S-FM 77: Wi Fom City (Deception)

[Titus]

WELCOME TO WIFOM CITY!
Office of Mayor Titus

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/Titus/mayorsoffice.png



Titus has invited you into her office to discuss important matters during the day. She knows that people will disperse during the night and try to battle each other. Still, Titus will enjoy the lack of tension when the town has finally decided to be good or bad.

You enter the door and see a notice hanging from it. "Hello Everyone. Glad you could make it. Just a reminder. No one is lynched today. I don't want blood on the carpet. I'm also available for questions.

Traitor and Undercover, remember to leave notes with one of Titus's many employees around town. Titus will make sure they are delivered.

Goodbye."

Way back in the back of the office is any sort of beverage anyone could want. Also, apparently Mayor Titus has an odd thing for masks and spam. There's some everywhere. There's strange nametags with names no one could ever be born with.





List of Players
ika
Orpz
NoctiZ
TheDarkestLight
Bahkieh
Nazzhoul
Sinclair
creedkingsx
Damus_Graves
powerofdeath
ypmagic - Citizen/Traitor
louiswill - Citizen/Traitor
Fatalis




List of Roles
Bus Driver
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Consigliere
Consort
Doctor
Escort
Framer
Godfather
Investigator
Joker
Traitor








The game has started. It is day. No one will be lynched.

The day will end at this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=April+23rd+10+pm+pdt), which is 24 hours from now.

All night actions must be pmed to Titus using the sc2 mafia pm system by this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=April+23rd+10+pm+pdt), which is 48 hours from now.

Setup can be found here (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18024-S-FM-Wi-Fom-City-%28Deception%29).

No other PMs permitted.

[ika]

FIRST

[Orpz]

ika

[louiswill]

I demand Orpz takes back his vote in 12 hours, Or Orpz you will be my perm enemy in this game----do not regret and blame me game throwing.

I want to make it clear that all town must appear to be responsible to their actions and have duty to explain what they do.

I would permit they to do whatever they want but the thing must be

1. Have a clear reason that the action is beneficial to town-- no matter how terrible it is.

2. declare no personal intention -- feel free to keep in heart

3. Christal clear that no hatred is involved.

4. no sexuality contents.

If anyone violated above rules, I will personally write your name on my death note book which means you will always get +1 vote when more than 5 or 30% people voting you.

If anyone violated two or more rules above, I will always vote +1 guilty vote on you.

Extra rule: Louiswill do not always keep his word. He may even slander and bluff you onto trial if he dislike you.

Get on my good side, otherwise you will all regret that how it is to offense a postfarmer.

Mafia, if you fear that I will stir up your hidden cover, you better get rid of me FAST.

[Orpz]

Citizens of Wi Fom City, I demand that Louiswill be lynched within 2 days or I will kill 2 of you!

[louiswill]

I will comeback in 12 hour, feel free to howl, my friend.:idea: but keep my word in mind.

[louiswill]

How do I write a last will such as 'lynch _____ if I am dead' in FM mafia? do I pm mayor?

[Titus]

How do I write a last will such as 'lynch _____ if I am dead' in FM mafia? do I pm mayor?

In order to write a last will, you PM it to me. Ideally with the subject, Player's Last Will. That will make it easy to spot.

[Orpz]

How do I write a last will such as 'lynch _____ if I am dead' in FM mafia? do I pm mayor?

Are you planning to assume someone is scum because you died on day/night 1?

[louiswill]

Are you planning to assume someone is scum because you died on day/night 1?

I would. If I am dead, I have right to blame whoever I wanted to. Because people would have no one to argue with ---I am dead come on!

Of course, the living would decide tomorrow action.

I probably will not write "lynch" in my last will.

[creedkingsx]

louiswill, just a heads up, if I say anything hurtful to you in this game, don't take it personally. I have an agressive asshole "who invited that guy to this party" kind of face when I play. ^.^
Just a warning.

[creedkingsx]

I claim Doctor, btw.

[louiswill]

I will try to follow my rules above. warning accepted.

Any warning serves as a prevention of hate is always welcome.

People give warning is not considered as scum as others, but it doesn't mean you can get away with anything.

[creedkingsx]

I don't plan to follow your rules. :P

[Damus_Graves]

FIRST
Deductive Observations:
This is a post from Ika.
This post contains the message FIRST in big letters
This message is a claim to attention and attention to him being here when day began.


Inductive Reasoning:

This message makes Ika appear both trolling and whimsical.
This message shows that Ika is not afraid to troll on Day One despite the views of Day One that are publicly know
This message shows that for this post alone Ika is most likely a Citizen




ika

Deductive Obvservations:

Orpz has placed a vote onto Ika
Orpz made this vote on his first post
Orpz has opened aggressively

Inductive Reasoning:

Orpz has made a claim that he will not tolerate Ika's trolling.
Orpz shows that any trolling will be suppressed by votings
Orpz votes Ika, who is trolling, and is requesting him to stop.
We can conclude that Orpz is also a Citizen



I demand Orpz takes back his vote in 12 hours, Or Orpz you will be my perm enemy in this game----do not regret and blame me game throwing.

I want to make it clear that all town must appear to be responsible to their actions and have duty to explain what they do.

I would permit they to do whatever they want but the thing must be

1. Have a clear reason that the action is beneficial to town-- no matter how terrible it is.

2. declare no personal intention -- feel free to keep in heart

3. Christal clear that no hatred is involved.

4. no sexuality contents.

If anyone violated above rules, I will personally write your name on my death note book which means you will always get +1 vote when more than 5 or 30% people voting you.

If anyone violated two or more rules above, I will always vote +1 guilty vote on you.

Extra rule: Louiswill do not always keep his word. He may even slander and bluff you onto trial if he dislike you.

Get on my good side, otherwise you will all regret that how it is to offense a postfarmer.

Mafia, if you fear that I will stir up your hidden cover, you better get rid of me FAST.
Deductive Observations:

Louiswill has made a post detailing rules
Louiswill threatens a personal vendetta against others who break his rules.
Louiswill Targeted Orpz specifically in this post.


Inductive Reasoning:

Louiswill has shown a wish to control Town's posts.
Louiswill has shown that he is not afraid to be abrasive and judgmental
Louiswill has shown that he, in some capacity, wishes to be Town Leader
Louiswill is likely Mafia or Town, but more Town than Mafia.


Citizens of Wi Fom City, I demand that Louiswill be lynched within 2 days or I will kill 2 of you!

Deductive Observations:
[list]
Orpz has posted in a Joker like manner
Orpz has made a post targeting Louiswill
Orpz has made Louiswill's name red.

Inductive Reasoning:

Orpz is soft claiming Joker
Orpz is trolling in an abrasive manner
Orpz believes Louiswill is Scum

[creedkingsx]

I suppose I can read them first.

[creedkingsx]

This is new, damus.

[louiswill]

I don't plan to follow your rules. :P


The rule is for myself, the consequence is for others.

[creedkingsx]

1 probably won't happen.
2 is unclear.
3 I have already heads up'd on.
4 meh

[Damus_Graves]

Deductive Observations:
This is a post from Ika.
This post contains the message FIRST in big letters
This message is a claim to attention and attention to him being here when day began.


Inductive Reasoning:

This message makes Ika appear both trolling and whimsical.
This message shows that Ika is not afraid to troll on Day One despite the views of Day One that are publicly know
This message shows that for this post alone Ika is most likely a Citizen





Deductive Obvservations:

Orpz has placed a vote onto Ika
Orpz made this vote on his first post
Orpz has opened aggressively

Inductive Reasoning:

Orpz has made a claim that he will not tolerate Ika's trolling.
Orpz shows that any trolling will be suppressed by votings
Orpz votes Ika, who is trolling, and is requesting him to stop.
We can conclude that Orpz is also a Citizen



Deductive Observations:

Louiswill has made a post detailing rules
Louiswill threatens a personal vendetta against others who break his rules.
Louiswill Targeted Orpz specifically in this post.


Inductive Reasoning:

Louiswill has shown a wish to control Town's posts.
Louiswill has shown that he is not afraid to be abrasive and judgmental
Louiswill has shown that he, in some capacity, wishes to be Town Leader
Louiswill is likely Mafia or Town, but more Town than Mafia.




Deductive Observations:

Orpz has posted in a Joker like manner
Orpz has made a post targeting Louiswill
Orpz has made Louiswill's name red.

Inductive Reasoning:

Orpz is soft claiming Joker
Orpz is trolling in an abrasive manner
Orpz believes Louiswill is Scum


I have fixed my error.

@Creedkingsx

this is new, damus
I wished to be plain and obvious in my logical thought processes. By relation I should be more easily understood and my FoS be clear and thus successfully lynch those who are scum.

