Day 8: Zero point game

[Forum Mafia GM]

Day 8 has begun.

FM Aerie, FM Dynaheir, and FM Xan were killed last night.

By the body of FM Aerie there was a note.


Bhaal awaits thee, Bhaal embraces thee, none escape Bhaal...
Bhaal awaits thee, Bhaal embraces thee, none escape Bhaal...
Bhaal awaits thee, Bhaal embraces thee, none escape Bhaal...

We are the faithful of Bhaal: we are few, but we are strong. We will not stand idly as the Adventurers parade themselves around, thinking they have won and thinking that it was of their own merit. We are willing to temporarily set aside our quarrels with the Harpers, whom the Adventurers have also alienated: we will allow them to deal with the Bhaalspawn if they allow us to go about our business. We are also willing to forgive the transgressions of Montaron against the Cult: he may atone for the blood of Minsc and Sarevok and regain our good graces by repurposing his talents against the Adventurers, his true enemy. We extend a welcome to Xan, who we hope will be a more powerful and less cowardly Bhaalspawn than the pitiful Jan whose final hours were spent begging to the Adventurers who she so foolishly sided with for her life. Finally, we ask Khalid to use his kills for his own enjoyment, not for the advancement of the undeserving Adventurers. We hope that Khalid will come to understand that he was destined to use his kills to restore balance in the game, not to appease the Adventurers.

Make no mistake Adventurers: your successes were not by your own merit, but by the gracious work of the Bhaalspawn. If they chose to do so, they could turn on you in an instant and remove you from this world faster than you can say "Grobnar". You would do well to show them some respect.

and a last will

Im currently in a heartwarden chat with xan, so kivan is a confirmed townie at least.

Night 1. Watched Imoen: No visitors.
Night 2. Tracker Mazzy: Visited no one
Night 3. Tracked Montaron: Visited himself
Night 4 Tracker Montaron: Visited no one
Night 5 tracked Montaron: Visited Jan
Night 6 Watched Kivan: No visitors
Night 7 Watching Xzar


By the body of FM Dynaheir there was a note.

-death note
He chose... poorly...
xoxo Xan

By the body of FM Xan there was a note.

-death note
He chose... poorly...
xoxo Xan
as well as another...


Bhaal awaits thee, Bhaal embraces thee, none escape Bhaal...
Bhaal awaits thee, Bhaal embraces thee, none escape Bhaal...
Bhaal awaits thee, Bhaal embraces thee, none escape Bhaal...

We are the faithful of Bhaal: we are few, but we are strong. We will not stand idly as the Adventurers parade themselves around, thinking they have won and thinking that it was of their own merit. We are willing to temporarily set aside our quarrels with the Harpers, whom the Adventurers have also alienated: we will allow them to deal with the Bhaalspawn if they allow us to go about our business. We are also willing to forgive the transgressions of Montaron against the Cult: he may atone for the blood of Minsc and Sarevok and regain our good graces by repurposing his talents against the Adventurers, his true enemy. We extend a welcome to Xan, who we hope will be a more powerful and less cowardly Bhaalspawn than the pitiful Jan whose final hours were spent begging to the Adventurers who she so foolishly sided with for her life. Finally, we ask Khalid to use his kills for his own enjoyment, not for the advancement of the undeserving Adventurers. We hope that Khalid will come to understand that he was destined to use his kills to restore balance in the game, not to appease the Adventurers.

Make no mistake Adventurers: your successes were not by your own merit, but by the gracious work of the Bhaalspawn. If they chose to do so, they could turn on you in an instant and remove you from this world faster than you can say "Grobnar". You would do well to show them some respect.

- Living Players -
FM Ajantis
FM Cernd
FM Coran
FM Faldorn
FM Garrick
FM Haer-Dalis
FM Kagain
FM Khalid
FM Kivan
FM Korgan
FM Montaron
FM Nalia
FM Tiax
FM Valygar
FM Xzar
FM Yeslick
FM Yoshimo

- The Deceased -
FM Edwin the Cleric - beaten to death by enraged adventurers
FM Skie the Enchanter - killed by a trap
FM Eldoth the Explorer - killed by a trap
FM Viconia the Explorer - burnt to a crisp by enraged adventurers
FM Minsc the Herald - died by magic
FM Mazzy the Assassin - died by weapons
FM Quayle the Illusionist - died by magic
FM Safana the ??? - died by weapons
FM Sarevok the Arcane Trickster - died by magic
FM Anomen the Explorer - beheaded by enraged adventurers
FM Imoen the Diviner killed by a trap.
FM Alora the Harper Guardian - struck down by Bhaal's wrath.
FM Shar-Teel the Quartermaster - hanged by enraged adventurers.
FM Jaheira the Explorer - stoned by enraged adventurers
FM Branwen the Avenger - died by weapons
FM Keldorn the Bard - killed by a trap
FM Jan the Doppelganger - drowned by enraged adventurers
FM Aerie the Ranger - died by weapons
FM Dynaheir the Grave Robber - died by magic
FM Xan the Evoker - died by weapons and magic

Day 8 ends at this time: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=0.30+gmt+september+21st+2013

9
the hammer will end the day

[FM Korgan]

Magic is in the air... Everywhere i look around! Lulz

[FM Haer-Dalis]

You have Jan as still living Bhaal.

[FM Korgan]

Uhh looks like cult is pissed. Lol

[FM Korgan]

inb4 the grave robber picked assassin to get them one kill. Guess you are out of assassins again :D

[FM Korgan]

Also what is up with all that shitty bhaal rp. Did you guys ever read some fluff of it? You just sound super silly.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

I think it is kinda funny. They went to kill Aerie and in the DN they welcomed Xan who was heartwarded with Aerie so they killed Xan too, but since he had his house evoked I guess he ended up killing the graverobber too. Atleast that is what I think happened.

[FM Khalid]

Well, I lol'd. Such a boring night, I figured we were supposed to have a night chat for funsies, but I guess the Gods changed their minds

[FM Korgan]

I think it is kinda funny. They went to kill Aerie and in the DN they welcomed Xan who was heartwarded with Aerie so they killed Xan too, but since he had his house evoked I guess he ended up killing the graverobber too. Atleast that is what I think happened.

Seems like they have once again no killer left. Unless Dynaheir had some Quartermaster charges.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

I am trying to figure out if Dynaheir is a quartermastered assassin or a town pr converted. But yea if they sent their graverobber to do the kill then they most likely have no assassins left.

[FM Korgan]

6 cult down a maximum of 4 alive. But i guess they failed at least 1 recruiting. So we are facing probably 3 at this point. + 1 bhaal spawn(gz) + 1 druid + 1 jester. and another 3 neuts and a ghost . Lol.

7 town left? Looks good!

[FM Valygar]

6 cult down a maximum of 4 alive. But i guess they failed at least 1 recruiting. So we are facing probably 3 at this point. + 1 bhaal spawn(gz) + 1 druid + 1 jester. and another 3 neuts and a ghost . Lol.

7 town left? Looks good!

Are you the Duke after all?

[FM Yeslick]

That sad feel when you had Aerie as a heal target and then switch off to Yoshimo.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

6 cult down a maximum of 4 alive. But i guess they failed at least 1 recruiting. So we are facing probably 3 at this point. + 1 bhaal spawn(gz) + 1 druid + 1 jester. and another 3 neuts and a ghost . Lol.

7 town left? Looks good!
Don't forget harpers who are basically town aligned since they can't win with anyone else.

[FM Khalid]

Boring night as in 48 hours of nothing, quite a lot of action at the end though!

Makes sense as to how the graverobber died. Dynaheir was most likely culted I do believe?

[FM Khalid]

Anyone doused? Would show it Prophet did in fact control Montaron or he was left to his own devices.

[FM Khalid]

Aerie and Xan in the same chat, both attacked by weapons.

Xan and Dynaheir both attacked by magic.

Thus, Xan was controlled into Dynaheir and set off a fireball, killing them both?

Assassin attacked Aerie, killing Xan?

So they do have an assassin right now.

[FM Khalid]

Moral of the story kids: Xan didn't stand a chance.

Second moral: damn you Kivan, that heartwarding is biting another Bhaalspawn in the ass.

[FM Khalid]

That sad feel when you had Aerie as a heal target and then switch off to Yoshimo.

Next time, you should probably follow the script...

[FM Khalid]

Oh the irony of Xan's death note on himself!

Also I bet Montaron doused Xan and thus did not douse at all!

Aight I'm done multiposting, it's too quiet in here

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Prophet- Unknown
Cult- Shar-Teel
Cult- Sarevok
Cult- Mazzy
Cult- Jan
Recruit - Minsc
Recruit - Keldorn
Recruit - Dynaheir
Recruit- Unknown
Recruit- Unknown

I know Minsc and Keldorn were recruits by their role flips, but I don't know about Dynaheir yet.

So yea 3 Cult left if they for sure missed their n5 recruit.

[FM Yeslick]

I'm going to start off some analysis on the Death Note.
Anyways what I noticed first about the Assassin's Death Note is that the Cult sound really desperate.

"We are the few but strong" -> attempts to establish alliances and shit
Trying to ally with the Harpers? ->
http://i38.tinypic.com/xm8qpv.gif

The writer also loves to use colons: there are three of them in the note. :smile:
The writer has been following the RP with the usage of "Grobnar" and the opening.

[FM Yeslick]

Ew, rereading it sounds awkward. I actually had "Motherfucker Cernd gave me the cold so I got nothing better to do" after my first line but deleted it

[FM Coran]

It's good to be alive!

I knew there was something wrong with Dynaheir when she tried to jump on me, asking Valygar to shoot me using the Bounty Hunter contract.

That put Valygar in a dangerous position me think.

[FM Yeslick]

Coran, can you point out the post number of the start of that convo?
And Valygar...that reminds me...
M3nOTsY0N+
backwards is

+N0Y sTOn3M, which is supposed to be
Tony Stonem, who is my avatar.

[FM Faldorn]

Hello!

[FM Yeslick]

Hello!

Welcome to the Salty Spitoon, how tough are ya?

[FM Faldorn]

Welcome to the Salty Spitoon, how tough are ya?

Very :)

[FM Valygar]

That's a really good catch... trying to avoid an association I suppose.

FM Aerie

Hey Valygar, be a dear and wipe out that pest Coran, would you kindly?

Here is the post to which Coran refers (post #231, Night 6).


Welcome to the Salty Spitoon, how tough are ya?

Weenie Hut Juniors is where it's at!

[FM Valygar]

Surprisingly enough, I am not Branwen right now: if no one else claims to be Branwen, I would speculate that he maybe tried to take over Aerie (which seems odd, but plausible). For my proof, I'm gonna start slowly reposting my N1 conversation with Korgan:


Speak, mortals.


Hello beautiful ;D

Ways we can use this chat:
1) Communication (obviously), specifically between puzzle chats if we have the opportunity to.
2) Doppelganger code: in the instance there is one in this setup, I would like to be prepared for the possibility that either of us is disguised as.
3) Private speculation about other players: I have a concern or two about some of the events of Day 1, and I'm sure you have some too. Although they can certainly be brought up in tomorrow's day chat, I wouldn't mind having a single person to bounce some theories and concerns off of.

