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RLVG
February 14th, 2013, 09:00 AM
S-FM Data!

There existed a nerd who only lurked in the internet doing his stuff, he enjoyed to get software and games for free. After he finished downloading that torrent from lolyoupiratestuff, the computer started to lag.

After the nerd had discovered that the computer is full of virus, he decided to start up multiple anti-virus programs before going to sleep in a ragequit style.

Shortcut to the days :
Day Two (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/17300-S-FM-61-Data?p=279095&viewfull=1#post279095)
Day Three (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/17300-S-FM-61-Data?p=279922&viewfull=1#post279922)
Day Four (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/17300-S-FM-61-Data?p=280900&viewfull=1#post280900)
VICTORY (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/17300-S-FM-61-Data?p=282567&viewfull=1#post282567)

Click here for the full setup! (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/16973-S-FM-Data?p=273001&viewfull=1#post273001)



Players!

Cryptonic
TheDarkestLight
Bunny
Agent K
Slaol
Espozito
NoctiZ
Fatalis
Orpz
MintBerry Crunch



Setup :

- Hidden Town
- Hidden Town
- Hidden Town
- Hidden Town
- Hidden Town
- Hidden Town
- Mafia Killer
- Hidden Mafia
- Hidden Mafia
- Hidden Neutral Killer



Rules :
- Don't talk about the game outside of this thread. (Skype, rep, etc)
- You must have posted at least three times to not get modkilled.
- Do not delete or edit any posts.
- Questions may be asked in Green.
- Votes to lynch will be done in red text, code or not.



Notes :

The Virus don't know eachothers identity, they cannot attack eachothers.
A vote hammer doesn't end the day, victim may talk until officialy dead.
There won't be more then two of the same role.



Can't lynch on Day One.


The day ends at 17:00 GMT+1, 15th February. (click for a link) (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=17%3A00+GMT%2B1+15.02.2013)




DAY ONE!

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 09:00 AM
Just on time, gotta get that first post in.

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 09:09 AM
hello everyone, i'm an important town power role.

Bunny
February 14th, 2013, 09:09 AM
HELLLLO.

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 09:12 AM
hello everyone, i'm an important town power role.
believable

Bunny
February 14th, 2013, 09:15 AM
believable

NAAAAAAT

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 09:16 AM
believable

god, i sure hope so


NAAAAAAT

HAPPY V-DAY BUNNY!

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 09:17 AM
NAAAAAAT
You did not have to say that for me

Agent K
February 14th, 2013, 09:18 AM
I don't believe Cryptonic.

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 09:20 AM
I don't believe Cryptonic.
Why? He claimed it, so it must be true.

Bunny
February 14th, 2013, 09:22 AM
ahahah i'm an important town power role !

CRYPTONIC <3 HAPPY VALENTIMES DAY! I LOVE YOU!

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 09:23 AM
I don't believe Cryptonic.

i'm super important and easily provable, i just hope i don't die tonight because of that.

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 09:23 AM
I also am an important town role.

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 09:24 AM
See, now we're making progress. Doctor has 3 different targets now.

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 09:24 AM
ahahah i'm an important town power role !
Ok, confirmed town so far:

Cryptonic
Bunny
NoctiZ

most likely scum: Agent K

ggnore

Agent K
February 14th, 2013, 09:26 AM
Cryptonics says we are making progress when we are not.

Bunny
February 14th, 2013, 09:27 AM
agent k def scum.

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 09:27 AM
i bet NoctiZ is scum, just sayin'

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 09:28 AM
this is my list so far:

Cryptonic
TheDarkestLight
Bunny
Agent K
Slaol
Espozito
NoctiZ
Fatalis
Orpz
MintBerry Crunch

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 09:31 AM
You try to get my alignment by reading my Day 0 posts? Try again later.

Bunny
February 14th, 2013, 09:31 AM
thats true he prolly is. Being so chummy, i see right through it.

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 09:33 AM
You try to get my alignment by reading my Day 0 posts? Try again later.

Too confident, probably gf or neutral killer!
Also, buddying with me saying we're confirmed town when there is no way to know that! *gasp* all the pieces are falling into place.

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 09:40 AM
Too confident, probably gf or neutral killer!
Also, buddying with me saying we're confirmed town when there is no way to know that! *gasp* all the pieces are falling into place.
You see right through me. I just can't hide my real role from my beloved darling!

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 09:41 AM
You see right through me. I just can't hide my real role from my beloved darling!

oh u :shy:

Agent K
February 14th, 2013, 10:04 AM
What is day 0 for? There is no jailor.

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 10:07 AM
What is day 0 for? There is no jailor.

day 0 is important for finding out intentions and night action targets.

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 10:16 AM
day 0 is important for finding out intentions and night action targets.
Yep, but for a short time after the start many people (especially me) like to talk trash. Some even say that Day 0 is troll day, but as a wise man once said: "Even Day 0 has important information." .. or something like that. Who was that again?

Either Damus or Blazer, I think. Who knows. But I remember that Blazer trolled that game being a shitizen, so.. where's my point? I forgot it myself.

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 10:19 AM
Oh yeah, I think it may have been the Marshmallow game. Could be wrong though.

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 10:20 AM
I've wonder why NoctiZ has a man crush on Damus.

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 10:23 AM
I've wonder why NoctiZ has a man crush on Damus.
How did you come to that conclusion? Not saying it's true, because it's not. Just seems like a sympathetic guy? Bonus points because I see him everywhere.

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 10:24 AM
Just observations ;)
Are you SpiritBoy? LOOOOL

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 10:25 AM
Just observations ;)
Are you SpiritBoy? LOOOOL
Referring to another user? If so, no. This is my first account on here. ;P

Slaol
February 14th, 2013, 10:37 AM
OH HAI!!! I have work in just a bit, so I can't dick around in here as much as I'd like atm. However, based on what I know about people in here... ggnore Town win.

Slaol
Cryptonic
Bunny

NoctiZ
Agent K

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 10:47 AM
Slaol is just saying Town wins to lull us into a sense of false safety while he weaves webs in the background, making us lose.
I got my eye on you.

Slaol
February 14th, 2013, 10:48 AM
Yep, but for a short time after the start many people (especially me) like to talk trash. Some even say that Day 0 is troll day, but as a wise man once said: "Even Day 0 has important information." .. or something like that. Who was that again?

Either Damus or Blazer, I think. Who knows. But I remember that Blazer trolled that game being a shitizen, so.. where's my point? I forgot it myself.

You need better wise men. Every FM starts months before Day 0 dude.

Slaol
February 14th, 2013, 10:49 AM
Slaol is just saying Town wins to lull us into a sense of false safety while he weaves webs in the background, making us lose.
I got my eye on you.

Good! I'm glad. Be back later.

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 11:05 AM
You need better wise men. Every FM starts months before Day 0 dude.
Obvious attempt to make me unsure of my ways. So scummy.

Agent K
February 14th, 2013, 11:12 AM
day 0 is important for finding out intentions and night action targets.
I intend to make sure that Cryptonic is an importan town PR.

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 11:16 AM
I intend to make sure that Cryptonic is an importan town PR.
Sounds scummy.

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 11:21 AM
I intend to make sure that Cryptonic is an importan town PR.

:love: thanks bb!

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 12:47 PM
Shit guys.. can we get some talking in here? I'm bored. We probably won't get very far with accusing each other today, so atleast let's entertain each other? Pwetty pwease?:$

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 12:56 PM
Well we can't pressure today without voting :(

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 12:58 PM
Well we can't pressure today without voting :(
Yeah, but we can always talk.. :wondering:

RLVG
February 14th, 2013, 02:23 PM
Friendly reminder, you need to have posted at least three times to not be consindered for a replacement or modkill.

