S-FM 98 One vs All

[powerofdeath]

A man escaped to this country all alone with a wanted bounty on him.

He hacked into the Government System and launched a nuke at his ex girlfriend house.
Millions of lives was gone.

Everyone in the country work for the FBI for the USA.
This small country have the lowest populated people in the world.
And they are all out to capture this madman.

Will he live and control the country? Will he be able to kill everyone who is hunting him for 20 billions? Or will he finally be captured.

He is all alone, everyone is against him.

Its him vs everyone!

4

Day end at this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=6%3A00+PM+EST+july+20%2C+2013)
Click here for set up (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21475-SFM-One-vs-All)

1. Damus_Grave
2. Ika
3. Dagaen
4. Orpz
5. CarolinaCrown
6. Frostbyte
7. RLVG

[RLVG]

Whoa, sup. Meow. Whatever.

[RLVG]

ika

Reaction test, pressure, obviously not a fishing for RP.

Dude, link the setup will you?

[powerofdeath]

ika

Reaction test, pressure, obviously not a fishing for RP.

Dude, link the setup will you?

Couldve asked nicely

[ika]

I'm at work so I'm on iPod I will post in morn when I'm not on it

[ika]

Anywa scincwe are doing random voting orpz

[Dagaen]

ika

Hi, I don't usually do random voting, but let's try it. Maybe it's fun, who knows.

[Dagaen]

Ika, you are on L-2! Talk!

[CarolinaCrown]

orpz

Double pressure is doubly efficient

[Damus_Graves]

Heylo

[Orpz]

Hi I'm Town
Hi

[Orpz]

ika

I am aware that he is now L-1. This is intended.

[Damus_Graves]

ika

I am aware that he is now L-1. This is intended.

Thats really not smart at all.

[Orpz]

Controversial

[Damus_Graves]

Well not really. See the age old logic that scum wont hammer because it will reveal them is very weak to begin with and it is rarely ever used at all. Putting someone at L-1 tends to cause more mislynches than a framer would, as a small example. Scum have evolved, if you will, to be able to identify a train to solidify and jump on it early enough to avoid suspicion and hammer the towns attention onto one person for the day. Ika being put at L-1 so early and so easily is very very worrying. Town, as a whole, should not be so eager to lynch. While Ika is not helping at all by his trolling on day one it is just as trolly to L-1 someone on day one as well

[ika]

dont have time to post due to crap internet but im just gonna say this now.

in b4 scum hammers. i will be on when my internet works again. i have set an alarm to get me up.

if town wants to start day one with a myslynch then im the perficate canidate for it

[Orpz]

I see.

I wasn't planning to keep him L-1 before I got off. I was confident that scum would not hammer him in their first post in a few hours. They would make some on-topic posts and hopefully talked about Ika being L-1, and I would unvote immediately following to prevent an accident. This was maybe too risky of a move but I was hoping it'd get some relevant posts rather than "lol let's random pressure and leave".

[Damus_Graves]

I see.

I wasn't planning to keep him L-1 before I got off. I was confident that scum would not hammer him in their first post in a few hours. They would make some on-topic posts and hopefully talked about Ika being L-1, and I would unvote immediately following to prevent an accident. This was maybe too risky of a move but I was hoping it'd get some relevant posts rather than "lol let's random pressure and leave".

I don't blame you for trying if that makes things better. I would have done something a but similar.

[Orpz]

Do you still plan to do it? Votes are back to status quo before I logged on.

[Damus_Graves]

No. I am going to go on a different path here.

[ika]

ok im up now and back as promised. im still tired thought becasue i only got like 4 hrs of sleep so i am like half here i have my laptop in front of me but still gonna try to be sleeping. if you guys want anything from me nows your chance.

[RLVG]

Skip

[Dagaen]

We want you to confess EVERYTHING!

[Dagaen]

Ech, fine.

Skip

[ika]

*comes on and doesnt see much*

*leaves to check others*

[ika]

but i do want to ask this, whats with the skip?

[RLVG]

but i do want to ask this, whats with the skip?

Everyone's being equally as stupid and some reads has been made. Beneficially, a skip can help more than to cause wrong reads.

[Dagaen]

I'm just going with the flow:D

[ika]

Everyone's being equally as stupid and some reads has been made. Beneficially, a skip can help more than to cause wrong reads.

i think we can discuss things then. dagaen why do you sheep with everyone?

[ika]

Everyone's being equally as stupid and some reads has been made. Beneficially, a skip can help more than to cause wrong reads.

also by everyone, are you including youself?

[RLVG]

also by everyone, are you including youself?

Yes. You know, reactions.

[ika]

Yes. You know, reactions.

k. what you think about dagon sheeping with everyone right now?

[ika]

wait a minuite...

are citizens a possiblity?

the setup doesnt inclued it.

[Dagaen]

Because I feel like it.

Also: call me either Dragon or Dagaen. Dagon is just...lame.

[RLVG]

Because I feel like it.

Also: call me either Dragon or Dagaen. Dagon is just...lame.

Sure, Dragonite.

[Dagaen]

Dragonite is also fine ^^

[ika]

Because I feel like it.

Also: call me either Dragon or Dagaen. Dagon is just...lame.

so if i say i feel like voting you its immitaly justfied?

lets test it dagon

[Dagaen]

I will return to sheeping in a moment.

Frostbyte

This guy needs to be encouraged to talk.

[Damus_Graves]

orpz

Double pressure is doubly efficient

CarolinaCrown

For reasons such as sheeping, lurking, useless drivel.

[RLVG]

Agreed.

... Who wouldn't want to lynch a Crown?

CarolinaCrown

[CarolinaCrown]

wah

[ika]

I would like to hear from caroline but at same time day ends in aprox 3 hrs so im conflicted between voting and waiting.....

fuck it

CarolinaCrown

there hasnt been much but caroline can give her imput on why it was sheeping with me. that was the only post and i known her to be more active

[CarolinaCrown]

I would like to hear from caroline but at same time day ends in aprox 3 hrs so im conflicted between voting and waiting.....

fuck it

CarolinaCrown

there hasnt been much but caroline can give her imput on why it was sheeping with me. that was the only post and i known her to be more active

YOU DON'T KNOW ME

There's just not much to do. I'm never active Day 1.

I just wanted to be like everybody else :C

[CarolinaCrown]

(also *him, I know the name's confusing)

[ika]

YOU DON'T KNOW ME

There's just not much to do. I'm never active Day 1.

