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powerofdeath
May 10th, 2013, 04:54 PM
Two men who failed high school are tired of everyone being so smart and going to college to get their degrees. Those two men wanted to be successful in life and become someone important like a doctor or a sheriff. They are tired of it! They decided to start killing innocent people. While one of them was sharpening their blade to prepare for his first kill, a scream was heard nearby and the town came to this corpse. It was Johnny Appleseed. His role was the president of the United States. While the person who was sharpening his blade, realized he was not alone, he knew somebody was with him but he doesn't know who.

I will appoint my vice president Powerofdeath to become the next president. Please give this million dollar to my only son: Bobby Appleseed. To honor my death, there shall be no day 1 lynch!

Set up:
Serial Killer
Serial Killer
hidden role
hidden role
hidden role
Sheriff
Doctor
Traumatized Surgeon
Hidden Neutral

Player list:
1. Ika
2. Ypmagic
3. Cryptonic
4. Bunny
5. Creedkingsx ---> Noctiz
6. Noctis
7. Titus
8. Orpz
9. Slenderman

Link to the set up (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/19791-S-FM-Double-Killers)

Day 1 will end at this time (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=8pm+May+11th+EST&x=0&y=0)

4
/go

Noctis
May 10th, 2013, 05:20 PM
In attendance, let's get this done.

Orpz
May 10th, 2013, 05:22 PM
Noctis, are you Noctiz?

ypmagic
May 10th, 2013, 05:22 PM
We have 23 hours to get this done. Anyone wanna start a role claim?

Orpz
May 10th, 2013, 05:23 PM
NO DAY ONE LYNCH? See you all tomorrow.

Orpz
May 10th, 2013, 05:25 PM
We have 23 hours to get this done. Anyone wanna start a role claim?

Interesting, why do you think this would be a good idea?

ypmagic
May 10th, 2013, 05:25 PM
xD/.................

ypmagic
May 10th, 2013, 05:26 PM
I didn't know there was no lynch

Orpz
May 10th, 2013, 05:29 PM
I didn't know there was no lynch

So because there's no lynch, there should be a role call? idgi :S

Bunny
May 10th, 2013, 05:39 PM
hiho everyone!

Cryptonic
May 10th, 2013, 05:41 PM
hey
i'm an important town power role
what's up

ika
May 10th, 2013, 06:30 PM
hai scince it no lynch im gonna be an ass today

Bujeebus
May 10th, 2013, 06:40 PM
Why am I not on the players list?

Cryptonic
May 10th, 2013, 06:47 PM
hai scince it no lynch im gonna be an ass today

shut your face when you're talking to me

powerofdeath
May 10th, 2013, 06:52 PM
Why am I not on the players list?

I sent you a PM, please do not post here again, PM me instead

ika
May 10th, 2013, 06:53 PM
shut your face when you're talking to me

how does one shut their face? you mad already that im in this game? good to know.

Cryptonic
May 10th, 2013, 06:58 PM
how does one shut their face? you mad already that im in this game? good to know.

lrn2read

ika
May 10th, 2013, 07:03 PM
lrn2read

one simply does not read my good sir. one sits and camps and becomes an ass

ika
May 10th, 2013, 07:08 PM
who else is lurking here?

ika
May 10th, 2013, 07:34 PM
CREEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD! POST!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cryptonic
May 10th, 2013, 07:34 PM
one simply does not read my good sir. one sits and camps and becomes an ass

i said close that mouth

ika
May 10th, 2013, 07:35 PM
i said close that mouth

SPEAK IN ALL CAPS WHEN ADRESSING SOMETHING TO YOU? OK!

creedkingsx
May 10th, 2013, 07:40 PM
Km at work. Good morning.

Titus
May 10th, 2013, 07:40 PM
I claim ask court. That's all move along now.

Cryptonic
May 10th, 2013, 07:41 PM
SPEAK IN ALL CAPS WHEN ADRESSING SOMETHING TO YOU? OK!

what is it about men's anuses that you love so much?

Orpz
May 10th, 2013, 07:42 PM
Gandhi declared war on me and nuked my frontier cities and oil reserves :(

Cryptonic
May 10th, 2013, 07:43 PM
Gandhi declared war on me and nuked my frontier cities and oil reserves :(

y r u scum

ika
May 10th, 2013, 07:47 PM
what is it about men's anuses that you love so much?

WHO SAID ASS = ANUS?

ASS= MULE =ANNOYING TROLL

Cryptonic
May 10th, 2013, 07:49 PM
WHO SAID ASS = ANUS?

ASS= MULE =ANNOYING TROLL

no i said, and meant, anuses

ika
May 10th, 2013, 07:52 PM
no i said, and meant, anuses

PLZ TELL ME WHERE I SAID THAT I LIKE MENS ANUSES. RIGHT NOW I HAVE SAID IM GONNA BE AN ASS

Orpz
May 10th, 2013, 07:53 PM
y r u scum

I'm not scum. I was going for a peaceful Cultural victory.

Orpz
May 10th, 2013, 07:54 PM
Gandhi and Attila the Hun are probably the most scummy right now.
Gandhi

ika
May 10th, 2013, 07:55 PM
CREEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDD COME BE UNIMPORTANT AND POST AGIAN

Orpz
May 10th, 2013, 08:02 PM
I'm gonna go back to getting molested in CiV. I'll return soon.

ika
May 10th, 2013, 08:03 PM
I'm gonna go back to getting molested in CiV. I'll return soon.

LOLZ!

Cryptonic
May 10th, 2013, 08:14 PM
ika isn't being an ass at all, i'm disappoint.

ika
May 10th, 2013, 08:16 PM
ika isn't being an ass at all, i'm disappoint.

DEFINE ASS.

Orpz
May 10th, 2013, 08:17 PM
More shit needs to come out of you

Cryptonic
May 10th, 2013, 08:20 PM
More shit needs to come out of you

ohhhh snap

ika
May 10th, 2013, 08:22 PM
More shit needs to come out of you

*insert jpg pic of shit here*

Orpz
May 10th, 2013, 08:24 PM
*insert jpg pic of shit here*

that is not ass-quality shit

ika
May 10th, 2013, 08:26 PM
that is not ass-quality shit

i like being on this site and rather not be banned or infracted.

i find it funny you claimed afk then came back. sadly i have to go so i will see you tom

Orpz
May 10th, 2013, 08:28 PM
i like being on this site and rather not be banned or infracted.

i find it funny you claimed afk then came back. sadly i have to go so i will see you tom

LOL I'd rather you stay on this site too :D

I said I'd return soon and I did. My game was almost over since I was nuked shortly before.

Titus
May 10th, 2013, 08:33 PM
Gandhi declared war on me and nuked my frontier cities and oil reserves :(

This makes me want to win peacefully as Atilla the Hun.

ypmagic
May 10th, 2013, 08:42 PM
Shazbot.

Orpz
May 10th, 2013, 08:42 PM
I've never gone a game without being betrayed by: Attila or Alexander

10646
Gandhi is a pain once he gets Manhattan Project. Gandhi the Terrible!

Noctis
May 10th, 2013, 08:49 PM
Checking in before sleep, and no I'm not NoctiZ, you can be forgiven for thinking this.

creedkingsx
May 10th, 2013, 08:52 PM
Kk

SlenderMan
May 10th, 2013, 09:39 PM
O hai guys. Thought I'd try some internet stalking too. You okay with that? Who wants a visit tonight btw? I got eight pages with nice drawings I want to share.

powerofdeath
May 11th, 2013, 02:18 AM
I've never gone a game without being betrayed by: Attila or Alexander

10646
Gandhi is a pain once he gets Manhattan Project. Gandhi the Terrible!

NO PICS OR VIDEO, THIS IS FIRST AND FINAL WARNING THAT GOES TO EVERYONE PLEASE READ SET UP FOR RULES

ypmagic
May 11th, 2013, 03:02 AM
Shazbot.

