Day 7: The opening

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FM Keldorn and FM Branwen were found dead today.

FM Keldorn left a last will

N1: Quayle
N2: Tiax
N3: Yeslick
N4: Jan
N5: Jaheira

I think Montaron fake claimed and there is no Paragon.
Good chance that Montaron is cult.

Also watch out for Branwen, Korgan, Yoshimo.

FM Branwen left a Last Will

I look at you all see the love there that's sleeping
While my guitar gently weeps
I look at the floor and I see it needs sweeping
Still my guitar gently weeps

I don't know why nobody told you
How to unfold your love
I don't know how someone controlled you
They bought and sold you

I look at the world and I notice it's turning
While my guitar gently weeps
With every mistake we must surely be learning
Still my guitar gently weeps

I don't know how you were diverted
You were perverted too
I don't know how you were inverted
No one alerted you

I look at you all see the love there that's sleeping
While my guitar gently weeps
I look at you all
Still my guitar gently weeps

11
With the opening of the inner sanctum hammer votes now end days.

- Living Players -
FM Aerie
FM Ajantis
FM Cernd
FM Coran
FM Dynaheir
FM Faldorn
FM Garrick
FM Haer-Dalis
FM Jan
FM Kagain
FM Khalid
FM Kivan
FM Korgan
FM Montaron
FM Nalia
FM Tiax
FM Valygar
FM Xan
FM Xzar
FM Yeslick
FM Yoshimo

- The Deceased -
FM Edwin the Cleric - beaten to death by enraged adventurers
FM Skie the Enchanter - killed by a trap
FM Eldoth the Explorer - killed by a trap
FM Viconia the Explorer - burnt to a crisp by enraged adventurers
FM Minsc the Herald - died by magic
FM Mazzy the Assassin - died by weapons
FM Quayle the Illusionist - died by magic
FM Safana the ??? - died by weapons
FM Sarevok the Arcane Trickster - died by magic
FM Anomen the Explorer - beheaded by enraged adventurers
FM Imoen the Diviner killed by a trap.
FM Alora the Harper Guardian - struck down by Bhaal's wrath.
FM Shar-Teel the Quartermaster - hanged by enraged adventurers.
FM Jaheira the Explorer - stoned by enraged adventurers
FM Branwen the Avenger - died by weapons
FM Keldorn the Bard - killed by a trap

Day 7 will end at this time: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=0.30+gmt+september+17th+2013

[FM Faldorn]

Yey!

[FM Aerie]

I hope valygar is a neutral or a scum.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Avenger dead oh great : /, but Keldorn was a converted Bard or he was the quartermastered Bard anyways he was cult

[FM Faldorn]

Avenger dead oh great : /, but Keldorn was a converted Bard or he was the quartermastered Bard anyways he was cult

Really?

[FM Kivan]

LOGIC PREVAILED!:D

[FM Aerie]

Im assuming that khalid failed to solve the puzzle then.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Really?
Read shar's lw I see Keldorn's last will now, but Shar's lw from day 5 says she "apparently" got another cult changed.

[FM Faldorn]

How was inner sanctum opened...

[FM Kivan]

Well, I kinda hope Valygar is not an Adventurer. Anyway, we are doing fine right now.

Khalid, did you succeed?

Montaron, what did you do?

[FM Aerie]

Keldorn was probably converted Night 5 according to his last will

[FM Yoshimo]

I was role-blocked.

[FM Aerie]

But if keldorn was converted on night 5 then xzar must be lying about resisting a convert.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

But if keldorn was converted on night 5 then xzar must be lying about resisting a convert.

That is what I am wondering atm.

[FM Yoshimo]

Everybody should be using disguiser checks now so we know who the Avenger possesses. Also, I'm confused by Keldorn's last will. Doesn't he realise the graveyard shows him as Cult? Did he write that last-will before being converted? I don't get it.

[FM Kivan]

But if keldorn was converted on night 5 then xzar must be lying about resisting a convert.

You really think player like Keldorn wouldn't modify his LW?

[FM Kivan]

My code from yesternight, I'm ready to decode it anytime: aldsvrvkyeenqakibwvcxxcxbvrjpb.

So...

Xan is a Bhaalspawn.

Aerie, who did you check?

Cern, who did you check?

Montaron did you use your burn?

Nalia, did you win?

[FM Aerie]

I would like yeslick to claim who he visited first.

[FM Yoshimo]

Can somebody please explain to me why Keldorn flipped a Cultist, yet is trying to convince us other people are Cult? Was his will written prior to conversion? If so, was he converted Night 5? If he posted his clue on Day 3, and you guys called it a false clue, then did we just get lucky sending him to the puzzle last night?

I am confused.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Can somebody please explain to me why Keldorn flipped a Cultist, yet is trying to convince us other people are Cult? Was his will written prior to conversion? If so, was he converted Night 5? If he posted his clue on Day 3, and you guys called it a false clue, then did we just get lucky sending him to the puzzle last night?

I am confused.

There has to be a reason he didn't claim Bard to try and save himself from getting killed last night. I don't think he got converted last night.

[FM Aerie]

I think keldorn just forgot to update his last will, actually.

[FM Coran]

I guess Montaron did not burn since no one knew if Khalid was really the thief and if he had all the clue.
Too bad because the Inner Santum was oppened :S

[FM Aerie]

I guess Montaron did not burn since no one knew if Khalid was really the thief and if he had all the clue.
Too bad because the Inner Santum was oppened :S

It opens automaticly after night 6. Khalid obviously failed the puzzle.

[FM Yoshimo]

I think keldorn just forgot to update his last will, actually.

That still doesn't explain anything.

[FM Coran]

It opens automaticly after night 6. Khalid obviously failed the puzzle.

Ah nevermind. Brain fart ^^'

[FM Kivan]

Guys, Keldorn is not a noob, his last will was probably meant to look like he forgot to change his lw. The main reason for sending him to the trap was his clues, which contadicted Cernd in very serious way. That's why I believe he was converted before n3.

Or riddle sucks and we just got lucky:D

We can't really trust Khalid today if we don't know how IS was opened. That's why I'm going to wait for Montaron.

[FM Aerie]

Im pretty sure that montaron or Jan would be dead if the puzzle was solved.

[FM Aerie]

I hope the prophet sent a assassin to kill instead of converting.

[FM Xzar]

Yoo were feedback PMs sent out already? I ain't got nuthin.

[FM Jan]

Someone attacked me but I survived
Does this mean...

[FM Ferengi]

PMs were sent.

[FM Jan]

Khalid, were you attacked?

[FM Jan]

If khalid wasn't attacked, then its safe to assume that cult tried to kill me

[FM Jan]

Hmm, can cult attack last night though? I wouldve disguised montaron if the sanctum was opened

[FM Xzar]

PMs were sent.

But I should've gotten something regardless of the outcome..

Except if there's a situation in which I would receive nothing by being drugged to get nothing or something like that. Is that even possible here? Halp. QQ

[FM Yoshimo]

Montaron probably tried to burn you?

[FM Jan]

Montaron probably tried to burn you?

This is why I am asking Khalid

[FM Kagain]

But I should've gotten something regardless of the outcome..

Except if there's a situation in which I would receive nothing by being drugged to get nothing or something like that. Is that even possible here? Halp. QQ

I wouldn't worry about it right now. ;)

[FM Yoshimo]

For anybody who didn't notice, Shar-teel's last will has been newly posted at the end of Day 5.

[FM Jan]

For anybody who didn't notice, Shar-teel's last will has been newly posted at the end of Day 5.

I've noticed, it annoy me when I see something bolded when everything else isnt

[FM Kagain]

Well I'm going to get the ball rolling,

FM Coran

this person keeps saying hes busy to give reads and last night he said he had 2-3 hrs and 5 minutes later says hes busy again

[FM Faldorn]

Did i Miss something? Very confusing Dead players.

Well... Erm FM Jaheira

[FM Ajantis]

-FM Valygar

Need to know Branwen's target...

[FM Faldorn]

-FM Valygar

Need to know Branwen's target...

Yes, Lets lynch someone so we know who Avenger wants to make lose!

[FM Coran]

Well I'm going to get the ball rolling,

FM Coran

this person keeps saying hes busy to give reads and last night he said he had 2-3 hrs and 5 minutes later says hes busy again

Aw come on.... someone can't be busy in life without being suspicious?


Personally, I'll wait until Montaron show up before targeting someone like Khalid or Jan.


I'm still suspicious about Zxar though...

@Nalia - Did you win?

[FM Faldorn]

I say lynch Jaheira for apparently not being dead.

[FM Ajantis]

I don't understand why Valygar would kill Branwen who caught Shar-Teel...

[FM Kagain]

Ok on a side note i did some calculations and right now cults have a hypothetical max of 5-6 cults right now.

5 are confirmed dead (jan claims disguise was an assassin so 6 there)

and if a hypothetical convert was successful each night, that means they have 5-6

we have 2 neutrals, a dead avenger and the hitman.

did i miss anything?

