Night 9

[FM Ferengi]

Commence.

[FM Leonardo]

LOL

[FM Leonardo]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lovhvwFchM1qi3vlco1_500.gif

[FM Leonardo]

Oh, by the way, Ackerman is the witch. Or he wants us to think he is, anyway.

[FM Attila]

I am going to be lynched tomorrow. I claimed Doctor to Parker and Lichtmann was Doc. This is the end of the road for me.
There is no other mason and Parker has no idea what is what anymore. There is no hope for me anymore because Earle is going to visit Parker and Parker is going to out me.


If we wished to we could Kill Earle tonight and blackmail Parker into keeping silent about my claim and then kill him the next night but I am fairly sure that will lead to our demise. I cannot see any way out of dying.. the only thing we can do I believe is buss me.

[FM Leonardo]

Oh, and I'm pretty sure Green is the savage godfather.

[FM Leonardo]

I am going to be lynched tomorrow. I claimed Doctor to Parker and Lichtmann was Doc. This is the end of the road for me.
There is no other mason and Parker has no idea what is what anymore. There is no hope for me anymore because Earle is going to visit Parker and Parker is going to out me.


If we wished to we could Kill Earle tonight and blackmail Parker into keeping silent about my claim and then kill him the next night but I am fairly sure that will lead to our demise. I cannot see any way out of dying.. the only thing we can do I believe is buss me.

Or we can just kill Parker.

[FM Attila]

But the article would get released anyways and Parker is outting me tonight...

[FM Leonardo]

But the article would get released anyways and Parker is outting me tonight...

You are assuming that Earle was online and decided to listen to Mayor. Which may be the case. But also may not be the case.

[FM Attila]

FM Ackerman - Witch
FM Leary - Savage
FM Green - Savage GF
FM Earle - Savage Journalist
FM Fontaine - Savage
FM Donnelly - Blackmailor
FM Galloway - Drug Dealer
FM Mendez - Godfather
FM Kalou - Delta
FM Kelso - Delta
FM Mason - Escort
FM Parker - Mayor
FM Rose - Delta
FM Ryan - Delta
FM Chapman - Delta
FM Galletta - Delta







Godfather
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
Savage Godfather
Savage Journalist
Savage ???
Savage ???
[Hidden Epsilon]
[Mayor]
[Escort]
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
[Witch]





This is what I am thinking the role list and players look like.

[FM Leonardo]

By the way, now that Lichtmann is doctor, town will know he was telling the truth about getting witched feedback, which means Ackerman is lying and is probably going to be lynched tomorrow. So that should buy you at least a day, Galloway. Especially if we kill mayor.

[FM Leonardo]

FM Ackerman - Witch
FM Leary - Savage
FM Green - Savage GF
FM Earle - Savage Journalist
FM Fontaine - Savage
FM Donnelly - Blackmailor
FM Galloway - Drug Dealer
FM Mendez - Godfather
FM Kalou - Delta
FM Kelso - Delta
FM Mason - Escort
FM Parker - Mayor
FM Rose - Delta
FM Ryan - Delta
FM Chapman - Delta
FM Galletta - Delta







Godfather
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
Savage Godfather
Savage Journalist
Savage ???
Savage ???
[Hidden Epsilon]
[Mayor]
[Escort]
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
[Witch]





This is what I am thinking the role list and players look like.

You didn't place anyone as an Epsilon. I think it's probably Earle as the corrupt journalist. Otherwise I think the list looks pretty good. Maybe throw in Ryan/Rose at the 4th savage slot instead of Earle.

[FM Attila]

You didn't place anyone as an Epsilon. I think it's probably Earle as the corrupt journalist. Otherwise I think the list looks pretty good. Maybe throw in Ryan/Rose at the 4th savage slot instead of Earle.

Whoops. Knew I forgot something. I cannot buy that Savage would just leave Earle alone. He is practically completely trusted by everyone and that makes him prime target for them.

If I had to choose someone for the neutral slot I think it would be Galletta or Kelso.

[FM Leonardo]

Whoops. Knew I forgot something. I cannot buy that Savage would just leave Earle alone. He is practically completely trusted by everyone and that makes him prime target for them.

If I had to choose someone for the neutral slot I think it would be Galletta or Kelso.

They may have already had full membership though. Plus we apparently still have an enforcer left (unless mayor was lying to fool the savages) which means they could have been targetting earle every night to prevent that.

[FM Attila]

They may have already had full membership though. Plus we apparently still have an enforcer left (unless mayor was lying to fool the savages) which means they could have been targetting earle every night to prevent that.

When I claimed Doc to him privately he told he there was no other mason

[FM Leonardo]

When I claimed Doc to him privately he told he there was no other mason

Fascinating. That means he lied about getting a second soma.

I guess there could be two doctors... But they probably won't buy that.

[FM Attila]

FM Ackerman - Witch
FM Leary - Savage
FM Green - Savage GF
FM Earle - Savage Journalist/Journalist
FM Fontaine - Savage
FM Donnelly - Blackmailor
FM Galloway - Drug Dealer
FM Mendez - Godfather
FM Kalou - Delta
FM Kelso - Delta/Neutral Benign
FM Mason - Escort
FM Parker - Mayor
FM Rose - Delta
FM Ryan - Delta/Savage
FM Chapman - Delta
FM Galletta - Delta/Neutral Benign







Godfather
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
Savage Godfather
Savage Journalist
Savage ???
Savage ???
[Hidden Epsilon]
[Mayor]
[Escort]
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
[Witch]





This is what I am thinking the role list and players look like.

Updated.

[FM Attila]

Earle also commented on being corrupt journalist several times and hasn't made any hint of a want to go after savages. That suggests he has a huge potenial at being Savage Journalist.

[FM Ferengi]

Just as a heads up, I can't guarantee being around until right before the night action deadline. The earlier you get your proposed blackmail note approved, the better.

[FM Leonardo]

Just as a heads up, I can't guarantee being around until right before the night action deadline. The earlier you get your proposed blackmail note approved, the better.

If only there were two other hosts...

[FM Attila]

Kill
○ Parker
Drug Deal
○ Witched {Mason}
Blackmail
○ ????


What do you think?

[FM Leonardo]

Kill
○ Parker
Drug Deal
○ Witched {Mason}
Blackmail
○ ????


What do you think?

I obviously agree with the kill. I'm torn on the drug. On the one hand, I like the idea of it. It could be used to clear me of being roleblocked if they try to use that to accuse me tomorrow. But if someone else claims witched, they could also take it as "mafia drugged you because they knew you were blocking donnelly, lynch the bastard".

Also I think Mason might be witched anyway, and if Mason gets two witched feedbacks, that will almost certainly reflect badly on me. I think we might be better off just to trust the witch on this one. Worst case scenario is that Mason doesn't get witched, and on day 10 you (Galloway) can pretend to be blackmailed, which will both confirm you as non mafia and confirm me as non-blackmailer (because you will later claim that you were bmed tonight and waited until the second day to do the blackmail).

No idea about the blackmail. Obviously I should attempt one. No idea what it should be, though. I really can't think of much that would benefit us at this point.

[FM Attila]

We can always give out fake feedbacks such as roleblocked to Leary or Chapman or something

[FM Artaxerxes]

So you claimed Doc to Parker? That's going to be awkward. We could kill him and gamble that he wont reveal you in the article. The only way to keep you alive as I see it is to Kill Earle which will prevent the article from going out. If he's a savage, it's to our benefit. If not, it still prevents Parker from outing you as a fake doctor.

Then we can blackmail Parker into something that will either prevent him from posting anything reasonable. i.e. Cleansed OR make it so he can only show suspicion against one player.
Written like - You may only show suspicion and vote against FM Ryan or FM Leary. You may not make reads, analyze or post opinions or claims from any other players. You are the only one holding town together, revealing the blackmail will almost confirm the loss. Not doing it on the first day will cause the delta's to no lynch.

The problem is this play just protects you. We are going to be outnumbered by Savages. We need to either lynch a savage tomorrow or kill one tonight. Killing Earle is our best bet because Savages may have targeted him and it can clear you with the right blackmail. That's why I think we need Parker still alive. If Parker dies, it will basically be just us vs Savages with delta fodder in between.

Also, Mason is not the Escort. He is definitely just a Delturd. Kalou is still the escort, notice how today he was all about lynching Mason, and as soon as Mason claims Escort there was 0 pressure from him. I don't think Kalou will target me or Donnelly so it should be fine. Galloway could be targeted, but it's unlikely.

@Galloway did the mayor reveal any other information to you? Like who he suspects or his reads? Don't reveal the code and Donnelly and I can't use this to our benefit...but it could be used well.

[FM Artaxerxes]

We shouldn't assume that Earle won't visit the Mayor.

link (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20732-Day-8?p=332658#post332658)
Mayor will be interviewed tonight. Take it as your last will.

Also, another ploy Galloway is for you to claim student of Lichtmann and thats why you guys were talking about knowing eachother and him buddying with you. You would have to post almost at day start in the code to parker before he reveals your ass. We would still have to kill Earle in this scenario.

We can't lose another Mafia atm. That's a given. Unless we lynch the SGF, we cannot risk it. Keeping you alive is important now.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Hi Switzerland

If a mayor reveals they are blackmailed in Day chat do they lose their extra votes immediately?

[FM Ferengi]

If a mayor reveals they are blackmailed in Day chat do they lose their extra votes immediately?

All demotions happen at the start of night.

[FM Leonardo]

We can always give out fake feedbacks such as roleblocked to Leary or Chapman or something

Hmm... That could work, I guess... The funny thing is, now that most of the PRs are dead, your ability is kind of limited. The only drugs that it really makes sense for you to send at this point are witched, roleblocked, feedback block, and fake blackmail. Maybe fake soma.

At first I thought sending the fake blackmail might be good, but it's pretty risky because if town figures out it's fake and they can't figure out where the real one is (if I'm roleblocked, for example) it might look very bad for me.

Actually, come to think of it... I just got an idea. You sad Parker told you there was no Enforcer, right Galloway? Well since he didn't pass his latest soma yet, I think it's safe to say you're the only one besides the mayor who has this information. That means when we kill him tonight, my claim of mason enforcer once again becomes possible. Originally I was thinking we could send fake soma to support this claim but that might not even be necessary. We should, however, come up with a fake soma message that I could have sent to him (when we sent him the first fake one) so that I can use it in my claim. This is tricky because I don't really want to claim with the savages alive... I don't think they'll care given that they're at max capacity, but they might want to kill an enforcer anyway just to throw the town off.

