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ypmagic
June 30th, 2013, 05:57 PM
Day 1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqxsada-TQ8

With President Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation, the Slave Trade was made illegal and it was prohibited to use slaves in work without pay. However, most previous confederate states hated President Lincoln. Plantation work was falling apart without slaves, so illegal slave trade was necessary. The cotton plantation in South Carolina of a slave master household of Mr and Mrs. Douglas, worked slaves illegally. Sometimes, they were nice to give the slaves food. But now, Lincoln was assassinated and they thought it was free to have slaves in work. Later, they received word that officials from D.C. were coming to see how all plantations were in operation. This is the beginning of the story.


Role List

Slave Master
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Union Official
Union Official

Player List

Powerofdeath
Glip
CmG
Bunny
Sinclair
Banshis
Titus
TheDarkestLight
Orpz
Ika
Hypersniper
Poriomania
Dagaen

A note of reminder: Slaves have no night action, while the Slave Master can visit one person to roleblock a Union Official. The Union Officials will be able to persuade at night.

LET THE STORY OF THE SLAVE MASTER BEGIN!

Day will end at this (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7%2F02%2F2013+4%3A57%3A00+PM+GMT-8&x=4&y=2) time.

Link to setup is righhhhtt here (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20824-S-FM-The-Slave-Code)

Sinclair
June 30th, 2013, 06:02 PM
I feel this game is appropriate with the current happenings with Paula Deen.

Glip
June 30th, 2013, 06:03 PM
I thought the game was supposed to start with Night 1?

ypmagic
June 30th, 2013, 06:04 PM
I thought the game was supposed to start with Night 1?

Nope. It's a boring no-lynch day so you people can gather info. You have 48 hours. Go!

Sinclair
June 30th, 2013, 06:06 PM
Nope. It's a boring no-lynch day so you people can gather info. You have 48 hours. Go!

A 48 hour no lynch day... ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

Dagaen
June 30th, 2013, 06:07 PM
48h day with no lynch, now I really feel like slave xD

Glip
June 30th, 2013, 06:07 PM
When the host defines his own game as boring, something went wrong in the setup.

-vote skip day

Sinclair
June 30th, 2013, 06:08 PM
When the host defines his own game as boring, something went wrong in the setup.

-vote skip day

I second this.

-vote skip day

powerofdeath
June 30th, 2013, 06:08 PM
Lololol Im slave
48 hours lynch day lol waaat
recruit me!

powerofdeath
June 30th, 2013, 06:09 PM
-vote skip day
We should either do a rolecall or skip

ypmagic
June 30th, 2013, 06:11 PM
When the host defines his own game as boring, something went wrong in the setup.

Ain't all no-lynch day 1s boring?

IMAGINARY VOTE TALLY

Skip Day - powerofdeath, Glip, Sinclair

7 votes to skip

Dagaen
June 30th, 2013, 06:11 PM
Well, maybe we shouldn't skip just yet, but learn something about each other? Our only clues will be observing change in behaviour after converts, and converts will happen during next night. So maybe small talk isn't such a bad idea?

Saying that I'm going to sleep , see you in ~8h:D

Also, link to the setup in first post would be nice!

Glip
June 30th, 2013, 06:12 PM
Actually no point in skipping. Not like we'll have any more information tomorrow, we'll just have the ability to lynch and (most likely) two less slaves and two more free slaves.

Unless you guys just wanna keep skipping days until the union officials have recruited a full 6 of us, then lynch all the remaining losers?

Dagaen
June 30th, 2013, 06:12 PM
-vote skip day
We should either do a rolecall or skip

I'll give you a rolecall: everybody claims Slave;)

Sinclair
June 30th, 2013, 06:14 PM
Fine fine fine let's have a nice loooooooooooooong talk guys!

Hey PoD, I have a feeling you're not a slave. I think you're scum. I swear every game I'm in with you you're against me so you must be a Union Official.

Guys, PoD is a union official. Slave master, visit him!

ika
June 30th, 2013, 06:24 PM
vote skip

slave

Orpz
June 30th, 2013, 06:27 PM
wait wat we're rolecalling?

slave

yay!

Titus
June 30th, 2013, 06:28 PM
No lynch day means skip. No one will feel pressured and therefore slips are not likely to happen. We should lynch tomorrow. Watch for any sudden shifts and language changes.

skip

Orpz
June 30th, 2013, 06:29 PM
powerofdeath

I'm pretty sure this guy lives in the North East United States.

Sinclair
June 30th, 2013, 06:40 PM
powerofdeath

I'm pretty sure this guy lives in the North East United States.

I... definitely don't....

>_>
<_<

*changes location quick*

Funny, I just got back today from Boston :p

Banshis
June 30th, 2013, 06:42 PM
Hello everyone.

I claim........ wait for it........... almost there.......... Slave

I am guessing that is what everyone is going to claim. So 48 hours to gather info. This is going to be a very long game.

powerofdeath
June 30th, 2013, 06:45 PM
Lol orpz you stalker!
Im an ILLEGAL slave in the north east
Oh no if sinclair say is true then he is indeed union guy

powerofdeath
June 30th, 2013, 06:46 PM
I find it funny that orpz used to think i am a girl, now he know where i live

Orpz
June 30th, 2013, 06:47 PM
I find it funny that orpz used to think i am a girl, now he know where i live

You said it was 2AM where you lived in a past S-Fm when it was 11 PM for me :p

Orpz
June 30th, 2013, 06:49 PM
I... definitely don't....

>_>
<_<

*changes location quick*

Funny, I just got back today from Boston :p

....your avatar is also a white man
Sinclair

Banshis
June 30th, 2013, 06:50 PM
Yea I don't think we are going to get anywhere today.

skip

Orpz
June 30th, 2013, 06:54 PM
Yea I don't think we are going to get anywhere today.

skip

we're finding out where everyone lives.
then we determine whether they are union or confederates.

Titus
June 30th, 2013, 08:09 PM
we're finding out where everyone lives.
then we determine whether they are union or confederates.

In the past or in the present? I could go either way.

powerofdeath
June 30th, 2013, 08:15 PM
Will our skip in teal be counted? Or do we have to skip it the right way?
Also is it just the first day 48 hours or is it every days?

ypmagic
June 30th, 2013, 08:22 PM
Will our skip in teal be counted? Or do we have to skip it the right way?
Also is it just the first day 48 hours or is it every days?

I will count the teal skips. ALL days will be 48 hours, because there are no feedbacks in the night and not many night actions. Time is needed in order to gather information during the day.

powerofdeath
June 30th, 2013, 08:43 PM
I will count the teal skips. ALL days will be 48 hours, because there are no feedbacks in the night and not many night actions. Time is needed in order to gather information during the day.

What would happen if union guy visit slave master?

If its the other way around, union guy get roleblocked, correct? Does he know if he get roleblocked?
Does the slavemaster know he roleblocked him?

Also what would happen if union guy visited slave that are already freed?

What would happen if slave master visit free slaves? Or regular slaves?

powerofdeath
June 30th, 2013, 08:46 PM
The set up is a little confusing sorry xD

powerofdeath
June 30th, 2013, 09:00 PM
2 more vote to lynch a guy named Skip!
I think Skip is definitely godfather
Cmon town we need to lynch skip!!!

TheDarkestLight
June 30th, 2013, 09:02 PM
Hi guys. I'm the Slave Master.

No recruit no kill u got nuthin over me.

Orpz
June 30th, 2013, 09:15 PM
In the past or in the present? I could go either way.

Hmm...present, unless you lived in the US from 1860-1864, then your alignment will be based on where you lived then

I live in California, which iirc was a free state... I must be a Free Slave

Orpz
June 30th, 2013, 09:17 PM
These are my leads

Sinclair - Union Official
Powerofdeath - Union Official
Orpz - Free Slave
everyone else

Sinclair
June 30th, 2013, 09:24 PM
These are my leads

Sinclair - Union Official
Powerofdeath - Union Official
Orpz - Free Slave
everyone else

My list:

Orpz - Paula Deens personal lil' n*****.

Orpz
June 30th, 2013, 09:25 PM
My list:

Orpz - Paula Deens personal lil' n*****.

this is a correct read of my alignment and role

Sinclair
June 30th, 2013, 09:40 PM
this is a correct read of my alignment and role

SWEET.

Time for sleeps... if mastah lets me.

TheDarkestLight
June 30th, 2013, 09:52 PM
SWEET.

Time for sleeps... if mastah lets me.

I say no.

Titus
June 30th, 2013, 09:53 PM
Hmm...present, unless you lived in the US from 1860-1864, then your alignment will be based on where you lived then

I live in California, which iirc was a free state... I must be a Free Slave

Ok then I'm free as well. California rules! I need some sun... just a little less heat as it is dang hot here.

Orpz
June 30th, 2013, 11:03 PM
TDL thinks he's immune. I say we gather our cult and lynch him day 2.

ypmagic
July 1st, 2013, 12:24 AM
6 votes on skip.

powerofdeath
July 1st, 2013, 12:36 AM
Host answer mah questions?