I just wanted to be like everybody else :C

but not everyone did sheeping, damus made justifications, however im surpiised he didnt get onto dagon about his sheeping.

i was considering a role call but it seems like there wont be enough time to do it. maybe tomorow we can.

if damus can think of more reason to vote you for a hammer i will revote you becasue damus ideal of voting you and not dagon is slightly odd

[unvote]/unvote]

[ika]

god damn it

[Dagaen]

Well, right now it's 1v6, if we mislynch then it's 1v5 and tomorrow will be 2v4...And we will have MILO.

Hell, we can risk it and lynch someone for the fun! Should I hammer?:D

[Dagaen]

Oh well, I can't anymore.

[ika]

honestly with this scnario we can afford it unless caronline is gonna claim in the next few. and also it is not a garentted 2v4 tom

CarolinaCrown

possibles for tommorow

2v4
1v5
1v4

it will all depend what happens tom, before you hammer see if caroline will come and claim

[RLVG]

Inb4 we lynch GF

[ika]

Inb4 we lynch GF

i will lolz so hard at it, i say tom we do role call if its not gf

[ika]

we got 3 hrs too but i will be gone soon. so if he doesnt come on in about like 1-2 hrs go ahead with it

[Orpz]

Lynch number is 4, ika. Did you intentionally put him at L-1?
Carolina, do you know you are at L-1? "I want to be like everyone else" "I don't say that much D1" => Not a good town reaction at all.
If he doesn't say anything more, I would want to lynch him.

[Dagaen]

I'll be around so I can give 4th vote.

Can I use golden hammer?

[ika]

Lynch number is 4, ika. Did you intentionally put him at L-1?
Carolina, do you know you are at L-1? "I want to be like everyone else" "I don't say that much D1" => Not a good town reaction at all.
If he doesn't say anything more, I would want to lynch him.

well dagon brings up a point that its right now 1v5 so we can either lynch today or tomorrow

tome it would be this scnario
with lynch:
1v5 (no recruit)
2v4 (recrits)
1v4 (if gf kills)
without
1v6 (no recuit)
2v5 (recuirt)
1v5 (kills)

this is ony under assumptionwe either
A) dont have doc
B) doc fails heal on kill

if we do no lynch today and myslynch tom with recuit it would be 2v4 then a kill would make 2v3

best option for us town right now is to lynch and hope for the best. maybe we can hit the recurit/escort on lynch to make gf job harder

[ika]

I'll be around so I can give 4th vote.

Can I use golden hammer?

give caroline one more hr. then im gonna have to get ready for work. i rather see if hes gonna come on

[ika]

i want to see if hes gonna claim role or just not show and be like whatever.

[CarolinaCrown]

jesus you guys are serious about this

Well if'n it's a claim you want, it's a claim you're-a gonna get!
I'm an ESCORT. Not gonna do anything tonight because I can ONLY do damage while the GF is alone.

[ika]

well im CC your escort i hinted towrd my secort claim eary in the day saing when i was tired and gonna sleep in bed. i doubt the host put 2 esctorts in this game

[ika]

the role list i think it is

Godfather
Random Town escort
Random Town sheriff
Random Town doctor
Random Town recuit
Random Town recurit
Random Town recutit

apparently there no citizen in this setup. however looking at role card of gf its plausable that 2 escorts exist. i will let others decide on what we do with this

[CarolinaCrown]

well im CC your escort i hinted towrd my secort claim eary in the day saing when i was tired and gonna sleep in bed. i doubt the host put 2 esctorts in this game

Doubt all you want, I think it's very possible given the nature of the escort in this particular game.

I believe you ika, particularly when you said "I'm the perfect candidate for a mislynch," that indicated to me that you were a Recruit or an Escort.

[Damus_Graves]

the role list i think it is

Godfather
Random Town escort
Random Town sheriff
Random Town doctor
Random Town recuit
Random Town recurit
Random Town recutit

apparently there no citizen in this setup. however looking at role card of gf its plausable that 2 escorts exist. i will let others decide on what we do with this

This is a misguided statement. There are most likely two recruits and one average citizen to maintain balance and not leave GF all alone.

[Orpz]

I strongly believe it's 2 Escorts because 1 Escort would be useless the entire game. 2 Escorts would have the chance of 1 of them being useful if the other is recruited. No escort is just improbable.
and Recruit = Citizen.

[ika]

Possible Random Towns: Recruit, Escort, sheriff, doctor

taken straigt from setup. no possible citizens

[ika]

well if thats the case we are both escorts.

i bet tom one of us will be a contsort. tom i offer myself to be lynch if there is no kill.

[ika]

what about our afk player?

[ika]

well i think its in our best intrest to lynch today and then pick between us tomorrow on who to lynch becasue i expect the gf to target one of us now that its obvious.

i think everyone should just role calim at this poitn and go from there

[Damus_Graves]

what about our afk player?

Excuse me. I misspoke.

Godfather
Escort
Sheriff
Doctor
Doctor
Recruit
Recruit

[ika]

FrostByte

for now unless anyone else has a better idea

[RLVG]

the role list i think it is

Godfather
Random Town escort
Random Town sheriff
Random Town doctor
Random Town recuit
Random Town recurit
Random Town recutit

apparently there no citizen in this setup. however looking at role card of gf its plausable that 2 escorts exist. i will let others decide on what we do with this

One escort means a recruited escort, lynch one - lynch the other.
Beneficial move : GF recruits, pushes a lynch.

[ika]

Excuse me. I misspoke.

Godfather
Escort
Sheriff
Doctor
Doctor
Recruit
Recruit

damus to you wish to claima slot, what about you RLVG any claims you shit to make, i have an idea on what damus might be.

and double escort seems more plausable then double doc becasue how gf loses his immunity

[ika]

damus to you wish to claima slot, what about you RLVG any claims you wish to make, i have an idea on what damus might be.

and double escort seems more plausable then double doc becasue how gf loses his immunity

fixed one word

[Orpz]

I'm not sure I agree with ika's plan to lynch one of the Escorts. What if GF doesn't recruit a Consort? Then they both would be as useless night actionwise as Citizens.

RLVG

[ika]

hmmmm.... well if we have 2 escorts it might be better to rid of one becasue that would mean if gf tries to recuit me riff can check me and know for sure instead of random guessing. i am gonna take no action.