Also, fun fact... Assuming none of us die tonight, and our kill on Parker is successful, scum will have the majority tomorrow. Hopefully we will get the town's assistance in lynching a savage. My bet is that Ackerman will be lynched, so that may not pan out. Though there is a chance that he was the savage that was sent to kill last night and that's why he didn't claim the roleblock. I'll probably try to push that angle, since even if he's witch, he's pretty much fucked so we might as well get some town cred out of it.

[FM Leonardo]

So you claimed Doc to Parker? That's going to be awkward. We could kill him and gamble that he wont reveal you in the article. The only way to keep you alive as I see it is to Kill Earle which will prevent the article from going out. If he's a savage, it's to our benefit. If not, it still prevents Parker from outing you as a fake doctor.

Then we can blackmail Parker into something that will either prevent him from posting anything reasonable. i.e. Cleansed OR make it so he can only show suspicion against one player.
Written like - You may only show suspicion and vote against FM Ryan or FM Leary. You may not make reads, analyze or post opinions or claims from any other players. You are the only one holding town together, revealing the blackmail will almost confirm the loss. Not doing it on the first day will cause the delta's to no lynch.

The problem is this play just protects you. We are going to be outnumbered by Savages. We need to either lynch a savage tomorrow or kill one tonight. Killing Earle is our best bet because Savages may have targeted him and it can clear you with the right blackmail. That's why I think we need Parker still alive. If Parker dies, it will basically be just us vs Savages with delta fodder in between.

Also, Mason is not the Escort. He is definitely just a Delturd. Kalou is still the escort, notice how today he was all about lynching Mason, and as soon as Mason claims Escort there was 0 pressure from him. I don't think Kalou will target me or Donnelly so it should be fine. Galloway could be targeted, but it's unlikely.

@Galloway did the mayor reveal any other information to you? Like who he suspects or his reads? Don't reveal the code and Donnelly and I can't use this to our benefit...but it could be used well.

I disagree, I think Mason is really the escort. But anyway, the problem with killing Earle to stop the article is that the mayor would still be alive. So he won't need the article. He'll just say "Galloway is scum". And sure, a blackmail would be great here... Except the mayor has two days to complete the task. So he could just do it on day 11, and call Galloway out tomorrow.

SIGH.

[FM Leonardo]

Oh and I forgot to mention- I like the student claim idea (especially since it explains the buddying and such) but the problem is that I think Earle might be the corrupt journalist (I mean seriously, where the fuck else is the benign neutral?) in which case killing him would immediately ruin that plan.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Well Parker doesn't know that at least.

Witching Mason will just make him feel like a successful Delta troll. I think we should not rely on witch feedbacks.

Also Galloway, the student claim could actually work. Just do your typical calling everyone dumb[bleep]s and post the Code to Parker. He will have to accept it with the blackmail I proposed anyways for at least a day. Then we can kill him the next day after going after Savages.

Updated Blackmail note
You may only show suspicion and vote against FM Ryan or FM Leary. You may not make reads, analyze or post opinions or claims from any other players.

You are the only one holding town together, revealing the blackmail will almost confirm the loss. Not doing it on the first day will cause the delta sheep to no lynch, also causing a loss for you. We are just ensuring you lynch a Savage. Feel free to put them both up as your gladiator targets.
Would this be acceptable?
Is it acceptable to add a little note to the blackmail like this?

[FM Leonardo]

Well Parker doesn't know that at least.

Witching Mason will just make him feel like a successful Delta troll. I think we should not rely on witch feedbacks.

Also Galloway, the student claim could actually work. Just do your typical calling everyone dumb[bleep]s and post the Code to Parker. He will have to accept it with the blackmail I proposed anyways for at least a day. Then we can kill him the next day after going after Savages.

Updated Blackmail note
You may only show suspicion and vote against FM Ryan or FM Leary. You may not make reads, analyze or post opinions or claims from any other players.

You are the only one holding town together, revealing the blackmail will almost confirm the loss. Not doing it on the first day will cause the delta sheep to no lynch, also causing a loss for you. We are just ensuring you lynch a Savage. Feel free to put them both up as your gladiator targets.
Would this be acceptable?
Is it acceptable to add a little note to the blackmail like this?

You're still forgetting... Two days, man. Two days.

[FM Artaxerxes]

I think Ackerman is a good target for the neutral. Especially since he thought it would be "fun" to be in the gauntlet with rose tomorrow. Not something any delta would want to be in. I am suspecting Ghost and will be posting a code tomorrow just in case if he is getting lynched. Two corrupts doesn't make sense to me. It could be possible, but I doubt it.

I think I solved that problem with Mayor choosing to wait with the updated blackmail. Waiting ensures town loss, and we are telling him that the targets we give him are Savages, so he has to just take a chance.

Leo, if he takes two days then he would be ensuring his loss.

[FM Leonardo]

Oh and I forgot to mention- I like the student claim idea (especially since it explains the buddying and such) but the problem is that I think Earle might be the corrupt journalist (I mean seriously, where the fuck else is the benign neutral?) in which case killing him would immediately ruin that plan.

Oh yeah. Obvious thing that just occurred to me- Why wouldn't Galloway have just claimed student of lichtmann to the mayor? That would have saved the doctor and redirected the lynch. It doesn't make much sense for student galloway to let his master, the doctor, get lynched when he could easily have saved him.

[FM Artaxerxes]

If He waits til day 11 to do it, then he wont lynch anyone tomorrow and the blackmail still prevents him from revealing information about Galloway. 2 day restriction doesnt mean he can just choose to ignore it and the be blackmailed on 2nd day


And yeah, that is a flaw with the student claim. He could claim to be holding the information to see who voted against him and find the scum.

Mayor may find one of these players scummy. That's why I want to put the pressure on Ryan or Leary.
FM Ryan, FM Kalou, FM Leary, FM Mendez, FM Chapman, FM Parker (Mayor).

[FM Leonardo]

Leo, if he takes two days then he would be ensuring his loss.

Perhaps, but that doesn't mean he won't take us down with him. Remember, town intends to get revenge on whichever faction kills the mayor. At least, that's what they've been saying in order to keep us from attacking him. lol. As if that ever mattered...

The point is, he'll see the blackmail as a sign of aggression and attempt to hunt us. It doesn't matter much since he has no clue who we are, but I still doubt he'll actually do the blackmail on the first day. Plus, it might just help him because it confirms those 2 are not mafia so if he decides to hunt mafia, his pool becomes that much smaller.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Well maybe Savages will kill Mason tonight then to show you.

Ackerman was not roleblocked -


*pout*
You guys take this too seriously! Lighten up will ya?

Ackerman got blocked last night.

Ackerman - Are you claiming escort?
Ackerman doubts Masons claim. Only reason why he would ask this.


Kalou - so... if no one claims drugged, then ackerman is next? there was no reason for the DD not to drug last night.
Ackerman - I'd like to point out as of now I still suspect mason.
Ackerman still suspects Mason after mason claims to have roleblocked him.

I think later he realized Mason could be going for a wifom attempt as Delta which is why he decided to not reveal that he was not roleblocked until much later.

Day 7 Mayor told escort to block Ackerman. Which is probably why Mason guessed Ackerman or that he was roleblocked himself.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Perhaps, but that doesn't mean he won't take us down with him. Remember, town intends to get revenge on whichever faction kills the mayor. At least, that's what they've been saying in order to keep us from attacking him. lol. As if that ever mattered...

The point is, he'll see the blackmail as a sign of aggression and attempt to hunt us. It doesn't matter much since he has no clue who we are, but I still doubt he'll actually do the blackmail on the first day. Plus, it might just help him because it confirms those 2 are not mafia so if he decides to hunt mafia, his pool becomes that much smaller.
If he waits 2 days, then we are safe from his lynch for 2 days. He won't reveal his blackmail because he isn't aware that he has until the end of the day before the blackmail penaltys effect him.

We or the Savages will kill him in two days. So I am not worried about him coming back and taking revenge because of this. There is no more protection for him because of lichtderp. If you want we can lower the amount of targets to 1 player to raise the pool of non mafia.

[FM Artaxerxes]

The biggest problem I see with my plan is the Mayor sending Soma with a message saying that Galloway claimed Doctor to him. We just have to hope that the Witch actually witches him tonight.

[FM Attila]

I dreamed about that exact thing lol.
I could easily say that Lichtmann started pouting off about how we need to get rid of Parker because he was ruining the town with his leaderships and how he had started trying to push me into following him against parker and stuff.

I'd say it like this"

"Parker, I am now the Doctor offically. I was student to Lichtmann. I'm sorry for the lie but Lichtmann had to go. He was becoming a toxin to the town. Our night chat had become filled with rage posts about how bad you are playing and that you are leading the town into it's defeat and that we needed to get rid of you somehow."


If this doesn't work at least I can boast that I had a substanual impact on the game through my manipulations of the mayor.

[FM Attila]

I also like that idea that Leo had brought up. We desperately need the Savage GF lynched. I'm going to be doing my damndest to get Green lynched tomorrow.

[FM Leonardo]

If he waits 2 days, then we are safe from his lynch for 2 days. He won't reveal his blackmail because he isn't aware that he has until the end of the day before the blackmail penaltys effect him.

We or the Savages will kill him in two days. So I am not worried about him coming back and taking revenge because of this. There is no more protection for him because of lichtderp. If you want we can lower the amount of targets to 1 player to raise the pool of non mafia.

No we aren't. He only has to do the blackmail for one day. He can vote/fos/whatver the fuck anyone he wants on the other day. So he could just lynch galloway tomorrow and then FoS leary or whatever the day after. Point being- we have no control over what the mayor does/says tomorrow. I think our best option is to kill him.

[FM Attila]

We really should just kill him now. Town will fluster and be easier to control. All of us are prominent memebers of the town and in position to take control so we can direct them to people we want dead such as Green.

[FM Artaxerxes]

No we aren't. He only has to do the blackmail for one day. He can vote/fos/whatver the fuck anyone he wants on the other day. So he could just lynch galloway tomorrow and then FoS leary or whatever the day after. Point being- we have no control over what the mayor does/says tomorrow. I think our best option is to kill him.

...I don't believe this is how the role works. Another example blackmail that I thought could work -

Do not reveal any information or vote to lynch Galloway.

Then he can just lynch him and then say "I have no information on Galloway and wont lynch him the day after". I am pretty sure the role isn't that weak. I want the FM to confirm what you are trying to say.

If the blackmail clearly states that he can't do something. Then him doing it, no matter which day would be violating the blackmail.

@Attilla the article is going to make you obvious scum. You won't be able to control people if you are the scum spect.

