S-FM 86: Plane Crash

[Titus]

S-FM: Plane Crash




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Day 1

Fearing the psychic, Titus had the flight take off earlier. However, it was all for naught. Your plane still wound up crashing in the middle of a forest. Titus gave you accurate directions to a nearby cabin. The cabin, Titus believed, would have medical supplies in the Doctor's cabin. She was right. However, it took the argumentative group too long to get to the cabin. Titus bled out. Due to unknown reasons, the sky was very bright outside, as if it was day. Titus warns you that this "day" effect will likely last 24 hours.

Before her death, Titus explained some things to you. The tail of the plane separated from the rear. The tail is where the reservists were. They've separated and started a chaotic search for the cabin. They may replace people who unexpectedly die (OOC: or need to be replaced). The main cabin has a bunch of supplies for surviving until a rescue crew arrives. You'll actually need them.

Cellphones and radios are not working. The plane took out the nearby cell tower. The cell tower collapsed into the river water, electrifying it. The risk to get across is too dangerous. The cliff behind the cabin, pictured above, is too high to climb, even for the most skilled people.

The objects, laid out on the center of the dining room table are as follows:

"A Guide to Remembering Who You Are And What You're Good At" By We Forgot Enterprises (Amnesiac)
"How to Force People to See Others" By The Confidence Man (Manipulator/Witch)
"How to Fake Being Someone Else" By Imposter Publishing (Copycat)
"How to Stop People from Being Idiots: The Sleepwalker's Guide" By Guiding Light Publishing (Escort/Consort)
A set of keys to a bunch of traps (Jailor/Kidnapper)
A map to hidden dossiers of other players (Sheriff)
A Bow and Arrow (Vigilante)
A Camera and electronic guides to broadcasting to cabin bedrooms (Journalist)
A box of medical supplies and drugs (Doctor)

The group has agreed that each person gets one item (role). You've decided to use scratch paper (PMs to Titus, which stay confidential) to vote.

Do remember to check the rules. Titus became a billionaire by attention to rules.

Full Flight Rules (Setup) is here (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/19954-S-FM-Popular-Vote-Plane-Crash)


Confirmed Sign-Ups


Sinclair
Damus_Graves
powerofdeath
Orpz
Hypersniper
Marill
42shadow42
Poriomania
ypmagic





How to vote

You are required to send in a confidential vote to Titus to assign roles. An example ballot is below. Note, all players MUST be given a role. They are due one hour before night time begins.

Player 1: Amnesiac
Player 2: Copycat
Player 3: Jailor
Player 4: Sheriff

so on and so forth. Again, who voted for each person having what role is confidential until the end of the game.


Day 1 has begun. Day 1 ends at this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=6%2F1%2F2013+6%3A00+PM+PST). Night 1 begins at the same time.

[Orpz]

I have placed my votes, AFK

[ypmagic]

AFK. No lynch day GG. Waiting till Day 2

[Damus_Graves]

Hello. Goodbye. Im not talking for the rest of today {Today not in game today} and shall be back at some other time

[M-FM Marill]

NO ONE AFK!!!

Neutral should claim.
We should all vote the Journalist onto him.
Journalist is of no harm to town, and the information will be helpful regardless of who it clicks or who wields it. Mafia will also not be inclined to kill him since the journalist is vulnerable to deception.
We should then simply ask the Journeutral to make sure to keep acting to grant us the articles.
This helps the neutral by making them a non-issue for anyone, and doesn't let something heavily detrimental fall into the hands of someone non-town.
This increases the chances that mafia gets the
Vigilante
Manipulator
Escort
But should they get 2 of these we will hold onto the Amnesiac and Copycat to contest them.

I expect the mafia members to vote vigilante onto themselves, and suggest we all do so to cause a tiebreaker.
I am not sure which of the other power roles the mafia will try to give their partner, but manipulator and escort are what I expect.
The mafia can disregard their night action to kill, so I think it is safe to say the Jailor role won't be selected, and will, infact, be a Town member.

Sheriff
Doctor
Amnesiac
Journalist
All of these have no reason being voted onto themselves by a mafia member, and should be considered town.

Jailor
Copycat
These are moderately possible, but seem more town.

Vigilante
Manipulator
Escort
Are the roles that the mafia will look to vote onto themselves.


I suggest we
1: vote ourselves as vigilante
2: vote someone we expect to not be mafia as manipulator (check the afkers, as this is the most detrimental day of the game, unlike most troll days)
3: vote people we do NOT trust Sheriff and Doctor. Roles truly useless to the Mafia.


Any other thoughts? Or am I going to be the only post today xD

[Orpz]

M-FM Marill

tellin' me I shouldn't afk and shit

[Poriomania]

dictating people is dumb

[Poriomania]

M-FM Marill

tellin' me I shouldn't afk and shit
We can vote on a no lynch day?

[Titus]

We can vote on a no lynch day?

I didn't say this, but questions are supposed to be in green. [color ="00ff00"]Question Text[/ color] (no spaces)

You are perfectly allowed to vote on a no lynch day. Even if all of you vote to lynch the same person, it will have no effect.

[Poriomania]

Coolio.

[color ="00ff00"]-vote FM Marill[/ color]

[Poriomania]

Welped that up.

-vote FM Marill

[ypmagic]

I hate pokemon.

M-FM Marill

[Orpz]

Welped that up.

-vote FM Marill

[ vote]M-FM Marill[/vote]

[Orpz]

I hate pokemon.

M-FM Marill

welcome back ypmagic

[powerofdeath]

Neutral here, Ill take the journalist ^.^

[powerofdeath]

Neutral here, Ill take the journalist ^.^

Let hope journalist is tomorrow

[ypmagic]

Alright now im sure powerofdeath is mafia.

powerofdeath

[Poriomania]

Why?

[ypmagic]

Are the Seperatists allowed to kill Night 1?

[Titus]

Are the Seperatists allowed to kill Night 1?

Yes, if their role provides for killing.

[ypmagic]

This ia really dangerous.

#1. Powerofdeath is lying, therefoe he is a Seperatist.
#2. Marill is suspicious.

