The Graveyard: night 4

[FM Ferengi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBArx3AvPkk&list=PL945B1759FCAC5517

At the back of the great temple lies a humongous graveyard. Aside from an eerie cold breeze that sweeps through the cemetery, a deathly quiet grants it the an atmosphere befitting a place such as this. Many a headstone is unmarked, the cause of which may be that the inscriptions have worn in time, Korgan suggests that it could also be that in a settlement where the Lord of Murder reigns, some victims simply won’t have anyone left to identify them. And even if they had, the survivors may decide for their own safety that they’d be better off not revealing their association with the deceased.

Even so, it’s certain that like most everywhere else in the city, the graves have fallen into ruin. Some headstones are broken or just gone. And there are even some graves that are open, revealing the bones of those buried.

The group is suddenly alarmed by a wail the breeze carries to them from somewhere closeby. Despite Alora’s urging that they should probably leave this place as soon as possible, they go to investigate where it came from. It is heard again another time, louder as the adventurers close in, but then no more.

In the darkness, Coran almost stumbles over an old shovel sticking out of the barren soil. Beside it stands a headstone that remains whole, apart from a few small cracks in its surface. Atop the grave, which seems undisturbed, lies the skeleton of a human, the fingers of his or her bony hands clutching an obsidian dagger and a hand mirror with a frame of ivory. Garrick reads the words inscribed on the headstone out loud:

“You did not see the grand scheme of things.
You heard, but did not listen.
Now you lie here.
Soon with none to remember you.
We all are pawns in life and in death.
Even I.
Even you.”

When they finish, the wail is heard again. This time much closer. And it’s only now that the group spots the figure that has been observing them. It is a young man clothed in dark robes, like those of a monk or priest. His hood is off, and he is staring at the adventurers with a pair of black beads for eyes. The man’s translucency suggests that he must be a ghost of some kind. And while his appearance is somewhat menacing, it does not look like he’s an immediate threat.

Valygar clears his throat and asks “who are you, spirit?” But the apparition does not reply.

“Is this your grave?” tries Yoshimo as they point towards the headstone of which the inscriptions were just read aloud.

It takes a moment for the spectre to reply, though a few moments later his lips part and a hollow “NO.” emanates from his mouth.

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This is a lateral thinking puzzle. You may ask the ghost questions in pink, answers will be given in teal.

There may be some time before the ghost responds. He's a bit braindead, so he needs time to consider his answers.

Answers will only be yes or no. Open questions will not be answered. Questions about the solution to the main puzzle also will not be answered. Finally, if you ask the ghost a question about something he simply doesn't know, he will not answer either.

The solution you propose must be a summary of what you think has happened here. If all the required elements are included, the answer will be deemed correct. If any one element is omitted, the answer will be wrong.

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Reminder:
Each group must vote for a “volunteer” to test their solution. Note that someone can be forced to take this position against their will. Whoever gets the most votes will be charged with the task. In case of a tie, the volunteer will be randomised to break the tie.

Voting for a volunteer uses the same formatting as voting to lynch someone, with [ vote ] [ /vote ] tags around their name. A majority doesn’t lock the vote. The tally at the end of the night is used.

Solutions can be proposed by anyone, whether they’re chosen as volunteer or not. A solution is proposed in the puzzle chat using the following format:

-propose solution



Unfortunately for the explorers, all of these locations are heavily trapped. If a wrong answer is given by the volunteer, he has a 66% chance of being struck by a trap and die. Having no proposed solution counts as a wrong answer.

If he is correct though, he will be awarded with a clue in his night feedback PM and the puzzle location will be closed.

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Player List:
FM Korgan
FM Alora
FM Keldorn
FM Coran
FM Yeslick
FM Ajantis
FM Kivan
FM Khalid
FM Xan
FM Haer-Dalis
FM Valygar
FM Faldorn
FM Yoshimo
FM Garrick

[FM Keldorn]

Is this the grave of the High Priest?
Was the High Priest's name Sand?

[FM Kivan]

Is your name Sand, Qara, Ammon, Neeshka, Khelgar or Grobnar?

[FM Yeslick]

I have no idea how to start this.

What is your name?

[FM Yeslick]

Oh oops, it's all Y/N's...

[FM Valygar]

Oh crap, formatting requirements... I'll be a bit before I ask anything: I need my computer.

[FM Kivan]

Is that a grave of Sand, Qara, Ammon, Neeshka, Khelgar or Grobnar?

Oh there was elainee or something? If I forget a name please tell me guys.

[FM Yeslick]

Were you killed by another person?

[FM Kivan]

Ech, Anomen was obviously an Explorer.

Ghost, do you want us to do something for you?

[FM Haer-Dalis]

There the RP hinted. An obsidian dagger and a hand mirror with a frame of ivory. Either mazzy got the hand mirror or Ajantis lied. There is another item.

[FM Kivan]

I guess we are playing Detectives tonight. I hate lateral thining puzzles. They rarely make sense.

Ok so we are in the very old cementery, that belongs to the cult of Bhaal.

Ghost, were you murdered by the Cult of Bhaal?

Ghost's grave is newer one and he was buried in haste, because shovel is still here.

“You did not see the grand scheme of things.
You heard, but did not listen.
Now you lie here.
Soon with none to remember you.
We all are pawns in life and in death.
Even I.
Even you.”


Ghost, did you have a high position among Cult of Bhaal?

[FM Yeslick]

There are only 2 puzzles remaining. Look at the size of this night chat

[FM Valygar]

I can't format it, but these would be my questions:
1) Was the headstone cracked by an object?
2) Did the skeleton attempt to fight back?
3) Was the man looking in the mirror when he died?

[FM Valygar]

There are only 2 puzzles remaining. Look at the size of this night chat
There is another T3 I believe

[FM Kivan]

There the RP hinted. An obsidian dagger and a hand mirror with a frame of ivory. Either mazzy got the hand mirror or Ajantis lied. There is another item.

It may be true, but it also can be just part of the riddle. But I wonder why young man needs a mirror:p

[FM Kivan]

1) Was the headstone cracked by an object?
2) Did the skeleton attempt to fight back?
3) Was the man looking in the mirror when he died?

Formatted.

[FM Yeslick]

There is another T3 I believe

T3?

[FM Valygar]

There is another T3 I believe
I mean to say there is a T3 that is not unlocked yet: the players are split between a T2 and T3 I would guess

[FM Keldorn]

Oh crap, formatting requirements... I'll be a bit before I ask anything: I need my computer.

Ask away, we can format it properly for you. color code is COLOR="#EE82EE".
Does this skeleton belong to you?
Does the skeleton and the grave belong to different persons?
Was the person this graves belongs to murdered? If yes, was the obsidian dagger the killing weapon?
Did the person this skeleton belongs to commit suicide?

[FM Haer-Dalis]

It may be true, but it also can be just part of the riddle. But I wonder why young man needs a mirror:p

On that note.

Is the Skeleton a Male?
followup question
Is the Skeleton a Female?

[FM Yeslick]

Ghost confirmed to be Bhaal.

[FM Kivan]

Well, damn, do we know any other names? Perhaps ghost is nameless.

[FM Kivan]

On that note.

Is the Skeleton a Male?
followup question
Is the Skeleton a Female?

...I think most people would only ask one of those and figure out the rest:P

[FM Coran]

Omg I just don't know where to start with this.

Too much question has already being asked......

[FM Yeslick]

Did the Ghost delete his answer? I don't see it anymore.

Are you Bhaal?

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Well, damn, do we know any other names? Perhaps ghost is nameless.

Is your name Casavir?

Also. lol that was a fail on my part. I wasn't thinking when I asked the 2nd question.

[FM Coran]

Did the Ghost delete his answer? I don't see it anymore.

Are you Bhaal?

There was an answer?

[FM Keldorn]

This is awkward... Imoen! Where are you? I could swear that I just heard her read the puzzle out loud. Maybe we have to ponder our words or we will be spirited away.
Zero of the people mentioned in the RP are actually here.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Did you betray the cult of Bhaal?

[FM Coran]

Are you the one that murdered this man/woman?