[FM Ajantis]

Ask Kivan who were heartwarded.

[FM Coran]

-FM Valygar

Need to know Branwen's target...

If you actually want to put pressure on someone, you'll have to make the vote legit first... just saying. ;)

[FM Kagain]

Aw come on.... someone can't be busy in life without being suspicious?


Personally, I'll wait until Montaron show up before targeting someone like Khalid or Jan.


I'm still suspicious about Zxar though...

@Nalia - Did you win?

Not really if you are busy you should've gotten a replacement. I have to go. Don't let scums dictate the trains like they did before.

Also i would like to hear from FM Cernd, he had something rather interesting to say last night, as well as our ranger, what is your feedbacks?

[FM Kagain]

I will be watching though ;)

[FM Faldorn]

Ok on a side note i did some calculations and right now cults have a hypothetical max of 5-6 cults right now.

5 are confirmed dead (jan claims disguise was an assassin so 6 there)

and if a hypothetical convert was successful each night, that means they have 5-6

we have 2 neutrals, a dead avenger and the hitman.

did i miss anything?

Yes. there are 5 neutrals

[FM Yeslick]

Hey umm im pretty fucking drunk right now but doesnt keldorn's lw clear me from being cult? can i go back to rping Tony Stonem?
he was hit by a buss season 2

[FM Ajantis]

The Prophet
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Doppelganger) - Safana
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Necromancer) - Montaron
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Half-Dragon)
Hidden Neutral (Bounty Hunter) - Nalia
Hidden Neutral (Thief/Lunatic) - Khalid
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Harper (???) - Xzar
Duke
Hidden Adventurer (Ranger) - Aerie
Hidden Adventurer (Heartwarder/Beguiler) - Kivan
Hidden Adventurer (Ritualist/Graverobber) - Cernd
Hidden Adventurer
Hidden Adventurer
Hidden Adventurer
Hidden Adventurer
Hidden Adventurer
Explorer
Explorer
Explorer

FM Ajantis
FM Coran
FM Dynaheir
FM Faldorn
FM Garrick
FM Haer-Dalis
FM Kagain
FM Korgan
FM Tiax
FM Valygar
FM Xan
FM Yeslick
FM Yoshimo

Hidden Cultist (Quartermaster) - Shar-Teel
Assassin (Arcane Trickter) - Sarevok
Assassin? - Jan
Assassin - Mazzy
Hidden Neutral (Avenger) - Branwen
Hidden Harper (Harper Guardian) - Alora
Cleric - Edwin
Hidden Adventurer (Herald) - Minsc
Hidden Adventurer (Bard)- Keldorn
Hidden Adventurer (Enchanter) - Skie
Hidden Adventurer (Diviner) - Imoen
Hidden Adventurer (Illusionist) - Quayle
Explorer - Eldoth
Explorer - Viconia
Explorer - Anomen
Explorer - Jaheira

[FM Faldorn]

I was bored. If I have missed anyone's claim please tell me.
Will this help you Kagain?



Setup
Player
Role/RoleClaim


The Prophet




Assassin




Hidden Bhaalspawn
FM Montaron
Necromancer


Hidden Bhaalspawn
FM Safana/FM Jan
Doppelganger


Hidden Bhaalspawn




Hidden Neutral
FM Branwen
Avenger


Hidden Neutral
FM Nalia
Bounty Hunter


Hidden Neutral
FM Faldorn?
Druid


Hidden Neutral




Hidden Neutral




Hidden Harper




Duke




Hidden Adventurer
FM Kivan
Heartwarder


Hidden Adventurer
FM Aerie
Ranger


Hidden Adventurer
FM Cernd
Ritualist


Hidden Adventurer




Hidden Adventurer




Hidden Adventurer




Hidden Adventurer




Hidden Adventurer




Explorer
seed



Explorer




Explorer




Hidden Cultist
FM Shar-Teel
Quartermaster


Assassin
FM Sarevok
Arcane Trickster


Assassin
FM Mazzy
Assassin


Hidden Harper
FM Alora
Harper Guardian


Cleric
FM Edwin
Cleric


Hidden Adventurer
FM Minsc
Herald


Hidden Adventurer
FM Keldorn
Bard


Hidden Adventurer
FM Skie
Enchanter


Hidden Adventurer
FM Quayle
Illusionist


Hidden Adventurer
FM Imoen
Diviner


Explorer
FM Viconia
Explorer


Explorer
FM Anomen
Explorer


Explorer
FM Eldoth
Explorer


Explorer
FM Jaheira
Explorer



Not Crossed off: FM Safana the ???

[FM Ajantis]

Assuming there cannot be copies of the same role, I'm confirmed not Avenger.

[FM Faldorn]

Mine is prettyier :D

[FM Yeslick]

Assuming there cannot be copies of the same role, I'm confirmed not Avenger.

there can be copies

[FM Yeslick]

montaron you fuck you didnt ignite?

[FM Ajantis]

there can be copies

It's because you're an Amnesiac.

[FM Kagain]

I was bored. If I have missed anyone's claim please tell me.
Will this help you Kagain?



Setup
Player
Role/RoleClaim


The Prophet




Assassin




Hidden Bhaalspawn
FM Montaron
Necromancer


Hidden Bhaalspawn
FM Safana/FM Jan
Doppelganger


Hidden Bhaalspawn




Hidden Neutral
FM Branwen
Avenger


Hidden Neutral
FM Nalia
Bounty Hunter


Hidden Neutral
FM Faldorn?
Druid


Hidden Neutral




Hidden Neutral




Hidden Harper




Duke




Hidden Adventurer
FM Kivan
Heartwarder


Hidden Adventurer
FM Aerie
Ranger


Hidden Adventurer
FM Cernd
Ritualist


Hidden Adventurer




Hidden Adventurer




Hidden Adventurer




Hidden Adventurer




Hidden Adventurer




Explorer
seed



Explorer




Explorer




Hidden Cultist
FM Shar-Teel
Quartermaster


Assassin
FM Sarevok
Arcane Trickster


Assassin
FM Mazzy
Assassin


Hidden Harper
FM Alora
Harper Guardian


Cleric
FM Edwin
Cleric


Hidden Adventurer
FM Minsc
Herald


Hidden Adventurer
FM Keldorn
Bard


Hidden Adventurer
FM Skie
Enchanter


Hidden Adventurer
FM Quayle
Illusionist


Hidden Adventurer
FM Imoen
Diviner


Explorer
FM Viconia
Explorer


Explorer
FM Anomen
Explorer


Explorer
FM Eldoth
Explorer


Explorer
FM Jaheira
Explorer



Not Crossed off: FM Safana the ???

Yes im gonna use that to fill in gaps for me, btw whats with the invi seed in the explorer bracket

[FM Kagain]

It's because you're an Amnesiac.

That could explain double cleric. I doubt there were would've been doubles of things like that.

[FM Ajantis]

That could explain double cleric. I doubt there were would've been doubles of things like that.

So stop calling me Avenger...

[FM Faldorn]

Yes im gonna use that to fill in gaps for me, btw whats with the invi seed in the explorer bracket

Harper might of converted. But it's not comfirmed.

[FM Ajantis]

Harper might of converted. But it's not comfirmed.

My list is better, easier to read and more colorful.

[FM Kagain]

Anyway, I'm gonna go and use the chart to figure things out

[FM Faldorn]

My list is better, easier to read and more colorful.

Your list is a Fag.

[FM Yeslick]

It's because you're an Amnesiac.

No.

[FM Yeslick]

That could explain double cleric. I doubt there were would've been doubles of things like that.

It's double cleric because the setup demands it. hoenstly if i had to picked a role beofre n3 i would have picked a scum role. wouldn't pick a fucking cleric, thats boring as shiiiit

[FM Yeslick]

but i heal bitches for a living from the get-go, only after edwin died did I learn I was conversion immune ama

[FM Coran]

So stop calling me Avenger...

What about Aventis?

[FM Coran]

The Prophet
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Doppelganger) - Safana
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Necromancer) - Montaron
Hidden Bhaalspawn (Half-Dragon)
Hidden Neutral (Bounty Hunter) - Nalia
Hidden Neutral (Thief/Lunatic) - Khalid
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Harper (???) - Xzar
Duke
Hidden Adventurer (Ranger) - Aerie
Hidden Adventurer (Heartwarder/Beguiler) - Kivan
Hidden Adventurer (Ritualist/Graverobber) - Cernd
Hidden Adventurer
Hidden Adventurer
Hidden Adventurer
Hidden Adventurer
Hidden Adventurer
Explorer
Explorer
Explorer

FM Ajantis
FM Coran
FM Dynaheir
FM Faldorn
FM Garrick
FM Haer-Dalis
FM Kagain
FM Korgan
FM Tiax
FM Valygar
FM Xan
FM Yeslick
FM Yoshimo

Hidden Cultist (Quartermaster) - Shar-Teel
Assassin (Arcane Trickter) - Sarevok
Assassin? - Jan
Assassin - Mazzy
Hidden Neutral (Avenger) - Branwen
Hidden Harper (Harper Guardian) - Alora
Cleric - Edwin
Hidden Adventurer (Herald) - Minsc
Hidden Adventurer (Bard)- Keldorn
Hidden Adventurer (Enchanter) - Skie
Hidden Adventurer (Diviner) - Imoen
Hidden Adventurer (Illusionist) - Quayle
Explorer - Eldoth
Explorer - Viconia
Explorer - Anomen
Explorer - Jaheira


I was bored. If I have missed anyone's claim please tell me.
Will this help you Kagain?



