Day 5: Broken Wheels

[FM Ferengi]

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Two new victims were found last night. It appears the both of then were island's residents. The clouds are now darkening over this island...

Capone Bege has been killed by Pirates. His role was Citizen.
Sogeking was marked for death by CP9. His role was Bus Driver.

The newspaper has posted another interesting article:


I claim Citizen.

How is everyone doing? This is actually a great way to confirm Zoro as the Student or Bonney as the journalist.

Bonney must name who wrote this article! If she can't, then Zoro must. If neither of the can name who wrote this article, I'm going to be sad(and confused)...

I can't believe you guys lynched Big Mom, who was obviously Vented.... It is seriously depressing to see such headstrong sheeping in a FM like this.

Since there is no Eletromaniac (No charged claims besides the Drug and the Vented player) there are a lot of neutral roles that could be true.

Most likely: Student
I think Student is most likely, and the student HAS already claimed, being Zoro. However, if he cannot name who wrote this article, then I would seriously doubt he is the Student, and would rule him as a:

Executioner
Also likely. It must suck to have your target be a journalist. However, what has Zoro done that isn't discrediting Bonney? We have spent far too long being distracted by Zoro VS Bonney. However, it is possible that Zoro is a:

Jester
The only other option, the given jester. There was a most likely drugged annoyed feedback, but still.

I'll be surprised if the other neutral is anything but this. As you have also noticed, I labeled Zoro as the neutral... its because I am getting neutral reads from him and he claimed Student.

On another note, FM Wet Haired Carabou is CLEARED from being CP9, because he was Drugged N1/D2 (I always get confused on Night names), whoever was bussed with FM Jimbel on N2/D3 is MOST LIKELY cleared from being CP9 cause of Jester drugs.

I'm running out of time cause I suck! AHHHHHHHHHH

Everyone needs to start realizing that we are going to kill ourselves if we keep focusing on the little things, and not the bigger picture.

I wonder if I can get a video inside the article?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6G6CZT7h4k


List of players:

FM Bartholomew Kuma
FM Basil Hawkins
FM Black Leg Sanji
FM Blackbeard
FM Buggy the Clown
FM Cat Thief Nami
FM Crocodile
FM Don Krieg
FM Donquixote Doflamingo
FM Dracule Mihawk
FM Fire Fist Ace
FM Gecko Moria
FM Jewelry Bonney
FM Jimbei
FM Marco the Phoenix
FM Red Haired Shanks
FM Roronoa Zoro
FM Scratchmen Apoo
FM Soul King Brook
FM Straw Hat Luffy
FM Tony Tony Chopper
FM Wet Haired Caribou
FM X Drake

Graveyard:

FM Hody Jones (Detective) - Killed by CP9
FM Cyborg Franky (First Mate) - Killed by... Pirates?
FM Foxy the Silver Fox (Jailor) - Killed by Pirates
FM Trafalgar Law (Citizen) - Executed by Jailor
FM Boa Hancock (Citizen) - Killed by CP9
FM Nico Robin (Citizen) - Committed suicide
FM Urouge (Framer) - Lynched by the majority
FM Eustass Kidd (Rebel Leader) - Killed by Pirates
FM Whitebeard (Rebel Scout) - Killed by CP9
FM Big Mom (Citizen) - Lynched by the majority
FM Capone Bege (Citizen) - Killed by Pirates
FM Sogeking (Bus Driver) - Killed by CP9

Day 5 has began, you can now continue your discussion. You need a majority of 12 players to lynch a person. If no majority occurs during 36 hours, the day ends without a lynch. Once again, I remind you to use vote tags. Day 5 will end at this time: 11 March 2013 10.00 AM MSK (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=11+March+2013+10.00+AM+MSK)

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[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Capone is DEAD! YESSSSS!!!!

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Nami confirmed that he was a marine with Big mom Cat Thief Nami

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Fm Cat Thief Nami

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Don't claim if you got blocked. Let Black Leg Sanji be the first one to claim who he blocked.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

On another note, FM Wet Haired Carabou is CLEARED from being CP9, because he was Drugged N1/D2 (I always get confused on Night names), whoever was bussed with FM Jimbel on N2/D3 is MOST LIKELY cleared from being CP9 cause of Jester drugs.

Caribou is almost definitely CP9. Big Mom must have been drugged so unless the CP9 has 2 drug dealers or there's an EM who stoped charging after n1, Caribou lied about being charged.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Caribou is almost definitely CP9. Big Mom must have been drugged so unless the CP9 has 2 drug dealers or there's an EM who stoped charging after n1, Caribou lied about being charged.

I think big mom has been controlled since day 2

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

the ventro used big mom to fake claim charged during day 2 and the drug dealer drugged caribou.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

I think big mom has been controlled since day 2
Didn't Big Mom pass his code check for day 2?

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Didn't Big Mom pass his code check for day 2?

No idea, he used some weird placeholder system. Did he even explain how it worked?

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

No idea, he used some weird placeholder system. Did he even explain how it worked?
I haven't been paying much attention to codes. Some people said Big Mom had passed all of his codes and couldn't be vented but that turned out not to be true. I don't know which one he failed or if the CP9 figured out his code.

We should be aiming for the vent or witch today so I think we should make full use of the day before voting up Nami who is confirmed but may not be the witch or vent.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

I haven't been paying much attention to codes. Some people said Big Mom had passed all of his codes and couldn't be vented but that turned out not to be true. I don't know which one he failed or if the CP9 figured out his code.

We should be aiming for the vent or witch today so I think we should make full use of the day before voting up Nami who is confirmed but may not be the witch or vent.

Agreed, Red haired shanks got 3 posts and haven't been modkilled. i find that suspicious.

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

Nami confirmed that he was a marine with Big mom Cat Thief Nami

I'd say we ignore Nami for now, it's probably a sheep Citizen.

As for you Fist Ace, you're not a pirate.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

On Day 1 Big Mom posted:


I suppose I need a code then, its not as if any disguise could truly mimick my activity levels and behavior in any sense of realism unless they are creed, so here it is:

1 43 2 0987

On Day 2:


Proof I have not been disguised/ventrio’d:

Solution: Kali
{Kali is a Hindu goddess whose name comes from kala which means black, time, death, lord of death.}

k a l i
11 1 12 9
{subtract 10}
1 -9 2 -1
{add modulo’s to the negative numbers and count to the value of 42, the answer to the ultimate question}
1{1} 43{2} 2{1} 987{38}
{Placeholder 0}
1 43 2 0987
He seemed most different on day 4 to me and was very consistent for days 1-3 but I wouldn't rule out the possibility he was vented back on day 2.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

I'd say we ignore Nami for now, it's probably a sheep Citizen.

As for you Fist Ace, you're not a pirate.

I doubt he is a citizen. Big mom told uss that nami could confirm him befeore nami even did it. Obviously they had it planned.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

FM Wet Haired Caribou
What do you think about Big Mom being vented on day 2?

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

And you are a marine so your best interest is not to lynch Cp9 members.

[FM Soul King Brook]

nami is definitely the vent (we knew that one of big mom and him is vented, the other the vent). i'm waiting for sanji to tell us who was blocked (whoever it was, don't tell). and for marco to tell us his result
so now someone else is vented. bonney pls do your code
FM Cat Thief Nami (don't lynch too early though)

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

I'd say we ignore Nami for now, it's probably a sheep Citizen.

As for you Fist Ace, you're not a pirate.

So Ace is a CP9?


And you are a marine so your best interest is not to lynch Cp9 members.

Are you telling Marco not to lynch you or your team mates?

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

I'd say we ignore Nami for now, it's probably a sheep Citizen.

As for you Fist Ace, you're not a pirate.


nami is definitely the vent (we knew that one of big mom and him is vented, the other the vent). i'm waiting for sanji to tell us who was blocked (whoever it was, don't tell). and for marco to tell us his result
so now someone else is vented. bonney pls do your code
FM Cat Thief Nami (don't lynch too early though)
Why is Nami definitely the vent?

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

nami is definitely the vent (we knew that one of big mom and him is vented, the other the vent). i'm waiting for sanji to tell us who was blocked (whoever it was, don't tell). and for marco to tell us his result
so now someone else is vented. bonney pls do your code
FM Cat Thief Nami (don't lynch too early though)

I don't think marco can be trusted. He pushed hard for big moms lynch, he probably knew that big mom was not a cp9. Becouse why would a marine try to lynch cp9? thats just stupid.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

So Ace is a CP9?



Are you telling Marco not to lynch you or your team mates?

Yesterday i was a pirate and now im a cp9?

[FM Straw Hat Luffy]

Hey guys... not going well for the town...
Regarding the fact that Marco want us to ignore Nami is strange... after what happened between her and Big Mom...
Nami could be the vent and we can't let her live if she is.
I approve that Shank is really suspicious, appearing from nowhere sometime, lurking a lot, not modkilled...
I won't vote right now, I'll wait to see what other people have to say about the current situation.

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

I'm publishing a few questions given by the Navy :



If escort, what's the missing pirate role?

Capone, why do you want the Navy to reveal?

Town, who do you want us to "investigate"? Give a reason.