@Louiswill


Longs Rules here

Why do you feel the need to control the day and center them on you and your rules?

[louiswill]

I can not force you to do anything, but my rule was an example for all towns.

Town need some agreement to begin with.

By my past experience, the major problem is how to avoid to step on each other townie's toe purposely.

Anyway,

There was the solid good analysis from the Gravekeeper.

Thanks for the sharing. I hope creedkings will be on you for tonight at least.

[Damus_Graves]

Addition to Orpz"

Inductive Reasoning and Observation:
Orpz has showns that he would not tolerate trolling.
Orpz goes against this and trolls himself in an attempt to cause a "lynch" on his target, Louiswill
Orpz has shown to contradict himself in differing stances.

[Damus_Graves]

Addition to Orpz"

Inductive Reasoning and Observation:

Orpz has showns that he would not tolerate trolling.
Orpz goes against this and trolls himself in an attempt to cause a "lynch" on his target, Louiswill
Orpz has shown to contradict himself in differing stances.

Fixed an Error

@Louiswill


I can not force you to do anything, but my rule was an example for all towns.

Town need some agreement to begin with.

By my past experience, the major problem is how to avoid to step on each other townie's toe purposely.

Anyway,

There was the solid good analysis from the Gravekeeper.

Thanks for the sharing. I hope creedkings will be on you for tonight at least.

Why do you believe Creedkingsx?
Why are you unifying Town under your banner so quickly into the day and under subjective rules?

[creedkingsx]

Addition to Orpz"

Inductive Reasoning and Observation:
Orpz has showns that he would not tolerate trolling.
Orpz goes against this and trolls himself in an attempt to cause a "lynch" on his target, Louiswill
Orpz has shown to contradict himself in differing stances.

fix'd

[creedkingsx]

Another warning, louiswill.
I enjoy wifom.
Very.
very.
much.

[Orpz]

>softing Joker
>softing
Whaaaat, that was a full on role claim!

for lack of better wording, Day 1 is my "troll" day. I like to use it to have fun!

[creedkingsx]

I don't.

[louiswill]

@ Damus,

Actually, I read Orpz's reaction as that he fulfilled my request of withdrawing his vote from ika.

Though he voted on me, I would not take it as serious as the previous vote, thinking of that my assertive attitude attract trolls.

I personally take that as a +1 for Orpz. I believe Orpz is slightly a town.

As to the question why I trust creed, the reason is,

As a person who wants to regulate each troll's behavior, I find out the best idea is to trust their words.

Simply, lies will be melted by trust with a cost of life.

I could write a whole long pain words on this point but I'd rather avoid to for the reads of FM.

The most important thing is that such Ideology give me the power to trust anyone on their first word if no obvious flaw.

Thus, I say I hope Creed heal you if he is a real doctor, or at least I believe he is one.

However, as I introduced before, I am chaotic.

I introduce rules because the rules works. I may try extreme actions if I feel anything is needed.

In additional @ Creed, I believe that you are a extreme experienced player for this setup as what you have claimed.

Thus, I assume

if you are a doctor, you will have a good full reason to heal rather than gambling.

if you are not a doctor, you definitely have enough confidence to all intruders who may break in at night.

And that is why I believe that you are reliable in all open talking.

I still suggest you heal damus.

Now please excuse me, I have to go to bed now.(OOC)

[louiswill]

Oh and again, the rules are examples for all towns. I can not force anyone vote or say anything.

I asked to regulate trolls so early for only one plain reason:

I am new to FM, I want my first game an easy game.---no matter how experienced I am in sc2mafia, I am newbie for you all in here.

Of course I would try to make things clearer to make sure future problems are not too much for me to chew with.

[Damus_Graves]

@ Damus,

Actually, I read Orpz's reaction as that he fulfilled my request of withdrawing his vote from ika.

Though he voted on me, I would not take it as serious as the previous vote, thinking of that my assertive attitude attract trolls.

I personally take that as a +1 for Orpz. I believe Orpz is slightly a town.

As to the question why I trust creed, the reason is,

As a person who wants to regulate each troll's behavior, I find out the best idea is to trust their words.

Simply, lies will be melted by trust with a cost of life.

I could write a whole long pain words on this point but I'd rather avoid to for the reads of FM.

The most important thing is that such Ideology give me the power to trust anyone on their first word if no obvious flaw.

Thus, I say I hope Creed heal you if he is a real doctor, or at least I believe he is one.

However, as I introduced before, I am chaotic.

I introduce rules because the rules works. I may try extreme actions if I feel anything is needed.

In additional @ Creed, I believe that you are a extreme experienced player for this setup as what you have claimed.

Thus, I assume

if you are a doctor, you will have a good full reason to heal rather than gambling.

if you are not a doctor, you definitely have enough confidence to all intruders who may break in at night.

And that is why I believe that you are reliable in all open talking.

I still suggest you heal damus.

Now please excuse me, I have to go to bed now.(OOC)

Deductive Observation:

Louiswill types out a response instead of quoting his previous post.
Louiswill makes a post which answers both questions he was asked.
Louiswill makes a post that contains a suggestion for a night target


Inductive Reasoning:

Louiswill types out a response in lieu of quoting a post to my rephrased question.
Louiswill shows his interest in leading town and organizing actions.
Lousiwill has no investigative night action
Lousiwill shows that he wants the game to be open, troll-free, and clear.
Louiswill is Town so far today.



Oh and again, the rules are examples for all towns. I can not force anyone vote or say anything.

I asked to regulate trolls so early for only one plain reason:

I am new to FM, I want my first game an easy game.---no matter how experienced I am in sc2mafia, I am newbie for you all in here.

Of course I would try to make things clearer to make sure future problems are not too much for me to chew with.

[Orpz]

I don't.

:(

@louis
Haven't unvoted ika yet. Good night btw.


I'll probably get off to do homework unless someone else pops online or there's some more question/discussion

[Damus_Graves]

Inductive Observation:
[list]
Louiswill types out a response in a ~10 min period of time
Lousiwill includes no quotes within his post
Louiswill provides a clean way of thought.
Louiswill is an acceptable Town Leader for the day

[Damus_Graves]

Inductive Observation:

Louiswill types out a response in a ~10 min period of time
Lousiwill includes no quotes within his post
Louiswill provides a clean way of thought.
Louiswill is an acceptable Town Leader for the day

:|

[ypmagic]

GOOD MORNING! xD
Here's my reasoning.

Damus pays too close attention to other people. My guess is he is just a paranoid citizen, or over
confident about playing the game. :O I'll see you people D2

[Nazzhoul]

Morning everyone. GLHF.

Damus. New play style. I like it right now. However, I can see it being used in the future to the detriment of town, intentional and otherwise. If you start putting Inductive Reasoning as Deductive, you're gonna start causing problems.

Example: One of your deductive observations of Ika's first post is inductive.

[powerofdeath]

Every games i played with creed, he always lie about his role early in the game, my guess he is not a doctor

[powerofdeath]

Every games i played with creed, he always lie about his role early in the game, my guess he is not a doctor

1) He might be a doctor because he revealed he is a doctor day 1, hoping nobody believe him and leave him alone
2) He is not afraid that people might visit him tonight otherwise be wouldn't be claiming doctor
3) He could be a town power role, traitor, or mafia due to the fact he isnt afraid mafia will hit him tonight

[NoctiZ]

Hi guys. I'm gonna put on my WIFOM hat for now and pretend to be a mexican at noon.

[ika]

back for an hour. so ask me now i have bengin game to win also. but i bet everyone is gone now.

@orpz for voting me and louis rules

like thedarkestlight would say

FUCK DA POLICE

[ika]

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ika

:(

[ypmagic]

Now its...
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (1 members and 0 guests)
ypmagic

[ika]

NOW ITS

There are currently 3 users browsing this thread. (2 members and 1 guests)
ika, ypmagic

HAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ika]

*now commenced rapid refresh to wait for response*

[ika]

There are currently 2 users browsing this thread. (1 members and 1 guests)
ika

GAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY IS O ONE HERE WHEN I AM I WANT TO TALK TO PPL

[ika]

wait since its no lynch day.......

Titus

LETS GET THE MAYOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NoctiZ]

ZZZzzzzzZZZzzzz *still mexican at noon*

[ika]

ZZZzzzzzZZZzzzz *still mexican at noon*

noctiz at noon want to have a mexican standoff?

[Sinclair]

Boo.

Sorry, I was asleep when the thread was posted and I just got back from my class.

This should be an interesting game! :)

[ika]

Well i gtg to school be back later. i might be able to pull it up berifly before class

[ypmagic]

Titus

[Orpz]

Titus is confirmed Mayor. wtf guys?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????