CarolinaCrown

riff on me tonight im not doing anything.

[ika]

we lynch one, riff on me to make sure gf doesnt target me or he will wast time doing it. with one escort gone gf will have a harder time

[CarolinaCrown]

we lynch one, riff on me to make sure gf doesnt target me or he will wast time doing it. with one escort gone gf will have a harder time

As much as I would like to stay alive, there is some logic to this. Then again, ika could be GF

[ika]

orpz i do agree RLVG hasnt done much but i think taking one escort out will cause gf to have harder time trying.

Doc on riff (if doc knows), riff on me, i take no action

[ika]

As much as I would like to stay alive, there is some logic to this. Then again, ika could be GF

could but isnt. if it will help i will glady be lynch tomorrow, 1 escort seems dum to have if gf immune it would only hinder towns if not recuited, this will help us more then it would help gf

[Damus_Graves]

I do have a claim I can make. However there is no need for me to make it.

[ika]

I do have a claim I can make. However there is no need for me to make it.

you agree with my plan then?

[RLVG]

Ika claims Escort.

GF immune to roleblock.
GF no longer immune to roleblock, if he already had recruit a consort.

= the setup wants 2 escorts.

[ika]

Ika claims Escort.

GF immune to roleblock.
GF no longer immune to roleblock, if he already had recruit a consort.

= the setup wants 2 escorts.

thats why i was saying if we lynch one and have a riff on me the gf wouldnt dare recuit me.

host could also only put one but if we take out one and have riff on me it will make sure gf wont touch me and then i can go and block masifo if recuit is sucess

[ika]

As much as I would like to stay alive, there is some logic to this. Then again, ika could be GF

this also seems to be a projection of a role trying to derail the train onto me, dagon if you come on go ahead and hammer

[ika]

Ika claims Escort.

GF immune to roleblock.
GF no longer immune to roleblock, if he already had recruit a consort.

= the setup wants 2 escorts.

also if we leave 2 escorts it can cause a a delema becasue both escort would be stabbing at each others throaths tom

[CarolinaCrown]

this also seems to be a projection of a role trying to derail the train onto me, dagon if you come on go ahead and hammer

man I just don't wanna die! Dying sucks!

Also we should look at GF night actions this way: he can kill or recruit. A recruit is like 1.5 kills because you're down one enemy and UP an ally, it just doesn't have quite as much a chance to succeed as a kill. So if the GF recruits ika (or me for that matter) and the sheriff is on one of us and we lynch the converted, the GF is no worse off than if he had just went for a kill.

[ika]

well gf could do a no recuit on either of us and try someone else causing us to keep accusing each other. if one of us gets cleared and other still flips escort then we are put in a delema its better to risk one escort now then latter

[Dagaen]

I don't like this plan.

Since we have 2 Escorts out we should lynch silent guy and hope for gf. No reason to lynch Townies.

[ika]

also prettymuch by now the gf would of hammered byt his point becasue theres not mcuh else to discuss so anyone can hammer now.

dagon you said you wanted to hameer what with the 180?

[ika]

you also came up with the idea that lynch today is best option.

[ika]

also host meta states he random.org roles

[ika]

well i got to get ready for work i might be able to check in near end of day but one thing for sure our best bet is to lynh caroline and then maybe go after dagon becasue of his 180 he just made

[Damus_Graves]

Im expecting the Godfather to be either Frostbyte or Dagaeon

[Damus_Graves]

Work. Goodbye

[Dagaen]

I'll be around for the next 2 hours. If you don't want me to hammer - unvote.

See? I don't hammer instantly. Gimme some town points for that!

[CarolinaCrown]

I don't like this plan.

Since we have 2 Escorts out we should lynch silent guy and hope for gf. No reason to lynch Townies.

It does seem a bit counterintuitive to lynch someone you think is town (at least, it seems like you guys believe me). ika's got fair logic but at the end of the day our population is limited.

[ika]

It does seem a bit counterintuitive to lynch someone you think is town (at least, it seems like you guys believe me). ika's got fair logic but at the end of the day our population is limited.

2 escorts at each other is more problomatic for town then gf becasue if we are both alive come the end of it gf has too many options. just allow the lynch the afk will be replaced

[ika]

I'll be around for the next 2 hours. If you don't want me to hammer - unvote.

See? I don't hammer instantly. Gimme some town points for that!

we had enought dicussion for the most part if you try to delay hammer by waiting till day closes you will prob be lynch priority number 1 tom i have to head to work i better see a lynch when i get on break

[CarolinaCrown]

well Damus is gone for work and ika seems hell-bent on killing me, so RLVG you're the only one I can ask for mercy. Dagaen (not dagon) is gonna lynch me at day's end if you don't unvote.

ika I don't really understand your logic that well. We can just have the sheriff keep an eye on us. A second escort could even benefit us if one of us is converted. I think the benefits of having an extra escort (and hell, an extra townie) outweigh the cons.

Is no one else just a TINY bit suspicous that ika is trying to hard to lynch me? I'm not sayin' I know anything, but the man's on a mission.

[CarolinaCrown]

...trying so hard to lynch me

typo

[powerofdeath]

wait a minuite...

are citizens a possiblity?

the setup doesnt inclued it.

Recruits are citizens


I'll be around so I can give 4th vote.

Can I use golden hammer?

Its your choice.

[Dagaen]

With Golden Hammer +2 (+4 against Townies) I have the power of death!

CarolinaCrown

Thank you for pronouncing my name correctly:)

[The Godfather]

CarolinaCrown has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


CarolinaCrown ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/4675') (4 [L-0]): RLVG ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=352382'), ika ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=352464'), Dagaen ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=352503'), Damus_Graves ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=352379')
Orpz ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/8576') (1 [L-3]): CarolinaCrown ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=352236')
RLVG ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/6656') (1 [L-3]): Orpz ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=352463')

[powerofdeath]

7 men was gathered together to talk it out. Each one of them are trying to figure out who launched the nuke.
They all suspected CarolinaCrown. He and Ika counterclaimed eachother. In the end, they all turned against CarolinaCrown.
He tried to use his FBI skill to escape. He called for a helicopter. It landed quickly, he jumped in and then the helicopter flied up and drove away to somewhere else. Frostbyte took out his RPG7 and aim at the helicopter. He then fired his RPG7. It was a direct hit. The helicopter crashed. They found CarolinaCrown dead on the ground.