Setup
Player
Role/RoleClaim


The Prophet




Assassin




Hidden Bhaalspawn
FM Montaron
Necromancer


Hidden Bhaalspawn
FM Safana/FM Jan
Doppelganger


Hidden Bhaalspawn




Hidden Neutral
FM Branwen
Avenger


Hidden Neutral
FM Nalia
Bounty Hunter


Hidden Neutral
FM Faldorn?
Druid


Hidden Neutral




Hidden Neutral




Hidden Harper




Duke




Hidden Adventurer
FM Kivan
Heartwarder


Hidden Adventurer
FM Aerie
Ranger


Hidden Adventurer
FM Cernd
Ritualist


Hidden Adventurer




Hidden Adventurer




Hidden Adventurer




Hidden Adventurer




Hidden Adventurer




Explorer
seed



Explorer




Explorer




Hidden Cultist
FM Shar-Teel
Quartermaster


Assassin
FM Sarevok
Arcane Trickster


Assassin
FM Mazzy
Assassin


Hidden Harper
FM Alora
Harper Guardian


Cleric
FM Edwin
Cleric


Hidden Adventurer
FM Minsc
Herald


Hidden Adventurer
FM Keldorn
Bard


Hidden Adventurer
FM Skie
Enchanter


Hidden Adventurer
FM Quayle
Illusionist


Hidden Adventurer
FM Imoen
Diviner


Explorer
FM Viconia
Explorer


Explorer
FM Anomen
Explorer


Explorer
FM Eldoth
Explorer


Explorer
FM Jaheira
Explorer



Not Crossed off: FM Safana the ???

With Branwen flipping Avenger, I'm pretty sure that Khalid is the true Half-Dragon.
Then Khalid did not open the Inner Sanctum due to lack of clue.
Then Montaron did or did not waste his burn...

[FM Yoshimo]

Yo yeslick, respond to Aerie so we can find out what she found out, yo.

[FM Yeslick]

Yo yeslick, respond to Aerie so we can find out what she found out, yo.

????????????????????

[FM Yeslick]

I would like yeslick to claim who he visited first.

i ghealed that fucking fuck montaron and he didnt do SHIT about it
i expected that asshole to roast some bhallspawn and neutral poon

[FM Ajantis]

1) Role list (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/22982-Day-7?p=378477&viewfull=1#post378477)

2) Puzzle chat

FM Khalid
FM Yeslick
FM Xan
FM Korgan
FM Anomen
FM Coran
FM Dynaheir
FM Nalia
FM Ajantis
FM Eldoth
FM Skie
FM Yoshimo

FM Montaron
FM Quayle
FM Keldorn (N1/2)
FM Valygar
FM Cernd
FM Aerie
FM Haer-Dalis
FM Xzar
FM Imoen
FM Tiax
FM Garrick
FM Viconia

FM Safana
FM Sarevok
FM Jaheira
FM Minsc (N1/2/3)
FM Shar-Teel
FM Alora
FM Faldorn
FM Branwen
FM Kivan
FM Jan
FM Mazzy
FM Kagain

FM Jaheira
FM Aerie
FM Safana
FM Anomen
FM Eldoth
FM Xzar
FM Faldorn
FM Montaron
FM Kivan
FM Minsc (N1/2/3)
FM Kagain
FM Garrick

FM Khalid
FM Sarevok
FM Quayle
FM Keldorn (N1/2)
FM Mazzy
FM Imoen
FM Branwen
FM Cernd
FM Yeslick
FM Tiax
FM Ajantis

FM Viconia
FM Coran
FM Jan
FM Xan
FM Valygar
FM Shar-Teel
FM Alora
FM Dynaheir
FM Haer-Dalis
FM Korgan
FM Nalia
FM Yoshimo

FM Minsc (N1/2/3)
FM Nalia
FM Faldorn
FM Korgan
FM Yeslick
FM Safana
FM Quayle
FM Jan
FM Xzar
FM Ajantis
FM Montaron

FM Anomen
FM Imoen
FM Haer-Dalis
FM Coran
FM Khalid
FM Cernd
FM Kivan
FM Aerie
FM Keldorn
FM Kagain
FM Branwen

FM Valygar
FM Yoshimo
FM Tiax
FM Sarevok
FM Dynaheir
FM Xan
FM Alora
FM Mazzy
FM Jaheira
FM Garrick
FM Shar-Teel

FM Korgan
FM Alora
FM Keldorn
FM Coran
FM Yeslick
FM Ajantis
FM Kivan
FM Khalid
FM Xan
FM Haer-Dalis
FM Valygar
FM Faldorn
FM Yoshimo
FM Garrick

FM Imoen
FM Jaheira
FM Montaron
FM Branwen
FM Shar-Teel
FM Dynaheir
FM Nalia
FM Cernd
FM Jan/Safana
FM Xzar
FM Aerie
FM Tiax
FM Kagain

[FM Ajantis]

Conversion of Keldorn (possible only on N1/2)
1) If N1 but unlikely...
Same chat: Valygar, Haer-Dalis, Tiax, Garrick
2) If N2 most likely...
Same chat: Yeslick, Tiax

YESLICK OR TIAX IS THE PROPHET!!!

[FM Yeslick]

i'll roll with those odds since i have fucked up all my reads and lynches but im not the prophet and honestly i kinda trust jan about xzar or xan being immune and shit

[FM Ajantis]

FM Tiax

ROLECLAIM OR DIE!

[FM Yeslick]

fm tiax

ok

[FM Garrick]

FM Garrick thinks that FM Tiax is only scummy for sheeping FM Garrick and FM Ajantis onto the FM Shar-Teel and FM Keldorn lynches. FM Garrick thinks that FM Valygar and FM Yoshimo look much worse than FM Tiax.

Do not forget from last night:

FM Valygar

Can we please not send Keldorn tonight (or Haer-Dalis)?

Khalid or Faldorn can survive (unless Khalid isn't the thief, but then I'd want him dead). I would be fine with sending Dynaheir.

FM Branwen

Alerting. Valygar is using his bh contract to try to kill the person who bashed the cult quartermaster? So i know one person who is dead tonight... Valygar should be sent to be lynched tomorrow. There were tons of choices he could have used them on, but I was the most waste of time.

Aerie is also now coming out very scummy. Wishing my death but not showing any valid argument, or even trying to accuse me of being cult, then I am just a threat to them; That screams cult. I am sure that both of the other bhaalspawn will be converted by tomorrow, safana before tonight and montaron tonight (if they havent been already)

The bounty hunter will perish, that leaves my list of scum as Keldorn, Aerie, Valygar.

If you had a chance to kill me with a bh, I would argue differently with you. But now it sounds like your trying to dwindle down my alerts. Very scummy, but I will finish off the bh, if there is one.

FM Garrick would like to say that FM Garrick found FM Branwen at least not to be cult based on FM Branwen's push on FM Shar-Teel. FM Garrick agrees with FM Branwen's analysis that FM Valygar is scum who targeted FM Branwen. FM Valygar asked around to make sure his choice for the kill would be acceptable. If FM Garrick was given a bounty hunter contract, FM Garrick would just go for whoever FM Garrick finds the most suspicious instead of trying to talk about who FM Garrick should kill to avoid suspicion if FM Garrick accidentally killed a townie.

FM Garrick also wants to point out that FM Valygar asked not to lynch FM Haer-Dalis who was probably recruited to the cult as an assassin and FM Keldorn who ended up flipping cult bard.

FM Valygar

FM Ajantis do not you agree that FM Valygar looks worse than FM Tiax. FM Tiax has been voting with us when we lynched the bad guys. If FM Tiax is cult and FM Tiax is helping us lynch scum then keep FM Tiax around and we can deal with FM Tiax later.

[FM Yoshimo]

FM Tiax

ROLECLAIM OR DIE!

I'll join this for the simple fact he seems to be away a lot.

FM Tiax

[FM Garrick]

I'll join this for the simple fact he seems to be away a lot.

FM Garrick thinks that voting someone for being away is a worse excuse than voting someone for making a scummy bounty-hunter kill choice. Please vote with FM Garrick on FM Valygar.

Thank you.

[FM Yeslick]

they are both looking bad.