[ika]

Titus is confirmed Mayor. wtf guys?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????

ika is confirmed troll

[Titus]

Titus is confirmed Mayor. wtf guys?????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????

Apparently I run around with a big lynch me sign.

I cannot avoid being voted on as the host. That has to be a first.

By the way, if anyone hammers me, you are modkilled.

[powerofdeath]

titus
I want to see someone get modkilled

[Bahkieh]

Sigh. Killing the mayor day 1 is too trolly for my taste. I work 5pm to 11pm tonight so do not expect me to post around that time.

Ika

[Sinclair]

I'll be out until about 9:30ish pm EST tonight. So I won't be posting until then.

See you all then.

[Damus_Graves]

@Nazzhoul

One of your Deductive Observations about Ika is Inductive.

This seems a little untrue.
Ika's first post is both large and flashy.
Ika's first post is stating he was here first.
Both of these observations lead to the deductive observation I have stated earlier.

[ika]

Apparently I run around with a big lynch me sign.

I cannot avoid being voted on as the host. That has to be a first.

By the way, if anyone hammers me, you are modkilled.

you said day one was no lynch you set no vote counter. cant someone have some fun

[ika]

Sigh. Killing the mayor day 1 is too trolly for my taste. I work 5pm to 11pm tonight so do not expect me to post around that time.

Ika

you know titus is host? and say one is no lynch?

[Damus_Graves]

@Ika

Why do you feel the need to vote the host today?

@Bahkieh

What causes you to react so aggressively against Ika's trollyness?

@Powerofdeath

Why are you so singly focused on Creeds claim?

[creedkingsx]

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED BY MY CLAIMS, DAMUS!?
HUH!?
HUH!?

<3

[creedkingsx]

Is today really a no lynch day?
There are no videos, I believe, so here. click the link for my reaction.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuoBmMJX4lw

[creedkingsx]

yup, no videos

Wi Fom is on a planet exactly like Earth but days are 24 hours long and nights are 48 24 hours long. It is anal about s being the official language and distribution of videos is also punishable by death. The city could otherwise be dropped into America and no one would be any wiser.

It had a policy of welcoming people of all nationalities.

@Slaol, one of the mafia doesn't work for them though. Plus there is no jester but joker who cannot win if he won't kill mafia.

[ika]

@Ika

Why do you feel the need to vote the host today?


@Bahkieh

this is what i think about you warent a vote on me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zypoa4nL9Fg

[ika]

@Bahkieh

this is what i think about you warent a vote on me



derp about vids.............

premission at least allow it?

i think as a trade off for no lynch day 1 we can have vids day 1...

of cousrse no autoplay

[ika]

derp about vids.............

premission at least allow it?

i think as a trade off for no lynch day 1 we can have vids day 1...

of cousrse no autoplay

well im super derp after rereading it................................................ .....

*insert facepalm photo here*

[Titus]

I'm sorry but no videos will be allowed. This is for a multitude of reasons. 1) Videos take take too long to watch to ensure no one is doing something they shouldn't. 2) I work in setting that prohibits playing videos and I like to do this during downtime at the office. When I'm a player, I can ignore videos not so much when I am hosting. 3) Graphically, imbedding videos occasionally throws off the alignment of a page. These concerns do not change regardless of the lynch/no lynch status.

@creed, please don't link to videos. I understand that might not have been clear that I'm not a fan of linking to them either. Since you were attempting and reasonably believed you were in compliance with the rules, take this as a notice (which is less than a warning).

That being said, today is a no lynch day so no hammer can happen.

[ika]

I'm sorry but no videos will be allowed. This is for a multitude of reasons. 1) Videos take take too long to watch to ensure no one is doing something they shouldn't. 2) I work in setting that prohibits playing videos and I like to do this during downtime at the office. When I'm a player, I can ignore videos not so much when I am hosting. 3) Graphically, imbedding videos occasionally throws off the alignment of a page. These concerns do not change regardless of the lynch/no lynch status.

@creed, please don't link to videos. I understand that might not have been clear that I'm not a fan of linking to them either. Since you were attempting and reasonably believed you were in compliance with the rules, take this as a notice (which is less than a warning).

That being said, today is a no lynch day so no hammer can happen.

:( fair enough i apoligize about my link as well......

[Titus]

Then consider yourself "noticed" as well. Which is like a tap on the wrist. LOL

[NoctiZ]

Aw yeah, nice day chat. I slept so well.

[Titus]

MORE THAN HALF THE DAY IS GONE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT POST BY THE END OF THE DAY WILL BE REPLACED.

[ika]

MORE THAN HALF THE DAY IS GONE. ANYONE WHO DOES NOT POST BY THE END OF THE DAY WILL BE REPLACED.

POST

like that?

[Damus_Graves]

Suspects:
Bahkieh - Little FoS {Aggressive stance on trolling with a disappearance.}
NoctiZ - Little FoS {Single post that suggest he is here to talk more but doesn't}

[NoctiZ]

Suspects:
Bahkieh - Little FoS {Aggressive stance on trolling with a disappearance.}
NoctiZ - Little FoS {Single post that suggest he is here to talk more but doesn't}

I didn't want to suggest that actually, I just told you my sleepy feelings. (Or do you want to chat me up? :3)

[Bahkieh]

I disappeared to play HotS. Also Its day 1 and I know I can't lynch. I never support a random lynch. Again you should know this by now Damus.

[Titus]

Normal posting is fine to count as a post. I suspect you were trolling ikea but I just want to make sure all the bases are covered.

[powerofdeath]

@Ika

Why do you feel the need to vote the host today?

@Bahkieh

What causes you to react so aggressively against Ika's trollyness?

@Powerofdeath

Why are you so singly focused on Creeds claim?

Because what if hes mafia or something, why cant I analyze what i found from his post when nobody else is doing it?

[Damus_Graves]

I didn't want to suggest that actually, I just told you my sleepy feelings. (Or do you want to chat me up? :3)
Deductive Observation:

NoctiZ has responded to my small FoS
NoctiZ has asked if I wanted to chat with him.
NoctiZ has stated he is sleepy.


Inductive Reasoning:

NoctiZ wishes to not be misunderstood.
NoctiZ does not wish to be FoS'd
NoctiZ wants inspiration to talk.



I disappeared to play HotS. Also Its day 1 and I know I can't lynch. I never support a random lynch. Again you should know this by now Damus.

Deductive Observation:

Bahkieh stated he went to play HoTS.
Bahkieh says that I should know him better.
Bahkieh takes a defensive standpoint.


Inductive Reasoning:
Bahkieh reacts instantly to a small FoS in a defensive way that makes little sense to outside views.
Bahkieh does not like being FoS'd for something he sees weak stances on.
Bahkieh acts to same as he has in a different game.
[/list]

[Damus_Graves]

Deductive Observation:

NoctiZ has responded to my small FoS
NoctiZ has asked if I wanted to chat with him.
NoctiZ has stated he is sleepy.


Inductive Reasoning:

NoctiZ wishes to not be misunderstood.
NoctiZ does not wish to be FoS'd
NoctiZ wants inspiration to talk.




Deductive Observation:

Bahkieh stated he went to play HoTS.
Bahkieh says that I should know him better.
Bahkieh takes a defensive standpoint.


Inductive Reasoning:

Bahkieh reacts instantly to a small FoS in a defensive way that makes little sense to outside views.
Bahkieh does not like being FoS'd for something he sees weak stances on.
Bahkieh acts to same as he has in a different game.


From these reasoning and observations I have gathered a read that Bahkieh is more Town than not and that NoctiZ has a night action.

[Nazzhoul]

Deductive Observations:
This message is a claim to attention and attention to him being here when day began.


This is what I was referring to as being misplaced. I regard this as inductive.

Now. Someone ask me questions.

[Damus_Graves]

This is what I was referring to as being misplaced. I regard this as inductive.

Now. Someone ask me questions.

Your meaning is both unfounded and a false premise.

Do not rely on others to cause you to be active.

[NoctiZ]

This is what I was referring to as being misplaced. I regard this as inductive.

Now. Someone ask me questions.

Tits or ass?

[Nazzhoul]

Your meaning is both unfounded and a false premise.

Do not rely on others to cause you to be active.

I don't understand the first sentence.
As for the second, I usually need some sort of engagement to get into a game. This can come from people asking me questions or from me noticing something important that others missed.


Tits or ass?

ass

[Damus_Graves]

Your meaning is both unfounded and a false premise.

Do not rely on others to cause you to be active.

I can call on more data than you possess and thus can turn the, normal inductive statement, into a deductive observation.

[powerofdeath]

Tits or ass?

Tits!!!

[Nazzhoul]

I can call on more data than you possess and thus can turn the, normal inductive statement, into a deductive observation.

IMO, that by definition turns it into an inductive statement.
Or maybe I'm confusing deductive/inductive with objective/subjective.

