S-FM 68: Democracy

[Gerik]

Role cards have been sent out.

Welcome to 'MURICA

link to setup (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18236-S-FM-Democracy)

Night begins at this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=8pm+march+25th+2013+cst).

Players List:

1. Slaol
2. Damus_Graves
3. Creedkingsx
4. clementine
5. 42shadow42
6. Mintberry Crunch
7. TheDarkestLight
8. Orpz
9. Nicole
10. NoctiZ

There can be a lynch today. Use vote tags. 6

You may also vote for a power role to be added to the town. These votes are cast via PMs to me.

Let the role claim to victory begin!

[Slaol]

-Vote 3 Bus Drivers

[creedkingsx]

players list, por favor?

[Slaol]

players list, por favor?

Framer.

[Gerik]

players list, por favor?

Done.

[Slaol]

Clementine I'll just leave this here.

[Damus_Graves]

Clementine I'll just leave this here.

Butthurt

[Slaol]

Butthurt

Bag of chips.
Damus_Graves

[creedkingsx]

Alright, time to use my power of the vote.
1. Slaol
2. Damus_Graves
3. Creedkingsx
4. clementine
5. 42shadow42
6. Mintberry Crunch
7. TheDarkestLight
8. Orpz
9. Nicole
10NoctiZ

[Slaol]

Alright, time to use my power of the vote.
1. Slaol
2. Damus_Graves
3. Creedkingsx
4. clementine
5. 42shadow42
6. Mintberry Crunch
7. TheDarkestLight
8. Orpz
9. Nicole
10NoctiZ


Creedkingsx
I have determined that I shall vote in every post. Save the Framer accusation on Creed.

[Damus_Graves]

Uh oh. Time for me to claim

I am a Lawyer everyone. I'm sorry to say that I have no chosen my target to keep from being lynched just yet but..
I'm thinking Slaol.. or Creed...
HEY HEY
Maybe CLEM!

[creedkingsx]

Creedkingsx
I have determined that I shall vote in every post. Save the Framer accusation on Creed.

You clearly didn't read the setup, this is a citizen and mafioso only game.

[Slaol]

Uh oh. Time for me to claim

I am a Lawyer everyone. I'm sorry to say that I have no chosen my target to keep from being lynched just yet but..
I'm thinking Slaol.. or Creed...
HEY HEY
Maybe CLEM!

42Shadow42
Seeing as he was the Jester in FM XVII and couldn't get lynched he seems like a good choice.

[TheDarkestLight]

Fuck the police.

[Slaol]

You clearly didn't read the setup, this is a citizen and mafioso only game.

Creedkingsx
You clearly didn't read FM XVI. Framer is how I accused Gerik on day 2. Then he ended up being the scum MVP.

[42shadow42]

42Shadow42
Seeing as he was the Jester in FM XVII and couldn't get lynched he seems like a good choice.

Seems legit, I'm Jester this game too btw.

[Slaol]

Seems legit, I'm Jester this game too btw.

42Shadow42
Damus already claimed the Neutral.

[TheDarkestLight]

Creedkingsx
You clearly didn't read FM XVI. Framer is how I accused Gerik on day 2. Then he ended up being the scum MVP.

Clearly we should make it were the Town get Mafia roles, and Mafia get Town roles.

[Slaol]

Clearly we should make it were the Town get Mafia roles, and Mafia get Town roles.

TheDarkestLight
He wants Mafia Veterans and Bus Drivers. OP Mafia is OP.
Scum slip.

[creedkingsx]

Clearly we should make it were the Town get Mafia roles, and Mafia get Town roles.

where*

[TheDarkestLight]

TheDarkestLight
He wants Mafia Veterans and Bus Drivers. OP Mafia is OP.
Scum slip.

Town get Disguisers and a Godfather, Consigs, Mafioso, Consorts, GG no re.

[creedkingsx]

Town get Disguisers and a Godfather, Consigs, Mafioso, Consorts, GG no re.

Already has coroners, Vigilante, investigator, citizen and Escort. glhbggnore

[Slaol]

Town get Disguisers and a Godfather, Consigs, Mafioso, Consorts, GG no re.

Slaol
And they all share a night chat too!

[TheDarkestLight]

Already has coroners, Vigilante, investigator, citizen and Escort. glhbggnore

Also all the Town know who each other are, so we are the informed majority vs the uninformed minority. GL HF.

[Orpz]

eenie meenie....

Nicole

I counterclaim both Damus and 42's Neutral Benign claim.
I am Hitman. Who wants to be my client?

[Slaol]

Also all the Town know who each other are, so we are the informed majority vs the uninformed minority. GL HF.