I'm sending a PM to those who haven't posted yet that the game has started.

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 02:29 PM
I need Count von Count in here to check my post count.

RLVG
February 14th, 2013, 02:34 PM
I need Count von Count in here to check my post count.

A small error, I copied the playerlist so everyone has received the same PM. It's only a reminder the game has started, so it has caused no damage. :cheesy:

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 02:39 PM
I wasn't referring to your PM, just making a joke, ya know.

TheDarkestLight
February 14th, 2013, 03:27 PM
I am a white person. This alone makes me Town.

Any further questions must be asked in Yellow.

NoctiZ
February 14th, 2013, 03:29 PM
​Like a person?

TheDarkestLight
February 14th, 2013, 03:32 PM
​Like a person?

My reply to that is that drugs are bad. Don't do drugs. Cause drugs are bad, and bad people do drugs. Mmmkay?

Orpz
February 14th, 2013, 04:14 PM
Hi guys I'm more important than Crypt

Scum prediction:
.
.
.
Actually I had a list but I don't want to being tipping off scum to other scum, so I'll just reveal the one person I think is scum

Agent K

Jim
February 14th, 2013, 04:25 PM
I am Jester.
That is all.

Orpz
February 14th, 2013, 04:26 PM
Mintberry Crunch

Jim
February 14th, 2013, 04:26 PM
Mintberry Crunch

Ur scum.

Jim
February 14th, 2013, 04:26 PM
Post #3

Orpz
February 14th, 2013, 04:27 PM
3rdpost.

ty Mint

Orpz
February 14th, 2013, 04:39 PM
I intend to make sure that Cryptonic is an importan town PR.

Agent K claims Consigliere

Agent K


Godfather
Mafia killer, Mafioso says "Game won't start with one" on setup, and Fabricator is gay af
Consigliere
Agent K is one
Framer

Buffed Framer.
Electromaniac

Buffed Electromaniac.

A random generator will be used when determining random and chance.
nah

RLVG
February 14th, 2013, 05:00 PM
nah

Here's the random generation I've performed, minus the finished product.
The finished product will be released when the game is over.





THE TOWN!!!
Citizen
Citizen
Spy
Spy
Sheriff
Sheriff
Investigator
Investigator
Escort
Escort
Doctor
Doctor
Bodyguard
Bodyguard
Bus Driver
Bus Driver
Lookout
Lookout
Detective
Detective
Coroner
Coroner
Blacksmith
Blacksmith
Vigilante
Vigilante
Veteran
Veteran

THE MAFIA!!!
Drug Dealer
Drug Dealer
Janitor
Janitor
Kidnapper
Kidnapper
Consort
Consort
Framer
Framer
Consigliere
Consigliere
Actress
Actress

THE MAFIA KILLER!!!
Godfather
Fabricator

THE NEUTRAL KILLER!!!
Serial Killer
Electromaniac
Arsonist
Spree Killer


Format :

1. Randomise it all
2. Take the top 6 town as the town.
3. Take the top 2 mafia as the mafia.
4. Take the top 1 mafia killer as the Mafia killer.
5. Take the top 1 neutral as the neutral killer.

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 05:02 PM
No you didn't. there are 2 citizens for suare!

Slaol
February 14th, 2013, 05:38 PM
BATMAN RETURNS!!!!!

Cryptonic
February 14th, 2013, 05:40 PM
BATMAN RETURNS!!!!!

wtf how'd you know, i have invisible mode on

Slaol
February 14th, 2013, 05:40 PM
I am Jester.
That is all.

:|

Slaol
February 14th, 2013, 05:41 PM
wtf how'd you know, i have invisible mode on

Well, if I revealed how I knew when you were on I wouldn't have unfair advantages, now would I?

Orpz
February 14th, 2013, 07:27 PM
:|

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Espozito
February 14th, 2013, 08:11 PM
Morning everyone... I'm coffeed with 3 cups of dis drink and am steadily goin'. I've spent the last night without sleeping, was making homework: reading (for fuck sake!!!) 155 pages of E. Zamyazin's "We" (the book wich the "Equilibrium is based on, but their plots are really different). Got a head-ache now. Give me a minute...
Read the whole 4 pages, not much for info for me as I'm bad at speech-analisation. Also since scum don't know each other identities, my BH is absolutely useless...

Since that, I'll just try to predict the possible role list:

Anti-Virus
- Hidden Town - Sheriff (classical)
- Hidden Town - Doctor (classical x2)
- Hidden Town - Blacksmith (never played in a setup with this role, I think RLVG would use it)
- Hidden Town - Detective/Lookout (tracking rulez)
- Hidden Town - Citizen (to make 2 of them) or Vigilante/Veteran/Bus Driver (to fuck up the town and give the role to some new player)
- Hidden Town - Citizen (there always is at least one)

Virus
- Mafia Killer - Godfather (because there's no Godmother, bulletproof logic tbh)
- Hidden Mafia - Consort (to acha-acha) / Consigliere (to inform)
- Hidden Mafia - Drug Dealer (because I love pills and I hope RLVG loves pills too) / Fabricator (to mess up the town)

Worm
- Hidden Neutral Killer - any role but not Serial Killer imo (too obv and 2 KPN ruins the game to be extremely short). 40% Arsonist, 41% Electromaniac, 18% Spree Killer, 1% Serial Killer

That's all I can say for now, I guess.

Espozito
February 14th, 2013, 08:11 PM
I hate ponies...

Agent K
February 14th, 2013, 09:05 PM
If there is no night chats, can people send in night actions now so that we can skip night?

Orpz
February 14th, 2013, 09:17 PM
If there is no night chats, can people send in night actions now so that we can skip night?

Scummy question

Agent K
February 14th, 2013, 09:26 PM
Scummy question

Orpz is mad because I thought about it first.

Orpz
February 14th, 2013, 09:30 PM
sry i'm actually mad because i'm Executioner with you as my target but today is no lynch

Fatalis
February 15th, 2013, 03:14 AM
Hello everyone, please give me a moment to catch up. I was literally walking non-stop for like 6 hours today.

Fatalis
February 15th, 2013, 03:21 AM
Through my um.. awesome skills I have deduced that no mafia have posted yet. Thank you very much.

NoctiZ
February 15th, 2013, 04:02 AM
Through my um.. awesome skills I have deduced that no mafia have posted yet. Thank you very much.

Please enlight us, oh almighty Fatalis.

Espozito
February 15th, 2013, 04:22 AM
1. It's a troll day
2. I need the third message to be posted else I'll be deleted.
3. I have no clues.

So:

OMG, WEV GOT DAFUCKIN METERITE RTAIN RIGHT NOW!!!!! PMGOMGOGMG!!!!!!!!!!!

NoctiZ
February 15th, 2013, 04:40 AM
I always think of day 0 as pretty enjoying because not much can be taken seriously. Which is why I think my infraction is not rightful, but hey, it's just 1 point, just gotta be careful of what I say in the future.

Fatalis
February 15th, 2013, 04:47 AM
1. It's a troll day
2. I need the third message to be posted else I'll be deleted.
3. I have no clues.

So:

OMG, WEV GOT DAFUCKIN METERITE RTAIN RIGHT NOW!!!!! PMGOMGOGMG!!!!!!!!!!!

