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ika
July 27th, 2013, 05:14 PM
Somehow 101 seems more fitting for the name of the game. as for an entry i will show you how to make breakfast


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ula__LHsjP8

setup: http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21554-S-FM-Back-to-Basics

dayend: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=july+29+12%3A00+CST

alive ppl:
titus
Dagaen
POD
Poriomania
Orpz
TheDarkestLight
buccable
NoctiZ
Mateo
RLVG

ITS ALL HIDDEN SO WHAT YOU NEED IT FOR

10 people alive, 6

Mateo
July 27th, 2013, 05:15 PM
that breakfast looks delicious

ika
July 27th, 2013, 05:23 PM
quick announcemnt: i wanted this game to be uderway but due to work time issues the day end time is an optimal time for me. i am considering making the days 48 hrs due to it being a 100% hidden role list but i have it as 24 hr day/night

so i ask the players. keep 24 hr day/night or 48 hr day 24 hr night?

(ya its kinda bad as a host to ask this but i didnt think about it untill the moment)

Mateo
July 27th, 2013, 05:25 PM
whatever works best, i dont mind 48 hour day

Titus
July 27th, 2013, 05:28 PM
It does look delicious. buccable

Welcome to forum mafia.

Do what you need to do but don't change mid game.

Titus
July 27th, 2013, 05:30 PM
That second part is regarding day length.

ika
July 27th, 2013, 05:33 PM
i will make an offical announcement at end of day one on if it will be 48 hrs or 24 hr. one its decided it will be lokced for rest of game

current vote on the situation

2 votes dont care

Mateo
July 27th, 2013, 05:38 PM
i guess ill start off speculation on the role list

mafia- gf or consort
mafia- framer
evil- witch but MAYBE arson
neutral- executioner
town- sheriff
town- doctor
town- escort
town- citizen
town- citizen
town- citizen

with this few people there isnt a serial killer, arsonist is a possibility though
jester seems unlikely because the game is probably gonna be short, conversely, survivor would be too easy in a short game
framer would make sense with a sheriff and executioner to maximize confusion
what game doesnt have a doctor
with the confusion caused by framer and executioner, escort seems likely
and of course 3 citizens to round it out

powerofdeath
July 27th, 2013, 05:40 PM
Post #1 Day 1

Can sheriff detect witch? According to the rolecard, it said sheriff can detect mafia, framed targets, and evil roles. Witch is one of the evil roles.

I want everyone to post roles they think will be in game.
Knowing Ika, he could just host set up like most people do(2-3 mafia, few neuts, and rest town)
But he hosted this because he is hiding something, something people dont normally expect.

I'd say
Town power
Town power
Town power
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Evil
Evil
Benign
Maybe 1 mafia of another evil

Also, if we have an executioner in game, there is no doubt that executioner's target will be me. Ika is trying to prove me something outside of this game and exe with his target on me seem like it could easily help him prove he is right

Mateo
July 27th, 2013, 05:41 PM
buccable

hope you feel special

Poriomania
July 27th, 2013, 05:41 PM
Greetings.

I want the Days to be 48 hours. Then it's likely that we'll get a lynch off today.

I don't like making role lists. Cesspool of setupgaming and lets scum "provide" content, even they're just speculating on the setup.

TheDarkestLight for being notoriously hard to read.

Mateo
July 27th, 2013, 05:43 PM
Post #1 Day 1

Can sheriff detect witch? According to the rolecard, it said sheriff can detect mafia, framed targets, and evil roles. Witch is one of the evil roles.

I want everyone to post roles they think will be in game.
Knowing Ika, he could just host set up like most people do(2-3 mafia, few neuts, and rest town)
But he hosted this because he is hiding something, something people dont normally expect.

I'd say
Town power
Town power
Town power
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Evil
Evil
Benign
Maybe 1 mafia of another evil

Also, if we have an executioner in game, there is no doubt that executioner's target will be me. Ika is trying to prove me something outside of this game and exe with his target on me seem like it could easily help him prove he is right

why would you ask a question and then answer it in the same line? also nice wifom defense against future accusations

powerofdeath

ika
July 27th, 2013, 05:56 PM
Can sheriff detect witch? According to the rolecard, it said sheriff can detect mafia, framed targets, and evil roles. Witch is one of the evil roles.


well the role card doesnt says it cant so yes

powerofdeath
July 27th, 2013, 06:06 PM
Post #2 day 1

I already asked Ika the same question. He kept bugging me to post here, so I did.
Also executioner's target is not always town. I could still be mafia and be Executioner's target at the same time.

Posting set ups could easily make scums slips. In my experience, some scums usually give us some roles they know are correct to gain town points. But at the same time, they avoid posting everything they know about the role list so they wouldnt make it too easy for us.

Orpz
July 27th, 2013, 07:21 PM
Hi Mateo :D

48 hour days are ok. It gives me more time to post cause I'm going to start summer homework for school soon...

Porio seems to think that lynches can't be made within 24 hours. Based on that, he is scum.
Poriomania

Titus
July 27th, 2013, 08:25 PM
Powerofdeath

His setup speculation has no mafia (just evil) and he mentions he could be mafia. As a general rule though, I don't like setup speculation, especially with someone as unpredictable (in a good way) as ika.

Poriomania
July 27th, 2013, 08:35 PM
I'll wait for PoD to respond before commenting on him.

RLVG
July 27th, 2013, 08:58 PM
Poriomania

I don't trust him at all.

ika
July 27th, 2013, 08:59 PM
host is heading to bed.

Mateo
July 27th, 2013, 09:14 PM
sup buuuuuddy 8)

the way i see it, pod's comment about being executioner target could mean two things
1: he is scum, laying the groundwork for a defense against future accusations
2: HE is the executioner. by claiming he is probably the target, he diminishes doubt when he accuses his target of being scum

based on the question to the host, id say the second is more likely. the question seemed more like a veiled soft claim of sheriff than an actual question.

powerofdeath
July 27th, 2013, 09:47 PM
Post #3 day 1

Ika and someone else told me that I sucks at this role. I disagree. I am trying to prove him wrong by saying Im going for MVP next time I get this role. Ika took that challenge. So if there is an executioner in game, no doubt its target would been me. If it is, then he is trying to make me not get MVP.
So guys vote for me for MVP at the end ONLY if you think i deserve it ^.^

If an executioner see that I pointed out why I might be exe's target. I bet he could get angry and annoyed that his chance of winning is probably extremely reduced.
Right now, only Mateo seems suspicous about the whole thing, which I completely understand. It is like wifoming to avoid future lynch.

I would say Mateo is town. His play style is giving off a good towny vibes.
He is fosing people for the right reasons.
Porio seems sheeping a little. He waits until I post so if more people get suspicous, he could easily hop in the train. I find him a little bit scummy. He sheeps a lot in different SFMs.
RLVG posted that he distrust Porio, and he voted then left. He need to lurk less.
Orpz made a nice single towny post, but still need to contribute more.
Titus is difficult to read. Her most recent post seems scummy. I was just guessing what the set up could be like. I know there is a high chance that I could TOTALLY be wrong. It does not means that I dont believe there is no mafia at all. I also mentioned in my Post #1 that there could be one mafia in the game that only exist for kills. Yet she pointed out that when I said there is no mafia.
She only made one non filler posts. But I am keeping my eye out for her.

RLVG
July 27th, 2013, 09:57 PM
RLVG posted that he distrust Porio, and he voted then left. He need to lurk less.

Bad deduction.

I said I distrusted, voted and stayed. Mateo's answer wasn't enough for me to reply.

RLVG
July 27th, 2013, 10:02 PM
Greetings.

I want the Days to be 48 hours. Then it's likely that we'll get a lynch off today.

I don't like making role lists. Cesspool of setupgaming and lets scum "provide" content, even they're just speculating on the setup.

