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FM Ferengi
March 15th, 2013, 08:06 AM
Day 7 has started, you can now resume your discussion. There are quite a number of stunning revelations now, right?

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 08:11 AM
Haha, so there never was an Escort.

I have to say; although the CP9 was imba from the start since they found out the Pirate Captain since the very beginning, they played this like real pros.

Props to them.

Town made a lot of bad decisions.

So, Dracule Mihawk, Black Leg Sanji, Don Krieg and Crocodile are confirmed scum. Maybe that's even the whole CP9 team there.


I'm surprised we didn't hear more from Zoro. He's been awfully quiet.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 08:15 AM
And the fact that all three of those dead PRs were lurker-ishs didn't really help at all!

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 08:20 AM
If I may ask, who decided to shoot me with the gun?

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 09:38 AM
It's a little silly that the rebels found 2 scum for the town early, yet the town didn't do anything with that information after some easily faked PR claims.

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 09:41 AM
To be fair, I thought you were scum as well because you were knee-deep in the feedback claim mess that didn't add up.

It's still possible that Sanji is a consort, no? Even though his voting behaviour was rather anti-pirate.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 10:25 AM
Yeah. I guess it was because of my activity; I was a prime target. It all started with Big Mom and the EM charges on the first day.
By the way, Yesterday, I was not vented. But I was the day before; which confirms Crocodile as CP9; most likely to be the Vent. But Bonney is a bit... dense. And so is the rest of the town, actually.

Funny how I called out Big Mom to be vented and I also called out Kuma to be town.
The fact that CP9 was so strong gimped us hard; but Town sure didn't help themselves.

And for Sanji, It is not. Unless Straw Hat Luffy AND Nami are lying about the heal.
There is a missing Pirate kill.

FM Donquixote Doflamingo
March 15th, 2013, 10:31 AM
And the fact that all three of those dead PRs were lurker-ishs didn't really help at all!

I failed thinking that Kuma was lying. He acted extremely scummy while dracule actually acted like a coroner. Sadly I gave Dracule a gun before he started acting scummy so possibly him. Bonny also has a gun.

Bonny not getting my obvious hints was so bad....Apparently Dracule could figure it out, but not bonney. Lol gg

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 10:37 AM
So you gave a gun to Bonney last night?
Let's hope the Witch doesn't decide to control her tonight.
This could turn the tides around, actually.

Who else did you give guns/armors to, out of curiosity?

(And yes, I completely agree that Bonney can't take hints at all. I simply can't believe hse still thinks Croc is legit and that he was vented. I mean what the hell?)

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 12:09 PM
Well, that was an unexpected lynch. No idea it would happen so fast.
We can only pray it was the Witch or Vent now.

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 12:45 PM
Well, that was an unexpected lynch. No idea it would happen so fast.
We can only pray it was the Witch or Vent now.

It was indeed. The marines were foolish and didn't unvote me in time. My other allies also failed to do this, but I had hoped the marines would be the trend-setters.

To clarify, I had a gun, but fragos said I could not use it and my action at the same time (load of bull if you ask me), so I decided to force bonney to use hers on you instead of doing it myself.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 12:57 PM
Aw sheesh, well played, so Bonney no longer has the gun.
Your playstyle totally reminded me of Michigan J Frog from the last FM!

I have to say though. Fuck you guys for gimping me so bad! :)
Who decided to solve my code on that day?

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 12:58 PM
And how did you figure out that she had a gun/that we had a Blacksmith?

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 12:58 PM
Why is the graveyard chat so...dead?

I read every post in all day discussion threads and I've only been dead for less than an hour. There should be way more posts than this. I'm beginning to feel like I'm the only one who cares about this game.

TALK TO ME.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 01:00 PM
Why is the graveyard chat so...dead?

I read every post in all day discussion threads and I've only been dead for less than an hour. There should be way more posts than this. I'm beginning to feel like I'm the only one who cares about this game.

TALK TO ME.

Yeah no kidding.
There wasn't even a single post on Day 4. :(

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 01:01 PM
YAY. SOMEONE IS HERE.


Aw sheesh, well played, so Bonney no longer has the gun.
Your playstyle totally reminded me of Michigan J Frog from the last FM!

I have to say though. Fuck you guys for gimping me so bad! :)
Who decided to solve my code on that day?

Sorry. You were a bit of a threat, so we had to take you out. :P

I was the one who solved your code. Not bad, eh?

Haha I'm glad I reminded you of Frog. I definitely took inspiration from her.


And how did you figure out that she had a gun/that we had a Blacksmith?

She was hinting at it pretty hard, and I had already received one, so I knew how to interpret the hints. I decided it was better to use hers because otherwise she would have killed me at night and town wouldn't have had to use a lynch on me. Plus I got to coordinate scum during the day. Though I confess, I thought I would at least have more time to do it, even if I didn't survive.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 01:12 PM
YAY. SOMEONE IS HERE.



Sorry. You were a bit of a threat, so we had to take you out. :P

I was the one who solved your code. Not bad, eh?

Haha I'm glad I reminded you of Frog. I definitely took inspiration from her.



She was hinting at it pretty hard, and I had already received one, so I knew how to interpret the hints. I decided it was better to use hers because otherwise she would have killed me at night and town wouldn't have had to use a lynch on me. Plus I got to coordinate scum during the day. Though I confess, I thought I would at least have more time to do it, even if I didn't survive.

Very well done indeed!
I'm still pretty mad about that code.
I wasn't lying when I said the site wasn't working from where I was and I was really in a hurry; so I had to make a fast one on the spot. Darnit.

And me, a threat? I was just a harmless Citizen. ;)

Was I spot on with the above list for the CP9?

(Still bitter than they won't acknowledge Crocodile as the Vent. GAH.)

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 01:16 PM
Unless I'm really missing something, Don Krieg has made it really obvious that he's CP9.

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 01:18 PM
All 4 of the players you listed are scum, but one of them is not cp9. :)

You were a threat because you were one of the smartest town players alive. If the pirates kill Ace tonight, that'll be the last of them. Then we should see Bonney die, not because she's been playing particularly well, but because she's confirmed and trusted, so without her leading, the town will not be able to trust anyone. At least, that's our plan. We'll see how it pans out.

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 01:23 PM
Very well done indeed!
I'm still pretty mad about that code.
I wasn't lying when I said the site wasn't working from where I was and I was really in a hurry; so I had to make a fast one on the spot. Darnit.

And me, a threat? I was just a harmless Citizen. ;)

Was I spot on with the above list for the CP9?

(Still bitter than they won't acknowledge Crocodile as the Vent. GAH.)

If it makes you feel any better, we cracked bonney's code on day 2, but decided not to vent her because it would be easy to discover that she was vented and we didn't want to reveal that we could crack codes so early in the game.

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 01:26 PM
Unless I'm really missing something, Don Krieg has made it really obvious that he's CP9.

Do tell.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 01:36 PM
Interesting.
So Don Krieg is a pirate.

Considering you guys worked with Black Leg Sanji (Who is most likely to be the DD) and that Crocodile is your Ventriloquist (Or, he was the one you guys agreed would do the Vented claim. But I don't think so.)
(Or, Sanji is a Consort. Duh.)
It was a very good decision not to vent me for another day. I was quite shocked when I realized I wasn't (And that I had gotten the Witched feedback, too!) but I soon realized all the confusion it would cause.

