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Espozito
March 31st, 2013, 01:18 AM
From creator of "Boom Town" and "Boom Town 2: Terrorist's Revenge".
In association with SC2Mafia productions.

Film by Espozito Ezparato Jr.




Stalked



The Plot (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/17475-S-FM-Stalked)



Episode Selection

Day 1. Awakening. (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18552-S-FM-71-Stalked?p=300315&viewfull=1#post300315)
Night 1. Open season. (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18552-S-FM-71-Stalked?p=300723&viewfull=1#post300723)
Day 2. Nothing like joke. (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18552-S-FM-70-Stalked?p=301377&viewfull=1#post301377)
Night 2. Judgement time. (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18552-S-FM-70-Stalked?p=301753&viewfull=1#post301753)
Day 3. Curious minds. (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18552-S-FM-70-Stalked?p=302029&viewfull=1#post302029)
Night 3. Last words. (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18552-S-FM-70-Stalked?p=302727&viewfull=1#post302727)
Day 4. One step from hell. (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18552-S-FM-70-Stalked?p=303038&viewfull=1#post303038)
Ending (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18552-S-FM-70-Stalked?p=303139&viewfull=1#post303139)



Starring

Damus_Graves
ika
Nicole
Cryptonic
Bunny
Orpz
Numbertwo
clementine
TheDarkestLight

Espozito
March 31st, 2013, 01:19 AM
Day 1. Awakening.



You wake up in some strange forest. You are not alone, you're with group of same people as you are. In the forest you find a strange note:



"Hello, my dear friends. You are here not for random. Each of you has his or her own reason to be here... My name is... well... call me Hunter. I hunt down the people who deserve to die, hiding some skeletons in their closets. You think that you can fight me by your number? It doesn't matter since you can't trust your number: I am ONE OF YOU..."




Alive:

Damus_Graves
Orpz
ika
clementine
Bunny
Cryptonic
TheDarkestLight
Numbertwo
Nicole

Dead:

None



1. Vote in tag
2. 5
3. Day ends this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=6+am+1.04.2013+MSK).
4. Ask questions in green.
5. Last Wills may be sent any time.

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 01:21 AM
1. Game begins with Day 1 with lynch.

Hi

Numbertwo
March 31st, 2013, 01:22 AM
Hi

Hi!

Numbertwo
March 31st, 2013, 01:24 AM
I guess we should all reveal our role today since this is a lynch day.

Orpz
March 31st, 2013, 01:29 AM
TheDarkestLight

I claim Journalist

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 01:30 AM
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Killing Town
Citizen
Citizen
Hunter
Witch

Time to speculate on roles.


Hidden Town - Detective/Escort ~Reasoning is because of all the roles I have given with reasonings thus far these two make the most sense to include.
Hidden Town - Doctor/Bodyguard ~Reasoning is because every game, save for some of clem's, always have a protective to give town the slightest chance at avoid instant massacres ~
Hidden Town - Investigator/Detective ~Reasoning is because this will be a largely post analysis game and these roles complement the balance and theme greatly~
Hidden Town - Escort(If Killing is Vigilante)/Doctor(If Killing is Veteran) ~Reasoning is because of those killings these would be effective counters to balance the potential town deaths~
Killing Town - Veteran/Vigilante ~Reasoning is because Esp enjoys good scum games. Good scum games don't typically happen with Jailor as he has the ability to perfect roleblock and kill someone in one night which, in the hands of good players, is equilvilant to early demise for scum.~
Citizen
Citizen
Hunter
Witch

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 01:31 AM
I guess we should all reveal our role today since this is a lynch day.

Role claims do not benefit games with a hidden setup on day one. We have 0 start information and scum can so easily fake claim and gain instant targets to maim that there is no early benefit towards this probability.

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 01:32 AM
TheDarkestLight

I claim Journalist

Why TheDarkestLight?

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 01:34 AM
Anyone thinking to try and fake claim/real claim Veteran.
Do not do it.
Revealing like that will only cause unneeded, and avoidable, town deaths.

Orpz
March 31st, 2013, 01:35 AM
Time to speculate on roles.


Hidden Town - Detective/Escort ~Reasoning is because of all the roles I have given with reasonings thus far these two make the most sense to include.
Hidden Town - Doctor/Bodyguard ~Reasoning is because every game, save for some of clem's, always have a protective to give town the slightest chance at avoid instant massacres ~
Hidden Town - Investigator/Detective ~Reasoning is because this will be a largely post analysis game and these roles complement the balance and theme greatly~
Hidden Town - Escort(If Killing is Vigilante)/Doctor(If Killing is Veteran) ~Reasoning is because of those killings these would be effective counters to balance the potential town deaths~
Killing Town - Veteran/Vigilante ~Reasoning is because Esp enjoys good scum games. Good scum games don't typically happen with Jailor as he has the ability to perfect roleblock and kill someone in one night which, in the hands of good players, is equilvilant to early demise for scum.~
Citizen
Citizen
Hunter
Witch

Hmm...I disagree with Bodyguard. If Esp likes good scum games, he wouldn't put Bodyguard in a game with only one killer, as that could end the game just as fast as a Jailor.

and TDL because his name caught my eye in the setup

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 01:39 AM
Orpz. You are saying that he wont have a bg in game due to the hesitation at giving town the accidental win due to a lucky choice of night action?

Orpz
March 31st, 2013, 01:42 AM
Orpz. You are saying that he wont have a bg in game due to the hesitation at giving town the accidental win due to a lucky choice of night action?

yeah

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 01:43 AM
K. What do you think about Numbertwo's lurk after I pointed out a flaw in his plan?

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 01:52 AM
Just to be very very clear:

If the Hunter targets himself - He suicides?
If the Hunter targets the player who targets him. - He suicides?

Orpz
March 31st, 2013, 01:52 AM
K. What do you think about Numbertwo's lurk after I pointed out a flaw in his plan?

not much of it. imo it'd be more suspicious if he stayed and tried to argue against your post.

Orpz
March 31st, 2013, 01:53 AM
it's late. i'll be heading to bed soon unless someone else posts x_x
i'll stick around if you have more questions though damus

Numbertwo
March 31st, 2013, 01:53 AM
K. What do you think about Numbertwo's lurk after I pointed out a flaw in his plan?

What flaw would that be? If there are 2 detective claimers for example, we could just lynch 1 of them today and the other one tomorrow since 1 of them would be a guaranteed scum.

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 01:55 AM
What flaw would that be? If there are 2 detective claimers for example, we could just lynch 1 of them today and the other one tomorrow since 1 of them would be a guaranteed scum.

How would you know there are not just two Detectives in the game? This is a hidden setup Numbertwo. We cannot just lynch double claims just for the sake of double claims made.

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 01:56 AM
it's late. i'll be heading to bed soon unless someone else posts x_x
i'll stick around if you have more questions though damus

I don't hav anything else at the moment.

Espozito
March 31st, 2013, 01:59 AM
Just to be very very clear:

If the Hunter targets himself - He suicides?
If the Hunter targets the player who targets him. - He suicides?


If Hunter visits someone who visits Hunter, he won't suicide. He will kill his original target.
BUT
If a Witch forces Hunter to visit a person who visits Hunter, he will kill himself.

If Witch forces Hunter to visit himself, he will suicide.

Hunter can't visit himself on purpose.

Numbertwo
March 31st, 2013, 02:00 AM
How would you know there are not just two Detectives in the game? This is a hidden setup Numbertwo. We cannot just lynch double claims just for the sake of double claims made.

The only thing we know is that there can't be more then 2 citizens, so if we made a mass claim i would imagine that the scums would fake claim a power role.

