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Cryptonic

July 15th, 2013, 03:27 PM

M-FM XVIII - The Curse of Castle Varen

The game has ended!
Congratulations Mercenaries and Ghost!

Setup located here. (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/17661-M-FM-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen)

Roles List

Art Collector
Interrogator
Consort
Hidden Mercenary
Lookout
Sheriff
Citizen
Citizen
Architect
Citizen
Journalist
Blacksmith
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Lord Varen (Ghost)
Lady Varen (Banshee)
Groundskeeper (Ritual Killer)

Living Players
Professor Baxter
Sholanda Dykes
Sidney Huffman

Graveyard
Captain François Dubonais - Roleplay death.
Ricky Spanish - Lookout - scared to death Night One.
Laura Vanderbooben - Citizen - shot in the head Night One.
Tom Yabo - Interrogator - lynched Day Two.
Rashid - Sheriff - scared to death Night Two.
Tommy Calhoun - Citizen - shot in the head Night Two.
Roland Chang - Ghost - lynched Day Three.
Sgt. Pepper - Architect - shot in the head Night Three.
Lestat de Lioncourt - Citizen - scared to death Night Three.
Charles Bronson - Journalist - shot in the head Night Three.
Martin Sugar - Art Collector - lynched Day Four
Demitri Krotchlikmioff - Blacksmith - shot in the head Night Four.
Max Jets - Consort - scared to death Night Four.
Dr Jordan Edilstein - Banshee - lynched Day Five.
Ace Chapman - Ritual Killer - shot in the head Night Five.
Uncle Kappy - Citizen - lynched Day Six.
Pete Pendelman - Doctor - shot in the head Night Six.
Elisha Wilkner - Bulletproof - sacrificed Day Seven

Game Gateways
Setup (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/17661-M-FM-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen)
Ace Chapman (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10483-Ace-Chapman)
Demitri Krotchlikmioff (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10478-Demitri-Krotchlikmioff)
Elisha Wilkner (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10482-Elisha-Wilkner)
Dr Jordan Edilstein (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10464-Dr-Jordan-Edilstein)
Laura Vanderbooben (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10468-Laura-Vanderbooben)
Lestat de Lioncourt (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10465-Lestat-de-Lioncourt)
Martin Sugar (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10475-Martin-Sugar)
Max Jets (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10479-Max-Jets)
Pete Pendelman (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10474-Pete-Pendelman)
Professor Baxter (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10466-Professor-Baxter)
Rashid (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10467-Rashid)
Ricky Spanish (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10481-Ricky-Spanish)
Roland Chang (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10476-Roland-Chang)
Sgt. Pepper (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10477-Sgt-Pepper)
Sholanda Dykes (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10469-Sholanda-Dykes)
Charles Bronson (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10470-Charles-Bronson)
Sidney Huffman (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10471-Sidney-Huffman)
Tom Yabo (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10480-Tom-Yabo)
Tommy Calhoun (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10472-Tommy-Calhoun)
Uncle Kappy (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10473-Uncle-Kappy)

Day One (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=350035&viewfull=1#post350035)
Midpoint (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=350676&viewfull=1#post350676)
Night One (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=351323&viewfull=1#post351323)
Day Two (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=351778&viewfull=1#post351778)
Midpoint (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=352196&viewfull=1#post352196)
Night Two (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=352629&viewfull=1#post352629)
Day Three (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=352872&viewfull=1#post352872)
Night Three (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=353958&viewfull=1#post353958)
Day Four (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=354358&viewfull=1#post354358)
Midpoint (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=354951&viewfull=1#post354951)
Night Four (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=355102&viewfull=1#post355102)
Day Five (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=355588&viewfull=1#post355588)
Night Five (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=356359&viewfull=1#post356359)
Day Six (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=356658&viewfull=1#post356658)
Night Six (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=357152&viewfull=1#post357152)
Day Seven (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=357637&viewfull=1#post357637)
Epilouge (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/21719-M-FM-XVIII-The-Curse-of-Castle-Varen?p=357748&viewfull=1#post357748)

Roleplay
Located on a lonely island stands the once majestic Castle Varen. The now decrepit Castle and untame landscape is a desired location for Historians and Thrill Seekers alike. With 42 deaths and 167 disappearances in the past 116 years, Castle Varen has built quite the reputation for itself: It's cursed. Everyone believes that the curse started after the disappearance of Lady Varen. Rumor has it that she's vanished from the island hours after having her portrait painted; some say that she was murdered by her Husband, her soul cursing the Island and the Portrait. Others, however, tell a story of how the Varen family is a Cult, converting and murderering their visitors.
Whatever the case may be, the descendants of Lady and Lord Varen held a contest, giving 17 winners an invitation to spend a night at the Castle.

The date came, and as the last lucky winner disembarked the Ferry, it left. All 17 of them were trapped on the Island until the next Ferry, tomorrow morning. Lady Varen greeted the winners and showed them inside.

"As you can see, we haven't had any visitors in a while", said Lady Varen as she attempted to explain the condition of the Castle. As dust covered everything, it was apparent no one had cleaned in several years. "I regret to inform you that Lord Varen is sick in his chamber, and will not be joining us this evening."

She showed everyone to their rooms, and let them unpack.

"Meet in the great hall at 8, and we will begin our tour." stated Lady Varen, as she retreated to her chambers.

The sound of the grandfather clock echoed throughout the Great Hall as it reached 8 o'clock. With Lady Varen no where to be seen, everyone used this time to introduce themselves.
"Why are there 21 of us?", someone asked. "I thought there were only 17 winners."
Everyone looked around, and realized it was true. No one was able to determine who wasn't on the ferry with them. Some faces seemed familiar to them, but they didn't recognize a majority of these people. With the sudden appearance of these new strangers, everyone was on edge.

"It's just a gimic! All of this is probably orchestrated for our entertainment. I wouldn't be surprised if actors were hired to hide among us!", someone proclaimed. "While we're waiting, we might as well look around."

Immediately after they started to look around, someone let out a scream. Behind the couch was the body of Captain François Dubonais. He appeared to have been strangled.

"What the hell! I was just talking to him 5 minutes ago! What the hell!! How is this possible?!" someone yelled from the crowd.
"Who would do this!?" shouted another.

After these words were shouted, people started accusing others of being the likely killer. It was obvious that it was someone who was in the room with them.

Most people felt like they couldn't trust anybody, while some were still assuming that it was all just a show.

With 20 people remaining, it only took 11 votes to lynch.

The panic caused by Captain François Dubonais' death subsided, and everyone decided to let things go for the time being.

"I have to get out of here." someone said "I know I can't leave this island, but at least I can still get the hell away from everyone."
"I think some of us should go look for Lady Varen, and make sure something hasn't happened to her.." said another.

No one replied.

They all looked at one another and realized that their lives were in jeopardy as long as the killer was still among them. One by one, the winners left the Great Hall on their own. Some had thoughts of using this time to organize their thoughts, while others decided to look deeper into the death of Captain François Dubonais.

Not long after everyone went their own way, a scream echoed through the castle once again. Silence fell over castle as everyone was trying to hear what was going on.

*BANG*

Gunshot rang through the corridors. Another scream. Everyone started running back to the Grand Hall in hopes to find others. Surprisingly, 18 of them returned.

"Was that a gun?! Is everyone OK?" someone asked.

"No.. We're not." explained an older man. "It's Laura.. Laura Vanderbooben. She's dead. We just found her with a bullet in her head.."

"Has.. Has anyone seen Ricky Spanish?" asked a girl. "I had been hoping he'd be here already."

"Ricky Spanish? The guy with the pony tail?" someone questioned, "Yea... Yea, I saw him in the Dining Hall. He was just.. sitting there. He just seemed to be frozen in that position. It was as if... as if he was scared to death. I don't want to be here anymore..."

"And we're the winners?"

With 18 people alive, it took 10 votes to lynch!

"So, what's the story with that guy?" someone asked, referencing Tom Yabo.
"No one really knows, we rarely ever see him talking to anybody. He just lurks in the corner." replied another.
"Well, I don't think it. It's weird." said Lestat de Lioncourt.

The same thought was ran through all their heads. They all grabbed Tom Yabo, and held him down. Lestat de Lioncourt grabbed a candlestick and repeatedly struck Tom Yabo in the head until he no longer struggled. Tom Yabo was dead. They searched his body and found a pair a hand cuffs. He was an Interrogator.

Everyone needed time to process the murder of Tom Yabo.
"We will meet back here if any happens." said someone. "Don't be gone for too long."
Some people went off alone, while others went off in pairs.

It was only about twenty minutes before a man's scream was heard, followed by a gunshot on the other side of the castle.

"That scream sounded like it was just down the hall!" said a Thrill Seeker to another.

The two ran towards the noise, and found Rashid sitting in the corner of his bedroom. He had his arms propped up, shielding his face. Rigor mortis had already mysteriously set in.

"This is just like Ricky Spanish. It looks like he was scared to death." the Thrill Seeker pointed out. "Search him, maybe he has something useful."

They started sifting through his pockets, and pulled out his wallet.

"What is this? An FBI badge? What's the FBI doing here?" questioned one.
"I don't know, but a dead Fed just makes me feel worse about this whole situation.." the other replied.

They gathered their belongings, and started heading back to the Great Hall.

The others had already arrived, heading straight there after hearing the scream.

"15? Where's Rashid and Tommy Calhoun?" someone asked.
"We found Rashid. He was all messed up, just like Ricky Spanish. We found out he was in the FBI.." replied the Thrill Seeker.
"And Tommy Calhoun?" he asked.
"No idea. We didn't see him."

The group then notices a girl weeping in the corner.

"Hey, You!" shouted the Thrill Seeker.
The girl looked up.
"Yea. Why are you crying? Did you see what happened to Tommy Calhoun?"
The girl swallowed hard, and tried to get the words out. "They.. They took him. They said if I followed they'd kill me, too. They shot him.. They shot him right in the head. There was nothing I could do..."
" 'They'? " he replied.

The group members looked around at each other, and felt more uneasy with each passing minute. They all knew that they needed to find out who was responsible for all this, and finally put a stop to them.

"Why are you always around when people mysteriously die?!" shouted someone at Roland Chang, pushing him into the fireplace mantle.

"It's not me, you got the wrong guy!" shouted Roland Chang.

And at that moment, Roland Chang quickly reached for the fire poker. Smoke erupted from his hand once he had made contact with the iron fire poker. He immediately released it, and collapsed to the ground in pain.