[Damus_Graves]

IMO, that by definition turns it into an inductive statement.
Or maybe I'm confusing deductive/inductive with objective/subjective.

I think you are.

[Nazzhoul]

I think you are.

What I think you're doing:
Deductive:
Statements of fact
Stuff said in the post

Inductive:
Reasoning based off deductive reasoning
Extrapolation of meaning

Is that accurate?

[Damus_Graves]

Objective retains qualities that cannot change due to human interpretation.
Subjective is set to the will of the human gazes on them.

These are outside the realm of Logic, which is where I am basing my observations and reasoning.

[creedkingsx]

This is a waste of time and very boring.

[Damus_Graves]

What I think you're doing:
Deductive:
Statements of fact
Stuff said in the post

Inductive:
Reasoning based off deductive reasoning
Extrapolation of meaning

Is that accurate?

Deductive is something that is both valid and sound following a logical premise.
Inductive is something that is the closest we can come to the most valid and sound conclusion based on the evidence we have.

[ika]

This is a waste of time and very boring.

then see if day can just end early

[NoctiZ]

This is a waste of time and very boring.
Tits or ass?

[Nazzhoul]

Deductive is something that is both valid and sound following a logical premise.
Inductive is something that is the closest we can come to the most valid and sound conclusion based on the evidence we have.

Then wouldn't it be inductive reasoning because you come to a conclusion based on the evidence you have?


This is a waste of time and very boring.

Boring? Sure. Waste of time? No. I am concerned that Damus will abuse the idea of deductive reasoning to mislead the town.
If you would rather me talk about something else, I'm all ears.


then see if day can just end early

nononono
no

[Nazzhoul]

Tits or ass?

Creed will most likely say ass.
What about you?

[NoctiZ]

Creed will most likely say ass.
What about you?

Hmm.. hmm..
Sometimes it's tits, sometimes it's ass. If you have atleast either tits or ass then you are good for me.

[creedkingsx]

Ass is first.
All about that ghetto pop.

[Damus_Graves]

I would not say so because the evidence I have has undergone strenuous experimentation to arrive at the same conclusion multiple times.
This post I have made observations on has proved to follow the conclusion made before.
It would only be if the post was made after my observation that it would be inductive.

[powerofdeath]

So uh, i dont really understand this deductive and inductive or w/e, and tits/ass arguement is waste of time
So yeah, Im going to wait until day is over and come back day 2

[Nazzhoul]

I would not say so because the evidence I have has undergone strenuous experimentation to arrive at the same conclusion multiple times.
This post I have made observations on has proved to follow the conclusion made before.
It would only be if the post was made after my observation that it would be inductive.

So it's meta then?
Also what's with your sig? The sun-idea of the good one if you're still flipping it.

[creedkingsx]

yup

[Damus_Graves]

So it's meta then?
Also what's with your sig? The sun-idea of the good one if you're still flipping it.

Its not Meta.
Its Logic.
There is a different.

[Nazzhoul]

Damus/creed: Opinion on powerofdeath?

[powerofdeath]

skip

[Nazzhoul]

Damus/creed: Opinion on powerofdeath?

And also ika

[powerofdeath]

Damus/creed: Opinion on powerofdeath?
Lol go ahead take ur best guess

[TheDarkestLight]

You are all but gnats before me!

[Damus_Graves]

I have little to say about powerofdeath today.

[creedkingsx]

idc about him so far.

[Orpz]

no lynch today? afk. see you guys tomorrow.

[louiswill]

Ok a question:

Since the traitor and undercover are not roles that I am familiar from sc2mafia.

How would people know they are live or dead?

could anyone be the traitor?

investigator and godfather can not be undercover or traitors right?

which role is most damage to their faction if they are traitor or undercover?

I personally think busdriver will be devastating if he is traitor for this mechanic.

(this is not a rule question thus in white words, I believe the two roles are the critical points of game play)

[Damus_Graves]

Ok a question:

Since the traitor and undercover are not roles that I am familiar from sc2mafia.

How would people know they are live or dead?

could anyone be the traitor?

investigator and godfather can not be undercover or traitors right?

which role is most damage to their faction if they are traitor or undercover?

I personally think busdriver will be devastating if he is traitor for this mechanic.

(this is not a rule question thus in white words, I believe the two roles are the critical points of game play)

Can you provide a link to the setup in the OP as well as links to the start of days and nights phases?

[ypmagic]

I AM AS WELL GOING AFK@

[louiswill]

Can you provide a link to the setup in the OP as well as links to the start of days and nights phases?


http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18024-S-FM-Wi-Fom-City-%28Deception%29?p=309413

[creedkingsx]

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18024-S-FM-Wi-Fom-City-%28Deception%29?p=309413

.-.

[louiswill]

The undercover is one of the three mafia.

The traitor works similar to the undercover.

Doesn't it mean traitor can be anyone?

[TheDarkestLight]

Doesn't it mean traitor can be anyone?

Check the role list.

[Sinclair]

Doesn't it mean traitor can be anyone?

Traitor will know/knows who he/she is.

In other news:

-skip

[louiswill]

Traitor will know/knows who he/she is.

In other news:

-skip


Therefore, busdriver, doctor, escort are all candidate of traitor?

this range is insane.

[ypmagic]

Four mafia, Traitors, and Joker? Oh boi this is some massacre for town.
SKIP

[TheDarkestLight]

Four mafia, Traitors, and Joker? Oh boi this is some massacre for town.
SKIP


Don't worry, we got someone inside the maf. :)

[Sinclair]

Therefore, busdriver, doctor, escort are all candidate of traitor?

this range is insane.

From what I read I believe it is its own role.


Don't worry, we got someone inside the maf. :)

And Mafia has someone in the town.

[powerofdeath]

I have a hunch its one of the citizen

[louiswill]

I have a hunch its one of the citizen

This sounds more reasonable, because if doctor is a traitor, it will be a disaster.

[Sinclair]

I have a hunch its one of the citizen

No I think it is its own role.

[TheDarkestLight]

From what I read I believe it is its own role.



And Mafia has someone in the town.

Yet the guy inside the maf could screw them over. Like if their Consig is undercover then he can give them false info.

[TheDarkestLight]

I have a hunch its one of the citizen

Dude, the traitor is a SET ROLE. Check the role list, and the number of players. Traitor is on the list. He's basically like the Traitor in EM, wins with the Maf, but doesn't know who they are.

[powerofdeath]

WELCOME TO WIFOM CITY!
Office of Mayor Titus

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/Titus/mayorsoffice.png



Titus has invited you into her office to discuss important matters during the day. She knows that people will disperse during the night and try to battle each other. Still, Titus will enjoy the lack of tension when the town has finally decided to be good or bad.

You enter the door and see a notice hanging from it. "Hello Everyone. Glad you could make it. Just a reminder. No one is lynched today. I don't want blood on the carpet. I'm also available for questions.

Traitor and Undercover, remember to leave notes with one of Titus's many employees around town. Titus will make sure they are delivered.

Goodbye."

Way back in the back of the office is any sort of beverage anyone could want. Also, apparently Mayor Titus has an odd thing for masks and spam. There's some everywhere. There's strange nametags with names no one could ever be born with.





List of Players
ika
Orpz
NoctiZ
TheDarkestLight
Bahkieh
Nazzhoul
Sinclair
creedkingsx
Damus_Graves
powerofdeath
ypmagic
louiswill
Fatalis




List of Roles
Bus Driver
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Consigliere
Consort
Doctor
Escort
Framer
Godfather
Investigator
Joker
Traitor








The game has started. It is day. No one will be lynched.

The day will end at this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=April+23rd+10+pm+pdt), which is 24 hours from now.

All night actions must be pmed to Titus using the sc2 mafia pm system by this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=April+23rd+10+pm+pdt), which is 48 hours from now.

No other PMs permitted.



13 players 13 roles, yes traitor is its own role

[powerofdeath]

Calm down, i checked my error, no need to get snappy

[Sinclair]

Carry on children, no need to bicker.

[Damus_Graves]

Carry on children, no need to bicker.

I disagree

[Sinclair]

I disagree

bitch

[Titus]

Traitor is its own role. It will appear as citizen or traitor upon death. It acts as a mafia-aligned citizen. It will appear as a citizen to the investigators. The Undercover can be anyone in the mafia but for the Godfather.

[Nazzhoul]

You are all but gnats before me!

I'm a fly, thank you very much.

[Sinclair]

Cricket.....cricket.....cricket....

