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FM Ferengi
March 10th, 2013, 11:53 PM
I have some news for you. Kaku told me that he will probably need a replacement, because he is currently travelling and his wallet was stolen. You can still assign night actions to Vertrilioquist, but that will simpley blackmail your target until your Ventriloquist returns back in the game. Still, I think that you have a good chance to win this game. Kalifa will tell you the details.

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 12:05 AM
I have some news for you. Kaku told me that he will probably need a replacement, because he is currently travelling and his wallet was stolen. You can still assign night actions to Vertrilioquist, but that will simpley blackmail your target until your Ventriloquist returns back in the game. Still, I think that you have a good chance to win this game. Kalifa will tell you the details.

Uh... I don't really know the details. So I'm not sure why I'm relaying them... But I guess if Kaku has to go, I'd like to request to take her spot if/when I'm lynched.

I would also like to request that I get to post with Basil's account and the one she controls during the day. Otherwise we are losing a key element of the ventriloquist's power (the day chat support and vote), plus Basil might get branded as a lurker and lynched like apoo, whereas otherwise she would be posting.

FM Ferengi
March 11th, 2013, 12:07 AM
Didn't you received the Night 4 feedback, Kalifa?

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 12:19 AM
Oh, that. Yeah, I was about to mention that. I thought "the details" meant "the details of kaku's replacement". I don't have those details. lol

Yeah, I got a bit of good news from last night. Before I announce it, I would like to say that I'm very sad Kaku is leaving us. She has been instrumental in our success up to this point and I wish she would stay beause I think with her we stand a really good chance of winning this game. Without her, I still think we can win, but it will be much more difficult. But no matter what happens now, we've played a good game. Good job, team.

Now, the good news: I am greatly pleased and extremely confused to report that I received a blacksmith gun last night.

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 12:21 AM
However, a bit of bad news- I must choose between using the gun or using my night action.

FM Ferengi
March 11th, 2013, 12:33 AM
I don't think that Kaku is leaving your team permanently. He is supposed to return "when he gets his wallet back".

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 12:54 AM
I don't think that Kaku is leaving your team permanently. He is supposed to return "when he gets his wallet back".

Uh... Wasn't the wallet stolen? Somehow I doubt the thieves will return it...

FM Ferengi
March 11th, 2013, 12:59 AM
But it was stolen during his travels. Imagine if your passport would be there...

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 01:22 AM
But it was stolen during his travels. Imagine if your passport would be there...

From what I understand of people who steal, they don't really give things back if they don't have to. They tend not to care so much about how much the rightful owner needs their possessions. But by all means ask Kaku for clarification.

FM Ferengi
March 11th, 2013, 01:32 AM
Maybe you should proceed with actual night? This is Kaku's problems, and you meanwhile should use your availible time to plan your night actions instead of discussing "how to get his wallet back".

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 02:19 AM
I'm waiting for the rest of my team to post. I think they're asleep right now.

So while I'm waiting, I'm trying to see if you will allow me full control of Kaku's accounts and abilities, because without them we will not stand much of a chance.

FM Ferengi
March 11th, 2013, 02:23 AM
Shouldn't just making him silence your target be enough? Because I am assuming that he will return back in the game by the time Day 6 begins.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 02:28 AM
Hey guys, I'm back.

Sucks for Kaku, but we will still make it I think. This game shouldn't go on for too long anyway.

It's kind of unlucky that we lynched the Arsonist, he would've helped to end the game faster.

If we could still use the Ventriloquist's action as intended (Kalifa offered to use it), then I have a code:
JIMBEI
Your password was 'jimbei'
Your key was 'zabcde'

This is your code 'JJOEIN'

We could take over Jimbei and cause a possible mislynch, who knows. Atleast we would have a target.

I'm not sure if you should use your gun Kalifa. It may seem scummy since you just received it. On the other hand that would net us an additional kill for the night (and the Blacksmith may expect you to use it), while taking the risk that Crocodile may kill one of us. I don't think X Drake will disguise as someone who has a code, I really hope he goes for one of the more lurky roles and not the ones who claimed a TPR.
Should we go for the high risk high reward play? I hope Crocodile still submits his night action every night in case we don't witch him once, because then we could do it.