Who do you think is a Neutral Killer?

[FM Soul King Brook]

because of his cooperation on the marine claim with big mom

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

I'm publishing a few questions given by the Navy :



If escort, what's the missing pirate role?

Capone, why do you want the Navy to reveal?

Town, who do you want us to "investigate"? Give a reason.

Who do you think is a Neutral Killer?

My good friend capone sadly passed away this night.

[FM Soul King Brook]

(last post refers to tony)

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

the ventro used big mom to fake claim charged during day 2 and the drug dealer drugged caribou.
Doesn't stop Caribou from also being CP9. We haven't recieved any claims that don't make sense. So unless their drug dealer was sending out bussed, then it could be that Caribou is CP9.

Everyone needs to post their code. Ventro will have picked a new target for today. I didn't use Bonneys compile online thing. Here it is though -

carrottop
3 1 18 18 15 20 20 15 16
badbadbad
214214214
ebvtpxvpt
5 2 22 20 16 24 22 16 20

Thinking about why a vent would claim Navy Admiral. It's obvious that CP9 wanted to find the Navy to keep them alive for a possible alliance. For now though Nami is extremely suspicious. Until Marco comes on with information about Fire Fists alignment, at the moment, Nami is basically confirmed CP9. I really hope Vent, but sadly could be a less useful member that CP9 doesn't care about losing. Marco I doubt a sheep citizen would ever confirm a NA claim. Her sudden change in vote was to confuse us into voting for Big Mom instead of her, which obviously worked.

For now I think Tony Tony is on a good lead with Wet Haired Caribou. We already know that Nami is scum, so we should use our day to pursue other leads before falling back onto it.
FM Wet Haired Caribou
Does anyone else think the interviewers plan to find the journalist wont work because Capone is now dead and can't confirm?

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

I'd say we ignore Nami for now, it's probably a sheep Citizen.

As for you Fist Ace, you're not a pirate.


Yesterday i was a pirate and now im a cp9?
I never thought you were a pirate. You buddied with the rebels though so you could be an infiltrator.

I'm interested in why Marco said you were "not a pirate" instead of "not suspicious". If you're not a pirate, you could still be a CP9 or neutral killer, both or which are friendly to the marines.

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

After the discussion, we personally would like to question these :

X Drake
Crocodile
Black Leg Sanji
Dracule Mihawk
Donquixote Doflamingo

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

because of his cooperation on the marine claim with big mom

Anyone on the CP9 team could have claimed it. Doesn't neccasarily make her the vent.

Marco I will be on for awhile. What questions do you have?

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

FM Wet Haired Caribou
What do you think about Big Mom being vented on day 2?

Caribou is alive and kicking. He believes Big Mom was vented since Day 2 because Caribou knows he received charged feedback. This means there is a CONFIRMED ventriloquist in the game. Everyone should post their code solution to prove they are not ventriloquist'd.

Nothing happened to Caribou last night.


Your password was 'CARIBOUX'
Your key was 'TRIBUNAL'
This is your code 'WSAKWCVJ'

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

Marco I will be on for awhile. What questions do you have?

What feedback have you received of all days?
Why would you not be a neutral?

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

I never thought you were a pirate. You buddied with the rebels though so you could be an infiltrator.

I'm interested in why Marco said you were "not a pirate" instead of "not suspicious". If you're not a pirate, you could still be a CP9 or neutral killer, both or which are friendly to the marines.

Maybe he said it so you would think im a cp9 and cause another misslynch. Marco only wanted to lynch Big mom yesterday, he refused to vote on anyone else. I think he has proven that he can't be trusted.

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

Marco only wanted to lynch Big mom yesterday, he refused to vote on anyone else.

My pardon, Big Mom claimed the Leader of the marine which is quite the thing to claim.
I took this as a clue if there's a Vent or if it's a member of the CP9 / Pirate taking high risks.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

What feedback have you received of all days?
Why would you not be a neutral?

Is Ace not suspicious?


My Code is:

XXMZYBOBESS

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

Is Ace not suspicious?

We've received another Not Suspicious. Why I said "You're not a pirate" is to clarify the claims from yesterday are wrong.

[FM Soul King Brook]

1{1} 43{2} 2{1} 987{38}

this line is what i don't understand. can anyone explain? modulo is actually the rest of a division, this however seems just like some random numbers
i think he was vented since d2. why was he so different on d4? because the vent decided to let him claim marine and get him lynched (so no real defense)

i think we can trust marco, he didn't know that big mom was a citi.
questions to marco:
who did you check today and can you tell us the result by a hidden message from the NA?
what is fire fist ace?
and i think you should investigate mihawk and sanji (as rhw main cp9 suspects) and buggy as a pirate suspect

[FM Crocodile]

After the discussion, we personally would like to question these :

X Drake
Crocodile
Black Leg Sanji
Dracule Mihawk
Donquixote Doflamingo

I'm on for a few minutes.

Nothing happened to me, the last few days were really hectic for me, and today will be as well. I'm getting on a plan in four hours.

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

questions to marco:
who did you check today and can you tell us the result by a hidden message from the NA?
what is fire fist ace?

For now, I'd like to make it unknown until it has become relevant. It's too early in the day.

I already said Fire Fist Ace is NS.

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

What feedback have you received of all days?
Why would you not be a neutral?

No feedback at all.

I'm not neutral because i'm taking active positions to hunt scum and get information. A neutral would have no reason to pick a side or scum hunt, except to blend in. Straw Hat or one of the non posters would be good targets to investigate.

Got some questions back for you-
If you find CP9, will you reveal them to town?

I ask this because all the detective roles in this FM are in the marines. From a logical standpoint you have no reason to reveal anyone except Pirates / NK.

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

If you find CP9, will you reveal them to town?

I ask this because all the detective roles in this FM are in the marines. From a logical standpoint you have no reason to reveal anyone except Pirates / NK.

Our priority is the Neutral Killer and the Pirates. If we find CP9, we will keep the information unless we have no information of NK / Pirates.

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

Our priority is the Neutral Killer and the Pirates. If we find CP9, we will keep the information unless we have no information of NK / Pirates.

Clarifying, it's to reduce the KPN by the pirates or to prevent an Arsonist to get all of us.

[FM Crocodile]

Anyway, there was pressure and/or questions you wanted to give me?

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

Anyway, there was pressure and/or questions you wanted to give me?

Why would you not be a neutral and what is your current thoughts about CP9?

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

Clarifying, it's to reduce the KPN by the pirates or to prevent an Arsonist to get all of us.

Okay that's understandable from your pov. I don't like you siding with CP9 though.

A better question, will you vote against targets that we think are CP9? Our town is too lurky/inactive so we need every vote we can get. Even begging execs to vote with us last night....I need to keep note of who you are protecting.

Any more questions for me, Marco?

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

Anyway, there was pressure and/or questions you wanted to give me?
What has been your strategy for this game?

Which faction/neutral should we be focused on?

Which players do you find the scummiest and why?

Why weren't you mod killed after not posting at all yesterday?

[FM Red Haired Shanks]

Agreed, Red haired shanks got 3 posts and haven't been modkilled. i find that suspicious.

I was replaced last night, thank you very much.

[FM Crocodile]

Why would you not be a neutral and what is your current thoughts about CP9?

Why am I not a neutral?

I can't seem to recall any stances I have taken, lynch-train wise, that would mark me as a non-neutral.
What doesn't make me a neutral is my role card, a Veteran.

My current thoughts about the CP9 are most likely going to be like most, they are bad.
CP9 team:
Infiltrator
Witch
Drug Dealer
Ventriloquist

Our greatest threat today is the Pirate Captain and/or the witch. If we can at least kill the witch, that gets a KPN away from the CP9, but if we kill the Pirate Captain, that gets rid of a KPN completely.
We should ask this question first, however:
If the Pirate Captain dies, and there are no regular pirates, does a random pirate role turn into a pirate?

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

Why am I not a neutral?

I can't seem to recall any stances I have taken, lynch-train wise, that would mark me as a non-neutral.
What doesn't make me a neutral is my role card, a Veteran.

My current thoughts about the CP9 are most likely going to be like most, they are bad.
CP9 team:
Infiltrator
Witch
Drug Dealer
Ventriloquist

Our greatest threat today is the Pirate Captain and/or the witch. If we can at least kill the witch, that gets a KPN away from the CP9, but if we kill the Pirate Captain, that gets rid of a KPN completely.
We should ask this question first, however:
If the Pirate Captain dies, and there are no regular pirates, does a random pirate role turn into a pirate?

Why did you claim veteran?

Which nights did you go alert on?

Why did you go alert on these nights?

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

A better question, will you vote against targets that we think are CP9? Our town is too lurky/inactive so we need every vote we can get.

Any more questions for me, Marco?

I will vote with the town for a CP9 suspect, but the lynch should be beneficial.
Big Mom's lynch may be a citizen, but it may have directly proven the existence of a Vent.

I have no more questions for now, thank you.

[FM Crocodile]

What has been your strategy for this game?

Which faction/neutral should we be focused on?

Which players do you find the scummiest and why?

Why weren't you mod killed after not posting at all yesterday?

Try and stay active, wanting to be a contributor.. not working very well.