[Sinclair]

Hi guys. Sending vote in.

Night.

[Poriomania]

If powerofdeath claims neutral and there's no CC, then I don't see why he's a Seperatist.

I do agree on Marill being suspicious, though.

[powerofdeath]

Alright now im sure powerofdeath is mafia.

powerofdeath


No day one vote dummy
You dislike me for meta reasons

[powerofdeath]

This ia really dangerous.

#1. Powerofdeath is lying, therefoe he is a Seperatist.
#2. Marill is suspicious.

Why would I lie? Are you ccing me AGAIN?

[powerofdeath]

People should wait til near the end of the day to vote, that way people can analyze who they think deserve what. We dont want to just randomly hand mafia the roles they want

[Orpz]

I do agree on Marill being suspicious, though.

elaborate

[Poriomania]

I don't like how he comes in with his first post and starts to dictate the game.

[ypmagic]

Guess what. Theres only one true neutral and I am the neutral. Here comes powerofdeath claiming the neutral. 2 neutrals is not possible.

[42shadow42]

elaborate




Neutral should claim.
We should all vote the Journalist onto him.

Journalist is of no harm to town, and the information will be helpful regardless of who it clicks or who wields it. Mafia will also not be inclined to kill him since the journalist is vulnerable to deception.
We should then simply ask the Journeutral to make sure to keep acting to grant us the articles.
This helps the neutral by making them a non-issue for anyone, and doesn't let something heavily detrimental fall into the hands of someone non-town.
No harm here.

This increases the chances that mafia gets the
Vigilante
Manipulator
Escort
But should they get 2 of these we will hold onto the Amnesiac and Copycat to contest them.

I expect the mafia members to vote vigilante onto themselves, and suggest we all do so to cause a tiebreaker.
I am not sure which of the other power roles the mafia will try to give their partner, but manipulator and escort are what I expect.
The mafia can disregard their night action to kill, so I think it is safe to say the Jailor role won't be selected, and will, infact, be a Town member.

WTF? Although mafia haven't had a night to plan this voting plan is not helpful, human intuition will provide better results.

Sheriff
Doctor
Amnesiac
Journalist
All of these have no reason being voted onto themselves by a mafia member, and should be considered town.

Jailor
Copycat
These are moderately possible, but seem more town.

Vigilante
Manipulator
Escort
Are the roles that the mafia will look to vote onto themselves.


I suggest we
1: vote ourselves as vigilante Never
2: vote someone we expect to not be mafia as manipulator (check the afkers, as this is the most detrimental day of the game, unlike most troll days) Duh?
3: vote people we do NOT trust Sheriff and Doctor. Roles truly useless to the Mafia. Amnesiac seems more prudent, we want one doc or sheriff on our side.


Any other thoughts? Or am I going to be the only post today xD

My thoughts in general, your plan sucks.

[Poriomania]

Guess what. Theres only one true neutral and I am the neutral. Here comes powerofdeath claiming the neutral. 2 neutrals is not possible.

gambits ahoy

[42shadow42]

My votes so far...
ypmagic - Journalist
PoD - Amnesiac

[Orpz]

I don't like how he comes in with his first post and starts to dictate the game.

eh agree for his first sentence but as per the rest,
suggestions =/= demands

[Orpz]

We should lynch between neutrals or vigilante them if we get one. If you're town and wifoming, retract now

[42shadow42]

We should lynch between neutrals or vigilante them if we get one. If you're town and wifoming, retract now

Agreed.

[Poriomania]

/barn the vig neutral plan.

I don't want to deal with a dichotomy, because then we lose like, two days worth of behavior + vote analysis?

[powerofdeath]

Guess what. Theres only one true neutral and I am the neutral. Here comes powerofdeath claiming the neutral. 2 neutrals is not possible.

Lol, i got the neutral to reveal for you guys

Im actually town (:

[42shadow42]

Lol, i got the neutral to reveal for you guys

Im actually town (:

My votes still stand.

[powerofdeath]

My votes still stand.

Voting me to be amnesaic? Lol alright

[Orpz]

Yay PoD :) I have to take a break from the computer for a little bit, but I have some questions:

What is everyone's opinion of me voting before I made my first post?
What is everyone's opinion of Sinclair doing that and actually afking?
Why did Marill bail out after making a post that was controversial?

btw Town-sided Amnesiac is good to have

[42shadow42]

Yay PoD :) I have to take a break from the computer for a little bit, but I have some questions:

What is everyone's opinion of me voting before I made my first post?
What is everyone's opinion of Sinclair doing that and actually afking?
Why did Marill bail out after making a post that was controversial?

btw Town-sided Amnesiac is good to have
Yes, but on the mafia side, its good too, as long as we know who gets it. So we pick someone who like PoD who we can't really trust, if he takes a mafia aligned role without the towns prior approval he is lynched.

[powerofdeath]

Yay PoD :) I have to take a break from the computer for a little bit, but I have some questions:

What is everyone's opinion of me voting before I made my first post?
Trolling day one, trying to get attention, probably town
What is everyone's opinion of Sinclair doing that and actually afking?
Hes could be lurking, but the day just started
Why did Marill bail out after making a post that was controversial?
Day just started but if he does not post soon enough, i will start to be more suspicious about him

btw Town-sided Amnesiac is good to have

What do you guys think of ypmafic neutral claim?

[42shadow42]

What do you guys think of ypmafic neutral claim?

I think it's legit, and hes picking a tentative side of town. If he was true neutral and currently mafia aligned he would have said nothing. If he was mafia he would have said nothing, if he was town he would have said nothing.

[Poriomania]

It's optimal play to reveal as neutral on Day 1, so he's fine.

I don't trust him, though.

[Orpz]

It's optimal play to reveal as neutral on Day 1, so he's fine.

I don't trust him, though.

Who do you trust?

[Orpz]

I trust PoD and 42.
Mafia benefits none from being in a contested role position, even if retracted almost immediately.
42 is good ol' 42.

[Poriomania]

Currently no one right now except myself.

I need to hunt down town reads.