I see the high risk as this:

Pirates need to target FM Basil Hawkins and we will target one of the following, to make Basil's job harder:
FM Wet Haired Caribou
FM Jewelry Bonney
FM Fire Fist Ace
FM Bartholomew Kuma

I assume this means they are going for Basil. This is bad. We don't know if they will send the Disguiser or the PC.

As for our kills, I suggest people who do not seem very suspicious in town's eyes. Buggy may be one of them, noone pursues Kuma, Shanks is probably a good target.. You know the deal.

Notes aren't as important at the moment because we know every alignment already, but Blackbeard and Kuma are useless, while Buggy is switching between useless and pro-town. Didn't bother to continue my notes on Cat Thief Nami because she claimed NA, but I think there could still be the possibility of Marco being NA and Nami being Enforcer, but that's a small possibility in my eyes.

Anyway, discuss.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 02:29 AM
Shouldn't just making him silence your target be enough? Because I am assuming that he will return back in the game by the time Day 6 begins.

If Kaku returns around that time, alright, that's no problem. But otherwise we would need that extra vote, or could atleast.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 02:30 AM
By the way, we probably intend on keeping Caribou alive, right? Just keep venting Caribou then, since he will reveal that he was vented last day and Crocodile will be lynched.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 02:34 AM
Sorry for the quadruple post, but I stumbled upon something when clicking the link to Basil's page. It leads me to this account:
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/9008
I don't get it.

FM Ferengi
March 11th, 2013, 02:45 AM
Pin Joker was the night account for now-dead First Mate. I have no idea how you dug it out, but this won't lead you anywhere.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 02:49 AM
Pin Joker was the night account for now-dead First Mate. I have no idea how you dug it out, but this won't lead you anywhere.

Oh alright, I guess whoever made that list on Night 1 picked the wrong link or something? No matter.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 05:36 AM
Okay, here is what I think we could/should do:
Witch the Disguiser because I think he is going to take over Basil. I don't think this would be good, considering we would lose 2 votes. We should put him on someone easy to fake/replace who has no code. I'm thinking of Shanks maybe.

Let the PC kill someone on his own, he posted a list of 4 people. He is going to pick one of them for sure.

We just send me to kill someone like.. Jimbei or something, maybe Blackbeard.

Silencing Caribou would be the obvious choice.

Drug deal.. just think of a good target. Some half-lurker maybe who will confirm the roleblock.

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 10:57 AM
Okay, here is what I think we could/should do:
Witch the Disguiser because I think he is going to take over Basil. I don't think this would be good, considering we would lose 2 votes. We should put him on someone easy to fake/replace who has no code. I'm thinking of Shanks maybe.

Let the PC kill someone on his own, he posted a list of 4 people. He is going to pick one of them for sure.

We just send me to kill someone like.. Jimbei or something, maybe Blackbeard.

Silencing Caribou would be the obvious choice.

Drug deal.. just think of a good target. Some half-lurker maybe who will confirm the roleblock.

I think you misunderstood Crocodile's plan. He was talking as the ventriloquist, so he reffered to us as the pirates. He wants us to kill Basil. So we simply will not do it.

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 11:00 AM
Shouldn't just making him silence your target be enough? Because I am assuming that he will return back in the game by the time Day 6 begins.

I think you should ask kaku if she intends to return. Even if she does intend to return, I think we should get full use of the ventriloquist's ability in her absence.

But I don't think she does. Please have her confirm.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 11:13 AM
I think you misunderstood Crocodile's plan. He was talking as the ventriloquist, so he reffered to us as the pirates. He wants us to kill Basil. So we simply will not do it.

I don't know, I mean, it could be both IMO, like he means us when talking about the Pirates and means themselves when saying "we".