TheDarkestLight


Welcome to 'MURICA

[Orpz]

Slaol

[Slaol]

Slaol

Slaol

[Orpz]

I claim Survivor.

[creedkingsx]

OP Town is OP.

^.^

[Orpz]

42Shadow42

He is scum hiding behind Jester.

[creedkingsx]

Orpz
Jester hiding behind Survivor.

[Orpz]

I can support that lynch

[creedkingsx]

There can be a lynch today. Use vote tags.!

Love you for this.
No homo.
hokai mebe uh lil'

[42shadow42]

I claim Survivor.

No player in their right mind chooses survivor.
Orpz

[Orpz]

guys pls.

Survivor is the most fun role in the entire game.

[Orpz]

Also so I don't get lynched by democracy:

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

[Damus_Graves]

hm

[42shadow42]

Ok so, putting aside the jesting gibberish.

@Damus
As mafia what role would you choose?
As town what role would you choose?
As neutral what role would you choose?

[Damus_Graves]

Ok so, putting aside the jesting gibberish.

@Damus
As mafia what role would you choose?
As town what role would you choose?
As neutral what role would you choose?

Blackmailor
Blacksmith
Executioner

[42shadow42]

Blackmailor
Blacksmith
Executioner
Why blackmailer?

[Damus_Graves]

Why blackmailer?

Shut me, Slaol, or Creedkingsx up and leave the town pretty much leaderless.
The three of us are good are unifying town and leading lynches.

[42shadow42]

Shut me, Slaol, or Creedkingsx up and leave the town pretty much leaderless.
The three of us are good are unifying town and leading lynches.

Interesting.

[42shadow42]

Fuck the police.

Is this a mafia claim?

[Orpz]

Nah TDL just really hates the police.

Last s-fm when he was the police he said the same thing

[TheDarkestLight]

Is this a mafia claim?

Well there are no Police in the Town, only Citizens.

[TheDarkestLight]

Orpz, are you an OPtizen this game?

[42shadow42]

Orpz, are you an OPtizen this game?

If you were mafia who would you kill tonight?

[Damus_Graves]

If you were mafia who would you kill tonight?

Damus or Slaol

[42shadow42]

Damus or Slaol

Not directed at you. That was @TDL

[Damus_Graves]

Not directed at you. That was @TDL

I know buts it should be everyones answer.

[TheDarkestLight]

If you were mafia who would you kill tonight?

You -Becuz you are trying to get everyones thoughts and I don't like that- creed -because he knows what the fuck hes doing- Damus -see creed- Slaol -see Damus- and Orpz -just to piss him off because I bet hes gonna get a PR, I just have that gut feeling-.

[TheDarkestLight]

Damus or Slaol

Don't ever answer for me.

[Damus_Graves]

Don't ever answer for me.

Your welcome.

[42shadow42]

You -Becuz you are trying to get everyones thoughts and I don't like that- creed -because he knows what the fuck hes doing- Damus -see creed- Slaol -see Damus- and Orpz -just to piss him off because I bet hes gonna get a PR, I just have that gut feeling-.

Good answer :p

[TheDarkestLight]

So if Damus and Slaol both survive the night, we need to lynch them, cause that is who everyone says they would kill.

[Orpz]

Nah I'm a crazed lunatic who just wants to survive. Everyone is my friend.

Slaol
Damus_Graves
Creedkingsx
Clementine
42Shadow42
Mintberry Crunch
TDL (you're the only name I won't type out fully)
Orpz
Nicole
NoctiZ

[TheDarkestLight]

Nah I'm a crazed lunatic who just wants to survive. Everyone is my friend.

Slaol
Damus_Graves
Creedkingsx
Clementine
42Shadow42
Mintberry Crunch
TDL (you're the only name I won't type out fully)
Orpz
Nicole
NoctiZ

How dare you not type out my whole name. HOW DARE YOU!

[42shadow42]

Orpz, are you an OPtizen this game?

Are OPtizen, and Citriff the same thing?

[TheDarkestLight]

Are OPtizen, and Citriff the same thing?

What... It was a joke. He calls it Shitizen cause its weak. I call it OPtizen cause you know, OP = over powered. I mean seriously, voting is OP.

[Orpz]

I call it Shitizen cause it rhymes and it's a term of endearment

it's my favorite role

[TheDarkestLight]

I call it Shitizen cause it rhymes and it's a term of endearment

it's my favorite role

I thought Doctor was your favorite role?

[TheDarkestLight]

Either that or you hate it which is why you claim it D1.

[Orpz]

I thought Doctor was your favorite role?