TheDarkestLight for being notoriously hard to read.

1. Want day to be longer.
2. Wants to 100% absolute, lynch.
3. Mentions about how scum "provide" content.
4. Votes someone for being hard to read.

NoctiZ
July 28th, 2013, 01:53 AM
POD just claimed scum as he is 'known' for sucking at it.

powerofdeath

gotta leave in sum minutes

Dagaen
July 28th, 2013, 02:08 AM
Hi everybody! +1 for 48h Days, I'm sick right now so I'd appreciate more time. Reading the thread now.

Dagaen
July 28th, 2013, 02:20 AM
Ok, so.

1: About Setup. I think everybody expects something classic, just like Mateo suggested. Still, we shouldn't be surprised about 3 maf setup, double killer setup or maybe something even wilder. I don't know Ika as a host too much, so I can't tell if he likes to surprise people.

2. PoD gave analysis after 20 posts? This has to be some kind of record, especially when I know that PoD is not really analyzing player. This seems like defensive move. I will pressure for now, but we should keep in mind that PoD always acts scummy, even if he is Town;]

powerofdeath

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 08:15 AM
Serial Killer
Arsonist
Witch
Executioner
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town

/discuss

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 08:16 AM
RLVG is scum with powerofdeath trying to guide us to setup discussion rather than his partner getting lynched.

/discuss

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 08:21 AM
RLVG is scum with powerofdeath trying to guide us to setup discussion rather than his partner getting lynched.

/discuss

I keep my vote on Poriomania.
PoD could be a Jester, so I'd like a Vigilante to kill him.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 08:22 AM
Vigilante

Nevermind, they're not in the setup. I just woke up.

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 08:57 AM
Post #4 Day 1
Noctiz think I sucks as scum. Yet I was scum with Noctiz once and almost got MVP, but I told Ika to give him MVP instead. CmG was just a sore loser that he died n1 and taking it out on me. Keep guessing though.
Dagaen, I am trying to go for the MVP. I need it more than I ever did. So I am putting in all.
More votes on me protect me from getting hit tonight.
Titus just got scummier. RLVG just posted his opinion on the set up. Why would I try to draw attention from someone when nobody is suspecting him right now. This is how Titus play as scum. Point at people for bad reasons.
Titus
Titus definitely need more pressuring.
RLVG assumed I am jester. I never got Jester before, why would people say I sucks at it. Also how is my playstyle Jesterlike? You know how I am, I would troll like hell if I was Jester.

Mateo
RLVG
Poriomania
Orpz
Dagaen
Noctiz
TDL
Bucci
Titus

This is my opinions on the players so far.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 09:18 AM
@PoD, I do not get your question. I don't see you as protecting anyone but yourself. Please rephrase. Your vote is an OMGUS and my reasons are indeed good. Flail on.

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 09:23 AM
Post #5 Day 1
I am going to ask questions to attempt to pull some answers out for some people's suspicious beside myself.

RLVG, what is your opinion on Titus?
She is accusing you for being my partner but you continue to ignore her a little and kept your vote on Porio.

Porio, what is your opinion on RLVG and his fos on you. Also what about Orpz fos on you as well?

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 09:34 AM
You missed my question PoD.


Why would I try to draw attention from someone when nobody is suspecting him right now.

What the heck does this mean?

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 09:38 AM
Post #6 Day 1


@PoD, I do not get your question. I don't see you as protecting anyone but yourself. Please rephrase. Your vote is an OMGUS and my reasons are indeed good. Flail on.

Titus, I never asked you any questions. Please read carefully. It wasnt OMGUS post, you just gave a lot of slips. Your reasons arent that good. Dagaen and Mateo's reasons are more understandable. Noctiz is just making a random guess on my role. He assumed I normally sucks as scum.


RLVG is scum with powerofdeath trying to guide us to setup discussion rather than his partner getting lynched.

/discuss

This post made it clear that you think I am trying to draw attention away from RLVG to set up discussion. Also read what I wrote in #4


Most of you people should know my role by now.

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 09:40 AM
Post #7 Day 1


You missed my question PoD.



What the heck does this mean?

Its not a question. There is no question mark.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 09:43 AM
Really, you'd care to highlight those alleged slips right?

Also your interpretation of my post is asinine, talking about RLVG.

1) Is your name RLVG? No. Was I putting out a theory that RLVG is trying to do setup speculation so we wouldn't lynch you? Answer yes. In what planet is that an accusation of you? PoD is the center of the universe planet.


Yeah asking you to rephrase is technically not a question grammatically. Context though, it clearly says "What the heck did you say?"

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 10:10 AM
This kind of supports my suspicion of Jester...

NoctiZ
July 28th, 2013, 11:00 AM
I would tag POD as Jester but he is too defensive. An elaborate plot, going for the long con?

Dagaen
July 28th, 2013, 11:18 AM
Well, looking at PoD now I can see he is really trying. He did an analysis, he uses capital letters, he is actually contributing. Either he has really interesting role or really changed.

Funny idea: PoD is a Citizen and finally decided to stop sucking at it. Still, I would like him to respond to Titus' questions.

Oh, and Buccable will be replaced, I'm quite certain of it.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 11:36 AM
Hi Mateo :D

48 hour days are ok. It gives me more time to post cause I'm going to start summer homework for school soon...

Porio seems to think that lynches can't be made within 24 hours. Based on that, he is scum.
Poriomania

X

Try again, please.

Answer this for me: How does thinking lynches can't be made in 24 hours == scum?


1. Want day to be longer.
2. Wants to 100% absolute, lynch.
3. Mentions about how scum "provide" content.
4. Votes someone for being hard to read.

X

You too.

None of those reasons are scummy, so why are you voting for me?

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 12:01 PM
X

You too.

None of those reasons are scummy, so why are you voting for me?

Unknown setup. You want to lynch and remove potential clues to gain the full setup?

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 12:15 PM
Post #8 day 1


Really, you'd care to highlight those alleged slips right?

Also your interpretation of my post is asinine, talking about RLVG.

1) Is your name RLVG? No. Was I putting out a theory that RLVG is trying to do setup speculation so we wouldn't lynch you? Answer yes. In what planet is that an accusation of you? PoD is the center of the universe planet.


Yeah asking you to rephrase is technically not a question grammatically. Context though, it clearly says "What the heck did you say?"

Ah I misunderstood you then. I thought it was the other way around. I also clarified what it meant in post #6
If people truly want me to answer every single question from Titus, then I will.


Really, you'd care to highlight those alleged slips right?
I already highlighted most of your slips on some of my other posts if you didnt noticed.


Is your name RLVG?
No


Was I putting out a theory that RLVG is trying to do setup speculation so we wouldn't lynch you?
Yes, I just misunderstood you.


In what planet is that an accusation of you?
I just misunderstood you. I thought you were talking to me.





Here is where I misunderstood Titus.


RLVG is scum with powerofdeath trying to guide us to setup discussion rather than his partner getting lynched.

/discuss
If you put something in between 'powerofdeath' and 'trying' like a comma or something, then I would've known it was meant for RLVG only. Otherwise it looked like it said powerofdeath is trying to guide us to setup discussion rather than his partner getting lynched.

I just misunderstood you, and you should be more careful in your posts.

Because I misunderstood you, I will go ahead and unvote.

Mateo
July 28th, 2013, 12:17 PM
do we have to wait for the whole 48 hours before buccable will be replaced?

ika
July 28th, 2013, 12:26 PM
do we have to wait for the whole 48 hours before buccable will be replaced?

i dont plan on waiting the full 48 hrs. i will see what the staus is right now and see what is going to happen

ika
July 28th, 2013, 12:36 PM
this was asked by a Mateo: can framer "unframe" himelf (make hime show not suspicous)

the answer is yes he can the role does nto state that he can not so a frmaer will be allowed to

edit: we were ina game of sc2maifa and he decided to ask me becasue it was convenent

Orpz
July 28th, 2013, 12:39 PM
X

Try again, please.