Putting that aside and hoping for the best, what should our targets be? I don't think you should use your gun, like said, and I think you know already. We could kill Jimbei and Shanks/Blackbeard.. agree?

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 11:38 AM
If I'm not going to witch the captain tonight, the question is, what should I do instead? I think Caribou might be the blacksmith since he didn't counterclaim, unless blacksmith is just a total lurker. In any case, if I'm correct, and Caribou is the blacksmith I could witch him onto myself or one of you to give us another item. There's no guarantee it'll be a gun since he only has 3 of them (unless I can choose. Can I?). But the game is nearing the end, so perhaps he will feel that he must give out his guns before it's too late and give another tonight.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 11:46 AM
Alright, I rethought my plans.

I can absolutely see that Crocodile meant it like you said it Kalifa, it definitely makes more sense that way.

In this case I think you should use your gun. X Drake will probably disguise himself, PC will go for one on the list, we can send me to kill another town and we should use your gun to gain an additional kill. The gun kill is easily explained if we choose someone who seems like a scummy lurker.
Silencing/Venting Caribou is the obvious choise. Drug Dealer should just roleblock a (scummy) lurker.

I say we shoot Blackbeard and send me to kill.. Jimbei? Blackbeard is not paying attention and only pops in to ask about the game and Jimbei's kill doesn't need explanation since it's the CP9 kill.

Summing it up:

Night actions:
Witch use Gun on FM Blackbeard
Send Infiltrator to kill FM Jimbei
Ventriloquist onto FM Wet Haired Caribou
Drug Dealer roleblocks FM Bartholomew Kuma

Feel free to change as you see fit.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 11:47 AM
If I'm not going to witch the captain tonight, the question is, what should I do instead? I think Caribou might be the blacksmith since he didn't counterclaim, unless blacksmith is just a total lurker. In any case, if I'm correct, and Caribou is the blacksmith I could witch him onto myself or one of you to give us another item. There's no guarantee it'll be a gun since he only has 3 of them (unless I can choose. Can I?). But the game is nearing the end, so perhaps he will feel that he must give out his guns before it's too late and give another tonight.

If it's possible to witch like that then I would say that it's a good idea, maybe give our Drug Dealer a weapon. Other than that we should do what I suggested.

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 11:52 AM
In this case I think you should use your gun. X Drake will probably disguise himself, PC will go for one on the list, we can send me to kill another town and we should use your gun to gain an additional kill. The gun kill is easily explained if we choose someone who seems like a scummy lurker.

The only problem with using my gun is that it will likely result in the lynch of either me or Sanji.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 11:57 AM
The only problem with using my gun is that it will likely result in the lynch of either me or Sanji.

If we can get another gun, then it most likely won't because we will have nearly killed the whole town then or be able to. Considering the amount of kills we could have today we should be pretty safe from a lynch, everyone would need to be 100% convinced that lynching you or Sanji will gain them a chance. If we can witch Caribou to give us another gun, then we won't use yours today but instead use both of them the day after. Either way we are nearly in the safe zone. It all depends on the kills this night and probably the next.

I just wonder about the TPRs.. why has noone cc'd yet? The Doctor is not Basil, you are not the Coroner, Sanji is not the Escort.. It's getting dangerous if we kill the wrong TPRs, but depending on the numbers we should have no problem..

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 12:05 PM
As of now, if we think the Marines are siding with us and the Neutral will be with us it would be 12vs10 (assuming we have an extra vote with out Ventriloquist). If we kill 4 townpeople tonight we will have the majority of 8vs10. If Marines are going with Town then it will be 10vs8. A lynch on you for example would make it 10vs7 while we will still have 2 kills, making it 8vs7. Problem would be if Blacksmith has handed out some more weapons and this is the best case scenario. Since it is like this, we should try to get another gun for Sanji if possible, then strike next night.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 12:07 PM
As of now, if we think the Marines are siding with us and the Neutral will be with us it would be 12vs10 (assuming we have an extra vote with our Ventriloquist). If we kill 4 townpeople tonight we will have the majority of 8vs10. If Marines are going with Town then it will be 10vs8. A lynch on you for example would make it 10vs7 while we will still have 2 kills (the other not cotnrolled by us), making it 8vs7. Problem would be if Blacksmith has handed out some more weapons and these numbers represent the best case scenario for us. Since it is like this, we should try to get another gun for Sanji if possible, then strike next night.