"Please don't hurt me! Please! I wasn't in control of my own body!" pleaded Roland Chang as he cowered on the ground.

"I don't buy this shit." Max Jets said to the rest of the group. "We need to end this before he kills us."

He picked up the fire poker and jabbed it into Roland Chang's chest. Roland Chang blacked out and didn't wake up. He was dead. Roland's last words had shaken up the group. Was Roland Chang really possessed by a Ghost?

After everyone parted ways, someone followed Sgt. Pepper into the library and hid behind a wall. Sgt. Pepper pulled on a book, revealing a secret staircase. The mysterious person hurried down the steps after him.

"What the hell are you doing down here? How'd you find this place!?" the man questioned Sgt. Pepper.
"What? Who? I swear, I just stumbled across this place. I'm trying to help you!" replied Sgt. Pepper.
"Just shut up. You've been keeping secrets from all of us, and you expect me to believe you now?" he replied.

He pulled out a gun and pointed it at Sgt. Pepper.

"Surprise asshole." he said, as he pulled back the trigger.

*BANG*

Sgt. Pepper crumbled to the ground. He was dead.

Everyone started their way back to the Grand Hall. On his way back, Lestat de Lioncourt heard a click; it sounded as if lock on the room he was walking by unlocked. He slowly opened the door into the dark room. He stood in the doorway and thought he could make out a figure standing in the darkness. He started feeling a cold, numbing sensation run through his body. Lestat de Lioncourt let out a loud scream, but he was dead before it had finished.

Everyone raced back to the Grand Hall after hearing the gunshot, but the door was closed. They tried to push it open, but something was blocking it. They group managed to ram the door open with enough force, and Charles Bronson slide out from behind it. He was already dead.

The group had reached a majority decision to eliminate Martin Sugar. As they started to approach him, he pulled a gun on them.

"Get the fuck away from me, or I'll put a hole in your head!" exclaimed Martin Sugar.

Max Jets quickly lept forward and disarmed Martin Sugar before he could realize what was happening. Max Jets took Martin's gun and pointed it at Martin Sugar while he sat on the ground, pleading for his life. Max Jets tightened his grip.

*BANG*

Martin Sugar laid on the ground, twitching. He was dead.

A wave of calmness fell over the remaining 10 Thrill Seekers following the death of the Art Collector. With him gone, most felt that they were likely to survive until the morning. Before anyone had a chance to fully enjoy this feeling, a laugh echoed through the castle.

"Was that... Lady Varen?" someone asked.

Max Jets began to run towards the direction of the noise, but he suddenly stopped in his tracks.

"What the.. I.. I can't move my legs! What the hell is this?" he shouted.

As the numb feeling moved from legs to his torso, Max Jets quickly drew a gun from his jacket. Everyone attempted to jump out of the way.

*BANG*

The room went silent. A Thrill Seeker peaked from behind the couch, and Max Jets was frozen in place with his gun still extended. They all stood up and regrouped, but Demitri Krotchlikmioff remained motionless on the ground. They both were dead.

Dr Jordan Edilstein revealed himself to be the Banshee, thinking that he was too powerful to be defeated.

"All your souls will soon belong to me..." said Dr Jordan Edilstein
"That voice.. It that Lady Varen?!"

Dr Jordan Edilstein let out a laugh and started dashing towards Elisha Wilkner. Elisha Wilkner found herself unable to run away.

"Someone, stop him!" shouted Elisha.

And just then, Professor Baxter swung the iron fire poker hard, crushing Dr Jordan Edilstein's skull. A dark smoke erupted from the wound, covering the floor. Dr Jordan Edilstein screamed until the smoke ceased, and then he fell limp to the floor. Dr Jordan Edilstein was dead.

The castle felt less threatening following the exorcism of the Banshee, and everyone felt safe enough to rest alone in their rooms. At least until blast from a nearby gunshot shook them all.

*BANG*

Everyone quickly ran to the hallway, and noticed that Ace Chapman was nowhere to be found. They all rushed into his room, noticing a pool of blood seeping out from under the closet door. They opened the closet door and found Ace Chapman. He was dead. In his hands he held an old book. To everyone's horror, the book was filled with symbols written in blood, and pictures of fire and monsters. Some names of fellow Thrill Seekers were written on some of the pages.

"It's probably best that he's dead..." someone said.

They all grabbed their stuff and headed back to the Great Hall.

The Thrill Seekers made it back to the Great Hall, and suspicion immediately fell onto Uncle Kappy. The argument quickly turned into aggression as Uncle Kappy snapped under the pressure.

"Get away from me." said Uncle Kappy, "I didn't do shit."

But it was too late. The group rushed Uncle Kappy and held him down as Professor Baxter retrieved the gun from Max Jets' cold hands. He pointed the gun at Uncle Kappy, and everyone looked away.

*BANG*

Professor Baxter had shot Uncle Kappy in the neck. Uncle Kappy spat up blood while trying to speak. He gripped his neck to try to prevent the bleeding, but it was too late. Uncle Kappy had bled to death.

Feeling that the horror was finally over, the Thrill Seekers began to move the bodies out of the Great Hall. Each going off on their own, carrying the dead with them.

The Thrill Seekers were working on moving the last body when the sound of gunfire rang throughout the castle. Everyone had expected that the violence had finally ended, but now they knew they would never be safe until the were off the island.

They all met up while running down the halls, checking everyone room along the way. However, Pete Pendelman never joined the troupe. Following a blood trail, Elisha Wilkner discovered Pete Pendelman's body stuffed into a kitchen cabinet. He had been shot in the head.

"I thought this shit was over.. Why is this still going on?" questioned Elisha Wilkner.

They all headed back to the Great Hall, all thinking that this would be the last discussion they would have.

Rules
No editing posts (0 warnings).
No COM claiming (true or false) (1 warnings).
No COM hunting (true or false) (1 warning).
Must post multiple times each day, excluding double posts (0 warning).
No videos (1 warning).
No posting screenshots (0 warnings).
No quoting PMs (0 warnings); You may paraphrase.
No outside communication about the game (0 warnings).
English only (1 warning).
Using codes is allowed.
You may NOT change your Avatar after Night One. (1 warning. must change back and not change again.)

Note: Since days are 48 hours, there will be no lynching before the first 24 hours have passed (although, you may still vote and use the vote counter!). However, Day One will be a majority vote at the very beginning. This MFM will be confined to one thread; please use the Gateways to quickly find the start, midpoint, and end of days. As a reminder: please do not change your MFM account password at any time.

Thank you and have fun!

Cryptonic

July 15th, 2013, 06:57 PM

Day One

Roles List

Art Collector
Hidden Mercenary
Hidden Mercenary
Hidden Mercenary
Hidden Federal Agent
Hidden Federal Agent
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Lord Varen (Hidden Neutral)
Lady Varen (Hidden Neutral)
Groundskeeper (Hidden Neutral)

Living Players
Dr Jordan Edilstein
Lestat de Lioncourt
Professor Baxter
Rashid
Laura Vanderbooben
Sholanda Dykes
Charles Bronson
Sidney Huffman
Tommy Calhoun
Uncle Kappy
Pete Pendelman
Martin Sugar
Roland Chang
Sgt. Pepper
Demitri Krotchlikmioff
Max Jets
Tom Yabo
Ricky Spanish
Elisha Wilkner
Ace Chapman

Graveyard
Captain François Dubonais - Roleplay death.

Roleplay
The sound of the grandfather clock echoed throughout the Great Hall as it reached 8 o'clock. With Lady Varen no where to be seen, everyone used this time to introduce themselves.
"Why are there 21 of us?", someone asked. "I thought there were only 17 winners."
Everyone looked around, and realized it was true. No one was able to determine who wasn't on the ferry with them. Some faces seemed familiar to them, but they didn't recognize a majority of these people. With the sudden appearance of these new strangers, everyone was on edge.

"It's just a gimic! All of this is probably orchestrated for our entertainment. I wouldn't be surprised if actors were hired to hide among us!", someone proclaimed. "While we're waiting, we might as well look around."

Immediately after they started to look around, someone let out a scream. Behind the couch was the body of Captain François Dubonais. He appeared to have been strangled.

"What the hell! I was just talking to him 5 minutes ago! What the hell!! How is this possible?!" someone yelled from the crowd.
"Who would do this!?" shouted another.

After these words were shouted, people started accusing others of being the likely killer. It was obvious that it was someone who was in the room with them.

Most people felt like they couldn't trust anybody, while some were still assuming that it was all just a show.

With 20 people remaining, it only took 11 votes to lynch.

Day ends in 48 hours at 7:00 PM PST, Wednesday, July 17. (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7PM+PST+July+17)

Laura Vanderbooben

July 15th, 2013, 07:03 PM

Captain is dead? So we are stuck here! That's just great!

Call me Laura. No boob jokes please.

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 07:04 PM

Apparently I'm a bisexual vampire.

Professor Baxter

July 15th, 2013, 07:05 PM

Greetings all!

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 07:08 PM

For future reference, I welcome any attempts to buddy with me.

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 07:08 PM

Please. It's lonely out here.

Tom Yabo

July 15th, 2013, 07:09 PM

Sup guys. Link to set up please?

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 07:10 PM

Sup guys. Link to set up please?

Be my friend.

Cryptonic

July 15th, 2013, 07:13 PM

Sup guys. Link to set up please?

Added to OP :smile: ty

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 07:14 PM

Hello everyone

Dr Jordan Edilstein

July 15th, 2013, 07:16 PM

Anyways, I'm here. So feel free to do dangerous things that might cause serious injury to yourself. After all... I'm a doctor...

Dr Jordan Edilstein

July 15th, 2013, 07:17 PM

Or am I a Doctor because I have a PHD in something?

Hell if I know...

Ricky Spanish

July 15th, 2013, 07:19 PM

Checking in to say good night and ill post later

Uncle Kappy

July 15th, 2013, 07:20 PM

:O

Checking in!

Dr Jordan... maybe you have a degree in Theoretical Physics? It would explain a lot.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 07:21 PM

If you want to know what you are doctor just look up Roger from American Dad. Were all his alter ego's basically lol.

Dr Jordan Edilstein

July 15th, 2013, 07:22 PM

:O

Checking in!

Dr Jordan... maybe you have a degree in Theoretical Physics? It would explain a lot.

I have recently received info from anonymous sources -myself- that my PHD is in badassery...