Carolina was the escort. Frostbyte was fired for launching the RPG7. Chane came in and replaced him.

1. Damus_Grave
2. Ika
3. Dagaen
4. Orpz
5. CarolinaCrown - Escort
6. Frostbyte Chane
7. RLVG


Day begin at this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=6%3A00+PM+EST+july+21%2C+2013)

[powerofdeath]

Day 2 has begun!

People are still searching everywhere for this man.
Nobody was killed last night.

I am beginning this earlier because Im busy in few hours and everyone submitted their night actions early.

Alive players
1. Damus_Grave
2. Ika
3. Dagaen
4. Orpz
5. CarolinaCrown - Escort
6. Frostbyte Chane
7. RLVG

Day end at this time! (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2%3A00+PM+EST+july+22%2C+2013)

[ika]

FIRST BITCH

[Damus_Graves]

I'd like to open up aggressively here. I went back and read a few posts of certain members and found them mostly wanting. I believe that because of his lack of a position in the day chat but such willingness to hammer leads me to believe that Dagaen has been recruited, which he was showing tells of being a recruit yesterday, and is now mafia aligned. I believe that ika is still escort-ly, I am clearly town still, and Chane is a nonentity here, with the host confirming everyone sent in actions thus making him townish due to outside the game meta. That leaves Dagaen and Orpz as the possible mafia.

Orpz

[ika]

with still 4 votes to lynch i am tempted to vote with damus but the day begun. I dont want to see a blitz hammer and us losing game. i havework soon so if none come on i will put my vote down but for now i rather wait for others.

[RLVG]

Greetings.

I am the Sheriff.

I knew what would happen, so I investigated ika this night.
He came up as Mafia.



Since ika is now confirmed Mafia, I want to request ignoring him as the GF can re-recruit.
We'll lynch ika the Consort after the GF has been lynched.

[ika]

AFK now. this game is dead to me

[Damus_Graves]

RLVG if you knew it was gonna happen why did you check him?
RLVG why would you reveal knowing ika was a consort now?

[RLVG]

RLVG if you knew it was gonna happen why did you check him?
RLVG why would you reveal knowing ika was a consort now?

1. He claimed Consort. GF can recruit a Consort.
2. The GF is immune to investigations.

From 2, we need to out the GF and lynch him. It's confirmed GG if we lynch the GF and then ika the Consort since Consort's can't recruit.
If we lynch ika, the GF will recruit someone - since I already confirmed myself Sheriff, he'll avoid attempting to recruit me as it fails.

[RLVG]

1. He claimed Consort.

Escort, pardon. But he's now a Consort.

[Damus_Graves]

I suppose. You are now useless as a sheriff since ika shall just roleblock you if we fail to lynch gf.

Rlvg, who do you suspect?

[RLVG]

I suppose. You are now useless as a sheriff since ika shall just roleblock you if we fail to lynch gf.

Rlvg, who do you suspect?

We'll lose if we mislynch.

4v2
- Lynch
3v2
- Kill
2v2

From my analyzis, I suspect Damus_Graves and Orpz.


Hi I'm Town


Excuse me. I misspoke.

Godfather
Escort
Sheriff
Doctor
Doctor
Recruit
Recruit


I do have a claim I can make. However there is no need for me to make it.

[Damus_Graves]

Ah I see. Interesting I suppose. Why dont you suspect Dagaeon or Chane?

[ika]

skip

[RLVG]

I want Damus and Orpz to claim their roles. Damus apparantly soft-claims Doctor in my view.

[Damus_Graves]

I want Damus and Orpz to claim their roles. Damus apparantly soft-claims Doctor in my view.

Recruit

[RLVG]

Recruit

Yet you put two doctors. Why?

[RLVG]

Role List :
- Godfather
- Escort
- Escort
- Sheriff
- Doctor
- Recruit
- Recruit
That's what I personally think.
2X escort and 1X sheriff confirmed, having a third Escort is too stupid and 2X doctors with 1 Recruit would be imbalanced.

[Damus_Graves]

Yet you put two doctors. Why?

To cause the Godfather to miscalculate. Ika ruined it.

[RLVG]

To cause the Godfather to miscalculate. Ika ruined it.

That took long enough to respond.
However: The Godfather should know his role first before others.

That means he know about this line :
Lose immunity to roleblock if you have a consort.

= No witch or bus driver. This mechanic explicitly says "There is 2X escorts."

[Damus_Graves]

That took long enough to respond.
However: The Godfather should know his role first before others.

That means he know about this line :
Lose immunity to roleblock if you have a consort.

= No witch or bus driver. This mechanic explicitly says "There is 2X escorts."

I was talking to fred about keeper stuff lol.

I knew that when the game started. I was banking on the GF to not. Once agian. Ika

[RLVG]

I was talking to fred about keeper stuff lol.

I knew that when the game started. I was banking on the GF to not. Once agian. Ika

That's enough for now.

orpz

Frostbyte was replaced, bad meta but the GF did an action. Ika confirmed Consort. I'm the sheriff.
= Damus, Dagaen, Orpz.

From understanding Damus, I'd like to put him off the list.

Orpz did a trollish "I'm town." which is a higher alert than Dagaen.

[Dagaen]

Ok, I guess this is a role-call day.

I am a Recruit.

I didn't try to pass as Town yesterday and did my best to attract attention - I am still Town, so that means my strategy was succesful.

So New Guy is GF after all?

[Orpz]

Recruit. I don't believe I trolled D1 this time at all, wtf?

Frostbyte is Doctor from lack of Doctor claims, and I FoS Damus.
Dagaen's overly aggressiveness with the votes is not the play of a cautious Mafia, and from this setup I highly expect the Mafia to be cautious on Day 1 and then be more aggressive when they have a buddy, as a mistake on the first day can cost them the game. Damus played much more cautiously than Dagaen.

Damus_Graves

[Damus_Graves]

Recruit. I don't believe I trolled D1 this time at all, wtf?

Frostbyte is Doctor from lack of Doctor claims, and I FoS Damus.
Dagaen's overly aggressiveness with the votes is not the play of a cautious Mafia, and from this setup I highly expect the Mafia to be cautious on Day 1 and then be more aggressive when they have a buddy, as a mistake on the first day can cost them the game. Damus played much more cautiously than Dagaen.

Damus_Graves

Lol

[Dagaen]

It's 4v2 right now so I won't get further than L-2.