[ypmagic]

Lol, i got the neutral to reveal for you guys

Im actually town (:

I really just wanted to stay hidden so I could've seen how the game went.

[Orpz]

Forming own thoughts is a town tell.
I also trust Poriomania now.

[Orpz]

Sinclair
Damus_Graves
powerofdeath
Orpz
Hypersniper
Marill
42shadow42
Poriomania
ypmagic

this is the confirmed signup list, copied from the OP.
I notice that Sinclair at the top is most scummy, and ypmagic at the bottom is un cc'd neutral.
Wouldn't it be interested if role cards were systematically handed down...
Of course, I'm not going to be using this as a basis for FoS, but it's interesting.

[42shadow42]

Sinclair
Damus_Graves
powerofdeath
Orpz
Hypersniper
Marill
42shadow42
Poriomania
ypmagic

this is the confirmed signup list, copied from the OP.
I notice that Sinclair at the top is most scummy, and ypmagic at the bottom is un cc'd neutral.
Wouldn't it be interested if role cards were systematically handed down...
Of course, I'm not going to be using this as a basis for FoS, but it's interesting.

Lol wut?

[Poriomania]

My thoughts exactly.

Why is Sinclair scum? I don't see how a "checking in guys bye" post is scummy.

[42shadow42]

So I've been thinking, another player under suspicion is clearly sinclair. I propose giving sinclair doc, and controlling him for town using the manipulator.

My Thoughts so far.
ypmagic- Journalist
PoD - Amnesiac
Sinclair - Doctor

[Poriomania]

Hey shadow.

Why is Sinclair scum?

[Orpz]

Hey shadow.

Why is Sinclair scum?

what if I didn't post at all after voting for who I think should get what role

[Orpz]

well...sinclair has time, but I still think he's scum

brb

[42shadow42]

Hey shadow.

Why is Sinclair scum?
I didn't say he was scum, I said he was under suspicion, thus giving him doc, and using controller to keep an eye on him. If his forced target dies we know he is scum. However your attempts to defend him lend credibility to the scum theory.


So I've been thinking, another player under suspicion is clearly sinclair. I propose giving sinclair doc, and controlling him for town using the manipulator.

My Thoughts so far.
ypmagic- Journalist
PoD - Amnesiac
Sinclair - Doctor
Poriomania - Jailor (Sheriff check n1, Sinclair control target.)




If in fact sinc/porio are the team. The controlling of sinclair will force porio to make the kill. If nobody is jailed n1, and a kill occurs it confirms the pair as scum. If he jails instead of kills we gain free time. If he is town we have given him a power role that is beneficial to the town.

[42shadow42]

well...sinclair has time, but I still think he's scum

brb


Thoughts on my plan?

[powerofdeath]

Damus, marill, and sinclair is scummy to me because they are lurking, and not making enough posts
Hypersniper have yet to post, but I can tell he is probably going to troll the gane when he get on

[Poriomania]

Going to bed now guys, going to form cohesive thoughts when I wake up.

[ypmagic]

I think Damus should be given manipulator.

[powerofdeath]

I think Damus should be given manipulator.

Reasons?

[powerofdeath]

Going to bed, its 2 in the morning

[Hypersniper]

hello im here just started for the british or in this case me so yeah anyway i have voted

[Hypersniper]

ok maril looks very suspicious but i agree all should vote themselves as vigil because maf is likly to vote themselves and get vigil

[powerofdeath]

ok maril looks very suspicious but i agree all should vote themselves as vigil because maf is likly to vote themselves and get vigil

This will not work, worst idea ever
Why do you think he is suspicious when you are agreeing to him
If everyone vote for himself, mafia will vote for his friend and his friend will vote for himself
He get 2 vote when everyone get one
Some of us would probably ignore us all and vote someone else
The neutral could just ignore us as well

[Hypersniper]

who wants some popcorn

[Hypersniper]

i agree with that 1 thing but all else is shit

[Orpz]

Thoughts on my plan?

The same could be said for any duo. But I see what you mean

[Damus_Graves]

Hello. Goodbye. Got things to do be back later.
All plans thus far are bad but vote me amnesiac.

[powerofdeath]

i agree with that 1 thing but all else is shit

Seriously you agree to the plan that have a lot of flaws and and easily backfired by one of the lurkers
But everything else is shit

Reasons for all of that?

[powerofdeath]

Hello. Goodbye. Got things to do be back later.
All plans thus far are bad but vote me amnesiac.

Why would you want to be amnesaic, and why should we give it to you?
If you think all plans are terrible, give us suggestions

[ypmagic]

Hello. Goodbye. Got things to do be back later.
All plans thus far are bad but vote me amnesiac.

I gave you Manipulator.

[42shadow42]

The same could be said for any duo. But I see what you mean

Hoped to get a reaction, but oh well. I really think its more likely to be orpz and sinclair. Orpz FoS'ed sinclair for doing the same thing as many others including himself. The true plan.

So I've been thinking, another player under suspicion is clearly sinclair. I propose giving sinclair doc, and controlling him for town using the manipulator.

My Thoughts so far.
ypmagic- Journalist
PoD - Amnesiac
Sinclair - Doctor (Manipulator target to sinclair)
Orpz - Jailor (Sheriff check n1, Sinclair control target.)

[Hypersniper]

ypmagic- Journalist
PoD - Amnesiac
Sinclair - Doctor (Manipulator target to sinclair)
Orpz- Jailor (Sheriff check n1, Sinclair control target.)

ok so u choose 4 people and thoght what roles they get or should get but not all else

[42shadow42]

Hoped to get a reaction, but oh well. I really think its more likely to be orpz and sinclair. Orpz FoS'ed sinclair for doing the same thing as many others including himself. The true plan.

So I've been thinking, another player under suspicion is clearly sinclair. I propose giving sinclair doc, and controlling him for town using the manipulator.




ok so u choose 4 people and thoght what roles they get or should get but not all else
My Thoughts so far.
ypmagic- Journalist
PoD - Amnesiac
Sinclair - Doctor (Manipulator target to sinclair)
Orpz- Jailor (Sheriff check n1, Sinclair control target.)
42shadow42 - Escort (Target Hypersniper)
Hypersniper - Vigilante (Blocked by me)

[Sinclair]

Sorry I was tired last night.