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 02:02 AM
The only thing we know is that there can't be more then 2 citizens, so if we made a mass claim i would imagine that the scums would fake claim a power role.
We also know there cannot be a Vigilante/Jailor/Veteran x2 in the game as there is only one slot for them.
We also cannot assume that there will be one of each role in the game.
You are right in your assumption about scum being forced to claim early, such as today, however the latter the game proceeds, with the more pr deaths obtained, the scum are more likely to claim citizen over PR based on the availability of bodies to hide behind.

I still do not support role claims this early.

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 02:06 AM
Numbertwo I am glad you are talking here in the manner you have thus far. You are showing me much about your probable role card.

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 02:13 AM
I shall be heading to bed. Good night everyone

Nicole
March 31st, 2013, 02:37 AM
Citizen.

Nicole
March 31st, 2013, 02:40 AM
If Citizens claim, then Hunter will more likely to hit Witch or Witch hit Hunter. Who is the other Citizen?

PR should claim whom they will visit tonight. We will know who is lying tomorrow.

Cryptonic
March 31st, 2013, 07:45 AM
If Citizens claim, then Hunter will more likely to hit Witch or Witch hit Hunter. Who is the other Citizen?

PR should claim whom they will visit tonight. We will know who is lying tomorrow.

it's also more likely to kill a PR by having Cits claim.

Cryptonic
March 31st, 2013, 07:47 AM
I'm thinking the setup is:
Investigator
Detective
Escort
Vigilante
Doctor

Bunny
March 31st, 2013, 08:49 AM
Hallooo everyone

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 09:43 AM
Good morning/afternoon.

clementine
March 31st, 2013, 09:49 AM
Hi guys just checking in. =)

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 09:52 AM
Hi guys just checking in. =)

Hi. Is this a post saying you are not going to be here for a while or that you are here now and ready for any discussions?

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 10:01 AM
Guess that answers that.

ika
March 31st, 2013, 10:22 AM
IKA IS HERE!

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 10:35 AM
Hey Ika

ika
March 31st, 2013, 10:36 AM
damus whats with the sig?

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 10:43 AM
damus whats with the sig?

What do you mean?

ika
March 31st, 2013, 10:44 AM
just what is it. all i see is this hand with a toung. im just confused why you have it there or what its even suppose to mean/represent

Cryptonic
March 31st, 2013, 10:54 AM
clementine
y u no help

Orpz
March 31st, 2013, 10:56 AM
I'm awake now. Must resist....urge to dick around on day 1....

ika
March 31st, 2013, 11:01 AM
I'm awake now. Must resist....urge to dick around on day 1....

who you gonna dick? btw i want to quote something when you claimed journalist


YOU GOT BUTTFUCKED BY WORTHLESS TEAMMATES, NOT THE ROLE CALL!

do you think saying your journalist right now is not gonna lead tot hat

Cryptonic
March 31st, 2013, 11:03 AM
i love journalist

ika
March 31st, 2013, 11:04 AM
i wonder....

can journailst interview self?

Orpz
March 31st, 2013, 11:06 AM
who you gonna dick? btw i want to quote something when you claimed journalist



do you think saying your journalist right now is not gonna lead tot hat

I think it'll be fine :)


i wonder....

can journailst interview self?

uhhhhhh.....

there is no journalist in the setup, it was just for fun claim

Cryptonic
March 31st, 2013, 11:07 AM
i wonder....

can journailst interview self?

LOL

ika
March 31st, 2013, 11:19 AM
wait a muinite orpz...

Hidden Town: Investigator, Doctor, Bodyguard, Detective, Lookout, Escort.

no journalist

Orpz

Orpz
March 31st, 2013, 11:21 AM
wait a muinite orpz...

Hidden Town: Investigator, Doctor, Bodyguard, Detective, Lookout, Escort.

no journalist

Orpz

8) I retract nothing

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 11:53 AM
wait a muinite orpz...

Hidden Town: Investigator, Doctor, Bodyguard, Detective, Lookout, Escort.

no journalist

Orpz

Remove the vote. Orpz makes claims like this all the time and it is instant suicide if he is trying to be legit about it, even though he is not. This reason, based on the fact that Orpz has played several games thus far and knows better, is why I do not believe that, today only, Orpz is scum.

Cryptonic
March 31st, 2013, 11:54 AM
I think it'll be fine :)



uhhhhhh.....

there is no journalist in the setup, it was just for fun claim

lol

ika
March 31st, 2013, 11:58 AM
*Glares at orpz*

i can hide messages too

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 11:59 AM
*Glares at orpz*

i can hide messages too

No you can't. :p

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 12:06 PM
*Looks for Bunny*

Numbertwo
March 31st, 2013, 12:07 PM
I also get the feeling that she is around.

Orpz
March 31st, 2013, 12:17 PM
hahah ika ;) feel free to write an article for me if you want though, but you gotta post it here and it won't be anon

What about TDL? Every game I've been in with him, he's always posted within the first 12 hours of the game thread opening, except for S-FM Data, when he was scum.

Orpz
March 31st, 2013, 12:24 PM
This isn't some sort of grudge thing btw, I just voted him out of a hunch, and then later found him suspicious and worthy of having a vote.

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 12:27 PM
This isn't some sort of grudge thing btw, I just voted him out of a hunch, and then later found him suspicious and worthy of having a vote.

You are using meta to support your theory. Meta is not a good foundation.
SFM Second Chances, if I remember correctly, he was scum as well and posted within 12 hours of game start.

Bunny
March 31st, 2013, 12:27 PM
*Looks for Bunny*

Yes?

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 12:30 PM
Yes?

Hi.
Question: What do you see with Nicole's want for PR's to claim who they will visit.

Bunny
March 31st, 2013, 12:38 PM
Hi.
Question: What do you see with Nicole's want for PR's to claim who they will visit.

i think it's kinda dumb. lately i have found that people trying to confirm PR's is working against town.

Cryptonic
March 31st, 2013, 12:39 PM
I am an important town power role, hunter should target me tonight :3

Bunny
March 31st, 2013, 12:40 PM
I am an important town power role, hunter should target me tonight :3

aren't all town roles important roles?

Cryptonic
March 31st, 2013, 12:45 PM
aren't all town roles important roles?

:)

Orpz
March 31st, 2013, 12:46 PM
You are using meta to support your theory. Meta is not a good foundation.
SFM Second Chances, if I remember correctly, he was scum as well and posted within 12 hours of game start.

meh, it wasn't Second Chances, but you're right (MFM Halo).


Question: What do you see with Nicole's want for PR's to claim who they will visit.

I'm gonna answer this.

It won't work because:
1) All of the Town Killing cannot move or roleblocks (Vigilante cannot move on night 1)
2) An escort also screws things up
3) scumbag witch

basically more confusion, and would expose Town Killing and Escort

ika
March 31st, 2013, 12:55 PM
No you can't. :p

*glares at damus*

btw who was that that found that in the fm does anyone know?

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 02:37 PM
Back. Ika give thoughts about the day thus far yes?

ika
March 31st, 2013, 02:45 PM
after looking back, it seems to be like everoyne is just filling it with what they possibly are, spamming, lurking, or enjoying easter.

you damus whats your thoughts?

BTW congreads on getting green

ika
March 31st, 2013, 02:48 PM
what i do find odd is that #2 wants an all role call yet doesnt give his role, he probally has but im probally bolivious of what he hinted he is

Orpz
March 31st, 2013, 02:51 PM
what i do find odd is that #2 wants an all role call yet doesnt give his role, he probally has but im probally bolivious of what he hinted he is

He did hint at it.

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 02:54 PM
after looking back, it seems to be like everoyne is just filling it with what they possibly are, spamming, lurking, or enjoying easter.

you damus whats your thoughts?