Doctor is my favorite role to claim on day 1 if I roll it

[Damus_Graves]

1. Slaol
2. Damus_Graves
3. Creedkingsx
4. clementine
5. 42shadow42
6. Mintberry Crunch
7. TheDarkestLight
8. Orpz
9. Nicole
10. NoctiZ

HM

[TheDarkestLight]

HM

Notice, its his kill priority list. His partner is most likely somewhere around the middle. Possibly Clem.

[42shadow42]

@Orpz

If you had a gun from the blacksmith, who would you shoot?

[Damus_Graves]

Notice, its his kill priority list. His partner is most likely somewhere around the middle. Possibly Clem.

Oo

[TheDarkestLight]

@Orpz

If you had a gun from the blacksmith, who would you shoot?

Nah I'm a crazed lunatic who just wants to survive. Everyone is my friend.

Slaol
Damus_Graves
Creedkingsx
Clementine
42Shadow42
Mintberry Crunch
TDL (you're the only name I won't type out fully)
Orpz
Nicole
NoctiZ
Refer to this.

[Orpz]

@Orpz

If you had a gun from the blacksmith, who would you shoot?

Trying to see if I'm more likely to side with Town or Mafia. It won't work. I am neutral to both and will hold the gun.

[42shadow42]

Notice, its his kill priority list. His partner is most likely somewhere around the middle. Possibly Clem.

Pretty scummy if you ask me.

[TheDarkestLight]

Orpz

He isn't even arguing about what I said, or trolling, which a Town Orpz would do. I think.

[42shadow42]

Trying to see if I'm more likely to side with Town or Mafia. It won't work. I am neutral to both and will hold the gun.

Clearly unpredictable.

Orpz

[Orpz]

Orpz

He isn't even arguing about what I said, or trolling, which a Town Orpz would do. I think.

But...I'm not Town...I'm Neutral :(

[Orpz]

srsly guise. stap. I've already pledged alligience to democracy

[Damus_Graves]

Bad.
Do not lynch the fucking Survivor.

[TheDarkestLight]

Bad.
Do not lynch the fucking Survivor.

How do you know he is Survivor?

[Damus_Graves]

How do you know he is Survivor?

He claimed it. -_-

[Orpz]

How do you know he is Survivor?

He claimed Consigliere day 1. Unfortunately he was replaced so Idk how he's still posting.

[TheDarkestLight]

He claimed it. -_-

And people lie about shit all the time. Scum could claim it. Or the real Neutral might not argue because why would a Jester/Exec claim out loud?

[Damus_Graves]

He claimed Consigliere day 1. Unfortunately he was replaced so Idk how he's still posting.

Wrong game

[Damus_Graves]

And people lie about shit all the time. Scum could claim it. Or the real Neutral might not argue because why would a Jester/Exec claim out loud?

Risk vs Reward

[Orpz]

And people lie about shit all the time. Scum could claim it. Or the real Neutral might not argue because why would a Jester/Exec claim out loud?

You really think I would do that? Lie about my role claim?

[TheDarkestLight]

Risk vs Reward

A Jester/Exec would almost certainly not claim, as that would be to their benefit. And a Scum might claim Survivor knowing this.

[42shadow42]

At what point in day one does neutral pick a role?

[TheDarkestLight]

You really think I would do that? Lie about my role claim?

Thats what scum do.

[Orpz]

At what point in day one does neutral pick a role?

Anytime during day 1.Anytime.


Thats what scum do.

I am an honest man

[TheDarkestLight]

Anytime during day 1.Anytime.



I am an honest man

When you were scum on one game you claim Veteran when you flipped Godfather. Honesty is BS in this game.

[Orpz]

When you were scum on one game you claim Veteran when you flipped Godfather. Honesty is BS in this game.

I flipped Consort that game.

[Damus_Graves]

TDL is a try hard townie.
Orpz is a townie/neutral trying to hide behind the neutral role in order to not die.
Shadow is Townie trying to gather information.
Damus is a Blacksmith :p

[creedkingsx]

What is creed, damus

[Damus_Graves]

What is creed, damus

I don't know yet

[42shadow42]

TDL is a try hard townie.
Orpz is a townie/neutral trying to hide behind the neutral role in order to not die.
Shadow is Townie trying to gather information.
Damus is a Blacksmith :p

Hardly, you look like bonafide scum to me.

[Orpz]

everyone look at damus's sig!!! he is hinting that he can't be trusted!!!

[Damus_Graves]

Hardly, you look like bonafide scum to me.

Maybe

[TheDarkestLight]

TDL is a try hard townie.
Orpz is a townie/neutral trying to hide behind the neutral role in order to not die.
Shadow is Townie trying to gather information.
Damus is a Blacksmith :p

We gotz no PRs yet. Scum. Damus for Maf #2.

[Damus_Graves]

Creed they are discovering me!!!!!
I MUST HIDE!