[FM Ghost]

Is this the grave of the High Priest?

No.


Was the High Priest's name Sand?

No.


Is your name Sand, Qara, Ammon, Neeshka, Khelgar or Grobnar?

No.


Is that a grave of Sand, Qara, Ammon, Neeshka, Khelgar or Grobnar?

Yes.


Were you killed by another person?

No.


Ghost, do you want us to do something for you?

Yes.


Ghost, were you murdered by the Cult of Bhaal?

No.


Ghost, did you have a high position among Cult of Bhaal?

No.

[FM Coran]

This night will be slow if we must wait for the ghost answer...

And we can't go further if he don't answer...

I wonder if I can ask this...

Is the mirror with the Ivory frame an item required form the main puzzle?

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Is this the grave of Ammon?

More in Depth now.

[FM Yeslick]

Is that the grave of Sand?

[FM Coran]

oh well... here's the answer x)

Is your name elanee?

That one has not been asked so far.

[FM Kivan]

Is that a grave of Sand?

Ha ,got first "yes" answers:D

[FM Xan]

Is that the grave of Sand?
Is that the grave of Qara?
Is that the grave of Ammon?
Is that the grave of Neeshka?
Is that the grave of Khelgar?
Is that the grave of Grobnar?

[FM Coran]

Is that the grave of Sand?
Is that the grave of Qara?
Is that the grave of Ammon?
Is that the grave of Neeshka?
Is that the grave of Khelgar?
Is that the grave of Grobnar?

Not cool dude... keeping all the question for yourself...-_-

[FM Xan]

Does the skeleton belong to the entity buried in the grave?
Was the skeleton killed by the cult of Bhaal?
Was the person in the grave killed by the cult of Bhaal?

[FM Yeslick]

Would you like us to figure out how you died?

Would you like us to figure out how that dead guy died?

[FM Xan]

Ghost, were you part of the cult of Bhaal?

[FM Xan]

Is the skeleton the same guy as the guy in the grave? Or is the skeleton supposed to be in the grave? And how should Xan word that as a question?

[FM Kivan]

Do you have some unresolved issues here?

Do you want us help you get to the other side?

[FM Ghost]

1) Was the headstone cracked by an object?
2) Did the skeleton attempt to fight back?
3) Was the man looking in the mirror when he died?

Yes.
No.
*remains silent*.


Does this skeleton belong to you?
Does the skeleton and the grave belong to different persons?
Was the person this graves belongs to murdered? If yes, was the obsidian dagger the killing weapon?
Did the person this skeleton belongs to commit suicide?

Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
No.
Yes.


Is the Skeleton a Male?
Is the Skeleton a Female?

Yes.
No.


Are you Bhaal?

No.


Is your name Casavir?

No.


Did you betray the cult of Bhaal?

No.


Are you the one that murdered this man/woman?

Yes.

[FM Xan]

Ghost, do you know the person in the grave?
Ghost, do you know the skeleton?
Ghost, do you know any of the people here?
Ghost, do any of the players here know you?

[FM Yeslick]

Did you murder him out of self defense?

[FM Xan]

The story so far:
The grave belongs to Sand, Qara, Ammon, Neeshka, Khelgar or Grobnar.
The ghost wants us to do something for him.
The headstone was cracked by an object.
The skeleton attempted to fight back.
The skeleton is male.
The ghost murdered the skeleton.

[FM Coran]

So, Skeleton is a male, got murdered by the ghost... interesting.

My question was useful! YES!!! (More than Kivan's...)

[FM Xan]

Did an obsidian dagger crack the headstone?
Did the mirror crack the headstone?
Ghost, do you know the solution to this puzzle?
Is the crack in the headstone in any way relevant to the solution of this puzzle?

[FM Kivan]

Jaheira and Kagain still mentioned in roleplay.

Did you kill this man because of greed?

Did you kill this man because someone told you to?

Did you kill this man because of envy?

[FM Kivan]

We have to establish a motive for the crime. I bet ghost wants forgiveness.

[FM Xan]

Ghost, do you seek forgiveness?

[FM Coran]

Did killing this man was an assassination contract?

If it was an assassination contract, do you know who sent the contract?

[FM Xan]

Ghost, are you happy you killed this man?

[FM Xan]

The grave belongs to the skeleton. The skeleton is not buried in the grave. This is certainly notable.

[FM Xan]

Ghost, was this man killed within the past four days?

[FM Coran]

Was the man you killed your friend?
Was the man you killed a member of your family?

[FM Ghost]

Is the mirror with the Ivory frame an item required form the main puzzle?

*remains silent*


Is this the grave of Ammon?

Yes.


Is that the grave of Sand?

No.


Is your name elanee?

No.


Is that a grave of Sand?

No.


Is that the grave of Sand?
Is that the grave of Qara?
Is that the grave of Ammon?
Is that the grave of Neeshka?
Is that the grave of Khelgar?
Is that the grave of Grobnar?

No.
No.
Yes.
No.
No.
No.


Does the skeleton belong to the entity buried in the grave?
Was the skeleton killed by the cult of Bhaal?
Was the person in the grave killed by the cult of Bhaal?

No.
No.
No.


Would you like us to figure out how you died?

Would you like us to figure out how that dead guy died?

Yes.
Yes.


Ghost, were you part of the cult of Bhaal?

Yes.


Do you have some unresolved issues here?

Do you want us help you get to the other side?

Yes.
Yes.

[FM Coran]

I bet the answer is to bury the skeleton.

Do you want us to bury the skeleton?

[FM Xan]

Is Ammon buried in the grave?
Does the skeleton belong to Ammon?

[FM Keldorn]

Do you want us to reveal a secret?
Do you want us to enact revenge?
Was the skeleton ever in the grave?

[FM Xan]

Did the skeleton fight you with the obsidian dagger?
Did the skeleton fight you with the mirror?

[FM Xan]

“You did not see the grand scheme of things.
You heard, but did not listen.
Now you lie here.
Soon with none to remember you.
We all are pawns in life and in death.
Even I.
Even you.”

The carver of the headstone are pawns in life and death.

Did you carve the headstone?

[FM Yeslick]

Did you kill him by Physical means?

[FM Xan]

Xan is confused now. Ghost seems to be giving conflicting answers as to whether the person in the grave is the same as the skeleton.

Is the grave occupied?
Is the person who the tombstone is speaking to dead?

[FM Ghost]

Ghost, do you know the person in the grave?
Ghost, do you know the skeleton?
Ghost, do you know any of the people here?
Ghost, do any of the players here know you?

Yes.
*remains silent*
Yes.
*remains silent*


Did you murder him out of self defense?

No.


Did an obsidian dagger crack the headstone?
Did the mirror crack the headstone?
Ghost, do you know the solution to this puzzle?
Is the crack in the headstone in any way relevant to the solution of this puzzle?

*remains silent*
*remains silent*
*remains silent*
No.


Did you kill this man because of greed?

Did you kill this man because someone told you to?

Did you kill this man because of envy?

No.
No.
No.


Ghost, do you seek forgiveness?

Yes.


Did killing this man was an assassination contract?

If it was an assassination contract, do you know who sent the contract?

No.
*remains silent*


Ghost, are you happy you killed this man?

No.


Ghost, was this man killed within the past four days?

No.


Was the man you killed your friend?
Was the man you killed a member of your family?

Yes.
No.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Ghost were you sent by the cult of bhaal to kill Ammon because he betrayed you?

[FM Keldorn]

Answer got edited!
He is the skeleton and committed suicide.
Ammon was murdered.

Did you murder Ammon?
Did you suicide out of remorse?

[FM Coran]

So I guess he killed his friend because it was an order from the cult of bhaal...

Did the cult of bhaal asked you to kill him?

[FM Keldorn]

Was Ammon your Mentor?
Did you kill him because you thought it was the right thing to do?

[FM Ghost]

Do you want us to bury the skeleton?

No.


Is Ammon buried in the grave?
Does the skeleton belong to Ammon?

Yes.
No.


Do you want us to reveal a secret?
Do you want us to enact revenge?
Was the skeleton ever in the grave?

No.
No.
No.