Answer this for me: How does thinking lynches can't be made in 24 hours == scum?



X

You too.

None of those reasons are scummy, so why are you voting for me?

Reaction test. I immediately noticed you went from being to aggressive to passive after I voted you. And that you never commented on PoD like you said.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 12:40 PM
Unknown setup. You want to lynch and remove potential clues to gain the full setup?

In a setup like this, lynching every day is always good because it's the town's best weapon.

Lynching can kill scum.

Scum kills can't.

Less lynching = more scum kills.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 12:43 PM
Reaction test. I immediately noticed you went from being to aggressive to passive after I voted you. And that you never commented on PoD like you said.

I have a town read on PoD currently. He is getting involved in discussion and more importantly /scumhunting/.

unvoteDagaen

Love his fencesitting.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 12:47 PM
Dagaen. Hm.

powerofdeath (4 [L-2]): Titus, Mateo, NoctiZ, Dagaen
Poriomania (2 [L-4]): Orpz, RLVG
Dagaen (1 [L-5]) Poriomania

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 01:02 PM
@PoD - Sorry, I'll try to be clearer in the future.

@Poriomania - Examples of his fence-sitting please and why you think they are scummy.

Orpz
July 28th, 2013, 01:03 PM
Dagaen. Hm.

powerofdeath (4 [L-2]): Titus, Mateo, NoctiZ, Dagaen
Poriomania (2 [L-4]): Orpz, RLVG
Dagaen (1 [L-5]) Poriomania

What do you think of PoD being confident that he is an Exec's target? Other than that, I have a Town read on him too.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 01:09 PM
This seems like defensive move. I will pressure for now, but we should keep in mind that PoD always acts scummy, even if he is Town;]

powerofdeath

"I will sheep my vote on PoD, but keep in mind that PoD's playstyle isn't indicative of alignment!"


Well, looking at PoD now I can see he is really trying. He did an analysis, he uses capital letters, he is actually contributing. Either he has really interesting role or really changed.

Funny idea: PoD is a Citizen and finally decided to stop sucking at it. Still, I would like him to respond to Titus' questions.

Oh, and Buccable will be replaced, I'm quite certain of it.

"PoD has changed for the better and he might be town but I still like my bad vote on him!"

Fencesitting is scummy because it shows a lack of commitment. It allows you to jump on either side if you see the other is gaining traction. It lets you jump on any wagon that suits you.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 01:09 PM
What do you think of PoD being confident that he is an Exec's target? Other than that, I have a Town read on him too.

I don't think it's indicative of anything. Modgaming is modgaming.

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 01:33 PM
Post #9 Day 1

Porio stopped sheeping people, and started a train on Dagaen. Porio brought up valid points about Dagaen. Porio is becoming more towny.

I am not confident if there is an executioner in game, but IF there is one, I am somewhat confident that his target could be me.

I've noticed that Mateo immediately starts lurking right after I commented that he is giving off a good town vibes. It seems like he is hiding something. It could be good thing like doctor trying to avoid a hit, it could be that he is jester and being towny is bad for him.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 02:21 PM
What do you think of PoD being confident that he is an Exec's target? Other than that, I have a Town read on him too.

It's just a method of self-vouching. I don't put any stock in it.

[vote]Daegan[//vote]

I agree with the fence sitting thing now that Porio's highlighted it and PoD might be a jester.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 02:21 PM
Daegan

Derp.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 02:24 PM
Post #9 Day 1

Porio stopped sheeping people

Where have I sheeped?

Also, can you provide reasoning for your color coded t/s list? Thanks.

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 02:37 PM
Post #10 Day 1
Porio, please look at post #4
More green your color is, more towny you are
More red your color is, more scummy you are.
Yellow is neutral
Gray is no posts/lurking

I still need to update it.

Because I agree with Porio, I will apply more pressure on Dagaen
Dagaen

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 02:40 PM
Daegan

Derp.

I think it's quite tiring to watch wrong votes, even if I'm not him.

Dagaen. :p

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 02:45 PM
Post #10 Day 1
Porio, please look at post #4
More green your color is, more towny you are
More red your color is, more scummy you are.
Yellow is neutral
Gray is no posts/lurking

I still need to update it.

Because I agree with Porio, I will apply more pressure on Dagaen
Dagaen

You didn't answer my sheeping question.

And I need reasoning. What makes Mateo townie? Why do you feel as though Titus is scummy? Etc.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 02:52 PM
Dagaen

Grr... My vote from earlier didn't take.

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 02:56 PM
Post #11
Porio I said the list still need to be updated.
Look at Post #4 for reasons for minor sheeping.
I am busy atm. I will update later.

ika
July 28th, 2013, 03:01 PM
slaol will be subbing in for buccable i have been infored that the player will not have internet for some time and will not be able to play

Dagaen
July 28th, 2013, 03:01 PM
"PoD has changed for the better and he might be town but I still like my bad vote on him!"

Fencesitting is scummy because it shows a lack of commitment. It allows you to jump on either side if you see the other is gaining traction. It lets you jump on any wagon that suits you.

a) I voted PoD to put more pressure on him, as far as I know he always slips after having many votes on him.
b) I didn't unvoted PoD at that point because I was waiting for more input from him (like answering Titus' questions). I don't see a reason in pressure vote if we don't extract every possible bit of information from that person.
c) Radical change of gameplay is suspicious to me. Sure, PoD is giving townie vibes right now but I still wander why he decided to change it. Since his response was more or less legit I can unvote now.

I guess you can feel some "lack of commitment" vibe on my part, because I am sick and everytime I swallow it feels like big iron hand is grasping my throat. Not really a defense, but don't expect great performance from me this game.




Anyway, I have some questions on my own.

@Poriomania, in #41 it seems as you fosed Orpz and RLVG, yet you voted me. Why? Counting vote on TDL in the beginning it's almost half of town you suspecting.

@RLVG, why voting for longer games is scummy behavior in your opinion? Why do you think setup has 3 evil neutrals and not mafia? This seems really close to PoD's view of things and I think I saw possible buddying between you.

@Powerofdeath - Why did you start to number your posts?

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 03:01 PM
Okay, then.

I'll be here, eagerly awaiting your updated t/s list.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 03:03 PM
Sup? Ask me questions aside read nothing.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 03:04 PM
As I've*

NoctiZ
July 28th, 2013, 03:05 PM
Welp, looks like I will continue watching this unfold.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 03:06 PM
a) I voted PoD to put more pressure on him, as far as I know he always slips after having many votes on him.
Show me the games where he does this,

Also, who do you think is scum and why?

@Poriomania, in #41 it seems as you fosed Orpz and RLVG, yet you voted me. Why? Counting vote on TDL in the beginning it's almost half of town you suspecting.[/QUOTE]

I didn't FoS Orpz or RLVG, I was simply pointing out the flaws in their voting of me.

I voted you because you hopped on a popular bandwagon and fencesat.

TDL was a random vote.

More concerning matters here..


it's almost half of town you suspecting.

How do you know that all the people I voted were town?

Nice slip.

Confirm Vote

TheDarkestLight
July 28th, 2013, 03:09 PM
I'm here...

Wut u need?

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 03:09 PM
Dagaen
I agree with scum slip accusation by Poriomania

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 03:10 PM
Sup? Ask me questions aside read nothing.

Hello there, I'm Poriomania.

What do you think about the events that have transpired recently?




Welp, looks like I will continue watching this unfold.

You too.