[TheDarkestLight]

Creed they are discovering me!!!!!
I MUST HIDE!

Damus trolling D1 as Town, that never happens. Scum.

[42shadow42]

We gotz no PRs yet. Scum. Damus for Maf #2.

Or scum #1, Im trying to decide whether orpz is Unclaimed Netural, who may claim Jester.

[Damus_Graves]

I'm not afraid.

[TheDarkestLight]

I'm not afraid.

Like I said, now he is faking Jester.

[Damus_Graves]

Like I said, now he is faking Jester.

No I'm not.

[Damus_Graves]

Although I am disappointed.

[TheDarkestLight]

Although I am disappointed.

Be disapointed.

[Damus_Graves]

Be disappointed.

I am.
I really thought Creed would do more than lurk.

[42shadow42]

Like I said, now he is faking Jester.

You don't need to pound it in, we all know Damus is Mafioso soon to be Blackmailer

[42shadow42]

@Creedkingsx

Opinion on Orpz and Damus?

[Damus_Graves]

I have noticed that many many people on these forums typically project their own role, as scum, onto people they are trying to mislynch.
It's interesting how the moment I display myself as easy to mislynch I have dual people jumping at the "blood in the water"

[42shadow42]

I have noticed that many many people on these forums typically project their own role, as scum, onto people they are trying to mislynch.
It's interesting how the moment I display myself as easy to mislynch I have dual people jumping at the "blood in the water"

I thought you said I was clearly town.

[creedkingsx]

fight me.

[TheDarkestLight]

fight me.

You wanna go? I'll take you and all your boys down!

[Damus_Graves]

I thought you said I was clearly town.

I wasn't aware I called you scum somewhere

[Orpz]

snape kills dumbledore

[Gerik]

At what point in day one does neutral pick a role?

Any time they desire.

[TheDarkestLight]

snape kills dumbledore

No, his wand does. Like you never actually kill someone, the bullet does.

[Jim]

Sorry after playing Sim Ctiy I have determined that my role is Mayor, I will just leave that there.

[Damus_Graves]

Sorry after playing Sim Ctiy I have determined that my role is Mayor, I will just leave that there.

Thank you for claiming

[creedkingsx]

Meryl eats a teenager

[Orpz]

Duane turns

[Orpz]

does anyone else notice 42 started trying to gather info after I call him scum????????????????????????????????????

[creedkingsx]

How many roles does town get? Say 7 of us vote for once for each power role, do they all come out?

[creedkingsx]

Note: The town may only vote on one role per day, and the mafia may only take one role per night.
nvm :|

[42shadow42]

Any time they desire.

Damus_Graves

[creedkingsx]

Investigative is completely impossible. No investigative roles..
Journalist
Closest thing to an investigative.

[Gerik]

How many roles does town get? Say 7 of us vote for once for each power role, do they all come out?

Must spread rep for the use of rainbow.

Town may gain only one power role per day. If there is a tie, I will random between the tied roles. All PR town in one day would be OP. lol

[creedkingsx]

@Creedkingsx

Opinion on Orpz and Damus?

I don't provide opinions unless it is a necessity. My notes stay to myself. No reason to help the scum unless it helps the town, which it won't right now.

[42shadow42]

Investigative is completely impossible. No investigative roles..
Journalist
Closest thing to an investigative.

Scum #2?

[creedkingsx]

Must spread rep for the use of rainbow.

Town may gain only one power role per day. If there is a tie, I will random between the tied roles. All PR town in one day would be OP. lol

Yeah, I noticed the one per day after I said that. lol

[creedkingsx]

Oh, and all questions should be rainbow colored. Modkill if otherwise. K? thnx

[creedkingsx]

Scum #2?

I am scum #1, obviously. Everyone else is lesser than I.

[42shadow42]

I am scum #1, obviously. Everyone else is lesser than I.

Scum #1 wouldn't have given out an obvious scum tell.

[creedkingsx]

Scum #1 wouldn't have given out an obvious scum tell.

I am so confident that you won't do anything about it that I can.

[creedkingsx]

btw, why is slaol the only person that has voted for a role? Does nobody want input on how our role is s constructed? Lazy fucks.

[Orpz]

btw, why is slaol the only person that has voted for a role? Does nobody want input on how our role is s constructed? Lazy fucks.

it's done over pm LOL

[creedkingsx]

:D

[creedkingsx]

Orpz, it's not over pms. it's definitely here in day chat. Come on. Step up.

[42shadow42]

I am so confident that you won't do anything about it that I can.

Lies I've already voted Vigilante​ I plan to shoot you.

[creedkingsx]

Lies I've already voted Vigilante​ I plan to shoot you.