CP9, obviously. Read my response to Marco about CP9/Pirate Captain.

I'm not sure at the moment, however I find Buggy, Gecko, Kuma, and Sanji (Until he clears himself by stating who he blocked) scummy.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

I was replaced last night, thank you very much.
What has been your strategy for this game?

Which faction/neutral should we be focused on?

Which players do you find the scummiest and why?

Why did you post only once yesterday and sheep vote a CP9 puppet?

[FM Crocodile]

Why did you claim veteran?

Which nights did you go alert on?

Why did you go alert on these nights?
To see who would try and kill me.

N1, I was a replacement, and the replacement message that was sent was a "Non-Citizen" Role.

I didn't go on alert any other night. I only have three.

[FM Crocodile]

Be right back, taking a shower.

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

I was replaced last night, thank you very much.

Hi Burn-E

thoughts on the game?

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

Doctor - Basil Hawkins
Hidden Town Power (Journalist) - Jewelry Bonney
Hidden Town Power (Bus Driver) - Sogeking
Hidden Town Power (Escort) - Black Leg Sanji
Hidden Town Power (Veteran) - Crocodile

That's all the PRs claimed. If you are a PR it might be a good idea to claim so we can lynch Sanji or Crocodile.

[FM Ferengi]

If the Pirate Captain dies, and there are no regular pirates, does a random pirate role turn into a pirate?

No, the hidden pirate will keep his role. He can choose between killing action and special action.

[FM Buggy the Clown]

Try and stay active, wanting to be a contributor.. not working very well.

CP9, obviously. Read my response to Marco about CP9/Pirate Captain.

I'm not sure at the moment, however I find Buggy, Gecko, Kuma, and Sanji (Until he clears himself by stating who he blocked) scummy.

Wow.
WOW
How dare anyone put me in the same list as Kuma. Why isn't Kuma dead yet.
I am not scum

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

Wow.
WOW
How dare anyone put me in the same list as Kuma. Why isn't Kuma dead yet.
I am not scum
Are you a citizen?

[FM Straw Hat Luffy]

Doctor - Basil Hawkins
Hidden Town Power (Journalist) - Jewelry Bonney
Hidden Town Power (Bus Driver) - Sogeking
Hidden Town Power (Escort) - Black Leg Sanji
Hidden Town Power (Veteran) - Crocodile

That's all the PRs claimed. If you are a PR it might be a good idea to claim so we can lynch Sanji or Crocodile.

Claiming a power role would put a target on that person... even if I agree that it would help figuring out scum claiming power role...
Let's wait until sanji tell us who he blocked last night.

[FM Red Haired Shanks]

I claim Citizen

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

1{1} 43{2} 2{1} 987{38}

this line is what i don't understand. can anyone explain? modulo is actually the rest of a division, this however seems just like some random numbers
i think he was vented since d2. why was he so different on d4? because the vent decided to let him claim marine and get him lynched (so no real defense)

i think we can trust marco, he didn't know that big mom was a citi.
questions to marco:
who did you check today and can you tell us the result by a hidden message from the NA?
what is fire fist ace?
and i think you should investigate mihawk and sanji (as rhw main cp9 suspects) and buggy as a pirate suspect

Caribou did think that Big Mom's code solution was odd, but he was willing to give Big Mom the benefit of the doubt. But Caribou believes that strange solution with the {placeholders} should have been our first clue he had been ventriloquist'd.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Good morning, everyone. Here's my code from yesterday:

Your password was 'Shakespeare'
Your key was 'Benedick'
This is your code 'UMOPIBSPCWS'

Nothing of interest happened to me last night.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

Caribou did think that Big Mom's code solution was odd, but he was willing to give Big Mom the benefit of the doubt. But Caribou believes that strange solution with the {placeholders} should have been our first clue he had been ventriloquist'd.
He used placeholders on day 1.

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/17547-Day-1-5-Where-we-arrived-again?p=283319&viewfull=1#post283319
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/17547-Day-1-5-Where-we-arrived-again?p=283228#post283228 - maybe related

[FM Buggy the Clown]

Are you a citizen?

You can't just ask me that!

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

As for you Fist Ace, you're not a pirate.

Didn't we decide yesterday that Ace is the pirate captain? That would mean you couldn't find him.


Can kill on his own. Has one auto-vest. Cannot be detected by Marines. As Power role, can be possibly found out by Rebel Scout.

I still say it's Ace. FM Fire Fist Ace

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

That's from the Pirate Captain's role card by the way. In case that wasn't clear.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Didn't we decide yesterday that Ace is the pirate captain? That would mean you couldn't find him.



I still say it's Ace. FM Fire Fist Ace

And why am i the pirate captain? cp9 is a priority even if i would be the pirate captain. Cat theif nami is a confirmed scum.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

And why am i the pirate captain? cp9 is a priority even if i would be the pirate captain. Cat theif nami is a confirmed scum.

I agree that Nami is scum. But Pirate Captain takes precedence because by killing you we ensure the CP9 no longer has control of the pirate kill, which means the pirates might start hitting the cp9 on accident.

[FM Soul King Brook]

I agree that Nami is scum. But Pirate Captain takes precedence because by killing you we ensure the CP9 no longer has control of the pirate kill, which means the pirates might start hitting the cp9 on accident.

but killing the vent is better.
1) it's cp9 which are still 4
2) noone will ever be vented again. additional voice and vote, no more confusion
3) last pirate can still kill.
4) witch will start to control other people

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

Didn't we decide yesterday that Ace is the pirate captain? That would mean you couldn't find him.



I still say it's Ace. FM Fire Fist Ace

Wow, you're bright. We didn't think of that.
If this is correct, we will cancel out the manual witch-kills made by CP9.

FM Fire Fist Ace

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

I agree that Nami is scum. But Pirate Captain takes precedence because by killing you we ensure the CP9 no longer has control of the pirate kill, which means the pirates might start hitting the cp9 on accident.

Tell me why you think im the pirate captain then. Im more likely to be a cp9 then the pirate captain, I even suggested that the journalist should reveal the framer so we could lynch him. Why not lynch the confirmed scum instead?

[FM Soul King Brook]

i don't know why you'll think ace is the pirate captain... he always voted with town the previous day

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

but killing the vent is better.
1) it's cp9 which are still 4
2) noone will ever be vented again. additional voice and vote, no more confusion
3) last pirate can still kill.
4) witch will start to control other people

I don't the vent would be an issue if everyone had just made codes like we planned... I agree that reducing day confusion is important, but they won't need to confuse us once they've killed us all. I think stopping kills should be our highest priority. At least with the vent we can try to see who is acting differently and potentially figure it out and ignore them. There's not much we can do about dead people.

I say we lynch Ace today, Nami tomorrow.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

I don't the vent would be an issue if everyone had just made codes like we planned... I agree that reducing day confusion is important, but they won't need to confuse us once they've killed us all. I think stopping kills should be our highest priority. At least with the vent we can try to see who is acting differently and potentially figure it out and ignore them. There's not much we can do about dead people.

I say we lynch Ace today, Nami tomorrow.

Could someone check if his code is right?

[FM Soul King Brook]

I don't the vent would be an issue if everyone had just made codes like we planned... I agree that reducing day confusion is important, but they won't need to confuse us once they've killed us all. I think stopping kills should be our highest priority. At least with the vent we can try to see who is acting differently and potentially figure it out and ignore them. There's not much we can do about dead people.

I say we lynch Ace today, Nami tomorrow.

we've had that discussion yesterday, result was first big mom/nami and then we take care of fist

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Tell me why you think im the pirate captain then. Im more likely to be a cp9 then the pirate captain, I even suggested that the journalist should reveal the framer so we could lynch him. Why not lynch the confirmed scum instead?

I give you one of Capone's posts from yesterday:


1) You claimed Rebel, and said I was a Marine, and then threatened to kill me.
2) You claimed Citizen, a Citizen wouldn't threaten to kill a Marine.
3) "All Citizen claimers are scum"
4)
Hmm....Fire Fist Ace. ATM, he is not confirmed Rebel by Kidd/WB. He wifom'd Rebel Leader/Scout day1. It's logical if Witch controls him onto someone very scummy (Cyborg Franky) to fail his recruit/scout.
5) You are hardcore deflecting onto EVERYONE.
6) You're calling me an Executioner.
7) "I wanted to side with Marines but I'd rather listen to a DEAD REBEL"

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Could someone check if his code is right?

You won't do it yourself? Lazy scum.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

@Nami

Can you tell us who the pirate captain is so we can lynch him for you?

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

You won't do it yourself? Lazy scum.

Lol, who are you calling lazy? You can't even tell me why you think im the pirate captain. You have to quote Capone.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Lol, who are you calling lazy? You can't even tell me why you think im the pirate captain. You have to quote Capone.

I quote Capone because he already made all of the points I would make. But I can paraphrase them in my own words, if you would like.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

@Mihawk

Do you think Big Mom was vented on day 2?

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

@Mihawk

Do you think Big Mom was vented on day 2?