Noctis
May 11th, 2013, 03:19 AM
Who let slendy in here? Well we're all doomed now.

ika
May 11th, 2013, 05:01 AM
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-.-

Titus
May 11th, 2013, 08:01 AM
Orpz, what level do you usually play on?

ika
May 11th, 2013, 09:16 AM
also orpz what civ is it i was considering getting civ myself

Titus
May 11th, 2013, 09:18 AM
also orpz what civ is it i was considering getting civ myself

I know I am no Orpz but we are talking about civ 5 with the gods and kings expansion.

ika
May 11th, 2013, 09:26 AM
I know I am no Orpz but we are talking about civ 5 with the gods and kings expansion.

oh. i have it on my ipod but even on hardest dificulty it is pretty ez mode. ive played some on com with cousin but ipod is prett dumbed down but can still be fun.

what difculty you play on?

Titus
May 11th, 2013, 09:44 AM
oh. i have it on my ipod but even on hardest dificulty it is pretty ez mode. ive played some on com with cousin but ipod is prett dumbed down but can still be fun.

what difculty you play on?

That's civilization revolution on the iPod. Lol When I play that, I usually go for a really high difficulty.

Orpz
May 11th, 2013, 10:26 AM
@POD, sorry ^^

I play Emperor on the Ipod and computer

Titus
May 11th, 2013, 10:56 AM
@POD, sorry ^^

I play Emperor on the Ipod and computer

I'm at prince atm. Do you prefer peaceful or military victories?

Orpz
May 11th, 2013, 11:53 AM
I'm at prince atm. Do you prefer peaceful or military victories?

Military but then the game gets really laggy so I end up just pulling a science victory more than half of the time

creedkingsx
May 11th, 2013, 12:32 PM
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/162/593/Walk_n_Walk_out.gif

yup

Noctis
May 11th, 2013, 02:14 PM
Slendy is gunna visit me in a few hours isn't he/she/it? :(

NoctiZ
May 11th, 2013, 04:38 PM
I STILL HAVE TIME TO BE AN ASS

Whoop Whoop!

Wassuuuuuuup

ika is looking like an ass >:(

RLVG = Slenderman !!OMG¡¡

Captain Obvious, be gone!

powerofdeath
May 11th, 2013, 05:04 PM
As the sun goes down, people were just hanging out, talking about their hobbies and interest, and one person broke a law but luckily the new president let it slides. Now another person thought I'm being too easy to the people, so he broke a law. I decided to banish him! However, the job for his position is now open. A young bright male came in for interview and he was successfully hired! Then they all went home to go to bed. Beside that, it seemed like just an average day and nobody gave a shit that the president just died. People were like 'Oh the president died? Huh... Anyway there's this game blah blah blah.' The two men were pleased that nobody suspect a thing about them and plan to find a young innocent person with full of life and future, then kill them.

Creedkingsx was replaced by noctiz.

Night 1 will end at this time (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=8pm+May+12th+EST&x=0&y=0)

powerofdeath
May 12th, 2013, 03:31 PM
Bunny told her loved one "Hey honey, I will be right back. Im getting grocery" and then left. She hid a knife in her pocket on her way out. She already planned something else for the night. She stood in front of someone's house who she hates. "Ypmagic... You must end here and now" she said to herself. She went around in the back, smashed through the window and ran upstair. While Ypmagic woke up and was startled by the noise, he immediately grabbed his shotgun he hid in his closet. He carefully walked downstair to look for causes of noise. As he walked in the kitchen, he said "oh its just you Bunny, what were you doing here? What was that noise--- ulgch!" Bunny slitted his throat while he was talking. Ypmagic died instantly. Bunny's job is done. All she had to do was grab some eggs and milk and go home to her family. Unfortunately ypmagic was a vegan and lactose intolerant, so she had to go to the grocery. As she walk through the dark alley to the grocery, a mysterious man came and tried to grab Bunny. Bunny took her knife she used to killed Ypmagic, and stabbed him in the shoulder. He screamed in pain. "You will pay for this!" he yelled. Using his other arm to stab Bunny in the legs, Bunny fell. He ran away. Unfortunately for Bunny, she was stabbed in one of the main artillery. She realized she was bleeding out. She cried for help, and nobody came. As she was losing blood, she was getting dizzy. She thought of her family and was sad she could never see her husband, never see her children grow up, and never play with her dogs and cats again. Then she saw the most beautiful bright white light. Bunny took her last breath, and she died. As the sun rises, a lonely man came over to ypmagic for dating advices, then he was found dead. He got the entire town to come to investigate. They discovered that ypmagic was doctor. Then they saw the trail of blood. They followed it and found Bunny dead in the alley. They discovered that Bunny was Serial Killer.

Alive Players list:
1. Ika
3. Cryptonic
5. Creedkingsx ---> Noctiz
6. Noctis
7. Titus
8. Orpz
9. Slenderman

Graveyard:
Ypmagic:Doctor Slit by the Serial Killer
Bunny:Serial Killer Stabbed by the Serial Killer and bled out slowly.

Day 2 will end at this time (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=8pm+May+13th+EST&x=0&y=0)
Since everyone submitted their night actions, day will start earlier

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 03:32 PM
I bet ika is SK

ika
May 12th, 2013, 03:34 PM
i think you sk. notiz you here?

ika
May 12th, 2013, 03:38 PM
also gj sk. you made it ez

ika
May 12th, 2013, 03:40 PM
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ika*

:(

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 03:43 PM
I am not going to rush to judgment on ika crypt and I don't like the fingerpointing so early.

Why is ika sk?

NoctiZ
May 12th, 2013, 03:43 PM
I'm here but was about to go offline lol.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 03:47 PM
i think you sk. notiz you here?

YEA BRO, I KILLED BUNNY N1 BECAUSE SHE LOVES DYING NIGHT ONE! That's some critical thinking.
Since there is only one killer now, I feel safe to reveal. I am sheriff, and I checked Titus n1 and she was NS. Ika doesn't like Bunny, I could easily see him making an amateur move like that. Notice how he responds to my accusation with the exact same accusation in myself, then immediately changes the subject? Seems fishy to me.
ika
If anything, I want a role claim and a night action out of you today. If you claim Citizen, I think we should lynch you anyways unless someone can prove your innocence.

Who was roleblocked last night? We know it wasn't ika, because he wouldve claimed it first post.

I think the other doc should be on me, or the BG. We can lynch ika today (unles he can prove himself), block someone else, and I'll say who I am checking.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 03:47 PM
noctiz do you know my role yet? i want to play a game

ika
May 12th, 2013, 03:48 PM
YEA BRO, I KILLED BUNNY N1 BECAUSE SHE LOVES DYING NIGHT ONE! That's some critical thinking.
Since there is only one killer now, I feel safe to reveal. I am sheriff, and I checked Titus n1 and she was NS. Ika doesn't like Bunny, I could easily see him making an amateur move like that. Notice how he responds to my accusation with the exact same accusation in myself, then immediately changes the subject? Seems fishy to me.
ika
If anything, I want a role claim and a night action out of you today. If you claim Citizen, I think we should lynch you anyways unless someone can prove your innocence.

Who was roleblocked last night? We know it wasn't ika, because he wouldve claimed it first post.

I think the other doc should be on me, or the BG. We can lynch ika today (unles he can prove himself), block someone else, and I'll say who I am checking.

so you think i would kill bunny over personal vendetta? no. i would of killed titus first becasue of trust.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 03:49 PM
really if you cant figure out my role crypt its bad. im not sk

NoctiZ
May 12th, 2013, 03:52 PM
noctiz do you know my role yet? i want to play a game

dunno, sounds like doc because "i want to play a game" reminds me of jigsaw who uses tools to cut his victims open to insert keys n shit.