Please refer to me as Doctor Badass for the remainder of this game.

Dr Jordan Edilstein

July 15th, 2013, 07:23 PM

If you want to know what you are doctor just look up Roger from American Dad. Were all his alter ego's basically lol.

Fuck I'm not using no Seth Macfarlane shit.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 07:25 PM

Fuck I'm not using no Seth Macfarlane shit.

Well you are a college professor at Harvard with an IQ of 140. You had a book that sold and you are a Hebrew. That is a dumbed down version of ur alter ego.

Dr Jordan Edilstein

July 15th, 2013, 07:29 PM

Well you are a college professor at Harvard with an IQ of 140. You had a book that sold and you are a Hebrew. That is a dumbed down version of ur alter ego.

There is a Doctor in every jewish family isn't there?

Either way, I will not be subject to this torcher...

Uncle Kappy

July 15th, 2013, 07:31 PM

If you want to know what you are doctor just look up Roger from American Dad. Were all his alter ego's basically lol.

Lol it took a moment to find and crop the correct Uncle Kappy picture.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 07:31 PM

There is a Doctor in every jewish family isn't there?

Either way, I will not be subject to this torcher...

Atleast you are interesting. I work at AT&T. That is all. So you better be nice to me cuz I'm the only one on the island with cellphone service!

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 07:32 PM

We need more Rogers.

There is never enough

Laura Vanderbooben

July 15th, 2013, 07:34 PM

I don't really care for American Dad. Family Guy was better. I'm not changing my avatar.

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 07:35 PM

One of the Rogers we see is a scum alter ego hiding behind the respectable masks. God has sent me here to purge him and cleanse this Earth.
It will not be easy. Rumors up in heaven say that Michael is assisting these abominations. He is the eldest of Archangels, us lesser angels must move out of the way. Let Gabriel handle him. And where the fuck is Raphael?

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 07:36 PM

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 07:37 PM

I seek only to do God's will. And his will is to carry out the apocalypse.

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 07:38 PM

Seize the baby from Charlie. Michael will have to defend it. We will ambush him then.

Dr Jordan Edilstein

July 15th, 2013, 07:38 PM

I seek only to do God's will. And his will is to carry out the apocalypse.

Oh, I'm Jesus though.

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 07:39 PM

Oh, I'm Jesus though.

They are holed up in some cafe. Send our legion.

Tommy Calhoun

July 15th, 2013, 07:40 PM

So... can we throw the captain's body to the sea?
It'll be a while until we can get out from here. I don't want him to stink the whole place.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 07:43 PM

So... can we throw the captain's body to the sea?
It'll be a while until we can get out from here. I don't want him to stink the whole place.

Wait a second if we took a ferry here why did we need a captain? Obviously the ferry is going to be back tomorrow and we can leave. I just don't see why we need a dead captain since he obviously wasn't the one steering the ferry.

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 07:44 PM

So... can we throw the captain's body to the sea?
It'll be a while until we can get out from here. I don't want him to stink the whole place.

Leave him. My host body may be injured in the charge, and I will need a replacement.

Tommy Calhoun

July 15th, 2013, 07:45 PM

Wait a second if we took a ferry here why did we need a captain? Obviously the ferry is going to be back tomorrow and we can leave. I just don't see why we need a dead captain since he obviously wasn't the one steering the ferry.

He was the captain of a football team.

Tommy Calhoun

July 15th, 2013, 07:45 PM

Leave him. My host body may be injured in the charge, and I will need a replacement.

Fair enough. Let's store him in the fridge, then.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 07:46 PM

Fair enough. Let's store him in the fridge, then.

Can't we just throw him in the basement? Nothing bad ever happens in the basement. Or we could stuff him in a closet. I don't want my food to smell like rotting flesh.

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 07:47 PM

Only those who oppose Heaven would so quickly dispose of bodies necessary for our angels to embody.
Remember that Gabriel has no qualms about smiting those that hint even a shred of sympathy for Michael's cause.

Tommy Calhoun

July 15th, 2013, 07:49 PM

Can't we just throw him in the basement? Nothing bad ever happens in the basement. Or we could stuff him in a closet. I don't want my food to smell like rotting flesh.

Given that our hosts have tons of cash and live in an island, I guess they have some spare refrigerators for emergencies like this.

Sidney Huffman

July 15th, 2013, 07:49 PM

hello fellow thrill seekers

lets start this off right

Ricky Spanish

he ruined my life

Ace Chapman

July 15th, 2013, 07:53 PM

Hello everybody! I don't got a lot to post, but I do wanna take a look at this..

Or am I a Doctor because I have a PHD in something?

Hell if I know...

Possible Amnesiac soft-claim?

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 07:55 PM

Possible Amnesiac soft-claim?

Interesting for a professor at Harvard with an IQ of 140 he isn't that smart.... hmmm

Dr Jordan Edilstein

July 15th, 2013, 07:58 PM

Interesting for a professor at Harvard with an IQ of 140 he isn't that smart.... hmmm

No no no, I could have gotten jumped by some guy with a bat who beat me in the head with it giving me amnesia...

But in all seriousness I am not going to confirm or deny your report...

Sidney Huffman

July 15th, 2013, 08:01 PM

No no no, I could have gotten jumped by some guy with a bat who beat me in the head with it giving me amnesia...

But in all seriousness I am not going to confirm or deny your report...

you're amnesiac now

ITS BEEN ESTABLISHED

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 08:03 PM

you're amnesiac now

ITS BEEN ESTABLISHED

The irony. A professor at Harvard with an IQ of 140 being an amnesiac...

Tommy Calhoun

July 15th, 2013, 08:03 PM

No no no, I could have gotten jumped by some guy with a bat who beat me in the head with it giving me amnesia...

But in all seriousness I am not going to confirm or deny your report...

What does a quasi-genius find interesting about a supposedly cursed castle?
Aren't you guys like all scientific method and stuff?

Also, call me Thomas.
I don't know why they listed me as "Tommy" in the winners list. Not even my granny called me that.

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 08:07 PM

Surely you must remember us angels fighting together through the numerous civil wars...

Dr Jordan Edilstein

July 15th, 2013, 08:08 PM

What does a quasi-genius find interesting about a supposedly cursed castle?
Aren't you guys like all scientific method and stuff?

Also, call me Thomas.
I don't know why they listed me as "Tommy" in the winners list. Not even my granny called me that.

Well... it's because I want to disprove magic.

Demitri Krotchlikmioff

July 15th, 2013, 08:08 PM

Demitri CockLickMeOff checking in. I'm Russian and jewish... looking for a solemate.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 08:09 PM

Surely you must remember us angels fighting together through the numerous civil wars...

Should we be calling you The Brat Prince?

Orpz

July 15th, 2013, 08:11 PM

Should we be calling you The Brat Prince?

sda

Orpz

July 15th, 2013, 08:11 PM

omg wrong account im so sorry

Tom Yabo

July 15th, 2013, 08:11 PM

You guys... Im stan's stepfather. I married to stan's mom and I promise I do not have any ulterior motive to kill her. I promise ;)

Tom Yabo

July 15th, 2013, 08:12 PM

We are going to the honeymoon together, dont follow us or try to stop me

Orpz

July 15th, 2013, 08:13 PM

I'm requesting to be replaced for my fail. See you all next MFM

T___________________T

Tommy Calhoun

July 15th, 2013, 08:18 PM

Should we be calling you The Brat Prince?

I support this.

Laura Vanderbooben

July 15th, 2013, 08:20 PM

We have to watch our backs. There are wild Orpzes on this island.

Demitri Krotchlikmioff

July 15th, 2013, 08:21 PM

We have to watch our backs. There are wild Orpzes on this island.

Don't worry. The russians can handle this.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 08:23 PM

Don't worry. The russians can handle this.

Well nice knowing you all. Were gonna get overran by Orpzes.

Ace Chapman

July 15th, 2013, 08:23 PM

Don't worry. The russians can handle this.

The Jewish Russians, you mean?

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 08:24 PM

If most of us are the person does that mean once one of us dies all of us die? Unless it just kills of each of Roger's egos.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 08:25 PM

If most of us are the same person does that mean once one of us dies all of us die? Unless it just kills of each of Roger's egos.

Fixed

Tommy Calhoun

July 15th, 2013, 08:25 PM

The Jewish Russians, you mean?
Hereafter referred to as Jewssians.

Ace Chapman

July 15th, 2013, 08:27 PM

Hereafter referred to as Jewssians.

I support this greatly, and shall henceforth refer to Demetri as the "Jewssian"

Demitri Krotchlikmioff

July 15th, 2013, 08:36 PM

I support this greatly, and shall henceforth refer to Demetri as the "Jewssian"

Your jewssian friend is now me.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 08:44 PM

Havent you seen some shows where one of his ego successfully kill another ego, or kill himself and he just pop up from nowhere as plain Roger or his another ego?

I don't watch it, but I know they just kill eachother off. I was just asking for the sake of asking and hearing answers.

Ace Chapman

July 15th, 2013, 08:44 PM

And a wild PowerofDeath appears to join the Orpzes taking over the island. We're doomed D:

Demitri Krotchlikmioff

July 15th, 2013, 08:46 PM

And a wild PowerofDeath appears to join the Orpzes taking over the island. We're doomed D:

Take a job on my island? You can rule the Chinese :(

Laura Vanderbooben

July 15th, 2013, 08:48 PM

It makes sense because death has the power to turn people into 'orpzes.

powerofdeath

July 15th, 2013, 08:48 PM

Oh fuck... FFS... Dx
Guess im getting replaced x.x

Cryptonic

July 15th, 2013, 08:52 PM

Posting on your main account counts as COM claiming. Players committing the act will receive a warning as stated in the rules.
PLEASE! If you post on your main account, PLEASE don't post a second time being like "oh derp i posted on my main".

btw, you will not be notified if someone has been replaced at any point in the game.

Roland Chang

July 15th, 2013, 09:13 PM

tl ,dr.

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 09:16 PM

Heaven has given me another chance. I must find the baby.

Tom Yabo

July 15th, 2013, 09:18 PM

Lol at Orpz and PoD, they failed. I really hope I am not like them.
But anyway let discuss the set up, and our skeleton plan for the first few days.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 09:19 PM

Heaven has given me another chance. I must find the baby.

Whatever you say Brat Prince!

Tom Yabo

July 15th, 2013, 09:19 PM

Heaven has given me another chance. I must find the baby.

Is it me or do you think this is too obvious?