Scum

Espozito
February 15th, 2013, 04:59 AM
Scum


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU7MrsLM6aY

NoctiZ
February 15th, 2013, 05:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU7MrsLM6aY
Pls no russian

Espozito
February 15th, 2013, 05:21 AM
Pls no russian

Just look at that awesome meteor!!!

NoctiZ
February 15th, 2013, 05:22 AM
Just look at that awesome meteor!!!
IT'S BURNING MY SKIN!

NoctiZ
February 15th, 2013, 05:32 AM
I need to go to school again, my 3h break is over. Cya 1 hour before day end! :D

Cryptonic
February 15th, 2013, 06:50 AM
Espozito is scummy :3

Espozito
February 15th, 2013, 07:38 AM
Espozito is scummy :3

How can you judge of someone's scummbess on trololo day? XD
Btw, I seem to be the only person today who has contributed about the role list o_O

Cryptonic
February 15th, 2013, 07:41 AM
How can you judge of someone's scummbess on trololo day? XD
Btw, I seem to be the only person today who has contributed about the role list o_O

you just shown me how right here again in this post.

>Trying to be helpful.
>Claims it's troll day.
>Being Helping = Trolling?
>You're scum.

Espozito
February 15th, 2013, 07:44 AM
you just shown me how right here again in this post.

>Trying to be helpful.
>Claims it's troll day.
>Being Helping = Trolling?
>You're scum.

I had to make 3 posts, but though I want to be more contributive (when i was a troll, everyone thought I am scum once again).
1. Contribution
2. Personal opinion about ponies
3. Goddamn meteor apocalypse!!!

Trololo! No more help from me then, at least for today. Espo out.

Orpz
February 15th, 2013, 07:48 AM
ah, the good old personal opinion about ponies post

Cryptonic
February 15th, 2013, 07:51 AM
I had to make 3 posts, but though I want to be more contributive (when i was a troll, everyone thought I am scum once again).
1. Contribution
2. Personal opinion about ponies
3. Goddamn meteor apocalypse!!!

Trololo! No more help from me then, at least for today. Espo out.



Flees topc when under pressure to avoid more scum slips!
I'm checking Espozito tonight.

RLVG
February 15th, 2013, 07:59 AM
If there is no night chats, can people send in night actions now so that we can skip night?

The day and night is on a schedule to always last 24 hours each, that's why a lynch hammer does not end a day.



In other news, the day ends in a hour.

NoctiZ
February 15th, 2013, 08:10 AM
I'm glad, because you are in my time zone and I do not feel so left out now.

​RLVG FOR PRESIDENT

Espozito
February 15th, 2013, 08:30 AM
Flees topc when under pressure to avoid more scum slips!
I'm checking Espozito tonight.

Thank you for revealing that you are investigative role. Suggestions: Sheriff, Lookout. 2$ for Sheriff.
Thanks for playing, Crypt =D

NoctiZ
February 15th, 2013, 08:41 AM
Thank you for revealing that you are investigative role. Suggestions: Sheriff, Lookout. 2$ for Sheriff.
Thanks for playing, Crypt =D
Fake claim to attract scum. Probably vet.

RLVG
February 15th, 2013, 09:00 AM
The Day has ended!

The anti-virus has started their process in finding and eleminating the virus.
The Virus has started the process in finding a way to dominate the computer!
The Worm has started the process of finding a loophole to "yo dawg" itself.



Night One!

Friendly reminder :
- Any killing role may leave a death note.
- You may add a Last Will by PMing the host.

The night ends at this time. (Click me!) (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=17%3A00+GMT%2B1+16.02.2013)

RLVG
February 16th, 2013, 09:02 AM
The Night has ended!



The computer had lag due to all the process going on.
The Virus could not delete an anti-virus program and the Anti-virus couldn't neutralize a virus.

Shit happens with freeware.



Events :
Warnings has been given out, reason will be anonymous to the game for now.
A shortcut to Day Two (and future days) has been added to the first post.



I received a question in PM.
Since it's possible to keep talking after a hammer, are there multiple lynches?
- There's only one lynch per day. This mechanic remains to keep the 24 hour Day / Night cycle uninterupted.


Alive players :
- Cryptonic
- TheDarkestLight
- Bunny
- Agent K
- Slaol
- Espozito
- NoctiZ
- Fatalis
- Orpz
- MintBerry Crunch



Day Two has started!
THE DAY ENDS AT THIS TIME! (Click me) (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=17%3A00+GMT%2B1+17.02.2013)

6 votes to lynch.

NoctiZ
February 16th, 2013, 09:05 AM
Good day everyone.

Bunny
February 16th, 2013, 09:06 AM
Hellllo hello! interesting! no one died.

Espozito
February 16th, 2013, 09:10 AM
Good morning vietnam.
The most interesting first: I was bus-driven. According to the setup, we may have a Drug Dealer here, right?
So, I need to know if someone else was switched.

Cryptonic
February 16th, 2013, 09:18 AM
Good morning vietnam.
The most interesting first: I was bus-driven. According to the setup, we may have a Drug Dealer here, right?
So, I need to know if someone else was switched.

ooo
i was not bussed. good morning ppl I guess scum found scum and the killing neutral = arsonist

Agent K
February 16th, 2013, 09:46 AM
Agent K reporting in. I was also Bus driven.

Orpz
February 16th, 2013, 10:48 AM
I was bus driven too. It's a good thing, now we have a lead.

It's just I find it more likely that Agent K/Esp (more likely Agent K) is lying than the fact that there is a Bus Driver + Drug Dealer. Odd that the Drug Dealer would take a risk that would tip off his presence Day 2.

Agent K

I intend to make sure that Cryptonic is an importan town PR.
I would like to hear more about this

Espozito
February 16th, 2013, 10:58 AM
Nonono, I rather find it senseful that there are both DD and BD. That would totally make a mess like we have now. One of us was drugged, the only thing to find out is: who exactly? I'm afraid BD should reveal, but that's not a good plan for now. If anyone has another good plan, come up with it.

Jim
February 16th, 2013, 11:42 AM
I didn't die last night.

Espozito
February 16th, 2013, 12:11 PM
Alright, to clear the things up, the bus driver should reveal himself I guess and tell whom he did swap.

Orpz
February 16th, 2013, 01:34 PM
I just noticed something....

Why are you so sure it's a bus driver and not a kidnapper?
After all, Crypt said he was going to check you; a Bus Driver wouldn't swap you.

Espozito

NoctiZ
February 16th, 2013, 01:37 PM
Do you know if you were kidnapped? If so, what is the message one gets?

Orpz
February 16th, 2013, 01:42 PM
OH I assumed you get the same bus driven message if you were kidnapped.
I apologize if you get a different message

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 01:43 PM
I HAVE INFORMATION RELEVENT TO OUR INTERESTS!!!'

NoctiZ
February 16th, 2013, 01:47 PM
I HAVE INFORMATION RELEVENT TO OUR INTERESTS!!!'
Spit it out.

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 01:48 PM
I AM WAITING FOR SOMEONE!!!!!'

NoctiZ
February 16th, 2013, 01:49 PM
I AM WAITING FOR SOMEONE!!!!!'
For a certain person you already know, or for a role?

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 01:50 PM
I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO BE AWARE THAT I HAVE RELEVANT INFORMATION TO BE TOLD IN A BIT!!!! I THINK WE SHOULD WAIT FOR THE BUS DRIVER TO REVEAL SELF. THAT, OR I HAVE MOAR RELEVANT INFORMATION

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 01:50 PM
For a certain person you already know, or for a role?

