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FM Ackerman
June 15th, 2013, 03:34 PM
Earle was really a corrupt journalist? Lol wut?

FM Buchwalter
June 15th, 2013, 04:58 PM
Earle was really a corrupt journalist? Lol wut?

Yeah. I do not find it hard to believe, as no other neutrals had really shown themselves. Just sad that he was able to get out of the little Soma episode, and even sadder that he got me lynched of course.

FM Buchwalter
June 15th, 2013, 05:02 PM
I most however say, I have not read the day chats fully since I died.

So why was Earle lynched? Just because people did not believe he was replaced?

Everyone knew he was a (Corrupt) Journalist, so why waste a lynch on him? He did not have a night action that could cause Town harm, and lynching anyone else would have been a possible Mafia/Savage.

FM Cajetan
June 15th, 2013, 06:22 PM
I think they thought he was a Savage

FM Donnelly
June 15th, 2013, 06:43 PM
I think they thought he was a Savage

I don't blame them. I knew he was a corrupt journalist, but I thought the savages might have thought he was town and tried to recruit him, but ended up with a regular savage. So I'm not surprised that he started as a corrupt journalist, but I am a bit surprised that he is still a corrupt journalist.

FM Buchwalter
June 16th, 2013, 02:11 AM
I don't blame them. I knew he was a corrupt journalist, but I thought the savages might have thought he was town and tried to recruit him, but ended up with a regular savage. So I'm not surprised that he started as a corrupt journalist, but I am a bit surprised that he is still a corrupt journalist.

If Savages had even thought about it a little, they would know he was at least a Journalist. So yeah they could have recruited him, but maybe it does not work like this when he is a Corrupt Journalist?

What happen if Savage Godfather recruit a Corrupt Journalist "as is"?

FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 03:26 AM
He will become a Savage.
If you -recruit an epsilon, they become a savage.

FM Buchwalter
June 16th, 2013, 07:22 AM
He will become a Savage.

Then that is why he was not recruited to the Savages. It would have been way too easy for Town and Mafia to figure that he had been recruited if the interviews stopped.

I guess this also explain why they all lynched him then?

FM Ferengi
June 16th, 2013, 09:46 AM
What happen if Savage Godfather recruit a Corrupt Journalist "as is"?

FM Bishop is correct: He will become a Savage.

FM Cafarelli
June 16th, 2013, 10:22 AM
now the question: why the hell did you include 2 corrupt journalists

FM Donnelly
June 16th, 2013, 10:24 AM
Then that is why he was not recruited to the Savages. It would have been way too easy for Town and Mafia to figure that he had been recruited if the interviews stopped.

I guess this also explain why they all lynched him then?

Well he initially claimed journalist to get you lynched. I figured after that they believed him and were going to recruit him. So when there was no interview one night, I assumed that was the reason. But I guess he just decided to troll and not do an interview that night.

FM Donnelly
June 16th, 2013, 10:26 AM
now the question: why the hell did you include 2 corrupt journalists

Because clementine.

But seriously. This did not surprise me at all. I told everyone several times there was no amnesiac or student for sure which already narrowed the benigns down. And this is something most people wouldn't expect, so I figured clem would do it. Especially since she had already thrown in two escorts and two drug dealers. If it wouldn't have been completely imbalanced, I bet she'd have thrown in a second SGF too!

FM Earle
June 16th, 2013, 10:38 AM
Not the first time having 2 corrupt journalist.

FM Bishop
June 16th, 2013, 12:12 PM
Check out MFM8. 2 Corrupt Journalist.
Most of the guys here seem to be too close minded about setups in general.

FM Cafarelli
June 16th, 2013, 12:15 PM
i don't understand the sense of this
i think it would be much more interesting if there was a student or jester or something

FM Ferengi
June 16th, 2013, 12:47 PM
I think students are really swingy and the corrupt journalists can already turn into jesters due to blackmail interactions. I think in this specific setup it's more interesting to have the corrupt journalists since there is a ton of potential for a savage journalist or for the savages to recruit the corrupt journalist thinking he is a regular journalist especially after seeing the first one flip corrupt...

There are many more ways that 2 corrupt journalists are more interesting (and balanced) in this setup than any other epsilon combinations.

FM Galletta
June 22nd, 2013, 12:45 PM
I most however say, I have not read the day chats fully since I died.

So why was Earle lynched? Just because people did not believe he was replaced?

Everyone knew he was a (Corrupt) Journalist, so why waste a lynch on him? He did not have a night action that could cause Town harm, and lynching anyone else would have been a possible Mafia/Savage.

i started the lynch on earle for a few reasons
1) most of town had just stupidly sheeped galloways lynch on green, it was the only way i could derail another town lynch
2) to see who would vote on him and who wouldnt. this is what led me to know kalou was scum, unfortunately we werent able to get kalou lynched that day
3) earle and ryan formed a neutral voting block that would gain power as numbers dwindled. i would have preferred ryan to go first, but that wasnt possible at the time as it would require all of town and some scum voting him.

FM Kalou
June 22nd, 2013, 01:28 PM
i started the lynch on earle for a few reasons
1) most of town had just stupidly sheeped galloways lynch on green, it was the only way i could derail another town lynch
2) to see who would vote on him and who wouldnt. this is what led me to know kalou was scum, unfortunately we werent able to get kalou lynched that day
3) earle and ryan formed a neutral voting block that would gain power as numbers dwindled. i would have preferred ryan to go first, but that wasnt possible at the time as it would require all of town and some scum voting him.
you didnt have a reason to think i was scum.
i was protown till i saved fontaines ass

FM Galletta
June 22nd, 2013, 01:38 PM
you didnt have a reason to think i was scum.
i was protown till i saved fontaines ass

which was incredibly stupid, but yes i did suspect you and tried to lynch you after you tried to derail the earle lynch. go check it yourself.

FM Galletta
June 22nd, 2013, 02:04 PM
you didnt have a reason to think i was scum.
i was protown till i saved fontaines ass

im such a nice guy i went and found the links for you

i derail lynch on kelso
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20875-Day-10?p=335566&viewfull=1#post335566
you make your first scum slip by calling kelso maf instead of scum
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20875-Day-10?p=335578&viewfull=1#post335578
i pressure you and you make up a stupid excuse
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20875-Day-10?p=335635&viewfull=1#post335635
i realize earle hasnt been converted and you and rose are selling out earle
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20875-Day-10?p=335703&viewfull=1#post335703
i try to get you killed
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20875-Day-10?p=335733&viewfull=1#post335733
i realize im not gonna get you lynched so settle for earle
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20875-Day-10?p=335957&viewfull=1#post335957
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20875-Day-10?p=335961&viewfull=1#post335961

i was right about you fontaine and rose. only mistake i made was thinking rose was the sgf. even without a mason enforcer you werent able to make good conversion choices. you just lurked. so keep patting yourself on the back saying you were protown, the rest of the players know you are bush league.

FM Kalou
June 22nd, 2013, 02:23 PM
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20875-Day-10?p=335683&viewfull=1#post335683

you had fontaine as mafia gf. it was fos, sure, but not with a definitive reasoning. at that point in the game, everyones just fosing everyone.

and your posts dont quite make sense to the links

and me hunting mafia, from a town perspective, its was better to eliminate the kpn. we had no leads on the savages. just guesswork.