Did the skeleton fight you with the obsidian dagger?
Did the skeleton fight you with the mirror?

No.
No.


Did you carve the headstone?

No.


Did you kill him by Physical means?

No.


Is the grave occupied?
Is the person who the tombstone is speaking to dead?

Yes.
Yes.

[FM Xan]

Is that the skeleton of Sand?
Is that the skeleton of Qara?
Is that the skeleton of Ammon?
Is that the skeleton of Neeshka?
Is that the skeleton of Khelgar?
Is that the skeleton of Grobnar?

[FM Ghost]

Ghost were you sent by the cult of bhaal to kill Ammon because he betrayed you?

No.


Did you murder Ammon?
Did you suicide out of remorse?

Yes.
Yes.


Did the cult of bhaal asked you to kill him?

No.


Was Ammon your Mentor?
Did you kill him because you thought it was the right thing to do?

No.
*remains silent*

[FM Kivan]

Did your friend asked you to kill him?

Did you kill him in the act of mercy?

Was he on the edge of death when you killed him?

Did you fight with your friend before he died?

Did someone control you and made you kill him?

[FM Xan]

Was Ammon a part of the Cult of Bhaal?
Did you kill the skeleton?
Did you kill the entity in the grave?

[FM Keldorn]

Is the way you killed Ammon of relevance?

[FM Yeslick]

Was it euthanasia?

[FM Ghost]

Is that the skeleton of Sand?
Is that the skeleton of Qara?
Is that the skeleton of Ammon?
Is that the skeleton of Neeshka?
Is that the skeleton of Khelgar?
Is that the skeleton of Grobnar?

No.
No.
No.
No.
No.
No.

[FM Coran]

So...
The ghost killed Ammon
Ammon was his friend
Ammon is in the tomb
The ghost committed suicide
The ghost is the skeleton.
The ghost was a member of the cult of bhaal.

Did I forgot something so far?



Was Ammon in the cult of Bhaal too?

[FM Keldorn]

Did you suicide because of some other reason than killing Ammon?

[FM Yeslick]

So...
The ghost killed Ammon
Ammon was his friend
Ammon is in the tomb
The ghost committed suicide
The ghost is the skeleton.
The ghost was a member of the cult of bhaal.

Did I forgot something so far?



Was Ammon in the cult of Bhaal too?

The Ghost killed Ammon with magic.

[FM Coran]

Was Ammon a part of the Cult of Bhaal?
Did you kill the skeleton?
Did you kill the entity in the grave?

Second and third was already answered...

The ghost IS the skeleton and killed the guy in the tomb (Ammon)

[FM Ghost]

Did your friend asked you to kill him?

Did you kill him in the act of mercy?

Was he on the edge of death when you killed him?

Did you fight with your friend before he died?

Did someone control you and made you kill him?

No.
No.
No.
No.
No.


Was Ammon a part of the Cult of Bhaal?
Did you kill the skeleton?
Did you kill the entity in the grave?

Yes.
Yes.
Yes.


Is the way you killed Ammon of relevance?

Yes.


Was it euthanasia?

No.

[FM Coran]

The Ghost killed Ammon with magic.

Oh right, no physical weapon were used to kill Ammon.

Good point.


Thanks

[FM Ghost]

Was Ammon in the cult of Bhaal too?

Yes.


Did you suicide because of some other reason than killing Ammon?

No.

[FM Coran]

Did you kill him with fire?

[FM Kivan]

Our Lord shall return.
It has been written.
The wicked shall burn.
The righteous are smitten.
Ammon the wicked.
Betrayer of Bhaal.
Tis time he was silenced.
Fore he ruins us all.
-Grobnar the Great

I think this can help.

Did you die in war?

Did Ammon do something that enraged Cult of Bhaal?

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Did Ammon betray the cult?

[FM Keldorn]

Did you kill Ammon by poison?
Did you kill Ammon by use of magic?

[FM Yeslick]

Was your spell a surprise attack?

[FM Kivan]

Hmm...Did you kill most people in this graveyard?

[FM Coran]

Did you betray the cult?
Did Ammon tried to stop you?
Was his dead an accident?

[FM Keldorn]

Do you seek Ammon's forgiveness?
Do you seek the forgiveness of somebody still living?
Is there a certain person or a certain group of person whose forgiveness you seek?

[FM Ghost]

Did you kill him with fire?

Yes.


Did you die in war?

Did Ammon do something that enraged Cult of Bhaal?

No.
No.


Did Ammon betray the cult?

Yes.


Did you kill Ammon by poison?
Did you kill Ammon by use of magic?

No.
No.

[FM Keldorn]

Was Ammon close to you?

[FM Keldorn]

Is the location where you burned him of relevance?

[FM Coran]

Was Ammon close to you?

His friend.

[FM Ghost]

Was your spell a surprise attack?

*remains silent*


Did you kill most people in this graveyard?

*remains silent*


Did you betray the cult?
Did Ammon tried to stop you?
Was his dead an accident?

No.
No.
No.


Do you seek Ammon's forgiveness?
Do you seek the forgiveness of somebody still living?
Is there a certain person or a certain group of person whose forgiveness you seek?

Yes.
No.
Yes.

[FM Ghost]

Was Ammon close to you?

Yes.


Is the location where you burned him of relevance?

Yes.

[FM Coran]

Were you the one that reported to the cult Ammon's betrayal?

[FM Keldorn]

Did you kill Ammon out of your free will?
Would you do it again if you had another chance?
Did you kill him at a place both of you frequently visited?

[FM Ghost]

Were you the one that reported to the cult Ammon's betrayal?

Yes.

[FM Coran]

Was Ammon burned in the graveyard?
Was Ammon burned in the inner santum?

[FM Yeslick]

Did Ammon harm another living member of the Cult of Bhaal?
Did Ammon desecrate a sacred object of the Cult of Bhaal?
Did Ammon descecrate the grave of a member of the Cult of Bhaal?

[FM Ghost]

Did you kill Ammon out of your free will?
Would you do it again if you had another chance?
Did you kill him at a place both of you frequently visited?

Yes.
No.
*remains silent*

[FM Coran]

ok so he feel bad because he's the one that reported Ammon's betrayal to the cult.(His friend)
Then the cult must have asked the ghost to kill the betrayer.

[FM Ghost]

Was Ammon burned in the graveyard?
Was Ammon burned in the inner santum?

No.
No.


Did Ammon harm another living member of the Cult of Bhaal?
Did Ammon desecrate a sacred object of the Cult of Bhaal?
Did Ammon descecrate the grave of a member of the Cult of Bhaal?

No.
No.
No.

[FM Keldorn]

Is there a way for us to make Ammon aware of that you seek his forgiveness?
Do you want us to do that?

[FM Coran]

ok so he feel bad because he's the one that reported Ammon's betrayal to the cult.(His friend)
Then the cult must have asked the ghost to kill the betrayer.

nevermind, He killed Ammon out of his free will... >.>

[FM Yeslick]

Well that's balls. No doubt, we need to figure out how Ammon betrayed the Cult of Bhaal as part of the solution

[FM Yeslick]

Did Ammon leak confidential information of the Cult?
Did Ammon question his faith in Bhaal?

[FM Ghost]

Is there a way for us to make Ammon aware of that you seek his forgiveness?
Do you want us to do that?

No.
No.

[FM Coran]

Did Ammon's betrayal was to kill another member of the cult?
Was that other member your friend?
Was that other member your lover?
Was that other member part of your family?

[FM Keldorn]

Did you lay a trap to kill Ammon?
Did you overpower Ammon before burning him?
Was Ammon a follower of Cyric?

[FM Coran]

We are on the right way to find the solution. (I hope!)

This is much better than the satyr's gate x)

[FM Ghost]

Did Ammon leak confidential information of the Cult?
Did Ammon question his faith in Bhaal?

No.
No.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Did Ammon attempt to execute/kill Sand?

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Did Ammon hate Sand?

[FM Ghost]

Did you lay a trap to kill Ammon?
Did you overpower Ammon before burning him?
Was Ammon a follower of Cyric?

No.
No.
No.