[FM Artaxerxes]

I lead the mislynch basically on Lichtmann, so my town status will be questioned. It won't be hard to regain trust aka lichtmann was terrible....but still it will hurt it.

Also the other problem with you claiming student is the double drugdeals. People will associate a student with the drug dealer...

[FM Artaxerxes]

Godfather - Mendez
[Soma Dealer] - Galloway
[Soma Dealer] - Donnelly
Savage Godfather - Ryan
[Hidden Epsilon] - Ackerman/Green - ghost? honestly unsure here
[Hidden Alpha] - Parker Mayor
[Hidden A/B/G/D] - Earle - Journalist / Savaged
[Hidden A/B/G/D] - Kalou - Escort
[Hidden A/B/G/D] - Fontaine - Delta turned Savage
[Hidden A/B/G/D] - Kelso - Delta turned Savage
[Hidden A/B/G/D] - Mason - Delta
Delta - Chapman
Delta - Galletta
Delta - Rose
Delta - Leary
[Random Any] - Witch - Green/Ackerman

One of my other Delta possibilities could also be savaged tonight. Depending on if Savages kill or not.

[FM Leonardo]

I am pretty sure the role isn't that weak.


Oh, you poor naive Godfather...

Blackmailers can't do anything. Blackmailer is the new mafioso!

Seriously though. When I sent the blackmail "you may only post lines from cleanses. blah blah blah" That only applied for one day. Not because I said "for one day" or anything, it simply is implied that it is only for one day. It is one of the many, many, many, many, many limitations of the role. Same goes for yours. When you say "don't do x" all that means is that they have to not do x for one day of their choice. Please confirm.

[FM Attila]

I really think Savages will have this in the bag but thats only because no one in the town has any guts to lynch anyone who claimed delta. We probably could have had the gf down and out by now if they did.

I dunno what we can do exactly. Things have been taken out of our hands

[FM Artaxerxes]

Oh, you poor naive Godfather...

Blackmailers can't do anything. Blackmailer is the new mafioso!

Seriously though. When I sent the blackmail "you may only post lines from cleanses. blah blah blah" That only applied for one day. Not because I said "for one day" or anything, it simply is implied that it is only for one day. It is one of the many, many, many, many, many limitations of the role. Same goes for yours. When you say "don't do x" all that means is that they have to not do x for one day of their choice. Please confirm.

Blackmailer is good for uh...confirming people as non-mafia. lel. I don't like that because what's the point of a blackmail if he can't actually stop someone from posting something. I want to wait this out to see. Because that would be hurpdurp bad if that was real. I'll stay naive :)

Attila, we have to kill savages. Town showed they were down for lynching Deltas today....so nothing stopping it tomorrow. Lichtmann and Rose were both delta claimers.

[FM Leonardo]

Since all the cool kids are doing it.

Godfather - Mendez
[Soma Dealer] - Galloway
[Soma Dealer] - Donnelly
Savage Godfather - Green
[Hidden Epsilon] - Earle (corrupt journalist)
[Hidden Alpha] - Parker (Mayor)
[Hidden A/B/G/D] - Mason - Escort
[Hidden A/B/G/D] - Ryan - Delta turned savage
[Hidden A/B/G/D] - Fontaine - Delta turned Savage
[Hidden A/B/G/D] - Kelso/Ackerman - Delta turned Savage
[Hidden A/B/G/D] - Kalou - Delta
Delta - Chapman
Delta - Galletta
Delta - Rose
Delta - Leary/Kelso
[Random Any] - Witch - Ackerman/Leary
[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure Leary is scum. Ackerman is either the witch or a savage who got stopped from doing their kill last night. Mason is the escort. Kalou is a delta.

Art, you keep saying kalou is escort because he backed off of Mason after Mason claimed escort... I also FoSed Mason and backed off after she claimed. Why? Because she's the escort! If anything, it's proof of kalou believing the claim. I see no evidence of kalou being the escort.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Also Leo, if your limitation is true, it's only US that knows this limitation. None of the town would be aware of it since they don't have as extensive knowledge of the blackmailers weaknesses as we do.



Leo check my posts from yesterday or I'll link them. Kalou claimed a TPR and then later claimed Delta and everyone seemed to read over it....I may be tunnelling it too much but i think it's very likely.

It seems their is agreement that Fontaine + Ryan are definitely savaged. I also think Kelso could be savaged, but he sheeps hard so I am unsure.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Going to use Red for my analysis, Gold for Galloway, and Violet for yours Cutting out us and Parker, since they are confirmed. Putting Asterisks on ones we all agree on. *

FM Ackerman* Witch Witch/Hidden Epsilon Savage/Witch
FM Chapman* Delta Delta Delta
FM Earle Savage Journalist/Journalist Journalist/Savaged Corrupt Journalist
FM Fontaine* Savage Savage Savage
FM Galletta* Delta/Neutral Benign Delta Delta
FM Green Savage GF Witch/Hidden Epsilon Savage GF
FM Kalou Delta Escort Delta
FM Kelso Delta/Neutral Benign Savage Savage/Delta
FM Leary Savage Delta Witch/Delta
FM Mason Escort Delta Escort
FM Rose* Delta Delta Delta
FM Ryan* Delta/Savage Savage GF Savage

[FM Artaxerxes]

I'll be back in 3 hours! Ponder my plan. I think if we want to turn this in our favor we will need Parker to help us.

[FM Attila]

Kill
○ Leary

I think we all agree that we need to take out a savage on our own seeing as how town is refusing to do a damn thing about them

[FM Leonardo]

Also Leo, if your limitation is true, it's only US that knows this limitation. None of the town would be aware of it since they don't have as extensive knowledge of the blackmailers weaknesses as we do.



Leo check my posts from yesterday or I'll link them. Kalou claimed a TPR and then later claimed Delta and everyone seemed to read over it....I may be tunnelling it too much but i think it's very likely.

It seems their is agreement that Fontaine + Ryan are definitely savaged. I also think Kelso could be savaged, but he sheeps hard so I am unsure.

True, but if Parker is smart, the first thing he'll do is ask questions until he understands exactly what he can and cannot do under the blackmail. Granted, Parker hasn't shown himself to be the most analytical player, but I'd rather not base an entire plan around him failing to ask the right questions.

[FM Leonardo]

Kill
○ Leary

I think we all agree that we need to take out a savage on our own seeing as how town is refusing to do a damn thing about them

No, town is trying, they are just failing. And killing leary sacrifices you, which defeats the whole point. No. We have to kill Parker tonight and try to save you. Even if Parker calls you out during the day, you might be able to worm your way out of it by saying you're a delta trying to take a hit or something. Ackerman still looks pretty scummy for lying about being drugged, so we might be able to get him lynched first.

And Leary is an easy lynch target. I really think Parker is our best choice.

[FM Ferengi]

Well Parker doesn't know that at least.

Witching Mason will just make him feel like a successful Delta troll. I think we should not rely on witch feedbacks.

Also Galloway, the student claim could actually work. Just do your typical calling everyone dumb[bleep]s and post the Code to Parker. He will have to accept it with the blackmail I proposed anyways for at least a day. Then we can kill him the next day after going after Savages.

Updated Blackmail note
You may only show suspicion and vote against FM Ryan or FM Leary. You may not make reads, analyze or post opinions or claims from any other players.

You are the only one holding town together, revealing the blackmail will almost confirm the loss. Not doing it on the first day will cause the delta sheep to no lynch, also causing a loss for you. We are just ensuring you lynch a Savage. Feel free to put them both up as your gladiator targets.
Would this be acceptable?
Is it acceptable to add a little note to the blackmail like this?

This is two different tasks. The first being only showing suspicion and voting for those two players, and the second being you may not make reads or analyze any other players.

You may add a note to the blackmail.

[FM Ferengi]

Oh, you poor naive Godfather...

Blackmailers can't do anything. Blackmailer is the new mafioso!

Seriously though. When I sent the blackmail "you may only post lines from cleanses. blah blah blah" That only applied for one day. Not because I said "for one day" or anything, it simply is implied that it is only for one day. It is one of the many, many, many, many, many limitations of the role. Same goes for yours. When you say "don't do x" all that means is that they have to not do x for one day of their choice. Please confirm.

The blackmailed target can choose to do the blackmail on one of two days. It doesn't impose any restrictions on the day they choose not to do the blackmail.

[FM Attila]

The blackmailed target can choose to do the blackmail on one of two days. It doesn't impose any restrictions on the day they choose not to do the blackmail.

Yep.

Kill
○ Parker

[FM Attila]

What do you think about drugging someone with attacked and healed?

[FM Ferengi]

Yep.

Kill
○ Parker

FM Galloway's current night action is to perform the kill on Parker. This cannot be overridden by anyone except Galloway or if the godfather chooses to kill. If the godfather overrides Galloway's opt to perform the kill, Galloway will perform no action as his was overridden.

tl;dr Please specify who you wish to perform actions.

[FM Attila]

FM Galloway's current night action is to perform the kill on Parker. This cannot be overridden by anyone except Galloway or if the godfather chooses to kill. If the godfather overrides Galloway's opt to perform the kill, Galloway will perform no action as his was overridden.

tl;dr Please specify who you wish to perform actions.

Oh well then

Mendez: Kill Parker
Galloway: Wait to find out what to do

[FM Leonardo]

The blackmailed target can choose to do the blackmail on one of two days. It doesn't impose any restrictions on the day they choose not to do the blackmail.

Called it.

[FM Leonardo]

Called it.

I will accept your votes for Player's Choice as my prize. Ok? Ok.

[FM Leonardo]

Oh well then

Mendez: Kill Parker
Galloway: Wait to find out what to do

lol.

I considered the attacked and healed thing. There are some drawbacks though.

1. They know we have a drug dealer. Might know it's a drug and kill you anyway.
2. Savages and us both kill successfully = no room for heal = wat. = you dead, son.

[FM Attila]

I will accept your votes for Player's Choice as my prize. Ok? Ok.

While this has been brought up. I feel like there are very very few people here total who are worthy of that. Phelps wasn't, the savage GF isn't, the Savages total aren't. The Town is in tatters and its due to phelps and dunns derps that they even got those two lynched. This is a game full of lurking sheep and it seems like we three are the only people, aside from parker, who have made any attempts to try and win for their faction. Its just..saddening to see the current player base be so...lackluster.


lol.

I considered the attacked and healed thing. There are some drawbacks though.

1. They know we have a drug dealer. Might know it's a drug and kill you anyway.
2. Savages and us both kill successfully = no room for heal = wat. = you dead, son.

Yeah thats the drawback.. :/

[FM Attila]

I've had an idea.