Orpz
July 1st, 2013, 01:02 AM
Host answer mah questions?

Denied.

skip

Bunny
July 1st, 2013, 01:18 AM
hihihi everyone!!! i is hurrr!

ypmagic
July 1st, 2013, 01:22 AM
What would happen if union guy visit slave master?

If its the other way around, union guy get roleblocked, correct? Does he know if he get roleblocked?
Does the slavemaster know he roleblocked him?

Also what would happen if union guy visited slave that are already freed?

What would happen if slave master visit free slaves? Or regular slaves?

Nothing for all, because there are no feedbacks.

THE DAY HAS ENDED BY SKIP

Mr. and Mrs. Douglas grew more and more nervous. The Union Officials in their plantation were now investigating how the slaves were being treated and how they were brought in to the plantation. It was horror for them. But, they gave a big sigh as the clock called for sunset. They would be able to survive this day by the interrupting night.

Night 1

Night actions must be in at least 1 hour before the night ends.

Night will end at this (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7%2F02%2F2013+12%3A22+AM+GMT-8&x=-1884&y=-71) time.

ypmagic
July 2nd, 2013, 01:51 AM
Day 2

There were many sounds of horror last night. Mr. and Mrs. Douglas were missing from their beds, as reported by the Union Official. They were all lurking at night, never seeing each other directly. The slaves got more worried and worried each day and night as trouble was detected the last night. The slaves had trouble sleeping. Now, they were forced to pick cotton in the early dawn without any more rest from the disturbance of the night.


Role List

Slave Master
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Union Official
Union Official

Player List

Powerofdeath
Glip
CmG
Bunny
Sinclair
Banshis
Titus
TheDarkestLight
Orpz
Ika
Hypersniper
Poriomania
Dagaen

7

The day will end at this (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7%2F04%2F2013+5%3A50+PM+GMT%2B9&x=9&y=2) time.

Link to setup is here (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20824-S-FM-The-Slave-Code).

Bunny
July 2nd, 2013, 02:57 AM
herrrow, nothing happened to me last night

Banshis
July 2nd, 2013, 05:16 AM
Hello everyone.

Nothing happened to me last night.

Well no one is here yet...

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 05:29 AM
I'm surprised that so many people decided to skip!

Titus:

No lynch day means skip. No one will feel pressured and therefore slips are not likely to happen. We should lynch tomorrow. Watch for any sudden shifts and language changes.

How exactly you want to find "sudden shifts" and "language changes" when most people managed only to post few words, and some of them didn't post at all!

Why exactly you people wanted to skip? D1 was our most important day and you ruined it:/

Also: nothing happened to me tonight. But that's what everybody would claim anyway. I'm not happy with all of you skippers...

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 06:19 AM
Ok, I'm out for a good chunk of today but Daegan is right that we should lynch.

TheDarkestLight
July 2nd, 2013, 06:39 AM
Should I bother saying nothing happened to me?

Anyways my slaves I role-blocked Bunny last night.

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 06:40 AM
CHOO CHOO!
Bunny

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 06:42 AM
This is a bad game lol
No lead
Everyone have same feedback and role cept for scum
Random lynch town win, or scum win is our only options lol

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 06:49 AM
If I'm going to vote anybody it will be one of the skippers. Only Union benefits from such fast skip.

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 07:02 AM
Let the slave master start a train because if we let slaves start, they could be a free slave and start a train on someone they know that isnt on their team

Sinclair
July 2nd, 2013, 07:05 AM
Good morning ya'll!



Let the slave master start a train because if we let slaves start, they could be a free slave and start a train on someone they know that isnt on their team

Well if a free slave starts a train, how do they know who's on their team?

Does a free slave know who the union officials are?

----

Also nothing happened to me last night! I was jus' layin' in da field in my bed of cottin, ya'll.

Poriomania
July 2nd, 2013, 07:13 AM
Checking in. I'll post more after work.

Skipping was dumb yesterday.

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 07:16 AM
Good morning ya'll!



Well if a free slave starts a train, how do they know who's on their team?

Does a free slave know who the union officials are?

----

Also nothing happened to me last night! I was jus' layin' in da field in my bed of cottin, ya'll.

I think free slaves know who is the other free slaves but they dont know the union guys

ypmagic
July 2nd, 2013, 07:18 AM
I think free slaves know who is the other free slaves but they dont know the union guys

Correct.

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 07:38 AM
Guys who voted to skip: Glip, Sinclair, powerofdeath, ika, Titus, Banshis, Orpz. Glip at least wanted to discuss. Powerofdeath voting Bunny now.

Btw, Host, you should reset vote counter:P

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 07:40 AM
Some other questions.

Can suicide from Jester can be healed? Does it happen at the end of the night or is it insta-death, right after lynch?

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 07:41 AM
Oops, wrong FM:D Idk If I am allowed to edit it.

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 07:43 AM
LOL I was thinking wt... there is no jester.

Sinclair
July 2nd, 2013, 07:51 AM
Some other questions.

Can suicide from Jester can be healed? Does it happen at the end of the night or is it insta-death, right after lynch?

Haha I just did the same thing, except other way around :p

But I'm really not sure what to talk about today.

I'm not liking PoD's attitude.

But then again, I don't like his attitude every game....lol

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 07:57 AM
Poriomania

ika
July 2nd, 2013, 08:30 AM
hai theres no feedback in this game if you have forgoten.

anyway time to get it going powerofdeath i'll be back to read discussions. pod already starts random trains and asked questions aobut union officals hes the first

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 08:34 AM
powerofdeath

Pressure on skipper.

Banshis
July 2nd, 2013, 08:44 AM
PoD always seems to get suspicious on day 1. I kind of feel bad for him lol.

Powerofdeath

Hypersniper
July 2nd, 2013, 09:51 AM
Ello all I'm here finally diff time zones and such i will join the bw

Hypersniper
July 2nd, 2013, 09:54 AM
powerofdeath

ika
July 2nd, 2013, 09:55 AM
funny how nonw have any dicussion and just banwagon it. ooh well what really want to hear fom pod is why he asked those questions. its only reivent to a UO, also we need to figure out this host meta scince he handpicked. any suggestions?

ika
July 2nd, 2013, 09:59 AM
titus come and talk to me i need to argue with someone. we are gonna probally be arguing agina

Banshis
July 2nd, 2013, 10:00 AM
Well I'll be back in an hour since I have to cut my grass.
Then I can discuss with you :)

Otherwise have fun arguing with Titus.

ika
July 2nd, 2013, 10:16 AM
Well I'll be back in an hour since I have to cut my grass.
Then I can discuss with you :)

Otherwise have fun arguing with Titus.

Q_Q

this is gonna be uneventful

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 10:28 AM
Scum likely on PoD train. Gotta run again. Just highlighting the rate PoD got voted up.

ika
July 2nd, 2013, 10:30 AM
Scum likely on PoD train. Gotta run again. Just highlighting the rate PoD got voted up.

hmmm not very insightful. not our typical titus.....

Orpz
July 2nd, 2013, 10:59 AM
hmmm not very insightful. not our typical titus.....

Leave my fellow free slave alone!
It's as insightful as one can be with only the few posts so far.

Orpz
July 2nd, 2013, 11:02 AM
If you guys were Union Officials who would you have converted?


Glip

ika
July 2nd, 2013, 11:05 AM
If you guys were Union Officials who would you have converted?


Glip

reasons?

usally titus is more active is all i was saying. i dont have many post becasue theres nto much to talk about. becasue thers no feedback and everoyne is just going to lurkmode

Banshis
July 2nd, 2013, 11:09 AM
I am back!

As you said uneventful. Not much happened when I was gone.

Orpz
July 2nd, 2013, 11:09 AM
reasons?

usally titus is more active is all i was saying. i dont have many post becasue theres nto much to talk about. becasue thers no feedback and everoyne is just going to lurkmode

First to skip and I feel like a good chunk of people would have converted him n1. It's a bad reason but it's the best so far with what we have.

ika
July 2nd, 2013, 11:17 AM
First to skip and I feel like a good chunk of people would have converted him n1. It's a bad reason but it's the best so far with what we have.

well we should be getting at the union leader first should we not? this way we can stop them from growing. getting the slaves that are under the union would only help union leader. but i do see you reasoning behind it. what about the POD? though?

Orpz
July 2nd, 2013, 11:19 AM
well we should be getting at the union leader first should we not? this way we can stop them from growing. getting the slaves that are under the union would only help union leader. but i do see you reasoning behind it. what about the POD? though?

I have no idea how to find the Union Leaders. No leads and no one has been acting particularly Cult Leaderish so far :x
I don't see any real reason behind voting PoD except his troll train post and the fact that he lives in the old Union (good reason actually)

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 11:22 AM
Well, only Union benefitted for skipping so fast so I'm quite sure they are among skippers. PoD is good target imo, with this random lynching behavior.