ONE OF EACH!!!!

RLVG
February 16th, 2013, 01:52 PM
Do you know if you were kidnapped? If so, what is the message one gets?

A kidnapper is the Mafia version of Bus Driver, you'll receive a notification that you have been bus driven.

Cryptonic
February 16th, 2013, 03:37 PM
what's your major malfunction, slaol?

Cryptonic
February 16th, 2013, 03:38 PM
Also, Agent K, anything to report?

Bunny
February 16th, 2013, 03:39 PM
what's your major malfunction, slaol?

his circuits dead, theres something wrong.

NoctiZ
February 16th, 2013, 03:40 PM
Okay you two, since you seem to be back from whatever, ​can you add something to the whole bus driven/kidnapping situation?

Bunny
February 16th, 2013, 03:42 PM
i think its evident there is a town bd and a kidnapper.

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 03:50 PM
what's your major malfunction, slaol?

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO ALREADY KNOWS OF MY MALFUNCTION BEFORE STATING IT!!!!


i think its evident there is a town bd and a kidnapper.

BUS DRIVER / KIDNAPPER / DRUG DEALER. WE NEED ANOTHER BUSSED FEEDBACK TO CONFIRM HAVING BOTH. (unless I missed one) I FIND YOUR POST INTERESTING BUNNY!

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 03:51 PM
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO ALREADY KNOWS OF MY MALFUNCTION BEFORE STATING IT!!!!



BUS DRIVER / KIDNAPPER / DRUG DEALER. WE NEED ANOTHER BUSSED FEEDBACK TO CONFIRM HAVING BOTH. (unless I missed one) I FIND YOUR POST INTERESTING BUNNY!

FIX'D!!!

Fatalis
February 16th, 2013, 03:52 PM
I'm Bus Driven as well :O

Bunny
February 16th, 2013, 03:53 PM
[/SIZE]

FIX'D!!!

i find yours oversized!

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 03:55 PM
i find yours oversized!

WUT SHE SAID!!!

Fatalis
February 16th, 2013, 03:55 PM
I sense a disturbance in the force. One of us who is online here is a scum

NoctiZ
February 16th, 2013, 03:56 PM
Bus Driver, if the claims do not fit, then please state so, it will help.

As of now, we can assume that there is a Kidnapper and a Bus Driver.

Fatalis
February 16th, 2013, 03:59 PM
I bet you guys 100$ the neutral is an Arsonist

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 04:01 PM
I bet you guys 100$ the neutral is an Arsonist

I FIND THIS COMMENT INTERESTING TO SAY THE LEAST!!!!

Fatalis
February 16th, 2013, 04:03 PM
I FIND THIS COMMENT INTERESTING TO SAY THE LEAST!!!!
I'm obviously the Arsonist so I know it

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 04:03 PM
I just noticed something....

Why are you so sure it's a bus driver and not a kidnapper?
After all, Crypt said he was going to check you; a Bus Driver wouldn't swap you.

Espozito

I ACTUALLY FIND THIS TO MAKE A LOT OF SENSE!!!!! I SUGGEST THIS PRESSURE!!!!!!

Espozito

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 04:04 PM
I'm obviously the Arsonist so I know it

I JUST MIGHT KILL YOU TONIGHT FATALIS!!!!!!!

NoctiZ
February 16th, 2013, 04:05 PM
Espozito

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 04:05 PM
I JUST MIGHT KILL YOU TONIGHT FATALIS!!!!!!!

I FIND THIS POST INTERESTING TO SAY THE MOST!!!!!

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 04:06 PM
RLVG!!! L2HOST, THE LYNCH NUMBER IS AT 5, BUT 6 IS MAJORITY!!!!!

Fatalis
February 16th, 2013, 04:06 PM
I JUST MIGHT KILL YOU TONIGHT FATALIS!!!!!!!

Your welcome,
Espozito

Yes it's probably a bad idea but. FOR SPARTA

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 04:07 PM
RLVG!!! L2HOST, THE LYNCH NUMBER IS AT 5, BUT 6 IS MAJORITY!!!!!

ALSO!!! THE VOTES TO LYNCH NUMBER DIDN'T ACTUALLY WORK!!! TRY AGAIN!!!

RLVG
February 16th, 2013, 04:07 PM
RLVG!!! L2HOST, THE LYNCH NUMBER IS AT 5, BUT 6 IS MAJORITY!!!!!

10 divide on 2 = 5.:|


ALSO!!! THE VOTES TO LYNCH NUMBER DIDN'T ACTUALLY WORK!!! TRY AGAIN!!!

That's because I read the votes manualy.

Fatalis
February 16th, 2013, 04:08 PM
10 divide on 2 = 5.:|
We use MAJORITY for lynching, ErAlVeeGee

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 04:09 PM
10 divide on 2 = 5.:|



That's because I read the votes manualy.

THIS MEANS THAT 2 GROUPS OF PEOPLE MAY EACH LYNCH AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON!!! LYNCH NUMBER NEEDS MAJORITY!!! (#/2)+1 = LYNCH NUMBER!!!!!

NoctiZ
February 16th, 2013, 04:10 PM
THIS MEANS THAT 2 GROUPS OF PEOPLE MAY EACH LYNCH AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON!!! LYNCH NUMBER NEEDS MAJORITY!!! (#/2)+1 = LYNCH NUMBER!!!!!
Well he said that there is only one lynch per day, so the faster group gets the lynch? :D

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 04:11 PM
HOST!! FIX BRAKED SETTINGS PLEAZE!!!!!!

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 04:12 PM
UNVOTE

BECAUSE BROKEN SETTINGS!!!

NoctiZ
February 16th, 2013, 04:13 PM
UNVOTE

BECAUSE BROKEN SETTINGS!!!
Now that I don't get, it's not like this thread will close even if 5 votes are reached. RLVG is counting them manually. And, additionally, isn't a lynch what we want actually? I don't see a big deal here for now, RLVG can change it on the fly.

RLVG
February 16th, 2013, 04:15 PM
Fine, it's now 6 votes for a lynch. (My mistake) 8)
I will still read the votes in shape of red text.

Orpz
February 16th, 2013, 04:23 PM
Train lynch Esp! I want my Exec win!

Esp may not necessarily be Kidnapper (seems like it though), but rather a Kidnapper could have swapped him to protect him from Crypt. Either way I think it's safe to assume the presence of a Kidnapper.

NoctiZ
February 16th, 2013, 04:26 PM
Train lynch Esp! I want my Exec win!

Esp may not necessarily be Kidnapper (seems like it though), but rather a Kidnapper could have swapped him to protect him from Crypt. Either way I think it's safe to assume the presence of a Kidnapper.
I forgot that the Virus do not know their identity (wtf NoctiZ), so yeah, I'm gonna unvote

Espozito

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 04:29 PM
I forgot that the Virus do not know their identity (wtf NoctiZ), so yeah, I'm gonna unvote

Espozito

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS COMMENT!!! PLEASE EXPLAIN!!!!

Fatalis
February 16th, 2013, 04:30 PM
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS COMMENT!!! PLEASE EXPLAIN!!!!
Virus don't know each other, Mr.Slaol

NoctiZ
February 16th, 2013, 04:31 PM
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THIS COMMENT!!! PLEASE EXPLAIN!!!!
Really?

Kidnapper switched Espozito with someone else to lay suspicion on him. Creed claimed he would investigate Espozito, so I wonder now, did the Kidnapper switch Espozito with himself?
Anyway, since the Kidnapper does not know the identity of his teammate's the switch was not to protect Espozito, but to harm him. That's my guess and enough for me to unvote.