Clarification.

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 12:22 PM
If we can get another gun, then it most likely won't because we will have nearly killed the whole town then or be able to. Considering the amount of kills we could have today we should be pretty safe from a lynch, everyone would need to be 100% convinced that lynching you or Sanji will gain them a chance. If we can witch Caribou to give us another gun, then we won't use yours today but instead use both of them the day after. Either way we are nearly in the safe zone. It all depends on the kills this night and probably the next.

I just wonder about the TPRs.. why has noone cc'd yet? The Doctor is not Basil, you are not the Coroner, Sanji is not the Escort.. It's getting dangerous if we kill the wrong TPRs, but depending on the numbers we should have no problem..

Basil's claim is the least of our worries. She can be easily explained by saying she is a citizen who hoped to take a bullet for the town. The doc didn't cc likely because he/she thought that's what Basil was doing.

The problem is Sanji and I. I'm guessing the blacksmith didn't cc because it's caribou, however it could be someone else who is just waiting to see what happens tonight. Because if I am truly coroner, then getting the blacksmith gun means sanji must be lying. So in the blacksmith's eyes, I should shoot sanji tonight. If I don't, the blacksmith (if he is smart) will realize that I'm lying about being coroner and will say so tomorrow. The only reason I can think of that the other pr didn't cc is because it is a mayor who knows that revealing will give us the ability to vent him and control the day votes, though there is still a chance it's a veteran who's hoping to catch us with an alert. I'm hoping it's a mayor and that we can get him to reveal. Even though it will practically guarantee the lynch of me or sanji (probably me) it will give us (after my lynch) a total of 6 votes, plus the pirates, for a total of 8 votes, which will be enough that we will control the lynch on day 7, netting us the win.

By the way, if we do manage to pull this off, when it comes time to choose between the pirates and the marines, I would say we should choose the pirates, because they have been nothing but helpful whereas the marines have been hunting us lately. But if we wish to choose a more "fair" method, we can have them vote zoro (who I'm convinced is a jester) and see who dies from his kill and declare the faction with the most surviving members the winner.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 12:28 PM
Basil's claim is the least of our worries. She can be easily explained by saying she is a citizen who hoped to take a bullet for the town. The doc didn't cc likely because he/she thought that's what Basil was doing.

The problem is Sanji and I. I'm guessing the blacksmith didn't cc because it's caribou, however it could be someone else who is just waiting to see what happens tonight. Because if I am truly coroner, then getting the blacksmith gun means sanji must be lying. So in the blacksmith's eyes, I should shoot sanji tonight. If I don't, the blacksmith (if he is smart) will realize that I'm lying about being coroner and will say so tomorrow. The only reason I can think of that the other pr didn't cc is because it is a mayor who knows that revealing will give us the ability to vent him and control the day votes, though there is still a chance it's a veteran who's hoping to catch us with an alert. I'm hoping it's a mayor and that we can get him to reveal. Even though it will practically guarantee the lynch of me or sanji (probably me) it will give us (after my lynch) a total of 6 votes, plus the pirates, for a total of 8 votes, which will be enough that we will control the lynch on day 7, netting us the win.

By the way, if we do manage to pull this off, when it comes time to choose between the pirates and the marines, I would say we should choose the pirates, because they have been nothing but helpful whereas the marines have been hunting us lately. But if we wish to choose a more "fair" method, we can have them vote zoro (who I'm convinced is a jester) and see who dies from his kill and declare the faction with the most surviving members the winner.

Oh shit, I didn't think of that reasoning. Prime example of how to see that you are more experienced than me. Definitely a problem here.. High risk play would be using your gun and hope that the Blacksmith is our silenced Caribou. Nobody would know who has the gun, but one of you would still get lynched. Probably you though because Sanji is more town in the eyes of most people.. hmm. I hope First Mate can tell us clearly about Blacksmith mechanics.