We should wait for others to express their opinion. Skipping d1 was bad enough, let's not lynch too fast.

ika
July 2nd, 2013, 11:26 AM
Well, only Union benefitted for skipping so fast so I'm quite sure they are among skippers. PoD is good target imo, with this random lynching behavior.

We should wait for others to express their opinion. Skipping d1 was bad enough, let's not lynch too fast.

days are 48 hrs we got plenty of time. i will say random lynching is not way to go. usally pod is more active, i know he is hiding somewhere, i would likke to hear his reasoning on why he asked those questions though. to me a free salve has no need to know that info. does anyone have a tally of the skippers? i will admit i was part of it.

the ppl who vote skip that i account for

glip (said my orpz)
me (admit to it)

ika
July 2nd, 2013, 11:30 AM
ok i found all the votes to skip in order

glip
sinclair
POD
me
orpz
titus
Banshis
orpz

/discuss

Banshis
July 2nd, 2013, 11:33 AM
ok i found all the votes to skip in order

glip
sinclair
POD
me
orpz
titus
Banshis
orpz

/discuss

Well my first thought is that the union officials wouldn't want to start the skip train. So I am guessing Glip and Sinclair are both just slaves.

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 11:34 AM
I don't like Glip and Titus because they knew how un-beneficial for Town those skips are and yet they did it anyway.

Ika, what was your reasoning for skipping?

ika
July 2nd, 2013, 11:37 AM
I don't like Glip and Titus because they knew how un-beneficial for Town those skips are and yet they did it anyway.

Ika, what was your reasoning for skipping?

i did it becasue in the long run it will only help union officals. it was either gonna be ppl lurking the entire day and not posting becasue of no lynch. on no lynch i found it only helps the scums more. That was my plan for day 1 at least is sit there and not post becasue the free slaves only real weapon is the power of vote and without that on day one it helps only scums

ika
July 2nd, 2013, 11:38 AM
after re reading glips day one i want to ask this

can both union officals convert or can only one convert each night?

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 11:45 AM
Sorry, I was out. I did mention I'd be in and out all day. I have another meeting in two hours, which I will have to leave for that.

As for my posts not being very insightful, there isn't really much to analyze yet. Skipping did work for the town there. People aren't going to talk on a no lynch day. They have no pressure to talk.

Eventually, the town has to start lynching. It will all be random based off words. Today is a good day as any to start lynching, so we should try to find suspects. Those who rapidly sheeped ika are good suspects.

ika
July 2nd, 2013, 11:49 AM
Sorry, I was out. I did mention I'd be in and out all day. I have another meeting in two hours, which I will have to leave for that.

As for my posts not being very insightful, there isn't really much to analyze yet. Skipping did work for the town there. People aren't going to talk on a no lynch day. They have no pressure to talk.

Eventually, the town has to start lynching. It will all be random based off words. Today is a good day as any to start lynching, so we should try to find suspects. Those who rapidly sheeped ika are good suspects.

and what about POD himself?

i figure the sheepers are really just sheeps for the moment.

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 11:51 AM
Why sheep though? Sheeping doesn't give the town analysis and that's a problem in a setup with no feedback.

ika
July 2nd, 2013, 11:58 AM
Why sheep though? Sheeping doesn't give the town analysis and that's a problem in a setup with no feedback.

but looking back at the short day 1 POD asked some questions. i look at it as each role and see what do those questions benifit most and i see that it only favors union officals right now. i do agree that sheep can be scum related but if all we can go off is post analsis a majority of it will be just everyone sheeping around

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 12:02 PM
Ok, I have to go now. Expect more substance from me later.

ika
July 2nd, 2013, 12:26 PM
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ika

this is gonna be a game of lurkfest

CmG
July 2nd, 2013, 12:50 PM
Finaly i can post. Thanks for that day skip very contra productive.

I am a slave.

Not much to add.

Titus looks scummy would lynch that.

powerofdeath looks always scummy would lynch that.

Synclair asks questions which are explained in the setup, which is scummy as well. Would lynch that.

Bunny wont post much the whole game. A good lynch as well. Same goes for Banshis.


The rest can stay.

We should look for connections between 2 people today if they recruited 2 guys and lynch accordingly.


Gonna cast my vote later though. Pressuring doesn't do anything in this game anyways. It's lynch or not to lynch.

Hypersniper
July 2nd, 2013, 01:10 PM
I agree with Cmg in some ways

that pod and maybe Titus be lynched for the reasons he had said

Sinclair I'm not sure but maybe just maybe lynch

Banshis I don't agree he has been posting quite a bit throughout the game

Bunny a good random lynch target since she wont contribute much

And yes all are fine For now........(insert epic outro music here)

CmG
July 2nd, 2013, 01:15 PM
Oh man. Didn't even know you were in this game. Lol

Are you European or why didn't you post on Day 1 as i?

Hypersniper
July 2nd, 2013, 01:18 PM
I'm British and American sure be american

Orpz
July 2nd, 2013, 01:28 PM
Poriomania better be Town. He's our specialist for behaviorial analysis. Because he's the only one who wants to use that rather than meta :D

CmG
July 2nd, 2013, 01:29 PM
I don't even know who Poriomania is.

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 01:30 PM
Well I've never seen Poriomania in action. Looks like he is always afk;]

CmG
July 2nd, 2013, 01:34 PM
Or lets try a new strategy! Men vs Women.

LYNCH ALL CHICKS!!

Orpz
July 2nd, 2013, 01:36 PM
Or lets try a new strategy! Men vs Women.

LYNCH ALL CHICKS!!

ok
Titus

Hypersniper
July 2nd, 2013, 01:38 PM
Ronald mc Donald's is climbing in yo windows snatching up people up and Titus babys

Hypersniper
July 2nd, 2013, 01:40 PM
I ate your donuts Cmg all your donuts

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 01:43 PM
Since I recenty learnt that Titus is apparently a woman I don't trust anybody...

So who claims chick?:P

CmG
July 2nd, 2013, 01:47 PM
I am German i don't eat donuts.


powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 02:18 PM
Lol
L-3
Cool xD

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 02:21 PM
Hmm looking at role list, at first titus seem to be a good recruit target
But then I thought, it would be too obvious and people could easily random her.
If I was union, i was go for someone who isnt obvious, like Hypersniper.

Lol ika i feel loved <3
xD

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 02:38 PM
If you guys were Union Officials who would you have converted?
Glip

Actually guys, I think it would be good think to make everybody answer such question. And then ask another. And another. If we don't have feedbacks, we should make some.

Some people already asked this question. I'd probably target more experienced players, but not complete lurkers. Maybe guys with 2-3 posts.

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 02:39 PM
*answered this question.

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 02:43 PM
YYAM VALOY EYAPO XBAOY BWAHDUY MAPA BA X

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 02:46 PM
I'll answer the question.

Obviously, I'd convert ika. We butt heads so much I'm pretty sure he'd accuse me as being scummy for having the name Titus.

I agree with Daegan, everyone should answer who they would convert.

I'd also like to think I do behavioral analysis rather than meta. Blah.

Orpz
July 2nd, 2013, 02:52 PM
I'd have converted Glip

I'd also like to think I do behavioral analysis rather than meta. Blah.
Analyze someone :D

ypmagic
July 2nd, 2013, 03:16 PM
That simple mistake.... I'll be sure to open up the thread if votes overlap. This won't happen again. I'll reset the vote counter the next day also. Thanks for that.

Poriomania
July 2nd, 2013, 03:17 PM
Quick post -

Analyzing "who would you convert?" is simple WIFOM.

Titus, are you naked voting me for reactions?

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 03:47 PM
@Poriomania, no one admits to naked voting for reactions. That's silly. The target wouldn't feel any pressure at all unless of course we're in the random voting stage.

@Orpz, Sure I'll analyze someone. The post I am analyzing is included below.

I'll start with CmG. His language says "lynch that" while throwing around random accusations. His posts are internal distancing himself. He also says that pressuring doesn't do anything. That's mistaken. I think CmG's post is an excellent example of a scum post. Look at the majority of the posts. We say lynch him. CmG says lynch that, like the target is somehow less. Dehumanizing (even in a fantasy game) can make it easier to lynch a target you know is wrong.

Also, he totally discounts pressure.

CmG


Finaly i can post. Thanks for that day skip very contra productive.

I am a slave.

Not much to add.

Titus looks scummy would lynch that.

powerofdeath looks always scummy would lynch that.

Synclair asks questions which are explained in the setup, which is scummy as well. Would lynch that.

Bunny wont post much the whole game. A good lynch as well. Same goes for Banshis.


The rest can stay.

We should look for connections between 2 people today if they recruited 2 guys and lynch accordingly.


Gonna cast my vote later though. Pressuring doesn't do anything in this game anyways. It's lynch or not to lynch.

Bunny
July 2nd, 2013, 03:52 PM
i think the people who are trying to lynch today most likely aren't scum because scum wont want to accidentally lynch their own. I think scum will either not vote or vote someone completely different than everyone else to try and have a no lynch day. Personally, I think we should lynch everyday.

powerofdeath

Sinclair
July 2nd, 2013, 04:00 PM
Woah woah woah you think I'm scummy because I missed something in the set up? Fuck off.