You are thoroughly stupid then. LOL

[Orpz]

Hm. Maybe I should vote for a role in the game thread
42Shadow42

I'd sure as hell would want to be a Citizen turned 42Shadow42.

[creedkingsx]

me2
42shadow42

[42shadow42]

Damus_Graves

Wait what about this post deserves rep?

[creedkingsx]

Had nothing to do with the post. The person isn't even playing the game.

[42shadow42]

Just pointing out I said I'd shoot creed and instantly get voted by both Orpz and Creed

[Orpz]

Just pointing out I said I'd shoot creed and instantly get voted by both Orpz and Creed

I actually voted you about 120 posts ago.

[42shadow42]

I actually voted you about 120 posts ago.

But the emphasis means something.

[Damus_Graves]

Had nothing to do with the post. The person isn't even playing the game.

:|

[creedkingsx]

The fact that A. You'd choose vigilante over one of two roles that can actually find information
and
B. You imply honestly think you'd get it out a 14% chance
makes you scum.

Or you are bad at this and are way over your head.

[creedkingsx]

:|

Smod.
Can see people's rep.
Wanted to make sure it wasn't someone cheating so I could inform Gerik if needed.
I assure you the person who did it meant no relation to the game.

[Damus_Graves]

NoctiZ

[Damus_Graves]

Smod.
Can see people's rep.
Wanted to make sure it wasn't someone cheating so I could inform Gerik if needed.
I assure you the person who did it meant no relation to the game.

OH

[42shadow42]

Smod.
Can see people's rep.
Wanted to make sure it wasn't someone cheating so I could inform Gerik if needed.
I assure you the person who did it meant no relation to the game.

I wouldn't have mentioned it if it was mod or someone, but seriously of all the posts :P

[creedkingsx]

I wouldn't have mentioned it if it was mod or someone, but seriously of all the posts :P

Can you see who did it?

[Gerik]

Don't mind me guys, I'm spreading rep. NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

[creedkingsx]

Well, now you can. lol

[42shadow42]

Can you see who did it?

The text gave me a clue.

[Damus_Graves]

*giggchuk*

[creedkingsx]

http://www.youtube.com/user/GiggChuck
?

[Damus_Graves]

:O

[42shadow42]

The fact that A. You'd choose vigilante over one of two roles that can actually find information
and
B. You imply honestly think you'd get it out a 14% chance
makes you scum.

Or you are bad at this and are way over your head.

Call me crazy if you wish, but anyone that throws that many scum tells in one post is either scum or jester, and the best response to that is night killed.

[TheDarkestLight]

Call me crazy if you wish, but anyone that throws that many scum tells in one post is either scum or jester, and the best response to that is night killed.

Not lynched?

[TheDarkestLight]

Oh yeah Jester.

[Damus_Graves]

Call me crazy if you wish, but anyone that throws that many scum tells in one post is either scum or jester, and the best response to that is night killed.

There was one scum tell in his post and it was miniature.

[Orpz]

But the emphasis means something.

actually i was voting for a role ok

[42shadow42]

Call me crazy if you wish, but anyone that throws that many scum tells in one post is either scum or jester, and the best response to that is night killed.


Not lynched?

Added emphasis

[creedkingsx]

Call me crazy if you wish, but anyone that throws that many scum tells in one post is either scum or jester, and the best response to that is night killed.

My scum tells are never an accident or else I wouldn't be telling everyone here that you are scum.

[42shadow42]

There was one scum tell in his post and it was miniature.

Reread setup plz.

[42shadow42]

My scum tells are never an accident or else I wouldn't be telling everyone here that you are scum.

So you are a cit trying to look scummy? *Head Explodes*

[creedkingsx]

Reread setup plz.

I'll set you up.
on a date.
with a werewolf.
loving female.

[creedkingsx]

So you are a cit trying to look scummy? *Head Explodes*

7 of us are cits.
:o

[TheDarkestLight]

I'll set you up.
on a date.
with a werewolf.
loving female.

Team Jacob!

[42shadow42]

Team Jacob!

:sick:

[creedkingsx]

Team Jacob!

lol'd

[Slaol]

I'm back.
We should discuss what roles we should vote for.
I am pro Vigilante/Blacksmith, since Journalist isn't quite there as investigative to get full answers. That or Escort, since it is an offensive style role that won't potentially team kill.
Escort- 'Protective'
Vigilante- Risk/Reward
Blacksmith- More confirmable Vigilante +Risk/Reward

Blacksmith

[Damus_Graves]

I'm back.
We should discuss what roles we should vote for.
I am pro Vigilante/Blacksmith, since Journalist isn't quite there as investigative to get full answers. That or Escort, since it is an offensive style role that won't potentially team kill.
Escort- 'Protective'
Vigilante- Risk/Reward
Blacksmith- More confirmable Vigilante +Risk/Reward

Blacksmith

Blacksmith
Yes. GIVE ME A GODDAMN VEST!