[Damus_Graves]

Many of you may not realize this but there are times where being abrasive and thus viewed as scum can be a huge benefit to the town.
In FMXVI I was a Citizen largly considered scum and I took it upon myself to create even more abrasiveness between everyone in the game at the later point of it and this lead to the readable post counts on each person. Slaol took up the mantle of Town Leader once I died and lead a lynch onto the real scum. This was due to both his earlier insight and my abrasiveness, which spurred conversation and lead to a Town Victory.

Moral: Be active as you can and don't be afraid to be abrasive with your posts.

[Sinclair]

Many of you may not realize this but there are times where being abrasive and thus viewed as scum can be a huge benefit to the town.
In FMXVI I was a Citizen largly considered scum and I took it upon myself to create even more abrasiveness between everyone in the game at the later point of it and this lead to the readable post counts on each person. Slaol took up the mantle of Town Leader once I died and lead a lynch onto the real scum. This was due to both his earlier insight and my abrasiveness, which spurred conversation and lead to a Town Victory.

Moral: Be active as you can and don't be afraid to be abrasive with your posts.

So I can call you a bitch?! :D

[Fatalis]

Wooh sorry I haven't been able to post all day, today is the final day of my national exams

[Fatalis]

Let me reaaaaad

[Fatalis]

louiswill, just a heads up, if I say anything hurtful to you in this game, don't take it personally. I have an agressive asshole "who invited that guy to this party" kind of face when I play. ^.^
Just a warning.

Creed is scum, doing that is Damus' job

[Fatalis]

You guys are playing weird, and you should feel weird

Also ypmagic is scummy

[Fatalis]

IKA READ THIS THREAD AND DISSAPEARED!! SCUMMMMMMM

[ika]

nah im just lruking my internet is failing soon

[Sinclair]

All of you are scum. (http://skately.com/img/library/logos/large/scum-skates.png)

[powerofdeath]

But im not scum

[powerofdeath]

Well im going to sleep good night, do not expect me to coem back til next day

[powerofdeath]

Come*

[Sinclair]

Come*

You see that little button next to reply? Yeah, that one; it says edit post.


Are we allowed to edit our posts here? :p

[Bahkieh]

Okay so I am off work now. Hows it going? I dunno what else to say...I'm no good at scum hunting :( All I ever have are gut feelings

[Titus]

You see that little button next to reply? Yeah, that one; it says edit post.


Are we allowed to edit our posts here? :p

Please put all questions in green. Use [ .color="00ff00" ] Question here [./color] without the periods.

YOU MAY NOT EDIT YOUR POSTS. This is modkill zone if I am aware.

[Orpz]

Yeah, never edit your posts in a FM :p

[Sinclair]

Please put all questions in green. Use [ .color="00ff00" ] Question here [./color] without the periods.

YOU MAY NOT EDIT YOUR POSTS. This is modkill zone if I am aware.

Got it.


Yeah, never edit your posts in a FM :p

I knew that... I was...just testing you all? Sure. Yep. That's it.

[Titus]

The day has ended.

Mafia go to your bunker, which has yet to be decorated. The movers got waylaid by corrupt cops!

There are no undercover and traitor notes for day 1 per the setup.

Night will end at this time. (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=April+23rd+10+pm+pdt)

Being the host, I reserve the right to edit this with pretty pictures.

[Titus]

Jury of Your Peers



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v12/Titus/jurybox.jpg

Mayor Titus strolls on into the courtroom balcony, making final preparations for the day. Everyone has to meet here because of all the vodka, rum, juice and cigar stains on the new rug she had bought to entertain on. She had told everyone to take their seats in the jury box. Each seat had a label for the person to sit in. Titus assigned them in the order of the signups. The closest towards the fire exit in the front is ika because he signed up for the Mayor's twisted game first. The group fills in the front row, and then the next row so on and so forth. Once everyone has arrive, Titus addresses the group.

"We had quite the eventful day yesterday. By the way, I don't appreciate the stains on the rug. They'll take a few days to get out. That is if they get out at all. Then again, I am paid well enough, I can afford 100 rugs."

She then pulls out a piece of paper. In front of all of you, I have left some papers answering some "traditions" of the mafia {read rule questions}. I have included the questions and answers in a packet given out. You can find them in front of you {read at the bottom of this post}.

Luckily for Titus, she can make such a comment because the glass on the top is bulletproof. She seems to saunter towards the exit but stops.

"Oh one more thing y'all. It seems like the Joker went to someone's door and posted a bounty. The bounty is on powerofdeath. If powerofdeath is not killed or lynched within two days, the Joker will kill two people. It takes seven votes to lynch in the electric witness seat.

Seven





List of Players

ika
Orpz
NoctiZ
TheDarkestLight
Bahkieh
Nazzhoul
Sinclair
creedkingsx
Damus_Graves
powerofdeath
ypmagic - Citizen/Traitor
louiswill
Fatalis

List of Roles

Bus Driver
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Consigliere
Consort
Doctor
Escort
Framer
Godfather
Investigator
Joker
Traitor






Questions from last night

There were a few rules questions. I am answering them here. Just a reminder, you are not allowed to quote from any PM you receive from me. Do not ask if you received this particular PM from me either. Questions are paraphrased to hide the identity of the asker. Any night questions will be posted in this manner and pmmed to night actors as well.

Question 1: Let's say the mafia agrees on a plan. Is the undercover bound by it?

Answer: No. All actions MUST be PMed to Titus using the SC2 Mafia engine. This is to ensure that the undercover is free to cause as much chaos as he or she wants. Also, this allows Titus to check only one place for all night actions.

Question 2: Can the mafia target other mafia with their night action?

Answer: Yes. For a multitude of reasons. Consig could investigate mafia voluntarily to see if the bus driver really was bussing for instance. Framer can frame consig so the investigator cannot find him. Consort, especially after escort dies, can rb one of their own to look town.







Timing

The day ends at this time (m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4%2F25%2F13+10%3A20+PM+PDT&x=0&y=0), which is 24 hours from now. Night ends 24 hours after that at this time (m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4%2F26%2F13+10%3A20+PM+PDT&x=0&y=0).

The setup can be found here (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18024-S-FM-Wi-Fom-City-%28Deception%29).

Seven



Sorry for the delay.

[Orpz]

Titus, please post link to the setup!

I have a FoS:
ypmagic

[Orpz]

and how come the lynch number is so low? It should be 7 today

[Sinclair]

Better to give up one than 2?

-vote powerofdeath

That is my vote for now, it is definitely able to be changed within the next 24 hours.

(Also, Titus, both clock links say March, not April. FYI)


And Orpz, it's not that hard to look for it yourself, now is it?

[Sinclair]

Also, I'm going to sleep. I'll stop in a couple times tomorrow when I can. I've got a morning class then I've got a shitton of work to catch up on for my other classes.

Good night, bitches.

[Titus]

All fixed. Setup posted at the first post and the start of the day.

To be clear Seven

[Orpz]

In desperate situations, Town can rely on Joker to stab some mafias, so it's not always better to kill the bounty.

Also, we have 2 days to decide whether or not to lynch POD. I'm getting a feeling that you think we have to lynch him today :p since you were quick to throw him under.

[ypmagic]

I just got back on and I get voted?
I was rbed btw

[creedkingsx]

I was roleblocked.
Bounty is on powerofdeath.
I just realized she is giving us a full role list.
ROLE CALL
I am Citizen, for real.
Whenever host gives an exact list, you always role call.

[louiswill]

Topic 1

If anyone agree that exchange two innocent townie's life for a mafia's is a good deal. I would agree.

However, in such an early game, even if you successfully sacrificed two townies, there is no way to promise next lynch is mafia!

Therefore, the reason that kill powerofdeath in exchange a possible favor from joker is considered not profitable for town.

Unless anyone want to convince me that power of death is Evil, or he is too scum to live, which does not require solid evidence,

I will mark whoever voted to lynch POD as Anti-town.

In that case, Sinclair is now considered Inresponsible for his action by louiswill


Topic 2

I vouch role call. However, I believe that citizen role call makes no sense.

There is no way to testify a citizen, and there are too many of them.

Only chaos will raise and no conclusion will be reached.

As damus said before, even town would be interested to pretending stupid.

By that reason, I would discards all people who claim to be a citizen.

I would ask for those roles including specific actions in bond only.

Therefore, I would ask if any terrorists group want to claim that they are responsible for the role block.

If no one wants to stand out, I will declare that Creed is a Town role, and likely a citizen.

I would role call if and only if at least one Roleblocker stands out.

[ypmagic]

invest needs to speak up before theres chaos and people start random lynching. Theres four mafia AND a traitor.... If that invest became a traitor we're doomed

[creedkingsx]

One of the mafia is a traitor.

[ypmagic]

So if one of Mafia is a traitor does that mean he sides with town?

[Titus]

For clarity, the undercover is one of the mafia aligned with town. Traitor is a mafia aligned citizen.