Anyway, gonna go to bed now, cya later.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 03:52 PM
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ika*

come on someone talk to me. its boring sitting here

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 03:52 PM
really if you cant figure out my role crypt its bad. im not sk

you haven't mentioned a single thing about your role, why would I be able to figure it out?

You said Noctiz can confirm your innocence? So... claim a role.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 03:52 PM
dunno, sounds like doc because "i want to play a game" reminds me of jigsaw who uses tools to cut his victims open to insert keys n shit.

Anyway, gonna go to bed now, cya later.

Did anything happen to you last night?

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 03:53 PM
pls answer before you leave

ika
May 12th, 2013, 03:53 PM
dunno, sounds like doc because "i want to play a game" reminds me of jigsaw who uses tools to cut his victims open to insert keys n shit.

Anyway, gonna go to bed now, cya later.

notiz when you come on look at this hint. its the role i gave you in bus driver XD

ika
May 12th, 2013, 03:54 PM
btw crypt i dont think you are sk though. i think you would of targeted me n1

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 03:54 PM
Current possible SK:
1. Ika
2. Noctiz
3. Noctis
4. Orpz
5. Slenderman

If anyone has any extra information to add to prove your innocence, or another person's innocence, please step forward.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 03:56 PM
Current possible SK:
1. Ika
2. Noctiz
3. Noctis
4. Orpz
5. Slenderman

If anyone has any extra information to add to prove your innocence, or another person's innocence, please step forward.

so why is it me number 1? your entire focus is only based on biassed reason and emotions. feel free to lynch me just know you will die next then

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 03:56 PM
notiz when you come on look at this hint. its the role i gave you in bus driver XD


So, you're thinking you can trust NoctiZ and can reveal your role to him, even though he has said nothing to confirm himself? Just claim a role, so we can get a ball rolling.
The only person I don't need a rolecall from today is Titus.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 03:56 PM
so why is it me number 1? your entire focus is only based on biassed reason and emotions. feel free to lynch me just know you will die next then

because that's the list of the signups derp

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 03:57 PM
Current possible SK:
1. Ika
2. Noctiz
3. Noctis
4. Orpz
5. Slenderman

If anyone has any extra information to add to prove your innocence, or another person's innocence, please step forward.


Wow. I managed to be clearly town while talking about civilization and claiming "ask court".

This seems thrown together.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 03:58 PM
Wow. I managed to be clearly town while talking about civilization and claiming "ask court".

This seems thrown together.

Please read the thread.
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/19858-S-FM-83-Double-Killers?p=319336&viewfull=1#post319336

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 03:59 PM
Ok this happened far too fast. I'm sorry I missed your post outing as sheriff.

Looks like I've been promoted to town leader again. I was trying not to be I swear.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 04:00 PM
So, you're thinking you can trust NoctiZ and can reveal your role to him, even though he has said nothing to confirm himself? Just claim a role, so we can get a ball rolling.
The only person I don't need a rolecall from today is Titus.

i already claimed your just too lazy to check what he was.

your entire fos on me is a biassed reason. all i did was sit at home with my armor

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 04:00 PM
Ok this happened far too fast. I'm sorry I missed your post outing as sheriff.

Looks like I've been promoted to town leader again. I was trying not to be I swear.

You're not town leader, you're just confirmed non-SK. For all I know, you're the Neutral.

NoctiZ
May 12th, 2013, 04:00 PM
ika claims survivor.

Nothing happened to me. Me on phone, me lying in bed. Me sleeps nao.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 04:01 PM
Ok this happened far too fast. I'm sorry I missed your post outing as sheriff.

Looks like I've been promoted to town leader again. I was trying not to be I swear.

go ahead titus idc this time. my role doesnt need to lead. it just needs to sheep

ika
May 12th, 2013, 04:01 PM
ika claims survivor.

Nothing happened to me. Me on phone, me lying in bed. Me sleeps nao.

lolz noctiz i knew you would get a kick out of me getting this role. so anyway im just gonna let titus lead this one

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 04:02 PM
ok I will just check ika tonight and clear him, then.

also: why does the setup say there is a Traumatized Surgeon here: http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/19695-S-FM-Double-Killers
but in post one, it says there is an Escort instead? Which is Correct?

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 04:03 PM
Whoever was roleblocked last night needs to step forward, so we can have a confirmed town.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 04:03 PM
I prefer if Titus isn't town leader if she's skipping over posts. Just sayin'

ika
May 12th, 2013, 04:04 PM
well i wasnt rbed. i think escort can come from hidden scince we were allowed to leave lws. as survivor i will only be doing hammering as well

ika
May 12th, 2013, 04:05 PM
I prefer if Titus isn't town leader if she's skipping over posts. Just sayin'

i think its the fact that we are posting so fast that she cant keep up. meh im not taking leader this time

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 04:05 PM
ika claims survivor.

Nothing happened to me. Me on phone, me lying in bed. Me sleeps nao.

This is troubling. Every other post is that he's leaving or is survivor. Normally, I'd say lynch survivor claimers but that looks like a jester move to me.

@cryptonic. I wasn't skipping over posts. Things happened so fast though. I'm human.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 04:06 PM
Titus, what role do you claim?
I actually want to target a confirmed town tonight to ensure that I am not Insane Sheriff.

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 04:07 PM
I'm trolling with my claim to protect power roles. So I'd rather not out. However, if you ask again, I will out my role.

You're not insane by the way. I'm not the SK.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 04:08 PM
I'm trolling with my claim to protect power roles. So I'd rather not out. However, if you ask again, I will out my role.

You're not insane by the way. I'm not the SK.

does survivor asking count?

also if crypt check me and hes insane i should show evil

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 04:08 PM
Does a Sheriff detect the Neutrals as Not Suspicious?

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 04:09 PM
does survivor asking count?

also if crypt check me and hes insane i should show evil

Look at this, he's already coming up with an excuse as to why he would show up as Suspicious, while simultaneously framing Titus.

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 04:09 PM
Wait, ika are you claiming survivor?

@Crypt, yes neuts show up as ns.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 04:10 PM
Wait, ika are you claiming survivor?

@Crypt, yes neuts show up as ns.

Yep, that's what he claimed.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 04:11 PM
Wait, ika are you claiming survivor?

@Crypt, yes neuts show up as ns.

si senorita. thats why im letting you lead this game. im just gonna be the hammer voter. other then that im prob gonna lurk/comment

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 04:13 PM
I'm a plain old citizen. Nothing special. I was trying to draw the attention of the SKs. It didn't work. My troll skills need improvement.

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 04:16 PM
Yep, that's what he claimed.

Crypt, I'd recommend checking NoctiZ. He might be jester, but I don't like his popping in and out.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 04:16 PM
I'm a plain old citizen. Nothing special. I was trying to draw the attention of the SKs. It didn't work. My troll skills need improvement.

i can help with that.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 04:16 PM
Here i'm going to sum up today so far. I will update this throughout the thread I guess lol
This will update again once pod gives a verdict on the correct setup.



Roleclaims
Cryptonic: Sheriff
Ika: Survivor


Information given
Titus is NS to Cryptonic n1


Feedback
None


Living Players
1. Ika
2. Cryptonic
3. Creedkingsx
4. Noctis
5. Titus
6. Orpz
7. Slenderman


Remaining Roles
Serial Killer
hidden role
hidden role
hidden role
Sheriff
Traumatized Surgeon
Hidden Neutral



This will be my last post until new people start posting their information and feedback.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 04:17 PM
Crypt, I'd recommend checking NoctiZ. He might be jester, but I don't like his popping in and out.

i already climed survivor and he confirmed it. wouldnt ching jester = same results as checking me as survivor?