Kill Parker, if journalist message does not mention anything about masons

1) Galloway claim Executioner; target Lichtmann
2) Donnelly claim Mason Enforcer
3) Mendez claim Delta or Witch

After Parker we lynch Leary; Kill Mason; Lynch Mason if she survives/Lynch RyanorGreen the next day; Roflstomp to victory.

Nutshell'd plan. It just came to me.

[FM Leonardo]

While this has been brought up. I feel like there are very very few people here total who are worthy of that. Phelps wasn't, the savage GF isn't, the Savages total aren't. The Town is in tatters and its due to phelps and dunns derps that they even got those two lynched. This is a game full of lurking sheep and it seems like we three are the only people, aside from parker, who have made any attempts to try and win for their faction. Its just..saddening to see the current player base be so...lackluster.


I think you're not giving the savage gf enough credit. I mean, he's clearly not doing much during the day, but at night he's been doing pretty well, I'd say. For starters, he wasn't found and eliminated immediately (lol, arsonist), and he hasn't totally failed to recruit every night like the rebels did in FM 17 (and also outed themselves and got roflstomped in a single night). So I don't think the savage gf is terrible necessarily. And to be fair, there were plenty of good players for town. We just killed them all. lol. Cafarelli, Bishop, Colmyer, Morgan, and Monroe were all pretty good. Morgan ended up being savage, but he started as town. I think there were more good players too, but I can't think of them off the top of my head. The point I'm making is- the town is this way right now because we wanted
it to be. We killed off all the people who could intelligently lead town specifically so that they would have attempt to limp through this clusterfuck to victory. The town's current predicament is as much due to our success as it is to town's failure. So don't lose hope in the playerbase just yet.

But I digress. We should probably save any further discussion of this for the post game. Because right now we've got a game to win and we have no fucking clue how to use 2/3 of our night actions. lol

[FM Attila]

I will accept your votes for Player's Choice as my prize. Ok? Ok.


I think you're not giving the savage gf enough credit. I mean, he's clearly not doing much during the day, but at night he's been doing pretty well, I'd say. For starters, he wasn't found and eliminated immediately (lol, arsonist), and he hasn't totally failed to recruit every night like the rebels did in FM 17 (and also outed themselves and got roflstomped in a single night). So I don't think the savage gf is terrible necessarily. And to be fair, there were plenty of good players for town. We just killed them all. lol. Cafarelli, Bishop, Colmyer, Morgan, and Monroe were all pretty good. Morgan ended up being savage, but he started as town. I think there were more good players too, but I can't think of them off the top of my head. The point I'm making is- the town is this way right now because we wanted
it to be. We killed off all the people who could intelligently lead town specifically so that they would have attempt to limp through this clusterfuck to victory. The town's current predicament is as much due to our success as it is to town's failure. So don't lose hope in the playerbase just yet.

But I digress. We should probably save any further discussion of this for the post game. Because right now we've got a game to win and we have no fucking clue how to use 2/3 of our night actions. lol

Meh.. If you say so.
Savage GF in this game is nearly impossible to not be able to recruit someone. You'd have to be slow to not be able to do so in this setup.


So Drugging:
Witch
Roleblock
Prevent Feedback


Who do we suspect Mason too be roleblocking? {Ignore the earlier message I derpped on the kill Mason bit. I was supposed to be Ryan/Green twice.}

[FM Attila]

Personally I believe that Mason is going to be visiting Galletta or Leary tonight.

[FM Leonardo]

I've had an idea.

Kill Parker, if journalist message does not mention anything about masons

1) Galloway claim Executioner; target Lichtmann
2) Donnelly claim Mason Enforcer
3) Mendez claim Delta or Witch

After Parker we lynch Leary; Kill Mason; Lynch Mason if she survives/Lynch RyanorGreen the next day; Roflstomp to victory.

Nutshell'd plan. It just came to me.

Interesting plan. I like it, but I'm going to try to poke holes in it to see if we can prepare for every situation. It's what I do. So if you're exec- how did you know Lichtmann was doctor? Why did you claim doctor?

If I'm mason enforcer- what did my soma to the mayor say? [also keep in mind I don't want to claim this until all savages are dead]

If mendez is witch- I get that town needs to reduce kpn which makes him not a priority, but as we know, this was also the case for dunn's lynch and they still lynched him. So i'm not sold on that working out. delta is a pretty safe claim though.

[FM Leonardo]

I think Mason will choose to roleblock me, as per the mayor's wishes. I think the witch will have Mason target Galloway instead.

[FM Attila]

Interesting plan. I like it, but I'm going to try to poke holes in it to see if we can prepare for every situation. It's what I do. So if you're exec- how did you know Lichtmann was doctor? Why did you claim doctor?

If I'm mason enforcer- what did my soma to the mayor say? [also keep in mind I don't want to claim this until all savages are dead]

If mendez is witch- I get that town needs to reduce kpn which makes him not a priority, but as we know, this was also the case for dunn's lynch and they still lynched him. So i'm not sold on that working out. delta is a pretty safe claim though.

Lichtmann: He gave off reads that an experineced anaylsist can pick up on in waves. Plus he soft claimed it twice when Dunn was alive
Donnelly: I think we can go with the normal message you sent him editted to be finely tuned to work like take ut the I work alone and the fact that you got feedback when you didn't :p
Mendez: Witch if Town is at a minority as to avoid savage targeting. Delta if town is majority

[FM Leonardo]

Lichtmann: He gave off reads that an experineced anaylsist can pick up on in waves. Plus he soft claimed it twice when Dunn was alive
Donnelly: I think we can go with the normal message you sent him editted to be finely tuned to work like take ut the I work alone and the fact that you got feedback when you didn't :p
Mendez: Witch if Town is at a minority as to avoid savage targeting. Delta if town is majority

Parker revealed my soma message to the town already. So if we're going to do it, we'd have to rewrite it from scratch.

[FM Attila]

Parker revealed my soma message to the town already. So if we're going to do it, we'd have to rewrite it from scratch.

We can do it no problem I think. Hmm

[FM Artaxerxes]

Ok so Leo you were right. But as far as I know, town is NOT aware of this extreme limitation....nor would they even be expected to be. We are only aware of it because we asked so many questions about it and been getting loopholed the entire time. Anyways, if you guys want to attempt this let me just say -

Savages will likely make a kill tonight. Earle will give Parker his last will, and he will reveal Attila as a liar about the doc. No doubt about that. You can claim exec and Lichtmann as your target? But who will believe it when you didn't even vote to lynch him....

If you guys want to kill Parker it's going to be probably 8 votes to lynch. Scum will be able to lurk harder than ever. The three of us will have to come up with someone to lynch and defuse you as scum. We can expect Rose, Kalou and Leary to vote with me and Donnelly, so that's to our advantage. Perhaps we can get the train going on Ryan again.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Rewriting the Soma should be easy. Definitely add in YOUR name, Blacks name and then your actions. Pass to Black~. etc.

Problem with this is Witch will likely begin targeting you for Soma. Lol. Also they will wonder who you are passing the Soma to tonight.

[FM Attila]

Ok so Leo you were right. But as far as I know, town is NOT aware of this extreme limitation....nor would they even be expected to be. We are only aware of it because we asked so many questions about it and been getting loopholed the entire time. Anyways, if you guys want to attempt this let me just say -

Savages will likely make a kill tonight. Earle will give Parker his last will, and he will reveal Attila as a liar about the doc. No doubt about that. You can claim exec and Lichtmann as your target? But who will believe it when you didn't even vote to lynch him....

If you guys want to kill Parker it's going to be probably 8 votes to lynch. Scum will be able to lurk harder than ever. The three of us will have to come up with someone to lynch and defuse you as scum. We can expect Rose, Kalou and Leary to vote with me and Donnelly, so that's to our advantage. Perhaps we can get the train going on Ryan again.

that should be simple. I can easily pass off me being able to manipulate the mayor into having no choice but to lynch Lichtmann because in reality thats what happened which thus freed me from having to put my support into the lynch.

[FM Attila]

that should be simple. I can easily pass off me being able to manipulate the mayor into having no choice but to lynch Lichtmann because in reality thats what happened which thus freed me from having to put my support into the lynch.

the Lichtmann lynch was accidental however. I shouldnt give anyone the false pressumption about it being anything else.

[FM Artaxerxes]

the Lichtmann lynch was accidental however. I shouldnt give anyone the false pressumption about it being anything else.

Okay. I'll make it sound believable.

Since we are killing Parker. Who should be our Blackmail target?

[FM Artaxerxes]

Okay. I'll make it sound believable.

Since we are killing Parker. Who should be our Blackmail target?

I mean I'll support the theory in the day chat. It doesn't really fit with the com hunting you guys were talknig about, but owell.

[FM Attila]

I mean I'll support the theory in the day chat. It doesn't really fit with the com hunting you guys were talknig about, but owell.

I know but the only other thing I can do is claim student and people would wonder why I allowed my town doc masta to be lynched.

[FM Attila]

Im thinkin we should blackmail Ryan with pushing a lynch on Green

[FM Artaxerxes]

Im thinkin we should blackmail Ryan with pushing a lynch on Green

Why Green? I am not seeing a good reason to get Green atm.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Why Green? I am not seeing a good reason to get Green atm.

Well both of you think he is the SGF. So we could attempt it. If Ryan is the savage godfather he can just claim it in savage chat and have one of the other savages "realize" that he is blackmailed.

[FM Attila]

Well both of you think he is the SGF. So we could attempt it. If Ryan is the savage godfather he can just claim it in savage chat and have one of the other savages "realize" that he is blackmailed.

It should work to find out if Ryan is a savage or a townie based on his actions and the actions of others around him.

[FM Leonardo]

Problem with this is Witch will likely begin targeting you for Soma. Lol. Also they will wonder who you are passing the Soma to tonight.

Actually, I have a pretty good plan to get around that. First of all, I'm not going to be claiming unless I am under a lot of pressure or until all the savages are dead. Anyway, here's the plan.

Possibility #1 (Ackerman is witch): He'll probably be lynched. If not tomorrow, then the day after that. ez.

Possibility #2 (Ackerman is NOT witch/or he is but isn't lynched immediately): On a night after I would have received soma (assuming I've claimed by this point), I will send a blackmail that says something to the effect of "Do not reveal that you are the witch". The hope is that the witch intends to use the soma for himself so he'll witch me onto himself and receive my blackmail. Then he should know that I'm the blackmailer and leave me alone on subsequent nights. If he doesn't witch me, I still might hit the witch just by targeting him, which would also work out pretty well. Otherwise some towny is just going to be a bit confused. No big deal.