Chane, your thoughts?

[RLVG]

Recruit. I don't believe I trolled D1 this time at all, wtf?

Frostbyte is Doctor from lack of Doctor claims, and I FoS Damus.
Dagaen's overly aggressiveness with the votes is not the play of a cautious Mafia, and from this setup I highly expect the Mafia to be cautious on Day 1 and then be more aggressive when they have a buddy, as a mistake on the first day can cost them the game. Damus played much more cautiously than Dagaen.

Damus_Graves

Well, it's a gamble between you and Damus.

[Orpz]

Well, it's a gamble between you and Damus.

I don't think it's a hard choice. :huh: I put down my suspicions and Damus didn't try to refute it.

[Damus_Graves]

I work bro.

[Damus_Graves]

tl;dr The reason its Orpz for me is because he instantly focused on me without stopping to consider anything else thats in the realm of possibilities. While it is logical to deduce the scum between the two of us it is more likely to be Orpz than it would be to have myself as mafia. Additionally, I placed my votes first and foremost which is above all things the riskiest thing for a scum to do as it does attract attention. A town however fears no attention and thus I am town.

[Chane]

just got back from diner, I have mixed thoughts atm. I am not entirely confinced that Orpz is GF just yet however his defense post seemed rather aggressive in nature. Based on Damus his play and if I remember him correctly this is his town playstyle.

furthermore I have observed that Damus has been actively scumhunting a lot more then Orpz, it is hard to explain but Orpz seems more scumish in his reaction.

RLVG is confirmed to me as Sher, I haven't gotten a full read on Dagon yet, however I found one post to be a tad weird:

"Ok, I guess this is a role-call day.

I am a Recruit.

I didn't try to pass as Town yesterday and did my best to attract attention - I am still Town, so that means my strategy was succesful.

So New Guy is GF after all?"

I think the claim was a bit early and a bit to preemptive, however I am not drawing conclusions just yet, I think I will vote on Orpz but I'd like to discuss this a bit more to not put him in lynch range of Ika + gf.

I suspect that role list to be like this:

GF
Consort
Escort
Doctor
Sheriff
Recruit/Doctor
Recruit

I heard somebody say he random.org'd the roles, anybody has confirmation on this?

[Chane]

that pretty much summed up my thoughts of the game so far, I haven't been able to scumhunt day1 as I am a replacement but I'll now consider both Damus and Orpz and see if I draw any conclusions when reading it better.

[Dagaen]

Another person calling me Dagon. Damn you Ika.

As I said: I didn't try to pass as town yesterday because I am a Recruit. I'm not a good troll, but I did my best to be worst possible target for Mafs. Anyway, we have no reason to doubt Sheriff that Ika is Mafia so you know I wasn't recruited last night. And it would be hell of a gamble to troll as gf.

"I do have a claim I can make. However there is no need for me to make it. " - That's a weird thing to say as a Recruit, but Damus was always a mystery for me.

Chane, I don't know what's weird with my claim - looks like everybody claimed their roles already. Your turn now.

List of claims:

Dagaen - Recruit
RLVG - Sheriff
Damus_Graves - Recrut
Oprz - Recruit
Ika - Escort/Consort
Chane - ???

Claim or die, dude.

[Chane]

It seems to me that Orpz is soft-claiming recruit (if I am not mistaken, he doesn't specify it but I am gathering it from his posts) and damus and dagon as well, one of them is a false-claim, damus has been a lot more open and dagon has a decent town-claim (although I still find it a bit quick to claim) as it is likely to be damus or Orpz, call it bouncing the ball but I would like Dagon's opinion on Damus and Orpz before committing to a possible loss here, today is gonna be risky however you look at it.

3v2 if we misslynch
2v2 after kill
3v2 if heal

furthermore I'd like both Orpz and Damus his opinion on all the remaining players (besides RLVG as his claim wasn't contested)

[RLVG]

Dagaen - Recruit
RLVG - Sheriff
Damus_Graves - Recrut
Oprz - Recruit
Ika - Escort/Consort
Chane - ???

Claim or die, dude.

3 recruits are logically stupid. There should be one doctor. Dragonite and Damus is the recruits, Chane should be the doctor (Meta: Replacement).

[Chane]

Another person calling me Dagon. Damn you Ika.

As I said: I didn't try to pass as town yesterday because I am a Recruit. I'm not a good troll, but I did my best to be worst possible target for Mafs. Anyway, we have no reason to doubt Sheriff that Ika is Mafia so you know I wasn't recruited last night. And it would be hell of a gamble to troll as gf.

"I do have a claim I can make. However there is no need for me to make it. " - That's a weird thing to say as a Recruit, but Damus was always a mystery for me.

Chane, I don't know what's weird with my claim - looks like everybody claimed their roles already. Your turn now.

List of claims:

Dagaen - Recruit
RLVG - Sheriff
Damus_Graves - Recrut
Oprz - Recruit
Ika - Escort/Consort
Chane - ???

Claim or die, dude.

my claim should come to no surprise, I am doctor.

[Chane]

I actually healed RLVG last night as I highly suspected him to be sheriff (just following instinct besides that he stayed a bit passive day1 yet didn't seem like a lurking gf)

[RLVG]

my claim should come to no surprise, I am doctor.

There's no CC here.

[Chane]

There's no CC here.

IF we have 2 doctors one of the Recruit claims might be a doctor as well, but one of them is also the GF, Orpz has a point that Damus didn't solidly dispute his claim yet which is why I haven't voted him yet, I find Dagon's claim to be the strongest, his townclaim that is.

[Dagaen]

Right now I think Damus is better target than Orpz, but I have little experience with both of them.

Also: we can lynch Ika, making it 4v1. We know that GF probably claimed Recruit.

Tomorrow it will be 3v2, but Sheriff will check one of the Recruits so we will know who lies. And it will be 50-50 chance to lynch GF. How that sounds for you?

Sure, today is also 50-50, because GF is probably Damus or Orpz, but it's 50-50 only for me, because I know I am Recruit. Also Chane could be easily GF, seeing that nobody claimed Doc.

[Chane]

Right now I think Damus is better target than Orpz, but I have little experience with both of them.

Also: we can lynch Ika, making it 4v1. We know that GF probably claimed Recruit.

Tomorrow it will be 3v2, but Sheriff will check one of the Recruits so we will know who lies. And it will be 50-50 chance to lynch GF. How that sounds for you?