BTW congreads on getting green

So far on Day one

Numbertwo - Town
Cryptonic - Town
Nicole - town
Ika - Town
Damus - Town
Orpz - Town
Clem - Witch/Hunter
TDL - Witch/Hunter
Bunny - Town

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 04:23 PM
Clementine

TheDarkestLight
March 31st, 2013, 04:56 PM
hahah ika ;) feel free to write an article for me if you want though, but you gotta post it here and it won't be anon

What about TDL? Every game I've been in with him, he's always posted within the first 12 hours of the game thread opening, except for S-FM Data, when he was scum.

When I see this, I face-palm. Also I have been having a few RL issues as of late. Yet they have passed thank the lord. :) Any questions you would like me to answer? BTW I do not plan on giving out my role today. It's just an ignorant thing to do. -imb4 scum thinks I'm a PR-

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 04:58 PM
When I see this, I face-palm. Also I have been having a few RL issues as of late. Yet they have passed thank the lord. :) Any questions you would like me to answer? BTW I do not plan on giving out my role today. It's just an ignorant thing to do. -imb4 scum thinks I'm a PR-

Thoughts on clem only making one post today despite having posted elsewhere over the day?

TheDarkestLight
March 31st, 2013, 05:09 PM
Thoughts on clem only making one post today despite having posted elsewhere over the day?

Well, not much really.

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 05:10 PM
Well, not much really.

I see

Orpz
March 31st, 2013, 05:32 PM
When I see this, I face-palm. Also I have been having a few RL issues as of late. Yet they have passed thank the lord. :) Any questions you would like me to answer? BTW I do not plan on giving out my role today. It's just an ignorant thing to do. -imb4 scum thinks I'm a PR-

Who are your FoS's today?


And as for Clem, she was reading the thread earlier, and left without further posts. I'll add another pressure vote, L-2 is optimal imo.
clementine

TheDarkestLight
March 31st, 2013, 05:50 PM
Who are your FoS's today?


And as for Clem, she was reading the thread earlier, and left without further posts. I'll add another pressure vote, L-2 is optimal imo.
clementine

No one yet, I need to read a bit more.

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 05:54 PM
Nevermind on the FoS

clementine
March 31st, 2013, 06:04 PM
Hi.

Damus_Graves
March 31st, 2013, 06:04 PM
Hey Clem

Espozito
March 31st, 2013, 07:58 PM
Night 1. Open season.



You stopped talking to others, prepared a place for the night: a campfire, some sort of bed of leaves and sticks.
That was the same scenario for all of you... But just a few minutes later most of you woke up as you had much work to do this night...



Votage table:

clementine (2 [L-3]):
Orpz, Cryptonic



Alive:

Damus_Graves
Orpz
ika
clementine
Bunny
Cryptonic
TheDarkestLight
Numbertwo
Nicole

Dead:

None



1. Night chats are now opened (if they exist).
2. Night will end this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7+am+2.04.2013).
3. Send me your night actions.
4. Send me your Last Wills and Death Notes if you wish.
5. Votecount has been reset.

Espozito
April 1st, 2013, 08:17 PM
Night will last a little more time than expected. Sorry. You may still send me your LWs and night actions in case you change your minds.

Espozito
April 2nd, 2013, 05:35 AM
Day 2. Nothing like joke.



One of us didn't survive the last night. Clementine was found near her campfire with two arrows: 1 in her stomach and 1 in her neck. Looks like the Hunter has... sort of a bow or a crossbow even.
Clementine's role was Investigator.



Alive:

Damus_Graves
Orpz
Numbertwo
Cryptonic
Bunny
Nicole
TheDarkestLight
ika

Dead:

Clementine - Night 1: Hunter



1. 5
2. You may send me Last Wills and Death Notes.
3. Orpz has noticed me that he will be probably missing for the next 3 days and posting not much. If he doesn't show any signs of presence for this day and next night cycle, he'll be replaced.
4. Day will end this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=9+pm+03.04.2013+MSK).

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 05:42 AM
Pretty obvious that clementine wasn't a scum. Who visited her?

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 05:44 AM
I did not visit clementine

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 06:25 AM
We need to apply some pressure today.
Numbertwo

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 06:27 AM
I chose Numbertwo because he's trying to seem helpful when all he's actually doing is fishing out PRs.

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 06:29 AM
I chose Numbertwo because he's trying to seem helpful when all he's actually doing is fishing out PRs.

The hunter obviously allready knows who visited clementine. It would be helpful if that person revealed so the hunter wont dare visit him again.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 06:31 AM
The hunter obviously allready knows who visited clementine. It would be helpful if that person revealed so the hunter wont dare visit him again.

what's your role

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 06:32 AM
what's your role

I think i have given you enough clues, you should be able to figure it out.

Bunny
April 2nd, 2013, 06:32 AM
nothing happened to me last night. i agree with crypt that numbertwo is trying to pull a damus, not working as well though.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 06:34 AM
eh i guess you seem pretty pro-town on pg 1.

my guess would be between Orpz and TDL.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 06:35 AM
bloop

Nicole
April 2nd, 2013, 06:42 AM
I'm Citizen.

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 06:44 AM
Putting pressure on Orpz is probably pointless since he apparently isn't here, i don't think he is a scum either. Thedarkestlight I would like to see Thedarkestlight talk.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 06:46 AM
TheDarkestLight
here's a vote

Bunny
April 2nd, 2013, 08:29 AM
I'm Citizen.

why do you feel the need to keep saying this and adding nothing else? makes me feel like you're just pretending and hiding behind your cit claim

Nicole

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 08:30 AM
I also have suspicion of damus. x.x

Orpz
April 2nd, 2013, 10:55 AM
im in vegas til tmrw i will make posts mobile but only every so often, i visitted tdl last night because i thought he was witch and i was hoping hunter would visit me and kill him

Lets hear his night feedback and target

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 10:58 AM
Orpz, role?

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 10:58 AM
nothing happened to me last night. i agree with crypt that numbertwo is trying to pull a damus, not working as well though.
<3
I'm taking it as a compliment. ^.^

I also have suspicion of damus. x.x

You always do.
However I had clem down as scum, which is not an excuse for anything but a fact, and only shortly before day ended removed my vote.
I, however, have done nothing tonight and did not visit anyone.
While I could be lying. I am not in this instance.

I should update my notes.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 10:58 AM
Also, I was Roleblocked.

Orpz
April 2nd, 2013, 11:01 AM
Since my activity will be lower than normal i request someone unvote tdl and let me vote him,

[Vote]TheDarkestLight[/vote

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 11:03 AM
No.
L-2 is good enough for someone who made only 3-4 posts yesterday.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 11:12 AM
im in vegas til tmrw i will make posts mobile but only every so often, i visitted tdl last night because i thought he was witch and i was hoping hunter would visit me and kill him

Lets hear his night feedback and target

Interesting. Imma steal this for my notes and analysis it there.

Orpz
April 2nd, 2013, 11:50 AM
Does anyone claim visitting damus? His roleblock claim makes me believe tdl is innocent, i skipped over it before making my lasr post
I am detective so i can confirm tdl is town if no ccs

I dont think its that bad to out myself and him since hunter doesnt get to choose his kills
[Vote]ika[vote] i want to hear from ika

Orpz
April 2nd, 2013, 11:51 AM
Jesus h christ mobike voting is a pain

ika

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 11:55 AM
Today's readings thus far include:

Cryptonic - Evil
Bunny - Town
Ika - Evil
TDL - Town
Damus - Town
Orpz - Town
Nicole - Town
Numbertwo - Town


However these are very very preliminary. Not official.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 12:01 PM
Who did TDL visit?

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 12:04 PM
Hunter -
Witch -
Investigator - clementine
Detective - Orpz
Doctor -
Escort -
Vigilante -
Citizen - Nicole
Citizen -

Those are the claims so far
Was anybody witched last night?

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 12:05 PM
Hunter -
Witch -
Investigator - clementine
Detective - Orpz
Doctor -
Escort -
Vigilante -
Citizen - Nicole
Citizen -

Those are the claims so far
Was anybody witched last night?