Hmm... I'll go look through her posts and get back to you.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Aha. Here we are:


Proof I have not been disguised/ventrio’d:

Solution: Kali
{Kali is a Hindu goddess whose name comes from kala which means black, time, death, lord of death.}

k a l i
11 1 12 9
{subtract 10}
1 -9 2 -1
{add modulo’s to the negative numbers and count to the value of 42, the answer to the ultimate question}
1{1} 43{2} 2{1} 987{38}
{Placeholder 0}
1 43 2 0987

That's her code solution from day 2. I think this code is fake. Notice how she justifies her solution and has to explain every detail including the "placeholders". I think this is a steaming pile of bullshit that we should all kick ourselves for not noticing sooner. There is no way this is the code the real Big Mom intended.

So to answer your question more directly: yes, I think Big Mom was ventriloquisted on (and since) day 2.

[FM Soul King Brook]

1) You claimed Rebel, and said I was a Marine, and then threatened to kill me.
2) You claimed Citizen, a Citizen wouldn't threaten to kill a Marine.
3) "All Citizen claimers are scum"
4)
Quote Originally Posted by Capone
Hmm....Fire Fist Ace. ATM, he is not confirmed Rebel by Kidd/WB. He wifom'd Rebel Leader/Scout day1. It's logical if Witch controls him onto someone very scummy (Cyborg Franky) to fail his recruit/scout.
5) You are hardcore deflecting onto EVERYONE.
6) You're calling me an Executioner.
7) "I wanted to side with Marines but I'd rather listen to a DEAD REBEL"

1) he threatened him probably to strength his rebel claim. rebels want to kill marines you know. (maybe he also didn't believe the claim and thought you're cp9). idk why he claimed rebel, maybe he wanted to be a rebel, maybe he wanted to take a bullet to protect the real rebels, maybe he is a real rebel who decided to hide now
2) same as 1
3) i suppose this was not so serious^^
4) they didn't confirm any rebel. and if he's no rebel doesn't mean he is no town
also if they really thought that the person they controlled was rebel leader they would rather witch them on the infiltrator than scummy people. but i rather think the witch would control someone else, someone scummy to find killers (worked obviously)
btw, witch might indeed got the rebel leader on infitrator after he revealed so be careful last remaining rebels
5) what did he mean?
6) how is that a reason?
7) that was the best thing to do at this point

conclusion: he is most likely a little trolling citizen. might be scum indeed, but there's no proof. and chances that he is pirate captain are small...

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

1) he threatened him probably to strength his rebel claim. rebels want to kill marines you know. (maybe he also didn't believe the claim and thought you're cp9). idk why he claimed rebel, maybe he wanted to be a rebel, maybe he wanted to take a bullet to protect the real rebels, maybe he is a real rebel who decided to hide now
2) same as 1
3) i suppose this was not so serious^^
4) they didn't confirm any rebel. and if he's no rebel doesn't mean he is no town
also if they really thought that the person they controlled was rebel leader they would rather witch them on the infiltrator than scummy people. but i rather think the witch would control someone else, someone scummy to find killers (worked obviously)
btw, witch might indeed got the rebel leader on infitrator after he revealed so be careful last remaining rebels
5) what did he mean?
6) how is that a reason?
7) that was the best thing to do at this point

conclusion: he is most likely a little trolling citizen. might be scum indeed, but there's no proof. and chances that he is pirate captain are small...

Why are you defending him? I had you marked as "likely town" but your buddying with Ace is causing me to rethink that.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Why are you defending him? I had you marked as "likely town" but your buddying with Ace is causing me to rethink that.

The question is. Why are you defending Nami?

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

He used placeholders on day 1.

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/17547-Day-1-5-Where-we-arrived-again?p=283319&viewfull=1#post283319
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/17547-Day-1-5-Where-we-arrived-again?p=283228#post283228 - maybe related

Caribou disagrees. He first believed because of the {placeholders} that we should give Big Mom the benefit of the doubt, but now Caribou has begun to view the solution as a fake. At least according to Caribou.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

Aha. Here we are:



That's her code solution from day 2. I think this code is fake. Notice how she justifies her solution and has to explain every detail including the "placeholders". I think this is a steaming pile of bullshit that we should all kick ourselves for not noticing sooner. There is no way this is the code the real Big Mom intended.

So to answer your question more directly: yes, I think Big Mom was ventriloquisted on (and since) day 2.
You make a good point.

FM Cat Thief Nami
I think we should vote Nami instead of lynching Ace and Caribou who could be citizens + it will be hard to get enough votes to lynch either of them. Town holds the majority but we have a lot of lurkers and any disagreement over lynching the possible cits could cause us to no-lynch which isn't an option.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Caribou thinks Dracule is smart for figuring out that Ace, if the Pirate Captain, would also show up not suspicious to the navy admiral.

Good work, Sir Mihawk.

FM Fire Fist Ace

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

The question is. Why are you defending Nami?


I agree that Nami is scum. But Pirate Captain takes precedence because by killing you we ensure the CP9 no longer has control of the pirate kill, which means the pirates might start hitting the cp9 on accident.


I don't the vent would be an issue if everyone had just made codes like we planned... I agree that reducing day confusion is important, but they won't need to confuse us once they've killed us all. I think stopping kills should be our highest priority. At least with the vent we can try to see who is acting differently and potentially figure it out and ignore them. There's not much we can do about dead people.

I say we lynch Ace today, Nami tomorrow.

It appears my posts are beyond your reading level. Please have your parent or guardian explain to you what I mean before you comment so that you don't continue to make yourself look like such moron every time you speak.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

It appears my posts are beyond your reading level. Please have your parent or guardian explain to you what I mean before you comment so that you don't continue to make yourself look like such moron every time you speak.

You are buying him another Day by lynching a citizen. Your actions are very anti town.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Or perhaps it's the word "defend" you have trouble understanding. Have Soul King Brook explain it to you tonight in your night chat if we don't lynch you today.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

You are buying him another Day by lynching a citizen. Your actions are very anti town.

Lynching the Pirate Captain is anti-town he says. Ladies and Gentlemen, we've got ourselves a jee-nee-us.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Lynching the Pirate Captain is anti-town he says. Ladies and Gentlemen, we've got ourselves a jee-nee-us.

No, lynching a citizen over a confirmed scum is anti town. Im not going to flip pirate captain. But nami is guaranteed to flip scum.

[FM Soul King Brook]

Why are you defending him? I had you marked as "likely town" but your buddying with Ace is causing me to rethink that.

because i think that nami is the better lynch and because i want for evidence (i don't trust you so much)

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

We will reduce scum votes by 2 if we lynch the ventro which is most likely nami.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

1) he threatened him probably to strength his rebel claim. rebels want to kill marines you know. (maybe he also didn't believe the claim and thought you're cp9). idk why he claimed rebel, maybe he wanted to be a rebel, maybe he wanted to take a bullet to protect the real rebels, maybe he is a real rebel who decided to hide now
2) same as 1
3) i suppose this was not so serious^^
4) they didn't confirm any rebel. and if he's no rebel doesn't mean he is no town
also if they really thought that the person they controlled was rebel leader they would rather witch them on the infiltrator than scummy people. but i rather think the witch would control someone else, someone scummy to find killers (worked obviously)
btw, witch might indeed got the rebel leader on infitrator after he revealed so be careful last remaining rebels
5) what did he mean?
6) how is that a reason?
7) that was the best thing to do at this point

conclusion: he is most likely a little trolling citizen. might be scum indeed, but there's no proof. and chances that he is pirate captain are small...

I agree with Soul King. Ace seems more like a citizen to me and I'm not sure what he's done to make him the 99% confirmed pirate captain in the eyes of Mihawk and friends.

[FM Red Haired Shanks]

FM Cat Thief Nami


Nami is best choice right now.

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

The Pirates in this game are confusing me. I might need some clarification.

-Witch is suspected to be controlling the Pirate Captain and directing his kills, giving CP9 both night kills.
-Pirates still have two members.
-Pirates can select any of their two members to do their night kills.
-Witch forces Pirate Captain to kill, so the other Pirate MUST be using their ability and not being sent out to kill.

Because of a lack of cleaning we can say there is likely no Janitor, and if their is a disguiser he has not disguised. I highly doubt there is a disguiser, because then we would be sending him out to kill.

My guess is that the last Pirate is either a blackmailer or consort. If I had to guess it would be Sanji, as consort. He confirmed he is able to roleblock. However, no one has contested his or Crocodiles claims as town power. Only other reason I suspect Sanji is because the Rebels tried to convert him and failed.

So, to sum it up. I either think CP9 does not have control over the Pirate night kill OR Pirates are playing strangely using powers instead of killing. This is all assuming that if the Pirate leader is controlled he can still send out someone else to kill.

Also guys. We know that Nami is most likely CP9. There is no proof that she is the vent, all members of the CP9 likely know who was being controlled by the vent and could claim to support him. Killing Nami is a good option, but I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't the vent.

FM Cat Thief Nami

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

No, lynching a citizen over a confirmed scum is anti town. Im not going to flip pirate captain. But nami is guaranteed to flip scum.

In my eyes, you're as certain to be scum as nami. Capone tried to get us to lynch you yesterday and we ignored him. Now he's dead. Gee, I wonder who could have killed him.