Martin Sugar

July 15th, 2013, 09:23 PM

Hi, hi.

I'm Martin Sugar.

Checking in, and and I'll post more tomorrow.

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 09:24 PM

Whatever you say Brat Prince!

That's what they call this body.

Is it me or do you think this is too obvious?

I welcome and encourage your distrust

Tom Yabo

July 15th, 2013, 09:26 PM

That's what they call this body.

I welcome and encourage your distrust

Nah I was thinking about something else
Forget it though

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 09:28 PM

Nah I was thinking about something else
Forget it though

Oh. >> I know you meant and tbh I want to forget that

madbird20

July 15th, 2013, 09:32 PM

Concerning the setup, at first glance I would assume we have a number of Doctors and/or bodyguards. The reason I think this is that the only people who can be an investigative role are the Federal Agents, and there are only two of them. Which leads me to my first question for the host: Were the roles completely randomized? Cause if they were, discussing most likely roles is pointless, as the host did not select them.

On Lestat: I'm not really sure what he's up to. My first reaction is Jester, but I'm not 100 percent sure.

Also, this will be my last post for tonight. Good night everyone; I shall speak to you all again tomorrow.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 09:35 PM

What kind of island is this? We have Orpzes, PoD's, and now we have mad birds. No wonder no one comes to this island anymore.

Dr Jordan Edilstein

July 15th, 2013, 09:37 PM

What kind of island is this? We have Orpzes, PoD's, and now we have mad birds. No wonder no one comes to this island anymore.

We also have little grey aliens in disguise... don't forget that...

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 09:41 PM

Whaaaat? Little grey aliens in disguise? I have no idea what you are talking about...

Tom Yabo

July 15th, 2013, 09:44 PM

Lololol people... Come on!

Ace Chapman

July 15th, 2013, 09:49 PM

Tom Yabo

July 15th, 2013, 09:54 PM

Tom Yabo

July 15th, 2013, 09:55 PM

Ah Im at east coast too, might join you in a few mins
Also in the quote, i put answers

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 09:56 PM

Oh gawsh, first Orpzes, then PoDs, now we have Angry Birds to contend with. This is just getting out of hand...

On a more serious note, though, I have a couple of questions for those who are still here:
1. Assuming the answer to Madbird's question is no, what roles do you think the host would choose for the various alignments?
2. What do you think of Roland's one "tl,dr" post? Scummy, trolly, other?
3. ...That's all I got at the moment. I'm on Eastern time and it's almost 1:00AM, so I'm a little fried right now. I'm gonna stay up a little longer and see who answers these and hopefully spark some discussion so I have something to read in the morning.

I'll answer

1. Neutral wise we will probably have a benign so I am guessing jester/amnesiac. I'm not sure if there is going to be an exec. I think we are going to end up having a cult just because the art collectors are going to have to be against someone major. Then probably a ritual killer for a neutral killing. Jester/Exec Cult LeaderRitual Killer Those are my thoughts on the neutrals atm.

2. I think it was just a troll post or he didn't care when he wrote it because it is late for some people and I'm sure most of the people won't post for a while still.

I'll comment on the art collector team in a min.

Tom Yabo

July 15th, 2013, 09:57 PM

Also answer my answer to his number two.
What is tldr?

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 09:57 PM

I'll answer

1. Neutral wise we will probably have a benign so I am guessing jester/amnesiac. I'm not sure if there is going to be an exec. I think we are going to end up having a cult just because the art collectors are going to have to be against someone major. Then probably a ritual killer for a neutral killing. Jester/Exec Cult Leader Ritual Killer Those are my thoughts on the neutrals atm.

2. I think it was just a troll post or he didn't care when he wrote it because it is late for some people and I'm sure most of the people won't post for a while still.

I'll comment on the art collector team in a min.

Sheesh those came in very dark.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 10:00 PM

Right now I'll comment on the federal agents. I am sure that one of them is going to be a sheriff/invest/det/lookout because we need an investigative role. The other I can see being a killing role. If we end up having a blacksmith then maybe I can see the federals being both investigative roles since the blacksmith can hand out guns.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 10:03 PM

Also answer my answer to his number two.
What is tldr?

tl; dr is just a short way of saying Too Long; Didn't read.

Tommy Calhoun

July 15th, 2013, 10:05 PM

Oh gawsh, first Orpzes, then PoDs, now we have Angry Birds to contend with. This is just getting out of hand...

On a more serious note, though, I have a couple of questions for those who are still here:
1. Assuming the answer to Madbird's question is no, what roles do you think the host would choose for the various alignments?
2. What do you think of Roland's one "tl,dr" post? Scummy, trolly, other?
3. ...That's all I got at the moment. I'm on Eastern time and it's almost 1:00AM, so I'm a little fried right now. I'm gonna stay up a little longer and see who answers these and hopefully spark some discussion so I have something to read in the morning.

1: Thief (the mod really put effort in that rolecard, so there's a chance he wants someone to play it).
If there's a coroner, then there's a janitor (since this site is pretty strict with setups being standard).
Graverobber (see Thief).
Either Cult, Ritual Killer or Banshee.
A single journalist.
Some protectives.
Many vanillas and probably a blacksmith.

2: Trolls tend to be scum, so yeah. Scummy.

Ace Chapman

July 15th, 2013, 10:07 PM

East coast buddies 4evah! :D tl;dr means "Too long; didn't read". I'm unsure if he was saying this to the host's post about COM claiming to troll, or to the thread in general. He could just be trolling, but as I see it, that post seems very un-Townlike, as the day chat is the Town's most powerful tool. And I am assuming many Citizens as well, since the NK(s) can choose to appear as Citizen, and Godfather appears as Citizen as well, so there would have to be a lot of Citizens for them to hide with. But as the Angry Bird pointed out (Lol I love calling him that), if the host randomized roles, then setup-analysis is screwed. But I highly doubt it, as that could lead to a very imbalanced game.

I also agree with Sholanda's Federal Agent analysis, as it would make the most sense. Not sure about the Neutral analysis; I'll be going over that myself in a minute.

Thomas, why do you assume only 1 Journalist? And what do you think of Edilstein's possible Amnesiac soft-claim?

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 15th, 2013, 10:09 PM

Lol...jeez...so much fail today

I can't bring myself to RP an angel attempting to carry out the apocalypse so I'll just be a bisexual vampire for my namesake.

Oh gawsh, first Orpzes, then PoDs, now we have Angry Birds to contend with. This is just getting out of hand...

On a more serious note, though, I have a couple of questions for those who are still here:
1. Assuming the answer to Madbird's question is no, what roles do you think the host would choose for the various alignments?
2. What do you think of Roland's one "tl,dr" post? Scummy, trolly, other?
3. ...That's all I got at the moment. I'm on Eastern time and it's almost 1:00AM, so I'm a little fried right now. I'm gonna stay up a little longer and see who answers these and hopefully spark some discussion so I have something to read in the morning.

1) Godfather included, Consort/Consigliere because it's a solid scum role and able to CC strong Town roles, Thief because of setup/Rp, and for the last one, maybe Framer. Host believes Framer is a strong role and in this setup, it has additional abilities to deceive Lookouts/Detectives, instead of just Sheriffs/Invests.

Town is an orgy of possible roles. I would expect the Federal Agent roles to be 1 Killing and 1 Invest, rather than both of the same type. Thrill Seeker is at least 3 citizens for balance. I would be surprised to see less.

Neutral is probably contain a Witch. They're a common role and theres magic in this castle and shit. Exec/Jester/Amnesiac are another common set of roles for Neutrals, not too unbelievable. Last one is a tossup between SK/Arsonist for KPN. While Cult is possible (if it is, I'd say there's no Witch), I prefer to be optimistic and hope it isn't.

2) I get a Town read off of it, as Mafias tend to be more cautious in their posts, and I don't read disrespecting a host's post as cautious.

3) That's not a question.

Ace Chapman

July 15th, 2013, 10:11 PM

Also, there are 3 neutrals; Lord and Lady Varen, and their Groundskeeper. Just a little something to keep in mind when you analyze Neutrals(which I shall go do right now)

Also, what do you think of the possibility that the host included 1 or 2 Blacksmiths and made both Agents Investigative? Possible? Unlikely?

Ace Chapman

July 15th, 2013, 10:12 PM

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 10:13 PM

Ok for the mercenaries I believe they will have a consig/consort.
Everyone says thief and it seems very probable the way the set up is made.
I don't think it will be a framer though. I think it might actually be a tailor if we have a grave robber as a neutral.

Tailor makes a citizen look like a vigilante lets just say.
Graverobber robs the corpse. Graverobber is useless for a night. I think janitor/tailor is going to be in game if we have a grave robber as neutral. If grave robber as neutral then I am guessing Amnesiac/Jester then grave robber and then a ritual killer.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 10:15 PM

OH, and on the note of Framer confusing Detectives/Lookouts, and host's belief about Framers, I wouldn't think it unlikely for our Investigative Agent to be one of these roles. (Okay, I'm done. Proceeding with Neutral analysis)

Considering we are going to only know for sure we will have 1 invest role, but I think that we are going to have 2 and a blacksmith a framer isn't that helpful in a set up like this. It is very unlikely for them to actually hit a framed target when you have so little invests in the game.

Tommy Calhoun

July 15th, 2013, 10:16 PM

Thomas, why do you assume only 1 Journalist? And what do you think of Edilstein's possible Amnesiac soft-claim?
I was considering a late game with two journalist (either claims or found by invest) and a sheriff; if the sheriff checks one, the other would likely be in the opposite faction, effectively getting one scum while clearing a player.

About the Amnesiac, I'm not sure. Any non-killing/non-cult neutral (besides the Executioner, who is forced to be anti-town) has an equal ammount of power to turn the table as he/she pleases.

Sholanda Dykes

July 15th, 2013, 10:19 PM

Also if anyone is wondering why I think ritual killer here is my reasoning. In a game where we only know for sure we have 1 investigative role then I don't think that we are going to have a banshee who can keep on killing everyone. The 1 confirmed invest role we have needs time to actually get solid leads on the art collectors. The ritual killer gets stronger the longer this goes on, but it helps the invest too since it is less likely he will get hit right away too.

I still think we are going to have a blacksmith over 1 invest and 1 killing. 1 invest role seems very unlikely.

Cryptonic

July 15th, 2013, 10:22 PM

Were the roles completely randomized?

that's one secret i'll never tell.
-xoxo gossipgirl

Ace Chapman

July 15th, 2013, 10:50 PM

There's definitely a Banshee/Arson as KPN will be way too low without them, imo.