Targets are not informed of being witched

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 12:06 PM
Targets are not informed of being witched

oh shank u kind sir

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 12:07 PM
Ok, so we know the Doctor was not followed last night.
Damus was not followed.
Orpz was not followed (but hasn't told us who TDL visited)
I wasn't followed.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 12:08 PM
Ok, so we know the Doctor was not followed last night.
Damus was not followed.
Orpz was not followed (but hasn't told us who TDL visited)
I wasn't followed.

He has actually.
But he more alluded to it

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 12:10 PM
So you think TDL visited you?
That means TDL isn't the Hunter, but could be the Witch. or could be TPR.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 12:12 PM
So you think TDL visited you?
That means TDL isn't the Hunter, but could be the Witch. or could be TPR.

I don't think anything regarding whom TDL visited. Because Orpz could be witch trying to confirm himself as Detective.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 12:13 PM
I don't think anything regarding whom TDL visited. Because Orpz could be witch trying to confirm himself as Detective.

Well, we will see if TDL confirms or not.
Either way, I think ika might be a good target.

Cryptonic's list of non-Hunters: Damus / Cryptonic

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 12:14 PM
Well, we will see if TDL confirms or not.
Either way, I think ika might be a good target.

Cryptonic's list of non-Hunters: Damus / Cryptonic

Interesting.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 12:15 PM
btw, if your are a PR, do not visit people who have claimed a PR (unless it's fishy)
Target people who haven't claimed or claimed citizen.
That way, we will only lose a PR to Witch+Vigi, Vigi, or Witch+Hunter(unlikely)

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 12:16 PM
^

Makes me want to continue my WIFOM.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 12:17 PM
I thought Numbertwo was claiming Detective, btw.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 12:17 PM
^

Makes me want to continue my WIFOM.

c'mon damus, everyone knows no WIFOM is the best WIFOM.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 12:18 PM
c'mon damus, everyone knows no WIFOM is the best WIFOM.

Half of the time I agree. But setups like this make people whom are vigi/citizen need to wifom as other things.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 12:20 PM
going ika
Ika
if TDL is scum, he's probably Witch.

ika
April 2nd, 2013, 12:43 PM
sorz been at work and busy finishing up cops and robbers. nothing happened to me last night

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 12:48 PM
sorz been at work and busy finishing up cops and robbers. nothing happened to me last night

Who did you visit last night?

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 12:50 PM
I wish clementine left a last will.. for all we know, she targeted the Hunter and was targeted by the Hunter.

ika
April 2nd, 2013, 12:57 PM
i went to clem because damus said clem was possible witch/hunter

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 12:59 PM
i went to clem because damus said clem was possible witch/hunter

what kind of role would visit a witch/hunter?
what's your role?

ika
April 2nd, 2013, 01:06 PM
what kind of role would visit a witch/hunter?
what's your role?

why our lovely escort

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 01:13 PM
why our lovely escort

didn't damus claimed blocked?

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 01:15 PM
ok... I think TDL is Witch and Numbertwo could be the Hunter x.x

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 01:18 PM
Numbertwo

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 01:19 PM
Need both Damus & #2 to claim a role. Then we can probably kill the Hunter today and Block the witch, or kill the witch today and block the hunter.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 01:22 PM
ok... I think TDL is Witch and Numbertwo could be the Hunter x.x

Fallacy because Orpz is claiming Detective and insinuating that TDL visited me last night.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 01:23 PM
It's not a fallacy, I just have more info than you do.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 01:24 PM
Well.. From the vagueness that is Orpz today I had gleamed that information.
Which blows a hole in your theory Crypt :(

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 01:24 PM
ok... I think TDL is Witch and Numbertwo could be the Hunter x.x

The fact that you believe ika's weak claim makes me think that you are the hunter.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 01:24 PM
I have a suggestion:
If you have information. Share it

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 01:25 PM
BRB heading to the store.

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 01:25 PM
Cryptonic

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 01:25 PM
The fact that you believe ika's weak claim makes me think that you are the hunter.

how is it weak?
if escort blocked clementine, and hunter visited clementine, clementine would die. this is an extremely likely thing that would happen as clementine gets targeted by 2-3 people on night one every game.

What's your role #2
You too damus
While you're both here.

Who did you target n1 #2?

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 01:26 PM
Cryptonic

Lol OMGUS

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 01:26 PM
how is it weak?
if escort blocked clementine, and hunter visited clementine, clementine would die. this is an extremely likely thing that would happen as clementine gets targeted by 2-3 people on night one every game.

What's your role #2
You too damus
While you're both here.

Who did you target n1 #2?

What's your role? You still haven't claimed anything as far as i know.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 01:27 PM
What's your role? You still haven't claimed anything as far as i know.

maybe you should read the topic, but before you do that, answer the questions instead of beating around the bush.
What happened to you being open to info on day 1, but not willing to share a single thing today?

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 01:28 PM
maybe you should read the topic, but before you do that, answer the questions instead of beating around the bush.
What happened to you being open to info on day 1, but not willing to share a single thing today?

I made it pretty obvious that i was a citizen during day 1.

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 01:29 PM
If everyone claimed during day 1 i would be able to confirm myself since all the scums would claim prs.

Bunny
April 2nd, 2013, 01:31 PM
i'm a cit so either nicole or numbertwo is lying.

NUmbertwo

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 01:38 PM
ok, 3 cit claims.
Bunny is acting like she would as a Citizen. She wouldn't usually counterclaim someone unless she was actually that role. So, I believe that.
Numbertwo wanted a rolecall day 1, seems pretty protown, so he could be citizen.
Nicole has said nothing at all except "I'm Citizen" twice... pretty shitty.

Anyways, I'm another Escort. It actually makes more sense to have a second Escort instead of a Doctor because Doctor would be OP.

My estimated rolelist:
Hunter - Nicole (scummy, a cit claimer, likely to have targeted clementine)
Witch - TDL (not saying anything, visited Damus last night and no room for PR.)
Investigator - clementine (confirmed)
Detective - Orpz (saw TDL visited Damus - TDL and Orpz might be switched)
Escort - Ika (targeted clementine, getting her killed)
Escort - Cryptonic (blocked damus)
Vigilante - Damus_Graves (only room for PR left, everyone else visited and vigi can't; not missing a visit)
Citizen - Bunny
Citizen - Numbertwo

However, if Numbertwo and Nicole are mixed up, we could have problems.
Anyways: Nicole

Here's the plan. We will lynch Nicole. If she flips Citizen, we will redirect focus to Bunny & Numbertwo.

Tonight, I will block TDL and Ika will block Orpz. That way, the Vigilante can't be controlled.
Damus will target and kill One of the Citizen claimers if Nicole flipped Citizen and we will lynch the other tomorrow.
If Nicole DOES flip Hunter, we will still block the same people, except Damus will shoot either Orpz or TDL and we will lynch the other tomorrow.

ggnore

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 01:41 PM
ok, 3 cit claims.
Bunny is acting like she would as a Citizen. She wouldn't usually counterclaim someone unless she was actually that role. So, I believe that.
Numbertwo wanted a rolecall day 1, seems pretty protown, so he could be citizen.
Nicole has said nothing at all except "I'm Citizen" twice... pretty shitty.

Anyways, I'm another Escort. It actually makes more sense to have a second Escort instead of a Doctor because Doctor would be OP.

My estimated rolelist:
Hunter - Nicole (scummy, a cit claimer, likely to have targeted clementine)
Witch - TDL (not saying anything, visited Damus last night and no room for PR.)
Investigator - clementine (confirmed)
Detective - Orpz (saw TDL visited Damus - TDL and Orpz might be switched)
Escort - Ika (targeted clementine, getting her killed)
Escort - Cryptonic (blocked damus)
Vigilante - Damus_Graves (only room for PR left, everyone else visited and vigi can't; not missing a visit)
Citizen - Bunny
Citizen - Numbertwo

However, if Numbertwo and Nicole are mixed up, we could have problems.
Anyways: Nicole

Here's the plan. We will lynch Nicole. If she flips Citizen, we will redirect focus to Bunny & Numbertwo.