Did you guys have Big Mom vented since the very beginning? Was I right about that?

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 01:47 PM
Interesting.
So Don Krieg is a pirate.

Considering you guys worked with Black Leg Sanji (Who is most likely to be the DD) and that Crocodile is your Ventriloquist (Or, he was the one you guys agreed would do the Vented claim. But I don't think so.)
(Or, Sanji is a Consort. Duh.)
It was a very good decision not to vent me for another day. I was quite shocked when I realized I wasn't (And that I had gotten the Witched feedback, too!) but I soon realized all the confusion it would cause.

Did you guys have Big Mom vented since the very beginning? Was I right about that?

Yes. We had her from the first night we could act until the moment she died. The real Big Mom only got to post on day 1. I find it amusing to see what you think is going on while I know the truth. :p

I guess that's the fun of hosting. I'll have to try it some time.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 02:07 PM
Oh and I'm an idiot, there cannot be a Consort. Derpmoment. There was a cleaning.


Do tell.

It's a bunch of stuff.

- At the beginning of Day 6, when I said Bonney might just be the one that was vented (When she wouldn't believe I wasn't and was accusing me to still be), Don quickly jumped on the occasion to try and convince us that she may just be Vented.
- He was pushing pretty hard to lynch Jimbei (The so-called Janitor. Is that even legit, or was he vented? He is who I believe to be vented on D6. I did call him out for it; And we didn't get anything from him today)
- This post.

Thank you, Bonney is being unrational. I can't comprehend why you want me lynched this much with all the evidence pointing to me being town..
Right after Ace said ''Our Escort blocked Don N1 while all CP9 actions went through''
He couldn't have been blocked since I was drugged on the first day. Thus he was in cahoots with you guys ;)
- This post.

I was reading because I voted after I woke up and went to school, when I came back the day ended already so I went through to see who could be scum.. I would be an useless citizen if I did nothing at all.
Trying to push that he is a ''Citizen'' too much. That's just me though.
- Just read posts 276 - 278.
He was pretty convinced I was Ventriloed. Like seriously. Then all he said was ''Oops, I missed that post!'' and changed his vote. Come on!
- His random ass code. We said many times to take words somewhat related to your character. To me at this point, that was suspicious. You should be taking those codes seriously.

- For Day 7, I thought it was funny how he was one of the first to jump on you for the lynch, right behind Marco. This was too easy; we all knew you were going to be the prime target for today. He was pretty quick to jump off the train to get on Gecko (?) just to vote again right after.

Or you know. Maybe I'm just paranoiac and he's just a Pirate. That's the shitty thing about it, with what you told me, that 1 of the people on my list is not CP9, I'm just mindfucked. I don't see who it could be but Don right now. But thaaaat CP9 vibe. And- Meh. You get my point.

- That's fucking CmG I'm sure. Fuck off CmG. ;w;

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 02:09 PM
Yes. We had her from the first night we could act until the moment she died. The real Big Mom only got to post on day 1. I find it amusing to see what you think is going on while I know the truth. :p

I guess that's the fun of hosting. I'll have to try it some time.

It really is! It has to be so much fun observing the night chats.

I actually never rolled a faction role in FMs so far. I have never had a night chat!
The only time I got close to (Since my COM was already revealed anyway!) was in Blazer's Experiment;
I was one of the two limiters and I died N1. Derp.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 02:09 PM
You have no idea how bummed out I was when I rerolled Citizen after starting as Journalist.
Although I really do like playing Citizen; I wanted a PR in this setup.

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 02:21 PM
It really is! It has to be so much fun observing the night chats.

I actually never rolled a faction role in FMs so far. I have never had a night chat!
The only time I got close to (Since my COM was already revealed anyway!) was in Blazer's Experiment;
I was one of the two limiters and I died N1. Derp.

I enjoy having a night chat. I think town is generally favored to win, and I love beating the odds. The more stacked against me it is, the more determined I am to win. I love challenges. That's why I was really glad I re-rolled witch. Most people believed this town was certain to win because of their huge numerical advantage. But we managed to make it this far. We almost had it in the bag, too. We can still win, but it is not assured, as it could have been. But no matter what happens now, we at least put up a fight.

I find it funny that for some reason I seem to survive longer when I'm scum... Then again, I haven't been town very many times.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 02:29 PM
I enjoy having a night chat. I think town is generally favored to win, and I love beating the odds. The more stacked against me it is, the more determined I am to win. I love challenges. That's why I was really glad I re-rolled witch. Most people believed this town was certain to win because of their huge numerical advantage. But we managed to make it this far. We almost had it in the bag, too. We can still win, but it is not assured, as it could have been. But no matter what happens now, we at least put up a fight.

I find it funny that for some reason I seem to survive longer when I'm scum... Then again, I haven't been town very many times.

The fact that you guys found the Pirate Captain on the fight night proooobably contributed to your success.

And by the way, to this day, I still don't understand the Rebel's move to just... out themselves like that. What in the world was that? It knew they would both get killed that day; to avoid the recruitment of more people.

I'll be back in a few hours! I want to know what you think of what I said 'bout Don. ;)

(Now that the game is over... May I know your COM? You know mine!)

And, unless the night actions are seriously fucked up, you guys should still have this in the bag. Nami/Marco/Luffy(?, If he is indeed the Doctor, which is most probable now since Nami confirmed she was saved) though we didn't hear about drugging... Gah!

Also, was I really witched on that day or was I drugged? ;)
I love how you guys played this out. This caused the biggest confusion ever. Who was Vented after that day anyway? Jimbei?

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 02:41 PM
The fact that you guys found the Pirate Captain on the fight night proooobably contributed to your success.

And by the way, to this day, I still don't understand the Rebel's move to just... out themselves like that. What in the world was that? It knew they would both get killed that day; to avoid the recruitment of more people.

I'll be back in a few hours! I want to know what you think of what I said 'bout Don. ;)

(Now that the game is over... May I know your COM? You know mine!)

And, unless the night actions are seriously fucked up, you guys should still have this in the bag. Nami/Marco/Luffy(?, If he is indeed the Doctor, which is most probable now since Nami confirmed she was saved) though we didn't hear about drugging... Gah!

Also, was I really witched on that day or was I drugged? ;)
I love how you guys played this out. This caused the biggest confusion ever. Who was Vented after that day anyway? Jimbei?

I can answer some, but not all of your questions. Well, that's not exactly true. I can answer all your questions, but I enjoy leaving you in the dark.

1. The rebels- Really didn't understand this myself. That's why I didn't believe it at first. But after they confirmed each other... We made the obvious choice and killed them. I thought at least one of them would be a recruit, we were only trying to prevent them from reaching 5 members and obtaining better night abilities. When they were both the original rebels, it was a very pleasant surprise.

2. Yeah, finding the Pirate Captain night one was instrumental. I could hardly believe it. I do wish we hadn't killed the first mate though. It took away their ability to find us/PRs, which we could have really used. But it did prevent them from killing us, which was nice. A shame the janitor didn't predict our kills very well.

3. You were really witched. When I claimed coroner, I was sure the blacksmith would CC me because by doing so, he would confirm that 1 of the 3 of us (me, blacksmith, or sanji) were scum. Since he didn't, I thought perhaps you were the blacksmith, so I tried witching you to see if we'd get an item. This turned out to be a mistake, obviously. I should have used my gun that night instead. But hindsight is 20/20, as they say.