What you're doing just doesn't cut it. FoS NoctiZ

I refuse to believe that the only thing you have to say about the ~70 posts in this game (that aren't yours or the mod's) is some on-the-fence opinion with no evidence behind it. I'm not going to let you just "watch them duke it out". Contribute or get lynched.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 03:11 PM
Dagaen, you are at L-2. Please claim.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 03:13 PM
Hello there, I'm Poriomania.

What do you think about the events that have transpired recently?

Haven't read them. Will work on doing that later.

Dagaen
July 28th, 2013, 03:14 PM
How the hell "half of town" is a slip, please explain? I can see how saying "half of mafia" would be suspicious, but not "half of town". Especially that by town I meant every possible player here.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 03:15 PM
@Porio, seems like you are rushing to get out claims.

@TDL, the usual, read the thread and give input.

NoctiZ
July 28th, 2013, 03:16 PM
Then plz lynch me Poriomania. You just won't be satisfied with the result.

I believe that the current metagame is shit. Reveal all you have while a good discussion is going on? Nah. Better WIFOM my shit through this.

Although I do have to say that I don't agree with the Dagaen slip. He made two slips, but they aren't all that much of a slip if you can see yourself in that same situation.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 03:18 PM
How the hell "half of town" is a slip, please explain? I can see how saying "half of mafia" would be suspicious, but not "half of town". Especially that by town I meant every possible player here.

Because when you say "half of town" you imply that you know that the players you talked about are town.

It's more of a language tell, but it doesn't decrease my suspicions of you. I admit that I kind of jumped the gun on calling it a "slip", which in fact increases my suspicion of Slaol slightly.

@Titus: Dagaen is at L-2. L-2 is the standard procedure of claiming.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 03:20 PM
Does it now?

Escort.

Dagaen
July 28th, 2013, 03:23 PM
this was asked by a Mateo: can framer "unframe" himelf (make hime show not suspicous)

the answer is yes he can the role does nto state that he can not so a frmaer will be allowed to

edit: we were ina game of sc2maifa and he decided to ask me becasue it was convenent

Btw, what do you think of this? If Mateo is Framer this would be typical question to ask and Ika made a slip by making it public.

Dagaen
July 28th, 2013, 03:27 PM
Because when you say "half of town" you imply that you know that the players you talked about are town.

It's more of a language tell, but it doesn't decrease my suspicions of you. I admit that I kind of jumped the gun on calling it a "slip", which in fact increases my suspicion of Slaol slightly.

@Titus: Dagaen is at L-2. L-2 is the standard procedure of claiming.

Well, I usually use "town" when talking about entire set of player and use Townies/Town when speaking about faction. This "slip" is really stretched, I won't claim on L-2 for something like this.

I may be forced to claim on L-1, but I don't think it would be beneficial.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 03:30 PM
Well, I usually use "town" when talking about entire set of player and use Townies/Town when speaking about faction. This "slip" is really stretched, I won't claim on L-2 for something like this.

I may be forced to claim on L-1, but I don't think it would be beneficial.

Agreed. I started thinking about it and there's no natural way to refer to "the town" by something else.

Mateo, I see you lurking. Please comment on Dagaen's framer question.

@Slaol: Breadcrumb?

I'm still evaluating whether Dagaen's posts are coming from a town mindset.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 03:32 PM
Escort.

God, Slaol is a town.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 03:34 PM
God, Slaol is a town.

Is this some elaborate trust tell?

How did you get to this conclusion?

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 03:35 PM
God, Slaol is a town.

And a shitty role at that.
Can't block GF
Can't block Consort
Don't detect feedback
Die to Serial Killer
Doused by Arsonist
Witch isn't even in OoO, so I assume it has priority.
I'm damned better off not blocking.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 03:37 PM
And a shitty role at that.
Can't block GF
Can't block Consort
Don't detect feedback
Die to Serial Killer
Doused by Arsonist
Witch isn't even in OoO, so I assume it has priority.
I'm damned better off not blocking.

If there's a witch, you're now a tool.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 03:40 PM
@Porio, L-1 is the standard for claiming.

@All, Slaol claims that early can we all believe him? Really?

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 03:40 PM
If there's a witch, you're now a tool.

I actually doubt there is witch since it isn't in OoO.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 03:41 PM
@Porio, L-1 is the standard for claiming.

@All, Slaol claims that early can we all believe him? Really?

I tend to claim my role, Parker.

Dagaen
July 28th, 2013, 03:43 PM
Slaol claimed Escort and implied he won't roleblock anyone. So I doubt he is one.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 03:45 PM
Slaol claimed Escort and implied he won't roleblock anyone. So I doubt he is one.

Incorrect.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 03:48 PM
@Porio, L-1 is the standard for claiming.

@All, Slaol claims that early can we all believe him? Really?

Mmm, I figured that it would be that since you can't self hammer.

After seeing a host of role claims from this site/other sites, I've concluded that role claims don't actually mean anything. Fine gambit to jump start conversation but IMO they don't mean anything.

ika
July 28th, 2013, 03:48 PM
I actually doubt there is witch since it isn't in OoO.

witch is a possible role and i have added it to OoO, it was a role that was added later to the possible role list i just seem to have forgoten to add it to OoO

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 04:04 PM
Post #12 Day 1

I decide to number my post like any MVP would. Im being organized.

Poriomania seems like hes rushing on the lynch against Dagaen. It look like hes pushing it too hard. We have more than 24 hours left. Dont forget this.

I dont think Slaol's escort claim is legit, but i think he is town.



I also doubt there is a witch in game. Ika seems clueless about the witch when I asked him if sheriff could detect witch.

Mateo
July 28th, 2013, 04:32 PM
wasn't lurking, I left my browser open.

asked about framer because un framing mafia was a mechanic I hadn't seen before. if you don't like that answer then lynch me.

noctiz fence sitting seemed a little too obvious after dagean was accused of fence sitting.

pods comment about this game having untraditional role list makes sense, probably only one maf being framer and several evils.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 04:34 PM
@Slaol, if you're escort then block me. I am fine with being blocked.

NoctiZ
July 28th, 2013, 04:38 PM
wasn't lurking, I left my browser open.

asked about framer because un framing mafia was a mechanic I hadn't seen before. if you don't like that answer then lynch me.

noctiz fence sitting seemed a little too obvious after dagean was accused of fence sitting.

pods comment about this game having untraditional role list makes sense, probably only one maf being framer and several evils.

I wouldn't call myself fence sitting, I just don't trust anyone right now. I first accused POD because I wanted to see him slip but no such luck so it's senseless and Dagaen didn't slip in my opinion, something we have all agreed upon now.

EZPZ

gonna go to sleep

NoctiZ
July 28th, 2013, 04:39 PM
@Slaol, if you're escort then block me. I am fine with being blocked.

You can also do me anytime.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 04:41 PM
You can also do me anytime.

And me.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 04:42 PM
Scumdar is overloaded, please register.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 04:54 PM
Lol @ everyone wanting my sex. Please PM Buccable for permission to sexy time Slaol.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 04:55 PM
Lol @ everyone wanting my sex. Please PM Buccable for permission to sexy time Slaol.

Use this opturnity to prove yourself with feedback.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 04:56 PM
Use this opturnity to prove yourself with feedback.

No.

Mateo
July 28th, 2013, 04:57 PM
Lol @ everyone wanting my sex. Please PM Buccable for permission to sexy time Slaol.

already established that buccable won't have internet for a few days

therefore, consort

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 04:57 PM
already established that buccable won't have internet for a few days

therefore, consort

Not sure the correlation lol.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 05:00 PM
No.

I checked this 'Slaol' guys last night and he came back "Your target is an MVP"

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 05:01 PM
Conspiracy theory : What if, there is no roleblockers in the game?

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 05:02 PM
Conspiracy theory : What if, there is no roleblockers in the game?

If there are Ika should uninstall FM hosting because imbalance useless roles.