Tonight, I will block TDL and Ika will block Orpz. That way, the Vigilante can't be controlled.
Damus will target and kill One of the Citizen claimers if Nicole flipped Citizen and we will lynch the other tomorrow.
If Nicole DOES flip Hunter, we will still block the same people, except Damus will shoot either Orpz or TDL and we will lynch the other tomorrow.

ggnore

The only problem with this plan is that i don't think we have 2 escorts, i think 1 of the escort claimers is a witch/hunter. Nicole it is either her or bunny.

Bunny
April 2nd, 2013, 01:41 PM
i guess numbertwohas been more active and i orginally did vote nicole.

Nicole

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 01:43 PM
The only problem with this plan is that i don't think we have 2 escorts, i think 1 of the escort claimers is a witch/hunter. Nicole it is either her or bunny.

Right, we need TDL to claim something.
However, I do think there are 2 Escorts. A Doc would be really OP in this setup as it would waste a kill Hunter targeted the Doctor. To counter that, I'm sure Espo put 2 Escorts. Easily able to benefit town, 2 ppl counter claiming to cause drama, and easy to screw up a few town night actions, too.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 01:47 PM
Bunny usually has great hindsight for scum anyways, so it probably is Nicole if Bunny is Citizen x.x;

Bunny
April 2nd, 2013, 01:58 PM
Bunny usually has great hindsight for scum anyways, so it probably is Nicole if Bunny is Citizen x.x;

awe thanks :p

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 02:05 PM
Bunny usually has great hindsight for scum anyways, so it probably is Nicole if Bunny is Citizen x.x;

Indeed.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 02:09 PM
Imma paste my notes on those two here in a sec. Gotta pull them up

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 02:13 PM
Numbertwo:
Made two posts in the opening of the game which consisted of a reply of Hi! And the immediate suggestion that everyone roleclaim based on the fact that day one included an ability to lynch. I gave him my opinion on his suggestion and have not received a reply as of yet despite him being there. (There were four users viewing thread at the time: Orpz, Myself, Nick, Numbertwo. However he has left the thread roughly 10-11 minutes after my post replying to his Role Claim Suggestion.) This suggests that he does not wish to be focus’d upon and could mean that he is a Town.
Numbertwo seems to display his newness with the statement: What flaw would that be? If there are 2 detective claimers for example, we could just lynch 1 of them today and the other one tomorrow since 1 of them would be a guaranteed scum.
Understandably he sees it as this simple as he has not seen this small a game have double of the same role within them...as I have seen of his experiences thus far. His posts and his, assumedly, on and off view of the thread still suggest a new townie rather than scum. He continues to argue his suggestions merits to me, in some sense, which continues the thought that he is a new townie rather than scum based on the fact that scum this early in the game by nature will not want to draw an absurd amount of attention upon them as Numbertwo is doing atm. I have laid bait for him, assuming scum, to change his tactics and draw towards a different route using the “Your talking is giving me information” post made in the game. Numbertwo for all intents and purposes on this day has given off the read of being town citizen. He has sprung into Day Two with the message of clem being obviously town thus who would visit her? He has claimed the contested role of citizen and has sheeped his vote into Nicole.
An analysis of this to me suggests that Numbertwo is a citizen trying to be useful as he can be.

Orpz
April 2nd, 2013, 02:14 PM
Tdl visited damus, sorry if it was vague lol

Did anyone else visit clem? Clem couldve visitted the Hunter and Ika coukd have been witched onto damus which clears tdl from being hunter or witch. But then what ciuld TDL be? Certainly not a town killing. perhaps another escort? From this I think that Ika is a liar.

As for the cit thing Im not sure if scum would claim Citixen on page 1, so i somewhat trust nicoles claim but the lurk is disturbing

I gotta run again ill be back in a few hiurs

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 02:14 PM
Nicole:
Has made the boneheaded choice to role claim Citizen and suggest that other Citizens should claim their role and that PRs should state who they will visit tonight. She has not attempted to defend her position nor reply in the game thread further. She continued to claim Citizen and has not posted again since. This suggests, based on her previous gameplays I have seen, that she is attempting to instill the mindset that she is a useless citizen and left alone by the majority

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 02:26 PM
Bunny:
Made one greeting post and has not been seen again. She has come to day two making a few posts in the opening about her feedback, of nothing, and a vote upon the Citizen claiming Nicole. She has countered the two claims of Citizen, which leaves the notion of her townness based on the general suicidal plan of claiming citizen with the two, claimed, escorts and the detective we obtained. She has voted for both Numbertwo and Nicole and has generally made posts, both answering my question and also providing her general thoughts about the game at hand. She has provided no discernible tells about her worry about being found out, assuming scum, which has merited her better believability on being town.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 02:35 PM
I really need Esp to get back to me about my question

TheDarkestLight
April 2nd, 2013, 03:02 PM
Sup kids, I'm near invulnerable. The only way the Hunter can kill me is if one of you are picked and you visit me, or he picks me and I visit him. I'm a Doctor. No matter who I visit -other than the Hunter, even myself from the Witch- they will be both attacked and healed, thus wasting the Hunters time. The Witch might target me, yet that only saves herself from a kill, and does nothing substantial. By saying this I pray none of you visit me, as that will remove a counter role so to say to the Hunter.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:07 PM
Sup kids, I'm near invulnerable. The only way the Hunter can kill me is if one of you are picked and you visit me, or he picks me and I visit him. I'm a Doctor. No matter who I visit -other than the Hunter, even myself from the Witch- they will be both attacked and healed, thus wasting the Hunters time. The Witch might target me, yet that only saves herself from a kill, and does nothing substantial. By saying this I pray none of you visit me, as that will remove a counter role so to say to the Hunter.

you basically just gave every reason as to why a Doctor wouldn't be in this setup.
Did you visit damus last night?

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:07 PM
Claims:
Escort
Escort
Detective
Doctor
Vigilante
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Investigator


Damus_Graves - Vigilante
ika - Escort
Nicole - Citizen
Cryptonic - Escort
Bunny - Citizen
Orpz - Detective
Numbertwo - Citizen
clementine - Investigator
TheDarkestLight - Doctor



Well gents. We have our suspects.

Cryptonic/ika
Nicole/Numbertwo/Bunny


My guess:
Witch in one of the two escort claims
Hunter in of the three.



TDL whom did you target last night.

TheDarkestLight
April 2nd, 2013, 03:08 PM
you basically just gave every reason as to why a Doctor wouldn't be in this setup.
Did you visit damus last night?

I did target Damus in fact.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:08 PM
Cryptonic who did you target last night

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:12 PM
i roleblocked damus

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:13 PM
2 escorts makes sense though.
chances of clementine being targeted by escort + hunter is WAY higher than clementine targeting the hunter and the hunter targeting clementine.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:15 PM
Ok, so we know the Doctor was not followed last night.
Damus was not followed.
Orpz was not followed (but hasn't told us who TDL visited)
I wasn't followed.


I also have suspicion of damus. x.x


These two things make your claim doubtful.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:18 PM
Hunter
Target one person at night
You will kill the one who was visited by your target
Detective tracks you to visit the target you chose, not the one you attacked (same for Lookout)
Attacks don't ignore immunity or healing
If the target you chose doesn't visit anyone, you kill your target
Has night immunity

Witch
Controls one person at night to visit another
Can force self-targets
Controlling will activate powers anyway (for instance, if you control Jailor who jailed somebody and he has executions left, he will execute his target whether he wanted it or not)
Victim isn't informed of being witched



Neither role is immune to roleblocks.
Clem had died.
Witch doesn't inform targets of being Witched
Crypt claimed to roleblock me.
Clem had died and Cryptonic stated suspicion of me.
I was roleblocked.