4. As to who was/is vented, this is a question I will not answer. :p

FM Capone Bege
March 15th, 2013, 03:23 PM
Who was the Pirate Captain? (If you don't mind revealing, of course.)I hope he's one of the dumber players and shoots a CP9. Or if he shoots a Marine, Town can still win. I haven't been following the game anymore since HotS came out.

I agree with Caribou, I think CP9 has a real shot at winning, but the next day is the most critical for Town imo.

FM Basil Hawkins
March 15th, 2013, 03:44 PM
Lol. I'm not actually doctor :P
I just wanted to see who would believe me.

I think Bonney was vented because she didn't post an interview for 2 days.

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 04:05 PM
Only reason I outed myself was because Kidd was cornering me. He was showing impatience and said that he was waiting for the leader and scout to post their codes. I was one of the few active posters who hadn't been on yet, so I was going to get focus in CP9 night chat anyway even if I hadn't said anything. I tried to make a blatant claim and counter his arguments during the day to create as much distance between us as I still could, but then it all got ruined because he confirmed me rather than refuting my claim, which he should have.

I ranted at him in our night chat a bit and he kind of felt bad about the whole thing I think.. He just didn't understand my WIFOM at all, nor the importance of discretion it seems :/

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 04:05 PM
Who was the Pirate Captain? (If you don't mind revealing, of course.)I hope he's one of the dumber players and shoots a CP9. Or if he shoots a Marine, Town can still win. I haven't been following the game anymore since HotS came out.

I agree with Caribou, I think CP9 has a real shot at winning, but the next day is the most critical for Town imo.

Sorry, I think I'll keep it a secret for now. :)

He SHOULD know who is cp9 by now. And even if he doesn't, he knows who ISN'T cp9, so he should start by killing those people and leave the rest to us. But I guess we'll see. I left my cp9 the ability to confirm themselves to our allies, so we shouldn't see any more mistakes as with my lynch.

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 04:07 PM
Only reason I outed myself was because Kidd was cornering me. He was showing impatience and said that he was waiting for the leader and scout to post their codes. I was one of the few active posters who hadn't been on yet, so I was going to get focus in CP9 night chat anyway even if I hadn't said anything. I tried to make a blatant claim and counter his arguments during the day to create as much distance between us as I still could, but then it all got ruined because he confirmed me rather than refuting my claim, which he should have.

I ranted at him in our night chat a bit and he kind of felt bad about the whole thing I think.. He just didn't understand my WIFOM at all, nor the importance of discretion it seems :/

Yeah, if he hadn't confirmed you I wouldn't have believed the claim, at least not when I did. Then you guys might have lived longer. Sorry I had to kill you. Nothing personal. :p

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 04:11 PM
That was the idea.. claim something so stupid that it wasn't believable :p

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 04:13 PM
It was pretty hard to pick good recruits by the way. Most of the more thoughtful people who weren't involved in the mess of claims were scum.

I reckon most of the useless lurkers were citizens, which we clearly didn't want.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 04:17 PM
Lol. I'm not actually doctor :P
I just wanted to see who would believe me.

I think Bonney was vented because she didn't post an interview for 2 days.

Aw man.
This is exactly what I was going to write:


''You know, now that I think about it, Straw Hat Luffy could very well be the Drug Dealer.
If you think about it, He was ''Roleblocked'' two days straight after the EM charges, which he could have faked.
He also ''Attacked and Healed'' Nami last night, which was a pretty darn good guess.

To counter this, though, I doubt CP9 would've done this, as it made us extremely suspicious of him being the Neutral Killer for a while.
So I'd say I still believe his Doctor claim, with a 20% chance of Drug Dealer.''



But I guess he is pretty much confirmed now.
What were you, Basil, a Citizen?

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 04:18 PM
It was pretty hard to pick good recruits by the way. Most of the more thoughtful people who weren't involved in the mess of claims were scum.

I reckon most of the useless lurkers were citizens, which we clearly didn't want.

Caribou was secretly hoping he would get recruited. But after seeing how you guys played it out, I was all ''Poor Tony. Thank god I wasn't recruited.''

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 04:19 PM
So from what I understand, Mihawk, You witched me to a CP9 member?
Pretty nice move!

Gosh I totally wish I would've rolled CP9. Such a fun faction!

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 04:23 PM
Caribou was secretly hoping he would get recruited. But after seeing how you guys played it out, I was all ''Poor Tony. Thank god I wasn't recruited.''

Your charged claim didn't exactly make you the most desirable recruit. There was certainly a chance it'd be a wasted night action and a wasted slot towards the cap (which we were never going to reach anyway, but meh :p)

FM Hody Jones
March 15th, 2013, 04:24 PM
Hey Dracule... Why did you kill me, if I may ask?

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 04:26 PM
Your charged claim didn't exactly make you the most desirable recruit. There was certainly a chance it'd be a wasted night action and a wasted slot towards the cap (which we were never going to reach anyway, but meh :p)

I know. This is exactly what I was thinking;
''Welp, Being charged by the EM totally gimped my chances of being recruited.''

FM Donquixote Doflamingo
March 15th, 2013, 04:29 PM
I can answer some, but not all of your questions. Well, that's not exactly true. I can answer all your questions, but I enjoy leaving you in the dark.

1. The rebels- Really didn't understand this myself. That's why I didn't believe it at first. But after they confirmed each other... We made the obvious choice and killed them. I thought at least one of them would be a recruit, we were only trying to prevent them from reaching 5 members and obtaining better night abilities. When they were both the original rebels, it was a very pleasant surprise.

2. Yeah, finding the Pirate Captain night one was instrumental. I could hardly believe it. I do wish we hadn't killed the first mate though. It took away their ability to find us/PRs, which we could have really used. But it did prevent them from killing us, which was nice. A shame the janitor didn't predict our kills very well.

3. You were really witched. When I claimed coroner, I was sure the blacksmith would CC me because by doing so, he would confirm that 1 of the 3 of us (me, blacksmith, or sanji) were scum. Since he didn't, I thought perhaps you were the blacksmith, so I tried witching you to see if we'd get an item. This turned out to be a mistake, obviously. I should have used my gun that night instead. But hindsight is 20/20, as they say.

4. As to who was/is vented, this is a question I will not answer. :p

I was trying to play it off in a way that wouldn't reveal myself so I gave hints but sadly only you picked up on it and not our friend bonney. I got lucky you were Witch and didn't abuse my gun :p. Well played you had me fooled with the coroner claim

FM Donquixote Doflamingo
March 15th, 2013, 04:33 PM
Your charged claim didn't exactly make you the most desirable recruit. There was certainly a chance it'd be a wasted night action and a wasted slot towards the cap (which we were never going to reach anyway, but meh :p)

When I got this account my original goal was to join the rebels but then you guys outed yourselves....I was a replacement btw :V I acted like I wasn't because I didn't want people to guess my com

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 04:35 PM
The 2 early marine kills surprised me, but I found them entertaining from my perspective. Actually gave a bit of hope after that first day of fail :p

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 04:38 PM
Oh and by the way.. Gecko was 100% correct on me on day 1.

When I said I didn't have anyone to talk to at night, it was because Kidd didn't post on the first night. That was the first thing that annoyed me about my little faction, which had much more potential than we got out of it ;)

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 04:38 PM
Hey Dracule... Why did you kill me, if I may ask?