Also, Sheriffs could potentially not detect the Mafia.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 05:12 PM
Well if Slaol won't play ball, we can keep our mouths shut about roleblocked until Slaol announces who he roleblocked.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 05:16 PM
Well if Slaol won't play ball, we can keep our mouths shut about roleblocked until Slaol announces who he roleblocked.

Draw.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 05:18 PM
Draw.

What's your problem with that? It assures you with living through the night and you have volunteers.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 05:19 PM
What's your problem with that? It assures you with living through the night and you have volunteers.

I didn't say I had a problem with it.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 05:22 PM
Last Wills are a thing?

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 05:25 PM
I didn't say I had a problem with it.

Cowboy avatar says, says "Draw!" It sounds like you're challenging me to a duel. Not kinda hard to think you have a problem with my plan.

ika
July 28th, 2013, 05:45 PM
Last Wills are a thing?


last wills off


from setup i found ppl are more lurky when they can just make everything in their last will.

edit: if you want you make a last will to be revealed at the end of the game

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 05:48 PM
from setup i found ppl are more lurky when they can just make everything in their last will.

edit: if you want you make a last will to be revealed at the end of the game

Just as useless as my role.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 05:57 PM
Seriously, can i just fucking rage for a moment.

Why in the fuck do Escorts exist that can't fucking role block 2/3 mafia roles, 2/3 evil roles, and have no feedback from the mafia and evil role to possibly use a role block to confirm them. I exist literally completely and only for the sole purpose of fucking up town or being a Witch's access to fucking up Town.

God fucking damnit this role is retardedly shitty.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 06:01 PM
Seriously, can i just fucking rage for a moment.

Why in the fuck do Escorts exist that can't fucking role block 2/3 mafia roles, 2/3 evil roles, and have no feedback from the mafia and evil role to possibly use a role block to confirm them. I exist literally completely and only for the sole purpose of fucking up town or being a Witch's access to fucking up Town.

God fucking damnit this role is retardedly shitty.

Because they can still do 1/3.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 06:03 PM
Because they can still do 1/3.

You retarded? That 1/3 has no trackable feedback to work around. I would have no reason to remain on a Witch or a Framer since I would have no visible way to know anything had happened.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 06:07 PM
Ika, please add roles to the setup to make me think I have a chance to do anything.

I suggest Blackmailer and ElectroManiac. Yea. That should do it, pretend there are more roles possible then there are. Guys, I am now worth anything at all.

ika
July 28th, 2013, 06:12 PM
Ika, please add roles to the setup to make me think I have a chance to do anything.

I suggest Blackmailer and ElectroManiac. Yea. That should do it, pretend there are more roles possible then there are. Guys, I am now worth anything at all.

maybe for round 2 i will add them in as a possible role as of now what the current role list is, is what you will get

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 06:13 PM
maybe for round 2 i will add them in as a possible role as of now what the current role list is, is what you will get

aka- setup is broken and i will not fix it

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 06:20 PM
Ika, please add roles to the setup to make me think I have a chance to do anything.

I suggest Blackmailer and ElectroManiac. Yea. That should do it, pretend there are more roles possible then there are. Guys, I am now worth anything at all.

Let's add Electromaniac, Jailor, Kidnapper, Bus Driver, Mafia Driver, Joker, Veteran, Devourer, Ghost, Cultist.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 06:33 PM
Let's add Electromaniac, Jailor, Kidnapper, Bus Driver, Mafia Driver, Joker, Veteran, Devourer, Ghost, Cultist.

Bus Driver and Mafia Driver (lets call it Chauffeur), and Joker. Others have day actions or give no feedback

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 06:43 PM
I'd say if there's another blocker, they should roleblock Slaol. No harm done, since that's what he's paranoid over.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 06:45 PM
I'd say if there's another blocker, they should roleblock Slaol. No harm done, since that's what he's paranoid over.

*facepalm*

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 06:50 PM
I'd say if there's another blocker, they should roleblock Slaol. No harm done, since that's what he's paranoid over.

It'd make sense to have a Serial Killer that way.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 06:58 PM
Serial Killer
Arsonist
Witch
Executioner
Sheriff
Sheriff
Doctor
Escort
Citizen
Citizen

/discuss

Orpz
July 28th, 2013, 06:59 PM
ika confirmed Slaol as Escort, Titus trying to direct night actions

gg ez

Orpz
July 28th, 2013, 07:01 PM
Serial Killer
Arsonist
Witch
Executioner
Sheriff
Sheriff
Doctor
Escort
Citizen
Citizen

/discuss

lets host meta ika

much more likely a Jester instead of an exec for neut benign.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 07:04 PM
Ok, let me be a little more direct. I call bullshit. Host doesn't confirm reading it. If I die, everyone will know Slaol is almost certainly lying.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 07:06 PM
If I die, everyone will know Slaol is almost certainly lying.

Nice subliminal counterclaim.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 07:07 PM
I don't do subtle well. Now, Slaol's plan has worked. They got a PR to out. With no ability to protect myself from the framer either. Great.

Orpz
July 28th, 2013, 07:11 PM
You sound pretty sure there's a Framer

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 07:17 PM
You sound pretty sure there's a Framer

I'm not 100% certain but that move makes a lot more sense if there's an SK/Godfather/Other immune role who can do the claiming. A framer is bonus for the mafia because if they frame me then whaddya know, a guilty result on the ccer.

I will block someone (without telling Slaol) who. Slaol will announce who he blocked. Then I will announce who I blocked. My block will be one of the volunteers. Slaol should do the same. The targets then report what messages they got.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 07:18 PM
If someone is blocked who isn't a volunteer, we'll know 100% beyond any doubt there's scum influence. If no one claims blocked, I'm dead.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 07:26 PM
I won't volunteer to roleblocks, reducing the list.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 07:29 PM
Yeah, this lynch is stalled.

Hm.

Titus

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 07:31 PM
Yeah, this lynch is stalled.

Hm.

Titus

Rather, the votes are too spread.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 07:32 PM
Oh, haha, I didn't read the last page.

unvote

You're CCing Slaol?

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 07:42 PM
Yes I am CCing Slaol. Given ika, it is possible we have two escorts but probably not.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 07:50 PM
Yes I am CCing Slaol. Given ika, it is possible we have two escorts but probably not.

What happens if two or more escorts / consorts target a Serial Killer? Will they all die?

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 07:51 PM
Hm.

Slaol, then.

ika
July 28th, 2013, 07:52 PM
What happens if two or more escorts / consorts target a Serial Killer? Will they all die?

double rb on an sk will negate the attack.

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 07:53 PM
Post #13 Day 1

Please don't tell me nobody learned their lessons from SFM One vs All... Especially when Ika was one of the escorts. Ika is probably doing the exact same thing.

A lot of posts happened while I was gone. I just read them all, now I am going to analyze them.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 07:56 PM
Lol, I feel bad for neutral killers.
They can be killed, not immune.

/Discussio

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 07:59 PM
Post #13 Day 1

Please don't tell me nobody learned their lessons from SFM One vs All... Especially when Ika was one of the escorts. Ika is probably doing the exact same thing.

A lot of posts happened while I was gone. I just read them all, now I am going to analyze them.

What happened then? I'm too tired to read that game.

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 08:06 PM
Post #14 Day 1


What happened then? I'm too tired to read that game.

There were 7 players, 1 godfather that can recruit, and 6 towns.
Chane was the GF. Ika and Carolina was the escorts. RLVG was the sheriff, rest were citizens.
Carolina claimed escort, Ika counterclaimed. Town think carolina is town but they all lynched him anyway. The godfather didnt even vote that day. Chane recruited Ika the escort, and RLVG investigated Ika. He then told the town Ika is recruited. Chane claimed doctor(there was no doctor in set up but everyone assumed there was one) The town lynched a citizen and Mafia kill. Mafia won 2v2.
It was so terrible. They knew carolina was town but they lynched him anyway because of Ika "perfect" plan which then backfired. Then they mislynched again knowingly that Ika was mafia.