[Fatalis]

I'mmm hereeeee

Nothing happened to me tonight

[Fatalis]

*checks if GF is immune to roleblock*

[Fatalis]

Well GF is immune, so much for my theory on Creed being GF and RB'ed so he panicked and say he's a citizen >.>

[creedkingsx]

Take example from every game that has ever had an exact role list.
role call and ez mode to victory.

[Nazzhoul]

Hi there. Nothing happened to me last night.

[ypmagic]

Actually there is an Escort AND a Consort on the Role list.... so I dunno

EDIT: We must lynch powerofdeath in the next two days... regardless if hes town or not.

powerofdeath

[powerofdeath]

Actually there is an Escort AND a Consort on the Role list.... so I dunno

EDIT: We must lynch powerofdeath in the next two days... regardless if hes town or not.

powerofdeath

Lol editing post isnt allowed
I claim citizen, i found it funny i got a bounty on me, make me feel special xD

[powerofdeath]

I think its better to get me the next day than right away, anybody who voted me right away is scum

[powerofdeath]

ypmagic

[Fatalis]

ROLE CLAIM TO VICTORY!!!!!!!!!

I'm doctor, last night targetted Damus because who doesn't like killing Damus

[NoctiZ]

Hi guys, nothing happened to me.

I'm the Escort and I blocked ypmagic last night.

[ypmagic]

Lol editing post isnt allowed
I claim citizen, i found it funny i got a bounty on me, make me feel special xD

First of all, this is my first FM game so please go easy on me.


I think its better to get me the next day than right away, anybody who voted me right away is scum

Second, there was a person who voted you an hour or so into the second day. So really, I'm not scum cause I voted like 10 hours after second day

[ika]

oh hai guies. scince we are doing role call i got an idea.

Nazzhoul role plz?

Nazzhoul

[Sinclair]

Alrighty, sorry I was sleeping. I was quick to jump the gun.

-unvote powerofdeath for now...



ROLE CLAIM TO VICTORY!!!!!!!!!

I'm doctor, last night targetted Damus because who doesn't like killing Damus

Question for host: Can there only be one doctor?

[Sinclair]

Actually, looking at the role list, yes there is only one doctor. Since we're doing a role call,

I am the Doctor.

Not Fatalis.

I healed Damus last night, I don't think he was attacked. It's funny that Fatalis said that he targeted damus... I can't really prove it in anyway, unless someone has any ideas.


So,

-vote Fatalis

[Sinclair]

Also, since I probably just ousted a mafia I'll probably be targeted tonight.

[ika]

i think its best that i state my role then as well and explian my lead...

i am our investigator and last night i investigated Nazzhoul and guess what he showed up as, invest/consig

seeing how there probally arent 2 invests due to the undercover/traito mechanice and theres a role list i would like to put a lynch on him before day is over

[Sinclair]

i think its best that i state my role then as well and explian my lead...

i am our investigator and last night i investigated Nazzhoul and guess what he showed up as, invest/consig

seeing how there probally arent 2 invests due to the undercover/traito mechanice and theres a role list i would like to put a lynch on him before day is over

If that is true then we have 2 potential mafias here.

Nazzhoul and Fatalis.

Both Ika and Nazzhoul claim investigator.
Both myself and Fatalis claim doctor.

I cannot vouch for ika, but I know for a fact that I am doctor, and Fatalis is not.

[ika]

If that is true then we have 2 potential mafias here.

Nazzhoul and Fatalis.

Both Ika and Nazzhoul claim investigator.
Both myself and Fatalis claim doctor.

I cannot vouch for ika, but I know for a fact that I am doctor, and Fatalis is not.

nazzhoul never claimed a role today he simpily said nothing happened to him. he will come on and try to CC me later. this is why i revealed

[ika]

i have to head to school i will be back after class

[NoctiZ]

nazzhoul never claimed a role today he simpily said nothing happened to him. he will come on and try to CC me later. this is why i revealed

Makes me suspect Sinclair as if he knows that Nazzhoul is going to claim investigator.

[Orpz]

wait a second there's only one Escort and that's me!

and....I hit the same target as Noctiz. WTF

owait ypmagic claimed RB'd so Noctiz just used that. k. thought ypmagic was a killing role. since no kills.
I was gonna unvote ypmagic because I checked the setup and GF couldn't be RB'd but then I went to sleep.

brb breakfast. noctiz scum.
Noctiz

[Sinclair]

nazzhoul never claimed a role today he simpily said nothing happened to him. he will come on and try to CC me later. this is why i revealed

Ahh I'm sorry I misread your post. I thought you said he claimed it.

My bad!


Makes me suspect Sinclair as if he knows that Nazzhoul is going to claim investigator.

See the above text.

I misread his post lol. And how the hell does that make me suspicious? Scared that I'm psychic? lmao

[Sinclair]

If that is true then we have 2 potential mafias here.

Nazzhoul and Fatalis.

Both Ika and Nazzhoul claim investigator.
Both myself and Fatalis claim doctor.

I cannot vouch for ika, but I know for a fact that I am doctor, and Fatalis is not.

Cancel what I said about Nazzhoul claiming invest. I misread ika's post.

BUT Ika claims invest and he said Nazzhoul came up as invest/consig so either Ika is invest and Nazzhoul is consig or vice versa.

[ika]

Cancel what I said about Nazzhoul claiming invest. I misread ika's post.

BUT Ika claims invest and he said Nazzhoul came up as invest/consig so either Ika is invest and Nazzhoul is consig or vice versa.

got a few mins before class. if i was consig why would i try to out the invest so early? if i was a consig i would just wait for nightfall.

sin naz does bring up a point. you immitately generalized him claiming invest. you will soon be next priority. i alos find it funny how you say "the maf will hit me"

you know theres a bus driver?

[NoctiZ]

Aha, Orpz is the consort.

Orpz


I misread his post lol. And how the hell does that make me suspicious? Scared that I'm psychic? lmao
No, I was saying that you thinking he claimed investigator is a result of night chat communication.

[Sinclair]

got a few mins before class. if i was consig why would i try to out the invest so early? if i was a consig i would just wait for nightfall.

sin naz does bring up a point. you immitately generalized him claiming invest. you will soon be next priority. i alos find it funny how you say "the maf will hit me"

you know theres a bus driver?

You mean Noctiz? No I did not "immitately generalized him claiming invest". Like I said in my previous posts, I MISREAD YOUR POST. lol Is it that hard to comprehend what I said?

I only said mafia will hit me because I am doctor and Fatalis is not, they know that I know that Fatalis is not what he says. So he's definitely not doctor, I don't know if he is mafia or not. If he is mafia, then I'm screwed, if not, I don't know what he can be.

And no I did not know there is a bus driver, I must've skipped over it in the role list.

Either way, I know Fatalis is scum.

[Sinclair]

Aha, Orpz is the consort.

Orpz


No, I was saying that you thinking he claimed investigator is a result of night chat communication.

Nope. Like I said, I misread his post.

[NoctiZ]

You mean Noctiz? No I did not "immitately generalized him claiming invest". Like I said in my previous posts, I MISREAD YOUR POST. lol Is it that hard to comprehend what I said?

I only said mafia will hit me because I am doctor and Fatalis is not, they know that I know that Fatalis is not what he says. So he's definitely not doctor, I don't know if he is mafia or not. If he is mafia, then I'm screwed, if not, I don't know what he can be.

And no I did not know there is a bus driver, I must've skipped over it in the role list.

Either way, I know Fatalis is scum.
That's wrong thinking. Especially because you and Fatalis are the only Doctor claimers the Mafia won't kill you as a result. Killing you, assuming you are the Doctor, would make Fatalis a 100% safe lynch.

[Sinclair]

That's wrong thinking. Especially because you and Fatalis are the only Doctor claimers the Mafia won't kill you as a result. Killing you, assuming you are the Doctor, would make Fatalis a 100% safe lynch.

Oh true I didn't think of that.
Sorry I'm so used to playing the SC2Mafia where everything moves so fast.

If anyone wants me to prove anything, I'll heal you lol. Although if I heal you, the mafia probably won't hit you to try and get the town to vote me.

It's allll speculation.

Either way, my vote still stands for Fatalis. He is scum.

[Sinclair]

You know what else makes me confused is if Fatalis is not doctor, why would he claim to have healed damus? What if damus was attacked and wasn't healed? I didn't claim doctor yet so there was no way he could've known that I healed him.

Could damus possibly be mafia too, since Fatalis is saying that he healed him and maybe he would confirm that he was healed?

I dunno. Just thinking out loud, guys.