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 04:32 PM
Virus don't know each other, Mr.Slaol

I SHOULD REALLY HAVE READ SETUP!!!!!!

NoctiZ
February 16th, 2013, 04:32 PM
I wish editing one's post would not be forbidden/frowned upon, I did the biggest mistake of my life..
teammate's It's obviously "teammates". I am so sorry.

Fatalis
February 16th, 2013, 04:33 PM
Really?

Kidnapper switched Espozito with someone else to lay suspicion on him. Creed claimed he would investigate Espozito, so I wonder now, did the Kidnapper switch Espozito with himself?
Anyway, since the Kidnapper does not know the identity of his teammate's the switch was not to protect Espozito, but to harm him. That's my guess and enough for me to unvote.
I'll keep my vote on him since I was the first who suspected him since the first day

Fatalis
February 16th, 2013, 04:33 PM
I SHOULD REALLY HAVE READ SETUP!!!!!!

Yes you should

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 04:34 PM
Yes you should

I AM MOSTLY KILLING TIME, and Fatalis, UNTIL FM XVII!!!!!1

Orpz
February 16th, 2013, 04:54 PM
SIZE 7 FONT PARTY
I see what you mean noctiz.
but it makes more sense if kidnapper was protecting him because crypt called out his scumslip day 0.
I want to hear more from Esp before removing my vote.

also i suggest reading boom town posts while we wait. good shit going down with rozen and ika trolling damus

Agent K
February 16th, 2013, 05:57 PM
I'm checking Espozito tonight.


Also, Agent K, anything to report?

You are not reporting your findings and therefore probably not as important as you thought you were. I didn't check you last night.
And with all these bus claims, I doubt any investigative role can get a decent read without the bus driver(s) speaking up, and to make it all worse, kidnappers might be in play still messing us up. But if I rely on my gut, I say Slaol is scum for spamming in huge letters yelling at host instead of focusing on the players.

-Vote Slaol

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 06:01 PM
You are not reporting your findings and therefore probably not as important as you thought you were. I didn't check you last night.
And with all these bus claims, I doubt any investigative role can get a decent read without the bus driver(s) speaking up, and to make it all worse, kidnappers might be in play still messing us up. But if I rely on my gut, I say Slaol is scum for spamming in huge letters yelling at host instead of focusing on the players.

-Vote Slaol

WOOOHOHOHOHO!!!!!! LOOK WHAT WE HAVE HERE NOW!!!!!

Agent K
February 16th, 2013, 06:03 PM
WOOOHOHOHOHO!!!!!! LOOK WHAT WE HAVE HERE NOW!!!!!

Looks like another filler post.

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 06:07 PM
Looks like another filler post.

PLEASE VIEW THE AVATAR AND L2P!!!! BUT!! BEYOND THAT AGENT K SEEMS TO HAVE CLAIMED TO HAVE CHECKED SOMEONE, BUT NOT POINT OUT ANY INFORMATION!!!!!!! SCUMMY!

Fatalis
February 16th, 2013, 06:23 PM
I regret what I have done

Orpz
February 16th, 2013, 06:27 PM
I intend to make sure that Cryptonic is an importan town PR.

I didn't check you last night.

:|

Orpz
February 16th, 2013, 06:29 PM
Agent K

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 06:33 PM
:|

THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT!!!!

Agent K

Agent K
February 16th, 2013, 06:45 PM
[SIZE=6]PLEASE VIEW THE AVATAR AND L2P!!!!

Scummy
Pointless
Annoying
Mafia

Cryptonic
February 16th, 2013, 07:00 PM
You are not reporting your findings and therefore probably not as important as you thought you were. I didn't check you last night.
And with all these bus claims, I doubt any investigative role can get a decent read without the bus driver(s) speaking up, and to make it all worse, kidnappers might be in play still messing us up. But if I rely on my gut, I say Slaol is scum for spamming in huge letters yelling at host instead of focusing on the players.

-Vote Slaol


lol just cause i'm not the pr i said i am, doesn't mean i'm not a pr :)

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 07:08 PM
Scummy
Pointless
Annoying
Mafia

NICE COUNTERACCUSE!!! L2P!!!

Slaol
February 16th, 2013, 07:10 PM
I regret what I have done

OH AAWRE WE NOAW!

Fatalis
February 16th, 2013, 07:11 PM
OH AAWRE WE NOAW!

Wat

RLVG
February 16th, 2013, 07:39 PM
Day Event :

Slaol has become MODKILLED for violating the rules.
Reason : Skyping (Voice Chat), revealed his actions and role!!!

The incident were reported via PM, thank you.

Slaol were the Electromaniac!



Alive players :
- Cryptonic
- TheDarkestLight
- Bunny
- Agent K
- Espozito
- NoctiZ
- Fatalis
- Orpz
- MintBerry Crunch

RLVG
February 16th, 2013, 08:12 PM
If anyone are going to ask, no the day has not been stopped. The players may talk.

Agent K
February 16th, 2013, 08:16 PM
L2P!!!



[B]Slaol has become MODKILLED for violating the rules.


:huh: maybe you should learn to play first

[COLOR="#FF0000"]-unvote

Fatalis
February 16th, 2013, 08:38 PM
I regret what I have done

LOLOLOLOLOL SLAOL

Fatalis
February 16th, 2013, 08:40 PM
Let's wait for TDL to post, every game I play with him he is scum. Odds are he is scum now. Am I right? /logic

Agent K
February 16th, 2013, 09:03 PM
TDL had less than minimum posts yesterday. Most likely one of the ones warned. His posts were very vague and spammy. If he doesn't change his behavior today, I would be willing to vote him.

Orpz
February 16th, 2013, 09:39 PM
Agent K trying too hard to redirect
Agent K sheep after me and lynch him pls

Damus_Graves
February 16th, 2013, 09:56 PM
I wonder if I can post yet?

Espozito
February 16th, 2013, 11:46 PM
Guys, what the hell? I'm a victim, not a criminal!
Anyway, since we have 4 bd claims that means that we have both BD and KN.
I reveal myself as Detective.
Last night I targeted Fatalis and it shown me that he visited me! That could mean that he is the swapper, the only thing to find out is his alignment.

Orpz
February 17th, 2013, 12:19 AM
I believe your claim actually, that clears up a lot of stuff.

This is probably what went down last night:
Fatalis <-> Orpz
Espozito <-> Agent K

Jim
February 17th, 2013, 12:23 AM
Espozito
That was the most scummy thing I have read in my whole life.

Orpz
February 17th, 2013, 12:31 AM
have faith, Esp is most likely Town.
I'd say we get Agent K, he's purposely ignored everything except Slaol's banter.

Espozito
February 17th, 2013, 02:31 AM
Espozito
That was the most scummy thing I have read in my whole life.

I find no sense in your statement. Explain, please.

NoctiZ
February 17th, 2013, 03:52 AM
I find no sense in your statement. Explain, please.
My problem with your post:

At the beginning you said you could have been drugged (even thought the feedback was busdriven, interesting if you ask me).
You did not reveal your role and you did not reveal who you followed and that this person had visited you.

Now, after we find out we have a KN and a BD, you suddenly decide it's okay to reveal your role and that Fatalis has visited you. You have either revealed a scum or a town.
We can only pressure him, but we either waste our time (and maybe lose a townmember due to a mislynch), or we get very luck and kill the scum.