[FM Garrick]

FM Valygar and FM Yoshimo were also very opposed to the FM Shar-Teel lynch. FM Yoshimo unvoted FM Jaheira late in the day and said that we were making a mistake. FM Yoshimo did not attempt to halt the FM Jaheira lynch until it was too late. FM Garrick thinks FM Yoshimo wanted town points for jumping off of the mislynch.

FM Valygar is FM Garrick's biggest scum suspect. FM Garrick also thinks it would be good to expose what faction the ghost has to see lose. That is an additional bonus on top of FM Garrick suspecting FM Valygar is scum scum scum.

[FM Ajantis]

FM Aerie - Confirmed Ranger/Ranger, likes to reveal roles of others for some reasons
FM Ajantis - Town Leader
FM Cernd - Ritualist at least until N5 (conversion is before autopsy and revealed Keldorn's lie), should confirm if he is still Ritualist...
FM Coran - Epitome of lurker
FM Dynaheir - Reduced activity and contribution is worrisome
FM Faldorn - Self-styled Druid, likely Prophet candidate for Den of Evil conspiracy theorists
FM Garrick - Not cult at least on D5 (caught Shar-Teel with codes)
FM Haer-Dalis - Claimed explorer...
FM Jan - Safana!
FM Kagain - Replacement at D3. Level-headed, too level-headed...
FM Khalid - Thief who is bad at puzzles, no doubt. Lunatic now.
FM Kivan - Heartwarder. Make sure he reveals Heartwarding targets everynight
FM Korgan - ...
FM Montaron - Necromancer in trouble
FM Nalia - Bounty Hunter. Confirmed.
FM Tiax - Lied about being replaced. Likely suspect for Prophet who converted Keldorn.
FM Valygar - Killed Branwen who caught Shar-Teel with Bounty Hunter? He is scum, else he is bad. Happy to see him go.
FM Xan - Another Thief?
FM Xzar - Claimed Harper. Someone will deal with him.
FM Yeslick - Claimed Cleric. Sounds fishy...
FM Yoshimo - Some neutral...

[FM Ajantis]

FM Garrick thinks that voting someone for being away is a worse excuse than voting someone for making a scummy bounty-hunter kill choice. Please vote with FM Garrick on FM Valygar.

Thank you.
Let's wait for Branwen... in any case, Valygar should claim.

[FM Garrick]

FM Garrick is pro-neutral. Go Bhaalspawns. Go Avenger. Go Bounty Hunter.

FM Garrick also wants to remind FM Jan that FM Jan did not die last night, just as FM Garrick said. You are welcome, FM Jan. Please side with the town. FM Garrick would like FM Jan to help the town with giving a list of the cultists. FM Garrick directs the Harper Paragon to block FM Haer-Dalis to eliminate one of the cult kills. Lynching FM Valygar may eliminate another.

[FM Yoshimo]

FM Garrick thinks that voting someone for being away is a worse excuse than voting someone for making a scummy bounty-hunter kill choice. Please vote with FM Garrick on FM Valygar.

Thank you.

Until you start providing reasoned, logical arguments that actually make a scrap of sense, Garrick, I won't be voting with you. You're a Lunatic, whether that's your role, or not.

Voting Tiax to provoke him to come out of the shadows and actually contribute seems like an excellent idea to me.

[FM Ajantis]

At least Jaheira is right. Culted Bard blocked her to score town points.

[FM Yoshimo]

FM Valygar and FM Yoshimo were also very opposed to the FM Shar-Teel lynch. FM Yoshimo unvoted FM Jaheira late in the day and said that we were making a mistake. FM Yoshimo did not attempt to halt the FM Jaheira lynch until it was too late. FM Garrick thinks FM Yoshimo wanted town points for jumping off of the mislynch. Please read the Day chat and switch on your brain. Pending 2 more role-blocked claims, I am confirmed non-cult (unless you think I'm the Prophet). I was role-blocked. 2 possibilities: 1. Targeted by Harper Paragon = not cult. 2. Targeted by Cult Bard = not cult.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

But I should've gotten something regardless of the outcome..

Except if there's a situation in which I would receive nothing by being drugged to get nothing or something like that. Is that even possible here? Halp. QQ

If Xzar is a Harper and he should have gotten feedback then it means he is a Harper Agent. His recruit is an alchemist then. The whole having a Harper Paragon kinda died off since not one person has been killed by a paragon yet.

[FM Garrick]

Let's wait for Branwen... in any case, Valygar should claim.

Based on the order of operations FM Branwen could possess the night FM Branwen died. FM Garrick wonders who FM Branwen decided to possess. FM Garrick knows that FM Garrick will not be possessed because FM Garrick is pro-neutral and wants to help FM Branwen win as long as FM Branwen's opposed faction is not the one of FM Garrick.

Hi FM Branwen.

[FM Coran]

FM Valygar and FM Yoshimo were also very opposed to the FM Shar-Teel lynch. FM Yoshimo unvoted FM Jaheira late in the day and said that we were making a mistake. FM Yoshimo did not attempt to halt the FM Jaheira lynch until it was too late. FM Garrick thinks FM Yoshimo wanted town points for jumping off of the mislynch.

FM Valygar is FM Garrick's biggest scum suspect. FM Garrick also thinks it would be good to expose what faction the ghost has to see lose. That is an additional bonus on top of FM Garrick suspecting FM Valygar is scum scum scum.

Valygar has been on my scum list for a while now as a converted town.
I'm willing to place some pressure on him after we get some answer/explanation from Tiax.

FM Tiax

[FM Ajantis]

If Xzar is a Harper and he should have gotten feedback then it means he is a Harper Agent. His recruit is an alchemist then. The whole having a Harper Paragon kinda died off since not one person has been killed by a paragon yet.
Doesn't seemed like he have any leads...

[FM Yoshimo]

Based on the order of operations FM Branwen could possess the night FM Branwen died. FM Garrick wonders who FM Branwen decided to possess. FM Garrick knows that FM Garrick will not be possessed because FM Garrick is pro-neutral and wants to help FM Branwen win as long as FM Branwen's opposed faction is not the one of FM Garrick. Hi FM Branwen. Facepalm.

[FM Garrick]

Until you start providing reasoned, logical arguments that actually make a scrap of sense, Garrick, I won't be voting with you. You're a Lunatic, whether that's your role, or not.

Voting Tiax to provoke him to come out of the shadows and actually contribute seems like an excellent idea to me.

FM Garrick directs FM Yoshimo to read [7.82]. FM Garrick notices how FM Yoshimo attacks the credibility of FM Yoshimo's accusers instead of responding to the arguments and suspicions presented.

Townies, do not be fooled. FM Garrick will lead us to victory. Just vote FM Valygar.

[FM Yeslick]

fm valygar

[FM Yoshimo]

FM Garrick directs FM Yoshimo to read [7.82]. FM Garrick notices how FM Yoshimo attacks the credibility of FM Yoshimo's accusers instead of responding to the arguments and suspicions presented.

I'm not attacking your credibility. You had none to start with.

[FM Ajantis]

FM Garrick directs FM Yoshimo to read [7.82]. FM Garrick notices how FM Yoshimo attacks the credibility of FM Yoshimo's accusers instead of responding to the arguments and suspicions presented.

Townies, do not be fooled. FM Garrick will lead us to victory. Just vote FM Valygar.

Avenger cannot possess the same night since there is no time for Avenger to choose his target.

[FM Yoshimo]

herr durr "I KNOW VICONIA IS CULT"

[FM Coran]

fm tiax

ok


fm valygar

That sheeping...

[FM Ajantis]

Avenger cannot possess the same night since there is no time for Avenger to choose his target.

Unless Avenger was lynched...

[FM Yeslick]

That sheeping...

stfu

[FM Garrick]

FM Kagain - Replacement at D3. Level-headed, too level-headed...

FM Garrick thinks that FM Kagain is town. FM Kagain is a replacement and FM Kagain is not afraid to vote a player by FM Kagain's self and push suspicions on overlooked players. FM Garrick reads this as a town tell. Analysis of the vote trains has all who flipped cult voting as part of the huge trains instead of random single votes to the side like a lot of FM Kagain's votes on FM Ajantis and FM Garrick.

[FM Ajantis]

Please remove Jaheira.

Should it be 11 to lynch with 21 alive?

[FM Ajantis]

Kivan please reveal all your Heartwarding targets for the past night to confirm the maximum number of Cult left.

[FM Garrick]

I'm not attacking your credibility. You had none to start with.

FM Yoshimo claims not to attack FM Garrick's credibility by attacking FM Garrick's credibility. FM Garrick knows FM Garrick is on to something based on FM Yoshimo's aggression.


Avenger cannot possess the same night since there is no time for Avenger to choose his target.
Avenger possession is the last possible in the order of operations. FM Garrick thinks that the avenger could pre-emptively select a possession target.

Can the avenger pre-emptively choose to possess a target to possess in the event that he is killed at night?


herr durr "I KNOW VICONIA IS CULT"

FM Garrick would point out that FM Yoshimo continues to misrep FM Garrick on the FM Viconia train. FM Garrick only claimed that FM Viconia was not an explorer. FM Yoshimo twisted FM Garrick's words to claim that FM Garrick said that FM Viconia is a cultist. FM Garrick said no such thing.