You seemed very smart and pro-town. Two things we couldn't allow to exist. hehe

Plus our ventriloquist claimed to know your COM and highly recommended your removal. So we agreed. We immediately regretted it when you turned out to be a marine. Sorry about that. Blame our vent. :D

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 04:40 PM
I know. This is exactly what I was thinking;
''Welp, Being charged by the EM totally gimped my chances of being recruited.''

Glad to see the fake charge wasn't a total bust. You having a night chat would've made you even more of a problem for us.

FM Hody Jones
March 15th, 2013, 04:47 PM
You seemed very smart and pro-town. Two things we couldn't allow to exist. hehe

Plus our ventriloquist claimed to know your COM and highly recommended your removal. So we agreed. We immediately regretted it when you turned out to be a marine. Sorry about that. Blame our vent. :D

Heh. I was trying to seem neutral to town, pirates, and rebels, but I wanted you guys to guess I was marine. :(

FM Donquixote Doflamingo
March 15th, 2013, 04:48 PM
Anyways to who I used my blacksmithing on -

n1 - Asspie player before me trys to give himself armor ???
n2 - asspie player doesn't do anything -_-
n3 - joins game skim over the chat and give eustass armor thinking a blacksmith in rebels would be unstoppable. In hindsight I should've read into the game more and realized they had both revealed.
n4 - gun to dracule
n5 - gun to bonny
n6 - secret :)

Dracule at what post dd you realize I was the blacksmith? The "I don't want to get shot because you make cp9 think im a pirate?" or a different one.

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 04:49 PM
I thought it was interesting that you firmly proclaimed your read on Urouge to be "marine" and nobody made mention of THAT after you died.

Only your reads on Caribou.

I didn't dare to mention it because I wanted to see Urouge lynched...

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 04:58 PM
Anyways to who I used my blacksmithing on -

n1 - Asspie player before me trys to give himself armor ???
n2 - asspie player doesn't do anything -_-
n3 - joins game skim over the chat and give eustass armor thinking a blacksmith in rebels would be unstoppable. In hindsight I should've read into the game more and realized they had both revealed.
n4 - gun to dracule
n5 - gun to bonny
n6 - secret :)

Dracule at what post dd you realize I was the blacksmith? The "I don't want to get shot because you make cp9 think im a pirate?" or a different one.

I forget which post. That one was definitely part of it, but I think there was another one that tipped me off as well. I thought it was hilarious that Bonney didn't believe I knew she had a gun, despite that I tried to tell her several times. I was hoping your trust for me would convince her to trust me, since her opinion on everyone basically changes every 5 seconds anyway.

By the way, it doesn't matter what you did night 6, because it doesn't go through since you died. We made sure to ask before killing you. :D

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 05:00 PM
I forget which post. That one was definitely part of it, but I think there was another one that tipped me off as well. I thought it was hilarious that Bonney didn't believe I knew she had a gun, despite that I tried to tell her several times. I was hoping your trust for me would convince her to trust me, since her opinion on everyone basically changes every 5 seconds anyway.

By the way, it doesn't matter what you did night 6, because it doesn't go through since you died. We made sure to ask before killing you. :D

Oh, and fun fact- even though your death prevents you from giving an item, doctor can still heal the night it dies. I tried pointing out this contradiction to Fragos, but he refused to acknowledge it.

FM Donquixote Doflamingo
March 15th, 2013, 05:09 PM
I forget which post. That one was definitely part of it, but I think there was another one that tipped me off as well. I thought it was hilarious that Bonney didn't believe I knew she had a gun, despite that I tried to tell her several times. I was hoping your trust for me would convince her to trust me, since her opinion on everyone basically changes every 5 seconds anyway.

By the way, it doesn't matter what you did night 6, because it doesn't go through since you died. We made sure to ask before killing you. :D
So that janitor had some great timing because I was almost 100% sure you were scum before then.
I guess the other CP9's are definitely Don Krieg and Sanji, but I am not quite sure about the last one. And yeah that contradiction is silly but w/e helps you guys.

Afk blacksmiths are the worst. If I'd given out two more armors, it would've people would've known that you or Sanji were lying about the power role claims. My first thought when you claimed coroner was that you were scum trying to bait me into ccing you, haha. Freaking janitor....

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 05:13 PM
Oh, and fun fact- even though your death prevents you from giving an item, doctor can still heal the night it dies. I tried pointing out this contradiction to Fragos, but he refused to acknowledge it.

But in the OoO, the player is ki-
Yeeeeah. :X


I'm glad though. I definitely like I'm improving my FM play. I don't have all that much experience still; but It's going great.

I have to say though. My biggest challenge was that I got in this FM and convinced my good friend (and work colleague) to enter this FM as well. He had always played SC2Mafia with me and had always lurked/followed the FMs I've played. Finally convinced him to make a forum account and get in the game; I vouched for him so he could get in, and Raptor/Fragos were nice enough to let him even if it was his first post. Of course, not only are we not cheaters, but we are also eternal rivals. Like, everything we do is a competition. We hid our identity and roles from each other, and we would never go to each other's desk if we saw he had the forums open. We also said we wouldn't reveal to each other unless both are dead. I don't think he found out who I was; He knows I'm not the RP kind of person. This is the whole reason why I started the third person thing. I honestly have no idea who he is, like, at all! I'm not sure he'd be a lurker though; If he had been modkilled he proooobably would've told me.

If you're dead and reading this; then, GG, Taekyon.
If not, Can't wait 'til the game ends so I know who you are and how you played this :)

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 05:14 PM
So that janitor had some great timing because I was almost 100% sure you were scum before then.
I guess the other CP9's are definitely Don Krieg and Sanji, but I am not quite sure about the last one. And yeah that contradiction is silly but w/e helps you guys.

Afk blacksmiths are the worst. If I'd given out two more armors, it would've people would've known that you or Sanji were lying about the power role claims. My first thought when you claimed coroner was that you were scum trying to bait me into ccing you, haha. Freaking janitor....

I figured either you would cc me and get either you, sanji, or myself lynched (and we'd know who you were), or you wouldn't and I'd live. Either way it seemed like the best plan.

The doctor thing actually doesn't help us, because it means tonight when we kill the doctor, the pirates still have to try to avoid his heal, meaning bonney is probably safe for tonight.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 05:15 PM
So that janitor had some great timing because I was almost 100% sure you were scum before then.
I guess the other CP9's are definitely Don Krieg and Sanji, but I am not quite sure about the last one. And yeah that contradiction is silly but w/e helps you guys.

Afk blacksmiths are the worst. If I'd given out two more armors, it would've people would've known that you or Sanji were lying about the power role claims. My first thought when you claimed coroner was that you were scum trying to bait me into ccing you, haha. Freaking janitor....

Crocodile.
He claimed to be the ''Vented person being the CP9's spokesman'' when I, myself, was vented.
It is 100% sure he is CP9 in my eyes
(Hence why I said Mihawk saying all 4 in my list are scum but one isn't CP9 is really fucking with me. Actually, I think he IS messing with me again and that I have all four right.)

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 05:16 PM
But in the OoO, the player is ki-
Yeeeeah. :X


I'm glad though. I definitely like I'm improving my FM play. I don't have all that much experience still; but It's going great.