[snip]a framer isn't that helpful in a set up like this. It is very unlikely for them to actually hit a framed target when you have so little invests in the game.

Agreed. So, the general consensus seems to be:

Mafia:
Art Collector
Consort/Consig
Thief/Janitor
Tailor

Town:
Invest/Det/Look/Sher
Invest/Killing(based on presence of Blacksmith in-game)
11 Townies(Largely vanilla, with probably at least 1 blacksmith and 1 Journalist)

Neutral:
Benign(Amnes,Jest,Exe,)
Evil(Witch,Cult,CJ,Graverobber,Ghost)
Killing(RK, Banshee)

Imo, if there isn't a Thief, there'll be a Graverobber and vice versa. If there's only 1 Investigative, I'm thinking RK, as Banshee can pierce all healing under correct circumstances, which would be disastrous for us. If 2 Investigatives, then probability for Banshee increases, although I still doubt it. Ritual Killer seems more likely, as I think Host would want a longer, more satisfying game than Banshee would allow.

(Quick question for host: Assume Art Collector kills a Blacksmith whose LW states who he gave stuff to. Janitor cleans Blacksmith's role and LW. Tailor dresses Blacksmith as Vigilante. Are we notified that the Smith's LW is missing in this scenario? Are we notified of LW missing if Janitor cleans and there is no Tailor? )

And with that, I bid you all adieu, for I must go to bed now :( Good night all.

Sidney Huffman

July 15th, 2013, 11:04 PM

goin to bed fellow thrill seekers, cya laters

Charles Bronson

July 15th, 2013, 11:23 PM

I'm wasted as balls at the moment. What is the post requirement?

Charles Bronson

July 15th, 2013, 11:26 PM

For future reference, I welcome any attempts to buddy with me.

We are totes friends.

Sup guys. Link to set up please?

Learn to setup link fuck.

Or am I a Doctor because I have a PHD in something?

Hell if I know...

Fuck you.

Charles Bronson

July 15th, 2013, 11:44 PM

Game starts on day so which day action roles do we think are in game.

Journalist
Corrupt Journalist
Jailor
Interrogator
Architect

I'd say town likely has an architect. Cryptic likely wants to see his federal agents fall into a night chat.

Beyond that I think journalist/corrupt or Jailor/interrogation is likely,

Charles Bronson

July 15th, 2013, 11:49 PM

that's one secret i'll never tell.
-xoxo gossipgirl

Mine wasn't. Me thinks,

Charles Bronson

July 15th, 2013, 11:50 PM

There's definitely a Banshee/Arson as KPN will be way too low without them, imo.

Agreed. So, the general consensus seems to be:

Mafia:
Art Collector
Consort/Consig
Thief/Janitor
Tailor

Town:
Invest/Det/Look/Sher
Invest/Killing(based on presence of Blacksmith in-game)
11 Townies(Largely vanilla, with probably at least 1 blacksmith and 1 Journalist)

Neutral:
Benign(Amnes,Jest,Exe,)
Evil(Witch,Cult,CJ,Graverobber,Ghost)
Killing(RK, Banshee)

Imo, if there isn't a Thief, there'll be a Graverobber and vice versa. If there's only 1 Investigative, I'm thinking RK, as Banshee can pierce all healing under correct circumstances, which would be disastrous for us. If 2 Investigatives, then probability for Banshee increases, although I still doubt it. Ritual Killer seems more likely, as I think Host would want a longer, more satisfying game than Banshee would allow.

(Quick question for host: Assume Art Collector kills a Blacksmith whose LW states who he gave stuff to. Janitor cleans Blacksmith's role and LW. Tailor dresses Blacksmith as Vigilante. Are we notified that the Smith's LW is missing in this scenario? Are we notified of LW missing if Janitor cleans and there is no Tailor? )

And with that, I bid you all adieu, for I must go to bed now :( Good night all.

Fck you. Prepare to be metad. Can't com accuse,

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 12:08 AM

Lets make a poll.what drink was I sippin on?

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 12:08 AM

Was? Lol.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 12:09 AM

Who the only nigga eve smoked you under the table?

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 12:10 AM

Who the only nigga eve smoked you under the table?

Willy Nelson.

Rashid

July 16th, 2013, 12:12 AM

Howdy y'all, just checking in before I leave to go eat.

I find it hilarious that we had 3 separate people post on their main accounts all on day one XD. You think they'd be more careful.

Comments on setup:

I wouldn't be surprised if both fed agents were investigative, one being a sheriff/invest and the other a lookout/detective. After all, the RP has them here to find the Cult and Ritual Killer, not to kill them. This would also make logical room for a Framer in the mercenaries, and a blacksmith among the thrill seekers. There's probably either a janitor or a tailor among the mercenaries, but not both. I'm thinking tailor. Last mercenary could be a thief, or maybe interrogator or consort.

For the neutrals, well, I'm guessing the groundskeeper is a killing, either a Ritual Killer or a Banshee. Lord Varen is probably a Cult Leader, and Lady Varen a Witch.
Actually, that's probably too much power in the neutrals. Perhaps either the groundskeeper or the Lord Varen is some more benign type of neutral instead.

For the thrill seekers: Likely a token protective role or two, doctor/bg. Probably a coroner to counter the janitor/tailor. Already mentioned a blacksmith. At least 4 citizens, perhaps one of which is a "bulletproof". Probably an architect or journalist, not likely but not impossible that there's both.

I'ma go eat now.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 12:13 AM

Tommy Calhoun

July 16th, 2013, 12:33 AM

Charles Bronson

15% chance of him being a neutral.
If he's a neutral, there's an 8.3% chance that he's a jester.
So... there's less than 1% chance of he actually being the jester he's playing.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 01:02 AM

To,my you suck.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 01:04 AM

Charles Bronson

15% chance of him being a neutral.
If he's a neutral, there's an 8.3% chance that he's a jester.
So... there's less than 1% chance of he actually being the jester he's playing.

I'm a bit less drunk now. Let me respond with this.
Tommy Calhoun

Sgt. Pepper

July 16th, 2013, 01:56 AM

*yawns*
My word, I appear to have overslept. Most unfortunate, I do apologise. Rather gruesome business with the Captain, what?
Anywho, onto the analysis.

I think that we have the numbers to have every unique role among the thrill seekers, though I do admit it would be unlikely. Personally I think Journalist is the least likely to have arrived, though I can't tell if the arrivals are randomised.
For the neutrals, thematically it would make sense for Lord and Lady Varen to be roles that aren't conflicting, but again, I can't say about any random element.
For the mercenaries...well now, that one is a more difficult one. There are several roles that could work here, and I'm hesitant to speculate without further information.

Max Jets

July 16th, 2013, 03:31 AM

Rashid

July 16th, 2013, 03:59 AM

Took you a long time to post that.

Rashid

Took you a short time to post that.

Charles Bronson

Rashid

July 16th, 2013, 04:01 AM

Charles Bronson

^.^

Anyone wanna talk about anything other than roles list conjecture today?

Max Jets

July 16th, 2013, 04:06 AM

Charles Bronson

^.^

Anyone wanna talk about anything other than roles list conjecture today?

Why? does the rolelist scare you?

Demitri Krotchlikmioff

July 16th, 2013, 04:11 AM

Rashid

July 16th, 2013, 04:12 AM

Why? does the rolelist scare you?

No, but after the umpteenth person poses their guess at the role list, it begins to bore me.

I prefer some variety in our topics of conversation

Variety is the spice of life. It keeps things interesting, and thus promotes more/better conversation, which is pretty much always good in an entirely text/conversation based game such as this.

Max Jets

July 16th, 2013, 04:23 AM

Uh....

If you are so smart then post your rolelist, please.

Sholanda Dykes

July 16th, 2013, 04:53 AM

Yo! I finally broke out of jail. I managed to steal the rolelist aswell.

Roles List

Art Collector
Hidden Interrogator
Hidden Consigliere
Hidden Thief
Hidden Detective
Hidden Jailor
Hidden Architect
Hidden Doctor
Hidden Escort
Hidden Journalist
Hidden Blacksmith
Hidden Coroner
Hidden Citizen
Hidden Citizen
Hidden Citizen
Hidden Citizen
Hidden Citizen
Lord Varen (Hidden Witch)
Lady Varen (Hidden Banshee)
Groundskeeper (Hidden Ghost)

Not that I disagree with your list, but what makes you think the only investigative a detective. I just feel like with only a detective as the invest and a Banshee + the art collector the game is going to go by very fast by the time he can actually guess right and get a solid lead. I would substitute the jailor for an investigative role and keep the blacksmith on there. Most likely if there is a jailing role it will be an interrogator.

Max Jets

July 16th, 2013, 05:02 AM

Not that I disagree with your list, but what makes you think the only investigative a detective. I just feel like with only a detective as the invest and a Banshee + the art collector the game is going to go by very fast by the time he can actually guess right and get a solid lead. I would substitute the jailor for an investigative role and keep the blacksmith on there. Most likely if there is a jailing role it will be an interrogator.

Only the federal agents can be investigative roles and i think at least 1 of them is a killing role. the lack of investigative roles makes me think that the town has a journalist, architect or both. The detective could be switched out for a sheriff or another investigative role but i only think the town will have a sheriff if the mafia has a framer.

Sholanda Dykes

July 16th, 2013, 05:05 AM

Roles List

Art Collector
Hidden Interrogator
Hidden Consigliere
Hidden Tailor
Hidden Detective/Lookout
Hidden Invest/Sheriff
Hidden Architect
Hidden Doctor
Hidden Escort
Hidden Journalist
Hidden Blacksmith
Hidden Coroner
Hidden Citizen
Hidden Citizen
Hidden Citizen
Hidden Citizen
Hidden Citizen
Lord Varen (Hidden Jester/Amnesiac)
Lady Varen (Hidden Ritual Killer)
Groundskeeper (Hidden Graverobber)

That is an updated look at what I think is more probable.

Thief and Graverobber will probably clash too much so either one or the other. We need a neutral in this setup that can win by other means than just getting to the town to die. Thief and Interrogator are too strong together because they can both end up killing someone by their own means and that could easily screw the town. Tailor versus Janitor and I think tailor is more likely if we have a graverobber in the setup. Consigliere can stay since they either have a consig or a consort for their base mafia role.