[FM Yeslick]

Did Ammon decide to take actions that he wasn't at liberty to take?
Was Ammon taken out the same day he betrayed the Cult?

[FM Keldorn]

Were there relevant collaterals when you killed Ammon?
Was Ammon a Bhaalspawn?

[FM Ghost]

Did Ammon attempt to execute/kill Sand?

No.


Did Ammon hate Sand?

No.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Did Ammon attempt to overthrow the High Priest?

[FM Ghost]

Did Ammon decide to take actions that he wasn't at liberty to take?
Was Ammon taken out the same day he betrayed the Cult?

Yes.
No.


Were there relevant collaterals when you killed Ammon?
Was Ammon a Bhaalspawn?

Yes.
No.

[FM Coran]

Were there relevant collaterals when you killed Ammon?
Was Ammon a Bhaalspawn?

sometime I think that you do not read what's going on...
It's the third time you ask question that has been already answered... Ammon was a member of the cult.

[FM Ghost]

Did Ammon attempt to overthrow the High Priest?

Yes.

[FM Coran]

HEY GHOST!

You forgot to answer my question ^^

Did Ammon's betrayal was to kill another member of the cult?
Was that other member your friend?
Was that other member your lover?
Was that other member part of your family?

[FM Keldorn]

Did Ammon not follow the rules of the Cult of Bhaal?
Did that warrant his death?

[FM Coran]

HEY GHOST!

You forgot to answer my question ^^

Did Ammon's betrayal was to kill another member of the cult?
Was that other member your friend?
Was that other member your lover?
Was that other member part of your family?


...

Did Ammon's betrayal was to kill another member of the cult?
Was that other member your friend?
Was that other member your lover?
Was that other member part of your family?

[FM Keldorn]

sometime I think that you do not read what's going on...
It's the third time you ask question that has been already answered... Ammon was a member of the cult.
Oh excuse me! Maybe it didn't pass your mind that he could be both?

[FM Ghost]

Did Ammon not follow the rules of the Cult of Bhaal?
Did that warrant his death?

*remain silent*
*remain silent*

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Ok.

The Grave is the Grave of Ammon
Ammon Betrayed the cult of Bhaal by attempting to overthrow the high priest.
The Ghost was a member of the cult who went and killed Ammon with fire for Ammon betraying the cult.
Then after The ghost killed Ammon he commited Suicide.

[FM Yeslick]

Was Ammon taken out less than 7 days after his betrayal?

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Ghost is your name Bishop?
Did you betray the trust of your friend?

[FM Keldorn]

Was the High Priest a true follower of Bhaal?

[FM Yeslick]

Did you commit suicide by magical means?

[FM Coran]

Oh excuse me! Maybe it didn't pass your mind that he could be both?

It's obvious that he can't ...

Oh well... better asking than stay quiet.

[FM Ghost]

Did Ammon's betrayal was to kill another member of the cult?
Was that other member your friend?
Was that other member your lover?
Was that other member part of your family?

Yes.
No.
No.
No.

[FM Keldorn]

It's obvious that he can't ...

Oh well... better asking than stay quiet.
How exactly is that obvious? It's even possible in this very game.

[FM Keldorn]

Did Ammon attempt to take the High Priest's life?
Did he succeed?

[FM Ghost]

Was Ammon taken out less than 7 days after his betrayal?

Yes.


Ghost is your name Bishop?
Did you betray the trust of your friend?

Yes.
Yes.


Was the High Priest a true follower of Bhaal?

No.


Did you commit suicide by magical means?

No.

[FM Ghost]

Did Ammon attempt to take the High Priest's life?
Did he succeed?

Yes.
No.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

ha so the ghost is Bishop and that is where Ajantis' clue came in. Now we need to find out why Ammon wanted to try and take the high priest's life.

[FM Kivan]

Did Ammon saw you before he died?

Did you start a fire in his house?

Did the fire catch him off guard?



I'm going to sleep, ask a lot of questions!:)

[FM Keldorn]

Did you not know that the High Priest wasn't a true follower of Bhaal when you killed Ammon?
Is that the reason you feel remorse for kill Ammon?

[FM Yeslick]

Did you use the Obsidian Dagger to end your life?
Did you stab yourself?
Was Ammon killed less than 3 days after he betrayed the Cult?

[FM Coran]

How exactly is that obvious? It's even possible in this very game.

A Bhaalspawn doesn't keep his Bhaalspawn state when he get converted to the cult... Key word her is "Converted".

So one cannot be Bhaalspawn and cult at the same time.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

The High Priest is a blight on our place of worship. He knows not of what he speaks. Everything he teaches us - his disciples - about the rites is the opposite of what it should be. He makes a mockery of our faith and I won’t stand for it. All they tell is lies. Bishop is the only one worthy of trust. Our God may have fallen, but he shall rise to depose this trickster that calls himself Cyric. Tomorrow I shall bring about the charlatan’s demise and take the reins to set things right, so we may prepare for His return...

Here is the clue also so we can use it as reference.

[FM Kivan]

Awww, Ajantis' clue is legit. What a crap:P

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Was the High Priest giving false teachings?

[FM Coran]

ha so the ghost is Bishop and that is where Ajantis' clue came in. Now we need to find out why Ammon wanted to try and take the high priest's life.

That mean Ajantis clue was not faked...no?

[FM Kivan]

The High Priest is a blight on our place of worship. He knows not of what he speaks. Everything he teaches us - his disciples - about the rites is the opposite of what it should be. He makes a mockery of our faith and I won’t stand for it. All they tell is lies. Bishop is the only one worthy of trust. Our God may have fallen, but he shall rise to depose this trickster that calls himself Cyric. Tomorrow I shall bring about the charlatan’s demise and take the reins to set things right, so we may prepare for His return...

Did Ammon write those words?

[FM Ghost]

Did Ammon saw you before he died?

Did you start a fire in his house?

Did the fire catch him off guard?

No.
No.
Yes.


Did you not know that the High Priest wasn't a true follower of Bhaal when you killed Ammon?
Is that the reason you feel remorse for kill Ammon?

*remains silent*
*remains silent*

[FM Haer-Dalis]

That mean Ajantis clue was not faked...no?
Yea the text is all real.

Doesn't mean he couldn't have cut out extra parts. For now though lets use it to our advantage.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

I gotta say that I like being in this puzzle chat.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Is Cyric the High Priest's Name?
Is Cyric a false-acclaimed title of the High Priest?
Was the high Priest Secretly sabotaging the Cult?
Was the high priest saying that he was their god?
Was the high priest saying he was more powerful than Bhaal?

[FM Keldorn]

Did Ammon tell you that he plans to take out the High Priest and you rat him out?
Did you take him out before he could follow through?
Was Ammon restrained when you burned him?

[FM Coran]

Did the high priest betrayed you?

If it's the case that mean he feel bad for killing his friend because in the end, his friend was right.

[FM Keldorn]

Were you close to the High Priest?
Were you a true follower of Bhaal?

[FM Khalid]

Wow, have I missed a lot. Also what was Anomen...

Did you lure Ammon to this graveyard?
Did you kill Ammon here?
Did you lure or otherwise bring Ammon to the graveyard with the intention of killing him?
Did killing Ammon prevent him from carrying out any actions?
Were you rewarded for killing Ammon?
Did you dig the grave?
Did Ammon dig the grave?
Did you ask or otherwise cause Ammon to dig the grave?
Was Ammon burnt in the grave?
Did Ammon die in this graveyard?
Did you set up the fire/what was needed to burn him prior to you both visiting the graveyard?

[FM Yeslick]

Anomen was an Explorer

[FM Keldorn]

Interestingly Bishop was aware of the foulness of the High Priest and still followed through in killing Ammon.

[FM Yeslick]

I have homework the rest of the night. Latess

[FM Khalid]

Sorry to do this...

Did you know Korgan?
Did you know Alora?
Did you know Keldorn?
Did you know Coran?
Did you know Yeslick?
Did you know Ajantis?
Did you know Kivan?
Did you know Khalid?
Did you know Xan?
Did you know Haer-Dalis?
Did you know Valygar?
Did you know Faldorn?
Did you know Yoshimo?
Did you know Garrick?