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 04:18 PM
quick update:

Here i'm going to sum up today so far. I will update this throughout the thread I guess lol
This will update again once pod gives a verdict on the correct setup.



Roleclaims
Cryptonic: Sheriff
Ika: Survivor
Titus: Citizen


Information given
Titus is NS to Cryptonic n1


Feedback
None


Living Players
1. Ika
2. Cryptonic
3. Creedkingsx
4. Noctis
5. Titus
6. Orpz
7. Slenderman


Remaining Roles
Serial Killer
hidden role
hidden role
hidden role
Sheriff
Traumatized Surgeon
Hidden Neutral



This will be my last post until new people start posting their information and feedback.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 04:18 PM
Here i'm going to sum up today so far. I will update this throughout the thread I guess lol
This will update again once pod gives a verdict on the correct setup.



Roleclaims
Cryptonic: Sheriff
Ika: Survivor


Information given
Titus is NS to Cryptonic n1


Feedback
None


Living Players
1. Ika
2. Cryptonic
3. Creedkingsx
4. Noctis
5. Titus
6. Orpz
7. Slenderman


Remaining Roles
Serial Killer
hidden role
hidden role
hidden role
Sheriff
Traumatized Surgeon
Hidden Neutral



This will be my last post until new people start posting their information and feedback.

seeing how you are leaving i will take a leave unless titus want help on how to troll ppl

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 04:20 PM
i already climed survivor and he confirmed it. wouldnt ching jester = same results as checking me as survivor?

Yes it would. However, abandoning the group is also an indicator of scum as well. Checking him resolves if he's ns or not, so we will or won't have to worry about him being the SK.

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 04:21 PM
seeing how you are leaving i will take a leave unless titus want help on how to troll ppl

I will be around, sorta. As for help being a troll, not in the game thread. That would derail town.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 04:22 PM
I will be around, sorta. As for help being a troll, not in the game thread. That would derail town.

k see ya later then

Noctis
May 12th, 2013, 05:37 PM
Just read through the info, gotta sleep though so if you don't need me for anything in particular i really should be sleeping.

If you need me i can spare some time.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 06:02 PM
Just read through the info, gotta sleep though so if you don't need me for anything in particular i really should be sleeping.

If you need me i can spare some time.

Did anything happen to you last night?

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 06:03 PM
SlenderMan, please check in. I sees you online.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 06:03 PM
Noctis, too.

Noctis
May 12th, 2013, 06:04 PM
Nada. Nothing of note.

powerofdeath
May 12th, 2013, 06:05 PM
Does a Sheriff detect the Neutrals as Not Suspicious?

Yes

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 06:05 PM
Nada. Nothing of note.

rgr

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 06:06 PM
also: why does the setup say there is a Traumatized Surgeon here: http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/19695-S-FM-Double-Killers
but in post one, it says there is an Escort instead? Which is Correct?

??

Noctis
May 12th, 2013, 06:07 PM
rgr

Wut?

powerofdeath
May 12th, 2013, 06:09 PM
ok I will just check ika tonight and clear him, then.

also: why does the setup say there is a Traumatized Surgeon here: http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/19695-S-FM-Double-Killers
but in post one, it says there is an Escort instead? Which is Correct?

The old set up was 2 sks, 4 random town, sheriff, doc, escort, and neut
Because people thought town was op because sk can kill eachother
I removed random town and escort and added traumatized surgeon

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 06:11 PM
The old set up was 2 sks, 4 random town, sheriff, doc, escort, and neut
Because people thought town was op because sk can kill eachother
I removed random town and escort and added traumatized surgeon



Two men who failed high school are tired of everyone being so smart and going to college to get their degrees. Those two men wanted to be successful in life and become someone important like a doctor or a sheriff. They are tired of it! They decided to start killing innocent people. While one of them was sharpening their blade to prepare for his first kill, a scream was heard nearby and the town came to this corpse. It was Johnny Appleseed. His role was the president of the United States. While the person who was sharpening his blade, realized he was not alone, he knew somebody was with him but he doesn't know who.

I will appoint my vice president Powerofdeath to become the next president. Please give this million dollar to my only son: Bobby Appleseed. To honor my death, there shall be no day 1 lynch!

Set up:
Serial Killer
Serial Killer
hidden role
hidden role
hidden role
hidden role
Sheriff
Doctor
Escort
Hidden Neutral

Player list:
1. Ika
2. Ypmagic
3. Cryptonic
4. Bunny
5. Creedkingsx ---> Noctiz
6. Noctis
7. Titus
8. Orpz
9. Slenderman

Link to the set up (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/19791-S-FM-Double-Killers)

Day 1 will end at this time (http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=8pm+May+11th+EST&x=0&y=0)

/go

in your first post it says escort, can you edit it pls

powerofdeath
May 12th, 2013, 06:14 PM
WHOOPS ok its edited

ika
May 12th, 2013, 06:14 PM
permission to vote host for lolz?

ika
May 12th, 2013, 06:15 PM
can powerofdeath be modkilled? he edited a post and its against the rules

Noctis
May 12th, 2013, 06:18 PM
I'll be more responsive after i sleep, back tomorrow.

powerofdeath
May 12th, 2013, 06:19 PM
I CAN EDIT POSTS BECAUSE IM THE PRESIDENT I IGNORE ALL LAWS! AND YOU NEED 999 VOTES TO LYNCH ME

ika
May 12th, 2013, 06:20 PM
well seeing how we are not doing much

powerofdeath

SlenderMan
May 12th, 2013, 06:48 PM
SlenderMan, please check in. I sees you online.

Slendy is online and doing fine.

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 07:12 PM
Any feedback Slender?

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 07:32 PM
I'm gonna do this without reading cause 1 SK's already dead.

Slenderman came back SK.
I may or may not be Insane. Slenderman may or may not be SK.
Slenderman

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 07:35 PM
Slenderman

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 07:36 PM
Wat. If Crypt was Sheriff, he'd know Insane Sheriff is possible instead of being so adamant on Titus being cleared. Die scum.
Cryptonic

ika
May 12th, 2013, 07:37 PM
and shits get real

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 07:39 PM
Roleclaims
Cryptonic: Sheriff
Ika: Survivor
Titus: Citizen
Orpz: Sheriff


Information given
Titus is NS to Cryptonic n1
Slenderman came back SK to Orpz n1


Feedback
None


Living Players
1. Ika
2. Cryptonic
3. Creedkingsx
4. Noctis
5. Titus
6. Orpz
7. Slenderman


Remaining Roles
Serial Killer
hidden role
hidden role
hidden role
Sheriff
Traumatized Surgeon
Hidden Neutral



If we lynch Slenderman, we will confirm Orpz as sane or insane.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 07:41 PM
Titus, what role do you claim?
I actually want to target a confirmed town tonight to ensure that I am not Insane Sheriff.

no i pointed out i could be insane. lol
nice try, though. are you actually a sheriff/insane sheriff, or were you just doing some dumb gambit?

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 07:42 PM
What I know

1) Crypt is sane sheriff or SK.
2) Orpz is possible sane sheriff, insane sheriff or SK.
3) Slenderman should claim.
4) NoctiZ is independently scummy and should claim.
5) ika is likely the true neutral.
6) Titus is one of the town hiddens (citizen)

I don't think an SK would claim sheriff so soon. This close to lynching Slenderman but I think Orpz is likely insane.

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 07:42 PM
no i pointed out i could be insane. lol
nice try, though. are you actually a sheriff/insane sheriff, or were you just doing some dumb gambit?