I think we should either claim our actual names or our roles (but not both). I am much more in favor of claiming names as opposed to roles because it allows for simple puzzle-to-puzzle communication (I am in section B, by the way), the immediate use of disguiser codes, and it allows for us to reveal that we were in a chat together tomorrow. However, claiming roles instead of identities allows us to give role advice and possibly set ourselves up for when we eventually roleclaim. Thoughts?


By the way, this was our puzzle:


Oh hi! I just saw the PM.
The riddle seems to be easy. I think the solution is "Friendship" or something similar. It's a typical Cespenar riddle which usually are Human conditions.

Anyways my Town role has no need for soft claiming.


ok the heartwarder wont see what we write with each other. Inb4 we get both killed tonight thanks to the night chat.

During the day, may choose to unite two players, giving them a night chat the following night.

Any night action directed at one of the united players will target both players instead.

Special:
Heartwarder does not see the night chat
If Harpers try to recruit one of the united players, only their primary target is affected.


In blood it swum
when there was war.
Where there is some,
there oft is more.
On every croft
you find some grain.
In death aloft;
a higher plane.

i think its bodies, souls or corpses


I am the duke by the way. I would be glad if you could let the heartwarden know it tomorrow in the day chat. So you see i have no need to tell you what my anon account is. Now if you are a towny you could use this opportunity to claim to me.

Your choice.

More will come as requested or at the beginning of each day.

[FM Ajantis]

The Prophet - Faldorn
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Necromancer) - Montaron
Hidden Neutral (Bounty Hunter) - Nalia
Hidden Neutral (Thief/Lunatic) - Khalid
Hidden Neutral (Druid) - Tiax
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Harper (Harper Agent) - Xzar
Explorer (Harper Alchemist)
Duke
Hidden Adventurer (Ritualist/Graverobber) - Cernd
Hidden Adventurer
Hidden Adventurer (Heartwarder) - Kivan
Hidden Adventurer
Hidden Adventurer
Hidden Adventurer
Explorer
Explorer


Claims:

FM Ajantis - Explorer
FM Coran - Explorer
FM Garrick
FM Haer-Dalis - Explorer
FM Kagain
FM Korgan - Duke
FM Valygar - Explorer
FM Yeslick - Cleric
FM Yoshimo


Dead:

Hidden Cultist (Quartermaster) - Shar-Teel
Assassin (Arcane Trickter) - Sarevok
Assassin? - Jan
Assassin - Mazzy
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Doppelganger) - Safana
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Evoker) - Xan
Hidden Neutral (Avenger) - Branwen
Hidden Harper (Harper Guardian) - Alora
Cleric - Edwin
Hidden Adventurer (Herald) - Minsc
Hidden Adventurer (Bard)- Keldorn
Hidden Adventurer (Monk/Graverobber) - Dynaheir
Hidden Adventurer (Enchanter) - Skie
Hidden Adventurer (Diviner) - Imoen
Hidden Adventurer (Illusionist) - Quayle
Hidden Adventurer (Ranger) - Aerie
Explorer - Eldoth
Explorer - Viconia
Explorer - Anomen
Explorer - Jaheira

[FM Coran]

Coran, can you point out the post number of the start of that convo?
And Valygar...that reminds me...
M3nOTsY0N+
backwards is

+N0Y sTOn3M, which is supposed to be
Tony Stonem, who is my avatar.

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/22928-The-Dungeon-night-6?p=377470&viewfull=1#post377470

Thanks to Valygar for that one, I had a hard time searching for it. I somewhat forgot to note it.

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/22895-Day-6-The-Silence-before-the-Slaughter?p=377102&viewfull=1#post377102

Here she insist again.

[FM Ajantis]

FM Valygar

[FM Faldorn]

Once again, Ajantis is wrong.

[FM Kagain]

Well now that was quite a hit for the cults.

So kivan is still town, with xans death something has me wondering

if evoker dies, does the fireballs dissipate or do they remain active?

So far we know that one fireball is probably gone right now

[FM Kagain]

The Prophet - Faldorn
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Necromancer) - Montaron
Hidden Neutral (Bounty Hunter) - Nalia
Hidden Neutral (Thief/Lunatic) - Khalid
Hidden Neutral (Druid) - Tiax
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Harper (Harper Agent) - Xzar
Explorer (Harper Alchemist)
Duke
Hidden Adventurer (Ritualist/Graverobber) - Cernd
Hidden Adventurer
Hidden Adventurer (Heartwarder) - Kivan
Hidden Adventurer
Hidden Adventurer
Hidden Adventurer
Explorer
Explorer


Claims:

FM Ajantis - Explorer
FM Coran - Explorer
FM Garrick
FM Haer-Dalis - Explorer
FM Kagain
FM Korgan - Duke
FM Valygar - Explorer
FM Yeslick - Cleric
FM Yoshimo


Dead:

Hidden Cultist (Quartermaster) - Shar-Teel
Assassin (Arcane Trickter) - Sarevok
Assassin? - Jan
Assassin - Mazzy
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Doppelganger) - Safana
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Evoker) - Xan
Hidden Neutral (Avenger) - Branwen
Hidden Harper (Harper Guardian) - Alora
Cleric - Edwin
Hidden Adventurer (Herald) - Minsc
Hidden Adventurer (Bard)- Keldorn
Hidden Adventurer (Monk/Graverobber) - Dynaheir
Hidden Adventurer (Enchanter) - Skie
Hidden Adventurer (Diviner) - Imoen
Hidden Adventurer (Illusionist) - Quayle
Hidden Adventurer (Ranger) - Aerie
Explorer - Eldoth
Explorer - Viconia
Explorer - Anomen
Explorer - Jaheira

something just came up. after looking at this, cult cant have 2 grave robber is correct and with one dead that means it impossible for cernad to be a grave robber

if an assasan is converted into grave robber, is it possible for a ritualist to be converted into a second graverobber?

[FM Cernd]

Hi. I was manipulated.
FM Faldorn

[FM Kagain]

something just came up. after looking at this, cult cant have 2 grave robber is correct and with one dead that means it impossible for cernad to be a grave robber

if an assasan is converted into grave robber, is it possible for a ritualist to be converted into a second graverobber?

same also applies for monk into graverobber?

my first question would be via quartermaster. because shar claimed she converted 2 assassins

[FM Ajantis]

Once again, Ajantis is wrong.

A Ranger for a Graverobber is a good trade. I'm pleased that she was not healed by our "Cleric".

[FM Faldorn]

There is no point in voting me :/

[FM Kagain]

Hi. I was manipulated.
FM Faldorn

Go figure, what did you get as feedback?

"your target is alive"?

i would expect something funny like that

[FM Cernd]

Also. Time to massclaim.

[FM Ajantis]

Hi. I was manipulated.
FM Faldorn

Valygar can live for another day.

FM Faldorn

[FM Cernd]

Go figure, what did you get as feedback?

"your target is alive"?

i would expect something funny like that


You were compelled to act on behalf of a higher power last night.

Although that seems wrong, since it's clear than the Prophet is no match for me. He isn't a "higher power". Pff.

[FM Kagain]

Although that seems wrong, since it's clear than the Prophet is no match for me. He isn't a "higher power". Pff.

I figure

[FM Faldorn]

What are you going to do FM Ajantis when I flip Explorer?

[FM Ajantis]

What are you going to do FM Ajantis when I flip Explorer?

Continue living...

[FM Faldorn]

Continue living...

What would be your defence, for your consistant attack you have on me?

[FM Ajantis]

What would be your defence, for your consistant attack you have on me?

for your consistant attack you have on me?

your consistant attack

consistant
Cyric.

[FM Kagain]

What are you going to do FM Ajantis when I flip Explorer?

well the explorer claims are piling up, because that is what i claimed long ago

[FM Cernd]

The fact that Scumdorn is so concerned about being lynched when it's something that benefits the Town only confirms that he isn't an Explorer, or Town for that matter.

We can afford to lynch any non-confirmable role everyday and win.
Where is your Bhaal now?

[FM Faldorn]

Meh :/ Would you rarther me push everyone to lynch me when I know I'm town and is a waste lynch anyway?

Just saying, I don't mind dieing at this point to shut you all up and make you focus on the right people., just lynch someone else today.

[FM Kagain]

Meh :/ Would you rarther me push everyone to lynch me when I know I'm town and is a waste lynch anyway?

Just saying, I don't mind dieing at this point to shut you all up and make you focus on the right people., just lynch someone else today.

that contradict itself if I'm reading it correctly

FM Faldorn

explorers are disposable for us right now because that is what everyone who has not claimed will most likely be claiming now. Its only now up to Xzar to find a liar in the explorer claims

[FM Faldorn]

that contradict itself if I'm reading it correctly

FM Faldorn

explorers are disposable for us right now because that is what everyone who has not claimed will most likely be claiming now. Its only now up to Xzar to find a liar in the explorer claims

Lets see if people can use brain.

[FM Cernd]

- Voted with scum many times.
- Fakeclaimed.
- Saved Mazzy.
- Haven't helped scumhunt at all.
- Has a non confirmable role.

I don't see a single reason to keep you alive.

[FM Garrick]

FM Garrick thinks FM Korgan is a better Prophet suspect.

FM Korgan

[FM Faldorn]

-You have killed perhaps three times as much townies than scum with your so call scum hunts.
-The fakeclaim other people made for me, so I had to go along with it.
-I killed Vic, because the two other clues against here where faked. Sorry I lynched someone who looked the worst off.
-Your scumhunts are failours. You need obvious signs to lynch someone, if you don't you pick someone and attack them from everypoint untill they die and reveal town.
-Not my falut.

Because I have not told you the reason to keep me alive today.

[FM Faldorn]

Garrick, you claimed Neutral right?

[FM Garrick]

FM Garrick wonders if FM Dynaheir was the town Mortician or if FM Dynaheir was recruited as a citizen and given a role upgrade. How sure are we that FM Jan was originally an assassin?

Possible Scenario

Night Prophet Actions Role Blocks Quartermaster
N1 [FM Keldorn/FM Minsc] QuayleFM Sarevok – Arcane Trickster
N2 [FM Keldorn] Tiax---
N3 [FM Minsc/FM Dynaheir] Yeslick ---
N4 Jan/MontaronFM Dynaheir - Graverobber
N5 FM Xzar Failed Recruit JaheiraLYNCHED D5
N6 [FM Cernd?] Yoshimo
N7 Control FM Cernd

[FM Cernd]

-You have killed perhaps three times as much townies than scum with your so call scum hunts.
False. I haven't mislynched a single time.

-The fakeclaim other people made for me, so I had to go along with it.
Oh, you were forced to lie. Poor you.

-I killed Vic, because the two other clues against here where faked. Sorry I lynched someone who looked the worst off.
No, Mazzy was obvious scum. You are either cult or an idiot.

-Your scumhunts are failours. You need obvious signs to lynch someone, if you don't you pick someone and attack them from everypoint untill they die and reveal town.
Exactly. Scum stands no chance against me, and all petty cultists break under my pressure, just like you're doing.

-Not my falut.
Au contraire.


Because I have not told you the reason to keep me alive today.
Like anything you say can make a difference. You die today, scum.

[FM Garrick]

Garrick, you claimed Neutral right?

FM Garrick will ignore this for now.

[FM Cernd]

FM Garrick wonders if FM Dynaheir was the town Mortician or if FM Dynaheir was recruited as a citizen and given a role upgrade. How sure are we that FM Jan was originally an assassin?