[FM Coran]

Anomen was an Explorer

How do you know that?

I don't see the host's post yet...

[FM Keldorn]

Anomen was an Explorer
Oh, the graveyard. I was stalking the end of day post. But not what I expected.

[FM Khalid]

Did you hang yourself?
Did you suicide through a physical injury?
Did you stab yourself?
Did you suicide straight after Ammon's death?
Did you suicide within an hour of killing Ammon?
Did you speak or see anyone between Ammon's death and your own?
Was anyone else present in the graveyard when Ammon died?
Did anyone witness Ammon's death?
Were you present when Ammon died?
Did the High Priest witness Ammon's death?
Was Bhaal pleased with your murder of Ammon?

I love these kind of puzzles :D

[FM Keldorn]

Our ghost seems to have grown tired. Time to compile what we got.

[FM Khalid]

Also hell guys we just lynched another Explorer...

[FM Coran]

Just saying... the Ghost is not here anymore.

[FM Coran]

Also...


Did you hang yourself?
Did you suicide through a physical injury?
Did you stab yourself?
Did you suicide straight after Ammon's death?
Did you suicide within an hour of killing Ammon?
Did you speak or see anyone between Ammon's death and your own?
Was anyone else present in the graveyard when Ammon died?
Did anyone witness Ammon's death? This was answered - Yes
Were you present when Ammon died? This was answered - Yes - He's the one who killed Ammon.
Did the High Priest witness Ammon's death?
Was Bhaal pleased with your murder of Ammon?

I love these kind of puzzles :D

[FM Khalid]

Yeah I see that...well darn.
We do have quite a bit so far, but the next set of answers will probably be quite enlightening I imagine.

Remember everyone we need to figure out every element of the puzzle, so don't get complacent.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Our ghost seems to have grown tired. Time to compile what we got.

We are at the Grave of Ammon
Ammon Betrayed the Cult of Bhaal
Unknown Why he Betrayed the Cult
The Skeleton/Ghost is Bishop
Bishop betrayed Ammon's trust and killed Ammon
Ammon was killed with Fire
Bishop suicided out of Despair for killing Ammon

[FM Khalid]

Also...

I read through but didn't see those answered explicitly. Just making sure he was in fact present when it happened, but thanks. I try to be very explicit with questions on these kind of puzzles, usually you can easily trick yourself or miss something because of wording

[FM Haer-Dalis]

We are at the Grave of Ammon
Ammon Betrayed the Cult of Bhaal
Ammon tried to kill the High Priest
Unknown Why he Betrayed the CultThe High Priest did something Ammon didn't like
The Skeleton/Ghost is Bishop
Bishop betrayed Ammon's trust and killed Ammon
Ammon was killed with Fire
Bishop suicided out of Despair for killing Ammon

Fixed

[FM Khalid]

Was there a reason Ammon would expect fire when you killed him?
Was Ammon taken by surprise upon the realization the fire would kill him/was meant to kill him?

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Did Ammon say departing words to you which made you grieve then suicide?

[FM Keldorn]

Remember that the questions are answered from the Ghost's perspective.

[FM Coran]

I'm done for tonight. Will be back tomorrow.

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Did Ammon own the Obsidian Dagger and the Mirror?

[FM Khalid]

Are the mirror and dagger relevant?
Did you bring those items to the graveyard?
Did Ammon bring those items to the graveyard?
Were those items present with the intention of performing a ritual?

[FM Haer-Dalis]

Are the mirror and dagger relevant?
Did you bring those items to the graveyard?
Did Ammon bring those items to the graveyard?
Were those items present with the intention of performing a ritual?

Adding onto this.

Was Ammon going to perform the rituals to weaken the cult of Bhaal so he could kill the High Priest?

[FM Khalid]

Apologies ghost btdubs, I'm queueing questions as I think of them in the event that I'm not present when you return.

[FM Khalid]

While we wait, I'd like to add that the flip of Anomen as explorer was quite disheartening...needless to say, Ajantis and Faldorn look mighty suspicious, along with whomever pushed the lynch trains onto such a course.
I additionally agree with Korgan and believe Alora was doppelgang-ed.

[FM Khalid]

Nalia too I should add.

[FM Khalid]

Also a large portion of this list has not yet said anything, so hopefully they contribute soon! I find it mighty suspicious when one does not wish for the puzzle to be solved...

[FM Garrick]

FM Garrick is here! FM Garrick has a hard time with this type of puzzle.

FM Faldorn

[FM Garrick]

FM Nalia (5 [L-10]): FM Imoen, FM Haer-Dalis, FM Branwen, FM Garrick, FM Khalid

These are the people FM Garrick thinks are not cultists.

[FM Ajantis]

The story so far:
The skeleton attempted to fight back.

No.

[FM Ajantis]

Was Ammon the High Priest?
Was the skeleton the High Priest?
Are you Bishop?
Are you the High Priest?

Someone please make a summary. I'm lost.

[FM Ajantis]

Guys... use Kheldorn and my clue as the basis for questions.

[FM Ajantis]

I think the Ghost/Skeleton smote himself with the Dagger. Keldorn's clue?

[FM Valygar]

I'm back. I think I'm gonna compile all of the questions that have been answered, and then I am going to pursue a line of questioning regarding the location where he was burned.

[FM Valygar]