I have to say though. My biggest challenge was that I got in this FM and convinced my good friend (and work colleague) to enter this FM as well. He had always played SC2Mafia with me and had always lurked/followed the FMs I've played. Finally convinced him to make a forum account and get in the game; I vouched for him so he could get in, and Raptor/Fragos were nice enough to let him even if it was his first post. Of course, not only are we not cheaters, but we are also eternal rivals. Like, everything we do is a competition. We hid our identity and roles from each other, and we would never go to each other's desk if we saw he had the forums open. We also said we wouldn't reveal to each other unless both are dead. I don't think he found out who I was; He knows I'm not the RP kind of person. This is the whole reason why I started the third person thing. I honestly have no idea who he is, like, at all! I'm not sure he'd be a lurker though; If he had been modkilled he proooobably would've told me.

If you're dead and reading this; then, GG, Taekyon.
If not, Can't wait 'til the game ends so I know who you are and how you played this :)

Haha, I'm the same way with a friend of mine on the forums. The difference is we both are usually pretty good at finding the other one. Luckily for me, he decided not to play this one, so I didn't have to put in the extra effort to hide from him.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 05:16 PM
I figured either you would cc me and get either you, sanji, or myself lynched (and we'd know who you were), or you wouldn't and I'd live. Either way it seemed like the best plan.

The doctor thing actually doesn't help us, because it means tonight when we kill the doctor, the pirates still have to try to avoid his heal, meaning bonney is probably safe for tonight.

Honestly, I doubt the doctor would be healing Bonney.
If I were in his place, I would be healing Marco.

It's 50/50 really. I don't think the pirates would hit Nami again.

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 05:17 PM
Crocodile.
He claimed to be the ''Vented person being the CP9's spokesman'' when I, myself, was vented.
It is 100% sure he is CP9 in my eyes
(Hence why I said Mihawk saying all 4 in my list are scum but one isn't CP9 is really fucking with me. Actually, I think he IS messing with me again and that I have all four right.)

I'm loving this confusion.

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 05:19 PM
Honestly, I doubt the doctor would be healing Bonney.
If I were in his place, I would be healing Marco.

It's 50/50 really. I don't think the pirates would hit Nami again.

They were stupid to try for her last night. We expected them to kill Luffy last night, otherwise we'd have done it.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 05:20 PM
Haha, I'm the same way with a friend of mine on the forums. The difference is we both are usually pretty good at finding the other one. Luckily for me, he decided not to play this one, so I didn't have to put in the extra effort to hide from him.


I don't think we really tried to find each other.
But I'll make sure to use different posting styles/other tactics so I can avoid him finding him.
Not that it would matter all that much; It's just so I could go ''Haha, you couldn't find who I was, I win.''
Yep.

I'm just glad our desks are like, on opposite sides of the studio.

I thought I would figure it out by his grammar mistakes. As coworkers, we both know how we type and stuff, and English isn't our first language. But sheesh, seems he put a lot of effort on this one; I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary except lazy typing from a lot of people.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 05:21 PM
I'm loving this confusion.

The WIFOM continues even when dead~

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 05:23 PM
They were stupid to try for her last night. We expected them to kill Luffy last night, otherwise we'd have done it.

Oh, so Luffy is confirmed Doctor now. I still kinda had small doubts he could've been CP9.
Knowing how well you guys are playing this out, I wouldn't have had any problems believing you guys could have schemed this up to make the gamble and make him look like a EM for a few days then confirming he isn't when people would claim the douses/other odd feedbacks from the DD.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 05:25 PM
Fun fact: This threat contains 69% of all posts made in Davey Jones' Locker.
I, for one, love those dead chats. They are really entertaining!

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 05:28 PM
They're hardly worth the time when nobody is there to discuss anything :p

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 05:34 PM
Oh also!
Hody, why did you want to know my COM in particular? c:

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 05:37 PM
Fun fact: This threat contains 69% of all posts made in Davey Jones' Locker.
I, for one, love those dead chats. They are really entertaining!

I was hoping I could revitalize the chat. I want to discuss the game, dammit. I don't understand how people lose interest when they die. Unless they're neutral and win alone, then I kind of understand. But otherwise, there's still fun to be had!

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 05:42 PM
I win with Tony.

GO TONY!

Would be hilarious if the CP9 forgets to kill him :p

FM Donquixote Doflamingo
March 15th, 2013, 05:47 PM
I win with Tony.

GO TONY!

Would be hilarious if the CP9 forgets to kill him :p
Haha he could try to win with Pirates :p

I'm honestly surprised the Marines decided to vote you out dracule, haha. They are putting a target on their own backs....

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 05:50 PM
Tony is better off staying neutral between town and pirates. Because the pirates will start killing off marines soon, I'd wager.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 05:52 PM
Tony is better off staying neutral between town and pirates. Because the pirates will start killing off marines soon, I'd wager.

They already tried last night. Dracule just confirmed that Luffy is Doctor and not Drug Dealer; his heal on Nami wasn't bullshit.

FM Donquixote Doflamingo
March 15th, 2013, 05:55 PM
Tony is better off staying neutral between town and pirates. Because the pirates will start killing off marines soon, I'd wager.
Yeah probably. Anyone want to guess who will get MVP? I'm thinking Dracule or possibly the Vent. Depending on if they win ofc :p

Caribou lol isn't it obvious that Sanji is the DD?

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 06:00 PM
I thought Mihawk did really well at seeming like a citizen early on. I was never convinced of his coroner claim though.

I think MVP depends on whatever was said by whom in CP9 chat.

Marines should definitely not get any MVP awards though. Sorry to say Hody, but your influence didn't last long enough and the rest didn't really impress me during the day.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 06:04 PM
Yeah probably. Anyone want to guess who will get MVP? I'm thinking Dracule or possibly the Vent. Depending on if they win ofc :p

Caribou lol isn't it obvious that Sanji is the DD?

Wasn't 100% sure. We can never assume it is. Especially not with this team of CP9s.
There was still a small chance ;)

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 06:07 PM
I thought Mihawk did really well at seeming like a citizen early on. I was never convinced of his coroner claim though.

I think MVP depends on whatever was said by whom in CP9 chat.

Marines should definitely not get any MVP awards though. Sorry to say Hody, but your influence didn't last long enough and the rest didn't really impress me during the day.

Neither does Rebels, nor Pirates, actually.
And I agree; it will depend on the CP9 night chat. We'll have to see who said what and who devised what plans. :)

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 06:17 PM
Rebels were a failure, yes.

I don't even think the pirates did that badly. If Urouge hadn't started to lurk after 2 days, they could've been in much better shape.

FM Hody Jones
March 15th, 2013, 06:18 PM
Oh also!
Hody, why did you want to know my COM in particular? c:

You were the most active player, other than Big Mom, and I felt like I knew who he was already.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 15th, 2013, 06:23 PM
Rebels were a failure, yes.

I don't even think the pirates did that badly. If Urouge hadn't started to lurk after 2 days, they could've been in much better shape.

Hey now. I'm not talking about people that did bad; I'm talking about MVPs.
We may be a bit early to talk about this though.
Who knows, the two remaining pirates could pull some crazy moves. :)

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 06:27 PM
Exactly. Everyone on the town's side is still going to be focused on cutting the CP9's numbers through lynching, which is why I wouldn't exclude them from pulling an upset or at least coming close.