I'm actually an (Insane) Sheriff.
Let's get all the role calls before we figure shit out.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 07:44 PM
What I know

1) Crypt is sane sheriff or SK.
2) Orpz is possible sane sheriff, insane sheriff or SK.
3) Slenderman should claim.
4) NoctiZ is independently scummy and should claim.
5) ika is likely the true neutral.
6) Titus is one of the town hiddens (citizen)

I don't think an SK would claim sheriff so soon. This close to lynching Slenderman but I think Orpz is likely insane.

But look at it this way:

We know nothing about Slenderman. He's not sharing at all. It's possible we are both sane.
Slenderman would be a safe lynch for today, then you add a Sheriff got a guilty read on him? Let's just go with that for today, have the Traumatized Surgeon on me or Orpz, and we will both check other people of our own choosing.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 07:45 PM
I'm actually an (Insane) Sheriff.
Let's get all the role calls before we figure shit out.

how do you know you're insane? did your rolecard say insane?

fuck this, Orpz is Jester. Ika is SK, imo.

What do you guys think about that?

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 07:46 PM
Wtf? I left the Insane in parathesis to imply it may or may not be.

I will check NoctiZ if he doesn't claim.

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 07:47 PM
Good attempt to discredit though.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 07:47 PM
Wtf? I left the Insane in parathesis to imply it may or may not be.

I will check NoctiZ if he doesn't claim.

Ok, then let's lynch Slenderman and find out if you're insane or not.
Slenderman

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 07:49 PM
ika being the sk is possible. However, he seems to be very pro town and not really giving a crap at the same time because town appears to be in the position of relative power. Usually, ika and I bicker a lot. I don't know but I don't think he's the sk.

Replace that with NoctiZ and I'd be more likely to buy sk.

Noctis is more dangerous to me if he was the sk because I have never played with him before.

I'd like to hear Slenderman claim IMO.

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 07:50 PM
Ok, then let's lynch Slenderman and find out if you're insane or not.
Slenderman

By that logic we can also lynch Titus to find out if you're insane or not.
Let's wait for Slender to claim, right now I find you scummier than him.

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 07:50 PM
ika being the sk is possible. However, he seems to be very pro town and not really giving a crap at the same time because town appears to be in the position of relative power. Usually, ika and I bicker a lot. I don't know but I don't think he's the sk.

Replace that with NoctiZ and I'd be more likely to buy sk.

Noctis is more dangerous to me if he was the sk because I have never played with him before.

I'd like to hear Slenderman claim IMO.

Where was ika pro-town?

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 07:51 PM
Here is what should be done.
We lynch Slenderman to confirm whether or not Orpz is sane/insane.
Then, if Slenderman isn't SK, me and Orpz both check NoctiZ; This will confirm if I am sane/insane, and also gets a read on NoctiZ.
Traumatized Surgeon should be on the obvious target!

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 07:53 PM
ika has made posts trying to poke lurkers out of hiding.

@Crypt, I know you're sane or lying. Therefore, either there are two sane sheriffs or Orpz is insane.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 07:53 PM
By that logic we can also lynch Titus to find out if you're insane or not.
Let's wait for Slender to claim, right now I find you scummier than him.

Yes, trying to make everyone claim their information and not wanting to lynch the person who came back NS. Honestly, find a game where Insane Sheriff was actually used. lol
If you claimed your target came back NS aswell, I would've wanted to lynch Titus.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 07:54 PM
what do you think is more likely? We're both sane, or we're both insane?

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 07:56 PM
Here is what should be done.
We lynch Slenderman to confirm whether or not Orpz is sane/insane.
Then, if Slenderman isn't SK, me and Orpz both check NoctiZ; This will confirm if I am sane/insane, and also gets a read on NoctiZ.
Traumatized Surgeon should be on the obvious target!

Honestly, just do this.
After we both check NoctiZ, if he isn't SK, then it will prove if Titus is SK or not.
This is assuming we're both not sane, and Slenderman is town.

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 07:56 PM
The thing is, I find you suspicious since SK can pretty much just claim sheriff, be proven "sane", and then say everyone's Town.

Sadly, the reverse is true for Insane, making this a shitclusterfuckofshittytitties.

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 07:58 PM
what do you think is more likely? We're both sane, or we're both insane?

Either or them are more likely than 2 Sheriffs existing in this setup, sane or not.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 08:00 PM
Ok, what if I am SK... let's think about a solution for that.
Is it revealed if I was insane or not upon death?
How about this:

We lynch Slenderman to determine if you are Insane or Sane.
Tonight, you check me and prove my innocence.
Traumatized Surgeon will be on you.
If my exact role is revealed upon death, then you will know if Titus if the SK or not. Cause let's face it, I will die tonight.
Can't risk taking the Surgeon off Orpz (he will know if he's sane/insane if he actually is a sheriff).

ika
May 12th, 2013, 08:03 PM
like i said survivor i dont give a crap. im just gonna hammer only

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 08:05 PM
Serial Killer
Serial Killer Who would have killed Bunny in this scenario?
hidden role
Sane or Insane Sheriff
Citizen
Sheriff
Doctor
Traumatized Surgeon
Survivor (ika)

I don't think either of the sheriffs is the target tonight. Keeping you both alive keeps the sane, insane debate going for a little while.

The SK would need to eliminate the doctor anyway. That would be his lynch target.

Slenderman or one of the NoctiZ/Noctis is the SK.

My money is on Noctis and that Orpz is insane. The balance would be ruined with two sane sheriffs IMO.

SlenderMan
May 12th, 2013, 08:06 PM
Daym guys. Okay I'll reveal. Im escort and were blocking Noctis first night. Didnt die so he aint the SK i guess.

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 08:07 PM
Ok, what if I am SK... let's think about a solution for that.
Is it revealed if I was insane or not upon death?
How about this:

We lynch Slenderman to determine if you are Insane or Sane.
Tonight, you check me and prove my innocence.
Traumatized Surgeon will be on you.
If my exact role is revealed upon death, then you will know if Titus if the SK or not. Cause let's face it, I will die tonight.
Can't risk taking the Surgeon off Orpz (he will know if he's sane/insane if he actually is a sheriff).

This is ok. I am ok with this plan.
But Slendy has revealed to be escort so let's think things though more.
I'm going through with this if we lynch Slendy.
If not, we crosscheck Noctiz.

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 08:08 PM
wait fuck. do you guys think Noctis or Noctiz is the SK?
I keep mixing them up. they both scummy to me

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 08:08 PM
If Noctis is Town, he can confirm this roleblock and we'll have two more confirmed Towns.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 08:20 PM
Daym guys. Okay I'll reveal. Im escort and were blocking Noctis first night. Didnt die so he aint the SK i guess.

Ok, so SK is either NoctiZ or Titus I guess.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 08:22 PM
I wonder why Noctis didn't reveal he was rb'd

ika
May 12th, 2013, 08:24 PM
I wonder why Noctis didn't reveal he was rb'd

well if he was wouldnt escort be dead? but oh wells

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 08:25 PM
well if he was wouldnt escort be dead? but oh wells

Yea, I was saying Slender isn't confirmed. Noctis needs to verify. Either way, Noctis is confirmed town.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 08:26 PM
Yea, I was saying Slender isn't confirmed. Noctis needs to verify. Either way, Noctis is confirmed town.

fair enough

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 08:26 PM
Nada. Nothing of note.

This post implies no feedback.

Either Slenderman lied about being escort or Noctis lied about no feedback. There is option C host fucked up but I doubt it.

Slenderman is unlikely to lie about a verifiable role. So that leaves me with one question. Please check the setup before replying.

Does the SK kill roleblockers? Furthermore, is the SK immune to roleblocking?