Thoughts?

[FM Leonardo]

Also I don't like the idea of blackmailing someone to push a lynch on someone else, because it essentially confirms then we essentially confirm two people per night of not being mafia. Which means if we keep it up, eventually we'll all have to claim blackmailed in order to avoid being lynched.

[FM Leonardo]

Also I don't like the idea of blackmailing someone to push a lynch on someone else, because then we essentially confirm two people per night of not being mafia. Which means if we keep it up, eventually we'll all have to claim blackmailed in order to avoid being lynched.

woops. typed that phrase twice. I'm tired. Fixed.

[FM Artaxerxes]

It should work to find out if Ryan is a savage or a townie based on his actions and the actions of others around him.

Yeah I'm okay with that then. Are we going to do a blackmail similar to the one I proposed for the Mayor? I want to test Ryan to see if anyone other than us knows this weakness to the Blackmail. I think people are more worried about how to reveal they are blackmailed without getting demoted than how to loophole it.

My blackmail proposal - Going to word it so unless he knows what we know aka can ignore blackmail on 1st day then he will have to do it.

Hello Ryan.
I think it's about time we targeted you. We are going to make things simple. You may be Savage and definitely look like a Savage. We want you to vote against players to make them look like they are innocent. You can be as convincing or not as you want. I suggest you be more convincing, or it will appear that you are lurking. Not good at this point in the game. It shouldn't be hard with the target we give you.

You may only show suspicion and vote against FM Green. You may not unvote, change your vote, or contradict your posts.

Also Attilla, thoughts on choosing Leary instead of Green?



@Leo, what do you suggest if not forcing a vote. At this point if we control the votes we can control the town day chat. That's why I want to keep Parker alive. Sheep WILL vote with the mayor.

[FM Attila]

Im cool either way :)

[FM Ferengi]

Yeah I'm okay with that then. Are we going to do a blackmail similar to the one I proposed for the Mayor? I want to test Ryan to see if anyone other than us knows this weakness to the Blackmail. I think people are more worried about how to reveal they are blackmailed without getting demoted than how to loophole it.

My blackmail proposal - Going to word it so unless he knows what we know aka can ignore blackmail on 1st day then he will have to do it.

Hello Ryan.
I think it's about time we targeted you. We are going to make things simple. You may be Savage and definitely look like a Savage. We want you to vote against players to make them look like they are innocent. You can be as convincing or not as you want. I suggest you be more convincing, or it will appear that you are lurking. Not good at this point in the game. It shouldn't be hard with the target we give you.

You may only show suspicion and vote against FM Green. You may not unvote, change your vote, or contradict your posts.

Also Attilla, thoughts on choosing Leary instead of Green?



@Leo, what do you suggest if not forcing a vote. At this point if we control the votes we can control the town day chat. That's why I want to keep Parker alive. Sheep WILL vote with the mayor.

The thing about "contradict your posts" should be worded more clearly to reflect that it is only in reference to not contradicting pressure/suspicion against green.

[FM Leonardo]

Yeah I'm okay with that then. Are we going to do a blackmail similar to the one I proposed for the Mayor? I want to test Ryan to see if anyone other than us knows this weakness to the Blackmail. I think people are more worried about how to reveal they are blackmailed without getting demoted than how to loophole it.

My blackmail proposal - Going to word it so unless he knows what we know aka can ignore blackmail on 1st day then he will have to do it.

Hello Ryan.
I think it's about time we targeted you. We are going to make things simple. You may be Savage and definitely look like a Savage. We want you to vote against players to make them look like they are innocent. You can be as convincing or not as you want. I suggest you be more convincing, or it will appear that you are lurking. Not good at this point in the game. It shouldn't be hard with the target we give you.

You may only show suspicion and vote against FM Green. You may not unvote, change your vote, or contradict your posts.

Also Attilla, thoughts on choosing Leary instead of Green?



@Leo, what do you suggest if not forcing a vote. At this point if we control the votes we can control the town day chat. That's why I want to keep Parker alive. Sheep WILL vote with the mayor.

I think we can control the votes more easily by simply not allowing a person to unvote. Perhaps something like "You must vote for someone other than yourself within your first five posts of the day. You must use vote tags, and the vote must be accepted by the vote counter. You may not unvote or vote anyone else for the rest of the day."

It's simple. He has to vote someone and can't change it based on any information. I could add something to prevent him from explaining the vote too, I guess. How's that? It still controls the vote, but without confirming anyone else as non mafia.

[FM Artaxerxes]

I think we can control the votes more easily by simply not allowing a person to unvote. Perhaps something like "You must vote for someone other than yourself within your first five posts of the day. You must use vote tags, and the vote must be accepted by the vote counter. You may not unvote or vote anyone else for the rest of the day."

It's simple. He has to vote someone and can't change it based on any information. I could add something to prevent him from explaining the vote too, I guess. How's that? It still controls the vote, but without confirming anyone else as non mafia.

It's too late in the game to try and stay neutral with it. Someone being blackmailed may reveal it in two days, but in two days after tonight, town WILL have lost majority. We can tell his alignment by how he reacts with it.

If we place Ryan in a Savage V Savage, he will likely wait until the last point until doing it. i.e. wait until hammer is on someone else, then putting it on there. Especially with the vote lock.
If it is Savage v Town or Town V Savage, he would have no reason not to vote him, except to hinder us. Would be expected to complete it day 2, but not at final point.


Reworded blackmail, unsure if the note sounds good.

Hello Ryan.
I think it's about time we targeted you. We are going to make things simple. You may be Savage and definitely look like a Savage. We want you to vote against players to make them look like they are innocent. You can be as convincing or not as you want. I suggest you be more convincing, or it will appear that you are lurking. Not good at this point in the game. It shouldn't be hard with the target we give you.

You may only show suspicion and vote against FM Green. You may not unvote, change your vote. You are not to contradict your suspicion against Green in a way that would make your posts unbelievable.

Going to look at a better choice for Savage than Green

[FM Artaxerxes]

The more and more I see Ryans reads on players I think he is a Delta. His consistent town reads are the players who are...most likely town. Green is our best choice I Think. Day 7 he thought he was a witch and Day 8 he thinks he is town.

Also Leary -
Day 7 = FM Leary - Either citizen or possible Sagave Godfather
Day 8 = FM Leary - Either Delta or possible Savage GF. But we only suspect him as GF by Parker's statement alone. I don't think that Parker actually intended to lynch Leary back at Day 6.

Defending Leary and Green after conversion?

[FM Artaxerxes]

I think pressuring Leary tomorrow may be a good choice for a lynch.

Also how about a death note like this -

Hello town,

Just wanted to give you some more info from your fail mayor. He lied about the witching, our drug dealer acted elsewhere. I suspected he would lie, to try and catch me using it if I was scum so I'm using it tonight. Our other kill, Galloway will contain the rest of the death note.

I am thinking about changing Galloway, which clears you as not mafia...TO Leary, which clears him as not Mafia, but supports the Savage GF theory.
Thoughts?

[FM Artaxerxes]

With this death note, we can attempt to find savages who will obviously call it a Lie. Town can't be sure about it. This also depends on Parkers death note.

[FM Artaxerxes]

With this death note, we can attempt to find savages who will obviously call it a Lie. Town can't be sure about it. This also depends on Parkers article/last will.
fixed

[FM Leonardo]

It's too late in the game to try and stay neutral with it. Someone being blackmailed may reveal it in two days, but in two days after tonight, town WILL have lost majority. We can tell his alignment by how he reacts with it.

If we place Ryan in a Savage V Savage, he will likely wait until the last point until doing it. i.e. wait until hammer is on someone else, then putting it on there. Especially with the vote lock.
If it is Savage v Town or Town V Savage, he would have no reason not to vote him, except to hinder us. Would be expected to complete it day 2, but not at final point.


Reworded blackmail, unsure if the note sounds good.

Hello Ryan.
I think it's about time we targeted you. We are going to make things simple. You may be Savage and definitely look like a Savage. We want you to vote against players to make them look like they are innocent. You can be as convincing or not as you want. I suggest you be more convincing, or it will appear that you are lurking. Not good at this point in the game. It shouldn't be hard with the target we give you.

You may only show suspicion and vote against FM Green. You may not unvote, change your vote. You are not to contradict your suspicion against Green in a way that would make your posts unbelievable.

Going to look at a better choice for Savage than Green

My problem with picking a particular person for them to vote is that it clears that person of being mafia. At this point in the game, the last thing we want is to clear anyone but ourselves of being mafia. If Ryan is smart he'll just reveal the blackmail in order to save Green. He'll suicide, but he was likely to get lynched anyway, and his death will semi confirm someone as town. I just don't see this working out according to plan.

[FM Leonardo]

I think pressuring Leary tomorrow may be a good choice for a lynch.

Also how about a death note like this -

Hello town,

Just wanted to give you some more info from your fail mayor. He lied about the witching, our drug dealer acted elsewhere. I suspected he would lie, to try and catch me using it if I was scum so I'm using it tonight. Our other kill, Galloway will contain the rest of the death note.

I am thinking about changing Galloway, which clears you as not mafia...TO Leary, which clears him as not Mafia, but supports the Savage GF theory.
Thoughts?

I'm not sure about this... I don't see the point in calling the mayor a liar. Town knows he had no reason to lie. If we're going to use a death note, I think we're better off using it to communicate with the savages, but I don't really think we have much more to say to them at this point, so I'm not sure a death note is even worth it. And if we DO use a death note, I'd rather not single anyone out, because there's no way to be sure that town won't take it the opposite of how we intend it (ie. thinking it confirms galloway as mafia when we were hoping to clear him, or vice versa for someone like Leary)

I guess the takeaway here is that I believe we should play it safe from now on. We took a risk with the double kill and lost Buchwalter. Phelps and Dunn kind of got themselves caught... But at this point in the game, we're so close to victory and I don't want it screwed up by some gambit gone wrong.

[FM Artaxerxes]

My problem with picking a particular person for them to vote is that it clears that person of being mafia. At this point in the game, the last thing we want is to clear anyone but ourselves of being mafia. If Ryan is smart he'll just reveal the blackmail in order to save Green. He'll suicide, but he was likely to get lynched anyway, and his death will semi confirm someone as town. I just don't see this working out according to plan.
If he actually just suicided then that would be to our advantage. One less delta to worry about and it doesn't actually confirm Green. Just that we wanted him to vote against Green. If he was town/delta revealing the blackmail would be a terrible idea.

Well Savages have an advantage against us. If we play it safe, they will take the win. If Galloway reveals exec tomorrow it will make us appear even weaker. If he's lynched, than we HAVE to find the SGF.