Is this the grave of the High Priest? No.
Was the High Priest's name Sand? No.
Is your name Sand, Qara, Ammon, Neeshka, Khelgar or Grobnar? No.
Is that a grave of Sand, Qara, Ammon, Neeshka, Khelgar or Grobnar? Yes.
Were you killed by another person? No.
Ghost, do you want us to do something for you? Yes.
Ghost, were you murdered by the Cult of Bhaal? No.
Ghost, did you have a high position among Cult of Bhaal? No.
Was the headstone cracked by an object? Yes.
Did the skeleton attempt to fight back? No.
Was the man looking in the mirror when he died?
Does this skeleton belong to you? Yes.
Does the skeleton and the grave belong to different persons? Yes.
Was the person this graves belongs to murdered? Yes.
If yes, was the obsidian dagger the killing weapon? No.
Did the person this skeleton belongs to commit suicide? Yes.
Is the Skeleton a Male? Yes.
Is the Skeleton a Female? No.
Are you Bhaal? No.
Is your name Casavir? No.
Did you betray the cult of Bhaal? No.
Are you the one that murdered this man/woman? Yes.
Is the mirror with the Ivory frame an item required form the main puzzle?
Is this the grave of Ammon? Yes.
Is that the grave of Sand? No.
Is your name elanee? No.
Is that a grave of Sand? No.
Is that the grave of Sand? No.
Is that the grave of Qara? No.
Is that the grave of Ammon? Yes.
Is that the grave of Neeshka? No.
Is that the grave of Khelgar? No.
Is that the grave of Grobnar? No.
Does the skeleton belong to the entity buried in the grave? No.
Was the skeleton killed by the cult of Bhaal? No.
Was the person in the grave killed by the cult of Bhaal? No.
Would you like us to figure out how you died? Yes.
Would you like us to figure out how that dead guy died? Yes.
Ghost, were you part of the cult of Bhaal? Yes.
Do you have some unresolved issues here? Yes.
Do you want us help you get to the other side? Yes.
Ghost, do you know the person in the grave? Yes.
Ghost, do you know the skeleton?
Ghost, do you know any of the people here? Yes.
Ghost, do any of the players here know you?
Did you murder him out of self defense? No.
Did an obsidian dagger crack the headstone?
Did the mirror crack the headstone?
Ghost, do you know the solution to this puzzle?
Is the crack in the headstone in any way relevant to the solution of this puzzle? No.
Did you kill this man because of greed? No.
Did you kill this man because someone told you to? No.
Did you kill this man because of envy? No.
Ghost, do you seek forgiveness? Yes.
Did killing this man was an assassination contract? No.
If it was an assassination contract, do you know who sent the contract?
Ghost, are you happy you killed this man? No.
Ghost, was this man killed within the past four days? No.
Was the man you killed your friend? Yes.
Was the man you killed a member of your family? No.
Do you want us to bury the skeleton? No.
Is Ammon buried in the grave? Yes.
Does the skeleton belong to Ammon? No.
Do you want us to reveal a secret? No.
Do you want us to enact revenge? No.
Was the skeleton ever in the grave? No.
Did the skeleton fight you with the obsidian dagger? No.
Did the skeleton fight you with the mirror? No.
Did you carve the headstone? No.
Did you kill him by Physical means? No.
Is the grave occupied? Yes.
Is the person who the tombstone is speaking to dead? Yes.
Ghost were you sent by the cult of bhaal to kill Ammon because he betrayed you? No.
Did you murder Ammon? Yes.
Did you suicide out of remorse? Yes.
Did the cult of bhaal asked you to kill him? No.
Was Ammon your Mentor? No.
Did you kill him because you thought it was the right thing to do?
Is that the skeleton of Sand? No.
Is that the skeleton of Qara? No.
Is that the skeleton of Ammon? No.
Is that the skeleton of Neeshka? No.
Is that the skeleton of Khelgar? No.
Is that the skeleton of Grobnar? No.
Did your friend asked you to kill him? No.
Did you kill him in the act of mercy? No.
Was he on the edge of death when you killed him? No.
Did you fight with your friend before he died? No.
Did someone control you and made you kill him? No.
Was Ammon a part of the Cult of Bhaal? Yes.
Did you kill the skeleton? Yes.
Did you kill the entity in the grave? Yes.
Is the way you killed Ammon of relevance? Yes.
Was it euthanasia? No.
Was Ammon in the cult of Bhaal too? Yes.
Did you suicide because of some other reason than killing Ammon? No.
Did you kill him with fire? Yes.
Did you die in war? No.
Did Ammon do something that enraged Cult of Bhaal? No.
Did Ammon betray the cult? Yes.
Did you kill Ammon by poison? No.
Did you kill Ammon by use of magic? No.
Was your spell a surprise attack?
Did you kill most people in this graveyard?
Did you betray the cult? No.
Did Ammon tried to stop you? No.
Was his dead an accident? No.
Do you seek Ammon's forgiveness? Yes.
Do you seek the forgiveness of somebody still living? No.
Is there a certain person or a certain group of person whose forgiveness you seek? Yes.
Was Ammon close to you? Yes.
Is the location where you burned him of relevance? Yes.
Were you the one that reported to the cult Ammon's betrayal? Yes.
Did you kill Ammon out of your free will? Yes.
Would you do it again if you had another chance? No.
Did you kill him at a place both of you frequently visited?
Was Ammon burned in the graveyard? No.
Was Ammon burned in the inner santum? No.
Did Ammon harm another living member of the Cult of Bhaal? No.
Did Ammon desecrate a sacred object of the Cult of Bhaal? No.
Did Ammon descecrate the grave of a member of the Cult of Bhaal? No.
Is there a way for us to make Ammon aware of that you seek his forgiveness? No.
Do you want us to do that? No.
Did Ammon leak confidential information of the Cult? No.
Did Ammon question his faith in Bhaal? No.
Did you lay a trap to kill Ammon? No.
Did you overpower Ammon before burning him? No.
Was Ammon a follower of Cyric? No.
Did Ammon attempt to execute/kill Sand? No.
Did Ammon hate Sand? No.
Did Ammon decide to take actions that he wasn't at liberty to take? Yes.
Was Ammon taken out the same day he betrayed the Cult? No.
Were there relevant collaterals when you killed Ammon? Yes.
Was Ammon a Bhaalspawn? No.
Did Ammon attempt to overthrow the High Priest? Yes.
Did Ammon not follow the rules of the Cult of Bhaal?
Did that warrant his death?
Did Ammon's betrayal was to kill another member of the cult? Yes.
Was that other member your friend? No.
Was that other member your lover? No.
Was that other member part of your family? No.
Was Ammon taken out less than 7 days after his betrayal? Yes.
Ghost is your name Bishop? Yes.
Did you betray the trust of your friend? Yes.
Was the High Priest a true follower of Bhaal? No.
Did you commit suicide by magical means? No.
Did Ammon attempt to take the High Priest's life? Yes.
Did he succeed? No.
Did Ammon saw you before he died? No.
Did you start a fire in his house? No.
Did the fire catch him off guard? Yes.
Did you not know that the High Priest wasn't a true follower of Bhaal when you killed Ammon? No.
Is that the reason you feel remorse for kill Ammon? No.

[FM Valygar]

Is the High Priest's name Grobnar?
Was Ammon attempting to perform the Ritual of Destruction?
Was Ammon attempting to perform the Ritual of Retribution?
Was Ammon attempting to perform the Ritual of Evil?
Was Ammon attempting to perform the Ritual of Death?
If the answer to any of the 4 previous questions was 'yes', would Ammon have succeeded without your intervention?

[FM Valygar]

Is the High Priest's name Grobnar?
Was Ammon attempting to perform the Ritual of Destruction?
Was Ammon attempting to perform the Ritual of Retribution?
Was Ammon attempting to perform the Ritual of Evil?
Was Ammon attempting to perform the Ritual of Death?
If the answer to any of the 4 previous questions was 'yes', would Ammon have succeeded without your intervention?

Fixed

[FM Ajantis]

I think I know what happened; the background story. Not nice to say it out now. Hint: Read the setup.

However, I'm still not sure what Bishop intends us to achieve.

If you want me to reveal the spoilers to the background story, please
FM Ajantis

[FM Ajantis]

I applaud Cespenar for such a great background story, if what I is suspected is true. Is it a fanfiction? Seemed more like a real novel.

[FM Valygar]

I think I know what happened; the background story. Not nice to say it out now. Hint: Read the setup.

I see what you're saying: it is cool how the hosts managed to tie in the plot to what we are trying to accomplish as we speak. The Bishop wants us to explain where, how, and why Ammon died as well as the circumstances of his burial, I believe. Based on the setup, I'm guessing he was attempting to solve the main puzzle.

[FM Ajantis]

Is the High Priest's name Grobnar?
Was Ammon attempting to perform the Ritual of Destruction?
Was Ammon attempting to perform the Ritual of Retribution?
Was Ammon attempting to perform the Ritual of Evil?
Was Ammon attempting to perform the Ritual of Death?
If the answer to any of the 4 previous questions was 'yes', would Ammon have succeeded without your intervention?

Fixed

No. But I like this line of thought. Keep asking until the Ghost refuse to answer...
No. Ammon did not that's why he failed...
No.
No.
No.
No. Even Bishop cannot kill the High Priest.

[FM Ajantis]

No. But I like this line of thought. Keep asking until the Ghost refuse to answer...
No. Ammon did not that's why he failed...
No. "
No. "
No. "
No. Even Bishop cannot kill the High Priest.

Correction to avoid misunderstanding... Maybe Bishop can tell us which to perform.

[FM Ajantis]

I'm stupid... the correct ritual to perform requires the two items that are being held by Bishop. *won't say the rest to avoid spoiling the fun*

[FM Valygar]

I'm stupid... the correct ritual to perform requires the two items that are being held by Bishop. *won't say the rest to avoid spoiling the fun*

Ritual of fun is the answer: requires Obsidian Dagger and Ivory Mirror GG

[FM Khalid]

Valygar, thank you ever so much for compiling together all those questions and answers. That saves us a tremendous amount of time.


I think I know what happened; the background story. Not nice to say it out now. Hint: Read the setup.

However, I'm still not sure what Bishop intends us to achieve.

If you want me to reveal the spoilers to the background story, please
FM Ajantis

Are you really that transparent? I think I understand what is going on now; you may in fact be the Thief. I believe you withheld some of your clue yesterday, and now the Sanctum is that much further from being opened.

FM Khalid

This vote is to match Ajantis in the event of a tie with him.

I would appreciate if everyone else does not allow Ajantis to withhold another clue from us. Whether that is through sending me or someone else, don't allow this one to ruin our puzzle solving any further.