[42shadow42]

Blacksmith
Yes. GIVE ME A GODDAMN VEST!

No thank you.

[42shadow42]

Setup didn't mention last wills, are they allowed or prohibited?

[Orpz]

No thank you.

42 doesn't want Damus to have a vest because 42 wants to shoot Damus!!!
can we lynch 42 after I pick Executioner with 42 as my target?

[Slaol]

42shadow42
What roles should we have then? And why shouldn't Damus have a vest?

[Slaol]

hi.

[42shadow42]

42shadow42
What roles should we have then? And why shouldn't Damus have a vest?

Blacksmith is fine, but Damus by no means would be the best vest choice.

[Damus_Graves]

Blacksmith is fine, but Damus by no means would be the best vest choice.

At this moment in time either Myself or TheDarkestLight is the best choice for Vest receiver.
Yes I am screwing with the minds of those scum.

[42shadow42]

[Vote]creedkingsx[/COLOR]

Someone back me up on this.

[42shadow42]

[Vote]creedkingsx[/COLOR]

Someone back me up on this.
creedkingsx
Fail lol

[42shadow42]

At this moment in time either Myself or TheDarkestLight is the best choice for Vest receiver.
Yes I am screwing with the minds of those scum.

Hardly, if you were town, which I'm not convinced you would be the last person I'd shoot at the present time.

[Damus_Graves]

Here you go Shadow. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+to+scum+hunt)

[Gerik]

Setup didn't mention last wills, are they allowed or prohibited?

That was a mistake on my part. Last wills and death notes are not allowed.


hi.

hi.

Official announcement:

I will be busy tomorrow and will not be able to end day exactly at 8, so I will probably end the day 30 minutes to an hour early (7pm-7:30pm cst) unless a lynch occurs before then.

[Damus_Graves]

I'm heading to bed. I have a half day of classes tomorrow so don't expect a load of activity on my part.

[Damus_Graves]

Bedtime (www.failedlink.com)

[Gerik]

Bedtime (www.failedlink.com)

Nighty night.

[Nicole]

-vote Escort

[creedkingsx]

I legit want Shadow gone.
He so scummy.

[Damus_Graves]

Bed has deemed me unready for rest.

[Damus_Graves]

I legit want Shadow gone.
He so scummy.

Too Aggressive to be scum.

[Damus_Graves]

Too Aggressive to be scum.

I think Shadow is a newer player to the game and is following SC2mafia rules...I think

Hi Clem

[creedkingsx]

Too Aggressive to be scum.

Then he is really bad at this game.
I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and say they are scum before calling them simply bad

[clementine]

Sup guys. Sorry I'm late.
Was traveling and my phone ran out of batteries.
Also played Dominion and the Battlestar Galactica Board Game (which we should totally get going in the games section if anyone is down.)

Gonna go read this real quick and then send out role cards for my sfm. Promising quantity here but not quality. Oh well. :(

[clementine]

Butthurt


Bag of chips.
Damus_Graves

Sodding bags of chips. The both of you.

[Damus_Graves]

<4 Clem

[clementine]

Butthurt


Bag of chips.
Damus_Graves


eenie meenie....

Nicole

I counterclaim both Damus and 42's Neutral Benign claim.
I am Hitman. Who wants to be my client?


I claim Survivor.

I learned in creeds sfm never to trust any of Orpz's D1 claims.
Ok.
Therefore Orpz not neutral.

[Damus_Graves]

:laugh:

[clementine]

Shut me, Slaol, or Creedkingsx up and leave the town pretty much leaderless.
The three of us are good are unifying town and leading lynches.

Excuse me. I exist.
You sodding bag of chips!!!


-vote Escort

Yes.

[clementine]

Srsface we gotta go triple escort.
Escort becomes more Op the more of them we have.

[creedkingsx]

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU, CLEMENTINE.

[Damus_Graves]

Excuse me. I exist.
You sodding bag of chips!!!

I forgot you were here :)

Hm

Blacksmtih...Escort...
Blacksmith...Escort...


Blacksmith...Escort...

There are the two safest roles to vote for.

Blacksmith...

Hm...

I have..Thought.

This question may have been asked before:

Are the people who gain the voted for roles revealed?

[clementine]

Srry too much phone lag D:

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[Damus_Graves]

Escort

[Orpz]

:( I actually am Neutral and I'm benign as fuck

I'm voting Escort. Blacksmith and Bus Driver might end up getting me killed x_x

[clementine]

-vote Escort

Ty for color Damus bc can't do color tags on phone :(

[Gerik]

Are the people who gain the voted for roles revealed?