I don't appreciate being called scum after one post. The speculation in this thread fucking skyrocketed.

My alignment is Collectivist. So ya'll can hop off my dick now.

[Sinclair]

Hoped to get a reaction, but oh well. I really think its more likely to be orpz and sinclair. Orpz FoS'ed sinclair for doing the same thing as many others including himself. The true plan.

So I've been thinking, another player under suspicion is clearly sinclair. I propose giving sinclair doc, and controlling him for town using the manipulator.

My Thoughts so far.
ypmagic- Journalist
PoD - Amnesiac
Sinclair - Doctor (Manipulator target to sinclair)
Orpz - Jailor (Sheriff check n1, Sinclair control target.)

Why in the hell would you vote me doc and then have the manipulator manipulate me? That makes no sense. How about I do it myself?

42shadow seems scummy to me.

[Sinclair]

shadow is throwing scum blames around like its fucking candy at a parade. GTFO scum.

[42shadow42]

My Thoughts so far.
ypmagic- Journalist
PoD - Amnesiac
Sinclair - Doctor (Manipulator target to sinclair)
Orpz- Jailor (Sheriff check n1, Sinclair control target.)
42shadow42 - Escort (Target Hypersniper)
Hypersniper - Vigilante (Blocked by me)
Damus - Manipulator ( Control sinclair to heal Orpz)
Marill - Sheriff ( Check Orpz)
Poriomania - Copycat (Take sheriff check hyper)

[Poriomania]

Not a fan of Sinclair's recent posts.

[Hypersniper]

Hypersniper - Vigilante (Blocked by me)

wtf is the point in that get a vigi then block him so he cant kill yes a vigil shouldent random kill but being blocked what is the point in that

[Orpz]

>scared that I'm Mafia, so tells Sheriff to check me
>tells Manipulator to control Sinclair to heal me
>essentially telling 3 night actions to be directed on me

vaginaboob

[42shadow42]

wtf is the point in that get a vigi then block him so he cant kill yes a vigil shouldent random kill but being blocked what is the point in that

Blocked until sheriff confirms you town. Wouldn't want 2 night kills.

[Orpz]

I think Porio would be a good Jailor

[Hypersniper]

I think orpz will be gud journalist

[Hypersniper]

There's 2 members in the thread at this time but who is the other member is it u orpz

[Sinclair]

Not a fan of Sinclair's recent posts.

Why? Because shadow is making no sense?

Blocked until sheriff confirms you town. Wouldn't want 2 night kills.

You are making no sense whatsoever. Throwing around scum claims like crazy.

My predictions are that shadow is scum and so is porio.

[Poriomania]

Yay PoD :) I have to take a break from the computer for a little bit, but I have some questions:

What is everyone's opinion of me voting before I made my first post?
What is everyone's opinion of Sinclair doing that and actually afking?
Why did Marill bail out after making a post that was controversial?

btw Town-sided Amnesiac is good to have

1. RVS is fine. In my meta it's expected that you vote on your first post, so :shrug:

2. It's null to me.

3. Maybe he was... actually AFK?

So, thoughts on the game.

I'm town.

powerofdeath is likely town because I don't think scum would attract attention so early.

Damus, Orpz, and shadow are null. I can't get much from their posts.

I don't like Sinclair's posts because he overreacts after some people cursory call him scum.

So ya'll can hop off my dick now.

Sinclair's also been OMGUSing like crazy.

Hypersniper has not produced original content and backs a questionable plan.

Marill's scummy for reasons I said earlier.

Going off a tangent here, but I don't much about what role I get. My philosophy of mafia is to be transparently town and making the thread uncomfortable for scum to exist in is more powerful than roles as a whole.

So, yeah.

No.

@Orpz: Why did you go after Sinclair for sending in roles then disappearing but not Hypersniper, who has done the same thing?

unvote, -vote Sinclair

[Hypersniper]

So lets get to a plan Sinclair is suspicious so is marill and a questinable plan whats so questinable obituaries not want to be blocked for no reason anyway porio is likely town because this is hi first fm game or could be neut everyone seems ok

[Hypersniper]

Wow 3 members and 11 yes 11 guests on this thread

[Hypersniper]

I'm guessing that's because all u Americas Canadians and so on r wakeing up or r in the evening while here in good ol England it's 11:00 pm

[Hypersniper]

Orpz ur thoughts on who is scum and town set it out like this
Player name: collectivist add colour green for town red go maf and yellow for neut

[Damus_Graves]

Hey. I can be active~ish

[Sinclair]

First off Porio, learn to vote

Secondly, what the hell is OMGUSing?

And like I said I am town, or if you want "Collectivist". I am far from scum. Judging by day 1 post almost never works in my experience. Therefore I will not be accusing anyone of scum unless they're acting stupid (shadow).

[Hypersniper]

I think orpz as journal
Porio as doc
Me as vig
Shadow as escort
Sinclair as jail
Damus as manipulator
Pod as Amne
Marill as sherrif that's all I have

[Damus_Graves]

Why am I manipulator?

[Sinclair]

BTW these are my role votes. I voted myself as vig because who doesn't like vig?!

Sinclair: Vigilante
ypmagic: Escort
Damus_Graves: Amnesiac
powerofdeath: journalist
Orpz: Doctor
Hypersniper: Manipulator
Marill: Sheriff
42shadow42: Jailor
Poriomania: copycat

[Hypersniper]

Porio WHAT DA FAQ is origanal content quick tip don't make big long summary posts day 1 u prob not know that since this is ur first game it's not against the rules but voting works like this unvote and playername without the spaces

[Hypersniper]

Damus u r manipulator because I dident know if ur town or not and I dident have many roles left to give u

[Damus_Graves]

ANSWER ME!!

[Damus_Graves]

Damus u r manipulator because I dident know if ur town or not and I dident have many roles left to give u

Ah. Well I suppose that'll have to be.
tisk tisk to forget little ol' me.

