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FM Rob Lucci
March 16th, 2013, 12:18 PM
I mean come on, why did Crocodile think that it's okay to reveal just because his numbers fit? Sure, he probably had his math right, BUT NOT THE ACTUAL SITUATION. :evil:

If I could then I would vote LVP Pirates just because I'm disappointed in their moves..

The only chance to win is if they magically don't find the Janitor. Which I doubt. Crocodile had the perfect standing because people believed him to be vented (atleast that seemed to be the case)..

Argh. Anyway, what do you think on how we proceed now? We should kill Luffy for sure and hope that the Janitor goes for a townplayer.. But what about the day? I don't think we will be able to coordinate anything and if every player comes back and is active again then we will lose for sure.

FM Blueno
March 16th, 2013, 12:36 PM
Wow, fucking Buggy. We should have killed him a while ago. Ok, we need to try to get the Town to lynch the Jester, it's the only possible way.

If we decide to follow the Marines and kill the Janitor, here is what happens,

Infiltrator
Drug Dealer

Navy Admiral

Jester

Journalist
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


This is ONLY if we kill the Janitor, and the Pirates kill the Doc. At this point we have to lynch the Jester and then kill some townie.

Infiltrator
Drug Dealer

Navy Admiral

Journalist
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

At this point we are screwed.

If we kill a townie and the pirates do too here is what happens.

Janitor

Infiltrator
Drug Dealer

Navy Admiral

Jester

Journalist
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

At this point the Town still outnumbers us 6-5 -if the Marines side with us- and to keep the Marines with us we have to lynch the Janitor. However, we might be able to trick them into lynching a fake one. That makes it 5v5, at which point we kill a Town and they kill the last Marine, then we stall to lynch the Jester, and we finally end him, -possibly killing the last Pirate to get a solo-.

I suggest I claim I used my gun yet it failed, claiming it hit someone who was healed.

FM Rob Lucci
March 16th, 2013, 12:47 PM
Hm I agree on a solo win if possible, we have to watch the numbers. Of course we never would've gone along with the Janitor kill this night because that would ruin us.

Maybe you say that the Janitor got healed but you shot him? It's the only way to have the Marine with us. I don't think they would go for a lucky lynch, they would probably lynch us to get us out of the way.. except if they believe the last Janitor or the Ventriloquist to be such a big threat that they need to lynch them..

We have to go for the Doctor if we believe the Janitor to follow our list. It's the only way. If they lynch the Janitor then we can surrender obviously, so let's hope that luck is on our side. I should probably state that the Janitor has to play as towny as possible when the day starts, it likely might not save us though. The only guys who are in serious trouble are the Janitor and FM Blackbeard. Everyone else voted for the Pirate Captain. This is going to end badly.

FM Blueno
March 16th, 2013, 12:58 PM
I think we should claim Blackbeard is the Janitor. People assume he is scummy. Either him or Jimbei.

FM Rob Lucci
March 16th, 2013, 01:02 PM
The problem is that they may believe it's the other guy, X Drake, if we say this. Maybe we suggest trade: Janitor vs Jester?

FM Blueno
March 16th, 2013, 01:04 PM
Can you explain the trade?

FM Rob Lucci
March 16th, 2013, 01:07 PM
Can you explain the trade?

We explain that the shot failed and that we still would like the Jester to win. We suggest giving them the Janitor in exchange for a lynch on the Jester afterwards.

FM Blueno
March 16th, 2013, 01:12 PM
We explain that the shot failed and that we still would like the Jester to win. We suggest giving them the Janitor in exchange for a lynch on the Jester afterwards.

The Marines wouldn't got for it, because Nami would die from the Janitor. The Town would probably just lynch us if we wouldn't give out the Janitor.

FM Rob Lucci
March 16th, 2013, 01:18 PM
The Marines wouldn't got for it, because Nami would die from the Janitor. The Town would probably just lynch us if we wouldn't give out the Janitor.

Sure, Nami will probably die tonight (I hope she doesn't). I don't even care about the Jester, we just want to have a mislynch. This is literally our way of getting a mislynch on Blackbeard. We just have to know how we go about this. Maybe they don't believe the person who we tell them to target. Maybe we should tell them to lynch X Drake?

FM Blueno
March 16th, 2013, 01:24 PM
The Jester is our chance to win, we need that extra kill, also it saves us for one day from a lynch. Lynching the Jester tommorow, or a Townie is our best chance.

I think we should kill Luffy, since the Pirates will most likely go for someone else. Maybe drug someone to be attack/healed so it gives legitimacy to my gunshot claim.

FM Rob Lucci
March 16th, 2013, 01:41 PM
The Jester is our chance to win, we need that extra kill, also it saves us for one day from a lynch. Lynching the Jester tommorow, or a Townie is our best chance.

I think we should kill Luffy, since the Pirates will most likely go for someone else. Maybe drug someone to be attack/healed so it gives legitimacy to my gunshot claim.

Seems you are right that we need the Jester to win, which is why we should make them lynch the Jester. This would probably only happen if we tell them the Janitor and they lynch them, but make it so that Blackbeard and X Drake are still alive so a mislynch occurs and the real Janitor is still alive.

We could heal/attack on Jimbei and claim that he is the real Janitor once they agree to the trade or something.. Maybe Gecko Moria, who knows. It's hard.

FM Blueno
March 16th, 2013, 02:04 PM
I already claimed Gecko was the Vent. Also I am 90% sure they know Jimbei isn't scum especially after we argued that he wasn't a Pirate, that leaves X Drake and Blackbeard. People already suspect Blackbeard, so we can almost surely get him lynched.

FM Rob Lucci
March 16th, 2013, 02:26 PM
I already claimed Gecko was the Vent. Also I am 90% sure they know Jimbei isn't scum especially after we argued that he wasn't a Pirate, that leaves X Drake and Blackbeard. People already suspect Blackbeard, so we can almost surely get him lynched.

Sure, people think that Jimbei is cleared, but what if that was WIFOM?

Anyway, my problem is that while Blackbeard is an easy mislynch, this will only happen if they trust us to tell them the right target. After that night they will lynch the other person, X Drake. After that it's very unlikely that we win.

FM Ferengi
March 16th, 2013, 09:42 PM
Do you want to end Night 8 now? Everyone else submitted their night actions. I'm assuming that you want to kill FM Straw Hat Luffy, right?

FM Blueno
March 16th, 2013, 11:03 PM
Infiltrator kill: FM Straw Hat Luffy
Drug Dealer Attack/Heal: FM Blackbeard

I will frame Blackbeard as the Janitor. Lets see how it goes.