Anyway I'm at work so ill tey to keep up.

powerofdeath

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 04:01 PM
Guys, just sheeping someone at random is worse than skipping. A random vote right now is VERY likely to hit a townie.

Bunny
July 2nd, 2013, 04:04 PM
Guys, just sheeping someone at random is worse than skipping. A random vote right now is VERY likely to hit a townie.

we need to get a lynch today. Titus you are extremely high on my scumdar.

CmG
July 2nd, 2013, 04:05 PM
Lol titus i just gave my comment about what i saw. There is basicly NOTHING we can work with. Pressure votes in a game with 1 town power role does nothing.


I would recruit lurkers and try to lynch vets. Because they are the guys who make or break the game. Because they can't be killed at night.
It's just another herpderp cult game. I would recruit, Sinclair, Degaen, Glip, Bunny and Rochsis.


Also i consider going suiciding tonight because this setup is retarded and might take ages. Skipping Day chat is always a scumtell even on mafiascum.

CmG
July 2nd, 2013, 04:07 PM
Titus

ypmagic
July 2nd, 2013, 04:07 PM
Also i consider going suiciding tonight because this setup is retarded.

Suicide was intended to be part of the game ^^

CmG
July 2nd, 2013, 04:16 PM
Oh, good to know!

Banshis
July 2nd, 2013, 04:20 PM
Ok we don't need to get a lynch of yet.



He was at L-1. We have 48 hours.

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 04:27 PM
Please don't just vote, explain why do you exactly vote PoD.

Btw, last PoD message was this:


YYAM VALOY EYAPO XBAOY BWAHDUY MAPA BA X

Anybody care to decipher?

Bunny
July 2nd, 2013, 04:35 PM
[unvote] titus, thedarkestlight, powerofdeath, glip, sinclair. you guys are my suspicious people to look into currently. titus' posts just keep getting scummier and scummier. titus

Bunny
July 2nd, 2013, 04:35 PM
lol whoopsie.

Orpz
July 2nd, 2013, 04:38 PM
Anybody care to decipher?

Probably a code Union Officials used during the Civil War.

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 04:46 PM
Lololol

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 04:48 PM
Day 1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqxsada-TQ8

With President Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation, the Slave Trade was made illegal and it was prohibited to use slaves in work without pay. However, most previous confederate states hated President Lincoln. Plantation work was falling apart without slaves, so illegal slave trade was necessary. The cotton plantation in South Carolina of a slave master household of Mr and Mrs. Douglas, worked slaves illegally. Sometimes, they were nice to give the slaves food. But now, Lincoln was assassinated and they thought it was free to have slaves in work. Later, they received word that officials from D.C. were coming to see how all plantations were in operation. This is the beginning of the story.


Role List

Slave Master
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Slave
Union Official
Union Official

Player List

Powerofdeath
Glip
CmG
Bunny
Sinclair
Banshis
Titus
TheDarkestLight
Orpz
Ika
Hypersniper
Poriomania
Dagaen

A note of reminder: Slaves have no night action, while the Slave Master can visit one person to roleblock a Union Official. The Union Officials will be able to persuade at night.

LET THE STORY OF THE SLAVE MASTER BEGIN!

Day will end at this (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7%2F02%2F2013+4%3A57%3A00+PM+GMT-8&x=4&y=2) time.

Link to setup is righhhhtt here (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20824-S-FM-The-Slave-Code)


Problems?

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 04:54 PM
titus' posts just keep getting scummier and scummier. titus

My posts keep getting scummier and scummier, yet I had no post since I fosed CmG.

Guys play to your win condition. We should lynch the person whose post suggest they are the scummiest. That's CmG. Other than FoS CmG, I haven't done much but that causes Bunny to panic and vote me. Why?

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 04:55 PM
Anyway guys, this set up baaaad
Ima get lynched because of ika the shepard

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 05:00 PM
Best case scenario: both union tried to recruit eachother n1, we lynch union guy d1, rb union guy n2, lynch union guy d2

Worst case scenarios: both union recruit successfully 4vs9, we mislynch 4v8, successful recruit 6v6 mislynch 6v5, and recruit successfull 8v3, mislynch, 8v2, recruit successfully, 10v0

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 05:05 PM
Recruit me! Ill let you supersign in my next SFM

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 05:05 PM
There's too many players here. The idea was ok, but the setup needs tweaking.

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 05:06 PM
orpz

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 05:07 PM
There's too many players here. The idea was ok, but the setup needs tweaking.

IMO not enough players
32 slaves
1 slave master
2 union guys
72 hours day
72 hours night

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 05:08 PM
Orpz did you see my post analyzing CmG?

Bunny
July 2nd, 2013, 05:11 PM
My posts keep getting scummier and scummier, yet I had no post since I fosed CmG.

Guys play to your win condition. We should lynch the person whose post suggest they are the scummiest. That's CmG. Other than FoS CmG, I haven't done much but that causes Bunny to panic and vote me. Why?

you trying to derail lynching because you're concerned about lynching one of your scum friends. your reaction to what cmg said to you just screams scum! to me, cmg is being pro town. I believe he is a slave more than i believe you are.

TheDarkestLight
July 2nd, 2013, 05:21 PM
So my slaves. Has my cotton been picked yet? I expect 50 bales each by the end of the hour or else I will whip you all so hard your children are born with whip lash marks on their backs.

PoD and his trolling. Seems legit. He does this when he gets roles he doesn't like I think.

CmG
July 2nd, 2013, 05:29 PM
PoD is surely not a slave trader and i doubt that he was recruited last night. He claimed the only town power role yesterday. Which might award him a block from the real guy. Pretty dumb play for a scum right?

I think that this might be one of the reasoning on the votes on him from some guys on that train.

Glip
July 2nd, 2013, 05:32 PM
If I were a Union Official, my first recruit would be Dagaen, because /). Also he seems like a pretty cool dude and I'm interested to see how he plays.

Next I would recruit CmG, because I happen to know that he is a good player. I also happen to know that when he IS town, he tends to say "screw you guys, I ain't gunna help you find scum. Do your own damn job," or something along those lines. Especially early on.

Next I would probably recruit powerofdeath, because kitty.

No point in guessing what I would do any further than that, because if I were Union Official, I would certainly have gotten myself lynched by then. My typical cult play is to convert first the people I'm most chummy with, then the people I think most likely to win. Anything after that is just grabbing at straws.

People I would NOT recruit: Hypersniper, poriomania, Banshis, Sinclair. I don't know them, so they're wild cards. Also, newer people are more likely to get power roles, which would make one of these few more likely to be the other Union Official or the Slave Master.

So far in this game, no one knows who anyone is. Union Officials don't get feedback if they succesfully recruited. Free slaves only know who each other are, not the union officials.

Do both Union Officials recruit each night? Do the slaves freed by each official form separate groups that know each other, or will slaves freed by one union official know who's been freed by the other as well?

Is the 3 max conversions per official, or total between the two?

Anyway, this means that we can't really use who is getting sheeped/not sheeping as clues yet, since pretty much anyone is free game for the lynch for everyone. Town knows no allies, scum have a high chance of lynching town rather than themselves.

Cross-checking my previous list of possible power roles with the list of people who voted to skip and reading over their posts again, I think Banshis is rather suspect. He was rather quick to claim Slave yesterday, despite no one really calling for a mass role claim, and despite the vast uselessness of such an endeavour. He tries to dissuade any further scumhunting by saying that probably everyone will claim Slave, and he doesn't think we'll get anywhere, so he votes to skip. Finally he was the penultimate vote to skip. Not the hammer, but he was inviting the opportunity for someone to hammer. He wanted the skip day to happen, he didn't want anyone to try and scumhunt, and he didn't want to be called out for hammering the skip vote.

Banshis

Glip
July 2nd, 2013, 05:33 PM
Powerofdeath is acting too trolly. He's just a regular Slave trying to have fun with his role. If he were a Union Official, he'd be more cautious about it.

Glip
July 2nd, 2013, 05:34 PM
CmG is also suspect for not being his usual town self.

Banshis
July 2nd, 2013, 05:42 PM
If I were a Union Official, my first recruit would be Dagaen, because /). Also he seems like a pretty cool dude and I'm interested to see how he plays.

Next I would recruit CmG, because I happen to know that he is a good player. I also happen to know that when he IS town, he tends to say "screw you guys, I ain't gunna help you find scum. Do your own damn job," or something along those lines. Especially early on.

Next I would probably recruit powerofdeath, because kitty.

No point in guessing what I would do any further than that, because if I were Union Official, I would certainly have gotten myself lynched by then. My typical cult play is to convert first the people I'm most chummy with, then the people I think most likely to win. Anything after that is just grabbing at straws.