FM Donquixote Doflamingo
March 15th, 2013, 06:51 PM
Exactly. Everyone on the town's side is still going to be focused on cutting the CP9's numbers through lynching, which is why I wouldn't exclude them from pulling an upset or at least coming close.

town doesn't have the numbers to do that though. Dracule wasted my guns very well, I was hoping you werent scum so if I die there would be the ohshit factor that scum never received any guns.

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 07:01 PM
As long as the pirates aim for the marines, they should be able to keep doing it.

Pretty dumb that a doctor would heal marines by the way, considering they can easily win with the biggest threat when it's convenient.

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 07:09 PM
Anyone want to guess who will get MVP? I'm thinking Dracule or possibly the Vent.

:love:


I thought Mihawk did really well at seeming like a citizen early on. I was never convinced of his coroner claim though.

I think MVP depends on whatever was said by whom in CP9 chat.

Marines should definitely not get any MVP awards though. Sorry to say Hody, but your influence didn't last long enough and the rest didn't really impress me during the day.

Yeah, I'm kind of regretting the decisions that led us to kill off the smart marines. I didn't know they were marines, of course, but... bleh. I'm not impressed with the remaining marines... Killing me off was the stupidest thing they could have done. Maybe if the smart marines had lived they could be leading the marines in the other direction... Oh well.

I appreciate all the support for MVP. If I must pick someone other than myself to get MVP, I would choose our vent. But if I can choose me, I choose me. lol

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 07:11 PM
On that note, I wonder if the awards will work like 16 (scum, town, and player's choice) or if there will just be one (and if so, if it will be player or host that chooses it). Care to comment, Fragos?

FM Basil Hawkins
March 15th, 2013, 07:33 PM
Aw man.
This is exactly what I was going to write:


''You know, now that I think about it, Straw Hat Luffy could very well be the Drug Dealer.
If you think about it, He was ''Roleblocked'' two days straight after the EM charges, which he could have faked.
He also ''Attacked and Healed'' Nami last night, which was a pretty darn good guess.

To counter this, though, I doubt CP9 would've done this, as it made us extremely suspicious of him being the Neutral Killer for a while.
So I'd say I still believe his Doctor claim, with a 20% chance of Drug Dealer.''



But I guess he is pretty much confirmed now.
What were you, Basil, a Citizen?

I was a "citizen wifom'ing doctor"

FM Whitebeard
March 15th, 2013, 07:40 PM
It worked pretty well, Basil.

You were one of the people on my radar for recruiting the night before you made that claim :p

FM Capone Bege
March 15th, 2013, 08:01 PM
1 mislynch and it's all over. I feel bad for Big Mom, not being able to play since Day 2 and then getting lynched by fellow town. Is there any reason you guys made him sound like Damus?

Ps
I totally called Mihawk was Witch

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 09:16 PM
1 mislynch and it's all over. I feel bad for Big Mom, not being able to play since Day 2 and then getting lynched by fellow town. Is there any reason you guys made him sound like Damus?

Ps
I totally called Mihawk was Witch

The reason was that we thought he was Damus. lol

Yeah, you did. That's why I killed you before people started taking you seriously. :p

FM Ferengi
March 15th, 2013, 09:24 PM
Big Mom was, in fact, Damus_Graves.

FM Ferengi
March 15th, 2013, 09:27 PM
If you're dead and reading this; then, GG, Taekyon.
If not, Can't wait 'til the game ends so I know who you are and how you played this :)

Taekyon is currently playing the game as FM Straw Hat Luffy.

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 15th, 2013, 09:32 PM
Since you're here, Fragos, care to tell us how MVP is being chosen? Player vote, by you, both, etc.?

FM Soul King Brook
March 16th, 2013, 01:45 AM
i'm really glad mihawk was lynched. best lynch i guess, because of the blacksmith gun he had and because the pirates won't be controlled anymore. damn you mihawk, i really hoped bonney still has her gun :(
finally a cp9 to talk to
mihawk, i don't think the marines WANTED to unvote you. you know what i thought? they checked you, saw you were cp9. so they wanted you lynched. but they also wanted cp9 on their side so they tried to look like they want to kill pirates and not cp9. they seem to side with town. (there's also one secret thing i didn't reveal about the jail chat n1 ;) )
so i'd really like to know why you killed me ;(
and how do you see fire fist as smart townie? i actually think he is pretty much always wrong. such as bonney. only that they never share a wrong opinion^^.
and why did you not vent caribou again? this could sacrifice crocodile, if the town believes caribou
and why did sanji not use the rb drug n4 and instead claimed witched? was there a better use for the drug?
how do you crack codes? with a program or you just try some obvious words?

the missing pirate kill could save the town. now that witch is dead, the pirates will try to kill marines and maybe even kill cp9 after they got a marine, this will definitely help town

and i wonder why noone said they got a blacksmith gun/vest. that would completely disprove the fake TPR claims. the blacksmith didn't even had to reveal
btw i'd never given mihawk a gun, he was so suspicious and not confirmed at all

caribou, i actually wasn't so sure either about you being vented d5 or d6, however i saw you as citi but i had tiny doubts. now they know that you're citi but they don't know that you were vented d5 and thus that crocodile is cp9. fire fist seems to know, i have to give him that one
and i also couldn't say at all who of dracule and kuma was the liar, so i trusted neither of them and wouldn't lynch any of them

if don is pirate and not cp9, you got so lucky he claimed rb n1, because otherwise we would totally think that the whole rb stuff was only a drug. because we thought the charge was drugged that day and thus the block must be real

cp9: 3
pirates: 2
marines: 2
neutral: 1
town: 7
rebels: 1



rolelist, i guess i got it now finally

FM Jewelry Bonney - Journalist - 100%
FM Straw Hat Luffy - Doctor - 99%
FM Fire Fist Ace - Citizen - 95% (Navy Admiral ns)
FM Gecko Moria - Citizen - 90% (Navy Admiral ns)
FM Jimbei - Citizen - 80% (Navy Admiral ns n2 because of bd, why does noone fucking get this, looks like noone even opens the old logs again + noone has good notes)
FM X Drake - Citizen - 60%
FM Buggy the Clown - Citizen - 60%
FM Tony Tony Chopper - Rebel - 100%
FM Cat Thief Nami - Navy Admiral - 100%
FM Marco the Phoenix - Enforcer - 100%
FM Black Leg Sanji - CP9 - 99% - most likely Infiltrator
FM Crocodile - CP9 - 99% - most likely Ventrioloquist
FM Don Krieg - CP9 - 80% (19% pirate) - most likely Drug Dealer
FM Blackbeard - Pirate - 60%
FM Red Haired Shanks - Pirate - 60%
FM Roronoa Zoro - Executioner - 100%


i feel like this is almost accurate, apart from some cp9 might be pirates and vice versa. as i think (and hope) it's a town win, MVP should imo be a townie. idk, boa seemed smart but died way too soon, however caribou played well too. basil's doctor claim was also nice but didn't help apart from saving himself from the lynch

but actually we failed so often in this game:
- not lynching franky (though this ended good for us, if we did lynch him someone else would have died n1)
- not lynching d2
- lynching vented big mom
- lynching the real coroner
- nico failed to be active
- so many lurkers and sheeps (especially TPRs) and almost noone seems to read previous day chats again
- afk blacksmith
- giving mihawk gun, kid vest
- bonney hinting that she has a gun
- not believing caribou when he said he was vented d5 and not d6
- believing mihawk and sanji

additionally the cp9 had luck finding the pirate captain n1. so many advantages of cp9 and still they can lose
i admit you and your team played well, but i was suspecting and accusing you since d4, before tony said you're no citizen

question, are blacksmith vests automatic or manual?