Cryptonic

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:20 PM
Because no one was saying there were witched.
You're funny though, you think I'm scum because I said I roleblocked you and you were roleblocked lol.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:21 PM
my vote is staying on Nicole, the real Hunter ^.^

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:22 PM
Because no one was saying there were witched.
You're funny though, you think I'm scum because I said I roleblocked you and you were roleblocked lol.

I'm voting you because you said that you suspected me after roleblocking me and seeing clem die.

both of those things should have auto-cleared me of being scum in your eyes.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:23 PM
Order of Operations

1. Jailor jails
2. Veteran alerts
3. Escort blocks
4. Witch controls
5. Hunter stalks
6. Doctor heals, Bodyguard protects
7. Sheriff, Detective, Lookout visit their targets
8. Kills in priority: Jailor, Vigilante, Hunter.
9. Everyone gets feedbacks and investigation results.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:24 PM
I'm voting you because you said that you suspected me after roleblocking me and seeing clem die.

both of those things should have auto-cleared me of being scum in your eyes.

unless I thought you were the witch.
I said you weren't hunter but I still was suspicious of you.

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 03:25 PM
I'm voting you because you said that you suspected me after roleblocking me and seeing clem die.

both of those things should have auto-cleared me of being scum in your eyes.

You do have a point but cryptonic is more likely to be a witch then the hunter. He might have controlled Ika into visiting you since he didn't claim escort untill after ika did.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:26 PM
Order of Operations

1. Jailor jails
2. Veteran alerts
3. Escort blocks
4. Witch controls
5. Hunter stalks
6. Doctor heals, Bodyguard protects
7. Sheriff, Detective, Lookout visit their targets
8. Kills in priority: Jailor, Vigilante, Hunter.
9. Everyone gets feedbacks and investigation results.


unless I thought you were the witch.
I said you weren't hunter but I still was suspicious of you.

What you say and what the setup says are not equal nor are they in any realm of possible outcomes.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:27 PM
You do have a point but cryptonic is more likely to be a witch then the hunter. He might have controlled Ika into visiting you since he didn't claim escort untill after ika did.

yea, this is more likely, but still i am escort.
it's either nicole & ika or nicole & tdl in my eyes.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:29 PM
What you say and what the setup says are not equal nor are they in any realm of possible outcomes.

what... I didn't know ppl weren't informed of witching, you informed me of this on page 2...
I said that you could be witch because no one was saying they were witched, due to me blocking you.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:32 PM
possible. But doubtful.
That would require me to believe you havent read any scum rolecards

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:33 PM
possible. But doubtful.
That would require me to believe you havent read any witch rolecard
corrected

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:34 PM
possible. But doubtful.
That would require me to believe you havent read any scum rolecards

Do you know how many rolecards I look at x.x

TheDarkestLight
April 2nd, 2013, 03:35 PM
I have a thought process going on at this time. First off, ika was the only one who claimed to visit Clem, and Clem died. Now then, Crypt claimed to RB Damus, maybe knowing that since he Witched ika, a possible real Escort onto Damus, and the person ika claimed to have rbed was dead couldn't claim if she was or not, yet the problem is is that if I'm correct Escorts are interrupted by Witches, despite their place in the OoO if they are Witched. So Crypt can't be Evil, and if ika is evil he has to be the Witch.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:36 PM
Do you know how many rolecards I look at x.x

Yes. But you committed to this game and thus most likely would have spent more time on this game's rolecards to understand the gist of them.
IMO of you.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:37 PM
I have a thought process going on at this time. First off, ika was the only one who claimed to visit Clem, and Clem died. Now then, Crypt claimed to RB Damus, maybe knowing that since he Witched ika, a possible real Escort onto Damus, and the person ika claimed to have rbed was dead couldn't claim if she was or not, yet the problem is is that if I'm correct Escorts are interrupted by Witches, despite their place in the OoO if they are Witched. So Crypt can't be Evil, and if ika is evil he has to be the Witch.
Clem is in a place where she has very crappy internet connections.

She has been late more than once and I have not seen her on at all during the troll day yesterday.
So it is more likely that Clem had not chosen a night action than two escorts.

TheDarkestLight
April 2nd, 2013, 03:38 PM
Clem is in a place where she has very crappy internet connections.

She has been late more than once and I have not seen her on at all during the troll day yesterday.
So it is more likely that Clem had not chosen a night action than two escorts.

Possible, yet maybe not. O_o

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:38 PM
@TDL, either way, Nicole is most likely the best lynch target.
Scum would be reluctant to vote during the day.

Can Escorts be witched?

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:40 PM
Here is a reality:
If we do not lynch the Witch today I am going to have to suicide.
I will not let the Witch control me to give a second kill to scum.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:40 PM
if clementine signed up for a game and missed a night action, i'm extremely disappoint.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:40 PM
Here is a reality:
If we do not lynch the Witch today I am going to have to suicide.
I will not let the Witch control me to give a second kill to scum.

So how is lynching the Escort gonna accomplish that?

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:41 PM
So how is lynching the Escort gonna accomplish that?

I get you are trying to be sarcastic to cause me to remove my vote but truthfully this is a weak post and utterly useless in the assistance of scum hunting.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:43 PM
I get you are trying to be sarcastic to cause me to remove my vote but truthfully this is a weak post and utterly useless in the assistance of scum hunting.

Why would that be sarcastic? I am wondering why you are trying to lynch the Escort when you just said you're suiciding unless we lynch the Witch.

TheDarkestLight
April 2nd, 2013, 03:43 PM
Here is a reality:
If we do not lynch the Witch today I am going to have to suicide.
I will not let the Witch control me to give a second kill to scum.

This is why we RB you to prevent dat kill. Also, if the Hunter targets one of the Escorts I could easily heal you and that would leave everyone safe and happy. :)

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:44 PM
This is why we RB you to prevent dat kill. Also, if the Hunter targets one of the Escorts I could easily heal you and that would leave everyone safe and happy. :)

vote Nicole pls

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:45 PM
This is why we RB you to prevent dat kill. Also, if the Hunter targets one of the Escorts I could easily heal you and that would leave everyone safe and happy. :)

This is a pleasing solution.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:46 PM
This is a pleasing solution.

assuming he's Dr, and not witch

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:50 PM
DO NOT VOTE YET I AM FORMING A PLAN

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 03:50 PM
Sorry, but i don't think that there are 2 escorts. The fact that you seem so sure that ika is a escort and don't want to push a lynch against him makes me think that you actually are the witch. And since damus confirmed that he is the vigi i would rather lynch the witch today to remove 1 scum kpn. Cryptonic Damus should probably shoot 1 of the citizen claimers tonight and write his target in a last will incase he dies.

TheDarkestLight
April 2nd, 2013, 03:51 PM
Sorry, but i don't think that there are 2 escorts. The fact that you seem so sure that ika is a escort and don't want to push a lynch against him makes me think that you actually are the witch. And since damus confirmed that he is the vigi i would rather lynch the witch today to remove 1 scum kpn. Cryptonic Damus should probably shoot 1 of the citizen claimers tonight and write his target in a last will incase he dies.

I know from reason that there is no possible way Crypt can be Evil.

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:52 PM
stop voting. I am forming plan

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:52 PM
here's my thinking:
- TDL doesn't vote anybody, scared of voting his scum buddy.
- clementine wouldn't sign up for a game and miss a night action during an EXTENDED night.
- clementine is likely target of hunter.
- ika claims to have rb'd clementine.
- no one's night actions seem to have been scewed. (Detective DID check TDL, TDL DID target damus, Damus DID get blocked.)

this is what I think happened:
ika is escort and rb clementine, Nicole targeted clementine, clementine died.
TDL witched damus, Cryptonic blocked damus, no action.

also possible, but I find less likely:
Ika witched clementine, Nicole targeted Ika, clementine died.