Possible Scenario

Night Prophet Actions Role Blocks Quartermaster
N1 [FM Keldorn/FM Minsc] QuayleFM Sarevok – Arcane Trickster
N2 [FM Keldorn] Tiax---
N3 [FM Minsc/FM Dynaheir] Yeslick ---
N4 Jan/MontaronFM Dynaheir - Graverobber
N5 FM Xzar Failed Recruit JaheiraLYNCHED D5
N6 [FM Cernd?] Yoshimo
N7 Control FM Cernd
So I was converted n6 and manipulated n7?
Sounds legit.

[FM Cernd]

Confirmed: Montaron, Naila, Kivan, Cernd, Khalid.
Semi-confirmed: Xzar.
Non-confirmed: Yeslick.
Explorer claims: Ajantis, Coran, Faldorn, Haer-Dallis, Kagain, Tiax.
No claim: Garrick, Valygar, Yoshimo.

Did I miss something?

There's only place for 3 Explorers (implying that no Explorer was converted).
We can ignore Ajantis' "Greater Explorer" claim. >_>
The remaining ones should be lynched from most scummy to most townie.

[FM Garrick]

FM Garrick thinks that FM Korgan is a lot scummier than FM Faldorn.

[FM Yeslick]

Does anyone else think Kagain is scummy???????

[FM Cernd]

Ah, right, I missed Korgan in that list.

Confirmed: Montaron, Naila, Kivan, Cernd, Khalid.
Semi-confirmed: Xzar.
Non-confirmed: Yeslick.
Explorer claims: Ajantis, Coran, Faldorn, Haer-Dallis, Kagain, Tiax.
No claim: Garrick, Valygar, Yoshimo, Korgan.


Garrick. Whatever the order, we can lynh all non confirmed players and win. Faldorn today. He was supposed to get lynched d4.

[FM Garrick]

So I was converted n6 and manipulated n7?
Sounds legit.

FM Garrick thought FM Cernd could be recruited because FM Cernd lurked almost all of Day 7 with a personality change. FM Garrick is suspicious of FM Cernd claiming manipulated and the Prophet stayed home. FM Garrick does not completely trust FM Cernd yet. FM Cernd if you were not recruited on N6, then who do you think was?

FM Garrick thinks that FM Valygar could be the N4 recruit.


Confirmed: Montaron, Naila, Kivan, Cernd, Khalid.
Semi-confirmed: Xzar.
Non-confirmed: Yeslick.
Explorer claims: Ajantis, Coran, Faldorn, Haer-Dallis, Kagain, Tiax.
No claim: Garrick, Valygar, Yoshimo.

Did I miss something?

There's only place for 3 Explorers (implying that no Explorer was converted).
We can ignore Ajantis' "Greater Explorer" claim. >_>
The remaining ones should be lynched from most scummy to most townie.

FM Cernd is missing FM Korgan who is the biggest Prophet suspect of all.

[FM Cernd]

Does anyone else think Kagain is scummy???????
I do.

[FM Cernd]

FM Cernd if you were not recruited on N6, then who do you think was?
Korgan.

[FM Yeslick]

explorers are disposable for us right now because that is what everyone who has not claimed will most likely be claiming now. Its only now up to Xzar to find a liar in the explorer claims

That last part. It's "up to Xzar to find a liar" makes me think he's a Prophet who wants Xzar to check him and inno him as NS.

[FM Garrick]

Does anyone else think Kagain is scummy???????

FM Garrick does not think FM Kagain is scummy. FM Kagain was on the N6 puzzle chat train that sent FM Keldorn to his death. FM Kagain could have unvoted and voted FM Haer-Dalis to send FM Haer-Dalis to die instead of FM Keldorn.

FM Keldorn (6): FM Aerie [621], FM Ajantis [628], FM Kivan [666], FM Haer-Dalis [672], FM Aerie [692], FM Kagain [693], FM Tiax [714], FM Garrick [723], FM Kivan [794]

FM Garrick thinks that this train soft clears FM Ajantis, FM Haer-Dalis, FM Garrick, and FM Kagain from being cult at least before the last night of recruitment. At least 3 of these players will be town.

[FM Cernd]

Garrick, why is Korgan a better Prophet candidate for you than Faldorn or Coran?

[FM Garrick]

Not cult:
FM Kivan - Heartwarded on N7
FM Montaron - Necromancer, Prophet would be dead if FM Montaron was converted.
FM Khalid - Thief/Lunatic, wanted to be lynched on D7
FM Xzar - Harper Agent
FM Tiax - Druid
FM Nalia - gave a contract to FM Valygar on N6

Not cult as of N6 (1 could be last recruit):
FM Ajantis - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Haer-Dalis - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Garrick - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Kagain - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Yoshimo - roleblocked N6 by culted Bard

Probably not cult:
FM Cernd - Ritualist
FM Yeslick - FM Garrick does not believe the Druid claim but he is less scummy than others

Suspects:
FM Valygar - shot FM Branwen with the Bounty Hunter, potential cultist
FM Korgan - potential Prophet
FM Faldorn - potential Prophet
FM Coran - potential Prophet

[FM Yeslick]

I did not claim Druid.

[FM Garrick]

Garrick, why is Korgan a better Prophet candidate for you than Faldorn or Coran?

FM Korgan FoS's people who later flip cult but FM Korgan never pushes hard against them. After people FM Korgan FoS's flip cult, FM Korgan congratulates FM Korgan on being a pro scumhunter.

FM Garrick thinks FM Korgan calls out teammates to distance himself but FM Korgan does not want to start trains on his teammates because of the threat of being lynched. The distancing without backing things up with votes makes FM Garrick convinced that FM Korgan is cult.

FM Faldorn and FM Coran do not have this huge scumtell that FM Korgan has.

[FM Garrick]

I did not claim Druid.

FM Garrick meant to type Cleric.

[FM Cernd]

Suspects:
FM Valygar - shot FM Branwen with the Bounty Hunter, potential cultist
FM Korgan - potential Prophet
FM Faldorn - potential Prophet
FM Coran - potential Prophet

I approve this list and think that the three potential Prophet candidates should be the lynches for days 8, 9 & 10.

[FM Yeslick]

FM Faldorn

I'm backing a Faldorn lynch. He's second scummiest after Kagain to me.
I don't think Coran is the Prophet because Dynaheir asked Valygar to take her out. It doesn't seem right that Dynaheir would be recruited, as the Prophet has been recruiting strong Town reads for a majority of the game. I believe Dynaheir was one of the starting Assassins that was quartered by Shar-Teel to Graverobber.

[FM Garrick]

Updated

Not cult:
FM Kivan - Heartwarded on N7
FM Montaron - Necromancer, Prophet would be dead if FM Montaron was converted.
FM Khalid - Thief/Lunatic, wanted to be lynched on D7
FM Xzar - Harper Agent
FM Tiax - Druid
FM Nalia - gave a contract to FM Valygar on N6

Not cult as of N6 (1 could be last recruit):
FM Ajantis - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Haer-Dalis - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Garrick - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Kagain - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Yoshimo - roleblocked N6 by culted Bard

Probably not cult:
FM Cernd - Ritualist
FM Yeslick - Cleric, not prophet because FM Yeslick was interviewed by the culted Herald and roleblocked by the culted Bard.

Suspects:
FM Valygar - shot FM Branwen with the Bounty Hunter, potential cultist
FM Korgan - potential Prophet
FM Faldorn - potential Prophet
FM Coran - potential Prophet

[FM Yeslick]

FM Faldorn

I'm backing a Faldorn lynch. He's second scummiest after Kagain to me.
I don't think Coran is the Prophet because Dynaheir asked Valygar to take her out. It doesn't seem right that Dynaheir would be recruited, as the Prophet has been recruiting strong Town reads for a majority of the game. I believe Dynaheir was one of the starting Assassins that was quartered by Shar-Teel to Graverobber.

Actually....
I need moar Kagain/Faldorn posts.

[FM Garrick]

I'm backing a Faldorn lynch. He's second scummiest after Kagain to me.
I don't think Coran is the Prophet because Dynaheir asked Valygar to take her out. It doesn't seem right that Dynaheir would be recruited, as the Prophet has been recruiting strong Town reads for a majority of the game. I believe Dynaheir was one of the starting Assassins that was quartered by Shar-Teel to Graverobber.

FM Garrick agrees with the part about FM Dynaheir. After thinking about it, FM Minsc as the N3 recruit makes more sense than FM Minsc as the N1 recruit because FM Minsc interviewed FM Shar-Teel on N2.

If FM Dynaheir was the starting cultist then FM Mazzy, FM Sarevok, and FM Dynaheir were the starting three. FM Jan may not be a cultist at all.

[FM Cernd]

Shar-Teel was the starting Hidden Cultist. She was not a converted jailor.

[FM Garrick]

FM Garrick hopes that FM Xzar checked FM Valygar last night. This is important information to know since FM Valygar is probably not the Prophet.

FM Garrick will be really mad if FM Faldorn is lynched today. FM Korgan is much scummier and a better Prophet suspect for reasons FM Garrick called FM Korgan out on.

[FM Cernd]

Korgan hasn't claimed, and there's no place for more Explorer claims, so I'm waiting for a PR claim with confirmable feedback.

[FM Cernd]

Same for Yoshimo, Valygar and yourself.

[FM Garrick]

FM Garrick thinks that FM Korgan will claim Antagonist with FM Haer-Dalis as a target. FM Korgan is not a Lunatic yet since FM Haer-Dalis is alive. FM Garrick thinks that lynching FM Korgan is the best because it either gets rid of the Prophet or the last unknown neutral spot.

[FM Garrick]

Korgan hasn't claimed, and there's no place for more Explorer claims, so I'm waiting for a PR claim with confirmable feedback.

FM Garrick requests that everyone vote FM Korgan to pressure FM Korgan to claim. FM Faldorn already claimed so there is not much more information to get from voting FM Faldorn.

[quote]Same for Yoshimo, Valygar and yourself.[quote]

FM Garrick thinks that FM Yoshimo and FM Garrick are confirmed enough by being blocked by the culted Bard and the N6 puzzle chat vote. There is really no reason to make potential non-explorers reveal their roles if they are already semi-confirmed based on convincing evidence.

[FM Garrick]

Come on. You do not get ANYTHING out of pressuring FM Faldorn. You can get a role claim if you pressure FM Korgan.

Vote FM Korgan if you want FM Korgan to claim. The train can shift to FM Faldorn later if we decide FM Korgan's claim is believable. For now he is the biggest Prophet suspect.

[FM Cernd]

Antagonist? The same could be said for yourself, with Korgan as your target.
That's why everyone needs to claim today.
I don't want surprises and I'm not switching my vote just because you want me to. Especially when you won't even claim.

Faldorn is the most scummy Explorer claim so far.

[FM Garrick]

Antagonist? The same could be said for yourself, with Korgan as your target.
That's why everyone needs to claim today.
I don't want surprises and I'm not switching my vote just because you want me to. Especially when you won't even claim.

Faldorn is the most scummy Explorer claim so far.

FM Garrick does not do mass role claim day or claim for no apparent reason. FM Garrick is not even a cult suspect based on FM Garrick's voting pattern. FM Garrick refuses to role claim. FM Garrick hopes that FM Ajantis comes back agrees with FM Garrick.