I also thought about giving the Pirates the win because of the same reason, but I like your Jester idea. We will see how it goes.

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 12:48 PM
Oh shit, I didn't think of that reasoning. Prime example of how to see that you are more experienced than me. Definitely a problem here.. High risk play would be using your gun and hope that the Blacksmith is our silenced Caribou. Nobody would know who has the gun, but one of you would still get lynched. Probably you though because Sanji is more town in the eyes of most people.. hmm. I hope First Mate can tell us clearly about Blacksmith mechanics.

I also thought about giving the Pirates the win because of the same reason, but I like your Jester idea. We will see how it goes.

Really, I want to choose the pirates, but I also want zoro to win. I'm generous that way. Maybe what we can do is present the jester option, then choose the pirates anyway. In any case, we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves. Our victory is not yet certain.

I think I should witch caribou onto sanji and hope he gets a gun. By the way, just in case we go with this plan- Do NOT under ANY circumstances claim the gun. The town cannot know there is a blacksmith until we have sufficient control of the day chat.

By the way, the reason I'm giving it to sanji, in case you were wondering, is because you already have a kill for your night action, and the night action must be abandoned in order to use the item, so you could not really make use of it since you would have to give up the kill you already have. The issue is I think me or sanji will almost certainly be lynched tomorrow, and I don't want to lose one of our guns. I could witch him onto myself if I could use both guns in one night. Not sure if I can use both guns, though. If I can, I could do that and (if necessary) sell out sanji tomorrow. If he's lynched it will get me town points (though I hopefully won't need them) and we'll have 2 guns and be poised to win. Though I seem more likely to be lynched, I could probably swing it around on sanji by pointing out that there were no extra feedback claims when he blocked, meaning either he's the dd or the person he blocked is. He can accuse someone (anyone but bonney, one of us, or the pirates) of being the person he blocked (making them DD) and get them mislynched. This will be good because it will either a) get us a mislynch on a townie meaning we likely win or b) get a pr (hopefully mayor) to reveal in order to lynch sanji. if the blacksmith reveals it's not optimal, but as long as i'm not lynched we can get another gun out of him.

I'll try asking these questions again since he still hasn't answered:

If I witch the blacksmith, can I choose which item he gives out?
If one person has multiple blacksmith guns, can they shoot them both on the same night?
Can killing roles use guns and their factional kill on the same night?

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 12:57 PM
Yeah, I know that giving the gun to me would be pointless since I am the only role who has no special ability so I can always be sent to kill without a problem.

I like your plan, it would net us the needed kills and town points (I hope the kills are enough though). Let's see what First Mate says.

FM Blueno
March 11th, 2013, 01:30 PM
I do like Kalifa's plan, yet we need to figure out what he was doing before you got the gun. It could possibly be Shanks since he was replaced. Yet I doubt anyone would claim to have recieved anything, yet yesterday could have been a good time since all PRs were revealed and that could have shown that someone was lying.

If I rb someone and accuse them as the DD, it could quite easily work to our advantage, unless Zoro keeps faking Exec and annoys someone.

FM Blueno
March 11th, 2013, 01:48 PM
Also, I thought the Disguiser didn't have his own kill, and had to piggyback off another. That means if he kills someone, then he couldn't disguise as them since he already did his action for the night, which was killing them, and we're preventing him from taking over because he doesn't know who to target. Just a thought, it's probably a fail.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 02:06 PM
Also, I thought the Disguiser didn't have his own kill, and had to piggyback off another. That means if he kills someone, then he couldn't disguise as them since he already did his action for the night, which was killing them, and we're preventing him from taking over because he doesn't know who to target. Just a thought, it's probably a fail.

I'm sure he has his own kill since it's always been like that.

