game so why should I anymore?

I've been playing FM on this site since FM IV and this is the first time I've ever felt like this.

You successfully broke me with your complete lack of giving a fuck.

I'm out.

See you on Day 11, or maybe Day 12.

I don't think you're a Cult. I healed you 2 nights ago (I think). yoshimo pls.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 07:13 AM
I've been playing FM on this site since FM IV
With so much experience under you belt, you should well know that your so called "confirmed Explorer" is not foolproof at all. Else your skills stagnated since FM IV...

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 07:25 AM
Yoshimo is giving us baseless excuses. I've corrected myself a second after I posted and Yoshimo is heartbroken that I don't think of him as 100% Townie. Perhaps you played FMs too long and you can't stand the pressure anymore.

Haer-Dalis, I can't kill anyone by targeting Faldorn. Only cursed people can be burnt. I can only help Arsonist to curse twice.

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 07:28 AM
I did my part all game, which was provide logical arguments for courses of action in every situation, which I would like to believe stopped this town from lynching half of its own members. If you want to say I did nothing then whatever.

From the above 2 posts by HD and Khalid it's clear these guys don't give a shit about this game as I am still listed on the possible/likely Cult lists. This is what pisses me off the most, and Yeslick and Kivan did the same thing. So many of you people are putting 0 effort into this game so why should I anymore?

I've been playing FM on this site since FM IV and this is the first time I've ever felt like this.

You successfully broke me with your complete lack of giving a fuck.

I'm out.

See you on Day 11, or maybe Day 12.

Where the Hell did you pick up such a sense of entitlement? If you are truly an Explorer, you would understand why you are under suspicion.

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 07:32 AM
Explorer Claims:
Yoshimo
Faldorn
Garrick
Haer-Dalis
Ajantis

Kill 2 Explorers from Khalid's Lunatic Suicide.
Then Faldorn is already doused so he can get burned. Heartward another one with Faldorn and then 4 Explorer claims left leaving 1. That is if you want to kill off about all explorer claims. I am fairly sure Ajantis is an explorer so it would put me to death which I am fine with if we can get the cult in the middle of this.

Either 2 Explorers or 1 and Tiax or Tiax and Coran. Then heartwarding allows the kill to also hit an Explorer that refused to vote.

I would argue the ideal route would be to hit at least one Explorer claim through heartwarding, since it's likely the cultist will not want to vote me. And then hit at least one Explorer claim that votes me, since the Cultist may try to vote me to escape suspicion.

However, to do so would require Kivan to reveal who he heartwards tonight. The way around this would be to give him hammer on me, but I doubt things would turn out all peachy like that.

Thus if the route we take is lynching me today, I can target Tiax and one Explorer from the suspicious list that votes me. Kivan then heartwards Tiax with one of the Explorers that voted me.

Tomorrow will return with 2 deaths, a confirmed Druid in Tiax, and either a dead cultist or 2 Explorer confirmations taken from the suspicious list.

Or we can lynch someone on the list and go from there, I don't mind too much tbh

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 07:34 AM
Depending on what happens today, it may be most useful for Branwen to possess Yoshimo since she has claimed she will be gone for 1-2 days (as long as she can disappear without being modkilled). If I'm alive tomorrow Branwen can effectively force an Explorer claim to vote me.

FM Khalid
September 22nd, 2013, 07:34 AM
Whoops, those were two separate statements, but whatevs

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 07:50 AM
Xzar, Kagain, who received the Fire? Xzar, please tell me who will you check tonight so I can prepare double action for you.

Nobody claimed shooting Coran.

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 07:56 AM
Khalid, Kivan... Tiax and Coran are uncced Neutrals. If they are culted, they still retain their vests and immunity, so no reason to attack them at all. It's either investigate or lynch for both of them.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:05 AM
Yeah, but Coran never behaved like Antagonist and Student/Amnesiac are still possibilities. If attack on Coran will be confirmed, then I'd like to Lunatic-check Tiax just to be sure.

FM Korgan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:11 AM
FM Haer-Dalis

ok lets get it rolling.
I was in the Heartwarden chat N1 and Valygar was very, very communicative about his riddle chat. He called FM Haer-Dalis the most town pro player in his night chat. Since that guy loved to recruit leader personalities and strong contributors i suspect him to either
a) Cover for his fellow cult
-OR-
b) spoke the truth and just culted him.