[FM Valygar]

No claim: Garrick, Valygar, Yoshimo, Korgan.

I claimed Explorer yesterday...

I would welcome Xzar checking me because it would also almost ensure that I become the next Harper.

[FM Cernd]

Ok, then there's no reason to follow you on Korgan.

[FM Cernd]

I claimed Explorer yesterday...

I would welcome Xzar checking me because it would also almost ensure that I become the next Harper.

Ah, my bad.

Confirmed: Montaron, Naila, Kivan, Cernd, Khalid.
Semi-confirmed: Xzar.
Non-confirmed: Yeslick, Tiax.
Explorer claims: Ajantis, Coran, Faldorn, Haer-Dallis, Kagain, Valygar.
No claim: Garrick, Yoshimo, Korgan.

All good?

[FM Garrick]

Ok, then there's no reason to follow you on Korgan.

FM Cernd is cult because FM Cernd does not want to vote up the Prophet.

Does FM Cernd really not see why a town role might not want to reveal their role yet?

[FM Cernd]

Cernd is cult because he won't do what I want him to do.
Fucking solid logic.

[FM Yeslick]

I claimed Explorer yesterday...

I would welcome Xzar checking me because it would also almost ensure that I become the next Harper.

Prophets, prophets everywhere

[FM Kagain]

Ah, my bad.

Confirmed: Montaron, Naila, Kivan, Cernd, Khalid.
Semi-confirmed: Xzar.
Non-confirmed: Yeslick, Tiax.
Explorer claims: Ajantis, Coran, Faldorn, Haer-Dallis, Kagain, Valygar.
No claim: Garrick, Yoshimo, Korgan.

All good?

I truck garrick more right now then you cnard

FM Cernd

start by posting all your investigations results yours is wrong for a night chat arie did visit mazzy and your "results" said it did not. Try harder you are by no means confirmed either

[FM Yeslick]

I truck garrick more right now then you cnard

FM Cernd

start by posting all your investigations results yours is wrong for a night chat arie did visit mazzy and your "results" said it did not. Try harder you are by no means confirmed either

That was a host error or something.
Is your role Prophet?

[FM Cernd]

lmao, this pleb.

[FM Cernd]

Also, you might as well say that Khalid is my cult partner, since he said he got the same last will from Mazzy as I did.
Dumbs will be dumb.

[FM Garrick]

Prophets, prophets everywhere

Remember that FM Valygar can not be the Prophet (or highly unlikely) because FM Valygar tried to get the bounty hunter kill.


Cernd is cult because he won't do what I want him to do.
Fucking solid logic.

FM Garrick thinks FM Cernd is setting FM Cernd up to be another FM Jaheira. Trying to protect a cultist for a strange reason that is not explainable. FM Haer-Dalis is soft confirmed town. FM Garrick wonders who FM Korgan will FoS today since FM Haer-Dalis is not a valid target anymore.

[FM Garrick]

Also, you might as well say that Khalid is my cult partner, since he said he got the same last will from Mazzy as I did.
Dumbs will be dumb.

FM Garrick thinks that FM Cernd was taken over by the Avenger. FM Branwerd, please reveal and tell us what alignment FM Valygar is.

[FM Cernd]

FM Garrick thinks FM Cernd is setting FM Cernd up to be another FM Jaheira. Trying to protect a cultist for a strange reason that is not explainable.

You're fucking retarded if you ever try to target me under that excuse. I'm in no way defending Korgan. I'm attacking Faldorn, who I've wanted dead since d4, just like I wanted Mazzy dead since d1.

I'm here to kill cultists, not to please imbeciles.

[FM Cernd]

It's funny how after I say that we can lynch all Explorer claims and win, some show up and try to derail votes onto people who haven't even claimed.

You are weak. I will win.

[FM Garrick]

I'm here to kill cultists, not to please imbeciles.

This is why FM Garrick will not claim today. FM Garrick refuses to please the imbeciles.

[FM Cernd]

Aww, how cute, using my words to excuse his bullshit.

Anyway. cyMoar.png etc. You're boring. I'm out.

[FM Garrick]

It's funny how after I say that we can lynch all Explorer claims and win, some show up and try to derail votes onto people who haven't even claimed.

You are weak. I will win.

FM Cernd please go through the player list and write arguments for why each player can or cannot be scum. Lynching all the Explorer claims will not result in a town win if a power role such as FM Cernd was culted.

[FM Garrick]

Aww, how cute, using my words to excuse his bullshit.

Anyway. cyMoar.png etc. You're boring. I'm out.

All the townies out there should comment on FM Garrick's list or make one of their own to confirm that FM Garrick's logic is correct.

Updated again because FM Nalia technically could be culted on N6 and FM Tiax could also be culted. The categories should be updated to include levels of uncertainty.

Not cult:
FM Kivan - Heartwarded on N7
FM Montaron - Necromancer, Prophet would be dead if FM Montaron was converted.
FM Khalid - Thief/Lunatic, wanted to be lynched on D7
FM Xzar - Harper Agent

Not cult as of N6 (1 could be last recruit):
FM Ajantis - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Haer-Dalis - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Garrick - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Kagain - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Yoshimo - roleblocked N6 by culted Bard
FM Nalia - gave a contract to FM Valygar on N6

Probably not cult:
FM Cernd - Ritualist
FM Yeslick - Cleric, not prophet because FM Yeslick was interviewed by the culted Herald and roleblocked by the culted Bard.
FM Tiax - Druid

Suspects:
FM Valygar - shot FM Branwen with the Bounty Hunter, potential cultist.
FM Korgan - potential Prophet
FM Faldorn - potential Prophet
FM Coran - potential Prophet

[FM Ajantis]

Avatar of Cyric should be offered to Bhaal today.


Suspects:
FM Valygar - shot FM Branwen with the Bounty Hunter, potential cultist
FM Korgan - potential Prophet
FM Faldorn - potential Prophet
FM Coran - potential Prophet

Valygar - unlikely to be Prophet.

Korgan - Valygar said he claimed Duke. Exposed Cult without attracting attention to himself. Unlikely to be Prophet.

Coran - claimed Explorer, acted like Explorer, unlikely to be Prophet.

Faldorn - acted too pro-town for Druid, hates Thieves for funny reasons, volunteers to disable traps, refuse to contribute puzzle answers, from the Den of Evil, claimed "Druid" to fellow cultist, claimed Explorer after IS opens, afraid to die, derailed lynch on Mazzy, did not vote Shar-Teel, did not vote Keldorn, did not scumhunt, afraid of Safana. Prophet beyond doubt.

[FM Garrick]

Voting record
FM Korgan FM Coran FM Faldorn
D1 x FM Mazzy FM Edwin
D2 FM Alora x FM Khalid
D3 FM Viconia FM Viconia FM Viconia
D4 FM Haer-Dalis FM Anomen x
D5 FM Haer-Dalis x FM Branwen
D6 FM Haer-Dalis FM Khalid x
N6 FM Haer-Dalis x FM Yoshimo
D7 x FM Jan FM Jan

FM Garrick thinks that all three have terrible voting records. FM Garrick wants to know why FM Korgan is only voting FM Haer-Dalis since D4. Should we not make FM Korgan claim?

[FM Ajantis]

At least Korgan helped with solving clues. And outed scums. Imbeciles won't notice it of course. His subtlety is beyond the comprehension of their puny brains. Korgan is not Prophet.

[FM Khalid]

Or, ya know, you could lynch me like the plan was yesterday, and I can knock out two scummy explorers, or 1 scummy explorer and the Druid claimer, in one go.

Much more efficient than the plan to go through one by one, especially since there's a very good chance the cult still has an assassin left from the deaths last night.

I'm of the opinion Jan may not have been an assassin after all btdubs, from Safana's actions. Surprised she didn't slip it into her last will to piss/confuse us all.

Also fuck Cernd, I was in the clear, why'd you have to out us??

[FM Garrick]

At least Korgan helped with solving clues. And outed scums. Imbeciles won't notice it of course. His subtlety is beyond the comprehension of their puny brains. Korgan is not Prophet.

FM Korgan helped with solving clues? Are you kidding? FM Garrick was in the chat where FM Korgan asked if the ghost peed on the grave.

FM Garrick is sure that we do not want to lynch FM Faldorn today. FM Garrick would much rather lynch FM Korgan today, but if FM Garrick has to reveal what FM Garrick knows about FM Faldorn to save FM Faldorn from a lynch then FM Garrick will. FM Garrick highly recommends against FM Garrick revealing FM Faldorn's role. FM Garrick reviewed FM Garrick's notes and FM Garrick came up with a huge realization about FM Faldorn.

[FM Garrick]

Revised theory.

FM Coran is the Prophet. The pieces of the puzzle are falling into place.

FM Coran

[FM Khalid]

Or you could, ya know, lynch me and make Faldorn vote for me or he's insta-lynched today?

Aight I'll stop begging now

[FM Ajantis]

Garrick is acting like Anomen and Jaheira... but this time Garrick has indeed fallen... Faldorn culted Garrick N6 hoping to net an Explorer after Shar-Teel's last will. Sad to see town lost Garrick...

About clues, Korgan found out that something was buried in the grave. Relevant question mixed together with junk, of course...

[FM Garrick]

Or you could, ya know, lynch me and make Faldorn vote for me or he's insta-lynched today?

Aight I'll stop begging now

FM Garrick wants to figure out who the remaining scum are before we figure out who to lynch today. If we vote to lynch you, you are not allowed to kill FM Faldorn.

[FM Yeslick]

Korgan also found out if the ghost was gay or not.

[FM Garrick]

Garrick is acting like Anomen and Jaheira... but this time Garrick has indeed fallen... Faldorn culted Garrick N6 hoping to net an Explorer after Shar-Teel's last will. Sad to see town lost Garrick...

About clues, Korgan found out that something was buried in the grave. Relevant question mixed together with junk, of course...

FM Garrick does not care if you think FM Garrick was culted. FM Garrick just knows we should not lynch FM Faldorn.

FM Garrick also updated the cult recruiting actions

Night Prophet Actions Role Blocks Quartermaster
N1 [failed recruit] QuayleFM Sarevok – Arcane Trickster
N2 [FM Keldorn] Tiax---
N3 [FM Minsc Yeslick ---
N4 Jan/MontaronFM Dynaheir - Graverobber
N5 FM Xzar Failed Recruit JaheiraLYNCHED D5
N6 [FM Cernd?] Yoshimo
N7 Control FM Cernd

FM Garrick wonders if this is enough of a clue.

[FM Cernd]

Also fuck Cernd, I was in the clear, why'd you have to out us??
Kagain is just too smart. He would've figured it out anyway.
It's time for us to capitulate.

[FM Cernd]

Also, we will give you your win. Just wait a couple of days.

[FM Khalid]

Korgan also found out if the ghost was gay or not.

Something we actually got an answer to, surprisingly

[FM Ajantis]

Garrick wanted to claim Spy and said that Faldorn is the Duke. But Garrick forgot that Faldorn volunteered to disable traps and was afraid of Thieves. And Garrick forgot that the Duke requires no defense from lowly Spy. The Duke is the Duke.