SlenderMan
May 12th, 2013, 08:26 PM
I wonder why Noctis didn't reveal he was rb'd

I don't know. Should I have gotten a message saying that the roleblock was successfull? Cuz I didn't.

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 08:27 PM
So should we get Slenderman right now?

nothing happened to Noctis so...

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 08:27 PM
Slenderman why did you kill Bunny?

SlenderMan
May 12th, 2013, 08:29 PM
Slenderman why did you kill Bunny?

I didn't! :( You guys hate me cuz I'm teh Slenderman

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 08:29 PM
lol well maybe we should just confirm Orpz's sanity and go with that one plan that he agreed with.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 08:30 PM
slenderman

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 08:31 PM
Ok. Just looked at the setup. SK kills roleblockers. Therefore, Noctis is not the SK. However, he didn't claim the roleblock. The question there is why? Did it never happen?

I doubt the SK is stupid enough to claim such a verifiable lie. He'd probably claim cit or traumatized surgeon.

I say we vote NoctiZ. Surgeon on Crypt because I know he is sane. Crypt then checks Slenderman. He'll have no way out then.

NoctiZ

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 08:34 PM
but why would Noctis say nothing happened to him since he's Town? what the fuck?
I demand both Noctis and Slendy check their mails again.
Otherwise, I'm lynching Slenderman today.

SlenderMan
May 12th, 2013, 08:34 PM
-vote Noctiz

Im going for that one too.

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 08:35 PM
-vote Noctiz

Im going for that one too.

you vote using vote tags:

to vote X,
you would do [vote]X[ /vote]

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 08:35 PM
also that post was scummy af

ika
May 12th, 2013, 08:35 PM
-vote Noctiz

Im going for that one too.

you need offical vote counter its [vote]insert name here[/ vote] just remove space

SlenderMan
May 12th, 2013, 08:36 PM
As I said just recently I didn't get a confirmation about my roleblock so it might not have happened.

SlenderMan
May 12th, 2013, 08:37 PM
NoctiZ

Sorry my bad. New to forum mafia :3

ika
May 12th, 2013, 08:39 PM
NoctiZ

Sorry my bad. New to forum mafia :3

i used to do it too. its more commonly used in other games to put it

but some host do manual vote counters where that would be acceptable. you just have to check what host says. in this case its offical voter

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 08:41 PM
NoctiZ

Sorry my bad. New to forum mafia :3

Why do you want to lynch NoctiZ?

ika
May 12th, 2013, 08:42 PM
ok im gonna unvote on power so it clears it up

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 08:49 PM
NoctiZ is the clearest path to verify who is scum and who isn't. Orpz can verify if he's sane or insane by checking me. If I come back SK, then Orpz is insane. Two people cannot be SK. Therefore, Crypt is sane or SK.

Slenderman, meanwhile, roleblocks me. I'm citizen so it won't hurt and I'll get the feedback if he's escort.

Crypt checks Slenderman. Slenderman (supposing Orpz is insane) should come back SK.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 08:51 PM
NoctiZ is the clearest path to verify who is scum and who isn't. Orpz can verify if he's sane or insane by checking me. If I come back SK, then Orpz is insane. Two people cannot be SK. Therefore, Crypt is sane or SK.

Slenderman, meanwhile, roleblocks me. I'm citizen so it won't hurt and I'll get the feedback if he's escort.

Crypt checks Slenderman. Slenderman (supposing Orpz is insane) should come back SK.

and i sit here with a vest.

Titus
May 12th, 2013, 08:51 PM
Guys it is in the setup. No one is informed of being roleblocked. I cannot believe I missed that. That explains a lot.

Crypt is sane/SK
Orpz is likely insane.
Slenderman is escort/SK.
Noctis has no feedback. Likely he's trauma surgeon.
Then there's NoctiZ whose words are pretty much I am out of here.
ika's the survivor. If NoctiZ flips jester, we lynch ika.

Cryptonic
May 12th, 2013, 08:54 PM
hmmm escorts don't give feedback eh... lol
then I guess I'll go with NoctiZ

NoctiZ

if not, Slender should block... idk, titus? that way the Escort can't be used to frame town.

Orpz
May 12th, 2013, 08:56 PM
-holyfuckialmosthammered-

Yeah Slenderman should just stay on Titus...

If Noctiz is not Serial Killer, should we cross check? or what.
cause we might both end up having the same sanity.

ika
May 12th, 2013, 08:59 PM
TROLL SURVIVOR TIME

NoctiZ

The Godfather
May 12th, 2013, 08:59 PM
NoctiZ has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!

powerofdeath
May 13th, 2013, 03:02 AM
As Noctiz was walking around trying to find the doctor to fix his shoulder wound, he finally found the doctor. The Doctor asked him what happened to his shoulder. Noctiz told him it was some kind of accidents. The doctor discovered there were two different kind of blood on him, his own and somebody else. He assumed it was Bunny blood. The doctor told Noctiz he will be right back. The doctor went and summoned the town. The town came in the doctor office and picked up Noctiz, tied him up and brought him out. They all marched to his execution. They stood him up, tied the rope around his neck, and asked noctiz for any last words? Noctiz did not say anything, he just spitted on the executioner's face. "May the god have mercy upon your soul Noctiz" the president said. As noctiz fell down, his neck did not break. He had to suffocate to a painful death. Eventually he died. They discovered his role was Serial Killer.

The town won!

Bunny- serial killer
Noctiz- serial killer
Cryptonic- sheriff
Orpz- insane sheriff
Slenderman- escort
Noctis- traumatized surgeon
Ypmagic-doctor
Titus-citizen
Ika-survivor

powerofdeath
May 13th, 2013, 03:04 AM
When noctiz told me he would kill bunny, i was like ah shit... Game over /:

You may vote for MVP

Noctis
May 13th, 2013, 04:25 AM
This is what happens when you sleep, you miss out on all the good stuff :(

powerofdeath
May 13th, 2013, 04:30 AM
Let me know if you want me to remake this, i can make sk immune and town a little bit more op like back to 7 towns instead of 6?

Noctis
May 13th, 2013, 05:19 AM
I'm down with it, this was a learning exercise for me more than anything ^.^

Bunny
May 13th, 2013, 05:21 AM
ahaha what a silly game, i'd sure yu can re do it like with busdrivers or small round if you want!

NoctiZ
May 13th, 2013, 05:32 AM
My thought process during this game:

*I get replacement message*
"Okay sure, why not."

*I get SK*
"Goddamnit."

*I was about to go to bed, day starts early.*
"Goddamnit."

*I see that I killed my fellow SK Bunny.*
"Goddamnit."


I do think that SK should be immune during the night. It's essentially a trade off, 1 KPN vs the identity of the other SK. 7vs2 + 1 Neutral would be a good game IMO.

ika
May 13th, 2013, 06:19 AM
notiz that was good. i thought it was funny when i was like hey nocitz, "im survivor"

Orpz
May 13th, 2013, 06:26 AM
well tits. there really was 2 sheriffs

Cryptonic
May 13th, 2013, 06:29 AM
Yea, you just have to resubmit it to the queue.

gg everyone! scum had bad luck :(

ika
May 13th, 2013, 06:35 AM
btw great job on the rp i liked it

powerofdeath
May 13th, 2013, 08:37 AM
Yeah i worked hard on my rps, i wanted you guys to enjoy it when i host instead of I'm just some another host of some another set up

ika
May 13th, 2013, 08:38 AM
Yeah i worked hard on my rps, i wanted you guys to enjoy it when i host instead of I'm just some another host of some another set up

ya the players dont always comment on it but most of them will read it. I always read them when ppl do it. Keep it up!

powerofdeath
May 13th, 2013, 09:26 AM
Players role are hand chosen by my 6 year old neighbor. So it was more like random anyway. I wasnt surprised she chose bunny to be sk because she love bunnies

ika
May 13th, 2013, 09:29 AM
Players role are hand chosen by my 6 year old neighbor. So it was more like random anyway. I wasnt surprised she chose bunny to be sk because she love bunnies

thats even better then ppl doing the random.org

Cryptonic
May 13th, 2013, 09:30 AM
thats even better then ppl doing the random.org

biased selection > RNG ? :P idk man

ika
May 13th, 2013, 09:32 AM
biased selection > RNG ? :P idk man

the 6 yr old doesnt even know who we are all the kid could go on really is names. there could be some sligt bias (slender getting escort = stalking) but if a host want to hand pick whats to stop them?