No. That would defeat the purpose of the mechanic.

[Damus_Graves]

We can manipulate this mechanic to confirm people.

[creedkingsx]

people who voted escort=bad

How often is Escort useful in the early game? We need to legitimately think about the fact that these roles are first. Escort won't be useful right now, ergo wasted time on our power role.
Coroner would immediately prevent mafia from choosing Janitor, WE CAN CONTROL THEM, or journalist can give us added information immediately.

[Damus_Graves]

people who voted escort=bad

How often is Escort useful in the early game? We need to legitimately think about the fact that these roles are first. Escort won't be useful right now, ergo wasted time on our power role.
Coroner would immediately prevent mafia from choosing Janitor, WE CAN CONTROL THEM, or journalist can give us added information immediately.

It's about time.
Since you have begun your sharing mood my friend would you mind hinting to me what we should vote for tonight when we hit out night chat?

[Damus_Graves]

Possible Mafia: Mafioso, Consigliere, Consort, Blackmailer, Janitor

Possible Town: Citizen, Doctor, Escort, Vigilante, Blacksmith, Journalist, Bus Driver, Coroner

Possible Neutrals: Jester, Executioner, Lawyer, Survivor, Hitman

Short term I agree creed.
But long term is the mindset I was in

Going into thought processing be right back

[clementine]

people who voted escort=bad

How often is Escort useful in the early game? We need to legitimately think about the fact that these roles are first. Escort won't be useful right now, ergo wasted time on our power role.
Coroner would immediately prevent mafia from choosing Janitor, WE CAN CONTROL THEM, or journalist can give us added information immediately.

What added information when everyone is/claims citizen except the lameos who claim benign neutral? Journalist is absolutely useless in this setup right now.

[Damus_Graves]

Only one role assigned at a time?

[Damus_Graves]

Only one role assigned at a time?
nvm

[clementine]

Short term I agree creed.
But long term is the mindset I was in

Going into thought processing be right back

IM MONITORING THE TIME IT TAKES YOU TO THOUGHT PROCESS. YOU BETTER COME BACK WITH SOMETHING GOOD OR ELSE YOU ARE A CONFIRMED SODDING BAG OF CHIPS.

(I hope this isn't some people's first impressions of me... Because I think this would be a terrible first impression O.o)
(I just like doing damus insults for teh lolz)
(they amuse me)

[creedkingsx]

Worrying about people getting a bad first impression on you is bad. :P
I voted for journalist.

It forces a person to talk.
Someone talking is good.

[creedkingsx]

Coroner would be the best second choice simply because it forces mafia to not choose Janitor.

[clementine]

Worrying about people getting a bad first impression on you is bad. :P
I voted for journalist.

It forces a person to talk.
Someone talking is good.


Coroner would be the best second choice simply because it forces mafia to not choose Janitor.

These are way too situational. Denied.

[creedkingsx]

Neither are situational.
lol

[Damus_Graves]

Most likely the Mafia are going to take these roles:
Consort, Janitor. Of those two. Janitor.

Because taking away the graveyard roles is a huge step in taking away information from the town.
So:
Mafia - Janitor, Mafioso tonight most likely.



Town then need to realize this and take on Coroner to block said Janitor choice.
Coroner, Doctor, Escort
Are the most useful utility roles available for the town itself.

I do think we should head in that direction based on the evaluation of Mafia predictions I gave, pending further discussion.

Mafia cannot kill and take their role actions, if i remember correctly, so we should assume they will only choose those most useful.


tl;dr

Town needs to counter Mafia Janitor, assuming mafia have any brains.

[Damus_Graves]

Mintberry I have two very important question for you. It is monumental in determining your alignment.

1 Who is your biggest suspect, no explanation please.
2 What do you think of me

[creedkingsx]

Thing is, we should do coroner the night after a role gets cleaned. Coroner can't act until then, I say let mafia choose Janitor and fear us picking a coroner. This keeps us from potentially wasting a chosen role and keeps the fear of the fact that we can use coroner and any given moment. We lose knowing a person's role in the graveyard for one day, and that's it.

[Damus_Graves]

Journalist is a last will system where the interviewee has to assume he is dying that night and pull out an all stops read on everyone.. while useful it is mostly useless as long as we can use our time during the day well and use last wills, assuming they are allowed.. I haven't checked.

[Damus_Graves]

K they are not allowed. This enables Journalist use..
hm

[Damus_Graves]

Peliminary Reads:
1. Slaol - Town:
He hit the game with a slight grudge and swiftly debunked it and returned to trolling with his usual style. However there has been undertones of a push towards certain roles to choose from.