[FM Garrick]

Garrick wanted to claim Spy and said that Faldorn is the Duke. But Garrick forgot that Faldorn volunteered to disable traps and was afraid of Thieves. And Garrick forgot that the Duke requires no defense from lowly Spy. The Duke is the Duke.

FM Faldorn is not the duke.

[FM Ajantis]

First Anomen. Then Jaheira. Third time is the charm.

[FM Garrick]

First Anomen. Then Jaheira. Third time is the charm.

FM Faldorn is the real Harper Agent. Do you want FM Garrick's proof?

[FM Garrick]

The cult should have figured it out by now so FM Garrick does not mind revealing it. This is why FM Garrick thinks it is weird that the Prophet controlled FM Cernd last night instead of the Harper Alchemist. FM Garrick thinks that FM Cernd could be fake claiming as a cult member.

[FM Cernd]

I already told you. I fake claimed and I'm a Cultist together with Khalid.

I've only been tunneling Cultists because I'm overconfident and I know I can win even if I end up lynching the rest of my team.

You should earn the MVP award, and be considered for MENSA membership.

[FM Ajantis]

Garrick IQ skydived and became a retard today. What happened? Garrick is blabbering and not talking coherently. Garrick started accusing without furnishing proof. Garrick missed out a few important lines of thought.

[FM Nalia]

Hey guys, why you don't leave Faldorn alone? I'm going to contract him tonight.

[FM Garrick]

Hey guys, why you don't leave Faldorn alone? I'm going to contract him tonight.

FM Faldorn is not scum though. FM Garrick knows that FM Faldorn will decline the contract to do a Harper night action. FM Nalia should contract FM Montaron if FM Nalia wants to fill a scum contract and a town contract.

[FM Garrick]

Reasons why FM Faldorn is the real Harper Agent

1. FM Faldorn had a host error in FM Faldorn's feedback on N1. The hosts messed up and said FM Faldorn was lured (enchanter/Prophet control feedback) in error when FM Faldorn was actually immune to the conversion.

2. FM Faldorn and FM Alora vote together as a voting block. FM Faldorn never votes FM Alora and FM Alora never votes FM Faldorn.

D1: FM Edwin (Cleric) Lynch

FM Edwin (19 [L-0]): FM Safana, FM Faldorn, FM Shar-Teel, FM Yeslick, FM Sarevok, FM Skie, FM Haer-Dalis, FM Anomen, FM Montaron, FM Aerie – Ranger, FM Alora, FM Valygar, FM Xan, FM Minsc, FM Xzar – Harper, FM Imoen, FM Jaheira, FM Jan, FM Quayle

D2: No Lynch

FM Khalid (3): FM Anomen, FM Faldorn, FM Alora

3. FM Garrick could not find FM Faldorn's role list, but it had FM Faldorn as Druid with a question mark and a invisible seed because FM Faldorn recruited a second Harper.

4. FM Xzar soft claimed that FM Faldorn is the Harper Agent.

FM Xzar [7.502] posts FM Faldorn NS because FM Xzar was harpered by FM Faldorn. Here is the sequence of events.

Harper Guardian Modkilled N4
FM Faldorn recruits FM Xzar on N5
N6 FM Xzar learns of other Harper Identity (FM Faldorn)
Day 7, FM Xzar posts that FM Faldorn is NS. [7.502] When pressured for more information, FM Xzar posts easily confirmable information and a NS on his townread FM Aerie

5. FM Faldorn's behavior is consistent with a Harper Agent. FM Faldorn fake claimed Druid in order to survive as long as possible. FM Faldorn claimed Explorer because he was counterclaimed by the real Druid. FM Faldorn keeps hinting that we should not lynch him.

Do you now believe FM Garrick that FM Faldorn is the real Harper Agent?

[FM Cernd]

We'll see what he flips after he dies.
We have many reasons to lynch him, and your thing is nothing but a theory from a random player.

Plus a Harper wouldn't be a mislynch. I'm siding with Montaron.

[FM Garrick]

This means that there are at most 3 cultists left (including the Prophet.)


Night Prophet Actions Role Blocks Quartermaster
N1 FM Faldorn Failed RecruitQuayleFM Sarevok – Arcane Trickster
N2 FM Keldorn Tiax---
N3 FM Minsc Yeslick ---
N4 Jan/MontaronFM Dynaheir - Graverobber
N5 FM Xzar Failed Recruit JaheiraLYNCHED D5
N6 [FM Cernd?] Yoshimo
N7 Control FM Cernd


The Prophet knows that FM Faldorn is the original second harper because of the failed recruit on N1. So why does not the Prophet control FM Xzar to get Harper Fire? Why does the Prophet choose to control FM Cernd? FM Garrick finds this suspicious.

[FM Garrick]

We'll see what he flips after he dies.
We have many reasons to lynch him, and your thing is nothing but a theory from a random player.

Plus a Harper wouldn't be a mislynch. I'm siding with Montaron.

FM Garrick would rather lynch a Prophet suspect today than a Harper. FM Faldorn or FM Xzar can come on and say if FM Garrick is right. Do you not think that this is a convincing case for FM Faldorn being a Harper?

[FM Valygar]

Prophets, prophets everywhere

1) Thank you for completely ignoring part 2 of the statement.
2) The Prophet cannot manipulate the Harper Alchemist because Harpers are conversion/manipulation immune.
3) Oh no, if you guys kill Faldorn then Nalia can't win LOL! How will we ever achieve our win conditions of making as many neutrals win as possible?

[FM Cernd]

FM Garrick would rather lynch a Prophet suspect today than a Harper. FM Faldorn or FM Xzar can come on and say if FM Garrick is right. Do you not think that this is a convincing case for FM Faldorn being a Harper?

No.
I was hoping that you would have some sort of feedback to back up your theories.

But since it's only your beliefs against what Faldorn has done, I'll keep my vote on him.

I doubt he's a Harper. Harpers have done nothing for the Town anyway.
Wanna know who Alora protected? Shar-Teel. lel

What has Faldorn done other than vote with the Cult and derail trains on confirmed Cultists?

He dies today. He's useless and anti-town.

[FM Cernd]

Nalia. Garrick thinks I'm a Cultists. Give me a contract.

[FM Ajantis]

Garrick messed up all the mechanics...

Show me where the setup says Harpers cannot be lured/repelled.
Harpers don't know each other until Sanctum opened. Thus Xzar won't know it's Faldorn.
As Valygar said, Harpers cannot be manipulated, why Prophet would target Harper?
Why are you defending Faldorn when you don't even know if she is indeed Harper?
Xzar is recruited by Harper N5? But Prophet recruits before Harpers.
You mean Xzar gave us fake investigation results yesterday?

Ur dumb.

[FM Cernd]

Also, there's the fact that he said that he claimed Survivor to try and avoid being converted.

1: A survivor (or any purple neutral) is a great conversion target.
2: Why would a Harper fear being converted, since he's conversion immune?
3: This isn't a SC2 game. Only scum and idiots would fakeclaim.

[FM Garrick]

The order of Operations puts culting before Ritualist. Therefore FM Cernd was culted N6 because he could not have checked FM Mazzy on N4 if he was the N4 cult target.


Night Prophet Actions Role Blocks Quartermaster
N1 FM Faldorn Failed RecruitQuayleFM Sarevok – Arcane Trickster
N2 FM Keldorn Tiax---
N3 FM Minsc Yeslick ---
N4 Jan/MontaronFM Dynaheir - Graverobber
N5 FM Xzar Failed Recruit JaheiraLYNCHED D5
N6 FM Cernd Yoshimo
N7 "Control FM Cernd"


Prophet - FM Coran
Graverobber - FM Cernd
Hidden Cultist (N4) - ???

Any guesses on the last hidden cultist? FM Valygar seems like an easy pick because of the FM Branwen thing. Too many people are soft cleared. FM Valygar might be an Assassin who was not sent to kill tonight in case FM Valygar was tracked by FM Aerie and FM Aerie did not die as planned.

Not cult:
FM Kivan - Heartwarded on N7
FM Montaron - Necromancer, Prophet would be dead if FM Montaron was converted.
FM Khalid - Thief/Lunatic, wanted to be lynched on D7
FM Xzar - Harper Agent

Not cult as of N6 if FM Cernd was recruited N6:
FM Ajantis - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Haer-Dalis - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Garrick - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Kagain - voted on FM Keldorn N6
FM Yoshimo - roleblocked N6 by culted Bard
FM Nalia - gave a contract to FM Valygar on N6

Probably not cult:
FM Yeslick - Cleric, not prophet because FM Yeslick was interviewed by the culted Herald and roleblocked by the culted Bard.
FM Tiax - Druid
FM Faldorn - Harper Agent?

Suspects:
FM Coran - potential Prophet
FM Cernd - Ritualist/Graverobber
FM Valygar - shot FM Branwen with the Bounty Hunter, potential cult Assasin.

FM Korgan - potential Prophet

[FM Ajantis]

Nalia you can give a gun to Garrick and hope that he is a Cult.

[FM Cernd]

lol, this pleb is so bad, it makes me sad.
Uninstall Mafia.

[FM Faldorn]

Sorry Garrick, I wish I was Harper. But I am not I am Explorer. And even if you where right it would still end up in my death.

And dear Cernd. You will not be voting me up today, and you should lynch someone else. I will tell you why when I'm allowed to, or you can just USE YOUR BRAIN.

[FM Xzar]

Hey guys, don't have enough time right now to read but I wanted to say the following:

I checked Dynaheir but he is dead now anyway so my result is useless.

I did indeed recruit an Alchemist and there may or may not be a fire that the Alchemist has given out.

[FM Cernd]

Sorry Garrick, I wish I was Harper. But I am not I am Explorer. And even if you where right it would still end up in my death.

And dear Cernd. You will not be voting me up today, and you should lynch someone else. I will tell you why when I'm allowed to, or you can just USE YOUR BRAIN.

I am voting you, no matter what you do or claim.
You can just GO FUCK YOURSELF.

[FM Cernd]

in other words. My vote will stay on you, even after you claim being the Duke and are revealed as such.

[FM Ajantis]

Sorry Garrick, I wish I was Harper. But I am not I am Explorer. And even if you where right it would still end up in my death.

And dear Cernd. You will not be voting me up today, and you should lynch someone else. I will tell you why when I'm allowed to, or you can just USE YOUR BRAIN.

As Avatar of Cyric you sound less convincing than Saruman. All I see are unsubstantiated, baseless and pitiful excuses. Stop the ambiguity. Come straight to the point.

[FM Faldorn]

Faldorn - acted too pro-town for Druid Because I'm Explorer
, hates Thieves for funny reasons They want to open the san, which gives cult lots of kills.
, volunteers to disable traps I have unimportant role
, refuse to contribute puzzle answers Pretty sure I attpemted to help you and your forgetting it, I would ask questions which stop people asking whole sections of needless questions, I attpemted other puzzles and only didn't help out on the ones i'm useless with
, from the Den of Evil, claimed "Druid" to fellow cultist Puzzle chats are random. And why would prophet recruit from just one chat?
, claimed Explorer after IS opensHad to, because someone claimed druid, I was hopething they would stay quiet, and I cant be convert anymore
, afraid to die I dont want to die, I enjoy playing
, derailed lynch on Mazzy To target, at the time, Most Logical lynch
, did not vote Shar-Teel I also didn't vote a lot of town players you lynched
, did not vote Keldorn, I generally didnt vote a lot,
did not scumhunt The scumhunts you all seem to be good at, completely suck and end up losing. i refuse to be part of a pre-decided game play that everyone has to follow or they get lynched
, afraid of Safana. She can be used to kill by prophet, she can esaily turn on town that turn on her
Prophet beyond doubt. You are stupid. If I was Prophet I would not of played like this, because I would look like Prophet. Your looking for someone who is hiding not being stupid like me.