People I would NOT recruit: Hypersniper, poriomania, Banshis, Sinclair. I don't know them, so they're wild cards. Also, newer people are more likely to get power roles, which would make one of these few more likely to be the other Union Official or the Slave Master.

So far in this game, no one knows who anyone is. Union Officials don't get feedback if they succesfully recruited. Free slaves only know who each other are, not the union officials.

Do both Union Officials recruit each night? Do the slaves freed by each official form separate groups that know each other, or will slaves freed by one union official know who's been freed by the other as well?

Is the 3 max conversions per official, or total between the two?

Anyway, this means that we can't really use who is getting sheeped/not sheeping as clues yet, since pretty much anyone is free game for the lynch for everyone. Town knows no allies, scum have a high chance of lynching town rather than themselves.

Cross-checking my previous list of possible power roles with the list of people who voted to skip and reading over their posts again, I think Banshis is rather suspect. He was rather quick to claim Slave yesterday, despite no one really calling for a mass role claim, and despite the vast uselessness of such an endeavour. He tries to dissuade any further scumhunting by saying that probably everyone will claim Slave, and he doesn't think we'll get anywhere, so he votes to skip. Finally he was the penultimate vote to skip. Not the hammer, but he was inviting the opportunity for someone to hammer. He wanted the skip day to happen, he didn't want anyone to try and scumhunt, and he didn't want to be called out for hammering the skip vote.

Banshis

I wasn't the one who hammered the skip vote. That was orpz.

Glip
July 2nd, 2013, 05:45 PM
I wasn't the one who hammered the skip vote. That was orpz.

Indeed you weren't the one who hammered the skip vote. That's kinda the point, which I explained in my last paragraph. Are you even reading?

TheDarkestLight
July 2nd, 2013, 05:47 PM
PoD is surely not a slave trader and i doubt that he was recruited last night. He claimed the only town power role yesterday. Which might award him a block from the real guy. Pretty dumb play for a scum right?

I think that this might be one of the reasoning on the votes on him from some guys on that train.


Lololol Im slave
48 hours lynch day lol waaat
recruit me!


Hi guys. I'm the Slave Master.

No recruit no kill u got nuthin over me.

Get your game straight.

TheDarkestLight
July 2nd, 2013, 05:48 PM
37 users browsing this thread. 4 members and 33 guests.

Holy fuck.

The guests...

Banshis
July 2nd, 2013, 05:50 PM
If I was to recruit someone this is how it would be...

TDL would be my first choice. I only would choose him first because he is gutsy on the stuff he claims. Him saying he is slave master would deter me away from voting him, but if another Slave master came up then he would be one to pick.

Poriomania would be my second choice since this whole setup is based off being able to tell scum from the town with logic. We have no leads ever so behavioral analysis is what the union would go for so they can use him.

Titus would not be a good choice to take n1. I say that because Titus would be too obvious a target to take. Most likely taken n2 or n3.

PoD wouldn't be a good choice to take on n1 since he usually messes around when he is a role he doesn't like or if he is scum.

CmG I don't see being a good target.

Glip I doubt is a union official even though Glip was the one who started the skip train. It would be too obvious. Most likely Glip wasn't converted n1.

Orpz I don't know either. He seems like he could possibly be a union official on the way he acts.

Bunny only got one post in on day 1 so most likely she wasn't converted. They wouldn't want a lurker.

Those are my thoughts right now.

Banshis
July 2nd, 2013, 05:53 PM
Indeed you weren't the one who hammered the skip vote. That's kinda the point, which I explained in my last paragraph. Are you even reading?

Ok sorry I just read it over quickly. Yea I see what happened there. I didn't realize how many skip votes there were already. Usually I won't try to open up a hammer. That was my mistake.

Banshis
July 2nd, 2013, 05:55 PM
As for claiming slave I just did that as kind of a joke because everyone else would have just claimed slave.

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 06:04 PM
If I were a Union Official, my first recruit would be Dagaen, because /). Also he seems like a pretty cool dude and I'm interested to see how he plays.


Hehe, that made me happy, thx for those kind words.

I'm still curious why did you decided to skip so fast;) You are making quality posts here, so you are obviously treating this setup seriously. Why skip?

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 06:15 PM
What make you think i dont like being a citizen? Its the set up lol

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 06:15 PM
I been citizen few times before and i didnt mess around or troll

Glip
July 2nd, 2013, 06:16 PM
Hehe, that made me happy, thx for those kind words.

I'm still curious why did you decided to skip so fast;) You are making quality posts here, so you are obviously treating this setup seriously. Why skip?

Honestly? Because at the time, I had no patience for a 48 hour long troll day. 24 hours I could have dealt with, but not 48. Plus there's a certain infamous 72 hour troll day that happened recently that hasn't exactly improved troll day's reputation around these parts. And Titus had a good point; with no lynch, there's no pressure, nothing to help coax out a scum slip.

And now I can use the info from who sheeped on the skip with me to come up with some flimsy reason to put pressure on someone.

Although in hindsight, it would have been a real nice idea to let the troll day last a while and see who got caught up trying to RP. There's has been a trend in the past of those who RP ending up being scum.

powerofdeath
July 2nd, 2013, 06:17 PM
PoD is surely not a slave trader and i doubt that he was recruited last night. He claimed the only town power role yesterday. Which might award him a block from the real guy. Pretty dumb play for a scum right?

I think that this might be one of the reasoning on the votes on him from some guys on that train.

How am i town power? cmg

Dagaen
July 2nd, 2013, 06:21 PM
Thx Glip for such detailed answer.

I'm going to sleep now, please make remaining people answer today's question ("who would you recruit if you were Union?") before hammering!

Sinclair
July 2nd, 2013, 07:55 PM
Thx Glip for such detailed answer.

I'm going to sleep now, please make remaining people answer today's question ("who would you recruit if you were Union?") before hammering!

If I was union I'd recruit the most popular people here.

I'd recruit Titus, you, CmG, TDL, Porio and Orpz. There can be 6 right? :p I don't feel like looking at the setup or rules atm.

I'm not sure what to contribute besides I honestly feel 48 hours days are a bit too long :p But whatever! It stirs up drama and FM + drama = fun.

Orpz
July 2nd, 2013, 08:01 PM
Orpz did you see my post analyzing CmG?

I did. I felt like your main point was how he chooses to say "lynch that" rather than "lynch him"....

Poriomania
July 2nd, 2013, 08:21 PM
I have reliable internet acces.

Reading the thread, providing some opinions.

CmG
July 2nd, 2013, 08:46 PM
Lololol Im slave
48 hours lynch day lol waaat
recruit me!


Hi guys. I'm the Slave Master.

No recruit no kill u got nuthin over me.


How am i town power? cmg

You aren't i gave you credit for something you didn't claim. It was thedarkestlight not you. Which makes the whole town opinion i had about false. You could have figured this out by yourself if you would have read the 2 posts above you.

You are not paying much attention do you?

Orpz
July 2nd, 2013, 09:15 PM
I have reliable internet acces.

Reading the thread, providing some opinions.

it's been an hour

Poriomania

Poriomania
July 2nd, 2013, 09:17 PM
Let's do this player by player.

powerofdeath: "Host answer my questions!" is telling to me. Pro-town mindset, as scum probably won't care about the questions that much. Other than that I really can't get much from his posts except active lurking. Need more content.

Glip: Dislike the "no point in skipping" even though he was a contributing factor to the skip. What did you hope to accomplish there, Glip?

I like Glip's #149, and it shows that he's actively trying to move the game along (though I've been burned by this in the past). Willing to judge as a leaning town read for now.

CmG: Dislike his #99 - he puts calls out several people as scummy without actually providing reasoning and without voting any of them. Pressuring does accomplish something.

@CmG: Reasoning for those post 99 call outs?

Bunny: Good reasoning on lynching everyday and a sentiment I support. Fine reasoning for Titus vote. Leaning town.

Sinclair: Why second the skip day with no reasoning?

I really can't get much from Sinclair's posts. He seems to be in the same boat as pod right now - not moving the thread along, but not really doing anything.

Banshis: Why don't you think you'd get much out of Day 1?

Hate the backpedal "I feel bad for him" then vote POD. #75 indicates a "sit back and watch" style which is a way of avoiding the spotlights. Provides some content on #89, which is... eh. #155 is okay but I'm not a fan of the whole "who would YOU pick" thing. Leaning scum for backpedal.

Titus: Dislike the "skipping did work". If it wasn't for reactions, then why did you vote me? Her thoughts on CmG are like 50% real analysis and 50% mudsling, so iffy on that. Sheeping isn't worse than skipping - a lynch provides an alignment, reactions/interactions/posts, etc. I don't really like to "Guys play to your win condition". I can't explain it, but it feels strange to me for some reason.

More importantly, this really doesn't feel like town!Titus, and I suspect that most of the votes on her are based on that. I'll wait to see what else she has up her sleeve, but I'm not a huge fan right now. Random thought - 144 feels a bit self-conscious.

TDL: No real comment on claim. I swear TDL's playstyle is probably the most erratic I've seen and is highly reminiscent of someone else I play with on my main site. Can't really read him, for what I can tell.