But the scummy thing about you is the timing of your post. I mean, by all you know, it could also be someone who is not a BD and not a KN, since you don't know if he is a investigator who checked on you. So why reveal now? Why like that? This is why you seem scummy, atleast from my point of view.


If we have a lookout and this someone saw who visited Espozito besides Fatalis, that would help, I guess.

Fatalis
February 17th, 2013, 03:55 AM
Guys, what the hell? I'm a victim, not a criminal!
Anyway, since we have 4 bd claims that means that we have both BD and KN.
I reveal myself as Detective.
Last night I targeted Fatalis and it shown me that he visited me! That could mean that he is the swapper, the only thing to find out is his alignment.

That was like the most stupid thing someone would do. You know you were BD and yet you reveal yourself >.>
By the way, I didn't visit you, my target wasn't one of the four people who claimed BD'd

Espozito

Fatalis
February 17th, 2013, 03:56 AM
That was like the most stupid thing someone would do. You know you were BD and yet you reveal yourself >.>
By the way, I didn't visit you, my target wasn't one of the four people who claimed BD'd

Espozito
And also I was BD'd, so obviously your results are wrong..

Fatalis
February 17th, 2013, 03:57 AM
O wait I already voted him :O When did that happen

RLVG
February 17th, 2013, 04:06 AM
If I read correctly, the current votes are :

Espozito : L3
- Fatalis
- MintBerry Crunch

Agent K : L4
- Orpz



Due to Slaol's modkill, the required amount of votes to lynch are 5.

There's a chance of a replacement.

Fatalis
February 17th, 2013, 04:53 AM
If I read correctly, the current votes are :

Espozito : L3
- Fatalis
- MintBerry Crunch

Agent K : L4
- Orpz



Due to Slaol's modkill, the required amount of votes to lynch are 5.

There's a chance of a replacement.
*slowly look at TDL*

Espozito
February 17th, 2013, 08:20 AM
That was like the most stupid thing someone would do. You know you were BD and yet you reveal yourself >.>
By the way, I didn't visit you, my target wasn't one of the four people who claimed BD'd

Espozito

Yes, I missed the thing that you were BDed too. But, as it was already stated, Crypt was going to check me as he said, and probably KN swapped me with another person to frame me... or something. That means that the person I tracked (the one whom you were swapped with, Fatalis) visited me to kidnap (Crypt claims not to been driven taht means he wasn't the person I tracked). I guess one of the BD claimers (not me and not Fatalis) is the Kidnapper.
That leaves us 2 suspiciants: Agent K and OrpZ. I wouldn't risk to lynch, but I have no choice, especially when the FoS list is shortened to 2 persons by the clues.

Starting with K. O is next.

Agent K

Roul?

RLVG
February 17th, 2013, 08:30 AM
The day ends in 30 minutes.

NoctiZ
February 17th, 2013, 08:31 AM
Yes, I missed the thing that you were BDed too. But, as it was already stated, Crypt was going to check me as he said, and probably KN swapped me with another person to frame me... or something. That means that the person I tracked (the one whom you were swapped with, Fatalis) visited me to kidnap (Crypt claims not to been driven taht means he wasn't the person I tracked). I guess one of the BD claimers (not me and not Fatalis) is the Kidnapper.
That leaves us 2 suspiciants: Agent K and OrpZ. I wouldn't risk to lynch, but I have no choice, especially when the FoS list is shortened to 2 persons by the clues.

Starting with K. O is next.

Agent K

Roul?
As I understand it, you tracked Fatalis, but Fatalis was busdriven, and the 4 people who were busdriven are you, AgentK, Fatalis and Orpz, is that right?

Espozito
February 17th, 2013, 08:35 AM
As I understand it, you tracked Fatalis, but Fatalis was busdriven, and the 4 people who were busdriven are you, AgentK, Fatalis and Orpz, is that right?

yes. And since there was no sense for the BD to drive me (cause of Crypt's possible investigation), I was probably kidnapped. And if the person who visited me was swapped with fatalis (cause I was checking fatalis), then one of the swapped is the kidnapper.

NoctiZ
February 17th, 2013, 08:37 AM
Alright, I got it.

I am a Spy.

The only targets who were visited by the Mafia are Espozito and AgentK.
They were kidnapped, and the other two Mafias made no action. This is the only conclusion after the 4 busdriven claims.

This means that, if Espozito really did track Fatalis as Detective, he actually tracked Orpz because they were switched.

Result: Orpz is Kidnapper!

Orpz

NoctiZ
February 17th, 2013, 08:42 AM
Even if it is very likely that we can not get the lynch on Orpz today, atleast town will know what to do now.

Orpz being the kidnapper is the only logical result we get if we assume that Espozito is indeed Detective, and as far as that goes, it doesn't seem to be wrong.

Ofcourse, either my or Espozito's life are in danger now, but I hope that my reveal was not in vain.

Espozito
February 17th, 2013, 08:46 AM
Alright, I got it.

I am a Spy.

The only targets who were visited by the Mafia are Espozito and AgentK.
They were kidnapped, and the other two Mafias made no action. This is the only conclusion after the 4 busdriven claims.

This means that, if Espozito really did track Fatalis as Detective, he actually tracked Orpz because they were switched.

Result: Orpz is Kidnapper!

Orpz

Excellent job! Now the puzzle is solved!

OrpZ

Orpz
February 17th, 2013, 08:55 AM
I visited Agent K, why do you think I was confident who got switched with who?

I am Town.

Orpz
February 17th, 2013, 08:58 AM
Also, there should have been at least 3 targets, since Mafia Killing probably hit another Mafia

Espozito
February 17th, 2013, 08:58 AM
I visited Agent K, why do you think I was confident who got switched with who?

I am Town.

You visited me and I got kidnapped. Got enough clues for now.

NoctiZ
February 17th, 2013, 08:59 AM
I visited Agent K, why do you think I was confident who got switched with who?

I am Town.
So what role do you claim? You seem scummy because you are vague.

Vote remains. Good night.

NoctiZ
February 17th, 2013, 08:59 AM
Also, there should have been at least 3 targets, since Mafia Killing probably hit another Mafia
But it's not what happened according to my results.

RLVG
February 17th, 2013, 09:00 AM
The Day has ended!

The Worm "Nimda V 17.2B" were eleminated by the Anti-Virus!
All that remains now is the virus which now seeks to eleminate the Anti-virus one by one!



Alive Players :

Cryptonic
TheDarkestLight
Bunny
Agent K
Espozito
NoctiZ
Fatalis
Orpz
MintBerry Crunch


Night Two!

Friendly reminder :
- Any killing role may leave a death note.
- You may add a Last Will by PMing the host.

The night ends at this time. (Click me!) (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=17%3A00+GMT%2B1+18.02.2013)

RLVG
February 18th, 2013, 09:18 AM
The Night has ended!



The computer had even more lag for whatever reason.
Neither the virus or the anti-virus have had any losses.



Events :
MintBerry Crunch and TheDarkestLight will be marked Replaced.
If the new replacement players have not talked, a modkill will happen instead.



Alive players :
- Cryptonic
- Bunny
- Agent K
- Espozito
- NoctiZ
- Fatalis
- Orpz
- TheDarkestLight Damus_Graves
- MintBerry Crunch creedkingsx

Dead Players :
- Slaol - Electromaniac


Day Three has started!
THE DAY ENDS AT THIS TIME! (Click me) (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=17%3A00+GMT%2B1+19.02.2013)

Espozito
February 18th, 2013, 09:26 AM
Morning everyone. Any clues that might be useful for town?