I guess it could be Bunny or Numbertwo, but they both seem more town to me than Nicole does. All she did was lurk and try to fish out the PRs day 1...

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 03:54 PM
fair enough

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 03:57 PM
ok we know
Witch: tdl, ika, cryptonic
Hunter: nicole, numbertwo, bunny

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 03:58 PM
assuming he's Dr, and not witch

We can find out can't we.

The Plan:
Step One: Lynch Nicole {If she flips Citizen see Step Four}
Step Two: Cryptonic - Role Block Damus_Graves
Step Three: Ika - Roleblock TheDarkestLight
Step Four: Damus_Graves target Numbertwo to kill
Step Five: Orpz target Bunny

Proposed outcome:
• If Cryptonic is an escort I will be unable to kill Numbertwo.

• If TheDarkestLight is the Witch I will not be used to kill anyone.

• If Cryptonc is the Witch the vigilante kill will reveal his lie.

• If TheDarkestLight is the Doctor he will not die if he gets targeted by Hunter.

• If Bunny is the Hunter she will be caught if we follow this plan



This plan, potentially, will foolproof find the scum.

TheDarkestLight
April 2nd, 2013, 03:58 PM
I already know ika is a Witch, I'm just waiting for Damus to out his "brilliant plan".

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 04:01 PM
what happens if Nicole flips citizen, you get blocked, and tdl witches Orpz onto someone else, and hunter uses me to kill you?

TheDarkestLight
April 2nd, 2013, 04:01 PM
We can find out can't we.

The Plan:
Step One: Lynch Nicole {If she flips Citizen see Step Four}
Step Two: Cryptonic - Role Block Damus_Graves
Step Three: Ika - Roleblock TheDarkestLight
Step Four: Damus_Graves target Numbertwo to kill
Step Five: Orpz target Bunny

Proposed outcome:
• If Cryptonic is an escort I will be unable to kill Numbertwo.

• If TheDarkestLight is the Witch I will not be used to kill anyone.

• If Cryptonc is the Witch the vigilante kill will reveal his lie.

• If TheDarkestLight is the Doctor he will not die if he gets targeted by Hunter.

• If Bunny is the Hunter she will be caught if we follow this plan



This plan, potentially, will foolproof find the scum.

This will work, due to the fact I know that ika is scum.

TheDarkestLight
April 2nd, 2013, 04:02 PM
what happens if Nicole flips citizen, you get blocked, and tdl witches Orpz onto someone else, and hunter uses me to kill you?

Nothing, because if I am Witch, that means ika is Escort and I would be unable to Witch anyone.

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 04:02 PM
what happens if Nicole flips citizen, you get blocked, and tdl witches Orpz onto someone else, and hunter uses me to kill you?

Tdl should be roleblocked by ika if he is the witch. Tdl should heal damus if he is the doctor.

Cryptonic
April 2nd, 2013, 04:02 PM
Tdl should be roleblocked by ika if he is the witch. Tdl should heal damus if he is the doctor.

yes, this is a good clause to add

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 04:04 PM
Ika - Roleblocked TDL
Cryptonic - Roleblock Damus
Damus - Shoot Numbertwo {If Nicole flips Citizen}
Orpz - target Ika {To confirm Ika does as requested.}


This should cover any problems

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 04:04 PM
Ika - Roleblocked TDL
Cryptonic - Roleblock Damus
Damus - Shoot Numbertwo {If Nicole flips Citizen}
Orpz - target Ika {To confirm Ika does as requested.}
TDL - heal Damus


This should cover any problems

Fixed

Numbertwo
April 2nd, 2013, 04:11 PM
Nicole

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 04:11 PM
Nicole

Damus_Graves
April 2nd, 2013, 04:12 PM
Ika - Roleblocked TDL
Cryptonic - Roleblock Damus
Damus - Shoot Numbertwo {If Nicole flips Citizen}
Orpz - target Ika {To confirm Ika does as requested.}
TDL - heal Damus

TheDarkestLight
April 2nd, 2013, 04:13 PM
None can stand against the coming darkness...

Nicole

The Godfather
April 2nd, 2013, 04:14 PM
Nicole has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!

Espozito
April 2nd, 2013, 07:35 PM
Night 2. Judgement time.



Nicole was finally lynched.
Nicole's role was Citizen.



Alive:

Damus_Graves
ika
Orpz
TheDarkestLight
Numbertwo
Bunny
Cryptonic

Dead:

Clementine (Investigator) - Night 1: Hunter
Nicole (Citizen) - Day 2: Lynch



1. You may send me night actions, Last Wills and Death Notes.
2. Night will end this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7+am+4.04.2013+MSK).

Espozito
April 3rd, 2013, 08:29 PM
Day 3. Curious minds.



This morning we found Orpz dead in the forest. He had an arrow in his head. His death was fast, probably he couldn't even react to the attacker.
Orpz's role was Detective.

Checking his camp, we found a last will:

Time stamp: 2:19 PM, April 3rd, 2013

wtf why nicole?! N2 or Bunny would have been safer

Anywhosals on night one I tracked TDL and he visited Damus. His doctor claim is believable because Damus is a believable heal target hah. On night two Im tracking Ika, it annoys me that my night action was chosen for me but I logged on too late to argue.

Now for the content:
I believe that Cryptonic is the Witch. From memory, one of his posts went like "what if witch removed doc and hunter visitted X." which sounds a lot like directing night actions to kill Damus. A town would not say that because for that scenario to happen, the witch and hunter would have to cooperate otherwi they both waste a night action. And if I die it would be great for framing ika. I dont think Ika is experienced enough to get me killed and then frame Crypt. I think Crypt realizes that my survival would confirm Ika as Escort so itd make sense for me to die.

If Damus dies, then what must have happened is the witch moved TDL away. If the Witch is ika, I will know immediately. If Crypt is Witch, theres a high chance that he witched TDL onto Numbertwo, effectively framing him. But this would leave Damus alive and he will tell us his night feedback or lack thereof.

Hunter. I think it's Numbertwo. Im not sure if Bunny would be bold enough to cc two people as scum and draw a lot of attention on herself. Plus, N2, assuming scum, voted out Nicole without that much hesistation, and this is most likely because he knew she wasn't the Hunter.

tldr lynch Crypt and N2


Investigator - Clementine
Detective - Orpz
Escort - Ika
Doctor - TheDarkestLight
Vigilante - Damus_Graves
Citizen - Nicole
Citizen - Bunny
Hunter - N2
Witch - Cryptonic

Plus there was a half-burnt Death Note in his campfire. Luckily, we could read what was written there:



Ich hoffe Cryptonic sonst sterben die Hexe ist ein Fehler.





Alive:

Damus_Graves
Cryptonic
ika
Bunny
Numbertwo
TheDarkestLight

Dead:

Clementine (Investigator) - Night 1: Hunter
Nicole (Citizen) - Day 2: Lynch
Orpz (Detective) - Night 2: Hunter



1. 4
2. Skip in yellow, ask in green, vote in tag.
3. Day will end this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=7+am+5.04.13+msk).

TheDarkestLight
April 3rd, 2013, 08:45 PM
Guess what? Nothing happened to me last night. BS on ika's Escort claim. GG no re. #2 is the Hunter.

TheDarkestLight
April 3rd, 2013, 08:50 PM
And despite ika being here and seeing my accusation he leaves.

ika
April 3rd, 2013, 08:54 PM
I'm here Im still at work give me 5 mins to drive home. Typing on iPod is hard.

TheDarkestLight
April 3rd, 2013, 08:54 PM
I'm here Im still at work give me 5 mins to drive home. Typing on iPod is hard.