Sure, today is also 50-50, because GF is probably Damus or Orpz, but it's 50-50 only for me, because I know I am Recruit. Also Chane could be easily GF, seeing that nobody claimed Doc.

lyncing Ika is an option as well as it would shut off the Role block, however I don't really like the idea of granting GF another new recruit, he already knows who the sheriff and doctor are by now and he will probably recruit rather then kill if we lynch Ika.

[RLVG]

lyncing Ika is an option as well as it would shut off the Role block, however I don't really like the idea of granting GF another new recruit, he already knows who the sheriff and doctor are by now and he will probably recruit rather then kill if we lynch Ika.

Exactly, that's why I've been suggesting to ignore Ika the consort.
We should focus on finding the GF. Sadly, it's an outright gamble.

[Dagaen]

It's a MYLO today (4v2) and it will be MYLO tomorrow (3v2). Choosing between both I'll chose one with more information for Town.

ika

[Dagaen]

Tomorrow we will have the same amount of data, but at least we will know which Recruit is still Town. That's quite an advantage for us.

[Chane]

if we allow Ika to live I think I'll be dead at night if we don't lynch the right one, I am waiting for Damus his counter to Orpz as he has a point in Damus not defending his claim.

I actually considered you to be a doc/rec before you claimed dagon, I still hope you might just be a wifoming doc but little chance of that, that would grant us much more flexibility during tonight if we might misslynch.

hmmm this is a hard one and I'm almost forced to shut down, I'd love Damus to provide a response, otherwise I deem it savest to lynch Ika as it might be to big of a gamble.

[Orpz]

I already considered other players before I made my post. Ika was confirmed Mafia, RLVG unCC'd Sheriff, Chane probably Doctor because it would make sense for at least 1 Doctor and there were no claims. As far as I was concerned, it was Dagaen or Damus, and like Damus mentioned, scum would fear attention so I eliminated Dagaen as his hammering post was meant for attention. I also feel like recruiting Ika was a risky move that involved thinking in several layers of wifom, so it would make sense that Damus would recruit him. I preferred not to include this as it's meta and would therefore weaken my next point. So all that was left was going back and looking for particular scummy trends such as Day 1 cautiousness and Day 2 aggressiveness and I did that and included these results in my first post of this day.

[Dagaen]

I'm not that great with psycho-analysis - this is internet after all, I'm not even sure of your gender. If I can avoid relying on psycho-staff, I will.

Lynching Ika seems like a safest route so I'm choosing it.

[Chane]

It's a MYLO today (4v2) and it will be MYLO tomorrow (3v2). Choosing between both I'll chose one with more information for Town.

ika

this is a solid point, from my perspective either you damus or O could possibly be GF, one of you will get recruited (if he recruits which is most likely) leaving one town Recruit, I might be miscalculating but would that provide an advantage?

[Chane]

so if we lynch Ika today and GF recruites we get this situation:

Chane - Doctor
Damus - Recruit/GF/Mafioso
O - Recruit/GF/Mafioso
Dagon - Recruit/GF/Mafioso
RLVG - Sheriff

RLVG would be able to confirm somebody as the next mafia or secure a Recruit but I think the situation would not benefit us much regardless

[Chane]

sec, gonna brush my teeth

[RLVG]

Godfather
Escort
Sheriff
Doctor
Recruit
Recruit

Lynch Consort.

Godfather
Recruit
Sheriff
Doctor
Recruit

Lynch Recruit.

Godfather
Recruit
Sheriff
Doctor

2v2.

I disallow lynching Ika, I disallow having to lynch recruits.

[Dagaen]

It's not strictly advantage - our position is more or less the same, but we will have an additional data. Unless of couse RLVG is lying:D

[RLVG]

It's not strictly advantage - our position is more or less the same, but we will have an additional data. Unless of couse RLVG is lying:D

I'm not lying, I'm the sheriff and I found ika as Mafia.
I'm not even CC'd and this kind of setup without a Sheriff would be extremely gamebreaking.

[Chane]

Godfather
Escort
Sheriff
Doctor
Recruit
Recruit

Lynch Consort.

Godfather
Recruit
Sheriff
Doctor
Recruit

Lynch Recruit.

Godfather
Recruit
Sheriff
Doctor

2v2.

I disallow lynching Ika, I disallow having to lynch recruits.

thx for doing the calculation, I just don't think it will benefit our information, at least now we know for SURE who is the consort, tomorrow it depends on who the sheriff targets.

[Dagaen]

Well the thing is:

I KNOW that I am Recruit, so from my point of view it's either Orpz or Damus_Graves. You guys can't be sure 100%. If you insist of trying to get GF today I will vote Damus because he looks more like GF to me.

[RLVG]

thx for doing the calculation, I just don't think it will benefit our information, at least now we know for SURE who is the consort, tomorrow it depends on who the sheriff targets.

GF is also immune to detection. Killing the Doctor would be highly beneficial for the GF and I the Sheriff would have no clue to share at all.

[Chane]

I found Orpz to be more scummy then Damus from reading through yet he seems to be putting effort into his defense, Damus defends himself with a "lol" and logged off.

Oprz called him out for not putting up a proper defense which seems more like exploiting then scumhunting to me, the thing is, Orpz is trying hard to save his own skin while Damus is a bit more non-gallant in his defense.

Orpz is rather quick to eliminate all possibilities and focused on Damus, however Damus did a similar thing, it makes sense from either recruit's perspective, now all that really remains is how town they behaved and how hard they are fighting for their own skin (or to prevent a miss-lynch).

btw, It's 01:17 in the morning here and I got to turn this laptop off soon and get to sleep, let's all put in our opinions on Dammy and O and consider them against each other, I think we'll be able to chose right from here.

[Chane]

atm Dagon is thinking Damus and RLVG is thinking O, I'd be more inclined to follow RLVG on this one as Dagon only provided a "because i feel that way" as reasoning, I'd like some more analysis from him.

[Chane]

also, I am noting that orpz has been lurking for the past 15 minutes.

[Orpz]

I'd rather not wait another day. I already feel like it's a Town victory and I don't want to give Damus a chance to recruit me onto his sinking ship.

I stay on this page when I do other things, then I refresh and read and post.

Chane, how would you expect scum to behave in this setup?

I was quick to eliminate possibilities because this is a small game and there were lots of unCC'd and really the only person I had to eliminate was Dagaen.