Meh

[FM Garrick]

Garrick messed up all the mechanics...

1. Show me where the setup says Harpers cannot be lured/repelled.
2. Harpers don't know each other until Sanctum opened. Thus Xzar won't know it's Faldorn.
3. As Valygar said, Harpers cannot be manipulated, why Prophet would target Harper?
4. Why are you defending Faldorn when you don't even know if she is indeed Harper?
5. Xzar is recruited by Harper N5? But Prophet recruits before Harpers.
6. You mean Xzar gave us fake investigation results yesterday?

Ur dumb.

1. Harpers are immune to conversion.

The hosts messed up the failed conversion and sent FM Faldorn a prophet control/enchanter lure feedback instead.

2. Harpers don't know each other until Sanctum opened. Thus Xzar won't know it's Faldorn.



Explorer is recruited as a Harper:
[recruiter name] welcomed you into the secret society of the Harpers.

This is how FM Xzar knew FM Faldorn was the other Harper.

3. As Valygar said, Harpers cannot be manipulated, why Prophet would target Harper?

Ok, FM Garrick did not know that the Harpers can not be manipulated. Good point. But FM Cernd is still scummy for wanting to lynch a Harper.

4. Why are you defending Faldorn when you don't even know if she is indeed Harper?

FM Garrick is convinced by the evidence.

5. Xzar is recruited by Harper N5? But Prophet recruits before Harpers.

FM Xzar claimed to have been attempted to recruited on N5. FM Garrick is not sure about this one.

6. You mean Xzar gave us fake investigation results yesterday?

FM Garrick found it to be a breadcrumb that FM Xzar said initially that only FM Faldorn was ns.

FM Garrick thinks that FM Faldorn being a Harper explains weird things like false feedback to FM Faldorn on N1.

[FM Xzar]

Does anyone else think Kagain is scummy???????
I don't really.

[FM Garrick]

Well if FM Faldorn and FM Xzar claim that FM Faldorn is not a Harper then I will vote FM Faldorn.

FM Faldorn

[FM Garrick]

FM Garrick still wants to side with the Bhaalspawn but if FM Faldorn was a Harper FM Garrick would want to kill a cultist first.

[FM Ajantis]

I got Faldorn and Garrick as Cult. I wonder who is the final one, I'll leave if for tomorrow...

As Mazzy said... Ajantis is "dangerous". You left me alive for too long.

Hehuheuheuheu... losers...

[FM Valygar]

The only way I will willingly side with Montaron over the Harpers is if the Harpers are already dead. If there's any hope of the Harpers winning, I will support it. Also, survivors are terrible conversion targets because Shapeshift grants conversion immunity.

[FM Garrick]

By the way, FM Yoshimo should have posted by now. FM Yoshimo was the likely target of the Avenger.

FM Yoshimo is not here to insult FM Garrick today so instead FM Cernd and FM Ajantis decided to insult FM Garrick.

[FM Garrick]

The only way I will willingly side with Montaron over the Harpers is if the Harpers are already dead. If there's any hope of the Harpers winning, I will support it. Also, survivors are terrible conversion targets because Shapeshift grants conversion immunity.

Harpers are bad and they take numbers away from the town.

[FM Kivan]

How about lynching Khalid?

I've asked Cespenar when Thief becomes Lunatic. His answer: "Whenever the Inner Sanctum opens"

And since we know Khalid failed and Cespenar said before:

"Though the Inner Sanctum would open at some weird moment in-between night 6 and day 7, otherwise known as the start of day 7. This is also when night- and lynch immunities would be lost with an automatic opening."

So I think we are safe to assume that Khalid is either Shadow Thief or non-converted Lunatic. The only question is: should we trust him? I think we can do this. Confirmed Townies will abstain, we force others to vote and we have a good deal here.

FM Khalid

[FM Valygar]

Harpers are bad and they take numbers away from the town.

Harpers have no reason not to side with town, so they convert Explorers into pseudo town PRs (which is great not only for the PR part, but also for the claim checking aspect of it).

[FM Cernd]

How about lynching Khalid?
As long as all the non-confirmable claims vote him, I would be fine with it.

[FM Ajantis]

I'm confirmed so I won't be voting Khalid. My vote sticks with Faldorn until her head was smashed with a warhammer.

Away for the next 2 days. Won't be posting anymore.

[FM Faldorn]

0 People have guessed correctly why I say I shouldn't be lynched today, yet I'm willing to die.

Solve this Garrick!

[FM Faldorn]

Will there be any more role play form the hosts, since none has been seen for the past few days?

[FM Nalia]

The decision this time is entirely mine. If Valygar is the Cultist, then I have already won. But I will keep giving out the contracts to "suspicious" people. You can't stop me from doing that.

[FM Cernd]

The decision this time is entirely mine. If Valygar is the Cultist, then I have already won. But I will keep giving out the contracts to "suspicious" people. You can't stop me from doing that.
I can, actually.
FM Naila

[FM Cernd]

FM Nalia
I always get that name wrong.

[FM Nalia]

Oh yeah, since I've already posted, you should know this:

I am Branwen, the Avenger. Nalia must die as per my new win condition. Please vote down Nalia!

[FM Khalid]

Why would you want a neutral to die?

Also, clever move by Branwen, because then he controls where the contract goes. Expect Nalia to be controlled by Branwen every other day

[FM Valygar]

Why would you want a neutral to die?

Also, clever move by Branwen, because then he controls where the contract goes. Expect Nalia to be controlled by Branwen every other day

Actually, it just prevents her from selecting a client at all (same goes for Kivan).

[FM Khalid]

Actually, it just prevents her from selecting a client at all (same goes for Kivan).

Oh, he doesn't get to take over her day action then? (Or Kivan's)?

Well, I guess that's less useful than I thought. Especially since Nalia will probably contract cult, and if you are town that would be preferable. Now I'm wondering what your faction is...

[FM Kivan]

Hey Nalwen, do you have any information regarding your target's role? Or it's lw?

If Avenger possesses a Lunatic who will choose people to kill? Lunatic or Avenger?

This is my only concern regarding lynching Khalid. Ok, now it's time to catch up with your posts.

[FM Cernd]

FM Faldorn


Why would you want a neutral to die?
A neutral threatening with giving an extra kill to the Cult every night is anything but Neutral. Anyone helping the Cult will be dealt with as if they were part of the Cult. Those helping the Town will be rewarded. I made that pretty clear from the start.



The BH cannot be the target of the Avenger. Branwen will target whatever faction Valygar is in.

The BH cannot be converted, so there's no way Nalia is a Cultist, ergo, killing Nalia cannot be part of the victory condition of Branwen.

So... eiher Nalia isn't Branwen or Nalia was possesed to prevent her from handling those cotnracts to the Cult.

[FM Cernd]

btw, Kagain, either make a solid case against me or give a better use to that vote.

If you have proof that I'm a Cultist, you should expose me. Otherway, you're just being retarded and useless.

[FM Korgan]

Lol, no idea who to vote. Gut tells me Coran or Yoshimo over Faldorn.
Yoshimo has a under the radar playstyle, no claims no clues no good thoughts most of the time.
Coran is useless.
Faldorn trolled from day 1 until now.

Ajantis hasn't claimed anything so far.
The "Cleric" seems to never heal anyone to proof his role.
Xzar obviously recruited Kagain.

So what is left?

Any night actions we are still missing?

[FM Khalid]

FM Faldorn


A neutral threatening with giving an extra kill to the Cult every night is anything but Neutral. Anyone helping the Cult will be dealt with as if they were part of the Cult. Those helping the Town will be rewarded. I made that pretty clear from the start.



The BH cannot be the target of the Avenger. Branwen will target whatever faction Valygar is in.

The BH cannot be converted, so there's no way Nalia is a Cultist, ergo, killing Nalia cannot be part of the victory condition of Branwen.

So... eiher Nalia isn't Branwen or Nalia was possesed to prevent her from handling those cotnracts to the Cult.

Hmm fair enough. I was confused because if Valygar was an Adventurer, Branwen would be against Adventurers, and thus I would think he would encourage more opportunities for Nalia to give contracts to cultists



Hey Nalwen, do you have any information regarding your target's role? Or it's lw?

If Avenger possesses a Lunatic who will choose people to kill? Lunatic or Avenger?

This is my only concern regarding lynching Khalid. Ok, now it's time to catch up with your posts.

I already asked through PM and was told he only controls during the day, and I get to choose the kills (and still get my win), but I'm fine with waiting for a public answer haha.

I'm fine with sheeping after Cernd for now, Faldorn you would be wise to vote me in return if you are truly an Adventurer.

FM Faldorn

[FM Yoshimo]

Branwen checking in.... give me a moment to read over today's pages and I will drop what's I think has been going on.

[FM Faldorn]

People are not using brain. This is why mis lynches happened.

Still don't trust Ajantis after trying to blackmail the town.

And Cernd just has his Richard attitude. He didn't reveal his clue as I remember. It would be nice to know what Jan was.

[FM Yoshimo]

Ok, internet lagging and just got home from work so really tired, I'll post some things then respond to questions later on!

1: My murderers were Cult of Bhaal. Valygar confirmed he killed me. Valygar is cult.

I don't care if he's lynched today, although I would prefer it to validate my claim. Duly noted Ajantis!!! You first voted Valygar then my first suspicion Faldorn! BTW, isn't he the one that said I was powerless the night before I died? Maybe I am wrong....

However, if he is not lynched, this will be the last day I come out as myself. I will try to deal with the cult quietly. I can still vote, and I will be possessing the most scummy (more chance for me to have a warm body to jump into the next day). That said... I am in Yoshimo's body....

2: 2 Bhaalspawn dead! Hey, no hard feelings. Once I got the bead on Shar-teel, I knew the cult or bhaalspawn would be taking me out. I was hoping a CULTED Bhaalspawn would kill me, since he would try to kill me regardless of whether I helped cult or not and me pretending to be a bhaalspawn. It is doubtful valygar will pop anything special, but who knows? Maybe it can answer even more questions.

3: Montaron.... do the right thing buddy! I think you should just be quiet about your alignment right now. I know you can win with or without either faction, and I know siding would make you a target right now, but all in all, I think you have every opportunity to win this thing with town. Maybe even some coordination with Yesclick if he is a cleric to keep you alive and go towncore...

4:Wish Aerie hadnt died... she can track me and keep people from counter-claiming possession. Once you guys are comfortable that I am on your side, I'll agree to use my power in some form of code in order to be able to tell it really is me.

5:I'll have to post about this other thing later... but if you haven't already I would A: stop listening to Valygar's posts B:Re-read everything he tried to derail and refocus lynches and scum reads from yesterday. There was a couple of people that seemed to try and help him out.