Sholanda Dykes

July 16th, 2013, 05:08 AM

Only the federal agents can be investigative roles and i think at least 1 of them is a killing role. the lack of investigative roles makes me think that the town has a journalist, architect or both. The detective could be switched out for a sheriff or another investigative role but i only think the town will have a sheriff if the mafia has a framer.

Well I see what you mean, but the blacksmith could potentially be the killing role in the set up if they end up being both investigative roles.

Cryptonic

July 16th, 2013, 05:13 AM

Assume Art Collector kills a Blacksmith whose LW states who he gave stuff to. Janitor cleans Blacksmith's role and LW. Tailor dresses Blacksmith as Vigilante. Are we notified that the Smith's LW is missing in this scenario? Are we notified of LW missing if Janitor cleans and there is no Tailor?

No, if the target is cleaned, the town will only be notified that no last will was found.

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 06:04 AM

No, but after the umpteenth person poses their guess at the role list, it begins to bore me.

I prefer some variety in our topics of conversation

Variety is the spice of life. It keeps things interesting, and thus promotes more/better conversation, which is pretty much always good in an entirely text/conversation based game such as this.

Please, suggest something. I'm interested in hearing what you would rather us discuss.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 06:12 AM

Sholanda Dykes

July 16th, 2013, 06:17 AM

I'ma go with scum for this condiment.
Sgt. Pepper

Instead of randomly voting people and not contributing at all you should give us your idea of what you think the list is and the possible roles.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 06:22 AM

Instead of randomly voting people and not contributing at all you should give us your idea of what you think the list is and the possible roles.

That's retarded and everyone that thinks it will help is stupid. After night 1 we will have feedback to actually make a decision on some level.

I'm gonna slot you as a bad player for thinking early voting is bad, that my vote was fully random, and that it didn't contribute. I was wasted last night so my posts were very inefficient, but I've come down now so lets realize I am now focused. Sgt. Pepper came back Super Mafia too me last night. I am Mega Sheriff.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 06:26 AM

Mega Sheriff: check someone for scum during the day by not being stupid.

You people would prefer to discuss roles in the roles list instead of people. Cryptonic gave me a role not on the roles let specifically to screw with your minds. He thinks its funny for people to scum hunt during the day. Weird, I know.

Vote Sgt. Pepper.

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 06:29 AM

Sup guys

I don't care about this role list discussion

hf doing shit
kthxbai

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 06:40 AM

I have to agree with Charles on this one. We've milked the roles list for all we can at this stage, and we have a vague idea of what roles are most likely to be in the game. Now's the time to shift our focus onto actual people and continue role speculation tomorrow with more feedback. So with that, I'm gonna go with Charles' pressure vote, as there's no one that particularly strikes me as scum (Other than that Roland Chang character, but we should focus on one suspect at a time)

Sgt. Pepper

Professor Baxter

July 16th, 2013, 07:21 AM

Art Collector
Hidden Mercenary - consort
Hidden Mercenary - theif
Hidden Mercenary - consigliere

Hidden Federal Agent - lookout
Hidden Federal Agent - vigilante
Hidden Thrill Seeker - architect
Hidden Thrill Seeker - escort
Hidden Thrill Seeker - blacksmith
Hidden Thrill Seeker - journalist
Hidden Thrill Seeker - doctor
Hidden Thrill Seeker - bodyguard
Hidden Thrill Seeker - bulletproof
Hidden Thrill Seeker - cit
Hidden Thrill Seeker - cit
Hidden Thrill Seeker - cit
Hidden Thrill Seeker - cit

Lord Varen (Hidden Neutral) - banshee
Lady Varen (Hidden Neutral) - witch
Groundskeeper (Hidden Neutral) - ghost

Pete Pendelman

July 16th, 2013, 07:28 AM

Pete Pendelman

July 16th, 2013, 07:35 AM

I see you chane watching us from your boat and your binoculars

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 07:36 AM

i agrre with this and hi pete pendleman here i dont think dr badass is a doc other then that im out

So smart

Sidney Huffman

July 16th, 2013, 08:24 AM

sgt. pepper

why the hell not

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 08:52 AM

Who's alive right now?
Sidney, vote Sgt. Pepper

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 08:56 AM

Lol you did. Avatar confused me.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 08:57 AM

These American Dad avatars are going to bug me being so similar.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 08:58 AM

2 guests viewing.
Mystery reserve confirmed?

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 09:00 AM

I'm here. Just kind of lurking cause there's not much to do but wait for people to get here and possibly vote Pepper. Also, if I'm not on the members list but there's a guest, it's probably me, cause I'm keeping this game open while I do other things so I can keep an eye on it.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 09:01 AM

Ace. Turn invisibility off.
This goes for everyone. Posting with invisibility on says you're hiding.

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 09:02 AM

Yeah, I just did that. I turned it on when the game started because I wanted to protect my COM, but then I realized that's kind of pointless for various reasons. I'm leaving it off for the remainder of the game.

Is there something we should be discussing?

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 09:05 AM

Pete, Elisha, and Baxter posted, and did not mention the early voting. Thoughts?

Also, hey Ace..... I like vanilla ice cream.

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 09:08 AM

I don't give a fuck about the early voting.

Also lol at the "turn off invisibility mode else scum bcuz hide"

go do some detective work

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 09:10 AM

Baxter seemed to have read through the thread, as he gave an opinion on the roles list that seems to be influenced by the thoughts of other posters. Elisha seems to be one of those "I don't give a crap" people(Proved in above post), and Pete seemed to just pop in to say "I like this post". Not getting a lot off of them at the moment, unless you see something I don't. Only one that I would consider looking into (on the basis of the not commenting on the early vote) would be Baxter, as he seems somewhat intelligent (no offense to Elisha or Pete intended)

also... Vanilla sucks. Chocolate better. Mmmm.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 09:11 AM

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 09:12 AM

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 09:13 AM

Elisha, it isn't necessarily a scum tell, but it lessens communication and prevents maximum knowledge. It is more advantageous to scum.

Town should do it as it simply allows for more knowledge to be had of who is around.

Ok, not caring is a thought process. Why do you not care?

Because you are voting based on so few posts while scum can just watch the votes pile on someone and join the train because it's expected of them

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 09:15 AM

Because you are voting based on so few posts while scum can just watch the votes pile on someone and join the train because it's expected of them

Ok, reasonable. Could I get an assisted pressure vote from you. I agree there are few posts and would like to see what Pepper thinks of the mercenaries now that I've given him some incentive to figure it out. 4 should make a point. Just a pressure vote, no need to lynch yet.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 09:17 AM

4 out of town would need all 7 scum to come together to hammer immediately. It's not a danger of them jumping on, especially this early.

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 09:23 AM

Though I don't see big benefit from it. We could just ask kindly for some insight instead of voting because most likely we won't lynch that person and the person knows it.

Uncle Kappy

July 16th, 2013, 09:24 AM

I'm going to have to fix the time on these posts.

Anyway, Charles is right about voting. It gives us information even if we have no leads. In this case, Elisha is defending Sgt. Pepper. Noted.

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 09:25 AM

Not to seem too buddyish, but also if scum did that, they'd have tons of FoS on them for hammering so early into the day. We're only 14 hours into a 48 hour day, so scum would have to be utterly retarded to attempt anything like that

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 09:27 AM

I'm going to have to fix the time on these posts.

Anyway, Charles is right about voting. It gives us information even if we have no leads. In this case, Elisha is defending Sgt. Pepper. Noted.

We can pressure people perfectly fine without telling people to vote. People who want to vote go do that, people like me who see it as a waste of red color won't vote. Easy as pie.

Your need to point out me defending someone reeks of scum.

Professor Baxter

July 16th, 2013, 09:29 AM

if we're going to be looking into people for not mentioning the voting, then maybe we should also be looking into the people who are voting. why vote so early on? its likely only going to hurt town.

Uncle Kappy

July 16th, 2013, 09:31 AM

We can pressure people perfectly fine without telling people to vote. People who want to vote go do that, people like me who see it as a waste of red color won't vote. Easy as pie.

Your need to point out me defending someone reeks of scum.

Nah, it points out someone who woke up and is trying to say something pro town since the role list thing is dead. (So yea actually :D)

"Waste of red color" We will get more. Voting is the easiest method of pressure. As long as you don't go past L-2 or L-3 you're fine. You are correct that you can pressure someone without voting, but I find that method goes hand in hand with voting people.

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 09:32 AM

I already explained how this can only HELP the Town. No scum who's anywhere near intelligent would dare bring a pressure vote close to a lynch, let alone hammer. There's virtually no chance Pepper will be hammered unless he does something to appear scummy.

Uncle Kappy

July 16th, 2013, 09:32 AM

if we're going to be looking into people for not mentioning the voting, then maybe we should also be looking into the people who are voting. why vote so early on? its likely only going to hurt town.

Not really. I have played very little games where voting someone for pressure early on was a bad move.

Besides it gives us something to talk about xD

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 09:34 AM

Nah, it points out someone who woke up and is trying to say something pro town since the role list thing is dead. (So yea actually :D)

"Waste of red color" We will get more. Voting is the easiest method of pressure. As long as you don't go past L-2 or L-3 you're fine. You are correct that you can pressure someone without voting, but I find that method goes hand in hand with voting people.

Sure, both ways work, but I don't want to vote just because someone told me to vote. I don't see the need to vote, he is already getting pressure because others are voting, so why ask me specifically to vote?

Uncle Kappy

July 16th, 2013, 09:36 AM

Sure, both ways work, but I don't want to vote just because someone told me to vote. I don't see the need to vote, he is already getting pressure because others are voting, so why ask me specifically to vote?

Because you are here and he is L-8? (Not that I have voted either, I would rather pressure someone else)

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 09:37 AM

If you have a pressure target, please share. Pepper isn't here, so our pressuring him isn't going to do much until he gets here. Until then, discussing another potential suspect would be good.

Professor Baxter

July 16th, 2013, 09:38 AM

Not really. I have played very little games where voting someone for pressure early on was a bad move.

Besides it gives us something to talk about xD

i fully disagree with this. you musnt have played very many games then.

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 09:38 AM

Because you are here and he is L-8? (Not that I have voted either, I would rather pressure someone else)

Still not seeing the point. He has pressure on him and I personally don't see a reason to pressure him.

Professor Baxter

July 16th, 2013, 09:39 AM

Uncle Kappy

July 16th, 2013, 09:40 AM

If you have a pressure target, please share. Pepper isn't here, so our pressuring him isn't going to do much until he gets here. Until then, discussing another potential suspect would be good.