[Orpz]

That's wrong thinking. Especially because you and Fatalis are the only Doctor claimers the Mafia won't kill you as a result. Killing you, assuming you are the Doctor, would make Fatalis a 100% safe lynch.

so does that make me more town for pushing your lynch???????????????????????
your vote seemed defensive.

anyways ypmagic is confirmed Town if both Escort claims targetted him and there was a Mafia kill, and since there was a Joker bounty.
ypmagic lead us.

damus is also confirmed Town since both doctor claimed healed him and there were no mafia kills last night. I'd say Fatalis is scum and is claiming to heal the Mafia hit. Sinclair's posts give off a more Town vibe, and I don't think he'd know how to fake a doctor claim since he didn't know we couldn't edit posts (no offense man!).
damus lead us.

brb school

[Orpz]

I mean no mafia kill on ypmagic's paragraph*

typo sorry, tired

[NoctiZ]

so does that make me more town for pushing your lynch???????????????????????
your vote seemed defensive.

anyways ypmagic is confirmed Town if both Escort claims targetted him and there was a Mafia kill, and since there was a Joker bounty.
ypmagic lead us.

damus is also confirmed Town since both doctor claimed healed him and there were no mafia kills last night. I'd say Fatalis is scum and is claiming to heal the Mafia hit. Sinclair's posts give off a more Town vibe, and I don't think he'd know how to fake a doctor claim since he didn't know we couldn't edit posts (no offense man!).
damus lead us.

brb school

Your vote has as much weight as mine as anyone who claims a role which only has one available spot has to vote for the other claimer, no? You claiming Escort proves to me that you are the Consort. Sadly not for the others, but whatever.

Also, why do you claim to have roleblocked the target that I blocked? Would claiming your actual target make you scummy, in this case creed? Because, you may have missed it, but creed claimed roleblocked.

[Sinclair]

so does that make me more town for pushing your lynch???????????????????????
your vote seemed defensive.

anyways ypmagic is confirmed Town if both Escort claims targetted him and there was a Mafia kill, and since there was a Joker bounty.
ypmagic lead us.

damus is also confirmed Town since both doctor claimed healed him and there were no mafia kills last night. I'd say Fatalis is scum and is claiming to heal the Mafia hit. Sinclair's posts give off a more Town vibe, and I don't think he'd know how to fake a doctor claim since he didn't know we couldn't edit posts (no offense man!).
damus lead us.

brb school

No offense taken. I'm trying to transfer to forum mafias compared to sc2mafias. Too many trolls/idiots in the sc2mafia.

Although I cannot agree with your claims that both ypmagic and damus are confirmed town because, don't forget, they could have said they targeted them so they could say "yes I was role blocked!" or "yes I was healed!" and back up their mafia partners role claim.

Understand what I'm saying?

[Orpz]

I claimed it because I blocked ypmagic. Not you, liar. lol.
Why are you so sure that I'm a Consort? If I was Mafia, which I'm not, I could be any Mafia role since I claimed after the roleblocked claims.


I will read replies at skool.

[NoctiZ]

I claimed it because I blocked ypmagic. Not you, liar. lol.
Why are you so sure that I'm a Consort? If I was Mafia, which I'm not, I could be any Mafia role since I claimed after the roleblocked claims.


I will read replies at skool.

I claimed that you are the Consort because you are my counterpart. Sure, you could be any other Mafia, but I focused on the counterpart of my role. Also, still my block.

[Sinclair]

So here is what I have so far

Sinclair - Doctor
Fatalis - Assumed Mafia
Orpz - Claims Escort (could be Consort)
NoctiZ - Claims Escort (could be Consort)
Ika - Claims Investigator (Could be Consig)
Nazzhoul - Ika claims to have investigated Nazzhoul and came up with Invest/Consig

I'm not one for analyzing someones behavior through text, so I cannot really tell you if they're lying or not. Unless they give an obvious sign.

[Sinclair]

Also,

Creedking - claims Citizen
Powerofdeath - claims Citizen

[Titus]

There can only be one doctor. Unfortunately, ypmagic I must modkill you. Please quit posting. While I believe your editing of your post is innocent and it likely changed nothing for anyone, I cannot selectively apply a modkill for editing. This thread has several posts warning about that consequence.

Day will continue as scheduled. ypmagic, please do not post anymore.

ypmagic, was a citizen.

[ika]

well as the invest i can easily decide who is what overnight.

@sin you are prob not doc. the doc wouldnt say ok i'll heal you if you ask. i claimed invest you should be on me. we need to get rid of the consig today. also dont forget that as invest i will be getting the traitor notes. so the consig is our best bet right now

plz before day ends focus down Nazzhoul on a lynch if we can waeken maf already it will work

[Sinclair]

Oof. That leaves 2 citizens.

That could back up creeds and PODs claim.

Anyone else claim cit?

[ika]

There can only be one doctor. Unfortunately, ypmagic I must modkill you. Please quit posting. While I believe your editing of your post is innocent and it likely changed nothing for anyone, I cannot selectively apply a modkill for editing. This thread has several posts warning about that consequence.

Day will continue as scheduled. ypmagic, please do not post anymore.

ypmagic, was a citizen.

does the vote count change due to this?

[Sinclair]

well as the invest i can easily decide who is what overnight.

@sin you are prob not doc. the doc wouldnt say ok i'll heal you if you ask. i claimed invest you should be on me. we need to get rid of the consig today. also dont forget that as invest i will be getting the traitor notes. so the consig is our best bet right now

plz before day ends focus down Nazzhoul on a lynch if we can waeken maf already it will work

Think what you want, and you don't know what I'd say and what I wouldn't say haha.

No one can prove who they are just yet. For all I know you could be consig.

[ika]

Oof. That leaves 2 citizens.

That could back up creeds and PODs claim.

Anyone else claim cit?

sin we can worry about cit claimers later for now plz get on with Nazzhoul. he is the consig. if you are doc you will heal me and the bus driver (plz stay announmus) will bus around the docs.

i will get some infor from the maf tom

[ika]

Think what you want, and you don't know what I'd say and what I wouldn't say haha.

No one can prove who they are just yet. For all I know you could be consig.

would a consig play something this risky on day 2? would any mafia do anthign like this early on? i think not. i am considering to think you are not doc and are mafia

[Titus]

Vote count is unchanged. There are twelve players now. Six is a tie, seven is a majority. Seven to lynch.

ypmagic had a last will. It is...

ypmagic's last will


Damus seems too suspicious.... too suspicious...

Also because traitor is not revealed on death, ypmagic could have been the traitor. You never know.

[Sinclair]

would a consig play something this risky on day 2? would any mafia do anthign like this early on? i think not. i am considering to think you are not doc and are mafia

True, if they were to lynch Nazzhoul and see that you were not an investigator, you'd be screwed. But still.

Trust me I'm not mafia, I am doctor.


Like Ika said, bus around the doctor, so I don't get fucked tonight.

[Sinclair]

Or if you want to risk it, don't bus me and let invest check me. But that risks losing your doctor.

[ika]

True, if they were to lynch Nazzhoul and see that you were not an investigator, you'd be screwed. But still.

Trust me I'm not mafia, I am doctor.


Like Ika said, bus around the doctor, so I don't get fucked tonight.

you agree yet you dont warrent a vote? more scum tells along with what has been coming up with the past few posts you are most likely maf. i like how you "assume" fatalis is maf. you forget there is joker. more scum tells now if you want any town points you will vote him up

[Sinclair]

you agree yet you dont warrent a vote? more scum tells along with what has been coming up with the past few posts you are most likely maf. i like how you "assume" fatalis is maf. you forget there is joker. more scum tells now if you want any town points you will vote him up

I agree, but I am aware that Fatalis is not a doctor. I am the doctor, he claimed doctor but he is not.

That is why my vote is with him for now. I can change my vote at any time.

Think all you want, but I'm telling you I'm not mafia.

[ika]

I agree, but I am aware that Fatalis is not a doctor. I am the doctor, he claimed doctor but he is not.

That is why my vote is with him for now. I can change my vote at any time.

Think all you want, but I'm telling you I'm not mafia.

ok so you want to vote someone who could be a WIFOM a pr role vs a confirmed mafia? try harder. we have enought evedience to link Nazzhoul to mafia. we can focus fatlis next if you will just move yuor vote. this mexican standoff need to stop

[Sinclair]

ok so you want to vote someone who could be a WIFOM a pr role vs a confirmed mafia? try harder. we have enought evedience to link Nazzhoul to mafia. we can focus fatlis next if you will just move yuor vote. this mexican standoff need to stop

The only evidence we have is your word. Granted you are probably invest.

Fatalis is scum. Whether he's Joker or mafia is unknown obviously. If you're invest, check Fatalis tonight.

Bus driver, don't switch Fatalis if you want town to move ahead.


-unvote Fatalis

-vote Nazzhoul

[Bahkieh]

I say the CCers are the more likely mafia members. I claim Shitizen.