Now the thing is. We have no cult kills anymore. There is a slight chance that the last cult member is another graverobber who picked an assassin to get another kill. So the attack on FM Coran could be an Assassin charge. Who did Nalia contract last night? Anyone? Then there is the chance that somebody with Alchemist fire shot FM Coran.

There is another theory that the last cultist is a shadow thief. Either FM Cernd or someone who got his role "upgraded" by the Quartermaster.

Can a shadow thief switch the lunatic kill on somebody else?

Well we all know that cult has almost no chance to win anymore so he might try to get to kill at least someone. It's still better than suiciding.

@FM Montaron: Who did you douse last night?

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:14 AM
Korgan, it's so awesome that Prophet said that Haer-Dalis is his Town choice. And very convenient after you tried to kill Haer-Dalis for last 4-5 days.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:16 AM
Btw, Korgan, why don't you reveal and put Haer-Dalis on L-5? I'll join the train if you reveal:P

I still would like to lynch Khalid but tomorrow with Korgan we can do this with only 5 people.

FM Korgan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:18 AM
That incognito achievement. I need it for my bank. I want everyone to vote. For vote analysis.

FM Montaron
September 22nd, 2013, 08:19 AM
Sorry, I'm here. I had an insane day yesterday and I just slept over 18 hours....

Anyway.



Montaron can win as long as he survives. A dangerous being, who knows if he is culted or not at this point? If we continue to be suspicious of everyone, no one can blame him for dousing and killing townies later on.


Come on Branwen, use your head. Prophet would've been instantly killed when the Sanctum opened if I was.

I shot Coran last night.

For some reason, Nalia decided to give me the contract. I debated heavily if I should curse, wail Faldorn or just gun someone down, and I ended up deciding to shoot Coran to see if he'd survive it.
Very surprised Branwen decided to pick the person that was most likely dying last night to ghost....

FM Montaron
September 22nd, 2013, 08:19 AM
(No, I have not cursed a Harper. I told you I'd say true to my word until the very end, shitheads.)

FM Korgan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:19 AM
Also i think i got doused and i would like Yeslick to heal me and no one else to confirm his cleric claim. I get unhealable if i reveal. U rememb0r?

FM Korgan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:21 AM
(No, I have not cursed a Harper. I told you I'd say true to my word until the very end, shitheads.)

Uh okay. Don't you want to win this?

Still waiting on Cernd.

FM Korgan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:22 AM
This game is way too circle jerky for my taste. xD

FM Korgan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:23 AM
Korgan, it's so awesome that Prophet said that Haer-Dalis is his Town choice. And very convenient after you tried to kill Haer-Dalis for last 4-5 days.

Why so much sarcasm? lol. I think your night actions were really amazing. Duke and Cult leader N1 in one night chat. God damn it. So badass :D

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:23 AM
Really, that Korgan...

Ok.

FM Haer-Dalis

And Coran is officially confirmed, cool. I trust Tiax's claim so we can lynch Khalid some other time.

FM Cernd
September 22nd, 2013, 08:23 AM
o.o
I thought this started in seven hours.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:24 AM
Why so much sarcasm? lol. I think your night actions were really amazing. Duke and Cult leader N1 in one night chat. God damn it. So badass :D

Two leaders setting up the game, huh? VALYGAR SOLD YOU CULT!

FM Cernd
September 22nd, 2013, 08:25 AM
Well, we won.
I'd suggest that Kivan puts both harpers in his chat and then whoever gets Nalia's contract kills them, to give Montaron his well deserved win.

My last will:


* n1: Attempted to solve the main puzzle. lel
* n2: Skie - Nada. I was bussed.
* n3: Viconia - Nothing.
* n4: Mazzy - Robbed. Tracked.
* n5: Missed the deadline.
* n6: Shar-Teel - Trapped. Interviewed. Protected.
* n7: I was manipulated.
* N8: Alora - United. Healed.