6:Khalid... Would love to see a Lunatic out of the equation right now lynch-wise, but how do we know your not culted? The death note clearly connects you with Prophet, in which he tried to persuade your vote to be as you desire. The cult is all about manipulation, and I am sure they still have enough persuasion in the day chat to propose a winning kill for your death. Perhaps there is a way to use the kill systematically if it gave us an edge on the next day of voting? Still, pandora's box. I don't like surprises.

That's all for now! Ill be back on later to answer questions.

[FM Khalid]

As for being a culted Lunatic, it's not possible as I become Lunatic upon Sanctum opening, and cult loses conversion powers upon Sanctum opening.

As far as who I would kill is concerned, I would probably target Tiax (Druid claim, with warning so he vests) and 1 other depending on whomever is preferred. Or the 2 that are preferred.

Assuming Faldorn and Valygar are cult, we will probably have only 1 cultist left to deal with.

I'm also fine waiting til the cult is dead if it's not useful to lynch me at any given day and then getting my win while Montaron and the Harpers fight it out (keep in mind if Harpers keep recruiting town, it'll make it difficult for Montaron to win while also leeching wins from living town members)

Lol at Valygar for wasting his contract, it seems Nalia has her win and just has to survive now and Branwen can actively fuck with the cult ^^

[FM Khalid]

Assuming Branwen is Yoshimo and Valygar was actually cult, Branwen could lie about that...

Is a Bounty Hunter informed when they've completed a contract for town and cult, or when they complete either of the two?

Nalia could confirm this

[FM Yoshimo]

Assuming Branwen is Yoshimo and Valygar was actually cult, Branwen could lie about that...

Is a Bounty Hunter informed when they've completed a contract for town and cult, or when they complete either of the two?

Nalia could confirm this

I saw Nalia in a tavern yesterday while I was roaming and walking through walls. More than drunk and stumbling all over herself. I am not sure she will be available today, but I can make her available for you tomorrow if you ask!

[FM Yoshimo]

FM Yoshimo

Checking to see what this does...

[FM Kagain]

I'm confirmed so I won't be voting Khalid. My vote sticks with Faldorn until her head was smashed with a warhammer.

Away for the next 2 days. Won't be posting anymore.

plz explain how you are "confirmed"




btw, Kagain, either make a solid case against me or give a better use to that vote.

If you have proof that I'm a Cultist, you should expose me. Otherway, you're just being retarded and useless.

i just got up but if you like...


Claimed Mortician, yet has no result on nights 1-7 (except one where you has mazzy's "mazzy will")
Never cleared the ??? player to be an assassin
Was somehow able to FOS every scum but now suddenly decided to "random lynch" every explorer claim
Makes up a fake mazzy last will and does not see that aerie has also visited mazzy and forgot that, claims it was "host error" and host deleted the post saying it
Think Xzar is an "semi-confirmed" role
claims to be "confirmed" yes still is lacking results
claims to be "witched" but does not explain why he would be witched of all people
Mazzys last will has never show up in beginning of day

Last will will not be posted if it’s stolen the same night a player dies. On following nights it will show again.
but that sense that would mean it was impossible for you to get a last will
has been twisting peoples words



claims cleric
says there must be 2 for balance due to setup, yet there is confirmed cleric so makes no sense to have 1 confirmed in setup with one hidden
claims I'm scummy but does not give reasoning on why
has been twisting peoples words saying that they are prophet because they do not fear harper check
also has a "host error" on feedback when targeting mort
says he did not know about immune when role cards from pms have obviously stated all the specials
IS STILL ALIVE?!?!? Why would cult not target a cleric claim first?
Why was cleric not witched?
Does not explain who was targeted last night
Blindly sheeps with cernard
thought shar was "town" still to the very end

Theres my cases against them. Now explain to me how they are not cults or very scummy right now

[FM Yoshimo]

Guess it only worked as tiebreakers in the puzzle chat, oh well.

FM Valygar

[FM Kivan]

Still catching up, but before I forget:

code: tucfsjigfhiusirhrbpzbevjhfulafxtkv
key: ttaxanandaerietheyaskedforthis
phrase: abciswitchedkeyandphrasetobesneaky

I'm so playful, huh?

Did Cernd posted his feedback already? I'm curious why Prophet would target Cernd instead of Yeslick. Especially when they have to send Graverobber to do the killing. My guess: Yeslick is cult.

[FM Kagain]

fm Valygar

also instead of random lynching kihad the explorer, lets lynch Valygar to confirm the cult , you are only trying to twist words and manipulate everyone

[FM Cernd]

FM Valygar

1: Would confirm Branwen siding with Town.
2: If Branwen speaks the truth, that would mean Nalia already won and has no need to keep giving contracts away.
3: Yesterday, I explained why I think that no Town player would target Branwen, and I like it when evidence backs up my theories.

[FM Kagain]

Still catching up, but before I forget:

code: tucfsjigfhiusirhrbpzbevjhfulafxtkv
key: ttaxanandaerietheyaskedforthis
phrase: abciswitchedkeyandphrasetobesneaky

I'm so playful, huh?

Did Cernd posted his feedback already? I'm curious why Prophet would target Cernd instead of Yeslick. Especially when they have to send Graverobber to do the killing. My guess: Yeslick is cult.

Exactly my thoughts, my suggestion is yeslick or valygar right now, Kivan you should heartwaden xzar and the "druid" and have druid shapeshift as a protection for him so he could not be killed if they somehow are able to kill

[FM Cernd]

Kagain, you're oficially retarded.

[FM Kagain]

FM Valygar

1: Would confirm Branwen siding with Town.
2: If Branwen speaks the truth, that would mean Nalia already won and has no need to keep giving contracts away.
3: Yesterday, I explained why I think that no Town player would target Branwen, and I like it when evidence backs up my theories.

More evidence now, decides to randomly switch votes when you were bent on lynching fadoron and now decide to switch, ya, unless you decide to give all your feedback you are most likely the prophet or a obvious cult right now, you were altho threatening to game throw if converted, I doubt you would of done that even if you were, i think you are prophet or starting cult

[FM Kagain]

Kagain, you're oficially retarded.

elaborate on that plz, explain to me how i am. explain to me how you only have mazzys "last will" yet none others, explain to me where your night 1-7 (minus your mazzy one) is

[FM Cernd]

Yes, I'm the Prophet.
I already told you that you're a genious and deserve the MVP award.

Now kindly shut the fuck up and stop wasting my time.

[FM Kagain]

Yes, I'm the Prophet.
I already told you that you're a genious and deserve the MVP award.

Now kindly shut the fuck up and stop wasting my time.

Explain to me why i should, explain to me how anyone else is not scummy, explain to me why i should shut the fuck up, explain to me why anyone should listen to you, explain to me all of that first

FM Cernd

i say all the explorer claims (minus a few) a 100% true and you are manipulating town now, instead of lynch every random explorer claim we should lynch yeslick the "cleric" or carnd the "mortician"

[FM Kagain]

I refuse to "randomly" lynch any explorer claims unless we can prove without a doubt they are scum right now, as of right now the tops scums are yeslick and cernd

[FM Cernd]

I have nothing to explain to you, since your arguments are void and your whole accusation is based on stupidity.

[FM Kagain]

I have nothing to explain to you, since your arguments are void and your whole accusation is based on stupidity.

Yes you claimed mortician and you are missing a lot of results right now. You will have to discredit me for me to even remotely believe you right now. I am just hoping kivan also sees how you are cult right now. he seems to figure out yeslick is so he will probably vote him. You have everything to explain to me and the town

[FM Cernd]

lol. Good luck.

[FM Faldorn]

Cernd's defence is insulting. To defend yourself just insult them!

[FM Nalia]

Hey, my fake out was successful after all! I'll retract my claim from being possessed by Branwen.

I was completely fine with Valygar being my client, even though he was picked because of my own dumb "puzzle". I will continue to give out the contracts, however, I will not make contract with Cult any longer. They had their chance to win, but they wasted it long ago - they lost 6 men and the Avenger is now haunting then. Anyone who is not suspected as Cult can be my next client tonight. But once again, the identity of that person will be kept in secret, and I will not use any death notes to mark client's targets.

Is everyone fine with my decision?

[FM Kagain]

lol. Good luck.

i have stated my case and you only hurl insults at me you use no logic to try to discredit it. Until you use logic to discredit it i recommend we ignore you and either lynch you.

as of now the only confirmed is kivan

[FM Kagain]

Hey, my fake out was successful after all! I'll retract my claim from being possessed by Branwen.

I was completely fine with Valygar being my client, even though he was picked because of my own dumb "puzzle". I will continue to give out the contracts, however, I will not make contract with Cult any longer. They had their chance to win, but they wasted it long ago - they lost 6 men and the Avenger is now haunting then. Anyone who is not suspected as Cult can be my next client tonight. But once again, the identity of that person will be kept in secret, and I will not use any death notes to mark client's targets.

Is everyone fine with my decision?

Fine, you should clien xzar the harper again

[FM Cernd]

Yes, Kagain. Lynch me. :blink1:


Hey, my fake out was successful after all! I'll retract my claim from being possessed by Branwen.

I was completely fine with Valygar being my client, even though he was picked because of my own dumb "puzzle". I will continue to give out the contracts, however, I will not make contract with Cult any longer. They had their chance to win, but they wasted it long ago - they lost 6 men and the Avenger is now haunting then. Anyone who is not suspected as Cult can be my next client tonight. But once again, the identity of that person will be kept in secret, and I will not use any death notes to mark client's targets.

Is everyone fine with my decision?

No. The Prophet can manipulate you to use you as an extra kill.
You and double kills from Heartwarden chat are the only ways for the Cult to have a remote chance to win this. If you're going to give contracts away, at least wait for the Prophet to die, so you can't be manipulated into killing non intended targets.

[FM Cernd]

Yes, Kagain. Lynch me. :blink1:


Hey, my fake out was successful after all! I'll retract my claim from being possessed by Branwen.

I was completely fine with Valygar being my client, even though he was picked because of my own dumb "puzzle". I will continue to give out the contracts, however, I will not make contract with Cult any longer. They had their chance to win, but they wasted it long ago - they lost 6 men and the Avenger is now haunting then. Anyone who is not suspected as Cult can be my next client tonight. But once again, the identity of that person will be kept in secret, and I will not use any death notes to mark client's targets.

Is everyone fine with my decision?

No. The Prophet can manipulate you to use you as an extra kill.
You and double kills from Heartwarden chat are the only ways for the Cult to have a remote chance to win this. If you're going to give contracts away, at least wait for the Prophet to die, so you can't be manipulated into killing non intended targets.

[FM Cernd]

Double post ftw.

[FM Xzar]

Fine, you should clien xzar the harper again

I'd actually use it this time. Firepower > investigation to deal with the prophet.

[FM Kagain]

Yes, Kagain. Lynch me. :blink1:



No. The Prophet can manipulate you to use you as an extra kill.
You and double kills from Heartwarden chat are the only ways for the Cult to have a remote chance to win this. If you're going to give contracts away, at least wait for the Prophet to die, so you can't be manipulated into killing non intended targets.

Why didn't prophet manipulate her in the first place?

[FM Kagain]

I'd actually use it this time. Firepower > investigation to deal with the prophet.

i wonder.

if a person in hearwadener chat gets do both people get the client?

[FM Kagain]

i wonder.

if a person in hearwadener chat gets do both people get the client?

also if a harper is heartwaden does other player have immunity?