Bunny
May 13th, 2013, 09:32 AM
randoming is always better

ika
May 13th, 2013, 09:34 AM
randoming is always better

but might not be as fun for the host/players. if the host knows if player X gets role Y that they will just sit there and lurk they should be inclined to not give it to them. each side has its own goods and bads. its all about prefrence

Cryptonic
May 13th, 2013, 09:36 AM
the 6 yr old doesnt even know who we are all the kid could go on really is names. there could be some sligt bias (slender getting escort = stalking) but if a host want to hand pick whats to stop them?

I'm not saying a host can't hand pick roles. Every host has done it before, it's not a big deal to choose them yourself. But, it's NOT better than a RNG. Look at Gerik's game, with clementine and Slaol as scum lol. Someone could've easily picked up on that. Biases are what creates host meta.

No meta could've been used via pod's way, solely because we didn't know a 6 year old chose our roles during the game. lol

Bunny
May 13th, 2013, 09:39 AM
randoming also gives players a variety of roles to play as!

ika
May 13th, 2013, 09:41 AM
I'm not saying a host can't hand pick roles. Every host has done it before, it's not a big deal to choose them yourself. But, it's NOT better than a RNG. Look at Gerik's game, with clementine and Slaol as scum lol. Someone could've easily picked up on that. Biases are what creates host meta.

No meta could've been used via pod's way, solely because we didn't know a 6 year old chose our roles during the game. lol

but you used bias in the game right at the begining of day to to say that i was sk did you not?

again you are just illiterating. random =/= always better. if someone new gets awsome town role and gets lynched becasued they looked scummy to all the good players its bad randoming. look the trust the exe randomed town and target was town. thats bad randoming. if he was town aligned it should of been the foucs on the cult or sk. or have the exe be the nutral and then allow it be there. the fact that randoming can create imballence is the porblem. when host does hand pick they can hand out the roles and make it more ballenced

ika
May 13th, 2013, 09:43 AM
randoming also gives players a variety of roles to play as!

but also give players to get roles they dislike playing as and then just sit there and not use it. if someone gets randomed a cit role every game, do you think they would still want to play? what if they got role X finnaly just to die n1? The host might make it that they get the role they like and can use.

Bunny
May 13th, 2013, 09:43 AM
but you used bias in the game right at the begining of day to to say that i was sk did you not?

again you are just illiterating. random =/= always better. if someone new gets awsome town role and gets lynched becasued they looked scummy to all the good players its bad randoming. look the trust the exe randomed town and target was town. thats bad randoming. if he was town aligned it should of been the foucs on the cult or sk. or have the exe be the nutral and then allow it be there. the fact that randoming can create imballence is the porblem. when host does hand pick they can hand out the roles and make it more ballenced
he said that because he thinks you dont like me and would kill me n1

ika
May 13th, 2013, 09:46 AM
he said that because he thinks you dont like me and would kill me n1

leads to biassed reason. you just renforced my point. thanks for doing that

Bunny
May 13th, 2013, 09:47 AM
leads to biassed reason. you just renforced my point. thanks for doing that

yes but that has nothing to do with hosts role selection..

ika
May 13th, 2013, 09:48 AM
yes but that has nothing to do with hosts role selection..

but it does have to do with what i was talking about in there

Cryptonic
May 13th, 2013, 09:48 AM
but you used bias in the game right at the begining of day to to say that i was sk did you not?

again you are just illiterating. random =/= always better. if someone new gets awsome town role and gets lynched becasued they looked scummy to all the good players its bad randoming. look the trust the exe randomed town and target was town. thats bad randoming. if he was town aligned it should of been the foucs on the cult or sk. or have the exe be the nutral and then allow it be there. the fact that randoming can create imballence is the porblem. when host does hand pick they can hand out the roles and make it more ballenced

no, that's bad playing by the person looking scummy, and rushed actions by the "good players".
And we're talking about roles here, not who an Executioners target is.

Also, what is illiterating? Not to sound offensive, but I just don't understand what you were trying to say. Being illiterate means one can't read.

I also agree with Bunny's above post. My last 5 or so games I've completely random'd, because I have been finding it unfair how people are like "Oh, your first game? Citizen. Oh hey, it's creed, he can be Godfather." It just gets old to be given the same roles over and over and over. Randoming gives one more of a variety, and makes it more fair for new players.

Once again, I'm not saying you can't hand pick your roles. Every host has done this and games work fine. But there have been games where people lynch others because of host meta and were correct.

Cryptonic
May 13th, 2013, 09:50 AM
leads to biassed reason. you just renforced my point. thanks for doing that

And because you can use meta in a game like that.
You don't random.org your night actions, so it's more likely that you'll be able to guess what someone is going to do. You seemed like someone who would kill Bunny n1, so I jumped on it to see your reaction and make you role claim. If you noticed, I jumped on everyone to try to get people to claim roles and feedback and night actions. lol You weren't singled out.

ika
May 13th, 2013, 09:55 AM
no, that's bad playing by the person looking scummy, and rushed actions by the "good players".
And we're talking about roles here, not who an Executioners target is.

Also, what is illiterating? Not to sound offensive, but I just don't understand what you were trying to say. Being illiterate means one can't read.

I also agree with Bunny's above post. My last 5 or so games I've completely random'd, because I have been finding it unfair how people are like "Oh, your first game? Citizen. Oh hey, it's creed, he can be Godfather." It just gets old to be given the same roles over and over and over. Randoming gives one more of a variety, and makes it more fair for new players.

Once again, I'm not saying you can't hand pick your roles. Every host has done this and games work fine. But there have been games where people lynch others because of host meta and were correct.

i was talking about how randoming can be bad. i was talking about how exe target was town you are changing the subject here.

agree with bunny.... lolz you always do that

if people use host meta to figure out roles then thats them. all im saying to it is that host hand picking vs randoming both have equal benifits in their own way.

ika
May 13th, 2013, 09:56 AM
And because you can use meta in a game like that.
You don't random.org your night actions, so it's more likely that you'll be able to guess what someone is going to do. You seemed like someone who would kill Bunny n1, so I jumped on it to see your reaction and make you role claim. If you noticed, I jumped on everyone to try to get people to claim roles and feedback and night actions. lol You weren't singled out.

accaly its kind fun to random.org n1 actions if you dont have much to go on.

the moment the day becun you fosed me first on biassed reasoning. when nocitz confirmed me you laied off. i bet if i contiuned you would of contiuned to go on me using your biassed reason

Bunny
May 13th, 2013, 10:00 AM
i was talking about how randoming can be bad. i was talking about how exe target was town you are changing the subject here.

agree with bunny.... lolz you always do that

if people use host meta to figure out roles then thats them. all im saying to it is that host hand picking vs randoming both have equal benifits in their own way.

lol so you'd rather not play a variety of roles?

Cryptonic
May 13th, 2013, 10:00 AM
i was talking about how randoming can be bad. i was talking about how exe target was town you are changing the subject here.

agree with bunny.... lolz you always do that

if people use host meta to figure out roles then thats them. all im saying to it is that host hand picking vs randoming both have equal benifits in their own way.