[Hypersniper]

Forgot bout yp and copycat and shadow seems scummy so jailed may not be the bet for him

[Hypersniper]

I'm on a iPod so I'm typing slowly

[Hypersniper]

Porio may I ask u what roles u would give to all

[Hypersniper]

Yay no pervy guest spying into the fm only the fm pedo members

[Hypersniper]

I think whoever is vig is maf unless there me or Sinclair or orpz

[powerofdeath]

Pod- amnes since majority of town want me to be one
Sinclair - sheriff because i think he is really scummy, and scum cant do shit with sheriff
Orpz- jailor hes probably a good person to be a jailor
Copycat - undecided

[Sinclair]

Porio just for future reference most games have voting systems that work like this

[ vote ] playernamehere [ /vote ]

And

[ unvote ] [ /unvote ]

All without spaces

UNLESS otherwise stated.

[Hypersniper]

Hi pod hi porio pod ur votes on what people's roles should be

[Damus_Graves]

Make a table of everything everyone has posted about who they are making who please.

[Hypersniper]

Pod full list with all playas

[Poriomania]

First off Porio, learn to vote

Secondly, what the hell is OMGUSing?

And like I said I am town, or if you want "Collectivist". I am far from scum. Judging by day 1 post almost never works in my experience. Therefore I will not be accusing anyone of scum unless they're acting stupid (shadow).

Sure. FM Marill Sinclair

Here's a definition of OMGUS. (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Oh_My_God_You_Suck)

I can't take your word for being town.

And Hypersniper, this isn't my first game - I'm playing in several games spanning multiple sites. Why do you not want me to post large summary posts Day 1?

And why do you want my role votes? Is this your attempt at fishing?

[Sinclair]

Pod- amnes since majority of town want me to be one
Sinclair - sheriff because i think he is really scummy, and scum cant do shit with sheriff
Orpz- jailor hes probably a good person to be a jailor
Copycat - undecided

Please tell why you think I'm scummy? What have I done other than defend myself from idiotic attacks? The real scum posts come day 2 after the night action claims and role claims.

[powerofdeath]

Pod- amnes since majority of town want me to be one
Sinclair - sheriff because i think he is really scummy, and scum cant do shit with sheriff
Orpz- jailor hes probably a good person to be a jailor
Copycat - undecided

Damus - manipulator seem like a person to be onep
Ypmagic - journalist cuz hes neut

[powerofdeath]

Please tell why you think I'm scummy? What have I done other than defend myself from idiotic attacks? The real scum posts come day 2 after the night action claims and role claims.

If youre town, then sheriff would be helpful, and you should be glad to have it, if youre scum then you do not want this, it seem like you dont want this role

[Sinclair]

Also, if you check out my other games I post exactly the same so you cannot say because of my choice of words or whatever bullshit you're going to pull out of your ass.

AND I never said I didn't want it did I? Lrn2rd. I asked you why you thought I was scummy. Derp.

[Hypersniper]

Here's mine
Me vig
Pod Amne
Porio doc
Sinclair jail
Damus manipulator
Ypmagic sheriff
Orpz journalist
Marill escort
Forgot who else is in game

[powerofdeath]

Pod-amnes
Yp-journalist
Orpz-jailor
Damus-manipulator
Sinclair- sheriff
Porio - copycat
Marill - vig
Hypersniper - doc
42- escort

[Hypersniper]

Is t ur first sc2 forum game and don't post big day 1 because no role claim no leads or evdence so summers r useless

[Damus_Graves]

Marill is an experienced player most likely. However he might be mafia. But he is experienced.

[Hypersniper]

Wow wow wow marill vig no I hope many other agree mqrill has been scummy since a big shitty scummy idea post

[powerofdeath]

Pod-amnes
Yp-journalist
Orpz-jailor
Damus-manipulator
Sinclair- sheriff
Porio - copycat
Marill - doc
Hypersniper - vig
42- escort
Switched hyper and marill

[powerofdeath]

Wow wow wow marill vig no I hope many other agree mqrill has been scummy since a big shitty scummy idea post

I mistyped, calm down

[Poriomania]

The belief that there's nothing to be gained Day 1 is false.

You have discussion.

You have role votes.

And most importantly, you have behavioral analysis, which is why I'm voting Sinclair.

[Hypersniper]

Marill would be fine with doc or escort doc dies shit for mafia depth protecting from vig attacks and escort us useless if not targeted on right person

[powerofdeath]

The belief that there's nothing to be gained Day 1 is false.

You have discussion.

You have role votes.

And most importantly, you have behavioral analysis, which is why I'm voting Sinclair.

No day one lynch

[Hypersniper]

Oh ok pod seems legit that list if roles and porio necer said day 1 evdence is false I said hard evidence. Is dalse

[Hypersniper]

Sinclair dosent seem scummy to me marill and shadow do Sinclair has done nothing wrong

[Poriomania]

Yeah, no day one lynch (which I'm not a fan of, IMO) but that doesn't mean behavioral /can't/ be analyzed.

[Sinclair]

The belief that there's nothing to be gained Day 1 is false.

You have discussion.

You have role votes.

And most importantly, you have behavioral analysis, which is why I'm voting Sinclair.

See now here is where you're at a disadvantage. You haven't played an SC2mafia forum game yet which means you haven't played with me. I'm a douche. Youll see that from now on. If I don't like someone or how someone.is playing ill call them out and I honestly don't give a fuck. Soooo voting me is not a good idea, I'm town aligned but you can do whatever you want. Doesnt bother me, bitch!

(Excuse typos, I'm on my phone at work)

[Hypersniper]

REGI REGI SAUCE EAT IT UP

[powerofdeath]

Pod-amnes
Yp-journalist can do whatever he want
Orpz-jailor not sure if he can jail
Damus-manipulator dont do anything until we find out whos scum
Sinclair- sheriff investigate hypersniper to make sure he is town
Porio - copycat use sheriff and investigate sinclair
Marill - doc heal jailor
Hypersniper - vig do not shoot, we dont have too much evidences
42- escort
Anyone disagree to this plan?