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 02:35 PM
Also, I thought the Disguiser didn't have his own kill, and had to piggyback off another. That means if he kills someone, then he couldn't disguise as them since he already did his action for the night, which was killing them, and we're preventing him from taking over because he doesn't know who to target. Just a thought, it's probably a fail.

The disguiser uses the pirates' factional kill. So they will still only have one kill tonight, but this time the disguiser will take over the account instead of just having the person die normally. I'm trying to figure out who he'll take.

It would be hilarious if he took caribou, since that would mean he's vented tomorrow. But he might take fire fist ace or bonney. Bonney is risky since she's the most likely to have doc on her, but would pay off really well. I think Ace is their most likely target though, assuming the disguiser is willing to post a lot.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 02:56 PM
The disguiser uses the pirates' factional kill. So they will still only have one kill tonight, but this time the disguiser will take over the account instead of just having the person die normally. I'm trying to figure out who he'll take.

It would be hilarious if he took caribou, since that would mean he's vented tomorrow. But he might take fire fist ace or bonney. Bonney is risky since she's the most likely to have doc on her, but would pay off really well. I think Ace is their most likely target though, assuming the disguiser is willing to post a lot.
Additionally to taking Caribou being hilarious, it would also be stupid because there was suspicion on him. I agree with him taking Ace most likely. Taking Kuma is unlikely, although he could take him to lie low.. who knows.

FM Rob Lucci
March 11th, 2013, 04:14 PM
The disguiser uses the pirates' factional kill. So they will still only have one kill tonight, but this time the disguiser will take over the account instead of just having the person die normally. I'm trying to figure out who he'll take.
Just for clarification, if we control Crocodile it won't do anything if the Disguiser goes for the kill?

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 04:43 PM
Just for clarification, if we control Crocodile it won't do anything if the Disguiser goes for the kill?

Pretty sure this is the case.

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 05:08 PM
By the way, I don't think we should Kill Jimbei. I don't see him as much of a threat. I want to kill Soul King Brook the most, since the town has basically decided that he can't be scum. The goal here being: Kill people that the town knows they can trust. This increases the likelihood that they will mislynch.

We haven't bothered with Bonney because she'll probably be healed. And we will continue to leave her alone until we have killed the doctor. The good news is she isn't very smart, so leaving her alive to lead the town has actually worked out pretty well. The only other person who is somewhat confirmed is Ace, but hopefully he'll be disguised for tomorrow.

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 08:25 PM
Ok, just so we're clear:

Updated Night actions:
Infiltrator Kill FM Soul King Brook
Witch FM Wet Haired Caribou to give blacksmith gun to Black Leg Sanji
Ventriloquist target FM Wet Haired Caribou
Drug Dealer give fake roleblock to FM Bartholomew Kuma

The plan for tomorrow:
Black Leg Sanji- Allow everyone to claim feedback. Since both the bus driver and arsonist are dead, there should just be your roleblock and maybe an annoy from Zoro. Possibly a healing, though we're hoping not. Once that's done, point out that all the feedback is accounted for and that there doesn't seem to be any from the drug dealer. Since kuma was roleblocked, it's probably kuma. Hopefully we'll lynch him. That's the best case scenario. Worst case is I'm lynched.

But really any non-cp9/pirate being lynched tomorrow is all we need. There are 22 players left alive. 4 are us. 2 are pirates. 2 marines. 1 rebel. Which means 13 town. If we get a mislynch on town tomorrow, that's 12 town/21 players. Let's say we're wrong about Caribou being blacksmith and we kill 2 people tomorrow night (1 + my gun), plus the pirate's kill. That leaves 18 players, only 9 of which are town. If we take into account our vent, that gives them only 8 votes during the day. So they'll need the marines to side with them AND they'll have to vote unanimously.

So we are potentially 2 day/night cycles away from victory if things go relatively smoothly. Tomorrow is going to be a huge hurtle though, since I think I'm really likely to be lynched. Hopefully the disguiser will succeed tonight and they'll keep me alive in order to check the cleaned role.