[FM Artaxerxes]

We have to lynch get a lynch on the SGF soon or we are going to lose.

[FM Leonardo]

We have to lynch get a lynch on the SGF soon or we are going to lose.

I agree. That's why I think we should push the lynch on Green tomorrow. I'm pretty sure either him or Fontaine is the SGF. But if we put out a blackmail like that and confirm someone of not being mafia, the town will be less likely to lynch them, since now we are the smaller faction and are more easily destroyed (thus eliminating us is the quickest way to reduce the kpn, unless they lynch the savage gf).

Don't forget we can still kill them at night if we have to. Once we kill the Mayor tonight, all the rest of our targets will be either deltas or savages, so we can easily make them savages and then ride our apparent towniness to victory.

[FM Attila]

What happens to an neutral benign that is blackmailed and claims blackmailed?

[FM Artaxerxes]

Sure. Who do you think the Savages will target tonight?

If they attack me, we can confirm the student doctor thing. If they attack one of you guys, which is very likely we will be in a lot of trouble. I suspect they will attack Mason, since everyone thinks he is the escort.

[FM Artaxerxes]

I think tomorrow and on we will have to target the Savages. They probably have a invest again now and if I was them i'd have converted a sheriff.

[FM Leonardo]

Sure. Who do you think the Savages will target tonight?

If they attack me, we can confirm the student doctor thing. If they attack one of you guys, which is very likely we will be in a lot of trouble. I suspect they will attack Mason, since everyone thinks he is the escort.

They will attack Mason. Mason will block me. At first I thought the witch would force Mason to target Galloway, but something just occurred to me...

Galloway, didn't you lie about being witched once? I seem to remember you doing that a few days ago. If the witch picked up on it, she probably knows you're an ally. So I'm not sure who she'll witch Mason to. Perhaps Ryan. Or maybe on herself in an attempt to clear herself of being witch. Not that it matters at this point since town needs to reduce kpn before they can even think about killing the witch.

[FM Ferengi]

What happens to an neutral benign that is blackmailed and claims blackmailed?

An Epsilon who claims blackmailed becomes a jester. (Check blackmailer role card for reference).

[FM Leonardo]

I think tomorrow and on we will have to target the Savages. They probably have a invest again now and if I was them i'd have converted a sheriff.

Yeah, they definitely want to have an invest/sheriff combo. Then they'd know everyone's exact roles (more or less) which makes it easier for them to recruit/kill. However they could have failed in getting a second investigator/sheriff. We'll have to hope that's the case.

They did seem to know that Black was mason, but they might have found that out from Ballard and decided to just keep recruiting and hope Black got mislynched since people thought he was scummy anyway.

By the way we still need to compose a fake soma for me to use in case I need to claim enforcer. It's not necessarily urgent since I don't intend to claim tomorrow, but I'd like to have it just in case.

Also we need to decide on tonight's drug and blackmail.

[FM Leonardo]

An Epsilon who claims blackmailed becomes a jester. (Check blackmailer role card for reference).

Oh yeah, I forgot about this. Want to blackmail Earle and see if he becomes a jester? That would be hilarious.

[FM Artaxerxes]

After we kill Parker the roles of non us. We can assume that 3 of them are Savages.

Savage Godfather
[Hidden Epsilon]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D] - savage
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta -savage
Delta -savage
[Random Any] - Witch

3 of us. 4 of them. 8 town. 1 witch. 1 Possible neutral.

The epsilon could have been converted to the savages. If a epsilon counterclaims you Galloway, then we have to assume that he is a cult.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Yeah, they definitely want to have an invest/sheriff combo. Then they'd know everyone's exact roles (more or less) which makes it easier for them to recruit/kill. However they could have failed in getting a second investigator/sheriff. We'll have to hope that's the case.

They did seem to know that Black was mason, but they might have found that out from Ballard and decided to just keep recruiting and hope Black got mislynched since people thought he was scummy anyway.

By the way we still need to compose a fake soma for me to use in case I need to claim enforcer. It's not necessarily urgent since I don't intend to claim tomorrow, but I'd like to have it just in case.

Also we need to decide on tonight's drug and blackmail.
Actually Black was just acting like a mason. I think i posted earlier that I suspected he was a mason. I said enforcer though. Was surprised when he flipped club.

Since you guys don't think Kalou is a escort as I do. What about the possibility of a Savage. Everyone seems to just let her/him slide by even though she claimed TPR and then reclaimed Delta. Also I noted that Ryan has Kalou as the only one in his reads as always town. Everyone else he shows at least some suspicion. There is nothing that has confirmed Kalou as town so far. I have been keeping my reads on him as town because I dont want to draw attention.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Oh yeah, I forgot about this. Want to blackmail Earle and see if he becomes a jester? That would be hilarious.

Lol and gain us nothing....we could blackmail him to make a scumslip. like say a phrase thats very Earle like, but with a scum slip.

Post the following phrase only once exactly as it's written -

Earle wants to remind the mafia that he is a corrupt journalist and wins with them. Do not target Earle he wins with you. I will be interviewing FM Kalou tonight. Earle is very interested in what he has to say at night.

Hints at the end of sharing a night chat with Kalou and that he suspects him to be more than a Delta. Not really useful though, at all.

[FM Artaxerxes]

I'll be on and off until night end. So if your on just message me. We need to get our actions SET.

Currently -

Mendez Kill Parker - No deathnote?
Drug attack and healed Mason - Helps protect Galloway if he decides to do student doctor. Except than he will wonder why he healed Mason over Parker
Blackmail Ryan - blackmail I posted earlier. Basically forcing him to tunnel against Leary. I'm thinking Kalou may be a better choice though.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Actions are due in 4 hours. If you guys don't show up soon I'll just have to do it myself.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Kill Parker with Deathnote


PHELPS WAS THE FUCKING CONSORT! HE NEVER ROLE BLOCKED HIS OWN FUCKING GF, HOW DO YOU NOT SEE WHAT I AM ALREADY EVEN GALLOWAY FUCKING KNOWS WHAT I AM. YOU ARE FUCKING BLIND BY SUCH SIMPLE THINGS. LYNCH ME NOW AND END THIS FUCKING GAME I'M SICK OF YOUR IGNORANCE TO SEE THE OBVIOUS. YOU NEED TO LEARN AGAIN. YOU DO GREAT IN S-FM BUT APPARENTLY YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT AS A TOWN MAYOR IN A BIG FM. ALSO WHY WOULD MASON FAKE A BLACKMAIL. WHY WOULD DUNN SAY "OK WE WILL BLACKMAIL YOU" ONLY A FUCKING MAFIA WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I'M FUCKIGN DONE HERE LYNCH ME AND SEE HOW BAD YOU ARE AT SEEING SIMPLE THINGS RIGHT NOW. I HOPE THE SCUMS LET YOU LIVE SO YOU CAN WALLOW IN IT. I HOPE THEY FUCKING LYNCH YOU JUST FOR HILARITY OR LET YOU BE THE LAST FUCKING TOWN. OR EVEN BETTER THE MAFIA BLACKMAILS YOU SO YOU LEARN ABOUT YOUR INCOMPETENCE. YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT I AM BY NOW AND THE FACT THAT YOU CAN'T SEE 2 FEET IN FRONT OF YOU IS PATHETIC. I AM DONE HERE.

Host I'm ready to join dead chat.

I WANTED TO DO THIS SO BAD

[FM Artaxerxes]

FM Leonardo Blackmail FM Ryan

I think it's about time we targeted you. We are going to make things simple. We know your role but town does not and they think you are scum. We want you to vote against players to make them look like they are innocent. You can be as convincing or not as you want. I suggest you be more convincing, or it will appear that you are lurking. Not good at this point in the game and with the town probably hunting you. It shouldn't be hard with the target we give you.

You may only show suspicion and vote against FM Green. You may not unvote, change your vote. You are not to contradict your suspicion against FM Green in a way that would make your posts unbelievable.

Fm Attilla - Please come back soon. I'm thinking about copying the blackmail OR faking a roleblock to discredit Mason. If we can figure out who we think Mason will target, then we can negate feedback on them as well.
Is the blackmail approved?

[FM Leonardo]

I'm here. Hold on. Reading everything.

[FM Leonardo]

Attacked and healed is a waste. They'll know immediately that it was a DD, especially if both us and the savages kill successfully. Might be better to drug no feedback to people we think might be savages. If they have another invest or a sheriff, we might hit them and prevent savages from gaining some information. I honestly think that's our best bet right now as far as the drugs go.

[FM Attila]

Attacked and healed = no good
Agree with Leo

[FM Leonardo]

I still don't like the blackmail... It confirms that Ryan AND Green are not mafia, and I don't think it will really help us to have one extra vote on Green. Plus, keep in mind he has two days to do it, so he probably won't even do it until day 10. Although maybe that's better since Ackerman will probably be lynched tomorrow anyway.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Attacked and healed is a waste. They'll know immediately that it was a DD, especially if both us and the savages kill successfully. Might be better to drug no feedback to people we think might be savages. If they have another invest or a sheriff, we might hit them and prevent savages from gaining some information. I honestly think that's our best bet right now as far as the drugs go.

Okay. And I removed the part saying it's too Ryan in case we want to use the drug dealer to do a double blackmail.

Lol, this is just random but the blackmail and drug could be -

You must type in all Caps and only about how bad the mayor was and how he deserves LVP.

lloolol.

I agree with the prevent feedback. But who? Do you think Kalou may be a good target? He claimed a power role before and is now hiding behind Delta. Or we can go after one of the savages that we all agree on.

You guys come at the last minute @_@

[FM Artaxerxes]

Well we can make Galloway fake blackmail if we have to and an obvious one like the one above.

[FM Leonardo]

If Attila likes the blackmail task, I'll do it, but I'm going to rewrite it to make it more concise (I don't think we need the "it's time we targeted you" bit) and try to make it airtight.

[FM Leonardo]

Okay. And I removed the part saying it's too Ryan in case we want to use the drug dealer to do a double blackmail.

Lol, this is just random but the blackmail and drug could be -

You must type in all Caps and only about how bad the mayor was and how he deserves LVP.

lloolol.

I agree with the prevent feedback. But who? Do you think Kalou may be a good target? He claimed a power role before and is now hiding behind Delta. Or we can go after one of the savages that we all agree on.

You guys come at the last minute @_@

lol sorry about that. It seems like when I check in during the day no one posts, then I come in a bit before night ends and it's like "OMG PANIC MODE".