And FM Garrick already explained FM Garrick's disbelief in FM Viconia as an explorer based on replacement mechanics.

[FM Garrick]

FM Garrick supports two pressure trains such as in previous days. FM Garrick is fine with one of them being FM Tiax as long as FM Valygar is thoroughly questioned about FM Valygar's actions.

[FM Ajantis]

I'll be on V/LA for the next 24 hours...

Someone makes sure we complete all the to do list today:

1) Valygar claim
2) Tiax claim
3) Cernd N6 results
4) Kivan all heartwarding targets
5) Aerie confirm Yeslick's N6 target

Bye!

[FM Yoshimo]

FM Yoshimo claims not to attack FM Garrick's credibility by attacking FM Garrick's credibility. FM Garrick knows FM Garrick is on to something based on FM Yoshimo's aggression.


No, I'm just pissed that after I've been so patient with your retarded comments for so many days, you're still spewing this crap.

[FM Garrick]

1) Valygar claim
2) Tiax claim
3) Cernd N6 results
4) Kivan all heartwarding targets
5) Aerie confirm Yeslick's N6 target
6) FM Khalid reveal if FM Khalid was attacked

Added one to the list.

[FM Garrick]

No, I'm just pissed that after I've been so patient with your retarded comments for so many days, you're still spewing this crap.

FM Garrick has been so patient with FM Yoshimo's refusal to contribute to finding scum. FM Yoshimo only tries to derail trains on scum and attack FM Garrick's credibility.

[FM Garrick]

FM Yoshimo why do not you do something productive and present a list of your reads on all the players with reasoning.

[FM Yoshimo]

FM Garrick has been so patient with FM Yoshimo's refusal to contribute to finding scum. FM Yoshimo only tries to derail trains on scum and attack FM Garrick's credibility.

No, I try to stop retards like you from killing Town.

[FM Garrick]

No, I try to stop retards like you from killing Town.

FM Garrick offered FM Yoshimo a way to be useful by posting reads but FM Yoshimo ignores the call to be useful and tries to insult other players. FM Garrick will ask a gain. Please post FM Yoshimo's reads on other players.

[FM Yoshimo]

FM Garrick offered FM Yoshimo a way to be useful by posting reads but FM Yoshimo ignores the call to be useful and tries to insult other players. FM Garrick will ask a gain. Please post FM Yoshimo's reads on other players.

I don't try to insult other players. You are just the most annoying person in FM history.

It would be foolish to post a list of reads prior to learning what the claimed PRs have to say about last night, in particular from Cernd, Aerie, and Kivan.

I will give you this excerpt though:


FM Garrick: idiot

[FM Valygar]

1) I don't feel like claiming: I think I'll let Korgan do it for me.
2) I was never against the Shar Teel lynch: I just happened to favor the Branwen lynch more (and we ultimately achieved the same end result).
3) I still don't regret defending Keldorn or Haer-Dalis: I thought (and I still think, for the record) that the arguments against either player were pretty thin and based merely on a limited understanding of the main puzzle. I never said Keldorn wouldn't flip scum (although I didn't expect him to), I just said I wasn't at all comfortable with proceeding yesterday.

[FM Garrick]

1) I don't feel like claiming: I think I'll let Korgan do it for me.
2) I was never against the Shar Teel lynch: I just happened to favor the Branwen lynch more (and we ultimately achieved the same end result).
3) I still don't regret defending Keldorn or Haer-Dalis: I thought (and I still think, for the record) that the arguments against either player were pretty thin and based merely on a limited understanding of the main puzzle. I never said Keldorn wouldn't flip scum (although I didn't expect him to), I just said I wasn't at all comfortable with proceeding yesterday.

Please explain your reasoning for using the Bounty Hunter to shooting FM Branwen who attacked FM Shar-Teel the cultist and led to FM Shar-Teel's death. What scum role did you expect FM Branwen to flip?

[FM Nalia]

Uh-oh, the Avenger is going to haunt me next day. Please remember that if you see mee post in Day 8, it will be not actually me, it will be Branwen!

[FM Nalia]

No, Valygar is a fine job. That Branwen was actually "haunting" me even during the day. Why you don't lynch Tiax instead?

[FM Valygar]

Please explain your reasoning for using the Bounty Hunter to shooting FM Branwen who attacked FM Shar-Teel the cultist and led to FM Shar-Teel's death. What scum role did you expect FM Branwen to flip?

I was thinking he was one of three things (or some combination of the 3):
1) Bhaalspawn (and a useless one at that)
2) Cultist (particularly after he pushed the Shar Teel train: he would've made an unexpected yet great recruit)
3) Scummy townie of the Anomen nature

Clearly, he didn't flip town, so I don't feel incredibly stupid. I'm not thrilled about it, but it's a lot better than accidentally shooting the Duke or something...

I'm guessing that Branwen will either haunt Kivan/Nalia (because he can stop them from performing actions) or (more likely) me tomorrow.

[FM Garrick]

I'm guessing that Branwen will either haunt Kivan/Nalia (because he can stop them from performing actions) or (more likely) me tomorrow.

What faction are you? FM Garrick just wants to know.

[FM Valygar]

What faction are you? FM Garrick just wants to know.

I'm in the Green Mafia. It's hilarious, because Branwen effectively lost the game: he will be more of an irritation than a threat.

[FM Valygar]

What faction are you? FM Garrick just wants to know.

Guess my role: I'm curious to see how close you are. Someone (who is now dead) had guessed it before, and I have hinted at it as well, but I'd like to see you give it a shot.

[FM Nalia]

Ladies and gentlement, here is our Duke!

[FM Valygar]

Ladies and gentlement, here is our Duke!

Close, but not even close.

[FM Valygar]

Ladies and gentlement, here is our Duke!

Now that you think about it, I really wish I was the Duke: it would've made Heartwarder chat N1 very awkward with Korgan...

[FM Garrick]

Guess my role: I'm curious to see how close you are. Someone (who is now dead) had guessed it before, and I have hinted at it as well, but I'd like to see you give it a shot.

FM Garrick knows FM Valygar said FM Korgan can reveal FM Valygar's role that was claimed in the Heartwarder Chat on N1. FM Garrick thinks FM Valygar will claim Coroner. This is mostly because FM Garrick wants the coroner to reveal who FM Shar-Teel visited so a cultist can be lynched.

[FM Valygar]

FM Garrick knows FM Valygar said FM Korgan can reveal FM Valygar's role that was claimed in the Heartwarder Chat on N1. FM Garrick thinks FM Valygar will claim Coroner. This is mostly because FM Garrick wants the coroner to reveal who FM Shar-Teel visited so a cultist can be lynched.

Nope, and I doubt there's even a coroner in the game (in a setup with up to 14 PRs [the cleric and 13 hidden adventurers which can be PRs or explorers] I doubt they'd have a coroner and a mortician).

[FM Garrick]

Then FM Valygar is going to claim Explorer.

FM Garrick hopes that FM Valygar gets recruited by the Harpers.

If the player who kills the Avenger changes factions (example: from adventurer to harper) will the Avenger change to need to defeat the Harpers? Will the Avenger be informed if his target changes factions (example: from adventurer to harper)?

[FM Valygar]

Then FM Valygar is going to claim Explorer.

FM Garrick hopes that FM Valygar gets recruited by the Harpers.

If the player who kills the Avenger changes factions (example: from adventurer to harper) will the Avenger change to need to defeat the Harpers? Will the Avenger be informed if his target changes factions (example: from adventurer to harper)?

Yep: if you noticed why I was getting kinda butthurt when people were bashing on the Harpers, you can see why :P

[FM Montaron]

Well, I am screwed.

Knew I should've held off the burn~

Good game gents.

[FM Valygar]

Well, I am screwed.

Knew I should've held off the burn~

Good game gents.

Not true: Yeslick heals.

[FM Xzar]

Alright, I'm back.

Yes, I am a Harper Agent. I tried to subtly bring up the idea of there being no Harper Paragon but I guess I didn't try hard enough and I didn't want to reveal myself obviously.

I'm pretty sure my recruitment went through because I spotted a subtle hard claim of that person, I just got no confirmation. Doesn't matter.. There should be an Alchemist's fire being given out tonight.

My investigations have only shown untained results. I have not spotted any Cults, Bhaalspawns or cursed targets so far.

[FM Aerie]

I was on lookout at kivans house last night. No one visited him. I thought the cult would send a assassin to kill him if the sanctum was opened.

[FM Aerie]

The prophet will probably Controll Jan into disguising as a townie tonight.

[FM Yoshimo]

So are there any loose ends re: the puzzle clues? Or can we finally move on from that?

Also, can we try to create a list of who the Prophet recruited where?
Prophet actions:
N1:
N2:
N3:
N4:
N5:
N6: failed to recruit Xzar

Please fill this in if you know the answers.