Yet you typed this in...

ika
April 3rd, 2013, 09:08 PM
Yet you typed this in...

yes through my ipod. but i am home now

Damus_Graves
April 3rd, 2013, 09:19 PM
I have been roleblocked last night.
Cryptonic is cleared.

ika
April 3rd, 2013, 09:20 PM
well i dunno what happened to me then.

Damus_Graves
April 3rd, 2013, 09:21 PM
Investigator - Clementine
Detective - Orpz
Escort - Cryptonic
Doctor/Escort - Ika/TDL
Vigilante - Damus_Graves
Citizen - Nicole
Citizen - Bunny
Hunter - N2
Witch - Ika/TheDarkestLight

Damus_Graves
April 3rd, 2013, 09:28 PM
Ika - Roleblocked TDL
Cryptonic - Roleblock Damus
Damus - Shoot Numbertwo {If Nicole flips Citizen}
Orpz - target Ika {To confirm Ika does as requested.}
TDL - heal Damus

No one should have been targeting Orpz which meant he should not have died.
However he did which means one of three things:
Orpz was roleblocked and the Hunter targeted Orpz
or
Witch targeted Orpz and the Hunter targeted that Witch.
or
Hunter targeted Ika to kill TheDarkestLight who witched Ika onto Orpz.

I think

Damus_Graves
April 3rd, 2013, 09:30 PM
TheDarkestLight


Hunter targeted Ika to kill TheDarkestLight who witched Ika onto Orpz.

This is most likely scenario.

Numbertwo
April 4th, 2013, 09:02 AM
Thedarkestlight When He flips witch you can shoot me and block bunny. Then lynch bunny when im dead.

Bunny
April 4th, 2013, 09:18 AM
Numbertwo

Bunny
April 4th, 2013, 09:18 AM
nothing happened to me last night and i know im cit and that numbertwo is not.

Numbertwo
April 4th, 2013, 09:21 AM
nothing happened to me last night and i know im cit and that numbertwo is not.

I know you are the hunter and that you are trying to protect the witch. We will both be roleblocked tonight so you might just aswell surrender.

Bunny
April 4th, 2013, 09:26 AM
I know you are the hunter and that you are trying to protect the witch. We will both be roleblocked tonight so you might just aswell surrender.

LOL if i surrenderd, the game wouldnt end.. it would just be easier for you to win.. good try tho.

Cryptonic
April 4th, 2013, 09:28 AM
lol i was gonna block ika so that Damus could shoot #2, but thought it'd be better if I followed the plan.. incase TDL was the Witch and got control of damus :P

Numbertwo
Been wanting to lynch this guy from day 1, but other people make themselves look scummier >_>;

Cryptonic
April 4th, 2013, 09:28 AM
Numbertwo votes TDL instead of Bunny. That's stupid as fuck.
If he was the real Citizen, he'd be all over Bunny.

Cryptonic
April 4th, 2013, 09:29 AM
Honestly, I think that ika witched Orpz onto someone else and Numbertwo targeted Ika, killing Orpz.

Cryptonic
April 4th, 2013, 09:31 AM
Investigator - Clementine
Detective - Orpz
Escort - Cryptonic
Doctor/Escort - Ika/TDL
Vigilante - Damus_Graves
Citizen - Nicole
Citizen - Bunny
Hunter - N2
Witch - Ika/TheDarkestLight

if you're 100% on hunter, and 50% sure on witch, why are you trying to kill the witch?
Get rid of the Hunter and the game is basically won.
I'll rb ika, you shoot TDL. if TDL doesn't die tomorrow, we lynch him.

Numbertwo
April 4th, 2013, 09:31 AM
Lol bunny just basicly admited that she is the hunter and you still vote me? Are you going to gamethrow just becouse she's your wife?

Numbertwo
April 4th, 2013, 09:33 AM
I guess there is a possibility that cryptonic controlled ika into visiting damus.

Cryptonic
April 4th, 2013, 09:35 AM
Lol bunny just basicly admited that she is the hunter and you still vote me? Are you going to gamethrow just becouse she's your wife?

Good reading comprehension o.O
If you KNOW bunny is the Hunter, you'd be voting Bunny. Killing the Hunter takes away the evil side's killing power, so you wouldn't be chasing a witch if you knew 100% who the Hunter was. So, I'm to understand you're not Citizen.

Plus, Bunny wouldn't counterclaim someone's Citizen claim, drawing attention to herself like that.

Cryptonic
April 4th, 2013, 09:36 AM
I guess there is a possibility that cryptonic controlled ika into visiting damus.

uh, if i did that, then who visited Orpz?
It was a good try, though.

Bunny
April 4th, 2013, 09:36 AM
Lol bunny just basicly admited that she is the hunter and you still vote me? Are you going to gamethrow just becouse she's your wife?

what are you even talking about?

Cryptonic
April 4th, 2013, 09:38 AM
LOL if i surrenderd, the game wouldnt end.. it would just be easier for you to win.. good try tho.

he thinks this is you claiming Hunter.
Even though this statement is true for any role in the game lol.

Numbertwo
April 4th, 2013, 09:38 AM
Good reading comprehension o.O
If you KNOW bunny is the Hunter, you'd be voting Bunny. Killing the Hunter takes away the evil side's killing power, so you wouldn't be chasing a witch if you knew 100% who the Hunter was. So, I'm to understand you're not Citizen.

Plus, Bunny wouldn't counterclaim someone's Citizen claim, drawing attention to herself like that.

The witch can choose who he wants to kill if he controlls the vigilante. A hunter can't choose who he kills.
I allready told you to block and shoot me tonight then the other escort can block bunny if we have one.

Cryptonic
April 4th, 2013, 09:39 AM
The witch can choose who he wants to kill if he controlls the vigilante. A hunter can't choose who he kills.
I allready told you to block and shoot me tonight then the other escort can block bunny if we have one.


I can block the Witch.
I can block the Vigilante.
Town can control all kills as long as Hunter is dead.

Numbertwo
April 4th, 2013, 09:40 AM
I can block the Witch.
I can block the Vigilante.
Town can control all kills as long as Hunter is dead.

you won't be able to know who the witch is if you lynch a citizen. You will be able to block the hunter but the witch will probably make the vigilante kill you.

Bunny
April 4th, 2013, 09:41 AM
he thinks this is you claiming Hunter.
Even though this statement is true for any role in the game lol.

lol. well if i surendered then there would still be the rest of the town for numbertwo to kill, just one less townie... silly numbertwo.

Cryptonic
April 4th, 2013, 09:42 AM
Possibility 1:

ika (Escort) -> TDL
TDL (Witch) -> ika -> Orpz
Cryptonic (Escort) -> Damus
Damus (Vigilante) -> Blocked
Orpz (Detective) -> Blocked
Bunny (Citizen) -> N/A
Numbertwo (Hunter) -> ika

Possibility 2:

ika (Witch) -> Orpz -> ???
TDL (Doctor) -> Damus
Cryptonic (Escort) -> Damus
Damus (Vigilante) -> Blocked
Orpz (Detective) -> ???
Bunny (Citizen) -> N/A
Numbertwo (Hunter) -> ika

Cryptonic
April 4th, 2013, 09:47 AM
you won't be able to know who the witch is if you lynch a citizen. You will be able to block the hunter but the witch will probably make the vigilante kill you.

Hunter will be dead, so that's not a Problem.
And if I block the wrong witch and Damus shoots me, then we just lynch the other Witch. Not that complicated.

plus, TDL is probably not the Witch.
Just look at ika lurking the fuck outta this game, he's never played this way and he's never been scum.
"I'll be home in 5 minutes to post"
"ok i'm home"
*afks*

Like, this is really crunch time and he's not trying to find out who is scum AT ALL.

Hunter: Numbertwo
Witch: ika