I agree with Soul King. Ace seems more like a citizen to me and I'm not sure what he's done to make him the 99% confirmed pirate captain in the eyes of Mihawk and friends.

Some reasons include, but are not limited to:

-He first claimed rebel and said anyone who claims citizen is scum.
-accused sanji of being scum because he claimed citizen.
-Claims citizen himself.
-Accused Capone of being executioner when Capone was pointing out valid evidence against him.
-last person who pushed on Ace (Capone) is now dead.

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

If I may interrupt the lynch train for a moment, what will lynching a possible Vent do?

It's not the witch, the KPN will be 2. If we have a CP9 target, I rather focus on the actual witch.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

In my eyes, you're as certain to be scum as nami. Capone tried to get us to lynch you yesterday and we ignored him. Now he's dead. Gee, I wonder who could have killed him.



Some reasons include, but are not limited to:

-He first claimed rebel and said anyone who claims citizen is scum.
-accused sanji of being scum because he claimed citizen.
-Claims citizen himself.
-Accused Capone of being executioner when Capone was pointing out valid evidence against him.
-last person who pushed on Ace (Capone) is now dead.

Obviously capones death was a attempt to frame me. I would have killed him earlier if i was the pirate captain. Im surprised it took you so long to mention that, Did you maybe wait for a townie to say it to make you less suspicious of killing him?

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

If I may interrupt the lynch train for a moment, what will lynching a possible Vent do?

It's not the witch, the KPN will be 2. If we have a CP9 target, I rather focus on the actual witch.

2 less scums on the Day chat. If we have a mayor the Mayor can safely reveal without fear of beeing controlled.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

If I may interrupt the lynch train for a moment, what will lynching a possible Vent do?

It's not the witch, the KPN will be 2. If we have a CP9 target, I rather focus on the actual witch.

This.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

@marco, i just hope you know that the cp9 will side against you when all the town members are dead, as long as they have 2 kpn. they can trust the pirates more than you guys. so i hope you take that into account.

and i dont have a code, because the day ended too early. but i'll just reveal who i targeted to prove i'm not vented.

and i was bussed last night.

[FM Cat Thief Nami]

but we are missing something.... didnt zoro also claim escort?

I'm tired long night, but for real I'm not pirate. I will be on later I'm at work. Town its not a good idea to lynch me. I want to say that black leg is more of consort then escort due to fact that all other pirate roles seem ireelivent. The fact is lynching pirate caption will cause pirate to be free of the constraints. I'll be here for about 30 mins. Towns focus should be infiltrator/pirates.

Its best my role stays hidden from the real scums.

[FM Soul King Brook]

The Pirates in this game are confusing me. I might need some clarification.

-Witch is suspected to be controlling the Pirate Captain and directing his kills, giving CP9 both night kills.
-Pirates still have two members.
-Pirates can select any of their two members to do their night kills.
-Witch forces Pirate Captain to kill, so the other Pirate MUST be using their ability and not being sent out to kill.

Because of a lack of cleaning we can say there is likely no Janitor, and if their is a disguiser he has not disguised. I highly doubt there is a disguiser, because then we would be sending him out to kill.

My guess is that the last Pirate is either a blackmailer or consort. If I had to guess it would be Sanji, as consort. He confirmed he is able to roleblock. However, no one has contested his or Crocodiles claims as town power. Only other reason I suspect Sanji is because the Rebels tried to convert him and failed.

So, to sum it up. I either think CP9 does not have control over the Pirate night kill OR Pirates are playing strangely using powers instead of killing. This is all assuming that if the Pirate leader is controlled he can still send out someone else to kill.

Also guys. We know that Nami is most likely CP9. There is no proof that she is the vent, all members of the CP9 likely know who was being controlled by the vent and could claim to support him. Killing Nami is a good option, but I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't the vent.

FM Cat Thief Nami

if captain is alive only he can kill. others can only kill if captain is dead. but the pirate captain has obviously no balls, he is the bitch of cp9 and doesn't suicide, though the last pirate could kill then.
last role could actually be a janitor, because pirates never had the chance to kill and clean because of witch. blackmailer however isn't possible, because noone ever claimed bm


In my eyes, you're as certain to be scum as nami. Capone tried to get us to lynch you yesterday and we ignored him. Now he's dead. Gee, I wonder who could have killed him.



Some reasons include, but are not limited to:

-He first claimed rebel and said anyone who claims citizen is scum.
-accused sanji of being scum because he claimed citizen.
-Claims citizen himself.
-Accused Capone of being executioner when Capone was pointing out valid evidence against him.
-last person who pushed on Ace (Capone) is now dead.

this are the same weak clues...
apart from 2) but that's not true, we townies accused him because rebels say he can't be citizen and though he claimed citizen and tried to discredit the confirmd rebels without even a vote on him (there was urouge's train)
no. 5 is new too but i think the cp9 did the kill again

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

but we are missing something.... didnt zoro also claim escort?

I'm tired long night, but for real I'm not pirate. I will be on later I'm at work. Town its not a good idea to lynch me. I want to say that black leg is more of consort then escort due to fact that all other pirate roles seem ireelivent. The fact is lynching pirate caption will cause pirate to be free of the constraints. I'll be here for about 30 mins. Towns focus should be infiltrator/pirates.

Its best my role stays hidden from the real scums.

zoro did not claim escort. and i'll happy lynch you since your useless and got big mom lynched. but who the hell knows anyway.

@everyone else, why does nami want us to think she's scummy?

[FM Cat Thief Nami]

zoro did not claim escort. and i'll happy lynch you since your useless and got big mom lynched. but who the hell knows anyway.

@everyone else, why does nami want us to think she's scummy?

Your right I misread.

Why is right? Lets see what time it is here i got 15 mins till work. Then aprox 3 hrs of work where I should be absent. So we got time.

I do like the pirate suciding though. Can the pirate do that?

I still want our supposive escort to claim who rbed and person confirm.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

zoro did not claim escort. and i'll happy lynch you since your useless and got big mom lynched. but who the hell knows anyway.

@everyone else, why does nami want us to think she's scummy?

Wifoming New player to survive.

[FM Cat Thief Nami]

Also bonnie, plz name who was interviewed...

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Yes, we should lynch sanji tomorrow if he doesn't claim who he roleblocked befeore the end of this day.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

Your right I misread.

Why is right? Lets see what time it is here i got 15 mins till work. Then aprox 3 hrs of work where I should be absent. So we got time.

I do like the pirate suciding though. Can the pirate do that?

I still want our supposive escort to claim who rbed and person confirm.

you don't get to dictate anything, or ask who did what. you can answer questions and be super cooperative, like give your role, or again, leave, cuz i don't want to waste time reading crap. thanks.

[FM Soul King Brook]

bonney pls reveal the interviewee, yes, as he wanted, to proof you're not vented

nami must be scum. she says her role should stay hidden
-> if she was citi or rebel, she would just tell us
-> there are no TPR slots left (if one is lieing and nami was TPR she would counter claim)
-> marco says she is no marine

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

Yes, we should lynch sanji tomorrow if he doesn't claim who he roleblocked befeore the end of this day.

well obviously both of you aren't the same team. that's good. cuz accusations have been flying that both of you are pirate members.

[FM Cat Thief Nami]

Yes, we should lynch sanji tomorrow if he doesn't claim who he roleblocked befeore the end of this day.

How about today? Taking out what could be consort. If he escort can calls correct I would like him to tell us what pirate role is fit.

the 4 pirates

Caption
Janitor: 5 cleanings, think town would have corner included then at least
first mate: DEAD
Framer: DEAD
Blackmailer: None have claimed blackmailed.
Disguiser: Disguiser would of striked an afk to stay hidden is my guess.
pirate: then witch is wrong
consort: rbing been claimed.

pirate setup

caption (being witched)
first mate (dead)
framer (dead)
consort (black leg sanji probally)

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

bonney pls reveal the interviewee, yes, as he wanted, to proof you're not vented

nami must be scum. she says her role should stay hidden
-> if she was citi or rebel, she would just tell us
-> there are no TPR slots left (if one is lieing and nami was TPR she would counter claim)
-> marco says she is no marine

i will reveal, but something's fishy. so i'm going to review the past few days, tally up votes, and claims, and sht. since no one appears to be dnoig that, like last game. that imo is the best way to get people confirmed as scum.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

How about today? Taking out what could be consort. If he escort can calls correct I would like him to tell us what pirate role is fit.

the 4 pirates

Caption
Janitor: 5 cleanings, think town would have corner included then at least
first mate: DEAD
Framer: DEAD
Blackmailer: None have claimed blackmailed.
Disguiser: Disguiser would of striked an afk to stay hidden is my guess.
pirate: then witch is wrong
consort: rbing been claimed.

pirate setup

caption (being witched)
first mate (dead)
framer (dead)
consort (black leg sanji probally)

Why did you confirm that big mom was a marine with you? How did big mom know that you would confirm her befeore you actually confirmed her?