Additionally, you are lucky you are heartwarded tonight - due to Diviner checking you, they will be unable to deduce why so many hints appear. All you would have to do is survive tomorrow and solve the puzzle yourself by withholding our precious clues further, and rain down kills on us through the cult.

I do enjoy logic puzzles such as these, and will definitely be around the next day and a half - and will propose the solution in time for the night end. And of course if I am chosen and live, I will reveal the clue instantly unlike this fool.

[FM Khalid]

Did you write the inscription on the headstone?
Does the inscription refer to you and Ammon?
Is the headstone inscription written in first person by you talking to Ammon?
Is there an action you wish us to perform?
Is there a ritual you would like us to perform here in the graveyard?
Would you like us to help you with atonement?
Will what you want us to do/figure out cause you to move on from being a ghost/find peace?

[FM Ajantis]

Additionally, you are lucky you are heartwarded tonight - due to Diviner checking you, they will be unable to deduce why so many hints appear.
This is dumb. Why would they even need to deduce this? They only need to know that the clues are real.

I doubt your intentions. You can't even give the correct answer to the clue in N2 after you commended Cernd for drawing the figure. What makes you think you are able to solve this?

Unlike you I already have most of the answers, and was kind enough to let you guys enjoy the puzzle.

[FM Khalid]

Were you even in the same night puzzle as I was night 2? I drew the same conclusions as Mazzy and Cernd on my own, and thus the solution was agreed upon. I did in fact have the correct solution posted, but we were happy going with Keldorn.

But way to get personal. Two can play that game.

And we know you have most of the hints, since you didn't share yours/have some as thief, so it's a good thing Diviner is checking you because you will be on even footing with all of us come tomorrow.

[FM Ajantis]

The hidden Bhaalspawn shall rue the day for not targeting me on N3 when it had the chance to do so. I already said so D3. Now it's too late to stop me.

[FM Khalid]

This is dumb. Why would they even need to deduce this? They only need to know that the clues are real.

I doubt your intentions. You can't even give the correct answer to the clue in N2 after you commended Cernd for drawing the figure. What makes you think you are able to solve this?

Unlike you I already have most of the answers, and was kind enough to let you guys enjoy the puzzle.

If diviner checked you alone and discovered a boatload of clues, it would heavily imply you are Thief, and at this point that can be bad for the town, with KPN possibly raised.

[FM Khalid]

Now it's too late to stop me.

...see, this is why you should not be sent to solve puzzles...

[FM Khalid]

Also wow why are we the only ones around, empty graveyard zzz

[FM Ajantis]

LOL are you Safana? I gave 3 hints that I have access to the night puzzle chat. Keldorn even vouched for me.

I'm insulting your analysis.

[FM Ajantis]

...see, this is why you should not be sent to solve puzzles...

Way to ignore the clue that I gave and concentrate on my taunt.

[FM Ajantis]

Did you write the inscription on the headstone?
Does the inscription refer to you and Ammon?
Is the headstone inscription written in first person by you talking to Ammon?
Is there an action you wish us to perform?
Is there a ritual you would like us to perform here in the graveyard?
Would you like us to help you with atonement?
Will what you want us to do/figure out cause you to move on from being a ghost/find peace?

No. Read properly, the inscription is chastising Ammon.
No. Not when the inscription was made. Though it applies to Bishop as well.
No. Since it's not by Bishop.
Yes. Learn the truth and bring down the High Priest.
No. Hint to ritual for weakening the High Priest.
Yes. Kill the High Priest.
*silence*

[FM Faldorn]

Hhaha, Logged on, thought I was dead XD

I will be reading later on today, I have some jobs to do.

[FM Ajantis]

Guide to Avoid Being Culted 101

Be a fucktard so that town wants you dead and cults hate to have you in their team...

[FM Yoshimo]

Hhaha, Logged on, thought I was dead XD


Ditto about the dead part. Rofl.

[FM Keldorn]

Additionally, you are lucky you are heartwarded tonight - due to Diviner checking you, they will be unable to deduce why so many hints appear.
I highly doubt that the Diviner will be "unable" to deduce who provided which clue. Also I think it's safe to assume that the Diviner will retrieve Ajantis' clues. And I definitely believe the Diviner over both of you.


I do enjoy logic puzzles such as these...
This one never seemed to have tasted the true delight of a logic puzzle. This puzzle is, as Cespenar pointed out, a lateral puzzle.


FM Nalia (5 [L-10]): FM Imoen, FM Haer-Dalis, FM Branwen, FM Garrick, FM Khalid

These are the people FM Garrick thinks are not cultists.
Because Cult has a problem to lynch a Bounty Hunter? A Bounty Hunter can pretty much forced into doing Town's bidding because he needs to survive until the very end. Also he is conversion immune which makes it impossible for the Prophet to convert or manipulate him. And he has one auto-vest, meaning Cult would have to use two night kills to get rid of him should he side with the Adventurers.
It is quite clear that Nalia contracted Anomen. How else would he have killed Mazzy. I was wrong about Anomen's role though.


I did in fact have the correct solution posted, but we were happy going with Keldorn.
This was your proposed solution:


-propose solution

Place the painted statues in the following compartments such that the Gods are aligned in this order around the room:


1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
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Torm
Ilmater
Chauntea
Selune
Tymora
Bhaal
Besheba - A red shape of an arrowhead with twisted black antlers on its surface
Shar - A black surface with a purple circle on it
Talona - A purple triangle with three orange drops of water on it
Loviatar - A scourge with nine barbed tails
Bane - A black clenched fist in a glove, with green rays shooting outward from between the fingers


This is a wrong solution...

My summary on what happened:
Here lies the grave of Ammon, member and betrayer of the Cult of Bhaal. And on his grave lie the remains of Bishop, also member of the Cult, who was Ammon's friend but killed him in free will. Ammon tried to overthrow the High Priest who wasn't a true follower of Bhaal by attempting to take his life.
The exact circumstances of Ammon's death are not clear yet but Bishop betrayed Ammon by reporting his activities to the Cult and killed him with fire. Ammon was caught off guard by the fire.
Bishop knew of the High Priest's foulness and killed Bishop regardless of it. The location of Ammon's death is unknown, yet relevant.
Bishop committed suicide out of remorse and seeks Ammon's forgiveness - not revenge for the circumstances of Ammon's death.


Were the relevant collaterals in the fire human life?
Did Ammon have one or more family members relevant to the circumstances of his death?
Are Ammon, the High Priest and you the only persons of relevance?
Is the Inner Sanctum of relevance?
Was Ammon's goal the resurrection of Bhaal?
Is it relevant how you killed yourself?
Is the reason for your suicide that you betrayed and killed Ammon satisfactory?

[FM Yoshimo]

This looks to be progressing pretty well. It's unfortunate that Bishop is an American and sleeps while I am awake.

It's hard to come up with many new questions while there's still so many waiting to be answered.

Did you suicide out of remorse?
Was Ammon more than a friend to you?
Was Ammon related to you?
Was Ammon your lover?
Do you regret the deaths of the collaterals?
Did you suicide because of the deaths of the collaterals?
Can you be redeemed and set to rest for good?
If we solve this puzzle will you stop being a ghost?

[FM Ajantis]

Were the relevant collaterals in the fire human life?
Did Ammon have one or more family members relevant to the circumstances of his death?
Are Ammon, the High Priest and you the only persons of relevance?
Is the Inner Sanctum of relevance?
Was Ammon's goal the resurrection of Bhaal?
Is it relevant how you killed yourself?
Is the reason for your suicide that you betrayed and killed Ammon satisfactory?

No.
No. Bishop was ordered to kill Ammon. Orders are absolute.
Yes. Technically.
Yes. I think...
Yes.
Yes. Check your clue.
No. Bishop was modkilled.

[FM Ajantis]

Did you suicide out of remorse?
Was Ammon more than a friend to you?
Was Ammon related to you?
Was Ammon your lover?
Do you regret the deaths of the collaterals?
Did you suicide because of the deaths of the collaterals?
Can you be redeemed and set to rest for good?
If we solve this puzzle will you stop being a ghost?