[Damus_Graves]

Ypmagic

[Hypersniper]

PORIO SINCLAIR IS A DOUCE BECAUSE HIS DAD KILLED UR MOTHER BUT U KILLED HIS WHOLE FAMILY'S

[Titus]

It is the one hour deadline to send/change votes. If you have not sent votes in one hour, you will be penalized your first night action.

For future days, only votes picked up by the vote counter will count. For those of you who may be unfamiliar with the vote counter, you can track votes by clicking on the vote count at the top of the thread. It prevents intrusion by the host. [ vote]Titus[/ vote] is how to vote. The name must be spelled exactly. E.g. The host doesn't work in place of Titus. Only the first item in any post is detected by the vote counter. If the vote isn't in the vote counter, it doesn't count.

All questions NOT in green will not be answered.

[Damus_Graves]

PORIO SINCLAIR IS A DOUCE BECAUSE HIS DAD KILLED UR MOTHER BUT U KILLED HIS WHOLE FAMILY'S

Warning: Stop these kinds of posts now.

[Hypersniper]

If yp was scum he could make fake articłes and manipulate the town

[powerofdeath]

I WANT EVERYONE TO CHANGE THEIR CHOICES TO MY LISTS OR IF YOU HAVENT DONE SO, DO IT NOW

[Damus_Graves]

I WANT EVERYONE TO CHANGE THEIR CHOICES TO MY LISTS OR IF YOU HAVENT DONE SO, DO IT NOW

No

[Hypersniper]

Ok Camus I will stop them posts and do u care for some REGI REGI sauce

[Sinclair]

Ok Camus I will stop them posts and do u care for some REGI REGI sauce

What the fuck?

[Titus]

PORIO SINCLAIR IS A DOUCE BECAUSE HIS DAD KILLED UR MOTHER BUT U KILLED HIS WHOLE FAMILY'S

Please do not refer to people as "douce"s. That is inappropriate. Personal attacks are not allowed. That language might break the PG-13 rating, and the grammar is atrocious.

[powerofdeath]

No
Youre just mad you are getting manipulator
My plan is flawless, the sheriff and copycat can investigate 2 people
Vig dont random shoot
Escort roleblock vig to make sure
Doc heal on our jailor
Everyone should post their list

[Hypersniper]

No pod my votes r fine so r hrs but some stuff just be secret but I hope u have voted me to vig since pod wants it and I think as a town member I can do gd





Gd= good deeds
FoS means finger if suspiciousn

[Poriomania]

See now here is where you're at a disadvantage. You haven't played an SC2mafia forum game yet which means you haven't played with me. I'm a douche. Youll see that from now on. If I don't like someone or how someone.is playing ill call them out and I honestly don't give a fuck. Soooo voting me is not a good idea, I'm town aligned but you can do whatever you want. Doesnt bother me, bitch!

(Excuse typos, I'm on my phone at work)

I can sort of mindset analyze you, but ehh. If you're scum, you still have the scum wincon, and same goes for town.

Still don't like Hypersniper.

@Damus: Why not?

[Hypersniper]

Ok ok I get it don't post that stuff but son lair called him self a douce

[Hypersniper]

Porio why u don't like me I'm a respectable English man

[Poriomania]

Shorthand for "I don't like your posts".

[Hypersniper]

What's wincom u mean wimfom

[Poriomania]

Win condition.

[Damus_Graves]

Define why not

[Hypersniper]

Ohh ok u will learn I can be very random and annoying ussaly because I'm on my iPod I can be a d!@£ sometimes

[Poriomania]

Why don't you like powerofdeath suggesting everyone go over to his plan?

You're pretty curt. You'll be a tough nugget to read.

[Hypersniper]

Never heard wincon before if u think someone is scummy use FoS it mean a finger of susspisoun and explain why

[powerofdeath]

If for some reasons, people recieved different roles
Escort should roleblock hypersniper
Vig should not shoot
Sheriff should investigate the vig(most likely hypersniper)
Copycat should investigate sheriff
Amnes does nothing yet
Jailor(dont think he can jail because he recieved his role at night)
Doctor heal someone you think is going to be a target
Journalist do whatever he want
Manipulator should do nothing until we know who isnt doing my plan

People who doesnt follow, will be considered scum

[Sinclair]

Why don't you like powerofdeath suggesting everyone go over to his plan?

You're pretty curt. You'll be a tough nugget to read.

Think of it this way.

We don't know at all who is town or not. Pod could be suggesting the perfect mafia win setup. If he's scum he would know who is what role. And he gets the role he wants. Not a great idea eh?

[Sinclair]

Seriously pod? People who don't follow you will be considered scum? Lol fuck off man.

[Poriomania]

FoS isn't as good as a vote.

I don't like FoSes because if I have a vote, I want to use it productively.

Ive become more and more convinced just in my games that I've seen that town don't FoS even when they have two suspects. They are fine putting pressure only through attacks rather then non-commital psuedovotes. As such I've moved more to the mindset that all FoS are scummy.

[Hypersniper]

I need to ask question but cause I'm on my iPod I can't because I can't pick the colour green so I'm making it bold when the day is up do u give us r role cards and that's hat or does something happen like u show us who voted for who and such

[Poriomania]

@Sinclair: I have a town read on powerofdeath, though! :mad:

[Hypersniper]

I agree with Sinclair if I don't follow u I'm scum if I'm correct u r usi g reverse pycology meaning ur scum

[Poriomania]

I agree with Sinclair if I don't follow u I'm scum if I'm correct u r usi g reverse pycology meaning ur scum

I don't even.

[Damus_Graves]

POD is half town. Not bad. Just still. Im going with no.
Oh and Poriiiiiiiii. Good luck

[Sinclair]

@Sinclair: I have a town read on powerofdeath, though! :mad:

Okay, one person has a town read on him. An analysis of his day one posts where he keeps on suggesting people follow him or be scum.

Who says you aren't mafia too? Trying to get us away from thinking your mafia friend is scum so we can use his plan and let you guys win?

[Poriomania]

Agh. There's very little that actually evidence your own thoughts, and thought processes.