[FM Cat Thief Nami]

bonney pls reveal the interviewee, yes, as he wanted, to proof you're not vented

nami must be scum. she says her role should stay hidden
-> if she was citi or rebel, she would just tell us
-> there are no TPR slots left (if one is lieing and nami was TPR she would counter claim)
-> marco says she is no marine

The question is if i claim cit would you beleive it? Because that's what I am. I was trying to make myself look more priority target to cp9/pirates.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

How about today? Taking out what could be consort. If he escort can calls correct I would like him to tell us what pirate role is fit.

the 4 pirates

Caption
Janitor: 5 cleanings, think town would have corner included then at least
first mate: DEAD
Framer: DEAD
Blackmailer: None have claimed blackmailed.
Disguiser: Disguiser would of striked an afk to stay hidden is my guess.
pirate: then witch is wrong
consort: rbing been claimed.

pirate setup

caption (being witched)
first mate (dead)
framer (dead)
consort (black leg sanji probally)

or bmer is on the same person forever, or disguiser hasn't made his move for unobvious reasons. i, for now, buy his escort claim.

and goodbye for now, going to go review the past few days.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

The question is if i claim cit would you beleive it? Because that's what I am. I was trying to make myself look more priority target to cp9/pirates.

llliiiaarrrrrrrrr
you claimed marine, why would cp9 want to target marines.
this is why we think your cp9.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

The question is if i claim cit would you beleive it? Because that's what I am. I was trying to make myself look more priority target to cp9/pirates.

Claiming marine doesn't really put you on their priority list.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

-He first claimed rebel and said anyone who claims citizen is scum.
-accused sanji of being scum because he claimed citizen.
-Claims citizen himself.
-Accused Capone of being executioner when Capone was pointing out valid evidence against him.
-last person who pushed on Ace (Capone) is now dead.
This makes him a pirate but not CP9 because...?


but we are missing something.... didnt zoro also claim escort?

I'm tired long night, but for real I'm not pirate. I will be on later I'm at work. Town its not a good idea to lynch me. I want to say that black leg is more of consort then escort due to fact that all other pirate roles seem ireelivent. The fact is lynching pirate caption will cause pirate to be free of the constraints. I'll be here for about 30 mins. Towns focus should be infiltrator/pirates.

Its best my role stays hidden from the real scums.
I'd lynch the pirate captain instead of you if you told us who he is. It's your choice whether you want to protect him or keep yourself alive.

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

if captain is alive only he can kill. others can only kill if captain is dead. but the pirate captain has obviously no balls, he is the bitch of cp9 and doesn't suicide, though the last pirate could kill then.
last role could actually be a janitor, because pirates never had the chance to kill and clean because of witch. blackmailer however isn't possible, because noone ever claimed bm

If captain is alive is only he allowed to kill?
Can Pirate Captain send out someone else to make the night kill?

I think we are following a bad trail and need to get this sorted.




Nami- I also think its a consort, but blackmailer is possible. Or even multiple Framers/first mates. A black mailer wouldn't reveal themselves by changing target and allowing someone to claim blackmailed...

Also how does claiming Marine make you a CP9 priority? And of all the people Big Mom couldve asked to confirm her, you were asked and confirmed.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

@marco, i just hope you know that the cp9 will side against you when all the town members are dead, as long as they have 2 kpn. they can trust the pirates more than you guys. so i hope you take that into account.

and i dont have a code, because the day ended too early. but i'll just reveal who i targeted to prove i'm not vented.

and i was bussed last night.

Caribou thinks you should reveal your interviewed target to prove you are not ventriloquist'd. It only seems prudent since you are the town leader who forgot to post a code, at least according to Caribou.

[FM Cat Thief Nami]

Why did you confirm that big mom was a marine with you? How did big mom know that you would confirm her befeore you actually confirmed her?

Plz post link or post on where I confirm it. I got about 10 mins before work again. But I'll be back after work.

lets put this hypotetical:

If I'm cp9: what am I to be claiming marine? A useless cp9 thats what. Lynching me is waste of time.

[FM Cat Thief Nami]

I must be going back to work i'll be back in about 3-4 hrs

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Caribou thinks you should reveal your interviewed target to prove you are not ventriloquist'd. It only seems prudent since you are the town leader who forgot to post a code, at least according to Caribou.

I was also bussed last night. The ventro would have targeted me if bonney is controlled.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

[QUOTE=FM Tony Tony Chopper;288671]This makes him a pirate but not CP9 because...?
He wasn't detected by the marines. Ergo, he is either pirate captain or town. I say pirate captain.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

This makes him a pirate but not CP9 because...?
He wasn't detected by the marines. Ergo, he is either pirate captain or town. I say pirate captain.

(fixed)

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Plz post link or post on where I confirm it. I got about 10 mins before work again. But I'll be back after work.

lets put this hypotetical:

If I'm cp9: what am I to be claiming marine? A useless cp9 thats what. Lynching me is waste of time.

Caribou believes that it is possible Nami claimed marine because she is a pirate! A pirate would have the most to gain by claiming marine, at least according to Caribou.

Caribou cannot trust Bonney until she proves she is not ventriloquist'd by claiming her target; of course, it is only prudent.

[FM Bartholomew Kuma]

I got no night feedback message, can someone link who came up with the code idea?

[FM Buggy the Clown]

Hey I'm still on fire guys

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

I was also bussed last night. The ventro would have targeted me if bonney is controlled.

unless the ventro is lying about me being bussed. but it was us two.

[FM Bartholomew Kuma]

Hey I'm still on fire guys

Don't you mean doused? I should know I am Arsonist

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

I got no night feedback message, can someone link who came up with the code idea?

me

[FM Bartholomew Kuma]

me

Can u tell me what day/page so I can figure out how it works and create one of my own?

[FM Buggy the Clown]

Don't you mean doused? I should know I am Arsonist

Same thing.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

It is probably best if we don't split the vote. Caribou will vote Nami and urges you to do the same.

FM Cat Thief Nami

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

It is probably best if we don't split the vote. Caribou will vote Nami and urges you to do the same.

FM Cat Thief Nami

Fine. It appears no one will listen to me about Ace, so I will FM Cat Thief Nami

But can we please agree to lynch Ace tomorrow? To steal a quote from every woman who's ever been on the Maury show: "I'm 1,000% sure he's the [god]father!"

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

Hint taken.

Buggy, what's your role?

[FM Straw Hat Luffy]

FM Cat Thief Nami

Here goes my vote for now... still waiting for Sanji to show up though.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

we shouldn't hammer befeore sanji claims who he blocked last night.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

12 votes to hammer. First mate forgot to remove big mom from the player list.

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

I don't want to lynch, because I want to know Buggy's role.

[FM Buggy the Clown]

I don't want to lynch, because I want to know Buggy's role.

I am the Smoker
*stares at you intently*

[FM Don Krieg]

I am here guys, sorry for showing up a bit later.

My solution:
roflocopter
apple

New code: (server is on heavy load, I will post later)

I think that Nami is a CP9 who claimed Marine because she wanted to subtly tell the Marines that she is a CP9 wanting to work together. Now, realizing that the Marines are out to hunt CP9, she is backpedaling on her claim and goes back to a "safe" citizen claim and is not able to defend herself claiming Marine.

FM Cat Thief Nami (hope this is okay since it doesn't hammer Nami yet)

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

I am the Smoker

FM Buggy the Clown

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

[unvote][Unvote] We are L3 now so i will unvote. We have to let everyone post befeore we hammer.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

dot

[FM Buggy the Clown]

FM Buggy the Clown

WELL I'm probably not CP9 since the ventriloquist hounded after me yesterday.

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

WELL I'm probably not CP9 since the ventriloquist hounded after me yesterday.

That could be faked. I suspect you.

[FM Black Leg Sanji]

I am here. Last night I attempted to RB Ace, however, I ended up being Witched so I do not know who I ended up RBing.

[FM Buggy the Clown]

That could be faked. I suspect you.

But I'm not. I'm bound to die within the upcoming days anyway. I'm doused. Kinda a waste of a lynch.

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

we shouldn't hammer befeore sanji claims who he blocked last night.

protecting someone I think might be consort noted

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

I am here. Last night I attempted to RB Ace, however, I ended up being Witched so I do not know who I ended up RBing.

This begs the question :
Why would the witch switch target from killing to an escort / consort?

[FM Black Leg Sanji]

This begs the question :
Why would the witch switch target from killing to an escort / consort?

Most likely because I could have ended up RBing the Witch or Vent.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Do you recieve a notification if you get witched?

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

This begs the question :
Why would the witch switch target from killing to an escort / consort?

I have a theory.

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

But I'm not. I'm bound to die within the upcoming days anyway. I'm doused. Kinda a waste of a lynch.

You could be an arsonist who may have doused one who died, taking the opportunity to self claim doused.

[FM Black Leg Sanji]

Don't you mean doused? I should know I am Arsonist

Dat invisible ink.

[FM Buggy the Clown]

You could be an arsonist who may have doused one who died, taking the opportunity to self claim doused.

I have to go for a few hours.
I may have been drug doused,I don't know. Only 2 people claimed doused so far I think.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

I think sanji is beeing controlled by a vent. it doesn't say anything about recieving a notification if you get targeted by a witch in the rolecard.