No. Why suicide before killing the High Priest?
Yes. They share the same ambition, the resurrection of Bhaal.
No.
No.
No. They are offerings to Bhaal.
No. If anything, the way they died is not flashy enough.
Yes. With the passing of the High Priest.
No.

[FM Keldorn]

Why do you bother answering question in an obviously wrong way?

[FM Korgan]

Korgan comes to the rescue!

Is the Dagger cursed?
Is the Mirror Cursed?
Is the Shovel cursed?
Is the grave stone cursed?
is the Skeleton cursed?
Is the Grave cursed?
Are you cursed?

Did you kill him from behind?
Did you kill him with a fire arrow because you were a ranger while alive?
Do you wish that we bury one of the 2 Artifacts?
Do you wish that we burry the skeleton at the right place?
Do you wish that we destroy the Dagger?
Do you wish that we destroy the Mirror?
Did he steal the Dagger?
Did he steal the Mirror?
Did he grave rob the Dagger?
Did he grave rob the Mirror?
Do you wish that we repair the headstone?
Do you like dwarven ale?
Did you give him the Dagger?
Did you give him the Mirror?
Why are you here? You should be in the wall of souls.
Is the mirror required to summon the Avatar of Bhaal?
Is the Dagger required to summon the Avatar of Bhaal?
Are the Artifacts required for any sort of ritual?
Are the Artifacts considered sacred for the cult of Bhaal?
Is one of the Artifacts required for any sort of ritual?
Is one Artifacts considered sacred for the cult of Bhaal?
Did you kill him with a firetrap?
Was the Grave trapped?
Was the Headstone trapped?
Do you like mudkipz?
Do you like AC/DC?
Are you gay?
Do you know where my car is?
Has your braindeadness something to do with the riddle?
Was the holocaust real?

[FM Ajantis]

Why do you bother answering question in an obviously wrong way?

Elaborate?

[FM Ajantis]

@Korgan
*silence* x37

[FM Korgan]

Do you wish that we destroy the headstone?
Do you wish that we change the inscriping on it?

[FM Korgan]

Did Ammon pee on the grave?
Did Ammon pee on the stone?
Did Ammon use the Shovel?
Did you use the shovel?

[FM Keldorn]

Elaborate?
This was already answered:
Did you suicide out of remorse? Yes.
Did you kill Ammon out of your free will? Yes.
Do you want us to enact revenge? No.

Just pointing out the most obvious ones.

[FM Korgan]

Did the Dagger belong to the high priest?
Did the Mirror belong to the high priest?

[FM Ajantis]

This was already answered:
Did you suicide out of remorse? Yes.
Did you kill Ammon out of your free will? Yes.
Do you want us to enact revenge? No.

Just pointing out the most obvious ones.

Oh. Then whatever I'm thinking is wrong...

[qoute] Prophet is the High Priest.
Prophet is a Bhaalspawn with the power of mind control.
It is using the cult for its own ends, intending to replace instead of resurrecting Bhaal.
Ammon tried to kill the Prophet but failed because he did not know that it was protected from death.
Bishop was converted by the Prophet and was sent to kill Ammon against his own will.
Bishop ambushed Ammon with fire, killing Ammon.
Bishop found out that the Prophet is in fact a Bhaalspawn.
He discovered the ritual required to weaken the Prophet and make it mortal again.
He managed to steal an obsidian dagger and a hand mirror with a frame of ivory from the Cult.
He went to Ammon's grave with the stolen items to seek for forgiveness and swore revenge.
Sensing betrayal, the Prophets' power on Bishop activated, forcing him to commit suicide.
Bishop's spirit cannot find peace, and wanders the graveyard, waiting for worthy champions to fulfill his final wish. [/quote]

[FM Korgan]

Did you kill him while he was digging?
Did you kill him while he was running away?
Is your soul bound to the Headstone?

[FM Korgan]

Was you killing him an accident?

Korgan thinks you guys obviously suck at this kind of riddle or you do it on purpose.

[FM Keldorn]

Korgan smashs tombstone. Korgan sets ghost free.

[FM Kivan]

I think Ghost is crying right now. Bhaal has to hate himself for this riddle right now:D

[FM Ajantis]

Since whatever I though was wrong no harm asking now...

Is the High Priest the Prophet?
Is the High Priest a Bhaalspawn?
Is the High Priest's power Mind Control?
Is the maximum number of victims the High Priest can control is nine?
If a Bhaalspawn attacked the Prophet, when Bhaalspawn wins it gains Prophet's power and usurps his position?
If Bhaalspawn submits, it will be mind controlled?
Is High Priest planning to resurrect the dead Bhaal?
Is High Priest planning to gain Bhaal's power and replace Bhaal?
Did Ammon fail to kill the High Priest because the High Priest is protected from death?
Did Ammon know that the High Priest is a Bhaalspawn?

[FM Ajantis]

Is the inscription by the High Priest?
Is the High Priest a pawn of somebody?
Did the High Priest plan to remain a pawn?
Is the High Priest a visionary?

[FM Korgan]

Not Korgans fault that he is in this riddle chat.

[FM Korgan]

Did you team up with Ammon?
Did you try to kill someone else?
Is your alignment evil neutral?
Did you impregnate my Female Drow warrior in NWN2?

[FM Ajantis]

Is the dagger used for removing the death immunity of the High Priest?
Is the dagger used for weakening the mind control / witching powers of the High Priest?
Is the dagger used for opening the Inner Sanctum?
Is the dagger used for resurrecting Bhaal?
Is the mirror used for removing the death immunity of the High Priest?
Is the mirror used for weakening the mind control / witching powers of the High Priest?
Is the mirror used for opening the Inner Sanctum?
Is the mirror used for resurrecting Bhaal?

[FM Korgan]

Is the dagger used for removing the death immunity of the High Priest?
Is the dagger used for weakening the mind control / witching powers of the High Priest?
Is the dagger used for opening the Inner Sanctum?
Is the dagger used for resurrecting Bhaal?
Is the mirror used for removing the death immunity of the High Priest?
Is the mirror used for weakening the mind control / witching powers of the High Priest?
Is the mirror used for opening the Inner Sanctum?
Is the mirror used for resurrecting Bhaal?


Look how that saussage tells me to shut up and clearly uses my ideas for his own. FAIL

[FM Ajantis]

Look how that saussage tells me to shut up and clearly uses my ideas for his own. FAIL

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[FM Korgan]

Korgan suggests whatever you do, don't send Adjantis for the riddle.

Korgan guesses that the story will have some kind of irony to it. As usual. Something like Ammon and Bishop tried to kill the "old high priest" together while Ammon came earlier to the party. He killed the old high priest and took the Artifacts from that guy while he was burying him. Bishop thought that the old high priest killed Ammon before he had the chance to help him. But he looked like the High priest from behind thanks to the mirror sparkling or something like that. So he accidently killed his friend and went suicide out of remorse.

EZ PZ.

NEXT.

[FM Korgan]

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Shut up Sucklantis. You silly attention whore. Try and learn proper english. :P

[FM Korgan]

Did you swear a oath to Ammon?
Did you swear an oath to the High priest?
Does the NSA know the answer to the riddle?

[FM Garrick]

FM Garrick wishes FM Korgan would contribute better or not at all. FM Garrick thinks FM Korgan is acting scummy and thinks there may be a reason for this. Or there may not.

[FM Coran]

I'm back.

While we wait for the ghost's answer, I want to say to all newcomer:

Please, read carefully what's going on. Many question were answered directly or indirectly already.
Asking too much question of little relevance is bad. (Korgan is bad, Korgan should feel bad for asking useless question.)

That said, I won't be posting question anymore. I'll wait for the answers first.
I suggest you do the same. (Except if you have a really good question that could bring more light in the current situation.)

[FM Ajantis]

Post story up you imagine...

[FM Kivan]

Well, waiting for answer will be a good thing. I'm disappointed that no new info appeared when I came back.

Btw, Alora should be replaced by now.

[FM Ajantis]

Tiax/Jan is Safana?

[FM Ajantis]

Was Qara a collateral?
Was Khelgar a collateral?
Was Grobnar a collateral?
Was Casavir a collateral?
Was Elanee a collateral?
Was Sand a collateral?