[Chane]

I'd rather not wait another day. I already feel like it's a Town victory and I don't want to give Damus a chance to recruit me onto his sinking ship.

I stay on this page when I do other things, then I refresh and read and post.

Chane, how would you expect scum to behave in this setup?

I was quick to eliminate possibilities because this is a small game and there were lots of unCC'd and really the only person I had to eliminate was Dagaen.

Red seems to indicate that which I like to call "close to the mob win syndrome"

if you are the GF in this situation you see that I am the only one with a vote uncast, you would want to make that vote sway towards Damus before the train starts going on you.

something which town does a lot is guess and try to feel somebodies role by acting on a bit of instinct, scum would try to seem as logical as possible, using as many facts as possible to seem more town, you seem to fit the bill on that regard.

[RLVG]

Eitherway, my vote stays on Orpz.

[Chane]

I conclude that Orpz has the highest chance of being GF, I got the info (and the description of it) which I required to stem my doubts about the matter.

Orpz

and with that I say good night, Dagon it seems you reserved the honor for yourself again.

[Orpz]

That "close to the mob win syndrome" read would only be valid if I was the GF, if I wasn't more close to being lynched than anyone else, if I wasn't the only one voting my FoS. In other words, it doesn't work. If I was the GF, how could I possibly feel "close to the mob win" in this situation?

Using logic is a scum tell now. I see.
I had no need to guess anyone's role coming into this day except yours (and that was an easy guess), because when I logged on everyone had already role claimed. Instinct urged me to go back and reread Damus's posts and I backed it up with rather logical findings rather than just "hurrr my instinct said he was scum"

[Orpz]

You should all feel bad. I put in the most effort to prove I'm Town and it becomes a scum tell.

[Dagaen]

Well, looks like I'm not the only EU guy here.

Anyway, we have 18 hours to choose. I'd like to hear something from Damus.

[Orpz]

An inconvienent time for me to have to leave, but I've said all I've needed to say. I'm Town and the longer you keep me in this state, the more time ika has to log on.

I'm not even sure if Chane knows he left me at L-1 before going to sleep.

[ika]

orpz

[The Godfather]

Orpz has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Orpz ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/8576') (4 [L-0]): Damus_Graves ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=352739'), ika ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=352838'), RLVG ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=352774'), Chane ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=352828')
Damus_Graves ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/4595') (1 [L-3]): Orpz ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=352777')
ika ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/6424') (1 [L-3]): Dagaen ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=352806')

[powerofdeath]

The next day, everyone pointed their finger on Orpz.
Orpz decided quickly make a run for it. He escaped the Headquarter, and ran to his private jet. He looked back, and it seems like he lost them. He sat down and relaxed.
The jet flew off. However, there was a small time bomb in the back of the jet. Tick... Tick... Tick... Orpz immediately heard it and ran to the back. He saw the 00:03 on the timer of the bomb and crated that are covered with gasoline.
'Oh shit!" Orpz said. Tick... Tick...

Few hours later, they found Orpz remains that was washed up on the shore. It seems like he is just another recruit.

1. Damus_Grave
2. Ika
3. Dagaen
4. Orpz - Recruit
5. CarolinaCrown - Escort
6. Frostbyte Chane
7. RLVG

Day end at this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=8%3A30+PM+EST+july+22%2C+2013)

[powerofdeath]

Chane sat down on his old comfy chair. He was thinking about his past. He was with his girlfriend, playing, kissing, laughing, and having a great time. He smiled a little. He then remembered that night. He walked into his bedroom after leaving work 4 hours early. He saw her sleeping with another man in his bed. He was filled with rage. He tried to beat the shit out of that man. However the man was bigger and stronger than he was. He was thrown out of his own house. He was so furious, he wasn't thinking straight. He couldve called the cops. But instead he went back to work, and typed in codes for launch.

It launched a nuclear weapon and it was sent to his own house where his girlfriend was. The bomb was so big, it devastated towns nearby. Chane was only an hour and half away. He was far enough to survive, but he could feel the radiation through his skin.

This memory made him filled with rage again. He went out with Ika, forced ika to sleep with someone and walked to right outside of Damus's office. Holding up his gun, he kicked the door open. He pointed at Damus and fired 6 rounds. Each one of them missed. Damus took out his gun and shot his 6 rounds. Chane immediately dive behind a metal desk. Chane quickly reloaded and fired 5 rounds. Damus misheard and thought it was 6 rounds. He got up and aimed at Chane. Chane fired his last round and it went through Damus's eye.
Damus stood there for a second, fell down to his knees, and fall.

This island is now Chane's. He escaped America and overthrew some of the best American agents in the island he now called his.
Chane beats everyone.

Damus role was Recruit

The mafia won.
Congrats to Chane and annoyed Ika.

Player list:
Chane - Godfather - won
Ika - escort/consort - recruited, got annoyed, and won
CarolinaCrown - escort - lynched
RLVG - sheriff - survived in fears
Damus_Graves - killed
Dagaen - Recruit - survived in fears
Orpz - Recruit - lynched

My opinions on the game: I was surprised you guys lynched Carolina. That hurts the town. I was surprised that Chane decided to risk it and recruit Ika. Ika complained a little but he won anyway xD. I was also impressed that Chane has the guts to claims Doctor because if he was counterclaimed, he would get lynched for sure. I am also impressed he led the town to mislynch Orpz. Ika just went in and hammered xD I was a little disappointed in town that they believed there was only 1 escort and there is a doctor. I putted 2 escorts in game so they couldve been useful. I also didnt put in a doctor because 2 escorts seems too op for the town. I had high expectations for the two escorts to affect the games. But I certainly did not expect to the escort to be lynched so early and the other got recruited n1.

It was a nice quick game and it was somewhat fun.
I random.org the lucky numbers and players get what roles. I did not random.org how many of each roles we have. I planned out the set up for 2 escorts and no doctor.

But anyway
4 for MVP

[Damus_Graves]

Chane


Work kept me from keeping you all from lynching Orpz. His defense was exceedingly pro town. Never ever give someone an easy claim. Chane's biggest scum tell was taking the doc role so easily without any irritation at being "outed" like a normal doc would.

[ika]

mvp nobody

the only reason mafia won was becasue i was on break when orpz went to l-1. my idea to keep me as an escort was good but then town kinda imploded into itself after i became a consort. i am annoyed byt this victory yes becasue i pretty muched forced caroline to lose from it. i was expecting gf to either kill or recuit and go from there.

another thing im annoyed about is how the afk player was indeed the gf. overall i think the game was ok.