[FM Black Leg Sanji]

I think sanji is beeing controlled by a vent. it doesn't say anything about recieving a notification if you get targeted by a witch in the rolecard.

Yet it also doesn't say that they aren't notified either. Only way to confirm is to wait for the host to say.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

i suggest your interview Sanji tonight so he can confirm if he was beeing controlled today or not

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

I have to go for a few hours.
I may have been drug doused,I don't know. Only 2 people claimed doused so far I think.

One doesn't get doused twice in a row. That makes me think, unlucky arsonist - or you.

[FM Black Leg Sanji]

One doesn't get doused twice in a row. That makes me think, unlucky arsonist - or you.

Let me remind you Kuma claimed Arsonist in 137 in invisible ink.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Let me remind you Kuma claimed Arsonist in 137 in invisible ink.

Arso is not a priority. We have to lynch cp9 members.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

arso might even kill some scums for uss.

[FM Don Krieg]

Finally, it works.

My new code: KFPWIYJTRY

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

95% sure that you get notified. black leg, you were notified right?

and marco, buggy wasn't doused twice, she was one of the doused people.

[FM Black Leg Sanji]

I don't like the fact that Nami claimed Marine to keep Big Mom's Marine claim going, and today posts that she's a Cit and just leaves.

FM Cat Thief Nami

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

Let's get to the facts. Witching comes before roleblocking, is it possible that the Escort / Consort roleblocked the Witch, causing the Witch to take on the RB'r?

Who was roleblocked yesterday?

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

I don't like the fact that Nami claimed Marine to keep Big Mom's Marine claim going, and today posts that she's a Cit and just leaves.

FM Cat Thief Nami

Why so eager to end the day? are you afraid of what the answer to my question is going to be?

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

please roleblock me tonight if you think im the pirate captain. (#431 of day 4)

That wouldn't clear you. Sanji could be witched and then there would be 2 KPN like normal. (#433 of day 4)

Here's my theory: Sanji says he attempted to roleblock Ace. Witch predicted he might do this, and decided to risk letting the pirates control their own kill for the night in order to ensure that 2 kills happened. Ace chose to kill Capone because Capone called him out on being the Pirate Captain.

For the love of god can we please lynch this scum already? FM Fire Fist Ace

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

(#431 of day 4)
(#433 of day 4)

Here's my theory: Sanji says he attempted to roleblock Ace. Witch predicted he might do this, and decided to risk letting the pirates control their own kill for the night in order to ensure that 2 kills happened. Ace chose to kill Capone because Capone called him out on being the Pirate Captain.

For the love of god can we please lynch this scum already? FM Fire Fist Ace

Are you saying that im a cp9 now?

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

For the love of god can we please lynch this scum already?

Sure.

FM Fire Fist Ace

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

(#431 of day 4)
(#433 of day 4)

Here's my theory: Sanji says he attempted to roleblock Ace. Witch predicted he might do this, and decided to risk letting the pirates control their own kill for the night in order to ensure that 2 kills happened. Ace chose to kill Capone because Capone called him out on being the Pirate Captain.

For the love of god can we please lynch this scum already? FM Fire Fist Ace

agree, just came to the SAME conclusion. and i have more evidence piling up
FM Fire Fist Ace

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

(#431 of day 4)
(#433 of day 4)

Here's my theory: Sanji says he attempted to roleblock Ace. Witch predicted he might do this, and decided to risk letting the pirates control their own kill for the night in order to ensure that 2 kills happened. Ace chose to kill Capone because Capone called him out on being the Pirate Captain.

For the love of god can we please lynch this scum already? FM Fire Fist Ace


Are you saying that im a cp9 now?

Learn.
To.
Read.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

We should wait untill First mate confirms if you recieve notifications about beeing witched.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

says nothing about it in the rolecard

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

it was in last fm game, that they were notified.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

says nothing about it in the rolecard
Caribou checked on this; it is as Ace suggests. However,


Drug Dealer - Drugs target player, making him to believe that he has attacked and healed, witched, swapped, doused, charged, roleblocked, or annoyed by Jester.

Caribou thinks it would be quite ludicrous if a witch did not give feedback but a drug dealer could give witched feedback! Preposterous.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

it was in last fm game, that they were notified.

I think it was mentioned in the rolecard. or game mechanics.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Caribou thinks it would be quite ludicrous if a witch did not give feedback but a drug dealer could give witched feedback! Preposterous.

This.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

FM Fire Fist Ace

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

Isn't Ace not knowing about witch notifications evidence against him being the pirate captain?

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Caribou checked on this; it is as Ace suggests. However,



Caribou thinks it would be quite ludicrous if a witch did not give feedback but a drug dealer could give witched feedback! Preposterous.

You are probably right. Even if i am the pirate captain and get lynched today it still wouldn't prevent scums from getting 2 kpns. It would only encourage the witch to keep controlling the escort/consort.

He might even have been drugged into believing that he was witched.

[FM Red Haired Shanks]

Still waiting for more info, before I change my vote.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

I still don't get why everyone is so focused on discrediting me rather then lynching a confirmed scum.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Isn't Ace not knowing about witch notifications evidence against him being the pirate captain?

Can citizen vote?

Oops. I guess I can't be citizen.
Do you see the problem with using questions as evidence?

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

I still don't get why everyone is so focused on discrediting me rather then lynching a confirmed scum.
Probably because 50-75% of the people voting you aren't town.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Maybe their plan was to drug Senji and ventro me. I was swapped with Bonney tonight so bonney would be the ventro target if they targeted me.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

Can citizen vote?

Oops. I guess I can't be citizen.
Do you see the problem with using questions as evidence?
I don't. Are you claiming citizen?

[FM Don Krieg]

I will keep my vote on Nami for now because we don't want to end the day early by hammering, but let it be known that I agree on Fire Fist Ace being scum after considering the presented evidence.

[FM Don Krieg]

Maybe their plan was to drug Senji and ventro me. I was swapped with Bonney tonight so bonney would be the ventro target if they targeted me.

And what if they actually targeted Bonney because she posted no code? Not sure what that would do anyway, I'm just speaking my first thought.

Pretty tired so a heads-up to you all: I'm gonna go to bed soon.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Bonney wont even say who she interviewed tonight.

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

You are probably right. Even if i am the pirate captain and get lynched today it still wouldn't prevent scums from getting 2 kpns. It would only encourage the witch to keep controlling the escort/consort.

He might even have been drugged into believing that he was witched.

I wasn't convinced you were Pirate Captain until this.


FM Fire Fist Ace

If Bonney was targeted it just means that we have a journalist that will likely not be targeted by the CP9. However, we will be able to tell who it is by her posting. I'm suspecting one of the lurkers to be a better suspect for ventriloquist. Maybe the guy that claimed arsonist in invisible ink.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

I don't. Are you claiming citizen?

I sincerely hope you're joking. But I suspect that you aren't, which makes me sad. I give up trying to talk sense into you. Does anyone else want to try explaining to Tony why, in a game filled with lies, it is stupid to assume that asking questions is a town tell?

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

I wasn't convinced you were Pirate Captain until this.


FM Fire Fist Ace

If Bonney was targeted it just means that we have a journalist that will likely not be targeted by the CP9. However, we will be able to tell who it is by her posting. I'm suspecting one of the lurkers to be a better suspect for ventriloquist. Maybe the guy that claimed arsonist in invisible ink.

Your vote failed. You can't vote more than once in the same post (unvoting counts). For future reference- you don't have to unvote in order to switch your vote onto a new person, so the only time you should unvote is when you do not wish to have your vote on anyone.

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

Your vote failed. You can't vote more than once in the same post (unvoting counts). For future reference- you don't have to unvote in order to switch your vote onto a new person, so the only time you should unvote is when you do not wish to have your vote on anyone.

Thanks.
Fm Fire Fist Ace
Fixed

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

i'm not vented. i'll prove it after i go through all the days worth of posts.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

I sincerely hope you're joking. But I suspect that you aren't, which makes me sad. I give up trying to talk sense into you. Does anyone else want to try explaining to Tony why, in a game filled with lies, it is stupid to assume that asking questions is a town tell?
There is no such thing as a town tell because it could be scum lying? There is no such thing as a scum tell because it could be town lying to look scummy? Or is this just specific to questions as unlike sentences without a question mark, questions cannot be analysed? Or is this specific to town tells as it wouldn't be stupid to assume asking questions is a scum tell?

Thinking like that, how would you form an opinion on anyone? How would you analyse this post?

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

wait a minute... if escort was blocked and the pirates had a kill to themselves, why would they kill capone? isn't that too obviously framed?

someone prove me wrong, cuz i want to lynch first ace

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

There is no such thing as a town tell because it could be scum lying? There is no such thing as a scum tell because it could be town lying to look scummy? Or is this just specific to questions as unlike sentences without a question mark, questions cannot be analysed? Or is this specific to town tells as it wouldn't be stupid to assume asking questions is a scum tell?

Thinking like that, how would you form an opinion on anyone? How would you analyse this post?

The key word in my post was "assume". Anything can be a town or scum tell, depending on the motivations behind it. So the question is not "what is being said?" but rather "what is the motivation behind what is being said?" or "why would he/she say that?"