[Sinclair]

PS my previous post was speculation not accusatory.


Also I have a sneaking suspicion that hyper is ika's smurf... they type almost exactly the same.

[Hypersniper]

I think that etheir porio marill pod or shadow r scum

[Orpz]

Carrier has arrived

brb reading

[Poriomania]

Nah, I've seen Hyper online a few times.

[Hypersniper]

Wait Sinclair I'm no smurf I'm not blue or mini am I lol any way porio ur I do t even comment I'm typing on a iPod just so u know Sinclair I'm not ika smurf I have got a sc2 maf account called hyoersniper and all and u know I have played a game wit ika

[Hypersniper]

Plus I'm from Britain and I'm on all ya time almost all the time

[ypmagic]

Don't make the neutral Sheriff.....

[Hypersniper]

GRAMMER is hard when on a iPod

[Hypersniper]

Up is the neutral then let him be a manipulator of copycat

[Hypersniper]

There r 6 members on this thread

[Titus]

I need to ask question but cause I'm on my iPod I can't because I can't pick the colour green so I'm making it bold when the day is up do u give us r role cards and that's hat or does something happen like u show us who voted for who and such

Ok I am making an important exception, but this is the LAST question not in green that will be answered. The exception is solely how to explain colored text. You can do green on your phone.

[co lor = "00ff00"] TEXT HERE[/color ]. Remove the spaces. All text inside will be green.

Rolecards go out at the end of the day. You will not see who voted for you. All votes are confidential.

[Hypersniper]

I think most of the posts r mine in the game lol and Titus if u pls look back u will see my question sinceimnon a iPod can make it green so instead it's bold

[Orpz]

There's 2 members in the thread at this time but who is the other member is it u orpz

I don't invisible anymore



@Orpz: Why did you go after Sinclair for sending in roles then disappearing but not Hypersniper, who has done the same thing?

unvote, -vote Sinclair

It's really hard to read his posts. I don't remember if I missed it, forgot about it, or died of cancer.


BTW these are my role votes. I voted myself as vig because who doesn't like vig?!

Sinclair: Vigilante
ypmagic: Escort
Damus_Graves: Amnesiac
powerofdeath: journalist
Orpz: Doctor
Hypersniper: Manipulator
Marill: Sheriff
42shadow42: Jailor
Poriomania: copycat

Was this your random votes or is this a revised edition? You gave a player you called "stupid" Jailor.


See now here is where you're at a disadvantage. You haven't played an SC2mafia forum game yet which means you haven't played with me. I'm a douche. Youll see that from now on. If I don't like someone or how someone.is playing ill call them out and I honestly don't give a fuck. Soooo voting me is not a good idea, I'm town aligned but you can do whatever you want. Doesnt bother me, bitch!

(Excuse typos, I'm on my phone at work)

No you're not, you're so nice :D

I also don't understand why PoD says it's a good idea to have 3 people use their night action on me.
2 night actions to make sure I don't die, 1 to make sure I'm not Mafia
slowclap

[Hypersniper]

Oh ok Titus cool anyway orpz who u think who should be witch roof

[powerofdeath]

I think most of the posts r mine in the game lol and Titus if u pls look back u will see my question sinceimnon a iPod can make it green so instead it's bold

He did answer your question

[Hypersniper]

Orpz most of the time I'm on my iPod so it's hard to type

[ypmagic]

To me, you're all voting weirdly. Why in the world would you give a Neutral Sheriff? Or even Escort? Sinclair your really scummy right now for not having a valid excuse for voting yourself Vigilante. Why not Damus? Hes better than you. Why not Marill? Hes probably better than you. Give me a reason.

[Orpz]

Oh ok Titus cool anyway orpz who u think who should be witch roof

You can and should be Witch.
It seems simple enough and shouldn't really confuse anyone if you're Town and you reveal who you controlled and stuff.

[Hypersniper]

I know I was in advanced mode when I typed it so I dident see i

[Orpz]

To me, you're all voting weirdly. Why in the world would you give a Neutral Sheriff? Or even Escort? Sinclair your really scummy right now for not having a valid excuse for voting yourself Vigilante. Why not Damus? Hes better than you. Why not Marill? Hes probably better than you. Give me a reason.

I'm okay with a neutral being Sheriff. Neutral has no reason to lie to Town early on in the game if Mafia is found, and Mafia doesn't really want to incapacitate a neutral role.

[ypmagic]

I'm okay with a neutral being Sheriff. Neutral has no reason to lie to Town early on in the game if Mafia is found, and Mafia doesn't really want to incapacitate a neutral role.

Even though that is true, why would you vote yourself Vigilante without a reason when theres people around you that can handle the job better? I gave Orpz Vigilante.

[Hypersniper]

Marill seems scummy like maf damus I think would be better as a diff role so that leaves a small amount of people and I honk I should be sheriff cause I won't random kill all the town

[Hypersniper]

Orpz seems to be a gud journalist so I gave him that all else don't fall in to place so I thi k I should be vigil and yp what role did u vote me as

[Hypersniper]

Sinclair falls under doc or escort

[Hypersniper]

Pod falls under Amne for unknown reasons

[Hypersniper]

Up why do. Hide urslf

[Hypersniper]

10 mins till day end I think

[Hypersniper]

Yp whats ur full list of who. Voted for

[Orpz]

Neutrals are generally Town-sided anyways.

Here's my list:

Sinclair -> Manipulator
Doesn't seem like that big a deal to have him be a Manipulator. Sure, he might end up being scum and be troublesome but is it really that bad? I'd rather risk scum being a Witch instead of like an Escort or Amnesiac

Damus -> Amnesiac
He asked. Plus, if Town, he'll make the right decision on choosing a role.

PoD -> Escort
The only person I trust as 100% Town on Day 1 should get the best Town role

Orpz -> Copycat
I like this role. It's a good role.