Orpz: I....think I like his voting for two players then skipping? I'm not sure. Like his thoughts on Glip and actually makes me a bit paranoid. I like his prodding and goading, feels like he's actually trying to do something. Leaning town.

ika: Actually trying to move the game forward, active. Then drops off. I like his posts overall - tries to provoke discussion, scumhunt. Leaning town.

Hypersniper: Barns CmG and joins the POD wagon. Rest of posts are just active lurking. Leaning scum.

Dagaen: Scumhunts in #51, like his 56, mostly like his posts in general. Leaning town.

My thoughts for the moment. I'll try to post a town/scum list later.

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 09:19 PM
I did. I felt like your main point was how he chooses to say "lynch that" rather than "lynch him"....

That was a large point. Think, if you're doing something you dislike or somehow view as scummy you'd subconsciously want to disassociate yourself from that. Also, implicitly saying your target is somehow less than a person (using the inanimate "that" rather than "him/her") suggests that CmG is distancing himself.

Out for the night probably. (Not like in that other game).

Long post Poriomania. I'm surprised that this doesn't feel like town me but whatever.

Poriomania
July 2nd, 2013, 09:26 PM
Mmm.

I'm waiting for some more content from you to determine alignment. Not sure now.

Let's see.
Hypersniper

Titus
July 2nd, 2013, 11:10 PM
Poriomania, you were right, I was voting you for your reactions. My point was if you are random voting someone (RVS), then telling them negates the purpose. They won't feel the pressure of possibly being lynched.

Bunny
July 3rd, 2013, 04:20 AM
sinclair

i think that his explanation of who he would convert seems made up and is just a fake answer to not draw attention to himself. No one would recruit people they think are popular in an fm because thats not how mafia works. He seems to be trying to fly under the radar and is against 48 hour days when the lynch is towns only chance of winning. He says he doesnt know what to contribute, but it seems like he's just trying to say the bare minimum. It seems like he is trying to buddy with a majority of the players, and thats what scum usually tries to do.

ika
July 3rd, 2013, 06:50 AM
/me get up and sees no one is around....

:(

Dagaen
July 3rd, 2013, 09:40 AM
15 hours to go, we should start thinking who to lynch. From people voted so far, in my lynching order:

powerofdeath - behaves really weird. I don't think that this confirms he is Slave - I was once in a game when he basically gave up while being Executioner. I can see him giving up as Official/Free Slave, because...well, those roles also aren't that much exciting.

Sinclair - Well, not really contributing, trying to stay in shadow. There's no reason for any town to stay in shadow. Also - skipper.

Hypersniper - Lurking and lurking. Suspicious.

CmG - Titus' made a good point on his accusation post, Poriomania seems to confirm it. I don't have that much experience playing with him, so for now I'd only observe him.

Banshis - Skipper, but contributed. For now I'd leave him alone.

Poriomania - After such detailed analysis I believe he is town.

Sinclair
July 3rd, 2013, 10:25 AM
15 hours to go, we should start thinking who to lynch. From people voted so far, in my lynching order:

powerofdeath - behaves really weird. I don't think that this confirms he is Slave - I was once in a game when he basically gave up while being Executioner. I can see him giving up as Official/Free Slave, because...well, those roles also aren't that much exciting.

Sinclair - Well, not really contributing, trying to stay in shadow. There's no reason for any town to stay in shadow. Also - skipper.

Hypersniper - Lurking and lurking. Suspicious.

CmG - Titus' made a good point on his accusation post, Poriomania seems to confirm it. I don't have that much experience playing with him, so for now I'd only observe him.

Banshis - Skipper, but contributed. For now I'd leave him alone.

Poriomania - After such detailed analysis I believe he is town.

Regarding me, I worked damn hard yesterday at work so I couldn't really stay up too late and read everything and get acquainted with the happenings in this thread. I'm up now so I'll be reading a bit. Also, since when does skipping make you scum? I didn't think that a random lynch would be good because we'd most likely end up lynching a slave and we don't want to lose one on day one. That wouldn't be good. There's no reason for that.

Sinclair
July 3rd, 2013, 10:27 AM
sinclair

i think that his explanation of who he would convert seems made up and is just a fake answer to not draw attention to himself. No one would recruit people they think are popular in an fm because thats not how mafia works. He seems to be trying to fly under the radar and is against 48 hour days when the lynch is towns only chance of winning. He says he doesnt know what to contribute, but it seems like he's just trying to say the bare minimum. It seems like he is trying to buddy with a majority of the players, and thats what scum usually tries to do.

Urm, it is made up... It's made up because I, well, made up a list in my head... 0_o That is what made up is right?

And I explained in my previous post why I wasn't posting yesterday. I was at work and I had a shitton of stuff to do, which in turn made me a zombie when I got home. I'm not saying the bare minimum, I literally have no idea what to contribute. There's not enough posts by everyone to make a solid read (most reads will be half-assed since not everyone is posting a lot) and how am I trying to buddy with people if I have barely posted? Can you please point out where I am trying to buddy with people? Thanks.

Sinclair
July 3rd, 2013, 10:45 AM
Poriomania

Random vote, no reason why she voted. No one else was talking about Porio.


Scum likely on PoD train. Gotta run again. Just highlighting the rate PoD got voted up.

Not necessarily, people voted PoD up because he was trolling around. But honestly, that's how he always is.


Well, only Union benefitted for skipping so fast so I'm quite sure they are among skippers. PoD is good target imo, with this random lynching behavior.

We should wait for others to express their opinion. Skipping d1 was bad enough, let's not lynch too fast.

Not true. I wanted to skip because, like I said, I don't feel like random lynching someone when we have no reads is not a great idea. When we see behavioral change the next day (today) is when we can start lynching.


i did it becasue in the long run it will only help union officals. it was either gonna be ppl lurking the entire day and not posting becasue of no lynch. on no lynch i found it only helps the scums more. That was my plan for day 1 at least is sit there and not post becasue the free slaves only real weapon is the power of vote and without that on day one it helps only scums

So you skipped because it will help union officials? You either just made a big slip (that no one caught) or you worded that horribly.


Sorry, I was out. I did mention I'd be in and out all day. I have another meeting in two hours, which I will have to leave for that.

As for my posts not being very insightful, there isn't really much to analyze yet. Skipping did work for the town there. People aren't going to talk on a no lynch day. They have no pressure to talk.

Eventually, the town has to start lynching. It will all be random based off words. Today is a good day as any to start lynching, so we should try to find suspects. Those who rapidly sheeped ika are good suspects.

True. I think lynching today and every day after would be a good idea since we've so many people and so little scum.


Finaly i can post. Thanks for that day skip very contra productive.

I am a slave.

Not much to add.

Titus looks scummy would lynch that.

powerofdeath looks always scummy would lynch that.

Synclair asks questions which are explained in the setup, which is scummy as well. Would lynch that.

Bunny wont post much the whole game. A good lynch as well. Same goes for Banshis.


The rest can stay.

We should look for connections between 2 people today if they recruited 2 guys and lynch accordingly.


Gonna cast my vote later though. Pressuring doesn't do anything in this game anyways. It's lynch or not to lynch.

Like Titus says, why are you saying "would lynch that" as if the person is lesser? And you're saying they "look" scummy. What do you mean by "looks" scummy? You throw around 5 accusations with basically no background whatsoever. And for the reasoning to vote me (which you spelled me name wrong...), what? I just didn't know. PoD asked that same question right before I did.

Right now you're on the top of my scum list.


Ronald mc Donald's is climbing in yo windows snatching up people up and Titus babys


I ate your donuts Cmg all your donuts

Hyper is just trolling around. Possibly scum? No reason to troll and not contribute anything.


we need to get a lynch today. Titus you are extremely high on my scumdar.

Now don't worry, I'm not trying to buddy up... but why is Titus high on your scumdar? All she's done so far is contribute and state her opinions on CmG.


Please don't just vote, explain why do you exactly vote PoD.

Btw, last PoD message was this:



Anybody care to decipher?

I tried my best but I couldn't decipher that. It's either a troll message or he's using clementines cipher from the previous game we were in.


[unvote] titus, thedarkestlight, powerofdeath, glip, sinclair. you guys are my suspicious people to look into currently. titus' posts just keep getting scummier and scummier. titus

Why are we the suspicious people? Reasoning please! And again, why is Titus getting scummier and scummier? She is after all just analyzing people.


orpz

Random vote. Bunny, didn't you say that people who vote others that aren't currently on a lynch train is scummy? What do you think of his random vote on Orpz?

Sinclair
July 3rd, 2013, 10:46 AM
CmG

He's currently highest on my scum list. Claims slave for no reason, no one asked him to. He also is throwing around random accusations for no reasons.

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 11:15 AM
Ahh just got back and read through the posts porio I'm not always around I do need to sleep since I'm from Britain so I can't get much content when most if you are American and you are on this from 11pm Brit time to about 2am Brit time when I'm on fm. Dagean I'm not sure how I'm lurking reading posts and seeing what people say before I post about a min or 2 later is lurking okkk... I dident kniw that was lurking to you.