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 08:07 PM
Post #15 Day 1

The town assumed there was one escort and 1 doctor when in reality there was 2 escorts and no doctor at all.

Dont assume anything.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 08:08 PM
Then yes, two escorts sounds like something ika would definitely do. That would also make sense if ika stacked the deck with multiple nks since they don't have immunity.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 08:09 PM
Post #14 Day 1



There were 7 players, 1 godfather that can recruit, and 6 towns.
Chane was the GF. Ika and Carolina was the escorts. RLVG was the sheriff, rest were citizens.
Carolina claimed escort, Ika counterclaimed. Town think carolina is town but they all lynched him anyway. The godfather didnt even vote that day. Chane recruited Ika the escort, and RLVG investigated Ika. He then told the town Ika is recruited. Chane claimed doctor(there was no doctor in set up but everyone assumed there was one) The town lynched a citizen and Mafia kill. Mafia won 2v2.
It was so terrible. They knew carolina was town but they lynched him anyway because of Ika "perfect" plan which then backfired. Then they mislynched again knowingly that Ika was mafia.


I 100% deny the Sheriff guess. I am not a Sheriff at all.

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 08:11 PM
Post #16 Day 1


You can also do me anytime.

And me.

These two guys are willing to be roleblocked. They aren't afraid to be roleblocked.
This lead me to assume they are citizen or SK trying to draw a roleblock. The escort cannot leave last wills.

Titus
July 28th, 2013, 08:14 PM
Post #16 Day 1




These two guys are willing to be roleblocked. They aren't afraid to be roleblocked.
This lead me to assume they are citizen or SK trying to draw a roleblock. The escort cannot leave last wills.

RLVG backed out. Given the fact we cannot assume there's a consort (blah), I'm not sure how to act now. My plan was predicated on a 1 v 1 setup. Otherwise, I wouldn't have even claimed.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 08:15 PM
I 100% deny the Sheriff guess. I am not a Sheriff at all.

In fact, I'm not even a Doctor either. That's as far as I can care to claim.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 08:17 PM
This PR directing, breadcrumbing, and host metaing is making my head hurt.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 08:23 PM
Serial Killer
Arsonist
Witch
Executioner
Sheriff - Not RLVG
Sheriff- Not RLVG
Escort - Slaol
Escort - Titus
Doctor - Not RLVG
Citizen

/discuss

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 08:33 PM
Post #17 Day 1

Town - Escort
Town - Escort
Town - Citizen
Town - Citizen
Town - Citizen
Town - Sheriff

I am going to go ahead and assume there are 6 towns. It just make sense.
If 2 escorts is true, then this is our most likely town set ups

I am betting Mateo is the Neutral bengin. He just acts like it. Slaol could be the real escort, or jester trying to get lynched. Titus is consort/escort

I saw total of 4 claims/softclaims in this game.

RLVG
PoD
Titus
Mateo
Slaol
Poriomania
Orpz
Dagaen
Noctiz
TDL

RLVG continues to give off good towny vibes.
Mateo just became extemely lurky
Slaol is frustrated escort or neutral
Titus is consort or escort
Porio seems towny but hes jumped at Dagaen too hard, then start sheeping again.
Orpz is giving off a good towny vibes, but my hunch said hes hiding something.
Dagaen havent been contributing much, he only defended himself.
Noctiz and TDL are lurking too much.

Noctiz and TDL need to contribute more.
TheDarkestlight

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 08:39 PM
I would like to personally thank Titus for not wasting her block on me tonight. Also, congratulate her for claiming for no reason other than to try to fuck me, a Town, over. Congratulations, you bad.

There is a vote on me. I'll make this super preemptive defense now. Sit down, shut up, and let me do what I do. Thank you. Seriously, stop trying to over think it, and for the love of god NEVER act on a damn thing I say the day of. It's like you haven't ever played a game with me.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 08:44 PM
More than anyone else Titus is immune to figuring me out.
Fm 18, assumes dozens of people are scum based on my words. 0 were scum.
Cryptonics Small Round- leads a lynch train on me when I was an un-cc'd Sheriff because 'I was probably trying to get Sheriff to claim'
Right now- just stop Titus. You never have any idea what what I'm saying means, and frankly I'm pretty sure the only person capable of figuring it out has their vote on me right now because of Titus' shitfuckery.

Everyone, literally everyone, needs to slow their roll when dealing with me. But good god Titus leads the pack.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 08:45 PM
Lynch me. See how good your reads are Titus, and then next game, please counterclaim me immediately as if no previous game ever happened.

RLVG
July 28th, 2013, 08:50 PM
Lynch me. See how good your reads are Titus, and then next game, please counterclaim me immediately as if no previous game ever happened.

Disapprove. You won't be voted by me.

Anyway, sleep. Night all.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 08:54 PM
Lynch me. See how good your reads are Titus, and then next game, please counterclaim me immediately as if no previous game ever happened.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50240451/eyebrow.gif

Here's me trying to evaluate your response right now and trying to see if it comes from a town or scum mindset.

unvote

My mind has been on lazy mode this evening, which resulted in the inconsistency above.

I'm trying to think this though.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 08:55 PM
Disapprove. You won't be voted by me.

Anyway, sleep. Night all.

RLVG, do you believe that I am the best candidate to be lynched toDay?

ika
July 28th, 2013, 08:55 PM
Anyway, sleep. Night all.

seconded by host, night

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 08:56 PM
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50240451/eyebrow.gif

Here's me trying to evaluate your response right now and trying to see if it comes from a town or scum mindset.

unvote

My mind has been on lazy mode this evening, which resulted in the inconsistency above.

I'm trying to think this though.

It is from neither town nor scum, it is from 'good god, Titus has gone out of her to show she has no idea what I am ever once again'

I am just mad at Titus. That is the end of the intent.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 08:56 PM
RLVG, do you believe that I am the best candidate to be lynched toDay?

He has slept, so I shall answer. You are not.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 09:14 PM
It is from neither town nor scum, it is from 'good god, Titus has gone out of her to show she has no idea what I am ever once again'

I am just mad at Titus. That is the end of the intent.

Mrgle.

Yeah, that was the purpose - to determine if it's scum!anger or town!anger.

After walking it off, I would like to see more from you before reaching a conclusion. All you've really done toDay was /barn me on voting Dagaen and get yourself into trouble by claiming Escort.

I don't think you're Escort - you're trying too hard with the "I hate my role!" and I can't fathom the town mindset of drawing a CC + claiming your role early. You really have not done much this game, and the Escort claim + entertaining response to my vote + haven't commented on the previous events make me think you're on the scummy side of neutral, but it's only Day 1 and I'll see if I can get more from you before reaching a conclusion.

Brb, rereading. There were a few things that I remembered while I was walking.

Slaol
July 28th, 2013, 09:17 PM
Meh. I'm not in the mood now. I'll see how I feel tomorrow.

powerofdeath
July 28th, 2013, 09:24 PM
Post #18 Day 1

Porio since you're still up, there are few people in this game I am not so sure about and you're one of them. Do you mind posting your reads on everyone in this game. Also please explain why you think they are town/scum etc.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 09:24 PM
Fair enough.

Mateo, care to contribute?

@ikamod: I'm daytripping tomorrow and will have limited internet access. Heads up. I'll be back before the end of the day.

Poriomania
July 28th, 2013, 09:27 PM
Post #18 Day 1

Porio since you're still up, there are few people in this game I am not so sure about and you're one of them. Do you mind posting your reads on everyone in this game. Also please explain why you think they are town/scum etc.

Actually going right now, heh.

I'll see if I can put one up soon, though.