[FM Yoshimo]

Also, does anybody happen to have a list of every role-block that's been claimed and on which days by which player?

[FM Garrick]

FM Garrick posted all the block claims in the puzzle chat in several tables.

[FM Yoshimo]

FM Garrick posted all the block claims in the puzzle chat in several tables.

Okay thanks.

[FM Garrick]

To do List

1) Valygar claimExplorer
2) Tiax claim
3) Cernd N6 results
4) Kivan all heartwarding targets
5) Aerie confirm Yeslick's N6 target Lookout on FM Kivan, visited by nobody.
6) FM Khalid reveal if FM Khalid was attacked

[FM Montaron]

To do List

1) Valygar claimExplorer
2) Tiax claim
3) Cernd N6 results
4) Kivan all heartwarding targets
5) Aerie confirm Yeslick's N6 target Lookout on FM Kivan, visited by nobody.
6) FM Khalid reveal if FM Khalid was attacked

I burned last night. Both Jan and Khalid were attacked by me.

Expect the Disguise from Jan tonight.

[FM Yoshimo]

Role-block claims: Day 2: FM Quayle Day 3: FM Tiax Day 4: FM Yeslick Day 5: FM Jan AND FM Montaron Day 6: ??? Day 7: FM Yoshimo Why are there 2 role-block claims for Day 5? There seems to have been only 1 active role-blocker, which was FM Keldorn the Bard. Given that he posted a fake clue on Day 3, he was culted N2 or N1, therefore anybody who claimed role-blocked after Day 3 was not Cult at the time of blocking. That means if Yeslick is Cult he was converted from N3 on, otherwise he is cleared. Keldorn targeted me last night and I couldn't have been converted because Xzar was visited by the Prophet. This is irrefutable evidence that I am not Cult.

[FM Yoshimo]

I hate this site when it destroys formatting wtf.

[FM Montaron]

Role-block claims: Day 2: FM Quayle Day 3: FM Tiax Day 4: FM Yeslick Day 5: FM Jan AND FM Montaron Day 6: ??? Day 7: FM Yoshimo Why are there 2 role-block claims for Day 5? There seems to have been only 1 active role-blocker, which was FM Keldorn the Bard. Given that he posted a fake clue on Day 3, he was culted N2 or N1, therefore anybody who claimed role-blocked after Day 3 was not Cult at the time of blocking. That means if Yeslick is Cult he was converted from N3 on, otherwise he is cleared. Keldorn targeted me last night and I couldn't have been converted because Xzar was visited by the Prophet. This is irrefutable evidence that I am not Cult.


About Day 5:
Harper Paragon.

[FM Ajantis]

The shining star of Baldur Gate has returned!

[FM Yoshimo]

About Day 5:
Harper Paragon.

There is no Harper Paragon.

[FM Montaron]

There is no Harper Paragon.

Dunno. Maybe Jan just lied. Wouldn't be too surprised.

[FM Ajantis]

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/22680-Day-3-Lies-and-Deceit?p=368912&viewfull=1#post368912
Tiax claimed roleblocked N2. Keldorn should be converted N1/2. So Tiax is less likely to be Prophet...

Yeslick is the better choice.
FM Yeslick

Furthermore, why would culted Keldorn roleblock Jan... unless he is roleblocking his culted teammates...

[FM Ajantis]

Quartermaster (Caporegime)
May assign a new role to a member of the Cult.

An Assassin can be assigned any Hidden Cult role.
Hidden Cult roles can be assigned the Assassin role.

Special:
Two nights between assignments
Target can’t act the night a new role is assigned to them
Can’t assign a Hidden Cult role that already exists among living cult members


Shar-Teel was lynched D5.
So... assuming Shar-Teel assigned N1, N4...

N1 Sarevok
N4 ???

But by N4, the starting cult: Mazzy, Sarevok and Jan??? (to be confirmed by Monk/Ritualist) were dead. She must have targeted new recruits.

[FM Ajantis]

Garrick should Yeslick or Tiax be lynched?

[FM Yoshimo]

Note Keldorn's will:

N1: Quayle
N2: Tiax
N3: Yeslick
N4: Jan
N5: Jaheira

I think Montaron fake claimed and there is no Paragon.
Good chance that Montaron is cult.

Also watch out for Branwen, Korgan, Yoshimo.

[FM Yoshimo]

It matches with the role-block claims.

@Ajantis, what is the accusation at Yeslick?

[FM Ajantis]

It matches with the role-block claims.

@Ajantis, what is the accusation at Yeslick?

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/22982-Day-7?p=378508&viewfull=1#post378508
Puzzle chat list

Keldorn lied about his N2 clue. Which means he was converted N1 or N2.

List of unconfirmed players in puzzle chat:
1) If N1, but is quite unlikely: Valygar, Haer-Dalis, Tiax, Garrick
2) If N2, most likely because Keldorn is going to solve the clue with confirmed answer: Yeslick, Tiax

Keldorn's roleblocks
N1: Quayle
N2: Tiax
N3: Yeslick
N4: Jan
N5: Jaheira

But Jan is supposedly Assassin, suggesting that Tiax and Yeslick might be Cult too. Keldorn might be roleblocking his buddies.

[FM Ajantis]

Correction: Jaheira should not be in red...

[FM Yoshimo]

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/22982-Day-7?p=378508&viewfull=1#post378508
Puzzle chat list

Keldorn lied about his N2 clue. Which means he was converted N1 or N2.

List of unconfirmed players in puzzle chat:
1) If N1, but is quite unlikely: Valygar, Haer-Dalis, Tiax, Garrick
2) If N2, most likely because Keldorn is going to solve the clue with confirmed answer: Yeslick, Tiax

Keldorn's roleblocks
N1: Quayle
N2: Tiax
N3: Yeslick
N4: Jan
N5: Jaheira

But Jan is supposedly Assassin, suggesting that Tiax and Yeslick might be Cult too. Keldorn might be roleblocking his buddies.

I am so lost.

Why would Keldorn be blocking his fellow cult? That makes no sense.

Why do you think the Prophet has to be in the same chat as the players he is recruiting?

[FM Ajantis]

At N2, Keldorn volunteered to solve the clue with confirmed correct answer, making it more likely that Prophet was in the same chat.

[FM Yoshimo]

At N2, Keldorn volunteered to solve the clue with confirmed correct answer, making it more likely that Prophet was in the same chat.

Ohhhh, now that you explain it that actually makes a lot of sense.

Niceeee.

[FM Yoshimo]

Except if Keldorn blocked Tiax N2 when he was converted then Tiax could not convert him, because he was blocked.

And it would make no sense for Keldorn to then block a fellow Cultist (Yeslick) the night after being recruited.

To me, that's a pretty strong argument for both Tiax and Yeslick not being Cult?

[FM Ajantis]

What about Jan then? Unless Safana is lying? Or there is a Harper Paragon like Montaron said.

[FM Ferengi]

Can the avenger pre-emptively choose to possess a target to possess in the event that he is killed at night?
No


If the player who kills the Avenger changes factions (example: from adventurer to harper) will the Avenger change to need to defeat the Harpers? Will the Avenger be informed if his target changes factions (example: from adventurer to harper)?
No, an avenger's enemy faction is locked.

[FM Yoshimo]

What about Jan then? Unless Safana is lying? Or there is a Harper Paragon like Montaron said.

There is no Harper Paragon. Jan was either lying, or tricked by the Arcana Trickster into thinking she'd been role-blocked.

[FM Ajantis]

Arcane Trickster (Drug Dealer)
May cast a major image at a chosen target, giving them false feedback.

Special:
May use any single night feedback in the game. Investigative feedback will not override the original feedback for investigative roles, but will give an additional result.

Can't have two feedbacks on N4 - Sarevok is dead. Maybe she is lying again...

[FM Tiax]

I'm on my phone right now so quoting is a little difficult

First off, I did replace the original tiax, I don't know why you people think that's such an unlikely possibility. I'm slightly annoyed at bhaal for refusing to confirm it.

Second, Garrack you are ignoring info in your sheeping vs picking lynches for your self argument. I had originally voted to lynch ajantis on the day sharteel died because I thought he was acting scummy based on the previous day. I switched my vote to sharteel the moment I read that she had lied about being master/student with jaheira. I actually believed her previous to that and was willing to join the train on brewan if jaheira had solved the cypher
Third, while I appreciate the alibi of the role block in the lw I don't think it's wise to trust the lw of a cult. Though I will once again confirm I was blocked n2
I checked the previous pms I got from bhaal

[FM Kivan]

Valygar fits the pattern. So far all my greatest Town reads from n1 has been converted and Valygar is one of them.

Ajantis and Garrick wanted me to give my targets, so here you go.