[Damus_Graves]

mvp nobody

the only reason mafia won was becasue i was on break when orpz went to l-1. my idea to keep me as an escort was good but then town kinda imploded into itself after i became a consort. i am annoyed byt this victory yes becasue i pretty muched forced caroline to lose from it. i was expecting gf to either kill or recuit and go from there.

another thing im annoyed about is how the afk player was indeed the gf. overall i think the game was ok.

The problem with the lynch was not that he was escort and you were too or anything like that. It was that we prematurely made decisions and no one really discussed them . . .

[ika]

The problem with the lynch was not that he was escort and you were too or anything like that. It was that we prematurely made decisions and no one really discussed them . . .

i think with the double escort one is was more throughly discussed but the orpz one was more blitzed and not given time to formilate

[powerofdeath]

mvp nobody

the only reason mafia won was becasue i was on break when orpz went to l-1. my idea to keep me as an escort was good but then town kinda imploded into itself after i became a consort. i am annoyed byt this victory yes becasue i pretty muched forced caroline to lose from it. i was expecting gf to either kill or recuit and go from there.

another thing im annoyed about is how the afk player was indeed the gf. overall i think the game was ok.

Frostbyte said he didnt see this and thought it would start one week later.
I noticed he recently got banned.
So replacing him is probably a good idea because he came back at night 2 where GF is making the winning kill, if i let him stayed, he wouldve lurked day 1, night 1, day 2, submit a night action for night 2, get banned

[ika]

Frostbyte said he didnt see this and thought it would start one week later.
I noticed he recently got banned.
So replacing him is probably a good idea because he came back at night 2 where GF is making the winning kill, if i let him stayed, he wouldve lurked day 1, night 1, day 2, submit a night action for night 2, get banned

understandable but again i am annoyed i foreced a lynch on caroline only to find ou that my lynch cost hhim the game

[CarolinaCrown]

understandable but again i am annoyed i foreced a lynch on caroline only to find ou that my lynch cost hhim the game

You're too kind, ika. I forgive you!

I think on the whole, this game serves as a cautionary tale against modgaming/meta. Role lists are hidden for a reason, and I think players guessing the "likelihood" of certain roles and multiplicities should be, at best, a last resort when no other strategies are available.

[Titus]

I agree, from the outside Chane deserves the MVP here.

[Dagaen]

We knew ika is scum, what was the point of putting someone on L-1?;]

Funny, we were kinda close to lynch GF d1 xD

[ika]

I was not scum day 1

[Dagaen]

Seperate lines, separate thoughts:P

[Orpz]

aw man. GG all, didn't see that one coming.

chane mvp

Reflecting, I think Chane's biggest scum tell was straight up saying logic is a scum tell.

[powerofdeath]

Nobody suspected there was no doctor at all xD

[Chane]

aw man. GG all, didn't see that one coming.

chane mvp

Reflecting, I think Chane's biggest scum tell was straight up saying logic is a scum tell.

it was 2 in the morning, in some hotel appartment in Italy, I had to go, so I decided to test a little risky play (which was my biggest fail this game I agree).

Dagon, would you have still lynched Orpz if it wasn't for Ika? also, a mafia voting with his GF to lynch is something a mafia member should do if it grants the win, it's just that in fm things can be delayed causing other things to happen.

few more notes, I actually THOUGHT there was a doctor in the game that had claimed recruit to hide themselves, which is what I would've done as Doctor, claim recruit and hope to be "recruited".

last night I killed Damus because he was the most likely perhaps doctor canidate and I had dageen roleblocked just in case he was a doctor healing damus.

all in all it was a fun little game, and that escort lynch wasn't TO bad as I didn't get to speak at all d1, winning in one day is a fun thing to do indeed.

I did learn a lot from the current state of the game, and although people claim it was just a complete town failure, my recruiting of Ika and role claim were risky to say the least. Claiming doc left me completely out of suspicion as I spend the first half of the day guessing set-up's and doing other townish things.

GG

[Chane]

Nobody suspected there was no doctor at all xD

becides the man who claimed it ;)

oh wait, I also thought there was a doc, just hiding among the recruits.

[powerofdeath]

becides the man who claimed it ;)

oh wait, I also thought there was a doc, just hiding among the recruits.

I could tell in your posts.
You tried to make it look like it was possible for 2 doctors in some of your posts.

[Chane]

I could tell in your posts.
You tried to make it look like it was possible for 2 doctors in some of your posts.

but I called it unlikely, so it didn't come out to bite me in the ass as a scum preparing against a CC.

I was rather eager for a "second" doctor to stand up so we could "exchange" healing after I lynched Orpz.

[Dagaen]

I'd probably still lynch Ika because it was safest route for us. I'm usually quite paranoid about mislynches.

I didn't trust Chane completely (my #142) because it was very convenient that last person who claimed was Doctor, but there were better targets than him.

[Dagaen]

Well, have your mvp, why not:P

Chane

[Chane]

Ika, it's L-1 hammer before the town understands what's going on!

[ika]

Ika, it's L-1 hammer before the town understands what's going on!

you were lucky i was on break and decided to pull this game up when it was l-1 otherwise youprob would of lost it becasue of that

[Chane]

you were lucky i was on break and decided to pull this game up when it was l-1 otherwise youprob would of lost it becasue of that

I'd say it's just a mafia player's duty to hammer for the win, thank you regardless, why do you have to be so mean D:

[ika]

I'd say it's just a mafia player's duty to hammer for the win, thank you regardless, why do you have to be so mean D:

i was annoyed that you converted me when i had this plan set up to allow me to stay escort and be town, im just annoyed that you ended up converting me anyway and my lynch on caroline to make it near impossible to want to convert me so it all ended up being a waste

[Chane]

i was annoyed that you converted me when i had this plan set up to allow me to stay escort and be town, im just annoyed that you ended up converting me anyway and my lynch on caroline to make it near impossible to want to convert me so it all ended up being a waste

and I made sure that because you were unlikely to be converted I converted you anyways, ensuring that towns plans were gone to waste and perhaps even securing me a consort if the sheriff used basic wifom at all, what better option then to make the town lynch one of their best players which is their escort as well. Well, you didn't get lynched after all, sr for fakking up your plans <3