Fine, I pick Elisha! JKJK

No seriously I would like to FoS Rashid or Professor Baxter. Its up to you.

Uncle Kappy

July 16th, 2013, 09:41 AM

i fully disagree with this. you musnt have played very many games then.

If only you knew.

Still not seeing the point. He has pressure on him and I personally don't see a reason to pressure him.

But he sees a reason and wants you to vote him. Thats why he asked :P

i feel thats cutting it way to close on day 1
Yea lets go ahead and pressure Baxter, who doesn't even see how we would get a scum if they hammered/brought to L-1.

Professor Baxter

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 09:43 AM

[snip]
Note: Since days are 48 hours, there will be no lynching before the first 24 hours have passed (although, you may still vote and use the vote counter!). However, Day One will be a majority vote at the very beginning.
[snip]
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*cough cough* We can't lynch for another... 10 hours. So all this is is pressure voting, saying that "Hey, if you don't answer, we'll lynch you when we can". There's no risk until the first 24 hours are past (and I will personally unvote if I have a vote on someone who is close to lynching after the 24 hours are past)

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 09:44 AM

*cough cough* We can't lynch for another... 10 hours. So all this is is pressure voting, saying that "Hey, if you don't answer, we'll lynch you when we can". There's no risk until the first 24 hours are past (and I will personally unvote if I have a vote on someone who is close to lynching after the 24 hours are past)

And you are saying that as response to who?

If this is directed to me then I'm not voting because I fear a hammer, I'm not voting because I don't see a reason.

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 09:45 AM

*then I'm not not voting because I fear a hammer, I'm not voting because I don't see a reason.

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 09:45 AM

I'm directing it towards Baxter, who IS afraid of a hammer. I understand your reason for not voting, and I respect those reasons, I just think that your vote could be useful in pressuring someone with no risk of scum hammering (which imo is illogical for previously stated reasons)

Professor Baxter

July 16th, 2013, 09:47 AM

Yea lets go ahead and pressure Baxter, who doesn't even see how we would get a scum if they hammered/brought to L-1.

Professor Baxter

i'm just confused as to why you want everyone to pressure the same person who isn't even here.. do we want to take a chance when scum can so easily swoop in and hammer if you got him to L-1.

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 09:55 AM

I think someone's either ignoring my posts or having reading comprehension... I have given you ample reasons as to why RVS voting is good at this stage. No scum would even think about bringing our target to l-1 or even l-2 or 3, because it would be like screaming "HEY GUYS I'M SCUM COME KILL ME!!!" Only thing I agree with you on is the pointlessness of voting someone who isn't here to respond.

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 10:18 AM

Hello, Charles. Care to give thoughts on the recent conversation?

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 10:22 AM

Well. While Elisha is likely correct that nothing might happen, I note her unwillingness to try to make something happen. Also in relation to Pepper who I find scummy for his post I quoted.

I am ok with changing pressure at this time since Pepper isn't here, but I would enjoy having him walk in flustered at the votes. It is easily the time to draw weak defenses.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 10:23 AM

I'll be in and out erratically. On vacation and wifi is not abundant.

Laura Vanderbooben

July 16th, 2013, 10:27 AM

It's hard to pressure someone without voting. Pressure is necessary.

Sgt. Pepper

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 10:29 AM

Would you consider Elisha's unwillingness a town or scum tell? I have an opinion but don't want to alter your's or anyone else's opinion by stating mine prematurely.

I wish Pepper would get on so we could change to a better target (I'm in agreement with Kappy about Baxter. Very unwilling to vote anyone even when his argument is countered, and vanishes the moment I try to engage him directly)

Uncle Kappy

July 16th, 2013, 10:32 AM

i'm just confused as to why you want everyone to pressure the same person who isn't even here.. do we want to take a chance when scum can so easily swoop in and hammer if you got him to L-1.

You aren't listening. My goal is to pressure vote someone, and to pressure vote someone they need to be voted on a a lot (but still the minority) of people. As stated again, I don't want to go past L-2/L-3, if someone were to hammer that would make them scum.

Also, I'm not pressuring someone who isn't here, you seem to be here right now.

Uncle Kappy

July 16th, 2013, 10:33 AM

lol New posts didn't come up. xD

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 10:35 AM

Uncle Kappy

July 16th, 2013, 10:36 AM

Uncle Kappy

July 16th, 2013, 10:38 AM

It's eerie how much Kappy, Bronson and I are echoing each other o.0 I'm starting to think if I didn't post, you guys would post what I would have posted XD Also, I think Baxter is offline. He appeared in members list last time he was on, so unless he suddenly turned invisible mode on (Which I would consider scummy due to the timing of it) he is offline.
:O What if there is a Vent and your the Ventriloquist :O LYNCH THE CP9 SCUM (jkjk, logical thought processes are logical)

Host should have turned invisible mode on, I have a terrrible habit of leaving sc2mafia running when I'm not at my computer.

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 10:42 AM

Now you're scaring me XD I do the same thing. I like to know the moment something happens, so I stay online even though I'm off doing other things. And yes.. I AM THE VENTRILOQUIST! Fear me! I shall make all of you talk like my clones! :P

*Seriousmodeon* I agree with the Elisha as Town sentiment, although at first I read it as scum (until she explained exactly why she didn't want to vote.) But I disagree with Invisible Mode. As Bronson has stated, it only limits the Town in knowing who is on and what potential information we might have because of it.

Also, I'd like to see more posts from Laura.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 11:01 AM

I would take Elisha as a scum at the moment. She dodges Pepper, and says we shouldn't pressure since scum could hammer. However, all this does is let other players vote instead of her. I also find her refusal to turn off invisible, and seeming comfort with letting today go to waste to be atleast a negative, if not full scum.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 11:03 AM

The actions seemingly draw attention without being full heartedly menacing. This somewhat confuses me and makes me consider the possibility of a Jester. But I doubt one would push it this early. I'm not entirely sure what to think at this time.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 11:05 AM

Elisha might not be scum, but I do not trust her.

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 11:06 AM

I have to disagree there. Not once did she say she feared a scum hammer (unless you can find a quote for me), which supports her saying that she personally did not find Pepper scummy and as such did not want to vote him. I'd like to continue watching her before saying she's scum. Imo she's just a Town with a personality that can appear scummy.

And please turn off Invisible Mode guys. It's annoying more than anything else.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 11:06 AM

It's hard to pressure someone without voting. Pressure is necessary.

Sgt. Pepper

Why do you agree with the pressure?

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 11:10 AM

Because you are voting based on so few posts while scum can just watch the votes pile on someone and join the train because it's expected of them

This would be where I felt she was saying they'd hammer, but I suppose just joining the train isn't quite a hammer.

Though I don't see big benefit from it. We could just ask kindly for some insight instead of voting because most likely we won't lynch that person and the person knows it.

This post is my biggest issue. Elisha is flat out telling Town, and scum, to not try to get things done. Convincing the players to be passive and not pressure because 'I won't work' makes it not work.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 11:12 AM

It won't work*

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 11:16 AM

Day is our discussion, information, observation, and kill time.

I feel uncomfortable with anyone that seems hellbent on throwing that all away.

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 11:18 AM

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 11:24 AM

It won't work as most imagine it because it simply doesn't on the first day. People aren't stupid enough to not answer which results in getting themselves lynched just through pressure, getting my point?

Also I'm not turning off invisibility mode because I have my browser open all day long even for long periods where I'm not actually on the computer. It's annoying if people think I am there even though I am actually away for like 50% of the time.

I too, have my browser open all day and will be more apparent in this fact once I am on more consistent wifi. All this does is bring people my way for discussion. Discussion is good, and if you plan on taking part people likely won't mind that you took a while.

Also, as far as the odds to get nothing done are high, an attitude that nothing can possibly be done makes the chances go from slim to 0.

You might be town, maybe, but you are heavily harming your cause if so.

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 11:26 AM

I too, have my browser open all day and will be more apparent in this fact once I am on more consistent wifi. All this does is bring people my way for discussion. Discussion is good, and if you plan on taking part people likely won't mind that you took a while.

Also, as far as the odds to get nothing done are high, an attitude that nothing can possibly be done makes the chances go from slim to 0.

You might be town, maybe, but you are heavily harming your cause if so.
If you seriously think that I have said that nothing can be done on this day then your reading comprehension isn't very good.

And it's annoying in so far that people will be like "hurr durr why iz u lurking Elisha"

goddamn scrubs

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 11:30 AM

If you seriously think that I have said that nothing can be done on this day then your reading comprehension isn't very good.

And it's annoying in so far that people will be like "hurr durr why iz u lurking Elisha"

goddamn scrubs

I don't consider you lurking. Like at all. Lurking matters the next day.

If you do not think lynching will work in any situation what would you suggest we do instead.

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 11:32 AM

I don't consider you lurking. Like at all. Lurking matters the next day.

If you do not think lynching will work in any situation what would you suggest we do instead.

Yes, now I'm not, but it can happen, it could happen, it may happen.

And I suggest we pressure.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 11:38 AM

Yes, now I'm not, but it can happen, it could happen, it may happen.

And I suggest we pressure.

Ndjeosnssn that is what my voting is for! Lol

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 11:44 AM

Lol XD So, with that out of the way... Elisha, who do you think would be a good pressure target, since you're obviously opposed to the Pepper train. I'd like to specifically say what do you think of Professor Baxter?

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 11:48 AM

Also, I know you've said you don't want to turn invisible mode off, but I personally would greatly prefer knowing that a hidden member is you, someone I believe to be Town, and not some scum lurking around trying not to be seen.

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 11:54 AM

whatever, I'll turn the mode off

dunno, I haven't used my analytic side to look at you guys. from the looks of it I would say that you are a kind of newer player Ace, and Charles looks like he has a bit experience and I somehow feel a certain COM vibe from that player.

But you asked for a pressure target and I dunno about that really. I would take someone who hasn't been here yet because I'm not getting much from the people who have posted already.

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 12:05 PM

Well, I just went through the thread, and all players have checked in today. I'm gonna go back through again and see who has posted least, and of those who has posted the least substance.

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 12:05 PM

By today I mean the game day, not IRL day

Tommy Calhoun

July 16th, 2013, 12:06 PM

I don't know.
While it's true that that's a good way to gather information, I doubt we'll manage to achieve much with a couple of votes at this point.