Well we can make Galloway fake blackmail if we have to and an obvious one like the one above.

[FM Ferengi]

FM Leonardo Blackmail FM Ryan

I think it's about time we targeted you. We are going to make things simple. We know your role but town does not and they think you are scum. We want you to vote against players to make them look like they are innocent. You can be as convincing or not as you want. I suggest you be more convincing, or it will appear that you are lurking. Not good at this point in the game and with the town probably hunting you. It shouldn't be hard with the target we give you.

You may only show suspicion and vote against FM Green. You may not unvote, change your vote. You are not to contradict your suspicion against FM Green in a way that would make your posts unbelievable.

Fm Attilla - Please come back soon. I'm thinking about copying the blackmail OR faking a roleblock to discredit Mason. If we can figure out who we think Mason will target, then we can negate feedback on them as well.
Is the blackmail approved?

No. The note is worded ambiguously.

Suggested changes:

The only person whom you may vote against or express suspicion against is FM Green.

The second sentence is another task unless you reword it further.

[FM Attila]

I was working for six hours.

Kill Parker
DD Roleblock immune to Mason/Witched feedback to Ackermann
Blackmail Ryan " use vote tags to Vote for FM Green on day 10. Failure to do so shall result in death."

[FM Leonardo]

Woops. Meant to respond to the second quote. Uh, yeah. If we do that, maybe I can send a blackmail like the all caps one you suggested, and then Galloway and my target will both be doing it on day 10. Only problem is that if our DD hits savage tonight, when Galloway fakes blackmailed, they'll know either he or the guy who is actually blackmailed is mafia (or they'll think we got soma somehow... lol.)

[FM Attila]

Woops. Meant to respond to the second quote. Uh, yeah. If we do that, maybe I can send a blackmail like the all caps one you suggested, and then Galloway and my target will both be doing it on day 10. Only problem is that if our DD hits savage tonight, when Galloway fakes blackmailed, they'll know either he or the guy who is actually blackmailed is mafia (or they'll think we got soma somehow... lol.)

DD can be used as an explanation since everyone knows we have one

[FM Leonardo]

I was working for six hours.

Kill Parker
DD Roleblock immune to Mason/Witched feedback to Ackermann
Blackmail Ryan " use vote tags to Vote for FM Green on day 10. Failure to do so shall result in death."

can't specify day 10. Otherwise, it's basically Art's. Since you seem to like that one, I guess I can rewrite it. But I did kind of think you should claim bmed soon, Galloway. It'll be suspicious that you, me, and Mendez haven't been hit since we are clearly the leaders besides parker.

[FM Attila]

can't specify day 10. Otherwise, it's basically Art's. Since you seem to like that one, I guess I can rewrite it. But I did kind of think you should claim bmed soon, Galloway. It'll be suspicious that you, me, and Mendez haven't been hit since we are clearly the leaders besides parker.

I'm gonna fake BM tomorrow.

[FM Leonardo]

DD can be used as an explanation since everyone knows we have one

I know. The town will buy that. I'm saying savages will know because if we hit their investigator, for example, they will know their invest was feedback blocked tonight, which means there couldn't also be a drug blackmail sent tonight.

[FM Leonardo]

I'm gonna fake BM tomorrow.

That won't make sense though. Town knows I couldn't send a bm last night. which means I will send it tonight. Which means you'll be doing it on day 1 of the bm. Unless you have an explanation prepared for why you are doing it on the first day.

[FM Attila]

That won't make sense though. Town knows I couldn't send a bm last night. which means I will send it tonight. Which means you'll be doing it on day 1 of the bm. Unless you have an explanation prepared for why you are doing it on the first day.

Hm.

[FM Artaxerxes]

I'm gonna fake BM tomorrow.

Cool. We have to think of a good BM then. I think we should use the drug dealer to prevent feedback then. If they see two blackmails and a suspicious feedback they will know someone is faking.

Leo you are serious about that second blackmail? Please do.

For the drug dealer -
Prevent feedback on - Leary, Green, Ackerman?
We can't roleblock if Attila is faking the blackmail, same with 2nd witch. it would be too risky.

Blackmail - Obv blackmail so Attila can be obviously blackmailed. We should word it in a way to make people want to claim it first day. Also Attila, you have to act your blackmail BEFORE the other person. If people see him do it before you, they will assume you are copying him.

His explanation for doing it 1st day is that he needs the next day to explain Parkers article. He doesn't have time to wait out 2 days and do it. (while we know this is not true, town does not. If someone calls him out on this, then he can reveal his defense. I think people will be more worried about him breaking the blackmail. i.e. We can say to anyone asking him questions - Are you trying to make him suicide? Scummy.)

[FM Leonardo]

ok. Re written blackmail

"You may only express suspicion for FM Green. You may not accuse any other players of being scum, having a night chat, performing actions that can be performed by scum roles (including those that may also be performed by town roles), or anything else that can be labeled as scummy. You may not quote or link to posts from players other than Green. You may not vote for any players other than FM Green."

I think that covers it. This is a long shot, but I'll ask anyway- Can a blackmail task be "Get X player lynched?" and if so, will the blackmailed player be punished if the target is not lynched?

[FM Artaxerxes]

ok. Re written blackmail

"You may only express suspicion for FM Green. You may not accuse any other players of being scum, having a night chat, performing actions that can be performed by scum roles (including those that may also be performed by town roles), or anything else that can be labeled as scummy. You may not quote or link to posts from players other than Green. You may not vote for any players other than FM Green."

I think that covers it. This is a long shot, but I'll ask anyway- Can a blackmail task be "Get X player lynched?" and if so, will the blackmailed player be punished if the target is not lynched?

Will Galloway be performing this blackmail as well or a more...obvious one? I think he can do it subtly, and me or you can ask him a question and just be ignored.

For example
Galloway how do you defend yourself on the matter?
-No response about it, just tunnelling on Green.

Ask few more times, Galloway post right after us, but only about Green. Obv blackmailed. Can't be mafia. He still might get lynched as a possible Savage though.

[FM Leonardo]

Will Galloway be performing this blackmail as well or a more...obvious one? I think he can do it subtly, and me or you can ask him a question and just be ignored.

For example
Galloway how do you defend yourself on the matter?
-No response about it, just tunnelling on Green.

Ask few more times, Galloway post right after us, but only about Green. Obv blackmailed. Can't be mafia. He still might get lynched as a possible Savage though.

Galloway shouldn't do a blackmail tomorrow unless he can come up with a good reason why he would do the blackmail on the first day instead of the second. Otherwise he should wait until day 10.

[FM Attila]

I think Leo is right about this.

[FM Ferengi]

ok. Re written blackmail

"You may only express suspicion for FM Green. You may not accuse any other players of being scum, having a night chat, performing actions that can be performed by scum roles (including those that may also be performed by town roles), or anything else that can be labeled as scummy. You may not quote or link to posts from players other than Green. You may not vote for any players other than FM Green."

I think that covers it. This is a long shot, but I'll ask anyway- Can a blackmail task be "Get X player lynched?" and if so, will the blackmailed player be punished if the target is not lynched?

No.

[FM Leonardo]

Anyway, we have 31 minutes and 59 seconds before the 1 second warning from the hosts to lock in night actions. So we should decide quickly.

[FM Attila]

Anyway, we have 31 minutes and 59 seconds before the 1 second warning from the hosts to lock in night actions. So we should decide quickly.

-_-

Anyone dislike my suggestion earlier?

[FM Artaxerxes]

Galloway shouldn't do a blackmail tomorrow unless he can come up with a good reason why he would do the blackmail on the first day instead of the second. Otherwise he should wait until day 10.

I still think you are too hung up on the weakness of the blackmail that only we are aware of. No one in town has exploited it yet so we are just handicapping our blackmails. If Galloway does it on the second day, and then the other guy sees they are doing the same blackmail, he will find out about the weakness.

The blackmail looks good. If we are still targeting Ryan i'd like to wait and see how he posts today. I think he will still try not to break the blackmail, even though he could and do it day 2. That's for Galloway btw.


@Attilla
Immune to roleblock is no good. It wouldn't make any sense.

I think we should do a feedback block. Fake witch won't really gain us much, where the feedback block might surpress the savages. If they reveal it it will be great for us.

[FM Attila]

Makes no difference either way but lets do it

Mendez Kill Parker
Donnelly blackmail Ryan with [spoiler=blackmail message]"You may only express suspicion for FM Green. You may not accuse any other players of being scum, having a night chat, performing actions that can be performed by scum roles (including those that may also be performed by town roles), or anything else that can be labeled as scummy. You may not quote or link to posts from players other than Green. You may not vote for any players other than FM Green."[/spoiler
Galloway drug No Feedback to Leary

[FM Leonardo]

I still think you are too hung up on the weakness of the blackmail that only we are aware of. No one in town has exploited it yet so we are just handicapping our blackmails. If Galloway does it on the second day, and then the other guy sees they are doing the same blackmail, he will find out about the weakness.

The blackmail looks good. If we are still targeting Ryan i'd like to wait and see how he posts today. I think he will still try not to break the blackmail, even though he could and do it day 2. That's for Galloway btw.


@Attilla
Immune to roleblock is no good. It wouldn't make any sense.

I think we should do a feedback block. Fake witch won't really gain us much, where the feedback block might surpress the savages. If they reveal it it will be great for us.

Uh... Town has said on multiple occasions that anyone who is blackmailed should wait until the second day. And it's in my role card, which has been quoted at day several times now... So that's not something "only we know"

[FM Artaxerxes]

Ok. Night actions look fine. Let's plan for tomorrow day.

Galloway, Parker's article will likely incriminate you as the fake doctor.

You are going to claim executioner on Lichtmann? If so -

If no one believes it and you are up for the lynch - What do you plan on doing?
Suggestions - Claim your blackmail, use it as proof that you are not Mafia. Your actions on hunting savages are proof that you are actually town.

Somehow you need a good explanation why you told Parker you were a doctor. You could claim there was some mistake in the coded messages you were sending and that you actualyl claimed - some other role. If Parker explains the code in his Article than you can obvious not do this.

Distance us or should we go all in and try to keep you alive? I think we might have to. I don't want to be obvious, but we need you to stay alive if we plan on beating the Savages.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Uh... Town has said on multiple occasions that anyone who is blackmailed should wait until the second day. And it's in my role card, which has been quoted at day several times now... So that's not something "only we know"

You are mistaking me. I mean the fact only we know that a bm victim can CHOOSE which day to complete the blackmail. i.e. they can go against the blackmail on the first day and then complete it the 2nd. That is not stated in your blackmail or in the FAQ.