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 09:28 AM
Mafia has visited noone.

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 09:34 AM
Anyway, to continue where we left off: I say there is a high chance of Orpz being Mafia. If I may copy and paste my last will here (I saw no rule against that, so here it goes):

"The only targets who were visited by the Mafia night one are Espozito and AgentK.
They were kidnapped, and the other two Mafias made no action. This is the only conclusion after the 4 busdriven claims.

This means that, if Espozito really did track Fatalis as Detective, he actually tracked Orpz because they were switched.

Result: Orpz is Kidnapper!


Orpz said to his defense that he was town and targeted AgentK. This would explain him visiting Espozito, but could very easily be a fake claim.

In another post he stated that most likely following happened:

Orpz <-> Fatalis
Espozito <-> AgentK

How would he know that? He is either Bus Driver or Kidnapper. Judging by his posts, he is more likely a Kidnapper.
Additionally, it seems like he wanted to communicate with the other Virus by posting this.
As in, he knows exactly who was switched and because nobody died, he thinks that it helps the GF to narrow down the last Virus if he subtly claims to know who was swapped with whom. Too bad GF didn't attack anyone.

Backing up this claim is his post #194.

Also, there should have been at least 3 targets, since Mafia Killing probably hit another Mafia
Yep, there should have. But nothing of the sorts happened, because the only action that happened was the Kidnapper doing something, namely Orpz.

My conclusion stays the same. It may be wrong, but it's the best I can come up with."

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 09:36 AM
By the way, what did you do this night, Espozito? You claimed already, so you shouldn't have a problem with revealing your night action.

Depending on other posts I may or may not vote Orpz, since there is still a possibility he could be innocent. We need the others to post..

Orpz
February 18th, 2013, 09:36 AM
because Noctiz is a terrible person, I will reveal
Investigator

n1 Agent K (Actually Esp since bus) Det/LO/Framer....that's why I said I believed Esp's claim
n2 Crypt.....waiting for bussed feedback before I jump to conclusions

Anyways yes. That's why I believed Esp's claim so readily. And if Esp and Agent K were the two targets that were visitted by Maf, and Maf had no kills, and Esp is most likely Town, then Agent K was most likely the target of Mafia Killing n1

Esp, what is your lead?
Agent K

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 09:39 AM
Alright, if we can get the Bus Driver to reveal, then we are very close to a town win. For now I believe Orpz, since my deduction is not foolproof in any way, just very likely.


Anyways yes. That's why I believed Esp's claim so readily. And if Esp and Agent K were the two targets that were visitted by Maf, and Maf had no kills, and Esp is most likely Town, then Agent K was most likely the target of Mafia Killing n1

This only works if we think that Espozito was drugged and Agent K is lying.

Possibility, sure, but not good enough. We really need more town clues.

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 09:41 AM
Orpz, right now you seem very scummy.

Kidnapper gives two feedbacks to spy. One for each person he swapped = 2, easy math.

You say that you actually investigated Espozito because of the Busdriver, but then how do you explain the 4 busdriven claims?

Orpz

Espozito
February 18th, 2013, 09:43 AM
By the way, what did you do this night, Espozito? You claimed already, so you shouldn't have a problem with revealing your night action.

Depending on other posts I may or may not vote Orpz, since there is still a possibility he could be innocent. We need the others to post..

This night I tracked MintBerry Crunch. He took no action this night.

Espozito
February 18th, 2013, 09:44 AM
Orpz, right now you seem very scummy.

Kidnapper gives two feedbacks to spy. One for each person he swapped = 2, easy math.

You say that you actually investigated Espozito because of the Busdriver, but then how do you explain the 4 busdriven claims?

Orpz

Maybe I was visited not only by the kidnapper. We need to get the driven results so that OrpZ may prove his claim.

Orpz
February 18th, 2013, 09:44 AM
Because Bus Driver isn't part of the Mafia?

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 09:45 AM
Maybe I was visited not only by the kidnapper. We need to get the driven results so that OrpZ may prove his claim.

Sure, his claim would be true if Bus Driver swapped you and AgentK, since Orpz claims that he actually targeted AgentK.

BUT HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN FATALIS'S AND ORPZ'S BUSDRIVEN CLAIMS?

Orpz
February 18th, 2013, 09:46 AM
Bus Driver. and I claimed I actually targetted Esp because he was swapped with my original target

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 09:48 AM
Bus Driver. and I claimed I actually targetted Esp because he was swapped with my original target

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You targeted AgentK, but visited Espozito, because of the Bus Driver, you say.

But do you think that there is a possibility of 2 Bus Drivers? This is bullshit.

Orpz
February 18th, 2013, 09:50 AM
yes, that's one thing you finally get right

I'm saying 1 Bus Driver and 1 Kidnapper, not 2 BD

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 09:52 AM
yes, that's one thing you finally get right

I'm saying 1 Bus Driver and 1 Kidnapper, not 2 BD

Yes, and I'm saying that the Kidnapper's targets were Espozito and AgentK, because I only got 2 Mafia targets in my night feedback on night 1.

I don't know where the problem is, this is what I have been saying since the beginning. Are you actually reading? My vote remains.

Orpz
February 18th, 2013, 09:54 AM
I'm reading but I still don't understand how you came to the conclusion that I am Kidnapper because Kidnapper targeted Esp and Agent K.
If it's because I said I think I know what went down with the swappings, it's because of Esp's Det claim and my night results.

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 09:56 AM
I'm reading but I still don't understand how you came to the conclusion that I am Kidnapper because Kidnapper targeted Esp and Agent K.
If it's because I said I think I know what went down with the swappings, it's because of Esp's Det claim and my night results.

No, you said that even before Espozito claimed Detective.

Additionally, that's not why I'm claiming you are the Kidnapper. Have you read my lw?

I stated my thoughts about you being the Kidnapper, which to me seemed likely, but not foolproof.

Now you are running into contradictions, which makes you seem like a Kidnapper for sure.

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 09:57 AM
No, you said that even before Espozito claimed Detective.

Nevermind that, it makes sense. But why are you running into contradictions? My point still stands.

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 09:58 AM
Nevermind that, it makes sense. But why are you running into contradictions? My point still stands.

I meant to say that you actually stated your thoughts after Espozito claimed, brainlag.

Damus_Graves
February 18th, 2013, 10:01 AM
Not to worries everyone you are saved!

Orpz
February 18th, 2013, 10:02 AM
Point to me where my contradictions are

""The only targets who were visited by the Mafia night one are Espozito and AgentK.
They were kidnapped, and the other two Mafias made no action. This is the only conclusion after the 4 busdriven claims."
How can you conclude that Mafia Killing didn't visit Esp/Agent K? Also
Do Bus Drivers only show up as visitting one person (Target A swaps with Target B, does it show up as only visitting Target A?)

Your vote can stay, but I am perfectly innocent, and would like to focus on someone 99% scum whenever you believe me (Agent K)

Espozito
February 18th, 2013, 10:03 AM
Guys. I've just realised: no maf kills on both nights. hat about Mint or TDL being the mafia killer?

Damus_Graves
February 18th, 2013, 10:05 AM
Update me if you please?

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 10:05 AM
Point to me where my contradictions are

""The only targets who were visited by the Mafia night one are Espozito and AgentK.
They were kidnapped, and the other two Mafias made no action. This is the only conclusion after the 4 busdriven claims."
How can you conclude that Mafia Killing didn't visit Esp/Agent K? Also
Do Bus Drivers only show up as visitting one person (Target A swaps with Target B, does it show up as only visitting Target A?)