Code: aldsvrvkyeenqakibwvcxxcxbvrjpb
Key: dogsarecuteandliketolickthemselves
Phrase: xxxavarielandxzarscompanionxxx

D1: Korgan and Valygar
D2: Quayle and Minsc
D3: Quayle and Keldorn (he came up with a plan of how to use Quayle for information network that night)
D4: Ajantis and Alora
D5: Khalid and Jan
D6: Aerie and Montaron

Prophet is not dead, so Aerie wasn't converted n6.


So who is Half-dragon, Khalid or Xan? I can put Cleric with Half-dragon tonight and nobody will dare to target them. In return Cleric can heal me:P

Or I can put some confirmed Townie with half-dragon.

[FM Yoshimo]

Third, while I appreciate the alibi of the role block in the lw I don't think it's wise to trust the lw of a cult. Though I will once again confirm I was blocked n2 I checked the previous pms I got from bhaal It's not that we're trusting the last will of Keldorn. It's that Keldorn's last will matches up with the role-block claims made over the past 7 days. He was a role-blocker, and with the exception of Day 5 there's been 1 claim per day, so it seems legitimate that nobody is lying about their blocks.

[FM Yoshimo]

Can't have two feedbacks on N4 - Sarevok is dead. Maybe she is lying again...

Then the best fitting explanation must be that Jan lied to us... again.

[FM Ajantis]

Then we need to solve the puzzle of Montaron and Jan claiming blocked N4...


About Day 5:
Harper Paragon.

Since Montaron claimed that he was "smitten"...
Jan the Assassin was roleblocked?

We need Cernd to confirm... all his results, preferably...

[FM Kivan]

Keldorn blocking Montaron and Jan being blocked by Harper makes sense.

[FM Kivan]

Perhaps we should lynch Jan today? I'm not afraid to propose it because Jan is forced to kill Montaron tonight - if he kills somebody else he will be cursed.

[FM Kivan]

And when Montaron will be safe I can cooperate with him to douse 2 scum suspects.

FM Jan

[FM Aerie]

But the prophet will be able to manipulate Montaron aswell.

[FM Aerie]

But i agree that jan will probably form some kind of alliance with the cult in their night chat.

[FM Kivan]

Hmmm, good point. But can he block Montaron from undousing? Or force him to burn?

I think Jan will be more dangerous in the hand of the Prophet.

[FM Xzar]

Keldorn blocking Montaron and Jan being blocked by Harper makes sense.
Yeah, too bad that we have no Harper role that could block. Meaning Jan would have lied.

[FM Aerie]

Im honestly fine with lynching jan today. Montaron is less likely to backstab uss in the end. Fm Jan .

[FM Kivan]

Im honestly fine with lynching jan today. Montaron is less likely to backstab uss in the end. Fm Jan .

And less able too!

[FM Aerie]

Montaron will of course start dousing the harpers if he cares about his winning objective. Might not be the best idea to lynch jan.

[FM Aerie]

I think im going to pressure tiax first. Fm tiax

[FM Kivan]

The thing is if he douses somebody important we can always lynch him right after douse. I guess he needs to find other Bhaalspawn.

[FM Aerie]

i only think the cult has like 2-3 members alive. Xzar claims that they have failed 1 convert and it's possible that the prophet tried to send a assassin to kill someone last night.

[FM Montaron]

Montaron will of course start dousing the harpers if he cares about his winning objective. Might not be the best idea to lynch jan.

No, I will not be dousing the Harpers for now.

I'd like to think the Harpers and I have some kind of ''truce'' going on.
I'm not aiming for them right now; Other Bhaalspawns are much more dangerous to them than I am.
If I burn one of them, Town will simply lynch me. I'm pretty sure the Harpers will be focusing on the others before I, unless they really want me out of the way ASAP. Would be kind of silly, seeing how I've been doing my best to rid us of the other spawns.

And either way,
On a side note, Safajan didn't attack me last night. Not sure if she knew or not, or if she had simply given up and didn't bother sending in a night action, but as I said, she'll be going for me tonight.

[FM Aerie]

xzar should reveal all his night results. He promised to reveal everything today.

[FM Ajantis]

Keldorn blocking Montaron and Jan being blocked by Harper makes sense.

Jan being "attacked" by Harper you mean...

And Cult cannot attack, so no reason for Jan to suspect cult is attacking her, and reveal herself.


Hmmm, good point. But can he block Montaron from undousing? Or force him to burn?

I think Jan will be more dangerous in the hand of the Prophet.

Jan is not a threat even in Prophet's hand. If Prophet manipulates Jan, it means sending Jan to her death since Jan will be doused by Montaron. So Prophet will not manipulate Jan... in case Jan has last wills.

[FM Aerie]

The cult might not even have any assassins alive. 1 of them killed by a bounty hunter the 2nd killed by jan and the 3rd could have been converted by the quartermaster.

[FM Xzar]

xzar should reveal all his night results. He promised to reveal everything today.

I revealed everything important. I think revealing who I found to be untainted is not such a good idea because of WIFOM purposes. Cult won't know who I have checked and can only assume and as such I can freely check anyone I want.

I can say that I checked Branwen (as he is dead) on N2.

If the focus shifts on someone I checked to be untainted then I will say so. Otherwise I don't see the need really to reveal everything. After all, people I checked could have been recruited by now and my results could make people with doubts say "Okay, since he was checked he is clear so let's forget about that doubt." which would be counter-productive.

[FM Ajantis]

i only think the cult has like 2-3 members alive. Xzar claims that they have failed 1 convert and it's possible that the prophet tried to send a assassin to kill someone last night.

That an invalid move I think. I was told invalid move before it becomes valid is ignored. So Prophet can only attempt to recruit.

Can Cult send someone to kill yesterday?

[FM Aerie]

I revealed everything important. I think revealing who I found to be untainted is not such a good idea because of WIFOM purposes. Cult won't know who I have checked and can only assume and as such I can freely check anyone I want.

I can say that I checked Branwen (as he is dead) on N2.

If the focus shifts on someone I checked to be untainted then I will say so. Otherwise I don't see the need really to reveal everything. After all, people I checked could have been recruited by now and my results could make people with doubts say "Okay, since he was checked he is clear so let's forget about that doubt." which would be counter-productive.

Your results could help uss decide who the lynch today. Your targets could also have been recruited after you checked them.

[FM Aerie]

That an invalid move I think. I was told invalid move before it becomes valid is ignored. So Prophet can only attempt to recruit.

Can Cult send someone to kill yesterday?

I allready asked that question and the host answered Yes. But then the prophet would have to give up his convert.

[FM Ajantis]

Your results could help uss decide who the lynch today. Your targets could also have been recruited after you checked them.

No. He should keep it hidden. Anyway his results are useless to find the Prophet.

[FM Ajantis]

I think Tiax should roleclaim and give night actions.
Yeslick too. Roleclaim and night actions.

[FM Ajantis]

The lack of contribution from colored players is worth mentioning. Should they role claim?


FM Ajantis
FM Coran
FM Dynaheir
FM Faldorn
FM Garrick
FM Haer-Dalis
FM Kagain
FM Korgan
FM Tiax
FM Valygar
FM Xan
FM Yeslick
FM Yoshimo

[FM Ajantis]

FM Tiax

I'll join the Tiax wagon. Remember to pressure Yeslick. Aerie did Yeslick lie?

[FM Aerie]

I don't know if yeslick lied. I was on lookout at kivans house and no one visited him.

[FM Yeslick]

I don't know if yeslick lied. I was on lookout at kivans house and no one visited him.

le shiggidy diggidy
You fuck.


I think Tiax should roleclaim and give night actions.
Yeslick too. Roleclaim and night actions.

Does it sound more believable if I repeat it or something?
Second Job Priest, I don't even remember my night actions but I have posted them in my first few posts after Shar-Teel's lynch. The two night actions after that were heal FM Garrick and heal FM Montaron.

[FM Kivan]

I don't mind.

FM Tiax

[FM Jan]

Just woke up.
The only reason why I think the cult roleblocked me is that they knew who I disguised.
List of reasons: in the role list they recieved everyday, Jan does not show up anymore
They knew i visited him
Keldorn was the Bard when he roleblocked me before he got converted.
I assure you guys I am not lying. This offend me :(
The only thing I lied about was the clue I got on day 2 because what kind of Bhaalspawn want the sanctum opened that early. I am just playing my role. Right now I am siding with town, always was, always been.
But I am more concerned about my win condition than the town's and you guys shouldn't blame me for it.
NO I AM NOT A CULT! I seen many people accusing me of being culted doppelganger... The prophet is still alive...

Montaron is lying, I did disguise her last night. I wont lose disguises if I fail so I planned to disguise her last night and tonight.

[FM Yeslick]

I healed him last night but I didn't get a successful heal feedback. And why the fuck didn't you die????????

[FM Yeslick]

So tonight you have access to the night chat AND you can take out Montaron?

[FM Ajantis]

No! Keldorn was converted before D3. Most likely N2.

[FM Jan]

I healed him last night but I didn't get a successful heal feedback. And why the fuck didn't you die????????

The sanctum was closed and wtf yeslick...