Mateo
July 28th, 2013, 10:01 PM
back

this might be hard for children to fathom, but there's this thing called the real world, and it sometimes demands my attention

crazy, I know

anyway, tdl hasn't done anything constructive so fuck him

thedarkestlight

TheDarkestLight
July 28th, 2013, 10:11 PM
back

this might be hard for children to fathom, but there's this thing called the real world, and it sometimes demands my attention

crazy, I know

anyway, tdl hasn't done anything constructive so fuck him

thedarkestlight

U mad?

TheDarkestLight
July 28th, 2013, 10:15 PM
I'm just gonna lurk and not contribute at all.

Mateo
July 29th, 2013, 04:21 AM
not even mad son

look how fast tdl crawled out of his hole when he got fosed

Dagaen
July 29th, 2013, 04:48 AM
Serial Killer
Arsonist
Witch
Executioner
Sheriff - Not RLVG
Sheriff- Not RLVG
Escort - Slaol
Escort - Titus
Doctor - Not RLVG
Citizen

/discuss

I guess it's possible. I could see Poriomania as Exec who tries to get me or PoD killed. Slaol could be also Jester, seeing how he is overly defensive and even dares us to lynch him. It should be obvious after tonight if both Esc/Cons-orts are telling the truth.

I don't like that you implying only neutral killers. This setup has no death descryptions, so if you are Mafia you could hide your killings easily and blame it on some neutral. Also one of Escort claimers could be Consort, but you don't even think about such possibility. Care to explain?


I'm just gonna lurk and not contribute at all.

Ok, you have my vote.

TheDarkestLight

Why such decision?

NoctiZ
July 29th, 2013, 05:23 AM
Titus is probably indeed Escort, Slaol is town atm.

TDL actively lurking seems kinda bad.

Dagaen sheeped that vote pretty easily.

Undecided about Mateo but if he proves himself useful then all is good.

Not much to say other than that.

Mateo
July 29th, 2013, 05:48 AM
im not useful but all is still good

RLVG
July 29th, 2013, 06:02 AM
I'm just gonna lurk and not contribute at all.

I don't even...

Mateo
July 29th, 2013, 08:05 AM
I don't even...

well how bout you vote for tdl so we can get some more pressure on him

RLVG
July 29th, 2013, 08:20 AM
well how bout you vote for tdl so we can get some more pressure on him

Nope.

Mateo
July 29th, 2013, 08:50 AM
Nope.

so in other words

you think hes jester and dont want to lynch him because you are evil neutral and would probably die tonight?

gotcha

RLVG

RLVG
July 29th, 2013, 09:01 AM
so in other words

you think hes jester and dont want to lynch him because you are evil neutral and would probably die tonight?

gotcha

RLVG

What kind of stupid deduction is this?

Mateo
July 29th, 2013, 09:45 AM
so then why are you afraid to lynch someone that said they arent gonna contribute and are going to aggressively lurk?

only reason to keep scum alive is if you are also scum

scum

NoctiZ
July 29th, 2013, 09:48 AM
because in reality its a TPR

Mateo
July 29th, 2013, 09:50 AM
nope

Dagaen
July 29th, 2013, 09:53 AM
I'm curious because after TDL wrote there is no reason to not pressure him. I don't know about you but right now I'd appreciate more input.

But ok, you have right yo your own opinion. So RLVG, please tell me why Poriomania is so scummy?

Mateo
July 29th, 2013, 09:56 AM
all rlvg has done is useless role speculation, get a tpr to out himself, and derail any pressure we build

nice

Dagaen
July 29th, 2013, 09:58 AM
Well, TDL is probably preparing Jester defence. The question: is it because he is Townie or because he is Maf/Evil?

RLVG
July 29th, 2013, 10:06 AM
Well, TDL is probably preparing Jester defence. The question: is it because he is Townie or because he is Maf/Evil?

We do not know if there are multiple jesters in the setup.

Mateo
July 29th, 2013, 10:09 AM
We do not know if there are multiple jesters in the setup.

oh and how could i forget

he also states the obvious

RLVG
July 29th, 2013, 10:17 AM
oh and how could i forget

he also states the obvious

It was not "obvious" to what I were trying to say.
PoD was pretty much pointed as Jester, but TDL is also acting like one.

Mateo
July 29th, 2013, 10:20 AM
It was not "obvious" to what I were trying to say.
PoD was pretty much pointed as Jester, but TDL is also acting like one.

so you admit your refusal to vote tdl is because you are afraid to lynch jester

good to know

RLVG
July 29th, 2013, 10:24 AM
so you admit your refusal to vote tdl is because you are afraid to lynch jester

good to know

I want to lynch actual scum, lol.

Mateo
July 29th, 2013, 10:26 AM
I want to lynch actual scum, lol.

so you know tdl isnt scum because you are the scum

alrighty then

RLVG
July 29th, 2013, 10:29 AM
so you know tdl isnt scum because you are the scum

alrighty then

Porio is scum... And most likely you.

/Thread

Titus
July 29th, 2013, 10:31 AM
Lynch me. See how good your reads are Titus, and then next game, please counterclaim me immediately as if no previous game ever happened.

Your anger is overdone. I did this the exact way I would have anyone else. I would alert that the claim is probably fake and pressure you for it. Now that you're exposed, rather than my initial attack on your claim, your anger starts to appear. I believe this is scum!anger not town!anger as Poriomania put it. Also, if you're an escort, why would you mind if I used my block on you or not?

Titus
July 29th, 2013, 10:32 AM
The point being, if we're both useless, we could block each other and have each other as confirmed town for a little while at least. Then, we can roleblock around the group eliminating people as the SK.

Mateo
July 29th, 2013, 10:37 AM
Porio is scum... And most likely you.

/Thread

impressive considering its still the first day

you already denied being doctor and sheriff, and we have 2 escort claims floating around

that would leave you as citizen or non town

it would be worth the risk to lynch you; if you are town you havent done shit all to help, just getting in the way

/discuss

RLVG
July 29th, 2013, 10:39 AM
it would be worth the risk to lynch you; if you are town you havent done shit all to help, just getting in the way

/discuss

Am I not always in the way?

Mateo
July 29th, 2013, 10:51 AM
Am I not always in the way?

yes

and its always worth the risk to lynch you

RLVG
July 29th, 2013, 10:55 AM
yes

and its always worth the risk to lynch you

This behavior of yours make me ponder: Are you scum?

Mateo
July 29th, 2013, 10:57 AM
This behavior of yours make me ponder: Are you scum?

you already stated that you thought i was scum in post 197

stop spinning your wheels and come up with something original?

scum

RLVG
July 29th, 2013, 10:59 AM
you already stated that you thought i was scum in post 197

stop spinning your wheels and come up with something original?

scum

You should start to properly contribute.

ika
July 29th, 2013, 11:09 AM
DAY OVER

sorz about delay. had to get new tags for car

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=july+30+13%3A00+CST

actions due one hr before day start

ika
July 30th, 2013, 11:01 AM
day 2

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=augest+1+13%3A00+CST

Graveyard:
NONE!



6

powerofdeath
July 30th, 2013, 11:03 AM
Post #1 Day 2

No death?
Anybody got any feedback that they were doused? Attacked and healed? Anything?

RLVG
July 30th, 2013, 11:05 AM
I was doused, yay.

powerofdeath
July 30th, 2013, 11:08 AM
Post #2 Day 2



arson
douse someone each night
dousing inform is off
if roleblocked you will douse the escort
when igniting immue to roleblokc
ignores vests
1 auto-vest

powerofdeath
July 30th, 2013, 11:09 AM
Post #3 Day 2

Dousing inform is off
RLVG

NoctiZ
July 30th, 2013, 11:09 AM
Sounds like easy Jester tactic.