Your vote can stay, but I am perfectly innocent, and would like to focus on someone 99% scum whenever you believe me (Agent K)
Oh yeah, good point, the killing mafia actually could have visited one indeed. I forgot that I even asked RLVG for that information.

I will be waiting for others to post, since for now it looks like you were able to remove your doubts from me.

Damus_Graves
February 18th, 2013, 10:06 AM
Orpz uses logic = Town tell

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 10:07 AM
The point where I saw a contradiction was

n1 Agent K (Actually Esp since bus) Det/LO/Framer....that's why I said I believed Esp's claim

Next time say kidnap, because otherwise I will think you mean that the Bus Driver targeted Espozito and AgentK, not the Kidnapper.

Cryptonic
February 18th, 2013, 10:08 AM
still nobody has died? I can't begin to figure shit out unless I get some info from what's what and who's who.

Anyways, I was bussed last night.

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 10:10 AM
still nobody has died? I can't begin to figure shit out unless I get some info from what's what and who's who.

Anyways, I was bussed last night.

So far the claims are:
Me - Spy
Espozito - Detective
Orpz - Investigator

Damus_Graves
February 18th, 2013, 10:11 AM
Hm. No death.
Gotta think brb

Orpz
February 18th, 2013, 10:13 AM
ffs I hope that wasn't the reason I was FoS'd

and if Crypt was swapped, there no Kidnapper movements last night, so Bus Driver speak up, this is important.

Orpz
February 18th, 2013, 10:13 AM
Damus did you replace Mint/TDL?

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 10:13 AM
Hm. No death.
Gotta think brb

You up to date on the situation?

Right now my thoughts on what happened on night 1 was changed because I finally remembered that two Mafias could have visited one target and it would still show up as one (thanks Orpz).

Cryptonic
February 18th, 2013, 10:14 AM
Damus did you replace Mint/TDL?

he replaced TDL

Cryptonic
February 18th, 2013, 10:15 AM
You up to date on the situation?

Right now my thoughts on what happened on night 1 was changed because I finally remembered that two Mafias could have visited one target and it would still show up as one (thanks Orpz).

what info have you gotten so far

Damus_Graves
February 18th, 2013, 10:15 AM
I have a target.
Whoever replaced Mintberry {Cause It wasnt me} is scum.
Also Fatalis or Bunny is my hesitant second target.

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 10:15 AM
ffs I hope that wasn't the reason I was FoS'd

and if Crypt was swapped, there no Kidnapper movements last night, so Bus Driver speak up, this is important.
The FoS was due to various reasons like I said in my LW, but with your claim and me remembering the mechanics, your probability of being innocent rose pretty high.

No Mafia movements this night, like I said.

Bunny
February 18th, 2013, 10:16 AM
Helllo, so I was bussed last night.

Orpz
February 18th, 2013, 10:17 AM
I targeted Crypt, apparently he was swapped with Bunny

"Bus Driver / Kidnapper / Arsonist"

Bazinga

Cryptonic
February 18th, 2013, 10:17 AM
has anyone been rb'd ?
also lol @ me and bunny being swapped. surprised that didn't happen n1 lol

Cryptonic
February 18th, 2013, 10:18 AM
I targeted Crypt, apparently he was swapped with Bunny

"Bus Driver / Kidnapper / Arsonist"

Bazinga

well kidnapper can't target themselves, so that clears both of us.

Damus_Graves
February 18th, 2013, 10:19 AM
:|

Hey Orpz why don't you just reveal all the PR of Town?

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 10:19 AM
what info have you gotten so far

What happened:

Slaol's actions are unknown, but I don't think it matters much since he died already.

The mafia visited Espozito and AgentK, they were likely kidnapped and one of them was attacked, but no deaths.
Both claimed being busdriven, so the Kidnapper fits in.

Orpz and Fatalis were busdriven by the BD. (if he could reveal sometime soon that would be great)

Espozito targeted Fatalis but actually followed Orpz because of the BD and found out that Orpz visited him.
Orpz wanted to investigate AgentK but actually visited Espozito and got the Detective feedback.

The conclusion from this could be that the Mafia attacked AgentK, because Espozito didn't die and noone else is listed as target of the Mafia besides AgentK.

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 10:21 AM
well kidnapper can't target themselves, so that clears both of us.

Also, night feedback says that Mafia targeted noone.

Cryptonic
February 18th, 2013, 10:22 AM
What happened:
Slaol's actions are unknown, but I don't think it matters much since he died already.
The mafia visited Espozito and AgentK, they were likely kidnapped and one of them was attacked, but no deaths.
Both claimed being busdriven, so the Kidnapper fits in.
Orpz and Fatalis were busdriven by the BD. (if he could reveal sometime soon that would be great)
Espozito targeted Fatalis but actually followed Orpz because of the BD and found out that Orpz visited him.
Orpz wanted to investigate AgentK but actually visited Espozito and got the Detective feedback.

The conclusion from this could be that the Mafia attacked AgentK, because Espozito didn't die and noone else is listed as target of the Mafia besides AgentK.

No some claimed healed, so that means that one of them is scum.. And we're sure it's a Kidnapper and not a DD? we could just have a DD claiming that he was bussed while bus drugging someone.

Cryptonic
February 18th, 2013, 10:22 AM
Also, night feedback says that Mafia targeted noone.

oo that's really weird.

Orpz
February 18th, 2013, 10:23 AM
well kidnapper can't target themselves, so that clears both of us.

holy shit wow...derp


:|

Hey Orpz why don't you just reveal all the PR of Town?

Ehhh....what I did was a mistake but at least we can coordinate bussings a little better? :worried:

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 10:24 AM
No some claimed healed, so that means that one of them is scum.. And we're sure it's a Kidnapper and not a DD? we could just have a DD claiming that he was bussed while bus drugging someone.

This would assume that one of them lied, for example Espozito got targeted by DD and AgentK got attacked, and AgentK wants to tell his scummates that he is scum by saying he was busdriven, BUT that doesn't fit with Orpz's night result and Espozito's claim..

Damus_Graves
February 18th, 2013, 10:27 AM
This would assume that one of them lied, for example Espozito got targeted by DD and AgentK got attacked, and AgentK wants to tell his scummates that he is scum by saying he was busdriven, BUT that doesn't fit with Orpz's night result and Espozito's claim..

Orpz result on Bunny confirms BD.

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 10:29 AM
Orpz result on Bunny confirms BD.

Yes, um, I do not see how that statement relates to mine. I just told Crypt why I think it is not likely that DD drugged someone and then lied about himself being drugged.

That would need the cooperation of Orpz and Espozito and since there is no night chat for anyone..

Damus_Graves
February 18th, 2013, 10:30 AM
Yes, um, I do not see how that statement relates to mine. I just told Crypt why I think it is not likely that DD drugged someone and then lied about himself being drugged.

That would need the cooperation of Orpz and Espozito and since there is no night chat for anyone..

I have something to do brb.

Also think about what I have said today

NoctiZ
February 18th, 2013, 10:33 AM
No some claimed healed, so that means that one of them is scum.. And we're sure it's a Kidnapper and not a DD? we could just have a DD claiming that he was bussed while bus drugging someone.

Okay, thinking about it, if we assume that Orpz and Espozito have had the balls to fakeclaim something to protect their scumfriend, then it IS possible that Espozito drugged AgentK and was attacked by Orpz. Dunno bout that, maybe someone like Damus wants to tell us the probability of that happening.