[FM Attila]

I'm gonna go all in with claiming doc to parker and using his trust to damage lichtmanns status and let the mayor go to town on him. All this in my first post. I'll claim blackmailed and past the message in my first post and be like LOL Mafia. I already won. If thsi turns me into a jester I'm just gonna trololololol and take a backseat.

[FM Artaxerxes]

I'm gonna go all in with claiming doc to parker and using his trust to damage lichtmanns status and let the mayor go to town on him. All this in my first post. I'll claim blackmailed and past the message in my first post and be like LOL Mafia. I already won. If thsi turns me into a jester I'm just gonna trololololol and take a backseat.

Lol i like it. Savages may not believe your hidden epsilon claim if they converted him, but they wouldn't reveal a savage to lynch you I think.

If the Mayor doesn't reveal you, then you can just play standard and call town dumbfucks for lynching Lichtmann

[FM Leonardo]

This was bugging me. So I fixed it.


Makes no difference either way but lets do it

Mendez Kill Parker
Donnelly blackmail Ryan with the message contained in this spoiler: You may only express suspicion for FM Green. You may not accuse any other players of being scum, having a night chat, performing actions that can be performed by scum roles (including those that may also be performed by town roles), or anything else that can be labeled as scummy. You may not quote or link to posts from players other than Green. You may not vote for any players other than FM Green.
Galloway drug No Feedback to Leary

Is this an acceptable blackmail?

[FM Artaxerxes]

I'm gonna miss the mayor...He was so easy to manipulate :(


Also, do you guys want me to remove the Deathnote that is just Lichtmanns ragespam? I have to make it clear that I am, or they will do it.

[FM Leonardo]

If the Mayor doesn't reveal you, then you can just play standard and call town dumb[bleeps] for lynching Lichtmann

FTFY. lol Galloway.

[FM Leonardo]

I'm gonna miss the mayor...He was so easy to manipulate :(


Also, do you guys want me to remove the Deathnote that is just Lichtmanns ragespam? I have to make it clear that I am, or they will do it.

I'll miss him too. A moment of silence for the mayor.

[FM Leonardo]

Silence

[FM Attila]

silence

[FM Ferengi]

This was bugging me. So I fixed it.



Is this an acceptable blackmail?

No.

[FM Leonardo]

Moment is up. We don't need a death note. #yolo

[FM Leonardo]

No.

:|

Care to elaborate?

[FM Attila]

I wont really miss him. He was catching on way to fast and he wouldn't take any chances on the whole Savages need to go buisness. Instead he just decided to derp around his own town members and lynch anyone that looked good. It wasn't even funny to see him skert around the savage potentials like he did.

Parker: HEY THIS GUY CLAIMED WIITCHED AND HE SAID HE WAS DOC. LETS LYNCH HIM BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE CLAIMED DOC AND THIS GUY IS CALLING ME A MORON. LETS NOT FOCUS ON THE THREAT OF THE SAVAGES NOW THAT WE HAVE MAFIA PRETTY MUCH DOWN, LETS JUST LYNCH THIS RANDOM GUY WHO DOESN'T LIKE ME


-_-

[FM Leonardo]

I wont really miss him. He was catching on way to fast and he wouldn't take any chances on the whole Savages need to go buisness. Instead he just decided to derp around his own town members and lynch anyone that looked good. It wasn't even funny to see him skert around the savage potentials like he did.

Parker: HEY THIS GUY CLAIMED WIITCHED AND HE SAID HE WAS DOC. LETS LYNCH HIM BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE CLAIMED DOC AND THIS GUY IS CALLING ME A MORON. LETS NOT FOCUS ON THE THREAT OF THE SAVAGES NOW THAT WE HAVE MAFIA PRETTY MUCH DOWN, LETS JUST LYNCH THIS RANDOM GUY WHO DOESN'T LIKE ME


-_-

Yeah, we know he was derpy... That's why we'll miss him! lol

[FM Attila]

Mendez Kill Parker
Donnelly blackmail Ryan with the message contained in this spoiler:

You may only express suspicion for FM Green in all of your posts.

Galloway drug No Feedback to Leary


Would that BM Message be a-okay?

[FM Artaxerxes]

Silence

[FM Artaxerxes]

FM Mendez Kill FM Parker
FM Donnelly blackmail FM Ryan
The only person whom you may vote against or express suspicion against is FM Green.
FM Galloway drug no feedback to FM Leary

Changing it to something Switzerland already suggested.

[FM Ferengi]

Accepted Night Actions:
FM Mendez: Kill Parker with Deathnote


PHELPS WAS THE FUCKING CONSORT! HE NEVER ROLE BLOCKED HIS OWN FUCKING GF, HOW DO YOU NOT SEE WHAT I AM ALREADY EVEN GALLOWAY FUCKING KNOWS WHAT I AM. YOU ARE FUCKING BLIND BY SUCH SIMPLE THINGS. LYNCH ME NOW AND END THIS FUCKING GAME I'M SICK OF YOUR IGNORANCE TO SEE THE OBVIOUS. YOU NEED TO LEARN AGAIN. YOU DO GREAT IN S-FM BUT APPARENTLY YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT AS A TOWN MAYOR IN A BIG FM. ALSO WHY WOULD MASON FAKE A BLACKMAIL. WHY WOULD DUNN SAY "OK WE WILL BLACKMAIL YOU" ONLY A FUCKING MAFIA WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I'M FUCKIGN DONE HERE LYNCH ME AND SEE HOW BAD YOU ARE AT SEEING SIMPLE THINGS RIGHT NOW. I HOPE THE SCUMS LET YOU LIVE SO YOU CAN WALLOW IN IT. I HOPE THEY FUCKING LYNCH YOU JUST FOR HILARITY OR LET YOU BE THE LAST FUCKING TOWN. OR EVEN BETTER THE MAFIA BLACKMAILS YOU SO YOU LEARN ABOUT YOUR INCOMPETENCE. YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT I AM BY NOW AND THE FACT THAT YOU CAN'T SEE 2 FEET IN FRONT OF YOU IS PATHETIC. I AM DONE HERE.

Host I'm ready to join dead chat.

I WANTED TO DO THIS SO BAD (#116)

FM Donnelly: blackmail Ryan with the message contained in this spoiler: You may only express suspicion for FM Green. You may not accuse any other players of being scum, having a night chat, performing actions that can be performed by scum roles (including those that may also be performed by town roles), or anything else that can be labeled as scummy. You may not quote or link to posts from players other than Green. You may not vote for any players other than FM Green. (#150) [Blackmail not accepted since the second to last sentence is a separate task]

FM Galloway: drug No Feedback to Leary (#144)

[FM Artaxerxes]

Lol. Looks like death note went through anyways. hurdurr.

The night actions look good, actually.

[FM Attila]

Donnelly needs to come say hey I consent to using the mednez suggested plan of action

[FM Attila]

unless we are too late

[FM Ferengi]

Deadline already passed. Sorry guys, but I warned you earlier.

[FM Attila]

Deadline already passed. Sorry guys, but I warned you earlier.

It;s alright. I like the system you are using and you warned us way ahead of time so its all good.
:)

[FM Artaxerxes]

It;s alright. I like the system you are using and you warned us way ahead of time so its all good.
:)

BUDDYIGN WITH SWITZERLAND. SCUMTELL

[FM Leonardo]

It;s alright. I like the system you are using and you warned us way ahead of time so its all good.
:)

*cough* suck up *cough* *cough*

[FM Leonardo]

I think I'll just make our kills from now on. Trying to actually use my role is all work and no payoff.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Okay. Let's get srs. I won't be posting at start of day, because it would be a complete change to how i've been acting the past days. I'll go to bed right before it starts.

Savages -

Ryan
Green
Leary - unsure. distanced from other savages.
*Kalou? - My suspect, unsure if true. I suspect Leary may not be, because he is always siding with Donnelly and I. While Ryan is usually claiming Leary and Green as town.

From a Savage perspective, they are likely maxed out. I think they will go after Mason tonight. Which is good for us. The following day, I suspect one of us will be targeted. Just because of our activity in day chat.

@Leo, what am I gonna do then. :P I think we should definitely consider

[FM Leonardo]

@Leo, what am I gonna do then. :P I think we should definitely consider

I'm just frustrated. I hate having to ask for approval for everything. It takes the 46 hours we have and says "LOLNOPE" and nothing happens.

Anyway, I'm starting my summer job really early tomorrow, morning so I have to go to bed, like, an hour ago. I also probably won't post until around 18 hours into day since I'm going to wake up and go straight to work, so that'll be fun.

Good luck tomorrow, boys. Don't get lynched and stuff.

[FM Artaxerxes]

Contingency plans -

Mendez is roleblocked - Chances - Very low

Huge problem. Parker is still alive. Galloway will need to perform some crazy manipulations to keep himself off the lynch. Donnelly and Myself will probably have
to distance ourselves from him in this scenario.

Galloway claim exec. Knew Licht was a power role but unsure of what. Was waiting for right moment to put the pressure on so he could blend or turn jester. Possibly
claim that your first target was Carruthers. *Or someone that Galloway was focusing against that died. More believable if Licht was suddenly your new target.



Donnelly or Galloway is Roleblocked - chances- very low

Not much is lost here. Lol


Savages kill Donnelly - Chances - possible, but unlikely.

Donnelly has been pretty active and I think claimed Delta. Savages will probably expect a TPR to hide amongst Deltas and target you. The blackmail would be
canceled. Donnelly has posted that myself and Galloway are both likely town in his reads so it could be bad. Except everyone thought you were town and us, so
we can just deny.

Savages kill Galloway - Chances - Possible
Galloway has been shown to be a smart player, and there has been confusion about his ROLE. Parker is an idiot and told everyone that you are indeed a Delta, which
everyone should realize is bad wifom. i.e. everyone that doesn't suck balls.

This saves us from having to defend him hard and lets Donnelly and myself be safe to hunt Savages with little suspicion on us. Will keep town confused. We have to kill
or lynch the SGF if this happens, or if Donnelly is killed.

Savages do not kill or double kill parker

Could be good. Savages kill Parker means more town to side with us against them.

Savages attack Mendez
I am unsure. What should I claim? I think I am a likely target for the savages to attack. I have been pretty pro town and silencing me will help them control the days conversation.
I can't claim attack and healed with the doctor just dying. Perhaps blacksmith vest? Lol. Let me know what you guys think.

Perhaps I should just not claim it at all and just say "looks like Savages recruited again last night".


Any other continginces we should be looking out for?

[FM Artaxerxes]

uh guess im sleeping. GL Galloway. I'll try to back u up after class.