Dagaen
July 3rd, 2013, 11:22 AM
I agree with Cmg in some ways

that pod and maybe Titus be lynched for the reasons he had said

Sinclair I'm not sure but maybe just maybe lynch

Banshis I don't agree he has been posting quite a bit throughout the game

Bunny a good random lynch target since she wont contribute much

And yes all are fine For now........(insert epic outro music here)

This is your omly "quality" post in this entire thread and it's still not very contributing.


Hypersniper, please answer following question. If you were Union Official, who would you recruit and why?

Titus
July 3rd, 2013, 11:25 AM
My list

Scummy
CmG - Distancing himself, seems to FoS people at random while pretending it's not
Hypersniper - Sheeping, seems to be a parrot of CmG

Null to Scum
Bunny - Null to scum read, seems to be jumping but providing some analysis. I could be wrong on her here.
Banshis - I feel like he's buddying me
Daegan - He doesn't stand out much at all to me which is worrying

True Neutral Reads
Powerofdeath - Trolling, not seeing much to read beyond that... suspicious he was voted up so fast (disagree with Sinclair)
Glip - Leading the town, or at least attempting to

Likely Town
Orpz - Came up with the questions about who people would convert, questioning rather than merely accepting analysis
Sinclair - Contributing significant analysis
Poriomania - Seems unfazed my pressure and contributes walls of analysis



Outside of list
ika - I need more and I usually read ika wrong.

CmG
July 3rd, 2013, 11:35 AM
^
Did you ever realise that English is not my mother tongue? Just curious.

Titus
July 3rd, 2013, 11:42 AM
^
Did you ever realise that English is not my mother tongue? Just curious.

No. What is your mother tongue? I would obviously factor that in. I start from the unwritten assumption that English is the native language of the players.

CmG
July 3rd, 2013, 11:52 AM
I am German...

CmG
July 3rd, 2013, 11:55 AM
I think The recruits from yesterday vote on the same guy. Just an educated guess. All they can do in this setup. :/

Titus
July 3rd, 2013, 12:01 PM
I was hoping for French. Still, I'm going to see if I can brush up on how the German pronouns work.

I figured the Union Officials would have to recruit the same guy. Do I have that wrong?

ika
July 3rd, 2013, 12:02 PM
My list

Outside of list
ika - I need more and I usually read ika wrong.

That made me laugh so hard right now. How about this titus ask me something and i will answer.

Also to answer dagan, i would of chose someone like titus or pormania becasue of their analzing abilites

ika
July 3rd, 2013, 12:04 PM
I was hoping for French. Still, I'm going to see if I can brush up on how the German pronouns work.

I figured the Union Officials would have to recruit the same guy. Do I have that wrong?

i think thats wrong, i think they can recuit whoever but the officals and free slaves dont knwo who is who technacly, the only ppl who will know each other are the free slaves

Titus
July 3rd, 2013, 12:05 PM
That made me laugh so hard right now. How about this titus ask me something and i will answer.

Also to answer dagan, i would of chose someone like titus or pormania becasue of their analzing abilites

I would gain more by just watching you analyze right now than a directed question. So I'll try something more open ended. Do you have any solid slave or union official reads?

I do like your willingness to correct me though.

CmG
July 3rd, 2013, 12:05 PM
I was hoping for French. Still, I'm going to see if I can brush up on how the German pronouns work.

I figured the Union Officials would have to recruit the same guy. Do I have that wrong?

Wont help you much. You are pretty weird. Where you good at math at school? Just curious.

Titus
July 3rd, 2013, 12:09 PM
Wont help you much. You are pretty weird. Where you good at math at school? Just curious.

I was alright at math (wouldn't it be called maths in Europe?). It's been far too many years since I had an actual math class though. It was basic t-tests in statistics class. Still, my thoughts are disorganized at points.

Now that I've answered... why were you curious?

Titus
July 3rd, 2013, 12:10 PM
Oh and why am I weird?

CmG
July 3rd, 2013, 12:11 PM
I was wondering where the over analysing is comming from. That's all.

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 12:12 PM
Who would I recruit as a union official.

Porio because he is usually said to be town and no one would suspect him

Orpz for the same reason because he is considers not scummy at this moment

You deagan because you seem good at deception same as Titus

Ika cause ika is pro

ika
July 3rd, 2013, 12:14 PM
ok lets look at the vote count

CmG (3 [L-4]):
Titus, powerofdeath, Sinclair
Poriomania (1 [L-6]):
Orpz
powerofdeath (3 [L-4]):
ika, Dagaen, Hypersniper
Sinclair (1 [L-6]):
Bunny
Banshis (1 [L-6]):
Glip
Hypersniper (1 [L-6]):
Poriomania

everyone has gone everywhere with this voing..... i wasnt to say everyone who has independent votes right now are just doing whever and are still slaves anyone the cmg and pod trains are what i want to look at. i posted the first vote and had a HUGE train come on. i need to see who sheeped fater then others on that that might direct us to free slaves. the free slaves will probally just try to rush a lynch and vote together. i find it odd that dagen comes and makes a few post yet he donest unvote. hypersnipper is lurking on this thread right now and its hard to figure him out becasue hes so new. sinclair seems to have completely ignored the first day about pod wanting the rolecall. i would like to hear more from sinclair personally

sinclair

also i want to bring up that the host said he handpicked so we can try to host meta the people who are probally union workers.

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 12:16 PM
Oh I'm on my iPod because my Internet on my comp is not working

TheDarkestLight
July 3rd, 2013, 12:21 PM
My list

Scummy
CmG - Distancing himself, seems to FoS people at random while pretending it's not
Hypersniper - Sheeping, seems to be a parrot of CmG

Null to Scum
Bunny - Null to scum read, seems to be jumping but providing some analysis. I could be wrong on her here.
Banshis - I feel like he's buddying me
Daegan - He doesn't stand out much at all to me which is worrying

True Neutral Reads
Powerofdeath - Trolling, not seeing much to read beyond that... suspicious he was voted up so fast (disagree with Sinclair)
Glip - Leading the town, or at least attempting to

Likely Town
Orpz - Came up with the questions about who people would convert, questioning rather than merely accepting analysis
Sinclair - Contributing significant analysis
Poriomania - Seems unfazed my pressure and contributes walls of analysis



Outside of list
ika - I need more and I usually read ika wrong.

Where am I?

Titus
July 3rd, 2013, 12:31 PM
Where am I?

Umm Mars evidently. :S Obviously, I didn't see a lot from you.

Titus
July 3rd, 2013, 12:32 PM
I was wondering where the over analysing is comming from. That's all.

It's not overanalyzing to look at the way someone talks.

Thoughts become beliefs. Beliefs become speech. Speech becomes Actions. Actions create character.

Someone with different motivations should naturally speak differently.

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 12:37 PM
Ok i will try to contribute more my scum list

SCUMMY
Cmg yes yes i was as you say parroting him but after a long think i have took what all of you said and yes he is random fos on people

ALMOST SCUMMY
Pod trolling and not really doing much to help

NOT SURE ABOUT
Bunny not contributing much not really sure
Ika same as bunny but has posted a bit more
Banshis im really not sure what to think about him seems more scummy then town could be wrong
Glip Leaning more towards town for me but again could be wrong
TDL not seen much from him so i cant put him answerer

Mostly town
Titus providing significant info and analysis
Porio same as Titus
Sinclair giving a lot of analysis i can relate with

CmG
July 3rd, 2013, 12:41 PM
Hypersniper

Every post of him is another waggon to someone else while not providing anything new.

Titus
July 3rd, 2013, 12:42 PM
Wow. These last two posts are very unsettling. :O

Hypersniper does a near 180. CmG with a fast fos of someone whose opinion was aligned with him. Am I wrong to suspect bussing here by one or the other?

CmG
July 3rd, 2013, 12:44 PM
Yup you are because it makes no sense.

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 12:44 PM
Re: S-FM 92: The Slave Code
-vote Hypersniper


Every post of him is another waggon to someone else while not providing anything new.

ok because i was thinking about what i think and such your tryiung to tack pressure of yourself onto me ok
unvote

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 12:45 PM
Cmg

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 12:46 PM
Hypersniper does a near 180.
i dont get what you mean a near 180

Sinclair
July 3rd, 2013, 12:49 PM
ok lets look at the vote count

CmG (3 [L-4]):
Titus, powerofdeath, Sinclair
Poriomania (1 [L-6]):
Orpz
powerofdeath (3 [L-4]):
ika, Dagaen, Hypersniper
Sinclair (1 [L-6]):
Bunny
Banshis (1 [L-6]):
Glip
Hypersniper (1 [L-6]):
Poriomania

everyone has gone everywhere with this voing..... i wasnt to say everyone who has independent votes right now are just doing whever and are still slaves anyone the cmg and pod trains are what i want to look at. i posted the first vote and had a HUGE train come on. i need to see who sheeped fater then others on that that might direct us to free slaves. the free slaves will probally just try to rush a lynch and vote together. i find it odd that dagen comes and makes a few post yet he donest unvote. hypersnipper is lurking on this thread right now and its hard to figure him out becasue hes so new. sinclair seems to have completely ignored the first day about pod wanting the rolecall. i would like to hear more from sinclair personally

sinclair

also i want to bring up that the host said he handpicked so we can try to host meta the people who are probally union workers.