2. Damus_Graves - Town

3. Creedkingsx - Town:
Asked for a Player List and has proceeded to openly convince people towards certain roles. In this game with these mechanics I do not believe scum would be so active in their "manipulations" of town choosing roles. Nor would they try so hard too push town in certain directions because of the abbresiveness of the action in regards to the town's direction.

4. clementine - Undecided.
I need more input. At the moment I am 45% town.

5. 42shadow42 - Town:
He has been pushy against everyone so far and very vocal in his theories. Neither of which are very scummy.

6. Mintberry Crunch - Neutral:
Just a cautionairy placement. He has claimed an impossible role and his lurked since. His first post was more than 2-3 lines if I remember correctly which I shall evaluate more indepth.

7. TheDarkestLight - Town:
Pushy, Loud, Attention getting. Without a Night One in which for scum to get a game plan this spontaneous outburst is a poor action for any scum to take at this moment.

8. Orpz - Scummy:
He has been largely lurkish and hesitant in his placement of opinions from what I have seen. Probably wants to be forgotten but I cannot be sure.

9. Nicole - Absent

10. NoctiZ - Absent

[Damus_Graves]

Sorry after playing Sim Ctiy I have determined that my role is Mayor, I will just leave that there.

Never Mind.

This still suggests Neutral/Scum.

[Jim]

Never Mind.

This still suggests Neutral/Scum.

Seems legit, obviously Damus hates Sim City because Godzilla attacks his city as soon as it was made.

[Nicole]

We should choose Escort today. We can decide between Journalist, Coroner, Doctor and Vigilante tomorrow, depending on the role mafia chose.

I PMed my choice to Gerik.

Why is everyone acting uncaring, dim and suspicious when mafia know exactly who are town?

[Damus_Graves]

Mintberry I have two very important question for you. It is monumental in determining your alignment.

1 Who is your biggest suspect, no explanation please.
2 What do you think of me

Mint.

[Damus_Graves]

We should choose Escort today. We can decide between Journalist, Coroner, Doctor and Vigilante tomorrow, depending on the role mafia chose.

I PMed my choice to Gerik.

Why is everyone acting uncaring, dim and suspicious when mafia know exactly who are town?

Need your immediate reaction to my list of reads.

[Jim]

Mintberry I have two very important question for you. It is monumental in determining your alignment.

1 Who is your biggest suspect, no explanation please.
2 What do you think of me

1.Creed
2.You are Damus you take the rains whether you are scum or not and always acuse me as I always acuse you.

[Nicole]

-vote NoctiZ

Mafia trying to make us forget that they exist.

[creedkingsx]

1.Creed

WRONG MUTHA FUCKA LOLOLOL

[Damus_Graves]

NoctiZ

and yet..
no vote count on him

[creedkingsx]

Why is everyone acting uncaring, dim and suspicious when mafia know exactly who are town?

They don't.

[creedkingsx]

NoctiZ

and yet..
no vote count on him

can only vote people who have posted. This prevents people just voting some random person on the forums.

[clementine]

We should choose Escort today. We can decide between Journalist, Coroner, Doctor and Vigilante tomorrow, depending on the role mafia chose.

I PMed my choice to Gerik.

Why is everyone acting uncaring, dim and suspicious when mafia know exactly who are town?

Nicole is the most pro-town person here. Besides myself, of course.

[Damus_Graves]

Nicole is the most pro-town person here. Besides myself, of course.

Don't award Pro Town status to people who agree with you and sheep with the general feel of town's direction as their basic introduction to the thread. You are better than that

[creedkingsx]

Don't award Pro Town status to people who agree with you and sheep with the general feel of town's direction as their basic introduction to the thread. You are better than that

People who sheep behind me are always pro town.

[clementine]

can only vote people who have posted. This prevents people just voting some random person on the forums.

Also creed i am proud of you for knowing stuff about the forums and spreading the knowledge :)

[creedkingsx]

uhmma bloo

[clementine]

Don't award Pro Town status to people who agree with you and sheep with the general feel of town's direction as their basic introduction to the thread. You are better than that

She was the one who suggested Escort in the first place, BEFORE I ARRIVED IN THE THREAD.
PAY ATTENTION.
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[Jim]

Nicole is the most pro-town person here. Besides myself, of course.

I agree Clem.

[clementine]

uhmma bloo

daba dee daba die

[Damus_Graves]

So she did. That changed my read on you Clem.

[Damus_Graves]

Clementine

[Jim]

New rule everyone sheep one person, we all pm that name to Gerik and he announces who we shall sheep.

[clementine]

I agree Clem.

Mint seems town too... but not sure if b/c he is agreeing with me...

nah I think he's posting too much to be scum.