Hyper -> Sheriff
I don't have a good feeling about his decisions after the way he spammed in every game I've played with him. I entrust Hyper with Sheriff because it's the easiest role in the game. Don't screw it up plz

Marill -> Doctor/Vigilante
old meat
wifom

42 -> Doctor/Vigilante
Seems trustworthy
wifom

Porio -> Jailor
Actively pursues reads, I have no doubt that he'll go back in day chats and read posts that his victim made. Seems relatively unbiased, save for Hypersniper. Also doesn't seem trigger happy, but not afraid to execute.

ypmagic -> Journalist
he's ok I guess

[Orpz]

holy dogshit spam

[42shadow42]

Jailor cannot jail night 1 correct?

[Orpz]

We should agree on an Escort and all vote that person and whoever gets Doctor, heal him

Escort is the best

[Hypersniper]

Warning 8 mins till day end

[Orpz]

Warning 8 mins till day end

There's another hour

[Hypersniper]

Lol I have to aggre my spam is horrible so that's means ur the copy cat ir jailor

[Titus]

Jailor cannot jail night 1 correct?

Correct. 5 minutes left to change votes.

[Hypersniper]

Wait ohh at 2:00 am British time got it anyway I will be back in 30:00 mins

[Hypersniper]

Ohh it was for votes gotcha

[Hypersniper]

1 thing before I go votes have ended I think Titus will make a post in yellow about it

[Titus]

Votes are cut off. If I was confused about your message, you can clarify. However, you are stuck with your choices.

PMs will be sent right at 6 PM, hopefully.

There is still one hour left in the day.

[Hypersniper]

wait 6:00 pm is that 2:00 am in British time

[Hypersniper]

Yay my green worked for myr question

[Titus]

wait 6:00 pm is that 2:00 am in British time

6:00 host time is in about 45 minutes. This is why perfect hosts always include a Wolfram Alpha Link to show when timed events occur.

[Hypersniper]

A big flaw on phones they have no reload buton

[Hypersniper]

K so I was right 2:00 am

[Hypersniper]

If ur wondering why I'm very spammy is be used the only what to see new post is to'ake a post so my page reloads

[Sinclair]

I voted myself vig because why not? I love that role.

Also no that was my random list and unfortunately I did not have the time to revise it.

[Hypersniper]

Porio ur still on the thread so what do u think we all shoud be

[Hypersniper]

Sinclair why was ye at work

[Hypersniper]

What I don't get why do so many people hide themselves for a s fm a m fm maybe but why what's the logic

[Titus]

Hypersniper, please check your PM box. No penalty because I didn't catch this either, but you accidently duplicated one of the roles in your voting list. Please correct this.

[Hypersniper]

I hate phones sometimes

[Sinclair]

Sinclair why was ye at work

You...you're joking right?

[Hypersniper]

Yes Sinclair I was joking and Titus I have sent ye the pm

[Hypersniper]

I always say time us money and when u have no money ur time runs out

[Hypersniper]

Warning 15 mins till day end

[Hypersniper]

Pod have ye noticed yp has voted u

[Hypersniper]

There's 5 members and a pervy guest in the cane

[powerofdeath]

Seems like everyone is voting different cuz everyone have a lot of different opinions
can the mafia kill if they do not have vig, jailor or manipulator?

[powerofdeath]

Pod have ye noticed yp has voted u

Yes meta reason, he was pissed off when i got him lynched as an exe, even though he wasnt my target

[powerofdeath]

Also just to clarify, americans have 6 different time zone, Its almost 9 here and for some people its 4:00 there

[powerofdeath]

I highly suggest copycat to use sheriff as first night

[Sinclair]

Good luck tonight guys. Can't wait to see what role I got :D

[ypmagic]

5 mins. lolz

[Hypersniper]

1 min left

[Hypersniper]

Titus it's time

[Hypersniper]

Titus u was wrong it's 1 min past night noooooo

[Hypersniper]

I have no too card and now 3 min past were all doomed

[Titus]

Sorry for closing late. I was tabulating the roles. Rolecards going out now.

Night ends and Day 2 starts in 24 hours, which is this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=6%2F2%2F2013+6%3A00+PM+PST). Night actions are due one hour before day comes.

[Titus]

Seems like everyone is voting different cuz everyone have a lot of different opinions
can the mafia kill if they do not have vig, jailor or manipulator?

Yes. They would have to sacrifice an action by their night role to do that. Ex: If Mafia drew coroner, they could opt to forgo healing and kill instead. Coroner was picked for that hypothetical because it is not present in the game.

[Titus]

Sorry for the late open. It's my fault. Night ends in 24 hours from now. This post will be edited with the time.

Powerofdeath, the vigilante, is a dead Collectivist.

[42shadow42]

First post!, checks time ...

[Poriomania]

FM Marill

[42shadow42]

Clearly you didn't go with my plan.

[42shadow42]

Anyways, I think it would be a good idea to tally up all night actions we can prove occurred last night, none of those players killed PoD, it would also be a good idea to identify the Copycat, because his action can mess up the evidence.

I voted for Poriomania as copycat.

[Poriomania]

I will explain everything as soon as everyone has checked in.

[42shadow42]

Yes. They would have to sacrifice an action by their night role to do that. Ex: If Mafia drew coroner, they could opt to forgo healing and kill instead. Coroner was picked for that hypothetical because it is not present in the game.

Host slip, the doctor is scum.

[Titus]

Host slip, the doctor is scum.

Didn't you know that coroners heal corpses? Missed a spot. Doctor was the original hypo but I didn't want assumptions made so I changed to coroner.

[42shadow42]

Didn't you know that coroners heal corpses? Missed a spot. Doctor was the original hypo but I didn't want assumptions made so I changed to coroner.

I know, I just figured I'd point it out :P

[Poriomania]

Will be going to sleep soon and have to work tomorrow. I won't be able to reliably check in until four or five o'clock in the afternoon.

Regardless if anyone checks in or not, I will explain everything in the morning.

Everything sure is a lot to explain.

[Orpz]

I know what Porio means.
M-FM Marill

[Orpz]

and you can't just vote Marill, you have to vote M-FM Marill

[Poriomania]

Shh. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50240451/icon_wink01%20%281%29.gif

M-FM Marill

[Orpz]

Also, there was no interview.
Stupid neutral