I completely ignored the first day about pod wanting the rolecall? I actually didn't see anything anywhere about pod wanting a rolecall. What else do you want to hear from me? And your thought on "free slaves will probally just try to rush a lynch and vote together." isn't very true. There is only 1 free slave today (IIRC, they can only change 1 slave a night). I voted CmG because of what I said in my post. You can feel free to go back and read it.

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 12:49 PM
Orpz your thoughts on these last posts

Titus
July 3rd, 2013, 12:50 PM
i dont get what you mean a near 180

You don't need to unvote to change your vote.

A "180" is where you suddenly change everything you're believing. It's also called an "about face".

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 12:51 PM
hey ika your thoughts on these last posts

Dagaen
July 3rd, 2013, 12:52 PM
Ok, I still don't like PoD's behavior but we won't lynch him today anyway. Sinclair gained some points in my book and some people seem to trust him. Next on my list is Sniper, then CmG.

For now:

Hypersniper

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 12:53 PM
oh ok i get it so cmg is voting me because i stopped "believing" what he said

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 12:55 PM
Ok, I still don't like PoD's behavior but we won't lynch him today anyway. Sinclair gained some points in my book and some people seem to trust him. Next on my list is Sniper, then CmG.

For now:

-vote Hypersniper

reason you are wanting to vote out all the people who seem scummy and creating a list of who your voting and why me

Dagaen
July 3rd, 2013, 12:55 PM
Btw, Sniper, in you #201 you didn't mention me.

ika
July 3rd, 2013, 12:56 PM
my thoughts? you did indeed pull a 180 you said you would recrut me and then say i am scum? ya.....

i am considering the fac taht you might be a new slave but also do to host making handpicks will make me think about it. i will hammer him if needed but i still want to hear from pod. and sinclair how aobut you give some post analis aobu others scince you dont seem to have work right now

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 12:57 PM
but i also would like to say lynch me if you want it wont help anyone town loses slave union loses a convert target its a lose lose situation

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 12:59 PM
Ok i will try to contribute more my scum list

SCUMMY
Cmg yes yes i was as you say parroting him but after a long think i have took what all of you said and yes he is random fos on people

ALMOST SCUMMY
Pod trolling and not really doing much to help

NOT SURE ABOUT
Bunny not contributing much not really sure
Ika same as bunny but has posted a bit more
Banshis im really not sure what to think about him seems more scummy then town could be wrong
Glip Leaning more towards town for me but again could be wrong
TDL not seen much from him so i cant put him answerer
Deagan providing some good analysis but don't like how she is creating a list of who is to vote next

Mostly town
Titus providing significant info and analysis
Porio same as Titus
Sinclair giving a lot of analysis i can relate with

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 01:01 PM
my thoughts? you did indeed pull a 180 you said you would recrut me and then say i am scum? ya.....

i am considering the fac taht you might be a new slave but also do to host making handpicks will make me think about it. i will hammer him if needed but i still want to hear from pod. and sinclair how aobut you give some post analis aobu others scince you dont seem to have work right now

Ika i n ever said you are scummy i said im noit sur about you

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 01:02 PM
lol to rephrase that i never said that your scum i said im not sure about you

ika
July 3rd, 2013, 01:03 PM
hmmm. very well but it doesnt change the fact you made a 180

powerofdeath
July 3rd, 2013, 01:05 PM
Aww im l-7?

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 01:07 PM
yes i made a 180 because i read all the posts from the start and thought about what i posted etc ... so thats why i 180 if you were wondering

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 01:08 PM
YO POD stop trolling and contribute

powerofdeath
July 3rd, 2013, 01:11 PM
hypersniper
Youre pain in the ass, it would benefit the town that you get lynched, town or scum.

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 01:17 PM
-vote hypersniper

Youre pain in the ass, it would benefit the town that you get lynched, town or scum.

whoa whoa calm down pod lynching for personal reasons because i said contribute and stop trolling well excuse me for trying to help

Titus
July 3rd, 2013, 01:18 PM
PoD, be careful with that line of logic. Some were using that as grounds to lynch you.

powerofdeath
July 3rd, 2013, 01:19 PM
Lol

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 01:28 PM
well its 3 till im, lynched so unless u appel to whats right its a lose lose stuation

Titus
July 3rd, 2013, 01:29 PM
Hyper, your text talk made that post incomprehensible.

Dagaen
July 3rd, 2013, 01:49 PM
I find it funny that Sinper claimed British and yet he sounds worse than me.

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 01:53 PM
Why where are u from and btw I'm on a iPod do you know how hard it is to type cirrectly on this thing

ika
July 3rd, 2013, 01:54 PM
Know what i dont like right now is how dagen is just sheep voting everyone

Dagaen

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 01:55 PM
And deagan you still haven't sad why you have voted me

ika
July 3rd, 2013, 01:58 PM
And deagan you still haven't sad why you have voted me

Hypersniper (4 [L-3]):
powerofdeath, Dagaen, CmG, Poriomania

you were saying....

Dagaen
July 3rd, 2013, 02:04 PM
Well, what others said about him and his scummy behaviour.

Plus: he seems like really afraid of dying. He threatens us using phrases like "lose-lose" situation , appealing to both Union and Confederacy. Right now Town is not really that screwed, he still have the chance of winning whatever he is. Yet I feel desperation in here. Perhaps he is only Free Slave in here or maybe even Union Official.

Anyway, I've already posted my lynch-list and Sniper was on 3rd position, right after PoD and Sinclair. Sinclair gained some town points, PoD won't be lynched at all today. So Sniper is next and he did nothing to make me believe him.

Phew, hopefully I did my job justifying that vote.

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 02:05 PM
I want to know why he is voting me porio just wants to put pressure on me he had not been back tondo ok at posts Pod just is using personal lynch Cmg is voting because he don't like how I voted him

Banshis
July 3rd, 2013, 02:06 PM
If I'm going to vote anybody it will be one of the skippers. Only Union benefits from such fast skip.


ok i found all the votes to skip in order

glip
sinclair
POD
me
orpz
titus
Banshis
orpz

/discuss

Yet you want to vote on Hypersniper.
You sheeped on the PoD train and Hypersniper isn't your first choice on who you want to lynch.
You seem to sheep a lot of votes. If you believe Hypersniper is a union then please tell us why.

Dagaen
July 3rd, 2013, 02:07 PM
I want to know why he is voting me porio just wants to put pressure on me he had not been back tondo ok at posts Pod just is using personal lynch Cmg is voting because he don't like how I voted him

Please use those:

,
.

Dagaen
July 3rd, 2013, 02:09 PM
Banshis: I just did. I'd lynch PoD but I was only voter left:/

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 02:09 PM
Well I don't like how your making a lynch list that is pretty scummy

ika
July 3rd, 2013, 02:10 PM
Banshis: I just did. I'd lynch PoD but I was only voter left:/

but i was the one who started the train...

you jsut sheeped with me to pod on the train.

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 02:11 PM
And none if you think Cmg is scummy

ika
July 3rd, 2013, 02:12 PM
darkest light if you ever seem to come around mind giving some imput?

Hypersniper
July 3rd, 2013, 02:13 PM
My list of scumybpeoe Cmg for no reason I'd lynch that on people
And deagan because of here lynch list

Orpz
July 3rd, 2013, 02:15 PM
Porio is a good lynch today

Banshis
July 3rd, 2013, 02:15 PM
@ Ika- Dagaen seems to sheep you on everything.

You votes PoD- Dagaen votes PoD

You vote Sinclair- Dagaen doesn't vote, but puts Sinclair in his Lynch List

You vote Hypersniper- Dagaen votes Hypersniper

Sinclair
July 3rd, 2013, 02:16 PM
We need a lynch today.

hypersniper

He seems very random and is going back and forth. And since we're not going to vote CmG today (apparently) lets just get this guy then. He isn't really contributing much and he (to me) seems pro-union.

Titus
July 3rd, 2013, 02:17 PM
I'm not voting Hyper. I think he's just a total impressionable newbie. Again, you're all sheeping CmG who is one of the scummiest players here.

Banshis
July 3rd, 2013, 02:18 PM
@ Ika- Dagaen seems to sheep you on everything.

You votes PoD- Dagaen votes PoD

You vote Sinclair- Dagaen doesn't vote, but puts Sinclair in his Lynch List

You Start Suspecting Hypersniper- Dagaen votes Hypersniper

Sorry changed that. I see you didn't vote Hypersniper, but you did start suspecting him.