FM Dracule Mihawk
March 16th, 2013, 02:48 AM
i'm really glad mihawk was lynched. best lynch i guess, because of the blacksmith gun he had and because the pirates won't be controlled anymore. damn you mihawk, i really hoped bonney still has her gun :(
finally a cp9 to talk to
mihawk, i don't think the marines WANTED to unvote you. you know what i thought? they checked you, saw you were cp9. so they wanted you lynched. but they also wanted cp9 on their side so they tried to look like they want to kill pirates and not cp9. they seem to side with town. (there's also one secret thing i didn't reveal about the jail chat n1 ;) )
so i'd really like to know why you killed me ;(
and how do you see fire fist as smart townie? i actually think he is pretty much always wrong. such as bonney. only that they never share a wrong opinion^^.
and why did you not vent caribou again? this could sacrifice crocodile, if the town believes caribou
and why did sanji not use the rb drug n4 and instead claimed witched? was there a better use for the drug?
how do you crack codes? with a program or you just try some obvious words?

the missing pirate kill could save the town. now that witch is dead, the pirates will try to kill marines and maybe even kill cp9 after they got a marine, this will definitely help town

and i wonder why noone said they got a blacksmith gun/vest. that would completely disprove the fake TPR claims. the blacksmith didn't even had to reveal
btw i'd never given mihawk a gun, he was so suspicious and not confirmed at all

caribou, i actually wasn't so sure either about you being vented d5 or d6, however i saw you as citi but i had tiny doubts. now they know that you're citi but they don't know that you were vented d5 and thus that crocodile is cp9. fire fist seems to know, i have to give him that one
and i also couldn't say at all who of dracule and kuma was the liar, so i trusted neither of them and wouldn't lynch any of them

cp9: 3
pirates: 2
marines: 2
neutral: 1
town: 7
rebels: 1



rolelist, i guess i got it now finally

FM Jewelry Bonney - Journalist - 100%
FM Straw Hat Luffy - Doctor - 99%
FM Fire Fist Ace - Citizen - 95% (Navy Admiral ns)
FM Gecko Moria - Citizen - 90% (Navy Admiral ns)
FM Jimbei - Citizen - 80% (Navy Admiral ns n2 because of bd, why does noone fucking get this, looks like noone even opens the old logs again)
FM X Drake - Citizen - 60%
FM Buggy the Clown - Citizen - 60%
FM Tony Tony Chopper - Rebel - 100%
FM Cat Thief Nami - Navy Admiral - 100%
FM Marco the Phoenix - Enforcer - 100%
FM Black Leg Sanji - CP9 - 99% - most likely Infiltrator
FM Don Krieg - CP9 - 80% (19% pirate) - most likely Drug Dealer
FM Crocodile - CP9 - 99% - most likely Ventrioloquist
FM Blackbeard - Pirate - 60%
FM Red Haired Shanks - Pirate - 60%
FM Roronoa Zoro - Executioner - 100%


i feel like this is almost accurate, apart from some cp9 might be pirates and vice versa. as i think (and hope) it's a town win, MVP should imo be a townie. idk, boa seemed smart but died way too soon, however caribou played well too. basil's doctor claim was also nice but didn't help apart from saving himself from the lynch



question, are blacksmith vests automatic or manual?

Welcome to the party, bud. I think you're wrong about the marines not wanting to unvote me, but either way they're morons for not doing it. As soon as the doctor is down they will both die and lose their win for sure, whereas with us they had at least a 50% chance of winning.

They didn't check me, they checked our infiltrator. Nami basically said as much. She also didn't reveal him, further proof that they were willing to side with us. They were just too slow.

I killed you for two reasons.

1. You were one of the smartest town players alive.
2. Because town failed to lynch you. They decided that you were almost definitely town. Anyone who is proven town can not be allowed to live for long. The only reason Bonney made it so long is because we didn't kill the doctor. But once we knew there was no way you would be mislynched, it was clear that we should kill you.

As for the codes, the first one was our ventriloquist's doing. The vent found something that appeared plausible, so we went with it, and the town had no problems with it. We do not believe this was the solution Big Mom intended, but it got the job done.

As for Caribou, that was me. I used no program, just my mind. We had some practice cracking codes, as we were always looking for our next vent target. Our vent actually solved bonney's code on night 2, but we decided to keep venting Big Mom, not wishing to reveal to the town that we could crack codes just yet. When we started looking at Caribou as a possible vent target, I went through his old posts and noticed that almost all of his codes contained his own name, so I tried that first. And once I'd done that, I had the key as "tribuna" so I put in an 'L' to complete the key and came out with an x as the final letter, which seemed perfectly plausible as a filler letter. Caribou may correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this was actually the code he intended.

Some of your questions I will not answer because I am enjoying watching all of you struggle to piece things together. But I'll say this: a few people say they didn't trust me or found me scummy, but the thing is- no one did anything about it. This has become something of a trademark of my playstyle. And I find that it keeps me alive, oddly enough.

I think it interesting that you think mvp should be town. I haven't seen any town players that I find particularly deserving. There are a few town players who were right about one thing or another, but no one that had it all figured out and truly led the town. Plus, if marines learn from today's mistake and don't fuck up again, there shouldn't be a lynch tomorrow and the town should be eliminated within a few days.

FM Wet Haired Caribou
March 16th, 2013, 03:09 AM
Yep, that was it. Lesson learned though; I'll figure out some crazy codes like Buggy's next time.
And about the MVP thing; unless things changes; CP9 has it hands down.


Taekyon is currently playing the game as FM Straw Hat Luffy.

Wow.
I'm actually pretty impressed. He's not bad for his first FM!

FM Soul King Brook
March 16th, 2013, 04:00 AM
They didn't check me, they checked our infiltrator. Nami basically said as much.

where do you see this?




I killed you for two reasons.

you mean the infiltrator did ;)


1. You were one of the smartest town players alive.

i even said it was my first fm^^ so i couldn't be that good :D thx anyway^^


I used no program, just my mind.
that relieves me, because of that i always used difficult codes and if you had a programm you could crack also difficult codes. so it was indeed big mom's and caribou's own fault


I think it interesting that you think mvp should be town.
i think that town wins and MVP should be a winner. i agree that you had the better players but what do they help if they still lose?