In case of emergency:
If it looks like I might be lynched, I may deflect onto Sanji to save myself. I don't want either of us to be lynched, but if it has to be one of us, I think it should be you. Nothing personal, but if I die before I fire this gun, we lose an extra kill. I'm hoping it won't come to this, but I'm putting it here now so you won't be totally blind-sided and think I've started game-throwing. haha.

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 08:28 PM
If I witch the blacksmith, can I choose which item he gives out?
If one person has multiple blacksmith guns, can they shoot them both on the same night?
Can killing roles use guns and their factional kill on the same night?

HOST PLEASE ANSWER BEFORE NIGHT ENDS.

Also, can I take over Basil Hawkins and Wet Haired Caribou tomorrow since Basil/Kaku will be absent?

FM Ferengi
March 11th, 2013, 09:43 PM
If I witch the blacksmith, can I choose which item he gives out?
If one person has multiple blacksmith guns, can they shoot them both on the same night?
Can killing roles use guns and their factional kill on the same night?

No, you will only give out the item that blacksmith chose to send out to his target. You can only fire one shot per night. You CAN use a gun and a factional kill, provided that each kill will be made by different person.

I promise that Kalifa can take over Basil Hawkins once Night 5 ends. Trust me. 8)

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 09:52 PM
You CAN use a gun and a factional kill, provided that each kill will be made by different person.[/SIZE]8)

Ok, so the infiltrator can't use a gun and kill on his own in the same night.


I promise that Kalifa can take over Basil Hawkins once Night 5 ends. Trust me. 8)

The way you worded this worries me... Am...Am I being attacked tonight?

FM Kalifa
March 11th, 2013, 09:56 PM
The way you worded this worries me... Am...Am I being attacked tonight?

Or Caribou is the veteran... Hmm... This is a bit unsettling...

FM Kalifa
March 12th, 2013, 03:51 AM
Oh. Hey. Just got a brilliant idea. Hopefully you guys will read this before the day starts.

A simple code to confirm caribou is the blacksmith:

Sanji please read before posting in day 6!


if you receive a gun start your first post of the day with the letter 'g'. Easiest way to do this would be to say "good morning" , "good afternoon", et.c

If you receive a vest, start with the letter 'v'. A little bit more difficult to use casually, but I'm thinking you could just say "very interesting start to the day" or "very interesting night" or simply quote someone and start with "very interesting". You don't have to use the word very, it's just the best I can come up with at 6am (I should really go to sleep).

If you do not receive an item, start your first post with an 'n' (for nothing). Examples include "not a bad night" or simply respond to someone you disagree with "No...<insert argument/reasoning>". You get the idea.

If you see this before night ends, please post here so I know you saw this.

FM Rob Lucci
March 12th, 2013, 05:01 AM
I am okay with the night actions. Good point for killing Soul King since town found out that he couldn't have been CP9.

If Nami decided to check one of us and says that we are the CP9, for example me, I will argue that she has to be working with CP9 yadda yadda, you know the deal. I will also refer to my soft claim on Day 2, and if they think that I am the Infiltrator because of that, well shit. It doesn't matter much if Sanji doesn't get a gun since he can just use the factional kill then, but losing a vote sucks.

FM Blueno
March 12th, 2013, 06:48 AM
Oh. Hey. Just got a brilliant idea. Hopefully you guys will read this before the day starts.

A simple code to confirm caribou is the blacksmith:

Sanji please read before posting in day 6!


if you receive a gun start your first post of the day with the letter 'g'. Easiest way to do this would be to say "good morning" , "good afternoon", et.c

If you receive a vest, start with the letter 'v'. A little bit more difficult to use casually, but I'm thinking you could just say "very interesting start to the day" or "very interesting night" or simply quote someone and start with "very interesting". You don't have to use the word very, it's just the best I can come up with at 6am (I should really go to sleep).

If you do not receive an item, start your first post with an 'n' (for nothing). Examples include "not a bad night" or simply respond to someone you disagree with "No...<insert argument/reasoning>". You get the idea.

If you see this before night ends, please post here so I know you saw this.

I have seen it and I will do it.