In Ace's case, you're assuming he asked because he didn't know the answer (and thus, has not been witched/is not pirate captain). This is one possible explanation, but there is also another one- he asked because he wants us to think he doesn't know the answer (thus convincing us he wasn't witched/isn't the pirate captain and throwing us off his trail). I believe my suggested motivation is correct because it is supported by other evidence; namely the death of capone and the witching of sanji.

I do not see any evidence to support your claim, but feel free to point it out if I am missing it.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

10 non townies vs 13 townies. If we misslynch today it will probably be 10 townies vs 10 non townies.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

wait a minute... if escort was blocked and the pirates had a kill to themselves, why would they kill capone? isn't that too obviously framed?

someone prove me wrong, cuz i want to lynch first ace

I think he hoped someone would make this exact argument thus allowing him to kill his biggest opponent while saying "clearly I was framed".

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Just lynch me, a town win would require too mutch effort anyway. The marines will obviously side with Cp9 when town and scum numbers are tied. which they might be tomorrow.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Town is extremely weak in this setup since we lack any kind of investigative roles. Cp9 has tons of town confusing roles that makes it even harder.

[FM Donquixote Doflamingo]

Just lynch me, a town win would require too mutch effort anyway. The marines will obviously side with Cp9 when town and scum numbers are tied. which they might be tomorrow.

uh okay. and I agree. kind of sucks that all the investigative roles can ally with our enemy.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Actually it will be 9 townies vs 11 scums tomorrow if you count the Ventro target.

[FM Soul King Brook]

don't you think that sanji could be lieing so he doesn't have to tell us who was blocked? maybe because he can't? because he is no escort/consort?
we have to know who was really blocked. so we can find out if it was in witch's intention to block this guy

and we really can't afford another mislynch. don't let big mom's sacrifice be for nothing. we can and will win and the first stop on our victory train is lynching nami the vent

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

don't you think that sanji could be lieing so he doesn't have to tell us who was blocked? maybe because he can't? because he is no escort/consort?
we have to know who was really blocked. so we can find out if it was in witch's intention to block this guy


He could be lying. But I think his claim fits in with the evidence we have so far. However, I agree that the person who was actually blocked should claim.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

Just lynch me, a town win would require too mutch effort anyway. The marines will obviously side with Cp9 when town and scum numbers are tied. which they might be tomorrow.



still compiling evidence. almost through day 1. this is getting tiring.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

He could be lying. But I think his claim fits in with the evidence we have so far. However, I agree that the person who was actually blocked should claim.

PERSON THAT WAS BLOCKED. CLAIM.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

PERSON THAT WAS BLOCKED. CLAIM.

unless they're scum and wont...? hmm...

[FM Soul King Brook]

PERSON THAT WAS BLOCKED. CLAIM.

would you tell us now who was interviewed? seems like you're trying to delay it

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

unless they're scum and wont...? hmm...

Possible. Perhaps it was Ace's last remaining ally who does not wish to incriminate him.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Fm Cat theif Nami is our most likely cp9 suspect. our only hope of getting marines on our side is to reduce their numbers. If he turns out to be a citizen then i might just suicide tonight since then town wont have any chance of winning.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Fm Cat Thief Nami

[FM Soul King Brook]

If he turns out to be a citizen
this won't happen


then i might just suicide tonight since then town wont have any chance of winning.
this wouldn't be true i think we still had a fair chance

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

this won't happen


this wouldn't be true i think we still had a fair chance

I would be doing town a favour by confirming that im a citizen if i suicide tonight.

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

our only hope of getting marines on our side is to reduce their numbers.

Getting the CP9 wouldn't change the sides, primarily we are against the NK and Pirate.
We did have an argument as Fire Fist being the Pirate Captain, reducing the CP9 controlled kills.

Nami are not the witch.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

Getting the CP9 wouldn't change the sides, primarily we are against the NK and Pirate.
We did have an argument as Fire Fist being the Pirate Captain, reducing the CP9 controlled kills.

Nami are not the witch.

you say nami is not the witch? why?

[FM Soul King Brook]

btw a question, if i am vented can the vent also see my pms? and so the night feedback? because he gets access to my fm account, doesnt he

[FM Soul King Brook]

I would be doing town a favour by confirming that im a citizen if i suicide tonight.

that's actually true, so no lynch would be wasted on you ;)

bonney you are very evasive. i think you're vented. you also came online at the same time as nami

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

As I don't have much chance of winning on my own and I'm losing the will to continue just so I can get random killed at the end, I'll help town out.

I'm the last rebel. I was recruited on night 3. On night 4 I was sent to recruit Mihawk.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

that's actually true, so no lynch would be wasted on you ;)

bonney you are very evasive. i think you're vented. you also came online at the same time as nami

i think i know who is actually vented 100%. let me continue going through posts. give me time.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

He's not a citizen. Accidentally deleted that part :P

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

As I don't have much chance of winning on my own and I'm losing the will to continue just so I can get random killed at the end, I'll help town out.

I'm the last rebel. I was recruited on night 3. On night 4 I was sent to recruit Mihawk.

when were you converted? when did conversions fail besides for black leg.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

As I don't have much chance of winning on my own and I'm losing the will to continue just so I can get random killed at the end, I'll help town out.

I'm the last rebel. I was recruited on night 3. On night 4 I was sent to recruit Mihawk.

So your recruit on mihawk failed?

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

you say nami is not the witch? why?

If Nami is not a sheep-citizen, then it's a Vent. Not a witch, which we need to get down.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

He's not a citizen. Accidentally deleted that part :P

this is good. we may have found scum. dracule was the first person to push my lynch.

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

when were you converted? when did conversions fail besides for black leg.
Night 3.

I'll need to go check on my rebel account but I have no other information on living non-cits.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Can players choose to commit suicide?

If so, I would be ok with lynching Nami if Ace agrees to suicide tonight. We know he's not the disguiser, because the marines would have detected him, so we don't have to worry about him escaping that way. If he suicides, we'll know what he is for sure, and if he doesn't, we can be be 100% certain he's scum and lynch him tomorrow.

[FM Soul King Brook]

so then mihawk would be scum
but you know that the other rebels were already dead on night 4? sure you don't mean n2 and n3?
and why were there no more recruits? can't they both recruit? what was n1?

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

If what tony says is true. Fm Dracule Mihawk

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

Night 1 - Recruit Sanji, Check Tony

Night 2 - Recruit Tony, Check Urouge

Night 3 - Recruit Mihawk, Check Capone

I got the nights wrong in my earlier post.

[FM Marco the Phoenix]

FM Dracule Mihawk

Thanks for the information Tony Tony.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

FM Dracule Mihawk

Thanks for the information Tony Tony.

Im not voting on him if you are. Fm Cat thief Nami

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

Im not voting on him if you are. Fm Cat thief Nami

no, do it!

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

It might be possible that the leader and scout deaths prevented tony from beeing sent that night.

[FM X Drake]

I'm here

It's finally the weekends and I can be active :O

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

FM Dracule Mihawk

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

As I don't have much chance of winning on my own and I'm losing the will to continue just so I can get random killed at the end, I'll help town out.

I'm the last rebel. I was recruited on night 3. On night 4 I was sent to recruit Mihawk.


He's not a citizen. Accidentally deleted that part :P

Night 4 is the night the rebel scout and rebel leader both died.

Allow me to call something to everyone's attention:


Order of Operations:


Jailing
Architect picks up his 2 targets
Journalist Interviews
Night Chats Open
Bodyguard Protects
Veteran Alert
Witch Controls
Escort / Consort Blocks / Enforcing
Lookout / Detective Actions
Bus Driving
Framing
Investigations /Spy Report
Electro Maniac charging
Killing Actions / Dousing / Electrocution/ Jailor Executes
Disguises take effect
Rebel Recruiting / Blacksmith gives out armor/gun
Autopsies / Healing
Cleaning / Grave Robbing
Blackmailing / Ventiloquist controls / Drugs Take Effect
Amnesiac Remembers His Role / Student Chooses Mentor
Jailor Releases
Joker picks his new target
Skyper sends his message
Publishing a Newspaper

Assuming Tony is telling the truth, Tony never reached me. His leader was dead before he could give him the order to recruit me.


this is good. we may have found scum. dracule was the first person to push my lynch.

You made a scum slip. I picked up on it and pushed on it. This is how town is supposed to play instead of depending on investigative roles and night actions which are all unreliable at best, and actively trying to confuse/kill us at worst.

You came up with a suitable defense and I have supported you ever since, even when Zoro attempted to discredit you. I do not see why you would turn on me now unless you are vented.

[FM Fire Fist Ace]

Will a rebel still be sent to recruit if the leader and scout dies on the same night?

[FM Soul King Brook]

It might be possible that the leader and scout deaths prevented tony from beeing sent that night.

this is true! stop the lynch train. rebels can only recruit with leader and deaths are before recruits

[FM Tony Tony Chopper]

It might be possible that the leader and scout deaths prevented tony from beeing sent that night.
No, I got feedback and I was specifically sent instead of Whitebeard.

@Mihawk

Are you trying to lynch Ace because you know he is the pirate captain from witching or...?