[FM Kagain]

Yes, Kagain. Lynch me. :blink1:



No. The Prophet can manipulate you to use you as an extra kill.
You and double kills from Heartwarden chat are the only ways for the Cult to have a remote chance to win this. If you're going to give contracts away, at least wait for the Prophet to die, so you can't be manipulated into killing non intended targets.

Yes then lets lynch you so you cant manipulate

[FM Kagain]

That bandwidth....

anyway has anyone else noticed so far that cernard has only insulted me and has not in any way or form tried to discredit my evidence again him?

Also do you note how he was able to FOS every scum but now wants to "randomly" lynch explorers?

Did anyone else notice how fast the train went up on FM Faldorn?

I think i have made my point clear on this that he is scum who was bussing

[FM Tiax]

FM Khalid

Have him attack me and who ever you think is most likely prophet. That way we can finally confirm I'm druid. You'll confirm me and kill the person you were going to lynch with a single lynch.

[FM Tiax]

That was a host error or something.
Is your role Prophet?

I have a very hard time imagining the prophet forgoing a conversion to use a bounty hunter kill. Especially because then the bounty hunter wouldn't need to give any future contracts to the cult if he had targeted a town.

That isn't to say he can't be cult. There is quite possibly a cult role alive that didn't have useful night action at the time.

[FM Kagain]

FM Khalid

Have him attack me and who ever you think is most likely prophet. That way we can finally confirm I'm druid. You'll confirm me and kill the person you were going to lynch with a single lynch.

That would require cernard and/or yeslick to vote him

i will be for this if they agree to it and one of them gets targeted. i also think you should go into hearwarner with xzar and vest so he cant die to anything. i do say kivan should abstain from the vote as well

[FM Kagain]

I believe the druid claim overall and should be spared from jester, i think we should test cernard the acclaimed "mortician" and yeslick the acclaimed "cleric" to the jester

[FM Korgan]

Still waiting on Montaron. Let's get all night actions together before we do something please. There is plenty of time to do anything and we need the full picture to make a good decision.

I wonder what Valygar will say about his membership in the cult of bhaal. I could imagine that he is cult.

[FM Coran]

Mafia was down :S

But I'm here now.

FM Valygar

[FM Kagain]

Mafia was down :S

But I'm here now.

FM Valygar

Coran, do you believe the cleric and mortician claims right now?

[FM Montaron]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/9ec6e89622a984dc8be2681da820cc8b/tumblr_mg7dd3s4ha1rfvb9ro1_500.gif

[FM Montaron]

That sad feel when you had Aerie as a heal target and then switch off to Yoshimo.

But you would've saved the Evoker.

The Great Montaron thanks you.

[FM Faldorn]

Welcome back last BhaalSpawn!

[FM Montaron]

Also, I realized something interesting yesterday.

Even if the Prophet manipulates my douses during the night; As the Necromancer, I actually have two night actions.
I can CURSE someone, and UNCURSE someone.

Uncursing comes before the ignite (With the other kills in the OoO.)
Prophet will only control my main action (Cursing people), he cannot control my uncurse.

So if I get misdirected into cursing someone by the Prophet, the next night, I can just uncurse said person and curse someone else.

The Cult cannot control my night actions.

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[FM Kagain]

Also, I realized something interesting yesterday.

Even if the Prophet manipulates my douses during the night; As the Necromancer, I actually have two night actions.
I can CURSE someone, and UNCURSE someone.

Uncursing comes before the ignite (With the other kills in the OoO.)
Prophet will only control my main action (Cursing people), he cannot control my uncurse.

So if I get misdirected into cursing someone by the Prophet, the next night, I can just uncurse said person and curse someone else.

The Cult cannot control my night actions.

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so who did you douse?

[FM Kivan]

Goddammit, forum was down again.

Kagain, my ability only makes other person targeted. He or she doesn't gain any kind of immunity. So if I join Druid and Explorer, Druid uses vest and gets attacked, then only Explorer dies.

Cernd, I want you to give us your feedback. If you want to hide some information because whatever you can do this, but I want to know who did you targeted each night and what did you find out.

[FM Montaron]

so who did you douse?

Faldykins.
And I wasn't manipulated yesterday.

I gave him specific instructions as to what to do in my curse message, but he has yet to respect them.

[FM Faldorn]

I had to wait untill you asked me.

[FM Montaron]

I was hesitating between him and Dynaheir.

I flipped a coin.

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[FM Montaron]

I had to wait untill you asked me.

Oooh. He read it.

Do it now~

[FM Coran]

Coran, do you believe the cleric and mortician claims right now?

The cleric claim, not fully. Yeslick was never confirmed, not any successful healing so far.

The mortician one, yeah why not.


Still, I prefer lynching a non-prophet scum over a potential real cleric...

[FM Montaron]

The cleric claim, not fully. Yeslick was never confirmed, not any successful healing so far.

The mortician one, yeah why not.


Still, I prefer lynching a non-prophet scum over a potential real cleric...

You're just saying that because you're on the list of ''Potential Prophet''

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[FM Faldorn]

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Is this good enough?

Shall I post the whole feedback mesage?

[FM Faldorn]

And that is why I shouldn't be lynched today.

[FM Faldorn]

Tried to hint, but people didn't use brain. Just avoided using the Brain.

I waited for long time for you to ask me!

[FM Kagain]

The cleric claim, not fully. Yeslick was never confirmed, not any successful healing so far.

The mortician one, yeah why not.


Still, I prefer lynching a non-prophet scum over a potential real cleric...

So you think there were 2 clerics in this setup? explain to me how you believe mortician right now? he has no leads on anything.

Hey kivan, we should join xzar and mort in the chats so cult would be less likely to kill them or put the "cleric" in there because heal would undo itself on both.

[FM Montaron]

Tried to hint, but people didn't use brain. Just avoided using the Brain.

I waited for long time for you to ask me!

Yeah, okay.

Faldykins is cursed.

Isn't that neat? We can focus on someone else now!

Thanks for your cooperation, hunbun.

[FM Kagain]

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Is this good enough?

Shall I post the whole feedback mesage?

if mort will allow it. so now we know a lynch on you would most likely be a waste.

kivan if the mortician does not give us info would you be up for lynching him, he has nothing to hide now because he wants a mass role claim? what about the "cleric"

[FM Kagain]

Yeah, okay.

Faldykins is cursed.

Isn't that neat? We can focus on someone else now!

Thanks for your cooperation, hunbun.

What you think about yeslick and cernard claims?

[FM Kivan]

Kagain, why should I put together two non-Adventurers who wants to kill each other? I am a Matchmaker, Heartwarden, Messenger of Love. I'm only joining those who deserve it, mr. 2nd Harper.

Can someone explain me what's going on with Faldorn?

[FM Coran]

[QUOTE=FM Montaron;380770]You're just saying that because you're on the list of ''Potential Prophet''


Nah, if someone is 85% sure of being the Prophet or more, I'm switching train right away.

I just don't want to myslynch...


@Kagain - No I don't beleive there's 2 cleric in the setup.

Yeslick tried to stay alive using the student wifom claim I guess.


But my vote stay on Valygar right now. I had him as a suspect for a long time and I want him gone :)

[FM Kivan]

Yeslick should heal me. I have no idea why did he chose Yoshimo. if he is Town.

My ability sucks nowadays - Cult will know who is joined and they can act accordingly.

[FM Montaron]

What you think about yeslick and cernard claims?

Yeslick still needs to prove himself. Suspicion levels are rising.
Cernd's an overaggressive idiot. I never really paid attention to him. His Mortician claim feels legit though, with the reveal for Aerie (Whole clusterfuck caused by an host mistake.) Plausible; but obviously it may all have been fabricated.

[FM Coran]

Yeslick should heal me. I have no idea why did he chose Yoshimo. if he is Town.

My ability sucks nowadays - Cult will know who is joined and they can act accordingly.

Well, If I was cleric, I wouldn't have healed you...

Cult won't kill you since they need you to kill as many people as possible to have a chance to win.

[FM Kagain]

Kagain, why should I put together two non-Adventurers who wants to kill each other? I am a Matchmaker, Heartwarden, Messenger of Love. I'm only joining those who deserve it, mr. 2nd Harper.

Can someone explain me what's going on with Faldorn?

faldorn is doused by the arson, the is a big reason why, think about it, i will say this

YES I AM ACLAMEST HARPER

has anyone noticed how they yeslick and cernard to discredit me as well, why would towns try to discredit harpers? i was hoping to keep it a secret but oh well. Kivan the reason i would like him in there is because the gun has yet to be handed out. we could also use it to kill of 2 possible cults, have you read my wall of text on why they are scums? they should vote up the jester and we put one of them alone with an explorer (i'm considering anja) and have jester target one of them. I am willing to give out a gun to someone only if they are willing to use it for us towns

[FM Faldorn]

So my life is owned by FM Montaron. And he is the one who decides if I die or live.

I am Explorer, Not Prophet.

So, I personally hope he douses other people.

[FM Montaron]

Yeslick should heal me. I have no idea why did he chose Yoshimo. if he is Town.

My ability sucks nowadays - Cult will know who is joined and they can act accordingly.

Well.
You got Quayle killed.
You took Khalid's auto-vest.
You got Xan killed (Yay! Loveyoulongtime.)

But you also let me have a nice chat with Aerie.


Still, joining two scums together might be beneficial, not only for the curses, but also possibly for the Bounty Hunter kills.

[FM Kagain]

Yeslick should heal me. I have no idea why did he chose Yoshimo. if he is Town.

My ability sucks nowadays - Cult will know who is joined and they can act accordingly.

Well we could put only neutrals in there so they have to go with solo kills. Mort i offer a truce for now. The gun has yet to be passed and would like you to help us get cults. if we can get cults down to 0 we can give others wins and have town decide who wins

[FM Montaron]

YES I AM ACLAMEST HARPER


What's Aclamest?

[FM Kagain]

Another reason why i wan xzar is becasue i asked about passing guns out to heartwarner ppl. it would go to both so i could give a gun to xzar and he can shoot

[FM Kivan]

Kagain, I don't think Jester will work that way with me. I think it's more like Necromancer - if only one person in my chat is doused, the second won't be. Better ask though.

If Lunatic decides to kill one person in the Heartwarden's chat will second person be killed as well?

[FM Montaron]

Well we could put only neutrals in there so they have to go with solo kills. Mort i offer a truce for now. The gun has yet to be passed and would like you to help us get cults. if we can get cults down to 0 we can give others wins and have town decide who wins

I honestly never intended to target the Harpers for now, honestly.

You guys know that I can take care of the Cultists for you (Let's be honest; they are a much bigger threat to you/the town than I am to you/the town)
So I always imagined that things would be taken care of at the end of the game, if both myself and the Harpers managed to survive until then.

Guts always told me that I'll probably end up taking a bullet from one of your guns, but we shall see. I've been clean towards the Town so far.

[FM Kagain]

What's Alchemist?

fixed. mort im sorry i could not stay with you.

Here my thoughts on whos cults

cernad=prophet because mazzy's last will was forged and arie visited mazzy and there was no host error

yeslick=claims "cleric" yet cleric one was already lynched so why would host put a second hidden one when there is confirmed one

ajans= acted town leader and claims explorer yes says hes somehow "confirmed"

kivan if you would like to show me how others are not probable scums/cults i will