[ika]

I say the CCers are the more likely mafia members. I claim Shitizen.

your the 3rd cit caller. only room for 2. so someone is lying now. plz give imput about day so far. and then vote up Nazzhoul. hes only at 2 so far. i would like to get him near L-1 but not hammer too early i want to hear what he will claim i claimed invest and he showed invest/consig so if he claims anything else he will be lying.

[Sinclair]

your the 3rd cit caller. only room for 2. so someone is lying now. plz give imput about day so far. and then vote up Nazzhoul. hes only at 2 so far. i would like to get him near L-1 but not hammer too early i want to hear what he will claim i claimed invest and he showed invest/consig so if he claims anything else he will be lying.

There's 3 citizens, yp was one.

Creed claimed, POD claimed and now Bahkieh claimed.

Of course one of them is BS'ing. For now we focus on our main targets.

[Bahkieh]

your the 3rd cit caller. only room for 2. so someone is lying now. plz give imput about day so far. and then vote up Nazzhoul. hes only at 2 so far. i would like to get him near L-1 but not hammer too early i want to hear what he will claim i claimed invest and he showed invest/consig so if he claims anything else he will be lying.

Remember that the Traitor also comes up a citizen. So it is possible that the Traitor is already dead and the last 3 of us are clear

Nazzhoul

[ika]

There's 3 citizens, yp was one.

Creed claimed, POD claimed and now Bahkieh claimed.

Of course one of them is BS'ing. For now we focus on our main targets.

for now focus on Nazzhoul. i will clear up the cit claimers tom. dont forget a cit claimer coulf be saying cit to hide their real role. sometime PR claims cits to hide what they really

if tritior dies is the invest informed?

[ika]

also what about undercover?

[Sinclair]

I've got an optician appointment. I'll be back in about an hour or so.

[Sinclair]

for now focus on Nazzhoul. i will clear up the cit claimers tom. dont forget a cit claimer coulf be saying cit to hide their real role. sometime PR claims cits to hide what they really

if tritior dies is the invest informed?

Who are you going to check tonight? A cit claimer or Fatalis?

[Titus]

for now focus on Nazzhoul. i will clear up the cit claimers tom. dont forget a cit claimer coulf be saying cit to hide their real role. sometime PR claims cits to hide what they really

if tritior dies is the invest informed?

No one is informed if traitor or undercover dies. You may, if you wish, investigate the dead to confirm/refute undercover or traitor status depending on your faction if you are investigator/consigliere.

[ika]

Who are you going to check tonight? A cit claimer or Fatalis?

who i check will reamian unknown. the fact that both of you claimed doc is odd. but at same time who i check is be covered to me. i will use that the undercover has to tell me to help decide who is mafia along with who i invest. all you need to worry about is healing me

[ika]

acctualy i rather have bus driver and doc on me. this way i am 99% confirmed to live.

escort/consort can screw us over. if i have double on me they cant stop both. also the maf would be follish to attack either doc claimer right now due to the fact that if one flips doc the other will be outed as maf.

[ika]

well i got to head to work soon so i will be gone. but i will prob be back during my break but ohter then that i will prob be gone. but i want bus and doc on me

[Damus_Graves]

I see a couple of things going wrong already.

We do not have to decide on Powerofdeath today. We have another day to decide his fate on and we should take all the time we need in order to do so. The fact that creed has, from what I have read, not attempted to state this fact makes me wary of him today.
The Role Claim is a good idea as a start as we already have a few suspects. Any scum are going to get obliterated with this chosen action. Creed suggesting this makes me less wary of him.
Louiswill has backed down from Town Leader it seems and is now blending with others a bit, such as creed and myself. This action is a bit unsettling after seeing his D1 behavior.
Joker choosing Powerofdeath over players such as Creed or Myself makes me think that if we chose not to lynch him, Powerofdeath, than The Joker will most likely be targeting Creed, Myself, or Ika etc. But even this is manageable. Town is in a good spot right now.

[Sinclair]

acctualy i rather have bus driver and doc on me. this way i am 99% confirmed to live.

escort/consort can screw us over. if i have double on me they cant stop both. also the maf would be follish to attack either doc claimer right now due to the fact that if one flips doc the other will be outed as maf.

It would be fairly stupid if Mafia kills me or [whoever is not consig] because then the other claimers will be known as mafia.

[Bahkieh]

It would be fairly stupid if Mafia kills me or [whoever is not consig] because then the other claimers will be known as mafia.They are on a very short leash as is. They screwed themselves over claiming the roles like they did.

[creedkingsx]

I see a couple of things going wrong already.

We do not have to decide on Powerofdeath today. We have another day to decide his fate on and we should take all the time we need in order to do so. The fact that creed has, from what I have read, not attempted to state this fact makes me wary of him today.


How about the fact that I have hardly acknowledged it? LOL

Andyway, I say vote nazzhoul.
Nazzhoul
Focus on the PR claims. Odds are, the mafia that votes citizen is probably a traitor, so I feel, whether it is POD or Bakieh, we can trust them, imo.

[creedkingsx]

So Damus.
y u no claim role, my joker feline'd friend?

[Damus_Graves]

They are on a very short leash as is. They screwed themselves over claiming the roles like they did.

You have to admit that they could do nothing else. Scum have been backed into a coroner and I am fairly certain that whomever the Joker is has claimed Citizen.

[Damus_Graves]

So Damus.
y u no claim role, my joker feline'd friend?

There is very little need for me to. This game is ending in a Town Victory in a short 4 days.

[Bahkieh]

You have to admit that they could do nothing else. Scum have been backed into a corner and I am fairly certain that whomever the Joker is has claimed Citizen.

Fixed. and True. Although I would think that at least one of them would claim citizen.

[creedkingsx]

Why does it say Traitor so explicitly next to ypmagic's name in the graveyard?

List of Roles
Bus Driver- Louiswill/TDL
Citizen- ypmagic
Citizen- creed
Citizen- POD/bahkieh
Consigliere- Nazzhoul
Consort- Orpz/NoctiZ
Doctor- Sinclair/Fatalis
Escort- Orpz/NoctiZ
Framer- POD/Bahkieh
Godfather- Sinclair/Fatalis
Investigator- Ika
Joker- Damus
Traitor- Louiswill/TDL

[Damus_Graves]

Why does it say Traitor so explicitly next to ypmagic's name in the graveyard?

List of Roles
Bus Driver- Louiswill/TDL
Citizen- ypmagic
Citizen- creed
Citizen- POD/bahkieh
Consigliere- Nazzhoul
Consort- Orpz/NoctiZ
Doctor- Sinclair/Fatalis
Escort- Orpz/NoctiZ
Framer- POD/Bahkieh
Godfather- Sinclair/Fatalis
Investigator- Ika
Joker- Damus
Traitor- Louiswill/TDL

I am afraid you are mixed up.
Unless you are attempting to project which is plausible.

[creedkingsx]

When you are setting the number of votes, use the number, not the word. The tally doesn't show L-#.
:P

[creedkingsx]

I am afraid you are mixed up.
Unless you are attempting to project which is plausible.

You don't know the meaning of my psychology words.

[Bahkieh]

*looks at Damus*

I am the Batman.

[Damus_Graves]

You don't know the meaning of my psychology words.

I am a novice. However it is not the right time for me to claim yet.

[Sinclair]

Why does it say Traitor so explicitly next to ypmagic's name in the graveyard?

List of Roles
Bus Driver- Louiswill/TDL
Citizen- ypmagic
Citizen- creed
Citizen- POD/bahkieh
Consigliere- Nazzhoul
Consort- Orpz/NoctiZ
Doctor- Sinclair/Fatalis
Escort- Orpz/NoctiZ
Framer- POD/Bahkieh
Godfather- Sinclair/Fatalis
Investigator- Ika
Joker- Damus
Traitor- Louiswill/TDL

Ah that makes sense. I didn't know why Fatalis would claim doctor. I didn't know that doctor was paired with GF.

Well that settles it, Fatalis is probably GF.


Either way, Nazzhoul shall be lynched!

[Sinclair]

Why does it say Traitor so explicitly next to ypmagic's name in the graveyard?




Whoops it looks like Titus fudged up!

[Damus_Graves]

Ah that makes sense. I didn't know why Fatalis would claim doctor. I didn't know that doctor was paired with GF.

Well that settles it, Fatalis is probably GF.


Either way, Nazzhoul shall be lynched!

It is the only thing left to claim.

[creedkingsx]

I didn't know GF was paired with doctor either.
LOL
Just the most logical given the circumstances.
Although, I don't necessarily believe your claim over his, yet, sinclair.
Same goes with the Orpz/NoctiZ part.
Ika is the only one that has brought evidence to the table to support his, therefore the most logical move.