No man, you changed the subject, not me! Executioner's targets are always town in FMs, even if they don't specify that they are. It is known that it would throw off the balance if the Exec was targeting a scum.. But we're not talking about Executioner's targets, we're still talking about handing out rolecard lolol The 2 situations are completely independant.

And me agreeing with Bunny isn't because she's my wife. Even if someone like Slaol said that, I would've agreed. You don't agree that randomly assigning roles gives a larger variety to players? :o I think it would.. I think randoming roles is a lot fairer to all players, rather than giving your friends the good roles.

Cryptonic
May 13th, 2013, 10:02 AM
accaly its kind fun to random.org n1 actions if you dont have much to go on.

the moment the day becun you fosed me first on biassed reasoning. when nocitz confirmed me you laied off. i bet if i contiuned you would of contiuned to go on me using your biassed reason

LOL no one confirmed you man.
If you were SK, you could have just as easily said the same line and faked Survivor. You said the SK cleared you? Seriously, come on man. You weren't confirmed non-SK at all. I backed off of you because you finally claimed a role, and there was no reason to be trying to force a lynch on you anymore.

Bunny
May 13th, 2013, 10:02 AM
I think randoming roles is a lot fairer to all players, rather than giving your friends the good roles.

amen to that! also creates more interesting game play, less predictable.

Cryptonic
May 13th, 2013, 10:04 AM
btw, I'm in no way saying not to hand pick roles. Just that I find it fairer.
And I"m especially not critizing POD's way of picking roles. It was not informed how he was picking roles, so it was basically the same as random.org.

ika
May 13th, 2013, 10:07 AM
No man, you changed the subject, not me! Executioner's targets are always town in FMs, even if they don't specify that they are. It is known that it would throw off the balance if the Exec was targeting a scum.. But we're not talking about Executioner's targets, we're still talking about handing out rolecard lolol The 2 situations are completely independant.

And me agreeing with Bunny isn't because she's my wife. Even if someone like Slaol said that, I would've agreed. You don't agree that randomly assigning roles gives a larger variety to players? :o I think it would.. I think randoming roles is a lot fairer to all players, rather than giving your friends the good roles.

pffff if you remember from anohter thread (that i wont mention becasue it got removed) you always side with bunny. and yes you change the subject i was pointing it out. it seems like every time we get into a game you use biassed reasong to point me as scum or something dumb. i bet bunny would do the same. i bet if you were sk you would of shot me first, you always make first assumptions based of biassed reasoning.

randoming can be biassed as well. if someone does random and sees that one person gets a bad role they can go "let me redo it" and contiune to do it. if the host is freind with everyone in the game there can the host creat bias? if a game was full of new players can the host creat bias?

@bunny lolz all you can do is agree with crypt.

Cryptonic
May 13th, 2013, 10:27 AM
pffff if you remember from anohter thread (that i wont mention becasue it got removed) you always side with bunny. and yes you change the subject i was pointing it out. it seems like every time we get into a game you use biassed reasong to point me as scum or something dumb. i bet bunny would do the same. i bet if you were sk you would of shot me first, you always make first assumptions based of biassed reasoning.

randoming can be biassed as well. if someone does random and sees that one person gets a bad role they can go "let me redo it" and contiune to do it. if the host is freind with everyone in the game there can the host creat bias? if a game was full of new players can the host creat bias?

@bunny lolz all you can do is agree with crypt.

ad hominem.

I pointed you out as possible SK because I know you don't like Bunny, as seen by the way you treat her in discussions like this! lol that's why I firstly accused you of being SK. I wasn't like 'OMG IKA IS 100% SK, WE HAVE TO LYNCH HIM'. No, I only did it because I had no other lead and wanted a roleclaim out of you.

Q:if the host is freind with everyone in the game there can the host creat bias?
A: Yes, because you will like some people more than others if you know them all, no matter what.

Q:if a game was full of new players can the host creat bias?
A: No, because you have no relationship with any of the players, therefore there wouldn't be bias. But, if it was a game of 100% new players, i'm 100% sure you'd random. What would be the point of wasting time selecting roles for people based on nothing? I don't get it.


And no, I actually pick my nightly kill targets intelligently. I try to target a person that no one would suspect me to be the killer of.

Also ika, I deleted that last topic because it was getting out of hand and the argument was becoming circular.
All I did was disagree with you (I said randoming is better than hand picking roles), and you started arguing with me about it.

I'm not trying to argue with you. I understand your points. But there is no reason to take this so personally.

Bunny
May 13th, 2013, 10:27 AM
pffff if you remember from anohter thread (that i wont mention becasue it got removed) you always side with bunny. and yes you change the subject i was pointing it out. it seems like every time we get into a game you use biassed reasong to point me as scum or something dumb. i bet bunny would do the same. i bet if you were sk you would of shot me first, you always make first assumptions based of biassed reasoning.

randoming can be biassed as well. if someone does random and sees that one person gets a bad role they can go "let me redo it" and contiune to do it. if the host is freind with everyone in the game there can the host creat bias? if a game was full of new players can the host creat bias?

@bunny lolz all you can do is agree with crypt.

lol i disagree with crypt on a million things a day. your points are bad, thats why we don't agree with you and agree with eachother. It is better to random to avoid host meta, keep it fair and to get a variety of roles in. This is easy stuff, plz try and keep up.

anyways POD: i'd love to play again so I hope you rehost!=] =]

Cryptonic
May 13th, 2013, 10:40 AM
anyways
Orpz for MVP
I find he did a good job. He listened to the information in the day, listened to reasoning, came up with his own thoughts, and in the end he helped town make the right decision; never hindered us. For that, I think it's Orpz.

ika
May 13th, 2013, 01:41 PM
mvp nobody it became a game of role call and just saying if we do this and that things. it was also due tot eh fact that one sk died n1

Damus_Graves
May 13th, 2013, 01:47 PM
Random.org > Handpicking in a setup with this many people.
Handpicking > Random.org in a setup with 20+ players.

ika
May 13th, 2013, 01:47 PM
Random.org > Handpicking in a setup with this many people.
Handpicking > Random.org in a setup with 20+ players.

works for me

BorkBot
May 15th, 2013, 04:35 PM
No man, you changed the subject, not me! Executioner's targets are always town in FMs, even if they don't specify that they are. It is known that it would throw off the balance if the Exec was targeting a scum..
Nope! I ran a game with 2 execs where one had a mafia target and the other had the other exec as his target. And the mafia still won because the 3 doctors didn't believe each other! :p

Slaol
May 15th, 2013, 04:40 PM
In my M-FM the Exec targeted a Joker.

Cryptonic
May 15th, 2013, 04:41 PM
Nope! I ran a game with 2 execs where one had a mafia target and the other had the other exec as his target. And the mafia still won because the 3 doctors didn't believe each other! :p

2 executioners is an exception :p


In my M-FM the Exec targeted a Joker.

how long did he live for?

Damus_Graves
May 15th, 2013, 04:46 PM
Exe: The Whole Game
Joker: Day Two

Slaol
May 15th, 2013, 04:51 PM
Yea 2 days.
Im really not sure why.
Scum lynch him KNOWING HE WAS AN ALLY (*looks at CmG*), and the Exec claimed ;_;.

Good god im not sure what people were thinking lol.

Damus_Graves
May 15th, 2013, 04:52 PM
I was thinking Im getting this day two win.

Cryptonic
May 15th, 2013, 05:10 PM
that's too bad for joker :(

powerofdeath
May 15th, 2013, 05:48 PM
I wouldve hammered the joker but that was my first FM game like ever and didnt know what hammer meant