I haven't seen any town players that I find particularly deserving. There are a few town players who were right about one thing or another, but no one that had it all figured out and truly led the town.
because that's not possible, first you cannot just 'lead' the town (yes i know because i tried^^) unless you're confirmed like bonney (though town often didn't follow her because she was not so smart) and you also cannot predict the whole scum teams, you can just say who is most likely to be scum. and that changes from day to day. so i think if you follow probabilities and logics and all clues you have, you are a good player, even if you're sometimes wrong



Plus, if marines learn from today's mistake and don't fuck up again, there shouldn't be a lynch tomorrow and the town should be eliminated within a few days.

town + marines + rebels will always outnumber marines + cp9, so why should marines not side with town, which would clearly be their choice if it's up to them. especially now that doctor healed the marines they'll tend to side with us. the only way they die is because of pirates but i really don't think that a marine will die tonight (because of doc and the risk for the pirates). so they can lynch a pirate the next day and then another one and survive. and even if one marine dies, the remaining one will even more side with the town, because he knows that cp9 will side with pirates



Some of your questions I will not answer because I am enjoying watching all of you struggle to piece things together.
hm i really wonder who got that drug n4, because noone claimed something like that

btw, did you notice i added something to my post while you were typing?


ah and first mate, if you already reveal which player a COM is, pls tell me as who RLVG played, i know him from SC2Mafia

FM Donquixote Doflamingo
March 16th, 2013, 04:01 AM
i'm really glad mihawk was lynched. best lynch i guess, because of the blacksmith gun he had and because the pirates won't be controlled anymore. damn you mihawk, i really hoped bonney still has her gun :(
finally a cp9 to talk to
mihawk, i don't think the marines WANTED to unvote you. you know what i thought? they checked you, saw you were cp9. so they wanted you lynched. but they also wanted cp9 on their side so they tried to look like they want to kill pirates and not cp9. they seem to side with town. (there's also one secret thing i didn't reveal about the jail chat n1 ;) )
so i'd really like to know why you killed me ;(
and how do you see fire fist as smart townie? i actually think he is pretty much always wrong. such as bonney. only that they never share a wrong opinion^^.
and why did you not vent caribou again? this could sacrifice crocodile, if the town believes caribou
and why did sanji not use the rb drug n4 and instead claimed witched? was there a better use for the drug?
how do you crack codes? with a program or you just try some obvious words?

the missing pirate kill could save the town. now that witch is dead, the pirates will try to kill marines and maybe even kill cp9 after they got a marine, this will definitely help town

and i wonder why noone said they got a blacksmith gun/vest. that would completely disprove the fake TPR claims. the blacksmith didn't even had to reveal
btw i'd never given mihawk a gun, he was so suspicious and not confirmed at all

caribou, i actually wasn't so sure either about you being vented d5 or d6, however i saw you as citi but i had tiny doubts. now they know that you're citi but they don't know that you were vented d5 and thus that crocodile is cp9. fire fist seems to know, i have to give him that one
and i also couldn't say at all who of dracule and kuma was the liar, so i trusted neither of them and wouldn't lynch any of them

if don is pirate and not cp9, you got so lucky he claimed rb n1, because otherwise we would totally think that the whole rb stuff was only a drug. because we thought the charge was drugged that day and thus the block must be real

cp9: 3
pirates: 2
marines: 2
neutral: 1
town: 7
rebels: 1



rolelist, i guess i got it now finally

FM Jewelry Bonney - Journalist - 100%
FM Straw Hat Luffy - Doctor - 99%
FM Fire Fist Ace - Citizen - 95% (Navy Admiral ns)
FM Gecko Moria - Citizen - 90% (Navy Admiral ns)
FM Jimbei - Citizen - 80% (Navy Admiral ns n2 because of bd, why does noone fucking get this, looks like noone even opens the old logs again + noone has good notes)
FM X Drake - Citizen - 60%
FM Buggy the Clown - Citizen - 60%
FM Tony Tony Chopper - Rebel - 100%
FM Cat Thief Nami - Navy Admiral - 100%
FM Marco the Phoenix - Enforcer - 100%
FM Black Leg Sanji - CP9 - 99% - most likely Infiltrator
FM Crocodile - CP9 - 99% - most likely Ventrioloquist
FM Don Krieg - CP9 - 80% (19% pirate) - most likely Drug Dealer
FM Blackbeard - Pirate - 60%
FM Red Haired Shanks - Pirate - 60%
FM Roronoa Zoro - Executioner - 100%


i feel like this is almost accurate, apart from some cp9 might be pirates and vice versa. as i think (and hope) it's a town win, MVP should imo be a townie. idk, boa seemed smart but died way too soon, however caribou played well too. basil's doctor claim was also nice but didn't help apart from saving himself from the lynch

but actually we failed so often in this game:
- not lynching franky (though this ended good for us, if we did lynch him someone else would have died n1)
- not lynching d2
- lynching vented big mom
- lynching the real coroner
- nico failed to be active
- so many lurkers and sheeps (especially TPRs) and almost noone seems to read previous day chats again
- afk blacksmith
- giving mihawk gun, kid vest
- bonney hinting that she has a gun
- not believing caribou when he said he was vented d5 and not d6
- believing mihawk and sanji

additionally the cp9 had luck finding the pirate captain n1. so many advantages of cp9 and still they can lose
i admit you and your team played well, but i was suspecting and accusing you since d4, before tony said you're no citizen

question, are blacksmith vests automatic or manual?

I gave it to him before he gave any scumtells. I should've given him armor, but my thought was that if cp9 had full control over night kills then I needed to get town some guns. I had to take a gamble and he seemed like the most pro-town at the time without being confirmed. Besides Bonney, who I was reluctant to give a gun because she kept changing her vote every 5 minutes. This is my first time ever getting a power role, If I had started the game as the Blacksmith I think town would've been in much better shape. More armor given out = easy to confirm. No one receiving anything until day 4, is just bad and would make me look like a DD revealing.

That lynch on Big Mom was bad, I should've known something was up when multiple people were thinking it was better to lynch her than Nami. I'm glad we didn't lynch Nami, but still it was a smart play to find the marines.

Also, sadly there are no vests out. But I think they are manual.

FM Donquixote Doflamingo
March 16th, 2013, 04:05 AM
Yep, that was it. Lesson learned though; I'll figure out some crazy codes like Buggy's next time.
And about the MVP thing; unless things changes; CP9 has it hands down.



Wow.
I'm actually pretty impressed. He's not bad for his first FM!

Haha. I just started making up random letters that I assumed would be hard to figure out because I guesed they wouldn't target me if I made it super difficult. People assuming I was a lurker let me get away with that.

FM Soul King Brook
March 16th, 2013, 04:26 AM
I gave it to him before he gave any scumtells.

hm i had accusations on him on exactly that day. on that day the escort claim wasn't confirmed at all, anyone could claim. so sanji was most likely scum. mihawk defended him pretty hard. so i said that mihawk is scum but unfortunately you didn't believe me :(

btw, just noticed jimbei claimed annoyed n2 which means basil was supposed to be. however, drugged was luffy. so zoro is jester after all?



town + marines + rebels will always outnumber pirates + cp9 corrected previous post

now i see that it was obvious that mihawk was no coroner, because he claimed citizen in the interview. bonney should've noticed it

FM Basil Hawkins
March 16th, 2013, 05:02 AM
I gave it to him before he gave any scumtells. I should've given him armor, but my thought was that if cp9 had full control over night kills then I needed to get town some guns. I had to take a gamble and he seemed like the most pro-town at the time without being confirmed. Besides Bonney, who I was reluctant to give a gun because she kept changing her vote every 5 minutes. This is my first time ever getting a power role, If I had started the game as the Blacksmith I think town would've been in much better shape. More armor given out = easy to confirm. No one receiving anything until day 4, is just bad and would make me look like a DD revealing.

That lynch on Big Mom was bad, I should've known something was up when multiple people were thinking it was better to lynch her than Nami. I'm glad we didn't lynch Nami, but still it was a smart play to find the marines.

Also, sadly there are no vests out. But I think they are manual.

You should have given me a gun/vest. :(
I think I really could have used it and I was pretty much confirmed. :(

FM Soul King Brook
March 16th, 2013, 05:05 AM
btw question to all, was i suspicious? if yes, why?