* Most aren't updated.
FM Aerie - Full of bullshit. Not a Cultist up to n4.
FM Ajantis - Playing Avenger/Lunatic while actively scumhunting. I don't trust his claim.
FM Alora - Dumb and useless. Kill.
FM Anomen - Bad move fakeclaiming. Made himself the perfect target for ML. A Cult-sided Townie.
FM Branwen - Not a starting cultist, not a cultist up to the third night, and likely not cultist at this point.
FM Cernd - The Puppet Master. Fear him, petty cultists, for death will not stop him.
FM Coran - Cult or Cult-sided Neutral. No scum hunting. Kill.
FM Dynaheir - Don't like. Keep an eye on her.
FM Edwin - LVP.
FM Eldoth - Who? Useless.
FM Faldorn - Druid my ass. Obvscum. Kill.
FM Garrick - Annoying and spammy. Town or Neutral.
FM Haer-Dalis - Useless. Kill.
FM Imoen - This is how a Townie looks like.
FM Jaheira - Purple Neutral or Town. Fuck my corpse if she's a cultist.
FM Jan - Don't trust her. Kill.
FM Kagain - Meh. Kill.
FM Keldorn - Not a neutral. Watch closely. Flawless townies tend to be scum.
FM Khalid - Neutral play. No scum hunting, focused on puzzles. Likely Neutral.
FM Kivan - See Keldorn.
FM Korgan - Not a starting cultist. Candidate for late cult conversion. Watch closely.
FM Mazzy - Obvscum is obvious.
FM Minsc - See Sarevok.
FM Montaron - Has my (symbolic now that I'm dead) vote in the Bhaalspawns war.
FM Nalia - Cult or anti-town Neutral. Kill.
FM Quayle - He bussed me with Anomen. I think he was trying to get me killed.
FM Safana - Safari.
FM Sarevok - He and Minsc were bald, dark-skinned guys. I think I know what turns the Prophet on.
FM Shar-Teel - Not a Student. Not a Neutral. Town or Cult PR.
FM Skie - Thanks for the list of links.
FM Tiax - Scummy McScum. Not Town. Not a Bhaalspawn. Useless. Kill.
FM Valygar - Always seems to have an excuse to mislynch. Kill.
FM Viconia - Incoming mislynch in 3, 2, 1...
FM Xan - Cult or Neutral. Be careful with this one.
FM Xzar - That behaviour switch. Likely a Neutral.
FM Yeslick - Watch closely. I don't trust his claim. Ban him from voting.
FM Yoshimo - I don't trust her, but I have no reasons to believe her to be a Cultist.

* Montaron did way more for the Town than the Harpers. Vote accordingly.
* As long as the purple neutrals don't side with the cult, you should give them their wins.
* Massclaim as soon as the sanctum opens up.
* When in doubt, shoot to kill.
* Don't google images for "Ritualist".

Mislynching is for plebs.
- Cernd. ♥

FM Korgan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:25 AM
and Valygar got blinded by my wifom. So damn gud! I really had a laugh flash when i saw what Valygar flipped. To be fair he totaly convinced me of his explorer claim. He even suggested that if i would stay in the Heartwarden chat and meet a harper that they should recruit him. Nice play. You got me! :D

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:26 AM
o.o
I thought this started in seven hours.

Yeah, me too. Trololol. Or rather Bhaalal.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:27 AM
Cernd, you never checked Safana??? WTF man?

FM Cernd
September 22nd, 2013, 08:29 AM
Cernd, you never checked Safana??? WTF man?
I wanted Mazzy's clue to solve the main puzzle, but it turned out to be useless.
Then I missed the deadline, then got manipulated, and last night I checked Alora to confirm Yeslick.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:30 AM
N8: Alora - United. Healed.

So we had a 2nd Cleric after all?

FM Yeslick
September 22nd, 2013, 08:30 AM
* N8: Alora - United. Healed.

Edwin died before he could use a night action, so this clearly wasn't him. I healed this nigga.

FM Cernd
September 22nd, 2013, 08:32 AM
So we had a 2nd Cleric after all?
Yup.

FM Kivan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:32 AM
Cool, all PRs and almost all neutrals are confirmed. This looks good.

FM Korgan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:34 AM
So we had a 2nd Cleric after all?

Depends if Cernd and Yeslick are not culted. I would prefer Xzar checking one of those 2.

FM Kagain
September 22nd, 2013, 08:35 AM
give me about 15 mins to catch up im on page 3 with 50 post count half way though

FM Cernd
September 22nd, 2013, 08:37 AM
Depends if Cernd and Yeslick are not culted. I would prefer Xzar checking one of those 2.
Or have Montaron to burn me and Yeslick to heal me.

FM Cernd
September 22nd, 2013, 08:38 AM
Or mislynch me. I want to take a look at the dead chat.

FM Korgan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:39 AM
Or have Montaron to burn me and Yeslick to heal me.