[FM Ajantis]

This means that Yeslick is LYING!!!

[FM Jan]

The sanctum was closed and wtf yeslick...

If you fucking heal him again, I will NOT, i repeat NOT reveal what I found out in the cult chat I am joining tonight

[FM Yeslick]

The sanctum was closed and wtf yeslick...

Well I didn't get a heal feedback so he would have lived either way.
But yeah, I healed him. Like you, it was in my best interests since he could have taken out two Neutral roles that could swing votes to Cult.
However he's failed and is worthless now, so I think we can do business.

[FM Yeslick]

If you fucking heal him again, I will NOT, i repeat NOT reveal what I found out in the cult chat I am joining tonight

What reason do I have to keep him alive any more?

[FM Jan]

What reason do I have to keep him alive any more?
To have me dead, like you wanted me dead last night

[FM Ajantis]

If you fucking heal him again, I will NOT, i repeat NOT reveal what I found out in the cult chat I am joining tonight

Yeslick may do well to heal Jan today lol...

[FM Jan]

Well I didn't get a heal feedback so he would have lived either way.
But yeah, I healed him. Like you, it was in my best interests since he could have taken out two Neutral roles that could swing votes to Cult.
However he's failed and is worthless now, so I think we can do business.

Since both of you and montaron didnt get feedback, i am asking bhaal to see if theres hosting error.

[FM Aerie]

The cult is obviously going to make a deal with jan if he enters their night chat.

[FM Yeslick]

To have me dead, like you wanted me dead last night

That was last night because Montaron was the most useful at that time.
I don't want you dead today or tonight. So don't worry.

[FM Yeslick]

The cult is obviously going to make a deal with jan if he enters their night chat.

What kind of deal did you plan to offer him?

[FM Ajantis]

The cult is obviously going to make a deal with jan if he enters their night chat.

Only if the Cult can convince Jan that they have superiority in numbers... and have a Cleric to offer her protection from Harpers and vengeful town with alchemist fire.

[FM Jan]

Since majority of town is on this train, Ill join them
FM Tiax

[FM Aerie]

What kind of deal did you plan to offer him?

Im not going to offer him a deal. But they are probably going to tell him to disguise as someone else while they controll montaron into dousing townies.

[FM Jan]

Only if the Cult can convince Jan that they have superiority in numbers... and have a Cleric to offer her protection from Harpers and vengeful town with alchemist fire.

Guys... Please don't give cult good ideas, you are just gonna make it harder for me

[FM Aerie]

Wouldn't surprise me if jan disguises as xzar tonight.

[FM Yeslick]

Fucking Aerie is attempting to communicate to the Cult of Balls as we speak.

[FM Aerie]

I would have used the night chat to communicate with them if i was a cultist.

[FM Yeslick]

I would have used the night chat to communicate with them if i was a cultist.

But you got greedy, lazy, and or impatient.

[FM Aerie]

But you got greedy, lazy, and or impatient.

Im just giving reasons as to why jan is a good idea to lynch today.

[FM Ajantis]

Im not going to offer him a deal. But they are probably going to tell him to disguise as someone else while they controll montaron into dousing townies.

Jan deserve to lose if she took the deal... vest + cleric > cult. And what if she was caught?

As long as cult cannot kill (no assassins), Jan can easily eliminate known Harpers and the last Bhaalspawn.

[FM Aerie]

Im just saying that jan will escape tonight if we don't lynch him or the prophet. The avanger will add even more chaos tomorrow, so we might not even be able to find jan unless we want to risk lynching a controlled townie.

[FM Ajantis]

Im just saying that jan will escape tonight if we don't lynch him or the prophet. The avanger will add even more chaos tomorrow, so we might not even be able to find jan unless we want to risk lynching a controlled townie.

Where would she escape? You can even track her... and Montaron will be dousing... Prophet can't deal with both of you...

[FM Ajantis]

Killing Bhaalspawns and Harpers is out of the question... don't be stupid like Valygar. Shooting Branwen with Nalia is akin to sending Nalia to her death.

[FM Ajantis]

Harper recruit failed:
Having already found their calling in life, your target refused to join the secret society of the Harpers.

Explorer is recruited as a Harper:
[recruiter name] welcomed you into the secret society of the Harpers.

Xzar, you should be getting feedbacks. Did you get any? For recruiting?

[FM Aerie]

Where would she escape? You can even track her... and Montaron will be dousing... Prophet can't deal with both of you...
I could track her or i could be controlled by the avanger and lie about my results.


Killing Bhaalspawns and Harpers is out of the question... don't be stupid like Valygar. Shooting Branwen with Nalia is akin to sending Nalia to her death.

Lynching jan today would be saving a harpers or townies life becouse the cult is going to convince jan to disguise as someone else by promising him that they will controll montaron into dousing a townie or a harper.

[FM Yeslick]

So why not lynch Montaron and remove that leverage?

[FM Yeslick]

Sounds like you're scared a Cult that's scared of Jan. Because he has you right at the balls.

[FM Yeslick]

you're a scared*

[FM Ajantis]

I could track her or i could be controlled by the avanger and lie about my results.


Can't you make a code or something? Or even better find >30-word post and count A-Z?

[FM Xzar]

Xzar, you should be getting feedbacks. Did you get any? For recruiting?

That's what I'm saying, I didn't.

[FM Ajantis]

That's what I'm saying, I didn't.

Host. Please.

And remove Jaheira and correct vote tally.

[FM Aerie]

He could put me in a heartwarden chat with maybe yeslick. Then we can make disguise codes for eachother and if yeslick is a doctor they wont attack him becouse he can just heal me to heal himself.

And if yeslick is a scum they wont douse or attack me becouse then their scum buddy will die.

[FM Aerie]

Montaron, please include a message in your douse so we know who you are dousing.

[FM Ajantis]

He could put me in a heartwarden chat with maybe yeslick. Then we can make disguise codes for eachother and if yeslick is a doctor they wont attack him becouse he can just heal me to heal himself.

And if yeslick is a scum they wont douse or attack me becouse then their scum buddy will die.

Ur both scum. You just want Jan assassinated... Ranger.

[FM Aerie]

If i was a Ranger then the cult wouldn't have any assassins alive. Their only way of killing at night would be by using jan and montaron.

I would want to keep jan and montaron alive if i was a cultist.

[FM Ajantis]

If i was a Ranger then the cult wouldn't have any assassins alive. Their only way of killing at night would be by using jan and montaron.

I would want to keep jan and montaron alive if i was a cultist.
Explain. In detail. So that lesser mortals as I can understand.

[FM Montaron]

Please don't bother with me. At this point I'm just dead weight; I got completely screwed over and there's absolutely nothing I can do at this point.

Safaan can call me a liar all she wants; I got absolutely no feedback last night.

Enjoy getting screwed in the ass when he backstabs you all. :)

[FM Xan]

Please don't bother with me. At this point I'm just dead weight; I got completely screwed over and there's absolutely nothing I can do at this point.

Safaan can call me a liar all she wants; I got absolutely no feedback last night.

Enjoy getting screwed in the ass when he backstabs you all. :)

What if Xan said he invoked you so he could kill SafanaJan? :)

Cheer up, friend!

[FM Aerie]

What if Xan said he invoked you so he could kill SafanaJan? :)

Cheer up, friend!

Effectively removing his ability to burn becouse he would die if he visited himself. Not bad.

[FM Montaron]

What if Xan said he invoked you so he could kill SafanaJan? :)

Cheer up, friend!

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[FM Xan]

Effectively removing his ability to burn becouse he would die if he visited himself. Not bad.

Why thank you. Xan may or may not also have a fireball at your house. So remember to move every night ;)

[FM Montaron]

Why thank you. Xan may or may not also have a fireball at your house. So remember to move every night ;)

I... I don't even care at this point. I just want Jan to die.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/46d8829f4fe33bd5718a77e8245947f7/tumblr_mi2h99x9QR1qcy4dgo1_500.gif

The Mighty Montaron has lost interest in this silliness. Deliver him from his mortal shell!

[FM Xan]

I... I don't even care at this point. I just want Jan to die.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/46d8829f4fe33bd5718a77e8245947f7/tumblr_mi2h99x9QR1qcy4dgo1_500.gif

The Mighty Montaron has lost interest in this silliness. Deliver him from his mortal shell!

Hold up a minute. You said you burned Khalid and SafanaJan right? SafanaJan survived because the sanctum didn't open at the start of night, right? Meaning Khalid is not a thief, right? But he was immune. So guys, Khalid is the prophet.

FM Khalid

Right? Or is Xan derping again?

[FM Xan]

Janfana is now the official name for her btw.

[FM Aerie]

Thief starts with 1 autovest.

[FM Xan]

Thief starts with 1 autovest.

But since Khalid didn't open the Sanctum, he isn't thief.

[FM Xan]

But since Khalid didn't open the Sanctum, he isn't thief.

Unless he DID open the sanctum, but someone healed Janfana