RLVG
July 30th, 2013, 11:10 AM
Post #3 Day 2

Dousing inform is off
RLVG

My baiting on you failed. I knew that dousing inform is off, but you asked if someone was.

RLVG
July 30th, 2013, 11:22 AM
However, since PoD knew - maybe the baiting didn't fail after all. He knew that dousing is off.

Arsonist suspect, raised.

TheDarkestLight
July 30th, 2013, 11:24 AM
I was rbed last night my niggas.

RLVG
July 30th, 2013, 11:30 AM
I was rbed last night my niggas.

Citizen.
Sheriff.
Doctor.
Survivor.
Jester.
Executioner.
Arsonist.

Dagaen
July 30th, 2013, 11:32 AM
Wow, interesting night we had! Soo...Anybody attacked?

Dagaen
July 30th, 2013, 11:36 AM
Btw, PoD, it really looks weird that you asked if anyone was doused and 5 minutes later you are quoting the setup. Well, maybe it's some kind of special tactics...

TheDarkestLight
July 30th, 2013, 11:37 AM
Wow, interesting night we had! Soo...Anybody attacked?

Typically I only see scum say things like "Interesting night" "Wow that was a bad night..." "Oh hey that was a good night!" as an attempt to try to appeal to the current emotional state of the town.

Dagaen
July 30th, 2013, 11:42 AM
Looks like I don't fit the common pattern then.

TDL, you finally decided to not lurk?

TheDarkestLight
July 30th, 2013, 11:44 AM
Looks like I don't fit the common pattern then.

TDL, you finally decided to not lurk?

Possibly.

NoctiZ
July 30th, 2013, 11:45 AM
Hopefully.

powerofdeath
July 30th, 2013, 11:48 AM
Post #4 Day 2



TDL its clearly you did not read this day at all.

Slaol and Titus clearly said do not reveal roleblocks. They are trying to prove their innocence.

Which one of you escorts roleblocked TDL?

TheDarkestLight
July 30th, 2013, 11:50 AM
Post #4 Day 2



TDL its clearly you did not read this day at all.

Slaol and Titus clearly said do not reveal roleblocks. They are trying to prove their innocence.

Which one of you escorts roleblocked TDL?

Oh I read today, I just didn't read most of yesterday. :)

Besides PoD, blame yourself, you're the one who asked for night feedback, maybe not specifically, but you said anything, RBing counts as something.

powerofdeath
July 30th, 2013, 11:50 AM
Post #4 Day 2

Noctiz and TDL, your reads on everyone please?
Both of you lurked too much on Day 1.

powerofdeath
July 30th, 2013, 11:52 AM
Post #5 Day 2

TheDarkestLight

Non-towns does not have any reason to read Day 1.

I suggest you to roleclaim.

TheDarkestLight
July 30th, 2013, 11:53 AM
Post #5 Day 2

TheDarkestLight

Non-towns does not have any reason to read Day 1.

I suggest you to roleclaim.

I could, but what if something bad happens? D:

TheDarkestLight
July 30th, 2013, 11:56 AM
Post #5 Day 2

TheDarkestLight

Non-towns does not have any reason to read Day 1.

I suggest you to roleclaim.

You seem to have two Post #4. So if I'm correct this is post 6. Do you have a reason as to why you failed at counting?

NoctiZ
July 30th, 2013, 11:56 AM
I posted some reads yesterday, they are more than enough POD. I also gave my thoughts without talking too much shit. What else would you want, more crap to sift through?

RLVG
July 30th, 2013, 11:57 AM
Question:

What if this was a double arsonist+witch setup?

Arsonists douse roleblockers, like SK kills roleblockers.



Escorts, claim if you got doused ASAP.

TheDarkestLight
July 30th, 2013, 11:58 AM
Question:

What if this was a double arsonist+witch setup?

Arsonists douse roleblockers, like SK kills roleblockers.



Escorts, claim if you got doused ASAP.

I don't think they know if they got doused even if it is from a faulty role-block.

RLVG
July 30th, 2013, 12:07 PM
I don't think they know if they got doused even if it is from a faulty role-block.

You're ruining my plan, making scum think they can still claim doused by claiming escort. :p

Slaol
July 30th, 2013, 12:09 PM
I was role blocked, attacked and healed.

Mateo
July 30th, 2013, 12:09 PM
your plan is shit

poriomania

i see you lurking

Dagaen
July 30th, 2013, 12:09 PM
I was doused, yay.


My baiting on you failed. I knew that dousing inform is off, but you asked if someone was.


Question:

What if this was a double arsonist+witch setup?

Arsonists douse roleblockers, like SK kills roleblockers.



Escorts, claim if you got doused ASAP.

Looks like RLVG can't decide on what he knows. First he claims being doused, then he confirms that victim doesn't know about dousing, then he asks escorts if they were doused.

RLVG

NoctiZ
July 30th, 2013, 12:10 PM
I was role blocked, attacked and healed.

Hooray for doctors!

Slaol
July 30th, 2013, 12:10 PM
Titus, I really hope you are as bad as I expected from day 1 and actually role blocked me. Please uninstall s-FMs.

Dagaen
July 30th, 2013, 12:10 PM
You're ruining my plan, making scum think they can still claim doused by claiming escort. :p

Can you explain your plan? I have boogers instead of brain today.

TheDarkestLight
July 30th, 2013, 12:12 PM
You're ruining my plan, making scum think they can still claim doused by claiming escort. :p

But PoD already posted Arsonist role card. I don't think anyone would be that dumb.



RLVG is Jester because yesterday he asked if there were two Jesters after thinking I was and I don't recall anyone stating anyone else was Jester, which means he was talking about himself. Then tries to cover it up by saying PoD is Jester.

/discuss -as RLVG likes to say-

Slaol
July 30th, 2013, 12:13 PM
I was planning on reserving out if Titus actually went through with that role block, instead I've decided to not do that as my replacement would know about as little about what what I'm saying means as Titus does.

RLVG
July 30th, 2013, 12:16 PM
I was role blocked, attacked and healed.

Slaol is scum.

Slaol

- CONSORT
mafia member
roleblock someone each night
can be sent for kills
immune to roleblock
shares night chat with mafia

- ESCORT
role block someone each night
immune to roleblock
not informed of immunity

Slaol
July 30th, 2013, 12:16 PM
You're fucking retarded RLVG.

Poriomania
July 30th, 2013, 12:17 PM
Mateo: I'm doing this on my phone.

I want to lynch Dagaen or TDL today.

TheDarkestLight
July 30th, 2013, 12:17 PM
Slaol is scum.

Slaol

- CONSORT
mafia member
roleblock someone each night
can be sent for kills
immune to roleblock
shares night chat with mafia

- ESCORT
role block someone each night
immune to roleblock
not informed of immunity

That means he is not informed of his TARGET being immune.

Jester scum.

Mateo
July 30th, 2013, 12:18 PM
Mateo: I'm doing this on my phone.

I want to lynch Dagaen or TDL today.

care to explain why?

RLVG
July 30th, 2013, 12:19 PM
You're fucking retarded RLVG.

Why?

You should not be able to know if you were roleblocked.

Slaol
July 30th, 2013, 12:19 PM
Operation WIFOM: Part II
I am a Doctor, and Titus is a moron for blocking me. Funny that there was another.

Dagaen
July 30th, 2013, 12:20 PM
Is Escort notified that somebody tried to roleblock her?

If not, my vote will go on Slaol. In the meantime I'd like RLVG to explain his "plan" (trap for scum claiming escorts or smth, I don't really get it).

Poriomania, that's quite interesting that you are still focusing on me. Any reason why?

Slaol
July 30th, 2013, 12:20 PM
Why?

You should not be able to know if you were roleblocked.

You so bad.

TheDarkestLight
July 30th, 2013, 12:20 PM
Why?

You should not be able to know if you were roleblocked.

U derp.