Should work too i guess.

Then who is left? Haer and Yoshimo. Haer today if he flips town the alchemist fire probably gonna hit a town because the last cult is a shadow thief to 95%.

FM Korgan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:40 AM
If the lunatic kill is switchable we can be sure that Haer IS the SHADOW THIEF.

FM Haer-Dalis
September 22nd, 2013, 08:41 AM
Eh I would be upset that I am going to get mislynched, but considering there is 1 cult left go ahead and lynch me. Town is going to win anyways.

FM Yeslick
September 22nd, 2013, 08:41 AM
Or have Montaron to burn me and Yeslick to heal me.

Can't heal douses

FM Yeslick
September 22nd, 2013, 08:41 AM
Can only remove the douse

FM Yeslick
September 22nd, 2013, 08:42 AM
Eh I would be upset that I am going to get mislynched, but considering there is 1 cult left go ahead and lynch me. Town is going to win anyways.

r u valygar

I swear this is exactly how valygar was talking

FM Haer-Dalis
September 22nd, 2013, 08:42 AM
If the lunatic kill is switchable we can be sure that Haer IS the SHADOW THIEF.

No I really am an Explorer. The whole reason I made the early claim as an explorer was to get recruited to the harpers. Sadly they didn't recruit me :(

FM Montaron
September 22nd, 2013, 08:43 AM
Uh okay. Don't you want to win this?


Yes, I do. But at this point, It's up to the Town to decide and I'm not backing up on my word.

And please, Korgankun. We've had our quarrels in the past, but I wouldn't curse you just because of it.

Nalia, why exactly did you give the contract to me? Did you hope I'd shoot a Harper or something? :P

FM Cernd
September 22nd, 2013, 08:45 AM
Can only remove the douse
Ah, nevermind then.

I guess Xzar can double-confirm me, then.

That said, I think I'm pretty much confirmed.

- Posted Mazzy's clues and last will. Khalid confirmed the clues.
- Confirmed the last Bhaalspawn was an Evoker before Xan died.
- Noone counterclaimed being manipulated.
- Never mislynched. Tunneled scum pretty hard.

So either I'm a Ritualist or I'm a gamethrower and both yeslick and Khalid are cultists with me. >__>

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 08:45 AM
Town->Cult->Bhaalspawn->... next up Neutral or Harpers...

FM Ajantis
September 22nd, 2013, 08:47 AM
Ah, nevermind then.

I guess Xzar can double-confirm me, then.

That said, I think I'm pretty much confirmed.

- Posted Mazzy's clues and last will. Khalid confirmed the clues.
- Confirmed the last Bhaalspawn was an Evoker before Xan died.
- Noone counterclaimed being manipulated.
- Never mislynched. Tunneled scum pretty hard.

So either I'm a Ritualist or I'm a gamethrower and both yeslick and Khalid are cultists with me. >__>

Who do you want to be lynched today? Garrick and Yoshimo refused to vote Khalid...

FM Korgan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:47 AM
@Haer its between you and Yoshimo right now. So what do you suggest?

FM Korgan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:48 AM
Yeah or that Garrick guy. With his silly lists of bs. öÖ

idk. i am running low on motivation to backtrack anything.

FM Korgan
September 22nd, 2013, 08:49 AM
Yes, I do. But at this point, It's up to the Town to decide and I'm not backing up on my word.

And please, Korgankun. We've had our quarrels in the past, but I wouldn't curse you just because of it.

Nalia, why exactly did you give the contract to me? Did you hope I'd shoot a Harper or something? :P

Heartwarden chat Montaronkun. It can be a bitch remember? ;)

FM Cernd
September 22nd, 2013, 08:49 AM
Who do you want to be lynched today? Garrick and Yoshimo refused to vote Khalid...

Garrick is more annoying than Yoshimo. I wouldn't mind watching him die.

My suggestion is to let all night killing roles have a dayfield with non-confirmed roles, then (when the remaining Culstists die) we lynch Khalid, then Kivan puts both Harpers in his chat and we use Nalia's contract to kill them.

GG for Town, Purple Neutrals and Montaron.

FM Kagain
September 22nd, 2013, 08:50 AM
personally i rather rid cult once and for all before we have jester lolz

FM Yoshimo

FM Cernd
September 22nd, 2013, 08:51 AM
Or we kill the Harpers tonight just to be sure that Montaron lives.