It take 11 votes to lynch. As it's been pointed out, I doubt scum are dumb enough to try and pull a quickhammer d1. On the other hand, the voted player wouldn't start feeling pressured until... let's say L-3 or so, which might not happen until the day is almost over, and by then, we would've just lost a whole day with day while the scum had to do nothing but sit back, post a couple of random check-in posts and watch as we achieve nothing at all.

That said, I have no better suggestions at this point, other than trying to force the silent players (over 50% of the list) to say something.

Don't force me to use my dayvig skills d1.

Tommy Calhoun

July 16th, 2013, 12:07 PM

takes*
a whole day with that*

Tommy Calhoun

July 16th, 2013, 12:14 PM

Jailor rolecard is missing from the setup.
How many times can the jailor execute?

Tommy Calhoun

July 16th, 2013, 12:15 PM

Ignore that.
Was looking under the Thrill Seeker spoiler. >_>

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 16th, 2013, 12:22 PM

While I can agree with the pressure on Pepper today, it must also be noted that Sidney Huffman has attempted to blend in by being the second to last person to become a Roger, and felt the constant need to remind everyone that he is a Thrill Seeker. Also, sheep vote.

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 16th, 2013, 12:28 PM

Here are the posts I am talking about:

hello fellow thrill seekers
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goin to bed fellow thrill seekers, cya laters

sgt. pepper

why the hell not

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 12:31 PM

I like this. I am content with pressuring Sidney.

Sidney Huffman

I want an analysis of some of the more active players here Sidney.

Tommy Calhoun

July 16th, 2013, 12:33 PM

Well done, Brat Prince.
Sidney Huffman

Ace Chapman

July 16th, 2013, 12:33 PM

So I went through the day and this is what I came up with (Wall of text inc)

page 1-4
All trolling except for Jordan's possible Amnesiac claim (Post #13) and Sidney's trollish vote on Ricky Spanish. Nothing of substance to examine. These posts not included in overall activity.

Page 5.5-8.5 Setup analyzation
Most active players:Sholanda, Tom Yabo, Charles Bronson
Moderately active: Tommy Calhoun, Lestat de Lioncourt
Least active: Rashid(Cited RP as reason for his role ideas), Sgt. Pepper(Gave basic opinions on setup), Max Jets(Noted that he did offer a roles list), Demitri, Pete Pendelman

Page 8.5-onward: Player analyzation/pressure vote discussion
Overall activity(in things of substance)

Most active: Charles, Elisha
Moderate activity:Kappy, Sholanda, Baxter
Least: Lestat(quickly moving up imo), Demitri, Thomas, Sidney, Rashid, Pepper, Max Jets, Pete

Players who have contributed in some meaningful way: Charles, Sholanda(helped greatly with roles list speculation), Tom Yabo(see Sholanda).

Players I think we should look into: Demitri, Rashid, Pepper, Pete, Baxter, Jordan, Sidney, Roland.

I agree with pressuring Sidney rather than Pepper Sidney Huffman

Lestat de Lioncourt

July 16th, 2013, 12:36 PM

Sidney Huffman

Pepper should still have some votes on him, his "analysis" was just...lazy

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 12:42 PM

Pepper will end up scum i'm pretty sure. However, existent pressure is best pressure.

Sidney Huffman

Uncle Kappy

July 16th, 2013, 01:13 PM

Sidney Huffman
Not forgetting baxter (also my computer overheated T.T)

Choo Choo. L-5 Be careful plox.

Martin Sugar

July 16th, 2013, 01:26 PM

Hi, hi.

Reading through now.

Max Jets

July 16th, 2013, 01:31 PM

Sidney Huffman We would be wasting our time if we didn't pressure people.

Uncle Kappy

July 16th, 2013, 01:31 PM

L-4.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 01:32 PM

Sidney Huffman We would be wasting our time if we didn't pressure people.

Thank you for enlightening us. Please add anything else.

Max Jets

July 16th, 2013, 01:32 PM

I don't think he can be hammered untill 24 hours have passed.

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 01:34 PM

I don't think he can be hammered untill 24 hours have passed.

Wow, you should be town leader

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 01:35 PM

Hey Elisha. If you are bored tonight I can try to entertain you. Just an offer.

Max Jets

July 16th, 2013, 01:36 PM

Wow, you should be town leader

Yeah, You are right!

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 01:37 PM

Yeah, You are right!

Hey guys, the Mayor revealed himself.

Max Jets

July 16th, 2013, 01:38 PM

Hey Elisha. If you are bored tonight I can try to entertain you. Just an offer.

What makes you think she wont have anything to do tonight?

Martin Sugar

July 16th, 2013, 01:38 PM

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 01:39 PM

What makes you think she wont have anything to do tonight?

I said if.
Max, try to be less sketchy. Cool? Cool.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 01:42 PM

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 01:44 PM

Hey Elisha. If you are bored tonight I can try to entertain you. Just an offer.

Depends on what kind of entertainment you have in mind.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 01:45 PM

Depends on what kind of entertainment you have in mind.

I thought I could read you some of my poetry. I'm a pretty romantic guy, I like to think.

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 01:47 PM

I dislike the Huffman wagon. Sure, it's for pressure, but it gives an easy excuse for scum to appear active when they're really just tossing their vote around and not scumhunting.

Here's a live one.

Tommy Calhoun

Ten points to anyone who can figure out the reason why.

I would vote him for the suggestion of lynching Charles because he had a small chance of being neutral or something.

Or because of this post

I don't know.
While it's true that that's a good way to gather information, I doubt we'll manage to achieve much with a couple of votes at this point.

It take 11 votes to lynch. As it's been pointed out, I doubt scum are dumb enough to try and pull a quickhammer d1. On the other hand, the voted player wouldn't start feeling pressured until... let's say L-3 or so, which might not happen until the day is almost over, and by then, we would've just lost a whole day with day while the scum had to do nothing but sit back, post a couple of random check-in posts and watch as we achieve nothing at all.

That said, I have no better suggestions at this point, other than trying to force the silent players (over 50% of the list) to say something.

Don't force me to use my dayvig skills d1.

-unvote

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 01:49 PM

I thought I could read you some of my poetry. I'm a pretty romantic guy, I like to think.

Sounds gay. And I'm not.

I'm a trap.

Dr Jordan Edilstein

July 16th, 2013, 01:51 PM

Doctor Badass is in the house. The train on Sidney seems reasonable, but this caught my eye...

Hey Elisha. If you are bored tonight I can try to entertain you. Just an offer.

Is this a soft Escort claim?

Then I see Elisha talking about how voting on the first day doesn't work, and refuses to vote Pepper...

It won't work as most imagine it because it simply doesn't on the first day. People aren't stupid enough to not answer which results in getting themselves lynched just through pressure, getting my point?

Also I'm not turning off invisibility mode because I have my browser open all day long even for long periods where I'm not actually on the computer. It's annoying if people think I am there even though I am actually away for like 50% of the time.

And then I see this...

I like this. I am content with pressuring Sidney.

Sidney Huffman

I want an analysis of some of the more active players here Sidney.

So she refuses to vote Pepper, but is more than willing to vote Sidney... What happened to it not working on this day?

Please enlighten me on this subject Elisha...

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 01:54 PM

Then I see Elisha talking about how voting on the first day doesn't work, and refuses to vote Pepper...

And then I see this...

So she refuses to vote Pepper, but is more than willing to vote Sidney... What happened to it not working on this day?

Please enlighten me on this subject Elisha...
It depends on what grounds you vote.

We pressure Sidney to talk more because his posts consisted nothing of worth.

The votes on Pepper were because they saw his posts as scummy or something and I didn't agree with that at all.

Can noone here read anymore?

Also:

It won't work as most imagine it because it simply doesn't on the first day.
Most people expect something useful from pressuring like they did earlier on day one. Pressuring Pepper wouldn't have gained much.

By pressuring Sidney we will find out what kind of playstyle he is going to continue.l

Dr Jordan Edilstein

July 16th, 2013, 01:54 PM

A wild Slaol appeared.

Elisha Wilkner

July 16th, 2013, 01:55 PM

A wild Slaol appeared.

idnrsting

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 01:57 PM

I now have what will be more legitimate internet, I think.

I would vote him for the suggestion of lynching Charles because he had a small chance of being neutral or something.

Or because of this post

I considered using Tommy's early vote on myself to earn the 10 points, but am not certain why Sugar would trust me so much at that point. I'd go with the latter post if anything.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 01:59 PM

Sounds gay. And I'm not.

I'm a trap.

Not gay, don't make it gay. I tend to wait until the 3rd date at least.

Tommy Calhoun

July 16th, 2013, 02:00 PM

Thomas, please.
I feel an urge of -suiciding anytime someone calls me Tommy.

Martin Sugar

July 16th, 2013, 02:01 PM

10 points to Elisha.

More votes on Thomas please.

Dr Jordan Edilstein

July 16th, 2013, 02:01 PM

It depends on what grounds you vote.

We pressure Sidney to talk more because his posts consisted nothing of worth.

The votes on Pepper were because they saw his posts as scummy or something and I didn't agree with that at all.

Can noone here read anymore?

Also:

Most people expect something useful from pressuring like they did earlier on day one. Pressuring Pepper wouldn't have gained much.

By pressuring Sidney we will find out what kind of playstyle he is going to continue.l

And this couldn't have worked on Pepper too?

And you "didn't agree with it"... is this because Pepper is in your Mafia?

Your opinions have been flip flopping all day.

I don't give a fuck about the early voting.

Also lol at the "turn off invisibility mode else scum bcuz hide"

go do some detective work

Yes, now I'm not, but it can happen, it could happen, it may happen.

And I suggest we pressure.

And yes, I can read... otherwise I wouldn't be able to know what I am typing. :)

Insults don't help with making you look town.

Charles Bronson

July 16th, 2013, 02:02 PM

Thomas, please.
I feel an urge of -suiciding anytime someone calls me Tommy.

Talk to Cryptonic about changing your name. Otherwise I will be calling you Tommy.

10 points to Elisha.

More votes on Thomas please.

Which post was the one you accuse Tommy for? Elisha listed 2.

Tommy Calhoun

July 16th, 2013, 02:03 PM

10 points to Elisha.

More votes on Thomas please.

So... your reason to vote me is that I voted Charles for spamming the forum, which deflects attention from the main topic and wastes people times who have to read a dozen, double posts with no content?

Solid argument. Please lynch me.